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porthosenhandler: Thank you for your mentoring efforts. ;-)00:01
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crist1aloha00:09
crist1if a package is named 1:0.3.0-14, i should rename after altering 1:0.3.0-15ubuntu1?00:10
crist1or 1.0.3.0-14ubuntu1?00:10
goshawkcrist1: second form00:12
goshawkbut wait me have a look00:12
crist1goshawk: thank you00:13
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nazgandWhat are the requirements to become a MOTU member, and how long does it usually take after applying to become a member?00:57
evilvnazgand: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU will have the info you are looking for00:58
nazgandI've already been there, but I applied and I haven't been accepted yet, so I was wondering if I didn't fill a requirement that I didn't read about or if I was just too impatient.00:59
evilvnazgand: it takes time to go through the process01:00
nazgandOk, thank you.01:00
evilvafter having several packages sponsored, your sponsors will tell you when you are ready01:00
nazgandOk.01:01
__ironhi01:14
nhandlerHey __iron01:14
__ironi'm just writing a java ftp-client framework01:15
__ironand i would release it for ubuntu is anybody interessed ?01:17
__ironhi nhandler01:18
nhandler__iron: I'm sure some people would be interested in an application like that01:20
__ironk fine01:20
__ironthx nhandler01:22
nhandlerYou're welcome __iron. If you need any help packaging it, feel free to ask.01:23
__ironk thx+01:24
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rippsHey, I'm back and I'm still needing help getting my source package to install correctly.02:46
nhandlerripps: What is the issue?02:55
rippsnhanler: I have a source package that runs a script that clones 20 plugins from git, runs autogen.sh in each, and then installs them. The probelm is at the final stage of dh_install, it can't find the files so I seperate them according their debian/package_name.install.02:57
rippsHold on, I'm doing a fresh pbuilder build with a logfile.02:57
rippsMan, it segfaulted again. This is getting pretty annoying03:02
nhandlerripps: I'm going to head off to bed. I'm sure someone else will be able to help you.03:07
rippsnhandler: okay, thanks anyway03:08
adelie421anyone else having connectivity issues with launchpad?04:08
JanCadelie421: seems t owork for me?04:16
JanCit's sometimes slow though04:16
wgrantProduction doesn't work, but edge does sometimes.04:18
wgrantHmm, prod does too, but very, very slowly.04:19
adelie421is motu only about packaging, or does it include all direct contributions to ubuntu. Reading the packaging guide right now and trying to get a feel for the scope of motu05:04
rippsCan someone help me figure out what's wrong with my source package build? I'm using a scritpt that pulls plugins from git, runs autogen.sh in each one, and then builds and installs them. I have it setup for split packages using debian/package_name.install, but something goes wrong at dh_install. Here's the pbuilder logfile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/130899/05:12
adelie421Anyone free to help a noob? Do I need to register a branch before I use bzr send -o foo.patch?05:46
adelie421I am feeling a bit overwhelmed here trying to properly submit a patch. I have been following http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html05:47
rippsadelie421: Try asking for help in #bzr as well.05:49
adelie421k05:49
Ryan52ripps: did you get it figured out?06:25
Ryan52(whatever it might be..)06:25
rippsRyan52: no06:25
Ryan52I might be able to help...06:26
Ryan52ripps: so what was your question?06:29
rippsRyan52: Oh, you just logged on, so you haven't seen my post, hold on.06:30
rippsI'm using a scritpt that pulls plugins from git, runs autogen.sh in each one, and then builds and installs them. I have it setup for split packages using debian/package_name.install, but something goes wrong at dh_install. Here's the pbuilder logfile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/130899/06:30
Ryan52okay, what do your debian/package_name.install files look like?06:32
rippsI have 20 of them, but I'll post one of them to give you an idea.06:32
rippsRyan52: Here's debian/gmpc-alarm.install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/130916/06:34
rippsIt's based on what dpkg -L says about it as a standalone package.06:35
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Ryan52hmm.06:38
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Ryan52debian/tmp/usr/lib/gmpc/plugins/alarmplugin.la exists?06:38
rippsWell, according to libtool, it installed the file there. I can't check because this was built in a pbuilder environment06:39
Ryan52why are you building in pbuilder?06:40
rippsRyan52: to keep the build environment clean, and so that I know that it will work when I upload to the ppa06:40
Ryan52what's debian/compat?06:43
rippsRyan52: 506:44
Ryan52change it to 706:44
Ryan52and see if it works.06:44
rippsOkay, let me warn you I tend to get segfaults often while building, so it might take awhile06:45
Ryan52ripps: http://pastie.org/41597106:46
Ryan52it lookes like that syntax only works with debhelper 7 and up.06:46
rippsRyan52: Oh, I wish someone had told me about that sooner06:47
rippsEvery package guide I read said to leave it at 506:47
* ripps crosses his fingers06:48
Ryan52:)06:48
Ryan52usr/share/doc/gmpc-alarm/TODO06:49
Ryan52usr/share/doc/gmpc-alarm/AUTHORS06:49
Ryan52usr/share/doc/gmpc-alarm/README06:49
Ryan52hmm.06:49
Ryan52is the upstream Makefile actually installing those there?06:49
Ryan52I doubt it.06:49
