[00:20] <docta_v> how can i tell if a gpg secret key is encrypted or not?
[00:24] <JanC> see if you can use it without passphrase?
[00:25] <docta_v> yeah i actually just thought of that
[00:25] <docta_v> thanks
[00:25] <docta_v> heh
[03:11] <photon> how can I search a whole directory and each file in it for a text string and find out which files have that string in them?
[03:17] <ScottK> photon: grep [your string] *
[03:19] <photon> ScottK, thanks
[03:20] <ScottK> photon: That'll give you a pretty verbose output.  You can man grep for more knobs to turn to refine it.
[03:21] <giovani2> we all love the grep knobs
[03:22] <ScottK> I like piping through a series of greps to get what I want.
[03:28] <DavidCraft> how do I set up an LVM encrypted system with a separate unencrypted boot partition?
[03:50] <giovani2> DavidCraft: your /boot partition should not be LVM
[03:50] <giovani2> you can do this all during install time
[03:50] <giovani2> just create a normal boot partition, then create the LVM PVs with the left over space
[03:51] <giovani2> and put your logical volumes in there
[04:12] <twb> It doesn't hurt to put /boot in LVM, though currently grub can't have /boot be both md RAID1'd and in LVM at the same time.
[04:14] <giovani2> grub doesn't support multiple VGs yet does it?
[04:16] <giovani2> guess I could just try it in a virtual machine
[04:57] <twb> giovani2: sorry, I don't know.
[04:57] <twb> giovani2: IME most of the problem is install-grub, not in grub itself.
[04:57] <twb> i.e. auto-detecting what modules to include in the MBR
[08:44] <psteyn> Silly question, how can I tell if a distro IS 64bit currently or not?  something like ldd on a file that tells me its 64bit compiled?
[08:49] <cemc> psteyn: try file <binary_file>
[08:51] <psteyn> ./usr/bin/gcc-4.2: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64,
[08:51] <psteyn> cool :]
[08:51] <psteyn> thanks
[08:51] <psteyn> the 64bit default ubuntu server install will detect more than 2gb of ram right?
[08:55] <Jeeves_> yes
[08:57] <psteyn> thanks..think something is wrong on this 64bit install then...initially installed as 64bit dapper drake...bios picks up 4gb ram, but only see ~2gb in linux. so upgraded to latest, and still only see ~2gb
[08:58] <psteyn> gonna reinstall with a fresh 64bit latest install (sure I could fix the problem otherwise, but id rather just try this)
[08:58] <psteyn> but for interest sake, what else can I look at?  to debug this?
[08:59] <psteyn> current installed kernel: 2.6.24-23-server #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 01:36:05 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:00] <Deeps> the default ubuntu server 32bit will detect more than 4gb of ram too, PAE extentions are enabled by default (in hardy, at least, i dont think that's changed in intrepid)
[09:00] <psteyn> so if after I reinstall and I still only see 2gb ram the memory might be faulty even though the bios does report (soz, its 8gb..not 4)
[09:01] <Deeps> as for where it's going wrong, i'd suggest running memcheck when booting from the cd
[09:01] <Deeps> and seeing what that reports
[09:01] <Deeps> memtest even
[09:01] <psteyn> Ok, good idea, thanks
[09:01] <Deeps> as yeah, it sounds like you may have some faulty ram
[09:05] <psteyn> yeah...
[09:12]  * domas thinks, why this tool doesn't have ubuntu package yet: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/parallel/ ;-)
[09:18] <BulleT--> Can somebody please tell me what is this mail error about ebox? http://pastebin.com/m27b65e7c
[09:44] <Deeps> BulleT--: line21 is the key
[09:44] <Deeps> EBox.pm seems to be missing from the paths listed, which is where perl normally looks for inclusions
[09:44] <BulleT--> I installed ebox.. but it's not running.
[09:44] <Deeps> domas: do it! :D
[09:45] <BulleT--> I mean... it's runing on the server... but in my browser it doesen't.
[09:46] <Deeps> i have no idea what what you just said means
[09:46] <Deeps> but that error is being generated by a cronjob on the machine running ebox
[09:46] <Deeps> #
[09:46] <Deeps> /etc/cron.hourly/99purgeEBoxLogs
[09:46] <Deeps> that cronjob
[09:47] <Deeps> lines 24+25 related to another different cronjob that's also failing
[09:47] <BulleT--> I resolved that issue.
[09:48] <BulleT--> I have another one...
[09:49]  * Deeps engages mind reading powers
[09:49] <BulleT--> :))
[09:50] <BulleT--> I have ubuntu server 8.10 and somehow i managed to install ebox. It's running right now, on the server. But if I type in my browsers address bar https://myIP/ebox it's doesen't work.
