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Guest61622quien sabe español o00:00
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Guest61622Spanish00:00
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ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:00
tarimarihi guys00:00
tarimarihow i can write chinese in kubuntu 8.10 / kde 4.2?00:01
Guest6162200:01
Guest61622who knows Spanish00:01
acemoo!es | Guest6162200:02
ubottuGuest61622: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:02
MariaJ_bazhang, what did installing wicd remove? network-manager? and network-manager-kde ?00:02
bazhangtarimari, skim/scim00:03
drostietarimari: With Cellwriter and a tablet input device, or by using a dual-input keyboard and setting the keyboard preferences in KDE to respect that, methinks.00:03
bazhangMariaJ_, generally yes it does remove network manager00:03
tarimaribazhang: i trieed with skim/scim. i installed them but didnt work. i dont know why. do they need any special configuration at some text files?00:04
bazhangtarimari, unless you are referring to handwritten input then see drostie above00:04
tarimarino handwritten00:05
tarimarijust pinyin00:05
bazhangtarimari, yep; global setup00:05
luciosalve a tutti00:05
bazhangtarimari, cn? tw? hk or other00:05
bazhang!it | lucio00:05
ubottulucio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)00:05
tarimaricn00:06
drostietarimari: what happens if you press Alt-F2 and type in scim at the prompt?00:06
bazhangtarimari, let me try to set mine up (tw here) :)00:06
drostieOr is that not how scim works?00:06
bazhangtarimari, this is kubuntu 8.10?00:06
tarimariyes kubuntu 8.1000:07
tarimarilet's run scim00:07
bazhangtarimari, let me check00:07
tarimariSCIM has exited abnormally.00:07
tarimarii also run skim but no result00:07
Guest61622quien habla español00:07
bazhang你好00:07
p_quarlesGuest61622: for the last time, this is an English language channel; go to #kubuntu-es00:08
bazhangGuest61622, /j #ubuntu-es00:08
bazhangoops00:08
Guest61622以及良好的和你00:08
bazhang#kubuntu-es00:09
bazhangGuest61622, then you will be wanting #ubuntu-cn00:09
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Guest18945me llamo edixon00:11
Guest18945y tup00:12
tarimaribazhang: you said "let me check" did u find something?00:12
bazhangtarimari, yep, all set up here; you need to run the skim setup and have the language support installed00:12
ubuntu_gnome stuff, will it run on kde?00:12
bazhangubuntu_, sure00:12
ubuntu_nice00:13
tarimarithe skim is written for kde 3.5. does it work with kde 4?00:13
bazhangtarimari, works here; are you using 4.1 or 4.2? not sure if there are bugs associated with 4.2 or not00:13
ubuntu_so how much difference for a power user would there be between ubuntu and kbuntu as far as function?00:13
bazhangubuntu_, not much; mostly just visual00:14
ubuntu_bazhang :) you are good to hang in here and answer stupid questions. thanks00:14
ubuntu_so i have ubuntu desktop on a machine in the garage00:14
Guest18945yes00:14
bazhangubuntu_, this is a much less busy channel; plus maco gets mad if I call !ot here too much00:14
ubuntu_i like the add/remove software applet00:14
ubuntu_lol00:15
macohahah00:15
bazhang:(00:15
ubuntu_does ubuntu server offer the same desktop software in its stock build?00:15
sixofourwhat is the package for pyrthon 2.2? need it to install a program00:15
sixofourfor apt-get00:15
ubuntu_and, are most of them the same for kbuntu?00:15
bazhangubuntu_, no; it does include the gui stuff of course (though you can install if you wish)00:16
bazhangerr does not00:16
Guest18945 what is the package for pyrthon 2.2? need it to install a program00:16
Guest18945 what is the package for pyrthon 2.2? need it to install a program00:16
bazhangGuest18945, install what00:16
bazhangGuest18945, posting once is fine00:16
ubuntu_i was trying some different distros and love centos for a server i put together at work00:17
sixofourgust jsut copied what i said bazhang00:17
ubuntu_but cent doesnt offer much on the desktop for home00:17
sixofourguest*00:17
sixofourwhat is the apt-get package for python 2.2?00:17
bazhang!give me a test00:17
ubottuOh no, I won't, I'm not like some of those nasty scripts' users!00:17
bazhangGuest18945, hi00:17
bazhangsixofour, install what00:18
sixofourpython 2.200:18
sixofouri need it00:18
bazhangto install what00:18
sixofourprograms00:18
bazhanggl00:18
ubuntu_bazhang, does kubuntu support wine?00:18
sixofourlol00:18
Guest18945this is my number 0426831479100:19
sixofourdo you know the python 2.2 package name or not?00:19
bazhangubuntu_, yep of course00:19
ubuntu_cool00:19
Beardbar1offish topic: just switched to kubuntu and wanted to know any other web developers favorite ftp client.00:19
bazhangsixofour, how about providing some more info00:19
sixofourthat is all i have00:19
sixofour"requiresments: python 2.2"00:19
sixofourand wxpython 2.6.000:19
bazhangsixofour, what exact package requires that00:19
ubuntu_Beardbar1: filezilla00:19
sixofourthere is no package, its a source coede i will compile00:19
sixofourcode800:20
bazhang!info code800:20
ubottuPackage code8 does not exist in intrepid00:20
sixofourcode*00:20
sixofourlol00:20
bazhangsource code of what package?00:20
Beardbar1ubuntu_: firezilla works on linux, cool00:20
sixofour..........00:20
sixofournever mind00:20
ubuntu_yes00:20
bazhangok00:21
sixofouri'll ask in ubuntu00:21
bazhangsee you there00:21
Guest18945this is my number call me 04268314791 Edixon00:21
bazhangGuest18945, not here00:21
p_quarlesGuest18945: please stop spamming the channel00:21
bazhangGuest18945, this is kubuntu support NOT chat channel00:21
bazhangGuest18945, #kubuntu-offtopic for that00:22
p_quarlesI don't think it's wise/okay to give out your telephone number there, either00:22
tarimarii didnt manage anything with chinese00:22
tarimarii just installed a ton of programs00:22
bazhang!info skim00:23
ubottuskim (source: skim): smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-4ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 1235 kB, installed size 2716 kB00:23
bazhangtarimari, is skim itself installed?00:23
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tarimariyes00:23
MagicDuckhi, I prefer the gnome update-notifier instead of the standard adept one kde uses. Is there a way to change it?00:23
tarimariskim is 3.5, kde is 4.2.00:23
Beardbar1ubuntu_: i think you told me the other day of a package that installed a lamp so I didnt have to do everything individually00:24
tarimariapart from skim, i have also installed scim and uim.maybe they fight each other?00:24
bazhangdoubt it00:24
ubuntu_it's true, there are tons of lamp packages that will do all that preconfigured to run00:25
Beardbar1ubuntu_: any popular suggestions?00:25
tarimaribazhang any idea for me?00:25
ubuntu_im not really sure, let me look at a few i have used and f5 my head..00:26
bazhangtarimari, how about running scim setup? add to panel then right click 'setup scim'00:26
Beardbar1ubuntu_: thanks man00:26
tarimariwhat you mean to add at panel? which panel?00:27
ubuntu_Beardbar1: check this out - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)00:27
bazhang!lamp00:27
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)00:27
tarimariscim gives me error when i run from cli00:27
ubuntu_well said ubottu00:27
ubuntu_did you just make that up?00:27
bazhangtarimari, what error and why from cli00:28
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP00:28
tarimarihttp://pastebin.com/d504425e000:29
tarimaribecause i dont know how to start it from gui00:29
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tarimaribazhang you just use skim? then what settings?00:30
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ubuntu_well hey thanks bazhang. i think ill install this kub.. everything ive tried defaults with gnome, but this seems tighter.00:31
penguin42_hmm quassel is very pretty, still can't do the seperate window stuff I like in ksirc though00:31
ubuntu_thanks for the info00:31
rootel_redi@hotmail.com00:31
x_linkHi!00:31
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ubuntu_good luck Beardbar100:31
bazhangtarimari, well I added to the only panel that kde4 has, then ran scim setup to choose the various languages I needed (chinese, japanese etc) and a little keyboard now resides there for easy clicking/changing input methods00:31
x_linkI used to go to a path before where I had some apps-folder + config-folders.00:32
Guest18270este es mi msn el_redi@hotmail.com00:32
bazhangubuntu_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop00:32
x_linki don't remember the path forit anymore =/00:32
tarimaribazhang i think i chose the difficult way and i messedup00:32
x_linkAre 2 folders I want to go to.00:32
bazhangGuest18270, please stop00:32
tarimaribazahg : panel means "system settings" ?00:32
x_linkSomething like /usr/share/config and /user/share/apps.00:32
bazhangtarimari, doubt it. just try again. It took me several times to get it going so dont fret00:32
x_linkI know that it's not /user/share, but I want to to go /apps and /config.00:33
x_linkAnybody understand what I mean?00:33
tarimaribazhand which is the scim setup for you? language setup?00:33
ubuntu_bazhang, would that work for plain ubuntu? like does it install kde4 on the regular desktop release of ubuntu?00:33
x_linkAnybody?00:33
bazhangubuntu_, well, it does, then you choose which you wish to launch from the login window00:33
ubuntu_ah nice00:33
ubuntu_so having kde and gnome both installed hurts nothing?00:34
bazhangubuntu_, you can also install lxde, xubuntu-desktop, fluxbox and others and pick and choose which is the best to your liking00:34
mefisto__x_link: maybe you should tell us what you are trying to achieve?00:34
bazhangubuntu_, just messy/overlong menu entries :)00:34
x_linkmefisto__: I want to go to the ktorrent-folder00:34
sixofourso i have a soruce code in a .jar file, any ideas how to install it?00:35
ubuntu_cool00:35
x_linkI've been there alot of times, just don't remember the path.00:35
x_linkOne should end with /apps and one with /config.00:35
bazhangsixofour, you find python?00:35
sixofourapparently i already have it00:35
bazhangaha00:35
tarimarii think i will not manage it without screenshots00:35
sixofourbut this is soemthign compeltely unrelated00:35
p_quarlessixofour: it should come with a readme; .jar == Java archive, but the exact instructions will vary00:35
macosixofour: jars just get run, usually00:35
sixofouri'm trying to install benojt00:36
bazhangtarimari, let me get you a weblink for that00:36
sixofourfrom terminal00:36
macojava -jar program.jar00:36
sixofourand i have a .jar file00:36
tarimaribazhang thanks a lot man. are you chinese?00:36
macothey dont normally need to be installed separate00:36
bazhangtarimari, aren't we all?00:36
tarimariwell... :)00:37
macosixofour: that was at you00:37
sixofourer00:37
sixofourhow do i amke a shortcut?00:37
sixofourfor desktop00:37
tarimarisome forums say that kde 4 has problem with skim00:37
p_quarlessixofour: put the command in the short command field :)00:37
sixofourdon't want to open terminal and type a command every time i use it00:37
tarimariso you use skim or scim bazhang?00:38
tarimari 00:38
tarimari 00:38
sixofourhuh ? what?00:38
tarimarisorry for the extra lines :S00:38
sixofourshort command field?00:38
p_quarlessixofour: shortcut command field*00:38
mefisto__x_link: .kde directory?00:38
sixofour<---4 day linux user00:38
p_quarlessixofour: it depends on your setup, but in the place you want the shortcut, you'd need to create it and enter the command maco gave you in the "command" field00:39
bazhangtarimari, hang on please (patience) :)00:40
josh-lhey folks, running kubuntu jaunty, i cant connect to my wireless router, i tried booting off 8.10 disk, and was able to connect no problems00:44
tarimarithanks bazhang. ok i uninstalled  skim. and installed scim.     i have the scim icon at desktop. i can run scim setup00:45
tarimarii follow http://www.chinese-forums.com/showpost.php?p=165460&postcount=300:46
tarimaribut im-switch -s scim  gives me error00:46
bazhangtarimari, great; I was having a heck of a time finding screenshots00:46
tarimariNo system wide default defined just for locale en_US . Use "all_ALL" quasi-locale and set IM. update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim'.00:47
p_quarlessocceroos: hey, could you fix your connection, please?00:47
tarimarimaybe this creates the problem, bazhang?00:47
josh-lhelp please00:47
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bazhangtarimari, alt f2 scim-setup00:48
tarimariok i m inside there00:48
tarimarinow there are so many options here ;)00:48
bazhangtarimari, yeah you have to fiddle a bit; iirc a reboot (or at least logout and login ) are necessary to get it going00:49
tarimariok i ll do as i did many times in the past. so the error message above, does not matter?00:49
p_quarles!jaunty | josh-l00:49
ubottujosh-l: Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.00:49
bazhangcontrol and space to open er up00:49
bazhangtarimari, dont worry about all the commands as the scim-setup seems to function, if not then can troubleshoot at that point00:50
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psycohey there01:01
psycojust wondering01:01
psycowhat is the diff between 32bit and 64bit kubuntu01:01
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Dr_Willis32 bits :)01:03
shanewhats the command to install kubutnu desktop?01:03
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Dr_Willisapt-get install kubuntu-desktop ;)01:04
ubuntu_thanks :)01:04
philenaThe instructions to upgrade to kde 4.2 is not working for me.  I'm trying to do everything in the terminal.  I don't like the file managers01:04
Dr_Willisclarify what part is not working..01:06
sourcemakerhow can I download podcast?01:06
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scroathi01:08
psycohow easy is it to go from ext3 to ext4?01:08
scroati would like to install fglrx the ATI way.01:08
psycoisnt the april ubuntu gonna use ext4?01:08
p_quarlespsyco: not by default, no01:09
philenaafter I do the get-apt update, then the desktop-kubuntu, it says the current kubuntu is installed01:09
sourcemakerisn't ext4 still unstable?01:09
psycooh ok01:09
psycoi saw some benchies and it looked a tad faster01:09
psycowill i have to reformatt my drive to ext4?01:10
psycoand lose my files?01:10
philenaCan't I just add to the source list for the KDE 4.2.01:10
sourcemakerI read a blog about a critical issue with ext4 losing files...01:10
p_quarlespsyco: there are some advantages, but there are also problems with some apps that are expecting to use ext3 features01:10
psycoyeah i just read that01:10
psycohmm01:10
psycoalright, i guess for now ill hold off on the migration01:11
scroatanyone install fglrx for a Radeon RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]01:11
psycoso 64 bit linux seems to be a tad faster,01:11
psycohow much more of a hassle is it?01:11
Dr_Willisnow a days - ive had very few issues with 64bit01:12
philenaso, I shouldn't upgrade to 4.2?01:13
philenaand wait for the 9.04?01:13
philenaI downloaded the alt iso file.  But I can't burn.  Do I need to change settings for my DVD-rom?01:14
p_quarlesphilena: what burning software are you using?01:15
psycois it easy to enable 4gb of ram in 32bit?01:15
philenakd3 was the instruction01:15
scroati need fglrx drivers01:16
philenabut right-click on the iso didn't work, so I just tried to open the program.  it did the mdf5 check or whatever, but I can't continue after than01:16
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philenahmm.. something different is on my adept now.  Let me wait til it's finished.  Maybe it was me.  I couldn't get the ppa.launchpad to work yesterday.  All I saw was FAILED. Like the link was broken01:20
mefisto__scroat: have you tried enabling the driver from menu > system > hardware drivers  ?01:21
philenaare we suppose to still use that deb url?01:21
scroatmefisto__: is that the best way?01:21
scroati'll try that01:21
scroatmefisto__: i mean, is installing catalyst necessary ?01:21
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mefisto__scroat: catalyst as in the control panel for the driver? no, not necessary at all. I can't see any point to it, actually01:22
