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bcurtiswxdtchen: so far so good with your fixes00:09
vocxIt's funny, I don't even know what a "nomination" means in Lauchpad. There's too much in Launchpad, I don't even know how to use.00:21
david_The line of links before the bug description includes "Nominate for release"00:23
david_meaning "I think it needs to be fixed for <one or more releases>"00:24
david_But, yeah - lots to deal with, not always clear how...00:24
Hobbseedavid_: is correct00:25
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rwwhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/343445 is a feature request and can be set as wishlist (HowToTriage told me to say that here; if there's somewhere else I should be mentioning this, let me know :/)00:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 343445 in ubuntu "Graphical fstab editor" [Undecided,New]00:55
bcurtiswxrww: set00:56
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bcurtiswxok i cant read the openGPG in my e-mail... ive tried firegpg and moving it to evolution02:31
bcurtiswxno success02:31
bcurtiswxick02:31
dtchenbcurtiswx: RE: "your fixes" - do you mean from my ppa?02:34
bcurtiswxyup02:36
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YoBoYgood morning06:27
savvasseb128: hi, do you think it's possible to fix bug 201224 with the suggestions I mentioned in my last comment?09:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 201224 in epiphany-browser "epiphany has no menue entry in Hardy" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20122409:39
seb128savvas: I don't understand your suggestion there, adding a daemon for what?09:41
savvasseb128: no no :) I meant using the notification-daemon to pop up a notification that in order to show the menu item the user has to log out and log back in09:42
seb128savvas: he doesn't?09:42
seb128savvas: gnome-menus uses inotify to monitor desktop changes09:42
savvasI just installed epiphany-browser and didn't see any notification09:43
savvaslet me try on a virtual machine09:43
seb128there is no notifications09:43
savvasah ok :)09:44
seb128do you want also to displays notifications when user click on an icon to say they clicked on the icon ? ;-)09:44
savvaspoint taken :P09:44
seb128the menu is just updated to list what has been installed09:44
savvasbut for a menu update a user can be and will be confused - that race between -data and binary is evil :)09:45
seb128there is 2 things there09:46
seb128one is that gnome-menus could watch for the binary to be available09:46
seb128the other one is that the .desktop and the binary should be shipped in the same deb09:47
savvasis there a gnome-menus bug/feature request for this upstream?09:48
savvasif you happen to know that is :)09:48
seb128there is one in launchpad dunno upstream but I guess so09:49
savvasok I'll try and search a bit, thanks!09:50
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pedro_hello jgoguen13:06
jgoguenhey pedro_13:07
jgoguenpedro_: do you have a few minutes to look at some bugs?13:07
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pedro_jgoguen: sure13:10
seb128pedro_: hola13:23
pedro_seb128: bonjour monsieur Bacher!13:25
seb128pedro_: how are you?13:25
pedro_seb128: good good, catching up with the bug email from the weekend, how about you?13:27
seb128pedro_: good too, trying to catch up with the 2.26 tarballs ;-)13:27
seb128and being puzzled by dvd playing which didn't work on friday and works today when I wanted to look at debugging libdvdread13:27
pedro_right that's due to today13:28
pedro_mm? that's strange13:28
seb128yeah13:29
seb128does it work for you?13:29
seb128do you have any protected dvd to try?13:29
seb128(ie one where you need libdvdcss)13:29
pedro_there's some weird magic in gstreamer, sometimes i'm testing some files which doesn't seems to work well, like having fast play, bad streams, things like that and after a few hours they work fine13:30
pedro_yeah i have a protected one (spiderman 3 i guess), let me find it13:31
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pedro_seb128: i'm getting a lot of *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in /build/buildd/libdvdread-4.1.3/src/ifo_read.c:1601 *** and totem seems to be hanged, like waiting for the response from the library13:36
seb128pedro_: ok good, I had that on friday13:37
seb128pedro_: did you dist-upgrade today yet?13:37
