[00:00] <Guest61622> quien sabe español o
[00:00] <Guest61622> 	
[00:00] <Guest61622> Spanish
[00:00] <acemoo> !es
[00:00] <tarimari> hi guys
[00:01] <tarimari> how i can write chinese in kubuntu 8.10 / kde 4.2?
[00:01] <Guest61622> 	
[00:01] <Guest61622> who knows Spanish
[00:02] <acemoo> !es | Guest61622
[00:02] <MariaJ_> bazhang, what did installing wicd remove? network-manager? and network-manager-kde ?
[00:03] <bazhang> tarimari, skim/scim
[00:03] <drostie> tarimari: With Cellwriter and a tablet input device, or by using a dual-input keyboard and setting the keyboard preferences in KDE to respect that, methinks.
[00:03] <bazhang> MariaJ_, generally yes it does remove network manager
[00:04] <tarimari> bazhang: i trieed with skim/scim. i installed them but didnt work. i dont know why. do they need any special configuration at some text files?
[00:04] <bazhang> tarimari, unless you are referring to handwritten input then see drostie above
[00:05] <tarimari> no handwritten
[00:05] <tarimari> just pinyin
[00:05] <bazhang> tarimari, yep; global setup
[00:05] <lucio> salve a tutti
[00:05] <bazhang> tarimari, cn? tw? hk or other
[00:05] <bazhang> !it | lucio
[00:06] <tarimari> cn
[00:06] <drostie> tarimari: what happens if you press Alt-F2 and type in scim at the prompt?
[00:06] <bazhang> tarimari, let me try to set mine up (tw here) :)
[00:06] <drostie> Or is that not how scim works?
[00:06] <bazhang> tarimari, this is kubuntu 8.10?
[00:07] <tarimari> yes kubuntu 8.10
[00:07] <tarimari> let's run scim
[00:07] <bazhang> tarimari, let me check
[00:07] <tarimari> SCIM has exited abnormally.
[00:07] <tarimari> i also run skim but no result
[00:07] <Guest61622> quien habla español
[00:07] <bazhang> 你好
[00:08] <p_quarles> Guest61622: for the last time, this is an English language channel; go to #kubuntu-es
[00:08] <bazhang> Guest61622, /j #ubuntu-es
[00:08] <bazhang> oops
[00:08] <Guest61622> 以及良好的和你
[00:09] <bazhang> #kubuntu-es
[00:09] <bazhang> Guest61622, then you will be wanting #ubuntu-cn
[00:11] <Guest18945> me llamo edixon
[00:12] <Guest18945> y tup
[00:12] <tarimari> bazhang: you said "let me check" did u find something?
[00:12] <bazhang> tarimari, yep, all set up here; you need to run the skim setup and have the language support installed
[00:12] <ubuntu_> gnome stuff, will it run on kde?
[00:12] <bazhang> ubuntu_, sure
[00:13] <ubuntu_> nice
[00:13] <tarimari> the skim is written for kde 3.5. does it work with kde 4?
[00:13] <bazhang> tarimari, works here; are you using 4.1 or 4.2? not sure if there are bugs associated with 4.2 or not
[00:13] <ubuntu_> so how much difference for a power user would there be between ubuntu and kbuntu as far as function?
[00:14] <bazhang> ubuntu_, not much; mostly just visual
[00:14] <ubuntu_> bazhang :) you are good to hang in here and answer stupid questions. thanks
[00:14] <ubuntu_> so i have ubuntu desktop on a machine in the garage
[00:14] <Guest18945> yes
[00:14] <bazhang> ubuntu_, this is a much less busy channel; plus maco gets mad if I call !ot here too much
[00:14] <ubuntu_> i like the add/remove software applet
[00:15] <ubuntu_> lol
[00:15] <maco> hahah
[00:15] <bazhang> :(
[00:15] <ubuntu_> does ubuntu server offer the same desktop software in its stock build?
[00:15] <sixofour> what is the package for pyrthon 2.2? need it to install a program
[00:15] <sixofour> for apt-get
[00:15] <ubuntu_> and, are most of them the same for kbuntu?
[00:16] <bazhang> ubuntu_, no; it does include the gui stuff of course (though you can install if you wish)
[00:16] <bazhang> err does not
[00:16] <Guest18945>  what is the package for pyrthon 2.2? need it to install a program
[00:16] <Guest18945>  what is the package for pyrthon 2.2? need it to install a program
[00:16] <bazhang> Guest18945, install what
[00:16] <bazhang> Guest18945, posting once is fine
[00:17] <ubuntu_> i was trying some different distros and love centos for a server i put together at work
[00:17] <sixofour> gust jsut copied what i said bazhang
[00:17] <ubuntu_> but cent doesnt offer much on the desktop for home
[00:17] <sixofour> guest*
[00:17] <sixofour> what is the apt-get package for python 2.2?
[00:17] <bazhang> !give me a test
[00:17] <bazhang> Guest18945, hi
[00:18] <bazhang> sixofour, install what
[00:18] <sixofour> python 2.2
[00:18] <sixofour> i need it
[00:18] <bazhang> to install what
[00:18] <sixofour> programs
[00:18] <bazhang> gl
[00:18] <ubuntu_> bazhang, does kubuntu support wine?
[00:18] <sixofour> lol
[00:19] <Guest18945> this is my number 04268314791
[00:19] <sixofour> do you know the python 2.2 package name or not?
[00:19] <bazhang> ubuntu_, yep of course
[00:19] <ubuntu_> cool
[00:19] <Beardbar1> offish topic: just switched to kubuntu and wanted to know any other web developers favorite ftp client.
[00:19] <bazhang> sixofour, how about providing some more info
[00:19] <sixofour> that is all i have
[00:19] <sixofour> "requiresments: python 2.2"
[00:19] <sixofour> and wxpython 2.6.0
[00:19] <bazhang> sixofour, what exact package requires that
[00:19] <ubuntu_> Beardbar1: filezilla
[00:19] <sixofour> there is no package, its a source coede i will compile
[00:20] <sixofour> code8
[00:20] <bazhang> !info code8
[00:20] <sixofour> code*
[00:20] <sixofour> lol
[00:20] <bazhang> source code of what package?
[00:20] <Beardbar1> ubuntu_: firezilla works on linux, cool
[00:20] <sixofour> ..........
[00:20] <sixofour> never mind
[00:20] <ubuntu_> yes
[00:21] <bazhang> ok
[00:21] <sixofour> i'll ask in ubuntu
[00:21] <bazhang> see you there
[00:21] <Guest18945> this is my number call me 04268314791 Edixon
[00:21] <bazhang> Guest18945, not here
[00:21] <p_quarles> Guest18945: please stop spamming the channel
[00:21] <bazhang> Guest18945, this is kubuntu support NOT chat channel
[00:22] <bazhang> Guest18945, #kubuntu-offtopic for that
[00:22] <p_quarles> I don't think it's wise/okay to give out your telephone number there, either
[00:22] <tarimari> i didnt manage anything with chinese
[00:22] <tarimari> i just installed a ton of programs
[00:23] <bazhang> !info skim
[00:23] <bazhang> tarimari, is skim itself installed?
[00:23] <tarimari> yes
[00:23] <MagicDuck> hi, I prefer the gnome update-notifier instead of the standard adept one kde uses. Is there a way to change it?
[00:23] <tarimari> skim is 3.5, kde is 4.2.
[00:24] <Beardbar1> ubuntu_: i think you told me the other day of a package that installed a lamp so I didnt have to do everything individually
[00:24] <tarimari> apart from skim, i have also installed scim and uim.maybe they fight each other?
[00:24] <bazhang> doubt it
[00:25] <ubuntu_> it's true, there are tons of lamp packages that will do all that preconfigured to run
[00:25] <Beardbar1> ubuntu_: any popular suggestions?
[00:25] <tarimari> bazhang any idea for me?
[00:26] <ubuntu_> im not really sure, let me look at a few i have used and f5 my head..
[00:26] <bazhang> tarimari, how about running scim setup? add to panel then right click 'setup scim'
[00:26] <Beardbar1> ubuntu_: thanks man
[00:27] <tarimari> what you mean to add at panel? which panel?
[00:27] <ubuntu_> Beardbar1: check this out - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)
[00:27] <bazhang> !lamp
[00:27] <tarimari> scim gives me error when i run from cli
[00:27] <ubuntu_> well said ubottu
[00:27] <ubuntu_> did you just make that up?
[00:28] <bazhang> tarimari, what error and why from cli
[00:28] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[00:29] <tarimari> http://pastebin.com/d504425e0
[00:29] <tarimari> because i dont know how to start it from gui
[00:30] <tarimari> bazhang you just use skim? then what settings?
[00:31] <ubuntu_> well hey thanks bazhang. i think ill install this kub.. everything ive tried defaults with gnome, but this seems tighter.
[00:31] <penguin42_> hmm quassel is very pretty, still can't do the seperate window stuff I like in ksirc though
[00:31] <ubuntu_> thanks for the info
[00:31] <root> el_redi@hotmail.com
[00:31] <x_link> Hi!
[00:31] <ubuntu_> good luck Beardbar1
[00:31] <bazhang> tarimari, well I added to the only panel that kde4 has, then ran scim setup to choose the various languages I needed (chinese, japanese etc) and a little keyboard now resides there for easy clicking/changing input methods
[00:32] <x_link> I used to go to a path before where I had some apps-folder + config-folders.
[00:32] <Guest18270> este es mi msn el_redi@hotmail.com
[00:32] <bazhang> ubuntu_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:32] <x_link> i don't remember the path forit anymore =/
[00:32] <tarimari> bazhang i think i chose the difficult way and i messedup
[00:32] <x_link> Are 2 folders I want to go to.
[00:32] <bazhang> Guest18270, please stop
[00:32] <tarimari> bazahg : panel means "system settings" ?
[00:32] <x_link> Something like /usr/share/config and /user/share/apps.
[00:32] <bazhang> tarimari, doubt it. just try again. It took me several times to get it going so dont fret
[00:33] <x_link> I know that it's not /user/share, but I want to to go /apps and /config.
[00:33] <x_link> Anybody understand what I mean?
[00:33] <tarimari> bazhand which is the scim setup for you? language setup?
[00:33] <ubuntu_> bazhang, would that work for plain ubuntu? like does it install kde4 on the regular desktop release of ubuntu?
[00:33] <x_link> Anybody?
[00:33] <bazhang> ubuntu_, well, it does, then you choose which you wish to launch from the login window
[00:33] <ubuntu_> ah nice
[00:34] <ubuntu_> so having kde and gnome both installed hurts nothing?
[00:34] <bazhang> ubuntu_, you can also install lxde, xubuntu-desktop, fluxbox and others and pick and choose which is the best to your liking
[00:34] <mefisto__> x_link: maybe you should tell us what you are trying to achieve?
[00:34] <bazhang> ubuntu_, just messy/overlong menu entries :)
[00:34] <x_link> mefisto__: I want to go to the ktorrent-folder
[00:35] <sixofour> so i have a soruce code in a .jar file, any ideas how to install it?
[00:35] <ubuntu_> cool
[00:35] <x_link> I've been there alot of times, just don't remember the path.
[00:35] <x_link> One should end with /apps and one with /config.
[00:35] <bazhang> sixofour, you find python?
[00:35] <sixofour> apparently i already have it
[00:35] <bazhang> aha
[00:35] <tarimari> i think i will not manage it without screenshots
[00:35] <sixofour> but this is soemthign compeltely unrelated
[00:35] <p_quarles> sixofour: it should come with a readme; .jar == Java archive, but the exact instructions will vary
[00:35] <maco> sixofour: jars just get run, usually
[00:36] <sixofour> i'm trying to install benojt
[00:36] <bazhang> tarimari, let me get you a weblink for that
[00:36] <sixofour> from terminal
[00:36] <maco> java -jar program.jar
[00:36] <sixofour> and i have a .jar file
[00:36] <tarimari> bazhang thanks a lot man. are you chinese?
[00:36] <maco> they dont normally need to be installed separate
[00:36] <bazhang> tarimari, aren't we all?
[00:37] <tarimari> well... :)
[00:37] <maco> sixofour: that was at you
[00:37] <sixofour> er
[00:37] <sixofour> how do i amke a shortcut?
[00:37] <sixofour> for desktop
[00:37] <tarimari> some forums say that kde 4 has problem with skim
[00:37] <p_quarles> sixofour: put the command in the short command field :)
[00:37] <sixofour> don't want to open terminal and type a command every time i use it
[00:38] <tarimari> so you use skim or scim bazhang?
[00:38] <tarimari>  
[00:38] <tarimari>  
[00:38] <sixofour> huh ? what?
[00:38] <tarimari> sorry for the extra lines :S
[00:38] <sixofour> short command field?
[00:38] <p_quarles> sixofour: shortcut command field*
[00:38] <mefisto__> x_link: .kde directory?
[00:38] <sixofour> <---4 day linux user
[00:39] <p_quarles> sixofour: it depends on your setup, but in the place you want the shortcut, you'd need to create it and enter the command maco gave you in the "command" field
[00:40] <bazhang> tarimari, hang on please (patience) :)
[00:44] <josh-l> hey folks, running kubuntu jaunty, i cant connect to my wireless router, i tried booting off 8.10 disk, and was able to connect no problems
[00:45] <tarimari> thanks bazhang. ok i uninstalled  skim. and installed scim.     i have the scim icon at desktop. i can run scim setup
[00:46] <tarimari> i follow http://www.chinese-forums.com/showpost.php?p=165460&postcount=3
[00:46] <tarimari> but im-switch -s scim  gives me error
[00:46] <bazhang> tarimari, great; I was having a heck of a time finding screenshots
[00:47] <tarimari> No system wide default defined just for locale en_US . Use "all_ALL" quasi-locale and set IM. update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim'.
[00:47] <p_quarles> socceroos: hey, could you fix your connection, please?
[00:47] <tarimari> maybe this creates the problem, bazhang?
[00:47] <josh-l> help please
[00:48] <bazhang> tarimari, alt f2 scim-setup
[00:48] <tarimari> ok i m inside there
[00:48] <tarimari> now there are so many options here ;)
[00:49] <bazhang> tarimari, yeah you have to fiddle a bit; iirc a reboot (or at least logout and login ) are necessary to get it going
[00:49] <tarimari> ok i ll do as i did many times in the past. so the error message above, does not matter?
[00:49] <p_quarles> !jaunty | josh-l
[00:49] <bazhang> control and space to open er up
[00:50] <bazhang> tarimari, dont worry about all the commands as the scim-setup seems to function, if not then can troubleshoot at that point
[01:01] <psyco> hey there
[01:01] <psyco> just wondering
[01:01] <psyco> what is the diff between 32bit and 64bit kubuntu
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> 32 bits :)
[01:03] <shane> whats the command to install kubutnu desktop?
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ;)
[01:04] <ubuntu_> thanks :)
[01:04] <philena> The instructions to upgrade to kde 4.2 is not working for me.  I'm trying to do everything in the terminal.  I don't like the file managers
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> clarify what part is not working..
[01:06] <sourcemaker> how can I download podcast?
[01:08] <scroat> hi
[01:08] <psyco> how easy is it to go from ext3 to ext4?
[01:08] <scroat> i would like to install fglrx the ATI way.
[01:08] <psyco> isnt the april ubuntu gonna use ext4?
[01:09] <p_quarles> psyco: not by default, no
[01:09] <philena> after I do the get-apt update, then the desktop-kubuntu, it says the current kubuntu is installed
[01:09] <sourcemaker> isn't ext4 still unstable?
[01:09] <psyco> oh ok
[01:09] <psyco> i saw some benchies and it looked a tad faster
[01:10] <psyco> will i have to reformatt my drive to ext4?
[01:10] <psyco> and lose my files?
[01:10] <philena> Can't I just add to the source list for the KDE 4.2.
[01:10] <sourcemaker> I read a blog about a critical issue with ext4 losing files...
[01:10] <p_quarles> psyco: there are some advantages, but there are also problems with some apps that are expecting to use ext3 features
[01:10] <psyco> yeah i just read that
[01:10] <psyco> hmm
[01:11] <psyco> alright, i guess for now ill hold off on the migration
[01:11] <scroat> anyone install fglrx for a Radeon RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[01:11] <psyco> so 64 bit linux seems to be a tad faster,
[01:11] <psyco> how much more of a hassle is it?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> now a days - ive had very few issues with 64bit
[01:13] <philena> so, I shouldn't upgrade to 4.2?
[01:13] <philena> and wait for the 9.04?
[01:14] <philena> I downloaded the alt iso file.  But I can't burn.  Do I need to change settings for my DVD-rom?
[01:15] <p_quarles> philena: what burning software are you using?