scroatmefisto__: ok i activated the driver.  does is configure xorg.conf for me?01:22
mefisto__scroat: very minimal change to xorg.conf but you may need to make some changes to it yourself (as I did) to get decent resolutions available01:24
scroatok01:24
scroati'll reboot.  see what happens thanx.01:24
philenaI didn't know how to delete old plasmoid files.  Sorry, I'm still rather new to Linux, and I have to work in bash just to get started.  So far I only got Ooo3 installed, firefox, have to figure out how to upgrade seamonkey, and now working on KDE01:28
ubuntu_how does one install the latest xvid and likes codecs?01:28
ubuntu_NICE ntfs support out of the box :)01:29
ubuntu_liking this so far01:29
philenaAnd would someone PLEASE tell me why I can only get sound with SKYPE?01:29
ubuntu_how many sound cards do you have philena? like is there an onboard (mb) as well as a pci card?01:31
mefisto__ubuntu_: I think philena is complaining about no video01:31
philenaI dunno.  I don't have computer speakers.  I'm using my USB headsets.01:32
ubuntu_ah01:32
mefisto__ubuntu_: or maybe not01:32
ubuntu_there you go01:32
sourcemakerwhich mail provider are you using?01:32
ubuntu_i bet you have to configure PER APP01:32
ubuntu_what sound card to use01:32
philenaI tried to change the settings.  Universal.... aww man.. really?01:33
ubuntu_usb headphones act as thier own sound card in a way01:33
ubuntu_im not sure where sound settings are in ubutnu, but if you can find that, change it to your usb gizmo as a default and there you are01:33
ubuntu_finished prolly01:33
ubuntu_butnu01:34
ubuntu_lol01:34
ubuntu_sorry01:34
philenaI think that's what I was trying to do with Kmixer??01:35
mefisto__philena: look in systemsettings. multimedia or sound ?01:36
ubuntu_ya, see i have 2 sound cards in this  one01:36
ubuntu_in kubuntu there is a system settings icon01:37
ubuntu_i go there and clicked on the sound icon01:37
ubuntu_i get a device preference dialog01:37
ubuntu_that's where you want to be01:37
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andrew_hola01:38
ubuntu_i use 2 becasue one hooks to speakers and the other is phones, that way i can change the default device to listen to phones or speakers without having to mess with wires/plugs01:38
* ubuntu_ thinks about how lazy that sounds01:38
andrew_somebody know which is the chanell of kubuntu in spanish?01:39
ubuntu_holy horse crap, 300 meg of updates from a fresh install of kubuntu01:39
mefisto__ubuntu_: just curious, how do you change default soundcard? from systemsettings?01:40
ubuntu_yes, in kubuntu it is in the system settings, then there is a Sound icon01:40
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ubuntu_in there it shows you both cards, and has a place to choose default device01:41
philenaI understand.  I want to keep skype on the USB, I'm going to test some headsets that plug in the audio inputs once adept is finish doing whatever it's doing01:41
philenagot 2 2004 e-series cpu from Devry because they are upgrading some computer rooms.  One I have Kubuntu, and the other I want to turn into a NAS.  once I figure all this out01:43
paonline1i want to conected firefox for kubuntu01:49
mefisto__paonline1: if you mean you want to install firefox: sudo apt-get install firefox01:50
paonline1thanks01:51
scroathi01:54
mefisto__scroat: how did it go?01:55
scroatmefisto__: hi so i rebooted.  fglrx is installed. but it doesent play quake wars (i hear sound, but distorted visual).01:55
scroathere's my info http://rafb.net/p/fsSpwN27.html01:55
scroatno 3D games  :(01:55
scroati see the glxgears...01:55
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scroat video plays fine on vlc.  why not games? everything else seems to be in place.01:56
mefisto__scroat: does it work with desktop effects switched off?01:59
scroati dont think  i have desktop effects on in the first place.01:59
scroatthis is my card.  RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]01:59
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ayehi01:59
ayehey02:00
mefisto__scroat: you could also try adding these options to your xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/131381/02:01
paonline1hello02:01
philenaOk, I'm back02:01
ayewelcome02:01
philenaAll of KDE is gone.  I only have the terminal to work with :(02:02
mefisto__scroat: to turn on/off desktop effects, right-click a window titlebar, configure window behaviour02:02
scroatmefisto__: yes the checkbox for "Enable Desktop Effects"  is not checked.02:03
aye"All of KDE is gone", what you mean?02:03
scroatmefisto__: they outa not be correct ?02:03
philenaI no longer have a GUI I think.02:04
mefisto__scroat: well it's easier to get things working without desktop effects02:04
ayei see02:04
scroatok ima reboot. see what happens with these new xorg settings.02:04
philenait says you must manually run "dpkg --configure -a" to correct the problem02:04
mefisto__philena: did you do that?02:06
philenawell, I thought I was suppose to remove plasmoid and kde-manager because there was a conflict or something02:07
philenaI guess I took too much out02:07
mefisto__philena: so did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a   ?02:08
philenaok.. it says idconfig deferred processing now taking place.  Setting up phono-backend-xine02:09
mefisto__philena: an upgrade or install was interrupted, it seems02:10
philenaright02:10
philenait said that too02:10
mefisto__philena: are you upgrading to kde 4.2 or something?02:10
philenacorrect02:10
ayeDoes anyone know how install a .deb file? 3x02:11
mefisto__aye: you can double-click it in dolphin or konqueror02:12
mefisto__aye: or in konsole: sudo dpkg -i <program.deb>02:12
aye3x02:12
scroatmefisto__: sorry, still no image on 3D games.02:13
philenaso, now what do I do?02:13
ayebut if i use the command line, what should i do?02:13
scroatanyone use a Radeon X12000 series that succefully installed fglrx ?02:13
mefisto__scroat: did it work before installing fglrx?02:13
scroatno02:13
mefisto__scroat: I have the same card as you. looks like the driver is installed correctly02:14
^stigscroat: mine is radeon xpress x1100, fglrx installed02:14
scroatmefisto__: do you use a toshiba laptop ?02:14
joshjtlcan I save dolphin window size?02:15
mefisto__scroat: no, not a laptop02:15
mefisto__josh-l: right-click dolphin window titlebar, advanced, special application settings02:16
joshjtlthx mefisto__02:17
philenaEven if I have to do this the old fashion way, just let me know.  I don't know why my install broke02:19
philenabut I can't go farther than the terminal at this point02:19
mefisto__scroat: btw, you don't need to reboot after changing xorg.conf, just restart X (alt-ctrl-backspace or logout and alt-E)02:20
philenaIs my sourcelist gone too now?02:20
scroatmefisto__: when i pull a ---> /etc/init.d/kmd restart  ;  it just stays at the terminal02:20
scroatsometimes02:20
opopskidoosh.02:20
scroatmefisto__: can you have a looksee at my xorg.conf file?  http://rafb.net/p/1rfMj530.html02:21
philenado I have the do the ftp thing in the terminal to get the GUI?02:22
ayewhat a slow update of system language configuration!02:22
ayeinstall X02:23
mefisto__scroat: looks fine. mine is the same, except I have added some details to the "Monitor" section because my monitor wasn't detected properly02:24
paonline1how i can download music for amarok02:24
scroatlooks like a job for windows.02:25
scroatlinux garbage.02:26
philena*sigh* anyone?02:26
joshjtlother than just changing the plasma theme, can i adjust opacity of the panel?02:26
DaSkreech!ldap02:27
ubottuLDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer02:27
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mefisto__philena: where are you at now?02:30
philenaI'm still in the terminal wondering how to get kde back in02:31
philenakinit: No resume image, doing normal boot02:31
scroatthis is my xorg log file.  http://rafb.net/p/T96WND30.html02:32
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mefisto__philena: just to make sure you got all the upgrades done and nothing is missing because of the install interruption: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get upgrade02:33
scroatlook what elese i found (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported02:33
philenaOops.. forgot the sudo apt-get upgrade one.  thanks.  it's doing something now02:34
philenamefisto: Ok.. finished the upgrade one.  What's next02:36
scroatmefisto__: im running 32Bit kubuntu on a 64bit machine.  how can i make sure im running 32 fglrx?02:36
mefisto__scroat: not sure, but I doubt it would work at all if it was the wrong driver02:40
scroatit's the wrong driver?02:40
scroatthis linux crap sucks.02:40
mefisto__scroat: it's ati you should be complaining about02:41
progmanosIs there a Strigi applet for KDE 4?02:43
philenamefisto__do I have to reboot after I did the sudo apt-get upgrade?02:45
philenaoops02:45
philenaI'm not good at this IRC stuff02:46
mefisto__philena: either reboot, or try startx02:46
philenaXsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/user/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no termail emulators found; aborting02:48
Dr_Willisthats hard core02:48
Dr_Willismake a .xsession file that runs somthing?02:48
philenaOh sure.  No problem.. I make .xsession files all day.  Piece of cake... What?02:50
Dr_Willis2 lines in thefile02:50
Dr_Willisxterm &02:50
Dr_Willisexec WINDOWMAAGER02:50
Dr_Willisuse what wm you want.02:50
mefisto__philena: did you do  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    to make sure nothing is missing because of the upgrade interruption?02:50
Dr_Willisbut its weird thst the thing broke that badly02:50
larryi need the sudo command to unlock adept manager02:50
Dr_Willisunless you got 'Xsession' selected in the kdm login options02:51
mefisto__larry: kdesudo02:51
philenaRecommends: (a whole lotta apps) but it is not going to be installed E: broken packages02:52
larrykdesudo didnt work02:53
larryi was trying to update02:53
mefisto__larry: kdesudo adept manager02:54
larryill try that02:54
mefisto__larry: or you could just   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:54
philenaI have no idea why it broke. Everything was running just fine.02:54
sourcemakerhow can I save my public and private pgp key in asc file?02:54
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mefisto__larry: adept should ask for your password if you start it from the menu02:55
philenaI was in this chat while it was going.  Now I'm on my laptop trying to get it back up02:55
achemhey guys whats the source i should enter for backports for 8.1002:56
larrythat got it02:56
achemanyone??02:57
Dr_Willis!backports02:57
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging02:57
achem^^ sweet02:58
philenaIf my packages for KDE are broken.  Is there a way for me to start over in the terminal?02:59
Dr_Willisif the package sytstem is broken.. thats not good...03:00
achemlol03:00
Dr_Willissudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, and pray03:00
Dr_Willis:)03:00
philenadid that 3x now03:00
Dr_Willis!apt03:00
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:00
sourcemakerI solved the problem via command line... RTFM :-)03:01
mefisto__philena: did you see anything about which packages are the problem ones?03:01
larrydpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem, what dose this mean03:01
Dr_Willisrun the command it says....03:01
Dr_Williswith a sudo of course03:01
mefisto__larry: it means what it says03:01
mefisto__larry: dpkg handles the installation of packages03:02
philenayes.. Like   Recommends: kontact but it is not going to be installed.  I can't scroll up to see the other ones, but I see about 1303:02
achemyeaya finally sorted kde 4.2 out ( i think ) l8az going to check it out03:02
Dr_Willissudo apt-get update | less03:02
mefisto__philena: you can scroll up with shift-pageup03:02
Dr_Willis;)03:03
Guest18270hell03:05
Guest18270hello03:05
scroatmefisto__: according to ATI's installation doc,  agpgart is Not supposed to be compiled in the kernel.03:05
philena"Some packages could not be installed.  This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming."03:05
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philenaI'm trippin on the "impossible situation" part.  Sheeeeesh03:05
scroatif i want to recompile my kernel,  what dir do i go to?  i dont think kubuntu even comes with the src.03:06
edixonhola03:06
mefisto__philena: you probably have something installed that is interfering with the installation of other required packages03:07
mefisto__philena: try this: sudo apt-get remove koffice-data-kde403:08
philenapackage koffice-data-kde4 is not installed, so not removed03:09
mefisto__ok03:09
philenaThen it list all the java libraries that I believe came from Ooo303:09
philenasaying that they are no longer required03:10
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mefisto__philena: sudo apt-get remove plasmoid-*03:10
mefisto__philena: oh wait03:11
mefisto__philena: sudo apt-get autoremove03:11
mefisto__does autoremove remove anything?03:11
philenayes, it's removing 33 files03:11
edixonquien habla español soy de venezuela03:12
mefisto__ok, good sign03:12
mefisto__!es | edixon03:12
ubottuedixon: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:12
mefisto__philena: after they are removed, try    sudo apt-get upgrade   again03:13
philenaok..03:13
philenaThe following packages have been kept back: kdebase-runtime, kdebase...etc03:14
mefisto__philena: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    to install those03:15
philenafailed to fetch cdrom:  plase use apt-cdrom03:18
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mefisto__philena: cdrom?  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   and wherever you see a line starting  "deb cdrom"  put a # at the start of that line to comment it out03:21
philenaok.. should I uncomment the backports?03:23
mefisto__philena: no, you need backports to get the kde 4.2 packages03:23
mefisto__oh, yes uncomment03:24
philenaok03:24
philenaWhat about the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main ? Should I comment that out too or need that?03:25
mefisto__philena: no you don't need that one. 4.2 is in backports, and I assume the experimental ppa ones are old now03:26
scroathas anyone recompiled their kernel ?03:27
philenaawww.. that may have been my problem.03:29
philenaI did sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and the dist-upgrade says it needs 7549kB03:30
philena19 ungraded 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded03:31
mefisto__philena: what's the 1 not upgraded?  nearly there :)03:32
philenacan't tell yet03:33
larryman it did it again03:34
larrylocked up adept ,manger03:35
larrywhat was that command  sudo  what?03:35
larryi am going tp copy it tp my clip board this time03:36
mefisto__larry: adept crashed? frozen?03:36
larryyea03:37
bazhang!aptfix03:37
scroatwhats the ncurses library ?03:37
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:37
mefisto__larry: ctrl-esc to list running processes, and search for adept to make sure it's not still running first03:37
scroatA[A[A *** 'make menuconfig' requires the ncurses libraries.03:38
scroatthen it asks me to install some fictional packages03:38
scroatthere is no ncurses ncurses-devel03:38
^stiglibncurses5-dev03:40
philenaok.. it's done.  but I'm still stuck in the terminal03:42
mefisto__philena: if you try an upgrade now, does it still say 1 not upgraded?03:43
philenayes, system-config-printer-kde03:43
mefisto__philena: startx  ?  does that start kde now?03:44
philenanope.. still have the xsession error03:45
mefisto__philena: try rebooting then. I'm running out of ideas03:46
DaSkreechwhich error?03:46
philenaDaSkreech: Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/user/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no termail emulators found; aborting03:47
mefisto__DaSkreech: Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/user/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no termail emulators found; aborting03:47
philenaKinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...03:48
DaSkreechwhat?03:48
DaSkreechyour user name is user ?03:48
philenalmao.. no it's my username.. too funny03:49