pedro_seb128: yes, did it like an hour ago13:38
seb128pedro_: that was breaking the same way for me on friday and it's working today I'm puzzled on why13:38
seb128hum, ok, murphy's law in action then13:38
* pedro_ trying with another dvd13:38
pedro_seb128: got the exactly the same issue with another dvd disc13:39
seb128ok thanks13:39
pedro_no problem13:39
seb128pedro_: I must be scaring bugs away now or something ;-)13:40
pedro_lol13:40
pedro_seb128: you or your 127 slaves :-P13:41
seb128lol13:41
seb128pedro_: be carreful or I could take you to replace one of those ;-)13:41
* pedro_ runs away13:42
bddebianBoo13:51
pedro_buuu!13:52
BUGabundofoo13:53
bddebianmoo13:53
BUGabundomeeeeee13:53
pedro_good day MrKanister15:02
MrKanisterhey pedro_15:02
MrKanisterpedro_: Do you think the BugDay page is ready? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090319)15:08
pedro_MrKanister: i was just looking at it. Looks fine to me, just added a bug with a patch to the list too15:10
pedro_MrKanister: are you about to send the announcement?15:10
MrKanisterpedro_:I noticed your editing because wanted to edit something but it didn't worked :)15:11
MrKanisterpedro_: Yes, I will send the announcement in the evening15:11
pedro_MrKanister: alright, thanks dude!15:12
MrKanisterpedro_: Sure!15:12
BUGabundoYoBoY: 326!!!! nice work! 50 down only 300 to go! yay16:00
YoBoYarg 300...16:10
BUGabundoeheehehehehehe16:10
YoBoY"This is where we hold them. This is were we fight! This is were they die!" :D16:11
joumetalCould someone from bugsquad set bug 220142 back to triaged please16:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220142 in yelp "Yelp:ERROR:(yelp-document.c:275):yelp_document_cancel_page: assertion failed: (document != NULL && YELP_IS_DOCUMENT (document))" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22014216:36
pedro_joumetal: can you reproduce it again?16:40
charlie-tcadone, joumetal16:40
joumetalyes. last comment in  bug is true.16:42
pedro_joumetal: may you comment on the upstream BTS as well? your latest comment there says the opposite16:45
joumetalpedro_: yep. commented in bugzilla too.17:02
pedro_joumetal: awesome, thanks17:03
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Deenrgreetings18:07
DeenrI've got an recent issue with SMB shares over my network.  Can someone help me troubleshoot18:07
Deenr??18:09
YoBoYDeenr: hi, if you need support, ask on #ubuntu , if you need help to fill a bug you are in the right place :)18:10
Deenryeah, I've tried the main #ubuntu room18:11
Deenrno such luck.  I've read about my issue.  Seems it's a bug18:11
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mrooneyDeenr: have you found an existing bug? If so the best thing to do is subscribe to it and mark it as affecting you, and add any extra information if you have any in a comment18:13
Deenrach, ok18:13
leoquantDeenr and you want add your comment to it? then we need a bug number.18:14
Deenralrighty18:15
mrooneyleoquant: we don't a bug number for someone to add their comments to it, what do you mean?18:15
leoquantno it is better to know the exact bug, avoiding duplicates18:17
mrooneywhat is the correct package for multimedia key issues?18:18
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mrooneypedro_: is there some policy I am not aware of, re bug 280710, that recommends closing bugs just because no upstream report is created?18:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 280710 in compiz "expo key spreads over multiple monitors" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28071018:54
mrooneythat doesn't seem...right18:54
pedro_mrooney: no there is not18:55
pedro_mrooney: wishlist bugs should be send upstream though, i don't want to close that either, but if the reporter doesn't fill that upstream there's nothing we can do to make that happen18:56
mrooneyright, I don't think we should Invalidate it though just because of that :)18:56
mrooneyotherwise people in the future (like me) couldn't find it18:56
pedro_mrooney: that's right, just want to encourage them to do it :-)18:56
mrooneypedro_: I suppose I'll do it! But how do I know if it goes in Compiz or Compiz-Fusion?18:58
mrooneythat is confusing18:58
mrooneyugh what is Xorg doing with an entire core of my CPU :[19:01
pedro_mrooney: good question, i think it's just "Compiz" if it's the wrong component upstream can reassign it later19:02
pedro_those compiz guys always fighting :-P19:02
