=== txwikinger3 is now known as txwikinger === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === asac_ is now known as asac [15:55] somebody here for the cooperation meeting? [16:00] anybody for the cooperation meeting? let's start in a few minutes. [16:00] I'm here [16:02] * charlie-tca waves [16:03] right, so anybody *not* from xubuntu here? [16:03] * tgm4883 isn't from xubuntu [16:03] ok. let's wait for a few more minutes for people to arrive [16:04] not sure what happens in this meeting, but Mythbuntu people are here [16:04] tgm4883, you can see the agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cooperation [16:04] knome, thanks [16:05] let's start then, shall we [16:05] #startmeeting [16:05] Meeting started at 11:05. The chair is knome. [16:05] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:06] So we're here to discuss about the things raised up in UDS Jaunty [16:07] We have a set of notes collected from the meeting on the wiki [16:07] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cooperation [16:07] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cooperation [16:07] You can also see through the agenda we have today from the wiki [16:07] [TOPIC] Making and keeping contact lists up-to-date [16:07] New Topic: Making and keeping contact lists up-to-date [16:08] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams [16:08] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams [16:08] there is a contact/team list in the ubuntu wiki, which happens to be quite outdated. [16:09] not all teams are even listed in it. [16:10] * tgm4883 will get mythbuntu on there an up to date [16:10] what happens, when somebody wants to contact a team or several teams? where can he find the team leader contact information? [16:10] [ACTION] tgm4883 will add MythBuntu to the Teams list [16:10] ACTION received: tgm4883 will add MythBuntu to the Teams list [16:11] this is also not the only place where we have outdated information [16:12] however as we have so little people taking part, i'll send a mail about this to the ubuntu-devel mailing list. [16:12] [ACTION] knome mails ubuntu-devel@ ML about keeping the Teams list up-to-date [16:12] ACTION received: knome mails ubuntu-devel@ ML about keeping the Teams list up-to-date [16:12] [TOPIC] Making functional teams healthy again [16:12] New Topic: Making functional teams healthy again [16:14] there was also discussion about the unhealthy functional teams at uds [16:14] especially artwork team was raised up [16:15] i've been hanging aroud their IRC channel a while and i can't say it's unhealthy, but it's very ubuntu (desktop) centric. [16:15] there isn't really any conversation about the xubuntu, kubuntu or mythbuntu artwork [16:16] any ideas how to get cooperation working better? [16:16] how can we contact the artists within several flavor teams? [16:16] in kubuntu we are happy using KDE artwork for the most part [16:16] well for the most part, mythbuntu artwork consists of themes for mythtv, which we have been having conversations about in our own channel [16:17] We felt it better this way as mythtv themes have zero relevance in other distros [16:17] Riddell, what about countdown banners or wallpapers? [16:18] knome: wallpapers are from KDE. countdown banners we're done separately before [16:19] tgm4883, i see your point there. we also develop and discuss about xubuntu artwork on our own channel, but i've asked for some feedback for them on the artwork channel [16:20] Riddell, right. have your artists followed the ubuntu-artwork list and looked at what they were doing with the banners [16:20] i feel the artwork channel should be a place to discuss every piece of artwork made [16:21] and for artists, a place to get feedback from other artists, not only developers [16:22] Riddell, tgm4883: can you think of pointing your artists to show off their stuff to ubuntu-artwork list or irc channel? [16:22] personally i'd like to see what's going on because we could greatly benefit from the work of others [16:23] i'll point our art team to show their work in the ubuntu-artwork channel, there are only two members on that team so I don't guarentee that they will develop the themes in that channel though [16:23] but i'll get them to at least show their work [16:24] [IDEA] Team leaders to encourage artists to show off their artwork in the artwork team IRC channel and/or mailing list [16:24] IDEA received: Team leaders to encourage artists to show off their artwork in the artwork team IRC channel and/or mailing list [16:24] tgm4883, right. thanks. i think that's valuable. [16:24] knome: we don't have artists [16:25] Riddell, right. so you would greatly benefit if the artwrok team could work on several flavors rather than sticking to just one? [16:26] *the people in the artwork team [16:27] i remember somebody saying that ubuntu studio is quite full of artists and they don't have tasks to work on. maybe they could help you. [16:27] Riddell, do we agree? :) [16:28] well if Riddell doesn't want there help, i'm sure we can find something for them to do ;) [16:28] right. [16:28] [ACTION] team leader to encourage artists to work cross-flavorwise. [16:28] ACTION received: team leader to encourage artists to work cross-flavorwise. [16:29] [ACTION] Team leaders to inform the artwork team for job opporunities (Ubuntu Wanted) [16:29] ACTION received: Team leaders to inform the artwork team for job opporunities (Ubuntu Wanted) [16:29] somebody has any comments? [16:30] ok, let's move to the next item. [16:31] [TOPIC] Restarting art.ubuntu.com [16:31] New Topic: Restarting art.ubuntu.com [16:31] again, i'm referring to the UDS session [16:32] i don't think we can get really anywhere here as we don't have many artists here, so let's skip this topic if nobody wants to say anything? [16:33] [TOPIC] Mailing list for flavor cooperation [16:33] New Topic: Mailing list for flavor cooperation [16:33] again, i'm referring to UDS session... [16:34] when we had the session, we decided to set up a mailing list for all kind of cross-flavor information and cooperation things [16:35] Luis Guimera (luisbg) volunteered to create the list, but i don't know about the current state [16:35] [ACTION] knome to poke luisbg about the cooperation list [16:35] ACTION received: knome to poke luisbg about the cooperation list [16:36] [TOPIC] Monthly coordination meetings [16:36] New Topic: Monthly coordination meetings [16:37] we had a discussion about monthly coordination meetings like this with Emmet (persia) [16:37] i see quite a little sense to pick any dates here as we have such a lousy participation [16:38] i personally think we would benefit from this kinds of meetings [16:38] if we had enough people to participate and from different teams [16:39] any comments on this? [16:40] What would we talk about? [16:40] any arisen issues and needs for cooperation. [16:40] decisions which would affect other flavors [16:41] decisions meaning changing something in a package [16:42] i talked with robbie williamson from foundations and he also took note that they could try to inform about things maybe broken a bit better [16:42] the meeting could be a good place to discuss those [16:43] it's also valuable to know how things are coming up on a different flavor [16:43] maybe there is something they might need a helping hand but are not quite sure where to ask [16:44] if you look at the wiki page, there is also some issues that arose in the uds session [16:45] any comments? [16:47] right... [16:49] [ACTION] knome will talk with people and set up a new meeting for april if it seems worthwhile [16:49] ACTION received: knome will talk with people and set up a new meeting for april if it seems worthwhile [16:50] [TOPIC] Any other arisen discussions [16:50] New Topic: Any other arisen discussions [16:50] anything you want to say? [16:52] i talked with _MMA_ and i see this is something people have tried to get up earlier. [16:53] maybe we can't get it working now either or maybe we can. [16:53] let's end this meeting as it's starting to be a monologue. [16:54] thanks for participating and sorry it turned out that there was not much people to have discussions. [16:54] #endmeeting [16:54] Meeting finished at 11:54. === fader is now known as fader|lunch === beuno_ is now known as beuno === fader|lunch is now known as fader === beuno_ is now known as beuno === lionel_ is now known as lionel === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === Adri2000_ is now known as Adri2000 === j_ack_ is now known as j_ack === fader is now known as fader|away