philenasorry.. user = philena03:49
DaSkreechok03:50
DaSkreechWhen did this start?03:50
philenatrying to upgrade to 4.2 kde03:50
philenabroke during upgrade, After it removed all the kde03:51
philenadidn't know I wasn't suppose to use that ppa.launchpad link.  I didn't know it was outdated03:51
philenamefisto__: been helping get back right. Not sure what to do at this point.03:52
mefisto__DaSkreech: still one package not upgraded though: system-config-printer-kde03:53
DaSkreechmefisto__: That won't cause that error03:54
DaSkreechphilena: ok did you remove X ?03:54
mefisto__DaSkreech: didn't think so. is "startx" the best way to start kde from terminal?03:55
philenayou want me to autoremove again?03:55
DaSkreechmefisto__: yes03:55
philenaremove X?03:56
progmanosis there a strigi applet for plasma?03:57
larryif some files didnt download rigthh  like thunderbird .how do i redownlooad the files03:58
beardbaranyone have trouble getting oss to work with there creative SB x-FI ?03:59
mefisto__larry: you mean you were installing thunderbird and it didn't download properly?04:00
larryyes04:00
mefisto__larry: are you in adept? or konsole?04:01
larryadept04:01
mefisto__larry: close adept, then in konsole: sudo apt-get clean  (which will remove all archived deb files that have been downloaded) then: sudo apt-get install thunderbird04:02
philena*sigh* any luck on trying to figure out how I lost kde?04:08
philenado I have to use my Cd and start all over or umm... take some vicodin and call it a night?04:09
Frederickfolks can I use kubuntu to restore my mbr?04:09
FrederickI have gentoo, vista and ubuntu installed but vista got corrupted and I had to reisntall it so it destried the mbr04:10
Dr_Willisyou can use any linux to reinstall the grub if you want04:10
DaSkreechphilena: ok back04:10
DaSkreechWhat have you tried so far?04:10
DaSkreechany LInux that doesn't use Lilo04:11
Dr_Willisyou could use them also. :)04:11
Dr_Willisjust install the grub tools heh04:11
philenaI tried the Law of Attraction and praying..04:11
DaSkreechphilena: what happens when you type X ?04:12
DaSkreechphilena: I assume you know Vts ?04:12
DaSkreechVTs?04:12
DaSkreechwhere are you btw?04:12
DaSkreechon the machine that's broken?04:12
FrederickDr_WillisI did a backup of grub is it safe to reinstall it with $ sudo dd of=/dev/sdc if=mbr.img ?04:13
philenano, I'm on my laptop on my lap, sitting in front of the broken one04:13
philenaVTs?04:13
DaSkreechphilena: ok type X on it and see what it does04:13
DaSkreechVirtual Terminals04:13
DaSkreechTTYs04:13
philenaJust "x" by itself?04:13
DaSkreechX04:13
DaSkreechcaps counts04:14
DaSkreechAnd for somereason it decided to be different04:14
philenaOK.. a gray screen with an X in the middle04:14
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DaSkreechOk sweet so X works04:15
Dr_Willis:004:15
DaSkreechpress alt+ctrl+F1 to get back the terminal04:15
DaSkreechctrl+C04:15
philenak04:15
Dr_WillisFrederick,  you could i guess... but ive never been brave enogh to use dd on the mbr. :)04:15
DaSkreechand then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs504:15
DaSkreechFrederick: how big is mbr.img ?04:16
mefisto__!grub | Frederick04:16
ubottuFrederick: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:16
philenaI'm not getting a prompt now04:16
DaSkreechphilena: try alt+ctrl+F2 ?04:16
DaSkreechwait04:17
DaSkreechafter what?04:17
philenaafter the alt+ctrl+f104:17
DaSkreechTry alt+ctrl+F204:17
philenabut I'm back and logged in the terminal after the f2 combo.04:18
DaSkreechsweet04:18
DaSkreech killall X04:18
DaSkreechthen sudo apt-get remove kdelibs504:18
Frederickis there an otion on the live cd to repair grub?04:18
DaSkreechFrederick: Yes read the link ubottu gave you04:18
Frederickk04:19
DaSkreechphilena: Umm sudo apt-get install pastebinit04:19
DaSkreech!info pastebinit04:19
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-1 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 88 kB04:19
philenak04:20
DaSkreechdone?04:20
philenayep04:20
DaSkreechOk cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit04:21
DaSkreechgive me the URL04:21
philenahttp://pastebin.com/f1f636def04:21
DaSkreechphilena: Ok are you sure yo uwere using the PPA ?04:23
philenaI was, but I took it off the sourcelist already04:24
DaSkreechah bah04:24
DaSkreechok04:24
DaSkreechsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:24
draik__!nvidia04:25
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:25
philenadone04:26
DaSkreechphilena: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:26
philenaE: broken packages04:26
DaSkreechWhich?04:26
philenakde-window manage, kdebase-workspace-bin, ksysguard, language-selector... about 20 of them04:28
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install -f04:28
philenapackages installed and are no longer required: libica10 kedbase-runtime kdelibs5 phytho-dev etc04:29
DaSkreecherm04:29
DaSkreechsudo apt-get autoremove04:29
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philenadone04:30
DaSkreechno error messages ?04:31
DaSkreechor warnings?04:32
mefisto__philena: where those "no longer required" packages removed?04:32
philenayes04:32
philenaprocessing triggers for libc6... idconfig deffed processing now taking place, processing triggers for man-db04:33
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philena0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 1 not upgraded04:33
DaSkreechphilena: That's after what?04:36
philenait removed the 9 files04:37
DaSkreechah right04:37
DaSkreech:-D04:37
DaSkreechwhich isn't upgraded?04:37
philenathe printer one. but I don't think that will cause any problems04:39
mefisto__maybe remove that for now? what do you think DaSkreech?04:39
DaSkreechmefisto__: kubuntu-desktop will reinstall it04:40
DaSkreechphilena: Lets try remove it though04:40
DaSkreechremove it then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:41
mefisto__DaSkreech: that's what I was thinking, remove it, then kubuntu-desktop will install an upgraded one04:41
DaSkreechmefisto__: Hopefully ;-)04:41
mefisto__philena: maybe try autoremove after removing it to04:42
mefisto__too04:42
DaSkreechmefisto__: good call04:42
philenaok done.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded04:43
DaSkreechphilena: after autoremove ?04:43
philenaI still did the autoremove tho04:44
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philenanow you want to do the kubuntu-desktop?04:45
DaSkreechphilena: umm04:45
DaSkreechhow soon do you have to go?04:45
philenalike to the bathroom?  I'm good04:45
DaSkreechha ha04:46
mefisto__:)04:46
DaSkreechok when you install stuff it downloads the installers to your computer and caches them04:46
philenaright.. I think that's the part that broke04:46
DaSkreechyour cache right now is made up of ppa packages so I'm wondering if it would be more fun to see what happens04:46
DaSkreechDoubtful :)04:46
DaSkreechNo installs happen unles the cache of stuff is fulfilled04:47
PhrkOnLshis there any way to use KDE4's krunner in gutsy without pulling in KDE4?04:47
philenado I need to clear the cache?04:47
DaSkreechphilena: No you don't04:47
philenak04:47
DaSkreechIf you do you have to redownload everything04:47
DaSkreechwhich is safer04:47
DaSkreechbut this way is faster and more fun04:47
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)04:48
DaSkreechPhrkOnLsh: Can I assume you mean All of KDE4?04:48
PhrkOnLshyeah04:48
DaSkreechsince obviously if you are installing krunner you would have to install kde4 libs and base ?04:48
PhrkOnLshif there was just a krunner package, but there isn't.04:48
DaSkreech!info krunner04:48
philenaI still get the 20 broken packages and recommendations to install04:48
ubottuPackage krunner does not exist in intrepid04:48
PhrkOnLshthe last time I pulled kde4 from universe my system went mad04:49
DaSkreechphilena: don't install04:49
DaSkreechphilena: Which packages?04:49
DaSkreech!find krunner04:49
ubottuFile krunner found in kdebase-workspace-bin, kdebase-workspace-data, kdebase-workspace-dbg, kdeplasma-addons, kdeplasma-addons-data (and 58 others)04:49
philenayeah.. thoses are listed too04:50
DaSkreechPhrkOnLsh: install kdebase-workspace and you should get it04:50
mefisto__PhrkOnLsh: you could install katapult, which is very similar to kde4 krunner in function04:50
DaSkreechkatapult is installed by default on gutsy04:50
PhrkOnLshDaSkreech: Last time I did that, my system went haywire; it doesn't particularly like qt4 i think... :(04:50
PhrkOnLshDaSkreech: katapult sucks04:50
PhrkOnLshI'm using it right now04:50
DaSkreechkrunner is quite like it04:50
DaSkreechphilena: ok sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:51
PhrkOnLshit's slow to start up, it doesn't remember what you've typed in previously (why do I have to type past konquest before konqueror) etc04:51
PhrkOnLshI'd just upgrade to Hardy if my system had more ram.04:51
philenano different04:52
PhrkOnLshI much prefer the look and feel of kde404:52
DaSkreechPhrkOnLsh: well you can pull the kdebase-workspace debs and depends and try04:52
DaSkreechphilena: hrrm04:52
PhrkOnLshI'll try; thanks.04:52
DaSkreechapt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop04:52
philenakde-window-manager, kdebase-workspace_bin etc04:52
DaSkreechphilena: won't be installed ?04:53
philenanope04:53
DaSkreechphilena: install kde-window-manager by itself04:53
philenakubuntu-desktop: Installed (none) candidate 1.10104:53
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install kde-window-manager04:55
philenapackage has unmet dependencies: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libkdecorations4, libkwineffects104:55
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install libkwineffects104:55
philenalibkwineffects1 dependencies kdebase-workspace-libs4+504:56
DaSkreechrun apt-cache policy on that04:57
philenaYou're right, the merry-go-round is so fun :D04:57
DaSkreechyeah upgrading a lot of packages at the same time can get interesting04:57
DaSkreechI've had to go right do to a single package and override the defaults then everything just magically worked after04:58
mefisto__aptitude is often better at doing this package juggling. maybe try that instead of apt-get ?04:58
DaSkreechmebbe04:58
DaSkreechI just want to make sure that the packages are coming from the right repos04:58
philenaus.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-backports/main  intrepid-updates, intrepid-security, etc04:59
DaSkreechwhat version number ?04:59
DaSkreechfor candidate05:00
philena4:4.2.0-0ubuntu7 (backport), 4:4.1.4-0unbuntu1 (updates) 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu12 (main)05:01
philenaare they all suppose to be 4.2?05:01
DaSkreechThere should only be one in candidate line05:02
DaSkreechno05:02
philenaoh.. 4:4.2.0-0unbuntu7~intrepid105:02
DaSkreechok if that matches 4.2.0 for the apt-cache policy of kdelibs5 then try sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kde-window-manager05:03
philenawell, kdelibs5 says 4:4.2.0-0unbuntu2~intrepid205:05
DaSkreechok ccol05:06
DaSkreechtry sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kde-window-manager05:06
DaSkreechcool05:06
philenakdebase-workspace-libs4+5 depends libplasma305:07
DaSkreechtry sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kde-window-manager libplasma305:07
DaSkreechphilena: You know you can just press up to get history right?05:08
philenalibplasma3 depends kdelibs5-data (= 4:4.2.0-0buntu2~intrepid2) but 4:4.2.1a-0ubuntu~intrepid1 is to be installed05:09
phil__hello05:09
DaSkreechah ha05:09
philenaDaSkreech: yeah, I figured that out trying to PageUp earlier05:09
philenais the ah ha the 4:4.2.1a part?05:11
DaSkreechphilena: apt-cache policy kdelibs5-data and tell me which repo it's coming from05:11
DaSkreechYeah05:11
DaSkreechFigured something was screwy in the line05:11
DaSkreecheither getting 4.2.1 packages or getting 4.1.4 packages05:11
philena4:4.2.1a-0ubuntu1~intrepid105:12
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DaSkreechI know :) which repo is it coming from ?05:13
philenayou mena the version table?05:14
DaSkreechyes05:14
philena100 /var/lib/dpkg/status,05:14
hypernewbiehey, may i ask05:15
DaSkreecho_O05:15
hypernewbieis there a way to get the latest packages of kubuntu05:15
DaSkreech!ask05:15
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:15
hypernewbiewith KDE 3.905:15
hypernewbieinstead of KDE Vista Ultimate?05:15
DaSkreechphilena: anything under that ?05:15
hypernewbiesorry, re-ask05:15
hypernewbieis there a way to get kubuntu 8.10 with kde 2.905:16
hypernewbie3.9*05:16
philena500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-backports/ main packages, 4:4.2.005:16
mefisto__hypernewbie: kde 3.9 ? or 3.5.10?05:16
philena500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main05:16
hypernewbieall the nice new shiny kernel, but with kde <whatever dapper had>05:16
philena500 http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main05:17
philena500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main05:17
hypernewbiei have ubuntu right now, and would be nice if i could install KDE 3.905:17
mefisto__hypernewbie: there are non-official repos around. but I don't know where they are. google would probably find a few. I remember a post on ubuntu forums about one of them05:18
DaSkreechphilena: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5-data05:18
DaSkreechthen try the same install from before05:18
hypernewbiemefisto__: that doesn't really help...05:19
DaSkreechhypernewbie: kinda05:19
kuaeraGood morning, folks05:19
kuaeraThree things: One, the "droid" set of fonts is really rather awesome05:19
hypernewbieDaSkreech: i just want ubuntu ibex with outdated kde and kde libs05:19
kuaeraTwo, I can't get any of my KDE 4 filepicker dialog options to "stick"05:20
hypernewbieDaSkreech: anything that rids me of that horrid KDE Vista Ultimate05:20
kuaeraThree, "systemsettings" comes up blank.05:20
DaSkreechhypernewbie: look up apt-pearsoncomputing.net05:21
kuaeraI think 2 and 3 may be related to me hacking some stuff from the KDE repo, thus altering my PATH variable05:21
kuaeraBut #2 persists even when I've just booted up my system and haven't altered anything.05:21
yao_ziyuani removed adept and kpackagekit and try to use update-notifier to notify me of updates05:21
DaSkreechkuaera: KDEPAH05:21
DaSkreechKDEPATH05:21
yao_ziyuanbut when i run update-notifier from konsole it doesn't show a tray icon,05:21
kuaeraDaSkreech: I don't touch KDEPATH on my normal user.05:21
yao_ziyuanwhile there indeed are updates if i use apt-get05:21
DaSkreechkuaera: ok05:22
DaSkreechphilena: installs now?05:22
mefisto__hypernewbie: is this better?   http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kde+3+intrepid05:22
philenakubuntu-desktop depends kdebase-workspace-bin and recommends kdeplasma add-ons05:22
yao_ziyuangot it. has to use -c.05:23
DaSkreechphilena: did kde-window manager install?05:23
philenakdebase-workspace-bin depends kdebase-workspace-data (= 4.4.2.0-0unbuntu7~intrepid05:24
kuaeraDaSkreech: I even did "sudo chown <user>:<user> ~ -R" to no avail... I don't know why the setting isn't saving05:24
DaSkreechDisk full?05:24
kuaeraNope05:24
DaSkreechphilena: apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace-data ?05:25
philenaOh my, 11 new installs are prompted05:25
DaSkreech!puregnome05:25
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »05:25
DaSkreechbah05:25
DaSkreech!purekde05:25
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »05:25
DaSkreechGah05:26
philena!what05:26
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:26
philenaoh05:26
DaSkreechphilena: what's the version for kdebase-workspace-data ?05:27
hypernewbiemefisto__:thanks, I know how to use google now! ( Google: stuffing up linux installations since 1989 )05:27
philenaWell it's installing now05:27
philenaI can't tell05:28
mefisto__hypernewbie: well that's what you want to do :) installing kde3 in intrepid05:28
DaSkreechoh05:28
DaSkreechok :-)05:28
hypernewbiemefisto__: not really, KDE4 has stuffed kubuntu installation, now I'm here to fix it05:29
philenasetting up kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 (4:4.2.0-0ubuntu7~intrepid1)05:30
yao_ziyuani located this in update-notifier-kde:05:30