mrooneyI will if Firefox stops making Xorg consume 100% CPU19:08
mrooneyit does it in both 3.0 and 3.1 (from the nightly PPA) with a clean profile :(19:09
mrooneybut only when looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bugs , hmm19:11
bdmurraymaybe its one of those crazy greasemonkey scripts ;-)19:12
mrooneybdmurray: I thought about that but it happens on a fresh profile19:13
mrooneylet me try again just to make extra sure19:14
mrooneybdmurray: well while you are here, is there a bug report for how update manager doesn't appear in the tray any more?19:16
mrooneyI didn't find one but, it wasn't easy to look without all my clock cycles :)19:17
mrooneyand https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343813 is a would-be dupe19:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 343813 in update-notifier "no notification updates in jaunty" [Undecided,New]19:17
mrooneyhey someone changed it! it used to be in rythmbox19:18
mrooneyahh pedro_ beat me to it19:18
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mrooneydo multimedia key bugs go against linux?19:58
bdmurraymrooney: it really depends20:00
mrooneybdmurray: oh okay, what about for bug 34378220:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 343782 in ubuntu "mulimedia key act in wrong way" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34378220:01
bdmurraymrooney: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting20:02
bdmurraymrooney: there ins't enough information to tell anything about that bug report20:03
bdmurrayisn't20:03
mrooneybdmurray: should I just link to that page asking them to attempt to troubleshoot and then get back to us, and mark as incomplete?20:03
bdmurraymrooney: that sounds best20:04
mrooneybdmurray: actually it sounds like he is saying that the keys work, but that they adjust the capture level and not the mater20:07
mrooney*master20:07
mrooneyafter a re-re-read20:07
jcastrobdmurray: I want to do a test page for likewise-open/active directory testing like this one was done for X: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting20:08
jcastrowhere shall I put it?20:08
mrooneyjcastro: hi! can I sneak in and ask if launchpad's upstream filer for Firefox should really be filing against "Core" and not "Firefox"?20:10
jcastromrooney: what do you mean?20:15
mrooneyjcastro: if there is a bug in firefox (ubuntu) and you say, hey this also affects upstream firefox, it will send you to mozilla's bugzilla and pre-populate a report20:16
mrooneybut the product it files against is Mozilla Core20:16
mrooneyinstead of Firefox20:16
jcastrooh, not the firefox product?20:16
mrooneyright20:17
jcastrolame20:17
jcastrolet me check20:17
mrooneyyeah, it seems better to file against Firefox by default and let them move to Core if it happens to be a core issue20:17
mrooneythat is what #firefox suggested anyway20:18
jcastroright20:18
mrooneyjcastro: I am not just randomly asking you right, you are related to launchpads upstream flow? :)20:18
jcastroyep! this is my kind of thing!20:19
jcastromrooney: the bugs guy who fixes this kind of thing is at a sprint this week, mind if I CC you in on the email?20:20
mrooneygo for it!20:20
mrooneyby the way I was talking to you about ubuntu bugs automatically being filed upstream a few weeks ago, any progress on that?20:21
jcastroyes it's going to need more discussion20:21
jcastrothere's currently no way to do it on a per-package basis20:21
jcastrowhich is what we want to do20:21
mrooneyyeah that would be neat20:22
mrooneyright now my applications "help -> report a bug" just files upstream20:22
mrooneyso that sort of works20:22
mrooneyI have to manually open an Ubuntu task if appropriate, but that is fairly painless20:23
bcurtiswxmy openPGP key has an old e-mail address I don't use anymore.  can I edit the old key or should I just make a new one?20:23
jcastromrooney: I have it on my "to discuss" for this next UDS.20:25
jcastromrooney: but it was on that list last UDS too, it really depends on how much manpower we can get from the lp bugs folks to implement it.20:25
jcastromrooney: did you see my lp-upstream-tool though? That should help in the meantime20:26
mrooneyjcastro: cool. by the way, are the sponsoring results this week? :) I recall the page mentioned 3/16 in some way20:26
jcastroI believe it's tomorrow20:26
mrooneyhow potentially exciting!20:27
jcastromrooney: this only happens when you file a new bug right?20:28
