[00:20] <bcurtiswx> nvm.. i somehow ended up on really old revisions
[00:23] <imachine> sup, any news on when will the nvidia driver update?
[00:23] <imachine> it's not being difficult, but it brings slight issues, and I hear the new version fixes some of them.
[00:24] <imachine> also, improves performance greatly. in 2d at least - or so a friend of mine mentioned, he's using a quadro mobile.
[00:24] <imachine> or whatever they put into the thinkpad laptops.
[00:35] <BUGabundo> YoBoY: don't forget to mark as incomplete
[00:36] <BUGabundo> so other QA users can close it latter if now new input
[01:36] <stpere> hi
[01:55] <Hew> hi stpere
[02:01] <bcurtiswx> anyone know the main package for qt?
[02:04] <rww> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/343006 should be set to importance:wishlist, right? since I can't do that, do I just leave it along and let someone else deal with it?
[02:05] <dtchen> rww: set.
[02:05] <bcurtiswx> dang chen... your fast
[02:05] <rww> dtchen: thanks :). what should the status be? new? confirmed?
[02:12] <hggdh> rww, confirmed, and to triaged after opening an upstream task
[02:18] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: for bug #342633 which deals with notify-osd, what can a triager do other than the uname -a and apt-cache policy and steps to reproduce?
[02:22] <bcurtiswx> im not sure if its close enough to other bugs to dup it either
[03:03] <hggdh> let me see
[03:07] <hggdh> bcurtiswx, if you can reproduce it, then all is good; otherwise, we need to ask the reporter to really specify the steps. I personaly am not even sure of what notify-osd does
[08:28] <YoBoY> good morning
[10:57] <rww> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-games/+bug/342958 can be set to triaged/wishlist. Thanks :)
[13:47] <sectech> bug 313439 was flagged as high by a triager over-riding my "wishlist" that I had marked it as, can someone review the bug and it's comments and provide feedback please
[15:41] <mcnicholls> hi
[15:41] <mcnicholls> would this be the channel to get some help with submitting a patch for a bug?
[15:44] <jpds> Yes, hi. :)
[15:46] <mcnicholls> hey
[15:46] <mcnicholls> i am new to this, but would like to help and a certain bug is driving me and a lot of other people mad ;-)
[15:46] <mcnicholls> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tsclient/+bug/270374
[15:46] <mcnicholls> oooo thats nice
[15:47] <mcnicholls> anyway there has been a simple source patch posted which has been suggested upstream, but it doesn't look like it gets released often, so my question is:
[15:47] <mcnicholls> can i submit a debdiff for that patch for inclusion in jaunty until  it is fixed upstream?
[16:34] <vocx> Ubuntu 8.10, I have the Disk Mounter applet in my top panel. I have an Audio disk mounted. If I click on it and select Play CD the "Disk Mounter" applet quits and I can choose to reload it. Anybody can try this on their system?
[16:35] <vocx> I believe the applets are just a bunch of *.so files, so the bug may be with the applet itself and not "gnome-panel" as a whole.
[16:38] <MrKanister> Is anyone able to run "System -> Administration -> System Testing" under Jaunty?
[16:39] <vocx> MrKanister, what does it do? Is that a new thing?
[16:39] <MrKanister> I suspect it can not be run because of python 2.6...is gives a deprecation warning about the md5 module
[16:41] <vocx> MrKanister, I never test the development releases, but I did hear they were going to migrate to python 2.6, so how is it going? Still a lot of broken packages?
[16:42] <MrKanister> vocx: I am not that much into the migration of python, but it seems like many packages were already succesfully migrated
[16:42] <MrKanister> vocx: I found the bug report about the "System Testing " bug... bug #335773
[16:45] <vocx> MrKanister, about the last comment in that bug, it appears that /usr/bin/checkbox-gtk is not a python script, so it cannot be run with python directly. It's probably a shell script that calls python though.
