| davmor2 | Morning guys | 08:55 |
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| davmor2 | evand: Right I'm just burning the cd to run the wubi test | 08:59 |
| evand | good deal | 08:59 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson_: I had to drop of a power cable to keybuk he says that he has hardened the fix for partitioning so I'll test that after too :D | 09:00 |
| davmor2 | evand: so far so good :) Vista part part of wubi has worked :) | 09:12 |
| evand | did the CD eject? | 09:13 |
| davmor2 | no | 09:13 |
| evand | arr, ok. Can you follow up to that bug then? | 09:13 |
| davmor2 | evand: I'll try it in xp first see if it works there might just be a vista glitch :) | 09:15 |
| evand | sure | 09:15 |
| davmor2 | I'm guessing not but best to be sure :) | 09:15 |
| davmor2 | evand: ubiquity crashed | 09:53 |
| evand | hooray | 09:55 |
| evand | oh | 09:55 |
| evand | I think I already know about this | 09:55 |
| evand | can you pastebin your /var/log/installer/debug.log? | 09:56 |
| davmor2 | just getting the report up | 09:56 |
| davmor2 | ubiquity crashed with NameError in remove_extras() | 09:59 |
| evand | yeah, known bug | 10:01 |
| evand | I suspect anyway (would need to see the debug log to confirm) | 10:01 |
| davmor2 | evand: I'll upload it to a new bug and you can dupe it after :) | 10:02 |
| evand | ok | 10:02 |
| davmor2 | evand: bug 343587 | 10:03 |
| ubottu | Bug 343587 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/343587 is private | 10:03 |
| davmor2 | knocked it off provate | 10:04 |
| davmor2 | private even | 10:04 |
| davmor2 | brb | 10:04 |
| evand | marked it accordingly | 10:05 |
| evand | I take it the CD didn't eject in Windows XP either? | 10:05 |
| cjwatson_ | davmor2: cool | 10:08 |
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| davmor2 | evand: haven't tried it yet will do now though | 10:29 |
| davmor2 | evand: right xp up time to find out :) | 10:42 |
| davmor2 | evand: no eject on xp either :( | 10:51 |
| evand | ok | 10:51 |
| davmor2 | how do I find out which rev of wubi it is on today's iso is it just rev92? | 10:55 |
| davmor2 | evand:^ | 10:56 |
| evand | davmor2: Wubi will print it in the bottom left corner of the window | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | evand: Ta :) | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | evand: right left comments on the vista/win7 and cd eject bugs | 11:13 |
| evand | hrm, I guess now is as good a time as ever to subscribe to all the Wubi bugs | 11:14 |
| evand | thanks davmor2 | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | np's | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | evand: if you get the ubiquity issue fixed is there any chance of a re-spin so I can see if it will install fully? | 11:15 |
| evand | davmor2: sure, I don't think there would be any objection to that | 11:16 |
| davmor2 | cool :) | 11:16 |
| evand | it's going to be a bit though. Ubiquity needs to be prepared, uploaded, and built, then we need to wait for it to hit the archive before I trigger a CD build. | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | no probs. It would just be nice to confirm that it installs completely in vista now. Which I'm hoping means is fixed for win7 too :) | 11:19 |
| evand | oh, I definitely got Windows 7 working over the weekend | 11:24 |
| evand | but it would be very helpful for you to test Vista | 11:24 |
| evand | as I want to make sure the assumptions that I made about the Windows bootloader hold true for both. | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | :) | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | and we all know that assumption is the mother of all F**k ups ;) | 11:26 |
| evand | But I take it you got as far as ubiquity with Wubi in Windows Vista and then it crashed? | 11:26 |
| evand | heh | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | evand: yes it's rebooted and I've selected the ubuntu boot from the menu on xp and vista and then it dies about 40% ish through the automated install | 11:27 |
| davmor2 | you still can't remove wubi from the add/remove in windows then :( | 11:28 |
| evand | really? Granted, I haven't been using it in add/remove programs, but the wubi uninstaller gets called before wubi runs, and it's been seemingly working for me, in that it hasn't crashed | 11:33 |
| evand | Even though it's dying in ubiquity, the fact that you got that far means that my assumptions were correct. | 11:33 |
| evand | and that Vista works | 11:34 |
| evand | until someone finds bugs :) | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | evand: works fine from the cd remove just not from windows | 11:36 |
| evand | davmor2: Can you rephrase, I don't follow. | 11:37 |
| evand | ohhh | 11:38 |
| evand | hrm. | 11:38 |
