[00:00] <PeoplesAdvocate> _Linuxx_ i have v2
[00:00] <russia213> Dr_Willis: How do I back it up? *is a total n00b*
[00:00] <Keal> how do i take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[00:00] <amortvigil> hello what to do with this error??: gtk_tree_view_set_cursor_on_cell: assertion `tree_view->priv->tree != NULL' failed
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> russia213,  i would not get obsessed with the cube then untill you learn some more fundamentals..
[00:00] <_Linuxx_> PeoplesAdvocate yeah, thats a good one. if you have an extra box around, just install pfsense. 10 times better than ddwrt
[00:01] <critt> ﻿IntuitiveNipple Hell yea. You da man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-D
[00:01] <IntuitiveNipple> critt: The best modeline from that is "Modeline "1024x768" 94.50 1024 1096 1200 1376 768 771 775 809 -hsync +vsync" which you could add to the Monitor section of xorg.conf (and remove the Horiz... and Vert... settings)
[00:01] <russia213> Dr_Willis: Would I just copy, rename, and paste somewhere else?
[00:01] <IntuitiveNipple> critt: oops, typo again, that isn't the best modeline! This is "Modeline "1280x1024" 109.00 1280 1368 1496 1712 1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync"
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> russia213,  learn to use the command line..  if you break X you wont bea le to use X to 'fix' it
[00:01] <PeoplesAdvocate> _Linuxx_ will i need two NIC cards?
[00:02] <dtchen> keaton: sec
[00:02] <_Linuxx_> PeoplesAdvocate yep
[00:02] <critt> ﻿IntuitiveNipple will do that now . I have the 1024.768 right now
[00:02] <PeoplesAdvocate> alright appreciate your help
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> critt: You have it *working* with that resolution?
[00:02] <_Linuxx_> np
[00:02] <PeoplesAdvocate> I will look into pfsense
[00:02] <critt> Yes
[00:02] <NewToUbuntu_> First time on IRC/mIRC. New to Ubuntu as well. Not ever sure if this is the right place to make this request. I'm trying to learn how to install ddrescue in order to recover data form an external drive that is not working properly. Would anyone be willing to spend some time to direct me how to get started? I am tech savy and learn quickly. Thanks in advance.
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> critt: Did you manage that using nvidia-settings?
[00:02] <Keal> how do i take a screenshot in ubuntu?
[00:02] <critt> Yes
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> critt: If nvidia-settings did that use it to increase to 1280x1024!
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Keal: just press print screen and save it
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Keal: keep the file extension on .png
[00:03] <critt> ﻿IntuitiveNipple will do
[00:03] <gRnt> drostie, am trying deluge now, I normally drop anywhere between 1-30 minutes but I'll know pretty quick it normally completey stuffs up my net even if it doesn't drop thanks for the advice.
[00:04] <sebsebseb> NewToUbuntu_: your in the correct channel, but I don't think many people have used that here, that come here
[00:04] <ultimatelifeform> WE LOVE SONIC!!!!!!!!!
[00:04] <Keal> how do i show hidden files and all extensions?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> view show hidden files and folders
[00:05] <sebsebseb> NewToUbuntu_: I guess this channel is worth trying for that issue as well  #linux  it's a more general LInux channel
[00:05] <scunizi> Keal: ctrl + H
[00:05] <bbelt16ag> hey peeps i got acpi installed is this what gnome uses  to do a suspend or hibernate?/  i see alot of  scripts and the like..
[00:05] <bbelt16ag> acpid i mean..
[00:05] <fjdkslafjklds> my sound all of a sudden stopped working, i get a wierd staticy output when i try to play a sound file
[00:05] <_Linuxx_> NewToUbuntu_ you are going to need 2 drives, one (the broken one) then two(the same size as the broken one)
[00:06] <NewToUbuntu_> sebsebseb, how do I access #linux, it that like another channel?
[00:06] <bbelt16ag> just wondering cause been having issues with hibernating
[00:06] <fjdkslafjklds> i checked all the volume controls, including the system one, and pulse audio
[00:06] <sebsebseb> NewToUbuntu_: by clicking on it or  /join #linux
[00:06] <Keal> the pink and orange line went away when i changed the skin
[00:06] <NewToUbuntu_> thanks seb!!!
[00:06] <Keal> i double checked the human skin isn't corrupt
[00:06] <_Linuxx_> NewToUbuntu_ you could then run that program, and it will try to recover any readable data from the broken one, to the new one
[00:06] <fjdkslafjklds> what is the command to reconfigure my sound devices?
[00:06] <critt> ﻿IntuitiveNipple Looks good!!! have saved settings to xorg.. Thanks a bunch WOW:-D
[00:07] <Keal> i took a screenshot of the lines though
[00:07] <IntuitiveNipple> critt: Nice one :)
[00:07] <Booh> I don't know why, my saved VPN in network manage doesn't work anymore since few months.   I have 6 VPN connections (cisco and win pptp) neither of them work now.
[00:07] <fjdkslafjklds> please someone just fill me in on the command for configuring sound devices
[00:07] <fjdkslafjklds> isnt it like alsaconf or something like that
[00:07] <fjdkslafjklds> alsaconf doesnt work for me
[00:07] <fjdkslafjklds> what else can i try?
[00:07] <CapriCoRN^80> i forget my username on ubuntu 7.10
[00:08] <dtchen> keaton: you need to unmute 'PCM' and increase its volume
[00:08] <scunizi> !sound | fjdkslafjklds
[00:08] <CapriCoRN^80> i tried all option mentioned on google
[00:08] <CapriCoRN^80> but didnt work
[00:08] <CapriCoRN^80> need help
[00:08] <Flannel> CapriCoRN^80: At GRUB, choose the "recovery console", once there, you can view your usernames (cat /etc/passwd)
[00:08] <dtchen> fjdkslafjklds: we haven't shipped alsaconf as part of alsa-utils since Ubuntu 5.04
[00:08] <fjdkslafjklds> well dtchen, its been a while ;)
[00:08] <CapriCoRN^80> i used that recovery procedure by pressing e and adding rw init =/..................
[00:09] <whileimhere> Evening! I was wondering if there is a Media Management system for ubuntu? I mean for instance a cataloging program like picasa that can handle video, images, sounds all in one catalog program?
[00:09] <Flannel> CapriCoRN^80: No, you don't have to change anything.  Just choose "recovery console"
[00:09] <CapriCoRN^80> Flannel: when i use recovery console it will again go to normally username prompt
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> russia213,   the proper way to tweak those setting now are via 'hal'   and fdi config files. (somhing ive not used befor eitehr) ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948154
[00:09] <Flannel> CapriCoRN^80: It shouldn't.  It should go straight to a root prompt. Unless you've messed up your grub config
[00:09] <keaton> dtchen:That again? That happened to my desktop too, how bizarre... Well, thanks.
[00:09] <_Linuxx_> CapriCoRN^80 do you have an ubuntu boot cd?
[00:09] <CapriCoRN^80> Flannel: i did nothing
[00:09] <CapriCoRN^80> _Linuxx_: yes
[00:10] <fjdkslafjklds> yay it works, thanks for !sound ing me
[00:10] <Flannel> CapriCoRN^80: Alright, go back and edit, and append 'single' to the end of the vmlinuz line.
[00:10] <_Linuxx_> CapriCoRN^80 boot to that, then browse your hard drive to /home
[00:10] <fjdkslafjklds> that was too easy
[00:10] <_Linuxx_> CapriCoRN^80 then you will see your home directory named with your username
[00:11] <CapriCoRN^80> Flannel: i did that single thing as well
[00:11] <CapriCoRN^80> _Linux_: you mean i should boot from live cd ?
[00:11] <_Linuxx_> CapriCoRN^80 yeah
[00:11] <CapriCoRN^80> and from live cd i should select recovery console option ?
[00:12] <_Linuxx_> CapriCoRN^80 no, just boot into it like you are going to try out ubuntu
[00:12] <sjcire> I have an error to report.  This will be my first.  Does anyone know how I would go about that?
[00:12] <Flannel> !bugs | sjcire
[00:12] <sebsebseb> !ask
[00:12] <CapriCoRN^80> _Linuxx_: its long process
[00:12] <sjcire> !bugs
[00:12] <CapriCoRN^80> anyother short cut ?
[00:12] <_Linuxx_> CapriCoRN^80 i think ubuntu mounts your hard drive
[00:13] <arkady> why is the flash plugin 32-bits?
[00:13] <_Linuxx_> CapriCoRN^80 it should only take 2 min to boot to a live cd
[00:13] <Flannel> sjcire: Follow the link ubottu sent you
[00:13] <CapriCoRN^80> ok
[00:13] <sebsebseb> arkady: there is also a very good  64bit flash alpha/beta
[00:13] <arkady> sebsebseb: is there a package?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> arkady: nah you get it off Adobe's website some where, if your on 64bit
[00:14] <sebsebseb> arkady: it's in development, but still rather good
[00:14] <arkady> sebsebseb: meh, I recall that Debian Stable had it in non-free
[00:15] <arkady> if there isn't even a jaunty deb... that means it won't be in next release
[00:15] <rdz> is there  a way to have a higher resolution for boot screen and also for the terminal, that can be accessed through alt-ctrl-f1 etc?
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> rdz,  '
[00:16] <scunizi> rdz: boot screen is limited to 640x480 I believe.. not sure about terminal though..
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> rdz,   thats the Console on alt-ctrl-F1 and you can enable the framebuffer and have higher res.
[00:16] <arkady> with a framebuffer kernel line I believe
[00:17] <xdfz> how can I do it please, with conky I think : http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4310/capturejz1.png ( on the left )
[00:17] <arkady> has anyone tried Nexenta, and how similar to Ubuntu is that?
[00:17] <zip> hi
[00:18] <mgolisch> arkady: its not linux
[00:18] <DigitalKiwi> !hi
[00:18] <_Linuxx_> xdfz yes, thats conky
[00:18] <nyx> sebsebseb: Where is this 64-bit Adobe Flash alpha/beta?
[00:18] <zip> i installed kde for windows. can i start it
[00:18] <arkady> mgolisch: it's the same packages as ubuntu pretty much, so I wonder how much the kernel matters
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> xdfz,  u You mean the 'root window ' termnal on the left?
[00:18] <bonez46> I have moved 2 sata drives and one ide driver to a newer box.. if i click on any of the drives I get this message > Cannot mount volume. The volume uses the ext4 file system which is not supported by your system..     I am running with an UBUNTU 8.10 live desktop disc..
[00:18] <mgolisch> arkady: its just uses a ubuntu userland, for a desktop system id not consider using it
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> xdfz,  conky isent doing that.. but theres other ways to do it.
[00:19] <bonez46> how can I mount each drive so that I can fix menu.lst so that the drives will be bootable and visible .. ? suggestions?
[00:19] <TokenBad> ok..I have a friend who first tried to install ubuntu 8.10 then tried ubuntu 9.04..the 8.04 was working fine..but everytime he tries to go to 8.10 or to 9.04 he can't even get to the install part of it..he gets to the boot menu then nothing..
[00:19] <rdz> Dr_Willis, i would like to set up framebuffer.. do you know any resource or where to start?
[00:19] <arkady> mgolisch: the interesting thing to me is that it'll boot up in 64-bit or 32-bit depending on what's available
[00:20] <_Linuxx_> arkady its solaris, very different than linux
[00:20] <mgolisch> arkady: but its solaris basicaly, there much different
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> rdz,  you just edit the menu.lst and read the commands and put in the right #.s  i niormaally DISABLE the framebuffer.. :)
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> !framebuffer | rdz
[00:20] <mgolisch> arkady: unless you realy need zfs or some other stuff it provides id not use it
[00:20] <arkady> mgolisch: ah, thanks
[00:20] <scunizi> bonez46: you could try putting the drives in the same numerical positions on the motherboard that they were on the previous system and make sure the boot order is also the same.
[00:20] <sebsebseb> nyx: he provides the link in the article and by the looks of it, it's not alpha anymore :d   http://blogs.computerworld.com/64_bit_linux_adobe_flash_player_surprisingly_good?page=1
[00:20] <arkady> mgolisch: hmm... I thought Linux had ZFS
[00:20] <_Linuxx_> arkady applications are ported to solaris from linux. they can be buggy
[00:20] <TokenBad> his video card is a 6600gt..any idea why ubuntu will not install with that card?
[00:20] <mgolisch> arkady: not realy
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> TokenBad,  ive jheard  of others with issues with that card..
[00:21] <sixofour> What is the apt-get package for Python 2.2?
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> TokenBad,  the alternative insatller should work..  also.
[00:21] <scunizi> bonez46: since it's ext4 on the drives you might burn a copy of the Jaunty cd.. I think it might have ext4 available.. it's not available on the 8.10 cd
[00:21] <mgolisch> sixofour: thats stoneage, i doubt ubuntu ships with python2.2
[00:21] <arkady> _Linuxx_: but it's far different than the Debian/kFreeBSD
[00:21] <sixofour> or newer*
[00:22] <mgolisch> sixofour: python2.5 should be installed by default
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> python is included :)
[00:22] <sixofour> on kubuntu?
[00:22] <TokenBad> Dr_Willis you seen any of them that have got around that?
[00:22] <bazhang> yes
[00:22] <bonez46> scunizi: but I have never installed ext4..
[00:22] <arkady> _Linuxx_: in that you're not emulating anything (other than Flash, yeah)
[00:22] <sixofour> what about wxpython?
[00:22] <sixofour> 2.6.0 or newer
[00:22] <mgolisch> sixofour: if you need that install it
[00:22] <sixofour> what is the package called?
[00:22] <mgolisch> sixofour: apt-cache search is your friend
[00:22] <JohnDoy> I'm getting SNMP error: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmpagent.so.15: undefined symbol: boot_DynaLoader, On Ubuntu 8.04 Server. Can annybody help me ?
[00:23] <sjcire> Recently I changed /etc/ssh/ssh_config.  I changes port=22 ---> port=nnn.  After I did this all my ssh bookmarks "in the nautilus explorer stopped working.  I could still loginto the shh shell from a terminal but it required that I include the -p nnn option.  The servers still worked.  I can get the nautilus to connect to the ssh thought sftp interactive mode by including a port specification. I now use sftp://user@server:22/folder instea
[00:23] <scunizi> bonez46: it's weird that it would say that then..
[00:23] <sixofour> yes and i get about 4000 results
[00:23] <arkady> scunizi: bonez46: yeah, Jaunty has ext4 by default
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> TokenBad,  some may of used the drivers from envyng, or the newer nvidia drivers from the nvidia site.  check the forums would be he best bet
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> ext4 is not the 'default' but an option
[00:23] <arkady> Dr_Willis: err, I mean it's IN by default
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> ok :) heh
[00:24] <JohnDoy> I'm getting SNMP error: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmpagent.so.15: undefined symbol: boot_DynaLoader, On Ubuntu 8.04 Server. Can annybody help me ?
[00:24] <TokenBad> Dr_Willis, I could understand that if it was installed and had problems..but it will not even install
[00:24] <medfly> hi guys, I'm having some difficulty using my new webcam. cheese is saying it can't find a camera, and dmesg is giving an error of "usb_submit_urb() failed, error -28". the last bit of dmesg: http://rafb.net/p/DHsjGa32.html
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> I for one dont plan opn using ext4 for another 6+mo at least.
[00:24] <JohnDoy> I'm getting SNMP error: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmpagent.so.15: undefined symbol: boot_DynaLoader, On Ubuntu 8.04 Server. Can annybody help me ?
[00:24]  * medfly is lost
[00:24] <arkady> as in, you can mount ext4 stuffs. had a Debian install with custom kernel that I had to recover because I stupidly picked the newest filesystem
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> TokenBad,  try the alternative installer.. or do like i do and make a usb-live-drive from a different ubuntu system and install the nvidia drivers.  but you need a ubuntu system to do that.
[00:25] <TokenBad> Dr_Willis or get a better/different card..heheh
[00:26] <gRnt> drostie, thanks for the advice on deluge is working prefectly, transmission would have already had a conflict with my net, maybe it was a driver issue not sure.
[00:26] <arkady> ext4 seems worth it, but I won't be using it until Jaunty goes stable
[00:26] <Time`s_Witness> is there any way that i could filter the content returned by tcpdump command in real life, with a "grep" or similar ?
[00:26] <Time`s_Witness> tried something like tcpdump -flags arguments | grep "expression", unsuccessfully xD
[00:27] <arkady> Time`s_Witness: there's ngrep
[00:28] <Time`s_Witness> thanks arkady :p
[00:28] <I2> get this error while compiling a program: http://pastebin.com/m22bf2362 please help me........
[00:28] <arkady> Time`s_Witness: some apps that like to play bad media files need some help with mplayer. and most apps won't admit what stream URL they are downloading :P
[00:29] <arkady> so, one does "ngrep mdatrtsp"
[00:29] <Time`s_Witness> lol, im sry i didnt understand what you mean about those apps :S
[00:29] <Suikwan> Can anyone help me set up a DLink DWL-G520 wireless card?
[00:30] <inntegrapv> can somebody help me out pls, i got a toshiba satellite notebook and i am connect to internet with a Kyocera 650 but it keeps disconnecting
[00:30] <inntegrapv> how can i force it to keep connect ot anyone knows pls?
[00:31] <yellowtime> Can anyone help me enable desktop effects for ubuntu studio 8.10 lts for an geforce 7300gs
[00:31] <scrote> hi
[00:32] <scrote> how do i uninstall a package that is installed with dpkg ?
[00:32] <arkady> Suikwan: madwifi drivers are reportedly supposed to support that
[00:32] <medfly> theres deinstall just like install scrote
[00:32] <scrote> i used -i to install
[00:32] <scrote> so i'll use -d
[00:32] <Suikwan> arkady, are the madwifi drivers normally included in the distro?
[00:33] <sixofour> how do you install .jar source stuff?
[00:33] <I2> having ﻿this error while compiling a program: http://pastebin.com/m22bf2362 please help me........
[00:33] <scrote> that didnt work
[00:33] <scrote> it says dpkg: need an action option
[00:33] <arkady> Suikwan: probably not, and apparently D-Link has linux drivers so that might be a better bet
[00:34] <LjL> scrote: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[00:34] <Suikwan> Do you know where I can get the linux drivers?
[00:35] <scrote> LjL but i installed this manually, i didnt know apt-get remove can uninstall packages that were installed via dpkg
[00:35] <sjcire> Recently I changed /etc/ssh/ssh_config.  I changes port=22 ---> port=nnn.  After I did this all my ssh bookmarks in the nautilus explorer stopped working.  I could still login to the ssh shell from a terminal but it required that I include the -p nnn option.  The servers still worked.  I can get the nautilus to connect to the ssh thought sftp interactive mode by including a port specification. I now use sftp://user@server:22/folder instea
[00:35] <scrote> LjL yeah, you can.t
[00:35] <scrote> they're deb files
[00:36] <scrote> you dont apt-get remove deb filse
[00:36] <galag>  Hi! I have a 1,1GHZ Pentium III with 256MB 100mhz RAM. Due GNOME is working too slow I'm thinking about change my desktop to XFCE or FluxBox. But, what is the best choice for performance, once all my favorite programs are GTK-dependent? (firefoxl, evolution, xchat, etc..) ?
[00:36] <arkady> Suikwan: apparently that is "old and unsupported" by D-Link, and they don't have Linux drivers
[00:36] <Suikwan> arkady, the DWL-G520?
[00:36] <medfly> how do I go about using my webcam? dmesg seems to say it was detected.
[00:37] <arkady> Suikwan: yes
[00:37] <LjL> scrote: yes you can.
[00:37] <unop> scrote, apt-get uses dpkg to install .deb files - so sure you can.
[00:37] <LjL> scrote: and no, you don't remove the deb file itself. you need to specify the *package name*.
[00:37] <arkady> Suikwan: http://support.dlink.com/Products/view.asp?productid=DWL-G520
[00:37] <arkady> Suikwan: are you running in 32-bits?
[00:38] <helper> hey all what meant by DHCP Relay ?
[00:38] <helper> the one who reply ?
[00:38] <scrote> how do i find the package name, if given the deb files
[00:38] <munk_> can someone help me? none of my usb drives are mounted, lsusb sees them but they never automount...
[00:38] <Suikwan> yes
[00:38] <unop> helper, the server that takes a DHCP request and forwards it on to a DHCP server.
[00:39] <helper> unop, ah ok thanks
[00:39] <arkady> Suikwan: you can use ndiswrapper to wrap the windows drivers, then
[00:39] <TheUnderTaker> Does ubuntu take advantage of HT?
[00:39] <TheUnderTaker> HyperThreading
[00:39] <rdz> Dr_Willis, thanks for the help about framebuffer. unfortunately, it didn't work. after setting a vga mode in menu.lst, i still get the usua 640x480 console...
[00:39] <scrote> how do i get the pacakges off my computer?
[00:39] <scrote> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[00:39] <scrote> i want those off
[00:39] <LjL> scrote: what's the name of the deb file?
[00:39] <LjL> TheUnderTaker: yes
[00:39] <scrote> there's a couple of em.
[00:40] <LjL> scrote: how about you try the beginning of the filename, and then hit TAB
[00:40] <scrote> i want these off my computer --->  xorg-driver-fglrx_8.582-0ubuntu1_i386.deb fglrx-kernel-source_8.582-0ubuntu1_i386.deb fglrx-amdcccle_8.582-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[00:40] <Time`s_Witness> what's the file to check what port is associated to what, or what ports are being used for what? or something similar, please
[00:40] <TheUnderTaker> cool now it will be worth upgrading my celeron to the p4 prescott core
[00:40] <LjL> scrote: the names are xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-kernel-source and fglrx-amdcccle
[00:40] <PleXuS> anyone known how to make use of a future called scan to pc on multifunctional printers?
[00:40] <LjL> Time`s_Witness: /etc/services
[00:40] <Time`s_Witness> thanks LjL :p
[00:40] <PleXuS> seems to be bad supported on linux :s
[00:41] <munk_> can someone help me? none of my usb drives are mounted, lsusb sees them but they never automount...
[00:42] <scrote> LjL thanx i will aptitude purge those.
[00:42] <dnathe4th> anyone know if its possible to jailbreak an itouch/iphone from ubuntu? i dont want to have to use winblows
[00:42] <scrote> LjL, why didnt dpkg deinstall xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-amdcccle  ?
[00:42] <scrote> i had the same errors
[00:42] <Suikwan> arkady, you think the XP drivers would be the best option?
[00:42] <LjL> dnathe4th: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[00:43] <scrote> oh well, aptitude is workign.
[00:43] <scrote> thanx guys
[00:43] <arkady> Suikwan: probably they are more updated, who knows
[00:43] <dnathe4th> LjL when i go to that link for Jailbreaking i get server timeout, do you?
[00:43] <LjL> dnathe4th: no
[00:43] <dnathe4th> LjL http://www.touchdev.net/wiki/How_to_Escape_Jail  that link
[00:43] <LjL> ah
[00:43] <arkady> Suikwan: oh, and does the interface even appear in ifconfig?
[00:44] <dnathe4th> it might just not be possible
[00:44] <LjL> dnathe4th: yes i do
[00:44] <Ish> !aptitude
[00:44] <Sertse> what does a minimal install need to get sound working. Pssing me off. You install alsabase alsa utils and then....?
[00:44] <Suikwan> arkady, yes, but I have multiple entries...I have wifi0 and ath0...wifi0 has a weird physical address
[00:45] <Ish> activate wifi0?
[00:45] <arkady> Suikwan: a "weird" physical address? pastebin the output please
[00:45] <arkady> and multiple copies has happened for me before, but... not since I did a reinstall
[00:45] <Ish> and then ath1 will come up, then use that? lol, that's what i did
[00:45] <arkady> so I think it's just an iffy HAL Daemon
[00:46] <Suikwan> arkady, how do I pastebin the output, kinda new to IRC
[00:46] <Ish> Suikwan, cl1p.net
[00:46] <arkady> Suikwan: pastebin.com or some such site
[00:46] <Ish> he doesn't want the channel flooded with whatever you're about to paste
[00:47] <bbelt16ag> hey peeps i am having trouble getting my pc to hibernate and suspend, it suspends sometimes and sometimes not.
[00:48] <bbelt16ag> i will paste bin my acpid configs and stuff. if you like
[00:48] <linkmaster03> how can i print all running X display names in a shell?
[00:48] <chalcedony> how long should updates take on cable with an initial install?
[00:49] <yoyit2> is there a such thing as a registry cleaner for ubuntu.. or somthing to tune it back up to full speed??
[00:49] <bbelt16ag> i am usi s2diak to try and hibernate..
[00:49] <bbelt16ag> s2disk
[00:49] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: Linux does not have a registery,  user data for programs, gets put in hidden .folders in home
[00:49] <Suikwan> arkady, http://cl1p.net/stufffromifconfig/
[00:50] <Suikwan> arkady, notice the HWaddr isnt the typical mac address like the rest of the interfaces
[00:50] <arkady> does anyone else see Suikwan's link as totally empty?
[00:51] <bbelt16ag> http://pastebin.ca/1361106 this is  the config its useing any help would be appreciated
[00:51] <Ish> Suikwan, you totally didn't save it ;)
[00:51] <bbelt16ag> the type of suspend ia m using is  uswsup btw running 8.10 ubuntu
[00:52] <Suikwan> try now
[00:52] <Ish> you have to paste and then hit "Save" in the top right, or use pastebin.com it might be easier, i just happen to remember cl1p
[00:52] <BobSponja> Hi, offered technical support to Spanish speaking users
[00:52] <arkady> that's definitely a master device
[00:52] <Ish> much better
[00:52] <arkady> is that the only thing that's up? wifi0?
[00:52] <Ish> i came in this late, but that's a new laptop isn't it?
[00:53] <dajxd1> Hey all, I can't seem to update my Ubuntu- it offers a partial upgrade,  but then can't authenticate anything.  Is there another way I can try to do this?
[00:53] <Guest37132> i need help. My NetworkManager is not running. "nm-applet --sm-disable" says 'server is already taken"
[00:53] <chalcedony> BobSponja might try #ubuntu-es
[00:53] <Suikwan> arkady, just posted all of the ifconfig output
[00:54] <spideryummy> i need help. My NetworkManager is not running. "nm-applet --sm-disable" says 'service is already taken"
[00:54] <BobSponja> chalcedony  ok Gracias ,  ok thanks well , muy bien :)
[00:54] <arkady> Suikwan: you already have wired connection.
[00:54] <bonobo> hey there i just downloaded the source code of the latest version of videolan, but i don't know how i can compile it, can somebody give me a quick hand please?
[00:55] <Suikwan> Ish, no this is not a new laptop, its a desktop I built from spare parts, just happen to come across a used, but working, DLink DWL-G520 and I wanted to get it working under ubuntu
[00:55] <chalcedony> BobSponja de nada (i don't really speak spanish)
[00:55] <arkady> Suikwan: you trying to use the wifi card to turn your desktop into a router?
[00:55] <Karlos> hello i want to create a shortcut of the network icon and the recycle basquet in my desktop how can i do it
[00:55] <munk_> can someone help me? none of my usb drives are mounted, lsusb sees them but they never automount...
[00:55] <Suikwan> true, but I'd like to eliminate the really long cable
[00:55] <yoyit2> sebsebseb: so how would i make it go as fast as it used to when i first installed it?? (i still have like 60GBs free on my HDD)
[00:55] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: how much RAM?
[00:56] <Keal> i can't figure out how to reset history or get rid of broken links in history in ubuntu's totem movie player :./
[00:56] <arkady> Suikwan: wireless is painful even if you must use it and have proper drivers. connection WILL cut out, and usually in the middle of a dist-upgrade
[00:56] <yoyit2> sebsebseb: 2GBs, with 6GBs swap.. 1.9GBs dual amd
[00:56] <scrote> wireless is not a pain on kde 4.2 with knetworkmanager
[00:56] <Rtrix> anyone familiar with busybox and moblin kerne
[00:56] <arkady> not that it matters much, as the upgrade won't happen until files are all downloaded :P
[00:57] <yoyit2> sebsebseb: **2Ghz dual amd
[00:57] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: there are ways to speed up Ubuntu, but I don't really know about that
[00:57] <Rtrix> anyone familiar with busybox and moblin kernel
[00:57] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: and 6GB is to much for swap, would could also be to do with your issue
[00:57] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: you want like 1GB for swap
[00:57] <arkady> scrote: if wireless is your only link and you lose connection, well, all your downloads terminate
[00:57] <yoyit2> sebsebseb: why is it bad to have 6??
[00:57] <humbolt> I just don't get it to work!
[00:57] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: which not would above
[00:57] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: ,because 6GB is way more than what swap needs. and the recommended amount is like 512MB  or 1GB
[00:57] <Suikwan> arkady, true, wireless will never be as reliable, but it would be really nice if i could get rid of the long ethernet cable running from one end of the office to the other
[00:57] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: the computer may also be slow if it uses swap
[00:58] <yoyit2> sebsebseb:  hmm.. ok can i shrink my swap in anyway?
[00:58] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: of course
[00:58] <keithclark> anyone know if a Linksys wpc54G adaptor works with ubuntu?
[00:58] <Keal> i can't figure out how to reset history or get rid of broken links in history in ubuntu's totem movie player :./ how do i reset history in totem?
[00:58] <arkady> Suikwan: may be too expensive, but they make small wireless bridge devices
[00:58] <humbolt> I am trying to create an USB install media. I got the USB pendrive booting, I select "Install" from the menu, kernel and initrd are loaded and then ... reboot instead of install
[00:58] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: you can't change /  the Ubuntu partition unless your on Live CD, but you can re size swap space
[00:58] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:59] <munk_> can someone help me? none of my usb drives are mounted, lsusb sees them but they never automount...
[00:59] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: and then system > administaration > partition editoir
[00:59] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: 1GB for swap is good
[00:59] <Suikwan> arkady, or just mod a wrt54g with DD-WRT and turn it into a wireless client
[00:59] <Keal> i have 60gb swap :/
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Keal: that is insane, and way to much
[00:59] <sebsebseb> !swap
[00:59] <arkady> Suikwan: there's an option in DD-WRT called wireless bridge or something, actually
[01:00] <arkady> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge
[01:00] <nds> Does anyone have a automatix file I can get?
[01:00] <Ish> munk_, my understanding is that they SHOULD Be automounting, so if you get no response, that's probably why
[01:00] <Keal> sebastienyoga as far as i know swap is also used during hibernate :/
[01:00] <sebsebseb> Keal: yes maybe, but even then you only should need like 1GB
[01:01] <Keal> :S
[01:01] <Ish> 60gigs seems completely normal, don't let them knock you
[01:01] <Rtrix> any one familiar with efi boot and lpia kernel
[01:01] <nds> 60 gigs?
[01:01] <sebsebseb> Ish: 60GB swap is way to much
[01:01] <nds> Im running it on 20 :D
[01:01] <matrixblue> Is 60gigs swap even allowed?
[01:01] <nds> Oh O.O 60 gig swap O.O
[01:01] <sebsebseb> nds: 20GB swap is also way to much
[01:01] <keithclark> Ok, where would I go to install a driver for a linksys wpc54g card? It worked with Mint
[01:01] <nds> I meant my entire system lol
[01:02] <nds> Not my swap :D
[01:02] <matrixblue> lol
[01:02] <nds> My swap is 1024 <---- a  gigf
[01:02] <nds> *gig
[01:02] <sebsebseb> yep good size 1GB
[01:02] <sebsebseb> swap
[01:02] <matrixblue> mine is 1 gig as well
[01:02] <Keal> :<
[01:02] <TheGeneral> cool
[01:02] <Ish> i heard it should be equal or double to your ram
[01:02] <matrixblue> it seldom ever uses more that 10 megs
[01:03] <arkady> 5.0GB swap, even though I hope that it never really does much swapping
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Ish: well  if you got 4GB  RAM you don't do 8GB RAM, in fact with 4GB RAM, you probably don't even need swap in the first place
[01:03] <Keal> i can't figure out how to reset history or get rid of broken links in history in ubuntu's totem movie player :./ how do i reset history in totem?
[01:03] <Ish> what happens if you have NO swap?
[01:03] <nds> Nothing
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Ish: I ran this computer quite well without swap.  and this is 1GB RAM
[01:03] <nds> You just hit your limit
[01:03] <rww> Ish: you can't suspend or hibernate or something, apparently. I don't do anything like that, so I'm not sure.
[01:03] <Ish> limit for what? computations?
[01:03] <nds> I run my pc on 256 mb of my 1.4 gb ^-^
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Ish: I only put swap here more recently towards end of last year.  to be honest I am not even sure if the system ever uses it
[01:03] <winston_the_cat> swap is just used to write to memory when you've run out of RAM, I believe
[01:03] <TheGeneral> if you have no swap, your apps will fail to allocate memory once all main memory has been utilized
[01:03] <nds> Limit for amount of memory being used
[01:03] <keithclark> Ok, nobody?
[01:04] <nds> My pc never hits swap
[01:04] <nds> And im only on 1 gb so....
[01:04] <Ish> i like how everyone who knows something instantly jumps when someone says they use a ridiculously high swap
[01:04] <matrixblue> <= 2 gigs RAM
[01:04] <Rtrix> any ubuntu expert here? i really need help with installing gnome
[01:04] <Ish> i'm not even sure if i have any swap, i was just trying to troll the guy who has 60gigs wasted on it
[01:04] <rww> Rtrix: what's up?
[01:04] <TheGeneral> are you talking about a dedicated swap partition, or using a swap file
[01:04] <arkady> hmm, whats' really odd is that my nVidia is SPEEDING UP when I'm not in 3D due to the idle speed being faster than the 3d speed
[01:05] <sebsebseb> Ish: well using a rediculously high swap is retarded,  way better off using that space for hard disk space
[01:05] <funkyHat> Rtrix: gnome is installed on Ubuntu by installing the package ubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <TheGeneral> gnome is installed on ubuntu when you install ubuntu
[01:05] <funkyHat> Rtrix: if that's already installed, then so is Gnome
[01:05] <Ish> that's 60gigs that could be wasted on torrents, or a mythTV setup
[01:05] <Keal> sebastien_ 35gb of my drive is marked to not even user
[01:05] <Keal> use
[01:06] <nds> O.o
[01:06] <Keal> because i had no reason to use the entire drive
[01:06] <Tapout> ubuntu can't tile windows?   I wanna take the 4-6 windows I've got opened, hit tile and it automatically adjusts them perfectly instead of manually messing around
[01:06] <Keal> i have 7 or more partitions :)
[01:06] <nds> I have External drives for everything aside from my packages
[01:06] <munk_> Ish, what do you mean? they are not automounting and they should so how do i fix it?
[01:06] <matrixblue> While we on the topic can you you a flashdrive as swap? (thinking about Vista's Ready boost)
[01:06] <nds> Probably
[01:06] <funkyHat> Tapout: I'm sure Compiz has a plugin that does something like that
[01:06] <arkady> Tapout: I know there are tiling window managers
[01:06] <Keal> the last 35gb partition on the drive is marked to not use
[01:06] <nds> Use gparted and see if it is seen
[01:06] <Ish> Tapout, check out compiz, if you haven't seen it YOU WILL CREAM YOURSELF
[01:06] <Tapout> cpmpiz eh.. ok
[01:06] <Keal> i have 3 60gb partitions etc
[01:06] <TheGeneral> i don't think so, vista has pretty advanced tech for readyboost
[01:07] <Tapout> compiz rather
[01:07] <Ish> munk_, i think you're...screwed...
[01:07] <nyu_> for some reason my resolution resets to 800x600 everytime i reboot
[01:07] <Chaorain> With Compiz I can't get the wallpapers plugin to work. It used to work. Any Help?
[01:07] <arkady> TheGeneral: readyboost?
[01:07] <nds> Ready boost :\
[01:07] <nds> We have the same thing
[01:07] <munk_> Ish, wha? thanks?!
[01:07] <nds> It preloads stuff
[01:07] <Tapout> thanks
[01:07] <nds> Ill get the command for it
[01:07] <Ish> munk_, i'm no expert, i'm just judging this based on the fact that no one will acknowledge that you're here
[01:07] <matrixblue> readyboost is a feature in Vista that allows you to use a flash drive as extra memory
[01:07] <TheGeneral> sorry, was just trolling a little, it's a way in vista to utilize a flash drive to extend your memory
[01:08] <Ish> munk_,  i had kind of the same problem, except lsusb wouldn't even recognize my stuff
[01:08] <n8tuser> vmware-server not available on 8.10 ?
[01:08] <munk_> Ish, yeah i realized i keep asking for help and no one says anything....
[01:08] <arkady> nds: preloading to disks is pointless, flash drives are faster than disk but are creamed by DDR2/3
[01:08] <nds> :\
[01:08] <keithclark> Anyone with a card driver?
[01:08] <nds> Arkady: It preloads to memory if im correct: which im prob not
[01:08] <munk_> Ish, i might reinstall hopefully that will fix it...thanks that you at least said something lol
[01:08] <Ish> munk_, I ended up jigglin the cord and it eventually worked.  all i can say is that if lsusb recognizes it then it should be there
[01:08] <nds> sudo apt-get install preload
[01:09] <nds> There
[01:09] <matrixblue> what's the prob munk?
[01:09] <Ish> munk_, what usb things are you trying to get to work?
[01:09] <nds> It preloads most used binaries to memory
[01:09] <funkyHat> munk_: are the USB drives formatted? if there is no filesystem on them they will not be able to automount
[01:09] <arkady> ahh, interesting. also look at prelink
[01:09] <nds> :)
[01:09] <nds> Poit for the noob :D
[01:09] <Ish> munk_, funkyHat brings a good point to the table, so my question of exactly what you're hoking up stands
[01:09] <munk_> Ish, mp3 players, hard drives and such...they worked before..
[01:09] <arkady> for some reason recently-run binaries tend to run quickly. that's without doing anything fancy, and on most OSes
[01:10] <itona> hi world, how may i flush a usb-storage device (write all cached data) without unmounting it before the danger of a powerdown?
[01:10] <funkyHat> itona: sync
[01:10] <Ish> munk_, so another operating system reads them?
[01:10] <itona> thanks!
[01:10] <itona> once i knew it...
[01:11] <funkyHat> :)
[01:11] <munk_> Ish, yeah they do..
[01:11] <russia213> Anyone good with HAL .fdi files?
[01:11] <nds> :) I just got my first tar.gz to run :)
[01:11] <winston_the_cat> nds: gratz
[01:11] <funkyHat> munk_: can you mount them manually?
[01:11]  * nds is learning lots lol
[01:12] <bbelt16ag> hey peeps
[01:12] <winston_the_cat> nds: it can be tricky if either "./configure" or "make" throw lots of errors
[01:12] <arkady> itona: I believe by remounting it
[01:12] <Ish> lol, yeah, i love when people write horrible code and release it, only to have huge errors come back
[01:12] <bbelt16ag> i am  back now i am trying to get my script suspend.sh to be ran when  the gnome power management tools (timer gets to  1 hr) and then suspend the machine.. is this possible?
[01:12] <nds> :s
[01:12] <scroat> hello.
[01:12] <nds> It didnt hough, so dont rain on my parade :D
[01:12] <scroat> anyone install fglrx for a Radeon RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]   ?
[01:12] <munk_> hmmm...didnt try...how do you do that again?
[01:12] <nds> *though
[01:13] <scroat> im on ATI's web site, and there is nothing for X1200
[01:13] <Ish> munk_, have you used usb devices on this machine before?  and yeah, look into mounting manually...
[01:13] <Chaorain> is there a way to become an "Official" linux guru?
[01:13] <Ish> climb mount torvald
[01:13] <scroat> Chaorain: there are certifications
[01:13] <munk_> Ish, yep i did..
[01:14] <SayaSanae> como es la sala de ubuntu en espa;ol?
[01:14] <arkady> itona: oh, "sync" command, which until around 2006 hasn't been looked at so there is a chance that it's still not fixed
[01:14] <bazhang> !es
[01:14] <Chaorain> scroat, any clue where to get one?
[01:14] <sjcire> Recently I changed /etc/ssh/ssh_config. I changes port=22 ---> port=nnn. After I did this all my ssh bookmarks in the nautilus explorer stopped working. I could still login to the ssh shell from a terminal but it required that I include the -p nnn option. The servers still worked. I can get the nautilus to connect to the ssh thought sftp interactive mode by including a port specification. I now use sftp://user@server:22/folder instead of 
[01:15] <funkyHat> munk_: first of all find out what device name the USB disc has (it will be something like /dev/sdc1), you might be able to find this by looking at what the command 'dmesg' returns after you plug the drive in
[01:15] <scroat> Chaorain: google up on Linux+  LPC
[01:15] <yoyit2> sebsebseb:  it wont let me resize it
[01:15] <matrixblue> munk: have you tried another usb port?
[01:16] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: turn the swap off first.  right click and  swapoff
[01:16] <nds> hello sebsebseb :)
[01:16] <sebsebseb> nds: what do you want?
[01:16] <scroat> i need fglrx drivers.
[01:16] <nds> Nothing :'( Just saying hi
[01:16] <nds> I have this horrid tendency to be polite, itll probably kill me one day :(
[01:16] <yoyit2> sebsebseb:  if you can turn it off then whats the point of having it?
[01:17] <matrixblue> scroat: find the right version of catalyst
[01:17] <Ish> Chaorain, you have to find Linus Torvalds, and give him the secret handshake
[01:17] <bonez46> scunizi: what if I can't remember? Is there no way to access them and manually update grub?
[01:17] <arkady> either creating a popular, or elitist, linux distro, or kernel coding
[01:17] <matrixblue> ATI's Catalyst normally installs the drivers for a few of their cards
[01:17] <Chaorain> Ish, ah
[01:18] <Ish> hit and a miss?
[01:18] <sebsebseb> yoyit2: you turn it off resize, and put it back on again
[01:18] <Ish> *swing and a miss?
[01:18] <bonez46> is 8.10's nickname "Jaunty" then? I didn't know that
[01:18] <yoyit2> sebsebseb: ok, but what is the point of it?
[01:18] <scroat> matrixblue: how do i knwo which is the correct version ?
[01:18] <funkyHat> bonez46: no, 9.04's is
[01:18] <sebsebseb> !swap | yoyit2
[01:18] <bbelt16ag> is there any way of doing this?
[01:18] <funkyHat> bbelt16ag: depends what it is
[01:18] <bonez46> I have never installed anything over 8.10.. one drive runs etch and the other two run 8.10..
[01:18] <matrixblue> search the website
[01:19] <matrixblue> see if the drivers for XP are listed
[01:19] <winston_the_cat> bonez46: 8.10 is "Intrepid Ibex"
[01:19] <bonez46> could this 8.10 live disc see a messed up partition table on those drives and misread it as 'ext4'?
[01:19] <bonez46> winston_the_cat: ok, thanks for the update
[01:19] <yoyit2> sebsebseb: what is the point of having an extra sda2 that is 5.42GBs.. what is this?
[01:19] <Ish> which was juanty?
[01:19] <codeuser> Hello, I am having an issue with compiz fusion. It has suddenly started shading the windows instead of maximizing when I double click the titlebar. How can I change this?
[01:19] <funkyHat> bbelt16ag: sorry for the clever comment ;) I didn't read back to find out what you were talking about
[01:19] <arkady> bonez46: err, that's strange, because ext4 drives appear as ext3 in cfdisk
[01:20] <bbelt16ag> i am  back now i am trying to get my script suspend.sh to be ran when  the gnome power management tools (timer gets to  1 hr) and then suspend the machine.. is this possible?
[01:20] <bbelt16ag> there u  go funkyhat
[01:20] <Chaorain> I heard ext4 is being useed in 9.04. What is the big deal about Ext4? faster?
[01:20] <bbelt16ag> even if there  is a  script i could write,
[01:20] <codeuser> Chaorain: yes
[01:20] <matrixblue> yes ext4 is hella faster
[01:20] <scroat> is the best way to install fglrx via System > Hardware Drivers ?
[01:20] <codeuser> Hello, I am having an issue with compiz fusion. It has suddenly started shading the windows instead of maximizing when I double click the titlebar. How can I change this?
[01:20] <sprinkmeier> Chaorain, extents, large file support!
[01:20] <winston_the_cat> !ext4
[01:21] <bbelt16ag> brb gonna  try something
[01:21] <Ish> !compiz
[01:21] <matrixblue> if you can find the driver is there then yes install it
[01:21] <Ish> !compiz-fusion
[01:21] <matrixblue> I'm running Jaunty Beta with ex4
[01:21] <codeuser> !compiz-fusion
[01:21] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: your in the wrong channel
[01:21] <matrixblue> and I can attest to noticable speed boosts
[01:21] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: jaunty is also in development
[01:21] <codeuser> compiz fusion is the product of compiz and beryl being combined together.
[01:22] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: yes expect bugs also and jaunty talk is off topic here and so #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <codeuser> its whats in the repos
[01:22] <arkady> ext4 is stable, but you can expect bugs for a while later
[01:22] <sebsebseb> arkady: there's a data loss bug with Ext4
[01:22] <codeuser> Hello, I am having an issue with compiz fusion. It has suddenly started shading the windows instead of maximizing when I double click the titlebar. Can anyone tell me how can I change this?
[01:22] <humbolt> I never would have thought, that installing from USB would be such a hassle!!!!!!
[01:22] <louiscvh> hi somebody know how to create user in mysql ?
[01:23] <arkady> sebsebseb: exactly, just because it's in stable kernel doesn't mean you should "upgrade now"
[01:23] <matrixblue> I heard about some people who reported data loss with ext4 due to the delayed write feature
[01:23] <humbolt> I find it disturbing, that a CD-Rom is still required for Installation1!!
[01:23] <Chaorain> my Compiz wallpapers plugin is not working at all is there another setting that needs to be changed?
[01:23] <rww> humbolt: it's not.
[01:23] <Ish> cdrom? you can totally netinstall
[01:23] <n8tuser> louiscvh -> have you done a tutorial on mysql? if not, kindly do one please
[01:23] <nds> huh, figures, I reinstalled Ubuntu, and now I found the command to fix it ;(
[01:24] <Ish> oh god i hate mysql, don't even get me started!!! RAAAAAAGE
[01:24] <arkady> you can use unetbootin too
[01:24] <sebsebseb> arkady: I will get Alpha 6  soonish, not tonight,  but I am keeping Ext3 for now
[01:24] <arkady> you can even go bluray!
[01:24] <bbelt16ag> ok now it seems to be working, and why the heck can hibernate  bring back my old session in gnome instead of  creating a new plain session with no apps that were running etc.. ?????
[01:24] <Ish> the bad part is, it's been so long since i've worked with it that i'm going to have to look up the commands all over again
[01:24] <winston_the_cat> codeuser: you might want to check your settings in Compiz-Fusion Settings Manager
[01:24] <humbolt> rww: It is. Creating an USB media from the Live CD worked ... but the installer would crash.
[01:24] <sebsebseb> arkady: what???//
[01:25] <codeuser> winston_the_cat: where is this setting located in there. I have looked
[01:25] <rww> humbolt: I've used http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ several times. It works perfectly for me.
[01:25] <bonez46> arkady  ok,.. but how can I get 8.10 desk to see those drives then, or can't I?
[01:25] <arkady> sebsebseb: http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/debian_lenny_with_blu_ray_images_and_live_cd
[01:25] <funkyHat> louiscvh: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/account-management-sql.html
[01:25] <humbolt> rww: Creating USB media from the alternate CD works also, but the damn installer does not want to proceed without a cdrom.
[01:25] <Chaorain> I hate MySQL took me about 10 hours straight to get it set up for my site. And that was with GUIDED INSTRUCTIONS!!!!
[01:25] <QaDeS> hiyas. how do i update the headers in /usr/include/inux et al after compiling a custom kernel?
[01:25] <arkady> sebsebseb: (you would of course have to create your own from the packages in Ubuntu repos)
[01:25] <humbolt> rww: That does not work!
[01:25] <humbolt> rww: Trash
[01:25] <Ish> Chaorain, lets start a group about how we hate mysql
[01:26] <arkady> humbolt: works in Ubuntu, unlike in Debian
[01:26] <humbolt> arkady: certainly not with the alternate images
[01:26] <rww> humbolt: Again, works for me and plenty of other people, so no, it isn't trash.
[01:26] <BCampbell> anyone have experience with getting an brother hl-4040 cdn printer installed?
[01:26] <humbolt> rww: alternate CD?
[01:26] <sebsebseb> arkady: oh right, well  putting linux on a blueray disc would seem like a waste of one to me
[01:26] <funkyHat> bbelt16ag: I don't know for definite the answer to your question, but adding your script to /etc/acpi/suspend.d looks pretty likely
[01:27] <arkady> humbolt: ah, that's why! there's a trick, you can mount the usb yourself and fiddle with things
[01:27] <winston_the_cat> codeuser: not sure
[01:27] <Ish> it's just a glorified spreadsheet
[01:27] <arkady> humbolt: but it's because whoever wrote the Debian thing didn't really think that anyone would use alternate media
[01:27] <nds> I got this message when chowning my disk chown: changing ownership of `/media/disk1': Operation not permitted
[01:27] <Chaorain> Irc hung
[01:27] <Chaorain> Ish, so where do I sign up?
[01:28] <humbolt> arkady: fiddle with things in unetbootin or in the installer?
[01:28] <arkady> sebsebseb: I know a few people who could fill a blueray disk
[01:28] <Ish> Chaorain, pick a forum
[01:28] <arkady> humbolt: well, in the installer or while installing. I just did it while installing
[01:29] <nds> How do I change my terminal to root
[01:29] <nds> :s
[01:29] <funkyHat> Ish: Chaorain: if you struggle with the mysql command line interface you can install helper programs like phpmyadmin or mysql-administrator (but this is probably getting off topic now so I'll leave it there)
[01:29] <Chaorain> Ish, I use GBATmep.net a lot
[01:29] <humbolt> arkady: I tried different things, but obviously not the right thing. How to I get the damn installer to believe there is a CDrom
[01:29] <Chaorain> Ish, let you know when I get my site up
[01:29] <jere-nii_> Is it possible that this machine is running slow because of multitasking?
[01:29] <nds> !root
[01:30] <Ish> funkyHat, i would need someone to explain phpmyadmin, or the other one...
[01:30] <arkady> humbolt: I recall there being a special bootinstall where you placed an ISO on the USB disk and used it that way
[01:30] <winston_the_cat> nds: use "sudo su"
[01:30] <Ish> i'll google it later
[01:30] <Rtrix> anyone familiar with embedded ubuntu kernel
[01:30] <codeuser> Hello, I am having an issue with compiz fusion. It has suddenly started shading the windows instead of maximizing when I double click the titlebar. How can I change this?
[01:30] <Rtrix> like the one in dell mini9
[01:30] <jere-nii_> All the flashy desktop features are disabled...
[01:30] <jere-nii_> But the system is still running slowly.
[01:30] <nds> hummm, I still get errors :\
[01:30] <joanki123> i just reformatted my computer with my old 7.10 ubuntu... i want to upgrade to the latest stable version.  can i do this?
[01:30] <nds> How can permission be denied to root :|
[01:31] <stpere> hi, I'm having an issue with compiz after upgrading to nvidia drivers 96.43.11
[01:31] <codeuser> joanki123: try opening a terminal and typing 'update-manager -d' without the quotes
[01:31] <humbolt> arkady: Some script put all the files from my CD on the USB disk, and I have another USB pen, which holds the iso image. Just mounting it to /cdrom does not do the trick.
[01:31] <Ish> nds, sudo
[01:31] <stpere> someone know how to fix that? the window decorator seems to be broken
[01:31] <bonez46> arkady: any other ideas on my dilemma... I know if I could get menu.lst straightened out.. I could boot up each disk
[01:31] <funkyHat> joanki123: yes, do what codeuser said, you'll have to upgrade to 8.04 first and then to 8.10
[01:31] <nds> Still doesnt work
[01:31] <arkady> humbolt: http://linux.simple.be/debian/usb
[01:31] <Chaorain> I want to mount /location/of/directory/1/ to /location/of/directory/2/mount/point/
[01:31] <Chaorain> help?
[01:31] <joanki123> funkyHat, is it better to have 8.10 than 8.04?
[01:32] <jere-nii_> Anyway, I don't need raw speed....
[01:32] <humbolt> arkady: but a debian installer will not help me much
[01:32] <Guiri> Hey I have a question specific to the Ubuntu phpBB3 package - What's the login? Even with dpkg-reconfigure there's no prompt to create a phpbb user/login. Yet the package doesn't have the install directory.
[01:32] <arkady> humbolt: I thought the debian iso was pretty much equivalent to the Ubuntu extended installer iso
[01:33] <QaDeS> ah, found it. ty ;)
[01:33] <humbolt> arkady: still, it will use other repositories.
[01:33] <joanki123> funkyHat or codeuser , i did it and it said only partial upgrade available.  should i do partial upgrade?
[01:33] <codeuser> joanki123: no idea... why don't you download the latest installation media from ubuntu.com?
[01:33] <nds> How can permission be denied to root O.O
[01:33] <funkyHat> joanki123: it's up to you, 8.04 is a long term support release so it will have updates for 3 years, 8.10 is a regular release, so you'll get newer versions of programs, but you will need to update to a newer version sooner, depends which you prefer
[01:33] <joanki123> codeuser, because then i have to burn to a cd, right?
[01:33] <arkady> humbolt: you can choose repos can't you?
[01:33] <codeuser> joanki123: or use a flash drive
[01:34] <Guiri> Anyone on phpBB?
[01:34] <humbolt> arkady: yes, sure
[01:34] <joanki123> funkyHat, what would you do.... sorry... just nervous!
[01:34] <funkyHat> codeuser: yes do a partial upgrade, it may remove some packages but they will probably just be libraries that you don't need anymore
[01:34] <Ish> nds, you're sure you're doing "Sudo command"
[01:34] <arkady> humbolt: thats if you want a netinstall, if you don't, then it might be possible to swap out the ISO with a Ubuntu ISO
[01:34] <Ish> except lowercase
[01:34] <funkyHat> joanki123: if something you want is uninstalled by the partial upgrade you can easily install it again once the upgrade is done
[01:34] <joanki123> funkyHat, you meant me, right.  and also, would you go with 8.04 or with 8.10?
[01:34] <funkyHat> joanki123: sorry, yes I meant you
[01:35] <joanki123> i think 8.04 is the better way to go, right.... after all, you want the one that is the most stable....
[01:35] <Alex_21> Hi, I can't use my camera for some reason
[01:35] <stpere> anyone?
[01:35] <Alex_21> It is a PS/2 camera using a PS2/USB adapter
[01:35] <winston_the_cat> joanki123: I just went from 8.04 to 8.10, and 8.10 fixed some of my display problems
[01:35] <nds> Yes I am doing the sudo command
[01:35] <winston_the_cat> joanki123: so it's all up to you
[01:36] <nds> Sudo Chown -R brandon /media/disk/
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> a PS2 camera?
[01:36] <Alex_21> Can anyone help?
[01:36] <joanki123> winston_the_cat, thanks.... decisions decisions....
[01:36] <nds> Is what I type in
[01:36] <Alex_21> Please
[01:36] <Guiri> Okay. Nobody's familiar with phpbb3?
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> cant say that ive ever sene a Camera that plugged into the ps2 port..
[01:36] <joanki123> i had a system crash on hardy because i uninstalled virtualbox and its packages
[01:36] <joanki123> so now i have to reformat
[01:37] <funkyHat> joanki123: personally I would upgrade to 8.10, but I don't mind upgrading my system every 6 months to keep up with the latest release, if 8.04 has all of the features that you want then I would stick with that, and upgrade to 10.04 when it's released, which is the next long term support version (someone correct me if I've got the wrong version)
[01:37] <Alex_21> It is the MINI DYNN cameras actually
[01:37] <joanki123> funkyHat, thanks
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> joanki123,  proberly you dont.. but it pays to learn how to isntall things from the terminal/console/liveccd
[01:38] <nds> How in gods name can Sudo be denied permission ;(
[01:38] <Alex_21> Can I somehow get this to work
[01:38] <Alex_21> ?
[01:38] <arkady> nds: corrupt sudoers file?
[01:38] <nds> No
[01:38] <Flannel> nds: few ways, most common is read only
[01:38] <nds> SUdo works for other things
[01:38] <nds> How can I change that?
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Alex_21: ok you might have to do some configuring to get that to work
[01:38] <sebsebseb> !camera
[01:39] <Alex_21> Sebsebseb: What do you mean?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> Alex_21: you need to be more specific,  about which camera it is exactly and things or people can't really help you
[01:39] <nds> O.O it says my volumes are not mounted
[01:39] <nds> but I see them
[01:39] <nds> :s
[01:39] <sebsebseb> Alex_21: Ubuntu has good hardware suppourt, but not everything will just work
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Alex_21: ,because those manufactures didn't suppourt Ubuntu, but can get most stuff working with know how
[01:40] <Alex_21> It is a Home Centinal Camera connected via Dyn mini port
[01:40] <berat> within temptation what you have done
[01:40] <Alex_21> I'll be back
[01:40] <Alex_21> In a bit
[01:40] <arkady> humbolt: do you know if the kernel really matters in the installer?
[01:41] <bonez46> what is a bad superblock?
[01:41] <nds> WTH
[01:41] <humbolt> arkady: kernel does not matter
[01:41] <louiscvh> how can i delete mysql ?
[01:41] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, bad sector on disk or corrupted superblock (part of the filesystem metadata)
[01:41] <nds> sudo gedit /etc/fstab/ I get an error
[01:41] <nds> :s
[01:41] <ed1t> is there a way to just revert ubuntu to its "factory" settings
[01:41] <nds> sudo: must be setuid root
[01:42] <nomasteryoda> nds, you need to remove the extra slash
[01:42] <sprinkmeier> nds, try "sudo nano ...." sudo-ing X apps can be tricky.
[01:42] <nomasteryoda> at the end
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> nds,  some how you got some permissions really smessed up it seems if sudo is not suid any more
[01:42] <arkady> humbolt: yeah. there's actually a trickier and less Linux dependent way of making flash LiveUSBs from LiveCDs
[01:42] <nds> Yeah :\
[01:42] <nds> Why is this keep happening
[01:42] <nds> I just redid my pc last night from this
[01:42] <sprinkmeier> nds, what does "ls -l `which sudo`" say?
[01:42] <bonez46> sprinkmeier: if I get a message like this > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,   <<  does that mean I need to keep trying, something different or am I outta luck?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> nds,  normally its somthing you did...
[01:42] <arkady> it involves a special version of grub which can chainload off an ISO
[01:43] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, it means the mount command cannot figure out what filesystem is installed, or you're telling it something different from what it's reading (i.e. you're asking to mmount FAT as EXT or something). try "sudo fdisk -l" to get a list of partitions
[01:43] <nds> still wont work
[01:44] <nds> do I have to beeeep reinstall my pc again?
[01:44] <nomasteryoda> nds, did you type "sudo nano /etc/fstab" ?
[01:44] <nomasteryoda> no
[01:44] <nds> I tried
[01:44] <nds> and came back the same
[01:44] <nomasteryoda> nds, try just like i typed there
[01:44] <ed1t> is there a command i can use to reset ubuntu back to its original state without reinstalling?
[01:44] <bluepojo> hi.. I'm having trouble with my sound. One day it just started putting out static.
[01:44] <sprinkmeier> nds, maybe..... if the metadata dor sudo, a system file, got messed up there's no telling what else is wrong (i.e. you can fix sudo easy enough but is that the only thing borked?)
[01:44] <bluepojo> I don't know anything about sound
[01:45] <toni_> Hi folks - I want to install java on my mozilla browser - what package should I download from the synaptic pkg mgr?
[01:45] <bluepojo> so.. any pointers to figure out how to fix it would be great
[01:45] <nds> same error
[01:45] <bonez46> sprinkmeier:  ok. I got those loaded.. I guess I need to brush up on grub and naming conventions for drives.. I can access /boot/grub/menu.lst.  so I should be able to fix each menu.lst so that it can boot up, right?
[01:45] <nds> O.O i have no users
[01:45] <bonez46> is there anything that will read from the BIOS.. what it sees.. which drives and where?
[01:46] <nds> I think another reinstall is in order :s
[01:46] <galag> How Can I start the livecd from grub?
[01:46] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[01:46] <Guiri> Well I have a bone to pick with Jeroen van Wolffelaar or Thijs if they ever wakeup
[01:46] <nomasteryoda> how did he mess that up?
[01:46] <nomasteryoda> trying to hack up sudoers?
[01:46] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, what changed to make you think grub is in pain? changed disks?
[01:46] <joetromondo> Hi, I had to reinstall windows, and now it goes to windows not to linux, might be a GRUB problem....
[01:47] <nomasteryoda> joetromondo, its an mbr problem
[01:47] <nomasteryoda> !mbr
[01:47] <bonez46> sprinkmeier:  yes, removed a working disk from an older machine, put it in this new box.. I built it last year.. but the disk that I know works.. is new.. won't boot here, shows grub ERROR 2..
[01:47] <nomasteryoda> that should make it right joetromondo
[01:47] <sprinkmeier> galag, don't. Just tell the BIOS to boot off the CD, grub not involved
[01:47] <bonez46> sprinkmeier: so I know it's a grub issue..
[01:47] <sajuuk> hey guys, trying to setup my CUPS on my server and despite it being installed and that I have gone through the cupsd.conf file and edited it and made sure its all good, but i can't get 'adduser cupsys shadow' nor can the server see it even has a cupsys service, as in it doesn't stop, restart /etc/init.d/cupsys
[01:47] <Happy-Dude> hiya
[01:47] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, OK.... grub 'lost' the disks.
[01:47] <bonez46> just rusty on hd0,0 and all that stufff
[01:47] <sprinkmeier> !grub | bonez46
[01:48] <bluepojo> anyone know where to start to figure out what I did to my sound?
[01:48] <bonez46> sprinkmeier: yes grub lost the discs
[01:48] <Happy-Dude> question: how do I remove HP Device Manager?
[01:48] <galag> sprinkmeier, I have no CD reader. The files are in a usb disk and my BIOS don't support boot from it. I have the grub in a floppy disk
[01:48] <joetromondo> is not there any way to set that via windows?
[01:49] <theclaw> Hi
[01:49] <sprinkmeier> galag, like making things difficult, don't you :-) Can you plug in a USB-CD-ROM?
[01:50] <arkady> galag: I'm currently testing this with Jaunty, not sure if it'll work properly. http://linux.simple.be/debian/usb
[01:50] <SomethingSnappy> Hi all, I was wondering if there is anyone available who can help me with a video card issue
[01:50] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, run "sudo blkid /dev/sd[ab]*" and use the UUID's in grub (and /etc/fstab). I'll make things more robust in case HDD's change again
[01:50] <galag> sprinkmeier, I have no CD, Just a usb stick, the xubuntu image and a floppy disk.
[01:51] <bonez46> sprinkmeier: does the UUID more explicitly identify each unique drive?
[01:51] <sajuuk> anyone want to help me with my CUPS problem?
[01:51] <scunizi> sajuuk: depends on the problem.. ask your question
[01:52] <galag> sprinkmeier, Grub can the files of the livecd, but I don't know how to make it boot.
[01:52] <sajuuk> scunizi, hey guys, trying to setup my CUPS on my server and despite it being installed and that I have gone through the cupsd.conf file and edited it and made sure its all good, but i can't get 'adduser cupsys shadow' nor can the server see it even has a cupsys service, as in it doesn't stop, restart /etc/init.d/cupsy
[01:52] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, yes. Each partition is given a universally ubnique ID, so no matter where it pops up (/dev/sda, /dev/sdb etc...) it'll be found.
[01:53] <sprinkmeier> galag, sorry, not much of a GRUB expert. All I can suggest is look at the existing lines and mess with them. or get a USB-CDROM.
[01:53] <bonez46> sprinkmeier: ok, that shows all my partitions on all my drives.. I am running 8.10 live cd.. can I then go to /dev/sda2  which is where on the 1st hdd my linux partition is located, and update that /boot/grub/menu.lst with the correct UUID? is that the trick?
[01:54] <sajuuk> scunizi, also when i try to access cups on my server, it see's it but I get a failure to connect
[01:54] <arkady> galag: you'll have to set the root to the USB drive
[01:54] <Guiri> Let me know if anyone is daring enough to spend 5 minutes and install the phpBB3 package on their machine
[01:54] <galag> Does the live cd uses grub to start? Where can I found its menu.lst ??
[01:54] <Guiri> I'd like to prove something
[01:54] <arkady> galag: root (hdX,Y)
[01:54] <galag> arkady, done!
[01:54] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, yes, that should do it. Also make sure the grub bootloader is installed on the active disk (see the !grub links)
[01:54] <scunizi> sajuuk: you doing this on the server install? and are you trying to setup a print server?
[01:55] <galag> arkady, I can see the files, but how can I boot from it?
[01:55] <sajuuk> scunizi, yes and yes
[01:55] <arkady> galag: now you can use the kernel command, the initrd command, and the boot command
[01:55] <sajuuk> scunizi, it is ubuntu 8.10 server
[01:56] <galag> arkady, Those commands is what I'm asking to you...
[01:56] <scunizi> sajuuk: you might try sudo tasksel printserver
[01:56] <SomethingSnappy> I'm trying to replace a video card on a machine running 8.10. Midway into loading Ubuntu [with no graphical problems] it freezes and takes me to a wall of text that I don't understand at all.
[01:57] <sajuuk> scunizi, did it and I got nothing but the usage page
[01:57] <arkady> galag: kernel /<kernelname> root=/dev/<usbdrive>
[01:57] <scunizi> sajuuk: did you install a gui on the server?
[01:57] <arkady> galag: initrd /<initrd-file>
[01:57] <arkady> galag: boot
[01:57] <galag> arkady, and what about init=???
[01:57] <sajuuk> scunizi, nope and it would take 2 days to get one from the internet
[01:58] <scunizi> sajuuk: slow connection?
[01:58] <daws> hola
[01:58] <arkady> galag: not needed
[01:58] <galag> humm..
[01:58] <scroat> hi
[01:58] <sajuuk> scunizi, yeah and I live in australia
[01:58] <galag> arkady, so it will start from squashfs automatically?
[01:58] <scroat> fglrx is installed. but it doesent play quake wars (i hear sound, but distorted visual).  no 3D games.  why?  http://rafb.net/p/fsSpwN27.html
[01:58] <scunizi> sajuuk: how did you get cups installed? via the cd?
[01:59] <galag> arkady, cool man! Just waiting for your ok to restart and try!
[01:59] <sajuuk> scunizi, I think so, I do know its there cos apt-get says it is
[01:59] <arkady> galag: well, try booting and see if there's an error (note those things in <> are info you have to specify
[01:59] <scunizi> sajuuk: k.. hang on a sec
[01:59] <scroat> this is my card.  RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[02:00] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[02:00] <Alex_21> Good night
[02:00] <bonez46> sprinkmeier:  humor me.. what would a mount command look like , using the UUID instead of the /dev/device nomenclature
[02:01] <santous> how do I change the groot device so update-grub doesn't overwrite it?
[02:01] <santous> everytime update-grub runs it changes my groot device.
[02:01] <scunizi> sajuuk: do you still have the cd? and has the sources.lst been modified so it no longer see's the cd as a repository?
[02:01] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, "mount UUID=hex_soup /mnt/directory" instead of "mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/directory". Same optional options....
[02:02] <sajuuk> scunizi, how do I that?
[02:02] <santous> is there a conf file somewhere or something?
[02:02] <scunizi> sajuuk: let me check my sys
[02:02] <bonez46> ok.
[02:02] <jjshoe> (not trolling) is/was ubuntu based off of debian? what does it use for packages?
[02:02] <joanki123> when choosing software sources... do i just check all the sources available?  or is that taxing on my system?
[02:03] <santous> it uses debs
[02:03] <sprinkmeier> jjshoe, yes it is, it uses .deb packages
[02:03] <santous> and yes, it's based off of debian.
[02:03] <joanki123> do i want gutusy-security, updates, proposed, backports, all downloadable from internet, from cd-rom,  third party software?
[02:03] <santous> but, debians update-grub doesn't modify the groot device in menu.lst
[02:03] <Flannel> joanki123: You shouldn't select them all, but not because its taxing.  Don't choose -proposed, and -backports is only so-so.
[02:03] <jjshoe> sprinkmeier any idea on i586 support? I'm lookign at using it on a mini-itx mobo
[02:03] <santous> ubuntu's is doing so, and I cannot figure out why.
[02:03] <joanki123> thanks Flannel
[02:04] <scunizi> sajuuk: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ... this will show you all the repos that are active.. look for a reference for the cdrom and make sure that it doesn't have a "#" at the front of the line.
[02:04] <Flannel> santous: Pastebin your menu.lst before the update-grub
[02:04] <jjshoe> sprinkmeier and is there a netinstall iso?
[02:04] <santous> it's driving me mad
[02:04] <joanki123> Flannel, what about the other ones?
[02:04] <joanki123> are they ok?
[02:04] <sprinkmeier> joanki123, all depends on what you want to do and which options you want available. Adding more repositories gives you more things to install, but not all repositories are equally good/stable
[02:04] <bonez46> sprinkmeier:    something like this ???  >>>  sudo mount UUID="24B85798B85766F8" TYPE="ntfs" /mnt/sda
[02:04] <joanki123> ok... but it's not UNSAFE or taxing on my system to have it
[02:04] <joanki123> i will do that Flannel said if that is the case
[02:04] <joanki123> thanks for the input all
[02:05] <Fezzler> how to install rails.  apt-get install rails   ?
[02:05] <sprinkmeier> jjshoe, no problem with i586. gimme a minute or so to fins the netinstall ISO.....
[02:05] <sajuuk> scunizi, what would it look like in terms of the line referring to the CD, is it blatantly obvious?
[02:05] <Flannel> joanki123: Nah.  The others (gutsy, -updates, -security) are likely enabled already anyway.
[02:05] <bonez46> thanks for your help, sprinkmeier..i greatly appreciate this..
[02:05] <scunizi> sajuuk: just a sec
[02:05] <santous> ugh grep -ri groot on /etc came up blank.
[02:06] <Flannel> !components | joanki123
[02:06] <santous> where the heck is that stored?
[02:06] <jjshoe> sprinkmeier seems like mini.iso, just don't know the code name for the current ubuntu
[02:06] <joanki123> what's the difference between sudo apt-get update and sudo update-manager -d?
[02:06] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, I have not useed the TYPE="..." syntax. Also, it might be "-U hex_soup" instead of "UUID=...", to be honest I've never mounted using UUID and was just cheating by looking at /etc/fstab. TRy it, check man mount....
[02:06] <scunizi> sajuuk: yes.. first two words of the line will be "deb cdrom".. probably also one of the first entries.
[02:06] <sajuuk> scunizi, lines like this # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081028.1)]/ intrepid m$
[02:06] <GeekChick|> Hey, I have a completely corrupted windows registry (to the point that the repair option in the windows install disk wont work). I am trying to mount the partition with ntfs-3g in ubuntu but I am wondering how safe is it to use the '-o force' option when transferring the files to a USB backup hard drive.
[02:06] <Flannel> joanki123: apt-get update will fetch new package information from the internet.  update-manager -d will try nd upgrade you to a development release. (They're extremely different)
[02:06] <scunizi> sajuuk: yep
[02:06] <sajuuk> scunizi, so clear those lines?
[02:07] <joanki123> thank you very much... how often should i sudo update-manager -d?
[02:07] <Cyberkruz> I'm using partimage to make an image of an ntfs partition (/dev/sda1) that I am saving on a usb external drive (/dev/sdb1). I am running partimage from systemrescuecd on a flash drive. I mounted the external using mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /backup and then ran partimage. It saves to about 10%, then I get a big blue screen that says at the top "partimage: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x005468a0 ***ying used data blocks"
[02:07] <scunizi> sajuuk: no don't clear.. just make sure that there isn't a # at the front of the line
[02:07] <Cyberkruz> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:07] <jjshoe> what's the code name for the most current server edition ubuntu?
[02:07] <jjshoe> intrepid?
[02:08] <scunizi> yes
[02:08] <sajuuk> scunizi, ok done
[02:08] <Lord-Jynx> Anyone here know have time to help me with a video card issue?  If put in my 6600GT, ubuntu 8.10+ won't boot
[02:08] <scunizi> sajuuk: save with ctrl+w then exit with ctrl+x..
[02:09] <sajuuk> scunizi, done (i use pico btw)
[02:09] <jjshoe> so if I wanted to install from the net http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/20080522ubuntu23/images/netboot/mini.iso is the best way to go?
[02:09] <JILX2_> any java developer here ???
[02:09] <scunizi> sajuuk: pop the install cd into the drive and then type sudo aptitiude (not apt-get)
[02:09] <sajuuk> rgr gimme a sec
[02:09] <sprinkmeier> jjshoe, http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/intrepid/ has a list of ISO's, netinstall not among them. does it have to be netinstall? (I know debina has one, but I don't know about ubuntu). Normal install will update form 'net if available
[02:09] <Flannel> joanki123: you shouldn't.
[02:10] <jjshoe> sprinkmeier it's not the mini.iso ?
[02:10] <Flannel> joanki123: In the normal process of things you'll be prompted about upgrading, but only after theyre stable, etc.
[02:10] <jjshoe> sprinkmeier http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/20080522ubuntu23/images/netboot/mini.iso
[02:10] <sprinkmeier> jjshoe, not sure where you got mini.iso. Is it debian or ubuntu?
[02:10] <scunizi> sajuuk: on the menu that pops up you'll see a list of catagories .. go to Tasks.. find printserver and tag it for installation.
[02:10] <santous> am I going to have to reinstall just to set a new groot?
[02:11] <santous> that seems excessive.
[02:11] <GeekChick|> Hey, I have a completely corrupted windows registry (to the point that the repair option in the windows install disk wont work). I am trying to mount the partition with ntfs-3g in ubuntu but I am wondering how safe is it to use the '-o force' option when transferring the files to a USB backup hard drive.
[02:11] <Flannel> santous: Did you pastebin it?
[02:11] <santous> pastebin what?
[02:11] <sajuuk> scunizi, ok looks weird, how do i 'find' on this?
[02:11] <santous> groot keeps getting set to the UUID of the disk it put it on on install
[02:11] <santous> The End
[02:11] <sprinkmeier> jjshoe, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[02:12] <scunizi> sajuuk: arrow key down to tasks and hit enter
[02:12] <Flannel> santous: your menu.lst with the modified groot that keeps getting overwritten?
[02:12] <santous> if I change it, and run update-grub, it changes it back.
[02:12] <Flannel> santous: I'd like to see it post change (pre update-grub)
[02:12] <santous> i'm just replacing what's there with root=(hd0,3)
[02:12] <sajuuk> scunizi, yep, it has another branch 'unrecognised tasks'
[02:12] <Flannel> santous: That's the wrong way to do it.
[02:12] <scunizi> sajuuk: yep.. go ther.
[02:12] <scunizi> there
[02:12] <santous> pre update-grub: # groot=(hd0,3)
[02:13] <Flannel> santous: Please pastebin it.
[02:13] <sajuuk> scunizi, which branch am i looking for?
[02:13] <santous> never mind i got it.
[02:13] <sprinkmeier> GeekChick|, image the disk if possible, use read-only mode
[02:13] <santous> adding a line jacks it up
[02:13] <scunizi> sajuuk: print server
[02:13] <santous> you have to replace the groot line, not just add a # to it.
[02:13] <scunizi> sajuuk: brb.. gotta check the pizza
[02:13] <GeekChick|> sprinkmeier, is the option '-r' or -o ro'
[02:13] <santous> i've never remembered having to do that before.
[02:13] <santous> weird.
[02:13] <santous> sokay, thanks, Flannel, it's good to go.
[02:13] <Flannel> santous: Corrct.  You edit that line, and the comments tell update-grub what to write.
[02:14] <sprinkmeier> Geek`N`Proud, "-o ro". Creating an image (using dd_rescue or similar) is the best way to proceed, no way to munge the original if you're not messing with it :-)
[02:14] <helper> helo what 983.5 KiB mean ? what KiB mean ?
[02:14] <scunizi> sajuuk: back.. almost burnt it.
[02:15] <sajuuk> scunizi, ok I am in the Print Server branch and its got a nice set of stuff, get cups and cups
[02:15] <sajuuk> scunizi, damn, I would hate to burn my pizzas
[02:15] <sajuuk> scunizi, pizza is so yum :)
[02:15] <Flannel> helper: KiB [02:15] <Lord-Jynx> Anyone have any ideas why ubuntu wouldn't boot if I put in my 6600GT?
[02:15] <Lord-Jynx> the GUI loading screen doesn't start
[02:15] <scunizi> sajuuk: if possible you should try tagging the Print Server name so it includes everything under it..
[02:16] <helper> Flannel, and mib mean KB ?
[02:16] <Gamerfuzion> hello
[02:16] <nomasteryoda> Lord-Jynx, that is a new nvidia card...
[02:16] <Happy-Dude> Hiya; I've got a question: how do I remove Bluetooth Analyzer?
[02:16] <Pici> helper: technically a kilobyte is 1000 bytes, kibibytes are 1024 bytes.
[02:16] <Flannel> helper: No.  1 MiB == 1024 KiB
[02:16] <Gamerfuzion> ok can someone help me?
[02:16] <Lord-Jynx> .:[nomasteryoda]:. not that new
[02:16] <scunizi> sajuuk: yea.. pizza is good.. easy food when you've been sick for the last 3 days..
[02:16] <Flannel> !anyone | Gamerfuzion
[02:16] <Lord-Jynx> works fine in 8.04
[02:16] <nomasteryoda> Lord-Jynx, should get at least the safe-mode video
[02:17] <sprinkmeier> helper, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI    Kib == "kibi bytes", i.e. 1024 bytes rather than 1000. More accurate, but never caught on
[02:17] <LjL> Pici: pedant.
[02:17] <Lord-Jynx> nomasteryoda grub menu?
[02:17] <Pici> LjL: I'm only answering a question
[02:17] <Happy-Dude> what is the command to remove Bluetooth Analyzer?
[02:17] <LjL> Pici: yes, pedant
[02:17] <ron_stoppable> Lord-Jynx: does it work with a boot CDROM?
[02:17] <Lord-Jynx> nope, if the card is in, it hangs on loading
[02:17] <Gamerfuzion> ok i have been useing ubuntu for a while and i just now added mythbuntu to it and im not going to lie i have no clue how to work it can some body help me?
[02:18] <Lord-Jynx> gets to the first install screen: IE: install ubuntu, then dumps to terminal type screen
[02:18] <Lord-Jynx> if I take it out, works fine
[02:18] <scunizi> sajuuk: if you haven't already you should also tag openssh server
[02:18] <helper> okie thanks i have mikrotik they bot limit tx/rx tx = download rx = i want to limit download 15 KB but i want to write them in bytes
[02:18] <Lord-Jynx> alternate cd installs fine as well but then does the same thing
[02:18] <cactusfrog> "these files should all be owned by that group you just made." 
[02:18] <cactusfrog> what does that mean
[02:18] <nomasteryoda> Lord-Jynx, can switch back to...  Ctrl+Alt+F1 then login and issue a sudo init 1 then choose the bottom option for graphics problems ...
[02:18] <sajuuk> scunizi, ok I pressed g to install and now i got a 'close up' of just the PS stuff
[02:18] <Lord-Jynx> nomasteryoda I can't even get it to boot, that's the problem
[02:18] <monsterkiller> Hi guys
[02:18] <herenbdy> heya, just upgraded to Jaunty Jackelope for the heck of it, and cannot compile my app, as -lGL cannot be found
[02:18] <sajuuk> scunizi, whats next?
[02:18] <herenbdy> a Qt4 app
[02:19] <daws> Hi 2Everybody
[02:19] <Flannel> herenbdy: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[02:19] <scunizi> sajuuk: I'm not really good with aptitude.. Flannel can you help out here? sajuuk needs to use aptitiude to install printserver on his server install.
[02:19] <monsterkiller> i have one Problem. i want to make some automatic Program starts. i have a vserver . i want to start my ts server every reboot....
[02:19] <daws> what name can i configure in network list 2 access 2 irc hispano
[02:19] <nomasteryoda> oh then hit the Esc key at grub and then "e" to edit the first line... and add "single" to the end to get to root mode
[02:20] <Flannel> scunizi, sajuuk: aptitude is functionally equivalent to apt-get, so whatever package you want, you just aptitude install package
[02:20] <nomasteryoda> err, not root mode but maintenance mode ... then "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the device for video to "nv"
[02:20] <nomasteryoda> or vesa
[02:20] <Guest49424> how can i release a dhcp lease from my ISP?because i want to use another laptop
[02:21] <Lord-Jynx> nomasteryoda ok... let me try that.. thanks
[02:21] <Happy-Dude> Hiya; can anyone help me out with the commands to remove/uninstall Bluetooth Analyzer and Palm OS Devices ?
[02:21] <Guest49424> using ubuntu
[02:21] <Quickflip> hey guys , anyone know how to upgrade ubuntu 8.10 to ubuntu studio ?
[02:21] <nomasteryoda> Happy-Dude, sudo apt-get remove btanalyser
[02:21] <cactusfrog> i have a question
[02:21] <nomasteryoda> should do it
[02:21] <cactusfrog> i just messed with my system under root
[02:22] <cactusfrog> and i have the log
[02:22] <sprinkmeier> Guest49424, Are you sure the lease is from your ISP rather than from your ADSL modem/router? what's the address (i.e. 192.168.... is almost certainly from a modem)
[02:22] <mejobloggs> i read somewhere that instead of using webmin in ubuntu, you should use something else. What's the name of that something else?
[02:22] <cactusfrog> and want to unstiall and fix everything i just did
[02:22] <scunizi> Flannel: sajuuk is using the "tasks" section to get the job done.. he's installed cups but I don't think everything installed as there is no demon
[02:22] <sajuuk> scunizi, Flannel thats kinda confusing, so how do i sudo aptitude install a whole section?
[02:22] <sprinkmeier> mejobloggs, xterm :-)
[02:22] <Fezzler> best way to install Ruby on Rails in 8.10?
[02:22] <cactusfrog> so
[02:22] <Flannel> sajuuk: Try using tasksel instead
[02:22] <cactusfrog> anyone have any ideas
[02:22] <scroat> fglrx isn't even working.
[02:22] <Guest49424> sprinkmeier, i just want to use my other laptop to connect to the internet. How do I do this?
[02:23] <scunizi> Flannel: he needs an explicit line
[02:23] <sajuuk> Flannel, scunizi , still confused
[02:23] <Happy-Dude> nomasteryoda: unforuntately, it can't find the package -- but its still in the application menu
[02:23] <Flannel> sajuuk, scunizi: sudo tasksel, then choose print server.  Which I believe is in there.
[02:23] <blahblahblah> I installed Adobe Flash Player. YouTube (with firefox) still doesn't want to accept that its been installed. Solution?
[02:23] <Guest49424> sprinkmeier, yeah..thats my IP ADDresss after ifconfig
[02:23] <sprinkmeier> Guest49424, If the ADSL modem is handing out addresses then there should be no problem giving out two simultaneously. If the ISP is assigning your address, it's likely to be a static address and very unlikely to be handed out using DHCP. What is the IP address you;re trying to give up?
[02:23] <cactusfrog> http://pastebin.com/d33eab8de i just messed wtih that and i want to undo it
[02:23] <n8tuser> Guest49424 -> can you change your nick to something easier to type, something unique
[02:23] <nomasteryoda> Happy-Dude, the Synaptic package manger
[02:23] <cactusfrog> http://pastebin.com/d33eab8de i just messed around in root how do i undo it and start over
[02:23] <scunizi> sajuuk: that's what I was trying to remember previously.. Thanks Flannel
[02:24] <sprinkmeier> Guest49424, just plug in the laptop and see what happens. Chances are you'll get "192.168...n+1"
[02:24] <sajuuk> Flannel, scunizi ok it was already installed (its selected)
[02:24] <cactusfrog> so anyone have any ideas
[02:24] <joetromondo> Hi, im trying to restore my grub after my windows installation. How do I find My partition so I can put the proper root (hdX,X )????
[02:24] <Snicks|TWw> i'm having a problem with compiled source code vs. packages, after i compiled some code and used 'sudo make install' i can't get the command working with my packages, how can i fix that? i think he looks into the wrong directory, because i can see the program itself in /usr/bin
[02:24] <n8tuser> spideryummy -> your router do not have multiple ports?
[02:24] <sprinkmeier> !grub | joetromondo
[02:24] <cactusfrog> i just was messing around in root and watn to fix what i just did heres the log http://pastebin.com/d33eab8de
[02:24] <scunizi> sajuuk: go ahead and reinstall it
[02:25] <scroat> i installed fglrx, 3D games dont play, yet i can see the glx gears.  http://rafb.net/p/J5Dnil86.html
[02:25] <spideryummy> i dont know...i just detach and attach to my other laoptop but it wont connect there
[02:25] <Gamerfuzion> can some one help me with mythbuntu?
[02:25] <spideryummy> only here in my desktoo
[02:25] <Happy-Dude> nomasteryoda: can you help me with the command to uninstall Palm OS Devices?
[02:25] <blahblahblah> I installed Adobe Flash Player. YouTube (with firefox) still doesn't want to accept that its been installed. Solution?
[02:25] <cat1205123> Hey all! Is there a way to search for all instances of a file on a partition? i.e. List the locations of all "foo.txt" files in /home?
[02:25] <sajuuk> scunizi, give it a minute or two i spose
[02:25] <spideryummy> it looks like, i can only connect to internet using thsi PC...but not other laptop
[02:25] <nomasteryoda> Happy-Dude, same thing... open up synaptic, search for Palm
[02:25] <n8tuser> spideryummy -> how is your laptop connected to your router? wireless or ethernet?
[02:25] <spideryummy> ethernet
[02:26] <Happy-Dude> blahblahblah: how'd you install flash?
[02:26] <Gamerfuzion> when seting up mythbuntu what do i but as my user name and pass word and stuff
[02:26] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah: i have the answer
[02:26] <scunizi> sajuuk: :)
[02:26] <n8tuser> spideryummy -> your router has multiple ports right?
[02:26] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah:  its in a text document finding it hold on
[02:26] <scroat> how do i make fglrx work.
