[01:48] <jack__> lool, ogra, or NCommander... Are you around?
[03:01] <NCommander> jack__, I am
[03:02] <jack__> Good to see you here...
[03:02] <jack__> Have you read through the above?
[03:03] <jack__> Is this a discussion we can have by email?
[03:32] <jack__> NCommander?
[03:32] <NCommander> jack__, which discussion specifically?
[03:33] <NCommander> oh
[03:33] <jack__> I guess you cannot see the multiple posts above... that said, David Mandala sent me here as he is on vacation, to get some quick answers re: the i.MX515 port...
[03:33] <NCommander> right, no, I saw that
[03:34] <jack__> I am leading a hardware project for a major CHina company that has just committed to Freescale, and I'm the guy who has to coordinate the software + hardware decisions and dev plan from our side. 
[03:34] <NCommander> Righjt
[03:34] <jack__> I have a small flurry of specific questions.
[03:35] <NCommander> Sure
[03:35] <NCommander> I can answer some questions.
[03:37] <jack__> My first is to what degree is the graphics being run in the OpenGL ES 2.0 and OpenVG1.1 cores?... what degree of optimization? Enough to support Compiz, or a subset of Compiz functionalities?... or, amd I just dreaming?
[03:38] <NCommander> At the moment, there is no hardware acceleration support on the MX51
[03:38] <jack__> Actually, I guess my more fundamental question is if we're talking about Netbook Remix here, or Desktop?
[03:39] <NCommander> huh?
[03:39] <jack__> OKay... "at the moment." Is the dev roadmap aimed at making this a priority for 2009?
[03:40] <jack__> I do not even know what version/flavor of "Ubuntu" is being ported, my friend. This project landed on my desk 3-days ago.
[03:40] <NCommander> jack__, I'm not sure if I can answer that, I recommend asking David on the roadmap question.
[03:40] <NCommander> As for the version and favor
[03:40] <NCommander> The 9.04 release of Ubuntu will be the first with the ARM port (development snapshots are available)
[03:40] <jack__> I'll do that. He says he'll have occasional email while traveling...
[03:41] <jack__> So, it's the Desktop flavor...
[03:41] <jack__> What's the barroer to then porting the Netbook Remix flavor?... substantial?... trivial?
[03:41] <NCommander> Well, there is one repository for Ubuntu, which contains the desktop, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.
[03:41] <NCommander> UNR is compiled for ARM
[03:42] <jack__> Okay... I knew that much... :-) I'm asking for a i.MX515-specific answer
[03:42] <NCommander> All packages expect the kernel are shared across all supported boards
[03:43] <jack__> So... once the port of 9.04 is done, the others are "automatically" also done?
[03:43] <NCommander> Well, all the variants exist in our repos, so pretty much.
[03:43] <NCommander> jack__, how much do you know about Ubuntu itself?
[03:44] <jack__> I'm a Mac guy who has flirted with Ubuntu on and off as a user for several years... have an old Dell laptop here wiht Hardy Heron on it.
[03:44] <NCommander> ah
[03:44] <jack__> So... the basics, fomr that perspective. But..
[03:45] <jack__> I am also a CE industru project manager who has more than a dozen PC architecture designs, including a Linux PowerPC architecture on my resume. I know how PCs work and how the parts all fit together wiht the software.
[03:45] <NCommander> right
[03:46] <jack__> I'm just at that "first few days" on this one and am tryign to get dialed into the variables I'll have to be chasing.
[03:46] <NCommander> sure
[03:46] <jack__> We'll be doing all of the non-reference low-level device code from our side.
[03:46] <NCommander> I can understand that.
[03:47] <jack__> Give me an email address and I'll email a PDF showing the product we're discussing. Or, email me at jack@aboutjack.com and I'll reply.
[03:47] <NCommander> jack__, michael.casadevall@canonical.com
[03:48] <jack__> Done.
[03:49] <jack__> Obviously: Confidential
[03:49] <NCommander> jack__, sure
[03:50] <jack__> I'll hang around for any reactions...
[03:51] <NCommander> jack__, check your private messages ;-)
[03:51] <jack__> LOL... I don't know how.
[03:52] <NCommander> jack__, what IRC client are you using?
[03:52] <jack__> Nevermind... I figured it out.
[08:45] <lool> jack__: We have no 2D/3D acceleration at the moment; we rely on FSL for drivers
[08:56] <jack__> Hi lool
[08:57] <jack__> Yes, I had an extensive private chat with NComander earlier...
[08:57] <jack__> I've since gone back and forth with the Freescale guys again, and we're going to tackle the OPen GL ES and OpenVG 1.1 drivers ourselves
[08:58] <jack__> We'll very, very likely draw Caonnical into this effort, too.
[08:58] <lool> jack__: Nice
[08:58] <jack__> Michael says you are more familiar with the status of UNR?
[08:59] <jack__> In a perfect world, once the kernel work is done to get 9.04 running on the i.MX515, we could move it over and get UNR running on the chip.
[08:59] <jack__> Your opinion of the challenge involved?
[09:00] <jack__> Yes. I know we need the graphics core drivers, first.
[09:00] <jack__> I'm aiming about 10 seasoned low-level Linux guys at that problem this week.
[09:01] <jack__> Me thinks that a 10.2 inch 1024x600 LCD screen 1GHz ARM Cortex product would be much more usable and "correct" with UNR, not 9.04
[09:02] <jack__> Got your email. WIll switch to there.
=== asac_ is now known as asac
=== matt_c is now known as Prometheus
=== Prometheus is now known as matt_c
=== fta_ is now known as fta
[21:31] <fta> i'm having a problem with the mid lpia image (a6) on a samsung nc10.
[21:33] <fta> just after squashfs is loaded, i get a bunch of "FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdb)", and it stops there
[23:19] <fta> the unr image worked just fine.