[09:50] <Deeps> check apache logs
[09:50] <Deeps> /var/log/apache/access.log and /var/log/apache/error.log
[09:50] <Deeps> and possibly others to
[09:50] <Deeps> o
[09:50] <Deeps> might be apache2 instead of apache in that path
[09:51] <BulleT--> Oh my god.
[09:51] <BulleT--> http:////pastebin.com/f6d3adc03
[09:51] <BulleT--> Sorry
[09:51] <BulleT--> http://pastebin.com/f6d3adc03
[09:52] <Deeps> most relevant line there appears to be 16
[09:52] <Deeps> with the 404
[09:52] <BulleT--> http://pastebin.com/f689ae9
[09:52] <Deeps> again, only relevant line there appers to be the last one too
[09:52] <Deeps> logs are time + date stamped
[09:53] <Deeps> stuff from friday isn't particularl relevant if you're encountering the error right now ;)
[09:53] <Deeps> good way to see exactly what's occuring, is to open 2 terminals, one with tail -f access.log, one with tail -f error.log, hit enter a few times on both to clear some space, and then try to access ebox
[09:54] <Deeps> you'll see the hits in both immediately, and see what error is occuring, if any
[09:54] <Deeps> and can then try to debug
[09:54] <Deeps> by looks of things, you've got an alias for /eBox pointing to data in /var/www/hub/vhcp/ebox
[09:55] <Deeps> but there's nothing there
[09:55] <BulleT--> Nothing it's happening.
[09:55] <domas> hehehee, my 'iostat' manual is already #5 on google for 'iostat'
[09:55] <domas> got there in few hours
[09:56] <Deeps> fuse4bsd.creo.hu?
[09:57] <Deeps> i lie, there's not an alias for /eBox since /eBox 404'd
[09:57] <Deeps> and the error was generated 20mins later
[09:58] <Deeps> gl, bbl
[10:33] <psteyn> I have my /var on a separate drive, and want to do a reinstall...do I still _need_ to do mysqldump or can I just point the new install's mysql to use /var/ ? itl be the same mysql version etc...
[10:33] <psteyn> would do a mysqldump but dont have a spare drive / spare space..
[10:35] <mrwes> My server has 2 processes running and like 59 sleeping -- why does it say almost all of my 2gb of RAM is used?
[10:35] <domas> psteyn: you can use existing directory, if  you don't wipe it out accidently
[10:35] <mrwes> Mem:   1945428k total,  1915644k used,    29784k free,    72272k buffers
[10:35] <mrwes> Swap:   975232k total,      188k used,   975044k free,  1764352k cached
[10:35] <domas> mrwes: see "cached"
[10:36] <psteyn> domas: ok, yeah I won't mount the mysql drive (/var) until I've got the new install up and running, then ill just mount it and change mysql to use that?
[10:36] <psteyn> that shouldnt wipe out right?
[10:38] <mrwes> domas, so the caches memory is reserved for those sleeping processes, so it can write the data from the cache instead of the disk?
[10:56] <lex> hy..
[10:56] <lex> hi
[10:56] <lex> i need heelp please
[11:47] <nivanson> hi, i need to set up a bridge on my server so i can have my virtual machines reachable outside the server. however, the bridging docs (http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#bridging) is using static ip and my isp has dynamic ip
[11:47] <nivanson> can anybody help me out?
[11:48] <simplexio> nivanson: same thing,execpt you put iface br0 inet dhcp
[11:48] <nivanson> ok i will try thanks!
[11:48] <nivanson> should my network/interfaces have the eth0 lines?
[11:49] <simplexio> nivanson: wait  a sec, i cehck my interfaces
[11:50] <simplexio> nivanson: i have , auto eth0 , auto eth1, auto br0, and then i have "iface br0 inet static"
[11:52] <nivanson> is your bridge a bridge between eth0 and eth1?
[11:53] <simplexio> nivanson: yeah.
[11:53] <nivanson> simplexio: i think i got it working now, thanks alot :)
[12:02] <dazman> Hi. Anyone running Ubuntu-Server in ESXi?
[13:26] <lex> hola
[13:31] <lex> hi
[13:48] <nivanson> i am getting really really bad performance on my virtual server (kvm)... how can i see if the virtual server is hardware accelerated?
[13:48] <nivanson> using kvm as in the docs
[13:48] <Nafallo>  egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[13:52] <nivanson> yes i have support but can the server be set to not be hardware accelerated somehow? i think i might have missed some configuration somewhere
[13:53] <nivanson> becouse the performance is really lousy... especially on read write
[13:55] <simplexio> nivanson: how much top shows  %wait ?