[02:26] <nomasteryoda> !flash
[02:26] <joetromondo> I did that , but in grub mode when I put find /boot/grub/stage1  it says file no found
[02:26] <spideryummy> n8tuser,maybe..let me see
[02:26] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, right kind of cable? desktop may have gigabit (auto-sensing) whereas laptop might not (and require straight/cross-over cable). Do you get the blinkenlights on the ethernet ort indicating connection?
[02:26] <sajuuk> scunizi, still sitting at 0%, its not hanging is it?
[02:26] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah:  ok type this in terminal sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozilla-plugin-gnash
[02:26] <blahblahblah> Happy-Dude: downloaded the .tar.gz, extracted and ran the install file as a terminal app as my admin user
[02:26] <scunizi> sajuuk: is the cdrom light on occationally?
[02:27] <sajuuk> scunizi, let me check
[02:27] <spideryummy> sprinkmeier, there is a power supply attached to the cable...
[02:27] <cactusfrog> ok
[02:27] <cactusfrog> i have a problem
[02:27] <sajuuk> scunizi, the server is sitting on the other side of the house XD
[02:27] <cactusfrog> i messsed around in root
[02:27] <spideryummy> and some sort of adapter...dont know why
[02:27] <cactusfrog> and i want to undo what i just did
[02:27] <cactusfrog> how do i do that
[02:27] <FloodBot3> cactusfrog: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:27] <spideryummy> hey, i just want to switch this cable to my laptop and make it work...
[02:27] <cactusfrog> FloodBot: ok i wont
[02:27] <Gamerfuzion> can some one plz help me
[02:27] <scunizi> sajuuk: ah!  you do like me. hiding it from the wife?
[02:27] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, probably wrong cable... I was thinking of the RJ45 network cable. Are you attaching wirelessly?
[02:27] <spideryummy> but cant do
[02:27] <spideryummy> wired
[02:28] <spideryummy> sprinkmeier, cable works in PC1. I move the cable to laptop. Didnt work...
[02:28] <Happy-Dude> blahblahblah: if you got FF (or a gecko based browser) -- you coulda gotten the .deb; unless you didn't want to do that?
[02:28] <cactusfrog> ok i am really want to undo what i just did how do i do so!!!!!!!!!!! its starting to get anoying i payed 140 for ubantu and the IRC sucks
[02:28] <spideryummy> its that simple...
[02:28] <blahblahblah> cactusfrog: run it as root, right? ;)
[02:28] <Gamerfuzion> =(
[02:28] <spideryummy> why?
[02:28] <blahblahblah> Happy-Dude: the package manager doesn't seem to like the .deb
[02:28] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah: ya
[02:29] <spideryummy> it seems, that only this PC is accepted.
[02:29] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, no lights? can you run "dmesg" beforre/after pluggging in the cable to see how the system reacts?
[02:29] <blahblahblah> cactusfrog: that's cool ;)
[02:29] <nomasteryoda> Happy-Dude, the best case is to use the one supplied in the repos
[02:29] <cactusfrog> ctl alt f1 dont ever press it
[02:29] <sajuuk> scunizi, nah under my dads desk :)
[02:29] <cactusfrog> hello
[02:29] <lazukars_> How do you ssh into a webserver?
[02:29] <cactusfrog> i am wondering if anyone knows how to undo changes i made
[02:29] <sajuuk> scunizi, btw no lights were flashing and tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[02:29] <cactusfrog> i want to get rid of a group
[02:29] <cactusfrog> and
[02:30] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, the ADSL modem has only a single port I take it. Did you run anything special on the PC (like a PPPOE daemon) to get it to work?
[02:30] <cactusfrog> install
[02:30] <blahblahblah> cactusfrog: k, so, type that in terminal, as root, press ctk alt f1 and then come in here and ask how I borked my system, right? ;)
[02:30] <jere-nii_> I'm trying to install apache2 and php5 with mod_fcgid
[02:30] <spideryummy> guys, how can release IP
[02:30] <blahblahblah> brb
[02:30] <spideryummy> i think thats the problem?
[02:30] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah: no i was kidding
[02:30] <jere-nii_> In terminal, I get this error: "Module php5 does not exist!"
[02:30] <scunizi> sajuuk: is this a pretty fresh install?
[02:30] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah:  just type  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozilla-plugin-gnash
[02:30] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah: that should fix
[02:30] <jere-nii_> I'm at codebit 3 section 2, here: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-apache2-with-mod_fcgid-and-php5-on-ubuntu-8.10
[02:30] <spideryummy> sprinkmeier, no
[02:30] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah: it
[02:30] <sajuuk> scunizi, nah its got some love in it, 3 months old
[02:31] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, releasing the IP is most likely not your problem It seems that networking between laptop and modem isn't working (what lights on the laptop/modem ports change when you change the cable from PC to laptop?).
[02:31] <spideryummy> if I trasnfer this ethernet cable to laptop,..it should work..but it didnt
[02:31] <spideryummy> no light
[02:31] <spideryummy> even in pc
[02:31] <cactusfrog> ok i am having truble getting help basicly i want to get rid of a group i just added
[02:31] <jere-nii_> now before I get this error, it says: "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"
[02:31] <blahblahblah> okay, once again, Flash has been installed. Firefox apparently doesn't get the message.
[02:31] <cat1205123> Hey all! Is there a way to search for all instances of a file in a directory? For example, is there an easy way to list the locations of all the "foo.txt" files in /home?
[02:31] <scunizi> sajuuk: too bad.. I'd say just reinstall.. but you can use aptitude and look under the task section to see if there were any packages you missed when installing cups
[02:31] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, OK... do you know if the laptop has working ethernet? i.e. does it work somewhere else?
[02:31] <jere-nii_> Can anyone help me out with this?  I'm trying to set up a CMS
[02:31] <spideryummy> of course,..,.
[02:31] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah: did you restart firefox
[02:31] <spideryummy> yes
[02:31] <blahblahblah> es
[02:31] <blahblahblah> yes
[02:31] <Happy-Dude> did you restart firefox, blahblahblah?
[02:31] <sajuuk> scunizi, hmm can i PM you for a sec?
[02:32] <jere-nii_> cactus are you talking to me?
[02:32] <spideryummy> i will remove this cable now and transfer to laptop..it will not work!
[02:32] <cactusfrog> yes
[02:32] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, Can you try a different cable? a cross-over or straight-through?
[02:32] <cactusfrog> i am talking to anyone
[02:32] <cactusfrog> i need to unistall some files i just unzipped
[02:32] <n8tuser> spideryummy -> whats the os in your laptop?
[02:32] <scunizi> sajuuk: ok
[02:32] <cactusfrog> i have the
[02:32] <jere-nii_> No.  But do I need to restart firefox?
[02:32] <spideryummy> ubuntu botgh
[02:32] <spideryummy> ubuntu both
[02:32] <cactusfrog> log here
[02:32] <n8tuser> spideryummy -> compare their respective  /etc/network/interfaces  are they the same?
[02:33] <spideryummy> of course..fresh install
[02:33] <spideryummy> all clean
[02:33] <spideryummy> no mess
[02:33] <spideryummy> if i move the cable there..it wont work..
[02:33] <spideryummy> even dhclient
[02:33] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah: see if this works
[02:33] <n8tuser> spideryummy -> you do this on the non working one,   sudo lshw -C network and post it
[02:33] <cactusfrog> blahblahblah:    	 	 	 	 	 	   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:33] <n8tuser> !who | spideryummy
[02:34] <sprinkmeier> spideryummy, until you can get some lights to come up when you plug in the cable I'd suspect the cable. Do you know if the PC is sgigabit? Can you try plugging the PC into the laptop (i.e. if the cable is the wrong gender for the laptop and ADSL to talk then maybe we can at least confirm basic ethernet by getting the laptop and gigabit-autoisensing PC to talk)
[02:35] <joetromondo> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[02:35] <joetromondo> Error 15: File not found
[02:35] <joetromondo> grub> find /boot/stage1
[02:35] <joetromondo> Error 15: File not found
[02:35] <joetromondo> grub>
[02:35] <FloodBot3> joetromondo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:37] <mejobloggs> can someone give me tips on how to install ubuntu over the network?
[02:37] <cl428> forget root password
[02:37] <guest__> cl428: you forgot?
[02:38] <mejobloggs> lan
[02:38] <guest_007> mejobloggs: no CD-rom?
[02:38] <cl428> yes   I  forgot my root password
[02:39] <Prm753> testing something, I ran firefox as root. Now my firefox settings won't save, like my home page for example. I read somewhere that I should use chown to change the .mozilla directory, but that only locked me out of the folder. Now I have the permissions back, but every time I open firefox the home page is at the ubuntu default.
[02:39] <sprinkmeier> cl428, boot insto single user mode and reset it.
[02:39] <kitche> cl428: well since ubuntu does not set a root password unless you set one yourself you will need to use a livecd and chroot into your system and issue the command passwd
[02:39] <guest_007> cl428: reboot, go to boot menu, press e, find boot options press e and add "single" - w/o ". enter, press b to boot. then change password (In single mode)
[02:40] <sprinkmeier> Prm753, try renaming .mozilla   it'll be re-created next time you start FF and should have permissions etc. correct.
[02:40] <cl428> I know
[02:40] <kitche> hmmm I wonder if that actually works if root has a password on it
[02:40] <joetromondo> Any Ideast how to set up my grub to boot ubuntu again
[02:40] <kitche> since lasttime I knew it does not
[02:40] <joetromondo> ?
[02:40] <sprinkmeier> kitche, by default, yes. You can do things like set grub passwords to prevent it, but by and large if you can get to the physical media you an ownz it :-)
[02:40] <jsjones> joetromondo: boot with a live cd, and edit your grub menu
[02:41] <joetromondo> jsjones: Im trying to do that now
[02:41] <joetromondo> but the problem is
[02:41] <kitche> sprinkmeier: yes I know that but last tiem I tried it if root had a password you still needed the password to log in unless you did some fancy stuff with grub
[02:41] <phpwn> hello
[02:41] <joetromondo> in grub says file no found
[02:41] <arkady> init=/bin/sh
[02:41] <joetromondo> jsjones: got it
[02:41] <p1r0> hi all. I'm writting a little app and it has a binary and a media folder (contains the icons for now) can anyone point as to where I should put these files in an installation?
[02:41] <joetromondo> jsjones: got it?
[02:42] <p1r0> is this the place to ask this?
[02:42] <zelrikriando> I have a problem with irssi
[02:42] <Prm753> and if i want to restore my bookmarks, can i copy the bookmarks folder over to the new .mozilla folder?
[02:42] <phpwn> i've just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I have a Creative X-Fi card and installed the drivers, but I can't seem to get 5.1 surround sound to work... the ALSA drivers dont seem to output any sound at all
[02:42] <jsjones> joetromondo: okay
[02:42] <dronix> Prm753
[02:42] <phpwn> should i switch to Ubuntu 8.04 ? could it be better for that?
[02:42] <dronix> Prm753: u can import your bookmarks using firefox
[02:42] <zelrikriando> how to switch from more than 10 windows on irssi
[02:42] <phpwn> and the OSS drivers only give me stereo sound for some reason
[02:42] <Happy-Dude> phpwn: what is your reasoning/ what do you need?
[02:42] <joetromondo> jsjones: I mean , im still with the same problem
[02:42] <sprinkmeier> kitche, ok, back to 'boot off live CD and mangle /etc/shadow'
[02:42] <phpwn> I would like to have full surround sound
[02:43] <joetromondo> jsjones: in grub  find /grub/stage1 => File not found
[02:43] <phpwn> I downloaded the film Elephants Dream but it only plays in stereo in VLC or other media players
[02:43] <kitche> sprinkmeier: you don't even have to touch shadow for my way of repairing a lost password
[02:43] <jsjones> joetromondo: you could try reinstalling grub
[02:44] <phpwn> and only when I use OSS drivers
[02:44] <Happy-Dude> phpwn: think it might be a media player setting?
[02:44] <phpwn> i set the media players all to 5.1 mode
[02:44] <joetromondo> jsjones: how do I do that?
[02:44] <Happy-Dude> phpwn: or might you have an outdated driver?
[02:44] <phpwn> i downloaded the open source linux driver from Creative's site
[02:44] <sprinkmeier> kitche, correct. but 'chown' requires the live CD and the installed system to be the same bit-ed-ness (32 or 64). swings and roundabouts :-)
[02:44] <Prm753> that did the trick. thanks!
[02:45] <louiscvh> hey why this stupid error cant modify my mysql ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[02:45] <jsjones> joetromondo: well do you know what happened that messed up grub originally?
[02:45] <phpwn> is 8.10 an unstable/experimental build? is it worse/better than 8.04?
[02:45] <user_1> hey guys trying to configure my firefox to use plugins.. i have enabled and install mplayer.. but im running into trouble with a website that requires directx ... i guess IIS dunno.. but it doesnt look like i can stream the online radio from this site without ... anybody got any recs as how to handle
[02:45] <user_1> the site is korean..
[02:45] <joetromondo> jsjones: Yep, I reinstalled windows vista
[02:46] <sprinkmeier> phpwn, 8.10 is the current build. 9.04 is currently the 'stable/alpha' one. 8.04 is LTS (long-term support)
[02:46] <sebsebseb> phpwn: 8.10 is stable
[02:46] <Happy-Dude> phpwn: Ubuntu 8.10 is stable, intrepid ibex; ubuntu 9.04 alpha is unstable, juanty kackelope
[02:46] <phpwn> ah i see
[02:46] <Happy-Dude> jaunty jackelope*
[02:46] <phpwn> hm
[02:46] <p1r0> louiscvh: trt  mysql --user=root --pass mysql
[02:46] <jsjones> joetromondo: there should be an easy way to fix that, hold on
[02:46] <p1r0> and set the new root password
[02:46] <phpwn> has anyone had success with the X-Fi sound card in ubuntu then?
[02:46] <kitche> user_1: if the site requires Internet explorer then you can't use the site unless you get agent changer and sometimes that does not even work
[02:47] <arkady> phpwn: only with OSS4, which is slightly nonuserfriendly
[02:47] <phpwn> in my sound controls i see "OSS Drivers" and "ALSA Drivers"
[02:47] <phpwn> the OSS give me stereo sound
[02:47] <phpwn> but ALSA give me nothing
[02:47] <arkady> phpwn: well, you aren't really using OSS drivers
[02:48] <jsjones> joetromondo: try following this guide- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:48] <phpwn> do you know if it's possible to get surround sound with the OSS?
[02:48] <phpwn> oh
[02:48] <louiscvh> thanks plr0
[02:48] <phpwn> so I have to install something different?
[02:48] <rdw200169> phpwn, yeah, like arkady said, there really is no OSS
[02:48] <rdw200169> phpwn, its all asla
[02:48] <arkady> rdw200169: there is no OSS /in Ubuntu/
[02:48] <joetromondo> jsjones: I did try that
[02:48] <phpwn> *head explodes*
[02:48] <rdw200169> arkady, true, true
[02:49] <rdw200169> phpwn, are you running pulseaudio?
[02:49] <p1r0> louiscvh: you are welcome. did it work?
[02:49] <arkady> phpwn: rdw200169: there really is an OSS, and it's available but as a separate deb. You don't want to use pulse with OSS4
[02:49] <phpwn> I'm not quite sure, i see it in the list as well
[02:49] <joetromondo> jsjones: But like I said, its returnning File not found
[02:49] <louiscvh> yes
[02:49] <louiscvh> somebody know about php nuke
[02:49] <kitche> arkady: I bet ubuntu does have OSS but it's not OSS4
[02:49] <blahblah1lah> i've installed flash player (with no error messages). restarted firefox and still, youtube tells me that i still don't have it installed (FireFox). Now what? solution?
[02:49] <phpwn> so I should install OSS4 separately?
[02:49] <phpwn> and use that?
[02:49] <rdw200169> phpwn, no.
[02:49] <arkady> not if you have support from Canonical
[02:50] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, are you running add-ons like flashblock?
[02:50] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: not to my knowledge. if it's not a default in firefox then no
[02:50] <arkady> kitche: it has alsa's OSS emulation layer, which, to tell the truth, is junk
[02:50] <phpwn> sorry, i have no idea what the terms Pulseaudio, Canonical, etc do for me in my situation :(
[02:50] <blahblah1lah> and javascript and java are enabled in FireFox
[02:50] <kitche> arkady: hmm that's only if you use alsa which ubuntu does not use by default
[02:50] <phpwn> I've seen the word Pulseaudio somewhere in the sound setup
[02:51] <phpwn> but not sure if i'm running it, or what
[02:51] <rdw200169> phpwn, ok, try this in the terminal: ps -AF | grep pulse
[02:51] <arkady> kitche: err, Ubuntu DOES use alsa
[02:51] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, can you try a different size (like the adobe test-flash site) to confirm/deny that flash is working?
[02:51] <phpwn> ok
[02:51] <kitche> arkady: hmm last tiem I checked everything is set to use pulseaudio by default
[02:51] <blahblah1lah> sure. link please?
[02:51] <Awsoonn_> How do I set up my bluetooth headset?
[02:51] <blahblah1lah> i can google it actually
[02:52] <arkady> I'm not saying OSS4 is a good idea, just that if it's the only thing that works then it has to be better
[02:52] <rdw200169> phpwn, it *should* mention that the pulseaudio daemon is running, if that is the case, install the pulseaudio taskbar applet
[02:52] <Pelo> Awsoonn_, I beleive there is a bleutooth gui in the system menu, if not , check in synaptic for one
[02:52] <arkady> kitche: yes, but pulseaudio is another layer in between
[02:52] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ should do it
[02:52] <Pelo> do we have a release date for jaunty or is it too soon to ask ?
[02:53] <Awsoonn_> Pelo: April 23rd
[02:53] <rdw200169> Pelo, April 23
[02:53] <jsjones> joetromondo: did you try using an Alternate install cd?
[02:53] <Happy-Dude> Pelo: apr--- beat me to it
[02:53] <kitche> arkady: ummm ok if you say so since pulseaudio is not another layer between alsa and the system
[02:53] <blahblah1lah> heh, it wants me to install sockwave, flashplayer and enable javascript.
[02:53] <joetromondo> jsjones: I dont have any other linux live cds
[02:53] <blahblah1lah> I already installed flashplayer and I know JScript is enabled
[02:53] <sdMark> I love this OS..sorry, I'm just a tiny User.
[02:53] <arkady> kitche: pulseaudio depends on alsa
[02:53] <kitche> Pelo: why not check the #ubuntu+1 channel and see?
[02:54] <arkady> kitche: it does other stuff like RTP streaming, etc, but needs alsa to handle the local sound card
[02:54] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, if adobe can't find flash then youtube won't either.... check FF options to make sure flash is enabled?
[02:54] <jsjones> joetromondo: You can use an "Alternate Install CD" instead of a "Live CD"
[02:54] <rdw200169> yeah, if you check the pulseaudio website, they describe in detail how it works.  in ubuntu, it uses alsa as the link to the soundcard
[02:54] <sprinkmeier> !who | blahblah1lah
[02:54] <Pelo> kitche,  I started by asking  ubottu  but it didn'T have the info
[02:54] <kitche> Pelo: usually the channel has it in the topic if there is a date
[02:54] <jsjones> joetronondo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#The%20GUI%20Way:%20Using%20the%20Alternate/Install%20CD%20and%20Overwriting%20the%20Windows%20bootloader
[02:54]  * blahblah1lah ignores the bots and their useless autoresponses
[02:54] <sprinkmeier> Pelo, end april (did I hear 23rd?)
[02:55] <arkady> kitche: then explain this: Default Sink: alsa_output.pci_8086_284b_sound_card_0_alsa_playback_0
[02:55] <Ish> any idea why the max speed for my dvd-burner has a max speed for the dvd-rw of 2x, but only burns at .6x?
[02:55] <Pelo> Awsoonn_, , apt-get install bluetooth-gnome
[02:55] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: alright, let me look once more at that..
[02:55] <anabolix> anyone know how to detect bluetooth devices through CLI?
[02:55] <Pelo> Awsoonn_, sorry  gnome-bluetooth
[02:55] <arkady> anabolix: hcitool scan
[02:55] <b1n42y> how to install X on server, i googled but there seem to be conflicting views
[02:55] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: it doesn't make sense to me though that i'd have installed flash player and that it wouldn't be enabled
[02:56] <sdMark> Bye/Goodnite..just a user. Thanks for making Ubuntu.
[02:56] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: which menu should i check at?
[02:56] <panfist> I'm in the 8.10 live CD and if I do lspci i see: Ethernet Controller: Atheros Communcations Inc. AR242x 80211abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter, but if I do ifconfig it is not listed as an interface. how do i bring it up
[02:56] <kitche> b1n42y: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg or just use plain xorg to make sure you get all of it
[02:56] <kitche> b1n42y: then if you need to install gnome or another DE/WM
[02:56] <Lord-Jynx> anyone here know why a 6600GT would stop ubuntu from loading?
[02:57] <Pelo> later folks
[02:57] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, edit->prefs->security? (not running FF at the moment, going from memory...)
[02:57] <Lord-Jynx> I've done the recovery mode and updated to an nvidia driver
[02:58] <Lord-Jynx> last message with ALT_F1 shows kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
[02:58] <Lord-Jynx> and just sits there
[02:58] <jsjones> What is the best way to install Java on ubuntu (8.10)?
[02:58] <Lord-Jynx> package manager jscinoz-m1330
[02:58] <sprinkmeier> jsjones, synaptic
[02:58] <Lord-Jynx> package manager jsjones that is
[02:58] <jsjones> thank you
[02:59] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: there's no setting that would indicate it would be disabled.
[02:59] <needhelp> Hello, How can I disable SCIM ? It keeps switching to chinese (or other odd language) input characters because I always accidently touches some hotkeys. It gets annoying always having to switch back...
[02:59] <arkady> jsjones: sun-java6-jre or sun-java6-jdk depending on what you need
[02:59] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: Adobe Flash player, that is
[03:00] <blahblah1lah> needhelp: try going to System -> Preferences -> keyboard shortcuts. maybe something was changed there
[03:00] <sajuuk_> scunizi, still there?
[03:01] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, did you install flash as root (i.e. is it available for everyone?) does it work from another account? Are you going through some sort of proxy/.firewall/filter that might be disabling flash?
[03:01] <needhelp> blahblah1lah: could not find it there
[03:02] <scunizi> sajuuk_: yep
[03:02] <blahblah1lah> yes I installed as root. I don't have another account to test with at the moment. no proxy or firewall. This has happened before, even after updateing Ubuntu after install
[03:02] <scunizi> sajuuk_: what happened?
[03:02] <sajuuk_> scunizi, look in pm :)
[03:03] <crunchbang> hello
[03:03] <ebdrake> Hello
[03:03] <crunchbang> Anyone else here trying out crunchbang linux tonight?
[03:03] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, try the gust login (8.10 right?) to see if it's just something to do with your account. FF-Flash should work out of the box...
[03:03] <ebdrake> How come this... "unrar e *.rar" doesn't work?  Or more precisely what is the correct way to do this?
[03:03] <sprinkmeier> s/gust/guest/
[03:04]  * Daddy_TK{li} is away: Gone away for now
[03:04] <jsjones> What recommendations do you all have for a Java IDE for ubuntu?
[03:04] <jjshoe> sprinkmeier that worked out just fine for me, thanks for the help
[03:04] <sprinkmeier> ebdrake, error message?
[03:04] <kitche> !away > Daddy_TK{li}
[03:04] <jjshoe> jsjones eclipse.
[03:04] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: this is the main administrative account. no reason why it shouldn't work in this account, of all accounts, heh.
[03:04] <crunchbang> Trying out crunchbang - pretty impressive
[03:04] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: as for the version, let me double check
[03:04] <ebdrake> No files to extract
[03:05] <ebdrake> But if I do...
[03:05] <blahblah1lah> 8.04 Hardy Heron
[03:05] <Lord-Jynx> ok, this is odd.. I can do the recovery mode, THEN get into gdm just fine
[03:05] <ebdrake> "unrar e file1.rar" in the same directory.  Bunch of files get extracted.
[03:05] <Lord-Jynx> but if I boot regular, it halts
[03:05] <crunchbang> My Belkin F5D7050 works out of the box!!! :)
[03:06] <ebdrake> I've got a bout 60 different rars in that one directory.  doing them oune at a time would probably get old.
[03:06] <crunchbang> Anyone installed 8.10 on their PPC?  Get wifi working?
[03:06] <sprinkmeier> blahblah1lah, the 'main admin' account is just art of the admin group, which allows sudo to run and configure things. otherwise it's the same as a 'normal' account. I'd suggest switching users just in case something is messed up in your settings (maybe old pages are cached, maybe there's an add-on you, whatever).  8.04 does not have a guest login by default so you might have to create a junk account to test this.
[03:06] <Chaorain> Can I use Ubuntu to look at xp recent documents?
[03:07] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier:  okay. i'll try it for the hell of it
[03:07] <blahblah1lah> brb
[03:07] <sprinkmeier> ebdrake, for X in *.rar ; do rar e $X ; done
[03:07] <ebdrake> good point.
[03:07] <ebdrake> doh!
[03:07] <zeitsofa> ebdrake: for I in `ls *.rar`; do unrar $i ; done
[03:07] <jere-nii_> Does anyone know a good guide for setting up a CMS that works?
[03:07] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier :)
[03:07] <jere-nii_> I just want to get apache2 and php5
[03:08] <crunchbang> jere-nii_, What is CMS?
[03:08] <zeitsofa> jere-nii_: xoops work fine
[03:08] <jere-nii_> content management system i mean
[03:08] <scroat> hi
[03:08] <scroat> what package contains the kernel source ?
[03:08] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, find . -type f -name \*.rar -print0 | xargs --null --max-lines=1 unrar e
[03:09] <jere-nii_> zeitsofa, do you have an install guide?  I'm on 8.10
[03:09] <lstarnes> scroat: try using apt-get source $(uname -r)
[03:10] <cl428> I finished  to reset computer's root password . MY pleasure!
[03:10] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: hrhr lot of ways can be use :)
[03:10] <lstarnes> scroat: oops, apt-get source linux-image $(uname -r)
[03:10] <scroat> lstarnes: is that all? what about headers and shit
[03:10] <scroat> thanx
[03:11] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, (looking for the XKCD toon....)
[03:11] <jjshoe> jere-nii_ drupal is a good cms.
[03:11] <lstarnes> scroat: that is the source.  running apt-get install linux-headers-($uname -r) should install the headers
[03:11] <jere-nii_> jjshoe, do you have a working install guide?
[03:11] <ebdrake> Nope same error as unrar e *.rar
[03:11] <felixsulla> Anyone know why this doesn't work?   gnome-terminal --working-directory "/usr/lib/python2.5" -t "PyDoc GUI" -x "python pydoc.py -g"
[03:11] <jjshoe> jere-nii_ drupal.org does.
[03:11] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: XKCD ?
[03:11] <lstarnes> scroat: you should be able to use source instead of install to get the sources for that package
[03:11] <user_1> could one of you guys tell me if you can stream sound from this url... http://www.hanmiradio.com/onair.php
[03:12] <jere-nii_> thanks jjshoe
[03:12] <ebdrake> I don't get it.  If I do them one at a time.  No problem.
[03:12] <jtaji> user_1: looking at the source for this page, it uses ActiveX, you are out of luck
[03:13] <Chaorain> Is there a way to rename internal disks so I can keep them straight? I want them to be named at startup with-out mounting
[03:13] <crunchbang> Is there is a PPC forum for Ubuntu?
[03:14] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, http://xkcd.com/196/
[03:14] <kitche> !ppc | crunchbang
[03:14] <s3a> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows doesn't help me restore GRUB!!! I've done this in the past (before Ubuntu 8.10) and I've had no problems!
[03:14] <michalski-bj> hello, im looking at a pdf using evince and I cant seem to be able to use the check boxes, can anyone help?
[03:14]  * Daddy_TK{li} is back.
[03:15] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: lol
[03:15] <s3a> michalski-bj: xournal should allow you to write over pdfs
[03:15] <michalski-bj> s3a: ok, ill give that a try, thanks s3a   :)
[03:16] <s3a> michalski-bj: np
[03:16] <Keal> bbl i am going to the cafe
[03:17] <Keal> btw i found 3 glitches in ubuntu
[03:17] <gnoll> hi all
[03:17] <Keal> one glitch is the skin has odd lines on the screen after i come out of hibernate, i need to see if it is repeatable
[03:17] <Keal> changing to skin to something else and back gets rid of these lines
[03:17] <Keal> and i successfully took a single screenshot
[03:18] <Keal> i should have taken more though :/
[03:18] <blahblah1lah> sprinkmeier: it doesn't even work under another user account. heh, some as-is package :P
[03:18] <scroat> is this the dir with the kernel source code ?   /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11
[03:18] <Keal> it is either a one-time glitch due to last update i did then coming out of hibernate after or it repeats
[03:18] <blahblah1lah> I could try updating ubuntu AGAIN..but... i just did that today. so I don't see how that would fix it. there has been problems with adobe flash player in the past, as documented on more than one page
[03:19] <Keal> the other glitch is the vol up/dn buttons endlessly repeat on a compaq presario r4025us with ubuntu 8.10 amd64
[03:19] <tuxtox> is there a terminal command to mount a .cdi file?
[03:19] <Keal> i haven't tested if the 247 updates fixed this yet though
[03:19] <gnoll> bye, good night
[03:20] <michalski-bj> s3a: thats to modify pdfs...I just need to fill in a form
[03:20] <Keal> the vol up/dn endlessly repeateding when pressed makes gnome not work with input other than mouse wheel and left click
[03:20] <michalski-bj> s3a: and it wont let me use the checkboxes on the form
[03:20] <Keal> also breaks pop down menus
[03:20] <Keal> also breaks most pop-up menus such as system
[03:20] <blahblah1lah> worst distrib of linux EVAR heh
[03:21] <chaca_ucke> hay
[03:21] <Keal> worst dist ever was ubuntu 8.04
[03:21] <chaca_ucke> gfuysgfuydgfuidfhgi
[03:21] <Keal> ubuntu 8.04 was shoddy
[03:21] <michalski-bj> !flood
[03:21] <blahblah1lah> Keal: that's the one i'm using heh. but then it was supposed to have installed the updates to. soooo
[03:21] <michalski-bj> (just needed the link)
[03:22] <Keal> i forget what the third major glitch i found was
[03:22] <Keal> i will remember later
[03:22] <blahblah1lah> Keal: when you do an automatic update, doesn't it update ubuntu entirely?
[03:22] <Keal> bbl going to cafe 15 miles away
[03:22] <ria> hay
[03:22] <Keal> i don't do automatic updates on ubuntu
[03:22] <blahblah1lah> well i mean through the administrative update menu
[03:23] <blahblah1lah> update manager i mean
[03:23] <s3a> blahblah1lah: are you asking if it will upgrade ubuntu versions on its own?
[03:23] <tuxtox> is there a terminal command to convert, or mount, or use a .cdi file?
[03:23] <un2him> anyone tried ext4 on linuxmint?
[03:23] <blahblah1lah> s3a: no
[03:23] <s3a> o
[03:23] <blahblah1lah> s3a: I use the update manager to update ubuntu...
[03:24] <blahblah1lah> so, that doesn't update it past 8.04?
[03:24] <michalski-bj> s3a:  thats to modify pdfs...I just need to fill in a form.....and it wont let me use the checkboxes on the form
[03:24] <Keal> bbl
[03:24] <Keal> oh yeah other glitch
[03:24] <Keal> coming out of hibernate wifi takes forever to start up again
[03:25] <s3a> blahblah1lah: you need to choose graphically to upgrade version otherwise it only updates
[03:25] <blahblah1lah> Keal: seems like it's got a lot of glitches ;)
[03:25] <Keal> anyways i be back later to say if the lines glitch repeated
[03:25] <s3a> michalski-bj: i dont get what ur asking, cant u just use a digital pencil and check boxes?
[03:25] <Keal> cya
[03:25] <chalcedony> how can someone see what version of tcl is installed in their ubuntu box ?
[03:25] <blahblah1lah> i liked slackware better, even sans package manager heh. and this was before i even used ubuntu :P
[03:26] <blahblah1lah> like, 2004-ish or earlier heh
[03:26] <s3a> chalcedony: apt-cache policy tcl
[03:26] <blahblah1lah> s3a: ah I see
[03:26] <blahblah1lah> s3a: what's the simplest way to do that?
[03:26] <s3a> blahblah1lah: do what? upgrade version?
[03:26] <jtaji> chalcedony: you can find out yourself at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:27] <chalcedony> ty jayj
[03:27] <chalcedony> ty s3a
[03:27] <s3a> chalcedony: np
[03:27] <savid> Anyone here use Boxee?  I'm getting some weird font issues:  http://i44.tinypic.com/32zkpk8.jpg
[03:29] <blahblah1lah> s3a: yeah update the version
[03:29] <Ish> what is boxee?
[03:29] <mgolisch> somesort of mediacenter thing
[03:29] <mgolisch> i think
[03:29] <savid> Ish,  http://boxee.tv
[03:29] <chalcedony> apt-cache policy tcl not found
[03:29] <Ish> ohhhhhh
[03:30] <xbskid> Does ubuntu have much support for multitouch interfaces?
[03:30] <michalski-bj> s3a: no it wont let me...
[03:30] <blackest_knight1> michalski-bj: sudo
[03:31] <s3a> blahblah1lah: ubuntu is known for upgrade breakings so i dont suggest you do that but if you really want to, you just open update manager and on the bottom of that screen it should have the option otherwise it is disabled in system-->administration-->software sources
[03:31] <blahblah1lah> ty
[03:31] <s3a> michalski-bj: what are the menu options on the top?
[03:31] <needhelp> Hello, How can I disable SCIM ? It keeps switching to chinese (or other odd language) input characters because I always accidently touches some hotkeys. It gets annoying always having to switch back...
[03:31] <mgolisch> Ish: i think its a fork of xbmc
[03:32] <soreau> Does anyone know how to get projectm working?
[03:32] <michalski-bj> s3a: I have a pencil, eraser, highlighter, text, circle thing, and ruler
[03:32] <michalski-bj> blackest_knight1: its not a sudo problem
[03:32] <s3a> michalski-bj: no i mean like file edit etc if those r there
[03:33] <AakashPatel> how can i make the tap click work on macbook pro 4,1?
[03:33] <s3a> AakashPatel: ubuntu 8.10?
[03:34] <michalski-bj> s3a: edit nothing but paste// view:all options//journal: all//everything else:all
[03:34] <s3a> michalski-bj: go on each and click xinput or something like that
[03:35] <nomin> S  P  R  E  A  D     T  H  E     W  O  R  D
[03:35] <s3a> michalski-bj: like uncheck use xinput or wtv
[03:35] <nomin> R  E  V  O  L  U  T  I  O  N
[03:35] <nomin> S  P  R  E  A  D     T  H  E     W  O  R  D
[03:35] <o0Chris0o> nomin: please don't spam
[03:35] <FloodBot3> nomin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <nomin> R  E  V  O  L  U  T  I  O  N
[03:35] <joanki123> i am upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 to 8.10.... before going from 8.04 to 8.10, should i update/ upgrade?
[03:36] <joanki123> or can i just go direct without doing all the updates and upgrades
[03:37] <mib_yty6p4> hi
[03:37] <joanki123> anyone there?
[03:37] <michalski-bj> !hi
[03:37] <michalski-bj> yes
[03:37] <joanki123> can someone answer my q?  i'm doing it now and don't want to update/upgrade 8.04 before upgrading to 8.10
[03:38] <Ndshacker> :o Pidgin ^-^
[03:38] <Guest4481> anyone know how split up my two different mail accounts into two different inboxes in evolution
[03:38] <soreau> joanki123: I would do all updates upgrades first
[03:38] <Ndshacker> Do I need to update evrything?
[03:38] <Ndshacker> Last time I did it messed up my install
[03:39] <bazhang> joanki123, yes you  need to
[03:39] <joanki123> soureau
[03:39] <joanki123> thanks
[03:39] <joanki123> bbl
[03:39] <zeitsofa> joanki123: an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10 without step over 8.04 its not a good idea
[03:39] <michalski-bj> s3a: still not working, checking the adobe website to see if they have a linux compatible version of the viewer
[03:39] <Ndshacker> :S
[03:40] <{C}> im a total noob but is there an easy way to install nvidia display drivers?
[03:40] <Ndshacker> Nope
[03:40] <Ndshacker> :(
[03:40] <{C}> the auto dloader/installer just freezes on me ;(
[03:40] <Ndshacker> Nvidia and easy are incompatible :D
[03:41] <dotch> Hi, im running intrepid with all the updates installed but i am unable to successfully configure the fingerprint reader on  my thinkpad with thinkfinger tools, ive hit a wall when i try to register myself as a user of the device i get  "Two output paths specified, but you may only specify one:   --add-user " any help highly appreciated.
[03:42] <soreau> dotch: What gives you that output?
[03:44] <dotch> soreau, the terminal command "tf-tool --add-user $dotch" from "ThinkFinger 0.3 (http://thinkfinger.sourceforge.net/)
[03:44] <s3a> michalski-bj: ubuntu 8.10 has a bug that u cant write unless u disable "use xinput" or something like that
[03:44] <dotch> Copyright (C) 2006, 2007 Timo Hoenig <thoenig@suse.de>"
[03:44] <p1r0> bye!
[03:45] <soreau> dotch: What does 'echo $dotch' say?
[03:45] <soreau> It's should probably be either $LOGNAME or dotch
[03:45] <soreau> not $dotch
[03:46] <Ndshacker> !lnux-image
[03:46] <Ndshacker> !linux-image
[03:47] <sysdoc> {C}, use synaptic to knstall the NV drivers
[03:48] <aclonedsheep> hey i have to isntall a 32bit version of windows...how can I do so without having it overwrite gimp?
[03:48] <aclonedsheep> and integrate it into gimp?
[03:48] <michalski-bj> s3a: ok I disabled xinput and now its marking all over the document instead of checking the boxes(you click and fills in checkmark instantly)
[03:49] <michalski-bj> s3a: nonethe less I installed adobe pdf viewer for linux
[03:49] <michalski-bj> s3a: and now it works fine, thanks for the help
[03:49] <MHz128> Anyone know how to download RTMP streaming video? Like the ones found at cbc.ca
[03:49] <joanki123> fyi, there was nothing to update/upgrade - in the upgrading to 8.04, it did all that for me
[03:49] <aclonedsheep> will dosflash or jungleflash work w/ intel p45 chipset?
[03:49] <dotch> soreau, "echo $dotch" gets me a blank space and the normal looking terminal for entering commands ie "dotch@dotch-laptop:~$"  when I use "dotch" without the "$", I get Mode undefined.
[03:50] <dotch> Usage: tf-tool [--acquire | --verify] [--verbose] [bir_file]
[03:50] <dotch>   where --verbose and bir_file are optional.
[03:50] <dotch>   --verbose defaults to unspecified
[03:50] <dotch>     bir_file defaults to ~/.thinkfinger.bir.
[03:50] <FloodBot3> dotch: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <jsjones> How can I quickly switch between No Visual effects and Extra Visual effects?
[03:50] <soreau> jsjones: With fusion-icon
[03:51] <jsjones> soreau: thank you
[03:51] <soreau> dotch: As user, try: tf-tool --add-user $LOGNAME
[03:54] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hey guys
[03:54] <ohletmeinnowjesu> just a quick question
[03:54] <Deodorant> lolwut?
[03:54] <ohletmeinnowjesu> out of curiosity, how often do some of the packages on synaptic get updated to the latest release?
[03:54] <Deodorant> this is the most dead i've seen this channel
[03:55] <dotch> soreau, with "tf-tool --add-user $LOGNAME" I'm getting the same outpus as before ie, Two output paths specified, but you may only specify one...
[03:55] <Deodorant> i suppose most are out partying tonight
[03:55] <ohletmeinnowjesu> like transmission, on synaptic its at 1.34 but on the website theyve already released 1.5
[03:55] <soreau> dotch: It must be a bug in tf-tool then
[03:55] <lstarnes> ohletmeinnowjesu: generally, with every release of ubuntu
[03:55] <lstarnes> ohletmeinnowjesu: packages do regularly recieve security updates and bug fixes
[03:56] <dotch> soreau, looks like ill have to live without the fingerprint reader for a while then...
[03:56] <soreau> ohletmeinnowjesu: Usually the latest 'stable' versions of project packages get packaged for ubuntu some time before release
[03:56] <dotch> thank you for your assistance soreau!
[03:56] <soreau> dotch: Contact the devs and file a bug report
[03:56] <smotchkkiss> good FTP package that support SFTP?
[03:56] <dotch> will do soreau.
[03:56] <zeitsofa> filezilla smotchkkiss
[03:57] <liming> dsad
[03:57] <b1n42y> is NM supposed to manage connections on 8.10 server?
[03:57] <ohletmeinnowjesu> soreau: im on intrepid, and isnt the latest release of ubuntu jaunty; How do I check what version of a given package is bundled with the newer ubuntu release?
[03:57] <job> Can someone show me the way to make my soundcard optical/surroundsound output work?  The stereo output works but not the surround output.  Is there a "how to" on this?  Thanks
[03:57] <b1n42y> !surround
[03:58] <tritium> smotchkkiss: nautilus support sftp.  So does gftp.
[03:58] <job> b1n4y, yes surround
[03:58] <soreau> ohletmeinnowjesu: You can go to packages.ubuntu.com I guess
[03:58] <Flipo> Hello, I am trying to use init.d to launch a python server. So far, I changed the init.d skeleton, if I launch the service manually in init.d it works fine, but at startup it doesn't load, any ideas ?
[03:58] <zeitsofa> tritium: gftp supports sftp? thats new? i think it dosn't.
[03:59] <tritium> ohletmeinnowjesu: jaunty is not a stable release yet.  You should not try to pull in packages from jaunty into intrepid.
[03:59] <smotchkkiss> tritium: thanks
[03:59] <smotchkkiss> tritium: which is easiest to setup?
[03:59] <tritium> zeitsofa: no, it's not new.  I haven't used it in years.
[03:59] <tritium> smotchkkiss: nautilus is installed by default.  Try that first before installing gftp.
[03:59] <b1n42y> job: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[03:59] <ohletmeinnowjesu> tritium: ok
[03:59] <job> b1n42y, thanks will try
[03:59] <soreau> ! jaunty | ohletmeinnowjesu
[03:59] <anom01y> is there any command that will simulate crtl alt f7 user switching ??
[04:00] <smotchkkiss> tritium: oh i should've specified. i'm running ubuntu server. i meant SFTP server (not client)
[04:00] <zeitsofa> Flipo: update-rc.d $yourscript defaults << you need
[04:00] <anom01y> so I type the command and it switches users
[04:00] <smotchkkiss> i'm looking for easiest setup FTP server
[04:00] <tritium> smotchkkiss: ah, all you need for an sftp server is to install openssh-server, or the ssh metapackage.
[04:00] <Flipo> zeitsofa: I did tat also
[04:00] <smotchkkiss> tritium: ssh metapackage?
[04:00] <tritium> smotchkkiss: yes, ssh depends on openssh-server and openssh-client.
[04:00] <ohletmeinnowjesu> soreau: oh sorry, was under the (wrong)impression that jaunty was out
[04:01] <smotchkkiss> tritium: i have open-ssh setup, i'm connected via ssh right now :)
[04:01] <tritium> smotchkkiss: you already have the client installed, so installing openssh-server would be sufficient.
[04:01] <zeitsofa> tritium: i'm sorry sftp != sftpes. it is right simple sftp can use with gftp.
[04:01] <soreau> ohletmeinnowjesu: Not till April '09 hence 9.04 :)
[04:01] <tritium> zeitsofa: ok
[04:02] <zeitsofa> Flipo: did you can see the script into the rc.XY folders?
[04:02] <tritium> ohletmeinnowjesu: jaunty is at the 6th alpha release at this poitn
[04:02] <tritium> point*
[04:02] <Flipo> zeitsofa: yes the scripts are there
[04:02] <smotchkkiss> what port does SFTP use?
[04:02] <tritium> smotchkkiss: 22
[04:03] <smotchkkiss> tritium: this is awesome. my login just works with the openssh-server?
[04:03] <tritium> smotchkkiss: hmm?
[04:04] <smotchkkiss> i'm using the same login for my ssh connection and it's working in my ftp client :)
[04:04] <zeitsofa> Flipo: and you can start it with /etc/init.d/yourscript start ?
[04:04] <smotchkkiss> tritium: that's really cool
[04:04] <smotchkkiss> tritium: no extra setup req'd
[04:04] <Flipo> zeitsofa: yes
[04:04] <tritium> smotchkkiss: correct.
[04:04] <smotchkkiss> tritium: thanks!
[04:04] <tritium> No problem.
[04:04] <zeitsofa> Flipo: confuse :/
[04:04] <Flipo> zeitsofa: it needs the network so I require $networking
[04:05] <smotchkkiss> now is there anyone here that can point me to a good beginner's resource for learning how to use git?
[04:05] <tritium> smotchkkiss: you can install the documentation via "sudo apt-get install git-doc"
[04:06] <zeitsofa> Flipo: and boot process try to start your script after networking?
[04:06] <tritium> !git | smotchkkiss, otherwise read this:
[04:06] <Flipo> zeitsofa: in what log can I see that (I searched the logs but couldn't find traces of my script)
[04:08] <zeitsofa> Flipo: sorry, but i don't know what you can do for
[04:10] <b1n42y> is NM supposed to manage connections on 8.10 server?
[04:12] <tritium> b1n42y: server installs do not install a desktop environment, so I would suspect not.
[04:12] <b1n42y> tritium: ahh ok thanks
[04:12] <jujumon> hi
[04:12] <tritium> b1n42y: if you decided to install a desktop, then you could easily make it do so, however
[04:12] <jujumon> question
[04:12] <jujumon> how do i upgrade to the 686 kernel
[04:13] <jujumon> i tried sudo apt-get install linux-686
[04:13] <b1n42y> tritium: so id need to set that up from within NM ?
[04:13] <jujumon> i am using intrepid
[04:13] <blackest_knight1> depends where you get your packages from but in general a version of packages is frozen at some point to make the release  "stable"
[04:13] <tritium> b1n42y: set which up?
[04:14] <b1n42y> tritium: Network manager
[04:14] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me get a Dell XPS integrated webcam working?
[04:14] <bonez46> if I take a sata drive.. running etch out of a system with Pentium II, 32 bit system and put it in a newer system with a 64 bit amd cpu. would that create EXT4 errors? Is that possible?
[04:14] <jujumon> does anyone know?
[04:15] <tritium> b1n42y: you're asking if you'd need to setup network manager within network manager.   I don't understand.
[04:15] <tritium> jujumon: there is no 686 kernel
[04:15] <jujumon> did there used to be
[04:15] <b1n42y> tritium: if you decided to install a desktop, then you could easily make it do so, however   > so how do i do that
[04:15] <jujumon> i need to figure out a good way to speed this up
[04:16] <tritium> jujumon: many releases ago, but the return on investment wasn't significant enough to warrant continuing to offer it
[04:16] <blackest_knight1> how much ram you got jujumon ?
[04:16] <codyxx> Okay, I am in dire need of some help.
[04:16] <sebsebseb> codyxx: with what?
[04:16] <sebsebseb> !ask
[04:16] <codyxx> Essentially, when logging in, I get this message
[04:16] <jujumon> i think 1 gb
[04:16] <jujumon> at least 1 gb
[04:16] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me get a webcam working on a Dell XPS?
[04:17] <sebsebseb> !webcam
[04:17] <tritium> b1n42y: if you want gnome, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.  kubuntu-desktop for KDE, and xubuntu-desktop for xfce.
[04:17] <blackest_knight1> that should be plenty whats slow ?
[04:17] <bonez46> anyone? moving a sata drive, with ubuntu installed from one system to another?
[04:17] <eighthr> is there a download for ghamachi that works....???....
[04:17] <jujumon> xubuntu is a bit faster for me
[04:17] <morph3us> hi.. someone here have a broadcom wireless card? i have intrepid and can't get the f*cking card work well..
[04:17] <Tamnakz> ubottu thank you!
[04:17] <jujumon> but firefox is still really slow and freezes a lot
[04:17] <codyxx> "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If You have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskspace. Try loggging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem."
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Tamnakz: yeah, but I triggered it
[04:17] <blackest_knight1> should be ok i killed a server the other day shifted the drives fine apart from grub
[04:17] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[04:17] <jujumon> and other apps too
[04:17] <RussM_> bonez46, Should work OK, I've moved drives before.
[04:17] <codyxx> Okay, so I tried logging in with failsafe gnome, and I cannot.
[04:18] <mezquitale> anyone here ever synchronized a windows mobile 5 device with their ubuntu distro???
[04:18] <blackest_knight1> codyxx try boot fail safe and apt-get clean then try again
[04:18] <RussM_> bonez46, Though you mentioned ext4, I have no idea about that. Still using ext3, not planning on moving up for a bit.
[04:18] <codyxx> okay
[04:19] <gui> which distro is ubuntu based on?
[04:19] <codyxx> Would I just boot fail safe with grub
[04:19] <RussM_> gui, debian
[04:19] <sebsebseb> !Debian | gui
[04:19] <blackest_knight1> probably is hd space so apt-get clean just clears the package cache
[04:19] <b1n42y> tritium: given my question was is NM supposed to control network connections i thought it was implied that i had already installed ubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <lstarnes> gui: specifically, debian's unstable branch
[04:19] <codyxx> I have a 250gb hard drive.
[04:20] <gui> so which distro is debian based on or is it an original one?
[04:20] <mejobloggs> when i installed ubuntu server I didn't have it plugged into network. When i got to the 'configure network' I said i'd configure it later. So... now that it's installed, how do I configure the network?
[04:20] <codyxx> And I have enough disk space. I had 190gb of disk space free.
[04:20] <lstarnes> gui: debian is more or less original
[04:20] <mezquitale> anyone here ever synchronized a windows mobile 5 device with their ubuntu distro?? i want to synchronize my phone with my distro so i wont have to boot up to redmond
[04:20] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian is one of the first Linux distros
[04:20] <gui> so which is better, ubuntu or debian?
[04:20] <sebsebseb> gui: Ubuntu for new users
[04:20] <blackest_knight1> hmm ok i'm out of ideas
[04:20] <lstarnes> gui: it largely depends on personal preference
[04:20] <tritium> b1n42y: it was not, as you asked about server installs, for which desktop environments are not default
[04:21] <mezquitale> gui, it all depends, really, if youre a newbie i HIGHLY recommend ubuntu
[04:21] <bonez46> RussM_: that's just it. I haven't moved up.. the drive in question is running 8.10 desktop, and I don't know anything about ext4 either..
[04:21] <gui> so what does debian has that is not found in debian?
[04:21] <gui> in ubuntu*
[04:21] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[04:22] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: ubuntu is better for a desktop-system, because of the shorter release-times and the newer software. its based on debian unstable. Debian is better for servers, because its using very stable software. ubuntu is easier to handle, because of some nice guis (all my opinion)
[04:22] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian is  free and open source software by default, and makes it harder to get closed source software such as the Flash plugin, than Ubuntu does
[04:22] <b1n42y> tritium: so now you know, my bad ...  , how do i solve this
[04:22] <tritium> b1n42y: so, if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, you have the choice of configuring network-manager, or configuring your interfaces manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:22] <gui> i see
[04:22] <gui> thanks
[04:22] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, thanks, all those docs are old, using intrepid, i just wanted to know if there was anyone here who has synchronized their wm5 device with their distro
[04:22] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian  also has it's own version of FIrefox under it's own name, with a differnet logo, because of some stupiditity
[04:22] <codyxx> blackest_knight1: Would you like to see the ~/.xession-errors file I get after the prompt?
[04:23] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, in installing all the utils that i need however it's been quite a few minutes installing triggers for python-support
[04:23] <b1n42y> tritium: well my network works so configs are fine, just would like to have it setup in NM, ive tried adding wired connection, but doesnt seem to work
[04:24] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian is also apparantly better for servers, than Ubuntu
[04:24] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: it works fine for me. i used this 2 month ago
[04:24] <codyxx> "/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Line: 2 /etc/profile: 26 id: not found Line 3: "etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, exec: 20 x-terminal-emulator: not found
[04:24] <gui> so does apt-get install, installs any opensource software i can think of?
[04:24] <sebsebseb> gui: not everything
[04:24] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no
[04:24] <gui> what's the limit?
[04:25] <codyxx> gui: anything in the repositories
[04:25] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: just precompiled packages, but that a very much
[04:25] <sebsebseb> gui: a few thousand packages are available, but  a lot is also not availalbe
[04:25] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: the standard-software you will find in the different repos
[04:25] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, are you using intrepid?
[04:25] <gui> so can i install any software found on any other distro's repos than ubuntu?
[04:25] <tritium> b1n42y: I'm not a big fan of NM, myself, actually.
[04:25] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no
[04:25] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: yes i did
[04:26] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: just the ubuntu repos for the correct-version
[04:26] <b1n42y> tritium: same i use wicd on my laptop
[04:26] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, you think it'll work with WM6?
[04:26] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: but trust me there are many many many packages inside the ubuntu-repos
[04:26] <tritium> b1n42y: cool.  So, I may not be the best person to advise you on configuring NM, if that's your intent.
[04:26] <sebsebseb> gui: ,but for example for a later version of Wine found in the Ubuntu repo,  you can add the www.winehq.org  ubuntu repo
[04:27] <b1n42y> tritium: thanks
[04:27] <gui> but there are alot of softwares that i need to use that aren't just in ubuntu's repos
[04:27] <sebsebseb> gui: somesites offer  repos that can be added for Ubuntu, but you should be careful that it's from a good source, because they could have maybe done something malicious to the package
[04:27] <sebsebseb> gui: such as?
[04:27] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: which for example?
[04:27] <gui> like kismet, maltego
[04:28] <sebsebseb> gui: whatever those are
[04:28] <gui> p0f
[04:28] <bonez46> how does one safely move a drive running ubuntu from 32 bit system to a 64 bit system? should that just work, or what might have to be done to grub to make it work?
[04:28] <tritium> gui: kismet is in the repos
[04:28] <tritium> !info kismet
[04:28] <tritium> gui: ^^
[04:28] <mercutio22> I can't have accents in kile latex editor
[04:29] <gui> ubottu: seems to be very ready
[04:29] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: it work yes. can u read german? i have only a german howto for that :/
[04:29] <Milky_Way> what is the default fixed width font for apperances? (IE: font for terminal)
[04:29] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: error gives kile or latex?
[04:29] <gui> does virtual box found in the repo?
[04:29] <Milky_Way> gui: yes
[04:29] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: yes but just the ose.edition
[04:30] <gui> what's ose.edition
[04:30] <sebsebseb> gui: yes, but only the OSE version, and so if you want USB suppourt you need to get the binary from their site  http://www.virtualbox.org
[04:30] <tritium> gui: open-source edition
[04:30] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: open-source without usb-support
[04:30] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> I just can't make áéí compound characters  in kile, I am not even compiling the latex file yet
[04:30] <gui> that's fine
[04:30] <gui> so i was trying to manage my video ipods with ubuntu but couldn't find a software like itunes how can i do that?
[04:30] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: works fine with my kile
[04:30] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> Its just a kile problem
[04:31] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: press ` then a
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gui: banshee can do stuff with your ipod
[04:31] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: no its not a kile problem, works fine here
[04:31] <gui> videos or only music?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gui: banshee is a very nice music and video player.  the 8.10  version is good  the  8.04 version sucks
[04:31] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> I know, it used to work here. All of a sudden it does not anylonger
[04:31] <gui> but my ipod is apple does it handle it too?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gui: yes it's got suppourt for ipods
[04:32] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: hm
[04:32] <sebsebseb> gui: syncing or whatever
[04:32] <tritium> gui: all iPods are Apple products
[04:32] <gui> so some ipods are creative and sony and others
[04:32] <sebsebseb> tritium: lier  you got one  made by Microsoft :D
[04:32] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, i dont read german, thank you very much for the info though, i know it can be done, ive had problems with my PPC-6700 device but now Im half way there, i can see the device and files in it, just finished installing the libraries,hopefully it'll work
[04:32] <DIFH-iceroot> tritium: not the asia/taiwan "ipods" :)
[04:32] <Candrian> 0
[04:32] <gui> US ones i guess
[04:33] <b1n42y> hwo do i find mac address of my network card?
[04:33] <tritium> DIFH-iceroot: ok, all *legal* ones.
[04:33] <DIFH-iceroot> b1n42y: ifconfig
[04:33] <DIFH-iceroot> tritium: ok :)
[04:33] <gui> so are there any applications that work like msn with voip and webcam support?
[04:33] <Milky_Way> DIFH-iceroot: are you saying other companies make ipods? as in, the exact name? sure there are rip offs like zune and whatever..
[04:33] <Milky_Way> gui: skype
[04:33] <tritium> gui: ekiga
[04:33] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> any clues what could have triggered this?
[04:33] <DIFH-iceroot> Milky_Way: not companies, but pirates
[04:34] <Milky_Way> DIFH-iceroot: oh so black market... meh
[04:34] <sebsebseb> gui: yeah and  I know how you can phone loads of countires for free :d  and so SKype heh
[04:34] <gui> what about doing a fake cam like "fakecams" or "splitcam"?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> gui: Pidgin is going to have web cam suppourt soon I think,  that's multi protocall network
[04:34] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: i don't know anything about your ppc-6700. have this device a wlan card you can try http://www.finchsync.com
[04:34] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: i dont know, because i am german, i am not using stuff like à so i dnt knw how to fix it, just works with my default kile
[04:34] <sebsebseb> gui: AMSN and Kmess do web cam
[04:34] <DIFH-iceroot> Milky_Way: yes
[04:34] <tritium> sebsebseb: really?
[04:34] <gui> sebsebseb: how can you phone for free?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> tritium: yep  I think Pidgin will have it soon
[04:34] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> alright... thanks
[04:34] <gui> i think amsn doesn't do cam support
[04:34] <tritium> sebsebseb: interesting.  I thought the devs didn't have any plans for video support.
[04:35] <tritium> gui: apparently it does, actually
[04:35] <gui> that's very great then
[04:35] <sebsebseb> gui: http://www.voipcheap.com and then set it up with a  Linux program or whatever their site says.  there program is Windows only
[04:35] <gui> so is there a way to capture videos from webcams?
[04:35] <tritium> gui: look at cheese.
[04:35] <baz12> do you think it helps the uptake of linux for new users with frequent (e.g. 6 months or less) and often broken releases becuase new users think thay have to keep up with it and can get a bad experience?
[04:35] <Milky_Way> what is the default fixed width font for apperances? (IE: font for terminal)
[04:36] <gui> and i couldn't find snort in the repos?
[04:36] <tritium> gui: http://projects.gnome.org/cheese/
[04:36] <bazhang> baz12, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:36] <sebsebseb> gui: so  I just laugh at SKype these days,  but someone I told about that one,  still wanted Skype in Ubuntu
[04:36] <tritium> !info snort
[04:36] <tritium> gui ^^
[04:36] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, thanks, i think ill try the other links you gave me first, im working on it right now
[04:36] <SomePriest> I installed totem-xine.  When I play DVDs they are very slow, like the PC can't push out a fast enough frame-rate, and the video quality is pretty bad (looks grainy).  Is there a better solution to playing DVDs then totem-xine?
[04:36] <baz12> bazhang: ok
[04:36] <tritium> gui: I would guess that you've not enabled the universe or multiverse repositories.  You need those to access several thousand more packages.
[04:36] <|Kamen|> I'm looking to pick up a usb bluetooth adapter, and all the ones I see say they support xp/vista. what are my chances of ubuntu knowing what to do with the thing when I plug it in?
[04:37] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: vlc + libdvdcss2
[04:37] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, It produces a sharp image?  And its not choppy?
[04:37] <gui> ok what about enlightment i couldn't find that too?
[04:37] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: best video player in the world :)
[04:37] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: http://www.j-zero.de/blog/ubuntu-vs-windows-mobile-6-79.html this is the german howto that worked for me. i think translator can help you, if the other dosn't work for you.
[04:37] <tritium> gui: that's also available
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: yes you can have enlightment, but  it needs some configuring to be any good in Ubuntu
[04:38] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: i dont have problems with bad image quality
[04:38] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, You help develop it do you?  ;)
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: you can get Elive though :d
[04:38] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: no, just a vlc-fan
[04:38] <Nalf> |Kamen|, it should work with little to know setup. ^_^
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: Elive already configured live CD for it
[04:38] <tritium> gui: please enable the universe and multiverse repos, and update your package listings
[04:38] <gui> is that better than enlightnment?
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: Elive uses enlightment, but it's already been set it up properly for it,  I still need to try it
[04:39] <gui> is there any newer ubuntus than 9.0.4 alpha?
[04:39] <gui> i got the jaunty one
[04:39] <sebsebseb> gui: no
[04:39] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no
[04:39] <gui> is that the newest?
[04:39] <b1n42y> how do i restart my network
[04:39] <sebsebseb> jaunty is in development
[04:39] <sebsebseb> it has bugs
[04:39] <exodus_ms> !distro
[04:39] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no, 8.10 is the newest stable one
[04:39] <sebsebseb> gui: you shoudn't really have jaunty since your new to Ubuntu
[04:40] <gui> but i thought i should get the latest
[04:40] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no, the newest is nt always the best
[04:40] <DIFH-iceroot> not
[04:40] <sebsebseb> gui: 8.10 is the latest stable.   9.04  will be out properly on like April 23rd
[04:40] <SomePriest> When I first installed ubuntu, a warning told me fglrx drivers were available, but were proprietary.  I chose to install them.  The intaller hung for ages, didn't even download them.  So I cancelled it.  Now that message saying those drivers are available is missing.  How do I reopen that dialog?
[04:40] <exodus_ms> lts is the best
[04:40] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: if you like a stable system with long support, use ubuntu 8.04 hardy
[04:40] <sebsebseb> gui: which one do you have installed?  8.10 or 9.04?
[04:41] <SomePriest> (it was a widget that appeared at the top right of my screen, but is no longer there)
[04:41] <gui> it's not installed really i just downloaded it and tried it on virtual box
[04:41] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, thanks!  I'll try that later on, right now i have wm5 but ill  upgrade to wm6 once i figure out how to synchronize my phone with my ubuntu distro
[04:41] <sebsebseb> gui: your on XP?
[04:41] <gui> ya
[04:41] <|Kamen|> Nalf: the one I am thinking of is here: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12696   (its for a laptop)
[04:41] <gui> but 9.0.4 takes a huge amount of time to install
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gui: 9.04 is development version.   and the release you have is for people that want to test it early
[04:42] <gui> i installed mandriva with tones of packages and it went much faster
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gui: and developers of course
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> gui, sidux takes 5 minutes
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> to compare
[04:42] <sebsebseb> nomasteryoda: sidux :d  still got to try that
[04:42] <gui> what about kubuntu?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gui: Ubuntu takes about  15 minutes or so to install
[04:43] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: its ubuntu with kde
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> gui, its good
[04:43] <tritium> gui: ubuntu installs are quite quick, actually
[04:43] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, vlc is a bit better, not brilliant either though.  Maybe the issue is that I'm watching a friends webcam in skype.  Perhaps its too much processor lag, I guess.  (never had this problem under windows  :(
[04:43] <gui> ya but not the one i got
[04:43] <sebsebseb> gui: yeah, but in 8.10  can only really have KDE4,  but KDE3 is nice to :)   and not sure about having both KDE3 and 4 in KDE
[04:43] <Nalf> |Kamen|, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup#Bluetooth%20support%20for%20Ubuntu%207.04%20and%20earlier just look over the related pages and stuff.
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> with 9.04... not 8.10
[04:43] <sebsebseb> gui: so I would virtual machine hardy 8.04  for  KDE3
[04:43] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: i like kde more then gnome, but kubuntu is not a very good kde-implementation just as suse (as kde-implementation
[04:43] <Nalf> |Kamen|, I can't give you a 100%, unfortunately.
[04:43] <cr4z3d> so i've accidently removed my vmlinuz/kernel.img files from /boot. is there a way i can restore these without reinstalling?
[04:44] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: KDE4  I don't like that much,  KDE3 was nice, but I stuck to Gnome
[04:44] <needhelp> Hello, How can I disable SCIM ? It keeps switching to chinese (or other odd language) input characters because I always accidently touches some hotkeys. It gets annoying always having to switch back...
[04:44] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: installed correct video-driver? which process is using high-cpu usage? (top)
[04:44] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: just some of the apps got quite a bit better in KDE4
[04:44] <tritium> cr4z3d: reinstall the kernel-image package that it/they belonged to
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> cr4z3d, you can install the kernel again
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> like tritium said
[04:44] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Skype is using 43%, its the highest by a long shot.
[04:44] <sebsebseb> gui: ok you got a lot to learn, and yes  trying stuff out in XP in a virtual machine is a good way to try, but then you should put stuff on for real on your hard disk later on
[04:44] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: i was using kde 4.0 and then i turned back to 3.5.9, never has seen the new (working) version of kde 4(.2)
[04:45] <sebsebseb> gui: using partitining not wubi
[04:45] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: hm 43% is hard i think
[04:45] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: 4.2 and 4.1 seem the same to me, but I never did do a proper look around
[04:45] <gui> i have mandriva on my hdd now
[04:45] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Driver is fglrx (I'm using a Radeon 8500xt)
[04:45] <gui> and use backtrack on VM
[04:45] <Nalf> Is there a timestamp option somehwere in xchat? o.o
[04:45] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: with the new suse i will have a look at kde 4.x again
[04:45] <skierKyle> Hi, i am trying to remove the ubuntu icon to the left of the menu bar, does anybody know how?
[04:45] <gui> but iam more into windows but i love linux
[04:45] <cr4z3d> tritium: what's the best way to do this? it was on my eeepc using "easy peasey" formerly ubuntu eee. i have a live usb i can boot into but what kind of steps would be required to fix this
[04:46] <sebsebseb> gui: Mandriva might be a nice distro, but it is a total noobs distro for people from Windows, by what I have heard etc.
[04:46] <gui> i don't recommend anybody to use it
[04:46] <gui> it's totally awful
[04:46] <exodus_ms> skierKyle, its not supposed to be easy
[04:46] <gui> sorry mandriva fans
[04:46] <sebsebseb> gui: what Mandriva is?
[04:46] <DIFH-iceroot> skierKyle: system - settings- apperiance, there yu can disable the logo
[04:46] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Wait, that vid card is wrong.  Hrm, 850 something-or-other, I forget, getting old  :)
[04:46] <gui> all the linux commands are totally different and it's not user friendly as claimed
[04:46] <sebsebseb> gui:  why do you think Mandriva is awful,  and this is going a bit off topic, but whatever
[04:47] <sebsebseb> ok you just answered
[04:47] <gui> plus not much support for it
[04:47] <tritium> cr4z3d: well, find out the package name (dpkg -l | grep linux-image).  Once you know which package(s) you need to reinstall, sudo apt-get install <packagename(s)>
[04:47] <gui> i couldn't update for along time
[04:47] <sebsebseb> gui: yep Ubuntu is a great distro to start with and to stay with for many people
[04:47] <gui> anybody using ubuntu 7.10?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> gui: if you did not like Mandriva, why did you put that one on for real?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> gui: 7.10 was nice, but no longer suppourted
[04:48] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Radeon x850 XT  :)    Anyway, its ATI.  And I'm using the fglrx driver.
[04:48] <tohar> ada
[04:48] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: sorry dont know anything about ati and its driver, so i dont know if it is the best one
[04:48] <gui> i had a dvd off mandriva not an iso so i couldn't try it on my VM but it's my second Unix based try
[04:48] <cactusfrog> hi
[04:49] <gui> my first shot was solaris which has no buttons for shutdown or restart lol
[04:49] <swoody> is there a way to report spammers on the forums?
[04:49] <DIFH-iceroot> cactusfrog: hi
[04:49] <cactusfrog> i am having a problem i can't open tremulous
[04:49] <sebsebseb> gui: there's a good quick distribution chooser quiz, but  Ubuntu should be the one you start using properly :d
[04:49] <cr4z3d> tritium: thank you. i guess i need to get a ubuntu livecd then since apt-get is not on arch
[04:49] <cactusfrog> i just installed it
[04:49] <gui> i did it already sebsebseb
[04:49] <cactusfrog> it wont run what is that comand that allows you to run tremulous in termianl
[04:49] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Do you know how to reopen the widget that installs third-party video card drivers?  I used it to install fglrx, actually killed it before it finished, but it seems to have installed the driver anyway.
[04:49] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: ubuntu is the second-easiest distri so its a good choice
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gui: you can have Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu and Englightment and what not, all in the same install
[04:50] <gui> so which is the first?
[04:50] <skierKyle> DIFH-iceroot: system - preferences - appearance? and if so, where after that?
[04:50] <cactusfrog> ah!
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gui: which is the first what?
[04:50] <cactusfrog> what is the comand to run something so you can see it prosses then kill it
[04:50] <gui> you said that ubuntu is the second easiest distro so what's the first?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gui: I never said second easiest distro
[04:50] <DIFH-iceroot> skierKyle: i dont have an english version, i think its called GUI, just look there
[04:51] <sebsebseb> gui: Ubuntu is  one of the most easiest distros
[04:51] <cactusfrog> ok
[04:51] <gui> sorry that was DIFH-iceroot
[04:51] <cactusfrog> so i really don't know the comand to run proceses
[04:51] <cactusfrog> so
[04:51] <cactusfrog> that i can easly quit them
[04:51] <tritium> gui: ubuntu
[04:51] <gui> so DIFH-iceroot what's the first easiest one?
[04:51] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: somewhere in the settings-tab i think
[04:51] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: opensuse
[04:51] <sebsebseb> opensuse hummmm
[04:51] <cactusfrog> i cant open tremulous everytime i open it it crahses
[04:51] <sebsebseb> ,but that's linked to Novell
[04:51] <sebsebseb> who made a  patents deal with Microsoft
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: does not matter
[04:52] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Settings tab?  Tab in what program?
[04:52] <cactusfrog> i just need one comand
[04:52] <tritium> And I would disagree with that claim, anyway.
[04:52] <cactusfrog> how do i run something through termninal
[04:52] <gui> anybody agrees that opensuse is the easiest?
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: menu on the top
[04:52] <sebsebseb> so opensuse is  like the community verison of Microsoft Linux :d
[04:52] <cactusfrog> please
[04:52] <gui> i think me too
[04:52] <cactusfrog> ok
[04:52] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, You mean "system"?  I have no settings menu.
[04:52] <bonez46> microsoft linux?
[04:52] <cactusfrog> all quit using ubuntu
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: i am using a system which i like and not which is not coming from microsoft
[04:52] <sebsebseb> bonez46: yes see above at my joke
[04:52] <bonez46> isn't that like saying one is a Mormon Catholic?
[04:52]  * gui laughing at microsoft linux
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: ah of course, system - settings
[04:52] <bonez46> ah, ok
[04:53] <SomePriest> :)
[04:53] <sebsebseb> gui: Microsoft did actsaully do a Unix ages ago I think
[04:53] <cactusfrog> who relieced the first linux ?
[04:53] <cactusfrog> please guys help
[04:53] <cactusfrog> i cant run tremulous
[04:53] <gui> well microsoft gained it's experience from Unix i believe
[04:53] <cactusfrog> and i dont know how to find its id number so i can kill it
[04:53] <tritium> cactusfrog: Software Landing Systems was among the first
[04:53] <bonez46> inuitive.. sounds just Unreoala....!
[04:54] <gui> but aren't there any distro that can install downloaded softwares just like windows with a double clicks?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> cactusfrog: ok  put xkill in the terminal and click on the program that is causing problems
[04:54] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, they did a half-hearted VMS clone, called it NT :-)
[04:54] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[04:54] <cactusfrog> ok
[04:54] <DIFH-iceroot> cactusfrog: the first linux released? of course linus torvalds
[04:54] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: yes
[04:54] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: oh right
[04:54] <cactusfrog> no
[04:54] <gui> i think mac supprts easy install as windows
[04:54] <cactusfrog> thats not what i want
[04:54] <sebsebseb> gui: Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD
[04:55] <cactusfrog> the tremulous opens then quits but i never see a window
[04:55] <SomePriest> cactusfrog, ps aux | grep -i "PROGRAM_NAME"   ....
[04:55] <sprinkmeier> gui, there' synaptic (and other package managers) that make installing things just as easy (different, but just as easy)
[04:55] <sebsebseb> basically every popular decant OS is  Unix in some shape or the other, and then we got Windows hum
[04:55] <cactusfrog> it happed to me with pidgen
[04:55] <SomePriest> sebastien_, That's not true.  Only a small part of the FBSD kernel was used.
[04:56] <gui> spinkmeier: so this synaptic manages which extensions?
[04:56] <cactusfrog> OMFG! this is driving me crazy i am sorry that i am rude or what ever but i just need one simple code thats it how do i find a programs id number!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:56] <sebsebseb> SomePriest: well it's still known as Unix under the hood
[04:56] <smotchkkiss> when i push code to github and pull down a clone, how do i update the clone to latest revision on github?
[04:56] <DIFH-iceroot> cactusfrog: ps aux | grep programname
[04:56] <SomePriest> sebastien_, heh, Linux isn't even "Unix" under the hood  :)
[04:56] <sebsebseb> !volunter |  cactusfrog
[04:56] <cactusfrog> thanks
[04:56] <cactusfrog> thats all i needed
[04:56] <SomePriest> cactusfrog, I sent you the same command about 4 mins ago  :)
[04:56] <sebsebseb> cactusfrog: don't use gods name in vein or you might go to hell :D
[04:57] <cactusfrog> ya well
[04:57] <cactusfrog> using linux is hell
[04:57] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, or be reborn as a lower life-form (MCSE?)
[04:57] <cactusfrog> bye
[04:57] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: heh
[04:57] <gui> i've seen somebody before showing off his linux capabilities and on his pc there was a console as a background displaying commands equivalent to everything he did from the gui, anybody know how he does this?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> gui: no, but sounds interesting
[04:58] <gui> yes i was so fasinated since he could learn alot from that process
[04:58] <sixofour> wow
[04:58] <SomePriest> gui, history | tail -f    ?
[04:58] <sixofour> how big does an image have to be for gwenview to take up 98% of my cpu?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: sadly it seems  I might be able to get a more well paid job if I was a MCSE then if I had LPI
[04:59] <sprinkmeier> gui, some programs (like devede) send info like that to stdout, so if you start them from a terminal you'd get the same effect. If there's a way to do this in general I don't know what it is, but it sounds cool!
[04:59] <ander1dw> that's what i was thinking
[04:59] <sebsebseb> sixofour: I think that's probably a shitty buggy gnome app to be honest :d
[04:59] <ander1dw> simple stdout
[04:59] <sebsebseb> sixofour: well eye of gnome is
[04:59] <gui> but it wasn't a console actually it was a background
[04:59] <ander1dw> could've just been fullscreened without toolbars
[04:59] <gui> like commands going up the screen in the background
[04:59] <sixofour> gwenview is bnome?..i'm on kde
[05:00] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, get an RHCE. might not be technically superior than LPI but better commercial recognition, therefore more $$$
[05:00] <sixofour> gnome*
[05:00] <sebsebseb> sixofour: not sure if it's gnome
[05:00] <zonyl> sebsebseb: If you get passed over for having an LPI instead of MCSE, you dont want the job.
[05:00] <sixofour> lol the images are 5266x7000
[05:00] <sixofour> and there is 200 of them
[05:00] <sixofour> no shit my stuff is slow
[05:00] <sebsebseb> I am from UK, this countrey is way to locked into Microsoft, so  I wonder where I could go here, with a LPI.
[05:00] <zeitsofa> gui: you can use conky to do that.
[05:00] <pidnull> [- OS Uptime: 4h 2m 15s -]
[05:01] <gui> is that supported under ubuntu?
[05:01] <zeitsofa> gui yes it is
[05:01] <ander1dw> you can actually create a "transparent" profile that looks as though it's just running out of thin air on top of your background
[05:01] <ander1dw> using the gnome terminal, that is
[05:01] <zonyl> seb: I run an MS shop, but I hire people based on their resume and resort to certs only as a tie breaker.
[05:02] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: it seems LPI can be done at home, and then go some where for exams, but what about RHCE.  also I got a feeling RHCE might be USA only
[05:02] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: you hav LPI(C)-1? or do you mean something other?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: no I mean I am considering doing LP1  Level 1
[05:02] <DIFH-iceroot> linux professional i..... certificate level 1
[05:02] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, RHCE is world-wide as far as I know. I believe it's like MCSE (i.e. study-test for $$$), but you should be able to book in for only the test
[05:03] <gui> tail -f /var/log/X11/*  will that do the same?
[05:03] <sprinkmeier> gui, probably not, all it will tell you is what X thinks about the requests it's getting from the various programs running, not what those programs are or their parameters.
[05:04] <sebsebseb> zonyl: so experience and stuff in the CV?   not so much about qualifiations?
[05:04] <jeeves> what is the most agressive scan that you can do of an IP? I need to test our work connection
[05:04] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: I don't have  a good qualification in computing, and so LPI
[05:05] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, different orgs use CV's in different ways. Some do a buzzword-compliance check as first filter (in which case RHCE/MCSE is essential), some look for other stuff first. YMMV
[05:05] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:05] <sebsebseb> YMMV????
[05:05] <silv3r_m00n> is it possible to get suse like menu here in ubuntu ?
[05:05] <jeeves> what is the most agressive scan that you can do of an IP? I need to test our work connection
[05:05] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, nmap? saint? pingflood?
[05:05] <crabgrass> how do i uninstall software i built?
[05:05] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, I've tried nmap, and it's not reporting anything open
[05:06] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: hm ok, i was think about doing lpi-1 because i have to get a new job and so i am searching for a good linux-quailification
[05:06] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, then maybe... nothing is open?
[05:06] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: Linux in UK,  I guess it's servers, and that's about it really
[05:06] <zonyl> seb: Never. I look at resumes to bring people in and interview.  Certs only break ties and very rarely do I resort to that.   MCP MCTS is so easily gotten, it only shows someone can $$ for the transcender and is usually meaningless.   I would rather have someone have experience with iptables than someone who knows how to point click MS ADS configuration.
[05:06] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, would it just be "nmap -vPN <target>"?
[05:06] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: ok, i have to look in germany :)
[05:06] <SomePriest> Is the RHCE very hard?  I think there were 4 (?) tests?  I finished the demo of the first and did very well.  The second I did ok on, I think it was networking?  But I've read O'Reilly's DNS/BIND since then.
[05:07] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: oh your German
[05:07] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, nmap has _many_ options, consider getting nmap-fe (GUI front-end for nmapo). BEWARE, nmap scans (esp. aggressive ones) can be interpreted as attacks and can GET PEOPLE FIRED! get WRITTEN PERMISSION first!
[05:07] <zonyl> seb: implementation can be googled, understanding the underlying tech cannot.
[05:07] <mythomaniac> anyone here familiar with awesome window manager, i need some guidance in setting up a theme and icons - i'm using 3.x btw
[05:08] <sebsebseb> zonyl: MS shop, so you don't even do Linux stuff?  it's all about Windows?
[05:08] <brightjoker> hey all!
[05:08] <sebsebseb> brightjoker: hello
[05:08] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, I'm the lead I.T. tech, and the owner is sitting here watching the hockey game with me!  LOL
[05:09] <zonyl> seb: Sadly yes.  MS gives us so much $$$ in licensing and support we would be hard pressed to challenge that.
[05:09] <sebsebseb> zonyl: who are your customers?
[05:09] <brightjoker> anyone know the best way to improve signal strength between a use wireless adapter and the router?  they are in the same room yet the usb only shows a 20% signal
[05:09] <askvictor> is there a gui for lvm in intrepid?
[05:09] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, still... it it's an external scan the ISP's cen get their nickers in a knot (esp. if you mess up the IP range and scan someone else :-) I'd recommend a simple "nmap TARGET_IP" first, then "man nmap" or get nmap-fe
[05:10] <zonyl> We are a web bases SAS company.  Kinda B2B oriented.
[05:10] <tritium> sebsebseb, zonyl: probably better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:10] <sebsebseb> tritium: heh I knew that would be coming
[05:10] <skierKyle> silve3r_moon: "sudo apt-get install gnome-main-menu" pretty sure thats similar to the suse one
[05:10] <zonyl> seb: Well I was giving credence to the LPI ;)
[05:10] <tritium> sebsebseb: ;)
[05:11] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, the ISP is allready on our S-list, so we don't really care
[05:11] <sebsebseb> zonyl: yeah I would rather not work with MS :)  and  I can't be bothered to join offtopic so I guess we are done
[05:12] <gui> if i used ubuntu 8.10 and wanted to upgrade to 9.0.4 later will that mess up my configuration and save stuff?
[05:12] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, in that case, "nmap -T insane -p - TARGET_ADDRESS" :-)
[05:12] <sebsebseb> zonyl: unless you wanted to pm, but  don't see much point in that either
[05:12] <brightjoker> gui: no.
[05:12] <sebsebseb> gui: your new to Linux
[05:12] <sebsebseb> gui: in a vm  uhmmmmm I guess it's ok
[05:12] <sebsebseb> gui: I mean you would keep data on your XP host I expect
[05:13] <zonyl> bright:  Can you "tweak" the power level of the router?
[05:13] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, it's coming back recomending I try -PN
[05:13] <gui> no not in a vm i mean in my hd for real
[05:13] <liberteriandude> hello...ubujntu fans
[05:13] <sebsebseb> gui: don't upgrade to 9.04
[05:13] <SomePriest> Installed Ubuntu for the first time today (I have years experience with Fedora, Debian, etc).  The installer asked for my language, timezone, allowed me to edit partitions, but on stop 5 when I hit next it booted from the DVD, and didn't install or ever write the partitions I chose in the previous step.
[05:13] <brightjoker> its a linksys, i dont believe so, i can mess with the channels and frequency but pretty sure thats all zonyl
[05:13] <sebsebseb> gui: untill final release
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> i'm in kubuntu but i want to use ubuntu's update manager,
[05:14] <sebsebseb> gui: your new you shoudn't  do 9.04 untill final as a result
[05:14] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, from man: "-PN: Treat all hosts as online -- skip host discovery" looks like ICMP-PING is being blocked.
[05:14] <tritium> gui: jaunty is not currently supported.  Please don't upgrade now while it's still alpha.
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> so i removed adept and kpackagekit.
[05:14] <gui> so which is the latest stable release again?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> 8.10
[05:14] <tritium> gui: 8.10
[05:14] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, lol, looks like it worked then
[05:14] <Tamnakz> Anyone used quickccccam  or quickcam2 to make a webcam work? re: dell xps integrated webca
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> but synaptic update manager does not automatically check for updates nor show a tray icon when there is updates
[05:14] <mythomaniac> none one here uses awesome window manager?
[05:14] <mythomaniac> ;(
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> how to run synaptic update manager at startup?
[05:14] <zonyl> brightjoker: You may want to check out dd-wrt: http://www.dd-wrt.com   Flash that on there and bump the power in its settings
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> what's its command line in ubuntu?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> mythomaniac: I have, but I never understood what was so awsome about it
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> mythomaniac,  ive used it.. and i dont see the point.. read its docs if you want to use it..
[05:14] <sebsebseb> mythomaniac: in my case it was like wtf how I use
[05:15] <soreau> mythomaniac: I use an awesome WM.. it's called compiz
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> mythomaniac,  the archlinux wiki page also covers it in details
[05:15] <SomePriest> mythomaniac, I use AN awesome window manager.
[05:15] <mythomaniac> lol you guys putting down awesome have no idea the power it has
[05:15] <Athenon> Can anyone verify that Lyra Virus is a real computer virus/other malware or that it doesn't exist?
[05:15] <mythomaniac> lamers
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> mythomaniac,  i did use it.. and it does not suite my needs
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> I will stick with jwm
[05:16] <tritium> mythomaniac: it's all a matter of personal opinion and taste.  Please don't start a flamewar.
[05:16] <SomePriest> Athenon, What did google.com say?
[05:16] <brightjoker> can you explain lyra virus? cause i was to believe there were no linux viruses unless this is a first serious one...
[05:16] <Athenon> SomePriest:  doesnt....seem like it...but i didnt do an UBERLY thorough search?
[05:16] <mythomaniac> tritium, umm i'm not flaming man, just seems sad that people attack it because they think its not useful to them
[05:16] <SomePriest> I recall there WAS a Red-Hat based virus that affected Apache some years ago.  But that was over 10 years ago.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> its not usefull to me.. thsats what i said..
[05:17] <tritium> mythomaniac: nobody is attacking it.
[05:17] <gRunt> Can anyone recommend a good ftp client for linux that is gui based I need to be able to SSH into my ipod touch :s
[05:18] <sebsebseb> Athenon: your not on WIndows, and there aren't really any viruses for LInux as such
[05:18] <mythomaniac> man if this is the future of the lunix community - wow i pity your lives
[05:18] <SomePriest> gRunt, Filezilla now has a Linux port.
[05:18] <tritium> gRunt: nautilus works.
[05:18] <sebsebseb> gRunt: gftp?
[05:18] <musikgoat|main> gRunt: places-> connect to server
[05:18] <sebsebseb> !ftp
[05:18] <brightjoker> didnt that redhat virus only last a few hours though?
[05:18] <SomePriest> brightjoker, No idea, don't think so.
[05:18] <thefeds> how do I install the latest version of eclipse?
[05:18] <zonyl> brightjoker:  Any OS can have viruses.  I believe Linux dodges this issue because users are a bit more sophisticated plus you dont generally run as root unless you really need to.   There have been a number of worms affecting various base packages for *nix throughout the years though.
[05:19] <SomePriest> thefeds, The absolute latest?  Grab the binary from their website...?
[05:19] <zeitsofa> did anybody know a good howto to restore deletet files from filesystem? i can see the delete folder with autospy but i don't know i can recover it.
[05:19] <thefeds> isn't that bad?
[05:19] <sprinkmeier> zonyl, brightjoker morris worm anyone ?   :-)
[05:19] <thefeds> you're supposed to use apt-get right
[05:19] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, FS?
[05:19] <tritium> thefeds: yes, but you asked for the latest
[05:19] <brightjoker> haha im sorry to bug yall im high and am looking for just chat any suggestions of rooms for good general chat or anyone down for some convo
[05:19] <SomePriest> thefeds, Define bad.  It avoids the package manager, but its not "bad" per se.