[01:15] <psyco> is it easy to enable 4gb of ram in 32bit?
[01:15] <philena> kd3 was the instruction
[01:16] <scroat> i need fglrx drivers
[01:16] <philena> but right-click on the iso didn't work, so I just tried to open the program.  it did the mdf5 check or whatever, but I can't continue after than
[01:20] <philena> hmm.. something different is on my adept now.  Let me wait til it's finished.  Maybe it was me.  I couldn't get the ppa.launchpad to work yesterday.  All I saw was FAILED. Like the link was broken
[01:21] <mefisto__> scroat: have you tried enabling the driver from menu > system > hardware drivers  ?
[01:21] <philena> are we suppose to still use that deb url?
[01:21] <scroat> mefisto__: is that the best way?
[01:21] <scroat> i'll try that
[01:21] <scroat> mefisto__: i mean, is installing catalyst necessary ?
[01:22] <mefisto__> scroat: catalyst as in the control panel for the driver? no, not necessary at all. I can't see any point to it, actually
[01:22] <scroat> mefisto__: ok i activated the driver.  does is configure xorg.conf for me?
[01:24] <mefisto__> scroat: very minimal change to xorg.conf but you may need to make some changes to it yourself (as I did) to get decent resolutions available
[01:24] <scroat> ok
[01:24] <scroat> i'll reboot.  see what happens thanx.
[01:28] <philena> I didn't know how to delete old plasmoid files.  Sorry, I'm still rather new to Linux, and I have to work in bash just to get started.  So far I only got Ooo3 installed, firefox, have to figure out how to upgrade seamonkey, and now working on KDE
[01:28] <ubuntu_> how does one install the latest xvid and likes codecs?
[01:29] <ubuntu_> NICE ntfs support out of the box :)
[01:29] <ubuntu_> liking this so far
[01:29] <philena> And would someone PLEASE tell me why I can only get sound with SKYPE?
[01:31] <ubuntu_> how many sound cards do you have philena? like is there an onboard (mb) as well as a pci card?
[01:31] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: I think philena is complaining about no video
[01:32] <philena> I dunno.  I don't have computer speakers.  I'm using my USB headsets.
[01:32] <ubuntu_> ah
[01:32] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: or maybe not
[01:32] <ubuntu_> there you go
[01:32] <sourcemaker> which mail provider are you using?
[01:32] <ubuntu_> i bet you have to configure PER APP
[01:32] <ubuntu_> what sound card to use
[01:33] <philena> I tried to change the settings.  Universal.... aww man.. really?
[01:33] <ubuntu_> usb headphones act as thier own sound card in a way
[01:33] <ubuntu_> im not sure where sound settings are in ubutnu, but if you can find that, change it to your usb gizmo as a default and there you are
[01:33] <ubuntu_> finished prolly
[01:34] <ubuntu_> butnu
[01:34] <ubuntu_> lol
[01:34] <ubuntu_> sorry
[01:35] <philena> I think that's what I was trying to do with Kmixer??
[01:36] <mefisto__> philena: look in systemsettings. multimedia or sound ?
[01:36] <ubuntu_> ya, see i have 2 sound cards in this  one
[01:37] <ubuntu_> in kubuntu there is a system settings icon
[01:37] <ubuntu_> i go there and clicked on the sound icon
[01:37] <ubuntu_> i get a device preference dialog
[01:37] <ubuntu_> that's where you want to be
[01:38] <andrew_> hola
[01:38] <ubuntu_> i use 2 becasue one hooks to speakers and the other is phones, that way i can change the default device to listen to phones or speakers without having to mess with wires/plugs
[01:38]  * ubuntu_ thinks about how lazy that sounds
[01:39] <andrew_> somebody know which is the chanell of kubuntu in spanish?
[01:39] <ubuntu_> holy horse crap, 300 meg of updates from a fresh install of kubuntu
[01:40] <mefisto__> ubuntu_: just curious, how do you change default soundcard? from systemsettings?
[01:40] <ubuntu_> yes, in kubuntu it is in the system settings, then there is a Sound icon
[01:41] <ubuntu_> in there it shows you both cards, and has a place to choose default device
[01:41] <philena> I understand.  I want to keep skype on the USB, I'm going to test some headsets that plug in the audio inputs once adept is finish doing whatever it's doing
[01:43] <philena> got 2 2004 e-series cpu from Devry because they are upgrading some computer rooms.  One I have Kubuntu, and the other I want to turn into a NAS.  once I figure all this out
[01:49] <paonline1> i want to conected firefox for kubuntu
[01:50] <mefisto__> paonline1: if you mean you want to install firefox: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:51] <paonline1> thanks
[01:54] <scroat> hi
[01:55] <mefisto__> scroat: how did it go?
[01:55] <scroat> mefisto__: hi so i rebooted.  fglrx is installed. but it doesent play quake wars (i hear sound, but distorted visual).
[01:55] <scroat> here's my info http://rafb.net/p/fsSpwN27.html
[01:55] <scroat> no 3D games  :(
[01:55] <scroat> i see the glxgears...
[01:56] <scroat>  video plays fine on vlc.  why not games? everything else seems to be in place.
[01:59] <mefisto__> scroat: does it work with desktop effects switched off?
[01:59] <scroat> i dont think  i have desktop effects on in the first place.
[01:59] <scroat> this is my card.  RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[01:59] <aye> hi
[02:00] <aye> hey
[02:01] <mefisto__> scroat: you could also try adding these options to your xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/131381/
[02:01] <paonline1> hello
[02:01] <philena> Ok, I'm back
[02:01] <aye> welcome
[02:02] <philena> All of KDE is gone.  I only have the terminal to work with :(
[02:02] <mefisto__> scroat: to turn on/off desktop effects, right-click a window titlebar, configure window behaviour
[02:03] <scroat> mefisto__: yes the checkbox for "Enable Desktop Effects"  is not checked.
[02:03] <aye> "All of KDE is gone", what you mean?
[02:03] <scroat> mefisto__: they outa not be correct ?
[02:04] <philena> I no longer have a GUI I think.
[02:04] <mefisto__> scroat: well it's easier to get things working without desktop effects
[02:04] <aye> i see
[02:04] <scroat> ok ima reboot. see what happens with these new xorg settings.
[02:04] <philena> it says you must manually run "dpkg --configure -a" to correct the problem
[02:06] <mefisto__> philena: did you do that?
[02:07] <philena> well, I thought I was suppose to remove plasmoid and kde-manager because there was a conflict or something
[02:07] <philena> I guess I took too much out
[02:08] <mefisto__> philena: so did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a   ?
[02:09] <philena> ok.. it says idconfig deferred processing now taking place.  Setting up phono-backend-xine
[02:10] <mefisto__> philena: an upgrade or install was interrupted, it seems
[02:10] <philena> right
[02:10] <philena> it said that too
[02:10] <mefisto__> philena: are you upgrading to kde 4.2 or something?
[02:10] <philena> correct
[02:11] <aye> Does anyone know how install a .deb file? 3x
[02:12] <mefisto__> aye: you can double-click it in dolphin or konqueror
[02:12] <mefisto__> aye: or in konsole: sudo dpkg -i <program.deb>
[02:12] <aye> 3x
[02:13] <scroat> mefisto__: sorry, still no image on 3D games.
[02:13] <philena> so, now what do I do?
[02:13] <aye> but if i use the command line, what should i do?
[02:13] <scroat> anyone use a Radeon X12000 series that succefully installed fglrx ?
[02:13] <mefisto__> scroat: did it work before installing fglrx?
[02:13] <scroat> no
[02:14] <mefisto__> scroat: I have the same card as you. looks like the driver is installed correctly
[02:14] <^stig> scroat: mine is radeon xpress x1100, fglrx installed
[02:14] <scroat> mefisto__: do you use a toshiba laptop ?
[02:15] <joshjtl> can I save dolphin window size?
[02:15] <mefisto__> scroat: no, not a laptop
[02:16] <mefisto__> josh-l: right-click dolphin window titlebar, advanced, special application settings
[02:17] <joshjtl> thx mefisto__
[02:19] <philena> Even if I have to do this the old fashion way, just let me know.  I don't know why my install broke
[02:19] <philena> but I can't go farther than the terminal at this point
[02:20] <mefisto__> scroat: btw, you don't need to reboot after changing xorg.conf, just restart X (alt-ctrl-backspace or logout and alt-E)
[02:20] <philena> Is my sourcelist gone too now?
[02:20] <scroat> mefisto__: when i pull a ---> /etc/init.d/kmd restart  ;  it just stays at the terminal
[02:20] <scroat> sometimes
[02:20] <opop> skidoosh.
[02:21] <scroat> mefisto__: can you have a looksee at my xorg.conf file?  http://rafb.net/p/1rfMj530.html
[02:22] <philena> do I have the do the ftp thing in the terminal to get the GUI?
[02:22] <aye> what a slow update of system language configuration!
[02:23] <aye> install X
[02:24] <mefisto__> scroat: looks fine. mine is the same, except I have added some details to the "Monitor" section because my monitor wasn't detected properly
[02:24] <paonline1> how i can download music for amarok
[02:25] <scroat> looks like a job for windows.
[02:26] <scroat> linux garbage.
[02:26] <philena> *sigh* anyone?
[02:26] <joshjtl> other than just changing the plasma theme, can i adjust opacity of the panel?
[02:27] <DaSkreech> !ldap
[02:30] <mefisto__> philena: where are you at now?
[02:31] <philena> I'm still in the terminal wondering how to get kde back in
[02:31] <philena> kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot
[02:32] <scroat> this is my xorg log file.  http://rafb.net/p/T96WND30.html
[02:33] <mefisto__> philena: just to make sure you got all the upgrades done and nothing is missing because of the install interruption: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <scroat> look what elese i found (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported
[02:34] <philena> Oops.. forgot the sudo apt-get upgrade one.  thanks.  it's doing something now
[02:36] <philena> mefisto: Ok.. finished the upgrade one.  What's next
[02:36] <scroat> mefisto__: im running 32Bit kubuntu on a 64bit machine.  how can i make sure im running 32 fglrx?
[02:40] <mefisto__> scroat: not sure, but I doubt it would work at all if it was the wrong driver
[02:40] <scroat> it's the wrong driver?
[02:40] <scroat> this linux crap sucks.
[02:41] <mefisto__> scroat: it's ati you should be complaining about
[02:43] <progmanos> Is there a Strigi applet for KDE 4?
[02:45] <philena> mefisto__do I have to reboot after I did the sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:45] <philena> oops
[02:46] <philena> I'm not good at this IRC stuff
[02:46] <mefisto__> philena: either reboot, or try startx
[02:48] <philena> Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/user/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no termail emulators found; aborting
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> thats hard core
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> make a .xsession file that runs somthing?
[02:50] <philena> Oh sure.  No problem.. I make .xsession files all day.  Piece of cake... What?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> 2 lines in thefile
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> xterm &
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> exec WINDOWMAAGER
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> use what wm you want.
[02:50] <mefisto__> philena: did you do  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    to make sure nothing is missing because of the upgrade interruption?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> but its weird thst the thing broke that badly
[02:50] <larry> i need the sudo command to unlock adept manager
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> unless you got 'Xsession' selected in the kdm login options
[02:51] <mefisto__> larry: kdesudo
[02:52] <philena> Recommends: (a whole lotta apps) but it is not going to be installed E: broken packages
[02:53] <larry> kdesudo didnt work
[02:53] <larry> i was trying to update
[02:54] <mefisto__> larry: kdesudo adept manager
[02:54] <larry> ill try that
[02:54] <mefisto__> larry: or you could just   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <philena> I have no idea why it broke. Everything was running just fine.
[02:54] <sourcemaker> how can I save my public and private pgp key in asc file?
[02:55] <mefisto__> larry: adept should ask for your password if you start it from the menu
[02:55] <philena> I was in this chat while it was going.  Now I'm on my laptop trying to get it back up
[02:56] <achem> hey guys whats the source i should enter for backports for 8.10
[02:56] <larry> that got it
[02:57] <achem> anyone??
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> !backports
[02:58] <achem> ^^ sweet
[02:59] <philena> If my packages for KDE are broken.  Is there a way for me to start over in the terminal?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> if the package sytstem is broken.. thats not good...
[03:00] <achem> lol
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, and pray
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:00] <philena> did that 3x now
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[03:01] <sourcemaker> I solved the problem via command line... RTFM :-)
[03:01] <mefisto__> philena: did you see anything about which packages are the problem ones?
[03:01] <larry> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem, what dose this mean
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> run the command it says....
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> with a sudo of course
[03:01] <mefisto__> larry: it means what it says
[03:02] <mefisto__> larry: dpkg handles the installation of packages
[03:02] <philena> yes.. Like   Recommends: kontact but it is not going to be installed.  I can't scroll up to see the other ones, but I see about 13
[03:02] <achem> yeaya finally sorted kde 4.2 out ( i think ) l8az going to check it out
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update | less
[03:02] <mefisto__> philena: you can scroll up with shift-pageup
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[03:05] <Guest18270> hell
[03:05] <Guest18270> hello
[03:05] <scroat> mefisto__: according to ATI's installation doc,  agpgart is Not supposed to be compiled in the kernel.
[03:05] <philena> "Some packages could not be installed.  This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming."
[03:05] <philena> I'm trippin on the "impossible situation" part.  Sheeeeesh
[03:06] <scroat> if i want to recompile my kernel,  what dir do i go to?  i dont think kubuntu even comes with the src.
[03:06] <edixon> hola
[03:07] <mefisto__> philena: you probably have something installed that is interfering with the installation of other required packages
[03:08] <mefisto__> philena: try this: sudo apt-get remove koffice-data-kde4
[03:09] <philena> package koffice-data-kde4 is not installed, so not removed
[03:09] <mefisto__> ok
[03:09] <philena> Then it list all the java libraries that I believe came from Ooo3
[03:10] <philena> saying that they are no longer required
[03:10] <mefisto__> philena: sudo apt-get remove plasmoid-*
[03:11] <mefisto__> philena: oh wait
[03:11] <mefisto__> philena: sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:11] <mefisto__> does autoremove remove anything?
[03:11] <philena> yes, it's removing 33 files
[03:12] <edixon> quien habla español soy de venezuela
[03:12] <mefisto__> ok, good sign
[03:12] <mefisto__> !es | edixon
[03:13] <mefisto__> philena: after they are removed, try    sudo apt-get upgrade   again
[03:13] <philena> ok..
[03:14] <philena> The following packages have been kept back: kdebase-runtime, kdebase...etc
[03:15] <mefisto__> philena: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    to install those
[03:18] <philena> failed to fetch cdrom:  plase use apt-cdrom
[03:21] <mefisto__> philena: cdrom?  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list   and wherever you see a line starting  "deb cdrom"  put a # at the start of that line to comment it out
[03:23] <philena> ok.. should I uncomment the backports?
[03:23] <mefisto__> philena: no, you need backports to get the kde 4.2 packages
[03:24] <mefisto__> oh, yes uncomment
[03:24] <philena> ok
[03:25] <philena> What about the ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main ? Should I comment that out too or need that?
[03:26] <mefisto__> philena: no you don't need that one. 4.2 is in backports, and I assume the experimental ppa ones are old now
[03:27] <scroat> has anyone recompiled their kernel ?
[03:29] <philena> awww.. that may have been my problem.
[03:30] <philena> I did sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and the dist-upgrade says it needs 7549kB
[03:31] <philena> 19 ungraded 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded
[03:32] <mefisto__> philena: what's the 1 not upgraded?  nearly there :)
[03:33] <philena> can't tell yet
[03:34] <larry> man it did it again
[03:35] <larry> locked up adept ,manger
[03:35] <larry> what was that command  sudo  what?
[03:36] <larry> i am going tp copy it tp my clip board this time
[03:36] <mefisto__> larry: adept crashed? frozen?
[03:37] <larry> yea
[03:37] <bazhang> !aptfix
[03:37] <scroat> whats the ncurses library ?
[03:37] <mefisto__> larry: ctrl-esc to list running processes, and search for adept to make sure it's not still running first
[03:38] <scroat> A[A[A *** 'make menuconfig' requires the ncurses libraries.
[03:38] <scroat> then it asks me to install some fictional packages
[03:38] <scroat> there is no ncurses ncurses-devel
[03:40] <^stig> libncurses5-dev
[03:42] <philena> ok.. it's done.  but I'm still stuck in the terminal
[03:43] <mefisto__> philena: if you try an upgrade now, does it still say 1 not upgraded?
[03:43] <philena> yes, system-config-printer-kde
[03:44] <mefisto__> philena: startx  ?  does that start kde now?
[03:45] <philena> nope.. still have the xsession error
[03:46] <mefisto__> philena: try rebooting then. I'm running out of ideas
[03:46] <DaSkreech> which error?