[13:58] <nivanson> 0.2
[13:59] <simplexio> well then best quess its that kvm is just slow
[13:59] <nivanson> it seems to only get really slow when there is read/write involved
[13:59] <nivanson> cpu load is low
[13:59] <giovani2> cpu load will be high when the i/o is being maxed out, unless you're at the max of your i/o bandwidth -- not likely
[14:00] <simplexio> im mean if there is big rw going on and %wa is huge, there is too much io traffic to hd, but if not then it is just slow
[14:00] <simplexio> like vmware was, then i changed to vbox and install time on VS2005 went from 10H to 30min
[14:00] <nivanson> you see, i am doing an rsync to the virtual machine from a third machine, while doing this it gets extremely slow
[14:01] <simplexio> rsync is slow
[14:02] <nivanson> i guess i will have to see what happens when the real load (webserver) starts then
[14:02] <nivanson> thanks!
[14:02] <simplexio> i got only 20M over 1G ethernet when i synced data dires over nfs mount, just plain cp hit 40M per second
[14:03] <nivanson> the pc sending the data to the virtual machine with rsync is on wireless, so i could not possibly max out the i/o but still even locally on the server (as i have keyboard and a screen connected) commands are slow now
[14:03] <nivanson> i stop the rsync and it gets fast
[14:03] <nivanson> still i cannot see the load on top... it shows almost idle
[14:04]  * Nafallo usually gets ~13MB/s on his guests
[14:04] <nivanson> how can i benchmark i/o like you did nafallo?
[14:04] <Nafallo> nivanson: wget? ;-)
[14:04] <simplexio> i didnt know hat kvm is that slow..
[14:05] <nivanson> hehe true true
[14:05] <Nafallo> simplexio: it isn't :-)
[14:05] <simplexio> nivanson: bonnie++ if ists linux
[14:05] <nivanson> simplexio: i think i might have an error in my config somewhere cuz this is rediculous
[14:05] <nivanson> simplexio: ok thx
[14:06] <simplexio> actually im intrested difference between native vs kvm speed
[14:06] <simplexio> nivanson: so if you test it, feel free to paste result to me
[14:10] <lex> fail2ban
[14:19] <nivanson> results: http://pastebin.com/m6e89ca81
[14:19] <nivanson> (host machine and virtual machine)
[14:19] <nivanson> i did a small test just for measure
[14:20] <nivanson> results tell me i have good i/o even on virtual machine, maybe problem was in my network
[14:21] <simplexio> yeah.. some problem in bridge configuration or something
[14:22] <nivanson> simplexio: it seems like that, i think i go by some internet route even though my pcs are in the same network
[14:22] <nivanson> making my ssh (that SHOULD be quick) very slow
[14:23] <simplexio> nivanson: you could ry play with mtu and txqueuelen
[14:23] <gabrieltomate> Please, my VINO dont work. Anybody know how i have to do?
[14:25] <simplexio> nivanson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=744378
[14:27] <nivanson> simplexio: thanks!
[14:27] <simplexio> nivanson: it seems that 10M nic is default for guests. or attleast has been
[14:27] <nivanson> yeah, but that is fine becouse im on a slower connection anyway
[14:28] <nivanson> 3mbit/s upstreams :S
[14:29] <simplexio> :)
[14:30] <nivanson> and since my complete internet connection gets really 100% upstream loaded when i do the rsync between my laptop and my virtual server it means that it just doesnt take the shortest route here
[14:30] <simplexio> nivanson: well traceroute should tell you that
[14:31] <nivanson> i am reading up on traceroute atm, i just dont know how to use it
[14:31] <simplexio> traceroute targetip, and if it shopw more than two lines data goes wrong way
[14:32] <nivanson> oh that was easy xD
[14:32] <nivanson> 17 steps :)
[14:32] <nivanson> hahahaha this suxx
[14:32] <simplexio> :) yeah.. you configured route wrong
[14:33] <nivanson> yeah
[14:33] <nivanson> traceroute to the ip holding the servers is only 1 ste
[14:33] <nivanson> p
[14:33] <simplexio> route add guestIp br0 could help if i recall syntax right
[14:33] <nivanson> so i will have to take a look at my bridge hehe
[14:34] <nivanson> on my server holding the virtual machines?
[14:34] <simplexio> yes
[14:36] <simplexio> actually you should see only one step on host to guest and back
[14:36] <nivanson> yeah
[14:39] <nivanson> i lost my password to the host lol
[14:39] <simplexio> :D
[14:39] <nivanson> i ran a passwd earlier cancelling it by pressing ctrl+d and it said password successfully updated
[14:39] <nivanson> haha
[14:40] <nivanson> i have terminal access to it since i can ssh with my key but i cannot change my password... this is for shit :S
[14:43] <simplexio> thats reason why i first configure root passwd.. and make another username with sudo permission
[14:47] <nivanson> xD
[14:47] <nivanson> anyway
[14:47] <nivanson> i reset my root password now using rescue cp so np
[14:51] <nivanson> ok that route command you gave me fixed my problem with traceroute, however my rsync command is still slow, can i flush my dns?