| evand | davmor2: can you update https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/341605 with that bit of information? | 11:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 341605 in wubi "Wubi 9.04 uninstaller cannot delete the directory containing the uninstaller itself" [High,Confirmed] | 11:38 |
| davmor2 | evand: you can remove an installed version of wubi with no issues from the cd but not from windows add/remove | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | evand: that's the one I couldn't find :) | 11:39 |
| evand | indeed | 11:40 |
| davmor2 | evand: updated and I've added the wubi log too just for completeness :) | 11:46 |
| evand | thanks | 11:46 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: seems okay so far doing encrypted lvm over an existing lvm install and running the encrypted lvm at 50% of the drive just to try and stress it as much as possible :) | 12:24 |
| evand | cjwatson: Can you glance over the patch in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/335376 when you have a chance? I'd like a second pair of eyes on that before I commit it. | 12:42 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 335376 in ubiquity "[MASTER] ubiquity should warn users about unusable mounted partitions" [High,In progress] | 12:42 |
| evand | I've tested it and it's working for me. | 12:42 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r3102 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog init): | 13:38 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Start NetworkManager before ubiquity in only-ubiquity mode | 13:38 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: (LP: #340929). | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | evand: "detected the following disks have mounted partitions" => "detected that the ..." | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | evand: you should use a flag:!translate:thingy option (whatever it is, see po-debconf) to stop ${DISKS} ending up translatable | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | evand: does that tr work with busybox tr? I haven't checked, just seems like the sort of thing that might be shaky on portability | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | evand: otherwise looks fine | 14:07 |
| evand | noted; I'll check on the tr and make the other requested changes | 14:28 |
| evand | thanks! | 14:28 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: cjwatson * r749 ubuntu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): | 14:28 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: Issue an error message if two file systems are assigned the same label | 14:28 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: (LP: #320872). | 14:28 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: cjwatson * r750 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/fstab_hd_entries): Improve fstab comments for partitions without mount points (e.g. swap). | 14:42 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: cjwatson * r751 ubuntu/debian/po/ (63 files): debconf-updatepo | 14:46 |
| CIA-3 | partman-target: cjwatson * r752 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 58ubuntu5 | 14:49 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: evand * r138 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog debian/partman-base.templates init.d/parted): | 15:40 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: Ask to unmount mounted partitions before continuing | 15:40 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: (LP: #335376, #290415). | 15:40 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r3103 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/partman.py): Support the new partman/unmount_active question. | 15:58 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: evand * r139 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 129ubuntu2 | 16:02 |
| dandel | is it me or is the jaunty installer for windows broken? | 16:36 |
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| davmor2 | dandel: ubiquity is broken which means that wubi doesn't work either | 16:37 |
| dandel | ah | 16:37 |
| davmor2 | dandel: at which point is it breaking just to be sure :) | 16:38 |
| dandel | launching the program in vista | 16:38 |
| dandel | doesn't recognize the disk as a ubuntu disk on the 9.0x series | 16:38 |
| evand | dandel: are you running it from a recent 9.04 CD? | 16:39 |
| dandel | hmm... i'll try a new one once i get a log output on a kernel bug i'm currently working on. | 16:39 |
| evand | well, it's definitely broken | 16:40 |
| evand | but with a recent CD you *should* get as far as ubiquity (the desktop installer, which runs after the first reboot) | 16:40 |
| evand | then it will crash | 16:40 |
| dandel | ah | 16:40 |
| dandel | ubiquity is busty for me too. | 16:40 |
| evand | but that should be fixed in tomorrow's CD | 16:40 |
| evand | what's wrong with it? | 16:40 |
| dandel | *busted | 16:40 |
