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| knome | somebody here for the cooperation meeting? | 15:55 |
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| knome | anybody for the cooperation meeting? let's start in a few minutes. | 16:00 |
| cody-somerville | I'm here | 16:00 |
| * charlie-tca waves | 16:02 | |
| knome | right, so anybody *not* from xubuntu here? | 16:03 |
| * tgm4883 isn't from xubuntu | 16:03 | |
| knome | ok. let's wait for a few more minutes for people to arrive | 16:03 |
| tgm4883 | not sure what happens in this meeting, but Mythbuntu people are here | 16:04 |
| knome | tgm4883, you can see the agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cooperation | 16:04 |
| tgm4883 | knome, thanks | 16:04 |
| knome | let's start then, shall we | 16:05 |
| knome | #startmeeting | 16:05 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 11:05. The chair is knome. | 16:05 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:05 |
| knome | So we're here to discuss about the things raised up in UDS Jaunty | 16:06 |
| knome | We have a set of notes collected from the meeting on the wiki | 16:07 |
| knome | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cooperation | 16:07 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cooperation | 16:07 |
| knome | You can also see through the agenda we have today from the wiki | 16:07 |
| knome | [TOPIC] Making and keeping contact lists up-to-date | 16:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Making and keeping contact lists up-to-date | 16:07 |
| knome | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams | 16:08 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams | 16:08 |
| knome | there is a contact/team list in the ubuntu wiki, which happens to be quite outdated. | 16:08 |
| knome | not all teams are even listed in it. | 16:09 |
| * tgm4883 will get mythbuntu on there an up to date | 16:10 | |
| knome | what happens, when somebody wants to contact a team or several teams? where can he find the team leader contact information? | 16:10 |
| knome | [ACTION] tgm4883 will add MythBuntu to the Teams list | 16:10 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: tgm4883 will add MythBuntu to the Teams list | 16:10 |
| knome | this is also not the only place where we have outdated information | 16:11 |
| knome | however as we have so little people taking part, i'll send a mail about this to the ubuntu-devel mailing list. | 16:12 |
| knome | [ACTION] knome mails ubuntu-devel@ ML about keeping the Teams list up-to-date | 16:12 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: knome mails ubuntu-devel@ ML about keeping the Teams list up-to-date | 16:12 |
| knome | [TOPIC] Making functional teams healthy again | 16:12 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Making functional teams healthy again | 16:12 |
| knome | there was also discussion about the unhealthy functional teams at uds | 16:14 |
| knome | especially artwork team was raised up | 16:14 |
| knome | i've been hanging aroud their IRC channel a while and i can't say it's unhealthy, but it's very ubuntu (desktop) centric. | 16:15 |
| knome | there isn't really any conversation about the xubuntu, kubuntu or mythbuntu artwork | 16:15 |
| knome | any ideas how to get cooperation working better? | 16:16 |
| knome | how can we contact the artists within several flavor teams? | 16:16 |
| Riddell | in kubuntu we are happy using KDE artwork for the most part | 16:16 |
| tgm4883 | well for the most part, mythbuntu artwork consists of themes for mythtv, which we have been having conversations about in our own channel | 16:16 |
| tgm4883 | We felt it better this way as mythtv themes have zero relevance in other distros | 16:17 |
| knome | Riddell, what about countdown banners or wallpapers? | 16:17 |
| Riddell | knome: wallpapers are from KDE. countdown banners we're done separately before | 16:18 |
| knome | tgm4883, i see your point there. we also develop and discuss about xubuntu artwork on our own channel, but i've asked for some feedback for them on the artwork channel | 16:19 |
| knome | Riddell, right. have your artists followed the ubuntu-artwork list and looked at what they were doing with the banners | 16:20 |
| knome | i feel the artwork channel should be a place to discuss every piece of artwork made | 16:20 |
| knome | and for artists, a place to get feedback from other artists, not only developers | 16:21 |
| knome | Riddell, tgm4883: can you think of pointing your artists to show off their stuff to ubuntu-artwork list or irc channel? | 16:22 |
| knome | personally i'd like to see what's going on because we could greatly benefit from the work of others | 16:22 |
| tgm4883 | i'll point our art team to show their work in the ubuntu-artwork channel, there are only two members on that team so I don't guarentee that they will develop the themes in that channel though | 16:23 |
