=== vorian is now known as MadMule === MadMule is now known as vorian === vorian is now known as evil[v] === evil[v] is now known as evilv === EvilChild is now known as pricey === pricey is now known as Pricey [01:19] grr, it seems the archive is staying in an inconsistent state [01:19] translate-toolkit was broken earlier today now openjdk-6-jdk can't install [01:27] I'm looking to subscribe to changes to individual packages, such as rhythmbox, pidgin, human-icon-theme, etc. I'm wondering if that [01:27] 's possible? I don't want bug reports, but rather source updates [01:28] e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox... but subscribe to the changes [01:29] sorry: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox === evilv is now known as vorian [02:17] afternoon all [02:17] soren: please do. that always annoys me too. [02:17] Hey Hobbsee [02:21] oh, you did. thanks :) [02:21] * Hobbsee waves to nhandler :) [05:29] Hmm...if I want to get the fix for bug 340993 backported to Hardy, should I wait until the SRU process for bug 339815 is completed, or should I try to change it now? [05:29] Launchpad bug 340993 in alpine "alpine's ./configure wants Build-Depends and Depends: aspell" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/340993 [05:29] Launchpad bug 339815 in alpine "SRU: Alpine on Hardy fails to build with GSSAPI support" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339815 [05:29] (I realize that these are both my bugs and I should have thought this through harder) [05:30] (Well, sort of my bugs) [10:25] could someone with knowledge about gvfs please look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330383 [10:25] Ubuntu bug 330383 in gvfs "MTP is preferred over UMS/MSC" [Undecided,New] [10:25] it's reducing functionality of lots of devices, and completely breaking it for people who have different preferences than Rhythmbox [10:37] could someone who understands a bit more about package dependencies than me take a look at the last comment on bug 281277? [10:37] Launchpad bug 281277 in gnome-user-docs "[Intrepid] "Assistive Tool" string shows untranslated" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281277 [10:58] mdke: followed up to the bug [10:59] cjwatson: many thanks - I'll try adding the -proposed repository and installing the package from there to be double sure [11:03] cjwatson, I thought that if a relationship field has a version number attached then only real packages will be considered to see whether the relationship is satisfied. [11:03] cody-somerville: correct; however, in this case, the relationship field is unversioned [11:04] keybuk: Judging from the screenshot at http://code.google.com/p/pybootchartgui/ pybootchartgui should display CPU and IO usage in the process bars. Here it doesn’t seem to do that. Any ideas why? [11:04] cjwatson, ugh, sorry. I had misread the output. :) [11:09] cjwatson: seems to work, the upgrade tool and apt-get upgrade don't want to remove rarian-compat or install scrollkeeper so I guess it must be a problem with gdebi only [11:09] cjwatson: thanks for looking into it [11:10] scrollkeeper! now that's a package i haven't heard for quite a while :) [11:10] :) [11:10] hi there jsgotangco [11:11] hello mdke === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranzz === DktrKranzz is now known as DktrKranz === asac_ is now known as asac [13:06] hello [13:06] anyone can help me here wit init scripts? [13:07] I made a script to run in rc6.d [13:07] to mount a samba share with cifs [13:07] made the update-rc.d [13:07] and the links apear at the places I want [13:08] but the share does not apear [13:08] if I run the script after reb oot by hand it works [13:09] sorry, not the best place... [13:12] mount? on rc6? [13:12] no [13:12] rc5.d [13:12] sorry [13:12] I misspelled it [13:12] that is for rebbot preparation [13:12] lol [13:12] 5? on debbuntu? [13:13] I want the share to be mounted after the network is up [13:13] If I put it in fstab [13:13] it will wait for network [13:13] then fails and goes on with bot [13:14] 8boot [13:14] and the share gets mounted [13:14] but i wanted to be mounted without waiting 2 minutes and fails [13:14] is for my htpc mythbuntu [13:16] any thoughts? [13:17] I used the update-rc.d [13:17] and the sym links appear in place [13:17] you're using network-manager, or just static /etc/network/interfaces? [13:17] netmanager [13:17] network-manager [13:19] well [13:19] your approach is wrong, then. [13:19] I ssh now [13:19] firstly, debina/ubuntu don't use rc5 [13:19] and the link dont appears [13:19] ... [13:19] secondly, you can't guarantee your interface will be up in ANY runlevel with network-manager [13:19] man [13:19] ok [13:20] take a peek in /etc/network/if-up.d/ [13:20] rc4.d? [13:20] especially /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs [13:20] ok [13:20] debian/ubuntu use runlevel 2 for multi-user system. [13:21] thankyou [13:21] I read the runlevels in debian structure [13:21] and they talked about rc5 [13:21] but i told you, it won't help if you can't be certain that the network will be up [13:21] ok [13:22] i will ssh pico the /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs === Igorots is now known as Igorot [13:24] directhex: can I just drop there at the end of the script the mouont line? [13:25] I dont know sh scripting... [13:28] well [13:28] going for reboot now [13:28] see if it works [13:30] well [13:30] didnt worked [13:41] well I am without ideas for this [13:41] what is significance of device /dev/sr0? [13:42] cdrom? maybe? [13:45] yes [13:46] rlameiro: what happens if the device node is not present? I am getting permission denied error in totem while trying to play DVD. Could it be related? [13:46] ... [13:46] do you have the css codec? [13:47] yes, I have libdvdcss installed. xine plays the dvd fine. But anything that uses libdvdread is causing problem. totem (gstreamer), mplayer, vlc etc [13:47] permission denied is likely to be a device-level error not anything to do with codecs [13:47] check whether you can actually read from the device [13:48] cjwatson: xine plays the dvd fine. [13:48] gxine I mean [13:48] find out what device those applications are using; check dmesg and such to find out whether that actually corresponds to the device you're using; further questions on this to #ubuntu unless you discover a bug in which case file it ... [13:49] I had discussion with Keybuk yesterday but I could not reach any conclusion. [13:50] and I remembered a bug I had filed regarding wrong permission with IDE DVD/CDROM which was fixed by him. So I was wondering if this is similar bug. [13:50] slytherin, I have a problem to mount a cifs share at startup [13:51] I think that ubuntu could have some kind of start script/conf file to add shares to be mounted after the network manager is up [13:52] do you now anything about that? [13:52] or cjwatson,? === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [13:54] rlameiro: nope [13:56] rlameiro: no, and please ask support questions in #ubuntu; I realise that it's noisier there, but consider what it would be like here if everyone asked for user help here rather than in #ubuntu :-) [13:58] this is not help [13:58] it is more a feature request [13:59] like to make a simple script [13:59] where to put it etc [13:59] I could make a python script after that to help people to make this [13:59] like that they will not have the same problems that i have [14:01] feature requests => bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [14:01] we can't effectively track them on IRC [14:01] and the people who would be best to deal with any given feature request are not around on IRC 24/7, so putting it somewhere where they can see it asynchronously is actually better for you [14:02] ok [14:02] or answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu if you're asking a question ("is this possible?") rather than filing a bug ("please make this possible") [14:02] ok [14:02] thanks [14:02] no prob [14:02] I will try someanoe answer me in #ubuntu === ziroday` is now known as ziroday [14:51] argh.. nvidia glx180 is conflicting with itself since the last update in jaunty (that is, the normal package conflicts with -dev) [14:51] RainCT_: is normal package and -dev at same version? [14:52] slytherin: yes [14:53] to clarify, it's not that there is a Conflicts, but that it tries to override a file and dpkg doesn't like that [14:53] oh, that is problem then. [14:54] * RainCT_ should read more carefully.. actually, it's dpkg-divert not wanting to divert :S [14:56] it says something like: name change means overwriting "/usr/lib/libGL.so" with "/usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.xlibmesa", not allowed [14:57] apw: ogasawara ping [14:57] wifi device is not working after suspend to memory on jaunty latest kernel [14:57] known