| dandel | won't let me set custom partition table | 16:41 |
| dandel | at least on 8.04.2 | 16:41 |
| dandel | ubiquity is actually breaking my hybernate. | 16:41 |
| dandel | dedicated 30gb partition, and it only sets about 1gb in swap size. | 16:42 |
| dandel | when, to get hibernate working, i need 3gb of swap | 16:42 |
| evand | can you elaborate on what you mean by it not letting you set a custom partition table? | 16:42 |
| evand | Is it crashing before partitioning? | 16:42 |
| dandel | yes. | 16:42 |
| dandel | i wish it'd let me do side by side installs ><; | 16:43 |
| dandel | that way i can leave a working install and test install. | 16:43 |
| evand | it does let you resize partitions. | 16:43 |
| dandel | it was locking up last i checked. | 16:44 |
| evand | hrm, lock ups are generally kernel bugs | 16:44 |
| dandel | the installer locked up and crashed. | 16:44 |
| dandel | not the kernel | 16:44 |
| evand | ahhh | 16:44 |
| dandel | kernel wise, i'm stable | 16:44 |
| evand | sorry, I thought you were referring to the system as a whole | 16:44 |
| evand | sure | 16:44 |
| evand | If you can reproduce this hang, please run the installer in debug mode (`ubiquity -d` in a terminal window) and attach /var/log/syslog, /var/log/partman, and /var/log/installer/debug to a new bug report. | 16:45 |
| dandel | right now i'm waiting on a special build to let me get the debug messages to the kernel mainline acpi team. | 16:45 |
| evand | sure | 16:45 |
| dandel | actually, it might be nicer to do custom partition setup within the windows installer dialog. | 16:46 |
| dandel | and just let ubiquity detect that. | 16:46 |
| evand | the windows installer isn't intended for the audience that would want a custom partition table | 16:47 |
| dandel | true, however it could detect the system memory windows has and set the 'recommended' as such. | 16:48 |
| cjwatson | our minimum swap size at the moment is 512MB. I'm not sure it's entirely obvious what to do when you have more memory than that; we probably ought to behave differently on servers where hibernate is not required and a gigabyte + of swap will probably result in extreme sloth under load | 16:49 |
| dandel | pfft... not a server. | 16:49 |
| dandel | it's a laptop and it came with 3gb of ram. | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | sure, but the partitioning recipes at the moment are the same for both | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | so we would need to work on that | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | assuming working manual partitioning it's of course possible to do it by hand, so we should look into why that fails (with the log files Evan asked for) | 16:50 |
| dandel | i have 2 systems with widely different ram configurations... so i know how often swap is used. | 16:52 |
| dandel | system a: 1gb of ram, desktop, with over a weeks worth of uptime, uses only about 200mb of swap. | 16:52 |
| dandel | system b, which is the laptop in question, i have yet to see it use over 10mb swap, except for when i accidentally tell it to go to hibernate. | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | sure, configurations and use patterns vary wildly though and these are pretty generic recipes. I do think your problem should be fixed; I'm thinking out loud about how to do it without breaking things for other people. | 16:55 |
| dandel | k. | 16:56 |
| dandel | it probably doesn't help the laptop is less than 1 year old either lol. | 16:56 |
| cjwatson | but obviously all of this would be much less of a problem if it didn't crash during manual partitioning. | 16:57 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r3104 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 17:01 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: grub-installer | 17:01 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: 1.36ubuntu3, partman-base 129ubuntu2, partman-target 58ubuntu5. | 17:01 |
| CIA-3 | ubiquity: evand * r3105 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.11.18 | 17:10 |
| CIA-3 | tasksel: cjwatson * r1402 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog tasksel.pl): | 17:20 |
| CIA-3 | tasksel: Avoid removing packages that are in other tasks that are still selected | 17:20 |
| CIA-3 | tasksel: or not displayed (LP: #150252). | 17:20 |
| CIA-3 | tasksel: cjwatson * r1403 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog ubuntu-tasks/mobile-live): Update Ubuntu tasks from seeds, adjusting description of mobile-live. | 17:27 |
| CIA-3 | tasksel: cjwatson * r1404 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.73ubuntu17 | 17:31 |
| maesx | hello, I would like to add a package cd of ubuntu-server | 22:27 |
| cjwatson | maesx: does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization help? | 22:31 |
| maesx | thanks | 22:33 |
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