[05:19] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: ext3
[05:19] <sebsebseb>  
[05:19] <gRunt> musikgoat|main, wow linux has everything! will try thanks, thanks guys sorry for the stupid questions still learning.....getting there pretty fast though  :)
[05:19] <brightjoker> morris worm?
[05:19] <sebsebseb>  
[05:19] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me to get an integrated webcam on a Dell XPS laptop to work?
[05:19] <SomePriest> thefeds, I think ubuntu has a backports mirror too.
[05:20] <soreau> ! webcam | Tamnakz
[05:20] <thefeds> what is backports?
[05:20] <SomePriest> thefeds, But backports seems rather shallow for ubuntu.
[05:20] <musikgoat|main> gRunt: all in fancy little packages :-P
[05:20] <Tamnakz> ubpttu. neither of those help
[05:20] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, you're SOL.... part of the journalling/recovery mandates that deleted inodes get wiped (or somesuch). Ran into this a few years ago, the only solution was to groves through a bit-dump and look for the files manually. There was an experimental ext3 undelete but it didn't work. Backups?
[05:20] <SomePriest> thefeds, It backports newer binaries to older systems (someone compiled new versions of software against previously released libs)
[05:21] <ReRamBeCap> How can I uninstall Xubuntu?!!
[05:21] <sebsebseb> !puregnome
[05:21] <Scarra3> I need some help I have a Canon MultiPASS F30 and I cant find the drivers for Ubuntu
[05:21] <sprinkmeier>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Worm
[05:21] <brightjoker> ok ok im sorry
[05:21] <zonyl> sprinkmeier: I have had *nix machines exploited, tcpsniffed, and wormed, but never had someone run an unknown binary as root ;)
[05:21] <brightjoker> but booo discrimination!
[05:21] <manmanman77> InternetWorms
[05:21] <manmanman77> is that like what ya get in ya ass
[05:22] <tritium> brightjoker: there was none
[05:22] <brightjoker> but no more from me i promise at least on the offense
[05:22] <sprinkmeier> zonyl, I guess you're not running sendmail then :-)
[05:22] <sebsebseb> !ot | brightjoker
[05:22] <tritium> manmanman77: stay on appropriate topic, please
[05:23] <zonyl> sprinkmeier: ;)
[05:23] <thefeds> How do I uninstall eclipse?
[05:23] <thefeds> I installed it with add/remove
[05:23] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: it was backup device :/ i did a dd from the partition, and i run foremost and autospy did show me the needed folders. so i think theres a way to restore the files. i don't want to send the device to dada restore center, because it is very expensive.
[05:23] <skierKyle> sudo apt-get remove eclipse
[05:23] <tritium> thefeds: same way
[05:23] <SomePriest> Bah, wish you could resize video in Skype like you can on Windows (in windows resizing the window resizes the video)
[05:23] <thefeds> One or more applications depend on eclipse. To remove eclipse and the dependent applications, use the Synaptic package manager.
[05:23] <thefeds> Cannot remove 'eclipse'
[05:24] <Scarra3> anyone know?
[05:24] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:24] <skierKyle> thefeds: Was this in terminal or Add/Remove?
[05:24] <thefeds> add/remove
[05:24] <silv3r_m00n> in gnome the icons have their whole caption displayed.. how to make them display only 2 lines and then dot dot
[05:25] <ReRamBeCap> How caan I remove xfce?@
[05:25] <zeitsofa> sudo apt-get remove xfce* ?
[05:26] <ReRamBeCap> Thanks very much!
[05:26] <gui> i was going to do a dual boot in my new labtop like windows and ubuntu and save all my stuff on a fat32 partition that both OS's can talk to. is that agood idea and will ubuntu be able to control all permissions correctly with fat32 directories?
[05:26] <skierKyle> thefeds: try... Applications - Accessories - Terminal, then when your in the terminal do, "sudo apt-get remove eclipse" no quotes.
[05:26] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, if you can DD the entire device then maybe you can send the image to the recovery place.
[05:26] <sebsebseb> gui: fat32 lol.  Ubuntu can read and write to NTFS.  and you can get a driver for Windows so that it can read  and write to Ext3
[05:26] <Scarra3> Does anyone know how I can get my Canon MultiPASS F30 to work with Ubuntu
[05:27] <gui> but i think fat32 is fine too isn't it?
[05:27] <sebsebseb> gui: Fat32 sucks
[05:27] <sprinkmeier> gui, fat does not have permissions (well, nothing other then RHSA)
[05:27] <mjec-not-laptop> Hi guys; I'm doing an install off -alternate and grub isn't installing because it's trying to hit the wrong drive. Once I drop into ash, how can I install grub on a different target?
[05:28] <gui> so you think that ntfs is better that fat32?
[05:28] <askvictor> I've just moved my system from straight partitions to LVM; what do I need to do to make my system bootable? I know I need to edit fstab and grub, do I need to create a new kernel or initramfs?
[05:28] <sprinkmeier> gui, for running windows, yes.
[05:28] <joljam> ubuntu is freezng on me while viewing streaming movies online.. what might be the problem
[05:28] <zonyl> Scarra3: Dont know if this helps. http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-MultiPASS_F30
[05:28] <L3dPlatedLinux> I cantb get quark music player to play anything and was wondering about the compiz window manager plugin and what to grab on the no focus part to make all windows not take focus when opened?
[05:29] <thefeds> ah I learned how to get rid of packages that aren't being used by anything
[05:30] <thefeds> sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:30] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: i did a dd. i used it with autospy :) what did you mean with recovery place?
[05:30] <Myztikal_> hi, i just installed ubuntu 7.10 and i can't firefox in it
[05:30] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[05:30] <Myztikal_> even though it seems like my wireless connects
[05:30] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, i meant the data recovery mob you mentioned.
[05:30] <Scarra3> Zonyl lol I have no clue im new to ubuntu
[05:31] <thefeds> so It's not evil installing something without using apt-get?
[05:31] <thefeds> when I used red hat, I was scolded for not using RPMs
[05:31] <thefeds> like I can install .tar.gzs?
[05:31] <jrib> thefeds: no, it's evil
[05:32] <Tamnakz> How can I tell if I have 32 or 64bit installed?
[05:32] <jrib> Tamnakz: uname -m
[05:32] <Tamnakz> jrib, can you explain more?
[05:32] <thefeds> whould I just install the tar.gz eclipse/
[05:32] <thefeds> or is that a bad idea
[05:32] <jrib> Tamnakz: not sure what to explain.  You just run that command
[05:32] <thefeds> screw up dependencies?
[05:32] <skierKyle> Tamnakz: you need to go into a terminal
[05:32] <jrib> thefeds: eclipse is in the repositories
[05:32] <sprinkmeier> thefeds, using the distro's package manager mages management/maintenance easier (applying patches, knowing what's installed ...) it's preferred by most places, but by no means mandatory.
[05:33] <thienma>  /set neat_colors rgybcw
[05:33] <Tamnakz> and in terminal just type    '-m'
[05:33] <zonyl> Scarra3:  It would appear that support for that printer is sketchy based on that page.   I have long ago gotten into the habbit of checking out what works before buying nowadays.  Someone referred me to a good resource this morning http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw
[05:33] <thefeds> add-remove has eclipse 3.2, latest is 3.4.2
[05:33] <jrib> Tamnakz: no... « uname -m »
[05:33] <thefeds> I want 3.4.2, and the C++ version
[05:33] <eseven73> !latest | thefeds
[05:33] <jrib> thefeds: then you have no choice but to go around the package manager
[05:33] <Tamnakz> returns with i686
[05:34] <jrib> Tamnakz: 32bit
[05:34] <Tamnakz> alright
[05:34] <thefeds> !backports
[05:34] <Tamnakz> thanks jrib!
[05:35] <Myztikal_> I just installed ubuntu 7.10 and for some reason firefox doesn't work
[05:35] <Myztikal_> It seems to connect to my wireless point and i've pinged google
[05:35] <Myztikal_> which worked
[05:36] <Myztikal_> can anyone help me?
[05:36] <zonyl> Myztikal_: Is it just firefox?  Have you tried "konqueror" or something else?
[05:36] <KittyKat> libQtGui.so.4 I was wondering where to find this file.
[05:36] <sebsebseb> Myztikal_: 7.10 no longer suppourted upgrade
[05:36] <KittyKat> Could I find on the CD itself or?
[05:36] <Myztikal_> well i download 8.10 but it didn't boot when i changed drive
[05:36] <Myztikal_> changed boot drive*
[05:37] <thefeds> why the hell does ubuntu have 3.2? 3.4.2 is stable enough.
[05:37] <thefeds> for eclipse
[05:37] <thefeds> if not, stable
[05:37] <thefeds> that's like 2 years olfd
[05:37] <sebsebseb> thefeds: Ubuntu only does security updates,  newer  versions of programs in next release
[05:37] <sebsebseb> thefeds: there might be a ppa for a later eclipse though
[05:37] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[05:37] <eseven73> stability is why
[05:38] <thefeds> so when 9.4 comes out, will it use eclipse 3.4.2?
[05:38] <thefeds> or <
[05:39] <bazhang> thefeds, you can install a more recent version if you wish
[05:39] <Jeruvy> thefeds: check it out, if it isn't you can suggest they do.
[05:39] <zonyl> thefeds: More than likely someone maintains a deb/repo for it that you can used instead that is probably newer. I would imagine seeing as Eclipse and Ubuntu is so popular.
[05:40] <thefeds> how do I install 3.4.2 now?
[05:40] <jeeves> how can I parse an apache log file to show how many accesses each DNS name came from and on what day?
[05:40] <tritium> thefeds: install it manually
[05:40] <thefeds> I don't see it in backports
[05:40] <Nalf> I have a usb device that prevents lsusb from displaying any out put when I plug it in. Is there any log I can look at to see what is going on?
[05:41] <thefeds> who is the mascot for ubuntu?
[05:41] <thefeds> all I see is the hugging thing
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, tail /var/log/messages
[05:41] <thefeds> such a hippie OS
[05:41] <Shadow121> LOL
[05:41] <jeeves> thefeds, as far as I know, it's just that circle
[05:41] <lstarnes> thefeds: there is no mascot iirc
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, or dmesg
[05:41] <thefeds> Peace man, share the love
[05:42] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, alright, thank you. The device is a linksys wusb54gs and if I plug it in it actually PREVENTs me from booting into ubuntu.
[05:42] <KittyKat> can anyone tell me where can I find files such as "libQtGui.so.4"?
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> nice Nalf
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> what about when you're in Ubuntu?
[05:42] <Nalf> nomasteryoda: Also.. might you know how to disable bluetooth?
[05:43] <J_P> hi all
[05:43] <KittyKat> Mainly for the Upek finger sensor library
[05:43] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, when I plug it in I notice nothing.. except I can't lsusb.. and it doesn't work to connect me to the internet. :\
[05:43] <tritium> KittyKat: /usr/lib, if the proper package is installed
[05:43] <J_P> ﻿how I change of "Sun Mar 15 01:38:53 EDT 2009" to ﻿"Sun Mar 15 01:38:53 BRT 2009" ? I try set in tzselect and set ok to brazil location, but still are EDT.
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, you can turn it off temporarily with "sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop"
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, I believe that is a card requiring Ndiswrapper
[05:44] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, from what I can see when I have the wusb plugged in the computer hangs at starting bluetooth. I saw a thread on the forums that '8.10 works with it right out of the box.' Fail, apparently.:P
[05:44] <dsdeiz> hi, is it possible to know the size of an app? let's say firefox
[05:44] <jeeves> anyone on this parsing issue?
[05:44] <KittyKat> tritium: it's telling me to install the missing libraries, though I dont know where to get them from .
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, check those logs
[05:44] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, Will do.. booting into ubuntu.. be back shortly.
[05:44] <sprinkmeier> J_P, tzselect will only tell you which environment variable to set for the shell you're in. Use the GUI tool (system->admin->time and date) to change the system default timezone
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> look for anything weird
[05:45] <thienma> quit
[05:45] <tritium> KittyKat: best guess is libqtgui4 package
[05:45] <sprinkmeier> dsdeiz, in synaptic, look for column visibility options. one of them should be installed size
[05:45] <thefeds> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[05:45] <thefeds> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[05:45] <thefeds> was found after searching the following locations:
[05:45] <thefeds> /home/thefeds/Desktop/eclipse/jre/bin/java
[05:45] <thefeds> java in your current PATH
[05:45] <FloodBot1> thefeds: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <J_P> sprinkmeier: I don't have GUI, how is possible to do this via command line ?
[05:46] <tritium> !java | thefeds
[05:47] <mjec-not-laptop> jeeves: I know you asked a while ago, but #apache is probably better able to answer your question
[05:48] <J_P> sprinkmeier: you know ?
[05:48] <crabgrass> hey guys, i'm having a problem here. mpdscribble is telling me that i can't load libmpd.so.0, but mpd is working right now, so i'm guessing it's installed and working. synaptic says it's working, at least. only problem is that mpdscribble isn't telling me where it's looking for libmpd.so.0 so i can't go off making any symlinks or anything. ideas?
[05:48] <KittyKat> Thanks, tritium
[05:48] <thefeds> should I install sun java or gcj java?
[05:48] <sprinkmeier> J_P, /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime are modified by the GUI tool. one contains a simple string, one is a copy of the relevant zone info file (can't remember where others are kept ATM). I don't know where else info is kept. maybe dkpg --reconfigure ????
[05:48] <jeeves> mjec-not-laptop, ok, thanks
[05:49] <J_P> sprinkmeier: yeh. wi will try dpkg --reconfigure tzselect
[05:49] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Ya, Vlc, same thing.  Very grainy, and quite slow (like its dropping frames)
[05:50] <TuTUXG> crabgrass, install libmpd0
[05:50] <sprinkmeier> J_P, the timezone files are in /usr/share/zoneinfo/. The relevant one is copied to /etc for libc to use.
[05:50] <crabgrass> TuTUXG: it is installed. that's my problem.
[05:51] <TuTUXG> crabgrass, that file should be located under /usr/lib/
[05:52] <doleyb> Why does ubuntu have a package for cvsbook-ja but not in english?
[05:52] <crabgrass> TuTUXG: ah, i see. had to make a symlink. thanks for the assisst.
[05:52] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Granted, the 2D rendering on the desktop is bloody awful too  :)
[05:52] <crabgrass> aw hell, now it's dying with "fatal: cannot find configuration file"
[05:53] <sprinkmeier> J_P, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using the Command Line(terminal)
[05:53] <J_P> sprinkmeier: yeh i get timezone using tzselect and copy it to /etc/timezone and works fine ;-)
[05:54] <sprinkmeier> J_P, the above link says to run "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata". Seems to work here (8.04)
[05:55] <Shadow121> TEST
[05:55] <J_P> sprinkmeier: humm really! That i think work too
[05:55] <J_P> sprinkmeier: thanks
[05:57] <MFen> can someone remind me of the name of the software that allows you to script the gnome/X gui, i.e. automate mouse clicks and such?
[05:58] <MFen> at some point i actually installed it but i can't remember the name and apt-cache search isn't helping me
[05:58] <MFen> you'd use it, for example, to automatically system test software
[05:59] <MFen> akin to autoit for windows
[05:59] <MFen> ah, it was xnee, thanks anyway
[06:00] <Deodorant> how do i copy colours with text on irssi?
[06:00] <Deodorant> seems like an obvious function to have
[06:00] <askvictor> I have /boot on a seperate partition; I've set groot in grub's menu.list, but grub can't find the kernel etc since it's looking for /boot/vmlinuz... in the boot partition rather than just /vmlinuz... - is there a way to configure the automagic kernels thing to not prepend /boot to the kernel path?
[06:00] <Deodorant> lol
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> askvictor,  ive seen the trick done befor where  you have a link in the /boot/ partition that links /boot/ to .. (i think) that way /boot/ is actually the / of the boot partiotion :)
[06:04] <kernel09l> how can i install poweriso
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> kernel09l,  wine powerisoinstaller.exe
[06:05] <kernel09l> dr_willis, so i've to install wine first then
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> kernel09l,  logically.. yes.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:06] <kernel09l> then can you pls. point me to install wine first
[06:06] <kernel09l> thanks
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> its in the package maanger
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> or use the latest from the winehq repos
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[06:07] <fikr> Hi, anyone know application to detect hotspot source (like radar)?
[06:07] <joetheodd> Hey guys. I mounted up my NTFS partition, opened gparted, unmounted it.. and can't mount it or boot windows. I know I didn't nuke it cause windows will partially boot.. is there any nifty app on the repos to save my stuff?
[06:07] <stewart_> if i am on a remote server via ssh whats the best way to pull files from my machine to that remote server?
[06:08] <joetheodd> stewart_: try scp. man scp for usage
[06:08] <kernel09l> is there a way i can use poweriso without installing wine or extracting .daa files
[06:09]  * Nalf mutters
[06:10] <doleyb> kernel09l: do you have the linux version of poweriso?
[06:11] <kernel09l> doleyb: yes
[06:11] <doleyb> kernel09l: Um, maybe you need to get  http://poweriso.com/poweriso-1.2.tar.gz
[06:12] <kernel09l> doleyb: yes i did get it but doesn't work.
[06:12] <stewart_> if i am on my server do i need to know the ip address of my localmachine to pull files from it? Is there a way for the command to pickup that its the machine that has the incoming ssh command?
[06:12] <doleyb> kernel09l: oh...
[06:12] <stewart_> all via scp
[06:12] <kernel09l> doleyb: i just need to extract .daa files
[06:13] <doleyb> kernel09l: so how does poweriso fail to do that?
[06:13] <Ndshacker> this is getting ridiculus
[06:13] <Ndshacker> Ive reinstalled Ubuntu three times today
[06:13] <dreamnid> stewart_: I think the answer is no
[06:13] <sprinkmeier> stewart_, sort of... you could set up a reverse tunnel, then scp to/from ::1 (localhost)
[06:14] <dreamnid> stewart_: I usually just scp from the machine itself... otherwise you can do a reverse tunnel
[06:14] <kernel09l> doleyb: when i run it, states: unrecognized parmater
[06:14] <Azharn> Is there a bash client for downloading torrents? I used to have one on my old fedora box, can't remember what it was called for the life of me. I know it's not rtorrent... that's about it.
[06:14] <doleyb> kernel09l: well what did you run it with?
[06:14] <Ndshacker> Ive actually made a aptonnCD disk :|
[06:14] <yoyit2> how do i get line-in audio to play out my speakers??
[06:15] <kernel09l> doleyb: i ran "./poweriso filename.daa"
[06:15] <joetheodd> Hey guys -- I know this is an almost religious question, but ext2/3 for home use?
[06:16] <doleyb> kernel09l: tryp ./poweriso list filename.daa
[06:16] <doleyb> joetheodd: ext3
[06:16] <joetheodd> doleyb, thanks.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> joetheodd,  not much reason to not use ext3
[06:16] <sprinkmeier> joetheodd, ext3. it;s ext2 with journalling, so you really save on fsck on bootup.
[06:17] <yoyit2> how do i get my line-in to play through my speakers?????????
[06:17] <kernel09l> doleyb: bad parameter: list
[06:18] <doleyb> kernel09l: ok then, ./poweriso list filename.daa / -r
[06:18] <Azharn> Is there a bash client for downloading torrents? I used to have one on my old fedora box, can't remember what it was called for the life of me. I know it's not rtorrent... that's about it.
[06:19] <doleyb> kernel09l: and I think you later want ./poweriso extract filename.daa / -od /tmp
[06:20] <doleyb> Azharn: btdownloadcurses
[06:20] <Azharn> Is that the package name?
[06:20] <smotchkkiss> can i make an alias that accepts an argument/param?
[06:20] <doleyb> Azharn: get package either bittorrent or bittornado
[06:20] <kernel09l> doleyb: file version mismatch.
[06:21] <smotchkkiss> can i make an alias that accepts an argument/param?  e.g., $ my_alias blah      would result in:   cd path/to/blah
[06:21] <lfive> ...
[06:22] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, if in bash, use a function
[06:22] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: i am in bash. how do make a function?
[06:22] <doleyb> kernel09l: well idk what to do about the version problem.  Maybe that version of poweriso is old and you should get a newer one.  Maybe your daa is corrupted.  Maybe you should try acetoneteam.org instead
[06:23] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, been a while... give me a few minutes.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[06:23] <Azharn> doleyb: after I install the package(s)... how do I use them in bash?
[06:24] <Azharn> I only have ssh abilities to the box.
[06:24] <doleyb> Azharn: once they're on, you can type bitdownloadcurses filename.torrent.
[06:24] <doleyb> Azharn: or try dpkg -L bittornado to see what it's programs are called.
[06:25] <sprinkmeier> Dr_Willis, smotchkkiss thanks for the link, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/functions.html looks about right
[06:25] <thefeds> argh ubuntu is shit. 3 year old packages... FAIL
[06:25] <doleyb> Azharn: the name actually btdownloadcurses, no letter i
[06:25] <thefeds> I'm uninstalling this piece of crap
[06:25] <sysdoc> lol
[06:25] <daliang> hello
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> demand a refund...
[06:26] <thefeds> exactly
[06:26] <thefeds> I'll email mark
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> have a nice day..
[06:26] <sysdoc> lol
[06:26] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: i don't see how to pass arguments into the functions ...
[06:26] <sprinkmeier> thefeds, I thinks he's on the ISS again... better get an off-planet e-stamp
[06:26] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:27] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, IIRC things like $1 work inside bash functions
[06:27] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: ok testing :)
[06:27] <thefeds> hey, he can check his email on this ISS
[06:27] <Azharn> doleyb: thanks a bunch, works perfectly :)
[06:27] <thefeds> they have computers there
[06:27] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: gold!
[06:27] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: thanks a million
[06:28] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, thank Dr_Willis , he had the link
[06:28] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:28] <smotchkkiss> thanks dr willis :)
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> memorise that guide now
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:29] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, are you still around? ^_^
[06:29] <sprinkmeier> Dr_Willis, "never memorize what you can look up" Einstein
[06:29] <sprinkmeier> Dr_Willis, I'll definetely bookmark it though :-)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> sprinkmeier,  he had a hard time finding his shoes in the morning..  :) also tended to get the wrong feet...
[06:30] <Nalf> How should I go about reporting/fixing http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30 ?
[06:31] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> daliang,  if you put some spaces around the url , it might bne actually clickable in our chat clients :)
[06:32] <Nalf> http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360 , for daliang. ;]
[06:32] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"        http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:33]  * Nalf chuckles.
[06:33] <daliang> Dr_Willis:Is that's right?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> daliang,  looks like you need some openssl dev files installed.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> md5.c:20:25: error: openssl/md5.h: No such file or directory
[06:34] <MrDudle> i downloaded ubuntu and all i got was a winrar folder
[06:34] <MrDudle> with an .iso extension
[06:34] <daliang> but i have installed openssl!
[06:34] <Nalf> !install | MrDudle
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> MrDudle,  no you dident.. You got a silly program called winrar that decided it should be the default for iso files...
[06:34] <MrDudle> ooooooooh
[06:34] <MrDudle> ty Dr_Willis :)
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> MrDudle,   use a program like imgburn to burn it to cd
[06:35] <MrDudle> kk
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> MrDudle,  and write a nasty letter to the rar guys :)
[06:35] <MrDudle> i thought maybe i got a bad file
[06:35] <MrDudle> and Nalf
[06:35] <lstarnes> daliang: what about libssl-dev?
[06:35] <MrDudle> i've installed ubuntu tons of times
[06:35] <MrDudle> i've just never had this happen
[06:35] <FloodBot1> MrDudle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <daliang> Dr_Willis:what's kinds of openssl dev files should i install?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> You  are  seeing what happens with how windows handles default filetypes. and the programs all try to outdo each other. :)
[06:35] <sprinkmeier> MrDudle, use MD5sum to check the file is right and/or use mediacheck when you boot off the CD
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> daliang,  not a clue.. check ghe package manager for 'ssl' and 'dev' and insttall them all perhaps
[06:36] <lstarnes> daliang: libssl-dev contains the development files (such as headers) for openssl
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> !find openssl
[06:36] <mercutio22> I can't compose accents in t kile! i.e. á please help me correct that
[06:36] <sprinkmeier> daliang, "dpkg --search /usr/include/openssl/md5.h" calims it came from libssl-dev
[06:37] <daliang> Dr_Willis:thank you very much i will try
[06:37] <daliang> lstarnes:thank you too
[06:37] <daliang> sprinkmeier: ok
[06:37] <Ndshacker> do you guys have suggestions for good programs?
[06:39] <Nalf> If there is a kernel issue with hardware where do I report it?
[06:39] <chronographer> hi. I have a prob with keyboard. I use a apple alum. keyboard and it's nice. Just recently the numeric keypad stopped working for numbers. It used to work (clear is numlock) now that do't work... anyone familiar with this?
[06:39] <chronographer> please help me troubleshoot it
[06:40] <chronographer> anyone?
[06:40] <doleyb> chronographer: well, run xev and see if pushing numpad does any text
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> troube shooting test #1 - try it in the console.. see if all the keys work..
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> trouble shooting test #2 - try  it on a differnet machine :)
[06:41] <chronographer> (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock)
[06:42] <chronographer> hmm... output seems correct
[06:42] <daliang> ubottu:thank you
[06:43] <chronographer> but in , for example, gedit. numbers aren't typed.
[06:43] <Alex_21> Hi, All, I am following https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13899, but I forgot to check my partition table. I am now needing to know the "HDa8" in my case, which is differnt. How can I do this?
[06:43] <Alex_21> Different
[06:43] <chronographer> (keysym 0xffb3, KP_3) in xev, but nothing in gedit
[06:44] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"
[06:44] <Alex_21> I'm still in the installer
[06:44] <chronographer> works in console too
[06:44] <chronographer> what next?
[06:44] <Alex_21> So I have no access to fdisk
[06:44] <chronographer> it must be gnomes problem?
[06:45] <jaek_> is there a ppa or repo that has the nvidia beta driver? i'd rather not have to install it manually
[06:45] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys have a problem with sharing a folder : http://pastebin.com/m811df2a
[06:45] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, still loading the link you gave to see what you're up to, _slow_ 'net here :-(
[06:45] <Alex_21> Ok, thanks
[06:45] <Alex_21> It is a tricky install
[06:45] <chronographer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=nvidia
[06:46] <zapz> guys help me... I can't boot to my Ubuntu... Since I changed the compizfusion settings...
[06:46] <chronographer> ohletmeinnowjesu: its a permissions problem
[06:47] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, try the mount command with "-o ro" (read-only, just in case) with different device until you trip across the right one?
[06:47] <chronographer> zapz: reconfigure X
[06:47] <zapz> choronographer how? ive been googling it.... no luck
[06:47] <chronographer> Dr_Willis: keyboard works fine in console, and xev reports correct keys, how should I fix it in gnome?
[06:48] <MatthewMPP> I am familiar with linux but new to ubuntu. I have just installed it on my desktop computer and I am impressed with how user friendly it is; however, I can't get ubuntu to mount a cd or dvd.  It just says that there is "no media found".  (Yes, I have a disk in the drive.)  I have googled the issue and it seems to be a common problem, but I could not find the solution on any of the pages I read.  Thx.
[06:48] <chronographer> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    <- I think
[06:48] <Alex_21> I don't know what any devices are at the moment
[06:48] <chronographer> backup your xorg first
[06:48] <Alex_21> Hmm
[06:48] <Ndshacker> What device are you looking for?
[06:48] <zapz> chronographer seems hard, do u have URL's?
[06:48] <chronographer> zapz: first try "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BACKUP
[06:49] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, run "mount" to see if you can find any devices mentioned. Then.... guess?
[06:49] <Ndshacker> Oh, Alex, open up Gparted
[06:49] <Alex_21> I'm looking for the one I need to mount while following https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13899 . But mine seems different
[06:49] <chronographer> er...try the above. if it's works, put it back
[06:49] <chronographer> i mean. if it is WORSE put it back
[06:50] <anatashinu> hey
[06:50] <chronographer> that will move your screen settings to a backup and Ubuntu will make new ones (hopefully working new ones)
[06:50] <anatashinu> i just made a usb startup
[06:50] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, the above guide uses /dev/hda implying IDE disks. is the system newer? SATA? should it be /dev/sda?
[06:50] <Alex_21> Ok, so "Mount" on its own will spit out a list of devices?
[06:50] <anatashinu> are you supposed to just use by saying try without doing anything to system?
[06:50] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, yes, it should
[06:50] <Ndshacker> Alex: Open up your partition Manager
[06:51] <Alex_21> I'm still in the installer
[06:51] <Ndshacker> and you can see in graphical form which drives are what
[06:51] <Ndshacker> Oh :|
[06:51] <sprinkmeier> anatashinu, yes, that's a good way to look at Ubuntu w/o changing anything
[06:51] <Alex_21> And also, It is an IDE disk
[06:51] <anatashinu> ok
[06:51] <Ndshacker> when in doubt: Reformat the whole dang thing
[06:51] <anatashinu> but i already have it installed
[06:51] <anatashinu> i just want to have ubuntu portable
[06:51] <mercutio22> I can't type accents in KDE apps. Gnome apps are cool. Can I get some help? It should be easy right?
[06:52] <Alex_21> I'm trying to find the sixth partition on the IDE Drive
[06:52] <anatashinu> so is that how i should do it?
[06:52] <Ndshacker> sda6
[06:52] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, what does mount say? do you have fdisk at all?
[06:52] <Ndshacker> Would be the sixth one on a IDE drive
[06:52] <Ndshacker> assuming you have one drive
[06:52] <sprinkmeier> anatashinu, so you installed from USB and want to run the installed version?
[06:52] <Ndshacker> or its on the first
[06:53] <anatashinu> no.
[06:53] <Ndshacker> my pc wont boot from usb ;(
[06:53] <Alex_21> Unless fdisk is on the Alternate CD, I don't have it
[06:53] <anatashinu> I made a USB startup using the USB startup tool.
[06:53] <anatashinu> I just want it to be a portable version of Ubuntu
[06:53] <Ndshacker> Ah, I hate alternative disks :S
[06:53] <jimijix1> i have a usb hard drive that i can't safely remove in vista, and i'm unable to mount it in linux because of it, how do i mount it?
[06:53] <anatashinu> so should I just use the try option?
[06:54] <Ndshacker> Alex: why do you have 6 partitions?
[06:54] <Alex_21> I have no choice but to leave the thing as is until I can find the solution
[06:54] <sprinkmeier> anatashinu, OK, try the 'live' option (i.e. try it without installing). Note that, onse started, you can actually mount/mess up the existing partitions if you try hardenough :-)
[06:54] <Alex_21> It is a doel boot system
[06:54] <lulzman> hai everyone
[06:54] <Ndshacker> still
[06:54] <anatashinu> ok
[06:54] <Ndshacker> 6?
[06:54] <anatashinu> =)
[06:54] <anatashinu> thanks
[06:54] <Ndshacker> wait
[06:54] <Ndshacker> stop!
[06:55] <FloodBot1> Ndshacker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:55] <Ndshacker> Dual boot?
[06:55] <Ndshacker> What is the other system?
[06:55] <Alex_21> Mac OS 9.2.1. See https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13899
[06:55] <Ndshacker> mmk
[06:55] <Ndshacker> Im not familiar with Mac
[06:56] <Ndshacker> But shouldnt you be able to see the partiitions in there?
[06:56] <chronographer> what software might change gnome recognising my numeric keypad?
[06:56] <Alex_21> I'm stuck in the Linux installer
[06:56] <fikr> Hi, how to uninstall an application and all of its setting by using Application->Add/Remove?
[06:56] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, can you run mount?
[06:56] <sugi> if im running a livecd, can i see my harddrive from it?
[06:56] <chronographer> sugi: yes
[06:56] <Ndshacker> then :s
[06:57] <Ndshacker> You may need to hard reboot :s
[06:57] <Alex_21> Yes, I can run mount
[06:57] <Ndshacker> Or just try them all
[06:57] <sugi> chronographer: i can't find it anywhere
[06:57] <fieldse> fikr I think you want to use package manager to see dependencies and uninstall them all, dunno best answer
[06:57] <Ndshacker> then run it
[06:57] <Alex_21> I will
[06:57] <chronographer> places - computer.
[06:57] <sugi> chronographer: it's not in /media folder, or within nautilus
[06:57] <Alex_21> I have to wait for an assistant as the shel in the installer has no text to speech
[06:58] <Alex_21> Assistance, sorry
[06:58] <MatthewMPP> I have a question about ubuntu.
[06:58] <Ndshacker> mmk
[06:58] <sugi> chronographer: it just show me my two cd drives, and the filesystem *from the livecd*
[06:58] <chronographer> check in gparted
[06:58] <Alex_21> You have to mount the local HD
[06:59] <Alex_21> Lol
[06:59] <Ndshacker>  mount -l -t type
[06:59] <Ndshacker> Try that
[06:59] <Ndshacker> shout show it all including file systems
[06:59] <Nalf> Can someone see if they know anything about http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30 ?
[06:59] <Alex_21> then why include -t type?
[06:59] <Ndshacker> If you want to search for a specific type
[07:00] <Ndshacker> I would geuss you would look for raw
[07:00] <Ndshacker> Since it is a dual boot
[07:00] <sugi> Ndshacker: who are you talking to?  put their name infront of it.
[07:00] <fikr> fieldse: oh, is there simpler way??
[07:00] <Ndshacker> Sugi: ok, sorry
[07:00] <fieldse> fikr Not sure! Would like to know if you find out though...
[07:00] <sugi> Ndshacker: no probelm at all :D  it sounds like your helping me :p
[07:00] <Ndshacker> Alex: when in doubt of a command type man in front of it :)
[07:00] <Alex_21> Ok, Thanks
[07:01] <Alex_21> Lol
[07:01] <Ndshacker> np
[07:01] <Alex_21> I'll have to wait as I said
[07:01] <fieldse> fikr there usually is, but finding it sometimes can be more trouble than never knowing, lol
[07:01] <sugi> chronographer: wow, i think my harddrive got toasted.  ubuntu isn't picking it up.
[07:01] <Ndshacker> Alex: Well, better to have a "battle plan"
[07:01] <chronographer> not in gparted? not in fdisk -l ??
[07:02] <Ndshacker> Sugi: YOur main HDD?
[07:02] <sugi> chronographer: will do, thanks fo the tip
[07:02] <Alex_21> Yes, too true. Lol. Why not include TTS on the Sheel durring install?
[07:02] <sugi> Ndshacker: yea, my main harddrive.  it's not being picked up at all. let me see if my bios can even see it
[07:03] <Ndshacker> If not, try other disk utilites
[07:03] <MatthewMPP> Mac uses weird partitions I just messed up an old apple laptop a couple of days ago.
[07:03] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Once I had a HDD that even the windows installer wouldnt catch, but a bottable partitioner did
[07:04] <Alex_21> Lol, too true
[07:04] <chronographer> MatthewMPP: i have been having issues trying to install osx86 lately, usually partition crap. cant boot after install!
[07:04] <Alex_21> I wish it wasn't an old-world Mac
[07:04] <Ndshacker> Thats the only type of OS ive never tried :\ OSX
[07:04] <MatthewMPP> I had the same problem.  I eventually gave up on it.
[07:04] <Alex_21> It is the best
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Except I cant run it
[07:05] <Alex_21> The same problem as who?
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Me being 14, I dont have money to shell out
[07:05] <fieldse> >> Greetings all:  Quick call:  Recommendations for favorite IRC servers / channels? (linux, alternative distros, general chat, community)
[07:05] <chronographer> Ndshacker: try osx86!
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Naw
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Ill run it in a virtual PC
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Not worth Dual booting, just to try it
[07:05] <Flynsarmy> Somehow flash player disappeared from firefox. how do i get it back again?
[07:06] <Ndshacker> Fly: go to a flash website and tell it to install
[07:06] <Alex_21> Thanks all for the help
[07:06] <Alex_21> Good night
[07:06] <Ndshacker> Night
[07:06] <sugi> Ndshacker: i have two pcs. one for linux and one for windows.  my windows computer is a lot older then my linux one.  so you can guess i use my linux one more.  this is problem the main issue, but i don't really keep my window's computer up to date including hte anti-virus software.  i put a file on my comptuer and explorer.exe crahed on me. and kept on crashing.
[07:06] <Ndshacker> Sugi: That sucks
[07:07] <MatthewMPP> I could not reboot the apple laptop after installing Debian on it.  It sees the "yaboot" and gives me a command prompt but thats all it does.
[07:07] <sugi> Ndshacker: so i pop in my linux disc to see if it can see my harddrive. because windows wasn't picking it up.  so i think the window's partiton is trashed.  i doubt my hdd is trashed, but man.  this virus is doing something in
[07:07] <Ndshacker> Sugi: May I reccomend reformating the whole thing?
[07:08] <Flynsarmy> Ndshacker, A later version is available in a software channel. should i get the one from adobe website or the one in my software channel?
[07:08] <ardiansyah> ;;;;;;
[07:08] <Ndshacker> Fly: Software Channel if you can
[07:08] <b4chip> hi there. Lets say i have a public IP adress and a domain name, I wish to host myself that domain name. How to do that? I was trying to change the nameservers to my IP but this doen't work.
[07:08] <Ndshacker> Eh?
[07:09] <Ndshacker> b4chip: are you asking about hosting a wbsite on your Pc?
[07:09] <b4chip> Ndshacker: yes
[07:09] <Ndshacker> b4chip: do you understand the risks?
[07:09] <b4chip> Ndshacker: do u know how to do it?
[07:09] <sugi> Ndshacker: oh im going to. ii was having some issues on it before, but like i said, my window's computer is not at the toip of my to-do list.  so i let a lot of things go.   I have nothign important on my MAIN harddrive expect for ONE document. Hahahah and i kid you not. everythign of importance is on my second hdd for the time being is unplugged.  just incase.  if possible I NEED that one document. hahhaha im on a conquest
[07:10] <zapz> guys how can I disable my COmpiz in Terminal?
[07:10] <Ndshacker> Sugi
[07:10] <Ndshacker> There are ways to get it back:
[07:10] <sugi> Ndshacker: yes sir?
[07:11] <Ndshacker> Once you can see it, format it but dont reinstall, plug it in to your pc as a secondary, and use a recovery program
[07:11] <Ndshacker> b4chip: Yes I know how to do it
[07:11] <Ndshacker> Sugi: It is imperative you dont put anything on it once you get it formatted
[07:11] <Circs> I'm looking for a PCI wifi card that will work without much hackery in Ubuntu 8.04, any help please? I'd like to stay with linksys
[07:11] <sugi> Ndshacker: oh i know. if i need to i can use data recover programs.  but I have to say i wasn't planning on spending the rest of my weeken fixing my crapping window's partition
[07:12] <Ndshacker> :D
[07:12] <mgolisch> format it?
[07:12] <mgolisch> why that?
[07:12] <Ndshacker> Eh?
[07:12] <sugi> Ndshacker: im thinking about dbanning the partition after getting that file.  have you hard of this?
[07:12] <Ndshacker> Because he has a dterimental virus
[07:12] <mgolisch> oh i see
[07:12] <Ndshacker> Sugi: I cant say I have, sorry, im only 14 after all :)
[07:13] <sugi> Ndshacker: hahah you should look into.  im pretty sure it's unix based. but please for the love of everything holy, don't hold me to it.
[07:14] <Ndshacker> Sugi: From what I see on google, wait until after you get the file back. It looks like its a massive type of Data Eraser :s
[07:14] <hwsmsm> 1122222
[07:14] <Ndshacker> And after a good Gutman, you aint getting that file back
[07:14] <fieldse> sugi
[07:15] <fieldse> sugi: your issue: you have virus took out windows pc, you want to recover 1 file but don't want to spend weekend on it, right?
[07:15] <sugi> Ndshacker: yes it is.  it's very good for makign sure those nasty virus won't come back.  if anythign a reformat, which I have never had the personal of having one. this being my second virus of reasonable damage
[07:15] <sugi> fieldse: yes sir
[07:16] <rideback> hello all
[07:16] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Considering Linux's virus capabilities, I think You can risk plugging it in BEFORE Dbanning it
[07:16] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys
[07:16] <Ndshacker> but back up all your files just incase
[07:16] <rideback> i'm trying to compile but i get
[07:16] <rideback> checking for gcc... gcc
[07:16] <rideback> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:16] <rideback> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[07:16] <FloodBot1> rideback: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:17] <fieldse> @sugi - I had to recover fragged XP install, which is how I got into linux (this month).  I got a ubuntu recovery disk, had ALL kinds of goodies, so I was able to back up files
[07:17] <sugi> i would like to address everyone on this matter, i am sorry for my poor english and grammer issues. let me know if i am unclear on specialize topic
[07:17] <Reidy> Can I get some technical help from someone please?
[07:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> can some one explain to me the difference between owner, group & users fields within the permissions field for a given file/folder?
[07:17] <Ndshacker> Sugi: I hadnt even noticed, honestly
[07:17] <Nephilus> I to need help
[07:18] <sugi> Ndshacker: good good, i did, but if i am the only one. then thats oh kay.
[07:18] <mgolisch> ohletmeinnowjesu: whats unclear about those?
[07:18] <Nephilus> When I open sites that require flash such as youtube or pandora I get a black-gray screen instead of the vid etc. Any ideas?
[07:18] <fieldse> @sugi - get a linux recovery disk, you should be able to boot and see your windows files, back it up onto a floppy/usb, then: format/reinstall.  Shouldn't take you more than a couple hours
[07:18] <Ndshacker> oh: Owner is the absolute master, you set it via command line with the chown commands, Groups are so that more than one person can have the same priveleges without setting each one manually, users are for one persons priveleges
[07:19] <grant2823> I've got a problem with wine: when I run a program nothing happens. Here's the pastebin for running it from the command line
[07:19] <grant2823> http://pastebin.com/d22186f0f
[07:19] <tarokun> anyone knows any decent file hosters?
[07:19] <sugi> fieldse: i have recover programs on windows and trouble shooting, reformatting softwae on both windows and linux so either is fine by me.  if you have any pesonal picks please share with me those goodies applications you used in ubuntu's OS
[07:19] <mgolisch> you cant set multiple user permissiions anyways
[07:19] <Nephilus> Is there a server for linux mint? lol
[07:19] <mgolisch> unless you enable acls
[07:19] <Reidy> I'm trying to figure out why my download speeds for updating and such are super slow. Anyone have any ideas? I've checked my internet, reset the router and modem, and nothing is improving..
[07:19] <mgolisch> which shouldnt be by default
[07:19] <fieldse> @nephilus what version flash you using? and what browser? (firefox i assume?)
[07:19] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[07:19] <fieldse> @sugi sure, one sec
[07:19] <rideback> any one
[07:19] <rideback> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:19] <Nephilus> Fieldse: firefox and the newest flash
[07:19] <fieldse> @sugi coffee break but will find link to recovery disk
[07:20] <magnetron> !mint | Nephilus
[07:20] <Ndshacker> may I reccomend OphCrack?
[07:20] <pseudomorph> does anyone know why the installer for 8.10 won't see my hdd even though it boots fine and can be seen in parted magic etc
[07:20] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: thnx
[07:20] <fieldse> @nephilus make sure you've got flash 10 plugin on firefox. reinstall if need be, that did it for me
[07:20] <Ndshacker> Sugi: I use knoppix
[07:20] <sugi> fieldse: Ndshacker:  about half the time, my windows computer freeeze at the logo splash screen of the bios, and the over half it loggs into windows, but then bluue screens.  I have notice this same blue screen issue while trying to scan with my anti-virus apllication either in safe mode or normal user of windows
[07:20] <Nephilus> Okay I'll try that
[07:21] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Get rid of that windows install, it sounds like its fubared
[07:21] <Reidy> Anyone for me?
[07:21] <zapz> guys how can I disable my COmpizfusion in Terminal?
[07:21] <sprinkmeier> Reidy, are you using the closest/fastest repos?
[07:21] <Ndshacker> sugo Apt-get remove Compiz compiz-core
[07:22] <Ndshacker> *sudo
[07:22] <Ndshacker> ignore the caps >.<
[07:22] <grant2823> I'm having trouble running programs with wine. Here's the error: http://pastebin.com/d22186f0f
[07:22] <Reidy> Just installed Ubuntu after Vista wouldn't go back on, go figure, so repos has something to do with servers or something?
[07:22] <sugi> Ndshacker: i broke my linux cherry with KDE, but found my true love with gnome. if XFCE can get their act together and get some of those "duh" feature working, i would commit to xfce in a second.  actually i always have a both GUI installed :D
[07:22] <magnetron> !wine | grant2823
[07:23] <zapz> what does it do > deleting my compiz?
[07:23] <RickZilla> Having a really tough time getting sound out of audacity in ubuntu. I installed lame, and I get sound just fine in other apps. Tried different combinations of output devices in preferences, but still no luck. Any ideas of what to check for next?
[07:23] <Ndshacker> yes
[07:23] <zapz> what does it do > deleting my compiz? Ndshacker
[07:23] <sprinkmeier> Reidy, yes. they're mirrors of the official packages. Use Synaptic properties to find/set the closest one
[07:23] <Ndshacker> That will uninstall it
[07:23] <lstarnes> zapz: that will remove compiz's packages
[07:23] <zapz> whhhaaa... okay I'll just download it again.....
[07:23] <Ndshacker> If you want to be specific :|
[07:23] <ninsei> anyone know of a good tutorial on using SLI in Ubuntu?
[07:23] <lstarnes> zapz: it may be safer to just disable it rather than removing it complerely
[07:23] <lstarnes> *completely
[07:24] <zapz> I can't boot to my ubuntu since I change a settings in my compiz
[07:24] <zapz> hahahhahah.... whhhaaa I already did
[07:24] <Ndshacker> hahaha
[07:24] <fieldse> aha! sugi: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:24] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse:  darn I have this file backed on my on linux computer, but I am unsure if it's updated. this is starting to bug me now. and my windows computer is havign some sort of heart-attacking
[07:24] <Reidy> @ Sprinkmeier: So I just go into System > Synaptic Package Manager > ?? Then what?
[07:24] <sugi> fieldse: thank you sir. i am browsing it now
[07:25] <zapz> lstarnes in case I want to disable it... what should i do?
[07:25] <sprinkmeier> Reidy, settings, repositories, click on "download from"
[07:25] <Ndshacker> sugi: if you have it backed up, try the link he gave you, and save that
[07:25] <Ndshacker> then you can marge them if the file is corrupted
[07:25] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse: now my computer is telling me that there is now such harddrive to load the OS off of. nice
[07:25] <Ndshacker> *merge
[07:26] <Ndshacker> that srsly sucks
[07:26] <fieldse> @sugi: lol! haha... yeah.  Just boot up with that CD.. or hell, you don't really even need to use a recovery CD, honestly. but boot up with CD on windows machine, mount windows HD. won't take 30 mins if you're lucky
[07:27] <Ndshacker> I reinstall Ubuntu in under an hour
[07:27] <Ndshacker> So this should take no time at all
[07:27] <sugi> fieldse: this website and recover application is only directed towards GNU/UNIX base OS correct?
[07:27] <zapz> lstarnes in case I want to disable it... what should i do?
[07:27] <Arelis_> Hello people. I am about to install Ubuntu onto my mac mini, but the automatic partition tool didn't quite work so well so i used manual partitioning. However what partitions should i add? I have a swap partition of 4GB, now what?
[07:28] <Ndshacker> Arelis, thatw ay to much swap
[07:28] <lstarnes> zapz: give me a few minutes to find that out please
[07:28] <Arelis_> Ndshacker: i have 2GB of RAM
[07:28] <Ndshacker> If you have a half decent amount of ram 51 2 mb, you only need 1 gb
[07:28] <Ndshacker> The nyou prob dont need any
[07:28] <Ndshacker> butgo with 1
[07:28] <Arelis_> "The size of your swap should be equal to twice your computer's physical 	RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM. For physical RAM above 2 GB, the 	size of your swap should be equal to the amount of physical RAM above 2 	GB. The size of your swap should never less than 32 MB.       "
[07:28] <Arelis_> "Using this basic formula, a system with 2 GB of physical RAM would 	have 4 GB of swap, while one with 3 GB of physical RAM would have 5 GB 	of swap.       "
[07:29] <Ndshacker> That is a lie
[07:29] <Ndshacker> suck a horrid lie
[07:29] <Ndshacker> *such
[07:29] <fieldse> @sugi yes, directe for linux.  doesn't matter... if you can boot up, you can recover your file, then reformat/reinstall. Best solution unless you have a hard drive full of important info that you have to save
[07:29] <Arelis_> Ndshacker: Would having a too big swap partition hurt?
[07:29] <Ndshacker> That is a flawed formula, if I have 8 GB of ram, I sure as hell dont need 10 Gb of swap
[07:29] <Ndshacker> no
[07:30] <Ndshacker> but 3 GB of extra swap is just stupid :\
[07:30] <Arelis_> Okay, i'll just keep it 4GB then. But after the swap partition, what else do i need to add?
[07:30] <fieldse> @sugi: You could try to recover system with antivirus, but ... why go through the effort?
[07:30] <Ndshacker> A Ext3 Filesystem mounted at /
[07:30] <quibbler> zapz: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574092
[07:30] <Arelis_> What about /boot?
[07:30] <Ndshacker> that will be the install partition
[07:30] <Ndshacker> no need for anything else
[07:30] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, the "double RAM" rule is from the time before people got too impatient to actually use swap. these days if you're using swap, get more RAM. As for other partitions, just a single / will do. More partitions than that is for servers, not laptops.
[07:31] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: thanks for the link, i now know how to change permissions for groups/owners...but I still dont know the difference between them
[07:31] <fieldse> @sugi It worked enough to save my windows machine data
[07:31] <zapz> thanks
[07:31] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: how do i check the current user/group list?
[07:31] <ninsei> Does anyone else here run SLI in Ubuntu?
[07:31] <sprinkmeier> ohletmeinnowjesu, run "id"
[07:32] <Ndshacker> system > administration >users and groups
[07:32] <Arelis_> I want to create a /home partition. What size should / be?
[07:32] <sugi> fieldse: downloading it right now. hahha i didn't know there was a wget for windws base OS.  i Would love that feature in my dos command prompt
[07:32] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Thanks
[07:32] <Ndshacker> wget is an extra download :)
[07:32] <pseudomorph> ok, scrollback doesn't seem to be working so sorry if someone answered this. Does anyone have an idea why I cannot see my primary hdd in the ubuntu partition tool when installing?
[07:32] <zapz> guys how about this I cant set my Visual effects to normal.... "it said that Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[07:32] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, I wouldn't. Just make / take up all the space. add /boot if the installer thinks you should (100M should be plenty)
[07:33] <lstarnes> zapz: did you remove compiz?
[07:33] <zapz> yup
[07:33] <hateball> Arelis_: 10GB should be well enough for /, the rest for /home
[07:33] <Ndshacker> O.O
[07:33] <lstarnes> zapz: you will need to reinstall compiz for that to work
[07:33] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse:  darn, my bios can not see the hard drive all together.  this will cause some problems
[07:33] <bn43> zapz: what graphics card do you have?
[07:33] <Ndshacker> yeah :s
[07:33] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: 10GB.. I don't think that would be enough for all the applications
[07:34] <Ndshacker> hell no
[07:34] <fieldse> Hey! @ Everyone re: Swapfile partition not really necessary unless you're using hibernate / sleep, right? It seems a waste of a primary partition. Is there an alternative?
[07:34] <zapz> okay.... Im using intel.. blah graphics card
[07:34] <Ndshacker> Fieldse: go with 1 gb
[07:34] <Ndshacker> unless you have 4 gb or greater
[07:34] <sugi> fieldse: the swap partition??/
[07:34] <fieldse> lol @zapz
[07:34] <Ndshacker> I personaly never hit swap, but my firefox is tweaked to the max :)
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> fieldse,  You could make a swap file if you want.. but a partition is more effficient
[07:35] <sugi> fieldse: you think it's a waste of hard drive space if your not using a sleep funcation?  is this what oyu are asking?
[07:35] <zapz> whhhaaaa...
[07:35] <zapz> at least I booted into my ubuntu
[07:35] <doleyb> fieldse: swap partition is not for suspending during power-off.  It is so a program which runs out of RAM can keep going.
[07:35] <ohletmeinnowjesu> so how do i chmod a certain file to be available to only a certain type of users?
[07:35] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Hes asking for alternatives,
[07:35] <bn43> Ndshacker: how have you tweaked ur firefox?  I sometimes have firefox using 300mb ram at a time!
[07:35] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: So a /home partition would cause problems?
[07:36] <Ndshacker> bn43: lol
[07:36] <sugi> Ndshacker: ahhhh i see.
[07:36] <Ndshacker> bn43: mine uses 65 mb and runs faster than most :)
[07:36] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu you may mean chown
[07:36] <fieldse> @sugi, dr_willis, ndshacker - I mean, I have 3 partitions already on my HD, so if I didn't have to use a partition for swapfile, it would be useful to me to have a 4th partition free
[07:36] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, my / is 100G and it's half full, I do a lot of stuffing around, storing backups etc. I have a user junk partition (730G). partitioning before knowing exactly how big each partition should be  will jsut ause problems later.
[07:36] <bn43> Ndshacker: how??
[07:36] <Ndshacker> Theres a guide
[07:36] <fieldse> @doleyb I was reading that it was necessary for sleep function though.. is this incorrect?
[07:36] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Yes, but i don't have any good tools for backupping
[07:36] <zapz> so in installing compiz ..... I should type = Apt-get install Compiz compiz-core .... ayt?
[07:36] <bn43> give!
[07:37] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse:  I may take a break on this, as I might be more willing to tweak and fix this issue tomorrow hahahhaha. but i am still downloading this unix base recover software and going to see if i can at least get my computer to see my hard drive.
[07:37] <Ndshacker> Search google for "Speed up firefox, ABout:config"
[07:37] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: A /home partition seems convenient to me. However, i want to keep installing applications
[07:37] <n2diy> ohletmeinnowjesu: make the file available to the "group,
[07:37] <fieldse> @sugi lol ... ah, yeah good luck
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> zapz,  linux is case SeNeSeTiVe :) be sure to get the case CorrEct
[07:37] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, tar and an external drive is all you need. actually, backuppc is _fantastic_, I'l look into it.
[07:37] <Ndshacker> Sugi: seey a man
[07:37] <lstarnes> zapz: no, sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:37] <Ndshacker> I use keep
[07:37] <fieldse> @sugi : It will work, no worries
[07:38] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse: im not done yet. but i just letting you know i may throw the tower in soon (real soon) hahhahaha
[07:38] <zapz> okay
[07:38] <fieldse> lol
[07:38] <Ndshacker> hahaha
[07:38] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Oh, yeah, true, i DO have the tools. An external drive. I didn't use it to backup my mac, because time machine wipes the filesystem off the external drive and it's loaded full with stuff i may not delete.
[07:38] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: user@host:/home/user$ sudo chown tux:penguins foobar
[07:38] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: thanks :)
[07:38] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, as I said, you can add a home partition, but if you guess wrong on how big it should be then you're either wasting disk-space or limiting what you can in stall or both. I don;t bother with a seperate /home these days.
[07:38] <Ndshacker> skype uses more than firefox O.O
[07:38] <Nalf> http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30  -- my wireless usb adapter... any ideas on how to fix
[07:38] <zapz> installing... :D thanks to the community
[07:39] <Ndshacker> how can I disable Nautilus? <---- is it necesary?
[07:39] <Reidy> So, my download speeds have yet to improve. I've tried repository servers from my own state, and now I'm on some random one. I need any help I can get. My speeds are downloading at an average of 25-30kb/s..
[07:39] <n2diy> sprinkmeier: how do you backup your stuff without /home?
[07:39] <Ndshacker> ouch
[07:39] <Reidy> My internet is not the problem, it is just fine...
[07:39] <lstarnes> Ndshacker: if you disable nautilus and you use gnome, you will not be able to browse files or have a desktop background
[07:39] <fieldse> @ndshacker, sugi - lol at "throw in the tower"... I think that's a new spin on the old phrase, but highly appropriate
[07:39] <Ndshacker> Istarnes: Its worth 50 b :p
[07:39] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Okay. Now i have these partitions: /dev/sda1 (EFI (Mac boot partition)), /dev/sda2 (HFS+ (Mac partition)), /dev/sda3 (SWAP), /dev/sda4 (Ext3 (/)). Is this okay? And if i continue, will this overwrite my mac's MBR?
[07:39] <Ndshacker> *mb
[07:40] <Ndshacker> It might
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> macs have a mbr?
[07:40] <Ndshacker> but I doubt it
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> i thought the efi stuff dident work that way
[07:40] <lstarnes> Ndshacker: gnome is rather notorious for being somewhat bloated (and your font confuses lowercase L with uppercase i)
[07:40] <Ndshacker> Yeah :s
[07:40] <sugi> fieldse: im glad you got that pun, i thought it was a little corn :p
[07:40] <Ndshacker> it ses more than firefox ;(
[07:41] <fieldse> sugi lol.... wasn't sure if it was a japanification or an intention pun, but my hat's off to you
[07:41] <pseudomorph> Sorry if someone answered this. Does anyone have an idea why I cannot see my primary hdd in the 8.10 partition tool when installing? The drive boots fine and shows up in 7.04 and parted magic
[07:42] <rideback> hello again  i really need help my gcc isnt working
[07:42] <lstarnes> rideback: in what way is it not working?
[07:42] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, I've never played with a max, you're on your own :-)
[07:42] <rideback> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:42] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: It seems i skipped a very important step. I need to reboot for that. Bye. (Maybe i'll be back for more support)
[07:43] <lstarnes> rideback: install build-essential
[07:43] <rideback> i'll try
[07:43] <sprinkmeier> n2diy, I use backuppc to do all my backups and occasionally copy the tarballs to an external drive
[07:43] <Ndshacker> I use AptonCd once a week
[07:43] <Ndshacker> so that I can reinstall at any time
[07:44] <n2diy> sprinkmeier: have you ueed sbackup?
[07:45] <Reid1> Anyone know how to fix my download speeds?
[07:45] <Ndshacker> you can tweak some files
[07:45] <Ndshacker> but I dont know if You should do that :)
[07:46] <sprinkmeier> n2diy, no. link? gotta go run an errand, back in a while
[07:46] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: ok, well heres my situation whenever I try to share a folder on my ntfs partition using rightclick-share I get this : http://pastebin.com/m6112c63b . Im wondering if
[07:46] <ohletmeinnowjesu> 1. I need to sudo edit the smb.conf file to allow general access (like it suggests) or
[07:46] <ohletmeinnowjesu> 2. "Chown" the directory to my account from root and then try re-sharing it again
[07:46] <koshari> Ndshacker partimage and rsync are prolly a little more practical than aptoncd, aptoncd only backs up deb packages,
[07:47] <Ndshacker> :s
[07:47] <Ndshacker> Probably, but I only need my Deb files
[07:47] <ninsei> anybody know anything about running SLI video cards in Linux?
[07:47] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu depends on the dir/file what are the current permissians,
[07:47] <Ndshacker> Everything else is stored on Flash Drives, or External Harddrives
[07:49] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: rwx for root & root
[07:49] <Ndshacker> sudo su
[07:49] <zapz> guys another....stupid question of mine, how do I start the ubuntu, when I am in terminal .... STARTX wont start the ubuntu
[07:49] <Ndshacker> just go up and hit Resume :)
[07:49] <ohletmeinnowjesu> zapz: start xwin ?
[07:50] <lstarnes> zapz: you already have ubuntu started, just not the desktop environment.  Try running sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:50] <wyatt-ch> what do you mean start ubuntu?zapz
[07:50] <zapz> start ubuntu.... I hit the ctrl+alt+f7 now I want to go back
[07:51] <lstarnes> zapz: try ctrl+alt+f1
[07:51] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu what about groups
[07:51] <zapz> nothing happens.... ctrl+alt+f1
[07:51] <jim_p> hi people
[07:51] <bn43> zapz: try ctrl+alt+f7
[07:51] <zapz> still in terminal mode ..... after ctrl+alt+f1
[07:52] <zapz> thats it!
[07:52] <koshari> Ndshacker if you dont want to muck round with optical dics you can make a personal repo.
[07:53] <sugi> Ndshacker: are you still on within this channel?
[07:53] <Ndshacker> yes
[07:54] <Ndshacker> Personal repo?
[07:54] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: ?
[07:54] <jim_p> today i thought i can act brave and install atis drivers from the .run file they provide. bad idea. when i move my windows or scroll, i get ripples and this is some error in dmesg >>    http://pastebin.com/d61571ebf   any ideas are welcome
[07:54] <Ndshacker> how do I do that?
[07:54] <sugi> Ndshacker: i think i have the most recent back of that file
[07:54] <Ndshacker> great!
[07:55] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: drwxrwxrwx 1 root root       0 2008-06-02 13:44 uoastuff
[07:55] <Ndshacker> !root
[07:55] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: thats what I get when I ls the parent directory of the folder I wanna samba-share
[07:55] <sugi> Ndshacker: i think i am ready to reformat. or double check everything.
[07:56] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: think that means owner = root, group = root & their rw perm is rwx
[07:56] <gert_> Hello
[07:57] <Ndshacker> have fun
[07:57] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu you seem to have read write and exe permissians for root, groups and others so i cant se it being a permissians issue,
[07:58] <Ndshacker> i have to reboot soon
[07:58] <n2diy> I have a Seagate 80m hdd that came out of an HP Pavillion 734n, and it is labeled as an OEM drive. I can't get it to play with Ubuntu, it keeps crashing the installer.I like to low level format it, but the ms-dos debug commands I'm used to using, don't work in gdb, ideas?
[07:59] <SomePriest> I can click and drag a window very fast about the screen, and the redraw rate is very high.  But when I scroll a fairly small webpage in firefox (using the mousewheel for instance), the scroll speed is bloody awful and a bit chuggy.  What can cause this?
[07:59] <SomePriest> Is FF for Linux just nasty slow?
[07:59] <extuser> n2diy: can you boot up the livecd?  the ubuntu livecd has gparted on it.
[07:59] <koshari> SomePries not here
[07:59] <Ndshacker> FF on linux can be slow
[07:59] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: right but (assuming i interpreted the ls-l o/p right that is) the only people that have rwx authorizations are 1. the owner = root 2.People in the group = root....im trying to share the folder while logged in a different account
[07:59] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu:  sudo chown root:user$ foobar
[07:59] <Ndshacker> Luckily we are getting Google Chrome soon
[08:00] <Ndshacker> So just suck it up for a bit :)
[08:00] <rideback> dependeci is driving me crazy !!
[08:00] <mantis_> Hi guys. I'm trying to set up a fileserver using samba. It's just for my home network. I'd like clients to _not_ be asked for passwords. So far, clients can see the server, but the server continues to ask for passwords.
[08:00] <n2diy> extuser: tried that, no luck.
[08:00] <mantis_> And idea how I can drop the password requirement ?
[08:00] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, This is on a freshly installed Ubuntu box...  But its NASTY, makes me want to install Windows again.
[08:00] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: whats that do?
[08:00] <rideback> i'm installing build-essential but it has alot of dependeci
[08:00] <JackPhil> can i put username/password into a openvpn client  config file
[08:00] <extuser> n2diy: no luck what? won't boot the livecd?
[08:00] <Ndshacker> O.O that bad?
[08:00] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: change all ownership to my login?
[08:00] <JackPhil> so i can auto login the remote server
[08:00] <rideback> what can i do?
[08:00] <Ndshacker> check yoour internet speed?
[08:01] <SomePriest> JackPhil, Just cache the passphrase at client-side.
[08:01] <n2diy> rideback: install with synaptic.
[08:01] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, Me?
[08:01] <Ndshacker> yes you
[08:01] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu others has read write exe permissans as well as group and owner, others is everyone else.
[08:01] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, A solid 6 Mbps
[08:02] <JackPhil> SomePriest, could you tell me how to do?
[08:02] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu effectively its been cmod 777ed
[08:02] <Ndshacker> wow
[08:02] <rideback> n2diy how?
[08:02] <n2diy> extuser: tried that, no luck, with gparted.
[08:02] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, But I'm talking about scrolling of pages that are downloaded.
[08:02] <koshari> chmod
[08:02] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: then why cant I share it?
[08:02] <n2diy> rideback: are you in X, or at a command line?
[08:02] <Ndshacker> I would say uninstall and reinstall firefox
[08:02] <rideback> the problem is their in synaptic
[08:02] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: http://pastebin.com/m63424fe4
[08:02] <rideback> i've try both
[08:02] <Ndshacker> But im 99% sure you cant in Linux
[08:03] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, Depends what the client machine is running.  If its a Windows box, for example, you can use pageant (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html).
[08:03] <drecon> anyone any idea why I get a failed to mount error plugging in my usb?
[08:03] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: foobar is the file root: is group  user% is th3 user you want to have use the file
[08:03] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, I'm sure there is a *nix equiv, never had the pleasure though.
[08:03] <n2diy> rideback: did you try apt-get?
[08:03] <rideback> yes
[08:03] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: do chown --help and read
[08:03] <extuser> n2diy: does gparted complain? erorr message? or does it act like it's formatting without issues.
[08:03] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, Can't what in Linux?
[08:04] <Ndshacker> Uninstall  Firfox
[08:04] <SomePriest> Also, I note that DVD's are very grainy in VLC, but VLC plays DivX files with great clarity.
[08:04] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: do chown --help and read  if you want file & directories use chown -hR
[08:05] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu i suspect it may be a ntfs permissians thing, can you share a parent and symlink the folder from there?
[08:05] <n2diy> extuser: I don't remember, let give it a try now. Hardy, Dapper, and I, have been arguing with this drive for two days now.
[08:06] <SomePriest> Who was it that said Linux is getting Chrome soon?  I hope they're not holding their breath  :)
[08:06] <bn43> SomePriest: have u installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[08:06] <extuser> n2diy: keep in mind that when you run gparted you can "expand" the details section of the dialog that shows when it's working. if you expand it enough you'll get the actual command line tools and parameters (and maybe errors too?)
[08:06] <SomePriest> bn43, Why?
[08:07] <bn43> SomePriest: installs all necessary codecs for media play
[08:07] <bn43> among other things
[08:07] <SomePriest> bn43, I can play DVDs, they just look grainy and slightly oversaturated.  DivX files look wonderful though.
[08:07] <rideback> n2diy
[08:08] <rideback> can i post the return of command apt-get
[08:08] <Ndshacker> Don't worry, Im back :)
[08:08] <n2diy> extuser: gparted shows the drive as 74.5g, with 1.3g in use.
[08:08] <n2diy> rideback: use pastebin
[08:08] <n2diy> ! pastebin | rideback
[08:09] <extuser> n2diy: so what's the issue, you want to do a low level format of the entire drive and you can't. i lost perspective as to what the original issue is. soory.
[08:09] <fieldse> neat
[08:10] <jim_p> today i thought i can act brave and install atis drivers from the .run file they provide. bad idea. when i move my windows or scroll, i get ripples and this is some error in dmesg >>    http://pastebin.com/d61571ebf   any ideas are welcome
[08:10] <n2diy> extuser: I can't install Ubuntu on the drive, it crashes the installer. And I'm suspect of the 1.3 gig that is in use, what is using it?
[08:11] <SomePriest> jim_p, I'm spent the last two hours playing with ubuntu's fglrx, ati's binary from their site, ati's binary from the 3rd party installer, and I think the performance of them all is bloody terrible.
[08:11] <tavish> ia ma having problem with my sound, there are no devices in preferences->sound. but asoundconf list gives my sound card intel. and alsactl names gives nothing
[08:12] <jim_p> SomePriest, well i agree with it, but i cant have radeon on my 3850
[08:12] <jim_p> :(
[08:12] <extuser> n2diy: shouldn't matter. if the hdd is functioning ok, and gparted can access it, it should be able to wipe all partitions and recreate them.
[08:12] <hypernewbie> Hi guys, I'm back with KDE 3 and all my problems solved!
[08:12] <wolter> hey hypernewbie, you were having problems with kde4?
[08:12] <hypernewbie> Can anyone help me get my wg111v2 wireless dongle working?
[08:12] <extuser> n2diy: i have had isues with hard rives that are not getting adequate power.  but that is usually with usb2ide powered hard drives and usually only with hdd's >200GB
[08:13] <hypernewbie> wolter: yeh, my problem WAS kde4 ;)
[08:13] <wolter> hypernewbie, heh, why? why is kde3 better? (iam a gnome user)
[08:13] <hypernewbie> (yes for wg111v2 i tried the ndiswrapper solution
[08:13] <hypernewbie> wolter: i dont want start KDE4 bashing, so its personal preference, and not wanting KDE Vista Ultimate
[08:14] <jim_p> SomePriest, what gpu are you on?
[08:15] <wiggles> hi
[08:15] <wolter> hypernewbie, pm
[08:15] <n2diy> extuser: ok, I'm on a desktop, so power shouldn't be an issue. In gparted, I just selected the partition, and deleted it, but, gparted isn't responding.
[08:15] <wiggles> anyone got a oneliner for those who have apache installed, and wanna code php/mqsql ?
[08:15] <SomePriest> jim_p, x850 xt
[08:15] <jim_p> SomePriest, you can use the radeon driver and still have 3d i think, dont complain :P
[08:16] <SomePriest> jim_p, Its the slow 2D that I'm worried about  :)
[08:16] <jim_p> SomePriest, slow in 2d? as in...?
[08:16] <extuser> n2diy: doesn't sound good. i'd leave it for a while.... maybe it's busy. but if it is actually locked up, then maybe there's a driver issue, or maybe the hdd itself is having errors
[08:16] <SomePriest> jim_p, Or maybe what I'm seeing is as good is can be provided under Linux.  Not sure.  I seem to recall Fedora was much fater.
[08:17] <SomePriest> jim_p, As in slow redrawing of text when windows are moved or scrolled.
[08:17] <CosmiChaos> Has anybody a conclusion on how to block these russian porn-spammers that write me everyday from 3 new numbers in pidgin???
[08:17] <n2diy> extuser: ok, It wiped the partition, now I'm going to create an ext3 partition.
[08:17] <extuser> n2diy: i'd delete all partitions and all logical volumes.
[08:17] <jim_p> SomePriest, i have that scrolling problem in ff too
[08:18] <SomePriest> jim_p, and DVDs look terrible, but that must be the DVD decoders fault I suppose.
[08:18] <extuser> n2diy: is ALL partitions and logical volumes deleted (the entire hdd unallocated)?
[08:18] <jim_p> SomePriest, dunno :(
[08:18] <n2diy> extuser: Yes, only on partition exsisted, and now I partitioned as ext3
[08:18] <n2diy> on/one
[08:19] <tavish> hi, there are no devices in preferences->sound. but 'asoundconf list' gives my sound card intel. and 'alsactl names' gives nothing.
[08:20] <Ascavasaion> How do I play MP3s on smb/computername/share/ on a local machine?  When I queue remote MP3s via Konqueror smb://etc/etc/ it plays the first song and then stops.
[08:20] <SomePriest> Is there an easy way to drop to run level 3, then back to 5 (or otherwise restarting X) when changes have been made?  `init` doesn't seem to exist in Ubunutu?
[08:20] <extuser> n2diy: ok.  if i remember correct, you want to install ubuntu onto it?  if so, the installer should be able to continue.
[08:21] <pseudomorph> Does anyone have an idea why I cannot see my primary hdd in gparted in 8.10 when installing (desktop, alt and mint)? The drive boots fine and shows up in 7.04 and parted magic live cds.
[08:21] <druggz> i installed php5-mysql
[08:22] <n2diy> extuser: yes. I've applied the changes, and it has deleted the partition, and is now finished creating the new one. And again, 1.3g is listed as in use, what the heck is using 1.3g, on a freshly partitioned drive?
[08:22] <druggz> i ran apt-get install php5-mysql mysql-client php5
[08:22] <druggz> and my php files are not being interpreted
[08:23] <extuser> n2diy: maybe your bios or mobo doesn't support the entire 80GB? just an idea.
[08:23] <shirish> druggz did you see the php conf files
[08:23] <joetheodd> Are the broadcom wifi drivers supported on 64bit or should I use 32bit?
[08:23] <n2diy> extuser: Bios sees it as an 80g drive. I suspect I have a hidden OEM partition, that is why I want to low level format the drive.
[08:23] <shirish> durggz may be you have to uncoment the line which includes mysql lines
[08:24] <SomePriest> Anyone else notice that with ATI's binary drivers, VLC will play movies (DVD or DivX), but the video will be black, and only the audio is correct?
[08:24] <n2diy> extuser: Got an idea, I think I'll manually config the drive in bios, rather than using auto, maybe that will work?
[08:25] <SomePriest> ...and you can correct that using X11 Video Output, but then it drops frames like crazy  :)
[08:26] <sprinkmeier> joetheodd, try the live CDs?
[08:26] <SomePriest> Maybe the message is, "Don't buy ATI"  :)
[08:26] <joetheodd> sprinkmeier, internet's slow, and i'm out of blanks.
[08:27] <zapz> ATI sucksss..
[08:28] <SomePriest> zapz, Well, on benchmarks they do very well.  Its only in the Linux world that they suck  :)
[08:28] <SomePriest> To be fair
[08:28] <zapz> but still
[08:29] <extuser> n2diy: not sure how used to bios setting you are, but just in case you aren't a bios pro, make sure you write down all the current setting exactly. it might save you a huge headache later.
[08:30] <extuser> n2diy: an easy way to test for the bios theory would be to install it onto another desktop computer and boot up the livecd on that computer and see if has the same issues.
[08:32] <extuser> n2diy: good luck with your hdd, i have to go. cheers.
[08:33] <n2diy> extuser: fine business, this isn' mission critical stuff, I salvaged the HP box, and after no luck getting that to work, pulled the drive, and I'm using it in my test box. It has the same issues, regardless of which box it is in..73
[08:34] <adante> hi
[08:34] <PerJ> Anyone with Xserver problems after upgrading from Intrepid to Jaunty ?
[08:34] <adante> when i pull the cable out of my computer it loses ip and doesn't restore it when i plug it back in
[08:34] <adante> how can i make it so it will automatically try to reacquire an ip?
[08:35] <qdb> hello. i have tried to install ubuntu 8.04 dvd
[08:35] <qdb> it said
[08:35] <sprinkmeier> adante, it sometimes takes a while, how long do you wait ?
[08:35] <quibbler> PerJ: question regarding Jaunty should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[08:35] <adante> sprinkmeier: it doesn't restore after about 20 hours
[08:35] <qdb> only sda(0,0,0), none partitions of it
[08:35] <PerJ> quibbler: ok, thank you
[08:35] <adante> sprinkmeier: only time i have gotten it up is when i re-run dhclient from the computer
[08:36] <SOIER> hi there, can anybody tell where the packages  locates after apt-get installation
[08:36] <qdb> when i have entered it, also no inner partitions, said "if you continue, we will write partition table! you are going to use the whole disk!"
[08:36] <sprinkmeier> adante, ok... that shouldbe enough time :-) HAL should be telling the system that the eth carrier is back up and should re-start DHCP. what does ethtool say before/during/after unplug?
[08:36] <lstarnes> SOIER: dpkg -L packagename
[08:36] <qdb> though sda really has soamething like sda1, sda2, sda5, sda6
[08:37] <B3z3rk3r> sda0 normally
[08:37] <sprinkmeier> qdb, sounds like it's offering to wipe all those partitons for you
[08:37] <Guest773> hello
[08:37] <SOIER> lstarnes: I was trying to install some stuff using apt-get but it's broked because of full disk. Can I delete all this stuff uploaded on my pc. Is it still here on my disk ???
[08:38] <Guest773> I am having a strange problem. all the flash movies/youtube etc are having sound but any player like rythembox or vlc is not having sound
[08:38] <lstarnes> SOIER: how big is your disk?
[08:38] <Ascavasaion> Nevermind... turns out I had to change the Windows sharename to the remote machine's IP in the /etc/fstab.  It used to work, but ja... thrill.
[08:38] <msh> ﻿I am having a strange problem. all the flash movies/youtube etc are having sound but any player like rythembox or vlc is not having sound
[08:38] <SOIER> 7GB :)
[08:38] <sprinkmeier> msh, look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:38] <quibbler> qdb: what had you installed on sda0?
[08:38] <lstarnes> SOIER: you should most likely be using a bigger disk
[08:39] <qdb> sda0? i mean sda0 saying sda1 , i think
[08:39] <qdb> windows
[08:39] <SOIER> lstarnes: now the question is : how to find this packages i was downloading before and remove ???
[08:39] <quibbler> qdb: and do you want to keep it?
[08:39] <qdb> yes
[08:39] <qdb> there are also ext3 partition
[08:39] <qdb> and swap
[08:39] <qdb> mandriva was there
[08:39] <msh> sprink: what to look there?
[08:39] <lstarnes> SOIER: dpkg -l can list all installed packages
[08:39] <ubd> can this device run ubuntu : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
[08:40] <qdb> but the installer like has not seen them
[08:40] <quibbler> qdb: and do you do you have only the one drive?
[08:40] <sprinkmeier> msh, that;s where downloaded .deb's love before they;re installed.
[08:40] <zapz> guys who among you, uses Wireshark? I cant choose an interface...
[08:40] <qdb> yes
[08:40] <Dreamglider> SOIER, you can scroll the terminal commands by using the up/down key
[08:40] <sprinkmeier> s/love/live/ :-)
[08:40] <qdb> it is ot my computer
[08:40] <qdb> not
[08:40] <lstarnes> zapz: you may need to run it as root
[08:40] <SOIER> lstarnes: as I said it has downloaded but not installed. As i understand it's locating on my pc, somewhere on tmp but not installed
[08:41] <qdb> i am not there now
[08:41] <quibbler> qdb: do you wish to install ubuntu in place of mandiva
[08:41] <qdb> yes
[08:41] <zapz> Istarnes How? can I run it as root..... ?
[08:41] <sprinkmeier> SOIER,  look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ (ok, looks liek I sent that to the wrong person last time)
[08:41] <SOIER> Dreamglider: for what ???
[08:41] <zapz> so I have to go to terminal ayt?  lstarnes
[08:41] <lstarnes> zapz: in a terminal, try this: gksudo wireshark
[08:42] <qdb> one reason it was hard to make internet connection with that mandriva
[08:42] <lstarnes> zapz: there may be an option in the applications > internet menu
[08:42] <adante> sprinkmeier: hmm hangon a mo.. this computer is remote i need to ring someone locally to go and run dhclient for me again :]
[08:42] <qdb> i made once in my computer but now have forgotten how to make it
[08:42] <Dreamglider> SOIER, once you find the package you installed, use  remove instead of install
[08:42] <sprinkmeier> adante, cron-job it :-)
[08:42] <zapz> wow THANKS!
[08:42] <qdb> 2008.0
[08:42] <Malacius> where i can download Avant-Window-Navigator
[08:43] <quibbler> qdb: then when you come to the partition part of the install choose manual and use the partitions from mandiva for the install
[08:43] <adante> sprinkmeier: hah good idea
[08:43] <qdb> i have gone to manual
[08:43] <B3z3rk3r> Malacius, you can get it from the repos
[08:43] <qdb> but it does not show partitions!
[08:43] <qdb> only the sda
[08:43] <rayzz> I am looking for software for a nav-cam 2007 gps
[08:43] <qdb> disk is ide, seagate
[08:44] <sridhar> would like to write plugins
[08:44] <sridhar> how do i start
[08:44] <SOIER> sprinkmeier: can I remove all that deb stuff from that location ??? )) Is it help to enlarge my free disk space ???
[08:44] <sridhar> any good tutorials
[08:44] <lstarnes> sridhar: plugins for what?
[08:44] <qdb> may be i should try ubuntu 8.10 cd
[08:44] <Dreamglider> sridhar, plugins for what ?
[08:44] <sridhar> for mozilla
[08:45] <qdb> i have also that
[08:45] <sridhar> i am a beginner
[08:45] <sridhar> so i just want to learn
[08:45] <sprinkmeier> SOIER, it's like a cache. if you want to re-install or put the deb;s on another machine then keeping them may be a good idea. otherwise fire at will!
[08:45] <sridhar> dont know where to start from
[08:45] <qdb> but maybe no difference in installers of them
[08:45] <quibbler> qdb: is the dvd a live dvd
[08:45] <Dreamglider> sridhar, http://developer.apple.com/documentation/InternetWeb/Conceptual/WebKit_PluginProgTopic/WebKitPluginTopics.html
[08:45] <qdb> there is also live
[08:45] <qdb> also text
[08:45] <qdb> i have tried to install from live
[08:46] <qdb> also same situation
[08:46] <SOIER> sprinkmeier: ok ! tnx. So It's like windows install folder )) and it can be located on another pc ???
[08:46] <sridhar> thnx dreamglider checking it out
[08:46] <doktorlinux> buongiorno
[08:46] <sprinkmeier> SOIER, you can network-mount it wherever you like, just make sure it's available otherwise apt won't work.
[08:46] <zapz> lstarnes: okay I run the wireshark into root, and start capturing packets.... now my problem is I cant catch any packets...
[08:47] <lstarnes> zapz: which onterface did you try capturing?
[08:47] <zapz> lstarnes: packets from lan..
[08:47] <lstarnes> *interface
[08:47] <juanito> how can i open .7z files?
[08:47] <zapz> my wireless card
[08:47] <doktorlinux> canale lingua italiana?
[08:47] <juanito> unrar doesn't open them
[08:47] <lstarnes> zapz: what was the name of it?
[08:47] <sprinkmeier> juanito, with 7zip
[08:47] <Dreamglider> !it
[08:47] <qdb> juanito in synaptic search 7z
[08:47] <zapz> wlan0
[08:47] <SOIER> sprinkmeier: so apt-ger checks this folder first and then decide dowload or not some soft ???
[08:48] <juanito> ok i will try
[08:48] <zapz> lstarnes: wlan0 is the name
[08:48] <sprinkmeier> SOIER, yes
[08:48] <juanito> thanks a ton
[08:48] <Sertse> hi, I just need a minimal install
[08:48] <Sertse> what next to get sound up and running?
[08:49] <lstarnes> zapz: try using "any"
[08:49] <elad`> Is there some built-in keyboard shortcut for getting a terminal?
[08:49] <zapz> okay try..
[08:49] <qdb> i quit from this channel
[08:49] <quibbler> qdb: try this : start the computer up with the live  cd or dvd and press F6 to edit the start line then get rid of quiet splash and add "all_generic_ide" (without the quotes) and boot further and see if that helps with the manual install you should see the other partitions
[08:49] <sprinkmeier> elad`, ALT-F2, xterm ENTER
[08:50] <elad`> What about gnome-terminal?
[08:50] <SOIER> OK TNX A LOT  !!!
[08:50] <sprinkmeier> elad`, (don't know the name of that, gterminal?) I usually assign the windows key to a terminal, it's not like it has any other use :-)
[08:51] <PokerFacePenguin> elad`unless you use compiz.. :)
[08:51] <Dreamglider> elad`: System > Preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[08:51] <sprinkmeier> elad`, s/xterm/gnome-terminal/
[08:51] <disappearedng_> when I plugin my usb it doesn't work anymore any ideas on how I could fix this?
[08:52] <elad`> Never mind, I used System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts. Luckily for me, it was there. But what if I had wanted any other program?
[08:52] <elad`> Dreamglider :)
[08:52] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, define 'does not work'. USB does not auto-mount?
[08:53] <zapz> lstarnes seems to be capturing local packets not from lan
[08:53] <disappearedng_> sprinkmeier: when I plugin my usb nothing pops up
[08:53] <disappearedng_> it can't mount
[08:53] <Dreamglider> elad`, i dont know how to add anything to the list, i would like to know tho.
[08:53] <disappearedng_> and then when I start my machine it says something wrong with hal and I have to manually startx
[08:54] <lstarnes> zapz: try checking dmesg for anything related to wlan0
[08:54] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, that something that it says is probably relevant. pastebin it?
[08:54] <disappearedng_> sprinkmeier: how do I find that ?
[08:54] <Sertse> ?
[08:54] <quibbler> elad`: you could use the configuration editor
[08:54] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, check in /var/log/messages
[08:54] <bobbie4_> .
[08:55] <elad`> The what?
[08:55] <elad`> Surely there are ways to create keyboard shortcuts, that would work under GNOME, without the built-in, very weak, tool.
[08:56] <elad`> (Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts, that is. If there's another tool, I'd like to know.)
[08:56] <quibbler> elad`: you could use the configuration editor run gcong-editor in terminal go to /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_1 and define what you want
[08:58] <sybux> hi all,
[08:58] <quibbler> elad`: look around in the editor ..you can change a lot of things, not just keyboard shortcuts.
[08:58] <sybux> I've got a little issue with my Dell E5500. My screen resolution is fixed to 1024x768 and I can't change it even if I know that the card can do it. Any idea ?
[08:59] <disappearedng_> http://pastie.org/416717 sprinkmeier
[09:00] <disappearedng_> do you see anything sprinkmeier?
[09:01] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, did a quick search, can't find "hal"
[09:01] <disappearedng_> hm...
[09:01] <disappearedng_> then wait
[09:03] <disappearedng_> ok
[09:03] <disappearedng_> like right now I plug in my usb
[09:03] <disappearedng_> Nothing shows up
[09:03] <disappearedng_> I can't access it
[09:03] <FloodBot1> disappearedng_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <disappearedng_> but the icon is there
[09:04] <duke_> anybody have a clue how to get adobe flashplayer work under konqueror?
[09:04] <falkinski> disappearedng_: Can you get into the usb stick or do you get an error msg?
[09:04] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, right-click the icon, is there a "mount" option?
[09:05] <disappearedng_> yeah I press mount and then nothing happened
[09:06] <falkinski> disappearedng_: type sudo fdisk -l
[09:07] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, any mention of the USB device in /var/log/messages? what does "lsusb" say?
[09:07] <falkinski> disappearedng_: Do you see your device there?
[09:07] <jacoblyles> My processors are running hot with nothing more than Firefox running. Both cores are clocked well over 50%. Seems to be slowing the system down.
[09:08] <jacoblyles> Anyone else have this issue?
[09:08] <disappearedng_> sudo fdisk -l http://pastie.org/416721
[09:08] <sprinkmeier> jacoblyles, badly written flash apps?