fabrice_spripps, when you have problems building a package, you can login to the chroot hidden behind pbuilder and make a manual build06:49
fabrice_spthis way, you can check where the files are installed06:50
Ryan52you probably should put the path (in the source, not from debian/tmp/) of those in debian/gmpc-alarm.docs instead.06:50
rippsRyan52: I'll do that, if it gets past the point it always fails.06:51
rippsfabrice_sp: I know I can use pbuilder --login, but how do I move my package source into there?06:51
Ryan52well, it'll still fail at the same point if those aren't being installed by the upstream makefile.06:51
Ryan52ripps: cp? wget?06:51
ripps... how about a bindmount?06:52
Ryan52man pbuilder06:52
Ryan52/--bindmounts06:52
fabrice_sp--bindmounts option06:52
fabrice_sptoo late :-)06:52
Ryan52hehe06:52
rippsI use bindmounts with a hook script to have pbuilder scan it's result directory and import the completed packages into it's database.06:53
Ryan52pbuilder has a database?06:54
rippsit's apt database, just like ubuntu has.06:54
rippsSo it'll install packages I built there that aren't included in any repositories (sometimes necesary when I'm testing new packages that have upstream dependencies)06:55
Ryan52nice.06:55
Ryan52ripps: could you please share those scripts? :)06:55
rippsRyan52: http://paste.ubuntu.com/130928/06:58
rippsI'll rename it to .D70results when I'm not needing upstream dependencies, because it slows down the package fetching time with apt-get update.06:59
rippsI commented out lines from an old version of the script that didn't work.07:00
Ryan52oh, so you're just building an apt repository in your result dir. that seems useful.07:00
rippsBasically07:00
rippsvery useful07:00
rippsmake sure to have you result directory in you bindmounts, otherwise it's useless07:01
Ryan52right.07:01
* Ryan52 usually goes through the trouble to build the package, use my custom repository building scripts to build an apt repo, sign it, rsync it to my vps, and manually edit the chroot's sources.list :P07:02
rippsI tried doing that before I read this: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/pbuilder-doc/pbuilder-doc.html#usingspecialaptsources07:04
rippsIf you guys are wondering what this is for, it's because I maintain the gmpc-trunk team ppa, and try to keep it updated somewhat close to git upstream. The problem is that it has over 20 plugins that I've had to package and upload individually, and they need to be reuploaded everytime there's been a change to the core program. Not to mention that I backport it to intrepid and hardy.07:09
rippsPlease don't segfault... please don't segfault...07:11
rippsdammit, signal 11 segfault07:13
rippstrying again...07:13
fabrice_spripps, what is your memory size? I had this problem when I was compiling huge C++ programs and only 1Gb.07:26
rippsfabrice_sp: only 512mb.07:26
rippsBut I think it's past the point I usually fail at, the gcc compiling.07:26
fabrice_spripps, that could explain the segfaults...07:26
fabrice_spoh07:27
rippsI closed a bunch of stuff I had open. Probably freed up a little memory07:27
Ryan52lack of memory causing a seg fault? that's a bug in something. :P07:28
* Ryan52 thinks somebody forgot to check some return codes :)07:28
rippsfabrice_sp, Ryan52: It went further than it did before, but I still got an error07:31
rippscp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/gmpc-alarm/TODO': No such file or director07:31
Ryan52yep, I knew that would happen.07:31
rippsBut I think that's fixable, it's my *.install file's fault.07:31
Ryan52like I said, do the docs thing.07:32
rippsGetting on it now.07:32
fabrice_spthat's why building inside a chroot allows you to check that, and only repeat the install part :-)07:32
Ryan52that's why ripps shoulda just made the change when I first brought it up :D07:33
rippsI was impatient, it's gonna take me awhile to change 20+ files07:33
Ryan52oh, fun.07:33
ripps(although I could have been doing it while it was compiling)07:33
rippsRyan52: what about *.png files?07:36
Ryan52what do you mean what about them?07:39
rippsDo they go in *.doc or *.install?07:39
Ryan52depends.07:39
Ryan52if upstream Makefile installs them debian/tmp07:39
Ryan52then specify the path from as if you are in debian/tmp and put it in package.install07:39
Ryan52if you want them in /usr/share/doc/package/ put them in package.docs07:40
ripps /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'magnatune.png' '/tmp/buildd/gmpc-plugins-0.18.0/debian/tmp//usr/share/gmpc/plugins/magnatune//magnatune.png'07:40
rippsso *.install07:40
Ryan52yep.07:40
rippsWell, let's try this one more time (hopefully.07:41
rippsI usually do my builds using cowbuilder, but I think the original pbuilder works well with this build, probably because pbuilder doesn't operate within the userspace.07:43
eMerzhif a motu want to review my package, it's waiting at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman :)08:12
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DktrKranzRainCT, heh :)12:03
DktrKranzfeel free to reupload with suggestion I just mailed ;)12:03
RainCTlol12:06
directhexmornin'12:07
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DktrKranzhi directhex12:10
* directhex finds himself unable to test-build things, as his mirror's Packages.gz for universe is busted12:12
directhexDktrKranz, feel like the adventure of a lifetime? try building http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/boo/boo_0.8.1.2865-3.dsc in an up-to-date jaunty pbuilder!12:14
directhexDktrKranz, oh, and you know the monodevelop FFe was a good idea when you receive lengthy thank you messages from projects, cc'd to miguel de icaza12:15