| tgm4883 | but i'll get them to at least show their work | 16:23 |
| knome | [IDEA] Team leaders to encourage artists to show off their artwork in the artwork team IRC channel and/or mailing list | 16:24 |
| MootBot | IDEA received: Team leaders to encourage artists to show off their artwork in the artwork team IRC channel and/or mailing list | 16:24 |
| knome | tgm4883, right. thanks. i think that's valuable. | 16:24 |
| Riddell | knome: we don't have artists | 16:24 |
| knome | Riddell, right. so you would greatly benefit if the artwrok team could work on several flavors rather than sticking to just one? | 16:25 |
| knome | *the people in the artwork team | 16:26 |
| knome | i remember somebody saying that ubuntu studio is quite full of artists and they don't have tasks to work on. maybe they could help you. | 16:27 |
| knome | Riddell, do we agree? :) | 16:27 |
| tgm4883 | well if Riddell doesn't want there help, i'm sure we can find something for them to do ;) | 16:28 |
| knome | right. | 16:28 |
| knome | [ACTION] team leader to encourage artists to work cross-flavorwise. | 16:28 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: team leader to encourage artists to work cross-flavorwise. | 16:28 |
| knome | [ACTION] Team leaders to inform the artwork team for job opporunities (Ubuntu Wanted) | 16:29 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: Team leaders to inform the artwork team for job opporunities (Ubuntu Wanted) | 16:29 |
| knome | somebody has any comments? | 16:29 |
| knome | ok, let's move to the next item. | 16:30 |
| knome | [TOPIC] Restarting art.ubuntu.com | 16:31 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Restarting art.ubuntu.com | 16:31 |
| knome | again, i'm referring to the UDS session | 16:31 |
| knome | i don't think we can get really anywhere here as we don't have many artists here, so let's skip this topic if nobody wants to say anything? | 16:32 |
| knome | [TOPIC] Mailing list for flavor cooperation | 16:33 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Mailing list for flavor cooperation | 16:33 |
| knome | again, i'm referring to UDS session... | 16:33 |
| knome | when we had the session, we decided to set up a mailing list for all kind of cross-flavor information and cooperation things | 16:34 |
| knome | Luis Guimera (luisbg) volunteered to create the list, but i don't know about the current state | 16:35 |
| knome | [ACTION] knome to poke luisbg about the cooperation list | 16:35 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: knome to poke luisbg about the cooperation list | 16:35 |
| knome | [TOPIC] Monthly coordination meetings | 16:36 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Monthly coordination meetings | 16:36 |
| knome | we had a discussion about monthly coordination meetings like this with Emmet (persia) | 16:37 |
| knome | i see quite a little sense to pick any dates here as we have such a lousy participation | 16:37 |
| knome | i personally think we would benefit from this kinds of meetings | 16:38 |
| knome | if we had enough people to participate and from different teams | 16:38 |
| knome | any comments on this? | 16:39 |
| cody-somerville | What would we talk about? | 16:40 |
| knome | any arisen issues and needs for cooperation. | 16:40 |
| knome | decisions which would affect other flavors | 16:40 |
| knome | decisions meaning changing something in a package | 16:41 |
| knome | i talked with robbie williamson from foundations and he also took note that they could try to inform about things maybe broken a bit better | 16:42 |
| knome | the meeting could be a good place to discuss those | 16:42 |
| knome | it's also valuable to know how things are coming up on a different flavor | 16:43 |
| knome | maybe there is something they might need a helping hand but are not quite sure where to ask | 16:43 |
| knome | if you look at the wiki page, there is also some issues that arose in the uds session | 16:44 |
| knome | any comments? | 16:45 |
| knome | right... | 16:47 |
| knome | [ACTION] knome will talk with people and set up a new meeting for april if it seems worthwhile | 16:49 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: knome will talk with people and set up a new meeting for april if it seems worthwhile | 16:49 |
| knome | [TOPIC] Any other arisen discussions | 16:50 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any other arisen discussions | 16:50 |
| knome | anything you want to say? | 16:50 |
| knome | i talked with _MMA_ and i see this is something people have tried to get up earlier. | 16:52 |
| knome | maybe we can't get it working now either or maybe we can. | 16:53 |
| knome | let's end this meeting as it's starting to be a monologue. | 16:53 |
| knome | thanks for participating and sorry it turned out that there was not much people to have discussions. | 16:54 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 11:54. | 16:54 |
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