[03:47] <philena> DaSkreech: Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/user/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no termail emulators found; aborting
[03:47] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "/home/user/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, and no termail emulators found; aborting
[03:48] <philena> Kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
[03:48] <DaSkreech> what?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> your user name is user ?
[03:49] <philena> lmao.. no it's my username.. too funny
[03:49] <philena> sorry.. user = philena
[03:50] <DaSkreech> ok
[03:50] <DaSkreech> When did this start?
[03:50] <philena> trying to upgrade to 4.2 kde
[03:51] <philena> broke during upgrade, After it removed all the kde
[03:51] <philena> didn't know I wasn't suppose to use that ppa.launchpad link.  I didn't know it was outdated
[03:52] <philena> mefisto__: been helping get back right. Not sure what to do at this point.
[03:53] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: still one package not upgraded though: system-config-printer-kde
[03:54] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: That won't cause that error
[03:54] <DaSkreech> philena: ok did you remove X ?
[03:55] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: didn't think so. is "startx" the best way to start kde from terminal?
[03:55] <philena> you want me to autoremove again?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: yes
[03:56] <philena> remove X?
[03:57] <progmanos> is there a strigi applet for plasma?
[03:58] <larry> if some files didnt download rigthh  like thunderbird .how do i redownlooad the files
[03:59] <beardbar> anyone have trouble getting oss to work with there creative SB x-FI ?
[04:00] <mefisto__> larry: you mean you were installing thunderbird and it didn't download properly?
[04:00] <larry> yes
[04:01] <mefisto__> larry: are you in adept? or konsole?
[04:01] <larry> adept
[04:02] <mefisto__> larry: close adept, then in konsole: sudo apt-get clean  (which will remove all archived deb files that have been downloaded) then: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[04:08] <philena> *sigh* any luck on trying to figure out how I lost kde?
[04:09] <philena> do I have to use my Cd and start all over or umm... take some vicodin and call it a night?
[04:09] <Frederick> folks can I use kubuntu to restore my mbr?
[04:10] <Frederick> I have gentoo, vista and ubuntu installed but vista got corrupted and I had to reisntall it so it destried the mbr
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> you can use any linux to reinstall the grub if you want
[04:10] <DaSkreech> philena: ok back
[04:10] <DaSkreech> What have you tried so far?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> any LInux that doesn't use Lilo
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> you could use them also. :)
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> just install the grub tools heh
[04:11] <philena> I tried the Law of Attraction and praying..
[04:12] <DaSkreech> philena: what happens when you type X ?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> philena: I assume you know Vts ?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> VTs?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> where are you btw?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> on the machine that's broken?
[04:13] <Frederick> Dr_WillisI did a backup of grub is it safe to reinstall it with $ sudo dd of=/dev/sdc if=mbr.img ?
[04:13] <philena> no, I'm on my laptop on my lap, sitting in front of the broken one
[04:13] <philena> VTs?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> philena: ok type X on it and see what it does
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Virtual Terminals
[04:13] <DaSkreech> TTYs
[04:13] <philena> Just "x" by itself?
[04:13] <DaSkreech> X
[04:14] <DaSkreech> caps counts
[04:14] <DaSkreech> And for somereason it decided to be different
[04:14] <philena> OK.. a gray screen with an X in the middle
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Ok sweet so X works
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> :0
[04:15] <DaSkreech> press alt+ctrl+F1 to get back the terminal
[04:15] <DaSkreech> ctrl+C
[04:15] <philena> k
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> Frederick,  you could i guess... but ive never been brave enogh to use dd on the mbr. :)
[04:15] <DaSkreech> and then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Frederick: how big is mbr.img ?
[04:16] <mefisto__> !grub | Frederick
[04:16] <philena> I'm not getting a prompt now
[04:16] <DaSkreech> philena: try alt+ctrl+F2 ?
[04:17] <DaSkreech> wait
[04:17] <DaSkreech> after what?
[04:17] <philena> after the alt+ctrl+f1
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Try alt+ctrl+F2
[04:18] <philena> but I'm back and logged in the terminal after the f2 combo.
[04:18] <DaSkreech> sweet
[04:18] <DaSkreech>  killall X
[04:18] <DaSkreech> then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5
[04:18] <Frederick> is there an otion on the live cd to repair grub?
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Frederick: Yes read the link ubottu gave you
[04:19] <Frederick> k
[04:19] <DaSkreech> philena: Umm sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:19] <DaSkreech> !info pastebinit
[04:20] <philena> k
[04:20] <DaSkreech> done?
[04:20] <philena> yep
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Ok cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[04:21] <DaSkreech> give me the URL
[04:21] <philena> http://pastebin.com/f1f636def
[04:23] <DaSkreech> philena: Ok are you sure yo uwere using the PPA ?
[04:24] <philena> I was, but I took it off the sourcelist already
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ah bah
[04:24] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:24] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <draik__> !nvidia
[04:26] <philena> done
[04:26] <DaSkreech> philena: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <philena> E: broken packages
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Which?
[04:28] <philena> kde-window manage, kdebase-workspace-bin, ksysguard, language-selector... about 20 of them
[04:28] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:29] <philena> packages installed and are no longer required: libica10 kedbase-runtime kdelibs5 phytho-dev etc
[04:29] <DaSkreech> erm
[04:29] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:30] <philena> done
[04:31] <DaSkreech> no error messages ?
[04:32] <DaSkreech> or warnings?
[04:32] <mefisto__> philena: where those "no longer required" packages removed?
[04:32] <philena> yes
[04:33] <philena> processing triggers for libc6... idconfig deffed processing now taking place, processing triggers for man-db
[04:33] <philena> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 1 not upgraded
[04:36] <DaSkreech> philena: That's after what?
[04:37] <philena> it removed the 9 files
[04:37] <DaSkreech> ah right
[04:37] <DaSkreech> :-D
[04:37] <DaSkreech> which isn't upgraded?
[04:39] <philena> the printer one. but I don't think that will cause any problems
[04:39] <mefisto__> maybe remove that for now? what do you think DaSkreech?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: kubuntu-desktop will reinstall it
[04:40] <DaSkreech> philena: Lets try remove it though
[04:41] <DaSkreech> remove it then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: that's what I was thinking, remove it, then kubuntu-desktop will install an upgraded one
[04:41] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: Hopefully ;-)
[04:42] <mefisto__> philena: maybe try autoremove after removing it to
[04:42] <mefisto__> too
[04:42] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: good call
[04:43] <philena> ok done.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[04:43] <DaSkreech> philena: after autoremove ?
[04:44] <philena> I still did the autoremove tho
[04:45] <philena> now you want to do the kubuntu-desktop?
[04:45] <DaSkreech> philena: umm
[04:45] <DaSkreech> how soon do you have to go?
[04:45] <philena> like to the bathroom?  I'm good
[04:46] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[04:46] <mefisto__> :)
[04:46] <DaSkreech> ok when you install stuff it downloads the installers to your computer and caches them
[04:46] <philena> right.. I think that's the part that broke
[04:46] <DaSkreech> your cache right now is made up of ppa packages so I'm wondering if it would be more fun to see what happens
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Doubtful :)
[04:47] <DaSkreech> No installs happen unles the cache of stuff is fulfilled
[04:47] <PhrkOnLsh> is there any way to use KDE4's krunner in gutsy without pulling in KDE4?
[04:47] <philena> do I need to clear the cache?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> philena: No you don't
[04:47] <philena> k
[04:47] <DaSkreech> If you do you have to redownload everything
[04:47] <DaSkreech> which is safer
[04:47] <DaSkreech> but this way is faster and more fun
[04:48] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[04:48] <DaSkreech> PhrkOnLsh: Can I assume you mean All of KDE4?
[04:48] <PhrkOnLsh> yeah
[04:48] <DaSkreech> since obviously if you are installing krunner you would have to install kde4 libs and base ?
[04:48] <PhrkOnLsh> if there was just a krunner package, but there isn't.
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !info krunner
[04:48] <philena> I still get the 20 broken packages and recommendations to install
[04:49] <PhrkOnLsh> the last time I pulled kde4 from universe my system went mad
[04:49] <DaSkreech> philena: don't install
[04:49] <DaSkreech> philena: Which packages?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> !find krunner
[04:50] <philena> yeah.. thoses are listed too
[04:50] <DaSkreech> PhrkOnLsh: install kdebase-workspace and you should get it
[04:50] <mefisto__> PhrkOnLsh: you could install katapult, which is very similar to kde4 krunner in function
[04:50] <DaSkreech> katapult is installed by default on gutsy
[04:50] <PhrkOnLsh> DaSkreech: Last time I did that, my system went haywire; it doesn't particularly like qt4 i think... :(
[04:50] <PhrkOnLsh> DaSkreech: katapult sucks
[04:50] <PhrkOnLsh> I'm using it right now
[04:50] <DaSkreech> krunner is quite like it
[04:51] <DaSkreech> philena: ok sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <PhrkOnLsh> it's slow to start up, it doesn't remember what you've typed in previously (why do I have to type past konquest before konqueror) etc
[04:51] <PhrkOnLsh> I'd just upgrade to Hardy if my system had more ram.
[04:52] <philena> no different
[04:52] <PhrkOnLsh> I much prefer the look and feel of kde4
[04:52] <DaSkreech> PhrkOnLsh: well you can pull the kdebase-workspace debs and depends and try
[04:52] <DaSkreech> philena: hrrm
[04:52] <PhrkOnLsh> I'll try; thanks.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <philena> kde-window-manager, kdebase-workspace_bin etc
[04:53] <DaSkreech> philena: won't be installed ?
[04:53] <philena> nope
[04:53] <DaSkreech> philena: install kde-window-manager by itself
[04:53] <philena> kubuntu-desktop: Installed (none) candidate 1.101
[04:55] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager
[04:55] <philena> package has unmet dependencies: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libkdecorations4, libkwineffects1
[04:55] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install libkwineffects1
[04:56] <philena> libkwineffects1 dependencies kdebase-workspace-libs4+5
[04:57] <DaSkreech> run apt-cache policy on that
[04:57] <philena> You're right, the merry-go-round is so fun :D
[04:57] <DaSkreech> yeah upgrading a lot of packages at the same time can get interesting
[04:58] <DaSkreech> I've had to go right do to a single package and override the defaults then everything just magically worked after
[04:58] <mefisto__> aptitude is often better at doing this package juggling. maybe try that instead of apt-get ?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> mebbe
[04:58] <DaSkreech> I just want to make sure that the packages are coming from the right repos
[04:59] <philena> us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-backports/main  intrepid-updates, intrepid-security, etc
[04:59] <DaSkreech> what version number ?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> for candidate
[05:01] <philena> 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu7 (backport), 4:4.1.4-0unbuntu1 (updates) 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu12 (main)
[05:01] <philena> are they all suppose to be 4.2?
[05:02] <DaSkreech> There should only be one in candidate line
[05:02] <DaSkreech> no
[05:02] <philena> oh.. 4:4.2.0-0unbuntu7~intrepid1
[05:03] <DaSkreech> ok if that matches 4.2.0 for the apt-cache policy of kdelibs5 then try sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kde-window-manager
[05:05] <philena> well, kdelibs5 says 4:4.2.0-0unbuntu2~intrepid2
[05:06] <DaSkreech> ok ccol
[05:06] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kde-window-manager
[05:06] <DaSkreech> cool
[05:07] <philena> kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 depends libplasma3
[05:07] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kde-window-manager libplasma3
[05:08] <DaSkreech> philena: You know you can just press up to get history right?
[05:09] <philena> libplasma3 depends kdelibs5-data (= 4:4.2.0-0buntu2~intrepid2) but 4:4.2.1a-0ubuntu~intrepid1 is to be installed
[05:09] <phil__> hello
[05:09] <DaSkreech> ah ha
[05:09] <philena> DaSkreech: yeah, I figured that out trying to PageUp earlier
[05:11] <philena> is the ah ha the 4:4.2.1a part?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> philena: apt-cache policy kdelibs5-data and tell me which repo it's coming from
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Figured something was screwy in the line
[05:11] <DaSkreech> either getting 4.2.1 packages or getting 4.1.4 packages
[05:12] <philena> 4:4.2.1a-0ubuntu1~intrepid1
[05:13] <DaSkreech> I know :) which repo is it coming from ?
[05:14] <philena> you mena the version table?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> yes
[05:14] <philena> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status,
[05:15] <hypernewbie> hey, may i ask
[05:15] <DaSkreech> o_O
[05:15] <hypernewbie> is there a way to get the latest packages of kubuntu
[05:15] <DaSkreech> !ask
[05:15] <hypernewbie> with KDE 3.9
[05:15] <hypernewbie> instead of KDE Vista Ultimate?
[05:15] <DaSkreech> philena: anything under that ?
[05:15] <hypernewbie> sorry, re-ask
[05:16] <hypernewbie> is there a way to get kubuntu 8.10 with kde 2.9
[05:16] <hypernewbie> 3.9*
[05:16] <philena> 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-backports/ main packages, 4:4.2.0
[05:16] <mefisto__> hypernewbie: kde 3.9 ? or 3.5.10?
[05:16] <philena> 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main
[05:16] <hypernewbie> all the nice new shiny kernel, but with kde <whatever dapper had>
[05:17] <philena> 500 http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main
[05:17] <philena> 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main
[05:17] <hypernewbie> i have ubuntu right now, and would be nice if i could install KDE 3.9
[05:18] <mefisto__> hypernewbie: there are non-official repos around. but I don't know where they are. google would probably find a few. I remember a post on ubuntu forums about one of them
[05:18] <DaSkreech> philena: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5-data
[05:18] <DaSkreech> then try the same install from before
[05:19] <hypernewbie> mefisto__: that doesn't really help...
[05:19] <DaSkreech> hypernewbie: kinda
[05:19] <kuaera> Good morning, folks
[05:19] <kuaera> Three things: One, the "droid" set of fonts is really rather awesome
[05:19] <hypernewbie> DaSkreech: i just want ubuntu ibex with outdated kde and kde libs
[05:20] <kuaera> Two, I can't get any of my KDE 4 filepicker dialog options to "stick"
[05:20] <hypernewbie> DaSkreech: anything that rids me of that horrid KDE Vista Ultimate
[05:20] <kuaera> Three, "systemsettings" comes up blank.
[05:21] <DaSkreech> hypernewbie: look up apt-pearsoncomputing.net
[05:21] <kuaera> I think 2 and 3 may be related to me hacking some stuff from the KDE repo, thus altering my PATH variable
[05:21] <kuaera> But #2 persists even when I've just booted up my system and haven't altered anything.
[05:21] <yao_ziyuan> i removed adept and kpackagekit and try to use update-notifier to notify me of updates
[05:21] <DaSkreech> kuaera: KDEPAH
[05:21] <DaSkreech> KDEPATH
[05:21] <yao_ziyuan> but when i run update-notifier from konsole it doesn't show a tray icon,
[05:21] <kuaera> DaSkreech: I don't touch KDEPATH on my normal user.
[05:21] <yao_ziyuan> while there indeed are updates if i use apt-get
[05:22] <DaSkreech> kuaera: ok
[05:22] <DaSkreech> philena: installs now?
[05:22] <mefisto__> hypernewbie: is this better?   http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kde+3+intrepid
[05:22] <philena> kubuntu-desktop depends kdebase-workspace-bin and recommends kdeplasma add-ons
[05:23] <yao_ziyuan> got it. has to use -c.
[05:23] <DaSkreech> philena: did kde-window manager install?
[05:24] <philena> kdebase-workspace-bin depends kdebase-workspace-data (= 4.4.2.0-0unbuntu7~intrepid
[05:24] <kuaera> DaSkreech: I even did "sudo chown <user>:<user> ~ -R" to no avail... I don't know why the setting isn't saving
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Disk full?
[05:24] <kuaera> Nope
[05:25] <DaSkreech> philena: apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace-data ?
[05:25] <philena> Oh my, 11 new installs are prompted
[05:25] <DaSkreech> !puregnome
[05:25] <DaSkreech> bah
[05:25] <DaSkreech> !purekde
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Gah
[05:26] <philena> !what
[05:26] <philena> oh
[05:27] <DaSkreech> philena: what's the version for kdebase-workspace-data ?