* wgrant is very concerned about the >100 FTBFSes like http://builder.ubuntuwire.com:9998/job/43267 we are looking at.12:17
wgrantI have 56 at the moment, with only half of universe built.12:17
c_korncan a MOTU have a look at sivp and upload it to the jaunty queue if everyting is correct? bug 33436212:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 334362 in sivp "FeatureFreezeException: Please update sivp 0.5.0 from REVU" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33436212:33
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lfaraoneIs there any utility in attaching a debdiff to a sync request?13:25
RainCTuhm.. can I install a i386 package on amd64?13:26
lfaraoneRainCT: It'll *run*, if it has all of the compat libs installed.13:27
lfaraoneRainCT: why?13:27
lfaraoneRainCT: as a rule it's a bad idea :)13:27
RainCTbut dpkg won't let me install it :)13:27
RainCT*cough* because I want to try an applications for which there's only a .deb for i386 and I'm too lazy to compile it myself *cough*13:28
geserRainCT: use more force (--force-architecture)13:28
geserand it's not statically build you need all the needed libs as i386 too13:29
directhexusually by dumping them in /usr/lib3213:30
RainCTAh right, thanks. But it conflicts with another package, so I guess I'll wait until someone packages it :P13:31
DktrKranzdirecthex, :)13:50
DktrKranzdirecthex, still need a testbuild?13:50
directhexDktrKranz, please. and if it works, you could ack https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/339808 !13:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 339808 in boo "Please sync boo 0.8.1.2865-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New]13:51
DktrKranzdirecthex, I'll fire up my company's server, just some minutes :)13:52
DktrKranzdirecthex, it's i38613:52
c_kornwhat does this line mean in a diff?13:52
c_korn! import_all(tesseract)13:52
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:52
directhexi386? yay, retro!13:53
DktrKranzintel xeon dual core13:53
DktrKranzbut still i38613:53
pmjdebruijnhmmm is it already possible to use PPA for Jaunty?13:53
directhexpmjdebruijn, of course!13:53
pmjdebruijndo I need to do anything for that? or will it recognize it in the changelog?13:54
* iulian is free to testbuild things.13:54
slytherinpmjdebruijn: changelog13:54
pmjdebruijnsweet13:54
pmjdebruijnI recently got a mail telling my that I was reaching my PPA's 1GB limit13:56
pmjdebruijnbut, I can see why... archived packages?13:56
directhexiulian, if you have an absolutely up-to-date jaunty environment to hand, can you pastebin the output of apt-cache rdepends libmono-corlib1.0-cil for me?13:57
iuliandirecthex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/131065/plain/13:59
ryanakcaOk, I got a pile of packaging bugs for slingshot fixed in Debian. Is it too late to sync? No changes on the Ubuntu side.14:02
directhexiulian, neato - log4net is definitely not on that list anymore (1.2.10+dfsg-3 Published in jaunty-release 16 hours ago), so boo is the single remaining 1.0-using source package in the archive (other than mono itself)14:04
DktrKranzdirecthex, I haven't it in my list14:05
DktrKranzapt-get update just two hours ago14:05
iuliandirecthex: Ouh, lemme run an upgrade again.14:06
directhexso if boo gets synced, then the mono transition is over. fini. kaput.14:06
DktrKranzc_korn, I'll probably have a look at sivp later, unless mok0 is already on it14:07
iulianIt takes much more time to unpack and replace than download packages.14:07
DktrKranzdirecthex, what about the remaining packages? Are they going to disappear?14:07
directhexDktrKranz, the remaining packages are all produced by the mono source package. they're occasionally used for building, and may be of use for compatibility for people running arbitrary .net apps, but no app/lib dep will pull them in14:08
DktrKranzdirecthex, so they can be moved to universe?14:09
DktrKranz(if not already)14:09
directhexDktrKranz, some, not all, can be (check reverse-build-depends)14:09
directhexcorlib, cairo, and system will resist14:10
DktrKranzwell, if we can move some out of seeds and save some disk space, I think some people could be happy :)14:10
directhexyou'll need to manually check reverse-build-depends on all of them. but a cursory examination suggests that most can be moved to universe14:15
directhexalso check rdepends14:15
directhexin theory only the ones depended on by mono-devel are needed anymore, i think14:16
directhexbut double-check to be sure14:16
DktrKranzare the all belonging to mono source package?14:16
directhexyes14:17
* DktrKranz looks14:17
DktrKranzdirecthex, some of them belong to xsp14:18
DktrKranzapt-cache rdepends libmono-corlib1.0-cil | xargs apt-cache showsrc | grep Package | sort -du14:19
pmjdebruijn"Rejected: Could not find person ''"14:24
pmjdebruijnI got that in an email from PPA14:24
DktrKranzdirecthex, btw build successful, I'm going to ACK that bug14:24
pmjdebruijnwhat could be wrong...14:24
pmjdebruijnthese are packages for Jaunty... not Intrepid14:25
DktrKranzpmjdebruijn, is Maintainer field correctly formatted?14:25
pmjdebruijnI think so?14:26
pmjdebruijnIt's not different from when I built  for Intrepid?14:26
pmjdebruijnhave new check/policies been introduced?14:26
DktrKranzI don't think so14:26
DktrKranzalso check if changelog timestamp entry is ok14:27
pmjdebruijnit's `date -R`14:27
c_kornDktrKranz: ok. I did not see mok0 online here for some time. don't know if he is on it14:29
DktrKranzpmjdebruijn, check the name and email after --14:30