[09:08] <disappearedng_> nothing
[09:09] <jacoblyles> I guess it could have been one of the websites
[09:09] <disappearedng_> http://pastie.org/416722 lsusb
[09:09] <jacoblyles> but system monitor didn't have any process listed as eating up CPU
[09:09] <sprinkmeier> I assume sdb is the USB device (i.e. it goes away when you remove it?)
[09:10] <jacoblyles> All I have is gmail and a static page open
[09:11] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, solving the problem from the wrong end.... you waid boot-up mentions a HAL error? HAL = hardware abstraction layer = magic glue that auto-mounts stuff. Fix HAL and the mounting should work again. Can you get the HAL error from /var/log/messages and pastebin it?
[09:12] <sim_kharkov> hi)
[09:12] <disappearedng_> sprinkmeier: I did cat /var/log/messages | grep "hal"  and nothing showed up
[09:13] <sprinkmeier> disappearedng_, but you're sure boot shows a HAL error? can you reboot and try to copy it handraulically (if required, CNTRL-S/CNRTL-Q pauses/resumes boot sequence)
[09:14] <fieldse> elad` seems there's not much for keyboard shortcuts in GNOME but through configuration editor. There may be an application to do this but I haven't found it yet. Weak, eh?  Sounds like someone needs to write an app.
[09:15] <quibbler> duke_: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[09:15] <elad`> fieldse, I didn't mean to say I could do better.
[09:16] <elad`> fieldse, but the same goes for music. If someone is missing half the notes while playing the moonlight sonata, and I point it out, it doesn't mean I presume to be able to hit even a third.
[09:16] <elad`> Criticism is legitimate even from someone who can't do better, so long as it phrased correctly.
[09:18] <Dexi> woops
[09:18] <Dexi> hey guys i just now updated to the 9.04 alpha and it looks like i lost my java plugin
[09:18] <Flannel> Dexi: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[09:18] <Dexi> k
[09:19] <quibbler> elad`: criticism is fine but this is a support channel philosophical discuss are better in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:19] <quibbler> discussions
[09:19] <databridge> hello, is there a distribution out there which comes with math and electronics software?
[09:20] <tavish> hi again, this is the output of gstreamer-volume-control  http://codepad.org/1hDYBwx0 ,, why is it like this, there are no devices too
[09:20] <Flannel> databridge: Ubuntu includes that in the repos, which you can easily install
[09:20] <databridge> i know, but i was searching for a lab distro
[09:20] <elad`> quibbler, very well.
[09:20] <Dexi> !flash
[09:21] <databridge> all in one for developement
[09:21] <Flannel> databridge: Doubtful that there'll be one with all that pre-installed, since its trivial to install it afterwards on your favorite distro (and each lab is likely set up differently anyway)
[09:21] <elad`> Now, how do I use gconf-editor to add keyboard shortcuts? I see now connection between those shortcuts and launching programs.
[09:21] <databridge> the problem is that i maybe want to use it where i have no internet
[09:21] <databridge> so i need to have everything together
[09:22] <Flannel> databridge: That's not entirely true.  You can bring a supplimental CD with you (or customize the alternate CD)
[09:22] <quibbler> elad`: you can read this: http://library.gnome.org/users/gconf-editor/2.22/
[09:22] <Flannel> !aptoncd | databridge
[09:22] <databridge> hm
[09:22] <Flannel> databridge: or if you want it all on one cd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[09:22] <databridge> ah ok thanks
[09:23] <elad`> I've just done the most idiotic thing ever. I tried to assign Alt+F4 a shortcut - since Alt+F3 was the last one I had. IDIOT.
[09:23] <fieldse> lol
[09:23] <bec0de> hello all
[09:23] <Dexi> oh adobe makes a .deb for flash now
[09:24] <elad`> Then, I got all surprised for a second when the window closed as I tried to launch a program with that new shortcut.
[09:24] <Bec0de> hi, anyone know an application i can use for screencasting
[09:24] <Flannel> !screencast | Bec0de
[09:24] <Bec0de> thanks alot
[09:24] <fieldse> >> Hey All: Dumb IRC question (Please excuse me) Is there a way to disable notifications for users logging into/out of rooms?
[09:25] <Bec0de> :)
[09:25] <Flannel> fieldse: Yes, but the specifics depend on your client.
[09:25] <fieldse> >> IRC client is Xchat
[09:25] <Flannel> fieldse: right click the channel name (the tab), and there should be a place to turn them off
[09:25] <hypernewbie> can anyone helpz me get my wg111v2 wireless dongle working in ibex?
[09:26] <fabzor> how can i adjust my mouses usb polling rate to a specific number in hz?
[09:26] <fieldse> @flannel: D'oh!  So simple!  So anyway to set up permanently / for all?
[09:26] <Flannel> fieldse: I'm not sure.  I'm not a big Xchat guy
[09:27] <fabzor> i want to set my mouse to 240hz or 120hz or 60hz so its synched to my video
[09:27] <fabzor> 580 would be great
[09:28] <fabzor> but all i can seem to do is go 1000 or 500 or 250 witch doesn't divide to well by 60
[09:28] <fieldse> @flannel - What's yer client of choice then?
[09:28] <Flannel> fieldse: irssi
[09:28] <quibbler> elad`: what programare you trying to start?
[09:28] <fabzor> irssi = 1337 :D
[09:29] <fieldse> flannel: seems to be the big todo.  What's so good about it?
[09:29] <fieldse> flannel: in non-sarcasm, btw
[09:30] <fieldse> =)
[09:30] <Flannel> fieldse: I think most people use it because they can throw it into screen and then have it last forever type thing.
[09:31] <fieldse> eh??
[09:31] <fieldse> What does that mean?
[09:31] <Flannel> fieldse: You can have it running all the time, even when you log out.
[09:31] <fieldse> whaaa?
[09:32] <zapz> guys how can I know my IP in terminal ... jus2 like the DOS command = "ipconfig /all"  ?
[09:32] <fieldse> sweet!
[09:32] <quibbler> elad`: you there?
[09:32] <JEEBcz> zapz, ifconfig
[09:32] <jigspan> ifconfig
[09:33] <zapz> JEEBcz the inet addr:             < ryt?
[09:33] <rdz> hi all. the area to click into for dragging and resizing windows is too small. is there a chance to make it bigger/wider?
[09:33] <rdz> i am talking about the lower right corner of all windows
[09:34] <jigspan> i need help on pppd
[09:34] <n2diy> jigspan: what's up?
[09:34] <jigspan> poff command not work
[09:35] <roterguru> hi
[09:35] <hypernewbie> ....anyone?
[09:35] <hypernewbie> i could use some help getting my WG111v2 working
[09:36] <magnetron> !anyone | hypernewbie
[09:36] <roterguru> can I use the Desktop CD to upgrade an existing 8.10 system to 9.04 alpha?
[09:36] <jigspan> n2diy: what happen?
[09:36] <n2diy> jigspan: ok, I never used that with ppp. I used to know how to set up kppp, but never played with the dameon.
[09:36] <magnetron> roterguru→ no, but you can use the alternate cd for upgrading.
[09:36] <Flannel> roterguru: No.
[09:36] <roterguru> ok, thx
[09:36] <n2diy> jigspan: what, I don't type fast enough?
[09:36] <hypernewbie> magnetron: da internetz can has bad gramma and speeling
[09:37] <jigspan> n2diy: ok no u type fast. let me ask u some thing else
[09:37] <magnetron> hypernewbie→ it's not a grammar remark, i'm just encouraging you to ask you question right out instead of waiting for someone to volunteer
[09:38] <n2diy> jigspan:ok?
[09:38] <enzotib> hi, how to set a global keybinding (Ctrl-Alt-L to gnome-screensaver-command -l) in LXDE/openbox ?
[09:38] <ShinyHat> having a small shutdown problem- after the bar fades on the shutdown splash, i have to push a few random keys before the laptop will power down. any thoughts?
[09:38] <Orchid`> can anyone help me perform an MD hash check on a mac OSX?
[09:38] <Orchid`> MD5 hash check*
[09:38] <_5w155> wassup all
[09:39] <hypernewbie> magnetron: ok, i will ask it without "anyone" next time ;)
[09:39] <Dexi> how do you run a process from the terminal and close the window without killing the process?
[09:39] <jigspan> n2diy: what is alternative to control alter delete command
[09:39] <magnetron> hypernewbie→ just tell them what's the problem.
[09:39] <badcat> greetings all
[09:40] <Orchid`> can anyone help me perform an MD5 hash check on a mac OSX? i have downloaded an appropiate .ISO form the wesite but cannot figure out how to work disk utilit the way it specifies.
[09:40] <hateball> Dexi: add a & after the command, then use "exit" to close the terminal
[09:40] <n2diy> jigspan: depends on what you want to happen? Reboot, logout...?
[09:40] <hypernewbie> ok, my problem is my WG111v2 does not work, and I've tried the ndiswrapper solution..unsucessfully
[09:40] <hateball> Dexi: eg: vlc & exit
[09:40] <Dexi> hateball: thanks
[09:40] <jigspan> n2diy: logout
[09:41] <n2diy> jigspan: ctrl+alt+backspace will stop X, and prompt you to log in  again.
[09:41] <badcat> can anyone help. i'm trying to update and add to my source packages and i'm getting this error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/131460/
[09:41] <harlemdavvey> !terminal
[09:42] <magnetron> hypernewbie→ do you get any error messages?
[09:42] <soreau> badcat: Looks like you have some sources for debian mixed in. Pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:42] <harlemdavvey> is linux philosophy pro or against the phenomenon of file sharing? i'm just curious..
[09:42] <jigspan> n2diy: sometimes my ubuntu os stop, i can not use mouse and keyboard
[09:43] <hypernewbie> magnetron: no, it gets very low link quality and disconnects after about 5 mins
[09:43] <JGodbout> Generally pro file sharing
[09:43] <magnetron> harlemdavvey→ we share files with permission
[09:43] <Flannel> harlemdavvey: try #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support questions
[09:43] <hypernewbie> magnetron: iwconfig shows signal is great
[09:43] <jigspan> n2diy: can u explain about poff
[09:44] <Orchid`> I am having an issue with my operating systme locking up when i try to open  a window on my linux box, it is amd64 hardware and operating system. i cannot remember what i did last and it still locks up will anyone try oto hlep me out please? i am currently on a mac computer
[09:44] <magnetron> hypernewbie→ so generally it works, but not with any good quality. maybe you have environmental factors, like interference
[09:44] <n2diy> jigspan: that sucks!, not much you can do in that case, have you tried ctrl + alt +F2 to get to a terminal? What dees poff have to do with this?
[09:45] <hypernewbie> magnetron: no, because on windows, the signal / link quality is through the roof
[09:45] <hypernewbie> magnetron: and when same when i had dapper kubuntu a while ago
[09:46] <jigspan> no poff doesnt have anything with that it a diff quastion
[09:46] <n2diy> jigspan: it is a good idea to solve one problem at a time.
[09:46] <jigspan> n2diy: yes
[09:48] <magnetron> hypernewbie→ well the ndiswrapper driver will most probably work less than the opensource driver provided by ubuntu by default
[09:48] <Orchid`> I am having an issue with my operating systme locking up when i try to open  a window on my linux box, it is amd64 hardware and operating system. i cannot remember what i did last and it still locks up will anyone try oto hlep me out please? i am currently on a mac computer
[09:48] <Sooke1> Hi all
[09:49] <hypernewbie> magnetron: yes, the ndiswrapper "fix" for this fails
[09:49] <jigspan> n2diy: when i use poff it say there is nothing to stop and my pppoe connection remain active  i want to stop it by cmd not by switch off router
[09:49] <Sooke1> I am having problems to send emails form my Uunutu Server, I installed POSTFIX but I am not sure my PHP code is using it to send SMTP, because the emails I send are all either rejected or put into spam folders, any idea please?
[09:49] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:50] <silv3r_m00n> how can I get the menu of suse kde here in ubuntu(kde)
[09:50] <disappearedng> Hey everyone my ubuntu nowadays is getting so laggy any ideas on how I could find a source of memory leakage?
[09:52] <Orchid`> I am having an issue with my operating system locking up when i try to open  a window on my linux box, it is amd64 hardware and operating system. i cannot remember what i did last and it still locks up will anyone try to hlep me out please? i am currently on a mac computer
[09:52] <n2diy> jigspan: ok, what does if config list your ppp connection as, ppp0?
[09:53] <n2diy> ifconfig
[09:54] <n2diy> jigspan: ok, what does ifconfig list your ppp connection as, ppp0?
[09:54] <jigspan> n2diy: p2p ipad mask
[09:55] <fieldse> Orchid` hi , don't know if i can help you but..
[09:55] <fieldse> Orchid` anything else you can tell about it?
[09:55] <n2diy> jigspan: is this a land line telephone?
[09:55] <ubuntu_> i have 4gb ddr2 ram. do i need to create another 4gb linux swap? if yes should i put it in the begining of the partition or after the ubuntu partition?
[09:56] <koshari> disappearedng use top?
[09:56] <jigspan> n2diy: yes it is
[09:56] <Orchid`> fieldse: well on occasion, this seems to be an issue. there is no sound whatsoever when i turn on my lnuxbox. if there is no sound, when i am prompted to log in,  once i log in everything freezes. if there is when i try to open ANYTHING it freezes, and i am forced to restart my tower
[09:56] <Padhu> anybody used icewm in ubuntu
[09:56] <ortsvorsteher> !anybody | Padhu
[09:57] <n2diy> jigspan: ok, why is p2p involved? I never had to deal with that on a dial up connection?
[09:57] <fieldse> orchid` : yikes. Best place to start is the forums... you scoured linuxhelp / debian user forums / ubuntu forums / linuxhelp yet?
[09:57] <Orchid`> so any idea on what to do Fieldse? i was going to jsut fresh install a new copy of the LTS version, however i cannot figure out how to verify the hash on this Mac OS X
[09:58] <Orchid`> hav enot had the time im moving in and out of places at the moment
[09:58] <jigspan> n2diy: i first configure pppoe then i manual configure network manager to connect to internet
[09:59] <Orchid`> fieldse but if you can help me to get this hash check performed then i wont have a single issue considering msot of the data is retrievable.
[09:59] <fieldse> orchid` understood. That is primary place to start, there's always someone who's had same problem if you can find it. But aside from that - download a linux recovery CD and see if you can save it, or else reinstall fresh copy
[09:59] <I2> i guys a simple question....is there a way to automatically answer "y" to the bash  ???
[09:59] <ubuntu_> do i need a swap?
[09:59] <fieldse> orchid` don't understand- hash check?
[09:59] <sim_kharkov> no!
[09:59] <n2diy> jigspan: pppoe is point to point protcol over ethernet, yes?
[09:59] <jigspan> n2diy: i know that
[10:00] <n2diy> jigspan: good, now I do too!
[10:00] <jigspan> n2diy:what?
[10:00] <sim_kharkov> Does anyone/anybody...
[10:00] <n2diy> jigspan: good, now I do too! Know what pppoe is.
[10:00] <sim_kharkov> how to resize fixed size windows?)
[10:00] <fieldse> orchid` Don't know about hash check, but download recovery disk, it's full of good stuff. If you know what you're doing you can probably fix it with that.
[10:01] <n2diy> jigspan: you said you were using a dial up service, so why are you trying to talk to it with an ethernet connection?
[10:01] <fieldse> orchid` http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[10:01] <Orchid`> fieldse heh i would love to if i knew where to download a proper recovery disc, there are no recovery options with the downloads from ubuntu it seems only the discs tehy ship out
[10:02] <tuntun> Hello. I used add/remove to install k9copy. It said that install failed. How do I install it?
[10:02] <fieldse> See above
[10:02] <fieldse> orchid` it does EVERYTHING
[10:03] <bsm> hi, are ACPI batteries in /proc/acpi/battery always BAT0, BAT1 etc ? I think I had a device where it had another name, but I don't remember it
[10:03] <Orchid`> fieldse: the problem isgetting the md5 summing to work or to actually find it on this computer
[10:03] <fieldse> orchid` Also  - when/if you reinstall: I've read that you should install /home to a different partition so you can reinstall / update the OS without losing data
[10:04] <jigspan> n2diy:let me tell u what i have. i have brdbnd con in eth0 in window when my router is ready i use pppoe dial
[10:04] <TychoQuad> can someone help me in upgrading my nvidia drivers? I ran sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 like everywhere suggested, but when i logout and log back in, x fails to get me my gui back until i reinstall the old ones
[10:04] <quibbler> Orchid`: look here: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/1277
[10:04] <fieldse> orchid` I don't know enough to understand md5 sum and all that.. =)
[10:04] <Orchid`> heh my problem is this is a mac computer otherwise i wouldnt be here tonight
[10:06] <Orchid`> alright quibbler any idea how to find the command line with OSX?
[10:06] <quibbler> Orchid`: no never used a mac
[10:06] <Orchid`> alright thanks for the help finding the prompting though quibbler
[10:06] <Orchid`> and thanks fieldse for you rinput
[10:06] <quibbler> Orchid`: google?
[10:06] <jigspan> n2diy:in ubuntu it is connecting  automatically. i can turn-off router but i want to terminate ppp session by command
[10:07] <fieldse> orchid` =)
[10:07] <Orchid`> haha alright ll go google .<
[10:07] <m0nst3rkill3r> Hi Guys.
[10:07] <fieldse> =P
[10:08] <n2diy> jigspan: I'm lost, sorry, GL
[10:08] <fieldse> Lol... I'm going to sit in this room and do nothing but answer "Google it."
[10:08] <fieldse> To everyone
[10:08] <Malacius> help :(   http://paveiksliukai.net/images/430_01.jpg
[10:08] <m0nst3rkill3r> I bought a vserver with ubuntu, because i use for one year ubuntu. so i want to learn the console. how can i make an autostart for ubuntu ? maybe to statrt automaticly teamspeakserver on reboot
[10:08] <jigspan> n2diy: ok bye
[10:08] <quibbler> Orchid`: or ask in ##mac
[10:08] <Malacius> http://paveiksliukai.net/images/430_01.jpg   :'(
[10:08] <jigspan> n2diy: thanks for chat
[10:09] <joejc> how do i get mobil broadband to work?
[10:09] <TychoQuad> can someone help me in upgrading my nvidia drivers? I ran sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 like everywhere suggested, but when i logout and log back in, x fails to get me my gui back until i reinstall the old ones
[10:10] <Malacius> :/
[10:10] <joejc> what wrong with the old?
[10:10] <TychoQuad> performance
[10:10] <joejc> they dont work?
[10:10] <lyte> does anyone know a way of allowing certain users to connect via ssh but only for a given subnet?
[10:10] <rdz> hi all. how to make the handle in the corner for resizing windows bigger? it's very tiny here and it's difficult to hit
[10:10] <Malacius> http://paveiksliukai.net/images/430_01.jpg  watch it
[10:10] <fieldse> malacius =(
[10:11] <Malacius> what i can do?
[10:11] <TychoQuad> no, it's just that the 180 series is reported to have better performance in Gnome Do and 3D apps
[10:11] <m0nst3rkill3r> I bought a vserver with ubuntu, because i use for one year ubuntu. so i want to learn the console. how can i make an autostart for ubuntu ? maybe to statrt automaticly teamspeakserver on reboot
[10:12] <joejc> r there any smart people here?
[10:12] <quibbler> Malacius: close the update manager open a terminal  and do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:12] <Dexi> joe nope
[10:12] <linxeh> m0nst3rkill3r: read up on init.d
[10:12] <m0nst3rkill3r> okay
[10:13] <linxeh> m0nst3rkill3r: but why not just learn the console on your own PC? why buy an online server package ?
[10:13] <m0nst3rkill3r> because i get one free^^
[10:13] <m0nst3rkill3r> so.
[10:13] <m0nst3rkill3r> i mean
[10:13] <m0nst3rkill3r> i bought it for 0 dollars :D
[10:13] <Malacius> :) works
[10:14] <quibbler> Malacius: ;)
[10:14] <Malacius> thanks
[10:14] <quibbler> Malacius: no problem man
[10:14] <Malacius> i love UBUNTU :D
[10:15] <joejc> anyone here know what mobile broadband is?
[10:15] <Slart> !boot | m0nst3rkill3r
[10:15] <Slart> !session | m0nst3rkill3r
[10:16] <Slart> joejc: stop asking meta questions.. just ask your real question
[10:16] <koshari> can you make emerald buttons smaller, i want to make a smaller title bar but i cannot go smaller than the button pixmaps?
[10:16] <joejc> i asked my real question
[10:16] <joejc> know one answered
[10:16] <Slart> joejc: ok, answer is yes.. someone here knows what mobile broadband is
[10:17] <joejc> how do i get mobil broadband to work?
[10:17] <mrwes> how do I change the default screen size of a terminal window when I open it -- I always have to resize it
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> okay thx
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> but i get errors if i want to install unrar Oo
[10:17] <Slart> joejc: oh.. so that was the real question..
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> Reading package lists... Done
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> Reading package lists... Done
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> Building dependency tree
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> Reading state information... Done
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:17] <FloodBot1> m0nst3rkill3r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <m0nst3rkill3r>   vnc-e: Depends: libx11-6 but it is not going to be installed or
[10:17] <bazhang> joejc, give more details
[10:17] <mrwes> er
[10:18] <Slart> joejc: you weren't really interested in the answer to the first question.. that's why it's called a meta question.. why didn't you just ask "how do I get mobile broadband to work" right away?
[10:18] <illumin8> m0nst3rkill3r: Could you please run your commands, then pastebin the output in terminal so we can examine indepth.
[10:18] <joejc> scroll up and youll see my second question was my first question
[10:18] <m0nst3rkill3r> yea sorry..
[10:18] <m0nst3rkill3r> http://pastebin.com/m537dbfb7
[10:18] <m0nst3rkill3r> here's the pastebin
[10:19] <joejc> making it my 3rtd actuall question
[10:19] <bazhang> joejc, how does one get which mobil broadband to work in which scenario with which version of ubuntu to do what (fill in those details)
[10:19] <illumin8> m0nst3rkill3r: do you have deborphan installed
[10:20] <illumin8> m0nst3rkill3r: looks like you have about 5 + orphaned packages, cleaning them up should reslove issues
[10:20] <joejc> its a verision usb720 and i want to see if it works at all
[10:20] <Slart> joejc: then just repeat your real question every 15 minutes or something.. if you don't get an answer to that question then perhaps you might want to rephrase it.. not into an "anyone" question.. I would add what version of ubuntu you're running.. what kind of mobile broadband you are using, what you've tried so far etc etc
[10:20] <m0nst3rkill3r> how ?
[10:20] <illumin8> m0nst3rkill3r: sudo apt-get install deborphan
[10:20] <bazhang> joejc, with ubuntu? as a wireless device connected to your computer? to sync? to do what
[10:20] <m0nst3rkill3r> okay thx
[10:21] <mcbane> hi
[10:21] <joejc> for internet
[10:21] <m0nst3rkill3r> yay thx it works :D
[10:21] <mcbane> what do I have to put in the fstab that the device gets mounted at boot time?
[10:21] <illumin8> m0nst3rkill3r: welcome, enjoy
[10:21] <bazhang> joejc, no idea as you did not answer my query clearly.
[10:21] <Slart> mcbane: entries in fstab gets mounted at boot time.. if they are specified correctly and so on..
[10:22] <luk411> luk411
[10:22] <luk411> hay
[10:22] <mcbane> Slart: thanks. I think I just found the real problem. LVM does not know the volume group. Thanks
[10:22] <illumin8> mcbane: the general rule of thumb is the UUID and the mount location if thats what you mean
[10:22] <luk411> wie geht?
[10:22] <moijk> hi. currently my sound card is making a repeat sound which is rather annoying, and I want to run an reset on alsa. it asks for a card, but how do I find what the card name is?
[10:22] <Slart> mcbane: ah..=)
[10:22] <luk411> was machste so??
[10:23] <Slart> moijk: cat /proc/asound/cards will give you  a list
[10:23] <joejc> i want to get this http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/872/40/ to work with ubuntu 8.10
[10:24] <moijk> thanks Slart
[10:25] <Slart> moijk: you're welcome
[10:25] <moijk> Slart: but it doesn't seem to work either with the alsa-utils reset Intel nor reset 0. get an amixer error?
[10:25] <quibbler> mrwes: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15471
[10:26] <irHoel> any gay here...?
[10:26] <m0nst3rkill3r> @slart i need the sessionstartup for the console not for the gui..
[10:26] <Slart> moijk: alsa is a weird beast.. I've never used alsa-utils to reset a card.. I didn't even know you could do that.. what is the error message?
[10:26] <illumin8> joejc: is it plugged in currently?
[10:26] <Slart> m0nst3rkill3r: hmm.. perhaps .bashrc or similar file might be useful
[10:27] <joejc> no
[10:27] <joejc> it was
[10:27] <illumin8> joejc: could you plug it in then type lsusb in terminal please
[10:27] <moijk> Slart: amixer that is invoked say it is an ivalid card number. how would you suggest to reset the card?
[10:27] <joejc> it shows up
[10:27] <illumin8> joejc: so you just need an interface for it?
[10:27] <Slart> m0nst3rkill3r: but that might be run every time you start a shell.. not sure
[10:28] <mrwes> quibbler, thanks
[10:28] <joejc> i think the interface works
[10:28] <quibbler> mrwes: you are welcome
[10:28] <joejc> if i use the default number my comp frezes
[10:28] <illumin8> joejc: what errors are you having in using it then? The question seemed to be that you couldnt get it started?
[10:29] <Slart> moijk: can you pastebin a copy paste of the terminal window where you tried this?
[10:29] <joejc> if i use the correct number it doesnt connect
[10:29] <illumin8> joejc: whats the default connection?
[10:29] <joejc> for?
[10:29] <illumin8> joejc: for the usb modem
[10:30] <slavikE90> what broke?
[10:30] <joejc> 3865379
[10:30] <joejc> no
[10:30] <illumin8> joejc: not the phone number friend, i mean what is its physical location
[10:30] <slavikE90> Lol ...
[10:31] <illumin8> joejc: the freeze would indicate theres a conflict in drives, or that the usb is conflicting with another known device, thats why i ask :)
[10:31] <joejc> its Auto Mobile Broadband (CDMA) connection
[10:31] <illumin8> joejc: thats the output from lsusb?
[10:32] <moijk> slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/131482/
[10:32] <joejc> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1410:2110 Novatel Wireless Ovation U720/MCD3000
[10:32] <illumin8> joejc: are there any other device bus 02 or device 03 listed also?
[10:33] <Slart> moijk: hmm.. I get the same error when I run it here.. odd..
[10:34] <joejc> heres all of it http://pastebin.com/m3a15c123
[10:34] <moijk> Slart: so how would you suggest resetting the card? it loops a small sample over and over, which isn't very entertaining.
[10:34] <Slart> moijk: have you tried "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset all" ?
[10:35] <xukun> hello everybody. Can I see see how much power electricity my system is using with full load? I,m looking some kind of console command or a program I can run
[10:35] <Slart> xukun: powertop?
[10:35] <slavik2> Xukun, no
[10:35] <moijk> Slart: same error, I'm afraid
[10:36] <slavik2> Xukun, you'd need kill-a-watt or something of the sort
[10:36] <Slart> moijk: if you look at the init.d script you're running it is doing all kinds of stuff using the command alsactl.. it's probably all those calls that fail for some reason
[10:37] <Slart> moijk: they might have changed the syntax or someone didn't have enough coffee when they wrote it
[10:37] <cl428> hi
[10:37] <moijk> Slart: I'll see if I can find the gremlin, and then if so file a bug comment (or sponsor their caffeine)
[10:37] <Slart> moijk: sounds like a plan.. I'll google around and see if there is another way of resetting an alsa device
[10:37] <illumin8> joejc:  on the top right of your ubuntu screen there should be an icon for network connections, could you please right click that and see if it has an ethX (where x is the number) assigned?
[10:38] <xukun> Slart, slavik2 thans guys
[10:41] <ccchatzilla> What is the Linux equivalent of "RunAsDate" ? In other operating systems it's a utility that injects the date/time that you specify into the desired application.
[10:42] <Slart> ccchatzilla: never seen such a command.. why would you want to do that?
[10:42] <Slart> ccchatzilla: just out of curiosity
[10:42] <slavik2> Hmm, don't think i've seen that one, would be interesting to know though
[10:43] <slavik2> I am sure it simply changes the time while the command is run
[10:43] <ccchatzilla> Slart: I want to use some evaluation software for a couplemore days
[10:44] <illumin8> RunAsDate intercepts the kernel API calls that returns the current date and time (GetSystemTime, GetLocalTime, GetSystemTimeAsFileTime)
[10:44] <slavik2> eval on linux?
[10:44] <slavik2> Must be really expensive stuff
[10:44] <ccchatzilla> yes, the wing IDE is trial
[10:45] <slavik2> Sounds familiar
[10:45] <slavik2> What it used for?
[10:45] <ccchatzilla> python development with pygtk
[10:46] <slavik2> Ahh
[10:46] <slavik2> Still haven't decided on whether you want it?
[10:46] <elcMawr> hello, running ubu 8.04 on
[10:46] <elcMawr> on a Samsung R40 laptop. Bootup speed is incredibly slow.
[10:47] <ccchatzilla> I want to use for a couple more days, that's it
[10:47] <elcMawr> how can i find out what is delaying bootup? ooting in recovery mode is ok.
[10:47] <illumin8> elcMawr: are you booting a livecd/dvd or native install?
[10:47] <slavik2> Elc, there are guides and tools
[10:48] <elcMawr> native
[10:48] <elcMawr> ok, where are guides and tools pls?
[10:48] <kane77> hi, a very weird thing is happening, my wifi on my laptop can connect to almost any wifi AP except for my at home, which is not even seen by the laptop.. what could be the cause??
[10:48] <illumin8> !boot
[10:49] <Slart> kane77: some weird wi-fi standard?
[10:49] <kane77> Slart, nope, it is very standard wifi :)
[10:49] <kane77> and it sees it in monitor mode with kismet
[10:49] <elcMawr> illumin8, that's fine, ut how do i determine what's hanging at boot tome?
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[10:50] <illumin8> Sorry i havent edited many startup options.
[10:50] <Slart> kane77: hmm..no idea then.. odd that kismet sees it but not the network management thingy
[10:50] <illumin8> elcMawr: you are going to have to do the legwork and read the sites.
[10:51] <elcMawr> thanks
[10:51] <illumin8> !boot > elcMawr
[10:51] <dimitri> hello there
[10:51] <kane77> Slart, yes it is very weird.. I miss the old days when it worked, it was great reading mail while in bed :)
[10:52] <illumin8> kane77: have you changed your wireless routers Encryption?
[10:52] <dimitri> Does anyone have an idea why banshee does not see my ipod nano under ubuntu ?
[10:52] <illumin8> kane77: or network discovery?
[10:53] <Nalf> Anyone mind helping me setting up my wireless usb adapter?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: run lsusb
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: one line will identify the chip it uses
[10:54] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, I can't run lsusb. ;)
[10:54] <dixon_> Hi all. Is it true that I gain performance if I split my dedicated ubuntu machine into virtual machines. One for mysql, one for www etc... ?
[10:54] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30.
[10:54] <slavik2> Dixon, who lied to you?
[10:54] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, It's a WUSB54gs.
[10:55] <illumin8> dixon_: it has to do with ratio of cpu usage more than package usage.
[10:55] <fghjk> hi
[10:55] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, linksys wireless usb adapter. When I plug it in it prevents ubuntu from: installing, booting, and shutting down.
[10:55] <dixon_> slavik2: Some dude at a web developer company here in town...
[10:55] <illumin8> dixon_: so the answer is no.
[10:55] <fghjk> there
[10:55] <dixon_> slavik2, illumin8: Yeah, I thought that it sounded wierd
[10:55] <slavik2> Dixon, he's a moron :)
[10:55] <fghjk> i try to follow an how to tuturial to install and configure openvpn
[10:56] <fghjk> well
[10:56] <illumin8> dixon_: you may be able to pipe your programs to force cpu usage to them, but it would lower overall use.
[10:56] <slavik2> Vm is good for isolating software so that bad code doesn't bring everything down
[10:56] <fghjk> the server is now on listening mode
[10:56] <dixon_> slavik2: Yeah, thanks for confirming it
[10:56] <slavik2> You can also move vms between physical hosts
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: then you may need a part of your shutdown script or logoff script to rmmod the module that makes it work
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: does it transmit / recive ok otherwise though?
[10:57] <fghjk> i just need some help to finish the installation with the client configuration file
[10:57] <slavik2> Dixon, software cannot make hardware work better
[10:57] <fghjk> is there anyone know about openvpn ihere ?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[10:57] <dimitri> Ok, after a few restarts it suddeny works, great
[10:57] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, no it doesn't.. my messages log and dmesg is http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30 -- that's the error it gives.
[10:57] <dixon_> slavik2: so true
[10:57] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, I think it's a kernel error, but I honestly don't know 100%.
[10:58] <fghjk> no it is not vpn ActionParsnip
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: ok what iis the output of lsusb
[10:58] <fghjk> it is openvpn
[10:58] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, lsusb wont run with the device plugged in.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: the printing on the plastic casing of the devce is moot, we need what linux sees the device as
[10:59] <fghjk> is it the official ubuntu channael ?
[10:59] <gabriel> is there an emerald theme mangager? i cannot find it in add/remove programs.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> fghjk: yep
[10:59] <fghjk> and noone help here
[10:59] <fghjk> ???
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> fghjk: i'm helping, theres nnoo guaruntee that anyone will know about your particular issue at any one point
[11:00] <illumin8> !ask | fghjk
[11:00] <rags> how to add a second NIC to ubuntu...it gets listed in lspci
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> fghjk: we can't tell you what we dont know
[11:00] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, 13b1:000e.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> fghjk: if you try a little later, there will be different users in who may be able tohelp
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: perfect :D
[11:01] <fghjk> ok
[11:01] <fghjk> thx for your participation
[11:01] <fghjk> ActionParsnip:
[11:01] <fghjk> bye
[11:01] <fghjk> seeeeeee u
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> gabriel: have you ran: sudo apt-get install emerald
[11:02] <rags> second nic on ubuntu...lspci lists the nic
[11:02] <gabriel> thanks
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: ndiswrapper for you m'lad
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Linksys_WUSB54GS_v1_&_v2
[11:03] <axionix> is there any way to have per-folder icon sizes in thunar like nautilus?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: step by step, should see you through
[11:03] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, I don't have internet in ubuntu.
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> axionix: right click folder -> properties (maybe)
[11:04] <axionix> actionparsnip: nope. theres not even any cli parameters in thunar :(
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: then you will need to download everything it says and burn to cd, or you could make your lfe a billion times easier and use a wired connection until you get on your feet
[11:04] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, that just leaves me with one thing.. where can I download the ndiswrapper packages?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: shows you the packages to get for offline use
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> axionix: so you want the file size of a folder basically
[11:06] <axionix> actionparsnip: no
[11:06] <axionix> i want the view to be remembered for each folder
[11:06] <axionix> instead of globally
[11:06] <greenS> hey
[11:06] <greenS> i have a problem with ubuntu bott screen
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> axionix: i see, im not sure, ive not used thunar extensively
[11:07] <axionix> actionparsnip: that, or a cli opion so i can launch ~/pics with bi icon sizes
[11:07] <greenS> does anybody know how i can restore the standart boot screen?
[11:07] <axionix> big*
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> axionix: theres 8 users in #thunar
[11:07] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, when I install those packages the GUI for ndiswrapper doesn't load. <.< What packages do I need to build the source?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: you need to edit /etc/modules and write ndiswrapper at the bottom mso that its loaded
[11:08] <greenS> i installed splashy under intrepix. but its not for that version of ubuntu. after installation the graphical bootscreen has been destroyed....
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> greenS: do you mean the standard splash screen?
[11:08] <greenS> yes
[11:08] <greenS> i already removed splashy in synaptics
[11:08] <axionix> ok thanks
[11:08] <greenS> but the bootscreen is still missing
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> greenS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=555779
[11:09] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, thank you so much for all of your help.
[11:09] <Nalf> Hopefully I'll be back soon!
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: if the device s preventing boot
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: disable bootsplash screen and watch your system bootup
[11:10] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, if I unplug it.. it books.;)
[11:10] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, boots, too.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: tried a different usb port?
[11:10] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, all seven.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> good
[11:12] <greenS> thx. if i type in the command for restoring boot screen theres the message that the theme is broken or destroyed?!
[11:12] <greenS> can i reload it via synaptics or something like this?
[11:13] <devon> hey
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> greenS: thats as much as i know dude
[11:13] <greenS> ok thx
[11:13] <devon> I'm usign 8.10 and i need to install a plugin for gedit.. where do i put it?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> greenS: apt-cache search boot | grep art
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> greenS: might give some clues for a package to reinstall
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> devon: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/gedit_plugins_what_they_are_and_how_use_them
[11:14] <greenS> btw. do you know how i can disable the bios-post-sounds? ubuntu seems to give out those bios post instead of an audio alert. thats really annoying because those posts are very loud...
[11:14] <devon> thanks ill try that
[11:15] <TuTUXG> !botsnack
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> greenS: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[11:16] <zardosh> I want to find every all files *.jpg and *.gif in /home with find command, would you guide me? thanx
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> greenS: if you add the word pcspkr to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist it will never beep again
[11:18] <devon> ok im back.. my problem is i dont have a .gnome2/gedit folder.. should i just create one?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: find ~/ -name *.jpg >> ~images.txt; sudo find -name *.gif >> ~/images.txt
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> devon: sounds good to me
[11:18] <zardosh> thanx ActionParsnip, I give a try
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> zardosh:it should be jpg >> ~/images.txt
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: typo
[11:19] <ubuntnoob> is there a better way (through terminal maybe) to delete a program that doesn't have an uninstall file?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: if you've ran it already just run: rm ~/images.txt
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ubuntnoob: what program is it and we can find a graceful way
[11:20] <devon> nope.. still doesnt work..
[11:20] <mmm4m5m> question please: how to mount a directory /dev/sda1/dir (to /media/sda1)?
[11:20] <ubuntnoob> counter strike source, it got messed up during the install, so i want to start fresh
[11:20] <Silkjc> Since a codec was downloaded by Rhythmbox automatically, after a reboot my sound is just a series of pops and crackles..don't really know where to start figuring this one out..any ideas?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> devon: after its ran, look in your home dir for results.txt, it will have the info you want
[11:21] <rdz> mmm4m5m, mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ubuntnoob: did you install it via wine?
[11:21] <rdz> mmm4m5m, probably you need to mkdir /media/sda1 first
[11:21] <devon> after what is ran?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> rdz: those need sudo
[11:21] <greenS> thank you seemed to work!!! :)
[11:21] <rdz> ActionParsnip, ah... of course
[11:21] <ubuntnoob> no, i found a 'workaround' w/o wine, but i think that's what messed it, so i wanna try it with
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> devon: nm, im mixing up
[11:22] <mmm4m5m> rdz: I want to mount directory inside sda1 (mount /dev/sda1/dir /media/sda1_dir)
[11:22] <rdz> mmm4m5m, prepend both commands with sudo
[11:22] <devon> ok.. so what do i do? i want to install the symbol browser for gedit..
[11:22] <zardosh> ActionParsnip: I just want to find pix files and move them in /image dir
[11:22] <greenS> one last question;
[11:22] <rdz> mmm4m5m, usually the dev noces /dev/sdxX are de
[11:22] <greenS> i type in the command "sudo echo "lenovo-sl-laptop.ko control_backlight=1" >> /etc/modules
[11:22] <greenS> "
[11:23] <greenS> the answer is "permission denied"
[11:23] <rdz> mmm4m5m, usually the /dev/sdxX files are device nodes and not directories
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: simple
[11:23] <rdz> mmm4m5m, what did oyu do so that /dev/sda1 is a direcotry? i haven't seen that before
[11:23] <joetromondo> Hi, how do I find my NTFS drives in /dev
[11:23] <zardosh> is there any solution to multiple files with just single find command
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: you sure you want MOVE ?
[11:23] <greenS> what is wrong? how to type it right?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> joetromondo: sudo fdisk -l
[11:23] <mmm4m5m> Question please: will this work (it is the right way: $mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1; mount -bind /media/sda1/dir /media/sda1_dir
[11:24] <joetromondo> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> greenS: then you need sudo
[11:24] <zardosh> ActionParsnip : i just want to find and move them
[11:24] <greenS> but i typed sudo in front of the command
[11:24] <greenS> "sudo echo "lenovo-sl-laptop.ko control_backlight=1" >> /etc/modules
[11:24] <greenS> "
[11:25] <rdz> greenS, that doesn't work,because after the >> you don't have sudo privileges anymore
[11:25] <devon> ActionParsnip: i want to install the symbol browser plugin for gedit.. how do i do that?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: ok i'm just checking yuo dont mean copy
[11:25] <rdz> greenS, you would either have to work with 'sudo tee' or first becoming sudo and then do it again
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> devon: i'm unsure, that guide seemed ok but i dont use gedit, maybe someone else can pitch in
[11:26] <zardosh> just wonder is there any solution to find multiple files with just single find command?
[11:26] <devon> anyone here use gedit and can help me? <<---
[11:26] <rdz> mmm4m5m, you cannot mount dirs to dirs.. you can only mount device nodes to dirs
[11:26] <rdz> mmm4m5m, why the hell is /dev/sda1 a directory on your machine?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: find ~/ -name "*.jpg" -exec mv {} ~/images \;
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: then rerun but change .jpg for .gif
[11:27] <rdz> mmm4m5m, it doesn't help to repeat the exact questions again without answering the other questions
[11:27] <rdz> devon, don't ask to ask.. just ask
[11:27] <devon> i asked
[11:27] <zardosh> ActionParsnip : thanx sound working :)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> zardosh: im not sure how to find jpg AND gif, but you can easily run 2 seperate comands
[11:28] <mmm4m5m> rdz: what are "the other questions"?
[11:28] <rdz> devon, sorry.. then i missed your question
[11:28] <devon> how do i install symbol browser on gedit? (rdz)
[11:28] <devon> (i seem to miss the gedit folder in .gnome2)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> greenS: just use gksudo gedit /etc/modules and paste the text in yourself
[11:28] <rdz> mmm4m5m, how comes, that on your system the file /dev/sda1 is a direcory and not a device node? did you do anything special? did you create the directory yourself?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> rdz: ounds lke he's ran sudo touch /dev/sda1
[11:29] <joetromondo> Hi, im trying to recover my grub here but when I do the "find /boot/grub/stage1" it says file not found.    I already tried the "find /grub/stage1" and did not work. an ideas?
[11:29] <devon> rdz: so can you help me with gedit
[11:29] <devon> ?
[11:29] <Incarus> rdz, he could remove the directory and restart system
[11:29] <mmm4m5m> rdz: it is not a directory. I think I know the answer now. First I have to mount device... after that I could use $mount --bind
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !grub | joetromondo
[11:30] <rdz> ActionParsnip, does that convert the a device node into a directory?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> joetromondo: just reinstall grub over itself
[11:30] <emretemp> hi guys, i ve a problem. i got a new harddisk partition but cant see it. Im trying to mount it but dont know which /dev/sda it is. how can I see all harddisk partitions ? "df" command does not show this information
[11:30] <rdz> devon, sorry. i don't even know what a symbol browser is...
[11:30] <devon> rdz: programing XD
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> rdz: if it didnt exist before you can create a folder any place you like
[11:30] <Incarus> emretemp, qtparted or gparted
[11:30] <Sooke1> I have mounted a Linux server with POSTFIX, it doesn't have a domain name, just a static public IP. All the emails I send trought it are put into spam folders, I have read something about MX records, etc.. Can anyone please help me?, thanks
[11:30] <Incarus> emretemp, fdisk -l
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> rdz: even in /proc if you want your pc to go doolaly
[11:30] <emretemp> well do they operate on console?
[11:31] <emretemp> hah let me check fdisk thx
[11:31] <Cube3D> !webcam
[11:31] <Cube3D> thanks
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> emretemp: sudo fdisk -l    or    sudo parted -l
[11:31] <rdz> ActionParsnip, aha... if it did _not_ exist before.. i see
[11:31] <devon> rdz: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins in third party.. symbol browser..
[11:31] <Incarus> emretemp, gparted und qtparted are gui's. np
[11:31] <emretemp> Incarus, fdisk does the job thx
[11:31] <ech01> Hello tout le monde !!!
[11:31] <Incarus> np
[11:31] <emretemp> ActionParsnip, thx u 2 ; )
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> emretemp: np man
[11:32] <fogobogo> ech01: aloha
[11:32] <oliverl> Is here somebody who has a Hauppauge Nova-SE2 DVB card running?
[11:32] <rdz> ActionParsnip, @ sudo fdisk -l: do you know if ther eis way to list partition tables as well for non-msdos partition tables, such as GUID-table or Apple-table?
[11:32] <devon> so can anyone here help me with gedit plugins? <<-----
[11:32] <Incarus> oliverl, did you install the driver?
[11:32] <oliverl> sure
[11:33] <zardosh> #linux
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> rdz: not sure, id imagine they would show up as fdisk can identify a tonne of partition types
[11:33] <Incarus> zardosh, /join
[11:33] <Arelis> Hello people. I have installed Ubuntu on my Mac Mini. Now i want to access my files on the Mac partition. It gets mounted, but access is denied to me in my Mac home directory. (Folders like Music are unreadable)
[11:33] <Incarus> oliverl, is it working?
[11:33] <rdz> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:33] <saurabh> hel
[11:33] <oliverl> there are no error messages in "messages" as well as in dmesg
[11:33] <saurabh> i want to compile and run java in my terminal. how to do that
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> devon: http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !java | saurabh
[11:34] <oliverl> but I didn't get a tv picture
[11:34] <oliverl> I have a FF card within the same system and that card is working perfect
[11:34] <devon> ActionParsnip: thats the page i found
[11:34] <devon> still doesnt help me
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> oliverl: what line does lspci; lsusb   identify the card as?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> devon: everything i've found is pointing to that directory you created
[11:35] <oliverl> Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
[11:35] <EruditeHermit> hi can anyone tell me which application this is? http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/ubuntu-9-04-ported-to-nokias-n8x0-internet-tablets/#comments
[11:36] <Arelis> !hfs
[11:36] <Incarus> EruditeHermit, thats Mesa
[11:37] <johannes__> hi I assembled a Raid 1 /dev/md0 and want it to be auto-assembled at every boot-up, can I do: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 --config=/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf  ?
[11:37] <EruditeHermit> Incarus: I mean the system information application
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> oliverl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=844941
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> oliverl: the echo commands will need sudo
[11:37] <Incarus> EruditeHermit, oh, i thougt the highlighted one with the mouse on it O_o
[11:38] <oliverl> echo command?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> !raid | johannes__
[11:38] <devon_> ActionParsnip: im back.. so what were you saying?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> devon_: every page ive found points to that folder you made
[11:39] <devon_> yeah but the plugin doesnt show up in the gedit plugins
[11:39] <rdz> where is the shadow of the windows defined? in the gnome-theme? and i also would like to know, how i can increase the size of the area at each corner of any window, that is used to resize the window. is that also defined in the theme, or in gnome itself or in the window manager?
[11:40] <MindUser39114> ciao
[11:40] <deep1> hi there, mu usb wireless adapter is not working ...
[11:41] <deep1> its a ralink chipset, shud work out of box !
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> deep1: depends which ralink chip it is
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> deep1: lsusb will identify it for you
[11:41] <deep1> shud i post my lsusb ?
[11:41] <Stalker_> bonjour à vous
[11:41] <deep1> ID 148f:2573 Ralink Technology, Corp.
[11:42] <deep1> i'm using wicd
[11:43] <Incarus> !ndis | deepl
[11:43] <Incarus> use ndiswrapper, deepl
[11:44] <KaptenRodSkagg> anyone know a easy way to burn *.img in brasero?? or have any other better ideas of free burner app?
[11:44] <deep1> tahnk you !
[11:44] <Incarus> np
[11:44] <devon_> so can anyone help me installing a gedit plugin?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> deep1: sudo modprobe rt73usb
[11:45] <Incarus> deepl, this could also help: http://www.linux.com/feature/56946
[11:45] <MindUser39114>   : T : R : I : V : I : A : L :  Comenzando juego 12:45 !
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[11:45] <FloodBot1> MindUser39114: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <Incarus> !en | MindUser39114
[11:46] <sdf2> !audigy
[11:46] <sdf2> !sb
[11:46] <sdf2> %mic
[11:46] <devon_> help with gedit plugins?
[11:46] <sdf2> !mic
[11:46] <sdf2> !microphone
[11:46] <devon_> !gedit
[11:46] <Ardorin> My xubuntu desktop keeps sending about 10kbps to the internet and I don't know why.
[11:46] <Incarus> sdf2, google is your friend
[11:47] <Banjo_> How do i find out what wireless drivers my computer has?
[11:47] <sdf2> i can't setup microphone on my desktop pc
[11:47] <sdf2> on my laptop it works fine
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Ardorin: are you connected to a usb modem or do you use a router
[11:47] <sdf2> but desktop doesn't ...
[11:47] <Ardorin> ActionParsnip, router, cabled.
[11:47] <Incarus> sdf2, alsamixer
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> sdf2: is it a usb mic by any remote chance
[11:47] <xukun> hi all. I have a sound when playing movies but there is no sound when playing audio files. Any idea why?
[11:47] <sdf2> alsamixer?
[11:48] <sdf2> ubuntu uses pulseaudio
[11:48] <illumin8> !alsamixer
[11:48] <Incarus> Ardorin, make ping and paste
[11:48] <sdf2> which is setup nicely i think
[11:48] <Silkjc> !alsa
[11:48] <Incarus> illumin8, ...
[11:48] <illumin8> Incarus: Yes?
[11:48] <Ardorin> Incarus, ping anywhere? paste here?
[11:48] <sdf2> forget about alsa
[11:48] <sdf2> i use pulseaudio
[11:48] <Incarus> illumin8, rofl
[11:49] <Incarus> Ardorin e.g. "sudo ping google.de" and yes, paste here
[11:49] <Ardorin> 18 packets transmitted, 18 received, 0% packet loss, time 17073ms
[11:49] <Silkjc> I can't get ALSA to play anything other then pops since rebooting -=-\
[11:49] <Ardorin> need more info than that?
[11:50] <Incarus> Ardorin, yes, the line after
[11:51] <devon_> help with gedit plugins?
[11:51] <Ardorin> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 146.629/165.951/305.236/38.232 ms
[11:51] <Ardorin> Incarus, What does that second line mean?
[11:51] <illumin8> Ardorin: those are minimum average and max upload/download speeds
[11:52] <Incarus> thx, illumin8
[11:52] <illumin8> Incarus:  :)
[11:52] <Ardorin> Alright...
[11:53] <joetromondo> I can not find my menu.lst in the boot dir. I already reinstalled grub. I need to recover it
[11:53] <nicolagreco> guys is there a way to launch a command with ssh ?
[11:53] <CQ> any ideas where to donate an old laptop instead of throwing it away?
[11:53] <nicolagreco> without have access
[11:54] <CQ> nicolagreco: without access to what??
[11:54] <Incarus> joezromondo, me3nu.lst should be in /boot/grub/, not in /boot
[11:54] <nicolagreco> for example "ssh do this command"
[11:54]  * Ardorin 's uptime is about 20 minutes and my network card has already sent 18mb and recieved 7.
[11:54] <Incarus> joetromondo, me3nu.lst should be in /boot/grub/, not in /boot
[11:54] <Ardorin> I've only checked my email and chatted with you guys.
[11:54] <nicolagreco> without access in the remote server via ssh and print the command
[11:55] <joetromondo> Incarus: Well, my boot does not have a grub folder
[11:55] <nicolagreco> run a command in the remote server with 1 command in local
[11:55] <Incarus> Ardorin, are you sure with the 10kbps? where did you test it?
[11:55] <joetromondo> Incarus: From he synaptic installer, its intalles ok
[11:56] <nicolagreco> can someone help me ?
[11:56] <hi5> hi
[11:56] <Incarus> joetromondo, "grub-install"
[11:56] <hi5> me too
[11:56] <xukun> It takes a long time to start my nfs client when the server is not on. The client is then trying to connect is. Can I make this process go faster?
[11:56] <Ardorin> Incarus, I'm looking aht the graph the system monitor shows me.
[11:56] <Incarus> nicolagreco, ask in one line
[11:56] <hi5> hi, I'm trying to create a liveUSB
[11:56] <hi5> of Ubuntu Studio
[11:57] <Incarus> hi5, in one line
[11:57] <nicolagreco> is there a way to run 1 command in remote using 1 command without loggin in with ssh and type the command? So type 1 time a command
[11:57] <Incarus> Ardorin, are you sure that you look right?
[11:57] <hi5> Sorry! I'm trying to create a LiveUSB or make ubuntu run from an external  hard drive but each time I end up with many errors
[11:58] <nicolagreco> ops solved thanks!
[11:58] <Ardorin> Incarus, yeah, why?
[11:58] <hi5> anybody?
[11:58] <CQ> nicolagreco: read the manpage :)
[11:58] <sdf2> anybody have a clue why mic isn't working with pulseaudio?
[11:58] <Incarus> Ardorin, because ping looks fine
[11:59] <nicolagreco> CQ: that's the think i've just done :D
[11:59] <Incarus> sdf2, volume is down!?
[11:59] <hi5> i think its not able to find casper/vmlinuz
[11:59] <SafariAl> Is there a reason Ubuntu only recognizes 70% of my battery?
[11:59] <hi5> hello???
[11:59] <sdf2> Incarus: microphone is set to max?
[11:59] <SafariAl> (it's a brand new battery)
[11:59] <sdf2> Incarus: btw everything is working fine here, i just can't make the microphone work
[11:59] <hi5> i tried the exact same steps as: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:59] <Incarus> SafariAl, no
[12:00] <SafariAl> Incarus: what do you recommend I do?
[12:00] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: Thank you!!!!
[12:00] <SafariAl> right now I'm about to follow:
[12:00] <SafariAl> http://www.totalnetsolutions.net/2007/08/13/how-to-increase-battery-life-in-ubuntu-or-debian-linux/
[12:00] <hi5> hello?? Anybody..plz???
[12:00] <Incarus> sdf2, your microphone need also a driver, maybe you got a different microphone (or distri) at your laptop/desktop
[12:00] <frog_> hi, there are some system - spellcheckers in repository. which one is recommendedr? i 'd love to use it system wide(no matter in what application i acctually type)
[12:00] <Ardorin> Incarus, I'm not doing anything. My card is sending data at 13kpbs and my router is blinking a lot.
[12:00] <hi5> ?
[12:01] <frog_> i use nome btw
[12:01] <frog_> *gnome
[12:01] <sdf2> Incarus: where can i get any info ?
[12:01] <hi5> Is there a channel for Ubuntu Studio????
[12:01] <Incarus> SafariAl, i dont thik that that is a bug of ubuntu, i think its because of the battery
[12:02] <SafariAl> Hmm, that doesn't make sense, because other operating systems read the battery find
[12:02] <SafariAl> fine*
[12:02] <joetromondo> Hi I have a archlinux installed here, i need to chroot there, how do I do that?
[12:02] <Incarus> Ardorin, you could find out which data is sending over the router, or you could eject the cable (power) from the router for a minute
[12:02] <hi5> hellllooooooo, anybody???????????
[12:02] <Incarus> hi5, if nobody answer, nobody can help
[12:03] <xukun> I,m using pulseaudio but I have no sound when playing audio files, for movies I have sound
[12:03] <Incarus> sdf2, i dont know
[12:03] <hi5> Incarus, Are you sure?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: all better?
[12:03] <jmcs> hi5: #ubuntu-studio
[12:03] <hi5> thanks
[12:03] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: Yes! Just finished updating, hehe.
[12:03] <Ardorin> Incarus, How do I do the first thing? how would the second thing help me?
[12:04] <Incarus> hi5, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2008-December/036755.html
[12:04] <emretemp> well anyone using sony vaio VGN SR39VN laptop with ubuntu ? I just cant figure out why my function keys are not working.
[12:04] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: Still have to unplug it to boot, but that's something I can live with. Not having the internet is a real downer.
[12:05] <Incarus> Ardorin, dont know, with a program which shows the network traffic, and the 2. could be not a problem of your pc, or? it could be a problem of the router
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: true, maybe there will be a kernel patch soon, but i guess its a small price
[12:05] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:05] <Ardorin> Incarus, no, when I turn this pc off and work with my laptop everything is fine.
[12:05] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: Yeah, i can live with it. Any recommended way to install codecs? I need a ton of them...
[12:06] <silv3r_m00n> I am using cable internet .. can someone tell me how to hack it ?
[12:06] <maverick340> are there any good NLE video editors for linux , commercial  will do also
[12:06] <Incarus> emretemp, most of the function keys dont have a standard key function
[12:06] <sudhi> I use Samtron 56V monitor but after install not able to get the xserver going... It just hangs with black screen and a mouse pointer... please help
[12:06]  * Ardorin is going to get some breakfast, he'll be back in a little while.
[12:06] <maverick340> cinelerra and all are absolutely useless
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !medibunti | nalf
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu |nalf
[12:06] <Nalf> silv3r_m00n: We don't offer support for cable internet here, sorry.
[12:06] <emretemp> Incarus, well does that mean that I will never be able to use them  ?
[12:06] <maverick340> no decent effects .. :(
[12:06] <Incarus> Ardorin, and if you turn on the pc, other pcs got a slow internet connection?
[12:06] <silv3r_m00n> Nalf: any room you know of ?
[12:07] <maverick340> !video
[12:07] <mzuverink> I have a Sony Viao Laptop and when plugging in external speakers being headphone or what have you the laptop speakers continue to broadcast sound as well as the 3.5mm jack, any ideads on how I can make the laptop speakers recognize that a 3.5mm device is in use ond to then make the laptop speakers not work?  Google with out answers, thank you.
[12:07] <joep> Anybody here with virtualbox experience (ubuntu nonfree) and USB (will not see my IPAQ).
[12:07] <WebGuest1> Howdy all
[12:07] <Incarus> emremtemp, no, try somethin linke ctrl+F2 or alt+f4, so you could find out, if they are working
[12:08] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: Thanks again. Rebooting.
[12:08] <hamidlogis> hello
[12:08] <Incarus> mzuverink, you can run alsamixer and turn off pc speakers
[12:08] <hamidlogis> i have a problem with rar
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: np
[12:09] <WebGuest1> I am dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu. I mainly use Ubuntu, However I would like to have a seerate partition for my documents, to be shared between ubuntu and Windows.  What format would be best for this partition?
[12:09] <emretemp> Incarus, umm i as alking about the special "function" button on laptops for screen brightness or  LCD/Crt selection , volume management etc.
[12:09] <mzuverink> Incarus, I will give that a try, is that something I need to ad?
[12:09] <silv3r_m00n> what are the gui mysql clients available
[12:09] <emretemp> * i was talking about*
[12:09] <hamidlogis> i´ve downloaded a file splited in three part with winrar but i am in ubuntu
[12:09] <Incarus> mzuverink, no, just start in the console
[12:09] <Incarus> emretemp, k, no chance i think, you could update your system
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !rar | hamidlogis
[12:09] <mzuverink> Incarus, thank you very nuch
[12:09] <mzuverink> Much
[12:10] <Incarus> hamidlogis, you can start winrar in wine
[12:10] <emretemp> Incarus, "update" ? hmm i got the lastest ubuntu (8.10)
[12:10] <Incarus> mzuverink, np
[12:10] <hamidlogis> i can open the file but i cant extract
[12:10] <Incarus> emretemp, yes, but apt-get upgrade will install also later updates for your system
[12:10] <emretemp> Incarus, yup i am doing updates regularly. still no luck on those function keys.
[12:11] <Incarus> k
[12:11] <mzuverink> Incarus, that did not work, only master listed there, thanks though
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hamidlogis: unrar x <rar file>
[12:11] <Incarus> hamidlogis, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=672654
[12:12] <bent_> bj
[12:12] <Incarus> mzuverink, only master? wait a sec
[12:13] <sudhi> Is there a forum or article which helps debug monitor related issues when installing ubuntu? I am not able get my Samtron monitor working yet
[12:13] <Incarus> sudhi, is ubuntu allready installed?
[12:13] <sudhi> yes I installed it but not able to get it started
[12:14] <WebGuest1> I can't use any ext systems, because windows doesn't have brilliant compatability with them
[12:14] <sudhi> it hangs with a blank screen and a mouse pointer
[12:14] <WebGuest1> fat32 is pretty old
[12:14] <WebGuest1> which leads me to using NTFS, is this it best choice?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> sudhi: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded as well as verify the burned cd was ok on the first screen
[12:15] <emretemp> WebGuest1, u can use ntfs. Im using one of my partitions with that format. so far so good. running without any problem.
[12:15] <silv3r_m00n> hi there ... what command can I use to find the mac address of a lan machine whose ip is known ?
[12:15] <sudhi> yes verified
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> sudhi: boot to recovery root console (esc hen grub loads, select recovery mode, then select root). then when you are at console type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:15] <hamidlogis> thank you guys
[12:16] <Incarus> sudhi, start a live cd and mount the partition, there ubuntu is installed and edit in /mount/sdaX/etc/X11/xorg.conf by "device" the line "DRIVER" to "vesa", or add a line <<DRIVER   "vesa">> at Dervie section
[12:16] <sudhi> yes I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that gave only keyboard configuration related screens and not monitor related one's strange but that is what it gave
[12:16] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, now I broke X, yay!
[12:17] <Incarus> silv3r_m00n, "sudo ifconfig"
[12:17] <silv3r_m00n> Incarus: can I know a little more than that
[12:17] <emretemp> xorg file automatically backups, check /etc/X11 if there are older backups of xorg file
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: nice, looks like you will be having fun for a while
[12:17] <Incarus> silv3r_m00n, what?
[12:17] <emretemp> if so restore one of them
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, emretemp: I was going to do that and use a backup config file.
[12:18] <sudhi> ok thanks I will try that an get back ...
[12:18] <clueneeded> Running ubuntu 8.10.  I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01).   Goal: be able to have a choice of resolutions rather than the 640x480 installed by default.  Already tried to go to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - got the screen for the keyboard settings, then it went back to the command line.  Xserver...
[12:18] <Incarus> silv3r_m00n, oh, you want to look up the mac address of another computer?
[12:18] <clueneeded> ...did not bring up resolution adjustments.  The driver will not install at all, even from the command line.  Update Manager downloads 42 files, then does not list them and the "install updates" button is grayed out.  After some research, I am finding that the solution might be to to re-edit the xorg.conf file and specify resolution for vesa.  Questions: 1: is this true and 2: what exactly...
[12:18] <clueneeded> ...do I put in the xorg.conf file?
[12:18] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, emretemp: All I did was activate the fglrx.. or flgrx whatever it is.. proprietary driver for my ati cards and it broke.
[12:18] <FloodBot1> clueneeded: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:18] <silv3r_m00n> Incarus: yes
[12:19] <emretemp> if u used the driver comes within ubuntu, then u can deactive that
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !ati | nalf
[12:19] <Nalf> emretemp: Mind telling me how?
[12:19] <emretemp> from system/Administrotion/hardware drives  click here and select deactive
[12:19] <Incarus> clueneeded, 1. yes, 2. there are a lot of documentation about the xorg.conf in the internet
[12:19] <schnux> h
[12:20] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, I have a radeonhd, heh.. two actually.. and it's dvi not vga.
[12:20] <picca> anyone here find firefox in ubuntu is very sluggish and slow to respond to keyboard strokes - is this because of flash player ?
[12:20] <emretemp> if you want to remove flgrx driver try check /usr/share/ati there must be a sh file you can run to uninstall that
[12:20] <Incarus> clueneeded, you can install the updates with "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgarde"?
[12:20] <emretemp> if u install that via apt-get u can also remove that with apt-get remove flgrx
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: should be the same driver: if youu run: lspci | grep -i vga
[12:20] <Incarus> clueneeded, are you running jaunty?
[12:20] <clueneeded> Incarus:  i have tried that...  the updates will not install
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Nalf: you can see what you have and websearch that
[12:20] <clueneeded> incarus: 8.10
[12:21] <Nalf> ActionParsnip, okiedokie. Thanks. Will do.
[12:21] <Incarus> picca, just at flash pages
[12:21] <Nalf> Back into ubuntu for me!
[12:21] <picca> thanks Incarus - suppose nothing can be done about it other than disable flash
[12:21] <clueneeded> Incarus: i have a record of what happend when i tried to do the update in terminal
[12:22] <Ozzah> Hey all! I'm having a small problem. My laptop's HDMI output is working, but the image is overscanned on my samsung lcdtv. Using Nvidia and 8.10. Any ideas?
[12:22] <acicula> overscanned?
[12:22] <Incarus> picca, x86 or x64? you can install the noscript plugin, or something like that
[12:22] <clueneeded> tried editing xorg.conf to make it recognise i have an intel card... that caused ubuntu to barf and ask me to redo the configuration back a gain
[12:22] <Ozzah> I'm missing the top menu bar, bottom bar, and a bit off the left and right sides... The mouse disappears off the screen
[12:22] <sdf2> anybody have a clue or a guide, how to get a microphone work with pulseaudio?
[12:23] <sdf2> everything looks fine
[12:23] <sdf2> but now even gnome recorder freezes
[12:23] <{g}> Hey People! When I ssh somewhere, the name of my terminal stays "my@mymachine". How would you go about changing this?
[12:23] <picca> Incarus, x86 here ... ah will try that thanks
[12:23] <Incarus> picca, you can also try flash with opera
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> sdf2: is the mic usb or does it plug into a standard sound jack?
[12:24] <picca> Incarus, is it much faster in Opera?
[12:24] <napzter> hey, guys how can i connect to irc server
[12:24] <Incarus> picca, opera got a faster screen rendering then firefox, but i mean it could be a bug in firefox
[12:24] <sdf2> ActionParnsnip: standard sound jack
[12:24] <napzter> im using chat zilla
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> napzter: you've done it once to get here
[12:24] <picca> ah ok
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> sdf2: ok, is it muted in sound conf
[12:24] <LuD-up> Hi
[12:24] <weatherkid> Where is my /etc/xinetd.d? I don't know if it moved or what but please help me. Thanks in Advance!
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> sdf2: the fact that its a standard jack makes life a tonne easier
[12:25] <sdf2> ActionParnsnip: yes, but how can i check the conf?
[12:25] <Incarus> sdf2, k, goto alsamixer an check if it is muted (m)
[12:25] <Incarus> i have to go
[12:25] <Incarus> bye
[12:25] <sdf2> alsamixer?
[12:25] <LuD-up> Quelqu'un pour m'aider? :-'
[12:26] <LuD-up> !help
[12:26] <devon> i need help with the custom luncher.. why does it behave differently then the console on the same command?
[12:26] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr LuD-up
[12:26] <LuD-up> bazhang thx :)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> undancy is there
[12:27] <devon> ActionParsnip: im executing gedit ~/Projects/Test/src/*.cpp
[12:28] <devon> in console it runs ok
[12:28] <devon> but when i do the same in the custom luncher it doesnt
[12:28] <devon> what am i missing?
[12:28] <cypher1> isnt the network manager applet in intrepid supposed to find all of my networks automatically ?
[12:29] <clueneeded> I am starting to think that there is no solution to the resolution probelm
[12:29] <devon> help? anyone?
[12:29] <picca> is it possible to configure ufw to allow access by MAC address
[12:30] <k0rf> Hello everybody. I have tried to install several ubuntu derivatives on my laptop but after i have chosen Install Ubuntu in the boot menu the screen becomes corrupt and i cant read what it says. Anybody knows why this i happening? Someting with the graphics? Best regards.
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> devon: not sure, whats a custom launcher?
[12:30] <weatherkid> !/etc/xinetd.d
[12:30] <joetromondo> hi how do i pastebin?
[12:31] <weatherkid> ﻿! /etc/xinetd.d
[12:31] <devon> the one in ubuntu
[12:31] <devon> that you can add to Panel
[12:31] <jrib> !pastebin | joetromondo
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> k0rf: try some boot options
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | k0rf
[12:32] <k0rf> Thanks, i have tried the noacpi and all that stuff but no improvement
[12:33] <weatherkid> ﻿Where is /etc/xinetd.d in 8.04.2? Did someone move it or did I just not get one or what?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> k0rf: try nodma
[12:34] <cypher1> weatherkid,  try whereis xinetd
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> k0rf: maybe you could make the bootup not show splash so you can see the bootup
[12:34]  * weatherkid smacks himself for just doing that with another app
[12:34] <weatherkid> ty
[12:35] <k0rf> ActionParsnip: yes is that the VGA=771 command??
[12:36] <cypher1> weatherkid, you are welcome
[12:36] <weatherkid> cypher1: its not telling me it is just saying xinetd:
[12:36] <weatherkid> which is kinda shocking for whereis
[12:37] <clueneeded> OK... I think i will change the question.  I understand that 915resolution is something i should install.  when i look for it in synaptic, it does not get it or install it.  What is another way to install 915resolution?
[12:37] <cypher1> weatherkid, do you have xinetd installed
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> k0rf: remove the word splash from /boot/grub/menu.list for your kernel
[12:37] <weatherkid> let me pull up synaptic
[12:37] <clueneeded> never mind... found sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[12:37] <Ardorin> Incarus, no becuase it only uses 10kpbs, i have a pretty fast connection.
[12:38] <Silkjc> Is there any way I can see the codecs installed by Rhythmbox?
[12:38] <weatherkid> cypher1: nope
[12:38] <weatherkid> im going to install it
[12:38] <osubuck_> can someone tell me what the state of linux will be if this happens http://www.videolan.org/press/patents.html
[12:38] <k0rf> ActionParsnip: i think it worked when i added vga=771 efter the --- in the advanced options.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> k0rf: whatever gets rid of the image so you can watch boot messages
[12:39] <clueneeded> NOW we are getting somewhere...   sudo apt-get install 915resolution    E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable  E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:39] <clueneeded> how to get past that
[12:39] <weatherkid> clueneeded: did you type in the right sudo passwd?
[12:40] <k0rf> ActionParsnip: thank you for your help! :)
[12:40] <clueneeded> yup
[12:40] <weatherkid> sounds like a sudo error to me
[12:40] <weatherkid> when did you last install something
[12:41] <clueneeded> weatherkid: just updates... i have been trying to install some sort of intel driver for days now
[12:41] <weatherkid> 'cause if apt or dpkg is still in use it will give you that error
[12:41] <DizzyDoo> Hi, trying to change my Ubuntu server box from a DHCP setting to a Static IP. I've tried the various tutorials found via google, but none of them seem to work. Could someone walk me through what to do?
[12:41] <sjokkis> hi. i get a grub error 2 immediately as grub tries to start. after "Grub loading, please wait...", and before the usual "Stage 1.5 loaded" (or whatever it is)
[12:41] <sjokkis> it's with a completely fresh install of ubuntu from a memory stick. the box has both IDE and SATA drives (through a controller card)
[12:41] <weatherkid> so you need to kill the update if you want to install this
[12:41] <LurkersA> ~clueneeded, is there another package utility open? Is the update icon showing updates? Synaptic Open? Add/remove open?
[12:41] <acicula> DizzyDoo: via gui or manual?
[12:42] <DizzyDoo> Acicula: Manually, I think (I'm new to this Ubuntu stuff) done via command line, right?
[12:42] <Padhu> anybody help me to configure mac appearence in ubuntu
[12:42] <TABASCO> Hi
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> sjokkis: all drives have IDE ;)
[12:42] <clueneeded> lurkers: ah, that's it... synaptic was open
[12:42] <clueneeded> lets try again...
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> !grub | sjokkis
[12:43] <TABASCO> How can I change the password so that all the sudo and gsku stuff also has the new password and not only the login screen?
[12:43] <sjokkis> ActionParsnip: sorry, that was a foul up. it has both PATA and SATA drives
[12:43] <clueneeded> Package 915resolution is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:43] <perlmonkey> installed Ubuntu 8.04 got no audio. using C-media sound card. ideas?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> TABASCO: if you change your password then your sudo / gksudo will also change as its the same thing
[12:43] <acicula> DizzyDoo: set in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:43] <LurkersA> clueneeded, but you aren't getting locked out anymore?
[12:43] <clueneeded> no
[12:44] <LurkersA> perlmonkey, is it intermittant, or just not working?
[12:44] <perlmonkey> no sound at all on any application, worked fine in previous Ubuntu versions
[12:44] <acicula> DizzyDoo: actually maybe you can use a command line configurator, but i wouldnt know which one
[12:44] <LurkersA> clueneeded, Thats one problem solved then :) Not sure about the rest though :)
[12:44] <DizzyDoo> acicula: That's where I've been editing, but what should I type? I've tried a few variations with my own static IP, but it doesn't seem to work
[12:44] <weatherkid> ty everyone! This is one of my favorite channels on Freenode
[12:44] <sudhi> Thanks for the help I am now able to work on ubuntu ... driver "vesa" helped to get my samtron working
[12:45] <caio> brasero cant burn dvd videos?
[12:45] <sjokkis> ActionParsnip: having the PATA drive ubuntu is on plugged in seems to prevent me from booting from my usb stick (with the ubuntu image). so it's kinda hard to do anything here really
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> sjokkis: if you change the attatched drives, the disk numbering will change
[12:45] <perlmonkey> always something, fix one thing something crops up :-/
[12:45] <Lieserl> hi, i am a beginner in linux stuff and i have a problem
[12:46] <acicula> DizzyDoo: tried man interfaces ?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> ask the rool Lieserl it will respond if it can help
[12:46] <DizzyDoo> acicula: No idea what that is, I'm afraid
[12:46] <Lieserl> i have just installed ubuntu 8.10, and when i`m trying to watch a video (with any program) it's crashes
[12:46] <sjokkis> ActionParsnip: well, yes. i'm pretty sure grub is looking at the wrong drive. it's probably ordering the SATA and PATA drives the wrong way or something
[12:46] <sjokkis> but i can't even get a grub prompt, so i'm not sure how to fix it
[12:47] <vjacob> what's the fastest and easiest way to transfer very big files from one Mac OS X computer to a Linux computer?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> sjokkis: then try some different disk numbers to see what you get
[12:47] <sjokkis> i can't boot from my usb stick with the installation image either
[12:47]  * Nalf kicks X.
[12:47] <acicula> DizzyDoo: the manual explaining interfaces, but are you sure you cant use a gui to configure stuff for you?
[12:47] <sjokkis> ActionParsnip: how do you expect me to do that when i can't get a grub prompt?
[12:47] <Lieserl> x11 video output error: X11 request 140.19 failed with error code 11:
[12:47] <Lieserl>  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[12:47] <DizzyDoo> acicula: No, this is just a fresh Ubuntu Server installation
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> vjacob: share the linux dir with samba then copy from the mac, or share on the mac and copy with linux
[12:47] <Slart> vjacob: removable hard drive..
[12:48] <sjokkis> ActionParsnip: i have no way to configure grub here
[12:48] <acicula> DizzyDoo: well type man interfaces at the console, that explains the format of interfaces
[12:48] <Slart> vjacob: if you want to do it over a network... perhaps ftp? shouldn't be too hard to setup an ftp server on the linux box
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> sjokkis: live cd, mount your partition with /boot on it (?)
[12:48]  * mneptok blinks
[12:48] <clueneeded> I have found the 915resolution file, extracted it with archive manager into a folder called "915resolution" in Documents.  What is the correct command to make it install?
[12:49] <mneptok> Slart: sftp is far safer, and far easier to set up
[12:49] <mneptok> vjacob: and SFTP is your answer
[12:49] <clueneeded> actually 915resolution-0.5.3
[12:49] <Lieserl> any help for me, please? i have google-it but i can'd find out what to do
[12:49] <Slart> mneptok: agree that it's safer.. but.. is it easier than ftp?
[12:50] <mneptok> Slart: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:50] <mneptok> Slart: done.
[12:50] <damaltor> hey everybody. does anyone know about the "raptor gaming mouse M3 Platinum", if it is working nicely with linux??
[12:50] <jacek> Hey everyone!!
[12:50] <Slart> mneptok: ah.. that ... does indeed look very easy... sounds like even I could do that =)
[12:50] <Snicks|TWw> i got a little question: i'm looking in my system-monitor, looking at the memory maps; what does heap mean? it got a lot of 'private dirty' in firefox, i suppose it will be used well, but just wondering what it is ;)
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Lieserl: from root recovery console run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <vjacob> thanks, I don't have one. The quickest for me was: Turn on ftp in Mac OS X and use built-in gFTP to transfer :)
[12:51] <mneptok> Slart: *i* can do it befoee morning coffee. if that's possible, i have stuff growing on my shower curtain that could do it. ;)
[12:51] <devon> hey i need help creating a custom app launcher
[12:51] <Slart> mneptok: :D
[12:51] <sjokkis> ActionParsnip: yeah. i guess i'll have to find a cd-player somewhere. thanks
[12:51] <clueneeded> I have found the 915resolution file, extracted it with archive manager into a folder called "915resolution-0.5.3" in Documents. What is the correct command to make it install?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> sjokkis: or boot fro a cd key with a live cd on it
[12:52] <Lieserl> ActionParsnip: what's the root recovery console?
[12:52] <mneptok> Slart: OSX has an ssh server by default. you just have to toggle it on via a GUI to use it.
[12:52] <eMaX> hi all,
[12:52] <Snicks|TWw> devon, rightclick your panel, click: add to panel, custom application launcher and should be done ;)
[12:52] <sjokkis> ActionParsnip: i've been trying that
[12:52] <sjokkis> no joy
[12:53] <eMaX> when I add a memorystick to my laptop, fspot opens automatically. Can I change that in favor of another application?
[12:53] <devon> Snicks|TWw: yeah the problem is the commend im entering doesnt work..
[12:53] <Cheery> hi, I'd need to find out 32bit version of libgtk-1.2.so.0 for my 64bit machine, anyone knows where to get that from?
[12:53] <devon> Desktop$ gedit /home/kostia/Projects/Franco/src/*.cpp
[12:53] <mneptok> eMaX: i assume this is flash memory with photos on it?
[12:53] <eMaX> yes
[12:53] <Slart> Cheery: packages.ubuntu.com might be one place
[12:53] <mneptok> eMaX: /query ?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Cheery: you need a 32bit version of libgtk1.2
[12:54] <Snicks|TWw> at least you shouldn't add the Desktop$ devon
[12:54] <devon> i dont
[12:54] <devon> i copyed that by mistake
[12:54] <Snicks|TWw> ah, all right :)
[12:54] <devon> gedit /home/kostia/Projects/Franco/src/*.cpp
[12:54] <devon> but it opens *.cpp instead of all the cpp files
[12:54] <Snicks|TWw> devon, if you do that in terminal, it works all right?
[12:55] <devon> yup
[12:55] <platius> clueneeded;  I found the 915resolution in synaptics package manager
[12:55] <Cheery> ActionParsnip: how to get that?
[12:55] <clueneeded> platius: when i go to synaptics and type in 915resolution, there is no response
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> devon: cd ~/Projects/Franco/src; for for i in *.cpp; do gedit $i
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Cheery: head to the packages site on ubuntu and manually download the package then install it
[12:56] <platius> clueneeded; let me check what repo it is in   I am in hardy
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Cheery: this may break your system, so its your own risk
[12:57] <clueneeded> i am in intreped
[12:57] <Cheery> can I scavenge the package to get the lib?
[12:57] <devon> failed to execute child "cd"
[12:57] <jrib> devon: you're original command should be working.  Pastebin the entire terminal session
[12:57] <jrib> your even
[12:57] <platius> clueneeded; I'll boot into intrepid and see if it is there, one sec
[12:57] <mrglinux> my sound doesn't work . I don't like restart my linux ... how can I reset this hardare?
[12:57] <devon> jrib: it works in terminal
[12:57] <mrglinux> **hardware
[12:58] <devon> im trying to use it in a luncher
[12:58] <clueneeded> ok
[12:58] <sdf2> anybody have a clue how to make mic work with pulseaudio?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> devon: ok then get your pwd in terminal to where the cpp files are and run: for for i in *.cpp; do gedit $i
[12:59] <devon> what?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> oops
[12:59] <itona> Hi world, how may I change the behavior of the console so that i can autocomplete commands with <TAB> instead of <Ctrl-R>
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> for for i in *.cpp; do gedit $i; done
[12:59] <mrglinux> ?
[12:59] <mrglinux> how can I?
[12:59] <itona> Yes.. may -> can
[13:00] <sdf2> !pulseaudio
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> devon: use the command   cd  to change the directory your  terminal is pointing to
[13:00] <jrib> devon: right.  weird that you are writing a launcher like that.  Anyway, write a shell script and launch that script instead
[13:00] <devon> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `i'
[13:00] <Slart> itona: hmm.. it 's tab by default for me.. what version are you running?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> devon: for i in *.cpp; do gedit $i; done
[13:01] <devon> jrib: how do i write a shell script?
[13:01] <CQ> I have apache set up and working, how can I get https:// set up? any good HOWTOS?
[13:01] <devon> .sh?
[13:01] <perlmonkey> ﻿drwsr-sr-x <-- my home folder has changed permissions. is the "s" instead of "x" likely to cause problems?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> devon: file extensions mean very little in linux
[13:01] <jrib> devon: put the commands in a text file, make the first line "#!/bin/bash"
[13:01] <itona> Slart:  8.10
[13:01] <perlmonkey> Ubuntu 8.04, no audio (in any application) worked fine in previous versions.. any ideas? Using C-Media card
[13:01] <Lieserl> ActionParsnip: i`ve got the same error ...
[13:01] <platius> clueneeded; when I search for 915 in intrepid it returns an xserver for intel video.   Perhaps that is all you need?
[13:01] <Slart> itona: and tab doesn't autocomplete for you?
[13:02] <itona> Slart: no...
[13:02] <Lieserl> ActionParsnip : it did't work
[13:02] <Slart> itona: ctrl+r does reverse search for me
[13:02] <itona> for me as wll
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Lieserl: did you rest xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> *reset
[13:02] <Lieserl> yes
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ok
[13:02] <clueneeded> platius:  when i try to use xserver, all it does is give me screens for configuruing the keyboaard, never gets to any video configuratrion screeens
[13:02] <devon> ok another problem
[13:02] <devon> i have wine installed
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Lieserl: then if you run: lspci | grep -i vga   what does it output
[13:03] <itona> Slart: sorry... I want up/down for browsing commands that begin with the letters already typed in the console
[13:03] <devon> so wine tryes to execute the script
[13:03] <devon> how do i make it execute without wine?
[13:03] <jrib> devon: provide more details...
[13:03] <Lieserl> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[13:04] <gohmifune> is there a command to make the graphical interface start when you are stuck in the text-only login?
[13:04] <Slart> itona: ahhh.. ok.. I don't know about that.. there is probably a way though..
[13:04] <jrib> gohmifune: sudo service gdm start
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> devon: should sort you out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414194
[13:04] <devon> jrib: wine tryes to lunch the script.. and it says no "no windows program.."
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> devon: is the script a linux shell script or something else?
[13:04] <clueneeded> wait a minute...  i looked for "intel" in synaptic and it gave me some xserver thing... I am installing it to see what happens
[13:04] <devon> shell
[13:05] <jrib> devon: wine tries to launch the script by itself randomly?  Or do you do something?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> devon: then it doesnt need wine, shell scripts run with the linux shell
[13:05] <gohmifune> jrib: what happens then? am I taken to the login screen?
[13:05] <jrib> gohmifune: yes
[13:05] <jrib> gohmifune: though I'm not sure what you mean by "stuck in the text-only login".  How did you get stuck?
[13:06] <devon> ActionParsnip, jrib: as soon as i make a new sh, it makes it a wine file
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> devon: in terminal, cd to where the script is and run:  sh ./<script name>
[13:06] <Lieserl> ActionParsnip  : 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[13:06] <tk3> hi all - rythmbox seems to have disappeared for me - nothing shows up with an apt-get or a search, other packages work fine - what gives?
[13:06] <gohmifune> jrib: login goes directly to the text-only login screen
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> devon: then remove the file extension, its not necesssary
[13:06] <devon> ActionParsnip: even without the extention
[13:06] <jrib> gohmifune: why?  because you didn't install the desktop version or ...?
[13:07] <devon> just by adding #!/bin/bash
[13:07] <tavish> my sound is not working wherever gstreamer is involved, everything required is installed
[13:07] <jrib> devon: what is "it" in your sentence?
[13:07] <devon> to the file it makes it a wine file
[13:07] <clueneeded> maybe if I run xserver it will give me the video screens now
[13:07] <gohmifune> jrib: it just happened in between reboots
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> devon: then run it from terminal with sh ./<scriptname>
[13:07] <gohmifune> jrib: overnight
[13:07] <clueneeded> (trying to find running xserver command..._
[13:07] <devon> but i want to be able to run it without terminal...
[13:07] <jrib> gohmifune: no idea why?
[13:07] <jrib> devon: see if it works in the terminal first
[13:07] <devon> that the whole idea..
[13:07] <gohmifune> jrib: none
[13:07] <devon> ok
[13:07] <Cheery> hmm.. ok, now I need libgmodule-1.2.so.0
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> devon: its just to test
[13:07] <Cheery> where to find that from?
[13:08] <jrib> gohmifune: well what does the command I gave you do?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> devon: you may need to right click the script to make it run in terminal but will be launched with mouse
[13:08] <gohmifune> jrib: haven't tried it yet, I'll have to log off, dual boot. BRB
[13:08] <jrib> gohmifune: ok
[13:08] <devon> ok runs fine in terminal
[13:08] <jrib> devon: make the file executable
[13:09] <devon> jrib: it is, through wine..
[13:09] <siropio> hello i would like to download DONALD KNUTH'S serie "The Art of Computer Programing" a link please???
[13:09] <jrib> devon: no.  Give the file executable permissions is what I mean
[13:09] <devon> how?
[13:09] <jrib> siropio: offtopic and illegal.  Buy the book or go to your library
[13:09] <Malacius> http://paveiksliukai.net/images/129_snapshot6.jpg
[13:09] <Malacius> Error !!
[13:10] <jrib> devon: chmod +x /path/to/file
[13:10] <devon> ok i think i got it
[13:10] <siropio> ok
[13:10] <jrib> Malacius: vlc is in the repositories
[13:10] <devon> at last!!