[16:45] <MrKanister> vocx: yep, it's a shell script, but running "python2.5 /usr/share/checkbox/run /usr/share/checkbox/configs/checkbox-gtk.ini
[16:45] <MrKanister> " also gives an error
[16:48] <vocx> By the way, a few weeks ago I was trying to figure out why nautilus took so much time to load directories with several files, it is due to Assistive Technologies "at-spi". If anyone is interested, you can check bug #159042
[16:51] <vocx> Can anyone confirm that bug for Jaunty? Perhaps the simple solution would be to turn Assitive Tecnhologies by default while the real problem remains to be worked out by the gnome people.
[17:00] <MrKanister> vocx: I tested it on Jaunty (the nautilus thing) and I can confirm it. I also left a comment
[17:01] <vocx> MrKanister, did you read my post? Activate Assitive Technologies, check top for "at-spi-registryd" and all of that?
[17:03] <MrKanister> I haven't obtained a backtrace or similar...I just tried opening /usr/lib/ once with AT activated and once without it. And there is a huge difference
[17:03] <vocx> okay,
[17:08] <nhandler> bdmurray: ping
[17:08] <bdmurray> nhandler: hi
[17:09] <nhandler> bdmurray: I think something is wrong with the Greasemonkey script that shows the activity log in the comments area of a bug report.
[17:09] <nhandler> bdmurray: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k9copy/+bug/339688
[17:10] <nhandler> bdmurray: I'm seeing stuff like "</a changed on 2009-03-14:" which is a broked link to kitterman's profile
[17:11] <bdmurray> nhandler: there's a launchpad greasemonkey scripts project - could you report a bug about it?
[17:15] <nhandler> bdmurray: Ok, I just wanted to try and see if it was actually a bug in the script or just for me.
[17:15] <bdmurray> nhandler: oh, I've recreated it
[17:15] <nhandler> I'll file a bug about it in a little bit
[17:15] <nhandler> Depending on how much time I have, I might also look into patching it
[17:16] <bdmurray> nhandler: great, I'll try and look at it this week then
[17:20] <nhandler> bdmurray: the karma script is also messed up. It shows the information *before* the name in the Assigned To column. I'll file a report about this too
[18:20] <bcurtiswx> anyone available here running jaunty?
[18:20] <bcurtiswx> dtchen: are you available?
[18:23] <vocx> minutes ago there were guys here talking, but I currently don't run jaunty
[18:25] <bcurtiswx> there could be a really nasty pulse audio or ALSA bug , i just want another confirmation before marking it as high importance
[18:26] <bcurtiswx> BUGabundo: do you run jaunty ?
[18:26] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: but of course
[18:26] <BUGabundo> nothing other then the latest, cutting edgy, and buggier of any software
[18:26] <bcurtiswx> BUGabundo: can you go into syslog and see if you get a mass write or errors
[18:26] <BUGabundo> but why?
[18:27] <bcurtiswx> for pulseaudio
[18:27] <BUGabundo> audio related?
[18:27] <BUGabundo> dan fixed that Yesterday
[18:27] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: works for you?
[18:28] <bcurtiswx> i get the error
[18:28] <bcurtiswx> but its diff than the bugs dtchens working on
[18:28] <BUGabundo> ahh
[18:28] <BUGabundo> bets me
[18:29] <BUGabundo> you need to ask dtchen then
[18:29] <bcurtiswx> bug #343254
[18:29] <BUGabundo> you can see my syslog from yesterday live image at 343258
[18:29] <BUGabundo> bug 343258
[18:31] <bcurtiswx> hmm
[18:31] <charlie-tca> I got about 1 million lines of error from that bug!
[18:32] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: the one I posted?
[18:32] <bcurtiswx> dtchen: ping
[18:32] <charlie-tca> let me look again. It just started today for me
[18:33] <bcurtiswx> well my sound buzzes on occasion, but i would have no idea if the two are related
[18:33] <charlie-tca> no, the ones he committed the fix to
[18:34] <bcurtiswx> do you get ones like bug 343254
[18:34] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: if it started today
[18:34] <BUGabundo> then its new
[18:34] <BUGabundo> probably related to dtchen changes/fix
[18:34] <charlie-tca> sorry, that would be about the same. I get it at startup, though, since I don't suspend
[18:35] <charlie-tca> same damn message, my user.log is 341mb
[18:35] <bcurtiswx> danggg
[18:35] <charlie-tca> hm, if 41mb is 1 million lines, what is 341mb?