DktrKranzc_korn, I'll have a look then14:30
c_kornok14:30
DktrKranzbtw, it's not necessary using REVU for merges or package updates14:30
c_kornso the debdiff would have been enough?14:31
DktrKranzc_korn, yes, it's more evident to see changes introduced, REVU is mainly for new packages, where every bit must be looked14:33
pmjdebruijnDktrKranz: yep, that's okay14:33
DktrKranzc_korn, I'm looking at your debdiff in the bug report, you removed .svn directory, isn't it?14:33
c_kornyes14:33
DktrKranzpmjdebruijn, did you adjusted your dput.cf file?14:34
DktrKranz*adjust14:34
pmjdebruijnthe login?14:34
DktrKranzyes14:35
DktrKranzerrr...14:35
* pmjdebruijn doesn't remember changed that last time... but I'm semi-senile... so that doesn't mean anything14:35
DktrKranzincoming14:35
DktrKranzincoming                = ~%(ppa)s/ppa/ubuntu14:35
DktrKranzthat's the default14:35
pmjdebruijnDktrKranz: yep, that's okayincoming                = ~%(ppa)s/ubuntu14:35
pmjdebruijnsorry14:36
DktrKranzyou should replace %(ppa)s with your LP id14:36
pmjdebruijn'incoming = ~pmjdebruijn/ubuntu' should be okay then?14:36
DktrKranzc_korn, it's legal to remove it, I'd be more inclined report Sylvestre just to be sure it will removed Debian side too14:37
DktrKranzpmjdebruijn, incoming = ~pmjdebruijn/ppa/ubuntu14:37
pmjdebruijnDktrKranz: my stock dput.cf doesn't include /ppa/14:38
DktrKranzpmjdebruijn, there have been changes in PPA incoming directory, now /ppa/ is part of the path. Not sure if they removed compatibility with old ~LP_id/ubuntu, though, but using new format is safe.14:39
pmjdebruijnok14:39
pmjdebruijnnow I have a file conflict14:41
pmjdebruijna downstream tarball has changed14:41
pmjdebruijnaren't packages for intrepid and jaunty seperated?14:41
pmjdebruijnI need the new tarball, but I don't want to break my Intrepid package14:42
cjwatsonI understand that you can do 'dput ppa:pmjdebruijn' rather than having to edit the default file14:43
DktrKranzif you have the same .orig.tar.gz name but with different md5 sums, it will get rejected14:43
cjwatsonor 'dput ppa:pmjdebruijn/ppa' if you have it in the form pmjdebruijn quoted14:43
pmjdebruijncjwatson: right14:43
cjwatsonhttp://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/14:43
cjwatsonoops14:43
cjwatsonhttp://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/simplifying-dputcf-for-multiple-ppas14:43
pmjdebruijnI already edited the file, and it's fine now14:43
pmjdebruijnmy problem now is a tarball conflict with an older package14:44
pmjdebruijnwhich I do _not_ want to break14:44
directhexDktrKranz, xsp is in univsre, and it's okay for xsp to have 1.0 deps (xsp2 from the same course package is the 2.0 version)14:44
cjwatsonif the tarball has changed but has the same version number, then you must artificially rename it14:44
c_kornDktrKranz: I am in contact with Sylvestre. will notify him.14:44
DktrKranzdirecthex, cool then14:44
pmjdebruijncjwatson: like?14:44
cjwatsonyou cannot have two objects with the same file name but different contents in the same archive14:44
cjwatsonpmjdebruijn: up to you14:44
pmjdebruijncjwatson: "the same archive" is intrepid and jaunty stuff mixed then?14:45
cjwatsonyes.14:45
pmjdebruijnugh14:45
DktrKranzpmjdebruijn, foo_0.1+repack.orig.tar.gz could go14:45
cjwatsonthere's a single pool14:45
pmjdebruijnhmmm14:45
cjwatsonwhich will then mean that your package is versioned 0.1+repack-0ubuntu1 or whatever14:45
pmjdebruijnoh well, too bad for folks still on Intrepid then14:45
cjwatsonwhy *not* rename it?14:45
cjwatsonit's the right thing to do14:45
pmjdebruijnis it?14:46
directhexthe root question here is, why do you WANT different orig with the same version?14:46
* cjwatson -> out14:47
DktrKranznhandler, bug 266919, is it managed using Rosetta? I can't find it in package list.14:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 266919 in knoda "knoda italian translation" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26691914:48
slytherinwhen specifying CFLAGS, is order of the flags important?14:49
pmjdebruijndirecthex: I'm going to check the differences14:50
pmjdebruijndirecthex: the base directory seems to be the only difference, then I'll stick with the old tarball14:52
pmjdebruijnwon't the common pool mean I can't have identical debian versions in different dists as well?14:53
pmjdebruijncd ..14:54
DktrKranzpmjdebruijn, you can have identical upstream versions, but you have to use a different version for each release14:55
pmjdebruijnseems rather nasty14:56
DktrKranze.g. if you have foo 0.1-1ubuntu1 in jaunty, you can upload foo 0.1-1ubuntu1~intrepid for intrepid, foo 0.1-1ubuntu1~hardy for hardy and so on14:56
DktrKranzpackage contents do not change, only version is mangled14:57
directhexsiretart, ping15:03
DktrKranzc_korn, are bug 340520 and bug 329399 addressed with your upload?15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 340520 in sivp "package sivp 0.4.3-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34052015:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 329399 in sivp "Problem uninstalling sivp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32939915:07
c_kornDktrKranz: should be fixed in the package. it was because the package did not check if the symlink was there and tried to remove it. (it is not fixed in the debian version yet)15:09
c_kornI tried updating sivp-4.x to sivp-5.x and removing15:09
c_korneverything works15:09
DktrKranzso, it's fixed by new upstream?15:09
DktrKranzc_korn, --^15:12
c_kornDktrKranz: yes, I would say so. it is because the install directory detection changed from scilab-4 to scilab-5 so sivp-4.x cannot find scilab.15:13