[05:27] <hypernewbie> mefisto__:thanks, I know how to use google now! ( Google: stuffing up linux installations since 1989 )
[05:27] <philena> Well it's installing now
[05:28] <philena> I can't tell
[05:28] <mefisto__> hypernewbie: well that's what you want to do :) installing kde3 in intrepid
[05:28] <DaSkreech> oh
[05:28] <DaSkreech> ok :-)
[05:29] <hypernewbie> mefisto__: not really, KDE4 has stuffed kubuntu installation, now I'm here to fix it
[05:30] <philena> setting up kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 (4:4.2.0-0ubuntu7~intrepid1)
[05:30] <yao_ziyuan> i located this in update-notifier-kde:
[05:30] <yao_ziyuan> KProcess.startDetached("kcmshell4", ["kpk_update"])
[05:30] <yao_ziyuan> i replaced kpk_update with update-manager but it doesn't work because update-manager is not a kcm module.
[05:30]  * kuaera spins around and around. I've finally got a grip on C++ programming \\o/
[05:30] <yao_ziyuan> ah,
[05:30] <yao_ziyuan> i got it.
[05:30] <kuaera> DaSkreech: Do you use Kontact/Korganizer?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Wheee
[05:30] <DaSkreech> yes lightly
[05:31] <kuaera> I need some input for a project I'm working on.
[05:31] <DaSkreech> #kontact ?
[05:31] <kuaera> They're all asleep, and this is an end-user thing :P
[05:31] <DaSkreech> They are end users as well :)
[05:31] <kuaera> It's been requested ("wish") that priorities have more visual impact, at least in the adjenda view [where all todos are visible]
[05:32] <DaSkreech> yeah
[05:32] <kuaera> So, I've played around with it some, and have a couple of options:
[05:32] <philena> I'm still getting an error for install the kubuntu-desktop.   kdebase-workspace-bin still
[05:32] <philena> depends
[05:32] <hypernewbie> mefisto__: thanks for the link though, this seems to work so far
[05:33] <kuaera> [1] A series of background gradients, dependent on the completion %, location in start date to end date, and priority [the most colorful, but confusing option]
[05:33] <DaSkreech> !ot | DaSkreech and kuaera Fascinating stuff but you know better
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Oh right sorry ubottu
[05:34] <DaSkreech> philena: Which error ?
[05:34] <kuaera> >_> Sorry.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> kuaera: Joining ?
[05:35] <philena> kubuntu-desktop dependencies on kdebase-workspace-bin  recommends: kdeplasma add-ons
[05:35] <DaSkreech> is it still installing ?
[05:36] <philena> broken packages
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Is that a no?
[05:36] <philena> no
[05:36] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:36] <philena> it says it's an "impossible situation" or unstable distro
[05:36] <DaSkreech> so that last no means yes?
[05:37] <philena> lol.. yes
[05:37] <DaSkreech> alright
[05:38] <DaSkreech> well when you get back some control try apt-cache policy kdeplasma-addons
[05:39] <philena> candidate: 4:4.2.0-0~intrepid1
[05:39] <DaSkreech> it'sinstalled?
[05:41] <philena> 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-backports/ main packages, 4:4.2.0
[05:41] <philena> 	500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main 4:4.1.4
[05:41] <philena> 	100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[05:41] <philena> 	500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main
[05:41] <philena> 	
[05:41] <philena> nope, not installed
[05:43] <DaSkreech> what about kdebase-workspace-bin
[05:43] <DaSkreech> what's the policy on that?
[05:43] <philena> depends on kdeplasma-addons-data (=4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but 4:4.2.1-0ubuntu~intrepid1 is to be installed
[05:44] <philena> I thought I read something about the Plasmoids not being capable with 4.2?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> philena: huh?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> That's what policysays?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> for kdebase-workspace-bin ?
[05:45] <philena> Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids.
[05:45] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get remove plasmoid-*
[05:45] <DaSkreech> philena: Did you install custom plasmoids in KDE 4.1 ?
[05:45] <philena> KDEtwitter
[05:46] <DaSkreech> That's not the one that ships with KDE ?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> you got it from KDE-apps or something ?
[05:46] <philena> It was in my widget list.  I dunno
[05:46] <philena> I just added it, I didn't have to go download it
[05:46] <DaSkreech> ok you are fine then
[05:47] <DaSkreech> They are talking about third party ones from sites
[05:47] <DaSkreech> is kdebase-workspace-bin installed ?
[05:48] <philena> no
[05:48] <DaSkreech> ok sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin kdeplasma-addons
[05:49] <beardbar> anyone here have a c
[05:49] <philena> unmet dependcies with data
[05:50] <DaSkreech> which are?
[05:50] <philena> workspace_bin depends on workspace_data and kdeplasma-addons depends on addons-data
[05:54] <DaSkreech> ha
[05:54] <DaSkreech> bet both of those are 4.2.1 :)
[05:54] <philena> yep
[05:55] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get remove kdebase-workspace-data kdeplasma-addons-data && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:57] <philena> 0 upgraded, 115 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[05:58] <DaSkreech> which 2 to remove ?
[05:58] <yao_ziyuan> press ctrl+esc, is there a process "python" whose command line is python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde ?
[05:59] <philena> the kdeplasma_addons_data and the workspace-data
[06:00] <DaSkreech> philena: ah move right along then
[06:01] <philena> yao_ziyuan: me?
[06:01] <yao_ziyuan> philena: anyone
[06:02] <yao_ziyuan> anyway i've just downloaded kubuntu jaunty alpha 6 and will see it in vbox
[06:02] <philena> oh..ok
[06:02] <yao_ziyuan> i just modified update-notifier-kde to use synaptic update-manager as updater
[06:02] <gohmifune> Anyone run into some bootup weirdness
[06:02] <gohmifune> ?
[06:03] <gohmifune> I mean lately that is
[06:06] <DaSkreech> yao_ziyuan: normally ctrl+Esc pops up the task manager
[06:06] <yao_ziyuan> yes
[06:06] <DaSkreech> philena: let me know when that goes through
[06:06] <DaSkreech> if you are running krunner
[06:06] <philena> k
[06:07] <alesan> hi what is a good RSS reader?
[06:08] <alesan> my friends always set up meetings on a forum that has a RSS feed
[06:08] <DaSkreech> akregator
[06:08] <DaSkreech> it should be installed
[06:08] <DaSkreech> there are about 3-4 RSS plasmoids as well
[06:09] <alesan> I use kde3.5
[06:09] <gohmifune> akregator is for kde 3.5
[06:09] <gohmifune> and 4
[06:09] <yao_ziyuan> DaSkreech: yes, i'm asking if there is a process in it called python and whose command line is python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde
[06:09] <alesan> ok I started akregator... now what :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> yao_ziyuan: Ha ok now i understand
[06:10] <DaSkreech> alesan: add feed
[06:11] <philena> Oh, while waiting, is there a workaround to access Office Live workspace, or am I stuck with Google docs?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> what does Office Live require?
[06:12] <philena> Firefox or IE running with a Windows OS
[06:12] <DaSkreech> run firefox then
[06:13] <philena> I can only access with my Vista, even with the Firefox browser, it still detected that I wasn't on a Windows OS
[06:13] <DaSkreech> philena: Install the User agent extension
[06:15] <alesan> tahnks, bye
[06:16] <larry> whhat kind of decoder do i need to make amarok play radio stattions
[06:16] <DaSkreech> mp3
[06:16] <larry> where do i get them
[06:17] <DaSkreech> install libxine1-ffmpeg
[06:31] <yao_ziyuan> sigh. kubuntu jaunty alpha 6 starts so slowly in vbox
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> demand a refund
[06:31] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone tell me in your task manager whether there is a process "python" with command line 'python /usr/bin/update-notifier-kde'?
[06:39] <philena> well, slap me with a slimmy fish.. It worked!
[06:40] <mefisto__> philena: upgrade done?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Course it worked :)
[06:40] <philena> yes, it's back to where I was
[06:40] <DaSkreech> hmm?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> x session errors?
[06:40] <mefisto__> kde 4.1?
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Windows XP ?
[06:41] <philena> no.. I mean back before I lose everything and it broke
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Oh so KDE 4.1 then
[06:41] <DaSkreech> X-D
[06:42] <philena> I hope not.  How do I check version again.  top .. no.. or was it ls? I forget.
[06:42] <mefisto__> if it's not too detailed, can you fill me in on what was wrong?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> kde4-config --version
[06:44] <philena> yeah, my versions were not clicking.  But I know I didn't download anything for plasmoid, and I think that KDEtwitter is kinda new right?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> It's replaced with the new one
[06:45] <philena> oh.
[06:46] <HelloWorld> marton:您真来了？您的英语一定非常好。
[06:47] <philena> audio working now.  But I did get these cpus from Devry and I know they alter sound settings, but I didn't know my audio could split up like that
[06:47] <mefisto__> so philena, is it 4.2 now or still 4.1?
[06:47] <philena> how do I check
[06:48] <philena>  I keep thinking it's top, but that's for local processing
[06:48] <mefisto__> help, about kde in a kde4 app, or kded4 --version
[06:48] <DaSkreech> kde4-config --version
[06:50] <philena> akonadi console?
[06:50] <philena> dfoop
[06:52] <philena> version 4.2.00 sweet
[06:53] <mefisto__> DaSkreech: shouldn't it be 4.2.1? or is that just jaunty?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> mefisto__: Main is 4.1.4 Backports is 4.2.0 ppa is 4.2.1
[06:55] <mefisto__> philena: just curious, were all your plasmoids still in place after upgrading?
[06:56] <philena> yep
[06:56] <philena> Oh well, I did close twitter though, but that was because it was in the way.
[06:57] <geoblic> z
[06:58] <mefisto__> philena: well, enjoy! over and out
[06:59] <philena> Yes, I'm done for now.  I will try to work on the other little stuff tomorrow.  Thanks so much DaSkreech for stickin with me.
[07:00] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:00] <DaSkreech> good night
[07:00] <DaSkreech>  Im' heading to bed as well
[08:05] <kalp> hi ppl
[08:07] <kalp> i have replaced sources.list with a new one, but synaptec package manager isnt taking the new rep sources. what should i do?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Close Synaptic and reopen
[08:12] <kalp> i restarted the comp, even tat didnt help
[08:13] <DaSkreech> What is synaptic reading ?
[08:13] <wiggles> hi
[08:13] <wiggles> anyone got a oneliner for those who have apache installed, and wanna code php/mqsql ?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install php5-mysql php5 mysql-server
[08:19] <kalp> snaptic is reading older reps
[08:19] <kalp> those are local on my college network
[08:19] <kalp> i am outside college now
[08:19] <k0pp> i've got an issue.. this is with Kubuntu only.  when i run KDE for .. freebsd or anything else my sound works fine.  my sound is still working, but its very staticy.  there's always static, even when no music is playing.  what could be causing this?
[08:21] <DaSkreech> kalp: Even after a sudo apt-get update ?
[08:22] <kalp> its trying to connect to college network
[08:22] <DaSkreech> where did you put the sources.list ?
[08:22] <kalp> "/etc/apt"
[08:22] <druggz> i ran apt-get install php5-mysql mysql-client php5
[08:22] <druggz> and my php files are not being interpreted
[08:22] <george__> #protogonoi
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !php
[08:23] <DaSkreech> pastebin it
[08:24] <kalp> meaning?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> !paste
[08:31] <kalp> deb ftp://ftp.iitb.ac.in/os/ubuntu/archives/ intrepid universe main restricted multiverse
[08:31] <kalp> deb ftp://ftp.iitb.ac.in/os/ubuntu/archives/ intrepid-security universe main restricted multiverse
[08:31] <kalp> kalp@kalpkubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
[08:31] <kalp> 12% [Connecting to IITB#2007@netmon.iitb.ac.in] [Connecting to IITB#2007@netmon.iitb.ac.in] [Connecting to ftp.iitb.ac.in]^C
[08:43] <duke_> hi
[08:43] <doktorlinux> buongiorno
[08:43] <duke_> can i ask, how to install flash player into konqueror?
[08:44] <doktorlinux> supporto kubuntu 9.04
[08:49] <leiiitoh> hola
[08:49] <leiiitoh> algun latino por aca
[08:52] <leiiitoh> mm
[08:56] <duke_> anybody have a clue why flash is blank screen under my konqueror?
[09:07] <duke_> !flash
[09:08] <duke_> anybody have a clue why flash is only blank screen inside my konqueror?
[09:08] <duke_> it works good inside firefox
[09:42] <duke_> !microhpone
[09:42] <duke_> !mic
[09:42] <duke_> !lan
[09:57] <marco_> i'm sorry, where can I edit my system sonds?
[09:58] <marco_> I don't find it in the menu
[10:00] <jussi01> marco_: kmenu - system settings - notifications
[10:02] <marco_> -_-' i've found it
[10:02] <marco_> tx
[10:03] <k0pp> alright, im trying to get my second monitor working. can anyone spare some time to hold my hand through this
[10:46] <marco_> I've re-installed a windows partition on my pc, how can I re-install grub?
[10:47] <Tm_T> !grub | marco_
[10:54] <sorset> hi , both zip and jar files are identifying  as zip file in new kubuntu..how can i fix it?
[11:14] <fivetwentysix> hmm
[11:15] <fivetwentysix> Is there a firefox for KDE?
[11:16] <bazhang> !info firefox
[11:16] <bazhang> you can use the qt style to make it fit in more nicely, but no separate package
[11:17] <fivetwentysix> When I do that, it gets really buggy
[11:17] <fivetwentysix> Oh well, doesnt matter.
[11:18] <ubsafder> hello
[11:19] <bazhang> with many extensions? or just that one modification?
[11:19] <kbela> bye
[11:19] <ubsafder> my kubunutu connects to the wireless network when I use gnome but not kde .
[11:20] <bazhang> ubsafder, with knetwork-manager or cli
[11:21] <ubsafder> in gnome it connects with network manager applet . under kde i could not something similar configured
[11:21] <bazhang> so the gui in kubuntu ?
[11:22] <bazhang> is this an encrypted network or open one?
[11:22] <ubsafder> wpa
[11:22] <bazhang> is the ap associated? check iwconfig
[11:23] <ubsafder> can I get the gnome soft to connect even if i am under kde ?
[11:23] <bazhang> ubsafder, sure
[11:23] <bazhang> ubsafder, some others have reported the exact same issue
[11:24] <ubsafder> ok ok i will log under kde and try
[11:24] <ubsafder> thanks
[11:24] <bazhang> thread or two on the forums about it (at least)
[11:24] <bazhang> np
[11:24] <bazhang> let me get you a weblink
[11:24] <bazhang> oops
[11:24] <kbela> !info firefox
[11:25] <kbela> !info konqueror
[11:40] <k0pp> anyone use superkaramba in here?  one of the themes i'm using has a CPU temperature monitor, but it wont work.. i know there was a package i needed for it to work last time i used it, i just cant rembmer what.
[11:41] <k0pp> does anyone know what it was?
[11:42] <bazhang> !info lm-sensors
[11:50] <fran> hola
[11:51] <fran22> holas
[11:57] <rehman> hi every on
[12:03] <rehman> hi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?
[12:03] <metbsd> does wubin installation have compiz-fusion and beryl
[12:03] <metbsd> ?
[12:05] <rehman> hi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?
[12:06] <metbsd> if i use wubin to install kubuntu, does it have compiz-fusion and beryl?
[12:06] <rehman> hi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?
[12:09] <metbsd> is beryl stable?
[12:09] <sorset> hi , when i copy a file to flash memory  , after remove . it begins to write...
[12:09] <bazhang> metbsd, there is no beryl
[12:10] <sorset> how can i fix it?
[12:10] <metbsd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM&feature=related
[12:10] <metbsd> this is not real?
[12:11] <bazhang> metbsd, compiz-fusion (now compiz) resulted from beryl
[12:12] <metbsd> what?
[12:13] <metbsd> is ubuntu native same as wubi install?
[12:13] <bazhang> metbsd, no
[12:19] <noren> !opera
[12:27] <noren> hi all
[12:28] <rehman> hi noreen
[12:28] <rehman> hi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?
[12:31] <rehman> hi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?
[12:32] <sokarrat> Hi
[12:34] <rehman> hi, Please I m new to linux, I m using kubuntu. Konqueror is not opening any page. can any body help me?
[12:35] <rehman> please any linux master here
[12:35] <Dekans> like http://www.google.com ?
[12:36] <FreeMinded> how do you conect to the internet?
[12:37] <metbsd> do i have comiz with wubi installation?
[12:37] <rehman> i am using kubuntu 7.10,
[12:37] <rehman> i connected via wvdial
[12:38] <FreeMinded> is the connection up and working?
[12:38] <rehman> it connected and messengers and irc are running but konqueror is not opening any page.
[12:38] <bazhang> metbsd, did you install via wubi?
[12:38] <metbsd> yes
[12:38] <bazhang> then install ccsm and see
[12:39] <bazhang> oh wait 7.10
[12:39] <metbsd> will it work?
[12:39] <FreeMinded> rehman: might be a problem with proxy settings?
[12:39] <FreeMinded> did you change anything there?