[18:36] <charlie-tca> 6454 lines per second
[18:36] <bcurtiswx> do you think the bug i posted is different enough to not be a dup?
[18:36] <charlie-tca> looks to me like the same one, but I am batting -1500 on dups this weekend
[18:37] <charlie-tca> I can't seem to get duplicates right for nothing
[18:37] <BUGabundo> per second??????
[18:37]  * BUGabundo thinks of deleting the log
[18:37] <charlie-tca> 10:20:28 until 10:20:29 gives 6454 lines
[18:38]  * bcurtiswx was contemplating the samr thing
[18:38] <BUGabundo> 214MiBs
[18:38] <BUGabundo> I wonder how long until it pastesbins over 3G.... eheh
[18:39] <charlie-tca> first boot gave me 41MB of log. I decided to try again and got 341MB. I don't think I want to try again
[18:39] <bcurtiswx> hahaha
[18:39] <bcurtiswx> im gonna make the bug i posted like its not a dup and talk to dtchen next time he plops back on
[18:39] <charlie-tca> and dtchen is hiding? he just went away
[18:40] <BUGabundo> timeout
[18:40] <BUGabundo> those too are having lots of trouble on their connection
[18:43] <charlie-tca> There appears to be 4 of these bugs now. bug 320875
[18:43] <charlie-tca> is the one I saw first. Hopefully, that fix will hit fast
[18:44] <bcurtiswx> dtchen: you there?
[18:46] <BUGabundo> doesn't seem so
[18:46] <BUGabundo> where is maco ?
[18:46] <BUGabundo> ill ping them on identica
[18:46] <bcurtiswx> idk, im in their LOCO but noones on the channel either
[18:51] <BUGabundo> http://identi.ca/notice/2804155
[18:51] <BUGabundo> just pinged them
[18:51] <BUGabundo> lets wait and see
[18:51] <BUGabundo> we could go to #pulseaudio too
[18:51] <BUGabundo> but they would just bash us out
[18:51] <BUGabundo> isn't themuso around either?
[18:51] <BUGabundo> hey maco
[18:51] <BUGabundo> welcome
[18:52] <BUGabundo> sorry for the extra noise and nagging
[18:52] <bcurtiswx> hey maco, the bf around?
[18:52] <maco> not in the room
[18:52] <maco> today is homework day, so i dont think he's coming over
[18:53] <maco> i expect he'll be online anyway
[18:53] <bcurtiswx> bug #343254, i wasnt sure if it was like bugs he fixed yesterday
[18:53] <BUGabundo> bf?
[18:53] <maco> ugh
[18:53] <BUGabundo> I thought you guys just shared the room
[18:53] <maco> bcurtiswx: shhh
[18:53] <BUGabundo> the secret is out now
[18:53]  * BUGabundo ducks
[18:53] <bcurtiswx> maco: didn't know it was on the down low... sorry.. can you forgive me?
[18:54] <maco> hahayeah
[18:54] <maco> its just not something we say in logged channels
[18:55] <BUGabundo> or private IM either it seems
[18:55] <maco> BUGabundo: not like im required to tell you who i'm seeing
[18:55] <BUGabundo> dtchen: just log on on identica
[18:55] <bcurtiswx> maco: you can beat me up at the next DC-Team meeting
[18:55] <BUGabundo> I know maco....
[18:55] <BUGabundo> just kidding around
[18:55] <maco> anyway....
[18:56] <maco> im going to head back to the safety of #linuxchix now...
[18:56] <BUGabundo> since when we fist talked privately you denied
[18:56] <BUGabundo> just that... nothing else.. don't go make a fuss about it
[18:56] <maco> i think that was back when we were just friends :P
[18:56] <maco> but jeez can the topic of my love-life be dropped?