DktrKranzok, I'll mangle your changelog entry to reflect it15:13
slytherinwhat is the way to figure out differences between two versions of same library?15:33
eMerzhif a motu want to review my package, it's waiting at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman15:37
lidaobingsladen, dpkg-gensymbols works for you?15:37
lidaobingslytherin,  dpkg-gensymbols works for you?15:38
slytherinlidaobing: does it work as standalone tool?15:39
lidaobingslytherin, no, but you can use objdump15:39
siretartdirecthex: pong15:45
DktrKranzc_korn, done15:45
c_kornDktrKranz: thanks, I currently see it building. looks fine15:47
directhexsiretart, any guesses why i'd see cd /tm15:52
directhexgah15:52
slytherinlidaobing: I am using that but not able to figure out the differences.15:53
directhexsiretart, any guesses why i'd see "/tmp/buildd/ffmpeg-0.svn20090303/libavcodec/dsputil.c:2846: error: 'CONFIG_H263_ENCODER' undeclared (first use in this function)" when trying to build unstripped ffmpeg locally?15:54
siretartdirecthex: well, see http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-multimedia/ffmpeg-debian.git;a=blob;f=debian/strip.sh;hb=HEAD15:59
c_kornDktrKranz: because scilab is now free the sivp package can go into universe I think. should I wait until released in multiverse and request a move or can it be released into universe directly?15:59
siretartdirecthex: that sed command is removing the h263 encoder, which is required for ffmpeg-debian in main15:59
ScottKc_korn: Is sivp in New or waiting to be uploaded?16:00
c_kornehm, it is currently building: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/sivp/0.5.0-1ubuntu116:01
directhexsiretart, damn, that's it, i was switching debian/control to build unstripped but hadn't realised orig differed16:01
pmjdebruijneh... now I have a bigger issue16:05
pmjdebruijnI have lensfun_0.2.3.orig.tar.gz in my intrepid ppa, which differs from Ubuntu's master archive lensfun_0.2.3.orig.tar.gz16:05
pmjdebruijnI can't use either16:05
pmjdebruijnwithout renaming16:06
pmjdebruijnso I can't use the proper tarball, because I used a bad one in the past16:06
siretartdirecthex: get the branch from git.debian.org and 'git checkout ubuntu.jaunty.unstripped'16:07
* pmjdebruijn is getting punished for being sloppy in the past :(16:10
maxbpmjdebruijn: I *think* if you delete things from your PPA and wait long enough for them to be purged completely you can replace the tarball.16:21
directhexsiretart, there aren't any conflicts that would prevent me from installing it alongside lavc51 in intrepid are there?16:21
siretartdirecthex: there are. the new libavutil has a Breaks: libavcodec51. On purpose :(16:22
siretartdirecthex: see also my PPA. I have backported most packages in intrepid for the new ffmpeg16:23
pmjdebruijnmaxb: yes, but this library is a dependancy for most of my PPA packages for Intrepid, so if I delete the packages, I can basically empty out my entire PPA16:24
directhexsiretart, probably best to wait until jaunty, i fear. i can make do for now16:28
siretartdirecthex: or you could help me backporting the rest of the packages, and have then in the motumedia ppa16:29
siretarts/have/maintain/16:29
directhexsiretart, sorry, i don't have enough free cycles to take that on16:30
* pmjdebruijn is going to purge his entire PPA...16:31
c_kornhm, does this build hang? https://launchpad.net/+builds/crested/+index16:41
c_kornothers only needed 10minutes16:41
slytherinany autotools experts here?16:44
slytherinsiretart: remember the discussion about libxine having it's own copy of libdvdread/libdvdnav? What kind of analysis should I do before proposing that we use the external libdvdread/libdvdnav?16:48
* hyperair wonders if anyone can review gtk2-engines-aurora17:24
ryanakcaWhen trying to make a building chroot, I get W: BAD signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <ftpmaster@debian.org>"   ... any iedas?19:34
sistpotyhi fols19:44
sistpoty+k19:44
iulianHey sistpoty.19:47
sistpotyhi iulian:19:47
sistpotyiulian, DktrKranz, ScottK, DktrKranz, nhandler: proposal for mail to ubuntu-devel-announce... problem is that I'm not too sure about rebuild statistics yet (which is [4]): http://paste.ubuntu.com/131242/19:48
pochuDktrKranz: you gotta read it twice :)19:49
sistpotydamn19:49
sistpotyslangasek: oh, if the mail proposal finds approval, anything you'd like to add for ubuntu-relelase? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/131242/)19:51
sistpotys/relelase/release/19:51
DktrKranzpochu, I'm like Dr. Jekill and Mr. Hyde, you have to ping me twice in a statement to have my full attention, or you receive just a half19:52
sistpotyhaha19:52
RainCTlol19:52
* RainCT is happy because he got his boot time from 80 to 50 seconds :)19:52
pochuhuh, 8019:53
pochuRainCT: is that your Acer eMachines? ;-)19:53
RainCTyeah.. 20 of those are the X trying to start several times..19:53
DktrKranzRainCT, have you hamsters instead of CPUs?19:53
RainCTpochu: No. The eMachines one is really fast :)19:53
iulianHamsters... yikes!19:54
RainCThah19:54
DktrKranzsistpoty, what about qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbs or http://builder.ubuntuwire.com:9998/dist/jaunty/arch/i386/failed ?19:54
iulianI'd go with the former.19:54
DktrKranz*ftbfs19:54
RainCTbtw, does concurrency=shell work now? last time I tried the boot would get slighly slower because the laptop did everything twice (once at every CPU) XD19:55
sistpotyDktrKranz: cool, didn't know about that link... even seems up to date19:55
sistpotyDktrKranz: thanks19:55
RainCT(s/CPU/core, of course)19:55