yao_ziyuanKProcess.startDetached("kcmshell4", ["kpk_update"])05:30
yao_ziyuani replaced kpk_update with update-manager but it doesn't work because update-manager is not a kcm module.05:30
* kuaera spins around and around. I've finally got a grip on C++ programming \\o/05:30
yao_ziyuanah,05:30
yao_ziyuani got it.05:30
kuaeraDaSkreech: Do you use Kontact/Korganizer?05:30
DaSkreechWheee05:30
DaSkreechyes lightly05:30
kuaeraI need some input for a project I'm working on.05:31
DaSkreech#kontact ?05:31
kuaeraThey're all asleep, and this is an end-user thing :P05:31
DaSkreechThey are end users as well :)05:31
kuaeraIt's been requested ("wish") that priorities have more visual impact, at least in the adjenda view [where all todos are visible]05:31
DaSkreechyeah05:32
kuaeraSo, I've played around with it some, and have a couple of options:05:32
philenaI'm still getting an error for install the kubuntu-desktop.   kdebase-workspace-bin still05:32
philenadepends05:32
hypernewbiemefisto__: thanks for the link though, this seems to work so far05:32
kuaera[1] A series of background gradients, dependent on the completion %, location in start date to end date, and priority [the most colorful, but confusing option]05:33
DaSkreech!ot | DaSkreech and kuaera Fascinating stuff but you know better05:33
ubottuDaSkreech and kuaera Fascinating stuff but you know better: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:33
DaSkreechOh right sorry ubottu05:33
DaSkreechphilena: Which error ?05:34
kuaera>_> Sorry.05:34
DaSkreechkuaera: Joining ?05:34
philenakubuntu-desktop dependencies on kdebase-workspace-bin  recommends: kdeplasma add-ons05:35
DaSkreechis it still installing ?05:35
philenabroken packages05:36
DaSkreechIs that a no?05:36
philenano05:36
DaSkreechok05:36
philenait says it's an "impossible situation" or unstable distro05:36
DaSkreechso that last no means yes?05:36
philenalol.. yes05:37
DaSkreechalright05:37
DaSkreechwell when you get back some control try apt-cache policy kdeplasma-addons05:38
philenacandidate: 4:4.2.0-0~intrepid105:39
DaSkreechit'sinstalled?05:39
philena500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-backports/ main packages, 4:4.2.005:41
philena500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main 4:4.1.405:41
philena100 /var/lib/dpkg/status05:41
philena500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main05:41
philena05:41
philenanope, not installed05:41
DaSkreechwhat about kdebase-workspace-bin05:43
DaSkreechwhat's the policy on that?05:43
philenadepends on kdeplasma-addons-data (=4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but 4:4.2.1-0ubuntu~intrepid1 is to be installed05:43
philenaI thought I read something about the Plasmoids not being capable with 4.2?05:44
DaSkreechphilena: huh?05:44
DaSkreechThat's what policysays?05:44
DaSkreechfor kdebase-workspace-bin ?05:44
philenaOld Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids.05:45
mefisto__sudo apt-get remove plasmoid-*05:45
DaSkreechphilena: Did you install custom plasmoids in KDE 4.1 ?05:45
philenaKDEtwitter05:45
DaSkreechThat's not the one that ships with KDE ?05:46
DaSkreechyou got it from KDE-apps or something ?05:46
philenaIt was in my widget list.  I dunno05:46
philenaI just added it, I didn't have to go download it05:46
DaSkreechok you are fine then05:46
DaSkreechThey are talking about third party ones from sites05:47
DaSkreechis kdebase-workspace-bin installed ?05:47
philenano05:48
DaSkreechok sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin kdeplasma-addons05:48
beardbaranyone here have a c05:49
philenaunmet dependcies with data05:49
DaSkreechwhich are?05:50
philenaworkspace_bin depends on workspace_data and kdeplasma-addons depends on addons-data05:50
DaSkreechha05:54
DaSkreechbet both of those are 4.2.1 :)05:54
philenayep05:54
DaSkreechsudo apt-get remove kdebase-workspace-data kdeplasma-addons-data && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:55
philena0 upgraded, 115 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded05:57
DaSkreechwhich 2 to remove ?05:58
yao_ziyuanpress ctrl+esc, is there a process "python" whose command line is python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde ?05:58
philenathe kdeplasma_addons_data and the workspace-data05:59
DaSkreechphilena: ah move right along then06:00
philenayao_ziyuan: me?06:01
yao_ziyuanphilena: anyone06:01
yao_ziyuananyway i've just downloaded kubuntu jaunty alpha 6 and will see it in vbox06:02
philenaoh..ok06:02
yao_ziyuani just modified update-notifier-kde to use synaptic update-manager as updater06:02
gohmifuneAnyone run into some bootup weirdness06:02
gohmifune?06:02
gohmifuneI mean lately that is06:03
DaSkreechyao_ziyuan: normally ctrl+Esc pops up the task manager06:06
yao_ziyuanyes06:06
DaSkreechphilena: let me know when that goes through06:06
DaSkreechif you are running krunner06:06
philenak06:06
alesanhi what is a good RSS reader?06:07
alesanmy friends always set up meetings on a forum that has a RSS feed06:08
DaSkreechakregator06:08
DaSkreechit should be installed06:08
DaSkreechthere are about 3-4 RSS plasmoids as well06:08
alesanI use kde3.506:09
gohmifuneakregator is for kde 3.506:09
gohmifuneand 406:09
yao_ziyuanDaSkreech: yes, i'm asking if there is a process in it called python and whose command line is python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde06:09
alesanok I started akregator... now what :)06:09
DaSkreechyao_ziyuan: Ha ok now i understand06:10
DaSkreechalesan: add feed06:10
philenaOh, while waiting, is there a workaround to access Office Live workspace, or am I stuck with Google docs?06:11
DaSkreechwhat does Office Live require?06:12
philenaFirefox or IE running with a Windows OS06:12
DaSkreechrun firefox then06:12
philenaI can only access with my Vista, even with the Firefox browser, it still detected that I wasn't on a Windows OS06:13
DaSkreechphilena: Install the User agent extension06:13
alesantahnks, bye06:15
larrywhhat kind of decoder do i need to make amarok play radio stattions06:16
DaSkreechmp306:16
larrywhere do i get them06:16
DaSkreechinstall libxine1-ffmpeg06:17
yao_ziyuansigh. kubuntu jaunty alpha 6 starts so slowly in vbox06:31
Dr_Willisdemand a refund06:31
yao_ziyuancan anyone tell me in your task manager whether there is a process "python" with command line 'python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde'?06:31
philenawell, slap me with a slimmy fish.. It worked!06:39
mefisto__philena: upgrade done?06:40
DaSkreechCourse it worked :)06:40
philenayes, it's back to where I was06:40
DaSkreechhmm?06:40
DaSkreechx session errors?06:40
mefisto__kde 4.1?06:40
DaSkreechWindows XP ?06:40
philenano.. I mean back before I lose everything and it broke06:41
DaSkreechOh so KDE 4.1 then06:41
DaSkreechX-D06:41
philenaI hope not.  How do I check version again.  top .. no.. or was it ls? I forget.06:42
mefisto__if it's not too detailed, can you fill me in on what was wrong?06:42
DaSkreechkde4-config --version06:43
philenayeah, my versions were not clicking.  But I know I didn't download anything for plasmoid, and I think that KDEtwitter is kinda new right?06:44
DaSkreechIt's replaced with the new one06:44
philenaoh.06:45
HelloWorldmarton:您真来了?您的英语一定非常好。06:46
philenaaudio working now.  But I did get these cpus from Devry and I know they alter sound settings, but I didn't know my audio could split up like that06:47
mefisto__so philena, is it 4.2 now or still 4.1?06:47
philenahow do I check06:47
philena I keep thinking it's top, but that's for local processing06:48
mefisto__help, about kde in a kde4 app, or kded4 --version06:48
DaSkreechkde4-config --version06:48
philenaakonadi console?06:50
philenadfoop06:50
philenaversion 4.2.00 sweet06:52
mefisto__DaSkreech: shouldn't it be 4.2.1? or is that just jaunty?06:53
DaSkreechmefisto__: Main is 4.1.4 Backports is 4.2.0 ppa is 4.2.106:53
mefisto__philena: just curious, were all your plasmoids still in place after upgrading?06:55
philenayep06:56
philenaOh well, I did close twitter though, but that was because it was in the way.06:56
geoblicz06:57
mefisto__philena: well, enjoy! over and out06:58
philenaYes, I'm done for now.  I will try to work on the other little stuff tomorrow.  Thanks so much DaSkreech for stickin with me.06:59
DaSkreechok07:00
DaSkreechgood night07:00
DaSkreech Im' heading to bed as well07:00
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kalphi ppl08:05
kalpi have replaced sources.list with a new one, but synaptec package manager isnt taking the new rep sources. what should i do?08:07
DaSkreechClose Synaptic and reopen08:12
kalpi restarted the comp, even tat didnt help08:12
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DaSkreechWhat is synaptic reading ?08:13
wiggleshi08:13
wigglesanyone got a oneliner for those who have apache installed, and wanna code php/mqsql ?08:13
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install php5-mysql php5 mysql-server08:15
kalpsnaptic is reading older reps08:19
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kalpthose are local on my college network08:19
kalpi am outside college now08:19
k0ppi've got an issue.. this is with Kubuntu only.  when i run KDE for .. freebsd or anything else my sound works fine.  my sound is still working, but its very staticy.  there's always static, even when no music is playing.  what could be causing this?08:19
DaSkreechkalp: Even after a sudo apt-get update ?08:21
kalpits trying to connect to college network08:22
DaSkreechwhere did you put the sources.list ?08:22
kalp"/etc/apt"08:22
druggzi ran apt-get install php5-mysql mysql-client php508:22
druggzand my php files are not being interpreted08:22
george__#protogonoi08:22
DaSkreech!php08:23
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)08:23
DaSkreechpastebin it08:23
kalpmeaning?08:24
DaSkreech!paste08:24
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:24
kalpdeb ftp://ftp.iitb.ac.in/os/ubuntu/archives/ intrepid universe main restricted multiverse08:31
kalpdeb ftp://ftp.iitb.ac.in/os/ubuntu/archives/ intrepid-security universe main restricted multiverse08:31
kalpkalp@kalpkubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update08:31
kalp12% [Connecting to IITB#2007@netmon.iitb.ac.in] [Connecting to IITB#2007@netmon.iitb.ac.in] [Connecting to ftp.iitb.ac.in]^C08:31
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duke_hi08:43
doktorlinuxbuongiorno08:43
duke_can i ask, how to install flash player into konqueror?08:43
doktorlinuxsupporto kubuntu 9.0408:44
leiiitohhola08:49
leiiitohalgun latino por aca08:49
leiiitohmm08:52
duke_anybody have a clue why flash is blank screen under my konqueror?08:56
duke_!flash09:07
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash09:07
duke_anybody have a clue why flash is only blank screen inside my konqueror?09:08
duke_it works good inside firefox09:08
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duke_!microhpone09:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about microhpone09:42
duke_!mic09:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mic09:42
duke_!lan09:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lan09:42
marco_i'm sorry, where can I edit my system sonds?09:57
marco_I don't find it in the menu09:58
jussi01marco_: kmenu - system settings - notifications10:00
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marco_-_-' i've found it10:02
marco_tx10:02
k0ppalright, im trying to get my second monitor working. can anyone spare some time to hold my hand through this10:03
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marco_I've re-installed a windows partition on my pc, how can I re-install grub?10:46
Tm_T!grub | marco_10:47
ubottumarco_: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:47
sorsethi , both zip and jar files are identifying  as zip file in new kubuntu..how can i fix it?10:54
fivetwentysixhmm11:14
fivetwentysixIs there a firefox for KDE?11:15
bazhang!info firefox11:16
ubottufirefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1 (intrepid), package size 67 kB, installed size 124 kB11:16
bazhangyou can use the qt style to make it fit in more nicely, but no separate package11:16
fivetwentysixWhen I do that, it gets really buggy11:17
fivetwentysixOh well, doesnt matter.11:17
ubsafderhello11:18
bazhangwith many extensions? or just that one modification?11:19
kbelabye11:19
ubsafdermy kubunutu connects to the wireless network when I use gnome but not kde .11:19
bazhangubsafder, with knetwork-manager or cli11:20
ubsafderin gnome it connects with network manager applet . under kde i could not something similar configured11:21
bazhangso the gui in kubuntu ?11:21
bazhangis this an encrypted network or open one?11:22
ubsafderwpa11:22
bazhangis the ap associated? check iwconfig11:22
ubsafdercan I get the gnome soft to connect even if i am under kde ?11:23
bazhangubsafder, sure11:23
bazhangubsafder, some others have reported the exact same issue11:23
ubsafderok ok i will log under kde and try11:24
ubsafderthanks11:24
bazhangthread or two on the forums about it (at least)11:24
bazhangnp11:24
bazhanglet me get you a weblink11:24
bazhangoops11:24
kbela!info firefox11:24
ubottufirefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1 (intrepid), package size 67 kB, installed size 124 kB11:24
kbela!info konqueror11:25
ubottukonqueror (source: kdebase): KDE 4's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 (intrepid), package size 1255 kB, installed size 3564 kB11:25
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k0ppanyone use superkaramba in here?  one of the themes i'm using has a CPU temperature monitor, but it wont work.. i know there was a package i needed for it to work last time i used it, i just cant rembmer what.11:40
k0ppdoes anyone know what it was?11:41
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bazhang!info lm-sensors11:42
ubottulm-sensors (source: lm-sensors-3): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:3.0.2-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 121 kB, installed size 564 kB11:42
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franhola11:50
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fran22holas11:51
rehmanhi every on11:57
rehmanhi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?12:03
metbsddoes wubin installation have compiz-fusion and beryl12:03
metbsd?12:03
rehmanhi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?12:05
metbsdif i use wubin to install kubuntu, does it have compiz-fusion and beryl?12:06
rehmanhi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?12:06
metbsdis beryl stable?12:09
sorsethi , when i copy a file to flash memory  , after remove . it begins to write...12:09
bazhangmetbsd, there is no beryl12:09
sorsethow can i fix it?12:10
metbsdhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM&feature=related12:10
metbsdthis is not real?12:10
bazhangmetbsd, compiz-fusion (now compiz) resulted from beryl12:11
metbsdwhat?12:12
metbsdis ubuntu native same as wubi install?12:13
bazhangmetbsd, no12:13
noren!opera12:19
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:19
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norenhi all12:27
rehmanhi noreen12:28
rehmanhi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?12:28
rehmanhi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?12:31
sokarratHi12:32
rehmanhi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?12:34
rehmanplease any linux master here12:35
Dekanslike http://www.google.com ?12:35
FreeMindedhow do you conect to the internet?12:36
metbsddo i have comiz with wubi installation?12:37
rehmani am using kubuntu 7.10,12:37
rehmani connected via wvdial12:37
FreeMindedis the connection up and working?12:38
rehmanit connected and messengers and irc are running but konqueror is not opening any page.12:38
bazhangmetbsd, did you install via wubi?12:38
metbsdyes12:38
bazhangthen install ccsm and see12:38
bazhangoh wait 7.1012:39
metbsdwill it work?12:39
FreeMindedrehman: might be a problem with proxy settings?12:39
FreeMindeddid you change anything there?12:39
Dekanswghat url are you trying rehman ?12:40
rehmanok sir. I changed when it produced problem.12:40
bazhang!ccsm | metbsd12:40
ubottumetbsd: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion12:40
rehmani am trying simle www.google.com12:40
Dekansadd http://12:40