[13:10] <devon> thanks jrib and ActionParsnip :D:D
[13:10] <Malacius> wait ...
[13:11] <Lieserl> any ideas for me? please :-)
[13:11] <platius> clueneeded; http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/  here is the 915 homepage, best I can do
[13:11] <jrib> !helpme | Lieserl
[13:11] <b1n42y> is it normal for firefox to use 413 mb for 100 tabs ?
[13:12] <Malacius> http://paveiksliukai.net/images/213_snapshot3.jpg
[13:12] <Malacius> ???
[13:12] <jrib> b1n42y: I imagine that depends on what is in the tabs
[13:12] <jamil_1> title bar of all my windows has disappeared
[13:12] <stefan_can> b1n42y, I suppose so
[13:12] <Malacius> not this :/ :D
[13:12] <stefan_can> try loading google 100 times
[13:12] <Malacius> wait
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> devon: np man
[13:13] <Snicks|TWw> 22 tabs: around 120MB
[13:13] <platius> clueneeded; there is info on how to use the xserver there
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Snicks|TWw: sounds like firefox
[13:13] <b1n42y> jrib: i have adblock so some ads i guess of those a few flash...ah ok thanks guys/girls
[13:13] <Snicks|TWw> that's right, ActionParsnip ;) i said this to b1n42y :)
[13:13] <Malacius> http://paveiksliukai.net/images/917_snapshot4.jpg
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Snicks|TWw: firefox is overrated imho
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> its good, but not THAT good
[13:14] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: what do you use again, midori?
[13:14] <Malacius> download files, but don't install it
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: opera
[13:14] <Snicks|TWw> i know, opera works better, ActionParsnip :)
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Snicks|TWw: i got firefox ok by apt-building it with high optomisation
[13:15] <jrib> Malacius: this is on an upgrade?
[13:15]  * b1n42y cringes, most popular employment web site doesnt work well with it, www.seek.com.au
[13:15] <Malacius> yes
[13:15] <tavish> http://codepad.org/1hDYBwx0 , i have installed the gstreamer plugins, still i get this
[13:15] <jrib> !who | Malacius
[13:15] <jrib> Malacius: run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade » in a terminal and pastebin the command and output
[13:16] <Malacius> OK
[13:16] <gohmifune> jrib: display manager is already running, is there a way to switch to it?
[13:17] <jrib> gohmifune: ctrl-alt-f7
[13:17] <jamil_1> Title bar of my all windows has disappeared. I cant minimize them nor can I change focus to any other application except the top most one. Any help ?
[13:17] <jamil_1> i have recently uninstalled compiz
[13:17] <gohmifune> jrib: that's it?
[13:17] <gohmifune> jrib: what happens after that?
[13:18] <jrib> gohmifune: well you should see the login screen if gdm is running...
[13:18] <jrib> !pastebin > Malacius
[13:18] <gohmifune> jrib: ok, I'll give it a try
[13:18] <Lieserl> http://pastebin.com/d6f4da9ab
[13:19] <clueneeded> dumb easy question for ya: how to start xserver
[13:19] <jrib> clueneeded: is it installed?
[13:19] <Lieserl> clueneeded: xstart
[13:20] <sdf2> how to make microphone work with pulseaudio?
[13:20] <clueneeded> bash: xstart: command not found
[13:20] <jamil_1> tttttttttttt
[13:21] <Lieserl> clueneeded : startx
[13:21] <vieq> hello all, can I add new file system to /etc/fstab with out the UUID?
[13:21] <jrib> vieq: yes
[13:21] <jamil_1>  Title bar of my all windows has disappeared. I cant minimize them nor can I change focus to any other application except the top most one. Any help ?
[13:21] <clueneeded> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting
[13:21] <vieq> k so why the default istall uses UUID in fstab?
[13:21] <clueneeded> i am the admin
[13:22] <jrib> jamil_1: system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none
[13:22] <TuGa> hello ppl
[13:22] <jrib> clueneeded: did you see my question?
[13:22] <sjokkis> argh. fuck. why can't i boot from the alternative cd?
[13:22] <jrib> !language | sjokkis
[13:23] <vieq> jrib:
[13:23] <clueneeded> jrib: i don't know how to check whether something is installed in ubuntu... but i do know that i dealt wiuth xserver before because i was cursing at it for not giving me video configuration screens, just keyboard
[13:23] <keeley> hello... I have a problem, I install ubuntu-server I connecting with ubuntu desktop with putty all right, but when i launch command "startx" I read a error: "user not authorized to run the X server" I can fix this?
[13:23] <TuGa> i'm need to change my X screen resolution how can i do that?
[13:24] <jrib> clueneeded: well the point is: X should start by default if you've installed the desktop.  So either you have stopped it from starting or something is broken.  Why isn't X starting?
[13:24] <damaltor> hey everybody. does anyone know about the "raptor gaming mouse M3 Platinum", if it is working nicely with linux??
[13:24] <Cheery> uuf
[13:24] <jrib> TuGa: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[13:24] <Cheery> got linux release of N working. :)
[13:24] <Dillizar> how can i change the sudo password but not the log in password
[13:24] <noren> hi there can any one tell me the diff between normal cd and the alternate cd download which one should i download
[13:24] <sdf2> anybody have any clue how to make mic work with pulseaudio?
[13:24] <TuGa> thks jrib
[13:24] <Cheery> that was damn old
[13:24] <clueneeded> jrib: ok...  i think that i am being an idiot here...  :)  I need xserver configuration screen
[13:24] <jrib> noren: use the desktop cd (the alternate is a text-based install)
[13:24] <jamil_1> jrib:  that is already set to none
[13:25] <jrib> jamil_1: metacity --replace
[13:25] <jrib> clueneeded: "xserver configuration screen" has no meaning to me
[13:25] <keeley> to jrib, if I try to launch startx with server gnome run well, but if I launch startx with openssh it don't start
[13:25] <clueneeded> I understand that there is some sort of configuration screen that lets you add video resolutions
[13:25] <TuGa> ok but my screem resolution it doesnt apper i want 1920 x 1200
[13:25] <jrib> keeley: yes... Do you want vnc?
[13:26] <sjokkis> jrib: that isn't helpful
[13:26] <jrib> !fixres | TuGa
[13:26] <clueneeded> and the one under preferences does not work
[13:26] <TuGa> thk ubottu
[13:26] <jrib> sjokkis: it is.  Making you aware of the rules of this channel keeps you unbanned and able to get help :)
[13:26] <keeley> to jrib, i don't want use VNC because sometime I wan't load a X
[13:26] <jamil_1> jrib: thanks man it is now Ok.   But why wasn't working in the first place
[13:26] <clueneeded> there is one i have broght up before that had me configure the keyboard first - and it was supposed to bring up the video resulution screens too,
[13:27] <Dillizar> !sudo
[13:27] <jrib> jamil_1: I don't know.  See if it still works if you logout and back in
[13:27] <jrib> keeley: what?
[13:27] <jrib> jamil_1: you can start specific X apps over ssh if you want.  But if you want to run full blown X, then use vnc
[13:28] <C-S-B> !gksu
[13:28] <jrib> keeley: you can start specific X apps over ssh if you want.  But if you want to run full blown X, then use vnc
[13:28] <tavish> please see this http://codepad.org/1hDYBwx0
[13:28] <clueneeded> xorgcfg... geez...
[13:28] <clueneeded> now to figure THAT out...
[13:28] <Dillizar> how can i change the sudo password but not the log in password
[13:28] <keeley> to jrib, ok What i doing to start specific x apps over ssh?
[13:29] <jrib> !fixres | clueneeded
[13:29] <jrib> !who | clueneeded
[13:29] <jrib> keeley: connect with "ssh -X"
[13:29] <DizzyDoo> Hi, when I type my IP address into a webbrowser, I expect to see the Apache welcome message, however my router seems to intercept that some how and asks me to log in to the router control panel. Any hints?
[13:29] <DizzyDoo> (server running Ubuntu Server)
[13:30] <jamil_1> jrib: after log off, it was again without title bars.
[13:30] <hampster> Hi, I have setup my own minimal ubuntu (text-based), I would like to turn it into an ISO for distribution, how could I do this, thank you.
[13:31] <jrib> !remaster | hampster
[13:31] <sdf2> how to setp mic with pulseaudio?
[13:31] <jrib> jamil_1: you'll probably have to find the gconf key for the window managery and make sure metacity is getting used (this is what should happen with "none" visual effects)
[13:32] <perlmonkey> hi
[13:32] <keeley> to jrib, i use putty on ubuntu, but in terminal what is the command : "ssh -X ...?" my server is 192.168.3.4:22
[13:32] <hampster> I thought remaster was for doing ubuntu with GUI ?
[13:32] <jrib> keeley: ssh -X user@host
[13:32] <Dillizar> how can i change the root password
[13:32] <keeley> thanks ;)
[13:32] <sjokkis> jrib: okay. so using the alternative cd i've managed to start a shell on the drive with ubuntu installed. however, when i try to open a grub prompt it doesn't recognize the terminal (bterm). what to do?
[13:32] <jrib> !root | Dillizar
[13:32] <jamil_1> jrib: Where can i find it ?
[13:32] <perlmonkey> ﻿drwsr-sr-x <-- my home folder has changed permissions. is the "s" instead of "x" likely to cause problems?
[13:33] <jrib> jamil_1: gconf-editor
[13:33] <jrib> perlmonkey: not really.  Do you understand what it does?
[13:33] <platius> clueneeded; http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/  here is the 915 homepage, best I can do
[13:33] <Dillizar> jrib, ok then how can i change the sudo password
[13:33] <jrib> Dillizar: it's your user's password
[13:33] <platius> clueneeded; there is info on how to use the xserver there
[13:33] <perlmonkey> ﻿installed Ubuntu 8.04 got no audio. using C-media sound card. ideas?
[13:33] <cypher1> can anyone tell me a good usb tv receiver that i can use with ubuntu ?
[13:33] <perlmonkey> jrib: no clue
[13:33] <Dillizar> jrib, i know that but can i change just the sudo and not the user's log in password
[13:34] <jrib> perlmonkey: setgid on a directory will just cause files created under that directory to have the same group
[13:34] <jrib> Dillizar: why would you want to do that?
[13:34] <keeley> to jrib i launch "ssh -X xxx@xxx" and work... but when I try to launch "startx" > "X: user not authorized to run the x server... xinit: Server error"
[13:35] <Silkjc> ALSA = snap crackle and pop
[13:35] <jrib> keeley: erm, didn't we discuss this already?
[13:35] <Dillizar> jrib, cuz i can let my sister use the pc! but she is installing some programs i dont want to install and she can f*** up my pc
[13:35] <jrib> Dillizar: create an account for her without sudo privileges
[13:36] <Dillizar> jrib, that will make my ubuntu run slower
[13:36] <jrib> Dillizar: no it won't
[13:36] <Dillizar> jrib, hmm its not possible to change just the sudo pass
[13:37] <jrib> Dillizar: you can read "man sudoers" if you wish, but I recommend you just create an account for her
[13:38] <Dillizar> where can i read that :) jrib
[13:38] <perlmonkey> jrib: oh i see
[13:38] <Photoguy> Where is a good Linux in general channel?
[13:38] <jrib> Dillizar: you type "man sudoers" in a terminal
[13:38] <jrib> !offtopic | Photoguy
[13:38] <Dillizar> merci jrib
[13:39] <Photoguy> I'm just asking a simple question.
[13:39] <Photoguy> :P
[13:39] <perlmonkey> jrib: do you know how can I set the permissions back to ﻿drwxr-xr-x?
[13:39] <jrib> Photoguy: #ubuntu-offtopic is the answer to your question :)
[13:39] <gohmifune> jrib: I get a blinking underscore when I press cntrl+alt+f7
[13:39] <jrib> perlmonkey: chmod g-s ~
[13:39] <chrissyRO> I have connected a firewire webcam. How do I get it to work
[13:40] <jrib> gohmifune: stop gdm and start it again and see if you get any output
[13:40] <perlmonkey> jrib: many thanks, it eluded me
[13:40] <Dillizar> jrib, will the other account share the same "home"
[13:40] <gohmifune> jrib: tried that
[13:40] <jrib> Dillizar: no, but she can read all of the files by default
[13:40] <BigMama> hi
[13:40] <gohmifune> jrib: nothing
[13:40] <yossarian> heyho
[13:40] <jrib> gohmifune: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:40] <yossarian> does anyone know if the mixer that opensuse uses can be used in ubuntu?
[13:41] <jrib> gohmifune: throw in /etc/X11/xorg.conf too.  And try ctrl-alt-f8 and 9 and see if anything is there
[13:41] <yossarian> i really liked that in opensuse because you could move audiostreams from the mixer
[13:41] <perlmonkey> I got no sound
[13:41] <quibbler> Dillizar: it can if you want that
[13:42] <perlmonkey> does anyone know why the search button on the search engine toolbar doesn't work in FF in 8.04?
[13:42] <perlmonkey> sound doesn't work in 8.04 with C-media soundcard
[13:43] <mib_y5s7nuiq> HI all, I'm hoping for some fairly newbie install advice.  I have anetbook with a 4 gig and a 16 gig drive - what's my best install option in terms of partitioning?
[13:43] <yossarian> or is there a way in ubuntu to switch between soundcards?
[13:43] <mib_y5s7nuiq> i have stuck it on the 4 but i keep running out of space
[13:43] <mib_y5s7nuiq> can i "map" some of the significant folders to the 16?
[13:44] <mib_y5s7nuiq> (I'm totally clueless as to what the user folders in Ubuntu are)
[13:44] <perlmonkey> ﻿mib_y5s7nuiq: use 16 for the main root and home, and mount the 4GB for swap and other minor directories?
[13:44] <gabriel> in gnome, is there any way to change the task bar apparance, making it shiny and nice like in kde? can themes do that?
[13:44] <mib_y5s7nuiq> do i need the whole 4 for swap?
[13:44] <chrissyRO> Where do I start to make my webcam work? It is firewire.
[13:45] <LSD200> mib_y5s7nuiq: is this a set in stone 4GB and 16GB or could you re-do the partitioning completely on install and let ubuntu decide what to do?
[13:45] <mib_y5s7nuiq> no - seems to be 2 separate drives for some reason
[13:45] <perlmonkey> ﻿mib_y5s7nuiq﻿mib_y5s7nuiq: no only around 500MB but depends on how much Ram you got
[13:45] <mib_y5s7nuiq> think a gig of ram
[13:45] <mib_y5s7nuiq> maybe 512
[13:46] <DizzyDoo> Hiya, Python and Ubuntu Linux question; is there a way to run a python script continuously in the background of Ubuntu Server? I've written a small program to record stats like CPU temperature and stuffs, and I'd like to run it quietly for a few days.
[13:46] <mib_y5s7nuiq> system monitor on live says 1gb
[13:46] <sdf2> google failed
[13:46] <jrib> DizzyDoo: sure, just run it
[13:46] <gte351s> hi all - can anyone tell me how to get evolution to minimize into the deskbar panel?
[13:46] <jrib> DizzyDoo: maybe you are asking for something like screen?
[13:46] <jrib> !screen | DizzyDoo
[13:47] <dennda> DizzyDoo: yourscript &disown
[13:47] <sdf2> now anybody can actually give me info about how to make a friggin mic work with pulseaudio?
[13:47] <perlmonkey> :-/
[13:47] <nomasteryoda> !cheese | chrissyRO
[13:47] <nomasteryoda> lol
[13:47] <b1n42y> !cheeze
[13:47] <b1n42y> i knwo theres a chhheeese
[13:48] <nomasteryoda> chrissyRO, from a terminal type "sudo apt-get install cheese"
[13:48] <gohmifune> jrib: http://gohmifune.pastebin.com/m65f5b1ab
[13:48] <nomasteryoda> and run cheese to see what you get with the cam
[13:48] <perlmonkey> ﻿mib_y5s7nuiq: another way to do it might be to use 4GB as the main root filesystem if you're running a tight ship/minimum install, and then use 16GB mounted as home if you need a lot of personal file storage.. but perhaps using 16GB as the main drive is a better option to prevent running out of space on upgrades etc
[13:48] <gohmifune> jrib: http://gohmifune.pastebin.com/m1396e09b
[13:48]  * nomasteryoda is outtahere
[13:48] <sdf2> I need info about how to make a friggin mic work with pulseaudio
[13:49] <mib_y5s7nuiq> thanks pmonkey - will try it that way
[13:49] <chrissyRO> Cheese will make it work with messenger and skype?I will try that nomasteryoda.
[13:49] <nomasteryoda> chrissyRO, it will tell you if it is detected properly
[13:50] <perlmonkey> ﻿mib_y5s7nuiq: I would do the guided partitioning on install and let Ubuntu decide how much swap etc you need, then just use the 4GB free space on spare drive to save space on 16GB by mounting it as whatever folder(s) you think could be stored on it, you don't need to decide that at the time of installation
[13:50] <razer> hiho
[13:50] <LeonWP> hi
[13:50] <mib_y5s7nuiq> thanks PMonkey
[13:50] <razer> is it  posible to change the maximum sound output level?
[13:50] <mib_y5s7nuiq> i'm doing that right now :D
[13:50] <Reenen> how can I stop and start my audio?
[13:50] <razer> its way to low by default
[13:51] <perlmonkey> i hate it when they change things (asla~pulse)
[13:51] <perlmonkey> *alsa
[13:51] <nomasteryoda> chrissyRO, and since it is firewire, you'll have to check google for the proper permissions as user for the /dev/raw1394 ... can someone help chrissyRO here? I've done this for my HDV sony firewire, but not directly for a webcam per se.
[13:51] <perlmonkey> if it aint broke why fix it
[13:52] <sdf2> i won't have if anyody can tell me how to make mic work with pulseaudio
[13:52] <LeonWP> I want usb auto suspend disabled and therefore set "options usbcore autosuspend=-1" in /etc/modprobe.d, though after update-initramfs -u and reboot /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend still says 2
[13:52] <LeonWP> is there anything else I have to do?
[13:52] <sdf2> from 7:00 to 14:52 just dling packages
[13:52] <sdf2> installing them
[13:52] <sdf2> trying everything
[13:52] <sdf2> google fails
[13:52] <perlmonkey> sdf2: i can't get even get my audio working
[13:52] <FloodBot1> sdf2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <jrib> gohmifune: what video card?
[13:52] <perlmonkey> sdf2: hmm?
[13:53] <jrib> gohmifune: actually, just switch the driver to nv and then you'll have X and be able to troubleshoot better
[13:53] <sdf2> i made it work with my laptop
[13:53] <LeonWP> or do I have to build the kernel myself?
[13:53] <sdf2> but this is epic fail
[13:53] <jrib> BigMama: are you a bot
[13:53] <BigMama> no
[13:53] <perlmonkey> why is sdf2 redirecting msgs to PM to someone else?
[13:53] <jrib> BigMama: why are you repeating everything I say in a pm?
[13:53] <LeonWP> 7ignore BigMama
[13:53] <LeonWP> oops
[13:53] <BigMama> just learning mirc script so i needed a chan where peaople are talking to react on certain events...
[13:54] <perlmonkey> someone is running a script
[13:54] <gabriel> i'm running gnome and compiz, and i have emerald theme manager installed. I want to change window borders but also the taskbar and menu appearance... how can I do that? What themes can I use? Must they be compiz themes or gtk themes or emerald themes? I'm generally confuzed about that...
[13:54] <sdf2> ye
[13:54] <LeonWP> just ignore it
[13:54] <perlmonkey> BigMama: do it somewhere else not here
[13:54] <ziroday> BigMama: please test in #test.
[13:54] <jrib> BigMama: do it elsewhere.  Especially if you are pm'ing the users.
[13:54] <jrib> BigMama: please disable the script when you return.  Thanks
[13:54] <BigMama> do i? did it work?
[13:55] <perlmonkey> sdf2: did you try opening alsamixer and putting the mic levels up?
[13:56] <perlmonkey> sdf2: I recently had same problem doing mic recording in Linux but managed to solve it by fiddling with alsamixer and turning on "capture"
[13:56] <sdf2> perlmonkey: i setup my mic with gnomemixer
[13:56] <sdf2> with alsa mixer i see only pulseaudio
[13:56] <perlmonkey> I'm not familiar with pulseaudio I only just upgraded to 8.04 and so now my alsa AND SOUND has gone :-/
[13:57] <LeonWP> does update-initramfs read /etc/modprobe.d?
[13:57] <perlmonkey> im not happy
[13:57] <DG19075> you can purge pulseaudio and force use of alsa or oss
[13:57] <LeonWP> I wonder why my changes there aren't applied at reboot
[13:57] <perlmonkey> is it possible to ditch pulse and have alsa back?
[13:57] <gabriel> i'm running gnome and compiz, and i have emerald theme manager installed. I want to change window borders but also the taskbar and menu appearance... how can I do that? What themes can I use? Must they be compiz themes or gtk themes or emerald themes? I'm generally confuzed about that...
[13:57] <sdf2> perlmonkey: i installed pulseaudio everything is fine, just my mic is not working with it :S
[13:57] <perlmonkey> DG19075: you answered before I asked, thanks :D
[13:57] <cnt> hi, ist gerade jemand da der der deutschen sprache mächtig ist und sich damit auskennt wie man eine defekte installation von VMware unter ubuntu 8.10 wieder von hand deinstallieren kann?
[13:58] <jakeriver> hmm. is there a good how-to to uninstall ubuntu somewhere?
[13:58] <LeonWP> jakeriver, just nuke the disk?
[13:58] <chrissyRO> I don't see raw1394
[13:58] <chrissyRO> How do I get it to make my webcam work?
[13:58] <ubuntu_> hey
[13:58] <jakeriver> LeonWP: didn't work, grub stayed
[13:58] <jakeriver> perhaps i need to try it again
[13:58] <ubuntu_> is scp the fastest way to transfer very large files?
[13:58] <DG19075> purging is what i did using apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[13:58] <mib_y5s7nuiq> Lider bin ich der Sprache etwas maechtig, aber nicht in sachen VMware
[13:59] <perlmonkey> cool
[13:59] <axisys> my arrow keys is not responding.. very annoying.. any suggestion what to do? if I plug an external keyboard through docking station or usb it works fine
[13:59] <perlmonkey> DG19075: and do you know how to make it use alsa?
[13:59] <acicula> ubuntu_: hardly, probably one of the slower
[13:59] <sdf2> i checked already 80+ guides
[13:59] <ubuntu_> how could i do it faster?
[13:59] <sdf2> and installed like 50 packages
[13:59] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found). Is there something that can be done with this?
[14:00] <TuGa> hello to install lates drivers from nvidia ubuntu need to update and download lates kernel headers but wend i do  sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic gives me this error system-tools-backends, action "start" failed any ideia how fix this? tks
[14:00] <DG19075> there are selections under System>Preferences>Sound
[14:00] <sdf2> and friggin mic is epic fail :S
[14:00] <perlmonkey> purging puleseaudio will also remove ubuntu-desktop is that likely to cause breakage?
[14:00] <acicula> ubuntu_: ftp/http/nfs/smb  ?
[14:00] <perlmonkey> DG19075: thanks
[14:00] <ShackJack> axisys: Maybe check around with setting under Keyboard Preferences->Layout -> Other Options... there are some items pertaining to arrow key setup there...
[14:00] <ubuntu_> ummm
[14:00] <ubuntu_> what does that mean?
[14:01] <ShackJack> axisys: And/or verify/tweak the "Keyboard model" under the same menu....
[14:01] <acicula> ubuntu_: any of those protocols let you transfer files quickly, but it depends on what you are trying to do
[14:01] <ubuntu_> ok
[14:01] <ubuntu_> im trying to get world of warcraft from my friends computer.
[14:01] <ubuntu_> hes on my lan
[14:02] <ubuntu_> so I would use FTP?
[14:02] <acicula> ubuntu_: what os does his machine have?
[14:02] <ShackJack> !enter | ubuntu_
[14:02] <gohmifune_> jrib: sorry, I just noticed there is an ubuntu pastebin
[14:02] <ubuntu_> he has ubuntu and vista
[14:02] <acicula> ubuntu_: well ftp needs a server on his machine, if he has windows he can just share it, ubuntu should find the network share
[14:02] <n8tuser> chrissyRO -> did that  cheese worked for you?
[14:03] <acicula> ubuntu_: if he shares the directory under vista ( or ubuntu with samba) under places -> networks his network share should show up.
[14:04] <Natovr> Hi.. I'll read the FAQ before asking
[14:04] <ubuntu_> ok thanks
[14:05] <DrGhoul_> no usb flash drive gurus in here? :/
[14:06] <jrib> gohmifune_: k, you know how to revert to nv?
[14:06] <fallenangel> Hi I am trying to install ubuntu on 20 vm's  .... one by one they install fine however when i try to do it in batches it seems to stall at 28% of scanning apt  I have 5 copies of the iso so it's not a share conflict .. any ideas >
[14:07] <napzter> Hi anybody from Philippines
[14:07] <gohmifune_> jrib: no? what's nv?
[14:07] <jrib> gohmifune_: another driver
[14:07] <jrib> gohmifune_: you can just run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[14:07] <Natovr> Afternoon :) I've got a problem with OpenOffice 3 and new language packages.. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and I followed a howto on the forum to install OpenOffice 3. I tried to install a few language packages, Afrikaans, German, and I think French too - but then OpenOffice seems to completely disappear from my system :(
[14:07] <fallenangel> If I can't do it I guess I can just copy the vm over and over in it's base step however i'm puzzeled as to why there is a hault
[14:07] <acicula> fallenangel: how do you mean batches?
[14:07] <fallenangel> 5 - 10 vm's at a time
[14:08] <gohmifune_> jrib: that should work?
[14:08] <acicula> oh like so
[14:08] <jrib> gohmifune_: it should let you get into X without using the nvidia driver.  But then we can troubleshoot from inside ubuntu
[14:08] <fallenangel> it's esx and the machine has 80 gig in it's cluster so it's definatly not resources
[14:08] <fallenangel> ram i meant
[14:08] <gabriel> ubuntus remote desktop, can it only be connected to using ubuntu, or can i connect from a windows computer?
[14:08] <gohmifune_> jrib: I'll give it a try
[14:09] <acicula> fallenangel: nice toy :), but no clue why it would stall
[14:09] <acicula> they all stall at exactly the same place?
[14:09] <fallenangel> yep 28%of the apt scan
[14:09] <fallenangel> tried a new iso etc
[14:09] <fallenangel> and am running each install off of a seperate copy
[14:10] <acicula> i think you can look at what the installer is actually doing on another virtual console during install
[14:10] <J_el_Che> any one have issues with laptop, where the headphones are plugged in and sound comes through on both speakers and headphones?  I've tried to solve this but have been unable to.
[14:10] <acicula> maybe that can give you any clues ?
[14:10] <fallenangel> mabey I am just not beign patient enough , it shouldn't hang there for about 40 mins shoudl it ?
[14:10] <fallenangel> am more used to suse and slackware
[14:10] <ShackJack> gabriel: Yes, through VNC or similar...
[14:10] <acicula> seems quite long, i did a netinstall of my vm in 30 mins
[14:12] <incorrect> after i log in i have sound,  if i visit a website that has flash my sound goes quiet
[14:12] <gabriel> ShackJack: ok, on windows i ran tightVNC, which let me connect through a java applet. Does ubuntu have the same?
[14:13] <fallenangel> hmm is there a way to skip the mirror scan ?
[14:14] <ShackJack> gabriel: It has support for that so it shouldn't be a problem... there's also RealVNC or DotNetVNC
[14:14] <acicula> fallenangel: heu, not sure if there is an option for that, not configuring the network might maybe?
[14:15] <gabriel> ShackJack: thank u... so, i don't need to install tightVNC for linux then? It's enough with just the build in ubuntu remote deskotp feature? On what port do I connect to get the java applet remote desktop?
[14:15] <axisys> ShackJack: thnx.. it might be better now.. i am seeing keyboard model as generic 105 (intrnl) pc key and layout as USA ..
[14:16] <fallenangel> acicula: that would have been my path but didn't get an option to :( mabey i will unpresent the network cards and see if that helps
[14:16] <axisys> ShackJack: would be nice if i could change the intrl key to usa key for kb model
[14:16] <echosystm> hey guys, how do you scroll back in terminal?
[14:16] <echosystm> like when youre not in x, youre at the command line
[14:16] <axisys> echosystm: pageup if you are using irssi
[14:16] <echosystm> how do you see all the stuff that has gone off the screen
[14:16] <ShackJack> gabriel: Nope, just need to enable on VNC... the port choice is up to you, but I think ppl default to 5900.. You want to turn off desktop effects on Ubuntu though...
[14:17] <echosystm> i mean in bash axisys
[14:17] <ShackJack> axisys: intrl -> usa key - I don't know what you mean?
[14:17] <axisys> echosystm: pageup
[14:17] <acicula> fallenangel: using a local mirror or a remote ?
[14:18] <axisys> ShackJack: Keyboard model shows Generic 105-key (Intl) PC and Selected Layout is USA as default
[14:18] <fallenangel> I have downloaded an iso , it simply gets to the "configuring apt " stage and says scanning mirrors I assume that means the default repo's
[14:18] <ShackJack> axisys: Ahhh... If you click the plus key you can add/customize other layouts...
[14:18] <echosystm> nevermind, i got it
[14:18] <echosystm> it is shift + page up
[14:18] <echosystm> :)
[14:19] <acicula> fallenangel: dunno, it scans the cd at some point i think, but additional repo's only after network is setup
[14:19] <gabriel> ShackJack: hmm i do have the compiz effects enabled... doesn't VNC turn them off in remote desktop mode?
[14:20] <ShackJack> gabriel: I'm not sure about now... I had tried in the past and it affected performance... maybe that's changed...
[14:20] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found).
[14:20] <gabriel> thanks
[14:20] <fallenangel> gabriel: no vnc is pure pass through of whats there
[14:20] <fallenangel> however most of the features shortcuts etc won't work
[14:21] <dr1> dadi
[14:21] <pmitros> Does anyone know where I can set up PPP under Intrepid, the right way? I found some things under "Network Connections/Mobile Broadband", but it only allows one to select AT&T and TMobile cell phones, not arbitrary PPP.
[14:22] <pmitros> I'm trying to connect to the Internet through my cell, which uses PPP, but it is a regional carrier.
[14:22] <mon> ok
[14:23] <pmitros> Guess not. Logging off. I'll try another experiment.
[14:24] <recon69> anyone know whats up with ubuntu 8.04 , seems that it's unstable, when i put my computer under strain I get lots of strange things happening. like firefox and other program spontaneously crashing.
[14:25] <axisys> ShackJack: i like the USA layout.. i wish i could change the Keyboard Model to USA .
[14:25] <emretemp> is there a way to figure out why gnome applet panel keeps crashing?  a log file perhaps?
[14:26] <ShackJack> axisys: The model is really tied to the hardware, not the country.... The layout is where you get into those funny characters, etc... :)
[14:26] <gohmifune> jrib: My screen partially boots, then goes blank
[14:26] <axisys> ShackJack: i know during install u can change the keyboard model.. i guess it is little too late now :-)
[14:26] <spoogly> hello, anyone here good with gnucash?
[14:26] <mirko_> hi guys, I have a problem with copying files, I have created user lfs ( i'm following the LFS tutorial )
[14:26] <jrib> gohmifune: need those files again
[14:26] <mirko_> but when I try to copy files
[14:27] <ShackJack> axisys: No, you can change the model right in the KB dialog actually, then tweak the layout if necessary...
[14:27] <mirko_> i get error message  cp: writing `sources/vim-7.2-fixes-3.patch': No space left on device
[14:27] <jrib> gohmifune: if your internet is up, you could just use irssi to chat in the text login
[14:27] <ShackJack> axisys: Or run the dpkg-reconfigure on the keyboard settings...
[14:27] <mirko_> is there some default space limitiation for additional users in ubuntu
[14:27] <Administrator_> what's gnucash?
[14:28] <Agion> does anyone know how to fix wine's USB keyboard problem while playing games? When I open for example Counterstrike source my keyboard isn't recognised. Any helps?
[14:28] <axisys> ShackJack: yep.. so what is the keyboard pkg name ?
[14:28] <klaidas> is there any way to launch opengl programs in a terminal environment-without X?
[14:28] <acicula> mirko_: ussually means the disk is full?
[14:28] <ShackJack> Administrator_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gnucash
[14:28] <mirko_> is this a good place to pose this question
[14:28] <mirko_> yes it ussauly means that
[14:28] <zash> Administrator_: GnuCash is personal and small-business financial-accounting software
[14:28] <gohmifune> jrib: I'm on wifi, no interenet, unless there is something I don't know
[14:28] <mirko_> but I'm able to copy as root
[14:28] <spoogly> gnucash is a financial management app like quicken that runs on linux
[14:28] <acicula> mirko_: no limitations, unless you use quota's i think
[14:28] <mirko_> or as meself
[14:28] <acicula> mirko_: that is correct
[14:28] <tk3> hi all - is there a trick to running a 22" LCD monitor (native res of 1680x1050) at a lower resolution with xorg on ubuntu? every time I change the screen resolution using the graphical dialogue, the display is garbled and redrawing erratically / in waves. any thoughts?
[14:28] <tk3> i want to use it at a lower res as it's far away from me in a living room...
[14:29] <acicula> mirko_: by default 5% of space is reserved for root
[14:29] <gohmifune> jrib: do you just want me to paste them into the pastebin, that it?
[14:29] <jrib> gohmifune: right, they'll be different now
[14:29] <mirko_> how can I check space available to users
[14:29] <acicula> mirko_: df -h
[14:29] <fallenangel> this is just stupid ... I have now ever tried a completely different version and same deal 28% ... and it hangs there has to be a way to not scan
[14:30] <fallenangel> I understand that the ubuntu installer wants to make it nice and friendly but every other distro lets me choose to skip steps like this
[14:30] <klaidas> quit
[14:30] <klaidas> lol
[14:30] <smelian> hello
[14:31] <gohmifune> jrib: xorg.conf and what else again?
[14:31] <smelian> please how can i open windows share folder in ubuntu ? ( i see my folder inside network but when i click on it its need user + pass + domain name and i dont have domain
[14:31] <jrib> gohmifune: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:31] <mirko_> it appears that problem is that i have created mounting point in dev directory which mounts directory in my home
[14:32] <mirko_> and dev is limited to 505 mb
[14:32] <mirko_> can I change that
[14:32] <ShackJack> tk3: Shoudn't be... But As far as garbled... I might play with different refresh rates... And if you have ATI/Nvidia perhaps install restrcited drivers... Screen Res can be found under Preferences...
[14:33] <gohmifune> jrib: they are up
[14:33] <jrib> gohmifune: still need url
[14:34] <gohmifune> jrib: right, sorry. http://paste.ubuntu.com/131560/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/131559/
[14:34] <ramontayag> hi all. any reason I only occassionally (most of the time actually) get "Connection refused" when I try to connect via ssh to a server? When I keep trying though I get through sometimes.  Can a slow internet connection cause this?
[14:34] <smelian> please how can i open windows share folder in ubuntu ? ( i see my folder inside network but when i click on it its need user + pass + domain name and i dont have domain
[14:35] <racecar56> hello everyone, i have a really weird problem, i have an old floppy drive (yes, on my new computer) and it dosen't work on ubuntu, but it works as nice as it does on windows on debian, what is wrong?
[14:35] <jrib> gohmifune: hrmm.  ANd ctrl-alt-f7 doesn't have X?
[14:35] <acicula> ramontayag: is it a shared system? ussually it means  that the server responded with a rst i think
[14:35] <ramontayag> nope, vps. what's rst?
[14:35] <tk3> ShackJack: it's an on-board intel chipset. seems like it doesn't like the "act" of switching because the panel appears to support other resolutions based on http://pastebin.com/d69f9a835
[14:36] <gohmifune> jrib: nope, I get the cross cursor, at the right resolution, but after that, nada
[14:36] <acicula> ramontayag: basicly says that no service is running at that port
[14:36] <acicula> ramontayag: i suppose a slow network connection can also cause the message, does it take long to appear?
[14:36] <racecar56> !floppy
[14:36] <ramontayag> acicula: hmm.. but if I keep trying I'm able to connect :) and I made the iptable and set ssh to accept at a certain port
[14:36] <jrib> gohmifune: erm, you haven't done anything else trying to get X to work?
[14:37] <acicula> ramontayag: try pinging your server
[14:37] <gohmifune> jrib: nothing you haven't said to do
[14:37] <ramontayag> acicula: the connection refused appears about 1 second later
[14:37] <ShackJack> tk3: Not sure what you're showing me... You should be able to switch resolutions via prefs and/or add the desired resolutions to your xorg...
[14:37] <racecar56> /dev/fd0 dosen't exist....
[14:37] <ramontayag> will ping now :)
[14:37] <tk3> ShackJack: output of xrandr
[14:38] <ShackJack> So you can't go to prefs and select the appropriate res/refresh?
[14:38] <jrib> gohmifune: ok, I don't see why nv would not be working, but try setting the driver to vesa
[14:38] <ShackJack> tk3: ^
[14:38] <LimeBurst> hellp guys@
[14:38] <LimeBurst> hello guys!
[14:38] <gohmifune> jrib: how do I do that, it didn't give me options.
[14:38] <LimeBurst> amazing typo. huh?
[14:39] <fallenangel> heh ok .. well when i select back on the proxy choice and try and skip the package management config it  simply doesn't let me it takes me to the same point
[14:39] <fallenangel> I have a deadline to meet and atm ubuntu is commingup as the lamest distro i have installed and I have added allot lol , the simple process of mabey allowing a skip if it can't get to the repo I guess was too logical
[14:39] <ramontayag> acicula: this is weird... in one terminal i logged in the server via ssh. in the other i try to ping it and I get 100% packet loss. the first terminal windows works fine though.. I can type and run stuff on the server.
[14:39] <jrib> gohmifune: Driver "vesa"      for the device section
[14:40] <acicula> ramontayag: well maybe it drops pings
[14:40] <skobo> eeeeeeeeeeeee
[14:40] <tk3> ShackJack: thanks for you time - I managed to make it work correctly by using xrandr to set the resolution directly - the sys pref thing kept messing it up
[14:40] <ShackJack> Ah... gotcha... :)
[14:40] <gohmifune> jrib: where it says identifier?
[14:40] <ramontayag> acicula: oh maye.. I never didn't do that deliberately though if i caused that
[14:41] <jrib> gohmifune: on a new line, yes
[14:41] <acicula> ramontayag: dont think it's on my default
[14:41] <skobo> ciao
[14:41] <acicula> *by
[14:41] <fallenangel> removed the network card and it passes that point how stupid owe well least I can work with it
[14:41] <ramontayag> acicula: got other ideas? :o it makes it terribly difficult for me to deploy. i feel like i'm banging on a brick wall
[14:42] <gohmifune> jrib: you mean like, Identifier  "vesa" in xorg.conf, am I understanding you?
[14:42] <ramontayag> maybe i'll just reformat the server.. dunno
[14:42] <jrib> gohmifune: no, new line
[14:42] <acicula> ramontayag: well it's either your connection, try pinging something from your server, check your ssh logs to see if someone's hammering it maybe?
[14:42] <fallenangel> does ubuntu do a hardware scan at boot for changes ? or is that askin too much lol
[14:43] <jrib> gohmifune: you're just adding a new line in that section, not changing anything else
[14:43] <acicula> fallenangel: dunno, think it configures some things dynamically. it'll detect the nic, but you still have to configure the network settings then
[14:43] <gohmifune> jrib: just the word vesa, in quotation marks on no?
[14:43] <gohmifune> jrib: or no?
[14:43] <jrib> gohmifune: Driver "vesa"
[14:44] <acicula> ramontayag: seems a bit overkill if you dont know what is causing it
[14:44] <ramontayag> acicula: ok i'll check the ssh logs. i can ping others though, but i get horrible packet drops but i still get to ping google.com :)
[14:44] <gohmifune> jrib: ok, I'll give it a shot
[14:44] <cypher1> ramontayag, what does uname -a show on both terminals
[14:44] <ramontayag> cypher1: both my local and my server? just a sec
[14:44] <acicula> ramontayag: getting packet drops from your server is not good i think
[14:45] <ramontayag> acicula: oh i'm far away from my server hehe
[14:45] <ramontayag> acicula: so i expect that
[14:45] <acicula> ramontayag: yeh but it should ping something like google just fine , heh
[14:45] <ramontayag> and net connections here generally suck
[14:45] <rickard> Im using non-free flash plugin... sometimes youtube videos just show a grey box... what is wrong?
[14:45] <ramontayag> cypher1: my local machine: Linux ramon-desktop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:46] <ramontayag> cypher1: my server: Linux theinksquad 2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.028stab053.10ent #1 SMP Tue Apr 1 16:10:55 MSD 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:47] <ugliefrog> how can i update pytube from the terminal
[14:49] <fallenangel> acicula : thanx  , yeah figured i woudl have to configure that , is allot simpler than waiting for a task that never ends lol
[14:49] <acicula> fallenangel: true
[14:49] <fallenangel> just finnished the machine without the cardin about 10 mins :)
[14:49] <fallenangel> lol
[14:50] <acicula> whee
[14:50] <smelian> please how can i open windows share folder in ubuntu ? ( i see my folder inside network but when i click on it its need user + pass + domain name and i dont have domain
[14:51] <Pinchiukas> How do I remove this "GPT partition table" thing from a hard disk in my system? I don't need any data on it.
[14:51] <julian_w> hi with sed 's/ÃÂ¶/ö/g' test.sql > test2.sql i replace every sign that matches with ö right?
[14:52] <Natovr> Afternoon :) I've got a problem with OpenOffice 3 and new language packages.. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and I followed a howto on the forum to install OpenOffice 3. I tried to install a few language packages, Afrikaans, German, and I think French too - but then OpenOffice seems to completely disappear from my system :(
[14:53] <DexterF> hi
[14:53] <ubuntu_> hey
[14:54] <gohmifune> jrib: I get to the login in screen, it begins to load, and then it sends be back to the login screen
[14:54] <DexterF> what's the current status on notebook docking stations? Samsung X22 Pro and X-Dock III, precisely
[14:54] <ubuntu_> I cant get scp to work.  It keeps trying to download the whole computer
[14:55] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_  just give your command here please
[14:56] <n8tuser> anyone remembers which settings to turn off a specific partition from being displayed on the Places menu using gconftool-2 or gconf-editor ?
[14:56] <ubuntu_> this is what I typed:  /media/disk/home/anatashinu/Desktop
[14:56] <ubuntu_> oops
[14:56] <ubuntu_> this is what I typed:  sudo scp -r me@10.0.0.2: /media/COMPAQ/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft /media/disk/home/anatashinu/Desktop
[14:57] <jrib> gohmifune: if even vesa can't load, I'm not sure what is wrong.  Does typing "startx" give you more information?
[14:57] <scarebyte> hi, in intrepid  my wireless connection only works without network manager. can be a bug?
[14:57] <n8tuser> scarebyte -> which nm version do you have?
[14:57] <HAhAhAHaH_dArE> #raj
[14:58] <joetromondo> Hi , im trying to start my httpd daemon. When I try to start it says failed.....
[14:58] <gabriel> ShackJack: hey, the built in remote desktop doesn't support connecting through a webpage, like tightVNC on windows does... you were wrong about that
[14:58] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ : you copy it from an windows box? how much do you have data?
[14:58] <acicula> joetromondo: check /var/log/apache2/
[14:58] <ubuntu_> excuse me?
[14:59] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to copy it from a half windows-half ubuntu
[14:59] <ubuntu_> that is the login for ubuntu
[14:59] <ubuntu_> he has sshd installed
[14:59] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ and, how much data is it?
[14:59] <ubuntu_> oops sorry about multiple lines
[14:59] <ubuntu_> 14g
[14:59] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ 14gb?
[14:59] <ubuntu_> ya
[15:00] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ when i copy 14gb of data, i also think it copies the whole computer .... ;)
[15:00] <scarebyte> n8tuser: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1.8.10.2
[15:00] <racecar56> lol
[15:00] <ubuntu_> but it copied things on his desktop
[15:00] <ubuntu_> like ekiga
[15:01] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | ubuntu_
[15:01] <racecar56> im looking at a forum thread and they suggest running 'id' and i should have one called 25(floppy) but i don't
[15:01] <ubuntu_> and when I tried scp to my other computer for a small fil, it copied my whole computer
[15:01] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ may you check the source directory. what is in there?
[15:01] <joetromondo> acicula: I dont have a dir apache2 in var, and it is instlled
[15:01] <erUSUL> racecar56: add yourself to thet group
[15:02] <n8tuser> scarebyte -> i just installed 8.10 on a laptop and have same experience as you, cant use nm to control wifi
[15:02] <acicula> joetromondo: /var/LOG/apache2
[15:02] <ubuntu_> in which directory?  the one on his computer or mine?
[15:02] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: what is the exact command you are using?
[15:02] <acicula> not /var/apache2
[15:02] <scarebyte> n8tuser: you have that version also?
[15:02] <yup_> hello
[15:02] <oCean_> racecar56: 25 is groupid for group called floppy
[15:02] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ the source directory from which you copy
[15:02] <n8tuser> scarebyte -> yes 0.7.0
[15:02] <yup_> i need help
[15:02] <joetromondo> thats what I meant  :)
[15:02] <Dennis__V> i have a problem with a fxp transfer between my 2 ubuntu servers. Its is reaaly slow and it take's 5 minutes before it starts the transfer. I use proftp as ftp client
[15:02] <ubuntu_> Im sorry but what is the source directory
[15:02] <erUSUL> racecar56: sudo adduser $USER floppy
[15:03] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ which is your mother language?
[15:03] <ubuntu_> english
[15:03] <oCean_> joetromondo: that apacha install seems broken
[15:03] <joetromondo> acicula: in the log dir there is no apache dir
[15:03] <scarebyte> n8tuser: ok, in my case the only thing i did before it stopped working was change the runlevel order
[15:03] <racecar56> erUSUL do i have to logout/login after doing that?
[15:03] <yup_> I need help mounting ntfs
[15:03] <oCean_> joetromondo: how did you install?
[15:03] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ the source directory is this one from which you copy.... do you now understand?
[15:03] <racecar56> yup_ ntfs-3d
[15:03] <racecar56> yup_ ntfs-3g
[15:04] <erUSUL> racecar56: yep that would help
[15:04] <racecar56> k
[15:04] <ubuntu_> oh ok
[15:04] <yup_> i am a newbie at mounting
[15:04] <ubuntu_> The command I used is "/media/COMPAQ/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft /media/disk/home/anatashinu/Desktop"
[15:04] <erUSUL> yup_: install ntfs-config and use it "gksudo ntfs-config"
[15:04] <ubuntu_> oops sorry thats not it
[15:04] <acicula> joetromondo: heu, try looking in syslog/messages then for a startup error
[15:05] <cr4> How can I create an archive of all the files & folders in a folder called "files"?
[15:05] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ so look what is in /media/COMPAQ/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft
[15:05] <ubuntu_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ scp -r me@10.0.0.2: /media/COMPAQ/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft /media/disk/home/anatashinu/Desktop
[15:05] <racecar56> hey now i see 25(floppy) in id
[15:05] <erUSUL> cr4: tar czf archive.tgz files/
[15:05] <ubuntu_> World of warcraft is in the first file (on his computer)
[15:05] <yup_> i did download that ntfs config and it still will not mount
[15:05] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ so look what is in /media/COMPAQ/Program\ Files/World\ of\ Warcraft
[15:05] <erUSUL> cr4: or use the right click menu of nautilus XD
[15:05] <racecar56> XD
[15:05] <ubuntu_> world of warcraft...
[15:06] <racecar56> by the way /dev/fd0 dosen't exist
[15:06] <ortsvorsteher> ubuntu_ i think i cannot help you... sry
[15:06] <oCean_> yup_: to mount a drive, you have to know it's devicename and choose/create a mountpoint
[15:06] <ubuntu_> why?
[15:06] <tk3> can I stop gnome from showing all my home folder contents on the dekstop?
[15:06] <oCean_> racecar56: "modprobe floppy"
[15:06] <joetromondo> oCean_: apt-get
[15:06] <ubuntu_> it has nothing to do with world of warcraft. This happens nomatter what file I'm getting/
[15:06] <jrib> tk3: sure, don't make your home your desktop
[15:06] <n8tuser> erUSUL -> may i pm you for some insight ?
[15:06] <yup_> see how do i figure out that ?
[15:06] <racecar56> oCean_ that made my floppy drive buzz :D
[15:07] <oCean_> joetromondo: you mean "apt-get install apache2" ?
[15:07] <oCean_> racecar56: sweet
[15:07] <racecar56> w00t
[15:07] <ramontayag> acicula: it must be my connection. because while tailing /var/log/auth.log, in another terminal I tried to connect via ssh. nothing showed up in the auth.log util 20 attempts later. then I was able to get thru.
[15:07] <SomePriest> If I boot, and the X driver doesn't load properly (no login prompt, can barely read the scren), how do I drop to a virtual terminal as to resolve the issue?  CTRL ALT F1 - F6 doesn't do it.
[15:07] <tk3> jrib: not sure i've consciously done that - where can it be changed?
[15:07] <erUSUL> tk3: what does « grep DESK ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs » return ?
[15:07] <erUSUL> n8tuser: yes
[15:07] <ubuntu_> ...
[15:07] <acicula> ramontayag: well with the heavy packet loss it's not surprising that your connects dont go through no
[15:07] <yup_> i need step by step help
[15:07] <ramontayag> acicula: this blows :(
[15:07] <tk3> erUSUL: XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/"
[15:08] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found).
[15:08] <joetromondo> oCean_: Well actually im using arch linux, but the only difference is pacman
[15:08] <ramontayag> acicula: thanks. i do hope that's the problem though hehe.
[15:08] <Aizawa> Might be a silly question, but how do I install Ubuntu without a DE and, if possible, without any graphical programs (As they wont be used anyway)
[15:08] <tk3> erUSUL: is that the right file to edit?
[15:08] <Aizawa> ?*
[15:08] <sugi> whats the command to see all aviable harddrive even from a livecd?
[15:08] <gohmifune> jrib: it says x is running on display 0
[15:08] <acicula> ramontayag: well check the connectivity form your vm to the outside world i guess
[15:08] <jrib> Aizawa: you probabily just want the server edition then?  Or minimal
[15:08] <erUSUL> tk3: yes change that to "$HOME/Desktop" (if Desktop is you desktop folder if your ubuntu is not in english it may have other name
[15:08] <jrib> gohmifune: and ctrl-alt-whatever never gets you to X?
[15:09] <sdf2> how can i set the default microphone for pulseaudio?
[15:09] <Aizawa> jrib: Ohright. Thanks.
[15:09] <gohmifune> jrib: nope
[15:09] <Azzmodan> Aizawa, there are minimal and server editions, then just install what you need
[15:09] <oCean_> joetromondo: ?
[15:09] <jrib> gohmifune: don't know then
[15:09] <Aizawa> I'll check them out
[15:09] <yup_> anyone help me with mounting ntfs
[15:09] <jrib> !ntfs | yup_
[15:09] <makeitfunky> hi
[15:09] <gohmifune> jrib: no other leads? really?
[15:09] <racecar56> yaaaay i can read floppys
[15:09] <ramontayag> acicula: it seems okay. :) it must be my isp
[15:09] <sdf2> how can i set the default mic, for pulseaudio?
[15:10] <racecar56> thank u erusul and ocean_
[15:10] <sugi> whats the command to see all aviable hardddrives even form a live cd?  fdisk -l ?
[15:10] <jrib> gohmifune: it used to work at some point right?
[15:10] <erUSUL> racecar56: no problem
[15:10] <acicula> ramontayag:  :)
[15:10] <gohmifune> jrib: yesterday
[15:10] <makeitfunky> i have a problem with the configuration of a audio card emu 1616m pci can sobody help me?
[15:10] <tk3> erUSUL: cool, that did the trick
[15:10] <Aizawa> So if I do a minimal install, I can do nothing but boot ubuntu?
[15:10] <makeitfunky> alsa 1.0.19 is compiled
[15:10] <gohmifune> jrib: you think a reinstall is the only option at this point?
[15:10] <erUSUL> tk3: no problem
[15:10] <makeitfunky> but i have many xrun with jack
[15:11] <jrib> gohmifune: the quickest at least... I really don't know what else to try
[15:11] <makeitfunky> why???
[15:11] <Aizawa> I suppose that's okay since apt will install dependencies.. Right..=
[15:11] <Aizawa> ?
[15:11] <joetromondo> oCean_: Yes, I installed from a repository like apt-get
[15:11] <acicula> Aizawa: a minimal install is just that, grub so you can boot other stuff, and a very basic installation
[15:11] <SaturnDriver> can anyone help me trouble shoot my issues trying to get OPL3/FM hardware synth to work?
[15:11] <Aizawa> But I can start installing things with apt, right?
[15:11] <acicula> Aizawa: yes
[15:12] <Aizawa> All right.. Is there a reason not to do it that way, then?
[15:12] <gohmifune> jrib: good thing home is seperate. Was 8.10 the last version, or are there any updated ISOs.
[15:12] <acicula> Aizawa: depends on what you want
[15:12] <jrib> gohmifune: that's the latest
[15:13] <oCean_> joetromondo: ubuntu provides metapackages, which ensure complete and succesful installation. Since you are not using ubuntu.. you're on your own, or ask in channel #archlinux
[15:13] <Aizawa> Well, I'll install things like Nano, Lynx, MoC music player thingy, etc.. Just basic stuff for desktop use
[15:13] <joetromondo> oCean_: Ok, thanks
[15:13] <morgan100> lklm,ljk,kln bvhvnnbngbbugnhnjb
[15:13] <gohmifune> jrib: aside from home, any other directories that need their own partition?
[15:13] <jrib> Aizawa: that's fine
[15:13] <morgan100>  uhmhnjmbnigvkvhg
[15:13] <detr0it> Hi .. I'm running a small home LAN. I would like to centralize user management on a server running 8.04.  What is the best way to do that?
[15:13] <Mic92> This is maybe the wrong room, but in the LaTeX-channel nobody answer me: If I try to compile this data http://nopaste.gwarg.de/23680 , I get this errorlog: http://nopaste.gwarg.de/23681
[15:13] <jrib> gohmifune: swap, but you already have that I suppose
[15:14] <Aizawa> Is Bash the default shell? (Last question)
[15:14] <morgan100> :p
[15:14] <makeitfunky> i have a problem with the configuration of a audio card emu 1616m pci can sobody help me?
[15:14] <erUSUL> Aizawa: for interactive use it is. but /bin/sh is  dash
[15:14] <Aizawa> I mean, there are instances where it's not >.>
[15:14] <morgan100> ucvfakcdilcklvjsdm,.cmldcjsl;gfjsk,l
[15:14] <jrib> Aizawa: default login shell, yes
[15:14] <Aizawa> Okay, sweet
[15:14] <Aizawa> thanks
[15:14] <Administrator_> is wubi ubunto slower than native ubuntu?
[15:15] <gohmifune> jrib: yeah, anything I should be careful of, that you can think?
[15:15] <LjL> morgan100: try english
[15:15] <jrib> !clone | gohmifune
[15:15] <morgan100> ha ha
[15:15] <LjL> morgan100: try to make sense, too
[15:15] <morgan100> fuck u
[15:15] <jrib> Mic92: don't you need a special package to use tikzpicture?
[15:16] <Mic92> But it works if i don't use pst-circ
[15:17] <Mic92> jrib:
[15:17] <makeitfunky> i have a problem with the configuration of a audio card emu 1616m pci can sobody help me?
[15:17] <erUSUL> makeitfunky: you may neeed the -rt kernel to avoid xruns with jackd
[15:17] <clueneeded> I have a 82845G card.  In  "system/preferences/Screen Resolution" the monitor says "unknown".  How do I I get ubuntu to "know" whatever is being "unknown" in that screen?
[15:18] <clueneeded> this is in 8.10
[15:18] <gohmifune> !automate
[15:18] <Mic92> jrib: ok, the error-log change
[15:18] <gohmifune> !clone
[15:18] <gohmifune> !cloning
[15:19] <jrib>  gohmifune that will let you install all of the packages you currently have installed more easily
[15:19] <jrib> gohmifune: I have to go now, good luck
[15:19] <gohmifune> jrib: thanks
[15:20] <gohmifune> jrib: you were a big help
[15:20] <clueneeded> (waiting...)
[15:20] <Mic92> jrib:  Is it possible, that the package tikzpicture doesn't exist?
[15:21] <jrib> Mic92: you probably just want "tikz".  I don't know though
[15:21] <n8tuser> Mic92 -> you can try your current repositories with  sudo apt-cache search tikz  see if any get listed
[15:21] <acicula> clueneeded: can you set a resolution for the monitor? or does the resolution say unknown
[15:22] <clueneeded> resolution stuck at 640x480
[15:22] <skobo> aa
[15:22] <BlackDex> hello there
[15:22] <clueneeded> no other choice
[15:22] <oCean_> Mic92: see also packages.ubuntu.com to search for packages in various sections, suites etc
[15:22] <BlackDex> is there a way to find a sequense of hex values within files?
[15:22] <BlackDex> like with grep or something?
[15:22] <acicula> clueneeded: makes sense i guess since it doesnt recognize the monitor
[15:23] <Mic92> tikzpicture is package for LaTeX, note a programm
[15:23] <TuGa> hello
[15:23] <skobo> hi
[15:23] <clueneeded> would this automatically work if it recognised the monitor?
[15:23] <TuGa> i cant start system-tools-backends  in ubuntu 8.10
[15:23] <xy|ox> BlackDex, you could try an hex editor
[15:23] <eighthr> anyone used ghamachi for logmein....???....
[15:23] <TuGa> how can i solve this?
[15:23] <acicula> clueneeded: yup
[15:23] <clueneeded> aw man...
[15:24] <clueneeded> i guess i just need to swap monitors
[15:24] <hccmb> hi there
[15:24] <clueneeded> thanks
[15:24] <BlackDex> xy|ox: There are a lot of files to search for
[15:24] <hccmb> how can i know if my cpu can do kvm?
[15:24] <erUSUL> BlackDex: man hexdump ?
[15:24] <acicula> or just edit the x conf file i suppose
[15:24] <hccmb> i did an grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo but it did not return any info
[15:24] <Mic92> I use tikz, but nothing change.
[15:24] <hccmb> tips are welcome
[15:25] <acicula> hccmb: does kvm require virtualization extensions?
[15:25] <n8tuser> TuGa -> i have not used that before, what is it used for?
[15:25] <hccmb> no
[15:25] <magnetron> hccmb→ tip: tell the channel what CPU you have
[15:25] <acicula> heu then every cpu will work, just not every cpu will work just as well
[15:25] <fearful> what's a good app I can use to manage backup of /home directory?
[15:26] <racecar56> lol one of the people who left had firefox 3.0.4
[15:26] <hccmb>  Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz
[15:26] <hccmb> would that work with kvm?
[15:26] <erUSUL> hccmb: egrep --color '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[15:26] <gabriel> hello all. how can i get a taskbar like this? http://www.compiz-themes.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=79431&file1=79431-1.jpg&file2=79431-2.jpg&file3=79431-3.jpg&name=Vienniece
[15:26] <n8tuser> fearful -> what do you meant by manage?  can you expand on that a lil bit?
[15:26] <magnetron> hccmb→ pentium 4 doesn't have virtualization extensions. that's what your grep told you
[15:26] <stroyan> BlackDex: Grep can handle arbitrary characters.  Bash can hand it characters from hex notation.   grep $'\x32\x32' filename
[15:26] <hccmb> ah
[15:26] <TuGa> n8tuser, hello thing is that wend i update or upgrade ubu at the end of the update give a error saying that cant start system-tools-backends
[15:26] <hccmb> ok, to bad but no problem
[15:27] <hccmb> i will use virtualbox instead
[15:27] <fearful> n8tuser, just a nice gui app I don't feel like using command line for backups
[15:27] <erUSUL> !info sbackup | fearful
[15:27] <acicula> magnetron: heu it's not really clear from the wiki, but do you need vt/amd-v for kvm period, seems to be able to do paravirtualization?
[15:27] <fearful> erUSUL, thanks
[15:27] <racecar56> i have to go now goodbye
[15:28] <RalCheesus> hmm
[15:28] <clueneeded> hi!  How to tell if ubuntu is running vesa or the actual driver for the card you are running
[15:28] <racecar56> clueneeded xorg.conf
[15:28] <n8tuser> TuGa -> i dont know what it does, there are no man pages for it, i guess we both have to google for what it do
[15:28] <racecar56> clueneeded sudo nano xorg.conf
[15:28] <rickard> Im using non-free flash plugin... sometimes youtube videos just show a grey box... what is wrong?
[15:28] <erUSUL> clueneeded: grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:28] <hccmb> ok thanks for the info
[15:28] <hccmb> take care you all
[15:28] <hccmb> :P
[15:29] <racecar56> rickard non-free isnt supported, so i dont think they give support here
[15:29] <DasEi>  if I want to know if my homeserver is reachable, I could try tor to see if it's reachable from outside, nor ?
[15:29] <racecar56> bye
[15:29] <TuGa> i have done that, and i find this! http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-663-1
[15:29] <TuGa> a bit concerning!
[15:29] <acicula> DasEi: or try something like shieldsup.net?
[15:29] <clueneeded> ok... mine is running vesa.  How to make it run on the actual driver for my 82845g card?
[15:30] <acicula> heu it's not on that uri, but google shieldsup, it lets you can the ip you are connecting from
[15:30] <DasEi> acicula: is http://www.greuelheuler-dyn-o-saur.com/ reaqchable for you ?
[15:30] <clueneeded> intel 82845G/GL
[15:31] <acicula> DasEi: dns doesnt resolve
[15:31] <DasEi> thanks, acicula
[15:31] <Wanderer> is mediabuntu repository still viable?
[15:31] <LjL> yes
[15:31] <acicula> DasEi: doesnt mean that your machine is not reacheable
[15:32] <Wanderer> cool, thanks
[15:32] <BlackDex> stroyan: Hmm the \x00 won't work :S
[15:32] <fearful> erUSUL, thanks man just what I needed.
[15:32] <erUSUL> fearful: no problem
[15:33] <Maximilian1st> Hi, I use ubuntu 8.10 with Xfce 4.6 and after changing the mouse speed in the xfce mouse settings, the mouse went faster and all was ok. But now, after a reboot, my alps mouse is gone and I only have left some mackintosh emulation thing, before there were three devices listed. I only have one touchpad on the notebook. I plugged a USB mouse and it works perfectly but I need my touchpad to work again. Any advice?
[15:35] <cr4> How do I delete a folder & files within it in SSH and also, how do I uncompress a .tgz file?
[15:35] <yup_> ok confused
[15:35] <yup_> don't know how to edit my fstab
[15:36] <sdf2> Anybody please tell me, how to set pulseaudio's default microphone
[15:36] <pac1> I've been looking for a way to do a screen shot from just one screen.  Is there a way to get a screen shot from just the active window?
[15:36] <ortsvorsteher> cr4: at first, remove the files in a dir with rm * after that you can rmdir the directory which you not need anymore. use tyr xczvf to uncompress a .tgz file
[15:37] <maxbaldwin> Is there something wrong with the 'ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso' fer bittorrent on the site?
[15:37] <ortsvorsteher> cr4: i meant: use tar xczvf .tgz to uncompres
[15:37] <sdf2> may anybody tell me how to set the default mic in pulseaudio?
[15:37] <maxbaldwin> because every one I've downloaded has failed at being an iso.
[15:38] <yup_> anyone know how to mount an external ntfs drive ?
[15:38] <stroyan> BlackDex: If you need to match zero characters you may be able to get that working by putting the pattern in a file and using   grep -f patternfile datafile
[15:38] <LjL> evilnjan: again? eventually i'll ban you all for nickspam, mind! >:
[15:38] <Titan8990> yup_, sudo mount /dev/sdxx /media/mymountpoint
[15:38] <acicula> yup_: external usb disk? same way you would a normal disk, mount /dev/devicename /path/to/mount/point -t <filesystem>
[15:38] <mcnicholls> hi
[15:38] <shpook> so, can someone help me connect my printer to my XP machine? Ubuntu is the host machine.
[15:38] <Titan8990> yup_, where /dev/sdxx is the device name for the drive and /media/mymountpoint is a mount point you have created
[15:39] <shpook> err, I meant to say please :D
[15:39] <sdf2> may anybody tell me please, how to set the default mic in pulseaudio?
[15:39] <yup_> i don't get the mountpoint
[15:39] <pac1> shpook  Is anyone but you going to print on this printer?
[15:39] <acicula> sdf2: system->sound preferences?
[15:39] <yup_> how do i create a mount point ?
[15:40] <zash> yup_: it's just a directory
[15:40] <acicula> yup_: mount point is a directory
[15:40] <shpook> pac1, two people, me on the Ubuntu host, and the wife on the XP machine
[15:40] <auntieNeo> okay, I'm configuring my /etc/network/interfaces and I only want one nic to be up... the problem is, the nics that I don't specify always go up. how do I specify that they should be down?
[15:40] <Maximilian1st> sdf2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819563
[15:40] <zeitsofa> yup_: mkdir /path/pathagin ;)
[15:40] <yup_> i know i sound stupit haha i have never done it before
[15:40] <pac1> My advice, buy a ps121 from netgear.  That way your linux box doesnt need t be up.
[15:40] <erUSUL> auntieNeo: specify them without an "auto iface" line
[15:40] <cemunal> does latest ubuntu kernel support 0c45:613c Microdia driver? Can i use 0c45:613c Microdia webcam with ubuntu?
[15:41] <Travis-42> i'm trying to setup multiple monitors using xorg.conf's "metamodes" option.  How does X decide which set of metamodes to use?  Can I manually switch between them?
[15:41] <shpook> well, the linux box is always up anyways
[15:41] <noren_> hi akk
[15:41] <noren_> al
[15:41] <buzul> hi
[15:41] <pac1> yup_ google create mountpoint else mkdir yada/yada/yada/mymountpoint
[15:41] <buzul> i have a queestion
[15:41] <stroyan> BlackDex: Given a lack of meaningful line separators, you may want to use grep "-b" and "--binary-files=text" options.
[15:42] <BlackDex> stroyan: Thx that worked :D
[15:42] <noren_> !hi ! bazul
[15:42] <ortsvorsteher> !ask | buzul
[15:42] <pac1> yup_, you are not alone...
[15:42] <BlackDex> the pattern file i mean
[15:42] <buzul> how can i use vista on ubuntu,i use double os and want to use visual studio that on vista
[15:43] <yup_> i refuse to give up and use windows lol
[15:43] <auntieNeo> erUSUL: I tried the line "iface eth1" but it didn't work
[15:43] <auntieNeo> oh, I guess you have to do inet manual
[15:43] <buzul> how
[15:43] <pac1> yup_, me too, but gnucash broke the camel's back.  Now I'm using Quicken again.
[15:43] <erUSUL> auntieNeo: "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[15:43] <acicula> buzul: you can use wine to start windows programs
[15:43] <noren_> buzul:   try it wine if it open up with that. visual studio being heavy software i doubt it will
[15:44] <buzul> i installed wine but doent work
[15:44] <auntieNeo> erUSUL: naw, I want them down
[15:44]  * cemunal does latest ubuntu kernel support 0c45:613c Microdia driver? Can i use 0c45:613c Microdia webcam with ubuntu?
[15:44] <auntieNeo> so I did "iface eth1 inet manual" and it basically does nothing
[15:44] <dougl2> currently trying to trouble shoot my internet connection (cannot upload test @ www.speedtest.net) but I cannot seem to configure dhcp on my ubuntu 8.04 box - any suggestions?
[15:44] <acicula> buzul: did you install visual studio in wine, or did you try to run the installed studio from the windows partition?
[15:44] <clueneeded> OK... let's try this again:  my ubuntu 8.10 is running on a vesa driver.  I have a 82845G/GL intel video chip.  What do i do to make ubuntu switch to video drivers to that chip rather than vesa?
[15:44] <tk3>  clear
[15:44] <tk3> ls
[15:44] <erUSUL> auntieNeo: if you do not put a "auto eth1" on the file thay wont come up automatically
[15:44] <Gouranga> hello, I would like to boot into Ubuntu with the command noapic without having to change command line kernel, is there a text file I can edit that allows me to do this ? thanks
[15:44] <clueneeded> swich to using, i mean
[15:44] <pac1> I saw a screenshot today of xp/linux on a compiz cube.
[15:45] <Photoguy> Why can't I use "Make usb start up disk" with other .iso files?
[15:45] <yup_> i feel weird when i have run windows, it's a bad feeling
[15:45] <auntieNeo> erUSUL: I beg to differ, they just did :P
[15:45] <dougl2> ... when I manually configure my wired connection to use dhcp I cannot ping www.google.ca
[15:45] <buzul> acicula:emm i dont know how wine recognize vs
[15:45] <auntieNeo> dougl2: cat your /etc/resolv.conf and see if you have good nameservers
[15:45] <auntieNeo> dougl2: a common problem is that dhcp servers give out crappy nameservers
[15:46] <dougl2> auntieNeo, chekcing now thanks
[15:46] <auntieNeo> (good ones to use are 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2)
[15:46] <noren_> buzul: u gotta install the VS in linux first to use it
[15:46] <clueneeded> whoops... never mind, gotta go
[15:46] <Photoguy> Why can't I use "Make usb start up disk" with other .iso files?
[15:46] <pac1> yup_ for me that's called "work"
[15:46] <acicula> buzul: according to winehq visual studio has a very poor rating so it might not even work
[15:46] <pac1> Strange costumes, strange behavior,  yes I must be at work again.
[15:46] <clueneeded> never mind... I'm back  :)
[15:46] <buzul> hmmmm i see
[15:47] <auntieNeo> dougl2: here is the contents of mine:
[15:47] <clueneeded> my ubuntu 8.10 is running on a vesa driver. I have a 82845G/GL intel video chip. What do i do to make ubuntu switch to using video drivers to that chip rather than vesa?
[15:47] <auntieNeo> nameserver 4.2.2.1
[15:47] <auntieNeo> nameserver 4.2.2.2
[15:47] <buzul> acicula:    i installed mono but cant include windows lib on it
[15:47] <gabriel> why can't i see my newly installed themes in the appearance dialog? I drag and drop them into the dialogue, and it says it's installed, but then I cannot select the new theme, as no new themes are visible??
[15:48] <CrAzYG33K> hey all
[15:48] <WulfKnight> Hi
[15:48] <noren_> !intel
[15:48] <WulfKnight> Need some help by using the built in mail software in 8.10
[15:48] <Gouranga> how do I set up ubuntu so that it runs the noapic command as default at startup ?
[15:49] <Gouranga> do I have to edit a text file to do this ?
[15:49] <noren_> !ati ! clueneeded
[15:49] <Photoguy> Why can't I use "Make usb start up disk" with other .iso files, like other distros?
[15:49] <dougl2> auntieNeo, ok I added them at the top of the list - so it should check those first
[15:49] <dougl2> ?
[15:49] <clueneeded> noren:  ??????
[15:49] <auntieNeo> dougl2: probably
[15:49] <clueneeded> noren: what does that mean?
[15:49] <Scooma> WulfKnight, you mean evolution?
[15:49] <iCNPunk> Photoguy: edit your fstab file
[15:49] <Photoguy> fstab?
[15:49] <Photoguy> Where is it?
[15:50] <iCNPunk> yup /etc/fstab
[15:50] <pac1> buzul, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906733
[15:50] <Photoguy> ok
[15:50] <SomePriest> So I've installed ubuntu.  I have a spare partition I'm going to install Windows on.  What advance steps can I take so I can boot from Grub after I install Windows into the other partition on this same drive?
[15:50] <noren_> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:50] <WulfKnight> Scooma: Right. We've tried out, to install your OS on several systems. Everytime the same issue. If We've installed openSuSE the issue is not there.
[15:50] <iCNPunk> Photoguy make the volume autofs is fine
[15:50] <yup_> im still cofused on how to mount this damn ntfs drive lol
[15:50] <buzul>  than k you ...><pac1>
[15:50] <archman> guys, how can I connect ubuntu machine to xp machine wirelessly via router?
[15:50] <acicula> SomePriest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[15:50] <noren_> !grub | SomePriest
[15:51] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: Huh, how?
[15:51] <sebsebseb>  
[15:51] <RickZilla> One thing preventing me from switching to ubuntu 100% completely is that Audacity is having a tough time producing any sound.  Been researching the issue, and it looks like several others are running into the same problem with Dell notebooks.  Too bad, maybe that support will be here some day.
[15:52] <SomePriest> acicula noren_ Thank you.
[15:52] <sebsebseb> RickZilla: some people get sound issues, but  most people are fine with sound in Ubuntu
[15:52] <iCNPunk> Photoguy: add a line just like this: /dev/cdrom    /media/CDROM  autofs   default   0 0
[15:52] <clueneeded> Noren: what the heck is a !ati !
[15:52] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: actually I'm using an  .iso file, not a cd
[15:52] <__8472> hi, how do i find if the system service/daemon - postfix in my case is running in the chroot-ed enviroment?
[15:52] <acicula> SomePriest: since you already installed ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Recovering%20GRUB%20after%20reinstalling%20Windows is the most relevant section i guess
[15:52] <thiebaude> clueneeded: graphics card
[15:52] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: you again :d
[15:52] <yup_> what is the first thing i need to to when mounting a ntfs external drive
[15:52] <thiebaude> !ati
[15:53] <acicula> thiebaude: he's got an intel card
[15:53] <clueneeded> noren: sebsebseb: I may have to give up trying to fix my resolution problem  :(
[15:53] <iCNPunk> Photoguy , that will be :   ****/*.iso    /media/CDROM   loop  default  0 0
[15:53] <acicula> maybe you can specify the untel driver in the xorg.conf
[15:53] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: ok
[15:53] <__8472> hi, how do i find if the system service/daemon - postfix in my case is running in the chroot-ed enviroment?
[15:53] <clueneeded> I replaced "vesa" with "intel" in xorg.conf...  that hosed teh machine...
[15:54] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: ah yes Xorg issues
[15:54] <iCNPunk> Photoguy, or you just add a startup script : sudo mount   ****/*.iso    /media/CDROM   -oloop
[15:54] <yup_> how do i make a dir ?
[15:54] <thiebaude> clueneeded: which ubuntu version are you using?
[15:54] <clueneeded> i jsut want this machine to "learn" i have an intel video card and use the driver for it
[15:54] <acicula> __8472: it's not by default, but i think chroot shows up as a process
[15:54] <clueneeded> 8.10
[15:55] <clueneeded> thiebaude:  8.10
[15:55] <thiebaude> i have intel i815 and have no problems in 8.10
[15:55] <acicula> clueneeded: probably why it defaulted to vesa :/
[15:55] <__8472> acicula: i know that postfix isn't running in chroot by default. but i've made steps to do so, and now i would like to see some "proof" that it realy does
[15:55] <RickZilla> sebsebseb:  Sound works great with ubuntu on my laptop.  It's Audacity that's having issues with it.
[15:56] <Photoguy> Argh, How do I become root user?
[15:56] <Photoguy> No in the terminal
[15:56] <Photoguy> *not
[15:56] <yup_> sudo
[15:56] <zimboe> gksu command
[15:56] <clueneeded> acicula: how to force this OS to recognise my intel card?
[15:56] <ortsvorsteher> !root | Photoguy
[15:56] <bpmarkham1> got a post-installation issue with intrepid (ubuntu and xubuntu) on my PS3. can anyone help?
[15:56] <RickZilla> sebsebseb:  I'm coming across some forum posts with others who have the same issues
[15:56] <dares> hey, anybody knows how make python2.5 by default to use?
[15:57] <yow|x2> what is it bpmarkham1 ?
[15:57] <gsteinert> 'there is no root password'.... unless you change it =P...
[15:57] <dougl2> bpmarkham1, can you play mkv files on ps3 then?
[15:57] <iCNPunk> dares, may be sudo dpkg-reconfigure ****
[15:57] <acicula> __8472: actually i just looked chroot doesnt show up, heh
[15:58] <yow|x2> dougl2 - mkv files can barely be played on anything, let alone on a ps3, lol
[15:58] <bpmarkham1> i'm trying to run updates but it keeps freezing in the same spot. when i try to run from command promt it freezes at "processing triggers for man-db" and when i run from update manager it freezes at "setting up login (1:4.1.1-1ubuntu1.2)
[15:58] <__8472> acicula: yeap, even when i restart entire postfix, still being showed up as running beneath root
[15:58] <acicula> clueneeded: i have no idea :/
[15:59] <a_> HII
[15:59] <acicula> __8472: that's not necesarily wrong
[15:59] <bpmarkham1> i've googled but can't seem to find much on anything
[15:59] <yow|x2> bpmarkham1 - pm me if you want
[15:59] <a_> OH REALLY!
[15:59] <bpmarkham1> tnks
[15:59] <acicula> __8472: postfix master runs as root here too, and chrooting it doesnt change that
[15:59] <clueneeded> acicula: where do I ask to get the answer
[15:59] <dougl2> yow|x2, yeah the 1080p ones give my box a electronic hernia
[15:59] <acicula> clueneeded: ubuntu forums is your best bet
[15:59] <yow|x2> dougl2 - tbh, i hate mkv containers
[16:00] <clueneeded> ok
[16:00] <yow|x2> i mux them into mpgs
[16:00] <zimboe> whats so bad about mkv?
[16:00] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: after adding the line, I still can't use the utilityit says "This is not a desktop install CD and thus cannot be used by this application."
[16:00] <kiss> please help
[16:00] <ortsvorsteher> !details | kiss
[16:01] <yow|x2> zimboe - that container is not compatible with hardly any devices and plus the container exerts a great deal on cpu's compared to say mpg
[16:01] <dougl2> yow|x2, tbh = ? I am getting to dispise them but have hopes with mythtv adn vdpau.
[16:01] <dares> iCNPunk, no :\ , nothing, i install python2.6 from source and now want to retreve python2.5
[16:01] <kiss> i want to download a shareware
[16:01] <kiss> mecaflux
[16:01] <Natovr> Afternoon :) I've got a problem with OpenOffice 3 and new language packages.. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and I followed a howto on the forum to install OpenOffice 3. I tried to install a few language packages, Afrikaans, German, and I think French too - but then OpenOffice seems to completely disappear from my system :(
[16:01] <iCNPunk> Photoguy, try loop==>autofs
[16:01] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | kiss
[16:01] <Natovr> guess I'm asking once per hour
[16:01] <nyu_> it seems ive lost my trash can
[16:01] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: in fstab?
[16:01] <yow|x2> dougl2 - tbh=to be honest. yeah, i pretty much hate them
[16:01] <nyu_> where is it located?
[16:02] <kiss> i dontt understand
[16:02] <zimboe> yow|x2 : thats true.
[16:02] <ortsvorsteher> kiss: which is your prefered language?
[16:02] <kiss> french
[16:02] <ortsvorsteher> !fr | kiss
[16:02] <__8472> acicula: yes. so, then how do i find out it's running in there?
[16:02] <__8472> hi, how do i find if the system service/daemon - postfix in my case is running in the chroot-ed enviroment?
[16:02] <kiss> thanks
[16:02] <WulfKnight> My problem persists. We've got problems with built in mail client in version 8.10 - Application crashs after clicking OK by editing mail account details
[16:02] <dougl2> yow|x2, :) tbh - thanks for the education.
[16:02] <ortsvorsteher> kiss: in french channel it would be more easey ...
[16:03] <iCNPunk> dares,  dpkg-reconfigure python-* with the source or kernel some stuff that's will reconfigure the default python verison
 ,yes
[16:03] <zimboe> bye
[16:03] <gabriel> is it possible to edit the "Places" menu?
[16:03] <gionnico> hi! what flags would you set for /var partition? is journal good for /var ?
[16:03] <gionnico> hi! what flags would you set for /var partition? is journal good for /var ?
[16:04] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: Still no.
[16:04] <Photoguy> Sorry
[16:04] <__8472> hi, how do i find if the system service/daemon - postfix in my case is running in the chroot-ed enviroment?
[16:04] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: It looks like this " /media/Daniel's Stuff_/OS ISOs    /media/CDROM   loop==>autofs default  0 0
[16:04] <yup_>  sudo mkdir <mount_point>
[16:04] <yup_>  sudo mount -t vfat -o defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000 <device> <mount_point>
[16:04] <salaga> hallo
[16:04] <yup_> that confuses me
[16:04] <yow|x2> dougl2 - i get xvid video files for my ps3 that are around 2gb at 720p and 5.1 sound, they are perfect. makes mkv pretty useless
[16:05] <iCNPunk> Photoguy, ...no I mean change the loop to auto
[16:05] <Snicks|TWw> for some reason my menu doesn't show one program after installing it, how could that be?
[16:05] <iCNPunk> sorry
[16:06] <dougl2> yow|x2, what do you use for your source - I am impressed with hellanzb but always looking for better :)
[16:06] <bong> anybody help! I setup Internet connection share, and can browse www.goole.com. But can't for www.Yahoo.com
[16:06] <yow|x2> dougl2 - torrents off a private site
[16:06] <gabriel> is it possible to edit the "Places" menu?
[16:07] <dougl2> yow|x2, I have just come full circle - lol...
[16:07] <__8472> hi, how do i find if the system service/daemon - postfix in my case is running in the chroot-ed enviroment?
[16:07] <NativeAngels> hello can anyone tell me what command i need to find libtcl.so and tcl.h from ubuntu shell
[16:08] <joaopinto> nat2610, you need the libtcl-dev package
[16:08] <joaopinto> ops, was for NativeAngels
[16:08] <dougl2> when ever torrents are active on my network it goofs up and starts disconnects and very un-reliable network performance.
[16:08] <Nevis> how can I run fsck on "/"?
[16:08] <acicula> __8472: dunno, remove something from your chroot and see if it breaks?
[16:08] <NativeAngels> for an eggdrop bot joaopinto
[16:08] <yow|x2> dougl2 - most likely that is because your torrent settings are too aggressive. that used to happen to me before too.
[16:09] <joaopinto> nat2610, eggdrop is available from the repositories, you do not need to compile it
[16:09] <joaopinto> ops, NativeAngels
[16:09] <jrib> NativeAngels: eggdrop is in the repositories.  use apt
[16:09] <acicula> NativeAngels: locate libtcl.so
[16:09] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: Didn't work, even after saving
[16:09] <yow|x2> dougl2 - some torrent clients come with too aggressive settings by default, ubuntu uses transmission by default which i find is pretty good
[16:09] <dougl2> yow|x2, oh? ... do you have a good read on it ie - suggest a url?
[16:09] <iCNPunk> Photoguy, check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329215
[16:09] <disappearedng> Hey everyone I am getting the following error when I boot: kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/e36d1814-f2774be..... kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
[16:09] <disappearedng> x doesn't start itself
[16:09] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: ok
[16:10] <sdf2> ok some pro people should answer me
[16:10] <yow|x2> dougl2 - i would try tranmissions if you havent already and see if you get a decent result
[16:10] <yow|x2> transmission*
[16:10] <dougl2> yes I was using transmission but mac uses azureus/vuse and there is a windows box here that I don;t even look at so I dont have a clue
[16:10] <sdf2> why is that, >>> pulse audio recognize my soundcard, everything is fine, but not my mic, it recognizes 2 capture devices anyhow i set them my mic isn't working, maybe it doesn't recognize my mic?
[16:11] <NativeAngels> i tried locate but got not no output
[16:11] <kedare> Hi all, somebody use openoffice math's here ? :)
[16:11] <iCNPunk> Photoguy, the latest solution is /home/car/r/II.iso	/home/car/r/II	udf,iso9660 user,loop	0	0
[16:11] <bong> anybody help! I setup Internet connection sharing(ICS), and can browse www.goole.com. But can't for www.yahoo.com.
[16:11] <NativeAngels> how do i install tcl if ive not done it right
[16:11] <Photoguy> iCNPunk: Thanks
[16:11] <acicula> NativeAngels: then your locate database is out of date (sudo updatedb) or it is not installed
[16:11] <disappearedng> any1 here can help?
[16:11] <iCNPunk> Photoguy :D
[16:12] <yow|x2> dougl2 - if you want more info, pm me so we arent off topic in here
[16:12] <kedare> nobody ? :(
[16:12] <divXjunky> hello ppl of ubuntu!  i run vsftpd, and i can't seem to set i to listen to different ports then 20/21. i can use '/etc/init.d/vsftpd restart' to apply changes to the config, but if i add 'listen_port=xxxx' to it, the deamon won't even start anymore.. somebody around who knows why this happens??
[16:12] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found).
[16:13] <yup_> i installed ntfs config but it still won't mount the drive
[16:13] <dougl2> bong - nano /etc/resolve.conf and put nameserver 4.2.2.1 and nameserver 4.2.2.2 in there and see if that helps
[16:13] <NativeAngels> how do i install locate database then ?
[16:13] <Conan> NativeAngels: you can find any file on your drive using, sudo find / -name <filename>
[16:13] <Nevis> I'm trying to run fsck on my root partition, and it fails because it's mounted as read-write or something. how can I fsck my root partition? Thanks.
[16:13] <job> is there a package for GTKMozembed?  Thanks
[16:14] <darnell> t
[16:14] <jrib> Nevis: touch /forcefsck   and then reboot
[16:14] <dougl2> yow|x2, I'll quit bugging you - I was wondering if we where ot... thanks for the info will try using transmission under 8.04 for all my needs adn see if that helps :)
[16:15] <bong> dougl2: I am trying, and will inform to you soon
[16:15] <yow|x2> dougl2 - transmission can be used in mac too iirc, np for the info
[16:15] <kedare> nobody use openoffice math here ?
[16:16] <NativeAngels> i did install tcl
[16:16] <acicula> NativeAngels: apt-cache policy tcllib says
[16:16] <beyta> hye guys
[16:16]  * dougl2 googling mac iirc
[16:16] <beyta> i have a problem
[16:17] <crdlb> job: are you building something against it?
[16:18] <mikeshollen> Is there a way to Ghost my OS so that I can reinstall it with all the programs and modifications I've made rather than starting from scratch again?  I'm running Ubuntu Hardy.
[16:18] <NativeAngels> acicula thats the result of that command http://paste.ubuntu.com/131619/
[16:18] <joaopinto> mikael79, you can use partimage to create a system image
[16:18] <MenZa> to load the i810 driver, do I just modprobe it and then restart X?