DktrKranzsistpoty, np, thanks for preparing it :)19:56
RainCTjdong_: thanks for the readahead tutorial, btw :)  that gave me, together with switching to ext4, 25 seconds19:56
DktrKranzRainCT, I'll be satisfied when my system will boot in -3 seconds19:57
RainCTDktrKranz: Heh. How long does it take now?19:57
DktrKranzabout 70 seconds19:57
dtchenDktrKranz: that's easy - just remove all the hw.19:57
RainCTDktrKranz: err.. and you complain about my CPU? :P19:57
DktrKranzdtchen, I was thinking about a system plugged with my brain which interpretes my wish to turn on PC and he starts system in advance19:58
iulianHmm, I believe my crappy lappy boots in less than 50 seconds.19:58
* iulian should test it some day.19:58
DktrKranzRainCT, in two years my PC won't be underage anymore :)19:58
jdongRainCT: neat :)19:58
jdongRainCT: another bootup hack to try is to "delay" noncritical bootup services until way after GDM19:59
RainCTjdong: how is that done?19:59
dtchenor just drop your rotary disks for SSD19:59
jdongRainCT: in my system GDM is S13, everything that GDM doesn't depend on is moved to S50 and beyond, and S45 is basically "sleep 120s"19:59
sistpotyslangasek: around? I'd like to send a mail to u-d-a regarding a new ubuntu-release delegate, which however also mentions common tasks at this point, want to add s.th. for ubuntu in general? (proposal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/131252/)19:59
jdong(it's a hack but gets me to the login screen ~5s faster)19:59
DktrKranzlol, my package FTBFS and I wasn't aware of that!20:00
DktrKranzhttp://builder.ubuntuwire.com:9998/job/4363220:00
iulianHeh20:00
RainCTalthough I guess I'd already be happy if I got ride of the damn 20 seconds worth in tries to start X.. XD20:00
RoAkSoAxbug 27764820:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277648 in vm-builder "libdevmapper does not load its kernel modules upon install" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27764820:00
sistpotyDktrKranz: that happens... fauhdlc FTBFS'd on anything but i386 and amd64 even though I wrote almost every single line for it20:00
RainCTjdong: uhm.. wheren't they discussing doing something like that in #ubuntu-devel a few days ago20:01
DktrKranzsistpoty, I wasn't aware of that because I haven't rebuilt my python packages against 2.620:01
* DktrKranz should have a run at them tomorrow20:01
sistpotyDktrKranz: heh... I'm still curious what edos is about :P20:02
DktrKranzI love edos-debcheck20:02
DktrKranzit's simply extraordinary :)20:02
sistpoty(the pasted commands won't work for me... I'm on unstable right now, and don't intent to reboot to jaunty as of speeking)20:03
sistpotyDktrKranz: what exactly does edos provide?20:04
sistpoty(or edos-debcheck?)20:04
DktrKranzsistpoty, it checks for package installability comparing package versions, conflicts or blocks fields20:05
sistpotyDktrKranz: then it'd be similar as in "apt-cache -i unmet" for a given arch?20:06
DktrKranzmostly, but it tells you why:20:06
DktrKranzenvyng-qt (= 2.0.1): FAILED20:06
DktrKranzThe following constraints cannot be satisfied:20:06
DktrKranz  envyng-qt (= 2.0.1) depends on python (<< 2.6) {NOT AVAILABLE}20:06
DktrKranze.g.   this one states envyng-qt requires to be rebuilt against 2.5, apt-cache -i unmet tells you it's just uninstallable20:07
sistpotyDktrKranz: well, apt-cache -i unmet also tells you why... but only for the arch *you are running apt-get on*20:07
DktrKranzah, long time I don't use it20:08
sistpotyDktrKranz: so, it seems like a arch-independent apt-get -i unmet is a *huge* win ;)20:08
DktrKranzwell, edos-debcheck needs Package from mirrors, so you can run it for sparc, ppc or armel20:08
jdongRainCT: the Dell Mini 9 Ubuntu spin does something similar too20:08
DktrKranzjust fetch Packages.gz files and give it them to eat20:09
sistpotysure, the info should be there20:09
sistpotystill it's a leap jump from checking unstallable package for20:09
sistpoty+ *one* arch, instead of any arch20:10
sistpotyI guess only britney could do this back then... (or whatever is the name now that debian-release use for their testing-migration script)20:10
DktrKranzI guess it's britney20:11
sistpotyheh20:11
DktrKranzoh, holger is doing amazing job on piuparts these days!20:11
DktrKranzI'd like to use it more in Ubuntu20:11
ryanakcaI got a pile of packaging bugs for slingshot fixed in Debian (bugs were filed in both Ubuntu and Debian). Is it too late to sync?20:12
dtchenno20:12
sistpotyDktrKranz: oh? cool... from my personal setup, it usually bailed out (since I guess I must have been doing s.th. wrong... either wrong .tar.gz or s.th. else)20:12
DktrKranzsistpoty, I plan to have it working out-of-the-box, it needs some love :)20:13
sistpotyryanakca: new upstream release in unstable?20:13
sistpotyryanakca: that brings in new features apart from only bug fixes?20:13
* DktrKranz runs now, c u tomorrow20:13
sistpotycya DktrKranz:20:14
sistpotyryanakca: if it's only bug fixes, there's no problem... otherwise we'd need a feature freeze exception request20:15
ryanakcasistpoty: No, same old version, upstream is MIA. Just packaging bug fixes (aka, inserted an xpm icon, updated path to GPL, depend on ttf-freefont instead of installing a duplicate, etc)20:21
sistpotyryanakca: then that's fine... can you file a sync request?20:22
ryanakcasistpoty: Sure.20:22
sistpotyryanakca: thanks!20:22
c_kornI don't understand why the build of sivp for amd64 fails: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sivp/0.5.0-1ubuntu1/+build/904358/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.sivp_0.5.0-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz20:23