Dekansin the url12:40
Dekansjust in case12:41
rehmanit is written automatically.12:41
bazhangrehman, can you ping www.google.com from the konsole12:41
rehmani went SETTINGS> PROXY> AUTOMATICALLY DETECT SETTINGS but it did not worked.12:41
rehmanhow to ping?12:42
bazhangrehman, open konsole12:42
rehmanok12:42
rehmanopened12:42
bazhangtype: ping www.google.com12:42
rehmantrying12:42
rehmanyes it is running12:43
rehmanone line from console i m pasting12:44
rehman64 bytes from sn-in-f104.google.com (216.239.61.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=1179 m12:44
bazhangrehman, that is good12:44
rehmanall lines are almost simmilar12:44
bazhangrehman, now try to access a different site than google in your browser (ie www.yahoo.com)12:45
rehmanok12:45
rehmanno.12:45
rehmansame result12:46
bazhang404?12:46
rehmanno, simple two lines," An error occurred while loading http://www.yahoo.com:" and12:47
rehman"Could not connect to host http://www.yahoo.com/."12:47
bazhangrehman, are you using a proxy or behind some kind of filter that blocks certain sites?12:47
rehmanno, I am using dialup connection12:48
bazhangodd12:48
bazhangjust timed it out seems12:48
rehmanI have just istalled the kubuntu.12:49
bazhangrehman, are you able to install software and update your computer? or does that time out too12:51
rehmani have not checked.12:51
rehmancould be some thing wrong with resolv.conf12:51
rehman?12:51
bazhangdoubtful12:51
bazhangsudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade12:52
rehmanok12:52
rehmani ran it12:53
rehmanthe end line is " 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded"12:54
bazhangso it is fully up to date then12:55
gohmifuneI'm locked out of graphics mode, and can only get into the command line login screen12:57
gohmifuneanyone can help with this?12:57
rehmanok, thankyou for your time BAZHANG.12:57
bazhangrehman, what about installing packages? does that work as well?12:58
gohmifunehas there been any update weirdness lately?12:59
rehmanwell, I opened the adept Manager. Should i click on Fetch Updates?12:59
bazhangrehman, no need as you just ran those commands13:00
bazhangrehman, you were modifying resolv.conf?13:00
rehmanyes, I modified but with13:01
bazhangrehman, and before modifying it all worked?13:02
rehmanno13:02
rehmanbefore modifying, no page was being opened.13:02
rehmanthen i added two nameservers but with the same result.13:03
bazhangrehman, and all other sites via browser return cannot load page errors but web (irc and other) work?13:03
rehmanbut messengers and irc are funning well.13:03
m0nst3rkill3rhi guys13:04
m0nst3rkill3ri want to install a realvnc13:04
m0nst3rkill3rbut if i install it i become a problem13:04
rehmanyes13:04
m0nst3rkill3rhttp://pastebin.com/m3a0d306a13:04
rehmanbefore modifying, only messengers and irc are running well and no browising13:06
rehmanand after modifying, the result is same.13:07
m0nst3rkill3rcan you help me xD ?13:08
m0nst3rkill3r??13:13
m0nst3rkill3rcan someone help me pls with that problem ?`13:16
norenhi all13:20
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yao_ziyuani want to discuss update-notifier-kde.13:27
yao_ziyuanit "shows tray icon when apt has updates"13:27
yao_ziyuanbut how does apt check for updates periodically?13:27
stdinyao_ziyuan: short answer is that it doesn't check apt directly, for a longer answer ask in #ubuntu-devel13:37
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BluesKaj'Morning13:38
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yao_ziyuanstdin: yeah, i wonder how to set up a mechanism to periodically check apt13:39
stdinyao_ziyuan: by default, "apt-get update" is run daily from cron13:40
yao_ziyuangood!13:41
yao_ziyuanlet me check13:41
stdinupdate-notifier-kde just checks to see if the files there have been changed recently13:41
stdiniirc it's from /etc/cron.daily/apt13:41
yao_ziyuanyou're most helpful!13:41
arthurhello.13:42
arthurim new here13:42
arthurim new to ubuntu and linux just switched to dual boot yesterday.13:43
AvoiDhmm..can someone explain me, how i can setup my keyboard, so that i can make a slash13:43
arthurwhere is the best place to learn13:43
AvoiDyea, me too, arthur13:43
yao_ziyuanstdin: update-notifier-kde has an option: -c, --check-new-packages  Check for updated packages13:43
yao_ziyuanstdin: i wonder, since it is run as a normal user, how does it check for updates with -c?13:44
Genscherhey :)13:45
Genscheranyone else got a black screen (with working mouse cursor) when starting the latest alpha of kubuntu (live cd)?13:46
stdinyao_ziyuan: it'd use kpackagekit I think13:47
yao_ziyuanstdin: no13:48
yao_ziyuanstdin: i already removed kpackagekit and adept, and i can run "update-notifier-kde -c" to show up the tray icon if there are updates13:49
stdinyao_ziyuan: it uses python-apt to check13:50
stdinyao_ziyuan: it doesn't actually check the repositories, just that the current package versions are the latest13:51
stdin*that it knows about13:51
yao_ziyuangood13:51
yao_ziyuanjust like it would do periodically?13:51
stdinupdate-notifier-kde doesn't do periodic checks, it uses a directory watcher so it get's notified when the timestamps in /var/lib/apt/lists/ change13:52
providencehi @ all i have a question about TeamSpeak, does anybody knows this software?#13:58
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AvoiDof course..but i am a noob to linux..so..13:59
yao_ziyuanstdin: good14:00
providence=) i had no linux for over an year... i had to get along with vista... horrible OS X.x14:01
providenceoh btw sry for the bad english...14:01
AvoiDmhh..i think windows is easier to..use than linux..but i want to learn linux..its pretty cool14:01
AvoiDbut..maybe you can tell me how the hell i get my firefox to run..14:02
providencewhats the matter? which problem do you have exactly14:02
AvoiDwell..i just downloaded it into home, documents14:03
AvoiDand..how i can install it no14:03
providencethere is a much better way14:04
providencecan u open the terminal ?14:04
AvoiDyea what now14:04
providencesudo apt-get install firefox14:05
metbsdwubi installation halts at installing system: formatting /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk14:05
metbsdwhat should i do?14:05
AvoiDunable to luck the administation directory, is another process using it14:05
AvoiD..lock the administration14:05
providenceoh do u have the adept manager running?14:06
metbsdme?14:06
metbsdtalking to me?14:06
providence@ AvoiD14:06
AvoiDurgh..yea its running14:06
providence@ AvoiD pls close and try again14:06
providence@metbsd i'm looking for your problem one minute pls14:06
AvoiDokay, its working now, thanks dude14:07
providenceno problem =)14:07
providencemetbsd: listening?14:08
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providencemetbsd???14:09
metbsdprovidence, yes14:09
providenceoh hi ^^14:09
providenceIf the installation fails while formatting the swap virtual disk it means that your drive is excessively fragmented. Uninstall, run jkdefrag on the target drive, then run wubi again.14:09
metbsdoh so i need to deinstall wubi?14:10
providencesadly... yes14:10
metbsdok14:10
metbsdhow many ppl using wubi?14:16
providencei don't even know what this is ^^14:17
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DaSkreech!wubi14:19
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.14:19
providenceooh like an virtual machine?14:19
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DaSkreechprovidence: Something like that14:22
metbsdbut wubi is slower than native ubuntu?14:23
DaSkreechIn thory yes14:24
DaSkreechIn practice not that much14:24
Administrator_DaSkreech, i wonder why14:25
Administrator_but wubi can use beryl too?14:26
Administrator_compzi fusion and stuff14:27
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Avoidedumm..how i can install teamspeak214:30
voriani have a noob question14:31
vorianhow do I set one large wallpaper?14:31
vorianI need it to be 3840x108014:31
voriannot two seperate wallpapers14:31
mantasSveiki yra kas is LT ?14:40
BluesKaj!lt14:41
ubottuŠiame kanale bendraujama anglų kalba. Jei ieškote pagalbos lietuvių kalba, prisijunkite prie #ubuntu-lt kanalo.14:41
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prophezyIcon225!15:01
prophezyhmm how do you search here?15:01
prophezy!icon22515:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about icon22515:01
prophezy:(15:02
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[agatha]hello... i am having an issue with my fstab and mounting a partition... anyone minds taking a look at it???15:12
[agatha]because i am running out of ideas15:12
providence[agatha]: whats your problem in detail?15:13
[agatha]providence:  i have a data partition and when i try to access it always asks me for my password15:13
[agatha]in the fstab options i have defaults, kitsune so afaik it should not ask for a pwd before mounting, just mount15:13
[agatha]but i have no way of figuring out how to avoid that funny prompt15:13
providence[agatha]: that should be the root password, tried this?15:14
[agatha]yes yes it is, i can access it with the root password15:14
[agatha]but i would like not to have to enter it every time i try to access my stuff... once it's mounted it's okay but it was not like that ever before15:15
providencethan you have to set a mount point15:15
[agatha]i will show you the line, moment15:15
noren_agatha: does it ask everytime or only once when u mount it15:15
[agatha]only when i mount it noren_15:16
[agatha]the line looks like this # /dev/sda1     /home/kitsune/stuff       ext3   defaults, kitsune         0    115:16
[agatha]but it does not mount in that path either15:16
[agatha]and i don't know what might be wrong15:16
arrrghhhso i'm trying to figure out why my wifi works great in GNOME, but no networks are detected in KDE.  ever since i updated to kde4, wifi has been broken.  it used to "just work" even on the livecd with kde3...15:17
[agatha]arrrghhh:  try right click new connection wlan015:17
[agatha]there should detect the networks around??15:17
arrrghhh[agatha], yea, says "no connections present"15:17
noren_/home/kitsune/stuff << u need to have this directory available15:17
arrrghhhi'm in gnome right now, wifi works great15:17
[agatha]hmm it is noren_ i created it specifically for this, but won't mount15:17
arrrghhh[agatha], and why do you have defaults, kitsune - that kitsune seems extraneous15:18
noren_!mount15:18
[agatha]kitsune is my username for the pc15:18
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter15:18
arrrghhhcan you mount it outside of fstab?15:18
[agatha]so if i set defaults, kitsune should give ownership to my username15:18
arrrghhhlike from the cli15:18
arrrghhh[agatha], are you sure...?15:18
[agatha]it mounts in an out arrrghhh just prompts me for the root password and i dont want that15:18
arrrghhhhrm15:19
arrrghhhi think you need permissions set on that folder15:19
[agatha]hmm arrrghhh i am not really sure but it worked fine like that while using lenny15:19
arrrghhhlenny != ubuntu15:19
[agatha]i am not very skilled with fstab15:19
[agatha]i know i know arrrghhh15:19
[agatha]just wondering what might be wrong now15:19
arrrghhhi think you need to set the permissions for the folder15:19
arrrghhhgroup permissions and rights15:19
noren_!fstab15:20
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions15:20
arrrghhhcuz i don't tell who should own what in fstab.15:20
[agatha]ahaaaaaaaaaa15:20
[agatha]chown15:20
[agatha]jesus thanks guys15:20
arrrghhhyessir15:20
[agatha]you're a bunch of life savers15:20
arrrghhhi do what i can15:20
arrrghhhnow if i could figure out why gnome works my wifi perfectly and kde4.1 or 4.2 don't...15:21
[agatha]i just need to remember everything all the time15:21
[agatha]hmmm15:21
arrrghhhthat's right.15:21
gohmifunehey guys, what's the best alternate window manager in the repos?15:21
[agatha]maybe i can help arrrghhh... i use wireless too... and i've had a few issues with it myself :D15:21
arrrghhhgohmifune, xfce, gnome and kde are the "main" wms.15:21
[agatha]just let me chown the thing15:21
arrrghhhnp15:21
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arrrghhhiwconfig works in kde, but i don't want to have to setup my wifi by hand.  when i iwconfig in gnome when i'm connected, it reports everything just fine.  in kde, it lists eth1 as having wireless extensions, but kde doesn't seem to want to manage it.15:23
gohmifunearrrghhh: yeah, but I was thinking like iceWM or flux or something. KDE crapped out on me, I like the idea of having a secondary like SUSe does15:23
[agatha]which wireless chipset you have arrrghhh?//15:23
arrrghhhgohmifune, i think those are in the repo's but i'm not sure15:23
arrrghhh[agatha], 2200 intel15:23
arrrghhhlike i said, livecd + kde3 - works perfectly.15:23
arrrghhhso something changed in kde4 (duh)15:23
[agatha]hmmm i also have intel and i haven'thad issues...15:24
arrrghhhipw220015:24
[agatha]let's ask uncle google :) sec15:24
arrrghhhlol15:24
[agatha]hey sometimes it works hehe15:24
arrrghhhi've poked around, just confuses me.15:24
arrrghhhoh i'm a huge advocate of the "google is your friend" program15:25
[agatha]hmm jesus i had the same issue when i tried debian and kde4... i just cannot remember all the bunch of commands i typed to fix it15:25
[agatha]but there was a way15:25
[agatha]im hopeless15:25
arrrghhhlol15:26
arrrghhhlike i said, i can set it up by hand with iwconfig15:27
[agatha]hmmm but it wasnt needed15:27
arrrghhhbut i'd much rather kde manage it.15:27
[agatha]there was a command to check the wireless signal and the noise and so on15:27
arrrghhhsometimes i miss the rock that is kde3.15:27
[agatha]but i cant remember15:27
[agatha]hm kde4 works all fine for me... i swap from gnome15:27
arrrghhhiwconfig15:28
arrrghhhyea i'm not a fan of gnome.15:28
arrrghhhbut it works, so i'm stuck with it for now, lol15:28
[agatha]no  me neither... i rather like better kde15:28
[agatha]hmm try with iwconfig and check if the wireless is at least running... maybe your knowledge and my hints... and we will manage15:29
[agatha];d15:29
[agatha](i know i am so helpful)15:29
JontheEchidnaYou could run the gnome network applet in KDE15:29
JontheEchidnanm-applet15:29
arrrghhhJontheEchidna, yea i thought about that...15:29
[agatha]it was some setting in a file similar to network.conf15:30
[agatha]something like that15:30
arrrghhhhrm15:30
arrrghhhiwconfig says the wireless extensions are enabled for eth1 in kde15:31
arrrghhhbut when i'm in gnome (and connected to a network) it shows me more info (obviously)15:31
arrrghhhbut this could get difficult as i can't get internet in kde lol15:31
arrrghhhi may just run nm-applet just to get by15:31
[agatha]worth a try15:32
arrrghhhi don't know how i'm going to troubleshoot it tho lol15:32
[agatha]i just cannot tell you anything further... i am really far of effective help... just things i remember here and there sorry15:33
arrrghhhlol15:33
arrrghhhwere the 70's good to you?15:33
[agatha]i wasn't even born -.-15:33
arrrghhhlol15:34
[agatha]^^15:34
[agatha]but the late 90's were great ;)15:34
arrrghhhwell then some sort of time period where a lot of people were doing drugs15:34
[agatha]nah my memory is just selective i will never forget a nice dress in a shop or a cute guy's name15:35
[agatha]but... for computers... 10 minutes and it's out ;)15:35
arrrghhhwow a girl that uses linux?15:35
arrrghhhimpressive15:35
[agatha]hymmm why :>15:35
BluesKajwell, the rumour mill is at work again ...Google Linux ,is on the horizon15:35
[agatha]just a second... 3 minutes to the end of the match where my favourite team is winning...i need to focus on the tv for a while ;)15:36
arrrghhhnot may girls use linux on their own... kinda a niche thing.  i know girls that use linux, but they didn't set it up lol15:36
[agatha]lol i did setup my ubuntu first time, then my debian etch, then my debian lenny and then i am back to kubuntu to see what's going on ;)15:37
[agatha]just a lot of free time you know ;)15:37
arrrghhhlol i guess15:38
noren_which match15:38
[agatha]i dunno if everything works in my lappy then it's boring so i need to dig and try new things15:38
[agatha]gornik zabrze - lech poznan15:38
[agatha]just polish soccer league15:39
arrrghhhwow, sounds like me15:39