[12:40] <Dekans> wghat url are you trying rehman ?
[12:40] <rehman> ok sir. I changed when it produced problem.
[12:40] <bazhang> !ccsm | metbsd
[12:40] <rehman> i am trying simle www.google.com
[12:40] <Dekans> add http://
[12:40] <Dekans> in the url
[12:41] <Dekans> just in case
[12:41] <rehman> it is written automatically.
[12:41] <bazhang> rehman, can you ping www.google.com from the konsole
[12:41] <rehman> i went SETTINGS> PROXY> AUTOMATICALLY DETECT SETTINGS but it did not worked.
[12:42] <rehman> how to ping?
[12:42] <bazhang> rehman, open konsole
[12:42] <rehman> ok
[12:42] <rehman> opened
[12:42] <bazhang> type: ping www.google.com
[12:42] <rehman> trying
[12:43] <rehman> yes it is running
[12:44] <rehman> one line from console i m pasting
[12:44] <rehman> 64 bytes from sn-in-f104.google.com (216.239.61.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=1179 m
[12:44] <bazhang> rehman, that is good
[12:44] <rehman> all lines are almost simmilar
[12:45] <bazhang> rehman, now try to access a different site than google in your browser (ie www.yahoo.com)
[12:45] <rehman> ok
[12:45] <rehman> no.
[12:46] <rehman> same result
[12:46] <bazhang> 404?
[12:47] <rehman> no, simple two lines," An error occurred while loading http://www.yahoo.com:" and
[12:47] <rehman> "Could not connect to host http://www.yahoo.com/."
[12:47] <bazhang> rehman, are you using a proxy or behind some kind of filter that blocks certain sites?
[12:48] <rehman> no, I am using dialup connection
[12:48] <bazhang> odd
[12:48] <bazhang> just timed it out seems
[12:49] <rehman> I have just istalled the kubuntu.
[12:51] <bazhang> rehman, are you able to install software and update your computer? or does that time out too
[12:51] <rehman> i have not checked.
[12:51] <rehman> could be some thing wrong with resolv.conf
[12:51] <rehman> ?
[12:51] <bazhang> doubtful
[12:52] <bazhang> sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:52] <rehman> ok
[12:53] <rehman> i ran it
[12:54] <rehman> the end line is " 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded"
[12:55] <bazhang> so it is fully up to date then
[12:57] <gohmifune> I'm locked out of graphics mode, and can only get into the command line login screen
[12:57] <gohmifune> anyone can help with this?
[12:57] <rehman> ok, thankyou for your time BAZHANG.
[12:58] <bazhang> rehman, what about installing packages? does that work as well?
[12:59] <gohmifune> has there been any update weirdness lately?
[12:59] <rehman> well, I opened the adept Manager. Should i click on Fetch Updates?
[13:00] <bazhang> rehman, no need as you just ran those commands
[13:00] <bazhang> rehman, you were modifying resolv.conf?
[13:01] <rehman> yes, I modified but with
[13:02] <bazhang> rehman, and before modifying it all worked?
[13:02] <rehman> no
[13:02] <rehman> before modifying, no page was being opened.
[13:03] <rehman> then i added two nameservers but with the same result.
[13:03] <bazhang> rehman, and all other sites via browser return cannot load page errors but web (irc and other) work?
[13:03] <rehman> but messengers and irc are funning well.
[13:04] <m0nst3rkill3r> hi guys
[13:04] <m0nst3rkill3r> i want to install a realvnc
[13:04] <m0nst3rkill3r> but if i install it i become a problem
[13:04] <rehman> yes
[13:04] <m0nst3rkill3r> http://pastebin.com/m3a0d306a
[13:06] <rehman> before modifying, only messengers and irc are running well and no browising
[13:07] <rehman> and after modifying, the result is same.
[13:08] <m0nst3rkill3r> can you help me xD ?
[13:13] <m0nst3rkill3r> ??
[13:16] <m0nst3rkill3r> can someone help me pls with that problem ?`
[13:20] <noren> hi all
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> i want to discuss update-notifier-kde.
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> it "shows tray icon when apt has updates"
[13:27] <yao_ziyuan> but how does apt check for updates periodically?
[13:37] <stdin> yao_ziyuan: short answer is that it doesn't check apt directly, for a longer answer ask in #ubuntu-devel
[13:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[13:39] <yao_ziyuan> stdin: yeah, i wonder how to set up a mechanism to periodically check apt
[13:40] <stdin> yao_ziyuan: by default, "apt-get update" is run daily from cron
[13:41] <yao_ziyuan> good!
[13:41] <yao_ziyuan> let me check
[13:41] <stdin> update-notifier-kde just checks to see if the files there have been changed recently
[13:41] <stdin> iirc it's from /etc/cron.daily/apt
[13:41] <yao_ziyuan> you're most helpful!
[13:42] <arthur> hello.
[13:42] <arthur> im new here
[13:43] <arthur> im new to ubuntu and linux just switched to dual boot yesterday.
[13:43] <AvoiD> hmm..can someone explain me, how i can setup my keyboard, so that i can make a slash
[13:43] <arthur> where is the best place to learn
[13:43] <AvoiD> yea, me too, arthur
[13:43] <yao_ziyuan> stdin: update-notifier-kde has an option: -c, --check-new-packages  Check for updated packages
[13:44] <yao_ziyuan> stdin: i wonder, since it is run as a normal user, how does it check for updates with -c?
[13:45] <Genscher> hey :)
[13:46] <Genscher> anyone else got a black screen (with working mouse cursor) when starting the latest alpha of kubuntu (live cd)?
[13:47] <stdin> yao_ziyuan: it'd use kpackagekit I think
[13:48] <yao_ziyuan> stdin: no
[13:49] <yao_ziyuan> stdin: i already removed kpackagekit and adept, and i can run "update-notifier-kde -c" to show up the tray icon if there are updates
[13:50] <stdin> yao_ziyuan: it uses python-apt to check
[13:51] <stdin> yao_ziyuan: it doesn't actually check the repositories, just that the current package versions are the latest
[13:51] <stdin> *that it knows about
[13:51] <yao_ziyuan> good
[13:51] <yao_ziyuan> just like it would do periodically?
[13:52] <stdin> update-notifier-kde doesn't do periodic checks, it uses a directory watcher so it get's notified when the timestamps in /var/lib/apt/lists/ change
[13:58] <providence> hi @ all i have a question about TeamSpeak, does anybody knows this software?#
[13:59] <AvoiD> of course..but i am a noob to linux..so..
[14:00] <yao_ziyuan> stdin: good
[14:01] <providence> =) i had no linux for over an year... i had to get along with vista... horrible OS X.x
[14:01] <providence> oh btw sry for the bad english...
[14:01] <AvoiD> mhh..i think windows is easier to..use than linux..but i want to learn linux..its pretty cool
[14:02] <AvoiD> but..maybe you can tell me how the hell i get my firefox to run..
[14:02] <providence> whats the matter? which problem do you have exactly
[14:03] <AvoiD> well..i just downloaded it into home, documents
[14:03] <AvoiD> and..how i can install it no
[14:04] <providence> there is a much better way
[14:04] <providence> can u open the terminal ?
[14:04] <AvoiD> yea what now
[14:05] <providence> sudo apt-get install firefox
[14:05] <metbsd> wubi installation halts at installing system: formatting /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk
[14:05] <metbsd> what should i do?
[14:05] <AvoiD> unable to luck the administation directory, is another process using it
[14:05] <AvoiD> ..lock the administration
[14:06] <providence> oh do u have the adept manager running?
[14:06] <metbsd> me?
[14:06] <metbsd> talking to me?
[14:06] <providence> @ AvoiD
[14:06] <AvoiD> urgh..yea its running
[14:06] <providence> @ AvoiD pls close and try again
[14:06] <providence> @metbsd i'm looking for your problem one minute pls
[14:07] <AvoiD> okay, its working now, thanks dude
[14:07] <providence> no problem =)
[14:08] <providence> metbsd: listening?
[14:09] <providence> metbsd???
[14:09] <metbsd> providence, yes
[14:09] <providence> oh hi ^^
[14:09] <providence> If the installation fails while formatting the swap virtual disk it means that your drive is excessively fragmented. Uninstall, run jkdefrag on the target drive, then run wubi again.
[14:10] <metbsd> oh so i need to deinstall wubi?
[14:10] <providence> sadly... yes
[14:10] <metbsd> ok
[14:16] <metbsd> how many ppl using wubi?
[14:17] <providence> i don't even know what this is ^^
[14:19] <DaSkreech> !wubi
[14:19] <providence> ooh like an virtual machine?
[14:22] <DaSkreech> providence: Something like that
[14:23] <metbsd> but wubi is slower than native ubuntu?
[14:24] <DaSkreech> In thory yes
[14:24] <DaSkreech> In practice not that much
[14:25] <Administrator_> DaSkreech, i wonder why
[14:26] <Administrator_> but wubi can use beryl too?
[14:27] <Administrator_> compzi fusion and stuff
[14:30] <Avoided> umm..how i can install teamspeak2
[14:31] <vorian> i have a noob question
[14:31] <vorian> how do I set one large wallpaper?
[14:31] <vorian> I need it to be 3840x1080
[14:31] <vorian> not two seperate wallpapers
[14:40] <mantas> Sveiki yra kas is LT ?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> !lt
[15:01] <prophezy> Icon225!
[15:01] <prophezy> hmm how do you search here?
[15:01] <prophezy> !icon225
[15:02] <prophezy> :(
[15:12] <[agatha]> hello... i am having an issue with my fstab and mounting a partition... anyone minds taking a look at it???
[15:12] <[agatha]> because i am running out of ideas
[15:13] <providence> [agatha]: whats your problem in detail?
[15:13] <[agatha]> providence:  i have a data partition and when i try to access it always asks me for my password
[15:13] <[agatha]> in the fstab options i have defaults, kitsune so afaik it should not ask for a pwd before mounting, just mount
[15:13] <[agatha]> but i have no way of figuring out how to avoid that funny prompt
[15:14] <providence> [agatha]: that should be the root password, tried this?
[15:14] <[agatha]> yes yes it is, i can access it with the root password
[15:15] <[agatha]> but i would like not to have to enter it every time i try to access my stuff... once it's mounted it's okay but it was not like that ever before
[15:15] <providence> than you have to set a mount point
[15:15] <[agatha]> i will show you the line, moment
[15:15] <noren_> agatha: does it ask everytime or only once when u mount it
[15:16] <[agatha]> only when i mount it noren_
[15:16] <[agatha]> the line looks like this # /dev/sda1     /home/kitsune/stuff       ext3   defaults, kitsune         0    1
[15:16] <[agatha]> but it does not mount in that path either
[15:16] <[agatha]> and i don't know what might be wrong
[15:17] <arrrghhh> so i'm trying to figure out why my wifi works great in GNOME, but no networks are detected in KDE.  ever since i updated to kde4, wifi has been broken.  it used to "just work" even on the livecd with kde3...
[15:17] <[agatha]> arrrghhh:  try right click new connection wlan0
[15:17] <[agatha]> there should detect the networks around??
[15:17] <arrrghhh> [agatha], yea, says "no connections present"
[15:17] <noren_> /home/kitsune/stuff << u need to have this directory available
[15:17] <arrrghhh> i'm in gnome right now, wifi works great
[15:17] <[agatha]> hmm it is noren_ i created it specifically for this, but won't mount
[15:18] <arrrghhh> [agatha], and why do you have defaults, kitsune - that kitsune seems extraneous
[15:18] <noren_> !mount
[15:18] <[agatha]> kitsune is my username for the pc
[15:18] <arrrghhh> can you mount it outside of fstab?
[15:18] <[agatha]> so if i set defaults, kitsune should give ownership to my username
[15:18] <arrrghhh> like from the cli
[15:18] <arrrghhh> [agatha], are you sure...?
[15:18] <[agatha]> it mounts in an out arrrghhh just prompts me for the root password and i dont want that
[15:19] <arrrghhh> hrm
[15:19] <arrrghhh> i think you need permissions set on that folder
[15:19] <[agatha]> hmm arrrghhh i am not really sure but it worked fine like that while using lenny
[15:19] <arrrghhh> lenny != ubuntu
[15:19] <[agatha]> i am not very skilled with fstab
[15:19] <[agatha]> i know i know arrrghhh
[15:19] <[agatha]> just wondering what might be wrong now
[15:19] <arrrghhh> i think you need to set the permissions for the folder
[15:19] <arrrghhh> group permissions and rights
[15:20] <noren_> !fstab
[15:20] <arrrghhh> cuz i don't tell who should own what in fstab.
[15:20] <[agatha]> ahaaaaaaaaaa
[15:20] <[agatha]> chown
[15:20] <[agatha]> jesus thanks guys
[15:20] <arrrghhh> yessir
[15:20] <[agatha]> you're a bunch of life savers
[15:20] <arrrghhh> i do what i can
[15:21] <arrrghhh> now if i could figure out why gnome works my wifi perfectly and kde4.1 or 4.2 don't...
[15:21] <[agatha]> i just need to remember everything all the time
[15:21] <[agatha]> hmmm
[15:21] <arrrghhh> that's right.
[15:21] <gohmifune> hey guys, what's the best alternate window manager in the repos?
[15:21] <[agatha]> maybe i can help arrrghhh... i use wireless too... and i've had a few issues with it myself :D
[15:21] <arrrghhh> gohmifune, xfce, gnome and kde are the "main" wms.
[15:21] <[agatha]> just let me chown the thing
[15:21] <arrrghhh> np
[15:23] <arrrghhh> iwconfig works in kde, but i don't want to have to setup my wifi by hand.  when i iwconfig in gnome when i'm connected, it reports everything just fine.  in kde, it lists eth1 as having wireless extensions, but kde doesn't seem to want to manage it.
[15:23] <gohmifune> arrrghhh: yeah, but I was thinking like iceWM or flux or something. KDE crapped out on me, I like the idea of having a secondary like SUSe does
[15:23] <[agatha]> which wireless chipset you have arrrghhh?//
[15:23] <arrrghhh> gohmifune, i think those are in the repo's but i'm not sure
[15:23] <arrrghhh> [agatha], 2200 intel
[15:23] <arrrghhh> like i said, livecd + kde3 - works perfectly.
[15:23] <arrrghhh> so something changed in kde4 (duh)
[15:24] <[agatha]> hmmm i also have intel and i haven'thad issues...
[15:24] <arrrghhh> ipw2200
[15:24] <[agatha]> let's ask uncle google :) sec
[15:24] <arrrghhh> lol
[15:24] <[agatha]> hey sometimes it works hehe
[15:24] <arrrghhh> i've poked around, just confuses me.
[15:25] <arrrghhh> oh i'm a huge advocate of the "google is your friend" program
[15:25] <[agatha]> hmm jesus i had the same issue when i tried debian and kde4... i just cannot remember all the bunch of commands i typed to fix it
[15:25] <[agatha]> but there was a way
[15:25] <[agatha]> im hopeless
[15:26] <arrrghhh> lol
[15:27] <arrrghhh> like i said, i can set it up by hand with iwconfig
[15:27] <[agatha]> hmmm but it wasnt needed
[15:27] <arrrghhh> but i'd much rather kde manage it.
[15:27] <[agatha]> there was a command to check the wireless signal and the noise and so on
[15:27] <arrrghhh> sometimes i miss the rock that is kde3.
[15:27] <[agatha]> but i cant remember
[15:27] <[agatha]> hm kde4 works all fine for me... i swap from gnome
[15:28] <arrrghhh> iwconfig
[15:28] <arrrghhh> yea i'm not a fan of gnome.
[15:28] <arrrghhh> but it works, so i'm stuck with it for now, lol
[15:28] <[agatha]> no  me neither... i rather like better kde
[15:29] <[agatha]> hmm try with iwconfig and check if the wireless is at least running... maybe your knowledge and my hints... and we will manage
[15:29] <[agatha]> ;d
[15:29] <[agatha]> (i know i am so helpful)
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> You could run the gnome network applet in KDE
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> nm-applet
[15:29] <arrrghhh> JontheEchidna, yea i thought about that...
[15:30] <[agatha]> it was some setting in a file similar to network.conf
[15:30] <[agatha]> something like that
[15:30] <arrrghhh> hrm
[15:31] <arrrghhh> iwconfig says the wireless extensions are enabled for eth1 in kde
[15:31] <arrrghhh> but when i'm in gnome (and connected to a network) it shows me more info (obviously)
[15:31] <arrrghhh> but this could get difficult as i can't get internet in kde lol
[15:31] <arrrghhh> i may just run nm-applet just to get by
[15:32] <[agatha]> worth a try
[15:32] <arrrghhh> i don't know how i'm going to troubleshoot it tho lol
[15:33] <[agatha]> i just cannot tell you anything further... i am really far of effective help... just things i remember here and there sorry
[15:33] <arrrghhh> lol
[15:33] <arrrghhh> were the 70's good to you?