[14:53] <nivanson> what the hell, i will restart my pc
[14:53] <nivanson> thanks alot for your help simplexio :)
[14:53] <nivanson> hug
[14:58] <nivanson> i rebooted my laptop, from it i can traceroute my virtual servers ip and get 1 route. its great! but somehow when doing my rsync it still routes through the other way...
[14:58] <nivanson> rsync -avh -e ssh my.backup my_user@85.****.***.**:/folder
[14:58] <nivanson> could it be that it somehow cached the route somewhere :/
[15:02] <simplexio> i think that 10M nic is slowing things now..
[15:03] <nivanson> simplexio: true!
[15:03] <nivanson> it should be that
[15:04] <nivanson> yeah it is, my network is quick again!
[15:04] <nivanson> this is lovely :)
[15:05] <simplexio> probably alot faster now :)
[15:05] <nivanson> 1000x
[15:05] <nivanson> xD
[17:07] <ylon> any developers around?
[20:02] <trym_work> I have a raid setup with a blocksize of 64k. When I format it to ocfs2, should I use the same block size?
[20:04] <trym_work> I have a big hw raid logical device. I created a lvm lv and made it an iscsi target. Do I need to partition this block device, or could I format it directly?
[20:12] <_ruben> no need to treat an iscsi volume other than a physical disk really
[20:13] <_ruben> s/other/different/
[20:42] <trym_work> _ruben: Ive never formatted an entire disk without paritioning it
[20:43] <trym_work> but I take it that works then?
[21:14] <trym_work> anyone?
[21:26] <cemc> trym_work: should work without partitions too
[21:41] <trym_work> thanks :)
[21:41] <trym_work> any idea when it comes to blocksize?
[23:21] <sparky_> hello?
[23:24] <giovani2> read the title
[23:24] <giovani2> topic*
[23:24] <giovani2> just ask if you have a question
[23:27] <sparky_> Ok, i'm a noob to irc and ubuntu.  Anyways  i'm setting up a home NAS with Ubuntu server 8.04.2 and was looking for a way to install a desktop gui..  but i want one that didn't have much to it just something plain.  does anyone have any suggestions on which on to use?
[23:27] <giovani2> this channel doesn't support guis on servers
[23:28] <giovani2> they're not going to help you administer a server
[23:28] <giovani2> but, if you want one -- you can install one
[23:30] <sparky_> well is there a web interface that could help me instead of a desktop gui?
[23:30] <giovani2> there are many ... I doubt anyone here uses them, you should really learn to use the console interface
[23:31] <giovani2> there are some good books on getting started, I'd recommend some if you're interested
[23:32] <twb> The package gnome-system-tools provides a handful of GUIs for basic things, such as adding and removing users.
[23:32] <twb> These GUI apps can be use ssh -X, so that X need not be installed.
[23:33] <twb> These GUI apps can be use ssh -X, so that X need not be installed (on the server).
[23:34] <twb> There are also packages like webmin, which try to do the same thing in a browser.  In my experience, they all really, *really* suck, and will quietly destroy your entire system.
[23:34] <sparky_> what are some of the books that would help me with the console.  I would like to learn that more anyways but don't have anyone to teach me
[23:34] <twb> sparky_: RUTE is an excellent, if dated, introduction to general Linux system administration.
[23:34] <twb> (It is also downloadable gratis.)
[23:35] <twb> For paid-for dead-tree books, I have a general preference for anything published by ORA (O'Reilly).
[23:35] <giovani2> http://www.apress.com/book/view/9781430210825
[23:36] <twb> Apress is my second choice :-)
[23:36] <giovani2> I've read this book, it's pretty decent, and offers some good ubuntu-specific info
[23:36] <JanC> apress has some good books too
[23:36] <giovani2> and it's up-to-date
[23:36] <giovani2> to 8.04 LTS
[23:36] <giovani2> so covers upstart, etc
[23:36] <twb> sparky_: as for getting people to teach you, I strongly suggest you get in touch with your local Linux User Group.  They often have monthly meetings and such.
[23:36] <twb> giovani2: sounds good.
[23:37] <JanC> there are several free "books" for the console though
[23:37] <giovani2> some minor spelling/grammar issues, but minimal technical errors
[23:37] <hads> !ebox
[23:37] <sommer>  
[23:38] <twb> I don't like Apress' use of ragged right and humanist fonts, though :-)
[23:39] <sparky_> JanC, where are these free "books" ?
[23:39] <JanC> http://tille.garrels.be/training/ has some books too (maybe not always 100% correct(?), but good enough for many)
[23:39] <JanC> and there are the IBM redbooks
[23:46] <JanC> and some of these books: http://www.informit.com/promotions/promotion.aspx?promo=135563 are downloadable for free too