[08:55] <davmor2> Morning guys
[08:59] <davmor2> evand: Right I'm just burning the cd to run the wubi test
[08:59] <evand> good deal
[09:00] <davmor2> cjwatson_: I had to drop of a power cable to keybuk he says that he has hardened the fix for partitioning so I'll test that after too :D
[09:12] <davmor2> evand: so far so good :)  Vista part part of wubi has worked :)
[09:13] <evand> did the CD eject?
[09:13] <davmor2> no
[09:13] <evand> arr, ok.  Can you follow up to that bug then?
[09:15] <davmor2> evand: I'll try it in xp first see if it works there might just be a vista glitch :)
[09:15] <evand> sure
[09:15] <davmor2> I'm guessing not but best to be sure :)
[09:53] <davmor2> evand: ubiquity crashed
[09:55] <evand> hooray
[09:55] <evand> oh
[09:55] <evand> I think I already know about this
[09:56] <evand> can you pastebin your /var/log/installer/debug.log?
[09:56] <davmor2> just getting the report up
[09:59] <davmor2> ubiquity crashed with NameError in remove_extras()
[10:01] <evand> yeah, known bug
[10:01] <evand> I suspect anyway (would need to see the debug log to confirm)
[10:02] <davmor2> evand: I'll upload it to a new bug and you can dupe it after :)
[10:02] <evand> ok
[10:03] <davmor2> evand: bug 343587
[10:03] <ubottu> Bug 343587 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/343587 is private
[10:04] <davmor2> knocked it off provate
[10:04] <davmor2> private even
[10:04] <davmor2> brb
[10:05] <evand> marked it accordingly
[10:05] <evand> I take it the CD didn't eject in Windows XP either?
[10:08] <cjwatson_> davmor2: cool
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[10:29] <davmor2> evand: haven't tried it yet will do now though
[10:42] <davmor2> evand: right xp up time to find out :)
[10:51] <davmor2> evand: no eject on xp either :(
[10:51] <evand> ok
[10:55] <davmor2> how do I find out which rev of wubi it is on today's iso is it just rev92?
[10:56] <davmor2> evand:^
[11:04] <evand> davmor2: Wubi will print it in the bottom left corner of the window
[11:04] <davmor2> evand: Ta :)
[11:13] <davmor2> evand: right left comments on the vista/win7 and cd eject bugs
[11:14] <evand> hrm, I guess now is as good a time as ever to subscribe to all the Wubi bugs
[11:14] <evand> thanks davmor2
[11:14] <davmor2> np's
[11:15] <davmor2> evand: if you get the ubiquity issue fixed is there any chance of a re-spin so I can see if it will install fully?
[11:16] <evand> davmor2: sure, I don't think there would be any objection to that
[11:16] <davmor2> cool :)
[11:17] <evand> it's going to be a bit though.  Ubiquity needs to be prepared, uploaded, and built, then we need to wait for it to hit the archive before I trigger a CD build.
[11:19] <davmor2> no probs.  It would just be nice to confirm that it installs completely in vista now.  Which I'm hoping means is fixed for win7 too :)
[11:24] <evand> oh, I definitely got Windows 7 working over the weekend
[11:24] <evand> but it would be very helpful for you to test Vista
[11:25] <evand> as I want to make sure the assumptions that I made about the Windows bootloader hold true for both.
[11:25] <davmor2> :)
[11:26] <davmor2> and we all know that assumption is the mother of all F**k ups ;)
[11:26] <evand> But I take it you got as far as ubiquity with Wubi in Windows Vista and then it crashed?
[11:26] <evand> heh
[11:27] <davmor2> evand: yes it's rebooted and I've selected the ubuntu boot from the menu on xp and vista and then it dies about 40% ish through the automated install
[11:28] <davmor2> you still can't remove wubi from the add/remove in windows then :(
[11:33] <evand> really?  Granted, I haven't been using it in add/remove programs, but the wubi uninstaller gets called before wubi runs, and it's been seemingly working for me, in that it hasn't crashed
[11:33] <evand> Even though it's dying in ubiquity, the fact that you got that far means that my assumptions were correct.