[15:33] <[agatha]> i wasn't even born -.-
[15:34] <arrrghhh> lol
[15:34] <[agatha]> ^^
[15:34] <[agatha]> but the late 90's were great ;)
[15:34] <arrrghhh> well then some sort of time period where a lot of people were doing drugs
[15:35] <[agatha]> nah my memory is just selective i will never forget a nice dress in a shop or a cute guy's name
[15:35] <[agatha]> but... for computers... 10 minutes and it's out ;)
[15:35] <arrrghhh> wow a girl that uses linux?
[15:35] <arrrghhh> impressive
[15:35] <[agatha]> hymmm why :>
[15:35] <BluesKaj> well, the rumour mill is at work again ...Google Linux ,is on the horizon
[15:36] <[agatha]> just a second... 3 minutes to the end of the match where my favourite team is winning...i need to focus on the tv for a while ;)
[15:36] <arrrghhh> not may girls use linux on their own... kinda a niche thing.  i know girls that use linux, but they didn't set it up lol
[15:37] <[agatha]> lol i did setup my ubuntu first time, then my debian etch, then my debian lenny and then i am back to kubuntu to see what's going on ;)
[15:37] <[agatha]> just a lot of free time you know ;)
[15:38] <arrrghhh> lol i guess
[15:38] <noren_> which match
[15:38] <[agatha]> i dunno if everything works in my lappy then it's boring so i need to dig and try new things
[15:38] <[agatha]> gornik zabrze - lech poznan
[15:39] <[agatha]> just polish soccer league
[15:39] <arrrghhh> wow, sounds like me
[15:39] <[agatha]> nothing great but i like gornik :D
[15:39] <arrrghhh> my gf can't stand it lol
[15:39] <[agatha]> ahahah that's why you share pc probably... my pc is untouchable
[15:39] <[agatha]> my boyfriend has troubles to browse the web on it the poor thing :p
[15:40] <arrrghhh> lol
[15:40] <arrrghhh> well i have a lot of computers
[15:40] <arrrghhh> and my gf has her own lappy
[15:40] <arrrghhh> but she wants me to install linux on it.
[15:41] <[agatha]> heheh you need to make her believe she can do it herself ;) it's fun!!!
[15:42] <arrrghhh> she's not a nerd in the computer sense.
[15:42] <[agatha]> hmmm you think i was? i barely could find the start button in windows a year ago hehehhe
[15:43] <arrrghhh> well that's just a lot of time and a healthy desire to learn.  my gf is happy being an end-user, doesn't really care so long as it works.
[15:43] <[agatha]> yeah that's a point
[15:46] <justin__> hey do you guys know where i can find a good source list?
[15:46] <arrrghhh> justin__, of what?
[15:46] <justin__> i've only been using kubuntu for a couple of days, so i souldn't be real sure
[15:47] <justin__> couldn't
[15:47] <justin__> i don't really care, though
[15:47] <arrrghhh> uh you want the source to ubuntu?
[15:47] <arrrghhh> or kde?
[15:47] <justin__> bug fixes, updates
[15:47] <arrrghhh> or openoffice?
[15:47] <arrrghhh> what?
[15:47] <[agatha]> i think he wants repositories?
[15:47] <arrrghhh> the source of the bug fixes?
[15:47] <arrrghhh> it sounds like you don't want source code
[15:47] <justin__> ya repositories
[15:47] <arrrghhh> unless you understand C
[15:47] <justin__> ya that's what i mean
[15:47] <justin__> sorry
[15:47] <[agatha]> no problem justin__
[15:48] <[agatha]> but you should do fine with the default ones... i think
[15:48] <arrrghhh> justin__, the defaults should give you all bugfixes and updates.  now if you want media stuff, you need the medibuntu repos.
[15:48] <arrrghhh> !medibuntu
[15:50] <noren_> !ati
[15:50] <justin__> ya i know i've got obsolete drivers, but it's not telling me
[15:50] <justin__> i've got the nvidia 177 drivers i think
[15:50] <justin__> 10 is the latest though
[15:50] <justin__> 180*
[15:51] <justin__> how do i fix that?
[15:51] <stefodnb> Hi
[15:51] <stefodnb> I'm trying to connect my Nokia 3210 to my Kubuntu 8.04
[15:51] <stefodnb> using kbluetooth, my device (phone) is not found for pairing...
[15:52] <arrrghhh> justin__, i think 177 is the latest _linux_ drivers.  i could be wrong tho.  it really depends on your card.
[15:52] <stefodnb> and when searching for the PC from within the phone, it is not found either.
[15:52] <stefodnb> The bluetooth dongle is connected to the pc correctly. Any ideas?
[15:52] <noren_> stefodnb: check if the deviccce are set to be discoverable
[15:52] <stefodnb> noren_: Yes it is.
[15:53] <stefodnb> (Er and it's actually a Nokia 3120)
[15:54] <noren_> model dosnt matter u are trying to pair ur cell to laptop i guess
[15:54] <stefodnb> No, to a desktop PC
[15:55] <noren_> or desktop just check again i guess the fault is with the mobile or the desktop system see if there the bluetooth  is turned on and discoverable
[15:56] <stefodnb> I don't think it's a problem with the PC, because I just tried connecting to a coworker's phone and it worked all right.
[15:58] <stefodnb> Actually, it works now. I had a stupid mistake with the hostnames, thanks :)
[15:58] <justin__> what is medibuntu?
[15:59] <justin__> i'm looking at it here, but it doesn't really explain what it is..
[15:59] <arrrghhh> justin__, did you read what it said?  did you go to that site?
[16:00] <arrrghhh> !medibuntu
[16:00] <arrrghhh> that explains what it is...
[16:01] <afreq> hello
[16:01] <jfiala> hello all i need some help with Emacs is anyone out there who is good with Emacs and could help me
[16:01] <arrrghhh> jfiala, emacs unfortunately has nothing to do with kubuntu.
[16:02] <noren_> !hello | jfiala
[16:02] <antonio__> tony
[16:03] <jfiala> is there anywhere there anyone who could help me with it though? I am new to both kubuntu and everything but I need emacs for a class i am taking is there somewhere else i could go for help with emacs?
[16:03] <arrrghhh> jfiala, i don't know if there's a room for emacs...
[16:03] <arrrghhh> but this is for kubuntu.
[16:04] <BluesKaj> jfiala, how about #emacs
[16:04] <sourcemaker> what is the best application to download music podcasts?
[16:04] <jfiala> i just tried #emacs and it did not work it said unknown command
[16:05] <noren_> !best | sourcemaker
[16:05] <[agatha]> jfiala: i use amarok
[16:05] <[agatha]> but that's up to what you like
[16:05] <arrrghhh> jfiala, have you ever used irc?
[16:05] <jfiala> no I am new to this all
[16:05] <BluesKaj> jfiala, in the irc  server textbox type  /join #emacs
[16:06] <arrrghhh> jfiala, GOOGLE!!!
[16:06] <arrrghhh> seriously google will help with emacs
[16:06] <Guest13216> hi i install amarok 2.0.1.1 but i cant't listen to my mp3 what can i do?
[16:06] <arrrghhh> beginners should NOT come into irc chats asking for help with EVERYTHING.  it's annoying, and you probably will just end up getting flamed.
[16:06] <jfiala> alright thank you
[16:06] <arrrghhh> Guest13216, do you have the codec?
[16:07] <[agatha]> install the codecs most likely Guest13216
[16:07] <arrrghhh> ubuntu is not shipped with any proprietary codecs
[16:07] <BluesKaj> arrrghhh , maybe a bit more patience is required
[16:07] <[agatha]> i think gstreamer (all the packages you can find) should do
[16:07] <arrrghhh> BluesKaj, seriously?  when there's a ton of guides just waiting to be read?
[16:08] <arrrghhh> [agatha], no.
[16:08] <noren_> !avi | Guest13216
[16:08] <[agatha]> well works for me arrrghhh
[16:08] <arrrghhh> Guest13216, add the medibuntu repo, and install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" - give you everything you need.
[16:08] <arrrghhh> !medibuntu
[16:08] <BluesKaj> arrrghhh, even noobs especially don't know where to look most of the time
[16:08] <arrrghhh> [agatha], that meta-package has everything and more.
[16:08] <arrrghhh> BluesKaj, google?
[16:08] <noren_> [agatha]: u dont need gstreamer in kde
[16:09] <arrrghhh> if you google "emacs, how-to" i bet a TON of pages come up.
[16:09] <[agatha]> mmm noren_ i need it for listening to a online radio... but that's another story
[16:09] <noren_> [agatha]: dont u use amarok for that
[16:10] <[agatha]> nope noren_ i have never been able to find a way since it's not a playlist, just a website with an embedded player
[16:10] <BluesKaj> google sucks , unless one really knows how to search on it ...IMO google is becoming less relavent lately ..I find google frustrating to use lately
[16:10] <[agatha]> need totem and gstreamer to make it work,.. havent been able to make it work otherwise
[16:11] <noren_> BluesKaj; i agree it more often spit more garbage then knowledgeble material
[16:11] <[agatha]> but as i said that's another story
[16:11] <arrrghhh> BluesKaj, all search engines are frustrating since they search for everything within the page... but if you know how to use it, it's an extremely useful tool.  much more so than irc.  i come here when i can't figure out how to do something complex.  google usually helps with the rest.
[16:11] <[agatha]> arrrghhh:  you are assuming that people has a computer's knowledge from the begining...
[16:12] <arrrghhh> you don't need computer knowledge to search google.  sure it helps, but there's sites that even show you tricks on how to make the best of your google searches
[16:12] <[agatha]> i remember when i first joined a help channel, asked about how to deal with my partitions and someone said, man fstab
[16:12] <[agatha]> then i did and i thought OK but understood nothing at all
[16:12] <[agatha]> no but you need some knowledge to start and know what's good or what is not i think
[16:12] <[agatha]> but that's just my opinion
[16:13] <arrrghhh> sometimes man pages can be frustrating themselves.  some are helpful.
[16:13] <[agatha]> i havent found a single one which i've been able to understand (sic iptables)
[16:13] <arrrghhh> GOOGLE is good.  all hail GOOGLE lol.
[16:13] <[agatha]> hahah it is arrrghhh but not absolutely :)
[16:13] <arrrghhh> [agatha], well you're obviously smarter than i.
[16:13] <[agatha]> i don't think it's about being smart.
[16:14] <arrrghhh> i don't know how many times i've read the rsync man page...
[16:14] <[agatha]> hmm i just said i have not understood any of them at all yet :p
[16:14] <noren_> [agatha] arrrghhh: i come here because u usually find someone who had already had that prob and direct you to the right direction
[16:15] <arrrghhh> noren_, ditto, but i always search before i come in.
[16:15] <[agatha]> yeah noren_ but i think sometimes is even hard to understand what the right direction means (at least on my side)
[16:15] <arrrghhh> [agatha], i misread your statement lol
[16:15] <[agatha]> heheheh
[16:15] <[agatha]> maybe it was messed up
[16:16] <arrrghhh> no, i re-read it.
[16:16] <arrrghhh> it's fine, i'm messed up lol
[16:16] <noren_> well different opinionn but for surely toward a common goal
[16:16] <sourcemaker> can I download podcast with kget?
[16:16] <[agatha]> never tried sourcemaker... i'd rather use amarok, but as for kget i cannot tell yes or no
[16:19] <noren_> sourcemaker : depends if its available in the some audio formet and file
[16:21] <sourcemaker> [agatha]: now I have added the podcast url to amarok... but there is no download menu
[16:21] <[agatha]> hmmm sec i will screenshot something and send you
[16:21] <[agatha]> give me a minute
[16:22] <noren_> sourcemaker : use add stream in the amarok and it will update automatially
[16:23] <[agatha]> sourcemaker:  http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9602/podcast.png
[16:24] <[agatha]> if you see the folder "podcast" just below is the name of the podcast you added... if it does not update automatically right click and 'search for updates'
[16:24] <[agatha]> but it should be there
[16:30] <sourcemaker> [agatha]: it's in the list... but I can not download
[16:30] <[agatha]> hmmm tried right clicking on it and searching for updates?
[16:30] <[agatha]> it may be there, just collapsed... isnt there a + sign?
[16:30] <k0pp> ohai puddle
[16:30] <puddle> ohai
[16:30] <k0pp> puddle, have you booted into kubuntu yet
[16:30] <sourcemaker> [agatha]: I leave amarok now... after restarting amarok it can download now... but that's not the way I like to download big files :-)
[16:30] <[agatha]> heheh depends on how big... the ones i download are up to 1h of audio so not really huge
[16:30] <puddle> nope
[16:30] <sourcemaker> [agatha]: there is only a simple message: downloading... not more... and I think I can't resume that download after reboot
[16:30] <k0pp> puddle, why not
[16:30] <puddle> its installed
[16:30] <puddle> im on ISO
[16:30] <puddle> What next :D ?
[16:30] <k0pp> what
[16:30] <k0pp> ?
[16:30] <[agatha]> dont think so sourcemaker... never used it to pick big files
[16:31] <k0pp> puddle, you are on windows yes
[16:31] <puddle> yes
[16:31] <k0pp> reboot
[16:31] <k0pp> into kubuntu
[16:31] <puddle> how?
[16:31] <sourcemaker> [agatha]: damm... it's the same eith gpodder.. resume not possible :-)
[16:31] <k0pp> reboot
[16:31] <k0pp> select kubuntu when it asks windows or kubuntu
[16:31] <[agatha]> and the same with rythmbox (that's for gnome but also deals with podcasts)
[16:31] <puddle> ok
[16:32] <noren_> !podcaast | sourcemaker
[16:32] <noren_> !podcast | sourcemaker
[16:34] <noren_> puddle: first time llinux (Kubuntu) ??
[16:34] <sourcemaker> noren_: it's working right now...
[16:34] <noren_> sourcemaker : ok
[16:34] <beardbar> anyone have skype working on amd64 jaunty?
[16:34] <arrrghhh> did we ensure puddle's bios was set to boot from cd?  lol.
[16:35] <noren_> beardbar : #ubuntu+1
[16:36] <beardbar> join #ubuntu+1
[16:36] <sourcemaker> noren_: wget + copy past the links in kget :-)
[16:37] <noren_> sure i think its better option !!  sometime amarok stalls in between and dont reconnect
[16:37] <k0pp> ubuntu_, i assume you're puddle?
[16:38] <puddle> Ok i didnt see the option to run ubuntu :(
[16:38] <arrrghhh> puddle, you need to check your BIOS.  it needs to be set to boot from cd.
[16:39] <k0pp> puddle, ubuntu_ wasn't you?
[16:39] <k0pp> ;/
[16:39] <k0pp> puddle, it didnt have you select the OS to boot?
[16:39] <puddle> no
[16:40] <k0pp> ;/
[16:40] <k0pp> puddle, make an investment in some blank CD-R's
[16:41] <puddle> ok i think i've fixed it
[16:41] <k0pp> how so
[16:42] <justin__> man wth
[16:42] <justin__> is there any way i can just clock like one or 2 things and be done with medibuntu?
[16:43] <justin__> click*
[16:46] <k0pp> puddle, ?
[16:46] <puddle> yes
[16:46] <k0pp> what was the issue
[16:47] <puddle> alright k0pp
[16:47] <puddle> th main thing
[16:47] <puddle> is i have ubunu on my system yes?
[16:47] <puddle> I'm going to get some blank cds
[16:47] <k0pp> i dont nkow, you tell me
[16:47] <k0pp> that sounds like a good idea
[16:47] <k0pp> ;)
[16:48] <puddle> Wait
[16:48] <puddle> once i've got cds. Do i have to download it all again?
[16:48] <k0pp> no
[16:48] <justin__> how do i upgrade my kde from 3.5.10 to the newest?
[16:48] <puddle> or just burn it from power osi?
[16:48] <k0pp> yep
[16:48] <k0pp> :)
[16:49] <puddle> :)
[16:49] <puddle> ok cool
[16:49] <[agatha]> justin__:  wht would you like exactly to have from medibuntu?
[16:49] <k0pp> justin__, eeeek @ kde4 :(
[16:49] <puddle> thanks a lot k0pp see you around mate thanks for your time.
[16:49] <k0pp> personal opinion
[16:49] <k0pp> goodbye
[16:49] <justin__> i thought it would all come as a package
[16:49] <puddle> guys look after k0pp awesome guy
[16:49] <justin__> i got skype installed
[16:49] <k0pp> @_@
[16:49] <justin__> i'd like google earth but couldn't figre that out
[16:49] <k0pp> apparently i have a fan.