[18:56] <greg-g> offtopic! ;)
[18:57] <maco> very off topic for this channel!
[18:57]  * BUGabundo damn OSD... its backlog and making me say things that are not true
[18:58] <bcurtiswx> maco: next time you see dtchen can you have him check out bug #343254?
[18:58]  * BUGabundo $ pkill notify-osd 
[18:58] <maco> bcurtiswx: do you realy think im going to remember that long number?
[18:58] <BUGabundo> or all the other that charlie-tca seems to have found
[18:58] <bcurtiswx> maco: or just have him bug me.. (no pun intended)
[18:58] <maco> ill open a tab for it in firefox and hope i remember why :P
[18:58]  * BUGabundo is not handble bcurtiswx
[18:59] <BUGabundo> or we can dent him
[18:59] <BUGabundo> lol
[18:59] <BUGabundo> or memoserv
[18:59] <BUGabundo> or email
[18:59] <bcurtiswx> lol
[18:59] <BUGabundo> xeee
[19:00] <bcurtiswx> ***BUGabundo has turned into BUGalinespammer
[19:00] <bcurtiswx> j/k :P
[19:01] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: old habbit! nevet manage to write long sentences on IRC
[19:01] <BUGabundo> always got the idea the other person would be there... waiting ... until I finish1
[19:01] <BUGabundo> so I just type something and send it....
[19:01] <BUGabundo> so the other side can go reading it while I type more
[19:02] <maco> haha. well he only checked identi.ca once every couple days
[19:03] <charlie-tca> take a look at 320875
[19:03] <charlie-tca> bug 320875
[19:04] <charlie-tca> Which looks similar
[19:04] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: I know dtchen mention similar stuff on +1 yesterday
[19:04] <charlie-tca> or 343103
[19:04] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca, yea i know about that, and it looks quite similar, but the errors are enough diff, i want to make sure dtchens fixes would apply
[19:04] <BUGabundo> and that is was fixed and on NEW queue
[19:04] <BUGabundo> not sure if that is new bug, or the same
[19:04] <charlie-tca> If that was fixed, why am I just now getting the errors?
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Should I file another bug?
[19:05] <maco> he fixed that yesterday
[19:05] <maco> it hasnt been uploaded yet
[19:05] <maco> but last night i saw him filling in the changelog
[19:05] <BUGabundo> he said that is was fixed and on NEW queue
[19:05] <charlie-tca> What about bug 343103
[19:05] <maco> i dont know about that one
[19:05] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca wanna dup that to 343254?
[19:05] <maco> but i was just told to point him to it later today
[19:06] <bcurtiswx> bug #343254
[19:06] <charlie-tca> I don't wanna dup nothing no more. I been wrong about dups about 10 times this weekend
[19:06] <bcurtiswx> haha, ok, brb
[19:06] <charlie-tca> LOL
[19:06] <charlie-tca> Gun shy now. Everything I dup gets reversed.
[19:07] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:07] <charlie-tca> I think I'll wait a day to file any more, though. Give the fix time to come through
[19:09] <bcurtiswx> k, duped
[19:20] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: although with your luck you may not want to, but dup as many that come in that are like those bugs.  I have a feeling we may see a bit more before dtchens fixes come through
[19:20] <bcurtiswx> i will be looking as well
[19:21] <charlie-tca> I'll at least let you know about them, huh?
[19:21] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: lol
[19:21] <bcurtiswx> sure
[19:21] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:22] <BUGabundo> dupes by proxy
[19:22] <charlie-tca> I have a feeling you are right. This is going to keep coming just because of the size of the logs. I have 10GB for logs, but most won't have that much.
[19:24] <bcurtiswx> is there a clean way to clear log files?
[19:24] <bcurtiswx> instead of rm?
[19:24] <BUGabundo> 720M	total
[19:24] <maco> nope, just use rm
[19:24] <BUGabundo> log-rotate trunk ?
[19:24] <maco> might be able to tweak log rotate...