mrooneythere are no problems when linking to an existing report, is that what you mean?20:28
jcastroright20:28
mrooneyyes, only new reports20:28
jcastromrooney: can you see if there is a bug on this, and if not, open one?20:29
jcastrothen I will push it along to the right person20:29
mrooneyjcastro: sure, against launchpad?20:29
jcastroI haven't filed a new bug in so long I didn't even know we did pre-filling out already20:29
jcastroagainst malone.20:29
mrooneyooooh20:29
mrooneyyeah it is so convenient but sadly wrong20:29
mrooneyand useful because many FF issues aren't going to get fixed in Ubuntu20:30
jcastrowell, the idea was to save people the time of copying and pasting so if we fix that part ...20:30
mrooneybut you know why upstream reports are useful already :)20:30
mrooneyyour presentation at the last UDS was pretty cool, with that whole page of data20:30
jcastroyes, we're collectively doing much better now20:31
jcastrothere's alot more green in the report than there used to be20:31
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mrooneyjcastro: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/34389320:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 343893 in malone "Firefox upstream helper files against Mozilla Core product and not Firefox" [Undecided,New]20:52
jcastromrooney: confirming, I'll let gmb know20:53
jgoguencan someone on bug-control set the importance of bug 240503 to Low21:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 240503 in cups "pages per page is ignored" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24050321:55
bdmurrayjgoguen: Why Low?22:07
jgoguenbdmurray: because it's a bug that can be easily worked around22:08
bdmurrayjgoguen: I don't see a work around in the bug report22:08
jgoguenbdmurray: the reporter's second comment says that the workaround is to set the pages-per-page in the application's print dialog rather than the printer admin tool22:09
bdmurrayIsn' that just for one application though?22:10
jgoguenbdmurray: sorry, actually he says Evince...but I checked also with Firefox22:10
bdmurrayjgoguen: Cool, I think I'll still use Medium though as it doesn't seem that discoverable.22:11
jgoguenbdmurray: ok, thanks :)22:11
bdmurrayjgoguen: by the way it might be helpful to use apport-collect with that bug to grab log / files just in case22:11
jcastromrooney: oh, I didn't know we could change the data22:12
jcastromrooney: it should work itself out now.22:12
jgoguenbdmurray: yes, I forgot about the apport hook...I'll run it now22:12
mrooneyjcastro: oh cool excellent. haha I love that it was converted to a question22:14
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bcurtiswxscott_ev: are you there?23:42
scott_evyes23:42
bcurtiswxscott_ev: the pidgin bug you just requested information from, you want to set that as incomplete as well23:43
scott_evoh, thx, will do23:43
scott_evI have a fewe out there like that..oops23:43
scott_evI'll track them down23:43
bcurtiswxscott_ev: its nothing big.  Thanks for triaging bugs!23:45
scott_evbcurtiswx: it's fun and I want to get better at it23:46
scott_evanytime you see something not quite right from me, please let me know23:46
bcurtiswxscott_ev: its always a learning experience, no matter how many bugs any of us have triaged, there's always something new.  If you are questionable about any decision, everyone in here is extremely helpful and more than happy to help you out as you learn23:47
scott_evexcellent, thanks.  You'll be seeing me23:49
bcurtiswxscott_ev: do you know about the wiki pages that assist bug triagers?23:49
bcurtiswxscott_ev: for example https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage23:50
scott_evyes, I have a lot of info and a short memory23:52
bcurtiswxscott_ev: good luck23:53
scott_evbcurtiswx: believe it or not, I've written a bug triaging tutorial for my LoCo.  I'm a Linux Gnuub and new to launchpad23:53
scott_evI'll figure it out23:53
bcurtiswxscott_ev: nice, which LoCo?23:54
scott_evAZ23:54
scott_evI'm trying to ge the team more involved in QA23:54
bcurtiswxscott_ev: even better to hear, LoCo teams are great fun (especially during bug jams)23:55
scott_evyup, and AZ is a real active team.  4 or 5 of us do the UWN23:56
scott_evwe do installfests, release parties23:56
scott_evI have fun23:56
bcurtiswxgreat23:57
scott_evbcazloco.com23:58

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