[16:18] <joaopinto> ops, was mikeshollen
[16:19] <mikeshollen> what's the difficulty level joaopinto?
[16:19] <crdlb> MenZa: you have a pre-i915 intel gpu?
[16:19] <jrib> NativeAngels: did you miss what I said?
[16:19] <NativeAngels> no
[16:19] <job> crdlb,  trying to run utube screenlet.  installing gnome-extras resolved it.  thanks
[16:19] <NativeAngels> yes sorrty
[16:19] <joaopinto> mikeshollen, you need to boot from a live cd, install and run partimage from the console, it's easy to use
[16:19] <jrib> NativeAngels: eggdrop is in the repositories.  use apt
[16:19] <MenZa> crdlb: I have a 945GM, if that's what you mean
[16:20] <NativeAngels> apt what ?
[16:20] <crdlb> job: ah, you needed pygtkmozembed
[16:20] <mikeshollen> can i install it from synaptic first?
[16:20] <jrib> NativeAngels: you know about apt?
[16:20] <NativeAngels> apt get install etc etc
[16:20] <job> crdlb: correct!
[16:20] <joaopinto> mikeshollen, yes
[16:20] <gabriel> why doesn't the themes also change my task bar color and appearance?
[16:20] <MenZa> crdlb: I'm pretty sure it's the i810 driver I want
[16:21] <crdlb> MenZa: well, that uses the i915 kernel module, which should be automatically loaded; are you trying to switch to the older i810 driver instead of intel?
[16:21] <jrib> NativeAngels: yeah...
[16:21] <NativeAngels> ok
[16:21] <NativeAngels> i have the eggdrop files already
[16:21] <MenZa> crdlb: I'm just seeing that I can't start Compiz and that World of Goo runs at 1FPS, which leads me to believe my kernel module isn't loaded
[16:22] <dougl2> been irc'ing for more than 10 years and I still dunno all the acronyms
[16:22] <crdlb> MenZa: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:22] <thiebaude> MenZa: you using intel 810 card?
[16:22] <NativeAngels> this is what i get when i do ./configure http://paste.ubuntu.com/131621/
[16:22] <Nevis> thanks
[16:23] <MenZa> thiebaude: I'm using an Intel 945GM chip.
[16:23] <thiebaude> oh, ok MenZa
[16:23] <joaopinto> NativeAngels, you were already told several times to use the eggdrop version from the repositories, you do not need to compile from source
[16:23] <MenZa> crdlb: http://pastebin.com/m2a3c7281
[16:23] <noren_> wat ia eggdrop
[16:23] <MenZa> crdlb: It says 'intel'
[16:23] <joaopinto> NativeAngels, please read how to install software on Ubuntu, help.ubuntu.com
[16:24] <NativeAngels> ok
[16:24] <joaopinto> noren_, it's an irc bot software
[16:24] <Titan8990> !synaptic | NativeAngels
[16:24] <Aninka>  8-)
[16:24] <samurai_cheese> hi
[16:24] <crdlb> MenZa: (EE) intel(0): Cannot support DRI with frame buffer width > 2048.
[16:24] <jrib> NativeAngels:  you don't compile anything.  You just install eggdrop using apt
[16:24] <MenZa> crdlb: and that means... specifically?
[16:25] <Nevis> Thanks.
[16:25] <MenZa> (crdlb: here's my glxinfo as well → http://pastebin.com/m3df82193)
[16:25] <crdlb> MenZa: what is the combined horizontal resolution of all your monitors?
[16:25] <MenZa> crdlb: I'm ... running one monitor (laptop screen), and I have no idea
[16:25] <samurai_cheese> hey room I have an ubuntu problem.  my kubuntu 8.04 locked me out while upgrading to 8.10.  I would restart but I heard that's asking for a kernal error
[16:26] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, can you log in to the recovery mode?
[16:30] <jiffe20> nfs on one of my ubuntu machines is in a limbo state after it lost connection with it is still mounted but I can't access it and I can't remount it.  Anyone have any idea how I might fix that without rebooting?
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> well titan I want to get to konsole
[16:30] <crdlb> MenZa: hmm, anything weird in the Screen section of your xorg.conf? like a Virtual line?
[16:30] <Titan8990> jiffe20, it is not likely... NFS is treated as an internal device, not suppossed to lose connection
[16:30] <joaopinto> jiffe20, my experience with those kind of NFS problems, is, reboot
[16:30] <MenZa> nope, crdlb
[16:30] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, a real terminal works just fine
[16:30] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, can you log in to the recovery mode?
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> I've heard that by getting to console I can kill kdesktop_login
[16:30] <rashed2020> Does anyone have any good guides on how to forward ports? I'm trying to forward from an ubuntu box to another internal machine
[16:30] <MenZa> although that might be because I just dpkg-reconfigured it, crdlb
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> hmm how would you do that?
[16:30] <rashed2020> Words to search for are just as good
[16:30] <acicula> rashed2020: iptables
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> sorry n00b here
[16:30] <MenZa> crdlb: I can restart X, if you'd like me to
[16:30] <crdlb> MenZa: run sudo dexconf, then restart X
[16:30] <acicula> rashed2020: though i'm sure there is an internet connection sharing tool or the likes that can do it for you graphically
[16:30] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, maybe I misundertood your initial problem
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> all I can get to right now is the unlock box from screen saver
[16:30] <rashed2020> acicula: Can I use iptables and ufw at the same time?
[16:30] <MenZa> crdlb: brb.
[16:30] <jiffe20> ok
[16:30] <acicula> rashed2020: ufw uses iptables under the hood
[16:30] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, hit CTRL+ALT+F1
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> cool thanks titan
[16:30] <acicula> afaik ufw doesnt touch your own rules
[16:30] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, and if you can boot at all, you are not getting a kernel panic
[16:30] <rashed2020> Great, thanks!
[16:30] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, I think I might have a misunderstanding of your problem
[16:30] <MenZa> crdlb: done
[16:30] <mikeshollen> joaopinto: would you please point me to a good how to for using partimage to create a reinstallation disc for my OS with all my changes?
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> okay it asks for login
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> it boots
[16:30] <joaopinto> mikeshollen, why do you need to rinstall in the first place :) ?
[16:30] <MenZa> crdlb: well, now Compiz activates - I'll check World of Goo
[16:30] <samurai_cheese> titan: if I kill the process from here I can get back into my desktop?
[16:31] <joaopinto> mikeshollen, google.com: how to use partimage
[16:31] <MenZa> crdlb: that did it - thanks a ton. :)
[16:32] <mikeshollen> joaopinto: I do not need to reinstall, however, I would like to find a way to create a disc to install Ubuntu with all the programs and changes I have made to my system so once I get the system the way I want it I won't have to go through nearly as much effort and spend as much time reinstalling if something goes wrong
[16:32] <mikeshollen> joaopinto: also, at some point I would like to build a linux lab, and it would be nice to be able to install from an image so I only have to set one machine up instead of the entire lab, but for home use I would rather put it on a disc than use the server method since I only have one linux machine
[16:32] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, so the problem is that you can't log in or graphics are failing??
[16:33] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, I still have a poor understanding of your issue
[16:33] <Titan8990> samurai_cheese, you have lost your password?
[16:33] <samurai_cheese> hmm okay titan
[16:33] <joaopinto> mikeshollen, partimage does not provide the "bootable disk" part, you will need to use a livecd and manually install the image
[16:33] <orangey> hey all!
[16:33] <samurai_cheese> well I was trying to update from 8.04 to 8.10 last night
[16:33] <orangey> what do people use for P2PTV on ubuntu?
[16:34] <etb> are there widgets for gnome?
[16:34] <mikeshollen> joaopinto: so I would start the installation from the live CD and then point it at a disc image that I would save on a seperate disc with partimage?
[16:34] <samurai_cheese> so I left my laptop on.  Usually it goes straight into screensaver lock mode which is fine.  But this morning it resulted in an error when I tried to login.  Cannot authenticate password, must kill kdesktop_lock to continue
[16:34] <mikeshollen> etb: you can create your own with compiz
[16:35] <gluxon1> What's the command to start gnome panels?
[16:35] <joaopinto> mikeshollen, actually you can backup a from a live system, as long you don't do heavy changes, like installing packages, etc
[16:35] <gluxon1> My panels won't load!!! :(
[16:35] <joaopinto> but its safer to do it offline, with a livecd
[16:35] <Frederick> folks can I have some help resinstalling grub with the live cd?
[16:35] <nick_nick> is there a specific script that gets run during the livecd boot process that configures hardware?
[16:35] <acicula> mikeshollen: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html ?
[16:35] <mikeshollen> joaopinto: what do you mean?
[16:35] <joaopinto> mikeshollen, yes, you just need to select the backup target partition, for the destination you just provide a system path
[16:35] <gluxon1> So what's the commands? :(
[16:36] <acicula> gpanel
[16:36] <gluxon1> Thanks.
[16:36] <etb> are gdesklets compatible with os x's dashboard / vista gadgets?
[16:36] <acicula> wait it's not
[16:36] <mikeshollen> joaopinto: so the image has to be sitting on the hard disc on a separate partition instead of on a CD?
[16:36] <gluxon1> Details: Failed to execute child process "gpanel" (No such file or directory)
[16:36] <acicula> gnome-panel :)
[16:36] <gluxon1> Okay.
[16:36] <gluxon1> I'll try that.
[16:37] <quibbler> gluxon1: have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41640
[16:38] <joaopinto> mikael79, yes
[16:38] <joaopinto> ops, mikeshollen yes
[16:38] <Frederick> Folks I need help with grub
[16:38] <ortsvorsteher> !grub | Frederick
[16:38] <quibbler> !grub
[16:38] <elashish> i just installed 8.04 dual boot on an old toshiba (256MB RAM) and power dies after booting - any ideas why?
[16:38] <ortsvorsteher> !details | Frederick
[16:38] <goiano> alguem do basil
[16:38] <joaopinto> !br | goiano
[16:39] <goiano> to tentando so q nao consigo
[16:39] <acicula> elashish: power dies is kinda non descript, what exactly does happen
[16:39] <elashish> exactly that... everything just turns off
[16:40] <elashish> as if you pulled the plug or something
[16:40] <acicula> elashish: you push button, do you see the bios?
[16:40] <elashish> yes it powers off after logging in
[16:40] <acicula> elashish: after logging into ubuntu?
[16:40] <elashish> right
[16:41] <acicula> elashish: it's on ac constantly?
[16:41] <uski> hi; is there a way to check the upgrade history of a given package? a relative upgraded his ubuntu distro and now the display is broken (vertical lines on the screen right after X started), and all I got is ssh access to the computer - i assume the nvidia driver got updated recently, but i'd like to check that it was actually upgraded
[16:41] <elashish> acicula: correct
[16:41] <acicula> elashish: does it happen when you boot into recovery?
[16:41] <acicula> mode
[16:41] <null-program> elashish:  So basically you turn on the computer, then it goes through a few processes, then shuts down?  sounds like the heat sink on your processor may need some replacing
[16:41] <_VIM_>  /quit
[16:42] <elashish> it's possible that it's overheating, but XP runs okay on it
[16:42] <joaopinto> uski, check /var/log/dpkg.log
[16:42] <uski> ty
[16:42] <elashish> acicula how do i do that - from grub?
[16:42] <null-program> oh...hmmm
[16:42] <acicula> null-program: yeah i'm leaning towards that too, it's either a driver crash, or overheating
[16:42] <acicula> elashish: yeah in grub try the rescue option
[16:42] <acicula> then select the option to give you a root shell or shell once it boots
[16:42] <elashish> acicula okay brb
[16:43] <uski> joaopinto, thanks, the nvidia package has been upgraded, i guess i should file a bug against it
[16:43] <acicula> null-program: if it's heat it should bomb out in the shell eventually, but maybe X is causing the system to crash/reboot?
[16:43] <null-program> could be.  If XP runs fine I think it's probably a driver problem
[16:43] <acicula> yeh that would be my next question too
[16:44] <elashish> acicula: I'm in root shell and it's fine, what now
[16:44] <null-program> did you install anything before this happened or change anything?
[16:44] <elashish> nope, from a clean install of 8.04
[16:44] <noiz> Hi, i was thinking if someone could help me whit graphics , i play counter strike nonsteam 1.6 on wine to be specific but the fps(frames per second)  is terrible compared to windows, as far as i have gotten help people have told that linux is not using my video card right or something. so i hope i can find help here :d
[16:44] <elashish> er, 8.04.2 actually
[16:44] <sps> i want help on internal mic not working on ubuntu
[16:45] <acicula> elashish: what was on the laptop before you reinstalled?
[16:45] <elashish> acicula: XP
[16:45] <acicula> any problems with that?
[16:45] <noiz>  counter strike nonsteam 1.6 on wine to be specific but the fps(frames per second)  is terrible compared to windows, as far as i have gotten help people have told that linux is not using my video card right or something. so i hope i can find help here :d i have a ATI radeon 9200
[16:45] <elashish> yeah, it was slow ;-) but nothing else
[16:46] <acicula> what gpu is in the laptop?
[16:46] <sps> can somebody help with mic settings
[16:46] <null-program> xp was slow?  I'm guessing this is a pretty old computer then?
[16:46] <noiz> -254-124.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has left #ubuntu
  counter strike nonsteam 1.6 on wine to be specific but the fps(frames per second)  is terrible compared to windows, as far as i have gotten help people have told that linux is not using my video card right or something. so i hope i can find help here :d i have a ATI radeon 9200
[16:46] <quibbler> noiz: you can I think better ask in #winehq
[16:46] <chack-1> hello all
[16:46] <elashish> acicula: 855GM Intel integrated graphics
[16:46] <chack-1> i have probleme with ps
[16:47] <noiz> quibbler well it is not the wines fault ,i mean wine does not do graphics n etc , but il try
[16:47] <chack-1> i used ( ps aux | grep "^mysql" | tr -s ' ' | cut -f3 -d ' '  )
[16:47] <chack-1> and i have the same value all the time
[16:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Anyone every solved the issue of a machine resuming immediately when it suspends, or seen any hints as to PM_TIMER issues to cause such a thing?
[16:47] <sps> hello all
[16:47] <sebsebseb> sps: hello
[16:48] <sps> can somebody help me with mic settings
[16:48] <Frederick> ortsvorsteher: the partitionerdoes not work as descreibed
[16:49] <acicula> elashish: if you dont actually login, but just let the machine load the logon screen, does it crash/hang or reboot?
[16:49] <Zupp> fsfsdfsdfsd http://ptlancer.freehostia.com/
[16:50] <elashish> acicula: let me try
[16:51] <acicula> elashish: dont really have a clue as how to solve it though, seems there's an issue with the graphics, could try ubuntu 8.10, it has a better intel driver?
[16:51] <makeitfunky> hi
[16:51] <sebsebseb> makeitfunky: hi
[16:51] <acicula> elashish: graphics driver even
[16:51] <joaopinto> any idea how to install mysql-server non interactively ?
[16:51] <makeitfunky> what is pci bridge in lspci?
[16:52] <ortsvorsteher> Frederick: and what means this exactly? what happens?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[16:52] <elashish> acicula: it's a very old machine, only 256MB RAM, will it run okay?
[16:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yo yo yo
[16:52] <makeitfunky> i would like to identify my pcmcia card reader .....
[16:52] <elashish> aha it just died again
[16:52] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | ActionParsnip
[16:52] <ortsvorsteher> ;)
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> :D
[16:52] <makeitfunky> can somebody help me?
[16:52] <acicula> elashish: not really :/
[16:52] <noiz> Hi, i was thinking if someone could help me whit graphics , i play counter strike nonsteam 1.6 on wine to be specific but the fps(frames per second)  is terrible compared to windows, as far as i have gotten help people have told that linux is not using my video card right or something. so i hope i can find help here :d
[16:52] <_polto_> hello all
[16:52] <acicula> elashish: maybe a little better with xfce
[16:52] <ortsvorsteher> acicula: just ask an describe what happens
[16:53] <sebsebseb> _polto_: hello
[16:53] <elashish> acicula: maybe a lighter distro?
[16:53] <elashish> acicula: LXDE might work too
[16:53] <makeitfunky> i have :  Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[16:53] <acicula> elashish: worth trying i suppose , but i dont know any
[16:53] <makeitfunky> wich card is it?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> noiz: do yuo have wine from the wine repos?
[16:54] <vocx> Ubuntu 8.10, I have the Disk Mounter applet in my top panel. I have an Audio disk mounted. If I click on it and select Play CD the "Disk Mounter" applet quits and I can choose to reload it. Anybody can try this on their system? Perhaps it's a bug, or just my system.
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> noiz: are youu running compiz?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> acicula: lxde is awesome, fluxbox is also another option
[16:54] <noiz> actionparsnip i have no idea :d
[16:54] <_polto_> I have a technical/political question... Does (K)Ubuntu have non-free repository enabled by default?  Or is it added automatically only if some unsupported hardware is detected and is known to work with proprietary drivers ?
[16:54] <elashish> okay, thank you all, I'll try installing something else
[16:55] <noiz> actionparsnip i dont run compwiz
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> noiz: do you have a desktopp cube and wobbly windows?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> noiz: good
[16:55] <quibbler> makeitfunky: paste the output of lspci
[16:55] <noiz> actionparsnip yeah i know, i can help you helping me, becouse i know what may be the problem
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> noiz: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[16:55] <quibbler> !pastebin | makeitfunky
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> noiz: the wine in the ubuntu repo is ancient, use the wine off the oficial wine repo, its much slicker
[16:55] <noiz> actionparsnip i was told once that my video card is not rendering the 3d's
[16:55] <vocx> _polto_, I guess the idea is to have free software, so I believe, NO there is no non-free enabled by default.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> noiz: have you installed video drivers?
[16:55] <makeitfunky> !pastebin
[16:56] <noiz> actionparsnip not really
[16:56] <_polto_> vocx: I have to be sure about that..
[16:56] <noiz> actionparsnip i am using some oldschool ati ones from linux
[16:56] <makeitfunky> i don't know how to use pastbin
[16:56] <noiz> actionparsnip and i have no idea how to update nor change em
[16:56] <noiz> actionparsnip and i think i got one of the oldest wine versions :d
[16:56] <vocx> _polto_, well you could install a fresh copy of 8.10 and see for your self.
[16:57] <_polto_> vocx:  yeh... was trying to preserve some time.. asking people who knows .. ;)
[16:57] <noiz> actionparsnip the thing is i am not the smartest guy on ubuntu :)
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> noiz: follow the guide to add the wine repo
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> noiz: if you havent installed vdeo drivers then you will get poor fps
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> noiz: well its time to learn
[16:58] <makeitfunky> what i must do after i paste in pastebin???
[16:58] <vocx> _polto_, difficult to remember the default options, since inevitably one ends up installing a lot of stuff.
[16:58] <noiz> actionparsnip well i dont know where to get the drivers, for ati radeon 9200
[16:58] <crdlb> noiz: the only driver available is the one you have
[16:58] <quibbler> makeitfunky: do not pm me please
[16:59] <noiz> crdlb i guessed so :d
[16:59] <_polto_> vocx: do you have non-free enabled and if yes, do you remember why ? (ex: wifi drivers, ..)
[16:59] <Mad_Wilson> Hi! This got to be the 6th time I'm installing an Ubuntu OS and it never works for the same reason: gnome won't work, I don't get GUI. I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with hardware as everything works fine in LiveCD (I have GUI and everything). Any thoughts ?
[16:59] <noiz> actionparsnip what will i do whit interpid?
[16:59] <makeitfunky> ok
[16:59] <makeitfunky> sorry
[16:59] <crdlb> the open source dirver doesn't support all the OpenGL features that fglrx does, and not at the same speed either
[16:59] <crdlb> driver*
[16:59] <makeitfunky> what must i do to give you my lspci?
[16:59] <quibbler> makeitfunky: give us the url here
[17:00] <noiz> actionparsnip wait you want me to upgrade my ubuntu or sumth?
[17:00] <makeitfunky> i've paste on the site
[17:00] <makeitfunky> ok
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> noiz: no, just run: lspci | grep -i vga
[17:00] <makeitfunky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/131642/
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> noiz: whats it say
[17:00] <noiz> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)
[17:00] <makeitfunky> ok?
[17:00] <froggz> im runnin 8.10 and i want to lower the voltage on the laptop any ideas? its running at 18-20
[17:01] <noiz> actionparsnip hehe i already opened my pastebin becouse usually when i come here to look for help i always have to use it becouse mostly the helpers make you type some command
[17:01] <noiz> actionparsnip 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)
[17:01] <vocx> _polto_, no I have non-free (restricted) enabled for video codecs, not for hardware stuff.
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> !ati | noiz
[17:01] <makeitfunky> you can see my ldpci?
[17:01] <coreyman> anyone know a hack for firefox "open containing folder" on downloads window so that I can get it to work.
[17:02] <crdlb> ActionParsnip: fglrx doesn't support r200
[17:02] <quibbler> makeitfunky: yes it shows your card reader
[17:02] <_polto_> vocx: thank you!
[17:02] <noiz> actionparsnip what? :d
[17:02] <makeitfunky> ok can i ask you some question?
[17:02] <noiz> ubottu thank you i will try that too
[17:02] <noiz> actionparsnip oh haha it is a bot :d
[17:02] <makeitfunky> what is pci bridge?  why there are so many?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> noiz: i know i made him tell yu stuff
[17:03] <quibbler> makeitfunky: ask the room so everyone can hekp
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> makeitfunky: it onnects devices to the pci backbone
[17:03] <makeitfunky> that's what i do!!!!
[17:03] <makeitfunky> which one is my pcmcia reader?
[17:03] <_polto_> Is there a website to do polls about ubuntu ? I would like to know what % of users use restricted (non-free) software repository on Ubuntu and why do they do so. (codecs, hardware, ...)
[17:03] <noiz>  actionparsnip HAHAHA i opened hardware drivers and it tells i have no hardware drivers in use :d
[17:04] <Finnish_> Can someone help me to create a shared folder in virtualbox, I have win XP in virtualbox
[17:04] <crdlb> noiz: because the driver you're using is open source and bundled with ubuntu
[17:04] <sebsebseb> _polto_: nope, but you can find out  what closed source stuff you have installed by  using  vrms
[17:04] <noiz> Can somone tell me is ati radeon 9500 newer than the 9200 or older?
[17:04] <sebsebseb> Finnish_: your from suomi however it's splet
[17:04] <sebsebseb> spelt
[17:04] <crdlb> noiz: the 9500 is newer, as you might expect
[17:05] <makeitfunky> dharanamrs hello
[17:05] <eseven73>  you're*
[17:05] <crdlb> it's an r300
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Finnish_: it will be in  the virtualbox manual on their site
[17:05] <jed> hello all
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Finnish_: that you download from their site
[17:05] <sebsebseb> jed: hello
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> noiz: http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2006/02/07/dual-head-on-ati-radeon-9200-se-under-ubuntu/
[17:05] <_polto_> sebsebseb: thank you, but I am more interested to have a return from some xxxxx users.. ;)
[17:05] <Ndshacker> How do I run OSX on virtualbox
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> noiz: you will be wrestling with xorg.conf to get things rolling
[17:05] <jed> is anyone using jaunty alpha?
[17:05] <Ndshacker> It gives me that option, But I dont have a SX cd
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | jed
[17:06] <sebsebseb> jed: wrong channel
[17:06] <noiz> actionparsnip I ALWAYs mess up my xorg.conf every time i try to freaking fix my fps :d
 wich one is my pcmcia card reader? can you help me?
[17:06] <vocx> Ubuntu 8.10, I have the Disk Mounter applet in my top panel. I have an Audio disk mounted. If I click on it and select "Play CD" the Disk Mounter applet quits and I can choose to reload it. Anybody can try this on their system? Perhaps it's a bug, or just my system.
[17:06] <jed> that was just a question i'm not looking for any answer else :D
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> noiz: you will have the radeon driver already installed as part of a stock install
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> makeitfunky: run lsusb to identify pcmci devices
[17:06] <noiz>  actionparsnip wait so .. what i do now ?:d
[17:06] <Ndshacker> noiz: The Service is enabled by default.
[17:06] <TgWaKu> how do i stop ubuntu from coming up on my boot menu. tried to dual boot and ubuntu hdd died.
[17:07] <Ndshacker> edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> noiz: you need to run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:07] <sevenup> TgWaKu what's your other OS
[17:07] <sebsebseb> TgWaKu: ok that's weird, since how else are you going to boot Ubuntu?
[17:07] <TgWaKu> xp
[17:07] <noiz> actionparsnip but i am afraid to edit it :d
[17:07] <noiz> actionparsnip i always -**** things up in it :d
[17:07] <sebsebseb> TgWaKu: Ubuntu woudn't have cuased your hard disk to die
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> noiz: you need to copy sections of that xorg.conf I gave to make your system load the driver
[17:07] <homebaker> hi everybody
[17:08] <homebaker> i have a problem
[17:08] <noiz> actionparsnip ok
[17:08] <sebsebseb> TgWaKu: Grub can be set up to boot  Ubuntu and XP, and even the Windows bootloader can be
[17:08] <sebsebseb> !ask | homebaker
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> noiz: if you break it you can boot to recovery mode for your kernel and select repaid xorg
[17:08] <homebaker> i have 2 quad core servers running ubuntu 8.04
[17:08] <noiz> actionparsnip k done
[17:08] <homebaker> mysql-problem
[17:08] <noiz> actionparsnip wich part i edit?
[17:08] <crdlb> noiz: you're probably already using the driver
[17:08] <homebaker> is say to the console: mysql -u root -p -h master.virtulife.de
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> noiz: theres no other way with ati, nvidia has a nice gui app to do it but with ati you have to edit it yourself
[17:08] <homebaker> i enter the password and the server tries to connect to another server
[17:09] <homebaker> he tries to connect to hisself
[17:09] <homebaker> himself*
[17:09] <noiz> actionparsnip well i guess i have to try ? :d
[17:09] <elcMawr> !boot
[17:09] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip, if you were referring to generating a xorg, the ati utility is aticonf
[17:09] <homebaker> but if i make a ping, host or nslookup he shows me another IP
[17:09] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip, it does make a complete mess of xorg though
[17:09] <noiz> Actionparsnip Section "Device"
[17:09] <noiz> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Titan8990: ok there you go noiz, run aticonf
[17:09] <sebsebseb> _polto_: it should be obvous that most people have restricted stuff installed.  graphics card drivers, Adobe Flash, MP3 suppourt,  AVI supopurt, etc
[17:09] <mypavel> hello all. Sorry if the question is not about Ubuntu, If i add in my sudoers the string "ALL ALL = NOPASSWD: /home/my/script". After that all users can run shell-script without asking a pass, but not me, who there is in an admin group
[17:09] <chronic> is there something like kdesudo in gnome?
[17:09] <Suikwan> Can anyone help me connect to an AP with WPA?
[17:09] <LjL> !gksu | chronic
[17:09] <crdlb> noiz: glxinfo | egrep -i 'direct|software'
[17:09] <sebsebseb> !sudo | chronic
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> noiz: read the link I gave, you will see whats missing
[17:10] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip, aticonf --initial   for first time run
[17:10] <crdlb> noiz: what does that say?
[17:10] <Bacta> Does anyone have issues with the volume up or brightness up thingies sticking to the screen?
[17:10] <noiz> crdlb direct rendering: Yes
[17:10] <sdf2> why is that, pulseaudio recognizes, 2 capturing devices, and neither are working as my microphone
[17:10] <sdf2> what do do?
[17:10] <homebaker> what should i do with my mysql problem ??
[17:10] <Intelli> Whenever I use torrents, my wireless dies and my computer crashes. I am using a WG111v2 Netgear USB wireless card with the Windows98 driver using ndiswrapper.
[17:11] <chronic> LjL, sebastien_ thanks
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Titan8990: i just avoid ati due to their slowness at taking up open source OSEs
[17:11] <homebaker> why tries the mysql-client to connect to himself when i say to him that he should connect to another server
[17:11] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip, I usually do to, but didn't have a choice when I bought this toshiba for $50
[17:11] <Frozenball> When was the latest Ubuntu version released?
[17:11] <_polto_> sebsebseb: :( I know. I need this numbers for FSF.. We are just talking about some project and I would like to be able to speak not only about our ideals, but also about the reality.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Titan8990: nice deal
[17:11] <noiz> crdlb direct rendering: Yes
[17:11] <quibbler> Frozenball: 8.10
[17:11] <crdlb> noiz: I saw it the first time :)
[17:12] <Frozenball> dd.mm or mm.dd?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> _polto_: you work for the FSF?
[17:12] <Titan8990> ActionParsnip, yep, non-working window OS, the user actually thought the laptop was "broken" lol
[17:12] <_polto_> sebsebseb: No
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> hehehe
[17:12] <quibbler> Frozenball: year month
[17:12] <noiz> crdlb i am sorry , i am a impatient person :D i should try to be more patient :d but well oh im 15 n all :P
[17:12] <sebsebseb> _polto_: volunter for them?
[17:12] <crdlb> noiz: you apparently already have working 3d
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: but he's got shoddy fps
[17:12] <_polto_> sebsebseb: for Elphel (http://www.elphel.com), but we have some common projects.
[17:12] <noiz> crdlb but why is the fps so low
[17:12] <Frozenball> I'm assuming a new version will be released soon?
[17:12] <quibbler> Frozenball: next is 9.04  2009 april
[17:13] <Titan8990> !jaunty | Frozenball
[17:13] <noiz> crdlb the best i had on windows was 100 fps. atm i have 30-40
[17:13] <crdlb> ActionParsnip: 1) wine 2) open source driver
[17:13] <sebsebseb> _polto_: website did not work
[17:13] <Titan8990> noiz, are you trying to play a wine game?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> noiz: well you will always be a linux noob if you never get used to the nuts and bolts of the OS
[17:13] <Ndshacker> ;(
[17:13] <noiz> Actioparsnip i like to learn new stuff
[17:13] <Suikwan> Can anyone help me connect to an AP with WPA?
[17:14] <noiz> titan8990 i am running cs 1.6
[17:14] <nnewbiee> <--needs help
[17:14] <_polto_> sebsebseb: my life is almost dedicated to free software ;)
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> noiz: you need to copy a few lines from that link to your file, or use aticonf as Titan8990 said
[17:14] <Brinstar> has anyone used hamachi to play a game with someone on windows and got it to work?
[17:14] <Ndshacker> !ask | nnewbiee
[17:14] <sebsebseb> _polto_: how so?
[17:14] <crdlb> noiz: you can pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log but I doubt there's anything broken
[17:14] <_polto_> sebsebseb: http://www3.elphel.com/ , oups, the redirection is down..
[17:14] <noiz> crdlb lol youd be suprised
[17:14] <crdlb> ActionParsnip: aticonf is for fglrx, and other than dualhead, everything in that file is default
[17:14] <Titan8990> noiz, IMO, windows for gaming....  I play valve games myself, and its the only reason I still have a dual boot machine
[17:14] <Brinstar> i tried wippien, it was no good
[17:14] <_polto_> sebsebseb: :) by promoting and participating to FS..
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: col
[17:15] <majnoon> ?????????
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2006/02/07/dual-head-on-ati-radeon-9200-se-under-ubuntu/
[17:15] <Titan8990> crdlb, sorry, I thougt the user was using fglrx
[17:15] <Frozenball> I smell new religion rising
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: he's on a 9200 ati
[17:16] <sebsebseb> [17:15] <sebsebseb> _polto_: sure, but do you get paid for it?  also I didn't know this was possible www3
[17:16] <nnewbiee> how do i load the GUI from the command line interface that i now get when i try to boot ubuntu?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: all he has to do it create a single display instead of 2 like in that link
[17:16] <elashish> yeah, I've done some research on intel 855GM graphics, apparently they haven't always had great support
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> nnewbiee: startx
[17:16] <elashish> thanks for your help
[17:17] <crdlb> ActionParsnip: huh? by default, only one output is enabled
[17:17] <Intelli> Whenever I use torrents, my wireless dies and my computer crashes. I am using a WG111v2 Netgear USB wireless card with the Windows98 driver using ndiswrapper.
[17:17] <nnewbiee> thanks!
[17:17] <crdlb> (with automatic cloning to the secondary)
[17:17] <_polto_> sebsebseb: sure, FreeSoftware is not a dream.. you can consider it as a business model.
[17:17] <dontyoujusthatem> hi, how do i force bew identity in tor, without manually clicking "New Identity" button in Vidalia ?
[17:17] <noiz> Actionparsnip https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Radeon_9200/9250_(RV280)_and_DVI
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: i know but that ting shows the settings for the display adapter to load the radeon driver as well as the mode settings in the display section
[17:18] <dontyoujusthatem> hi, how do i force new identity in tor, without manually clicking "Use a New Identity" button in Vidalia ?
[17:18] <noiz> actionparsnip if i am not mistaking it is the answere maby?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> noiz: looks good
[17:18] <crdlb> ActionParsnip: but his problem isn't with the modes and the radeon driver _is_ getting loaded
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> noiz: give it a go
[17:18] <noiz> actionparsnip shure :) ty for the tips
[17:18] <crdlb> noiz: no, that's extremely out of date
[17:18] <crdlb> and your problem isn't broken DVI output anyway
[17:18] <noiz> crdlb well better than nothing?
[17:19] <noiz> crdlb ,any idea how old my video card and pc is?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> its worth a go
[17:19] <crdlb> no, what you have now is better than what you'll end up with when you break it (nothing) :)
[17:19] <crdlb> it's not
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> it can be easily uninstalled
[17:19] <noiz> Actionparse will you help me uninstall it?
[17:20] <noiz> Actionparse im on 8.04 LTS neways
[17:20] <trapline91> Can someone tell me how I can set firefox to always be at a certain resolution that fits the webpage so that I don't have to keep it at maximized on my 1680x1050 resolution monitor.
[17:20] <zxd> is there an unstable dev flavor of ubuntu , like debian unstable
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> trapline91: ive had success with holding ctrl+shift and click the X in top right
[17:20] <crdlb> noiz: that guide is modifying a specific block of code to fix DVI on an old release of the radeon driver
[17:21] <noiz> crdlb oh k
[17:21] <crdlb> noiz: that bug has undoubtedly been fixed long ago, and it's not related to your problem anyway
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> zxd: there jaunty which is in alpha and beta in a weeks time
[17:21] <noiz> crdlb good that i did not do anything :D
[17:21] <noiz> crdlb but that means ,again i am whit empty hands :D
[17:22] <Suikwan> Can anyone help me connect to an AP with WPA?
[17:22] <noiz> Actionparsnip I'm still reading the http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2006/02/07/dual-head-on-ati-radeon-9200-se-under-ubuntu/ page and i still cant get it what i need to change :d
[17:23] <dontyoujusthatem> hi, how do i force new identity in tor, without manually clicking "Use a New Identity" button in Vidalia ?
[17:23] <coty_> Can someone tell me how I can set firefox to always be at a certain resolution that fits the webpage so that I don't have to keep it at maximized on my 1680x1050 resolution monitor.
[17:23] <noiz> Actionparse maby you want to see my xorg.conf?
[17:23] <crdlb> noiz: your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be better
[17:24] <I2> anyone who knows a tutorial on linux crash command???? please help me
[17:24] <noiz> crdlb shure
[17:24] <noiz> crdlb how i open it? :d
[17:24] <crdlb> noiz: you can use any text editor
[17:24] <baz_> i would like it so that my user password is different from sudo, how can I do that?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> baz_: afaik thats not possible
[17:25] <zxd> ActionParsnip, I am just looking to backport the latest xfce to interpid ?
[17:25] <grkblood13> should df -h tell me the harddrive space i have?
[17:25] <zxd> I can take it from there , or should I take from debian unstable
[17:25] <acicula> grkblood13: yes
[17:25] <grkblood13> shoundt*
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> !info xfce4 jaunty
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> !info xfce4
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[17:26] <grkblood13> ok, well when i type that it tell me no such file or directory
[17:26] <grkblood13> tells*
[17:26] <noiz> crdlb damn it is big :D : it is taking so long to upload it to pastebin :D
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> zxd: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2008-August/006494.html
[17:27] <noiz> crdlb OMG
[17:27] <noiz> crdlb want to see a joke? i crashed it :O
[17:27] <noiz> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1523701 bytes) in /home/pastebin/lib/geshi/geshi.php on line 2355
[17:27] <grkblood13> also, an unrelated problem. whenever i reboot i keep getting with pop up for my wireless asking me for a password for some applet thing
[17:27] <grkblood13> it pops up a LOT and i cant get it to stop
[17:27] <Zedicus> When you right click on your gnome desktop it gives you options such as create folder/change desktop bg etc, how can i modify it to show only exactly what I want, for instance, if I only wanted it to show something like Open File Manager
[17:27] <Intelli> Whenever I use torrents, my wireless dies and my computer crashes. I am using a WG111v2 Netgear USB wireless card with the Windows98 driver using ndiswrapper.
[17:27] <noiz> crdlb what i do now ha
[17:27] <LjL> grkblood13: uhm, i had that issue once, in intrepid, after some upgrade... but then it went away at next reboot
[17:27] <baz_> ActionParsnip, that would be surprising
[17:28] <noiz> crdlb it is so big that i cant :O
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Intelli: i'd suggest the xp driver
[17:28] <noiz> crdlt i can not open it :O
[17:28] <grkblood13> im running intrepid
[17:28] <crdlb> noiz: whhich pastebin did you use?
[17:28] <noiz> crdlb http://pastebin.ca/1361561
[17:28] <noiz> crdlb i used .ca now
[17:28] <grkblood13> should i do sudo apt-get update?
[17:28] <Hortencia> How do I get jaunty to recognize that my headset is an audio device so I can use it in skype?
[17:28] <Natovr> I've got a problem with OpenOffice 3 and new language packages.. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, and I followed a howto on the forum to install OpenOffice 3. I tried to install a few language packages, Afrikaans, German, and I think French too - but then OpenOffice seems to completely disappear from my system :(
[17:28] <LjL> grkblood13: and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:29] <noiz> crdlb i am guessing it looks messy as hell ,somone told me once it does :d
[17:29] <zxd> ActionParsnip, that xfce is beta
[17:29] <pars> GeorgeA: es anyone have any ıdea how I could transfer the compatıbılıty settıng for Mınt 5 KDE lıve to my hard drıve ınstallatıon * It boots to tty and no further otherwıse and works perfectly ın lıve dısk mode
[17:29] <zxd> ActionParsnip, what's the problem backporting myself from jaunty
[17:29] <shad_> hello my ubuntu is detecting my usb drive could not able to mount it?
[17:30] <Zedicus> When you right click on your gnome desktop it gives you options such as create folder/change desktop bg etc, how can i modify it to show only exactly what I want, for instance, if I only wanted it to show something like Open File Manager
[17:30] <pars> Sorryö thank you
[17:30] <Zedicus> .
[17:30] <pars> I am new to thıs
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> zxd: are you running jaunty?
[17:31] <crdlb> noiz: looks good :/ it's even using AGP 8x, which is the fastest mode possible
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: yeah noticed that, looks good
[17:31] <H3l1c0pt3r> when i right click my gnome desktop i get a menu with options such as change wallpaper and open in terminal and create new folder etc. I want to be able to modify that menu to display only what I want, and to link to folders/programs for instance it would say instead, open firefox or open file mgr...
[17:31] <noiz> crdlb yeah but , when i open " hardware drivers" should there be any drivers there?
[17:31] <shad_> crdlb, will u help me to dolve my usb problem
[17:31] <noiz> crdlb but i am guessing maby it is because i am not using the latest wine?
[17:32] <crdlb> noiz: no, hardware drivers is generally just for proprietary drivers
[17:32] <crdlb> noiz: it might help, but it's not the real problem
[17:32] <Daft_Punk> when i right click my gnome desktop i get a menu with options such as change wallpaper and open in terminal and create new folder etc. I want to be able to modify that menu to display only what I want, and to link to folders/programs for instance it would say instead, open firefox or open file mgr...
[17:32] <noiz> crdlb ok ty, but what is the real problem?
[17:32] <zxd> ActionParsnip, no
[17:32] <crdlb> noiz: a not-very-fast video driver
[17:32] <Suikwan> Can anyone help me connect to an AP with WPA?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> noiz: i gave you the link foe the wine repo, have a go see if thats nicer
[17:33] <sysdoc> Zedicus, Here is a link that will help you http://www.ubuntugeek.com/switch-to-a-lightweight-filemanager.html
[17:33] <Daft_Punk> oh you can see my typing?
[17:33] <noiz> actionparsnip oh yeah ty
[17:33] <Daft_Punk> it keeps saying for me to talk, i have to register
[17:33] <noiz> actionparsnip do i need to reinstall my games onw ine after doing that?
[17:34] <noiz> actionparsesnip and btw i think i am on 8.04 not 8.10
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> no theyll be ok
[17:34] <azlon> are there any free open source/multiplayer games for linux?
[17:34] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found).
[17:34] <sysdoc>  Zedicus, Here is a link that will help you http://www.ubuntugeek.com/switch-to-a-lightweight-filemanager.html
[17:34] <noiz> actionparsnip and il delete the old wine software source?
[17:35] <azlon> not little games like what it comes with, but like red alert or Halflife or something
[17:35] <Ramesses> noiz, it's hard to tell which version you are on, i know; i don't even know for sure if it's linux [the kernel]
[17:35] <nnewbiee> when i startx from the command line the gui loads but the mouse is disabled!
[17:35] <acicula> azlon: nexuiz is a well known one
[17:35] <dnl> how to auto mount a windows partition everytime I reboot my ubuntu
[17:35] <noiz> ramesses 8.04 ubuntu hardy
[17:35] <Ramesses> noiz, nvm; sorry
[17:36] <Awsoonn_> how do I set up a bluetooth headset?
[17:36] <noiz> Actionparsesnip do you mean
[17:36] <noiz> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
[17:36] <noiz> ???
[17:36] <dayo> Ramesses: noiz:  lsb_release -d
[17:36] <dayo> Ramesses: noiz:  lsb_release -a
[17:36] <noiz> dayo yeah ty got it
[17:36] <StR|Sangreal> a simple offtopic question - is there a simple solution equivalent to youtube downloader? (download inbuilt flash video and convert it to mp3) ?
[17:37] <dayo> !ot | StR|Sangreal
[17:37] <Natovr1> hi.. I have an openoffice 3 problem o_O I installed it using a howto on the Ubuntu forums, and it worked :) but then I installed a few language packs (Af, De, and Fr, I think), then OpenOffice 3 seemed to totally disappear :( can anyone help me to get OpenOffice 3 back? using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit
[17:37] <StR|Sangreal> sorry
[17:37] <dnl> how to auto mount a windows partition everytime I reboot my ubuntu
[17:37] <sysdoc> StR|Sangreal, Firefox has addins that will allow you to download the flash file
[17:37] <Suikwan> Can anyone help me connect to an AP with WPA?
[17:38] <Natovr1> hi.. I have an openoffice 3 problem o_O I installed it using a howto on the Ubuntu forums, and it worked :) but then I installed a few language packs (Af, De, and Fr, I think), then OpenOffice 3 seemed to totally disappear :( can anyone help me to get OpenOffice 3 back? using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit
[17:38] <StR|Sangreal> i use opera and i would not like to convert to firefox, i need a standalone solution
[17:38] <Suikwan> I am only able to connect when there is no security
[17:39] <dennda> Any idea where handbrake stores temporary files?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> noiz: no just add the repo like the guide says then: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:39] <sysdoc> Suikwan, See if this will help ya http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu.html
[17:39] <Bacta> Is there a quick way to get two windows displaying side by side?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> !wpa | Suikwan
[17:40] <dennda> use a tiling window manaer, Bacta
[17:40] <dennda> *manager
[17:41] <noiz> actionparse i prefer to do it Administrator>update manager :P sorry bad windows habbits to use the icons :d
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> noiz: slowwwww
[17:41] <Suikwan> Thanks, I'll check these out ubottu/sysdoc
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> noiz: copy and paste the line into terminal, slick and fast
[17:41] <noiz> actionparsesnip i am upgrading
[17:42] <noiz> actionparse 154 things to download -.-
[17:42] <cwillu> noiz, nothing wrong with update manager, it's easier to work with than apt-get anyway (you can directly view changelogs, and decline particular updates that you know to cause issues)
[17:42] <noiz> cwillu k ty
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> noiz: this is why its slow too, your system is outdated
[17:42] <noiz> actionparsesnip not really not that long :P
[17:42] <noiz> actionparsesnip well maby yes :P
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> noiz: you may want to also run: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade too
[17:43] <noiz> actionparsesnip uu k good
[17:43] <alesan> hi, does ubuntu come with a gopher client?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> !gopher
[17:44] <Seveas> alesan, stop reading xkcd :)
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> !find gopher
[17:44] <RoastedTiresX> Does anybody use FOG on Ubuntu?
[17:44] <Seveas> alesan, and firefox can do gopher :)
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> !info gopher
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> alesan: sudo apt-get install gopher
[17:44] <nathan> hello?
[17:45] <alesan> Seveas, well it's more slashdot than xkcd
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> !hi | nathan
[17:45] <Cube3D> hi:)
[17:45] <alesan> ActionParsnip, do you know of a gopher site?
[17:45] <Nano_ext3> Hey
[17:45] <Guest13254> Identify natelee
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> alesan: i only know the client exists, its not something i use
[17:45] <Guest13254> IDENTIFY natelee
[17:46] <alesan> Guest13254, /msg nickserv identify password
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> !identify
[17:46] <Seveas> alesan, look on wikipedia for gopher. It lists some sites
[17:46] <alesan> ok thanks
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest13254: if you do that where there are no users we cant see your password if you mess up ;)
[17:46] <ivanof> hi
[17:46] <dstar> Is there any way to point apt to a PPA, but only for a certain subset of packages? I need to update pulseaudio to a newer version than intrepid has, because the version shipped with intrepid is broken.
[17:46] <Cube3D> !hi | ivanof
[17:47] <Cube3D> hehe
[17:47] <ivanof> thanks
[17:47] <ivanof> hi cube
[17:47] <ivanof> ^^
[17:47] <Cube3D> hi
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> dstar: just add the pps repo to your sources.list file and install what you need from it
[17:47] <xrandallx> hi i need help please with java im still trying to install it an i have googled and tried different things on the web and it installs but the firefox plugin will not work when i go to a site with java or to java.com it dont pick up please help
[17:47] <gabriel> how can i get a nicely styled taskbar in gnome? I have applied some emerald themes, but they only change the windows, not the taskbar? :/
[17:47] <ivanof> well... i have a big problem
[17:48] <ivanof> cube
[17:48] <dayo> !ask | ivanof
[17:49] <Cube3D> ivanof: ask question:)
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> xrandallx: is your ubuntu 64bit or 32bit?
[17:49] <xrandallx> 32
[17:50] <xrandallx> ActionParsnip: 32bit
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> xrandallx: then sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-jre ia32-sun-java6-bin
[17:51] <Cube3D> ivanof: if you need me, I am on #ubuntu-es:)
[17:51] <ivanof> my mouse, its lost , the first botton do nothing
[17:51] <ivanof> wait cube
[17:51] <xrandallx> ActionParsnip: ok done
[17:51] <ivanof> i need help
[17:52] <dual> Does the Logitech MX Revolution mouse work fine in Ubuntu?
[17:52] <nathan_> agh!
[17:52] <azlon> on my mouse I can press the wheel left or right. how can I make that the back and forward buttons?
[17:52] <nathan_> identify faeyau
[17:52] <xrandallx> ActionParsnip: now what do i do next?
[17:52] <dstar> ActionParsnip: The problem is, there are a bunch of _other_ packages in that PPA, and I'd rather not grab them all, you know?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> xrandallx: sudo ln -s /usr/local/java/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[17:53] <gabbah> how can i get a nicely styled taskbar in gnome? I have tried some emerald themes, but they only change the windows, not the taskbar? :/
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> dstar: then just install the one you need then remove the repo
[17:53] <nathan_> identify nathan_ faeyau
[17:53] <|Kamen|> I'm looking for someone famiiar with ssh tunnels and vpn to help me get mine set up correctly. I am following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN  and getting the error "cannot open device 0, administratively prohibited" when I attempt to open the tunnel
[17:53] <xrandallx> ActionParsnip: ok done whats next
[17:53] <nathan_> register faeyau nathanlee2@gmail.com
[17:54] <dstar> ActionParsnip: Okay. I just wanted to check that there wasn't some way to limit it.
[17:54] <nathan_> msg nickserv help
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> xrandallx: java should run fine, close all firefoxes and rerun
[17:54] <azlon> nathan_: dude, use /msg nickserv before those commands
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> dstar: not sure
[17:54] <kane77> how can I change ubuntu language?
[17:54] <xrandallx> ActionParsnip: ok well i dont have java right now what do i need to type to install java
[17:54] <|Kamen|> can anyone see me?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> xrandallx: those ommands will install java and link the plugin to you firefox plugins
[17:55] <kane77> |Kamen|, yes we can see you
[17:55] <|Kamen|> ok I'm getting spammed about nickserv every time I send something
[17:55] <DizzyDoo> Hii, running Apache of Ubuntu Server, which has vsftpd to FTP to it. But when I do try to FTP in, I can view all the files, but can't add, modify or deleted files in the /var/www/ directory. Is this an Ubuntu problem or Apache problem? Any hints?
[17:55] <nathanlee> identify nathanlee faeyau
[17:56] <nathanlee> identify nathanlee faeyou
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> xrandallx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[17:56] <Seveas> !identify | nathanlee
[17:56] <jjshoe> I just switched to ubuntu.. working on setting up bind/named. If I query on my server, everything responds fine, and fast. if I query from the outside world it takes FOREVER to get a response. Any thoughts what on the box would be slowing queries down?
[17:56] <nathanlee> ah!
[17:56] <nathanlee> now I'm registered
[17:56] <Jachred> Is there a good FAQ to show howto share between a Ubuntu box and a Windows Box on the same internal network?  (I used to use windows file sharing before i converted my desktop)
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> jjshoe: port forwarding maybe
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> !samba | Jachred
[17:57] <jjshoe> ActionParsnip thoughts on how to check on it/
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> jjshoe: well what port does the service use that you are connecting to
[17:57] <RoastedTiresX> Does anybody use FOG on Ubuntu?
[17:58] <jjshoe> ActionParsnip I don't follow. I'm using bind/named, that's dns, port 53.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> RoastedTiresX: whats FOG?
[17:58] <gackt> hi all
[17:58] <RoastedTiresX> Actionparsnip - It's an open source network cloning utility. Take Norton Ghost - costs + other neat features = FOG.
[17:58] <Jachred> thank you
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> jjshoe: ok so from pcs on lan, do they connect ok?
[17:58] <jjshoe> ActionParsnip it's not network. A slackware machine as of yesterday had no speed issues.
[17:58] <azlon> how can I take advantage of all the buttons on my mouse (nothing fancy, just basic back and forward buttons)
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> !mouse | azlon
[17:59] <jrib> azlon: imwheel or xbindkeys
[17:59] <RoastedTiresX> Actionparsnip - I got it working on 3 test computers I have here from work... 1 Ubuntu FOG server and 2 clients... it works GREAT and is fast, even on Unicast (3.5gb image in 10 minutes on 100mbps line). But I made a change in my server which screwed it up an dnow no clients can connect and I'm tryiiiiing to find somebody else who uses FOG who might be able to help...
[17:59] <Natovr1> I have an openoffice 3 problem o_O I installed it using a howto on the Ubuntu forums, and it worked :) but then I installed a few language packs (Af, De, and Fr, I think), then OpenOffice 3 seemed to totally disappear :( can anyone help me to get OpenOffice 3 back? using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> !clone
[17:59] <|Kamen|> anyone got a guide for doing ssh vpns that doesnt have errors in it? the one on help.ubuntu.com is either incomplete or incorrect.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Natovr1: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[18:00] <kazagistar> is there some program for Ubuntu that I can use to convert usb-hid signals to midi control signals?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[18:00] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, I know how to install it.. I'll look anyway to see if there is any info for my own problem
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Natovr1: are the binarys in /usr/bin
[18:01] <jjshoe> ActionParsnip a bit of poking online seems to indicate that it uses ipv6, and tries to resolve dns using ipv6 before ipv4. Added ipv6 to my blacklist and trying again.
[18:02] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, yes, it seems so
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Natovr1: what happens if you run them using full path from terminal?
[18:03] <jjshoe> ActionParsnip does ubuntu use iptables by default?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> jjshoe: yes
[18:03] <StR|Sangreal> hi. pls what SW should i preferably use for video/music format conversion?
[18:03] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, but I think oowriter used to be there and it isn't -- I'll look
[18:04] <TaG^> what is the lastest kernal?
[18:04] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, it runs, but I'll show a screenshot of what comes up
[18:04] <|Kamen|> is there another channel with more specific help on ssh?
[18:04] <TaG^> what is the lastest kernal?
[18:05] <unop> |Kamen|, #openssh
[18:05] <idlerevolution> is ppa.launchpad down?
[18:05] <|Kamen|> unop:thanks
[18:05] <Eressolar> TaG^: http://kernel.org
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Natovr1: command is: office -writer %U
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> oops
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> ooffice -writer %U
[18:06] <tomtt> my out of the box ubuntu install has the ssl vulnerability. Are there instructions out there about what I have to do to update my libssl? Just an update/upgrade does not help. Do I need to add something to my sources.list?
[18:07] <azlon> what is the cmd to search?
[18:07] <jrib> tomtt: why doesn't just an update/upgrade help?
[18:07] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, uploading screenshot for the command "openoffice"
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> tomtt: i'd get updated and it will possibly fix it: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:07] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, with ooffice -writer, a loading screen appears and disappears almost immediately
[18:08] <Natovr1> imagebin is taking so long :|
[18:08] <WebGuest1> I have my home folder on a seperate ext4 partition. It was my hope to be able to access this from Windows 7, however I am unable to get this format working with Windows. I would like to change it to NTFS format. How easy would this be to do, if it just a matter of reformatting the partition, and will ubuntu recreate the folders. Or will I have to copy them manually, or something more complicated? Thanks
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Natovr1: what does terminal say?
[18:08] <Natovr1> nothing
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: copy the data off the partition, format, copy data back
[18:09] <WebGuest1> ah fantastic. Thanks ActionParsnip
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: theres a driver that lets windows read ext2
[18:09] <Natovr1> anyway, with "openoffice", the window to select the writer etc. appears, but all the options are greyed out
[18:09] <WebGuest1> yeah, I have tried both drivers. However none work with windows 7
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[18:10] <raffaele> ciao
[18:10] <sparky_> hey quick ? for someone.  I'm running Ubuntu Server 8.04.2 and I ran a ping to one of my other computers on my network,  now i can't stop it.  I only ran "ping 192.168.1.30",  i'm running from the text interface.
[18:10] <eighthr> how can i video capture in unbuntu to make a tutorial....???....
[18:10] <WebGuest1> yeah, that's non functional under 7
[18:10] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, anyway, with "openoffice", the window to select the writer etc. appears, but all the options are greyed out (sorry, forgot to highlight)
[18:10] <|Kamen|> well the crickets in #openssh are pretty lively, so I'm still looking for help here if anyone can assist
[18:10] <tdstrong> Is ppa.launchpad down?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> sparky_: ctrl + c
[18:10] <elcMawr> hello. how can i determine why 8.10 is hanging on "configuring network interfaces" at boot please?
[18:10] <S7UMPY> does anyone know any programs for ubuntu 8.10 that can convert avi. to dvd format?
[18:10] <jjshoe> well turned ufw off and it's still slow as piss
[18:10] <eighthr> S7UMPY, devede....
[18:11] <sparky_> ActionParsnip: thx
[18:11] <eighthr> S7UMPY, it's in add/remove....
[18:11] <tomtt> never mind, i must have created the key before I had upgraded
[18:11] <S7UMPY> eighthr: thanks
[18:11] <Zeroyez> i can't figure out how to install grub, i use rescue mode of installer, then do grubinstall /dev/sdb and every time i boot it says "GRUB Loading stage1.5. GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17"
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !grub | Zeroyez
[18:12] <Zeroyez> that is 100% unrelated
[18:12] <Zeroyez> i did not install windows, i installed ubuntu on my 2nd hard drive
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: it will elp you install grub and your question was at least regarding grub so 100% is a ridiculous figure to state at least
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: it tells you how to install and configure grub
[18:13] <Natovr1> Zeroyez, found info about error 17 if it helps :) http://hertenberger.co.za/?p=808
[18:14] <elcMawr> what would cause "configuring network interfaces" to hang at boot time? how do i find out?
[18:14] <|Kamen|> doesnt grub need to be on the first drive that boots?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: the fact that most people bork grub by installing NTLDR over the top is just a bit of extra info
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: try readingg the links instead of giving attitude
[18:14] <Zeroyez> so i have to install windows boot loader instead of grub?
[18:14] <Zeroyez> that makes no sense
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> |Kamen|: it needs to be on the drive that the bios has selected to boot, or install it to a different disk ten change the bios
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: no
[18:15] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, I take it you have no clue on my openoffice problem? :)
[18:15] <Zeroyez> oh i need to install grub on first disk meh
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: its just an extra bit of info, if grub isnt working you need that guide to reinstate it properly
[18:15] <n8tuserf> elcMawr-> wireless ?
[18:15] <Zeroyez> all this time i've been doing grubinstall /dev/sdb when i was supposed to do /dev/sda
[18:15] <|Kamen|> Zeroyez, grub is already isntalled, just change bios to boot off drive 2
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: yes, iif you read the link instead of all this you'd realise but you took one look at it and gave all this grief
[18:16] <haytham-med> hi all, i resized ubuntu partition, after that the swap doesnot start automatically
[18:16] <DreadKnight> woot! awesome live drawing stream (amsg sry :D ) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/art-of-kasia88
[18:16] <Zeroyez> i can't change the bios to boot off drive 2, it's insyde bios and insyde are the worst bios people in the world
[18:16] <|Kamen|> a bios that doesnt let you select boot device? yikes
[18:17] <Zeroyez> it gives you a choice between cd boot, net boot, hard drive 1 boot, but no hard drive 2 :(
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: then you have to pander to your locked down bios
[18:17] <RickZilla> For some reason, 3-D graphics are having a tough time working in ubuntu for me.  Apps like Google Earth and Second Life do just fine in Vista on this same machine, but don't work in ubuntu.  Where do I go to tweak this?
[18:17] <Th3_KID> hey anyone why ubuntu wont mount any drives? SmartMedia MMC Sd or memory Stick
[18:17] <kedare> hi :)
[18:17] <|Kamen|> swap the drive cables. will be faster than installing grub and will not endanger your windows boot sectors
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: run: lspci | grep -i vga
[18:17] <kedare> hi :)
[18:17] <tdstrong> Can't connect to ppa.launchpad.net.  Anyone else having this trouble?
[18:18] <WebGuest1> hmm, How can I unmount /home?
[18:18] <RickZilla> ACtionParsnip:  Thanks...just do that from a terminal?
[18:18] <Rods_Tiger> what is a good app in ubuntu for emulating a digital picture frame?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: boot to recovery root console or live cd
[18:18] <Daft_Punk> since when did we have to sign up with nickserv to talk in this channel?
[18:18] <DreadKnight> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/art-of-kasia88
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: yes
[18:18] <Zeroyez> bah, i don't have the screwdriver type to get the hard drive out of the laptop
[18:18] <WebGuest1> ah thanks
[18:18] <unop> tdstrong, it's a bit slow today - but it works
[18:18] <KujiUn> /server irc.digibase.ca
[18:19] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  I'll give it a shot.  Do I need sudo at the beginning?  Sorry for the newb questions, I'm still getting used to the command line in Linux
[18:19] <KujiUn> ...
[18:19] <tdstrong> unop, Thanks.  I've tried to do an 'apt-get update', and it's timed out for the last hour.
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: you dont need to open up, just install grub to the first drive and it will need to have the windows option adding if its not already populated for you
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: no, just: lspci | grep -i vga
[18:19] <xyzyx93> hey
[18:19] <vocx> Ubuntu 8.10, I have the Disk Mounter applet in my top panel. I have an Audio disk mounted. If I click on it and select "Play CD" the Disk Mounter applet quits and I can choose to reload it. Anybody can try this on their system? Perhaps it's a bug, or just my system.
[18:19] <xyzyx93> hello
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: that will identify your video card in linux, you can websearch from there
[18:20] <Th3_KID> whats up room
[18:20] <xyzyx93> not much
[18:20] <unop> tdstrong, you might have to wait a bit - the site might be under maintenance currently.
[18:20] <RickZilla> Oh...so that doesn't solve the problem, just tells me what the video card is.
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> vocx: didnt know you had to mount audio cds to play them
[18:20] <xyzyx93> hlaskdjf'asjdf
[18:20] <xyzyx93> asdf
[18:20] <xyzyx93> asd
[18:20] <xyzyx93> f
[18:20] <xyzyx93> asd
[18:20] <xyzyx93> f
[18:20] <xyzyx93> asdf
[18:20] <xyzyx93> fd
[18:20] <xyzyx93> asd
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: well its info we do need
[18:20] <dougiel> ban
[18:20] <jrib> deop jrib
[18:21] <vocx> ActionParsnip, they automount , so to speak, when you insert one.
[18:21] <jsjones> Why does the user switcher applet keep disappearing from the top panel?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> vocx: unmount the cd then it should be playable
[18:21] <Daft_Punk> since when did we have to sign up with nickserv to talk in this channel?
[18:21] <jrib> Daft_Punk: you don't
[18:21] <Rods_Tiger> does anyone recommend any particular app that will perform like a digital picture frame?
[18:21] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Copy and paste in here?
[18:22] <Daft_Punk> jrib: it says you have to register with nickserv to talk in #ubuntu
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: its only one line so yes
[18:22] <|Kamen|> if you have a digital audio cable going from the cd drive to a soundcard you shouldnt need to mount, right? the cd player should play the music without the Os needing to do anything? someone smack me if I'm wrong I'm just taking a leap of screwy logic
[18:22] <RickZilla> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:22] <vocx> ActionParsnip, mmm... what?  Please use the Mount Applet and see if you can reproduce what I'm talking about.
[18:22] <kitche> jrib: yeah looks like you need to be registered now according to the /modes
[18:22] <jrib> kitche: which one?
[18:23] <Daft_Punk> jrib: apparently you dont get +e until you are registered and logged in
[18:23] <TaG^> how come ai can't connect to my wireless network through my laptop?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: http://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/debian/Etch_on_Thinkpad_T60/Etch_on_Thinkpad_T60.xorg.conf.txt
[18:23] <jrib> Daft_Punk: right because +e means you are identified
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: search that for: Identifier	"Intel 945 Graphics Controller"
[18:24] <TaG^> how come ai can't connect to my wireless network through my laptop? .. i enter the right passwd..
[18:24] <DasEi> |Kamen|: does the drive wind up ? does a earphone get sound ?
[18:24] <Daft_Punk> jrib: oh well it kept saying i had to register, everytime i typed something...
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: you need to run: gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:24] <jrib> Daft_Punk: sometimes the bot will +R the channel if there some sort of attack.  That's not default though and it's not on now
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: and make the sections in nyour look like those sections
[18:24] <Zedicus> test
[18:24] <Zedicus> ok weird, dont know why it did that to me then
[18:24] <Zedicus> i feel i signed up for no reason lol
[18:25] <|Kamen|> DasEi: wasnt my problem, I dunno. was just throwing out a thought on someone elses trouble
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> vocx: manually unmount the cd then try opening the raw device with your chosen media player
[18:25] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Not sure what any of that means, but I'll see what I can do
[18:25] <kolal> hi
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: you have a section for Identified "Configured Display Adapter"
[18:26] <W473D> sup
[18:26] <vocx> ActionParsnip, the CD plays fine, while is mounted, that's not the problem. What I mean, is the applet fails. It quits and then reloads. I'm just trying to figure out if it is a problem with the applet.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: leave the identifier lines alone, just add the driver and option lines
[18:26] <DasEi> |Kamen|: so no sure answer is possible: if the ide-cable is attached, it depends on the config on that machine , if ubu 'blocks' manual access, else it should work, but why would you do that ?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> vocx: see if you can run the app with debug options and read its log files when it crashes, you could also run:   dmesg | tail   when it dies to see if there are any clues there
[18:27] <elcMawr> what would cause "configuring network interfaces" to hang at boot time?
[18:27] <azlon> I installed imwheel, but I don't know what the button command is for pressing the mousewheel left or right... how can I find that?
[18:27] <n8tuserf> elcMawr-> wireless ?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: you are going to be wrestling that file until you get a good display, the intel drivers are all installed by default, yuor system just needs configuring to use them
[18:27] <jrib> azlon: xev
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> elcMawr: do you eventually get a boot?
[18:27] <azlon> jrib: type xev in terminal?
[18:28] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Do I still need to be looking on that .txt page you showed me?  There are several instances of the 945 card there
[18:28] <gastly> hi guys, any way to improve the crappy fonts in Firefox? I have the M$ fonts installed and I also patched my freetype to use subpixel smoothing, still the FF fonts are crappy
[18:28] <elcMawr> n8tuserf, i wondered about this, but nothing seems configured for wireless. ActionParsnip , yes it does eventually boot.
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: just the first one
[18:28] <WalkTheLine> hey guys, new ubuntu user here. could use some help with installing programs if anyone has time
[18:28] <W473D> Hey  any 0ne know my ubuntu wont mount any drives when i put them in... Drives such as MMC sd and Memery Stick
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> elcMawr: one it boots, run    dmesg | less    and read through
[18:29] <W473D> f
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> W473D: do they show up in sudo fdisk -l   ?
[18:29] <nikitis> Help!  my system won't boot, getting kernel panic.  The message before says "accessing corrupted shared library"  All i did was upgrade the RAM.
[18:29] <elcMawr> i got dmesg; big delay when NET: stuff begins
[18:29] <RoastedTiresX> Does anybody use FOG on Ubuntu?
[18:29] <baz_> linux perms are based on owner, group and other... is the proper way to enforce perms for multiple specific users that may or may not belong to a group to make higher level groups?
[18:29] <gastly> WalkTheLine, goto System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager, there select the packages you wish to install :)
[18:29] <kitche__> W473D: is your card reader supported by Ubuntu?
[18:29] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip: ok...I'm running the xorg command you showed me, and it's not doing anything...not that I can see anyway
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: the driver and BusID are what you need for the display adapter
[18:29] <DasEi> nikitis: can you boot safe mode ?
[18:29] <elcMawr> ActionParsnip, can i PM my dmesg to you?
[18:29] <nikitis> DasEi, no...
[18:29] <vocx> ActionParsnip, hey, that actually was useful. dmesg shows drivemount_appl segfaulting. But still, would like confirmation from someone else. Maybe it's due to my SATA DVD drive.
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> RickZilla: the Screen section is pretty much what you want except the identifier lines
[18:30] <nikitis> DasEi, recovery gives that error
[18:30] <WalkTheLine> Thanks gastly, trying that now
[18:30] <azlon> jrib: xev doesn't recognize when I press the mouse wheel left or right
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> elcMawr: its a MASSIVE mount of text, just read through, its the log of your system coming up
[18:30] <DasEi> nikitis: try another kernel ?
[18:30] <gastly> WalkTheLine, yw
[18:30] <jrib> azlon: what version of ubuntu?
[18:30] <nikitis> DasEi, hmm not yet
[18:30] <elcMawr> ActionParsnip, i know... it doesnt tell me anything useful
[18:30] <azlon> jrib: 8.10
[18:30] <gabriel> Hi everyone
[18:31] <RickZilla> ActionParsnip:  Sorry, but that xorg.conf command isn't doing anything
[18:31] <jrib> azlon: what mouse?
[18:31] <gabriel> I want to know how to install kde 4.2 in ubuntu 8.10 without losing gnome
[18:31] <W473D> ActionParnship No they dont show up in sudo fdisk -l and kitche_ yes it is supported by ubuntu... I mean they have worked before and all of a sudden it stopped... any I dea
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> elcMawr: read through, eventually you will see the network devices coming up with a large amount of time gap (left hand colomn)
[18:31] <juanito> which package should i install if i want that kde desktop appears available in the session menu?
[18:31] <WebGuest1> ActionParsnip, upon booting ubuntu it has tried to load this partition as ext4, and of course spewed a bunch of errors (as it is now an ntfs drive)
[18:31] <gastly> gabriel, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:31] <gastly> type this in a terminal :)
[18:31] <nikitis> DasEi, new kernel didn't work either
[18:31] <DasEi> nikitis: else u could try to chroot in from a live-cd and run update/grade, maybe that fixes the faulty lib
[18:31] <WebGuest1> what can I do to go about tellung ubuntu that it's now a ntfs partition
[18:31] <azlon> jrib: Logitech 780 Bluetooth Mouse
[18:32] <gabriel> and how do I switch from KDE to gnome, gastly?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> WebGuest1: then you need to edit /etc/fstab with gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   to make it mount properly
[18:32] <Zeroyez> alright, it turns out that installing grub on my first hard drive's MBR still gives me error 17 and i can't find anything in the GrubHowto page on how to fix it
[18:32] <W473D> ActionParnship no they dont sho up in sudo fdisk -l
[18:32] <juanito> ops sorry gabriel was asking the same question
[18:32] <WebGuest1> sure, thanks very nuch
[18:32] <tp> ver irc.debian.org
[18:32] <nikitis> DasEi, what about fsck -f /dev/hda?
[18:32] <juanito> sorry
[18:32] <gastly> gabriel, in the login screen just select 'KDE' as your desktop environment
[18:32] <elcMawr> ActionParsnip, that's exactly right. I've PM'd just 4 lines of dmesg, where it's screwing up...
[18:32] <gabriel> Thanks, gastly
[18:32] <gastly> yw :)
[18:32] <W473D> kitche_ yes they have allways worked they just all of a sudden stopped
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> gabriel: install kubuntu-desktop, log of, switch session to kde and log in
[18:32] <jrib> azlon: well evdev should be default in 8.10, but maybe the problem is because it is bluetooth.  Did you find anything on the wiki or forums about the mouse?
[18:33] <DreadKnight> omfg! O_O woot! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/art-of-kasia88
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> elcMawr: ok now gp find out what those mean
[18:34] <WalkTheLine> if I downloaded ipcop, should it appear in Package Manager?
[18:34] <fearful> how do I add a keyboard shortcut to run an app like audacious?
[18:34] <azlon> jrib: not about this mouse. I tried modifying some of the lines in the imwheel  config file with some suggestions from the wiki but no luck
[18:34] <jrib> azlon: right, your first goal has to be to get the buttons recognized at all in xev
[18:34] <gastly> WalkTheLine, well if you downloaded and installed it using the 'apt-get' command then it should
[18:34] <gastly> otherwise it won't
[18:34] <gabriel> ok, when I try to install KDE in ubuntu it says that it has unmet dependencies
[18:34] <juanito> is this version of kde stable?
[18:34] <lietzmk> Hello
[18:34] <WalkTheLine> gastly, ah, havent tried that yet. I'll do that now. THanks again
[18:34] <vocx> !shortcut | fearful
[18:35] <DasEi> WalkTheLine: no, it's a standalone "OS"
[18:35] <SomePriest> Has anyone else noticed that VLC when playing DVDs has a LOT of [video] noise?  The picture quality of DivX files seems excellent, but DVDs are sub-par.
[18:35] <fearful> vocx, thanks
[18:35] <azlon> jrib: any suggestions on where I could start to get it to recognize?
[18:35] <gastly> gabriel, hmm...it should say something to run 'apt-get -f install' or something, does it say that?
[18:35] <Ricardo> tem alguem ai?
[18:35] <DasEi> WalkTheLine: you run either on a seperate machine or as a vm
[18:35] <jrib> azlon: I don't really know much about what happens if the mouse is bluetooth.  Check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log if evdev is being used
[18:35] <juanito> i i mean the 4.2 that gastly mentioned
[18:35] <Noble> Problem: Installed Ubuntu onto a IDE drive, but wont boot.
[18:35] <Zeroyez> need help getting rid of error 17 on grub, have 2 hard drives ubuntu installed on /dev/sdb1
[18:36] <Ricardo> help please
[18:36] <gabriel> it appears E:broken package
[18:36] <DasEi> !ask | Ricardo
[18:36] <juanito> gastly i foud the package you said in synaptic
[18:36] <juanito> found*
[18:37] <BadRobot> Hi there, how can I install Ubuntu via Terminal
[18:37] <BadRobot> ?
[18:37] <gastly> gabriel, run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[18:37] <gastly> without the quotes ;)
[18:37] <gabriel> ok, thanks
[18:37] <BadRobot> or or text mode form the LiveCd
[18:37] <gastly> juanito, cool, install it :)
[18:37] <juanito> yes gastly thanks  a lot
[18:37] <DasEi> BadRobot: get the alternate installer, see also :
[18:37] <DasEi> !minimal
[18:37] <gastly> yw juanito :)
[18:38] <Natovr1> hi.. I have an openoffice 3 problem o_O I installed it using a howto on the Ubuntu forums, and it worked :) but then I installed a few language packs (Af, De, and Fr, I think), then OpenOffice 3 seemed to totally disappear :( can anyone help me to get OpenOffice 3 back? using Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit. when I start "openoffice" in terminal, the window comes up to choose an application, but all the options are greyed out. when I
[18:38] <Natovr1> start with "ooffice -writer" the orange loading screen comes up and disappears immediately. this only happened after installing a language pack
[18:38] <BadRobot> I already have the liveCD i just need to install it via Terminal
[18:38] <DasEi> Natovr1: reinstall it
[18:38] <Natovr1> DasEi, ok :|
[18:38] <WalkTheLine> how safe is Ubuntu w/o a firewall or AV?
[18:39] <gastly> WalkTheLine, safer than Windows with a firewall and an AV ;)
[18:39] <fearful> WalkTheLine, you don't need an av, a firewall is needed in my opinion
[18:39] <Natovr1> WalkTheLine, IMO, very safe compared to Windows... not many viruses written for Ubuntu
[18:39] <DasEi> Natovr1: use the --purge option to delete faulty config-diles, too
[18:39] <DasEi> *files
[18:39] <jrib> fearful: why do you need a firewall? :)
[18:39] <fearful> !ufw | WalkTheLine
[18:39] <WalkTheLine> haha good to hear because i dont have a firewall yet
[18:39] <gabriel> Is there a graphical way to install KDE, cause in terminal it wont let me install it
[18:39] <Natovr1> DasEi, --purge with which command?
[18:39] <fearful> jrib, to block incoming connections :p
[18:39] <Natovr1> apt?
[18:40] <azlon> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m520df540
[18:40] <fearful> jrib, to be honest I don't use a firewall now that my router has one so
[18:40] <fearful> doesn't ubuntu come with ufw tho?
[18:40] <RoastedTiresX> Does anybody use FOG on Ubuntu?
[18:40] <juanito> yes but ufw comes disabled
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> WalkTheLine: i run neither behind a router, just NEVER use root logon and yuo are very safe
[18:41] <juanito> i installed gufw
[18:41] <jrib> azlon: well it's not using evdev
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> gabriel: sudo apt-get install kde-base
[18:41] <azlon> hrmm
[18:41] <fearful> juanito, I see, I might have enabled it tho sudo ufw enable
[18:41] <DasEi> Natovr1: sudo apt-get remove --purge <openofficepaket>
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> gabriel: or more easily: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:41] <Natovr1> ok
[18:41] <azlon> jrib: should I install evdev or something?
[18:41] <tp> Is there a way to force Xorg to work at 16 bit color depth?
[18:41] <juanito> i'm not good with terminals yet
[18:41] <gastly> gabriel, goto Application->Add/Remove. there type 'KDE 4' in the search box and just check the box in front of 'KDE 4' and click 'Apply Changes'
[18:42] <juanito> so i used gufw to enable it;)
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> tp: set depth in xorg.conf
[18:42] <jrib> azlon: nope, first is to see if you can use it with your mouse at all and find out why it isn't being used (X tries)
[18:42] <juanito> fearful you can also try firestarter
[18:42] <fearful> juanito, I see well now you know ufw enable or disable works fine
[18:42] <Natovr1> DasEi, Package openoffice.org is not installed, so not removed
[18:42] <fearful> juanito, I'm good WalkTheLine was asking :p
[18:42] <TaG^> how do i install the new kernal?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: dpkg -l | grep office
[18:43] <juanito> fearful i'm sure yo know more about firewalls than i do:))
[18:43] <tp> ActionParsnip, xorg.conf now looks like a very small file without any important config. Sounds like xorg configure itself without xorg.conf. What can I do? Which lines can I put there?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> TaG^: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will install any updates for kernel
[18:43] <Natovr1> ActionParsnip, think that one was for me
[18:43] <Natovr1> thanks
[18:43]  * DreadKnight awesome live drawing http://tinyurl.com/kathy88
[18:44] <nikitis> DasEi, Now i can't even boot a live cd
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> tp: heres mine: http://pastebin.com/f70d538fa
[18:44] <juanito> fearful, i also wanted an antivirus but they told me not to install one
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> tp: look in my screen section (I use 24bit colour)
[18:44] <DasEi> nikitis: use the check-ram option ? bad settings in bios ?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> !antivirus | juanito
[18:44] <nikitis> in bios?
[18:44] <fearful> juanito, you don't need it at all, but there is a avg version for unix
[18:44] <nikitis> DasEi, i mean in kernel options?
[18:45] <TaG^> ActionParsnip I want only 2.6.28 only
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> juanito: its not really needed unless you are running a mail server or wil have windows clients accessing your file shares
[18:45] <DasEi> nikitis: ram's timings are set there, are the rams identic in type/facturer ?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> TaG^: thats a jaunty kernel
[18:45] <rubendodge> Okay who do I talk to about a ubuntu bug?
[18:45] <tp> ActionParsnip, thank you so much!
[18:45] <juanito> yes that's what i wanted it for
[18:45] <rubendodge> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1096602
[18:45] <DreadKnight> hello
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> tp: np man, after you update the file, restart x
[18:45] <juanito> just to protect my friends
[18:46] <rubendodge> IDENTIFY
[18:46] <fearful> juanito, than yea try the avg version http://free.avg.com/download?prd=afl
[18:46] <juanito> but they should use one in their windows
[18:46] <juanito> ;PPP
[18:46] <tp> ActionParsnip, right!
[18:46] <fearful> juanito, agreed
[18:46] <rubendodge> someone pls help me :P
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> juanito: you can install it its just not hugely needed at all, you will be protecting windows users from mweach other if they upload virus'd files
[18:46] <TaG^> ActionParsnip say I want only 2.6.28.7?
[18:46] <juanito> yes
[18:47] <juanito> my question now is......firestarter or ufw?
[18:47] <rubendodge> REGISTER
[18:47] <nikitis> DasEi, not sure what you mean
[18:47] <rubendodge> REGISTER rubendodge
[18:47] <fearful> juanito, ufw comes installed on ubuntu I wuold stay with ufw
[18:47] <kitche> juanito: doesnt matter sicne they are not firewalls really they are just frontends
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> rubendodge,  you should be doing a /msg nickserv  befor those commands...
[18:47] <DasEi> nikitis: are the rams identic in type/facturer ?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> rubendodge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Ubuntu%208.04%20and%20Ubuntu%208.10
[18:48] <racecar56> how do i make ubuntu modprobe floppy on startup?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> juanito: whichever you can configure easiest, try both
[18:48] <DasEi> racecar : ad it to fstab
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: add the module you probe to /etc/modules
[18:48] <juanito> ok thanks a lot for your information it has been very valuable
[18:49] <chazco> Hi... how can I mount an FTP/SFTP location in Ubuntu without Nautilus gvfs? Nautilus doesnt open the correct directory and is very slow for the connection, whereas gftp works fine (but not as a mounted location)...
[18:49] <rubendodge> okay dude I have already tried that and my device is supported i already checked
[18:49] <rubendodge> IDENTIFY
[18:49] <nikitis> DasEi, do you mean are the ram chips made by the same manufacturer and are the same?
[18:49] <DasEi> nikitis: yes
[18:50] <nikitis> yes, they are supposed to be 2x2gb sticks
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> rubendodge: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[18:50] <nikitis> they look the same and both came in the same package
[18:50] <DasEi> nikitis: same type /manufacturer ?
[18:50] <nikitis> the bios only reads it as 3056 MB's though
[18:50] <nikitis> yes
[18:50] <juanito> if i want that gnome takes control of the log in screen i should leave gdm when installing kde 4.2?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> nikitis: you may need a bios upgrade
[18:50] <DasEi> nikitis: running 32 bit OS ?
[18:50] <chazco> ActionParsnip - Btw, a while ago I was asking about wpa-enterprise connection issues... found a workround - using wicd works :)
[18:51] <nikitis> DasEi, yes
[18:51] <nikitis> ActionParsnip, possible
[18:51] <rubendodge> hey dude I already tried the apt get install method
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> juanito: you can use gdm to start kde
[18:51] <rubendodge> i think Ihave a conflict of drivers or something with the nvidia drivers installed
[18:51] <DasEi> nikitis: that will be the problem then, as it maximal supports 4 g total, including graphics and other mem..
[18:52] <juanito> ok and that installation of kubuntu desktop is asking me for another password and all that
[18:52] <nikitis> DasEi, so will it not work with it then?
[18:52] <rubendodge> I have working linux suse nvidia drivers but ubuntu doesnt seem to want to work
[18:52] <DasEi> nikitis: if your cpu is capable, use 64 bit; there ways to extend ubu32, but I'm not the specialist for that
[18:53] <nikitis> DasEi, there's only two memory slots
[18:53] <TaG^> why do I get this msg E: Could't find package Build esstenial?
[18:53] <racecar56> is there a way to make intrepid's boot screen act like dapper's? i want it to have more verbosity
[18:53] <night> hi @ all, i have a problem with my volume control buttons.... when press them there is a splash-screen where the voice is changing, but it doesn't.... any1 know how to make the controls work?
[18:53] <juanito> buld-essentials
[18:53] <DasEi> !memory | nikitis
[18:53] <juanito> ops build-essentials
[18:53] <acicula> racecar56: err like all the text flying by? hitting escape or alt-f1 should do the trick
[18:53] <phobiac> racecar56: Is the silent option on?
[18:54] <racecar56> idk
[18:54] <DasEi> nikitis: cpu is 64 bit-able ?
[18:54] <maxbaldwin> Hey.
[18:54] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu.it
[18:54] <joyce> i upgraded 8.04 to 8.10 and got a black screen upon login.  i see it's a common problem.  any suggestion on how to fix this? i want 8.10.  thanks
[18:54] <night> ah^^
[18:54] <phobiac> racecar56: Check your menu.lst. The silent option might be on, if it is try just taking it out.
[18:54] <TaG^> why do I get this msg E: Could't find package Build esstenial?
[18:54] <zeitsofa> juanito: in /etc/X11/default-display-manager you can take your choice.
[18:55] <juanito> ok
[18:55] <DasEi> joyce: try to boot into recovery-mode,  run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:55] <tritium> TaG^: it's build-essential.  Just spell it right, and you'll be fine.
[18:55] <kitche> TaG^: probably beause it's build-essential
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> TaG^: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:55] <rubendodge> anyone got any clue on what could cause my nvidia installs to lead to a black screen and then to console every time
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> TaG^: packages dont have caps or spaces in their names
[18:55] <joyce> DasEi, sorry if i ask you exactly what to do, as i don't want to screw up.
[18:55] <gartral> alrighty, im havin a wonderful day... how do i add a mount point to fstab? (mounted ISO, I would like to make a "ISO ROM" so i don't need to sudo mount isos...)
[18:55] <maxbaldwin> I've been having problems with burning ubuntu 8.10 cd's. This is the k3b output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/131692/   I'm concerned with line 13 or whatever. where it says wodim: operation not permitted. Does this look like normal output? or should I burn again?
[18:55] <joyce> so download 8.10, when it reboots, how do i get into recovery-mode? this is for DasEi
[18:55] <azlon> what is the command for copy?
[18:55] <azlon> cc?
[18:55] <maxbaldwin> azlon: cp
[18:56] <DasEi> azlon: cp, see man cp
[18:56] <dan-ubuntu> woot captain picard
[18:56] <tritium> TaG^: note that you can use tab-completion with apt-get.
[18:56] <TaG^> ActionParsnip i did type that... and a got a error msg
[18:56] <phobiac> rubendodge: On my computer that has an nvidia card, there's a splash-screen type thing with the nvidia logo that shows up before the login window. An error in that?
[18:56] <vocx> joyce, what's your graphic card? Sounds like an issue Unichrome cards were having, but might affect others
[18:56] <juanito> zeitsofa thanks
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> TaG^: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install build-essential
[18:56] <zeitsofa> juanito: np - you're welcome
[18:56] <racecar56> phobiac where is the silent thingy, i have /boot/grub/menu.lst open
[18:56] <TaG^> sorry i am a newbie
[18:56] <gartral> !fstab
[18:56] <night> guys, can u help me with gettin' the voise control buttons of my notebook work? (sony vaio)
[18:56] <rubendodge> no i dont even see the logo on it it just crashes the x server
[18:56] <night> voice*
[18:57] <DreadKnight> don't click this link please http://tinyurl.com/kathy88   thanks ;)
[18:57] <DasEi> joyce: very early, when grub is loading, press esc > recoverymode to get to a cmd-line, then enter the above
[18:57] <Krstnsn> has anyone had issues with wireless networks since the most recent network manager update?
[18:57] <rubendodge> before i can actually see any of the graphical stuff
[18:57] <DasEi> !ot > DreadKnight
[18:57] <TaG^> ok.. the update wrks now..
[18:57] <tritium> None of that, DreadKnight.
[18:57] <joyce> DasEi, i read somewhere  i should disable compiz, but what you said should work instead?
[18:57] <phobiac> racecar56: It'd be at the end of the kernel entry
[18:57] <joyce> thanks so much
[18:58] <panfist> does the command lspci show you what drivers are installed or just what hardware is detected. i see a device in lspci but i don't think it's working right
[18:58] <racecar56> phobiac i see 'quiet' at some, is that it?
[18:58] <vocx> tritium, it's some sort of bot, that message has been posted several times. ban I say.
[18:58] <phobiac> racecar56: That's probably it
[18:58] <juanito> can i run the applications that were installed with kubuntu desktop here in ubuntu?will they work fine?