c_kornit succeeds in a PPA20:23
c_korn(the PPA is here https://launchpad.net/~getdeb.packages/+archive/ppa)20:24
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ScottKc_korn: Put it in a PPA that doesn't have a lot of non-Ubuntu stuff in it and see if it builds.20:26
ScottKThere may be something it builds against in the PPA that isn't in Ubuntu.20:26
c_kornScottK: lots of non-ubuntu stuff?20:26
c_kornthere is only vlc in it20:27
ScottKOh.  OK.20:27
* ScottK made an assumption that the getdeb PPA would have lots of stuff in it.20:27
ScottKNevermind then.20:27
ScottKLet's give it a retry.20:27
c_kornScottK: hrhr. reuploading20:29
ScottKc_korn: No need to reupload.  I can trigger a retry20:29
ryanakcasistpoty: Hmmm... ``The versions in Debian and Ubuntu are the same already (0.8.1p-1). Aborting.'' ... however, http://packages.debian.org/sid/slingshot shows 0.8.1p-2 ... give it a few hours?20:29
c_kornScottK: I mean I reupload it to the PPA. just for testing20:29
ScottKc_korn: Ah.  OK.  Makes sense.  I just retried it too, so we'll see.20:30
c_kornScottK: actually there was scilab before in the PPA (when scilab was not yet in ubuntu). but the same version has been published in jaunty20:31
ScottKOK.20:31
sistpotyryanakca: ubuntu doesn't have -2, so at this point of time, you'd need to file a sync request for -220:32
sistpotyryanakca: only before debian import freeze, packages are synced automatically (if these don't have ubuntu changes)20:32
ryanakcasistpoty: *nod*, ... so, shouldn't ``requestsync -k E95EDDC9 slingshot jaunty'' do it?20:33
sistpotyryanakca: no idea, haven't use requestsync myself yet (I'm always filing these by hand *g*(20:33
ryanakca*nod*, thanks :)20:34
jacobwould patching mail-notification to work well with notify-osd be something that would require a FFe? I ask because the proposal on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD suggests UI changes if notify-osd is in use20:37
c_kornScottK: it still builds fine in the PPA https://launchpad.net/~getdeb.packages/+archive/ppa/+build/90463020:57
wgrantapachelogger: kde-i18n-* all seem to FTBFS like http://builder.ubuntuwire.com:9998/job/43356.21:09
apacheloggerwgrant: --without-arts needs to be added to the configure arguments21:11
wgrantapachelogger: I presume there's some way to do it to all of them?21:12
apacheloggernot really21:12
apacheloggerI'd recommend to write a simple script apt-get source'ing through apt-cache search kde-i18n- and then edit all of them21:12
wgrantI don't really care about them - I'm just triaging all of the rebuild failures - but I'll do them if nobody else wants to.21:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: pling21:13
apacheloggerwgrant: I'll mail kubuntu-devel21:16
wgrantapachelogger: Thanks.21:16
wgrantSimilar failures make up about 10% of the failures so far.21:17
wgrantMost of those being langpacks.21:17
adelie421ok, finally figured out how to do a simple patch, but when I run 'debuild -S' I get " clearsign failed: secret key not available". I have a registered key. Any help? I am new21:18
adelie421I am following this guide given to me by the maintainer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix21:19
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: plong21:19
maxbadelie421: Are you actually trying to prepare an upload, or just test the build?21:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: do we have a minion to address the kde-i18n ftbfs?21:20
JontheEchidnahrm...21:20
adelie421I am trying to prepare an upload21:20
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: not that I know of21:20
adelie421It was mostly spelling errers / typos in documentation21:21
JontheEchidnabut I would rather not fancy getting 13K emails by doing it myself21:21
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: lol21:21
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you must triage your mails I say21:21
wgrantWhy 13K?21:21
maxbadelie421: Run 'gpg --list-secret-keys' and check whether any of the printed user IDs corresponds to the user ID of the top entry in the debian/changelog21:21
wgrantSince they're not in main...21:21
JontheEchidnaoh, I was confusing them with kde-l10n21:22
adelie421gpg --list-secret-keys21:22
adelie421ha ha, doh21:22
JontheEchidnawhich are in main21:22
JontheEchidnaThat being said kde-l10n needs an upload too, bug 330069.21:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330069 in kde-l10n-it "[jaunty] packages kde-l10n-xx conflicts with i18n-xx packages by installing the same files." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33006921:23
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: maybe batl10n-edit is of need21:24
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I already blackhole everything from rosetta@launchpad.net :P21:24
adelie421is the name supposed to be under the date?21:24
adelie421err... email does not match. must be it21:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: actually it could share most stuff with batl10n anyway ... so batl10n just needs to be copied and modified and the appropriate stuff moved to bat.rb21:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: then it would also be mostly useable for kde-i18n21:25
* JontheEchidna nods21:25
adelie421that was the problem. Thanks! btw, how do I change it so 'dch -i' uses the right email address?21:27
maxbexport DEBEMAIL=....21:27
c_kornScottK: I don't know why it hangs again https://launchpad.net/+builds/yellow21:27
adelie421maxb: will that fix it permanently?21:28
apacheloggeranyway21:28
apacheloggerwgrant, JontheEchidna: mail sent21:28
