[12:23] <gioele> hello
[12:24] <gioele> is "public location for branch XXX" a synonym for "public branch for branch XXX"?
[12:26] <LarstiQ> gioele: context?
[12:27] <gioele> LarstiQ: lp-open
[12:27] <LarstiQ> gioele: yeah
[12:39] <gioele> can we say that in general "{push,pull,public,parent,bound} location" and "xxx branch" have the same meaning?
[12:47] <LarstiQ> gioele: branches are usually addressed by their location/url. The two aren't exactly the same things (in bzrlib one is a str, the other a Branch)
[12:47] <LarstiQ> gioele: but that's semantic nitpicking
[12:48] <LarstiQ> gioele: for the bzr cli, yeah, that should be the case
[12:49] <LarstiQ> gioele: location of the {push,pull,public,parent,bound} branch
[13:36] <gioele> what is the purpose of the 'submit location'. What is the submit branch used for?
[13:48] <gioele> I jot down my findings at http://bazaar-vcs.org/Locations Thoughts?
[20:30] <LarstiQ> BasicOSX: replied to your mail
[20:40] <BasicOSX> ok
[20:44]  * LarstiQ goes to bed
[20:45] <BasicOSX> haven't gotten your email :-)
[20:46] <LarstiQ> BasicOSX: basically, the failure is harmless, don't let it block 1.13
[20:47] <BasicOSX> ok
[20:47] <LarstiQ> BasicOSX: ok, good luck :)
[21:16] <lifeless> BasicOSX: no I didn't do the cherrypicks, I was offline - sorry
[21:17] <BasicOSX> I got it, good lesson to learn, wasn't sure how PQM worked, but figured it out, just putting the finishing touches announcements
[21:18] <lifeless> BasicOSX: cool
[21:19] <BasicOSX> IRC op please update the /topic to 1.13 release 15 Mar
[21:19] <BasicOSX> Thank you
[21:28] <cody-somerville> Is it possible to selectively revert revisions?
[21:29] <cody-somerville> ex. revert changes that occurred revision #3
[21:30] <cody-somerville> oh bloody hell, my nose is bleeding again. brb.
[21:41] <spiv> BasicOSX: thanks for the release!
[21:41] <BasicOSX> I aim to please
[21:41] <BasicOSX> I also jabber to please
[22:07] <mwhudson> yay bzr 1.13
[22:22] <lifeless> spiv: shall the two musketeers ride today?
[22:23] <spiv> lifeless: sure.  Alright if I head down to Epping?
[22:23] <lifeless> sounds great
[22:29] <jfroy> yay!
[23:01] <cammoblammo> I'm sure I'm missing something... How do I install bzr (from source) to /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin ?
[23:01] <BasicOSX> pretty much anywhere you want it installed
[23:01] <BasicOSX> Just need to make sure bzr is in your path
[23:02] <BasicOSX> I put it into /usr/local/share/ and symlink /usr/local/bin to /usr/local/share/
[23:02] <BasicOSX> meaning I symlink /usr/local/bin/bzr to /usr/local/share/bzr.dev/bzr
[23:02] <cammoblammo> How do I tell it where to go though? By default it goes into /usr/bin
[23:03] <BasicOSX> From tarball?
[23:04] <cammoblammo> From the bzr repo.
[23:04] <BasicOSX> how are you getting it from the repo?
[23:05] <BasicOSX> don't understand if you don't have bzr installed how are you getting bzr from a repo?
[23:05] <cammoblammo> I pulled http://bazaar-vcs.org/bzr/bzr.dev/ and update it once in a while with bzr pull.
[23:06] <BasicOSX> Just mv the bzr.dev to where you want it to live
[23:08] <lifeless> cammoblammo: are you running setup.py ?
[23:09] <cammoblammo> Yes.
[23:10] <lifeless> cammoblammo: setup.py install --home=/usr/local
[23:11] <lifeless> cammoblammo: BasicOSX is talking about an alternative where you don't really install it; just run 'make' and then symlink $(src)/bzr into your path somewhere
[23:11] <BasicOSX> yes, I am, sorry
[23:11] <Peng_> I use --prefix, not --home. :O
[23:11] <cammoblammo> Ah. I thought it'd be something like that. There isn't somewhere I can set it permanently?
[23:12] <lifeless> Peng_: either is fine, I think.
[23:12] <lifeless> cammoblammo: not as far as I know
[23:13] <cammoblammo> Oh well, I can live with it. Thanks for your help folks!
[23:14] <cammoblammo> Hmm. Is there a setup.py uninstall command?
[23:18] <lifeless> No ><. setup.py is a poor replacement for packaging [there are packages of bzr for most platforms..]
[23:21] <cammoblammo> Yeah, Debian took too long to give me something recent. I can use the --record option on install and use that to delete what doesn't need to be there.
[23:27] <jml> I'm reading my notes from last week
[23:27] <jml> and I've got one that says "Gotchas w/ progress reporting in bzr 1.13"
[23:27] <jml> does anyone have a clue what I meant? :)
[23:30] <lifeless> yes, I do
[23:31] <lifeless> bzr 1.13 does much less ('no') progress reporting during large fetches, instead the network activity reporting is the whole thing
[23:34] <jml> lifeless: but it still does fairly granular activity reporting, right?
[23:35] <lifeless> jml: I don't know what you mean
[23:35] <lifeless> so perhaps I can phrase it differently
[23:36] <lifeless> a local-disk new clone operation will output perhaps 1 seconds worth of progress bar stuff right at the start, then nothing until the tree building at the end
[23:37] <lifeless> a over the network new clone will output perhaps 1 seconds worth of progress bar stuff at the start, and then the network activity when data is being read/written to the network, then the tree building progress bar at the end
[23:37] <lifeless> fin
[23:39] <lifeless> does anyone know who yoboy is?
[23:40] <Peng_> BasicOSX and everyone else: Congrats on the release. :)
[23:54] <lifeless> igc: you can move bugs by clicking on the status, and then typing in a new product in the box
[23:56] <igc> lifeless: sure
[23:57] <lifeless> igc: :P - perhaps I was wrong to move that bug to qbzr that you'd closed?
[23:57] <igc> lifeless: And you're reminding me because?
[23:57] <lifeless> igc: because I thought you closed something that was better moved
[23:58] <igc> lifeless: I closed it because the person raising it wasn't sure how to close it
[23:58] <lifeless> erm syntax, because you closed something I thought was better moved
[23:58] <lifeless> ah
[23:58] <lifeless> my bad
[23:58] <igc> lifeless: ah - ok
[23:59]  * lifeless is a little twitchy on bugs today, after an unknown marked four unrelated surface-related-unicode bugs as dups