[16:50] <[agatha]> nice
[16:50] <k0pp> justin__ doesnt it come in a .deb?
[16:50] <[agatha]> i think it's techno time... trying to  explane my neighbour why his heavy metal is annoying
[16:50] <justin__> ya but it fails when i try to install GE 4.3
[16:50] <k0pp> what's the error message?
[16:50] <arrrghhh> justin__, it's a repo.  i'd recommend the kubuntu-restricted-extras for codecs, flash, java, etc.
[16:50] <justin__> 1 sec
[16:51] <k0pp> yes.  listen to arrrghhh. ;p
[16:51] <arrrghhh> google earth comes as a BIN file as i recall... must launch from cli.
[16:51] <k0pp> aahh
[16:51] <k0pp> the only time i had it working a year or so ago, i thought it was in a .deb
[16:51] <justin__> it says it failed to install and there were erroros while processing the deb
[16:52] <justin__> and it says a bunch of unknown media types
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[16:52] <k0pp> [10:50] <arrrghhh> justin__, it's a repo.  i'd recommend the kubuntu-restricted-extras for codecs, flash, java, etc.
[16:52] <k0pp> might help
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> justin__: if you canpastebin the command and the errors it wil help
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[16:53] <arrrghhh> last i installed google earth it was a BIN file.  just ./*.bin from cli.  should even launch a gui window that shows how the install is going.
[16:53] <justin__> i have the restricted extras installed too
[16:53] <justin__> version 25
[16:53] <justin__> nut ok
[16:53] <justin__> but ok
[16:53] <arrrghhh> justin__, what is the problem?
[16:55] <justin__> (Reading database ... 120452 files and directories currently installed.)
[16:55] <justin__> Unpacking googleearth-4.3 (from .../googleearth-4.3_4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3_amd64.deb) ...
[16:55] <justin__> googleearth-eula could not be presented
[16:55] <justin__> try 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' to select a frontend other than noninteractive
[16:55] <justin__> dpkg: error processing /home/justin/Desktop/googleearth-4.3_4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3_amd64.deb (--install):
[16:55] <justin__>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'fonts/package'
[16:55] <justin__> Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'
[16:55] <justin__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:55] <justin__>  /home/justin/Desktop/googleearth-4.3_4.3.7284.3916-0medibuntu3_amd64.deb
[16:55] <justin__> that's what it says
[16:56] <arrrghhh> justin__, please dl google earth DIRECTLY from google.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> justin__: use pastebin, thats why ubotu gave the link
[16:56] <arrrghhh> earth.google.com
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> justin__: sudo apt-get install googleearth
[16:57] <arrrghhh> i wouldn't install earth from any repo.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> !info googleearth-4.3
[16:57] <arrrghhh> but that's me.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> !info googleearth
[16:57] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip is proving my point lol
[16:58] <arrrghhh> earth.google.com, get it from the SOURCE.
[16:58] <arrrghhh> they're up to 5.0 on their site
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: well why not get new kernels from www.kernel.org
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: i'm sure you use kernels in debs
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: www.kernel.org is the SOURCE
[16:59] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, depends on the package
[16:59] <arrrghhh> kernel, i get from repos
[16:59] <arrrghhh> OOo, from the source
[16:59] <arrrghhh> firefox, repos
[16:59] <arrrghhh> depends on the package.
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: why not use the source then? same mindset
[16:59] <arrrghhh> most stuff i get from the repos, but some is just not good to get from the repos.
[16:59] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, it depends on the package.
[16:59] <justin__> ok i'm downloading the bin from google earth
[16:59] <justin__> what do i do with it?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> i'd use packaged googleearth as it makes uninstallation easier
[17:00] <BluesKaj> I'm running google earth as root cuz the new version won't run directly from the desktop or Kmenu on my setup... I guess cuz it's a beta release
[17:00] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, whatever.  i'm out.  i can't argue about this anymore.
[17:00] <arrrghhh> time to go snowmobiling!
[17:01] <BluesKaj> use run command and enter kdesudo googleearth
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: did you run the installer as user or root?
[17:02] <justin__> ok so i downloaded googleearth-linux-plus-4.3.7284.3916.bin from google, what do i do with this .bin file?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip , i guess i used the sudo dpkg -i command
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: if you run the bin as user then users can run it
[17:04] <BluesKaj> I tried that but the globe won't open, the app opens with no globe or access in the Fly to box
[17:05] <BluesKaj> prolly cuz of kde4.2
[17:06] <BluesKaj> oops , because of
[17:07] <tuxi_tx> BluesKaj: are you using desktop effects on ATI?
[17:08] <tuxi_tx> I do a "sudo googleearth-linux-plus-4.3.7284.3916.bin" to install google earth
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> tuxi_tx: run it as user so users can run it
[17:09] <tuxi_tx> actually, normal users have no problem running google earth
[17:10] <tuxi_tx> that's an installation binary
[17:10] <BluesKaj> I don't have problem really I just run from the run command box , that's all
[17:12] <tuxi_tx> BluesKaj: you aren't getting the globe?
[17:13] <santtu> #ubuntu-suomi
[17:14] <Tm_T> !fi | santtu
[17:20] <BluesKaj> tuxi_tx , no globe in the user version , it works only if I'm root
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> http://dreamlinuxforums.org/index.php?topic=3021.0
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> try: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.config
[17:35] <StR|Sangreal> hello
[17:38] <noren__> hello
[17:39] <deniseweird> hello
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> hello
[17:40] <StR|Sangreal> :)
[17:41] <StR|Sangreal> i wanted to ask if there is a simp way how to download youtube vid and convert to mp3
[17:45] <noren__> StR|Sangreal: try www.pwnyoutube.com
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> !info youtube-dl
[17:50] <deniseweird> is anyone here using OSS4?
[17:50] <deniseweird> i got this error :S
[17:50] <deniseweird> ruti@ruti-desktop:~$ sudo soundon
[17:50] <deniseweird> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[17:50] <deniseweird> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[17:50] <deniseweird> WARNING: Error inserting osscore (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/osscore.ko): Invalid module format
[17:50] <deniseweird> FATAL: Error inserting oss_ich (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/oss_ich.ko): Invalid module format
[17:50] <deniseweird> Loading module oss_ich failed - ignored
[17:50] <deniseweird> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[17:50] <deniseweird> WARNING: Error inserting osscore (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/osscore.ko): Invalid module format
[17:50] <deniseweird> FATAL: Error inserting oss_usb (/lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/oss/oss_usb.ko): Invalid module format
[17:50] <deniseweird> Loading module oss_usb failed - ignored
[17:51] <deniseweird> if anyone knows a fix please help
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> deniseweird: use pastebin in future
[17:52] <deniseweird> (using jaunty btw)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty  deniseweird
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | deniseweird
[17:53] <deniseweird> thanks
[18:02] <StR|Sangreal> hi. pls what SW would you recommend me to use for simple video/music format conversion?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: ffmpeg
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> mencoder
[18:07] <StR|Sangreal> thanks
[18:09] <nathanlee> hello
[18:10] <nathanlee> anyone here that can help me with a permissions problem editing the apt/sources.list?
[18:12] <DasEi> ﻿ nathanlee: use gksudo
[18:13] <StR|Sangreal> pls how can i assign a shortcut to 1. opening the start menu 2. launching konsole?
[18:15] <dougiel> )
[18:17] <peace> hey without kwin effects can i get transparent pannel on kde4?
[18:20] <DreadKnight> woot! awesome live drawing stream (amsg sry :D ) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/art-of-kasia88
[18:22] <aguitel> how Schedule Tasks Using Gnome-schedule (A cron & at GUI) in KUbuntu ?
[18:23] <Zehava> My sound is not working and I can't figure out why.  When I turn the box off I get the shutdown sound, but amarok, youtube, nothing else will produce any sounds.  Looking at Amarok right now it shows that it's playing but no sound from the speakers.  Any suggestions?
[18:24] <Zehava> and I have everything in the mixer turned up to max
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[18:33] <mike> how do i install nvidia x drivers to my system?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> mike_: quit name changing
[18:34] <mike_> sorry
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> mike_: what is the outpput of: lspci | grep -i vga
[18:34] <Guest80919> i have no clue
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest80919: then run the command in terminal
[18:35] <Guest80919> how do i do that?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest80919: i gave you the command on purpose, run terminal, paste the command in
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest80919: then copy the output and paste it here (its ok as its a single line)
[18:36] <Guest80919> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> cool
[18:36] <Guest80919> thats what i got
[18:37] <Guest80919> whats next?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest80919: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:38] <Guest80919> next?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest80919: press ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest80919: login and run gksudo nvidia-xconfig
[18:43] <Silver_blacK> hi all
[18:43] <ravimaddula> hi
[18:44] <ravimaddula> any  one
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> hi
[18:46] <ravimaddula> hello
[18:47] <Artie_Ephem> Hi, can someone help me determine why I can't get kgrubeditor to run? Adept shows it as being installed, I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling it, and have also attempted to run it in a terminal, but it can't find the binary as far as I can tell
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> uninstall/reinstalling - is 'windows thinking'
[18:49] <ravimaddula> hi iam using vm for guest os
[18:50] <Artie_Ephem> Dr_Willis: ha sorry, I've removed and re installed the package
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> Artie_Ephem,  thats still thinking in 'windows terms'
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> remove/reinstalling stuff rarey does anything
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> in theory the reinstall should be identical to the first one
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> from looking at the files kgrubeditor installs.. i thinkits putting an icon in the control panels somewhere
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> i dont see a stand alone binary in synaptic for it
[18:52] <ravimaddula> how to install my .exe file  in my os
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> ravimaddula,  use wine whatever.exe
[18:54] <ravimaddula> i have installed the demon tools but its not showing any thing '...how can i find
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> ravimaddula,  you mean that ISO mounting software daemmon-tools - used to let you play copy protected games and stuff?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> ravimaddula: in VMs you can mount ISOs in the VM setup
[18:56] <kuaera> Wow. Kubuntu Jaunty is really coming apart D:
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> ravimaddula: plus daemontools is full of spyware
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> thats the first ive heard that ActionParsnip  :) but ive not used it in years
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> I much perfer to find no-cd cracks   for my legally bought games.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: magicdisk is clean
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> but i dont use windows for anyting outside my work laptop
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> daemontools isone of the worst named programs ive ever seen also :)
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. what is the command to launch the kde4 control-panel thing  - i cant rember
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> systemsettings
[18:58] <kuaera> I cannot access my network:/ or trash:/ locations in Jaunty anymore :(
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> !jaunty
[18:58] <kuaera> I know, Dr_Willis. I'm just miffed.
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip,  that cant be right!  thers no K in the front of it :)
[18:58] <kuaera> I don't know why they'd suddenly change protocols.
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> they are breaking the kde standards heh.
[18:58] <Artie_Ephem> Dr_Willis: I've looked through all the control panels and don't see it in there. I did have it in 8.04, it installed the icon )but after doing a fresh install of 8.10 here I can't seem to get it to
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: i know, thew me at first
[18:59] <maxbaldwin> hey, question
[18:59] <maxbaldwin> Does this look like normal output for k3b?
[18:59] <maxbaldwin> especially where it says /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted (line 13-ish)
[18:59] <maxbaldwin> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/131692/
[18:59] <ravimaddula> how can i access mobile internet using bluetooth lan
[19:00] <maxbaldwin> erm, line 18 actually.
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> and thers the kgrub editor tool -- Systemsettings -> advanced tab
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> now who was looking for it  i forget
[19:00] <Artie_Ephem> Dr_Willis: dang, fat-fingered that -- I can't remember where it installed the icon, though I'm thinking utilities...
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Artie_Ephem,  :) system settings -> advanced tab.. bottom of the page
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> now IF it works - i dont know
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> I manually edit my grub menus
[19:02] <Artie_Ephem> Dr_Willis: oh silly me, yes it is there-- maybe that is where I saw it originally...  :)  many thanks!
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> hmm that tool DOES have some neat features
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> backup/restore, change colors.. nifty
[19:03] <Artie_Ephem> Dr_Willis: yes, I used it before and it worked great
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> of course grub configuration is rather.... simple :) once ya learn how it works
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> its shen the system/hardware gets confuseing it gets harder
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> drives jumping around devvice names, ide+sata+usb  and so on...
[19:06] <Artie_Ephem> right
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> now a tool like that for the console - that beginner users could use from a live cd to repair a system would be handier
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> or did the livecd now have something like that?
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> i dont pay much attention to the helper tools these days
[19:07] <Artie_Ephem> that would be awesome
[19:08] <Artie_Ephem> I don't believe it does, not that I saw anyway
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> iver seen some distros with such tools..
[19:09] <tmeixner_> is there a way to restart plasma in a running KDE session?
[19:09] <deniseweird> kquitapp plasma
[19:09] <deniseweird> plasma
[19:09] <ravimaddula> my blue tooth is not detecting ...tell  me best tool '
[19:10] <ravimaddula> as iam using usbtype
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> is kde4+bluetooth even working at all yet?
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> there were some bugs with it
[19:10] <ravimaddula> can i onfigure PAN
[19:10] <ravimaddula> WITH THAT
[19:11] <tmeixner_> thx deniseweird, but it returns g.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> I have no idea what you just asked..
[19:12] <deniseweird> ohh :S sorry i don't know then
[19:12] <ravimaddula> personal area network
[19:13] <tmeixner_> np deniseweird, maybe it
[19:13] <tmeixner_> 's just this session.
[19:13] <deniseweird> maybe
[19:14] <deniseweird> try restarting kde then
[19:24] <unforgiven> Hi, I have a problem. After installing Amarok2 and scanning my music I have all ID3 tags corrupted... They are shaked!
[19:25] <unforgiven> I mean that in ID3 tag Artist I have "Lordi" but realy it's Madonna...
[19:34] <danilo> as
[19:42] <tmeixner> hi, can you play files on a smb share in amarok on kubuntu 8.10? I'm testing it on 9.04 and it doesn't work.
[19:44] <trappist> tmeixner: if you mount the share, amarok shouldn't have any idea that it's not local
[19:45] <DasEi> tmeixner: havent tried on jaunty, but I'd mount the smb locally, then you can play them (maybe set the right permission)
[19:45] <DasEi> !samba
[19:45] <DasEi> !nfs
[19:46] <tmeixner> trappist: that's what I thought too, I can see the files, copy them in Dolphin but I can't play them in amarok.
[19:47] <tmeixner> I just wanted to confirm before filing a bugreport whether this is only a problem on jaunty.
[19:47] <DasEi> tmeixner: try vlc ?
[19:48] <DasEi> !jaunty
[19:49] <tmeixner> DasEi: good idea, let's see how that works.
[19:49] <DasEi> tmeixner: sudo apt-get install vlc
[19:49] <andrew__> hey, big problem with plasma here. it crashes on startup. no idea what to try, i've tried reinstalling, but for some reason aptitude can't do it
[19:50] <coga> Can you help me with installation Skype into Ubuntu 8
[19:51] <tmeixner> coga - do you know whether you are on 32 or 64 bit?
[19:51] <coga> 32
[19:51] <DasEi> tmeixner: also sudo chown the mount-folder to regular user and check smbconfig (permission)
[19:52] <DasEi> thoug if you can copy, erm
[19:52] <coga> thanks
[19:52] <tmeixner> then it's easy - just download the .deb archive for ubuntu from skype and save it to your desktop. Then double click it to start the installation.
[19:53] <coga> ok .deb archiv, yes
[19:53] <tmeixner> coga: don't doubleclick the file in the download window of your browser, that won't work.
[19:53] <Tm_T> root: are we rooted now?
[19:53] <coga> itˇs my failure in opera browser
[19:53] <coga> I start from Opera
[19:53] <coga> I test your promise
[19:54] <tmeixner> DasEi: I'm on jaunty so there are still some bugs
[19:54] <coga> thanks
[19:54] <DasEi> tmeixner: is why thought of vlc
[19:54] <DasEi> is not a beta
[19:55] <Hancok> can any one tell me a verygood and free ext3 filesystem recovery app to recover my deleted or formated files/data ?
[19:55] <tmeixner> I've been using jaunty 5 days now. Since the alpha 6 it's actually quite usable with occasional crashes.
[19:55]  * DasEi is off for now
[19:55] <Tm_T> tmeixner: and possible dataloss <3
[19:56] <wewe> anybody can help me what to do if, pulseaudio recognize, my soundcard's capture, but it doesn't capture any sound?
[19:56] <joshjtl> hi
[19:56] <wewe> hi
[19:56] <joshjtl> anyone know if there is any way i can have opera select the entire address line/and or the search line with a single click instead of with double click?