c_kornScottK: exactly the same package has been built successfully here: https://launchpad.net/~getdeb.packages/+archive/ppa/+build/90463021:28
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: also, I am not sure kde-l10n should be changed to resolve that bug ... rather kde 3 should be using a different path for it's localized content, one really might want kde-l10n-de and kde-i18n-de for example21:29
JontheEchidnatrue21:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: also-ng, you should blackhole everything from rosetta@launchpad.net that contains "successfully imported" or something ;-)21:30
JontheEchidnawhat do I with failure though? lol21:31
JontheEchidnabring a sacrificial goat next time?21:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: poke launchpad guys and tell them their product is broken ;-)21:31
wgrantapachelogger: The success notifications are disabled.21:32
wgrantBut they probably won't actually go away until the next release, unless somebody can convince them a cherrypick is justified.21:33
* apachelogger thinks that new contributors might get easily annoyed21:34
adelie421ok, after running debdiff, at the top it says "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found". Is that ok, or did I miss something?21:35
ScottKwgrant: That's an odd definition of disabled then.21:41
ScottKc_korn: No idea then.21:41
wgrantScottK: Disabled in trunk.21:41
ScottKis/will be then.21:41
wgrantMuch that we mark as fixed many bugs that won't be fixed in a release for several months.21:41
wgrants/that/like/21:41
ScottKTrunk is a VCS, not a developemental release.21:42
* ScottK thinks it's rather different.21:42
wgrantA development release here will be a VCS within a few releases, I suspect.21:42
ScottKAlso with Ubuntu one could choose to run the developmental release.  With a service like LP, no such choice exists.21:43
wgrantMm, edge, but that doesn't help for this particular change.21:43
ScottKRight.21:43
jmarsdenI've made a versioning mistake in my PPA.  It thinks 1.7rc1 is newer than the final 1.7 release, and so won't accept the upload of the "final" version... is there a way to fix this?  I'm seeing: Rejected:21:48
jmarsdenbibletime_1.7-1ubuntu1~jmarsden1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 1.7-1ubuntu1~jmarsden1 <= 1.7rc1-1ubuntu1~jmarsden121:48
wgrantjmarsden: You wanted ~rc1. There's no clean way to fix this, but using 1.7.0 instead will work.21:49
jmarsdenThanks, yes, I realise (now) the value of the ~ :)   I'll go with 1.7.0.21:50
c_kornScottK: who should I ask about then?22:04
c_kornit is very odd22:04
c_kornis this move request allright? bug 34295422:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 342954 in sivp "move sivp from multiverse to universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34295422:13
c_kornI have an odd situation: sivp compiles fine in a PPA for amd64. but the build on the official build machines just freezes for amd64. who should I contact about that?22:15
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ScottKc_korn: Someone who has amd64 (not me) and someone who understands java stuff (not me).23:25
c_kornScottK: I contacted someone from #launchpad . he wants to investigate. thanks23:31
c_kornneed to sleep. bye23:31
meoblast001hi23:34
meoblast001you guys here make debs regularly correct?23:34
joaopintomeoblast001, yes23:37
meoblast001ok23:37
meoblast001i'm trying to become fluent at deb building and i've ran into a wall23:38
meoblast001http://rafb.net/p/vB4wRZ75.html23:38
meoblast001dpkg-source is failing23:38
joaopintomeanburrito920_, the error message tells it all :)23:39
meoblast001you mean meoblast001?23:39
joaopintoops :P23:39
joaopintoI do23:39
joaopintoyour clean rules is not cleaning what it should23:39
meoblast001joaopinto: i'm sort of new at deb building (only built 2 packages before) so that error message isn't registering with my brain23:39
meoblast001sounds to me like something exists now that didn't exist before?23:39
joaopintomeoblast001, yes, something that resulted from building, which means, it should be removed, at your clean rule23:40
joaopintousually with a -make distclean23:40
meoblast001joaopinto: would that delete the entire compile?23:40
meoblast001it took some time to compile audacity on this pentium m23:40
meoblast001i don't want to recompile it all23:40
meoblast001should i just remove the files it's speaking of in the error? that sounds like it would break audacity23:41
joaopintoit would not break, they will be rebuilt23:42
joaopintoyou just want to build a .deb for your own use ?23:42
meoblast001joaopinto: well... basically... for learning purposes23:43
meoblast001ugh.... the Do Not Eat on the package that came with this beef jerky is tempting23:43
meoblast001oh wait.... ontopic23:43
meoblast001debs23:43
meoblast001joaopinto: ok thanks... let me try that real quick23:44
meoblast001joaopinto: something makes me want to think it's remaking everything23:49
meoblast001joaopinto: well... looks like i'll be waiting a while23:49
joaopintomeoblast001, if you didn't use -nc, it did23:49
meoblast001joaopinto: thanks for the heads up :P23:49
meoblast001joaopinto: so i have to use -nc for it to not rebuild everything?23:50
meoblast001or -nc makes it rebuild everything23:50
meoblast001joaopinto: ?23:54
_Groo_meanburrito920_: me? nope, but i know him :)23:55
_Groo_meoblast001: sorry i sent to meanburrito920_23:56
meoblast001_Groo_: ?23:56
_Groo_meoblast001: never mind :D23:57
meoblast001am i supposed to -nc my dpkg-buildpackage for it not to rebuild everything?23:57

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