or file new bug? [14:58] weird [14:59] I've uninstalled the -dev package, installed it again and this time it worked [15:03] alright, nvidia and compiz are working fine again [15:07] bug 342804 [15:07] Launchpad bug 342804 in linux "wifi (intel 4965) fails to work after suspend to ram" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342804 [15:07] RainCT: really? [15:07] I have to reload my desktop everytime I reboot! [15:07] BUGabundo: reload? [15:15] RainCT: $ compiz --reload or fusion icon reload [15:17] BUGabundo: Ah. Here the problem I have is that if I switch to metacity I can't get Compiz back without restarting X [15:17] hum [15:17] don't know [15:17] mine wsa not working last week [15:17] but now I can just boot to compiz no problmo [15:17] let me change to metacity and back to see if it works! [15:17] do you have a prefered way for me to do it? [15:18] or can I just use Fusion Icon [15:18] ? [15:19] BUGabundo: fusion icon is fine [15:19] (is fine == you can use it. it fails the same as runing from Alt+F2) [15:20] ok Compiz>metacity worked [15:20] gonna try vs [15:20] * BUGabundo prepares a terminal timeout with compiz --replace [15:21] almost worked [15:21] WM bars gone! needed to reload too [15:22] but I'm on compiz again! [15:22] NVidia 8400 [15:22] i got a very strange failure to upload message on powerpc for OOo [15:22] it says this: [15:22] RainCT: nvidia-glx-180: Installed: 180.37-0ubuntu1 [15:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/131108/ [15:22] hello, can't manage to install flash 10 for 64 bit ubuntu [15:24] * RainCT has got a GeForce 9600M GT [15:24] DreadKnight: go to #ubuntu-mozillateam and ask fta or asac there [15:24] who should i ping about an issue like that? [15:24] BUGabundo, thanks, will do === parker75 is now known as stackOverflow === stackOverflow is now known as Error75 [18:06] hi [18:06] I want to know the complete list of features set in the Jakalope [18:06] is there any link, google haven't helped me much [18:06] ? [18:08] :'( [18:13] ho ho ! [18:14] toc toc toc ! Is there anybody here ? [18:18] pARAd0X: what do you mean by "feature set"? [18:21] you might look at the 9.04 blueprints on Launchpad but that doesn't specifically tell you what all will be included [18:22] there are also the release notes for the alpha releases [18:22] and several other sources [18:22] the "complete feature set" would be more than 10000 pages long I suppose :-) [18:23] I need only one source, about what will be the Jakalope, I mean, news about DeviceKit, iBUS, DBus, XServer 1.6 or 1.7 ... [18:23] like what we found in the fedora site [18:26] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview [18:26] obviously it needs to be fleshed out further, but that is the place [18:26] (until such time as the marketing people start putting together presentations and such for www.ubuntu.com anyway) [18:35] that page misses out on the intel driver performance regressions [18:35] yes [18:36] it's a wiki [18:36] it suffers from the fact that only the release team have made serious additions to it so far this cycle, rather than people who are specifically focused on documentation [18:37] heh right [18:37] maybe i should add that [18:44] stupid question; can someone link/explain what were the "outstanding issues" with encrypted home dirs? [18:46] jdong: I did see a report about the key-file being in the encrypted volume - not sure if that is relevant :p [18:48] ROFL [18:51] I suspect bug #277578 and #317895 are blockers [18:51] Launchpad bug 277578 in ecryptfs-utils "ecryptfs does not work properly over nfs, cifs, or samba" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277578 [18:51] Launchpad bug 317895 in ecryptfs-utils "netboot newuser and ecryptfs fails to login" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317895 [18:52] jdong: installer doesn't force encrypted swap when you're using it [18:53] (and it's tricky to do so because the partitioner's already finished by the time we get round to asking that question, so it requires some more thought) [18:53] ah, I see [18:53] that make sense [18:54] that's the specific reason that led the security team to ask us to disable it; there may be other problems of course [18:54] yeah, that's entirely legitimate === kyselejsyrecek1 is now known as kyselejsyrecek [19:43] cjwatson: Thanks for fixing up qt4-x11 on powerpc. === azeem_ is now known as azeem [20:37] Hm... you folks may