[19:24] <BUGabundo> duh
[19:24] <BUGabundo> truncate
[19:25] <BUGabundo> or just rm and restart log service
[19:25] <BUGabundo> to make new ones
[19:25] <bcurtiswx> will i need to stop the log daemon first?
[19:26] <maco> bcurtiswx: just delete like syslog.6.gz
[19:26] <maco> the higher the #, the older it is
[19:26] <bcurtiswx> k
[19:26] <BUGabundo> humm higer is older
[19:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Looking at the syslog issue, it may be possible to tweak the syslog.conf rules to discard these messages as a temporary workaround... something like: user.*;user.!err -/var/log/user.log
[19:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Just need to figure out the priority of the pulseaudio messages
[19:49] <BUGabundo> nice
[19:51] <IntuitiveNipple> BUGabundo: care to dig into the pulseaudio source-code and find the daemon logging function to discover what facility and priority it is sending to?
[19:52] <maco> its uploaded
[19:52] <BUGabundo> IntuitiveNipple: code is not me!
[19:52] <maco> dtchen lowered the priority on the logs that are killing /var/log/
[19:52] <BUGabundo> services, I'm your guys
[19:52] <maco> in pulseaudio
[19:52] <IntuitiveNipple> lol
[19:52] <IntuitiveNipple> code is everyone!
[19:52] <maco> waiting for someone to go "ok yeah, dtchen's fixing stuff..*release into archive*"
[19:53] <IntuitiveNipple> How can a  walking strand of DNA say "code is not me" ?:D
[19:53] <IntuitiveNipple> If we can do a workaround in syslog for now, it would help. I've got two 2.5GB files in the /var/ volume right now
[19:55] <maco> you can delete an old one...
[19:55]  * maco goes to find the queue
[19:57] <BUGabundo> I like to keep logs
[20:00] <maco> i couldnt *fit* two 2.5gb files in /var/lo
[20:00] <maco>  /var/log
[20:00] <maco> ive only got 500mb of free space on /
[20:00] <maco> and that's *after* an apt-get clean
[20:01] <BUGabundo> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[20:01] <BUGabundo> /dev/sda1              9690316   8520688    681256  93% /
[20:01] <BUGabundo> I'm getting close too
[20:01] <maco> dude, -h
[20:01] <BUGabundo> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[20:01] <BUGabundo> /dev/sda1             9.3G  8.2G  666M  93% /
[20:01] <BUGabundo> I have and alias
[20:01] <BUGabundo> but pidgin does use it
[20:01] <BUGabundo> plus bytes are geekier
[20:04] <IntuitiveNipple> src/pulsecore/log.h:85:#define pa_log_error(...)  pa_log_level_meta(PA_LOG_ERROR
[20:05] <IntuitiveNipple> So it is a syslog "err" report
[20:10] <IntuitiveNipple> ok, seems to be working.
[20:11] <IntuitiveNipple> Edit /etc/syslog.conf, find the two lines that use the "user" facility and edit them, adding ";user.!err" to the specification
[20:12] <IntuitiveNipple> So:
[20:12] <IntuitiveNipple> *.*;auth,authpriv.none;user.!err		-/var/log/syslog
[20:12] <IntuitiveNipple> user.*;user.!err				-/var/log/user.log
[22:32] <maco> BUGabundo, IntuitiveNipple: the logging thing is fixed in crimsun's PPA, waiting on theMuso to move it from there to main, but dtchen says he thinks theMuso is off this week. he asked in #ubuntu-devel for someone else to sponsor it
[22:32] <maco> no idea if anyone else responded to dtchen's "hey anyone wanna sponsor an upload to fix a PulseAudio /var/log DoS?"
[22:34] <maco> bcurtiswx: ^
[22:35] <BUGabundo> thanks
[22:35] <BUGabundo> enabling dans ppa
[23:55] <david_> Hi, I accidentally nominated a bug for the wrong release - how can I undo it
[23:56] <david_> ?
[23:56] <vocx> bug?
[23:57] <david_> #341233
[23:57] <david_> should be jaunty, but not intrepid
[23:57] <vocx> bug #341233