[18:58] <tritium> Thanks, vocx
[18:58] <rubendodge> the only way i manage to see the GUI again is to remove the nvidia driver completly and rely on ubuntus drivers
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> panfist: no, it just lists all devices attatched to the pci bus
[18:58] <DasEi> joyce: you canesxperiment when your graphics work and drivers correctly installed
[18:58] <rubendodge> but they only have 2d support
[18:58] <phobiac> racecar56: You might try removing the "splash" entry as well.
[18:59] <joyce> DasEi, just afraid because it takes SO long to install and this is my third time
[18:59] <joyce> ok thank you
[18:59] <panfist> actionparsnip how can i see what drivers are installed
[18:59] <rubendodge> so it very slow on games if not just not being able to play them at all
[18:59] <racecar56> phobiac ok, im gonna reboot now and see
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> panfist: sudo lshw
[18:59] <gartral> is it even possible to make a virtual CD rom (aka ISO ROM) in ubuntu?
[18:59] <DasEi> joyce: write down the above cmd, try it, reboot (sudo reboot)
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> gartral: do you mean make an iso from file in a folder?
[19:00] <joyce> ok
[19:00] <joyce> bbl
[19:00] <night> help me with my voice control buttons plz..... any1
[19:00] <DasEi> !iso | gartral
[19:00] <gartral> ActionParsnip: no, i want fstab unmount access to a sudo mounted ISO
[19:00] <gartral> i used sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/gareth/Games/_DISK1.iso /home/gareth/Games/_DISK1 to mount, and i want to unmount it without having to sudo again
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> gartral: then run: sudo umount /mount/point
[19:01] <juanito> can i run the applications that were installed with kubuntu desktop here in ubuntu?will they work fine? sorry if i put this again but is a doubt i have
[19:01] <gartral> ActionParsnip: *without* having to sudo, again
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> gartral: you need sudo to mount and umount
[19:01] <nikitis> DasEi, i believe it is 64 bit
[19:01] <gartral> iv'e 30 isos here, i want to hot swap them like i do CDs
[19:02] <gartral> well... the archive mounter dosn't need sudo, and it adds it's mount point  to fstab :|
[19:02] <panfist> lshw says that I have *-network UNCLAIMED description: Ethernet controller product: AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter...it's not available in ifconfig
[19:02] <DasEi> nikitis: so easiest way will be reinstalling 64bit; to save your files/pakets, dissemble the one 2gig
[19:02] <rubendodge> lol i bet i am really boggling your guys brain right now because I myself have spent 2 months attempting to fix this problem aswell
[19:02] <rubendodge> lol anymore ideas are welcome
[19:02] <joanki123> i'm trying to upgrade to 8.10 and when i go to update manager, that option is not there.  it was there yesterday... can anyone tell me where to find it?
[19:02] <DasEi> !cloning |nikitis
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> panfist: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[19:03] <gartral> ActionParsnip:  well... the archive mounter dosn't need sudo, and it adds it's mount point  to fstab :|
[19:03] <DasEi> nikitis: but keep in mind that paketnames differ 32/64 bit
[19:03] <joanki123> nm it's there now
[19:03] <joanki123> weird
[19:03] <gartral> ActionParsnip: the drawback there is that its SLOW
[19:03] <juanito> i know i must be patient in here, so i'm starting to think that my question was a very stupid one since nobody answered it
[19:03] <Solidol> Всем привет
[19:03] <panfist> thanks
[19:04] <kitche> gartral: actually it does need sudo unless you run archieve mounter as root
[19:04] <nikitis> DasEi, if that's the case, i have /home backed up on a separate partition.
[19:04] <DasEi> !rus|Solidol
[19:04] <racecar56> phobiac thats exactly what i wanted :D
[19:04] <whileimhere> What is 8.10's codename?
[19:04] <dan-ubuntu> hey everyone, any ideas how i can get compiz working on both my laptop screen and external? atm, two screens only work with basic/no effects
[19:04] <gartral> kitcha ive never had to enter my password to mount an archive... ever
[19:04] <racecar56> intrepid ibex
[19:04] <DasEi> !ru|Solidol
[19:04] <racecar56> whileimhere intrepid ibex
[19:04] <phobiac> racecar56: Good
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> gartral: its an extra word, hardly a defecit for te huge securitty it gives
[19:05] <whileimhere> !codecs
[19:05] <DasEi> nikitis: nice for you
[19:05] <merav_> _> Hey, how do I enable Hebrew on my Xubuntu 8.10 installation?
[19:05] <gartral> ActionParsnip: what are you talking about? i just want a smegging virtual rom so i dont have too enter a 128 bit phrase every 5 minutes
[19:06] <bosco_>  never heard of this { Suhosin-Patch Server } does that have something to do with php securing it what exaclty does it do???
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> gartral: then extend the timeout for sudo expiration
[19:06] <whileimhere> !w32codecs
[19:07] <nikitis> DasEi, so would a 64-bit os fix my memory issue?
[19:07] <gpm> hi all. i can't seem to find the device for my CD drives. they show up in dmesg, but not with the device name. any clues?
[19:08] <DasEi> nikitis: most likely, and use the memtest from the live to check if ram isn't faulty, go to the homep. of your mobo-fact.  and lookup supported ram
[19:08] <DasEi> (ammount)
[19:08] <night> @ all: can some1 say me how to change my volume control buttons so that they rly turn up and down the volume?
[19:08] <gpm> night: the ones you want to mess with, i think, are master and pcm
[19:09] <racecar56> gpm i agree
[19:09] <DasEi> nikitis: you can d/l with using 2 gig, and then check the 64 live
[19:09] <Guest4411> WTF????
[19:09] <night> gpm: ?
[19:09] <tritium> Guest4411: easy there
[19:09] <gpm> night: when you open volume control there should be a playback tab with sliders for master and pcm, those are the ones you want to turn up
[19:10] <DasEi> !alsa | night
[19:10] <rincewind_> gpm, I think he wants to get special keys to work
[19:10] <Guest4411> Hi all
[19:10] <gpm> rincewind_: oh
[19:10] <zxd> how can i get source packages for jaunty to backport to interpid
[19:10] <night> gpm: right, but with the control buttons on my keyboard, but when i press them nothing happens.....
[19:10] <vocx> gpm, what do you mean device name?
[19:11] <zxd> just add deb-src
[19:11] <gpm> vocx: /dev/hdc, for example. it's ok. i found out myself.
[19:11] <rincewind_> night, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172010
[19:12] <svetylk0> hello :-) I'am trying to use spamassassin plugin with Claws email client. SpamAssasin works well, spamd is running, also when i try spamc from command line it works. But when Claws receives a new message,it pop ups an error like "spamd is not running or not accessible", anyone has idea how to fix this? :-)
[19:12] <night> rincewind_, thx
[19:12] <haitam> hi all
[19:13] <haitam> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:13] <Zupp> OMG CHECK THIS OUT http://ptlancer.freehostia.com/
[19:13] <DizzyDoo> Are there anyways to graph the temperature from lm-sensors?
[19:13] <nikitis> DasEi, yeah msi says maximum of 2gb's ;(
[19:15] <sebsebseb> !jaunty | zxd
[19:15] <kc8pxy> mebbe I'm just not goggling right,  but I'm trying to setup an approx server, and  I'm trying find more documentation.  i'm not finding much.   where should i look?
[19:16] <DasEi> nikitis: want to giveaway ?
[19:16] <Natovr1> DasEi, works alright now :) thanks
[19:16] <gnuyen> does anyone run ubuntu on a macbook 4.1?  I can't get the isight firmware extracted from the file
[19:16] <nikitis> DasEi, heh, not really.  So the 64 bit option won't work?
[19:16] <gnuyen> so if anyone has isight.fw that would be awesome
[19:16] <nikitis> DasEi, there are no bios updates either
[19:17] <hardcampa> Someone tell me why Gnome have the sort arrow inverted... is there a point at all in this
[19:17] <DasEi> Natovr1:  you still will have to install the prop driver for full convience, but google has a lot as :
[19:17] <DasEi> !nvidia
[19:18] <Natovr1> DasEi, prop driver?
[19:18] <Natovr1> I'm the guy who had the openoffice problem, in case you forgot :)
[19:19] <quibbler> kc8pxy: http://wiki.flexion.org/ApproxServer.html or http://man.cx/approx
[19:19] <DasEi> Natovr1: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid
[19:19] <Natovr1> o_o
[19:19] <zxd> jaunty have security updates?
[19:19] <DasEi> Natovr1: yes, I messed up, sry
[19:19] <zxd> it's supposed to be unstable ? unstables have security updates?
[19:19] <zxd> in ubuntu ?
[19:19] <Natovr1> DasEi, no problem
[19:20] <DasEi> nikitis: if your mobo doesn't support more, then 64 is no way, too
[19:20] <TaG^> ActionParsnip .. after i got the update ... i did a uname -r it's still on the old kernal?
[19:20] <bpmarkham1> zxd: you might want to join #ubuntu+1 for that question
[19:20] <DasEi> nikitis: you might look for a bios update, though
[19:20] <skierKyle> Hi, so im trying to remote connect into a windows server 2k3 on my local network, does anybody have a program they would suggest ?
[19:21] <DasEi> !samba
[19:21] <piratepenguin> huuuh gnome-terminal in ubuntu 8.10 doesnt do real transparency with compiz on ??
[19:22] <quibbler> kc8pxy: http://www.debian-doc.org/man/8/a/approx.html
[19:23] <weatherkid> Ok, I got a question. I know my I.P. I need Apache2 to broadcast on it. What should I do?
[19:24] <Bodsda> Hi, im trying to reinstalkl grub to the mbr of my first hard drive, the root partition is the first partition, would that mean my command should look like (hd0,0) or (hd0,1) ?
[19:24] <piratepenguin> oh i got it
[19:25] <weatherkid> Can someone tell how to get apache to broadcast on a certian IP
[19:25] <WalkTheLine> ok, after I download a program, such as Ipcop or wireshark, where do I go to download it?
[19:26] <Bodsda> WalkTheLine, after you download it, where do you download it> that does not make sense
[19:26] <WalkTheLine> i mean to install it, sorry
[19:26] <Bodsda> WalkTheLine, did you download the .deb, the source or from the repos?
[19:27] <WalkTheLine> I just went to ipcop's website. downloaded an archive file. then extracted it to my document folder. now i am not sure how to install it
[19:27] <wal3> hello. I tried to change the mount options of my usb stick. so I did a right-click -> prop -> drive and edited it. now the usb stick isnt mountable anymore, how can I undo it?
[19:28] <DasEi> !grub | bodsda
[19:28] <DasEi> first link
[19:28] <acr0nym> hello
[19:28] <Bodsda> WalkTheLine, you need to make sure you have the package build-essential installed >> sudo apt-get install build-essential >> Then cd into the extracted directory >> cd /path/to/directory >> Then run these commands >> ./configure >> make >> sudo make install
[19:28] <acr0nym> need a bit of quick help
[19:28] <acr0nym> anyone around?
[19:29] <acr0nym> just installed ubuntu with netinstall...everything went fine
[19:29] <acr0nym> so it went to reboot
[19:29] <treborky> quit
[19:29] <acr0nym> but then it said can't find any os
[19:29] <DasEi> !compile | WalkTheLine
[19:29] <Bodsda> DasEi, been there, thats why im asking, grub returns (hd0,0) sometimes and other times it returns nothing
[19:29] <vocx> Bodsda, I think that would be (hd0)  MBR first disk,       (hd1) MBR second disk, etc.
[19:29] <acr0nym> so I guess it has something to do with the bootloader
[19:29] <eseven73> !enter | acr0nym
[19:29] <acr0nym> oki
[19:29] <Bodsda> vocx, yeah, but would the first partition of the first disk be (hd0,0)?
[19:29] <acr0nym> need help restoring the grub/mbr/bootloader. Ubuntu won't start up after a fresh install
[19:30] <Bodsda> !grub | acr0nym
[19:30] <vocx> Bodsda, you usually install the bootloader to the MBR not a partition
[19:30] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found).
[19:30] <DasEi> Bodsda: hd(0,0) is like /dev/sda1
[19:30] <Bodsda> vocx, yeah, ok cheers
[19:31] <Bodsda> DasEi, ok cool, thanks
[19:31] <oakmac1> Does anyone have experience setting resolution on TVs that overscan the image via HDMI?
[19:31] <DasEi> Bodsa:also you might google super-grub-disk
[19:31] <Wanderer> geeze, the mirrors are slow today
[19:31] <jjshoe> hrmph. darn courier doesn't want to display my mail...
[19:31] <enzotib> hi, how can I determine through command line if a package is a candidate to be autoremoved
[19:31] <Wanderer> taking forever just to do a stock-apt-get upate
[19:31] <Bodsda> DasEi, that thing never seemed to help, but thanks anyway
[19:32] <weatherkid> !apache
[19:32] <Wanderer> I need to find some real high speed mirrors
[19:32] <jrib> Wanderer: system -> preferences -> Software Sources  has a tool that finds you the closest mirror
[19:32] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found).
[19:33] <xiw> hello darlings.
[19:33] <Wanderer> let me see if I can log in
[19:33] <treborky> Hi all, I have a Dell Latitude D410 and the screen brightness randomly dims all the way down. I'm running 8.10... any ideas ?
[19:33] <DasEi> Bodsa:I experienced much help with SGD, especially on multiboot
[19:33] <vocx> Bodsda, you should use "grub-install" instead of the plain grub prompt. Something like "grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/"
[19:33] <Bodsda> vocx, hm, il look into it thanks, gotta boot into live cd now :)
[19:33] <g0nad> treborky: can you get it brighter by using the dell function keys?
[19:33] <oakmac1> Does anyone have experience setting resolution on TVs that overscan the image via HDMI?
[19:33] <TaG^> how do i upgrade my kernal?
[19:34] <treborky> @ g0nad: yes... but it will dim down again after about a minute.
[19:34] <oakmac1> Does anyone have experience setting resolution on TVs that overscan the image via HDMI?
[19:34] <g0nad> treborky: hmmmm, i dunno
[19:35] <vocx> TaG^, write this then times "kernel"  not "kernal"    then, You cannot update your kernel, unless you update the entire distro to the next release. Well, you can but that is for more advanced users.
[19:35] <jrib> treborky: my laptop dims when I'm on the train and the power cuts, so maybe it's related to whatever program is responsible for that (I never took the time to find out)
[19:35] <raven> hi everyone
[19:35] <Sarvatt> anyone have any tips on lowering the number of wakeups from idle per second on synaptics touchpads? it shoots up around 700/second when I use it and I've run out of things to google to try to fix it. would a higher or lower hz setting in the kernel help? tried a bunch of module options but didnt have any luck
[19:36] <DasEi> Sarvatt: have a look in man nice
[19:36] <TaG^> vocx so how do I get to 2.6.28?
[19:36] <treborky> jrib: ya it think it's a problem with gnome power manager... the OSD doesn't come up when I press the brightness up down buttons either...
[19:37] <vocx> TaG^, you update to Ubuntu 9.04 when it becomes available
[19:37] <DrGhoul_> how do I rescue a broken usb flash drive that is recognized by lsusb and in dmesg and /var/log/messages as sdi, but doesn't show up in fdisk -l or parted (Error: Error opening /dev/sdi: No medium found)
[19:37] <jrib> treborky: does it happen if you start a desktop other than gnome?
[19:37] <TaG^> I did this sudo apt-get update?
[19:37] <Royall> Where is the general hardware support chatroom?
[19:37] <Sarvatt> thank you DasEi, they're hardware interrupts though
[19:37] <jrib> Royall: ##hardware ?
[19:38] <raven> sometimes applications suddenly close (no crash report, no cpu-hang, nothing) is that a known problem and is there any solution for that yet?
[19:38] <Royall> thanks
[19:38] <vocx> TaG^, that is not enough. You need to wait till April, then it will be available and you will be able to upgrade your distribution and kernel.
[19:38] <jrib> raven: the same applications?
[19:38] <DasEi> DrGhoul_: bad sign, if not in sudo fdisk -l , looks bad - more broken then faulty, can you mount sdi1 manaullay ?
[19:38] <treborky> jrib: yes I was originally on xfce but changed to gnome... both use the gnome power manager though.
[19:39] <DasEi> Sarvatt: oh right, touchpad
[19:39] <Baversjo> Hey guys what is the easiest way to get Grub into MBR if I first installed ubuntu then windows over it? (windows is on MBR). Can I use the ubuntu installation CD?
[19:39] <jrib> treborky: I'd test something without gnome-power-manager just to trouble, or just kill it I guess and see what happens
[19:39] <DrGhoul_> DasEi: nope can't mount it, so it's probably bricked
[19:39] <DasEi> !grub | Baversjo
[19:39] <henu> hello. is it really a good idea, that any user can edit any files on the ubuntu system if X fails to start? at least i can do this in my intrepid machine.
[19:39] <afflux> hi. My mainboard broke down, so I need a new one. Any bad experiences with a nForce 520 chipset?
[19:39] <DasEi> DrGhoul_:tied on another machine ?
[19:39] <DasEi> tried*
[19:39] <Zeroyez> how does random exist? don't random number generators get numbers from a seed? isn't the seed random? how is the seed created if it's random?
[19:39] <_Whipper> DrGhoul_: Gparted
[19:40] <sebsebseb>  
[19:40] <sebsebseb>  
[19:40] <treborky> jrib: good idea... I'll kill gnome power manager and see does the problem disappear then. At least then I'd have some idea where the problem lies... thanks jrib
[19:40] <DrGhoul_> DasEi: same thing on all my linux boxes, I don't have windows
[19:40] <azlon> jrib: ok, I have the buttons for the left and right mouse wheel recognized now, but I can't figure out how to get them configured in imwheel
[19:40] <genii> Zeroyez: man rand
[19:40] <raven> jrib no - no single app but any(/every) - sporadically it closes without saving-request too. i did not get any association for any reason that causes that
[19:40] <DrGhoul_> _Whipper: It doesn't show up in GParted
[19:40] <raven> -that + yet
[19:41] <jrib> raven: do a memtest
[19:41] <DasEi> DrGhoul_:prbly broken then
[19:41] <jrib> azlon: out of curiousity, what did you have to do?
[19:41] <henu> hmm.. imho it is not a good idea to give root access to all files to anonymous users, but if ubuntu thinks it is good, then so be it :S
[19:41] <DrGhoul_> DasEi: Thanks, I wanted to be sure
[19:41] <jrib> henu: erm, what?
[19:41] <_Whipper> DrGhoul_: open it and do some heat-treatment :)
[19:41] <henu> jrib: my x fails to start and i view log files of x.. i haven't given my password.. however i am able to write to ANY directory in my system
[19:42] <DasEi> DrGhoul_:what gives a sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdi1 ?
[19:42] <henu> jrib: and i'm currently running intrepid
[19:42] <azlon> jrib: I had to get the information for the mouse using cat /proc/bus/input/devices then update my xorg.conf accordingly
[19:42] <nikitis> DasEi, yeah it works great with 1 stick ;(
[19:42] <jrib> henu: you went into recovery mode?
[19:42] <nikitis> 2gb's
[19:42] <vocx> henu, that means you are in single user mode, that is root.
[19:42] <raven> jrib i forgot about doing that again, sry - how?
[19:42] <jrib> azlon: ok.  Well you've got the button numbers with xev?
[19:43] <DasEi> nikitis: so google for a possible bios update for your board
[19:43] <jrib> raven: reboot and from the grub menu, choose "memtest"
[19:43] <azlon> jrib: yeah, 6 and 7
[19:43] <henu> yeah, but isn't it a little bit bad idea that i could do any modifications to system? what if x files when some hostile person is using machine?
[19:43] <DrGhoul_> DasEi: /dev/sdi1: No such file or directory
[19:43] <raven> right - ok
[19:43] <DrGhoul_> DasEi: So I guess the partition table is gone
[19:43] <raven> jrib but that's no public problem?
[19:44] <jrib> azlon: erm I use xbindkeys, but have you been through the docs at imwheel's site?  I remember there being some examples in the README or man page.  poke me if they aren't helpful
[19:44] <vocx> henu, it's not clear your problem. If X fails, you may logout, then login back in, but you seem to imply that it will always run in single user mode.
[19:44] <jrib> raven: public problem?
[19:45] <raven> known?
[19:45] <raven> a problem some people have?
[19:45] <jrib> raven: I'm asking you to test your memory.  No, programs randomly crashing isn't normal
[19:45] <henu> vocx: i meant a situation when x fails to open itself during boot
[19:46] <jrib> henu: anyone with physical access can do whatever they want anyway.  That's why you can enter recovery mode without a password
[19:46] <raven> ok i'll try
[19:46] <Flannel> henu: Even when X fails during boot, you don't get dropped to a root prompt.  Yes, you get dropped to a prompt, but it's just a regular prompt.
[19:46] <raven> i'll come here again after that
[19:46] <raven> thanks
[19:46] <henu> Flannel: but i can change root password right? just edit it with that gedit thing? and then log with root password
[19:46] <Flannel> henu: No.
[19:46] <simplexio> raven: define cras, if you start application from console and dies and says segmentation fault, then best quess is bad hw
[19:46] <henu> Flannel: why not?
[19:46] <azlon> jrib: I looked at the man and played around with some examples, but im not sure I filly understand how their config file is setup... looks like they use keywords instead of button numbers like this: None,Left,Alt_L|Left
[19:47] <Flannel> henu: You'll need sudo in order to modify the root password.
[19:47] <vocx> henu, well, I haven't been in that situation ever.   X, simply doesn't fail. Unless you are messing with drivers and stuff. Once it's setup, it always works.
[19:47] <jjshoe> I'm not running postfix chrooted. but I'm still getting: "warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied" anyone have thoughts on what else to check?
[19:47] <raven> right
[19:47] <raven> i'll try
[19:47] <henu> Flannel: no, i think i can modify ANY files on the system with that gedit
[19:47] <Flannel> henu: No, you can't.
[19:47] <Flannel> henu: Well, with sudo you can, but a malicious user won't have access to sudo.
[19:48] <simplexio> henu: if system is in default configuration, you dont. have use sudo
[19:48] <Gorlist> Good evening - is their a way I can reset all of my Ubuntu audio setup/configs? For somereason all I hear is static. It was working fine. Skype audio still works, just nothing else
[19:48] <vocx> henu, as everybody is explaining to you, you need to provide more info on the specific description of what you see now as a security description
[19:49] <azlon> jrib: I think I am going to uninstall imwheel and give xbindkeys a shot
[19:49] <jrib> azlon: looks like MODIFIER, BUTTON, ACTION
[19:50] <itsme> server irc.epiknet.org
[19:50] <vocx> jrib, can I ask you something? If xev doesn't detect a certain button then there's no way to make it work? If xev detects it, then there's still hope?
[19:50] <CokeNCode> anyone familiar with pork ?
[19:51] <CokeNCode> it seems to suck a bit, but it comes up when you do an apt-cache search bitchx
[19:51] <_CommandeR_> hello, i got some problems with Ubuntu and my Intel Graphic card would anyone like to help me ?
[19:51] <jrib> vocx: not really, but in general if xev doesn't detect a button then you need to make it detect (probably by making sure evdev gets used).  If xev detects it ok, then you should be able to configure actions for it using xbindkeys or imwheel.  I've seen other solutions too though
[19:51] <henu> Flannel: i just rebooted my machine and wrote to /etc/fstab.. and i never logged in and i never gave any password during this session
[19:51] <Flannel> CokeNCode: Try centerim if you're looking for a ncurses messenger (or finch, which uses libpurple)
[19:51] <Flannel> henu: Did you select the recovery console when you were booting?
[19:52] <Zeroyez> what is the difference between linux-image-2.6.28-9-generic and linux-image-2.6.28-9-server?
[19:52] <wal3> hello. I tried to change the mount options of my usb stick. so I did a right-click -> prop -> drive and edited it. now the usb stick isnt mountable anymore, how can I undo it?
[19:52] <The_Joe_> Are there any audio settings for JRE 6 on Ubuntu? I can't seem to get sound in Java applets (namely games)
[19:52] <CokeNCode> hmmm, finch sounds promising ... thanks. Flannel, what do you think of pork ?
[19:52] <henu> Flannel: x failed and informed about that.. then i chose "troubleshoot error" from that graphical mode with low resolution.. and from there i chose "view log files"
[19:52] <The_Joe_> If it helps my audio driver is HDA-intel on PulseAudio
[19:52] <henu> Flannel: and that opened a gedit session with root access to files
[19:52] <henu> Flannel: and i think that is not good thing
[19:53] <Flannel> henu: File a bug, since if that's true then I agree.
[19:53] <Flannel> CokeNCode: I've never used it.
[19:53] <vocx> jrib, I used to configure a few buttons with xmodmap, but I guess xbindkeys provides a higher level or configuration?
[19:53] <wewe> hi
[19:53] <Flannel> Zeroyez: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel  That explains some of the modifications to the server kernel.
[19:53] <jrib> henu: so can you sudo in a terminal without being requested a password?
[19:53] <_CommandeR_> Hello everyone
[19:53] <henu> i cannot file bug now, coz my x isn't working, but i can file it as soon as i get a good browser working :)
[19:54] <_CommandeR_> i did
[19:54] <wewe> anybody can help me what to do if, pulseaudio recognize, my soundcard's capture, but it doesn't capture any sound?
[19:54] <jrib> vocx: well you can run commands on button presses, which you don't really do with xmodmap
[19:54] <henu> jrib: no.. but i can edit some files and change passwords so i can use sudo and do whatever i want..
[19:54] <Flannel> jrib: Apparently some X fallback thing opens up a root editor
[19:55] <CokeNCode> whoa, how the heck did finch pick up my msn account ... cool
[19:55] <Hancok> can any one tell me a verygood and free ext3 filesystem recovery app to recover my deleted or formated files/data ?
[19:55] <lorenzosu> anyone know any resources for a hardware-faulty hard disk?
[19:55] <Zeroyez> thanks Flannel, would you be able to explain the difference between linux-server and linux-image-server?
[19:55] <jrib> Flannel: I guess it can do that since gdm runs as root?
[19:55] <The_Joe_> Any help would be appreciated.
[19:55] <Flannel> jrib: I have no idea.  I'm not familiar with all the fallback stuff they've added.
[19:55] <jrib> !recover | Hancok
[19:55] <vocx> Flannel, I believe what he has is a broken system, so it really doesn't matter at this point. Yes he can edit all his files, but if the rest is not working...
[19:56] <Flannel> Zeroyez: linux-server is a metapackage, (and actually linux-image-server is a metapackage as well)
[19:56] <Zeroyez> so they both give the same thing?
[19:56] <Flannel> vocx: Right, but its still a vulnerability.
[19:56] <henu> vocx: talking about x problem? but i can log using low resolution x session and do very nasty things with that machine anyway
[19:56] <wewe> anybody can help me what to do if, pulseaudio recognize, my soundcard's capture, but it doesn't capture any sound?
[19:56] <Flannel> Zeroyez: linux-server depends on linux-image-server, so installing linux-server installs linux-image-server (and linux-server doesn't have any files in it)
[19:56] <The_Joe_> Thank you very much ¬¬
[19:56] <_CommandeR_> Hello everyone
[19:57] <Flannel> vocx: If one can force X to break, etc, etc, etc.
[19:57] <Zeroyez> oh ok thanks
[19:57] <lorenzosu> my sister's hard disk crashed and now makes a strange "clock-like" sound.. how can I try recovering files?
[19:57] <vocx> henu, yes, that's standard behavior, you can have access, in order to repair your system. If you decide to delete more stuff, then it's your fault.
[19:57] <_CommandeR_> I need some help with my laptop Compaq HP 6510b, it got pretty bad 3d performance
[19:58] <Hancok> can any one tell me a verygood and free ext3 filesystem recovery app to recover my deleted or formated files/data ?
[19:58] <henu> vocx: but isn't that a little bit bad thing? what if x fails for example at the machine of your school, library, etc.?
[19:59] <kc8pxy> is there simple way i can fill up my approx server, before people do any downloading of packages?
[19:59] <The_Joe_> I'll attempt to ask again
[19:59] <vocx> henu, I'm telling you, it doesn't fail like that. Because it shouldn't. You obviously borked your system because you were installing things, weren't you.
[19:59] <jjshoe> what are the risks of using a package from gutsy with intrepid?
[20:00] <jjshoe> I'm after tmda, but it doesn't have a package for intrepid
[20:00] <The_Joe_> I have JRE6, PulseAudio and HDAIntel and I have no sound coming from Java Applets - is there any kind of configuration for Java and Audio?
[20:00] <vocx> jjshoe, what is that? Find out why it was obsoleted.
[20:00] <henu> vocx: yeah, i know i broke my x because i'm obviously a noob, but what if x sometimes fails because of other reasons? then ANYONE using that machine can take it over
[20:00] <Hancok> windows have many  app for fat32 and ntfs. why not ext3?
[20:00] <jjshoe> vocx tagged message delivery agent. either way I'm installing it, question is if I should use an older package, or just do an install from source.
[20:01] <Flannel> !undelete | Hancok
[20:01] <kc8pxy> Hancok:  there is a filesystem driver for ext2/3, but my experience, is "don't use it unless you HAVE to, and don't use it much".
[20:01] <vocx> henu, what other reason? You can't speculate with security issues, that's why I'm telling you that you should provide some testcases. You can't just say, "hey this is a bug! fix it."
[20:02] <KewliOO> Can someone help me out here...
[20:02] <Flannel> vocx: Just drop it.  It is indeed a vulnerability if he's accurate in describing it (which I have no reason to believe otherwise).  Stop being difficult.
[20:02] <vocx> jjshoe, install from source. Packages have dependency information, so the package manager may go nuts trying to install versions that aren't available, but it is also not a big deal, unless it overwrites dependencies.
[20:03] <over1ord> hello; I'm having problems installing xubuntu. I'm having problems actually booting the live cd; my computer can't read the live cd. I've set the boot order up correctly, have tried different versions of xubuntu, I've tried to format my HDD with gpaeted live cd but that isn't detected either :/ Anyone have any suggestions?
[20:03] <Flannel> !prevu | jjshoe
[20:03] <Flannel> jjshoe: try to "backport" it with prevu
[20:03] <lorenzosu> my sister's hard disk crashed and now makes a strange "clock-like" sound.. how can I try recovering files?
[20:03] <vocx> Flannel, I'm not being difficult. I do think he has trouble describing the problem. I believe in peer review, that's all.
[20:04] <Hancok> Flannel thx
[20:04] <Flannel> vocx: From what he describes, it's an accurate bug, and an accurate security vulnerability.  Once he files a bug report, we'll be able to see specifics.
[20:04] <azlon> jrib: would the left mouse button be Button_1? if so, then my left mouse whell would potentially be Button_6 since xev says the button is 6
[20:04] <Hancok> kc8pxy thx
[20:04] <whileimhere> Hi. I know that this might not be the right room but.... Is there a good non-US and non-Google search engine?
[20:04] <Chaorain> I was messing with Cairo dock then my windows got an Areo theme to them. Help?
[20:05] <Gnewt> I have a serial barcode scanner that sends data on pin 2... it's plugged into a USB->Serial... what's the easiest way to see the output of pin 2? Catting is getting me nothing.
[20:05] <netman86> Okay, I'm trying to give ubuntu a second chance, but so far it's driving me UP A WALL. I've managed to get it to enable my wireless card, and associate with an SSID, but it doesnt even seem to have dhcpcd, how the hell am I supposed to use dhcp?
[20:06] <KewliOO> Can someone help me out here... I had Wine 1.0.1 installed and my wireles internet worked fine....then when I updated to Wine 1.1.17 my wireless internet is connected ..but no programsd can seem to use the internet...
[20:06] <jjshoe> Flannel I'm not on an older distro going for a newer package, I'm on a newer distro after an older package. This document makes it sound like it helps me grab a newer package for an older distro, no?
[20:06] <Flannel> jjshoe: that's how its written (and designed for).  But all it *really* does is automate a custom deb build for an arbitrary source package.
[20:07] <vocx> Flannel, it's just what it's supposed to happen, that's just my point.
[20:07] <KewliOO> Can someone help me out here... I had Wine 1.0.1 installed and my wireles internet worked fine....then when I updated to Wine 1.1.17 my wireless internet is connected ..but no programsd can seem to use the internet...
[20:07] <Flannel> vocx: Then its broken by design, and that needs to be addressed.
[20:07] <jjshoe> Flannel https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo following this url, won't checkinstall also make a package out of it for me?
[20:07] <jjshoe> Flannel seems far less resource hoggish too
[20:08] <vocx> Flannel, maybe...
[20:08] <hkais1> hello
[20:08] <Flannel> jjshoe: Yeah, Checkinstall will.  But it'll be a rougher package (you're just basically remembering what files are produced with the compile, instead of using the pre-packaged deb).  Although you can use an arbitrary (and newer) source version as well.  CheckInstall will work fine.
[20:09] <jjshoe> Flannel k, I get the risk if it's a piece of a puzzel that is dependent on something that changes, and if other things depend on this and it changes a lot. however it's something that I will probably never change after install.
[20:09] <KewliOO> How Do I remove Wine from my Ubuntu 8.10???
[20:10] <hkais1> i have compiz running. i would like to use devilspie, but how can i configure it?
[20:10] <plouffe> I have the problem that flash stops playing after a while of having firefox open and I can only make it play by restarting firefox. Is there any other solution? (64 amd, Ubuntu8.10)
[20:11] <plouffe> affects mostly flash videos
[20:11] <lorenzosu> my sister's hard disk crashed and now makes a strange "clock-like" sound.. how can I try recovering files?
[20:11] <hkais1> lorenzosu: if you have luck you could try to access is under linux
[20:11] <vocx> KewliOO, "sudo aptitude purge wine"
[20:12] <lorenzosu> hkais1: I'm under ubuntu right now
[20:12] <RoastedTiresX> Does anybody use FOG on Ubuntu?
[20:12] <TaG^> ok.. I have change something in a file and saved it .... it now called  Change.patch~ why is there two file there now? Change.patch~, Change.patch .. do i have to delete one?
[20:12] <Flannel> lorenzosu: Plug it in, and read everything off of it (to a different hard drive)
[20:12] <plouffe> sdfkj
[20:12] <doleyb> plouffe: as a workaround, you could use some other browser for flash playing (ephiphany).  That would mean putting Flashblock on firefox.
[20:12] <plouffe> epiphany has the same problem
[20:12] <plouffe> doleyb: epiphany has the same problem
[20:12] <lorenzosu> Flannel: I wish it was so somple... it seems a hardware fault when I plug it in it makes a strange clock-like noise
[20:12] <hkais1> lorenzosu: but usually the hdd is "gone". do you have a additional drive?
[20:12] <_CommandeR_> hello everyone
[20:13] <bigrigger> TaG^: it's a auto-backup file, you can delete if you want.
[20:13] <doleyb> plouffe: yes, but you can restart it without closing any other web page you might using
[20:13] <Flannel> lorenzosu: Yes, the hard drive is failing.  Does it not work, even when its clicking?
[20:13] <TomFromWkUp> Hi! I'm trying to run a perl script on apache2. Everything is alright, but SOMETIMES the browser is asking me to download the file instead of running it... What could it be?
[20:13] <lorenzosu> hkais1: Yes... I've just booted from that I had a ubuntu on a usb... put it in the laptop put the broken one in a usb case
[20:13] <_CommandeR_> i have some problems with my  =VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)  have pretty bad performance in intrepid
[20:13] <lorenzosu> Flannel: no
[20:13] <TaG^> bigrigger this one it the backup file Change.patch~?
[20:13] <tyg13> Does anyone know how to find your motherboard model in ubuntu?
[20:14] <Flannel> lorenzosu: Then there's no way to get the data off, except to take it somewhere for them to yank the guts out
[20:14] <hkais1> lorenzosu: can you mount the drive?
[20:14] <lorenzosu> hkais1: Not sure.
[20:14] <zaccour> i have a 4 gb flash drive but in gpartded it says its only 3.73. how do i reformat it to make it completely clear and 4 gb?
[20:14] <vocx> TaG^, many editors by default create a backup which end in ~, you can delete them or change the editor preferences to not create them. This is done specially because sometimes you edit system files and other important files for you.
[20:14] <lorenzosu> hkais1: Ubuntu doesn't automount it when I plug it in
[20:14] <WebGuest1> ActionParsnip It seems that Ubuntu doesn't like using ntfs for /home. So I guess I am just going to move "my documents" under windows to the ntfs partition, and then create symbolic links from ubuntu to this partition for all of the seperate folders in the /home folder
[20:14] <netman86> Does ubuntu have a CLI text editor installed? It doesnt seem to have nano or pico...
[20:15] <Lighttitan_> I have two harddrives... as I was setting up Ubuntu I had it format the secondary with a mount point of "/" if I remember correctly, but I can't find access to that harddrive now.
[20:15] <bigrigger> TaG^: the original file is saved a file~  yes.
[20:15] <vocx> jjshoe, it apparently is unmaintained in debian https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmda
[20:15] <Cpudan80> zaccour: 3.73 is as close as you're gonna get to 4.0
[20:15] <Flannel> netman86: It has nano installed by default, yes.
[20:15] <TaG^> ok.. thanks
[20:15] <zaccour> Cpudan80, really? so its not really 4 gb then............
[20:15] <Cpudan80> zaccour: roughly 10% of the drive space is eaten before you put anything on it
[20:15] <zaccour> that sucks
[20:15] <Cpudan80> zaccour: it's the old 1000kb = 1MB argument
[20:16] <Cpudan80> 1000kB != 1MB
[20:16] <zaccour> im gonna take it back to wal mart and get a 6 gb then
[20:16] <netman86> Well, if it has nano installed, is it in the path? It tells me it cant be found. I wonder if dell ships stripped down versions...
[20:16] <Cpudan80> 1000 anything computer related != 1 (higher power thing)
[20:16] <zaccour> Cpudan80, will a 6 gb usb flash drive hold the data of a 4.7 gb os?
[20:16] <vocx> netman86, it has nano by default, it also has a small version of vim
[20:16] <Flannel> netman86: It is in the path, and its the default editor.  Dell very well may.
[20:16] <WebGuest1> zaccour yes
[20:16] <Cpudan80> zaccour: I really dont know .... I would think so
[20:16] <vocx> !info nano
[20:16] <zaccour> ok cool thanks
[20:17] <hkais1> lorenzosu: disconnect the drive.
[20:17] <hkais1> enter: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[20:17] <hkais1> reconnect the drive (wait for at least 30secs)
[20:17] <gartral> Cpudan80: 1024 kb = 1MB 1000 kb = 1MiB
[20:17] <deany> Im gettin dell mini 9 delivered tomorrow hopefully
[20:17] <lorenzosu> hkais1: done
[20:17] <netman86> Hum. Well, I cant get apt-get to find *anything*, but it doesnt seem any of the sources are commented out. My system also can't find nano, but I'll just assume that dell didn't include it in the build.
[20:17] <Flannel> netman86: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard, that'll install nano (and who knows what else you're missing)
[20:17] <netman86> If I could get apt-get to do something useful...
[20:17] <Cpudan80> gartral: 1000kb = 1MiB ?
[20:17] <Flannel> netman86: sudo apt-get update
[20:17] <deany> for my mother.. probably end up puttin 8.10 on myself tho
[20:17] <Lighttitan_> what's the best partition program to use with Ubuntu already installed?
[20:17] <Cpudan80> gartral: 1000 kilo-bits != 1 Mega byte
[20:18] <Cpudan80> b = bits, B = bytes
[20:18] <vocx> netman86, pastebin your sources.list
[20:18] <netman86> ha, odd. apt-get update didnt work 10 mins ago, seems to be doing something now. Thanks!
[20:18] <Cpudan80> anyway - offtopic
[20:18] <hkais1> lorenzosu: paste the output into pastebin
[20:18] <Cpudan80> Lighttitan_: gparted
[20:18] <_CommandeR_> Hello everyone, i need some help with my Laptop Compaq 6510b Intel 965GM card, I got the Compiz to work but the 3d performance in Frets on Fire and Audiosurf is pretty bad
[20:18] <Flannel> netman86: Once there, install ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal, and then you'll be sure you're not getting weird dell stuff.
[20:18] <Lighttitan_> Thanks Cpudan80
[20:18] <lorenzosu> hkais1: sorry what should aI paste?
[20:18] <Flannel> netman86: Or weird dell stripping, that is.
[20:18] <hkais1> the output of the tail
[20:19] <Cpudan80> Lighttitan_: It's a package you can download if not already installed
[20:19] <Cpudan80> !info gparted
[20:19] <netman86> will do. Thanks, Flannel.
[20:19] <vocx> Flannel, do you know if by any chance Dell maintains repos of their own?
[20:19] <Lighttitan_> yup, pulling it from Synaptic already, thanks!
[20:19] <deany> vocx, yes
[20:19] <hkais1> i have compiz running. i would like to use devilspie, but how can i configure it?
[20:20] <hkais1> devilspie isn't recognizing my workspaces correctly
[20:20] <vocx> hkais1, maybe it doesn't work with compiz?
[20:20] <CarlFK1> what package will satisfy  ffmpeg: error while loading shared libraries: libavutil.so.50: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:21] <hkais1> vocx: maybe, but i can set the compiz viewports, and it is running really oddly. maybe there is a similar tool for compiz?
[20:21] <RoastedTiresX> Does anybody use FOG on Ubuntu?
[20:21] <lorenzosu> hkais1: No visible change after plugging bac in
[20:21] <RoastedTiresX> can anybody hear me?
[20:21] <RoastedTiresX> IDENTIFY
[20:21] <hkais1> lorenzosu: could you try it with a usb-stick and the tail?
[20:22] <vocx> hkais1, maybe not, since it messes with the window manager, and compiz does weird stuff.
[20:23] <vocx> CarlFK1, there is a package called "libavutil49" but yours is version 50, so I assume you are on Ubuntu 9.04 or maybe running things from source, or another distro.
[20:23] <lorenzosu> hkais1: I get a handful of messages the last one saying:  mounted /dev/sdb on behalf of uid 1000
[20:23] <wal3> hello. I tried to change the mount options of my usb stick. so I did a right-click -> prop -> drive and edited it. now the usb stick isnt mountable anymore, how can I undo it?
[20:23] <CarlFK1> vocx: jaunty, trying to build ffmpeg with x264
[20:23] <hkais1> lorenzosu: okay fine. and bad for you. the drive isn't recognized. you should get similar output, then connecting your defect usb-drive
[20:24] <soulasassin> can anybody tell me why applications would still show in the launcher menu after ive removed them through apt?
[20:24] <vocx> CarlFK1, please go to #ubuntu+1  but you already know that.
[20:24] <rayne_> I have a built in Mic on my laptop and was unable to find a fix on the forums on how to get it working in 8.10
[20:24] <CarlFK1> vocx: oh yeah - things are working so well here i forgot it wasn't stable yet :)
[20:24] <lorenzosu> hkais1: Yes I think it's some hardware fault... I just thoght there might be some lower level tool like the good old norton disk doktor or similar for ubunt
[20:24] <RoastedTiresX> <3
[20:24] <chattr> CarlFK, you can search ubuntu's packages via http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:25] <jhearn1> i need help wen i boot my ubuntu it just comes up with command line rather rather than the normal one
[20:25] <chattr> CarlFK, it looks as if libavutil.so is provided by libavutil-dev
[20:25] <hkais1> lorenzosu: sure, if the drive reports back, but which device do you want to access, if the drive does not respond?
[20:25] <vocx> CarlFK1, you must install "apt-file" it can tell you were a particular file is located in.
[20:25] <lorenzosu> hkais1: good point :(
[20:26] <CarlFK1> vocx: right.  i was trying apt-cache... thanks.
[20:26] <CokeNCode> ok guys, i need some easy to use audio editing software. Any suggestions?
[20:26] <bigrigger> CokeNCode: audacity
[20:26] <gartral> CarlFK if i remember correctly, apt-cache is for searching files in the repos
[20:27] <jhearn1> my ubuntu wont boot properly im just coming up with the command line thing how do i get it to boot properly??
[20:27] <CokeNCode> audacity allows me to cut stuff out of songs etc ?
[20:27] <chattr> CarlFK, you can search ubuntu's packages via http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:27] <bigrigger> CokeNCode: yes sir
[20:27] <jphenow> can anyone help me? I uninstalled my ubuntu x86 8.10 so I could use Kubuntu 64bit 8.10 and now the X won't even open up for an installation much less actually using it
[20:28] <vocx> gartral, apt-cache searches in the packages you have installed (cache), wheras apt-files searches every package, whether it is installed or not
[20:28] <CokeNCode> awesome, i used it all that time and didn't realise it could do all that. Just thought it played music.
[20:28] <hkais1> lorenzosu: you have one option more. try to reduce the drive temp to about fridgetemp. do not forget, that the humidity could be a problem. connect the drive again and work quick! you could be lucky if the drive reports back.
[20:28] <bigrigger> CokeNCode: you may be confusing audacity with audacious
[20:28] <CokeNCode> bigrigger ... naw, i used to use audacity
[20:29] <mrwes> or bodacious
[20:29] <mrwes> :)
[20:29] <gartral> mrwes: ot...
[20:29] <chattr> CarlFK, you can search ubuntu's packages via http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[20:29] <netman86> How to I check which package a command belongs to?
[20:29] <chattr> CarlFK, it looks as if libavutil.so is provided by libavutil-dev
[20:29] <soulasassin> can anybody tell me why icons for programs would still show in the application launcher menu after ive removed them through apt?
[20:29] <mrwes> gardar, yah...couldn't resist
[20:29] <jhearn1> can any one help me, ubuntu wont boot properly i just installed 8.04 and it is just coming up with the command line bit and no log in screen how can i make it work, iv tried reinstalling and i get the same problem.
[20:29] <hkais1> lozenzosu: if this wont't work. try to buy the identical harddrive. replace the board on the hdd with the new one and try to access the data. if this fails you can contact a professional datarecovery service (~200$/GB)
[20:29] <vocx> chattr, dude he already got an answer minutes ago
[20:30] <mrwes> er gartral even
[20:30] <jphenow> can anyone help me? I uninstalled my ubuntu x86 8.10 so I could use Kubuntu 64bit 8.10 and now the X won't even open up for an installation much less actually using it
[20:30] <chattr> vocx, apologies
[20:30] <hkais1> vocx: do you know a replacement for devilspie?
[20:30] <oem> Hey! I am a newbie. Can someone help me with something? The "TEST" button in Screens and Graphics under System/Administration is grey and i can't use it to test screen resolution. Anyone know how i can make it usable? I got ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy)
[20:30] <vocx> jphenow, download Ubuntu 64-bit, then install it, then install the KDE desktop.
[20:30] <gartral> jphenow: did you completely reinstall?
[20:31] <jphenow> yes and BTW I tried ubuntu...similar issues
[20:31] <mrwes> jphenow, you should have just added the KDE desktop
[20:31] <CokeNCode> whoops,' they are stopped jobs' ... how do i see what jobs are stopped?
[20:31] <jhearn1> can any one help me, ubuntu wont boot properly i just installed 8.04 and it is just coming up with the command line bit and no log in screen how can i make it work, iv tried reinstalling and i get the same problem.
[20:31] <dronix> jphenow: what gfx card r u using?
[20:31] <jhearn1> can any one help me, ubuntu wont boot properly i just installed 8.04 and it is just coming up with the command line bit and no log in screen how can i make it work, iv tried reinstalling and i get the same problem.
[20:31] <CokeNCode> I hope i didn't bork the installation
[20:32] <jphenow> i was going to switch to a 64 bit, that was the main point, and I have a 8500GT nvidia
[20:32] <mrwes> jhearn1, did you try the live CD first?
[20:32] <vocx> jhearn1, did you install the server edition?
[20:32] <gartral> jphenow: what graphics card do you have, i doubt its the issue, but it might be cause you dont have the restricted drivers (ATI/Nvidia)
[20:32] <jhearn1> no im not that stupid =D
[20:32] <soulasassin> could anybody please tell me why icons for programs would still show in the application launcher menu after ive removed them through apt?
[20:32] <jphenow> 8500GT nvidia
[20:32] <dronix> jhearn1: startx
[20:32] <jhearn1> okkkkkkkkkkkkk
[20:32] <jhearn1> il try that
[20:32] <mrwes> jhearn1, relax :)
[20:33] <oem> Im running on oldschool Geforce 2 MX/MX 400 :D
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> soulasassin,  which applications are those?
[20:33] <oem> maby that's why my TEST button doesn't work in "SCREENS AND GRAPHICS"?
[20:33] <soulasassin> ermm kmedia factory and kvirc
[20:33] <jphenow> Gartral I have a geforce 8500gt
[20:33] <mrwes> soulasassin, edit menus and remove the check marks
[20:33] <vocx> soulasassin, maybe the uninstaller didn't perform clean up properly. Use "aptitude purge <package>"  to remove everything. See if that works.
[20:34] <Baversjo> Ubuntu owns.
[20:34] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me, I have just downloaded pdt-all-in-one-linux-gtk-2.0.0GA.tar.gz (eclipse) from the site, how can I install that on ubuntu?
[20:34] <dronix> soulasassin: sudo apt-get --purge remove appname
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> or the menus may refresh and remove those icons when you next login
[20:34] <gartral> oem: i have an MX 400 and i can't get screen rotation to work
[20:35] <gartral> jphenow: try getting the restricted drivers, but i don't know the package name
[20:35] <soulasassin> menu editor has sorted it. very new to linux so im still finding my feet so to speak
[20:35] <koro> hi. I'm trying to disable the two side buttons of my mouse (forward/back) after updating to ubuntu 8.10, but the mouse section of the xorg.conf file now says "# commented out by update-manager, HAL is now used". What can i do to disable these buttons?
[20:35] <koro> my problem is that the buttons are too sensitive and i keep pressing them by mistake. In some contexts in gnome it acts like a left click, so that can be pretty annoying
[20:36] <gartral> koro: good Q: id'e like too know that one myself
[20:36] <jphenow> nvidia-glx-180...got them and all I end up at is a 640x480 res and can't get much better than that
[20:36] <SEVILLA> when is 9.04 going to be released
[20:36] <koro> oh did my question show up?
[20:36] <koro> i wasn't identified with nickserv, i got a message that i should identify to speak in this channel
[20:37] <Flannel> koro: it did
[20:37] <vocx> koro, in some instances you can add the sections (uncomment) to the xorg.conf, and it will override the defaults. I don't know if you've tried that already. Check the xorg logs to see if your changes made effect.
[20:37] <mrwes> SEVILLA, April
[20:37] <gartral> SEVILLA: if this 09/03.... and ubuntu uses there release date for there version number, then....
[20:38] <vocx> koro, yes, apparently unidentified people get a warning, but it's no big deal.
[20:38] <koro> okayu
[20:38] <koro> vocx: the problem is that even in the old setting, i'm not sure how to disable the buttons
[20:38] <vocx> koro, that's a problem, meh
[20:39] <gartral> how do i get a proper DATE STAMP out of the clock in gnome?
[20:39] <koro> should an option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 4 5" make it ignore the 6 and 7?
[20:39] <oem> Hey! I am a newbie. Can someone help me with something? The "TEST" button in Screens and Graphics under System/Administration is grey and i can't use it to test screen resolution. Anyone know how i can make it usable? I got ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy)
[20:39] <koro> i think i tried this before and it didn't work, lemme try again
[20:39] <SEVILLA> gartral: cool thanks
[20:39] <koro> but if anyone has another idea of how to do this i'd appreciate it
[20:39] <dronix> oem: did u installed the drivers for your gfx card?
[20:40] <SEVILLA> gartral: i feel stupid now looking at
[20:40] <gartral> oem, it might help to compile the drivers yourself
[20:40] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me, I have just downloaded pdt-all-in-one-linux-gtk-2.0.0GA.tar.gz (eclipse) from the site, how can I install that on ubuntu?
[20:40] <Cpudan80> oem: why are you using 7.10?
[20:41] <koro> would ctrl+alt+backspace reload the xorg.conf after i made some changes?
[20:41] <Cpudan80> oem: the newest is 8.10 (Intrepid)
[20:41] <oem> Because when i upgrade i loose my wireless =) ALWAYS! =)
[20:41] <koro> or do i have to stop gdm and restart
[20:41] <Cpudan80> are you using WPA2 or something for wifi ?
[20:41] <gartral> Kingsy101: you avoid it, if at all possible
[20:41] <bpmarkham1> i have a fresh install of xubuntu on my ps3 and can't install anything. apt-get install keeps getting stuck at "processing triggers for man-db" any ideas anyone?
[20:41] <dronix> oem: when u loose your wireless connectivity, does your wired connection work?
[20:41] <Cpudan80> That is broken in Intrepid, but there is a fix
[20:42] <wal3> hello. I tried to change the mount options of my usb stick. so I did a right-click -> prop -> drive and edited it. now the usb stick isnt mountable anymore, how can I undo it?
[20:42] <oem> Just a regular WPA Personal
[20:42] <_CommandeR_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1094073&highlight=Compaq+6510b
[20:42] <_CommandeR_> Hello everyone, i need some help with my Laptop Compaq 6510b Intel 965GM card, I got the Compiz to work but the 3d performance in Frets on Fire and Audiosurf is pretty bad
[20:42] <Kingsy101> gartral - well I tried to add it through the add/remove in the menu BUT I need the PDT extension installed and it doesnt install if you add it through there..
[20:42] <TaG^> is there another linux distro like ubuntu that u can install through winxp?
[20:42] <MedianMajik> with wubi?
[20:43] <TaG^> yes..
[20:43] <gartral> wal3: depending on how "broken" it is, it may be as simple as trying another USB port, or it may need reformatting from a computer thats not linux based
[20:43] <dronix> Tag^: u can use wubi to install, ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu
[20:43] <oem> No i loose the "Wireless connection" in Network Settings and the only thing that's left is a bloody "Modem Connection"
[20:43] <Kingsy101> gartral - so I decided to remove it and try installing a something with it already built in...
[20:43] <emma> is there a technique for literally restarting pulse audio? it's buggered up my audio and i have none now.
[20:43] <Kingsy101> gatral - any ideas?
[20:43] <emma> is there any way to do this without restarting my computer?
[20:43] <corinth> If I have Ubuntu use my whole hard drive and automatically set up the partitions, will it only create / and swap, or will it create a /home partition by default?
[20:44] <Flannel> corinth: Not by default, no.
[20:44] <Cpudan80> corinth: default is / and swap
[20:44] <corinth> What's a good size for a / partition on a 160 GB drive?
[20:44] <azlon> when I cancel a download in firefox, is the .part file deleted?
[20:44] <Flannel> corinth: Are you running a server or anything like that? (putting a lot of stuff in /var?)
[20:44] <azlon> or is the temporary file deleted?
[20:45] <dronix> corinth: what r u trying to install?
[20:45] <Cpudan80> corinth: what are you going to end up with?
[20:45] <corinth> Flannel: Nope. Installing Ubuntu on a friend's pc.
[20:45] <Cpudan80> corinth: /, swap and /home ?
[20:45] <gartral> corinth: depending on the amount of ram in the system, anywhere from 158-150
[20:45] <dronix> azlon: yes
[20:45] <Flannel> corinth: 20G will be plenty for / then
[20:45] <corinth> Thanks.
[20:45] <Cpudan80> 20GB for / ?
[20:45] <corinth> Isn't 20GB a little large for / though?
[20:45] <Kingsy101> gartral - sorry to ask again but what should I do? I need it install eclipse with PDT
[20:46] <Cpudan80> corinth: What partitions do you want to end up with
[20:46] <corinth> Just /, swap, and /home
[20:46] <Cpudan80> If anything its too small
[20:46] <gartral> hrm... you need the extension registered, or do you need a reader for those files?
[20:46] <Cpudan80> 50 for /
[20:46] <Flannel> corinth: You could probably get away with 15, but with 160G, is 3% really significant?
[20:46] <Flannel> Cpudan80: No way.
[20:46] <Cpudan80> twice the ram for swap and the rest for /home
[20:46] <corinth> 20GBit is, then.
[20:46] <Cpudan80> ok 40
[20:47] <Kingsy101> gartral - well I don't have anything installed at the moment..
[20:47] <sebsebseb>  
[20:47] <Cpudan80> but I wouldnt go below 40
[20:47] <sebsebseb>  
[20:47]  * gartral has 3 times his ram for a swap part
[20:47] <Cpudan80> All the programs you install end up in /
[20:47] <Cpudan80> granted their settings dont ... but ....
[20:47] <Flannel> Cpudan80: and programs are tiny.
[20:47] <Cpudan80> Flannel: I disagree, but ok
[20:47] <bpmarkham1> i have a fresh install of xubuntu on my ps3 and can't install anything. apt-get install keeps getting stuck at "processing triggers for man-db" any ideas anyone? same thing happens for an ubuntu install. I'm also using the ported ps3 iso.
[20:47] <Cpudan80> Eclipse, linux source, ....
[20:48] <corinth> How can I figure out how much ram this guy has?
[20:48] <Rods_Tiger> is swap necessary these days?
[20:48] <Flannel> Rods_Tiger: Depends on your RAM.  Also, if you plan to hibernate.
[20:48] <gartral> Kingsy101: what are PDTs used for?
[20:48] <Cpudan80> Rods_Tiger: most definitely yes
[20:48] <Cpudan80> Rods_Tiger: Its roughly equivalent to the page file in windows
[20:48] <MedianMajik> I would recommend no less than 50gb if ubuntu is your main os
[20:48] <Rods_Tiger> not familiar with windows
[20:48] <Kingsy101> PDT is a php extension for eclipse
[20:49] <Wanderer> GRRRR why isn't md0 coming up
[20:49] <Cpudan80> Rods_Tiger: On disk cache basically
[20:49] <Kingsy101> gartal - I need eclipse PDT to help with a e-commerce system i am devleoping with
[20:49] <Cpudan80> SSD might could go without swap
[20:49] <gartral> Rods_Tiger: swap adds the neat ability to open more than you have RAM for, without it, you might very quickly find yourself unable to open something, or even run stabily
[20:50] <Rods_Tiger> my OS X Activity Monitor says I have 791.11MB swap used right now.
[20:50] <Rods_Tiger> with 2GB ram.
[20:50] <sebsebseb> test
[20:50] <sebsebseb> test
[20:50] <gartral> Kingsy101: im sorry, but your going to either have to google for a deb of the PDT package, or compile from source
[20:50] <bpmarkham1> gt
[20:50] <Rods_Tiger> but it also says 11.89GB VM size.
[20:50] <bigrigger> corinth: in a terminal type 'free'  or man free for options
[20:50] <arturo> hi, i am an Ubuntu user and i like to use firefox, but when i has been installed firefox 3.1beta ... my firefix is corrupt and it is not running
[20:51] <dronix> arturo: uninstall firefox, and install it again
[20:51] <bpmarkham1> i have a fresh install of xubuntu on my ps3 and can't install anything. apt-get install keeps getting stuck at "processing triggers for man-db" any ideas anyone? same thing happens for an ubuntu install. I'm also using the ported ps3 iso.
[20:51] <azlon> how can I move my close, minimize, maximize buttons to the right instead of the left of the title bar?
[20:51] <gartral> sebsebseb: i see your tests
[20:51] <[DarkSun]> id there anyone here who can help with a sparc ubuntu install?
[20:51] <arturo> dear dronix... i has been make it!!!  but no fix my problem
[20:51] <sebsebseb> gartral: ok well I am getting a message telling me to log in
[20:51] <gartral> azlon either find, or make your own theme
[20:52] <sebsebseb> gartral: to indenty when I message
[20:52] <dronix> arturo: do u get any errors?
[20:52] <bpmarkham1> REGISTER
[20:52] <azlon> gartral: I downloaded a theme, but it put my buttons on the left... I want to move them back to the right
[20:52] <gartral> then your going to have to edit, and reload that theme, sorry
[20:52] <_CommandeR_> Hello everyone, i need some help with my Laptop Compaq 6510b Intel 965GM card, I got the Compiz to work but the 3d performance in Frets on Fire and Audiosurf is pretty bad
[20:53] <arturo> firefox show me a message "Firefix is already running.. but it is not responding"
[20:53] <bigrigger> azlon: right click on desktop, change background, choose themes tab
[20:53] <Tm_T> hi kids
[20:53] <gartral> _CommandeR_: dont use compiz with wine
[20:53] <jerbear> what is the kde/kubuntu equivalent of zenity?
[20:53] <gartral> not unless you have like a 1.5 gig gfx card and 4+ gigs of ram
[20:54] <ozgur> hi
[20:54] <azlon> bigrigger: I like the theme, I just don't want the buttons on that side... I am looking in gconf-editor, how can I know what my current theme name is so I can navigate to it?
[20:54] <jhearn1> hey i need a bit of help i installed unbuntu 8.04 and wen i run it it just goes to the the command line bit rather than the log in screen, its not the server version how can i get to login screen?
[20:55] <arturo> now... when i do launch Firefix 3.0.7 from my console... the message is the same
[20:55] <MedianMajik> hi
[20:55] <bpmarkham1>  i have a fresh install of xubuntu on my ps3 and can't install anything. apt-get install keeps getting stuck at "processing triggers for man-db" any ideas anyone? same thing happens for an ubuntu install. I'm also using the ported ps3 iso.
[20:55] <_CommandeR_> gartal: I have problems with Frets On fire also that dont use wine
[20:55] <filip> ARTURI KILL THE FIREFOX PROCESS WITH SYSTEM MONITOR
[20:55] <jhearn1> hey i need a bit of help i installed unbuntu 8.04 and wen i run it it just goes to the the command line bit rather than the log in screen, its not the server version how can i get to login screen?
[20:55] <gartral> _CommandeR_:  (note:;the #winehq MOTD says: Don't use Compiz or KDE composite with Wine)
[20:55] <Flannel> jhearn1: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:56] <bigrigger> azlon: the desktop click should display the current theme, not really sure.
[20:56] <_CommandeR_> gartal: yes , but i have the problem with FretsOnFitre native
[20:56] <arturo> how can i see all running process ???
[20:56] <_CommandeR_> 2fps
[20:56] <soreau> ! patience | jhearn1
[20:56] <NavadeHo> shitroll
[20:56] <bigrigger> arturo: in a terminal, ps aux
[20:56] <jhearn1> k
[20:56] <gartral> _CommandeR_: regardless, its the same issue, both are trying to use the 3d accelerator, and with most hardware, that causes problems
[20:56] <soreau> jhearn1: Try logging in and running 'startx'
[20:56] <jhearn1> lmao calm down
[20:57] <dronix> jhearn1: did u try startx ?
[20:57] <_CommandeR_> gartal: then what should i do ?
[20:57] <jhearn1> yh iv tried that it doesnt work :/
[20:57] <jhearn1> are there anyother solutions?
[20:58] <breiss> hi
[20:58] <bpmarkham1>  i have a fresh install of xubuntu on my ps3 and can't install anything. apt-get install keeps getting stuck at "processing triggers for man-db" any ideas anyone? same thing happens for an ubuntu install. I'm also using the ported ps3 iso.
[20:58] <gartral> _CommandeR_: install compiz fusion and the button, and turn compiz OFF before starting FoF, or go out and buy an MX 440, wich thread the 3d acceleration weird and actually CAN handle both at once
[20:59] <Zeroyez> does anyone know how to let (mysql) root login from any address? mysql channel won't tell me...i remember it's like GRANT ALL something something 'root'@'%'
[20:59] <_CommandeR_> gartal: and the button ? you mean icon yes?
[20:59] <Flannel> !lamp | Zeroyez
[20:59] <Guest20157> i need to link filezilla to use gedit as default editor.. how can i point it to gedit
[20:59] <Flannel> Zeroyez: on that wiki page it walks you through it
[21:00] <zeroxten> hmm, i think i'm suffering from a pebkac problem, but I am trying to install 8.10 alt (for encryption) onto a laptop. Primary partition 1 is 123MB and will be /boot (used to be some recovery partition). Pri 2,3 are NTFS with Vista (bah) etc. 5 is logical with crypto. Problem is it will only allow me to create one partition inside the encrypted volume. Any further free space becomes 'unusable'... any reason why?
[21:00] <gartral> _CommandeR_: yes, the icon, sorry
[21:00] <Kingsy101> man o man, can someone help, i cant find anything on google on how to add eclipse PDT to the repos... anyone have any ideas??
[21:00] <clueneeded> I got your WTF question of the day...  :)
[21:01] <Myrtti> Kingsy101: to the repos?!
[21:01] <_CommandeR_> gartal: i got it, how do i disable it when i launch fof ?
[21:01] <jhearn1> can anyone help me iv tried reinstalling and everything is there any other way i can get onto ubuntu without seeing command line, iv tried startx but it just wont work, when i start 8.10 i just get a black screen with a cursor can anyone help me out please?
[21:01] <Guest20157> i need to link filezilla to use gedit as default editor.. how can i point it to gedit
[21:01] <arturo> wow... i not remember my user password for this IRC server..
[21:01] <Kingsy101> repository
[21:01] <gartral> _CommandeR_: i have a crappy mx440 64 meg card, AGP, on a 4x bus, and i play hl2 in a window with compiz on, keep in mind, my pfs MAX @20 but they MAX @22 with compix off, so
[21:01] <bpmarkham1>  i have a fresh install of xubuntu on my ps3 and can't install anything. apt-get install keeps getting stuck at "processing triggers for man-db" any ideas anyone? same thing happens for an ubuntu install. I'm also using the ported ps3 iso.
[21:02] <clueneeded> Someone done told me to isntall the new alpha version 9... so I started to...  then I now see the screen that warns me "It is absolutely necessary to run liloconfig(8) when you complete this process and execute /sbin/lilo after this."  Well that looks too dangerous for a newbie, so I want to just cancel this altogether.  No cancel button.  How to cancel this upgrade install?
[21:02] <Myrtti> clueneeded: Jaunty?
[21:02] <kantor> hi
[21:02] <clueneeded> i have 8.10
[21:02] <_CommandeR_> gartal: yes but i have an laptop :)
[21:03] <grzesiek> hello everybody :)
[21:03] <Myrtti> clueneeded: which alpha version are you talking about?
[21:03] <clueneeded> i think this was alpha 9.4
[21:03] <zsakr> any tips on how to generate system load so /dev/random starts outputting?
[21:03] <jhearn1> hey i need a bit of help i installed unbuntu 8.04 and wen i run it it just goes to the the command line bit rather than the log in screen, its not the server version how can i get to login screen?
[21:03] <vega_> Hi.  I need to find a way to disable the menu that pops up when you hold alt and right click.  Can someone help me?
[21:03] <gartral> _CommandeR_: ahh, then you just need to use metacity, compiz won't run right with 3d apps unless it has an ungoddly amount of ram to work with in the card/vram
[21:03] <Myrtti> !jaunty | clueneeded
[21:03] <clueneeded> I am in too deep... might as well cancel this upgrade
[21:03] <zsakr> Anyone?
[21:04] <kantor> the apt-get build-dep marks the packets as auto, is there a way to disable that ? I mean to use apt-get build-dep install the dependencies but without the packets being marked as auto ?
[21:04] <_CommandeR_> gartal: I have 2gb of ram would it be enough
[21:04] <clueneeded> just want to know HOW to cancel it
[21:04] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: don't upgrade to 9.04
[21:04] <_CommandeR_> gartal: When i had 8.04 everything wokred
[21:04] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: you can't just cancel an update without cuasing problems
[21:04] <jhearn1> hey i need a bit of help i installed unbuntu 8.04 and wen i run it it just goes to the the command line bit rather than the log in screen, its not the server version how can i get to login screen?
[21:04] <rubberducky> could anyone have a look please: http://pastebin.com/m6a46994f
[21:04] <clueneeded> rats
[21:04] <MedianMajik> I see a lot of thoughts on 'No GUI in Ubuntu" via google
[21:05] <zsakr> Initializing Encryption...
[21:05] <zsakr> No random state found, generating entropy from /dev/random...
[21:05] <clueneeded> ok...
[21:05] <zsakr> On some systems this may take a while, and can be helped by keeping the
[21:05] <zsakr> system busy, such as pounding on the keyboard.
[21:05] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: oh well beta in a week or so
[21:05] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: ,but that could still be a bit buggy
[21:05] <zsakr> Well.. I tried.. didnt help
[21:05] <zsakr> please any suggestions?
[21:06] <jhearn1> hey i need a bit of help i installed unbuntu 8.04 and wen i run it it just goes to the the command line bit rather than the log in screen, its not the server version how can i get to login screen?
[21:06] <ruairidh> jhearn1, try "startx"
[21:06] <zsakr> downloading stuff didn't generate any entropy in /dev/random
[21:06] <jhearn1> iv tried startx
[21:06] <clueneeded> Ok... well my next move would be to just wipe this whole install, all partitions, reinstall 8.10 and start over.  I assume that if I let this finish, then toss in the 8.10 live cd and tell it to install... ok... what can blow up?
[21:07] <zsakr> at least very little
[21:07] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: you can clean install, but you can't download 9.04 to 8.10
[21:07] <clueneeded> oh cool
[21:07] <dronix> jhearn1: was that a clen install or upgrade?
[21:07] <menschentier> can anyone help me reset keyboard settings? I got a new logitech keyboard and the number pad is not working at all
[21:07] <_CommandeR_> gartral ?
[21:07] <Rytis> hello, can anyone help me with skype sounds ?
[21:07] <jhearn1> doesnt do anything "/bin/sh startx not found"
[21:07] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: downgrade I mean you can't do that
[21:07] <clueneeded> can I just kill this upgrade, toss in the live cd and start over?
[21:07] <_VIM_> !away > andyh2|away
[21:07] <azlon> bigrigger: this is how to change the buttons to wherever you want: gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[21:08] <sebsebseb> Rytis: you need to configure Skype for sound in it's own sound settings
[21:08] <dronix> Rytis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[21:08] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: sure,  that will probably screw up that partition, but your going to remove that anyway
[21:08] <clueneeded> heyyy...  just realized...
[21:08] <kane77> how can I delete all but wav files in certain directory?
[21:08] <Rytis> sebsebseb, now looking
[21:08] <clueneeded> i still have xp on the other partition
[21:08] <clueneeded> if grub is still intact
[21:09] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: no you re install and it does Grub again
[21:09] <clueneeded> oh cool
[21:09] <Jachred> is there a Ubuntu equiv of Windows Sidebar?
[21:09] <rubberducky> could anyone have a look please: http://pastebin.com/m6a46994f
[21:09] <sebsebseb> Jachred: there is something
[21:09] <sebsebseb> Jachred: not sure what though
[21:09] <rubberducky> IDENTIFY
[21:09] <[_[__luli__]_]> hola, alguien habla español?
[21:09] <clueneeded> so i am safe if I just toss in the 8.10 live cd?
[21:09] <sebsebseb> Jachred: gdesklets is a start
[21:09] <clueneeded> after reboot and start over?
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Jachred: I think it was gdesklets
[21:10] <dronix> !es | [_[__luli__]_]
[21:10] <bcog> i just upgraded to 8.10 and my fan seems to be going crazy running this thing... anyone know what i can do to make it stop taxing my system so much?
[21:10] <zeroxten> any thoughts on my problem?
[21:10] <Jachred> I will google it thanks:)
[21:10] <clueneeded> how do I interrupt the upgrade process, tell it to quit?
[21:10] <[_[__luli__]_]> gracias bot ^^
[21:11] <sebsebseb> clueneeded: sure if you can
[21:11] <hhr> hi
[21:11] <azlon> how can I get AWN to always be on the bottom?
[21:11] <LakesProse> is CloneZilla appropriate for copy a working ubuntu install to another HDD
[21:11] <LakesProse> ?
[21:11] <bcog> anyone know of an applet i can add to see my cpu temperature?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> LakesProse: probably
[21:11] <azlon> I tried checking the box in the settings but its still always on top
[21:11] <Jachred> seb: Yeah that is it.. Cool deal
[21:11] <zeitsofa> bcog: gkrellm
[21:11] <sebsebseb> bcog: yes right click on the panel.  and you can add one
[21:11] <LakesProse> sebsebseb: all right
[21:11] <bcog> zeitsofa, what is gkrellm?
[21:12] <sixofour> is there a program that can strech and mp3?
[21:12] <bcog> sebsebseb, there are many applets here, which one do i want?
[21:12] <zeitsofa> bcog: systemmonitor to display something
[21:12] <sixofour> .
[21:12] <sebsebseb> bcog: have a look through the list and try things :d
[21:12] <bridger> Does anyone know anything about burning DVDs with Brasero?  I can't seem to get it to burn, the "Burn" button is greyed out when I bring up the dialogue.
[21:12] <sebsebseb> bridger: ok so try another program, for example K3B
[21:12] <L3dPlatedLinux> where is the menu.1st located
[21:13] <bcog> what is the 9.04 distribution?  a new upgrade?  anyone using it?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> !jaunty | bcog
[21:13] <zeitsofa> bcog: u can use lmsensors & conky, also. there are a lot of ways.
[21:13] <bcog> zeitsofa, thanks!!
[21:13] <cactusfrog> i want to ps aux | grep flash player
[21:14] <Rytis> dronix, Message: "Problem with ..." after this problem fixing, I need reboot ?
[21:14] <cactusfrog> but i dont know the code name for adobe flash payer
[21:14] <cactusfrog> what is it
[21:14] <sebsebseb> !flash
[21:14] <cactusfrog> i  have installed flash
[21:14] <iulda> hi all!! Can you help me, please, I am searching a program to make a video, using pictures and the music...
[21:14] <cactusfrog> but for some reason it isn't working
[21:14] <cactusfrog> it was worign earlyer today
[21:14] <dronix> Rytis: ?
[21:14] <cactusfrog> dont know what is wrong i think i have to kill it
[21:14] <Rytis> after fixing, I need rebooting ?
[21:15] <dronix> Rytis: yes
[21:15] <cactusfrog> i want to do this ps aux | grep adobeflashplayer
[21:15] <cactusfrog> but i dont know its name
[21:15] <cactusfrog> what is ti
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[21:15] <Rytis> okei, ill be back ^^
[21:15] <cactusfrog> so anyone know
[21:15] <cactusfrog> why it isn't working
[21:15] <NavadeHo> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Kan het audio-apparaat niet openen voor afspelen.
[21:15] <exodus_ms> is there a way to get gedit to actually 'wrap' text once you reach the 80 margin, instead of manually hitting [enter]? 'Display Right Margin' seems to be for visual only, not an actual barrier, and 'Enable text wrapping etc' doesn't seem to work either
[21:15] <NavadeHo> what to do?
[21:15] <NavadeHo> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Kan het audio-apparaat niet openen voor afspelen.
[21:15] <zeroxten> did anyone see my question?
[21:16] <cactusfrog> i watn to fix flash player because its not plaiyng youtube videos
[21:16] <cactusfrog> how do i kill the prossese
[21:16] <NavadeHo> I get this when I set usb headset to alsa: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Kan het audio-apparaat niet openen voor afspelen.
[21:16] <panfist> i'm using ubuntu netbook remix. i have a "show desktop" key on my keyboard. can do i bind this key to a function of GNOME or something like that, because right now it does nothing
[21:16] <dronix> cactusgrog: uninstall the flas plug in, and reinstall it
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[21:17] <arturo> ./.mozilla/firefox-3.1/x9i90hnv.default/.parentlock  <----------- how can i clean it ??
[21:17] <__mikem> what in the world is going on here?
[21:17] <hitman_beginner> i want to confiqure my mouse with ubuntu
[21:17] <bigrigger> cactusfrog: try ps aux |grep flash
[21:17] <NavadeHo> hello?
[21:17] <NavadeHo> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Kan het audio-apparaat niet openen voor afspelen.
[21:18] <jsjones> how do I make myself root in terminal so I do not have to type sudo?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> iulda: kino
[21:18] <LjL> jsjones: sudo -i
[21:18] <sebsebseb> iulda: there is also Synfig for 2d animation
[21:18] <exodus_ms> su
[21:18] <raven> jrib the memtest passes without errors - that's not the reason for the programm-"crashes"...
[21:18] <LjL> exodus_ms: no.
[21:18] <jrib> !debug | raven
[21:18] <exodus_ms> what?
[21:18] <dronix> jsjones: sudo -s -H
[21:18] <zeitsofa> jsjones: set a root pw with sudo passwd and be root with su :)
[21:19] <LjL> !noroot | zeitsofa
[21:19] <raven> jrib no that's not the topic ;)
[21:19] <jrib> raven: hmm?
[21:19] <jsjones> should I use -s -H or -i
[21:19] <LjL> jsjones: they do slightly different things, check "man sudo".
[21:20] <zeitsofa> LjL: sorry i have to forgot thats #ubuntu :(
[21:20] <raven> i talked about apps which suddenly close without error messages
[21:20] <zeroxten> hmm, can anyone see me? :)
[21:20] <raven> that was the problem
[21:20] <LjL> zeroxten: no
[21:20] <exodus_ms> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:20] <zeroxten> LjL, drats
[21:20] <L3dPlatedLinux> I need to change the usplash screen where or how are they located
[21:20] <exodus_ms> is there a way to get gedit to actually 'wrap' text once you reach the 80 margin, instead of manually hitting [enter]? 'Display Right Margin' seems to be for visual only, not an actual barrier, and 'Enable text wrapping etc' doesn't seem to work either
[21:21] <zeroxten> silly xchat default
[21:21] <dronix> L3dPlatedLinux: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-the-bootsplash-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[21:22] <dronix> L3dPlatedLinux: I however recommend boot managaer
[21:22] <zeroxten> so, i guess the next question is whether anyone saw my question above, or did it get lost in technical issues.
[21:22] <dronix> zeroxten: please repost your question
[21:22] <zeroxten> hmm, i think i'm suffering from a pebkac problem, but I am trying to install 8.10 alt (for encryption) onto a laptop. Primary partition 1 is 123MB and will be /boot (used to be some recovery partition). Pri 2,3 are NTFS with Vista (bah) etc. 5 is logical with crypto. Problem is it will only allow me to create one partition inside the encrypted volume. Any further free space becomes 'unusable'... any reason why?
[21:23] <zeroxten> its as if it can only create primary partitions and that as i've already got three, i've hit a limit
[21:24] <jsjones> if I use wget, does it download source files to /usr/src ?
[21:24] <ganymede>  hello, i was wondering if anyone knew how to check whether network traffic between two computers was going into the internet or whether it was staying in an alternate smaller high speed network? (essentially, i'm noticing that the trasnfer speed between two computers on the Internet2 is slower than on the traffic to and from the internet)
[21:25] <doleyb> ganymede: traceroute
[21:25] <derchiller> jsjones: wget downloads u at the files where u are when using wget but i think u can give wget a parameter, check man wget and the command u may want to know is pwd, which displays u the current directory
[21:25] <derchiller> -at
[21:26] <murat_> chanserv
[21:26] <ganymede> doleyb, thanks, not the only problem reamins to figure out which one of these routers is outside internet2
[21:26] <joaopinto> jsjones, what are you trying to achieve ? you are not expect do place files on /usr/src ...
[21:26] <sixofour> What do i do with .tar.bz2 files?
[21:26] <jsjones> joaopinto: nevermind.
[21:27] <doleyb> sixofour: tar jxvf file.tar.bz2
[21:27] <joaopinto> sixofour, what are you trying to do  ?
[21:27] <Kingsy101> can someone give me the command to install a java VM on ubuntu?
[21:27] <sixofour> install a program, i have a .tzr.bx2
[21:27] <sixofour> tar.bz2*
[21:27] <joaopinto> sixofour, have you checked if the program is available from the repositories first ?
[21:27] <sixofour> its not
[21:27] <joaopinto> what is the program ?
[21:27] <sixofour> rubberband
[21:28] <guntbert> !java | Kingsy101
[21:28] <derchiller> sixofour: .tar.bz2 file extendsion means in that file are more files or/and directories compressed
[21:28] <sixofour> i know what it is, its a source, i jsut don't know the command to instal anymore
[21:28] <satansaunt> hey guys - is there any way for to me get the media keyboard shortcuts (lenovo) to work with vlc?
[21:28] <joaopinto> !source
[21:28] <joaopinto> !compile
[21:28] <sixofour> ?
[21:29] <sixofour> i only need the one command :/
[21:29] <guntbert> sixofour: you don't install source, you unpack it
[21:29] <sixofour> not a docuemnt
[21:29] <sixofour> you unpack it then you do make somethign something :D
[21:29] <joaopinto> sixofour, you need one command now, then another command after, etc etc, you are better informed by reading those instuctions
[21:30] <sixofour> and besides its not available with apt-get [and even if it was, like every other package ive used, it will be vastly out of date]
[21:30] <guntbert> sixofour: after unpacking you will find a file README (or so), read that
[21:30] <sixofour> how do you unpack it?
[21:30] <joaopinto> sixofour, you were already told !
[21:30] <sixofour> :O
[21:31] <dronix> tar
[21:31] <guntbert> sixofour: doleyb told you
[21:31] <Barridus> where's the best place to put a command to mount a network share automagically upon login?  (i've already figured out the syntax and it works, just need a home for it)
[21:31] <joaopinto> Barridus, why using a command and not fstab ?
[21:32] <joaopinto> Barridus, anyway, /etc/rc.local, before the xit
[21:32] <joaopinto> exit
[21:32] <Barridus> cheers, thanks joaopinto
[21:32] <Barridus> and to answer your question why a command and not fstab, that's simply the route i discovered in my search
[21:33] <NavadeHo> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Kan het audio-apparaat niet openen voor afspelen.
[21:33] <M4d3L> hi. I have a problem with the bar on top of each application. sometime it come hidden or have some glitch in it. I have a nvidia gforce GO 7950GTX. anyone have idea on how to fix this?
[21:33] <guntbert> !nl | NavadeHo
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: fstab
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L: are you using compiz?
[21:34] <rayne_> When is the next Ubuntu release?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> rayne_: april 23rd (ish)
[21:34] <sebsebseb> !jaunty | rayne_
[21:35] <rayne_> how is the current test release of it?
[21:35] <sebsebseb> buggy
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> rayne_: ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:35] <Kingsy101> ok I have just ran... sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts what would be the path in this command ---> ./eclipse -vm "path to vm"
[21:35] <Dillizar> what is the minimum cpu for ubuntu?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: about 70Mhz for ubuntu, xubuntu needs a lot less
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> *700
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> !minimum
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> !requirements
[21:37] <NavadeHo> !jp | ubuntu
[21:37] <Dillizar> ActionParsnip, and kubuntu> will ask more or less
[21:37] <guntbert> Kingsy101: why so complicated, just type eclipse (or go to applications/programming)
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: more, kde is heavier
[21:38] <Kingsy101> guntbert - because I need to install eclipse PDT
[21:38] <Dillizar> i thought so
[21:38] <Kingsy101> eclipse PDT isnt in the repositories
[21:38] <M4d3L> ActionParsnip: heu... compiz? I dont know lol. am new on ubuntu
[21:38] <asmips> Hello does anyone know how to install xmms on ubuntu 8.04? i'm having trouble using streamtuner.
[21:38] <bridger> Does anyone know anything about burning DVDs with Brasero?  I can't seem to get it to burn, the "Burn" button is greyed out when I bring up the dialogue.
[21:38] <guntbert> Kingsy101: sorry, what is PDT?
[21:39] <zleap> bridger, are you using the right device
[21:39] <Kingsy101> guntbert - its a php extension
[21:39] <bridger> I'll check, hold on
[21:39] <zleap> k
[21:39] <murat_> hi all
[21:39] <murat_> i am new
[21:39] <murat_> here
[21:39] <bridger> zleap >  all I'm trying to do is write it to an image file
[21:39] <dhysk> hi murat
[21:39] <Dillizar> ActionParsnip, so the interface makes it K,X or just ubuntu
[21:39] <]Prometheus[> hello
[21:39] <derchiller> Kingsy101: download eclipse from the website. ist not debian-way but theres no need to install eclipse, u can just extract and use it
[21:40] <guntbert> Kingsy101: have you seen https://launchpad.net/~yogarine/+archive/ppa/+build/835187 ?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L: cube desktop, wobbly windows
[21:40] <bridger> zleap >  and the drive isn't showing up, probably because it isn't a dvd burner.  I'll be transferring the image file to another comptuer
[21:40] <zleap> ok
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: pretty much
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: if your system is low spec, install xubuntu or install ubuntu then install lxde
[21:40] <jeanP> bad lexmark support
[21:41] <M4d3L> ActionParsnip: where I see what am using?
[21:41] <jeanP> cant print anything with p4300
[21:41] <Kingsy101> guntbert - I already have something like that downloaded but now I need to install it..
[21:41] <Dillizar> ActionParsnip, that is what i am trying to ask :) cuz i have a old laptop and i dont like Xcft or what ever,
[21:41] <zeroxten> hmmm, does the encrypted volume install on the alternate CD require all 4 primary partitions to be unused? Ie. is trying to get this working with two NTFS primary partitions going to be impossible?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Dillizar: try lxde or fluxbox
[21:41] <Kingsy101> maybe I can just use it as is I guess
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L: if you arent sure you are runnig metacity, let me websearch some
[21:42] <Dillizar> ActionParsnip, i want to know if xubntu with gnome will work faster than ubuntu
[21:42] <Kingsy101> make my own shortcuts and stuff
[21:42] <trinidad> i have a question for dell is there just one iso for all of the different models ?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649480
[21:42] <guntbert> Kingsy101: try something like  /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj for the vm (thats the path on my machine)
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L: add the addargb... lines to xorg.conf and you should be ok
[21:43] <murat_> i have acer what should i do for
[21:43] <murat_> wireless connection
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> trinidad: sure, there are some individual releases for certain netbooks though
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> murat_: run: lspci; lsusb   in terminal, one line will identify the wireless adapter
[21:44] <trinidad> what about for desktops?
[21:44] <raven> does anyone know any universal VIDEO CONVERTER which can process the most important and perhaps every video file vlc can convert?
[21:44] <guntbert> Dillizar: I'd say xubuntu *with* gnome is ubuntu :-)
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> trinidad: uses the same iso dude
[21:44] <Flannel> trinidad: Same one for all of them, yep.
[21:44] <zeitsofa> raven: ffmpeg
[21:44] <vocx> Dillizar, xubuntu with gnome is Ubuntu. It's just the graphical stuff, it would hardly affect the core components that compose Linux.