like this patch more than upstream will, since Jaunty's notification stuff is less obtrusive: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567880 [20:37] Gnome bug 567880 in general "Changing keyboard layout should trigger visual feedback" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed] [20:38] personally, I think it's awesome... although I am a little biased :P [20:45] mdz, cjwatson, Keybuk: mind moderating my mail to u-d-a? (btw.: still a mystery who can moderate posts there, last time I failed pitti wrote me that I should've informed him earlier, but he's not mentioned in "list-run by ..." details, maybe other moerators aren't eitther?) [21:01] Hmm...I'm testing a build of the pyrex package in my jaunty chroot, and it's FTBFSing because it's installing the module into /usr/local. Anyone seen this? [21:07] Is there any special Python configuration in the buildd chroots that I might be missing? [21:20] Hmm...actually, I think this might have been broken by one of the recent python-central uploads [21:23] * sistpoty goes to bed... gn8 [21:23] ebroder: Sounds like the source hasn't been modified for the Python 2.6 transition [21:24] It is now required to pass --install-layout=deb to python setup.py [21:24] maxb: The source shouldn't need to be modified - it keys on the output of pyversions [21:24] Oh, really? Huh. Ok [21:24] ebroder: distutils needs --install-layout=deb passed now. [21:25] I eventually tracked that down, and I have a patch - bug #342936 and bug #342937 [21:25] Launchpad bug 342936 in pyrex "pyrex FTBFS under Jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342936 [21:25] Launchpad bug 342937 in pyrex "Pyrex needs to be rebuilt for Python 2.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342937 [21:25] Are there going to be any mechanisms to catch other packages like this before release? [21:26] ebroder: I've almost finished an archive rebuild, and am currently triaging the failures. [21:26] I have around 70 that appear to result from this same Python issue. [21:26] wgrant: Awesome. Do you need help? I'd be glad to look at a few of those [21:27] ebroder: I haven't got a list at the moment, but should tomorrow. === johanbr_ is now known as johanbr [22:51] savvas: bug 316579: it's not your decision to make. copyright subsists by default; copyright holders need to disclaim interest for it to be public domain. [22:51] Launchpad bug 316579 in soyuz "Soyuz needs to switch to obtaining Packages-arch-specific from non-obsolete source" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/316579 [22:57] ScottK: glad it works now. Were there any give-backs to do further up the stack as a result of the breakage? [23:07] cjwatson: well, under US law there's nothing copyrightable in that file because there's no originality [23:07] but obviously there are other laws besides US law that may be relevant here, since only one of the named parties is even a US resident :) [23:08] slangasek: I didn't want to venture an opinion on whether there was originality or not [23:09] UK law is ... not as clear on the subject as it might be, I think. The CDPA has some language about "creative works" but there are some parts of it that seemed very unclear last time I looked [23:20] cjwatson: I kicked off some retries (re qt4-x11). I haven't had a chance to see how they worked out. [23:22] hey guys, simple question. Im looking here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/2.6.28-9.31. How am i to apply this diff patch? [23:23] if i gunzip the orig and get the diff file and do patch < difffile it can't find the files [23:23] hi there. I just did a debdiff for a simple change for yelp, and without me touching anything the list of uploaders has been changed: is that normal? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23868503/342972.debdiff [23:23] stephenr82: you need to either provide the starting path explicitly and/or you need to use -p [23:23] mdke: Yes, unfortunately. [23:23] mdke: GNOME packages are magic. [23:23] In a bad way. [23:23] wgrant: do I need to do anything about it, or can I submit the debdiff like that? [23:24] mdke: You could always remove it, but it's reasonable to submit like that IMO. [23:24] ok :) [23:34] hi dtchen, the -p doesnt seem to work. I have done -p 17 and its still giving me: can't find file to patch at input line 3 .... |--- linux-2.6.28.orig/Makefile [23:34] stephenr82: let's step into #ubuntu, please