[11:34] <evand> and that Vista works
[11:34] <evand> until someone finds bugs :)
[11:36] <davmor2> evand: works fine from the cd remove just not from windows
[11:37] <evand> davmor2: Can you rephrase, I don't follow.
[11:38] <evand> ohhh
[11:38] <evand> hrm.
[11:38] <evand> davmor2: can you update https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/341605 with that bit of information?
[11:38] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 341605 in wubi "Wubi 9.04 uninstaller cannot delete the directory containing the uninstaller itself" [High,Confirmed]
[11:39] <davmor2> evand: you can remove an installed version of wubi with no issues from the cd but not from windows add/remove
[11:39] <davmor2> evand: that's the one I couldn't find :)
[11:40] <evand> indeed
[11:46] <davmor2> evand: updated and I've added the wubi log too just for completeness :)
[11:46] <evand> thanks
[12:24] <davmor2> cjwatson: seems okay so far doing encrypted lvm over an existing lvm install and running the encrypted lvm at 50% of the drive just to try and stress it as much as possible :)
[12:42] <evand> cjwatson: Can you glance over the patch in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/335376 when you have a chance?  I'd like a second pair of eyes on that before I commit it.
[12:42] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 335376 in ubiquity "[MASTER] ubiquity should warn users about unusable mounted partitions" [High,In progress]
[12:42] <evand> I've tested it and it's working for me.
[13:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3102 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog init):
[13:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Start NetworkManager before ubiquity in only-ubiquity mode
[13:38] <CIA-3> ubiquity: (LP: #340929).
[14:06] <cjwatson> evand: "detected the following disks have mounted partitions" => "detected that the ..."
[14:07] <cjwatson> evand: you should use a flag:!translate:thingy option (whatever it is, see po-debconf) to stop ${DISKS} ending up translatable
[14:07] <cjwatson> evand: does that tr work with busybox tr? I haven't checked, just seems like the sort of thing that might be shaky on portability
[14:07] <cjwatson> evand: otherwise looks fine
[14:28] <evand> noted; I'll check on the tr and make the other requested changes
[14:28] <evand> thanks!
[14:28] <CIA-3> partman-target: cjwatson * r749 ubuntu/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[14:28] <CIA-3> partman-target: Issue an error message if two file systems are assigned the same label
[14:28] <CIA-3> partman-target: (LP: #320872).
[14:42] <CIA-3> partman-target: cjwatson * r750 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/fstab_hd_entries): Improve fstab comments for partitions without mount points (e.g. swap).
[14:46] <CIA-3> partman-target: cjwatson * r751 ubuntu/debian/po/ (63 files): debconf-updatepo
[14:49] <CIA-3> partman-target: cjwatson * r752 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 58ubuntu5
[15:40] <CIA-3> partman-base: evand * r138 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog debian/partman-base.templates init.d/parted):
[15:40] <CIA-3> partman-base: Ask to unmount mounted partitions before continuing
[15:40] <CIA-3> partman-base: (LP: #335376, #290415).
[15:58] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3103 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/partman.py): Support the new partman/unmount_active question.
[16:02] <CIA-3> partman-base: evand * r139 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 129ubuntu2
[16:36] <dandel> is it me or is the jaunty installer for windows broken?
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[16:37] <davmor2> dandel: ubiquity is broken which means that wubi doesn't work either
[16:37] <dandel> ah
[16:38] <davmor2> dandel: at which point is it breaking just to be sure :)
[16:38] <dandel> launching the program in vista
[16:38] <dandel> doesn't recognize the disk as a ubuntu disk on the 9.0x series
[16:39] <evand> dandel: are you running it from a recent 9.04 CD?
[16:39] <dandel> hmm... i'll try a new one once i get a log output on a kernel bug i'm currently working on.
[16:40] <evand> well, it's definitely broken
[16:40] <evand> but with a recent CD you *should* get as far as ubiquity (the desktop installer, which runs after the first reboot)
[16:40] <evand> then it will crash
[16:40] <dandel> ah
[16:40] <dandel> ubiquity is busty for me too.
[16:40] <evand> but that should be fixed in tomorrow's CD
[16:40] <evand> what's wrong with it?