[agatha]nothing great but i like gornik :D15:39
arrrghhhmy gf can't stand it lol15:39
[agatha]ahahah that's why you share pc probably... my pc is untouchable15:39
[agatha]my boyfriend has troubles to browse the web on it the poor thing :p15:39
arrrghhhlol15:40
arrrghhhwell i have a lot of computers15:40
arrrghhhand my gf has her own lappy15:40
arrrghhhbut she wants me to install linux on it.15:40
[agatha]heheh you need to make her believe she can do it herself ;) it's fun!!!15:41
arrrghhhshe's not a nerd in the computer sense.15:42
[agatha]hmmm you think i was? i barely could find the start button in windows a year ago hehehhe15:42
arrrghhhwell that's just a lot of time and a healthy desire to learn.  my gf is happy being an end-user, doesn't really care so long as it works.15:43
[agatha]yeah that's a point15:43
justin__hey do you guys know where i can find a good source list?15:46
arrrghhhjustin__, of what?15:46
justin__i've only been using kubuntu for a couple of days, so i souldn't be real sure15:46
justin__couldn't15:47
justin__i don't really care, though15:47
arrrghhhuh you want the source to ubuntu?15:47
arrrghhhor kde?15:47
justin__bug fixes, updates15:47
arrrghhhor openoffice?15:47
arrrghhhwhat?15:47
[agatha]i think he wants repositories?15:47
arrrghhhthe source of the bug fixes?15:47
arrrghhhit sounds like you don't want source code15:47
justin__ya repositories15:47
arrrghhhunless you understand C15:47
justin__ya that's what i mean15:47
justin__sorry15:47
[agatha]no problem justin__15:47
[agatha]but you should do fine with the default ones... i think15:48
arrrghhhjustin__, the defaults should give you all bugfixes and updates.  now if you want media stuff, you need the medibuntu repos.15:48
arrrghhh!medibuntu15:48
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org15:48
noren_!ati15:50
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:50
justin__ya i know i've got obsolete drivers, but it's not telling me15:50
justin__i've got the nvidia 177 drivers i think15:50
justin__10 is the latest though15:50
justin__180*15:50
justin__how do i fix that?15:51
stefodnbHi15:51
stefodnbI'm trying to connect my Nokia 3210 to my Kubuntu 8.0415:51
stefodnbusing kbluetooth, my device (phone) is not found for pairing...15:51
arrrghhhjustin__, i think 177 is the latest _linux_ drivers.  i could be wrong tho.  it really depends on your card.15:52
stefodnband when searching for the PC from within the phone, it is not found either.15:52
stefodnbThe bluetooth dongle is connected to the pc correctly. Any ideas?15:52
noren_stefodnb: check if the deviccce are set to be discoverable15:52
stefodnbnoren_: Yes it is.15:52
stefodnb(Er and it's actually a Nokia 3120)15:53
noren_model dosnt matter u are trying to pair ur cell to laptop i guess15:54
stefodnbNo, to a desktop PC15:54
noren_or desktop just check again i guess the fault is with the mobile or the desktop system see if there the bluetooth  is turned on and discoverable15:55
stefodnbI don't think it's a problem with the PC, because I just tried connecting to a coworker's phone and it worked all right.15:56
stefodnbActually, it works now. I had a stupid mistake with the hostnames, thanks :)15:58
justin__what is medibuntu?15:58
justin__i'm looking at it here, but it doesn't really explain what it is..15:59
arrrghhhjustin__, did you read what it said?  did you go to that site?15:59
arrrghhh!medibuntu16:00
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org16:00
arrrghhhthat explains what it is...16:00
afreqhello16:01
jfialahello all i need some help with Emacs is anyone out there who is good with Emacs and could help me16:01
arrrghhhjfiala, emacs unfortunately has nothing to do with kubuntu.16:01
noren_!hello | jfiala16:02
ubottujfiala: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:02
antonio__tony16:02
jfialais there anywhere there anyone who could help me with it though? I am new to both kubuntu and everything but I need emacs for a class i am taking is there somewhere else i could go for help with emacs?16:03
arrrghhhjfiala, i don't know if there's a room for emacs...16:03
arrrghhhbut this is for kubuntu.16:03
BluesKajjfiala, how about #emacs16:04
sourcemakerwhat is the best application to download music podcasts?16:04
jfialai just tried #emacs and it did not work it said unknown command16:04
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noren_!best | sourcemaker16:05
ubottusourcemaker: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:05
[agatha]jfiala: i use amarok16:05
[agatha]but that's up to what you like16:05
arrrghhhjfiala, have you ever used irc?16:05
jfialano I am new to this all16:05
BluesKajjfiala, in the irc  server textbox type  /join #emacs16:05
arrrghhhjfiala, GOOGLE!!!16:06
arrrghhhseriously google will help with emacs16:06
Guest13216hi i install amarok 2.0.1.1 but i cant't listen to my mp3 what can i do?16:06
arrrghhhbeginners should NOT come into irc chats asking for help with EVERYTHING.  it's annoying, and you probably will just end up getting flamed.16:06
jfialaalright thank you16:06
arrrghhhGuest13216, do you have the codec?16:06
[agatha]install the codecs most likely Guest1321616:07
arrrghhhubuntu is not shipped with any proprietary codecs16:07
BluesKajarrrghhh , maybe a bit more patience is required16:07
[agatha]i think gstreamer (all the packages you can find) should do16:07
arrrghhhBluesKaj, seriously?  when there's a ton of guides just waiting to be read?16:07
arrrghhh[agatha], no.16:08
noren_!avi | Guest1321616:08
ubottuGuest13216: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats16:08
[agatha]well works for me arrrghhh16:08
arrrghhhGuest13216, add the medibuntu repo, and install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" - give you everything you need.16:08
arrrghhh!medibuntu16:08
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org16:08
BluesKajarrrghhh, even noobs especially don't know where to look most of the time16:08
arrrghhh[agatha], that meta-package has everything and more.16:08
arrrghhhBluesKaj, google?16:08
noren_[agatha]: u dont need gstreamer in kde16:08
arrrghhhif you google "emacs, how-to" i bet a TON of pages come up.16:09
[agatha]mmm noren_ i need it for listening to a online radio... but that's another story16:09
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noren_[agatha]: dont u use amarok for that16:09
[agatha]nope noren_ i have never been able to find a way since it's not a playlist, just a website with an embedded player16:10
BluesKajgoogle sucks , unless one really knows how to search on it ...IMO google is becoming less relavent lately ..I find google frustrating to use lately16:10
[agatha]need totem and gstreamer to make it work,.. havent been able to make it work otherwise16:10
noren_BluesKaj; i agree it more often spit more garbage then knowledgeble material16:11
[agatha]but as i said that's another story16:11
arrrghhhBluesKaj, all search engines are frustrating since they search for everything within the page... but if you know how to use it, it's an extremely useful tool.  much more so than irc.  i come here when i can't figure out how to do something complex.  google usually helps with the rest.16:11
[agatha]arrrghhh:  you are assuming that people has a computer's knowledge from the begining...16:11
arrrghhhyou don't need computer knowledge to search google.  sure it helps, but there's sites that even show you tricks on how to make the best of your google searches16:12
[agatha]i remember when i first joined a help channel, asked about how to deal with my partitions and someone said, man fstab16:12
[agatha]then i did and i thought OK but understood nothing at all16:12
[agatha]no but you need some knowledge to start and know what's good or what is not i think16:12
[agatha]but that's just my opinion16:12
arrrghhhsometimes man pages can be frustrating themselves.  some are helpful.16:13
[agatha]i havent found a single one which i've been able to understand (sic iptables)16:13
arrrghhhGOOGLE is good.  all hail GOOGLE lol.16:13
[agatha]hahah it is arrrghhh but not absolutely :)16:13
arrrghhh[agatha], well you're obviously smarter than i.16:13
[agatha]i don't think it's about being smart.16:13
arrrghhhi don't know how many times i've read the rsync man page...16:14
[agatha]hmm i just said i have not understood any of them at all yet :p16:14
noren_[agatha] arrrghhh: i come here because u usually find someone who had already had that prob and direct you to the right direction16:14
arrrghhhnoren_, ditto, but i always search before i come in.16:15
[agatha]yeah noren_ but i think sometimes is even hard to understand what the right direction means (at least on my side)16:15
arrrghhh[agatha], i misread your statement lol16:15
[agatha]heheheh16:15
[agatha]maybe it was messed up16:15
arrrghhhno, i re-read it.16:16
arrrghhhit's fine, i'm messed up lol16:16
noren_well different opinionn but for surely toward a common goal16:16
sourcemakercan I download podcast with kget?16:16
[agatha]never tried sourcemaker... i'd rather use amarok, but as for kget i cannot tell yes or no16:16
noren_sourcemaker : depends if its available in the some audio formet and file16:19
sourcemaker[agatha]: now I have added the podcast url to amarok... but there is no download menu16:21
[agatha]hmmm sec i will screenshot something and send you16:21
[agatha]give me a minute16:21
noren_sourcemaker : use add stream in the amarok and it will update automatially16:22
[agatha]sourcemaker:  http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9602/podcast.png16:23
[agatha]if you see the folder "podcast" just below is the name of the podcast you added... if it does not update automatically right click and 'search for updates'16:24
[agatha]but it should be there16:24
sourcemaker[agatha]: it's in the list... but I can not download16:30
[agatha]hmmm tried right clicking on it and searching for updates?16:30
[agatha]it may be there, just collapsed... isnt there a + sign?16:30
k0ppohai puddle16:30
puddleohai16:30
k0pppuddle, have you booted into kubuntu yet16:30
sourcemaker[agatha]: I leave amarok now... after restarting amarok it can download now... but that's not the way I like to download big files :-)16:30
[agatha]heheh depends on how big... the ones i download are up to 1h of audio so not really huge16:30
puddlenope16:30
sourcemaker[agatha]: there is only a simple message: downloading... not more... and I think I can't resume that download after reboot16:30
k0pppuddle, why not16:30
puddleits installed16:30
puddleim on ISO16:30
puddleWhat next :D ?16:30
k0ppwhat16:30
k0pp?16:30
[agatha]dont think so sourcemaker... never used it to pick big files16:30
k0pppuddle, you are on windows yes16:31
puddleyes16:31
k0ppreboot16:31
k0ppinto kubuntu16:31
puddlehow?16:31
sourcemaker[agatha]: damm... it's the same eith gpodder.. resume not possible :-)16:31
k0ppreboot16:31
k0ppselect kubuntu when it asks windows or kubuntu16:31
[agatha]and the same with rythmbox (that's for gnome but also deals with podcasts)16:31
puddleok16:31
noren_!podcaast | sourcemaker16:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about podcaast16:32
noren_!podcast | sourcemaker16:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about podcast16:32
noren_puddle: first time llinux (Kubuntu) ??16:34
sourcemakernoren_: it's working right now...16:34
noren_sourcemaker : ok16:34
beardbaranyone have skype working on amd64 jaunty?16:34
arrrghhhdid we ensure puddle's bios was set to boot from cd?  lol.16:34
noren_beardbar : #ubuntu+116:35
beardbarjoin #ubuntu+116:36
sourcemakernoren_: wget + copy past the links in kget :-)16:36
noren_sure i think its better option !!  sometime amarok stalls in between and dont reconnect16:37
k0ppubuntu_, i assume you're puddle?16:37
puddleOk i didnt see the option to run ubuntu :(16:38
arrrghhhpuddle, you need to check your BIOS.  it needs to be set to boot from cd.16:38
k0pppuddle, ubuntu_ wasn't you?16:39
k0pp;/16:39
k0pppuddle, it didnt have you select the OS to boot?16:39
puddleno16:39
k0pp;/16:40
k0pppuddle, make an investment in some blank CD-R's16:40
puddleok i think i've fixed it16:41
k0pphow so16:41
justin__man wth16:42
justin__is there any way i can just clock like one or 2 things and be done with medibuntu?16:42
justin__click*16:43
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k0pppuddle, ?16:46
puddleyes16:46
k0ppwhat was the issue16:46
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puddlealright k0pp16:47
puddleth main thing16:47
puddleis i have ubunu on my system yes?16:47
puddleI'm going to get some blank cds16:47
k0ppi dont nkow, you tell me16:47
k0ppthat sounds like a good idea16:47
k0pp;)16:47
puddleWait16:48
puddleonce i've got cds. Do i have to download it all again?16:48
k0ppno16:48
justin__how do i upgrade my kde from 3.5.10 to the newest?16:48
puddleor just burn it from power osi?16:48
k0ppyep16:48
k0pp:)16:48
puddle:)16:49
puddleok cool16:49
[agatha]justin__:  wht would you like exactly to have from medibuntu?16:49
k0ppjustin__, eeeek @ kde4 :(16:49
puddlethanks a lot k0pp see you around mate thanks for your time.16:49
k0pppersonal opinion16:49
k0ppgoodbye16:49
justin__i thought it would all come as a package16:49
puddleguys look after k0pp awesome guy16:49
justin__i got skype installed16:49
k0pp@_@16:49
justin__i'd like google earth but couldn't figre that out16:49
k0ppapparently i have a fan.16:49
[agatha]nice16:50
k0ppjustin__ doesnt it come in a .deb?16:50
[agatha]i think it's techno time... trying to  explane my neighbour why his heavy metal is annoying16:50
justin__ya but it fails when i try to install GE 4.316:50
k0ppwhat's the error message?16:50
arrrghhhjustin__, it's a repo.  i'd recommend the kubuntu-restricted-extras for codecs, flash, java, etc.16:50
justin__1 sec16:50
k0ppyes.  listen to arrrghhh. ;p16:51
arrrghhhgoogle earth comes as a BIN file as i recall... must launch from cli.16:51
k0ppaahh16:51
k0ppthe only time i had it working a year or so ago, i thought it was in a .deb16:51
justin__it says it failed to install and there were erroros while processing the deb16:51
justin__and it says a bunch of unknown media types16:52
ActionParsnipyo yo yo16:52
k0pp[10:50] <arrrghhh> justin__, it's a repo.  i'd recommend the kubuntu-restricted-extras for codecs, flash, java, etc.16:52
k0ppmight help16:52
ActionParsnipjustin__: if you canpastebin the command and the errors it wil help16:53
ActionParsnip!paste16:53
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:53
arrrghhhlast i installed google earth it was a BIN file.  just ./*.bin from cli.  should even launch a gui window that shows how the install is going.16:53
justin__i have the restricted extras installed too16:53
justin__version 2516:53
justin__nut ok16:53
justin__but ok16:53
arrrghhhjustin__, what is the problem?16:53
justin__(Reading database ... 120452 files and directories currently installed.)16:55
justin__Unpacking googleearth-4.3 (from .../googleearth-4.3_4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3_amd64.deb) ...16:55
justin__googleearth-eula could not be presented16:55
justin__try 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' to select a frontend other than noninteractive16:55
justin__dpkg: error processing /home/justin/Desktop/googleearth-4.3_4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3_amd64.deb (--install):16:55
justin__ subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 216:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'all/all'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'fonts/package'16:55
justin__Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'16:55
justin__Errors were encountered while processing:16:55
justin__ /home/justin/Desktop/googleearth-4.3_4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3_amd64.deb16:55
justin__that's what it says16:55
arrrghhhjustin__, please dl google earth DIRECTLY from google.16:56
ActionParsnipjustin__: use pastebin, thats why ubotu gave the link16:56
arrrghhhearth.google.com16:56
ActionParsnipjustin__: sudo apt-get install googleearth16:57
arrrghhhi wouldn't install earth from any repo.16:57
ActionParsnip!info googleearth-4.316:57
arrrghhhbut that's me.16:57
ubottuPackage googleearth-4.3 does not exist in intrepid16:57
ActionParsnip!info googleearth16:57
ubottuPackage googleearth does not exist in intrepid16:57