[19:56] <Tm_T> socceroos: hi
[19:56] <joshjtl> or maybe a way to get a clear address bar button next to the address bar?
[19:56] <tmeixner> I don't have any important data on my laptop, it's all on the network. but what's the story with dataloss Tm_T
[19:56] <Tm_T> tmeixner: it's always possible with alpha software
[19:57] <Tm_T> and known to happen
[19:57] <wewe> anybody can help me what to do if, pulseaudio recognize, my soundcard's capture, but it doesn't capture any sound?
[19:57] <tmeixner> ok, I know. I thought you were talking about a specific bug.
[19:58] <Hancok> can any one tell me a verygood and free ext3 filesystem recovery app to recover my deleted or formated files/data ?
[19:58] <Tm_T> tmeixner: my point is, don't glorify alpha releases and definately don't recommend one for other users unless you're really sure and ready to make responsibility if and when something happens (;)
[19:59] <tmeixner> Tm_T: point taken, so let me get back into ubuntu+1 :-)
[20:00] <Hancok> windows have many  app for fat32 and ntfs. why not ext3?
[20:11] <doleyb> Hancok: microsoft doesn't like to support ext3, because it helps people switch to linux
[20:36] <vega_> Hello.  I need some help getting my USB headset to work.
[20:37] <vega_> When I go into the sound manager and do all the tests there, everything works
[20:37] <vega_> But when I try to play any sound in any application, it doesn't do anything
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> so the sound manager test sounds work.. but  what other apps dont work?
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> does the sound come out ofthe normal speakers?
[20:55] <spectre> hi I have ATI graphic card and ubuntu 8.10. I can see fglrx driver here... Not activated... but if I click to activate, it won't do anything... any ideas?
[20:56] <slow-motion> hi
[20:56] <Spectre> !fglrx
[20:58] <joshjtl> does opera have addons?
[20:58] <vega_> Hi.  I need to find a way to disable the menu that pops up when you hold alt and right click.  But I have no idea how to do that.  Can someone tell me?
[20:58] <devilsadvocate> joshjtl, not really they have something called widgets, i think, that do some of the stuff addons do
[20:59] <joshjtl> thx
[21:02] <sdf2> hi
[21:02] <noren__> !mencode
[21:02] <sdf2> where can i set sound devices inside kde?
[21:02] <noren__> !memcode
[21:03] <sdf2> like gnome>system>sound
[21:03] <joshjtl> does anyone know what google chrome uses, qt, gtk?
[21:04] <noren__> joshjtl: is it available in linux
[21:04] <joshjtl> noren__:  i know... thats why i asked :/
[21:05] <noren__> joshjtl: then it does not matter, use wine
[21:05] <joshjtl> noren__: uh it matters to me...
[21:05] <joshjtl> and why would you use wine if its available for linux
[21:06] <noren__> joshjtl: i thought its not available
[21:06] <joshjtl> no it is i'm just asking if it uses gtk or qt because i want to know
[21:08] <doleyb> joshjtl: i don't think chrome uses any gui toolkit.
[21:08] <joshjtl> doleyb: it has to
[21:09] <doleyb> joshjtl: why would it have to?
[21:12] <sixofour> .
[21:12] <sixofour> i have to register with nickserv to speak in #ubuntu ?
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> proberly have to register/identify - yes
[21:13] <sixofour> ugh that is gay
[21:13] <sixofour> since when?
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> no idea. and  always have identified/regiesterd
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> so whatever..
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> do it or not.
[21:15] <noren__> sixofour: so that no other 604 can take ur name
[21:15] <sixofour> i know the value of identify
[21:15] <sixofour> i don't know why it became mandatory over night
[21:16] <Alphonse> Hi everyone!!
[21:17] <noren__> sixofour: did u had to identify becausse i didnt today
[21:17] <Alphonse> help needed here... I got the error 21 while loading Grub, it means that I`ve lost all my info in my HDD??
[21:17] <sixofour> i'm not even registered
[21:18] <sixofour> ...or am i?!?!
[21:18] <shane> yes, it is gone
[21:18] <Alphonse> really??
[21:18] <sixofour> nope, not regiostered
[21:18] <s0le> no, im sorry.
[21:18] <s0le> :)
[21:18] <Alphonse> is tere anyway to restore it, or should be a full reinstall?
[21:18] <Alphonse> there* (sorry)
[21:19] <s0le> have you tried booting from the install cd?
[21:19] <s0le> there is a fix broken os button option i think
[21:19] <s0le> alphonse
[21:19] <sixofour> so i got a .tar.bz2 how do i use it?
[21:19] <Alphonse> yep, it  recognizes the partition, but that all...
[21:20] <s0le> look and see if there is a reinstall or repair option?
[21:20] <Alphonse> I mean: I not sure about how to mount the grub again,
[21:20] <s0le> im pretty sure there is
[21:20] <Alphonse> yes, I was reading about it. but I havent found the way, yet...
[21:21] <Alphonse> I read that going again for "installation" without formatting thep artition is an option...
[21:21] <s0le> here is a relevant article alphonse http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html#21
[21:21] <Alphonse> you think it will work'
[21:22] <s0le> it totally should work
[21:22] <Alphonse> okee, let see.
[21:22] <noren__> !grub | Alphonse
[21:22] <s0le> just like windows, if you dont format, nothing is erased
[21:22] <Alphonse> jejje
[21:22] <Alphonse> nice to hear that! ;)
[21:22] <s0le> ewwww   i said the W word...
[21:22]  * s0le flails himself into the pavement
[21:22] <s0le> onto even
[21:23] <Alphonse> jojo
[21:23] <sixofour> so i got a .tar.bz2 how do i use it?
[21:23] <Alphonse> dont worry, I almost reinstall that one last noght!! eeeww!!
[21:23] <s0le> resist....
[21:24] <Alphonse> yeeah!
[21:24] <Alphonse> linux all the way!!
[21:24] <s0le> maybe with wine
[21:24] <Alphonse> is there any way to use this super grub witout copying to a CD??
[21:25] <s0le> probably if you have a flash drive you could use it instead
[21:25] <Alphonse> okee
[21:30] <noren__> !opendns
[21:36] <schiste> Hi my laptop just shutted down twice without any reasons
[21:36] <schiste> do you have any idea of log I could look at ?
[21:36] <schiste> syslog doesn't return anything of interest I think
[21:37] <SlimeyPete> you could check dmesg
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> schiste: check in dmesg
[21:37] <SlimeyPete> it might just have overheated, though
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> schiste: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxLogFiles
[21:38] <schiste> SlimeyPete: crashed on start up :)
[21:43] <schiste> third time
[21:43] <Alphonse> thnks a lot s0le and ubottu!! Ill be back when restart get complete...
[21:43] <Alphonse> see ya!!
[21:44] <schiste> ...
[21:44] <schiste> Now I'm really worried
[21:44] <alumno0> Hallo. What do I have to install to play an audio CD in Kubuntu 8.04 with amarok?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> alumno0: insert cd, Engage -> play audio cd
[21:49] <alumno0> ActionParsnip: When I insert the cd, I'm asked to play with some program. I choose Amarok, but it says thats there's not the needed plugin
[21:54] <slow-motion> n8
[21:55] <schiste> Hmmm no one would have any idea where to look to, at least, identify why my laptop is shutting down ?
[21:56] <alumno0> Have you look to the system messages?
[21:56] <whtvr> hi all
[21:56] <doleyb> schiste: it was suggested maybe it overheated.  That's most likely if it had been running a while first.  To check that theory, use ksensors
[21:56] <whtvr> quick question, how do i remove those arrow emblems from links (shortcuts) in kde 4.2?
[21:57] <schiste> doleyb: as I said it shutted down 2minutes after start up
[21:58] <schiste> alumno0: wich one?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> alumno0: hmm, let me websearch
[21:59] <schiste> (seems firefox is the reason why it shutted down)
[21:59] <schiste> (I mean it crashed only after I launched FF)
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> alumno0: sudo adduser $USER cdrom
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> alumno0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+bug/121177
[22:00] <alumno0> I'm going to read the link...
[22:00] <alumno0> alumno0 belongs to the admin group.
[22:03] <alumno0> and also belongs to cdrom...
[22:06] <akis> hello kubuntu world
[22:08] <larry> sudo adeptget what ?to unfrezz manager
[22:09] <lutiusveratius> hello,I have problem with codecs
[22:09] <lutiusveratius> anyone here?
[22:09] <larry> not sure
[22:09] <BluesKaj> lutiusveratius, which codecs ?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> !codecs
[22:10] <lutiusveratius> BluesKaj : for playing music,videos
[22:10] <larry> my adept manager frozes up again
[22:10] <larry> whats the command
[22:10] <BluesKaj> !restricted-codecs
[22:11] <larry> i need tp unlock mt adept manger
[22:12] <larry> anyone know the sudo commannd?
[22:12] <p_quarles> larry: what error message are you getting?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> larry: i know it well
[22:13] <BluesKaj> larry, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:13] <larry> i was installing a progran from add and remove ,wen it didnt finish rigth and locked it up
[22:13] <lutiusveratius> and I have another question...I've tried to update Amarok,followed instrucitons on their web page,but was not succesful...any advice?
[22:13] <BluesKaj> then remove broken dependencies
[22:14] <BluesKaj> 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[22:14] <p_quarles> larry: again, what was the error message? paraphrasing doesn't help
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[22:15] <lutiusveratius> BluesKaj : do you have some advice about updating amarok?
[22:15] <BluesKaj> lutiusveratius, which amarok version /
[22:16] <lutiusveratius> !amarok
[22:16] <lutiusveratius> BluesKaj : I want to upade it to 2.02 or something like that...
[22:16] <lutiusveratius> 2.0.2
[22:16] <BluesKaj> you'll regret it
[22:17] <lutiusveratius> ?
[22:17] <lutiusveratius> why?not stable,or something like that?
[22:17] <BluesKaj> IMO, it looks fancy but it drops a lot of important info about streams
[22:18] <BluesKaj> it's ok for playing music files on your HDD
[22:18] <lutiusveratius> I use amarok mostly for streams
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> i find amarok 2 a lot bloated
[22:19] <lutiusveratius> hm...so,you both think that it's not good idea to upgrade amarok,right?
[22:19] <jordi_> hi
[22:19] <jordi_> the best web browser for kubuntu 8.10??
[22:20] <BluesKaj> same here , there's no bitrate indicator ,  so I dropped back to the kde3.5 version ...I refuse to listen to anything under 128 kbs, and even then it's hard to take sometimes
[22:20] <EagleScreen> jordi_ the best is firefox/abrowser I think
[22:20] <BluesKaj> amarok 1.4 something , I think
[22:21] <jordi_> and Opera?
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> use what you like
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> I perfer firefox
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> Opera is a close 2nd
[22:21] <jordi_> ok
[22:21] <jordi_> thx
[22:22] <EagleScreen> Opera also is good, but it is not Free Software, and Firefox is the best in my opinion
[22:22] <EagleScreen> Konqueror and Arora browsers will work much better in Kubuntu 9.04
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> OPera is killer :D
[22:22] <jordi_> kubuntu 9.04??
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> firefox bloats way too quickly with multiple tabs
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | jordi_
[22:23] <EagleScreen> Kubuntu 9.04 will be released in April
[22:23] <jordi_> ok
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> EagleScreen: http://home.comcast.net/~SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html
[22:23] <BluesKaj> lutiusveratius, there's no advantage using amarok2 , it's still in dev stages , not ready for primetime .
[22:23] <jordi_> but firefox sees badly
[22:24] <EagleScreen> you can make firefox to see beauty using package gtk-qt-engine
[22:24] <lutiusveratius> BluesKaj : yeah,I see that...and I'll wait for it
[22:25] <BluesKaj> lutiusveratius, good :)
[22:25] <lutiusveratius> BluesKaj : I have tried Amarok 2 on Mandrive 2009 few times,was stable there,but too much info displayed was not good for me
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> mandriva is badass
[22:25] <jordi_> And will not letters meet blurry with it?
[22:25] <lutiusveratius> Mandriva*
[22:26] <lutiusveratius> ActionParsnip : yup,I didn't liked it
[22:26] <EagleScreen> amarok2 will be usable and stable in kubuntu 9.04, but it still has some missing features
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> lutiusveratius: thats wy there are multiple distros
[22:28] <jordi_> ok, thanks all
[22:28] <jordi_> bye
[22:36] <CoJaBo> Why is it that Kubuntu seems to install an extension that horribly breaks Firefox?
[22:36] <johnrw> which extension?
[22:37] <CoJaBo> It was something like Ubuntu extras, forget the exact name.
[22:37] <BluesKaj> kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[22:37] <CoJaBo> No, it was a Firefox extension.
[22:38] <alex---> buenas
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> i dont reecall kubuntu installing ANY firefox extensions.. since it dosent even include firefox
[22:39] <BluesKaj> well open FF and look at the extensions installed , and try eliminating them one by one til, it works
[22:39] <johnrw> Dr_Willis: I was thinking the same thing...
[22:39]  * johnrw firing up the vm and checking
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> there are those extensions one can install system wide.. but i never use those in the package manager
[22:40] <CoJaBo> When installed via the package manager, it installed the extension along with FF. Disabling the Ubuntu extension fixed it, just was wondering what it was supposed to do?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu extension - adds a entry or 2 to the help menu i recall
[22:41] <BluesKaj> only one i have is called Ubuntu Firefox Modifications
[22:41] <CoJaBo> That sounds like it.
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> yep  - thats the only one i got - i looked itup  once. it just tweaks the menus I think
[22:41] <BluesKaj> anyway BBL ...dinnertime
[22:43] <EagleScreen> Firefox extension is in ubufox package, install Firefox without ubufox package and ready
[22:45] <johnrw> it seems to have about five extensions in a default install... one to hijaack the $Homepage
[22:45] <johnrw> oh christ... those are recommended addons...
[22:46] <astrobear> "Install these packages without verification [y/N]?" how can i prevent this message from appearing?
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> i dont see 5 extensions added here... there are some in the repos you can install.
[22:46] <astrobear> it's the neon nightly builds
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> install the gpg key i think astrobear  for that repo
[22:47] <johnrw> Dr_Willis: what I thought were already installed, turned out to be recommended addons...
[22:47] <astrobear> how? :)
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> astrobear,  check the repo homepage/docs i guess..  they may tell ya where they are at
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> or the apt-get guides
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[22:48] <astrobear> thank you
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> reccommended is not required. :) the pakcage  manager may be set to install reccomended as well.
[22:49] <johnrw> nah... it was because I have never seen the "recommended addons" UI before... and thought to myself..... what is all this crap???
[22:51] <johnrw> now i know about the new "recommended addons" "feature"
[22:54] <johnrw> ok... anyone using the project-neon nightly builds?
[22:54] <CoJaBo> lol
[23:03] <shawn_> Hi anyone able to get Amarok 2 working with an ipod in intrepid?
[23:06] <knusperfrosch> how do i restore my home dir to the default home dir you get on a fresh installation?
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> rm /home/whoever
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> cp /etc/skel /home/whoever   (i think)
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> thenchown it all to be owned by the user
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> and tehrs not a lot in /etc/skel :)
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> so in short.. delete evverything. copy files from /etc/skel
[23:08] <hix> hehe
[23:08] <knusperfrosch> so who created the default folders? kde?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> yes
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> if you just want to reset the kde stuff.. thees the .kde* dirs you can delete
[23:25] <arrrghhh> well using nm-applet works.  just seems silly.
[23:32] <arrrghhh> anyone know how to refresh gtk styles?  i'm trying to get firefox to not look like crap in kde4.
[23:32] <arrrghhh> i keep closing and reopening firefox, but the style doesn't change.
[23:35] <arrrghhh> uhm
[23:35] <arrrghhh> anybody alive?
[23:36] <pelle_k> yep
[23:36] <arrrghhh> lol ok
[23:36] <arrrghhh> good to know
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[23:39] <hix> seems this is loaded at kde start, try restart kde
[23:40] <arrrghhh> ah
[23:40] <arrrghhh> yea i was worried i'd have to restart kde
[23:40] <arrrghhh> bummer
[23:41] <arrrghhh> thanks, i'll try that.  i wanted to play around with themes, this will make it difficult...
[23:56] <antonio_> hello, someone speak french
[23:57] <arrrghhh> !fr | antonio_
[23:57] <goofey> arrrghhh: beat me to it!  :)
[23:57] <arrrghhh> hehe
[23:57] <ads> How can i configure "konsole" to always start with the same height/width? Rignt now it's starting with the last used resolution. Also changing the "advanced" option for this program does not help.
[23:58] <arrrghhh> ads, well i don't know if you can set it in konsole, but in kde you can set how you want any window to open - you can set it on a per-window basis.