[16:40] <dandel> *busted
[16:41] <dandel> won't let me set custom partition table
[16:41] <dandel> at least on 8.04.2
[16:41] <dandel> ubiquity is actually breaking my hybernate.
[16:42] <dandel> dedicated 30gb partition, and it only sets about 1gb in swap size.
[16:42] <dandel> when, to get hibernate working, i need 3gb of swap
[16:42] <evand> can you elaborate on what you mean by it not letting you set a custom partition table?
[16:42] <evand> Is it crashing before partitioning?
[16:42] <dandel> yes.
[16:43] <dandel> i wish it'd let me do side by side installs ><;
[16:43] <dandel> that way i can leave a working install and test install.
[16:43] <evand> it does let you resize partitions.
[16:44] <dandel> it was locking up last i checked.
[16:44] <evand> hrm, lock ups are generally kernel bugs
[16:44] <dandel> the installer locked up and crashed.
[16:44] <dandel> not the kernel
[16:44] <evand> ahhh
[16:44] <dandel> kernel wise, i'm stable
[16:44] <evand> sorry, I thought you were referring to the system as a whole
[16:44] <evand> sure
[16:45] <evand> If you can reproduce this hang, please run the installer in debug mode (`ubiquity -d` in a terminal window) and attach /var/log/syslog, /var/log/partman, and /var/log/installer/debug to a new bug report.
[16:45] <dandel> right now i'm waiting on a special build to let me get the debug messages to the kernel mainline acpi team.
[16:45] <evand> sure
[16:46] <dandel> actually, it might be nicer to do custom partition setup within the windows installer dialog.
[16:46] <dandel> and just let ubiquity detect that.
[16:47] <evand> the windows installer isn't intended for the audience that would want a custom partition table
[16:48] <dandel> true, however it could detect the system memory windows has and set the 'recommended' as such.
[16:49] <cjwatson> our minimum swap size at the moment is 512MB. I'm not sure it's entirely obvious what to do when you have more memory than that; we probably ought to behave differently on servers where hibernate is not required and a gigabyte + of swap will probably result in extreme sloth under load
[16:49] <dandel> pfft... not a server.
[16:49] <dandel> it's a laptop and it came with 3gb of ram.
[16:49] <cjwatson> sure, but the partitioning recipes at the moment are the same for both
[16:49] <cjwatson> so we would need to work on that
[16:50] <cjwatson> assuming working manual partitioning it's of course possible to do it by hand, so we should look into why that fails (with the log files Evan asked for)
[16:52] <dandel> i have 2 systems with widely different ram configurations... so i know how often swap is used.
[16:52] <dandel> system a: 1gb of ram, desktop, with over a weeks worth of uptime, uses only about 200mb of swap.
[16:53] <dandel> system b, which is the laptop in question, i have yet to see it use over 10mb swap, except for when i accidentally tell it to go to hibernate.
[16:55] <cjwatson> sure, configurations and use patterns vary wildly though and these are pretty generic recipes. I do think your problem should be fixed; I'm thinking out loud about how to do it without breaking things for other people.
[16:56] <dandel> k.
[16:56] <dandel> it probably doesn't help the laptop is less than 1 year old either lol.
[16:57] <cjwatson> but obviously all of this would be much less of a problem if it didn't crash during manual partitioning.
[17:01] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3104 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[17:01] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: grub-installer
[17:01] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 1.36ubuntu3, partman-base 129ubuntu2, partman-target 58ubuntu5.
[17:10] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3105 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.11.18
[17:20] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1402 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog tasksel.pl):
[17:20] <CIA-3> tasksel: Avoid removing packages that are in other tasks that are still selected
[17:20] <CIA-3> tasksel: or not displayed (LP: #150252).
[17:27] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1403 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog ubuntu-tasks/mobile-live): Update Ubuntu tasks from seeds, adjusting description of mobile-live.
[17:31] <CIA-3> tasksel: cjwatson * r1404 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.73ubuntu17
[22:27] <maesx> hello, I would like to add a package cd of ubuntu-server
[22:31] <cjwatson> maesx: does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization help?
[22:33] <maesx> thanks