arrrghhhActionParsnip is proving my point lol16:57
arrrghhhearth.google.com, get it from the SOURCE.16:58
arrrghhhthey're up to 5.0 on their site16:58
ActionParsniparrrghhh: well why not get new kernels from www.kernel.org16:58
ActionParsniparrrghhh: i'm sure you use kernels in debs16:58
ActionParsniparrrghhh: www.kernel.org is the SOURCE16:59
arrrghhhActionParsnip, depends on the package16:59
arrrghhhkernel, i get from repos16:59
arrrghhhOOo, from the source16:59
arrrghhhfirefox, repos16:59
arrrghhhdepends on the package.16:59
ActionParsniparrrghhh: why not use the source then? same mindset16:59
arrrghhhmost stuff i get from the repos, but some is just not good to get from the repos.16:59
arrrghhhActionParsnip, it depends on the package.16:59
justin__ok i'm downloading the bin from google earth16:59
justin__what do i do with it?16:59
ActionParsnipi'd use packaged googleearth as it makes uninstallation easier17:00
BluesKajI'm running google earth as root cuz the new version won't run directly from the desktop or Kmenu on my setup... I guess cuz it's a beta release17:00
arrrghhhActionParsnip, whatever.  i'm out.  i can't argue about this anymore.17:00
arrrghhhtime to go snowmobiling!17:00
BluesKajuse run command and enter kdesudo googleearth17:01
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: did you run the installer as user or root?17:01
justin__ok so i downloaded googleearth-linux-plus-4.3.7284.3916.bin from google, what do i do with this .bin file?17:02
BluesKajActionParsnip , i guess i used the sudo dpkg -i command17:02
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: if you run the bin as user then users can run it17:03
BluesKajI tried that but the globe won't open, the app opens with no globe or access in the Fly to box17:04
BluesKajprolly cuz of kde4.217:05
BluesKajoops , because of17:06
tuxi_txBluesKaj: are you using desktop effects on ATI?17:07
tuxi_txI do a "sudo googleearth-linux-plus-4.3.7284.3916.bin" to install google earth17:08
ActionParsniptuxi_tx: run it as user so users can run it17:09
tuxi_txactually, normal users have no problem running google earth17:09
tuxi_txthat's an installation binary17:10
BluesKajI don't have problem really I just run from the run command box , that's all17:10
tuxi_txBluesKaj: you aren't getting the globe?17:12
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santtu#ubuntu-suomi17:13
Tm_T!fi | santtu17:14
ubottusanttu: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi17:14
BluesKajtuxi_tx , no globe in the user version , it works only if I'm root17:20
ActionParsniphttp://dreamlinuxforums.org/index.php?topic=3021.017:23
ActionParsniptry: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.config17:24
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StR|Sangrealhello17:35
noren__hello17:38
deniseweirdhello17:39
ActionParsniphello17:40
StR|Sangreal:)17:40
StR|Sangreali wanted to ask if there is a simp way how to download youtube vid and convert to mp317:41
noren__StR|Sangreal: try www.pwnyoutube.com17:45
ActionParsnip!info youtube-dl17:46
ubottuyoutube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2008.03.22-1 (intrepid), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB17:46
deniseweirdis anyone here using OSS4?17:50
deniseweirdi got this error :S17:50
deniseweirdruti@ruti-desktop:~$ sudo soundon17:50
deniseweirdWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.17:50
deniseweirdWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.17:50
deniseweirdWARNING: Error inserting osscore (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/osscore.ko): Invalid module format17:50
deniseweirdFATAL: Error inserting oss_ich (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/oss_ich.ko): Invalid module format17:50
deniseweirdLoading module oss_ich failed - ignored17:50
deniseweirdWARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.17:50
deniseweirdWARNING: Error inserting osscore (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/osscore.ko): Invalid module format17:50
deniseweirdFATAL: Error inserting oss_usb (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/oss_usb.ko): Invalid module format17:50
deniseweirdLoading module oss_usb failed - ignored17:50
deniseweirdif anyone knows a fix please help17:51
ActionParsnipdeniseweird: use pastebin in future17:51
deniseweird(using jaunty btw)17:52
ActionParsnip!jaunty  deniseweird17:52
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:52
ActionParsnip!jaunty | deniseweird17:52
ubottudeniseweird: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.17:52
deniseweirdthanks17:53
StR|Sangrealhi. pls what SW would you recommend me to use for simple video/music format conversion?18:02
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: ffmpeg18:06
ActionParsnipmencoder18:06
StR|Sangrealthanks18:07
nathanleehello18:09
nathanleeanyone here that can help me with a permissions problem editing the apt/sources.list?18:10
DasEi nathanlee: use gksudo18:12
StR|Sangrealpls how can i assign a shortcut to 1. opening the start menu 2. launching konsole?18:13
dougiel)18:15
peacehey without kwin effects can i get transparent pannel on kde4?18:17
DreadKnightwoot! awesome live drawing stream (amsg sry :D ) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/art-of-kasia8818:20
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aguitelhow Schedule Tasks Using Gnome-schedule (A cron & at GUI) in KUbuntu ?18:22
ZehavaMy sound is not working and I can't figure out why.  When I turn the box off I get the shutdown sound, but amarok, youtube, nothing else will produce any sounds.  Looking at Amarok right now it shows that it's playing but no sound from the speakers.  Any suggestions?18:23
Zehavaand I have everything in the mixer turned up to max18:24
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ActionParsnip!sound18:33
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:33
mikehow do i install nvidia x drivers to my system?18:33
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ActionParsnipmike_: quit name changing18:34
mike_sorry18:34
ActionParsnipmike_: what is the outpput of: lspci | grep -i vga18:34
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Guest80919i have no clue18:34
ActionParsnipGuest80919: then run the command in terminal18:35
Guest80919how do i do that?18:35
ActionParsnipGuest80919: i gave you the command on purpose, run terminal, paste the command in18:35
ActionParsnipGuest80919: then copy the output and paste it here (its ok as its a single line)18:35
Guest8091902:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)18:36
ActionParsnipcool18:36
Guest80919thats what i got18:36
Guest80919whats next?18:37
ActionParsnipGuest80919: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177; sudo nvidia-xconfig18:37
Guest80919next?18:38
ActionParsnipGuest80919: press ctrl+alt+backspace18:38
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ActionParsnipGuest80919: login and run gksudo nvidia-xconfig18:38
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Silver_blacKhi all18:43
ravimaddulahi18:43
ravimaddulaany  one18:44
ActionParsniphi18:45
ravimaddulahello18:46
Artie_EphemHi, can someone help me determine why I can't get kgrubeditor to run? Adept shows it as being installed, I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling it, and have also attempted to run it in a terminal, but it can't find the binary as far as I can tell18:47
Dr_Willisuninstall/reinstalling - is 'windows thinking'18:49
ravimaddulahi iam using vm for guest os18:49
Artie_EphemDr_Willis: ha sorry, I've removed and re installed the package18:50
Dr_WillisArtie_Ephem,  thats still thinking in 'windows terms'18:50
Dr_Willisremove/reinstalling stuff rarey does anything18:50
Dr_Willisin theory the reinstall should be identical to the first one18:50
Dr_Willisfrom looking at the files kgrubeditor installs.. i thinkits putting an icon in the control panels somewhere18:51
Dr_Willisi dont see a stand alone binary in synaptic for it18:51
ravimaddulahow to install my .exe file  in my os18:52
Dr_Willisravimaddula,  use wine whatever.exe18:52
ravimaddulai have installed the demon tools but its not showing any thing '...how can i find18:54
Dr_Willisravimaddula,  you mean that ISO mounting software daemmon-tools - used to let you play copy protected games and stuff?18:54
ActionParsnipravimaddula: in VMs you can mount ISOs in the VM setup18:56
kuaeraWow. Kubuntu Jaunty is really coming apart D:18:56
ActionParsnipravimaddula: plus daemontools is full of spyware18:56
Dr_Willisthats the first ive heard that ActionParsnip  :) but ive not used it in years18:56
Dr_WillisI much perfer to find no-cd cracks   for my legally bought games.18:56
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: magicdisk is clean18:56
ActionParsnipbut i dont use windows for anyting outside my work laptop18:57
Dr_Willisdaemontools isone of the worst named programs ive ever seen also :)18:57
Dr_Willishmm.. what is the command to launch the kde4 control-panel thing  - i cant rember18:57
ActionParsnipsystemsettings18:58
kuaeraI cannot access my network:/ or trash:/ locations in Jaunty anymore :(18:58
Dr_Willis!jaunty18:58
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.18:58
kuaeraI know, Dr_Willis. I'm just miffed.18:58
Dr_WillisActionParsnip,  that cant be right!  thers no K in the front of it :)18:58
kuaeraI don't know why they'd suddenly change protocols.18:58
Dr_Willisthey are breaking the kde standards heh.18:58
Artie_EphemDr_Willis: I've looked through all the control panels and don't see it in there. I did have it in 8.04, it installed the icon )but after doing a fresh install of 8.10 here I can't seem to get it to18:58
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: i know, thew me at first18:59
maxbaldwinhey, question18:59
maxbaldwinDoes this look like normal output for k3b?18:59
maxbaldwinespecially where it says /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted (line 13-ish)18:59
maxbaldwinhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/131692/18:59
ravimaddulahow can i access mobile internet using bluetooth lan18:59
maxbaldwinerm, line 18 actually.19:00
Dr_Willisand thers the kgrub editor tool -- Systemsettings -> advanced tab19:00
Dr_Willisnow who was looking for it  i forget19:00
Artie_EphemDr_Willis: dang, fat-fingered that -- I can't remember where it installed the icon, though I'm thinking utilities...19:00
Dr_WillisArtie_Ephem,  :) system settings -> advanced tab.. bottom of the page19:01
Dr_Willisnow IF it works - i dont know19:01
Dr_WillisI manually edit my grub menus19:01
Artie_EphemDr_Willis: oh silly me, yes it is there-- maybe that is where I saw it originally...  :)  many thanks!19:02
Dr_Willishmm that tool DOES have some neat features19:03
Dr_Willisbackup/restore, change colors.. nifty19:03
Artie_EphemDr_Willis: yes, I used it before and it worked great19:03
Dr_Willisof course grub configuration is rather.... simple :) once ya learn how it works19:05
Dr_Willisits shen the system/hardware gets confuseing it gets harder19:05
Dr_Willisdrives jumping around devvice names, ide+sata+usb  and so on...19:06
Artie_Ephemright19:06
Dr_Willisnow a tool like that for the console - that beginner users could use from a live cd to repair a system would be handier19:06
Dr_Willisor did the livecd now have something like that?19:07
Dr_Willisi dont pay much attention to the helper tools these days19:07
Artie_Ephemthat would be awesome19:07
Artie_EphemI don't believe it does, not that I saw anyway19:08
Dr_Willisiver seen some distros with such tools..19:09
tmeixner_is there a way to restart plasma in a running KDE session?19:09
deniseweirdkquitapp plasma19:09
deniseweirdplasma19:09
ravimaddulamy blue tooth is not detecting ...tell  me best tool '19:09
ravimaddulaas iam using usbtype19:10
Dr_Willisis kde4+bluetooth even working at all yet?19:10
Dr_Willisthere were some bugs with it19:10
ravimaddulacan i onfigure PAN19:10
ravimaddulaWITH THAT19:10
tmeixner_thx deniseweird, but it returns g.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"19:11
Dr_WillisI have no idea what you just asked..19:11
deniseweirdohh :S sorry i don't know then19:12
ravimaddulapersonal area network19:12
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tmeixner_np deniseweird, maybe it19:13
tmeixner_'s just this session.19:13
deniseweirdmaybe19:13
deniseweirdtry restarting kde then19:14
unforgivenHi, I have a problem. After installing Amarok2 and scanning my music I have all ID3 tags corrupted... They are shaked!19:24
unforgivenI mean that in ID3 tag Artist I have "Lordi" but realy it's Madonna...19:25
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daniloas19:34
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tmeixnerhi, can you play files on a smb share in amarok on kubuntu 8.10? I'm testing it on 9.04 and it doesn't work.19:42
trappisttmeixner: if you mount the share, amarok shouldn't have any idea that it's not local19:44
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DasEitmeixner: havent tried on jaunty, but I'd mount the smb locally, then you can play them (maybe set the right permission)19:45
DasEi!samba19:45
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.19:45
DasEi!nfs19:45
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.19:45
tmeixnertrappist: that's what I thought too, I can see the files, copy them in Dolphin but I can't play them in amarok.19:46
tmeixnerI just wanted to confirm before filing a bugreport whether this is only a problem on jaunty.19:47
DasEitmeixner: try vlc ?19:47
DasEi!jaunty19:48
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.19:48
tmeixnerDasEi: good idea, let's see how that works.19:49
DasEitmeixner: sudo apt-get install vlc19:49
andrew__hey, big problem with plasma here. it crashes on startup. no idea what to try, i've tried reinstalling, but for some reason aptitude can't do it19:49
cogaCan you help me with installation Skype into Ubuntu 819:50
tmeixnercoga - do you know whether you are on 32 or 64 bit?19:51
coga3219:51
DasEitmeixner: also sudo chown the mount-folder to regular user and check smbconfig (permission)19:51
DasEithoug if you can copy, erm19:52
cogathanks19:52
tmeixnerthen it's easy - just download the .deb archive for ubuntu from skype and save it to your desktop. Then double click it to start the installation.19:52
cogaok .deb archiv, yes19:53
tmeixnercoga: don't doubleclick the file in the download window of your browser, that won't work.19:53
Tm_Troot: are we rooted now?19:53
cogaitˇs my failure in opera browser19:53
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cogaI start from Opera19:53
cogaI test your promise19:53
tmeixnerDasEi: I'm on jaunty so there are still some bugs19:54
cogathanks19:54
DasEitmeixner: is why thought of vlc19:54
DasEiis not a beta19:54
Hancokcan any one tell me a verygood and free ext3 filesystem recovery app to recover my deleted or formated files/data ?19:55
tmeixnerI've been using jaunty 5 days now. Since the alpha 6 it's actually quite usable with occasional crashes.19:55
* DasEi is off for now19:55
Tm_Ttmeixner: and possible dataloss <319:55
weweanybody can help me what to do if, pulseaudio recognize, my soundcard's capture, but it doesn't capture any sound?19:56
joshjtlhi19:56
wewehi19:56
joshjtlanyone know if there is any way i can have opera select the entire address line/and or the search line with a single click instead of with double click?19:56
Tm_Tsocceroos: hi19:56
joshjtlor maybe a way to get a clear address bar button next to the address bar?19:56
tmeixnerI don't have any important data on my laptop, it's all on the network. but what's the story with dataloss Tm_T19:56
Tm_Ttmeixner: it's always possible with alpha software19:56
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Tm_Tand known to happen19:57
weweanybody can help me what to do if, pulseaudio recognize, my soundcard's capture, but it doesn't capture any sound?19:57
tmeixnerok, I know. I thought you were talking about a specific bug.19:57
Hancokcan any one tell me a verygood and free ext3 filesystem recovery app to recover my deleted or formated files/data ?19:58
Tm_Ttmeixner: my point is, don't glorify alpha releases and definately don't recommend one for other users unless you're really sure and ready to make responsibility if and when something happens (;)19:58