[21:45] <trinidad> Where is the best place to download that iso
[21:45] <Kingsy101> guntbert - naw it says No virtual machine installed
[21:45] <raven> zeitsofa command line or gui?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> trinidad: www.ubuntu.com
[21:45] <zeitsofa> raven: cli
[21:45] <guntbert> !download | trinidad
[21:46] <vocx> trinidad, what iso are you talking about? Does Dell provide a separate iso? You can just install the ones from the ubuntu pages.
[21:46] <Kingsy101> guntbert - damn, would command would you use to install the VM ?
[21:46] <raven> ! cli
[21:47] <dronix> !java | Kingsy101
[21:47] <trinidad> I was reading on dell.com under the linux pages and it mentions a specific iso jsut for dell
[21:47] <raven> how to use/install?
[21:47] <Kingsy101> dronix - yea I have looked at that.. I tried but it doesnt seem to have worked
[21:47] <dronix> Kingsy101: what do u mean? be more specific
[21:47] <furenku> hey, does anybody know where I can find the .emacs config file? it's not in ~/.emacs
[21:47] <jrib> furenku: create it
[21:48] <_VIM_> emacs? :(
[21:48] <Kingsy101> dronix I used the command... ---> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts <--- and it didnt install the VM
[21:48] <guntbert> Kingsy101: I just installed the same java you did (I suppose), installed eclipse from the repos and when I type "eclipse" I get (among other lines) searching for compatible vm...  testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found
[21:48] <vocx> furenku, most configuration files like that you can create yourself, there is nothing special about that.
[21:48] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: why :(
[21:48] <_VIM_> name says it all ;)
[21:48] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: yeah I was thinking that to
[21:49] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: well Emacs is good :d
[21:49] <gidna> Hi
[21:49] <_VIM_> it is, it's community isn't......
[21:49] <Kingsy101> guntbert - eh? damn.. you used sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts that command?
[21:49] <dronix> Kingsy101: http://www.javadesign.info/SystemsHardware/OS/Ubuntu/install-java-on-ubuntu
[21:49] <gidna> How can I remove the download window?
[21:49] <Rods_Tiger> what is a good app in ubuntu for emulating a digital picture frame?
[21:49] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: why not?
[21:49] <Dembroski13> Anyone running 9.04 beta?
[21:49] <trinidad> let me find the page that talks about the dell version of the iso
[21:50] <sebsebseb> gidna: which download window?
[21:50] <murat_> ActionParsnip    Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[21:50] <vocx> guntbert, Kingsy101 if you have multiple java virtual machines you may need to run "update-alternatives java" to select the proper one that most applications will use.
[21:50] <ortsvorsteher> Dembroski13: try in #ubuntu+1
[21:50] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: join #emacs, see how they treat noobs, you'll see why, anyways this isn't the place to discuss this further :)
[21:50] <gidna> that one that popo-up when you've download a file
[21:50] <Kingsy101> dronix - ok I am running the command sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin <---- I take it that is going to install the VM right?
[21:50] <Dembroski13> Thanks bro
[21:51] <dronix> Kingsy101: ys
[21:51] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: ok  join there as well,  I think I am going to have some fun, watch me :d
[21:52] <Flannel> sebsebseb, _VIM_: please don't troll other channels.
[21:52] <rashed2020> A friend of mine wants me to install ubuntu on his PC
[21:52] <_VIM_> Flannel: i had no plans on it
[21:52] <rashed2020> He's half way around the world, any way to do that?
[21:52] <Kingsy101> dronix - I am getting this error... http://pastie.org/417129 <--- when running the command ./eclipse -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[21:52] <sebsebseb> Flannel: lol  I wasn't exactly going to troll
[21:52] <sebsebseb> rashed2020: sue
[21:52] <sebsebseb> rashed2020: sure
[21:52] <dronix> Kingsy101: r u trying to use eclipse?
[21:53] <sebsebseb> rashed2020: altough he has to do the actsaul install, but then he can be remote connected :d
[21:53] <Kingsy101> dronix - no install it
[21:53] <mattfred> how do i disable the beep that comes from things such as new email in evolution or trying to delete on an empty line?
[21:53] <Kingsy101> dronix - someone in #eclipse told me to extract it and run that command
[21:53] <vocx> mattfred, GOOD question...
[21:53] <guntbert> gidna: what browser are you using?
[21:53] <mattfred> can you not do it?
[21:54] <Rods_Tiger> I'm searching for something that can emulate a digital picture frame in linux but can't find anything in google - it only shows things that have to do with dvds
[21:54] <Rytis> how to make your microphone level up ?
[21:54] <vocx> mattfred, dunno, but if you wanna go nuts, open a terminal and do Ctrl+H, that's the system beep character
[21:54] <DoubleChild> http://childilon.myminicity.com/ind
[21:54] <rashed2020> sebsebseb: Link? Or a phrase to search for?
[21:54] <dronix> Kingsy101: java -6
[21:54] <mrwes> mattfred, system | preferences | sound
[21:54] <DoubleChild> http://childilon.myminicity.com/ind
[21:55] <dronix> Kingsy101: sorry meant: java -version
[21:55] <gumbo> need help installing with a vista(dual boot)
[21:55] <dronix> gumbo: first time?
[21:55] <Kingsy101> dronix - 1 sec
[21:55] <vocx> dronix, he really doesn't know what java is so you better be patient trying to help him
[21:55] <DoubleChild> http://childilon.myminicity.com/tra
[21:55] <fluffles> Rytis: are you using Gnome?
[21:55] <tomaw> DoubleChild: please stop spamming those here
[21:55] <Rytis> fluffles, yeah
[21:55] <_Whipper> gumbo: thats a good job for someone...
[21:56] <mattfred> thanks so much i don't know why i didn't just look there originally
[21:56] <kewlioo> Can someone help me get my printer installed on Ubuntu 8.10???????
[21:56] <gumbo> nope first installed kubuntu but was to slow so i uninstalled through vista disk management and messed up my mbr finally fixed it and tryin to install on free space
[21:56] <Kingsy101> dronix - it says java version "1.5.0"
[21:56] <LjL> DoubleChild: do you have anything to ask this channel that is ontopic?
[21:56] <fluffles> Rytis: And you want to increase mic level in Gnome (I just joined, didn't see if you were talking about something else)?
[21:56] <Kingsy101> dronix - but I don't understand I ran that command... ermmm
[21:56] <Rytis> no, I wasnt talking about it before
[21:56] <Rytis> yea, I whant
[21:57] <Rytis> I'm using ubuntu 8.10
[21:57] <kewlioo> Can someone help me get my printer installed on Ubuntu 8.10??????? I have a Lexmark 730 series printer
[21:57] <gumbo> tryin to do manual install because im not sure about the guided use free space option
[21:57] <fluffles> Rytis: right click speaker icon beside clock (upper left-hand corner of screen), and click Volume Control
[21:57] <dronix> Kingsy101: did u follow all the steps from the link I gave u?
[21:57] <mrwes> kewlioo, hrmm..Lexmark are pretty much dead in Ubunut and Linux
[21:57] <Rytis> fluffles, yea, what than ? :)
[21:57] <vocx> kewlioo, I believe there is poor support for Lexmark printers, if there is no suitable driver, then it is impossible. Simply put.
[21:57] <Kingsy101> dronix - give me a sec I will take another look, I thought I did
[21:57] <fluffles> Rytis: Increase 'Mic Boost' sliders
[21:57] <kewlioo> mrwas.... really
[21:58] <lape> I've got problem. Sounds don't play in Firefox, can anybody help me?
[21:58] <eternaljoy> someone told me that over time linux becoimes fragmented and needs to be defraged. Is that true?
[21:58] <gumbo> any help here?
[21:58] <kewlioo> damn........
[21:58] <ortsvorsteher> !language | kewlioo
[21:58] <vocx> gumbo, manual partition, what do you need to know?
[21:58] <_Whipper> What does the CUPS then do? i thought that had something to do with printers..
[21:58] <kewlioo> Sorry
[21:58] <dronix> lape: what r u trying to play? movie, mp3, flash?
[21:58] <eternaljoy> anyone? :)
[21:58] <Rytis> fluffles, into highest ?
[21:58] <lape> flash
[21:59] <eternaljoy> !defrag
[21:59] <fluffles> Rytis: Try at different levels - highest might be too high
[21:59] <sebsebseb> rashed2020: you can help him partition Ubuntu,  and you can help him once it's installed
[21:59] <gumbo> what do i need to do. I heard i need three seperate partitions. one for the boot partition, one for linux and one for swap
[21:59] <sebsebseb> rashed2020: VNC tunneled over SSH,   then it's secure as well
[21:59] <sebsebseb> rashed2020: that needs a little setting up on both ends
[21:59] <dronix> gumbo: r u trying to install ubuntu for the first time?
[21:59] <gumbo> no
[21:59] <kane77> eternaljoy, if your disk is full then it is a bit fragmented
[22:00] <_Whipper> gumbo: i recommend that dont mix vista with linux..
[22:00] <guntbert> !u | dronix
[22:00] <eternaljoy> kane77: then what do I do?
[22:00] <_Whipper> xp and older yes, but not vista..
[22:00] <gumbo> why not?
[22:00] <sebsebseb> rashed2020: ,but it's not difficult
[22:00] <vocx> gumbo, in reality you only need ONE partition. One for Linux. If you want you can create another one for swap. And in the past it was useful to setup one for boot, but it's no longer necessary, specially if you only one to run ONE Linux system.
[22:00] <Kingsy101> dronix - ok I am trying it again...
[22:00] <kane77> eternaljoy, defrag probably :D
[22:00] <dronix> guntbert: :(
[22:00] <eternaljoy> kane77: using what?
[22:01] <gumbo> im ntryin to do dual boot
[22:01] <dronix> Kingsy101: make sure u have the right version loaded
[22:01] <_Whipper> gumbo, :I tried it for "a few" times, and eventually ended up cleaning the HD
[22:01] <dronix> gumbo: have u tried wubi?
[22:01] <gumbo> dont kno what i ll need vista for
[22:01] <dronix> I mean, have *you
[22:01] <eternaljoy> _Whipper: why not? I run Vista and Ubuntu
[22:01] <eternaljoy> kane77: ?? well?
[22:01] <gumbo> yea but read that it make linux slower and the reason im movin away from vista is because how slow it gets
[22:02] <_Whipper> eternaljoy, : for how long now?
[22:02] <Guest50986> hello, I cant play *.wma file on my ubuntu.. it's not playing on totem or vlc , someone can help me please?
[22:02] <eternaljoy> _Whipper: at least 2 years, why?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | Guest50986
[22:02] <_Whipper> eternaljoy, : just asking
[22:02] <lape> Please help me. Any sound in any browser doesn't work.
[22:02] <ortsvorsteher> Guest50986: may you need to install the codecs?
[22:02] <ortsvorsteher> !codecs | Guest50986
[22:02] <Guest50986> ActionParsnip, thank you
[22:02] <piratepenguin> is the only way to get qt 4.5 on ubuntu to upgrade to jaunty? :(
[22:03] <dronix> Gust50986: please register a nick. To play multimedia in ubuntu, u need the w32codecs, or w64codecs if u r runnign 64bit
[22:03] <Guest50986> ortsvorsteher, thanks
[22:03] <gumbo> soooo... vista/linux dual boot not a good idea?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> piratepenguin: compile
[22:03] <eternaljoy> _Whipper: i do it 2 ways.. I have Vista on my C: and ubuntu on my external USB HD and boot straight into Ubuntu or Vista.. And I also have Virtualbox running on Vista and Ubuntu runs inside Virtualbox... Never had a problem. everything works great
[22:03] <eternaljoy> how do I defrag Ubuntu?
[22:03] <dronix> lape: answer this, what are you trying to play? a movie file, mp3, or flash?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: you can multiboot as much space as you have
[22:03] <_Whipper> gumbo: u decide.. i would not mix them, but ..
[22:03] <deany> people actually use totem?  VLC and Smplayer own it
[22:04] <eternaljoy> gumbo: do what I did, put Ubuntu on an external HD and boot into that instead,,, leaves Vista and C: alone
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: ext3 doesnt fragment so theres no real tool
[22:04] <gumbo> man i need vista for games or at least thats all i see it use for
[22:04] <_Whipper> eternaljoy, : i meant in the Same HD,
[22:04] <lape> everything
[22:04] <deany> id use songbird if it had an EQ.. my lappy benefits from one greatly...
[22:04] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: kane77 said that overtime it gets fragmented and fiull and needs to be defraged., true?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: as disk access is fragmented, the data on the disk is fragmented too but tis does not affect performance
[22:04] <piratepenguin> ActionParsnip: I installed the sdk and thats grand but installing PyQt (I need python) seems like another big task
[22:04] <Kingsy101> ok I think its done... update-java-alternatives -l     shows     java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun     &     java-gcj 1042 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: no, it doesnt fragment
[22:04] <eternaljoy> _Whipper: I run ubuntu and Vista on same drive, using Virtualbox :)
[22:04] <Kingsy101> dronix - ^^^^
[22:04] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: never?
[22:05] <dronix> lape: do u have the flash plug in installed?
[22:05] <dronix> Kingsy101: it works now?
[22:05] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: some people told me that it fragments over time
[22:05] <Kingsy101> BUT the ./eclipse command still says the same error
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: only after many many years and even then its hugely minimal
[22:05] <deany> ActionParsnip, ive found it starts up faster even after 6% frag....
[22:05] <dronix> Kingsy101: u don't have eclipse installed?
[22:05] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: so what do I do then?
[22:05] <lape> yes
[22:05] <dronix> lape: and the w32codecs?
[22:05] <deany> from a defrag, of sorts
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> !defrag
[22:05] <_Whipper> eternaljoy, : oulright then :)
[22:05] <kane77> eternaljoy, not overtime.. if the usage is like 99% then of course it fragments, but there's nothing you can do about that
[22:05] <dhysk> :lape does your system sound work outside firefox?
[22:06] <gumbo> alright i ll just take my chances with the same hd
[22:06] <deany> ActionParsnip,  defrag!
[22:06] <lape> sounds outside work
[22:06] <Kingsy101> dronix no, I downloaded pdt-all-in-one-linux-gtk-2.0.0GA.tar.gz extracted it and ran that ./eclipse command in the extracted folder
[22:06] <deany> lol.
[22:06] <safruhani> hi,i use 8.10, after 9.04 release, i'll prefer kubuntu,which one do you recommend: install all kde from repos, or install kubuntu as a new distro?
[22:06] <Kingsy101> dronix - I am trying to install it
[22:06] <eternaljoy> kane77: you told me I need to defrag, but now you tell me not do :P  which is it? lol
[22:06] <gumbo> just guide me through the manual install option
[22:06] <ortsvorsteher> gumbo: read the installation documentation first and also dualboot docs
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: you can switch to ext2 and defrag but its not necessary
[22:06] <ortsvorsteher> !installation | gumbo
[22:06] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: ok
[22:06] <deany> It doesnt fragment nearly as much as ntfs, but after a while it does benefit from one
[22:07] <ortsvorsteher> !dualboot | gumbo
[22:07] <_Whipper> gumbo, : and dont do anything if u are not 95% sure
[22:07] <E3b> I installed the w32codec.. and it's still not playing *.wma
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> deany: ntfs fragments due to bad planning of disk, if you have a sperate partition for page file and %tmp% and %temp% it fragments waaaay less
[22:07] <deany> E3b, mplayer with smplayer frontend.. job done
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> deany: most users have 1 partition which is a BAD coice
[22:07] <Kingsy101> dronix - any ideas?
[22:08] <dronix> Kingsy101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[22:08] <gumbo> im sure i want ubuntu instead of vista. im sure i will only use vista for games and thats why i want it im unsure how to manulayy install tho
[22:08] <deany> ActionParsnip, I was just sayin ext3 isnt without its faults... it does benefit from a defrag
[22:08] <eternaljoy> gumbo: I use Vista to play online games.  the rest I use Ubuntu
[22:08] <dronix> gumbo: just download an iso and burn it, then boot from your cd and install ubuntu
[22:08] <gumbo> exactly!!
[22:08] <deany> ActionParsnip, i know how sloppy ntfs is
[22:08] <eternaljoy> gumbo: and also when using webcam for chats. I need to use Vista as ubuntu doesnt dectect my internal webcam
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> deany: its coupled with bad user choices too
[22:09] <eternaljoy> gumbo: so there is a need for Vista + Ubuntu for some people
[22:09]  * ortsvorsteher dont needs anything from mickeysoft, but its offtopic ;)
[22:10] <ortsvorsteher> *scnr
[22:10] <eternaljoy> isnt there a program where you can install ubuntu on C: Windows but it wont installl grub?
[22:10] <gumbo> yea i did that with ubuntu and vista had a problem  with gpart messin with the hd so i ad to use vista's disk management and kno i have a total of 140 unallocated free space that i want to use linux on
[22:10] <_Whipper> Im no officially out oh the vista/ub converstation..
[22:10] <_Whipper> now
[22:10] <E3b> deany, on mplayer I got that msg: overflow in spectral RLE, ignoring
[22:10] <eternaljoy> _Whipper: you will be missed :-)
[22:10] <safruhani> hi,i use 8.10, after 9.04 release, i'll prefer kubuntu,which one do you recommend: install all kde packages from repos, or install kubuntu as a new distro?
[22:10] <[_[__Luly__]_]> señor bot... por favor me puede mandar de nuevo al canal español de ubuntu?
[22:10] <deany> ActionParsnip, but to say ext3 never needs defraggin is wrong.. well it might not NEED one but my startup has decreased from an apparent 6% non contiguous partiiion.
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: ubuntu doesnt use names like C:
[22:11] <[_[__Luly__]_]> gracias bot (^_^)
[22:11] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: there is a program that allows you to install ubuntu and load in windows.  cant remember the name
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> deany: it will fragment some but te disk access performed is also fragmented so it isnt noticed
[22:11] <dronix> eternaljoy: wubi
[22:11] <deany> ActionParsnip, I know what you are sayin tho..
[22:11] <eternaljoy> dronix: thats it.. any good?
[22:11] <Mike94287> I'm using to use Sound Recorder but once I stop recording it says that minutes have gone by when only a few seconds have. When I try to stop the recording it freezes for a while and then nothing happens.
[22:11] <eternaljoy> deany: are you saying ubuntu needs to be defraged?
[22:11] <dronix> eternaljoy: yes recommended
[22:11] <gumbo> isnt wubi supposed to make it slower
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> deany: its hugely rare to read a whole file in one go with multiple users and multiple applications and services running
[22:12] <eternaljoy> dronix: so if I use wubi, will it alter my MBR at all?
[22:12] <Flannel> eternaljoy: Nope
[22:12] <gumbo> and which is better grub or gag
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: you can use wubi to install ubuntu as an app in windows, its god awful and i dont personally recommend it
[22:12] <bpmarkham> anyone have ubuntu on ps3 in here?
[22:12] <MrDudle> i installed record my desktop but it isn't showing up under my start bar
[22:13] <grub_booter> bpmarkham: yup
[22:13] <deany> ActionParsnip,  ive just noticed aftter a few weeks normal use, my home is 6% non-contiguous, and not affecting the main startup of ubuntu, but only the gnome onwards startup, it does help to defrag..
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> deany: its your system dude
[22:13] <bpmarkham> grub_booter: mind if i PM you?
[22:13] <deany> ActionParsnip, im only talkin like 2 seconds
[22:13] <MrDudle> well not start bar but rather my applications places system bar
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> deany: ive never defragged and systems run fine
[22:14] <grub_booter> bpmarkham: go ahead
[22:14] <trollboy> so one of my computers died (my windows box).  My linux box has an unused onboard video and a dual head DVI video card.  Since I've got an extra monitor, I tried plugging it in to the onboard controller to rock 3 screens but no love.  The new monitor isn't showing up.  Is there a way to probe if the videocard is active?
[22:14] <phorsyon> does anybody know where i can get a scumm-0.13.0 package for jaunty?
[22:14] <deany> ActionParsnip, no, its not my system.. ive noticed an oh so slight increase from makin a new partition and copying it all back ..
[22:14] <gumbo> and which is better grub or gag
[22:15] <gidna> How can I remove the download window?
[22:15] <_Whipper> lilo
[22:15] <_Whipper> !lilo
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: none are better or best, its all personal choice
[22:15] <]Prometheus[> I installed Ubuntu in my Toshiba notebook and put grub in Ubuntu own partition. After I used a freeware software to easily edit Vista boot settings in order to get the boot option for Vista and Ubuntu
[22:15] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: aweful in what way?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: if a boot loader does wat you need to do, its best
[22:15] <Mike94287> Can anyone help me? I'm using to use Sound Recorder but once I stop recording it says that minutes have gone by when only a few seconds have. When I try to stop the recording it freezes for a while and then nothing happens.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: its a half ass job, its installed but not. it still relys on windows and i just dont agree with it
[22:16] <gumbo> yea well i was using grub and it messed up my mbr when i uninstalled kubuntu
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: try a few, see which you like
[22:16] <gumbo> does gag do this
[22:16] <ed0n0n> How can I set up a network for copying files between pc's in a LAN, and not using Samba?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: you just need to install the boot sector or whatever system you use (e.g NTLDR) if you uninstall it
[22:17] <Jachred> Anyone have Zussaweb setup? I cant navigate to the main server page, firefox treats index.php as a file to download instead of a webpage....
[22:17] <ortsvorsteher> ed0n0n: you can use scp
[22:17] <_Whipper> Mike94287, : use something else then, and see if it does the same
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: thats got nothing to do with ubuntu or grub being "bad", if you remove the files needed for grub to work then it wont work
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: thats like having a pure windows system and deleting boot.ini
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: its not the bootloader, its your actions as a user
[22:18] <ortsvorsteher> !scp | ed0n0n
[22:18] <ed0n0n> ortsvorsteher: I can use ssh but I need the people to drag & drop files
[22:18] <Teusuqinsan> love you ubuntu :D
[22:18] <gumbo> and where is this folder or file placed in
[22:18] <ortsvorsteher> ed0n0n: is it a heterogenous network?
[22:18] <Flannel> ed0n0n: ssh -> sftp, you can use Filezilla (on windows, or Ubuntu) to perform the sftp stuffs.
[22:18] <ksezzk> hello i'm new in useing ubuntu
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: /boot
[22:19] <ksezzk> Iinstalled it today
[22:19] <ed0n0n> ortsvorsteher: diferent distros but no windows or mac
[22:19] <gumbo> k thnx will definatly burn that into my brain
[22:19] <gumbo> anyways is someone gonna help me manual install or what
[22:19] <ksezzk> and i've a problem with my nvidia geforce2 mx 400 graphic chip
[22:19] <ortsvorsteher> ed0n0n: so try what Flannel says.... :)
[22:19] <ed0n0n> Flannel: Do I use regular ssh parameters to use sftp?
[22:19] <Mike94287> _Whipper: I'd rather resolve the problem than avoid it.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> gumbo: if you make a 20Mb /boot partition then it doesnt matter if you delete ubuntu as the grub loader will still work
[22:20] <Flannel> ed0n0n: If you install openssh-server, you have a server capable of sftp.
[22:20] <ortsvorsteher> gumbo: read the docs for howto installing ubuntu and dualboot. you will figure it out, how easy it will be
[22:20] <ortsvorsteher> !install | gumbo
[22:20] <Ariadnax> hello all
[22:20] <ortsvorsteher> !dualboot | gumbo
[22:20] <]Prometheus[> also don't forget to do a separate partition for /home
[22:20] <Ariadnax> anyone uses Kontact?
[22:20] <hammolation> hi, have a strange problem, i can 'host windowsmachine.localdomain' and get the ip, but then when i try and ping windowsmachine.localdomain i get: ping: unknown host windowsmachine.localdomain
[22:21] <ed0n0n> Flannel: So I intall openssh-server package in all the machines and am I done?
[22:21] <DPic> can somebody help me figure out why i have some flac files that play in vlc but not anything that uses gstreamer (totem, rhythmbox, etc)?
[22:21] <ortsvorsteher> !who | ]Prometheus[
[22:21] <Roasted> .
[22:21] <Flannel> ed0n0n: Erm.  You need to be able to push and pull from all of the machines?
[22:21] <Roasted> anybody running FOG on Ubuntu?
[22:21] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | Ariadnax
[22:21] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | Roasted
[22:21] <vocx> ed0n0n, the server serves the content, the clients only pull from it.
[22:22] <ksezzk> \exit
[22:22] <gumbo> damn, alrite tried reading it before and didnt understand but ill try again
[22:22] <ortsvorsteher> !language | gumbo
[22:22] <gumbo> what!
[22:22] <ed0n0n> Flannel: The idea is to read from one of them most of the times. So I connect to it from the rest
[22:22] <gumbo> thats a curse word LLO
[22:22] <gumbo> LOL*
[22:22] <Roasted> gumbo - welcome to the nazi IRC channel... known as "Ubuntu"
[22:22] <TruthTaco1> how do i make it so my hard drives automatically mount when turn on ubuntu
[22:23] <LjL> !offtopic | Roasted, gumbo
[22:23] <Flannel> ed0n0n: Right, then you just need openssh-server on the server.  And then the others use a sftp client (such as filezilla).
[22:23] <Roasted> It takes so little to get banned and so little to get in trouble. Act like you're in kindergarten here and you'll be all right.
[22:23] <Ariadnax> ubottu, ok. thanks for the pointer
[22:23] <ortsvorsteher> gumbo: just download ubuntu, burn an iso image, insert it and boot from it.
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> TruthTaco1,  put a proper entry for them in the fstab file
[22:23] <vocx> !fstab | TruthTaco1
[22:23] <TruthTaco1> wheres the Fstab file
[22:23] <Ariadnax> my kintact calendar does noet save any new events or to-dos
[22:23] <gumbo> yea tried that already
[22:23] <TruthTaco1> ah thanks
[22:23] <Zzeiss> Which ID3 tag editor would people recommend these days?
[22:24] <geekening> only one i ever use is mp3tag for windows
[22:24] <Roasted> I say ONE thing and it's considered off topic? LOL??
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> !info id3tag
[22:24] <M4d3L> what is the difference between QT and Compiz?
[22:24] <Zzeiss> (I have a bunch of albums, and for some funkyh reason, the people who put them into FreeDB never spelled the artists the same way twice.)
[22:24] <ed0n0n> Flannel: Good, I have the basic plan. SSH in the server and so I just got to connect to the server from the other machines, but how can I control the access to the server so there are just certain folders accesible?
[22:24] <Flannel> ed0n0n: Normal permissions
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> geekening: id3ed
[22:25] <vocx> Roasted, no need to be thin skinned, just forget about it and move on
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> !info id3ed
[22:25] <ed0n0n> Flannel: Are Normal permissions all folders, or /home/user/ folder?
[22:25] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: their website says: You keep Windows as it is, Wubi only adds an extra option to boot into Ubuntu.Wubi does not require you to modify the partitions of your PC, or to use a different bootloader, and does not install special drivers. It works just like any other application,,,,, so you dont agree with that?
[22:25] <Roasted> vocx - It's not about being thin skinned. I just find it laughable that I sincerely DO have to act like I'm in kindergarten to "play by the rules." But whatever, I'll just keep on topic with Ubuntu... that being said, anybody here run FOG?
[22:26] <Roasted> I feel like I'm the only one who's even heard of FOG...
[22:26] <eternaljoy> vocx: hehe
[22:26] <bpmarkham> hey everyone... while trying to install specific packages or run the update manager on a fresh install of ubuntu or xubuntu the install freezes at "processing triggers for man-db." Any ideas how i can fix or get around this?
[22:26] <Flannel> ed0n0n: Yeah, all folders.  Treat it as if they have a ssh login, whatever permissions they have when logged in.
[22:26] <eternaljoy> Roasted: whats FOG? :)
[22:26] <Daxie> What is FOG?
[22:26] <vocx> Roasted, you should probably provide more info with your questions. Anybody FOG? is not a good question.
[22:26] <eternaljoy> !FOG
[22:26] <Roasted> eternaljoy - Take Norton Ghost... but open source/free.
[22:26] <ed0n0n> port number for SSH? 22?
[22:26] <SlimeyPete> 22.
[22:26] <LjL> !fishing | eternaljoy
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: you install to an imagefile on your windows partition, you can uninstall from add/remove
[22:26] <eternaljoy> even ubottu doersnt know what FOG is :)
[22:27] <eternaljoy> ljL ok
[22:27] <Roasted> FOG is open source and based on either Fedora or Ubuntu... Ubuntu seems to be favored so I was hoping to find some users who use it.
[22:27] <eternaljoy> Roasted: does it do a boot CD?
[22:27] <howl> anyone else having trouble with firefox 3.0.7 and hulu in ubuntu?
[22:27] <DPic> i have some flac files that play in vlc but not anything that uses gstreamer (totem, rhythmbox, etc)
[22:28] <Roasted> eternaljoy - It works off of a server... I have 3 computers from work here with me. One has 8.10 running with FOG installed, the other two are XP Pro. Using FOG, I can image these computers via network boot over a localized LAN (no external access) on a 4 port 10/100 switch.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> howl: hulu
[22:28] <Roasted> it runs great, I love it, I just ran into a very minor snag I can't seem to iron out...
[22:28] <eternaljoy> Roasted: so it cant be booted from a CD?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> howl: whats hulu?
[22:28] <Roasted> eternaljoy - no, it's a tar.gz package you install within Ubuntu... it's recommended that you don't do anything else with it EXCEPT run it as a server.
[22:28] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: i wondered the same :P
[22:28] <eternaljoy> Roasted: ok
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> !info hulu
[22:29] <trollboy> ActionParsnip, american free tv streaming site
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> !find hulu
[22:29] <Roasted> eternaljoy - it's not like Clonezilla Live where you need a LiveCD for it. I've been down the CLonezilla path already. ;)
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> hulu.com :)
[22:29] <Z3ro3X> I just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my brothers Acer Aspire 5520 which supposedly has an Atheros wireless chipset.  The problem is it isn't working.
[22:29] <howl> ActionParsnip: hulu is a video site
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> oic
[22:29] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: man you are good at finding what yu want :)
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> hulu.com :)
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> yep - wife likes that site.
[22:29] <eternaljoy> Roasted: does Clonezilla boot from CD?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: good websearch skills (tip: dont ONLY use google)
[22:29] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: hehe
[22:30] <Z3ro3X> The network icon at the top right should give me a list of AP to connect to but it's not recognizing the wifi as far as I can tell.
[22:30] <gumbo> so do i need a firewall of some sort for ubuntu  if yes which one
[22:30] <bpmarkham> hey everyone... while trying to install specific packages or run the update manager on a fresh install of ubuntu or xubuntu the install freezes at "processing triggers for man-db." Any ideas how i can fix or get around this?
[22:30] <oerter> Where in ubuntu does it tell you the amount of RAM you have?
[22:30] <Roasted> eternaljoy - Clonezilla has two versions... LiveCD for single computers and Server for imaging many computers at once, like computer labs or something. However, Clonezilla Server isn't as user friendly as FOG and I haven't even gotten it to work after 6 weeks of research, while FOG I got working in 3 hours.
[22:30] <dronix> z3ro3x: connect manually
[22:30] <LjL> oerter: try "free"
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> eternaljoy: seriously, its really immature to only use google
[22:30] <Z3ro3X> dronix, I tried, didn't work.
[22:30] <LjL> !firewall | gumbo
[22:30] <vocx> gumbo, you don't need a firewall in general, only if you are paranoid.
[22:31] <howl> With the last update of firefox I'm not able to watch videos
[22:31] <eternaljoy> Roasted: does the LiveCD Clonezilla make images of FAT32, NTFS and EXT3 paritions?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox
[22:31] <howl> I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem
[22:31] <Mike94287> oerter: System -> System Monitor
[22:31] <eternaljoy> ActionParsnip: yeah i  hear ya
[22:31] <gumbo> yea i am because ubuntu is open source and a smart hacker would take advantage and find the holes in it
[22:31] <dronix> z3ro3x: did u install the drivers for your card?
[22:31] <gumbo> dont undermind the hackin community
[22:31] <eternaljoy> howl:  not me
[22:31] <Roasted> eternaljoy - to my knowledge, yes.
[22:31] <gerall> is it *really* possible to set a NIC to use a static IP using NetworkManager?
[22:31] <Mike94287> oerter: Oh sorry, System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[22:31] <eternaljoy> Roasted: where can I get it pleasse?
[22:32] <Z3ro3X> dronix, The proprietary hardware thingy that poped up when I installed said it has the atheros driver installed yet the network manager at the top isn't showing it.
[22:32] <Roasted> http://clonezilla.org/
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> gerall: ive always used /etc/network/interfaces file
[22:32] <vocx> gumbo, that doesn't make sense. What holes? You don't even know what you are talking about. You are paranoid simply put
[22:32] <Roasted> eternaljoy - are you looking to just back up a single computer?
[22:32] <jean99> bsoir tt le monde
[22:32] <ruairidh> jean99, anglais stp
[22:32] <jean99> kk1 qui parle francais ici
[22:33] <gumbo> damn are you serious
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[22:33] <jean99> merci
[22:33] <Z3ro3X> dronix, On the bottom of the notebook it says it has the atheros ar5bxb63 chipset.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> ce rien
[22:33] <eternaljoy> Roasted: yes
[22:33] <gumbo> woops sorry for language
[22:33] <gumbo> lol
[22:33] <gerall> ActionParsnip - understood, but I was trying to assess the need for mods to NM Applet...
[22:33] <loose> ciaooooooooooooooooooooooo
[22:33] <gumbo> but seriously dont under estimate the hackin community
[22:33] <Roasted> eternaljoy - I do advise you to run it on a test computer a few times just to get used to it. It's a TUI and has a lot of questions, though most of the questions you can leave default...
[22:34] <gerall> no matter what settings I change, Intrepid wakes up with DHCP
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> gerall: i believe it can be used to set static ip
[22:34] <eternaljoy> Roasted: TUI?
[22:34] <M4d3L> how I config compiz or qtcurve?
[22:34] <ed0n0n> I have sshd running in local IP. I try to connect via FTPS to it on port 22 and it Ask`s for the root password of that machine, do I need to login as root?
[22:34] <howl> okay, its a problem with the flashblock plugin
[22:34] <gumbo> jus because you cant find holes in ubuntu doesnt mean anyone else can
[22:34] <vocx> gumbo, please define "hacker" and realize this is offtopic, so you will probably be banned
[22:34] <_Whipper> gumbo, : Everything is crackable
[22:35] <Roasted> eternaljoy - Text User Interface. IT doesn't have a pretty little GUI or anything.
[22:35]  * Dr_Willis cracks a smile.
[22:35] <a2103tk> I cracked a cracker once, it tasted good
[22:35] <Z3ro3X> dronix, I'm running ubuntu on this computer I'm chatting from.  If I click on networkmanager on the top right I get "Wireless Networks" with a list of APs to connect to.  On the notebook I only get "Wired Network".
[22:35] <gumbo> how is this off topic im askin for help to try to secure ubuntu the most i can
[22:35] <eternaljoy> Roasted: ah ok
[22:35] <Myrtti> please keep the chatting someplace else and keep this for support questions ONLY, kthx
[22:35] <reginaldo> oi
[22:35] <gumbo> whipper: yes i know thats why im askin for a good firewall for linux/ubnuntu
[22:35] <Roasted> eternaljoy - sourceforge has a forum for it in case you run into snags - good luck, I'm out.
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Z3ro3X: they you will need to driver up your wireless adapter
[22:36] <Myrtti> gumbo: iptables
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> gumbo,  dont run serviceses you dont need. and check out the various 'hardening linux' guides I guess.  it all depends on what you are doing with the thing.
[22:36] <Z3ro3X> ActionParsnip, What?
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> unplug pc from internet.. there ya go :)
[22:36] <_Whipper> gumbo, : just put a few firewalls, and a couple of NATs, and ull be safe and sound
[22:36] <ed0n0n> If I add ask for password and put a login name for FTPS it asks for the password but doesnt work. Connection established, initializing TLS... Error: Cant connect to server. What Im I doing worng?
[22:36] <lore_> I messed up my grub and now can't boot. I have vista and ubuntu. I tried following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but I get a grub Error 2. help please!!
[22:36] <gumbo> well i do torrent
[22:36] <bpmarkham> hey everyone... while trying to install specific packages or run the update manager on a fresh install of ubuntu or xubuntu the install freezes at "processing triggers for man-db." Any ideas how i can fix or get around this?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Z3ro3X: if you dont see a wifi option then your wifi will need drivers
[22:37] <_Whipper> gumbo, : not related ubuntu
[22:37] <dronix> z3ro3x: lspci
[22:37] <lbt> where do I go to chat about jaunty?
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> since torrent clients run as a user.. they shouldent be much of a security issue i imagine
[22:37] <gumbo> any anti virus recommended
[22:37] <LjL> gumbo, look, whether you want to set up a firewall is up to you. i've given you pointers to them.
[22:38] <LjL> !virus > gumbo    (gumbo, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:38] <lore_> I messed up my grub and now can't boot. I have vista and ubuntu. I tried following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but I get a grub Error 2. help please!!
[22:38] <vocx> lore_, use a live CD, mount your ubuntu partition and then use "grub-install" to reinstall the bootloader
[22:38] <lbt> a clean install of jaunty gives the old perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). error : http://pastebin.com/d3c65eb36
[22:39] <vocx> lbt, go to #ubuntu+1
[22:39] <lbt> ta
[22:39] <dirty> How can I change the name of my ident?
[22:39] <lore_> vocx: Could you be a bit more specific? where do I have to install grub?
[22:39] <dirty> with pidentd installed
[22:39] <dronix> dirty: use this command: /nick newnick
[22:39] <Z3ro3X> dronix, If I click on Sytem -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers is shows "Support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards." as highlighted green.
[22:40] <maodun> can any regex wizards here help me? i'm trying to get sed to strip out all the nonprintable chars in a file, but i can't seem to get sed to recognize hex-represented characters within a group. e.g., sed -i 's/\xf0//g' works but sed -i 's/[\xf0]+//g' doesn't.
[22:40] <dronix> z3ro3x: activate it
[22:40] <]Prometheus[> gumbo, AV is only recomended in case you'll transfer files to Windows boxes... if don't no need
[22:40] <dirty> dronix, /nick is going to work in the terminal?
[22:40] <vocx> lore_, the "grub-install" manual page has some info.    It is something like "grub-install (hd0) --root-directory=/mountpoint/of/the/installed/ubuntu"
[22:40] <Z3ro3X> dronix, It is.
[22:40] <dirty> dronix, I want to change the name of my ident. Not my nick
[22:40] <issa> Hi, I need to install catdoc on a my hosting server to which i have ssh access but no privilege to use apt-get. Is it still possible to do a manual installation of catdoc and save it under my files and just call the command by path? I want to use it to read doc files from PHP system() .. please help
[22:40] <Z3ro3X> dronix, It only gives me the option to deactivate it.
[22:41] <vocx> lore_, that will install the bootloader to the Master Boot Record of the first hard drive (hd0) then it will setup the /boot/grub directory to the root directory
[22:42] <dirty> How do I change the name of my ident with pidentd installed?
[22:42] <lore_> vocx: What about the running grub part?
[22:42] <vocx> lore_, what?
[22:43] <dirty> how do I run a program through terminal without in running IN terminal?
[22:43] <lore_> vocx: in the various helps on the official ubuntu site it mentions opening grub doing root and setup
[22:43] <ed0n0n> I was trying to scp a file to another machine both running sshd, but I get ssh: connection to host 1.1.1.1 port 22: Connection refused. How can I solve this?
[22:43] <dirty> how do I run a program through terminal without it running IN terminal?
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> dirty,  command &, then use exit command if you want to close it
[22:43] <Z3ro3X> dronix, When I typed lspci I got this. "05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR24x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)"
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> dirty,  if thats what you are wanting.. your Q. is a little vague
[22:43] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok was wondering how to clean up my ubuntu with uneeded left overs WITHOUT breaking it?
[22:43] <UBUNTUJAY123> whats the best File Manager for Gnome
[22:43] <Flare183> L3dPlatedLinux: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:44] <vocx> lore_, those steps are more low level, while "grub-install" is more like higher level, it should be recommended more.
[22:44] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: u can try to run nmap 1.1.1.1 -p 22 it show u port is open or not.
[22:44] <Flare183> UBUNTUJAY123: Nautilus
[22:44] <Z3ro3X> dronix, The rest see of the output for other devices is mostly all nvidia based.
[22:44] <dronix> z3ro3x: u can't pick up any wireless network?
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> UBUNTUJAY123,  whatver one you like,
[22:44] <UBUNTUJAY123> is Thunar any good
[22:44] <L3dPlatedLinux> cool Thats it
[22:44] <jatt> hi I'm using Extra Visual Effects (Ubuntu hardy). When I take an screenshot of a window the screenshot doesn't contain the window's borders. Without Visual Effects the borders are shown why?
[22:45] <zash> UBUNTUJAY123: i like it
[22:45] <Flare183> UBUNTUJAY123: Thunar is made for xfce, but yeah it is
[22:45] <WalkTheLine> where can i go to install ipcop? i tried downloading it but can't get it to run via the terminal. is there a way by downloading a package?
[22:45] <UBUNTUJAY123> ok i want to try it how i install it
[22:45] <zash> however, thunar lacks gvfs integration
[22:45] <Flare183> jatt: Because your window decorator is not enabled or not working
[22:45] <hhr> hi iam into graphics and have been using xp for along time and i custimized it to look very great and considering to move to ubuntu but after custimizing it, it doesn't look that good. So anybody has a cool looking gui that can share a screenshot with me?
[22:45] <Z3ro3X> On this system I get "Wired Network" and "Wireless Networks" in network manager.  On the notebook it only gives me the option of "WIred Network".
[22:45] <Flare183> UBUNTUJAY123: sudo apt-get install thunar
[22:45] <Z3ro3X> dronix, On this system I get "Wired Network" and "Wireless Networks" in network manager.  On the notebook it only gives me the option of "WIred Network".
[22:46] <jatt> Flare183: the windows appear with borders in the desktop is only in the screnshot were the borders dissapear.
[22:46] <Flare183> Z3ro3X: You got a wireless card driver problem
[22:46] <hhr> you may use picpaste or other sites
[22:46] <petergent> hi guys
[22:46] <lore_> vocx: Ok I did it... it says: This is the contents of the device map /media/disk/boot/grub/device.map.
[22:46] <lore_> Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
[22:46] <lore_> fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
[22:46] <lore_> (hd0)	/dev/sda
[22:46] <petergent> I'm having more installation problems - perhaps someone can help ?
[22:46] <FloodBot3> lore_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <Z3ro3X> Flare183, Is there a deb file I can download to reinstall the driver?
[22:46] <Flare183> jatt: Its supposed to do that, its because you are press the alt button when you press the print screen button
[22:46] <UBUNTUJAY123> after i install it i for a stie with a script to change the file manager
[22:46] <ed0n0n> zeitsofa: thank you. 22/tcp closed. How do I open it?
[22:46] <UBUNTUJAY123> do i just download that script
[22:46] <Flare183> Z3ro3X: Maybe, can you pastebin me the output the of the command "lspci"?
[22:46] <doleyb> Z3ro3X: what I did is disable the ubuntu-provided driver and install madwifi separately...
[22:46] <vocx> lore_, seems correct
[22:47] <petergent> I've installed ubuntu and ubon trying to boot I've just a repeating set of rejecting Io to offline device errors
[22:47] <petergent> amongst other things
[22:47] <lore_> vocx: Ok thanks.. I try to reboot fingers crossded
[22:47] <Z3ro3X> Flare183, Just a sec.
[22:47] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: check if the sshd on 1.1.1.1 is realy running - it is check the firewall (router firewall?)
[22:47] <jatt> Actually I am using the take screenshot application (not alt+printscr)
[22:48] <doleyb> Z3ro3X, Flare183: this bug could be it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/182489
[22:48] <dirty> How do I change my ident from kuipers to something eles? please whois me to understand!
[22:48] <Flare183> dirty: Ask that question in #freenode
[22:48] <Bigshot_> i installed Kdevelop in Gnome, but i can't see the Konsole therefore i downloaded Konsole but still i can't see the embedded konsole!!
[22:48] <ed0n0n> zeitsofa: I have been using ssh in between other machines trough console, and this new machine has Lenny, so it has to have some kind of soft.firewall
[22:48] <_Whipper> dirty, : old trick
[22:48] <vocx> dirty, I'm sorry that no one is able to understand you. Please don't despair. Perhaps you could browse the web while you wait.
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> !mask
[22:49] <hhr> anybody is going to share a screenshot with me?
[22:49] <abcdefhijkl> Hello.  I'm trying to create a video via cinelerra.  I'm rendering mpg videos into a final result mov (via cinelerra).  However, the video has no sound.  What should the sound format be?
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> dirty,  if you want security - get a 'cloak'
[22:49] <UBUNTUJAY123> than you all alot
[22:49] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: lenny didn't block ssh out of the box. there is no firewall as default in lenny.
[22:49] <untitled> hi. enyone had this problem, that skype won't login if started as user? works fine with sudo
[22:49] <dirty> Dr_Willis: please, give me a link or something that will explain this to me
[22:49] <zeitsofa> dirty: to change our ident tell me your irc client :)
[22:50] <untitled> skype says that multiply copys might be started and won't login
[22:50] <dirty> zeitsofa: xchat!
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> dirty,  a link was given just above
[22:50] <ed0n0n> zeitsofa: does it really have to be from firewall?
[22:50] <dreamy> is there any nice application to draw a web page ?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> !mask | dirty
[22:50] <gumbo> can i get widgets like kubuntu in ubuntu
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> gumbo,  gdesklets, or opera, or google gadgets can do that..
[22:51] <LjL> Dr_Willis: actually his ident has nothing to do with hostmask cloaks...
[22:51] <gumbo> thnx
[22:51] <LjL> dirty: depends on the client you're using
[22:51] <dirty> Dr_Willis: I need it changed for a completely different server
[22:51] <dirty> LjL: it's for xchat
[22:51] <issa> Hi, is it possible to use an installed (already-compiled) files of catdoc and copy it to another machine and just use path to the command line file to have it work?
[22:51] <zeitsofa> dirty: press <strg>s and take your choise :)
[22:51] <hhr> nobody has a cool gui?
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> dirty,  then you need to checkon that server. and the docs for your identd service..  thers plenty of identd servers out.. but they dont make things any  more secure
[22:52] <petergent> can anyone help me with an I/o error I'm having on boot ?
[22:52] <_Whipper> hhr, :nope
[22:52] <dirty> Dr_Willis: I have pidentd installed
[22:52] <bpmarkham> hey everyone... while trying to install specific packages or run the update manager on a fresh install of ubuntu or xubuntu the install freezes at "processing triggers for man-db." Any ideas how i can fix or get around this?
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> dirty,  then read the docs for it?
[22:52] <||drake||> any ideas on where to go for questions about screen resolutions?
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> identd servers are not that complex. thers some that just spit out random ident responses also
[22:53] <LjL> dirty: *my* xchat gives me a window where i can select nick, ident and realname as soon as i start it up
[22:53] <vocx> lore_, wassup?
[22:53] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: i habe lenny to und there is no firewall as default. i think an 1.1.1.1 can be two things. first ssh are not runnning (ps -fs | grep may help) or there is a firewall that block the connect.
[22:53] <lore_> vocx: No luck >*
[22:53] <LjL> dirty: err if you have an identd installed, then perhaps you *want* your ident to be consistent...? or you wouldn't have it installed...?
[22:53] <imichel> hello
[22:53] <Z3ro3X> Flare183, http://pastebin.com/d490048be
[22:54] <imichel> No this dazen function
[22:54] <dirty> LjL: maybe shall I uninstall pidentd my ident server? I didn't know xchat could handle my ident
[22:54] <lore_> vocx: I still get Error 2 at stage 1.5 >*
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> ive not seen a need to use a identd server in years..
[22:54] <LjL> dirty: it will provide an ident to IRC, but it won't be validated if there is no identd server.
[22:54] <ed0n0n> I nmap the 22 port and it is closed, and 80 is opened. The firewall in the router is on, and 80 nor 22 triggered
[22:54] <Z3ro3X> doleyb, Do you have some quick instructions for installing madwifi separately?
[22:54] <LjL> Dr_Willis: not on single-users systems for sure
[22:54] <vocx> Paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:55] <ed0n0n> I have used ssh for other machines before and it was working. Dont know why no it is not
[22:55] <zeitsofa> dirty: there a two ways. first to change the setting on <strg>s windows or go to the server you would connect in the list below. there u can change it, too.
[22:55] <dirty> LjL: ok, I have changed every field possible and it still just keeps reporting my ident as my username
[22:55] <bpmarkham> hey everyone... while trying to install specific packages or run the update manager on a fresh install of ubuntu or xubuntu the install freezes at "processing triggers for man-db." Any ideas how i can fix or get around this?
[22:55] <DBeta> Hello everybody.
[22:55] <LjL> dirty: as soon as you keep pidentd running - of course it will.
[22:55] <LjL> as long
[22:55] <lore_> Can someone help me reinstall only grub from scratch on a dual/boot machine_
[22:55] <vocx> bpmarkham, what version of Ubuntu?
[22:55] <]Prometheus[> gumbo: what version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[22:55] <Flare183> Z3ro3X: I see. I know exactly what to do.
[22:55] <bpmarkham> vocx: intrepid
[22:56] <Bigshot_> LjL, i can't see embedded konsole in kdevelop on gnome!
[22:56] <sebsebseb> !grub | lore
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> dirty,  the 'realname' field i though changed that...
[22:56] <Flare183> Z3ro3X: Can PM/query you?
[22:56] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: sorry but these are the 2 options. firewall is blocking or ssh not running.
[22:56] <Z3ro3X> Flare183, Sure.
[22:56] <dirty> Dr_Willis: It doesn't seem to be changing it for me.
[22:56] <lore_> sebsebseb: I already tried those :(
[22:56] <ed0n0n> Even triggering port 22 in the firewall I get closed when nmpapping IP -p 22
[22:57] <issa> Hi, is it possible to use an installed (already-compiled) files of catdoc and copy it to another machine and just use path to the command line file to have it work?
[22:57] <DBeta> I have a problem that may require a creative solution. I would like to be able to full screen flash in one window, while working in the other(dual screen setup). The problem comes in with flash going out of full screen when it loses focus.
[22:57] <doleyb> Z3ro3X: 1. go to hardware drivers and disable Atheros item.  2. acquire madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz from madwifi.org, 3. extract it, ./configure, make, sudo make install, 4. sudo modprobe ath_pci wlan_scan_sta
[22:57] <sebsebseb> lore_: you could make a seperate /boot  or  do a small  ubuntu partition get rid of everything, but boot
[22:57] <sebsebseb> lore_: then you got grub in there
[22:57] <DBeta> So does anyone know a way to focus on two windows at once, or not let a window know it goes out of focus.
[22:57] <swamptin> hey hey all
[22:57] <infomomo> swamptin: sometin sometin swamptin :d
[22:57] <ed0n0n> zeitsofa: ssh is running PID 5063 /usr/sbin/sshd
[22:57] <sebsebseb> lore_: ,but then kernel updating and it can upgrade wrong grub menulist etc
[22:58] <lore_> sebsebseb: How to do that?
[22:58] <jrib> DBeta: I can think of a creative solution: write your own window manager :)
[22:58] <untitled> enyone had this problem, that skype won't login if started as user? works fine with sudo
[22:58] <untitled> skype says that multiply copys might be started and won't login
[22:58] <Dr_Willis64> Hmm
[22:58] <DBeta> jrib:Too creative for me.
[22:58] <doleyb> DBeta: I might try running separate xservers.  One of them default, one -- :1
[22:58] <WebGuest1> How hard would it be to, instead of having /home/username/, I could have /home/symbolic-Link-Called-Username/
[22:58] <lore_> sebsebseb: I-de just like to get back to my original.. I backed up my menu/lst
[22:58] <Dr_Willis64> oh wait realname is not same as the front of the user ;) lol
[22:58] <sebsebseb> lore_: well just edit the current menu.list and problem solved?
[22:58] <Bigshot_> Dr_Willis64, i can't see embedded konsole in Kdevelop
[22:58] <DBeta> doleyb: I tried that, I had issues with the differences in resolution.
[22:58] <Bigshot_> Dr_Willis64, i can't see embedded konsole in Kdevelop in "GNOME"
[22:58] <dirty> can someone please explain to me how I can change the name of my ident without using a cloak?
[22:59] <_Whipper> offtopic?..
[22:59] <lore_> sebsebseb: No. I get a grub Error 2 .. I don't even get to the list
[22:59] <DBeta> doleyb:Also, switching between normal dual screen and dual X wasn't quick or easy.
[22:59] <vocx> WebGuest1, Never done it, but I think you can change your home directory somewhere in the users and group options, and using the symnlink as you say may be easy.
[22:59] <sebsebseb> lore_: I guess the partition idea will work,  then  the bit of grub left in the mbr, will use the partition, if set up properly
[22:59] <swamptin> I went and installed ubuntu on a sony vgn-C1S from a boot cd, loaded fine after the install, fired it up again now and it got a kernel panic "Unable to mount root fs"... should I go ahead and just reinstall?
[22:59] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: ok. did u check the firewall?
[23:00] <doleyb> DBeta: i'm afraid it might be easier than capturing that keyboard input, which is the other alternative
[23:00] <vocx> lore_, if you have a Windows CD use that to install the Windows Bootloader, then repeat the steps I provided to reinstall grub.
[23:00] <ed0n0n> zeitsofa: Yes. I tried triggering the 22 port but didn't change anything
[23:00] <DBeta> doleyb: How would capturing the keyboard input help?
[23:01] <doleyb> DBeta: well prevent your flash player from noticing that another app was active... but i don't know how to approach that.
[23:01] <lore_> vocx: This is the output of my fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/131761/
[23:01] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: hmm sorry i don't know what is wrong.
[23:01] <DBeta> doleyb: Yeah, I figured the easy way would be to prevent Flash from knowing it wasn't in focus.
[23:02] <gartral> sorry _CommandeR_ went afk, you cant, you just need to manually change before launching it through the compiz icon, sorry
[23:02] <napzter> hi, anyone a metasploit user? PM me
[23:02] <vocx> lore_, might read this at least http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[23:02] <Flare183> !ot | napzter
[23:02] <DBeta> I'd think there was a way, but I wouldn't have a clue. I tried googling, but using the words linux and window together causes too much noise.
[23:03] <Wicked> !reiser
[23:03] <lore_> vocx: Yes it says "Selected disk doesn't exist" which is not very helpful :(
[23:03] <issa> Hi, is it possible to use an installed (already-compiled) files of catdoc and copy it to another machine and just use path to the command line file to have it work?
[23:03] <ed0n0n> zeitsofa: I was ssh-ing the other machine and I was running ps aux in it, but didnt have ssh-server running on one of them. I guess I need to in order to use scp between them
[23:03] <Dr_Willis64> Hmm
[23:04] <DBeta> Perhaps I should ask in the compiz IRC or the Gnome IRC.
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> one has to forward the port throught th router to get identd to respond.. thats a bigger security issue then having a funny  name in irc.. :)
[23:05] <vocx> lore_, might be BIOS problem? Check your BIOS when the PC boots. But do that, reinstall the bootloader with Windows, then make sure it works, then reinstall grub.
[23:05] <Lighttitan> when I attempt to do "sudo regedit" I get this: "wine: /home/titan/.wine is not owned by you" How do I take ownership of the .wine folder and all files underneath?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> Lighttitan,  you dont sudo it..
[23:05] <vocx> Lighttitan, do you need to use regedit in Wine?
[23:05] <bigrigger> ed0n0n: servers should not use port triggering, use port forwarding and insure your remote sshd daemon is listening/running.
[23:05] <zenlunatic> Lighttitan, chown
[23:05] <Lighttitan> but when I change this one registry value it just changes back
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Lighttitan,  the .wine stuff is owned by the user.. and  thus he can regedit his own wine things.
[23:06] <Dillizar> !xpde
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Lighttitan,  now you MIGHT of just messed that up if you accessed some files as root. they may now be owned by root - not theuser any more
[23:06] <ed0n0n> zeitsofa: Fixed it. But I just got a Write failed: Broken pipe. What is this, neve seen it
[23:06] <Lighttitan> oh I see... well I guess my problem would be more in wine than an Ubuntu question, I guess I need to go to that channel
[23:07] <bigrigger> ed0n0n: read my last post.
[23:07] <lore_> vocx: Don't thinks so, but thanks. It woas working till I messed up something in grub
[23:07] <jrib> DBeta: what card do you have?
[23:07] <zeitsofa> ed0n0n: read bigrigger's last post :)
[23:07] <DBeta> jrib:NVidia 7950
[23:07] <vocx> lore_, can you remember what you were messing?
[23:08] <jrib> DBeta: right, never mind, what I was thinking won't work anyway
[23:08] <bigrigger> port triggering does work well for identd port 113, fyi for whomever asked.
[23:08] <lore_> I just tried installing gfx grub..
[23:08] <lore_> it wasn't wise
[23:08] <ed0n0n> bigrigger: Do I need port formwarding in a LAN?? Do I have to change the port forwarding when DHCP changes IPs or new computers are connected to the LAN?
[23:08] <vocx> lore_, what's that?
[23:08] <lore_> I had made a backup of the grub dir and tried restoring it but no luck
[23:08] <gartral> lore_: in intrepid or 9?
[23:09] <lore_> gartral: in intrepid
[23:09] <gartral> i know you _MUST_ use lilo in the 9 releases
[23:09] <bigrigger> ed0n0n: if the box is on the same lan/subnet then no, just ssh user@192.168.x.x
[23:09] <Stevethepirate> Hey, I have a variety of SOCKS5 proxies running on sequential ports on my PC [ports 10001->10010] .. I wanna load balance over them into a common port [lets say 10011] so I can run over them as if they are a common stream [such as "tsocks links www.google.co.za"]
[23:09] <vocx> gartral, what???
[23:09] <_Whipper> ed0n0n, : just do your homework
[23:09] <Dillizar> !XPce
[23:09] <||drake||> i try to open "Screen Resolution" or "Screens and Graphics" and both refuse to open... what's going on?
[23:09] <Dillizar> !xpde
[23:09] <Flare183> !askthebot | Dillizar
[23:10] <lorenzo> hi brasero freezes when I try to add files to my audio projects. It freezes and i have to kill it. I get this error upon launch: (brasero:6339): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_window_resize: assertion `width > 0' failed. Any ideas? Thanks a lot!
[23:10] <ed0n0n> bigrigger: Thank you for your help. All is fine now :D
[23:10] <ed0n0n> _Whipper: Wipe out your homework
[23:10] <gartral> vocx: what about that bit saying "you must use liloconf after this process has finished" before the installation?
[23:10] <AU-8423>  
[23:11] <vocx> gartral, when did you see that?
[23:11] <_Whipper> ed0n0n, : thank you
[23:11] <gartral> it was in here, way long ago, hold on
[23:11] <bigrigger> ed0n0n: if the ip changes due to DHCP, you'll need to rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts locally and ssh to the new ip.
[23:11] <ed0n0n> _Whipper: You are wellcome
[23:11] <petergent> hi
[23:11] <bosco_>  how do i take a directory and make it so no one can view it in a web browser never done it before ?? on my server ???
[23:12] <Stevethepirate> Hey, I have a variety of SOCKS5 proxies running on sequential ports on my PC [ports 10001->10010] .. I wanna load balance over them into a common port [lets say 10011] so I can run over them as if they are a common stream [such as "tsocks links www.google.co.za"]
[23:12] <pvtpete> ?
[23:12] <ed0n0n> bigrigger: Should I put a static IP to each machine? Is it a good prociding?
[23:12] <Flare183> bosco_: Depends on the httpd server
[23:12] <bigrigger> bosco_: one way is use .htaccess file
[23:12] <Flare183> !ask | pvtpete
[23:12] <bigrigger> ed0n0n: static ip's solve that problem, answer=yes
[23:13] <bosco_> bigrigger, i know of .htaccess and i run ubuntu server????
[23:13] <||drake||> why do "Screen Resolutions" and "Screens and Graphics" refuse to open?
[23:13] <bosco_> i  just want it to say access denied ????
[23:14] <bigrigger> bosco_: if this is a http webserver,, yes thats what .htaccess is designed for, you can password protect it, forbid it lots of stuff.
[23:14] <magcius> !midi
[23:14] <_Whipper> ed0n0n, : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Security
[23:14] <ed0n0n> bigrigger: Good. I think Im starting to undestand the LAN networks. Thank you and zeitsofa
[23:14] <gartral> i have a geforce 2 MX440, and i can't get screen rotation too work, what am i missing, i'm using the restricted drivers, but it won't let me rotate my screen\
[23:14] <lore_> How to reinstall broken grub from scratch?
[23:15] <bigrigger> ed0n0n: have a good day.
[23:15] <magcius> Is there a way to make GStreamer use FluidSynth instead of Timidity++?
[23:15] <bosco_> bigrigger, i care if i view it i have seen websites like when you try to go to www.blah.com/pictures/ it says access denied i dont want them to be able to acess it but have the pics still show up on my site
[23:15] <issa> Hi, is it possible to use an installed (already-compiled) files of catdoc and copy it to another machine and just use path to the command line file to have it work?
[23:15] <dirty> What is the easiest way to get all the dependency's when complying a program?
[23:15] <_Whipper> !ot
[23:15] <siriusnova> Hello, is there any way to get evolution to store FULL messages instead of just headers offline? kind of like Thundebird's offline mode
[23:15] <ed0n0n> bigrigger: You too bigrigger.
[23:15] <magcius> dirty, apt-get build-dep
[23:15] <ed0n0n>  Thanks for the link _Whipper
[23:16] <bigrigger> bosco_: you can restrict viewing a directory list but still show content, iirc.
[23:16] <||drake||> so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:16] <||drake||> * Imaginativeone__ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[23:16] <bosco_> bigrigger, is there another way to do it other than .htaccess i just dont like that method
[23:16] <bigrigger> bosco_: google .htaccess, its universal and very versatile.
[23:17] <pvtpete> I'm having a problem booting ubuntu after installing it
[23:17] <dirty> magcius: sorry for the newb question, but what do I apoint to command to? a makefile?
[23:17] <pvtpete> can anyone help ?
[23:17] <magcius> dirty, hmm? You use it like apt-get install except it installs the build dependencies.
[23:17] <Flare183> pvtpete: Yes
[23:18] <magcius> For that package.
[23:18] <Stevethepirate> Hey, I have a variety of SOCKS5 proxies running on sequential ports on my PC [ports 10001->10010] .. I wanna load balance over them into a common port [lets say 10011] so I can run over them as if they are a common stream [such as "tsocks links www.google.co.za"]
[23:18] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : whats the prblm?
[23:18] <bosco_> bigrigger, if i set a .htaccess file in my /pictures/ dir and that is where i put pictures for my server then when they load my site they will have to put a password in to view my site prop with the pics so i just want the pics to laod fine but so they cant view the dir by typing it in
[23:18] <bigrigger> bosco_: what you're asking is somewhat redundant. you want users to see it, but not see it?
[23:18] <dirty> magcius: what if it is a .tar.gz? and not a package in the repos?
[23:18] <pvtpete> I'm getting various I/O errors
[23:18] <pvtpete> let me see now
[23:18] <dirty> magcius: also not a .deb
[23:18] <Sna4x8> Hello.  I can't for the life of me burn an audio cd.  Brasero freezes when I add a song to the list, so I got gnomebaker, which crashes with an invalid pointer in free();
[23:18] <magcius> dirty, then you have to apt-get install the -dev packages manually.
[23:19] <frojnd> Hello there. Is there any other way to see output of a program than just run it from shell ?
[23:19] <pvtpete> buffer I/o error on device sda, logical block 0, sd 0:0:1:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
[23:19] <bigrigger> bosco_: you can do exactly that, quite easily with a few directives.
[23:19] <magcius> dirty, Ubuntu doesn't know what to install if all you have is a .tar.gz!
[23:19] <vocx> frojnd,
[23:19] <gartral> Sna4x8: hoave you tryed k3b?
[23:19] <magcius> dirty, read the docs for how to compile it and what dependencies it requires.
[23:19] <vocx> frojnd, no, they aoutput to standard output which is the terminal
[23:19] <pvtpete> it's being repeated over and over
[23:19] <DBeta> Ha! Figured out a cheap work around. Not perfect, but better than nothing. Compiz has a zoom feature that works per desktop, so I can just zoom in on the window.
[23:19] <DBeta> Cheap, but it will work 'till I can find something better.
[23:19] <Sna4x8> No, I haven't.  I tried ripperX, x-cd-roast, Audacity, MPlayer, brasero, and gnomebaker.
[23:19] <pvtpete> with occasional asking for cache data failed, assumeing drive cache: write through
[23:19] <frojnd> vocx: ok but the command, can be modified or just: $ program ?
[23:20] <pvtpete> I just installed it on the master HDD
[23:20] <Reidy> Anyone able to help me fix my download speed issues?
[23:20] <gartral> dirty: you might also google for a deb of what your trying to install, "tar balls/bells" are a pain in the arse to work with
[23:21] <vocx> frojnd, the program can be modified yes, so instead of outputting to a terminal it outputs to a window or text area of course, but it's easier to just run it in the terminal.
[23:21] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : did you do a clean install?
[23:21] <Stevethepirate> Hey, I have a variety of SOCKS5 proxies running on sequential ports on my PC [ports 10001->10010] .. I wanna load balance over them into a common port [lets say 10011] so I can run over them as if they are a common stream [such as "tsocks links www.google.co.za"]
[23:21] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : checked md5?
[23:21] <gartral> i have a geforce 2 MX440, and i can't get screen rotation too work, what am i missing, i'm using the restricted drivers, but it won't let me rotate my screen\
[23:21] <nael> I have a stalled booting problem with 8.10, I cannot boot without pressing the return button all the time
[23:22] <Reidy> Can someone help me with a download speed issue?
[23:22] <pvtpete> MD5?
[23:22] <pvtpete> yeah I did
[23:22] <pvtpete> wiped and all
[23:22] <gartral> Reidy: for us too help, you need to give information
[23:22] <Reidy> My download speeds wont go higher than 30kb/s....
[23:22] <pvtpete> I partitiond it in the installer via guided install
[23:23] <gartral> Reidy: are you on dialup?
[23:23] <Reidy> No, cable.
[23:23] <gartral> whos the provider?
[23:23] <Reidy> But I'm wireless. On XP & Vista, which I was running yesterday, my dl speeds were around 350kb/s. Provider is Mediacom.
[23:23] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : did you try to install it again?
[23:24] <pvtpete> I can do
[23:24] <DBeta> For those who tried to help me, thanks. I'll continue chewing on this one.
[23:24] <Sna4x8> gartral: k3b doesn't see my ntfs drive for some reason.
[23:24] <pvtpete> flare183 was saying that maybe my rive might be dead
[23:24] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : yeah it might...
[23:24] <gartral> Reidy: are you aweare you just added another variable here... so your d/l speeds peak at 30 kb/s in both windows and ubuntu?
[23:24] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : might not..
[23:25] <Reidy> No, my download speeds in Windows peaks at around 350kb/s...in Ubuntu, it peaks at about 30kb/s
[23:25] <gartral> Sna4x8: ahh, theres your problem, try copying the files to your home dir and burning from there (i know, its a pain, but NTFS is more so!)
[23:26] <pvtpete> ok well
[23:26] <pvtpete> I'll boot up to livecd again
[23:26] <pvtpete> ?
[23:26] <gartral> Reidy: ok, thank you, have you tryed a cat5 cable (networking cable) too your router to see if its the router or ubuntu?
[23:26] <Sna4x8> I did.
[23:26] <Sna4x8> And it says invalid format on my mp3s
[23:26] <pvtpete> perhaps you can tell me how I can repair the drive
[23:26] <gartral> and k3b wont see them in your home dir?
[23:27] <nael> I have a stalled booting problem with 8.10, I cannot boot without pressing the return button all the time
[23:27] <pvtpete> or guide me
[23:27] <Ethan> \join
[23:27] <pvtpete> anyway
[23:27] <nael> any suggestions?
[23:27] <gartral> last@ Sna4x8
[23:27] <Alek_> kinda need some help, I messed around in about:config in epiphany and now it wont load pages, (not even about:config) so how do I restore it the default configuration??
[23:27] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : if its broke, then its broken.. nothing to do.. but if its a software-issue.. another thing
[23:27] <Sna4x8> gartral: It sees them in my home dir, it says .mp3 is an invalid format.
[23:27] <issa> Hi, is it possible to use an installed (already-compiled) files of catdoc and copy it to another machine and just use path to the command line file to have it work?
[23:27] <Reidy> The router is completely fine. I'm betting it's something with Ubuntu...but I don't know what...and that's kind of annoying. Trying to update to 8.0.4 is pretty tenuous when it takes 8hrs to update at 30kb/s..
[23:28] <gartral> Sna4x8: then you dont have mp3 support
[23:28] <pvtpete> ok
[23:28] <Sna4x8> I can play them fine?
[23:28] <gartral> !mp3|Sna4x8
[23:28] <bosco_> bigrigger, is this what you are talking about http://www.codestyle.org/sitemanager/apache/errors-403.shtml
[23:28] <swamptin> !ubottu grub.config
[23:28] <swamptin> !ubottu grub
[23:28] <LjL> !fishing
[23:29] <gartral> right, i meant k3b doesn't have mp3 support, you need another package, i forget what, i think ffmpeg
[23:29] <Vantrax> !grub
[23:29] <gartral> last @ Sna4x8
[23:30] <gRunt> Hi all can anyone recommend an easy gui based SSH program I need to ssh into my ipod thats all
[23:30] <Vantrax> !grub | swaptin
[23:30] <gunny_17> !ubottu irssi
[23:30] <Reidy> Know what the problem might be gartral?
[23:30] <Vantrax> !irissi | gunny_17
[23:30] <Tarantulafudge> Anyone have trouble installing ubuntu server 8.10 on vmware-server 1.0.8
[23:31] <Vantrax> !irissi
[23:31] <eseven73> !info irssi
[23:31] <roja> list
[23:31] <bigrigger> bosco_: that page is for customizing error messages, but it basically explains how to do what you want. this is another good page. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/htaccess.html
[23:31] <Alek_> kinda need some help, I messed around in about:config in epiphany and now it wont load pages, (not even about:config) so how do I restore it the default configuration??
[23:32] <gRunt> Hi all can anyone recommend an easy gui based SSH program I need to ssh into my ipod thats all
[23:32] <melik> how do i add a member to a group?
[23:32] <Vantrax> Alek_, Im reasonably sure you can just delete it and it will be recreated
[23:32] <n1c0> hi to everyone
[23:32] <Vantrax> gRunt, any reason you cant ssh with the terminal?
[23:32] <n1c0> anybosy asleep?
[23:33] <bigrigger> melik: sudo adduser username groupname
[23:33] <Vantrax> Alek_ your going to end up with a terminal connection anyway
[23:33] <melik> bigrigger, wouldnt that create a new user?
[23:33] <Vantrax> err gRunt your going to end up with a terminal connection anyway
[23:33] <gartral> Reidy: not really, at least until you test lan, if lan is giving the same issues, its your routers firewall, if its ubuntu, it should be "fixed" after a network cable, but we'll have to figure out whats with that wifi card if its not the router
[23:33] <bigrigger> melik: no
[23:33] <bigrigger> melik: it adds 'username' to 'group'
[23:34] <gRunt> Vantrax, thats cool could you give me any idea on how to sssh via terminal then, im still relatively new to linux and terminal scares me a bit but ill give it a go :)
[23:34] <melik> ah allrighty thanks =)
[23:34] <melik> it worked
[23:34] <Vantrax> gRunt, use ssh username@dnsname
[23:34] <gartral> !find|gRunt
[23:34] <bigrigger> melik: theres a gui app for this if you have X
[23:34] <nael> I have a stalled booting problem with 8.10, I cannot boot without pressing the return button all the time
[23:34] <Reidy> Is there a way to access my router via my computer to maybe configure the firewall to allow Ubuntu to pass? Or maybe my router needs to be configured to allow access to Ubuntu's networking devices? I'm not good with Ubuntu...so I could be talking our my you know what
[23:34] <nael> does anybody have any ideas?
[23:35] <nael> or questions to ask?
[23:35] <gRunt> so in this case if its my ipod can I just ssh <iphere> Vantrax ?
[23:35] <vocx> nael, please explain, does it stop at grub, does it give error messages, what else?
[23:35] <n1c0> Guys I've a problem witm my ubuntu. I've recently formetted and reinstall itrepid but 've a trouble wit lan connection. I've need to reconfigure the mtu value but i forget kow do this
[23:36] <melik> bigrigger, i find CLI better =)
[23:36] <n1c0> anybody can halp me?
[23:36] <melik> and easier; im learning it little by little.
[23:36] <Vantrax> gRunt, you need to know the dns name or the IP
[23:37] <gartral> reidy does trying to visit home (http://home) or 172.198.0.1 from firefox bring you too the conf page of your router?
[23:37] <gRunt> yeah ive got the ip but as far as im aware it has no username is all I am saying.
[23:37] <Vantrax> gRunt, so it would be ssh username@192.168.0.10
[23:37] <gRunt> Ahh okay ty
[23:37] <nael> vocx, it gets past grub and the splash screen comes up. The progress bar does not move unless I hold return and it eventually boots
[23:37] <Vantrax> gRunt, it will have a username somewhere in it
[23:37] <gRunt> I just found out filezilla is multi-platform too so will give that a look.
[23:37] <nael> vocx, there are no visible error messages
[23:37] <gartral> GAH! Reidy im sorry, the ip is 172.198.0.1
[23:38] <donkey> is there a help channel or something
[23:38] <gartral> donkey: this is ubuntu help channel
[23:38] <dhysk1> i think this is the help channel
[23:38] <vocx> nael, when you see the grub menu, edit the line, and remove the kernel lines "quiet" and "splash" that way, you won't have the splash screen, and you will see the errors if any
[23:38] <donkey> oh ok
[23:39] <gartral> donkey: i dont know if theres a general "help channel" on freenode
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> i always change splash to be 'nosplash'
[23:39] <Until_It_Sleeps> What is the OT channel?
[23:39] <nael> how do I get the grub menu up?
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> !ot | Until_It_Sleeps
[23:39] <Gnea> !ot
[23:39] <gartral> Dr_Willis: i think splash screens are too reminiscent of corporate programming ways
[23:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> thanks
[23:40] <donkey> i have a question, i'm trying to unmount my swap partition because it's currently a primary and i wanted to change it to extended
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> i want the text messages :)
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> donkey,  you may need to use the swapoff command
[23:40] <n1c0> Guys I've a problem witm my ubuntu. I've recently formetted and reinstall intrepid but i've a trouble with my lan connection. I've need to reconfigure the mtu value but i forget how do this
[23:40] <n1c0> anybody can help me?
[23:40] <donkey> yeah sorry it says cannot allocate memory
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> donkey,  you areusing sudo with that command?
[23:40] <donkey> yep
[23:40] <pvtpete> hi
[23:40] <gartral> donkey: editing the swap volume is a very very very bad idea, if it isn't broken, don't do anything too it, not unless you really really really need too
[23:41] <Flannel> !swap | donkey
[23:41] <vocx> nael, when it's booting press ESC, then when you have the menu, press "e" to edit, then remove those words "quiet" and "splash", then ESC, then "b" to boot. Those changes are only temporary, but you can make them permanent by editing, /boo/grub/menu.lst
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> donkey,  if a lot of stuff is using swap.. you may need to close them. and perhaps reboot and use a live cd   or somting that is not going to use  the swap file
[23:41] <pvtpete> back again: I'm stuck and I can't boot from livecd. It's worked before but now I'm stuck in the box thing
[23:41] <pvtpete> (CLI)
[23:41] <donkey> i dont care about the volume it's just that it's primary and i'm at the 4 primary parttition limit so i wanted to change it to extended if that's possible
[23:41] <jj_galvez> when I click in a window it neither raises or changes focus, and this continues until I logout and back any thoughts? BTW this is with Compiz on
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> donkey,  live cd + gparted I think can do tht
[23:41] <Z3ro3X> I finely got my fracking wireless working.  This is what I did.  I downloaded http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz deactivated the wifi using System  - > Administration -> Hardware Drivers.  Decompressed the gz file.  Went into the folder through shell.  Typed make then sudo make install.  Rebooted then reactivated the driver in "Hardware Drivers".
[23:41] <donkey> ok
[23:41] <donkey> great
[23:42] <donkey> i will try that
[23:42] <donkey> thanks
[23:42] <gartral> donkey: i don't think ubuntu will see the swap part after you reboot once that change was made
[23:42] <android6011> is there an msn messenger besides amsn with webcam support?
[23:42] <donkey> what do you mean?
[23:42] <gartral> android6011: kopete
[23:43] <Reidy> @ Z3ro3X: What was the problem with your wireless? slow download speeds?
[23:43] <_Whipper> donkey:who?
[23:43] <donkey> gartral
[23:43] <vocx> donkey, remove or comment the line about swap in /etc/fstab so Linux doesn't try to activate it. Then you can do whatever you want with the swap partition.
[23:43] <donkey> ok
[23:43] <jeeves> how can I set up a quick/dirty VPN soulition so I can connect to our remote network to find out what goof set up IIS on a windows box and is causing problems for my Linux server
[23:43] <gartral> donkey: nvm, i was thinking older ubuntu
[23:43] <Z3ro3X> Reidy, The driver was that came on the disc was busted or something because ubuntu wasn't even recognizing my wifi hardware.
[23:43] <donkey> k
[23:43] <dronix> android6011: doesn't pidgin support cam?
[23:43] <android6011> dronix i dont think so
[23:44] <gartral> dronix: no, pidgin lacks all A/V communication abilityies, just text
[23:44] <gartral> s abilityies/abilities
[23:44] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, ppp over ssh? but if you can ssh into a box there you might not need the VPN
[23:44] <_Whipper> pvtpete, :you could not have done the things i mentioned in this time... :)
[23:44] <dronix> gartral: yeah just checked
[23:45] <gRunt> Vantrax, thanks I connected via terminal no problems but I am rather horrid with and want to do a fair bit of file copying so might see if I can get filezilla to connect.
[23:45] <gartral> dronix: i know im right, cause i use pidgin
[23:45] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, I can ssh into the box, but it keep dropping the connection.  One of the ham fisted interns decided that screwing with stuff on a Sunday was a good idea
[23:45] <pvtpete> oh I thought you went to the pub
[23:45] <pvtpete> or something
[23:45] <dronix> gatral: :)
[23:45] <gartral> i have a geforce 2 MX440, and i can't get screen rotation too work, what am i missing, i'm using the restricted drivers, but it won't let me rotate my screen\
[23:45] <Reidy> @ Gartral: It won't let me connect to that IP. And my internet speeds are pretty sluggish as well. I've heard it might have something to do with IPv6(my internet speeds)...but as far as my download speeds IDK what to do.
[23:45] <Stevethepirate> Hey, I have a variety of SOCKS5 proxies running on sequential ports on my PC [ports 10001->10010] .. I wanna load balance over them into a common port [lets say 10011] so I can run over them as if they are a common stream [such as "tsocks links www.google.co.za"]
[23:45] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/ppp-ssh.html
[23:45] <_Whipper> pvtpete, : nope, just to pick a beer and a smoke
[23:46] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, if the ssh connection keeps dropping then a VPN may not have any better luck.
[23:46] <pvtpete> oh ok
[23:46] <pvtpete> :)
[23:46] <pvtpete> why would the live cd dump me to a CLI though ?
[23:46] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, can I use nmap to isolate the windows box?  maybe remotly shut down the IIS service?
[23:46] <pvtpete> shouldn't it just run from the cd (it's worked before0
[23:47] <pvtpete> loads of times
[23:47] <vocx> gartral, if you are using the restricted drivers you should probably complain with NVidia themselves. Also, search the forum, maybe someone has already experience with it. Maybe nobody can solve the issue, which means it's a problem with the drivers.
[23:47] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, nmap shoule be able to find it. remote shutdown? possible... can you remote-desktop into it?
[23:48] <Sna4x8> gd, I'd have to be a hacker to burn a cd in this os.
[23:48] <gartral> Reidy: search therepos for IPv6, i think you might have tunneling issues, but beyond that, you might use a networking cable, also, as a side note, try knoppix or backtrack to see if its a general linux issue
[23:48] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, lol, I wish.  if that was the case, I would have killed it allready
[23:48] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, what is the problem? is it 'borrowing' the IP address of the real server?
[23:49] <afreq> hello
[23:49] <Wanderer> wonder if my bloodyisp is throttling my apt-get upgrade
[23:49] <gartral> vocx: i initially installed the restricted drivers cause someone said that would fix the issue, and i know aLOT of people who have this card, and there all running fine
[23:49] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, when I try to connect to the HTTP, it keeps going to an IIS server page.  and I don't know why it dropps the SSH connection occasionally.
[23:49] <gartral> Wanderer: take it up with them
[23:49] <vocx> gartral, oh, in that case, you should ask them.
[23:49] <afreq> Wanderer...you should talk to those people then :p
[23:49] <Wanderer> they'll just deny it, have to figure out to prove it first
[23:49] <gartral> i did, they said ask here >.<
[23:49] <Wanderer> will have to look into that switzerland thing
[23:49] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, is the HTTP connection going to the same box as the SSH connection?
[23:50] <afreq> gartral i mean
[23:50] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, yes, this is a remote office, and everything (http, ftp, IMAP, POP, ssh, smtp, etc) is going to the same box
[23:50] <gartral> afreq|vocx: i did, they said ask here, same as nvidia support
[23:51] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, then the intern decided to "move" all of the servers from the office we closed to this office, and then plugged the old office's PCs into the router that they were orignally connected to, then uplinked that into the existing network
[23:51] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, as you're asking about VPN's I'm assuming this whole mess is behind a gateway of some kind. DNAT messed up? the other thing I can think of is that the windows box is using the same IP address and every now and then it wind the ARP-wars and kicks off your real server.
[23:51] <AU-8423> /join #gentoo
[23:51] <gartral> afreq|vocx: i asked if it could be because i have a 5:4 monitor, or if the port only operates at 4x AGP, they all said that those shouldn't matter
[23:51] <Tarantulafudge> lol arp wars
[23:52] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, is there a way to put this server @ the top of the "food chain" to prevent the windows servers from fighting with it when they call an election?
[23:52] <]Prometheus[> what is the best way to kill the X server until next reboot ?
[23:52] <vocx> gartral, don't use the | symbol, separate our nicknames with spaces, that way it highlight properly
[23:52] <Reidy> @ Gartral: Check your IM's, I sent you one....that was like speaking a foreign language. Don't know what you just asaid..lol
[23:52] <Sna4x8> .    /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:52] <gartral> vocx: sorry, pidgin did that
[23:52] <afreq> to be honest i don't know i just thought i'd throw in a cheeky comment :p
[23:53] <afreq> i'm only in here cos i've got to build an IRC client for uni
[23:53] <vocx> gartral, real men use xchat to irc
[23:53] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, not an election thing (WINS), it sounds more like an ARP thing, i.e. the windows box has the same static IP address as the real server. When the gateway does an ARP request it sometimes gets the windows box (and you get an IIS page) and sometimes the real (ubuntu?) server (and you getssh, temporarily)
[23:53] <wandana> \join xml
[23:53] <ScottG489> How do i uninstall all of a packages dependencies? Like all the packages that come with another package when you install it?
[23:53] <Gnea> jeeves: do you have the http server redefined in dns or a hosts file?
[23:53] <]Prometheus[> ok, ty
[23:53] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, can you remote-admin the gateway?
[23:54] <jeeves> Gnea, yes, the DNS is external to the site though
[23:54] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, naaa, our ISP is a b**ch.  they don't allow us access to the router
[23:54] <Gnea> jeeves: is the site full of real ip's or private address ranges?
[23:54] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, any trained monkeys on-site that could unplug the windows box?
[23:55] <jeeves> Gnea, the site is behind a router.  and we don't have access to it.  (trust me, I'd LOVE to slap the ISP's admin).
[23:55] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, naaa, the monkey buggerd off and turned his phone off.  If I have to go out there, all hell is going to break loose
[23:55] <unop> ScottG489,  aptitude remove package  #should do it.
[23:55] <Gnea> jeeves: by 'site', I was referring to the IP-segment, not the web server
[23:55] <CokeNCode> k guys, how do i get my blackberry pearl to work with ubuntu ?
[23:56] <sir_yodle> does Wine have a very large footprint?
[23:56] <CokeNCode> i wanna upload some custom ringtones
[23:56] <jeeves> Gnea, oh, sorry.  it's all internal IPs behind a NAT
[23:56] <_Whipper> !ot
[23:57] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, OK... here's where it gets nasty. ssh into the server (ubuntu, right?) and then ping-flood the gateway (run the ping-flood with a time-limit, just in case). It'll keep the ARP tables full of the 'right' information and should allow you to keep your SSH session up.
[23:57] <Gnea> jeeves: ah, okay. well if they aren't running an internal DNS server then it sounds poorly setup. you could always clamp down arp addresses if you've got the access.
[23:57] <FlareDS> jeeves: you should have setup port forwarding
[23:58] <Gnea> sprinkmeier: why ping-flood when the arp command can lock it in place?
[23:58] <sprinkmeier> Gnea, it's the gateway's ARP table you're trying to fix in place, not the servers.
[23:58] <FernandoF> hello
[23:58] <afreq> arg bugs in my client
[23:58] <jeeves> Gnea, lol, trust me, if this wasn't the only high speed connection option in the area, I'd be all over it.  the network Natzi won't allow ANYTHING to run on the network (including e-mail (allthough, we have ours running) even on a business account).
[23:58] <afreq> if you type a ":" in your message everything after dissapears!
[23:59] <jeeves> FlareDS:  I'd love to, but we don't have access to the router
[23:59] <ScottG489> unop: no that just removes the single package
[23:59]  * Flare183 = FlareDS
[23:59] <Gnea> sprinkmeier: if enough servers could set the gateway...
[23:59] <Flare183> jeeves: That sucks
[23:59] <jj_galvez> compiz raise on click is broken
[23:59] <LjL> ScottG489: not when done with aptitude, no
[23:59] <LjL> ScottG489: alternatively anyway, sudo apt-get autoremove packagename
[23:59] <Flare183> !hi | FernandoF