tmeixnerTm_T: point taken, so let me get back into ubuntu+1 :-)19:59
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Hancokwindows have many  app for fat32 and ntfs. why not ext3?20:00
doleybHancok: microsoft doesn't like to support ext3, because it helps people switch to linux20:11
vega_Hello.  I need some help getting my USB headset to work.20:36
vega_When I go into the sound manager and do all the tests there, everything works20:37
vega_But when I try to play any sound in any application, it doesn't do anything20:37
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Dr_Willisso the sound manager test sounds work.. but  what other apps dont work?20:43
Dr_Willisdoes the sound come out ofthe normal speakers?20:43
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spectrehi I have ATI graphic card and ubuntu 8.10. I can see fglrx driver here... Not activated... but if I click to activate, it won't do anything... any ideas?20:55
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slow-motionhi20:56
Spectre!fglrx20:56
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:56
joshjtldoes opera have addons?20:58
vega_Hi.  I need to find a way to disable the menu that pops up when you hold alt and right click.  But I have no idea how to do that.  Can someone tell me?20:58
devilsadvocatejoshjtl, not really they have something called widgets, i think, that do some of the stuff addons do20:58
joshjtlthx20:59
sdf2hi21:02
noren__!mencode21:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mencode21:02
sdf2where can i set sound devices inside kde?21:02
noren__!memcode21:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about memcode21:03
sdf2like gnome>system>sound21:03
joshjtldoes anyone know what google chrome uses, qt, gtk?21:03
noren__joshjtl: is it available in linux21:04
joshjtlnoren__:  i know... thats why i asked :/21:04
noren__joshjtl: then it does not matter, use wine21:05
joshjtlnoren__: uh it matters to me...21:05
joshjtland why would you use wine if its available for linux21:05
noren__joshjtl: i thought its not available21:06
joshjtlno it is i'm just asking if it uses gtk or qt because i want to know21:06
doleybjoshjtl: i don't think chrome uses any gui toolkit.21:08
joshjtldoleyb: it has to21:08
doleybjoshjtl: why would it have to?21:09
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sixofour.21:12
sixofouri have to register with nickserv to speak in #ubuntu ?21:12
Dr_Willisproberly have to register/identify - yes21:12
sixofourugh that is gay21:13
sixofoursince when?21:13
Dr_Willisno idea. and  always have identified/regiesterd21:13
Dr_Willisso whatever..21:13
Dr_Willis:)21:13
Dr_Willisdo it or not.21:13
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noren__sixofour: so that no other 604 can take ur name21:15
sixofouri know the value of identify21:15
sixofouri don't know why it became mandatory over night21:15
AlphonseHi everyone!!21:16
noren__sixofour: did u had to identify becausse i didnt today21:17
Alphonsehelp needed here... I got the error 21 while loading Grub, it means that I`ve lost all my info in my HDD??21:17
sixofouri'm not even registered21:17
sixofour...or am i?!?!21:18
shaneyes, it is gone21:18
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Alphonsereally??21:18
sixofournope, not regiostered21:18
s0leno, im sorry.21:18
s0le:)21:18
Alphonseis tere anyway to restore it, or should be a full reinstall?21:18
Alphonsethere* (sorry)21:18
s0lehave you tried booting from the install cd?21:19
s0lethere is a fix broken os button option i think21:19
s0lealphonse21:19
sixofourso i got a .tar.bz2 how do i use it?21:19
Alphonseyep, it  recognizes the partition, but that all...21:19
s0lelook and see if there is a reinstall or repair option?21:20
AlphonseI mean: I not sure about how to mount the grub again,21:20
s0leim pretty sure there is21:20
Alphonseyes, I was reading about it. but I havent found the way, yet...21:20
AlphonseI read that going again for "installation" without formatting thep artition is an option...21:21
s0lehere is a relevant article alphonse http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#2121:21
Alphonseyou think it will work'21:21
s0leit totally should work21:22
Alphonseokee, let see.21:22
noren__!grub | Alphonse21:22
ubottuAlphonse: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:22
s0lejust like windows, if you dont format, nothing is erased21:22
Alphonsejejje21:22
Alphonsenice to hear that! ;)21:22
s0leewwww   i said the W word...21:22
* s0le flails himself into the pavement21:22
s0leonto even21:22
Alphonsejojo21:23
sixofourso i got a .tar.bz2 how do i use it?21:23
Alphonsedont worry, I almost reinstall that one last noght!! eeeww!!21:23
s0leresist....21:23
Alphonseyeeah!21:24
Alphonselinux all the way!!21:24
s0lemaybe with wine21:24
Alphonseis there any way to use this super grub witout copying to a CD??21:24
s0leprobably if you have a flash drive you could use it instead21:25
Alphonseokee21:25
noren__!opendns21:30
ubottuTo set up OpenDNS in Ubuntu, see https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu21:30
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schisteHi my laptop just shutted down twice without any reasons21:36
schistedo you have any idea of log I could look at ?21:36
schistesyslog doesn't return anything of interest I think21:36
SlimeyPeteyou could check dmesg21:37
ActionParsnipschiste: check in dmesg21:37
SlimeyPeteit might just have overheated, though21:37
ActionParsnipschiste: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxLogFiles21:37
schisteSlimeyPete: crashed on start up :)21:38
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schistethird time21:43
Alphonsethnks a lot s0le and ubottu!! Ill be back when restart get complete...21:43
Alphonsesee ya!!21:43
schiste...21:44
schisteNow I'm really worried21:44
alumno0Hallo. What do I have to install to play an audio CD in Kubuntu 8.04 with amarok?21:44
ActionParsnipalumno0: insert cd, Engage -> play audio cd21:47
alumno0ActionParsnip: When I insert the cd, I'm asked to play with some program. I choose Amarok, but it says thats there's not the needed plugin21:49
slow-motionn821:54
schisteHmmm no one would have any idea where to look to, at least, identify why my laptop is shutting down ?21:55
alumno0Have you look to the system messages?21:56
whtvrhi all21:56
doleybschiste: it was suggested maybe it overheated.  That's most likely if it had been running a while first.  To check that theory, use ksensors21:56
whtvrquick question, how do i remove those arrow emblems from links (shortcuts) in kde 4.2?21:56
schistedoleyb: as I said it shutted down 2minutes after start up21:57
schistealumno0: wich one?21:58
ActionParsnipalumno0: hmm, let me websearch21:58
schiste(seems firefox is the reason why it shutted down)21:59
schiste(I mean it crashed only after I launched FF)21:59
ActionParsnipalumno0: sudo adduser $USER cdrom21:59
ActionParsnipalumno0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+bug/12117722:00
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alumno0I'm going to read the link...22:00
alumno0alumno0 belongs to the admin group.22:00
alumno0and also belongs to cdrom...22:03
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akishello kubuntu world22:06
larrysudo adeptget what ?to unfrezz manager22:08
lutiusveratiushello,I have problem with codecs22:09
lutiusveratiusanyone here?22:09
larrynot sure22:09
BluesKajlutiusveratius, which codecs ?22:09
ActionParsnip!codecs22:10
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:10
lutiusveratiusBluesKaj : for playing music,videos22:10
larrymy adept manager frozes up again22:10
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larrywhats the command22:10
BluesKaj!restricted-codecs22:10
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:10
larryi need tp unlock mt adept manger22:11
larryanyone know the sudo commannd?22:12
p_quarleslarry: what error message are you getting?22:12
ActionParsniplarry: i know it well22:13
BluesKajlarry, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock22:13
larryi was installing a progran from add and remove ,wen it didnt finish rigth and locked it up22:13
lutiusveratiusand I have another question...I've tried to update Amarok,followed instrucitons on their web page,but was not succesful...any advice?22:13
BluesKajthen remove broken dependencies22:13
BluesKaj'sudo dpkg --configure -a'22:14
p_quarleslarry: again, what was the error message? paraphrasing doesn't help22:14
ActionParsnip!fixapt22:14
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:14
lutiusveratiusBluesKaj : do you have some advice about updating amarok?22:15
BluesKajlutiusveratius, which amarok version /22:15
lutiusveratius!amarok22:16
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok22:16
lutiusveratiusBluesKaj : I want to upade it to 2.02 or something like that...22:16
lutiusveratius2.0.222:16
BluesKajyou'll regret it22:16
lutiusveratius?22:17
lutiusveratiuswhy?not stable,or something like that?22:17
BluesKajIMO, it looks fancy but it drops a lot of important info about streams22:17
BluesKajit's ok for playing music files on your HDD22:18
lutiusveratiusI use amarok mostly for streams22:18
ActionParsnipi find amarok 2 a lot bloated22:18
lutiusveratiushm...so,you both think that it's not good idea to upgrade amarok,right?22:19
jordi_hi22:19
jordi_the best web browser for kubuntu 8.10??22:19
BluesKajsame here , there's no bitrate indicator ,  so I dropped back to the kde3.5 version ...I refuse to listen to anything under 128 kbs, and even then it's hard to take sometimes22:20
EagleScreenjordi_ the best is firefox/abrowser I think22:20
BluesKajamarok 1.4 something , I think22:20
jordi_and Opera?22:21
Dr_Willisuse what you like22:21
Dr_WillisI perfer firefox22:21
Dr_WillisOpera is a close 2nd22:21
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jordi_ok22:21
jordi_thx22:21
EagleScreenOpera also is good, but it is not Free Software, and Firefox is the best in my opinion22:22
EagleScreenKonqueror and Arora browsers will work much better in Kubuntu 9.0422:22
ActionParsnipOPera is killer :D22:22
jordi_kubuntu 9.04??22:22
ActionParsnipfirefox bloats way too quickly with multiple tabs22:22
ActionParsnip!jaunty | jordi_22:23
ubottujordi_: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.22:23
EagleScreenKubuntu 9.04 will be released in April22:23
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jordi_ok22:23
ActionParsnipEagleScreen: http://home.comcast.net/~SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html22:23
BluesKajlutiusveratius, there's no advantage using amarok2 , it's still in dev stages , not ready for primetime .22:23
jordi_but firefox sees badly22:23
EagleScreenyou can make firefox to see beauty using package gtk-qt-engine22:24
lutiusveratiusBluesKaj : yeah,I see that...and I'll wait for it22:24
BluesKajlutiusveratius, good :)22:25
lutiusveratiusBluesKaj : I have tried Amarok 2 on Mandrive 2009 few times,was stable there,but too much info displayed was not good for me22:25
ActionParsnipmandriva is badass22:25
jordi_And will not letters meet blurry with it?22:25
lutiusveratiusMandriva*22:25
lutiusveratiusActionParsnip : yup,I didn't liked it22:26
EagleScreenamarok2 will be usable and stable in kubuntu 9.04, but it still has some missing features22:26
ActionParsniplutiusveratius: thats wy there are multiple distros22:27
jordi_ok, thanks all22:28
jordi_bye22:28
CoJaBoWhy is it that Kubuntu seems to install an extension that horribly breaks Firefox?22:36
johnrwwhich extension?22:36
CoJaBoIt was something like Ubuntu extras, forget the exact name.22:37
BluesKajkubuntu-restricted-extras ?22:37
CoJaBoNo, it was a Firefox extension.22:37
alex---buenas22:38
Dr_Willisi dont reecall kubuntu installing ANY firefox extensions.. since it dosent even include firefox22:38
BluesKajwell open FF and look at the extensions installed , and try eliminating them one by one til, it works22:39
johnrwDr_Willis: I was thinking the same thing...22:39
* johnrw firing up the vm and checking22:39
Dr_Willisthere are those extensions one can install system wide.. but i never use those in the package manager22:39
CoJaBoWhen installed via the package manager, it installed the extension along with FF. Disabling the Ubuntu extension fixed it, just was wondering what it was supposed to do?22:40
Dr_Willisubuntu extension - adds a entry or 2 to the help menu i recall22:40
BluesKajonly one i have is called Ubuntu Firefox Modifications22:41
CoJaBoThat sounds like it.22:41
Dr_Willisyep  - thats the only one i got - i looked itup  once. it just tweaks the menus I think22:41
BluesKajanyway BBL ...dinnertime22:41
EagleScreenFirefox extension is in ubufox package, install Firefox without ubufox package and ready22:43
johnrwit seems to have about five extensions in a default install... one to hijaack the $Homepage22:45
johnrwoh christ... those are recommended addons...22:45
astrobear"Install these packages without verification [y/N]?" how can i prevent this message from appearing?22:46
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Dr_Willisi dont see 5 extensions added here... there are some in the repos you can install.22:46
astrobearit's the neon nightly builds22:46
Dr_Willisinstall the gpg key i think astrobear  for that repo22:47
johnrwDr_Willis: what I thought were already installed, turned out to be recommended addons...22:47
astrobearhow? :)22:47
Dr_Willisastrobear,  check the repo homepage/docs i guess..  they may tell ya where they are at22:47
Dr_Willisor the apt-get guides22:48
Dr_Willis!apt22:48
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)22:48
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astrobearthank you22:48
Dr_Willisreccommended is not required. :) the pakcage  manager may be set to install reccomended as well.22:48
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johnrwnah... it was because I have never seen the "recommended addons" UI before... and thought to myself..... what is all this crap???22:49
johnrwnow i know about the new "recommended addons" "feature"22:51
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johnrwok... anyone using the project-neon nightly builds?22:54
CoJaBolol22:54
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shawn_Hi anyone able to get Amarok 2 working with an ipod in intrepid?23:03
knusperfroschhow do i restore my home dir to the default home dir you get on a fresh installation?23:06
Dr_Willisrm /home/whoever23:07
Dr_Williscp /etc/skel /home/whoever   (i think)23:07
Dr_Willisthenchown it all to be owned by the user23:07
Dr_Willisand tehrs not a lot in /etc/skel :)23:07
Dr_Willisso in short.. delete evverything. copy files from /etc/skel23:08
hixhehe23:08
knusperfroschso who created the default folders? kde?23:08
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Dr_Willisyes23:10
Dr_Willisif you just want to reset the kde stuff.. thees the .kde* dirs you can delete23:11
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arrrghhhwell using nm-applet works.  just seems silly.23:25
arrrghhhanyone know how to refresh gtk styles?  i'm trying to get firefox to not look like crap in kde4.23:32
arrrghhhi keep closing and reopening firefox, but the style doesn't change.23:32
arrrghhhuhm23:35
arrrghhhanybody alive?23:35
pelle_kyep23:36
arrrghhhlol ok23:36
arrrghhhgood to know23:36
Dr_Willishmm23:38
hixseems this is loaded at kde start, try restart kde23:39
arrrghhhah23:40
arrrghhhyea i was worried i'd have to restart kde23:40
arrrghhhbummer23:40
arrrghhhthanks, i'll try that.  i wanted to play around with themes, this will make it difficult...23:41
antonio_hello, someone speak french23:56
arrrghhh!fr | antonio_23:57
ubottuantonio_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr23:57
goofeyarrrghhh: beat me to it!  :)23:57
arrrghhhhehe23:57
adsHow can i configure "konsole" to always start with the same height/width? Rignt now it's starting with the last used resolution. Also changing the "advanced" option for this program does not help.23:57
arrrghhhads, well i don't know if you can set it in konsole, but in kde you can set how you want any window to open - you can set it on a per-window basis.23:58

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