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LjLwatch NavadeHo00:28
LjLwas abusing the floodbots by ctcp00:28
LjLnow joined #k and #x00:28
Seeker`not in either on them00:29
Seeker`*of00:29
LjLhe just ctcpd me now00:29
Seeker`eugh, just hit channel number limit00:29
Seeker`why is cody opped in #x?00:30
LjLbecause he's the founder?00:30
Seeker`I thought you weren't meant to sit there opped00:30
LjLhe'll have forgot00:30
LjLi dunno00:30
LjL[01:31:36] <NavadeHo> are u a human or bot?00:31
LjLr u a idiot or a fool00:31
Seeker`heh00:32
Seeker`just reply with "Ljlbot v3.0"00:32
LjL[01:32:26] <LjL> how's about you mind your own business on who's a human and who's not, and shove your CTCPs where-knows-i00:33
LjL[01:32:56] <NavadeHo> okay, thnx for the answers00:33
LjL[01:33:03] <NavadeHo> I thought you were human00:33
Seeker`...00:33
Seeker`actually "Ljlbot v3.0; Please enter command:" would be interesting00:34
LjLSeeker`: i have no version reply00:34
LjLand it would hurt my client to have one00:34
LjLreally00:34
Seeker`no, when he asked you if you were a bot or a human00:34
LjLi had already replied to him00:35
Seeker`yeah, i knos00:35
Seeker`*know00:35
Seeker`what did he do to get the ban?00:36
LjLSeeker`: resumed CTCP'ing floodbot.00:36
Seeker`ah00:37
LjLnot that banning from #k helps with that00:37
LjLbut i see no reason why he should be left in there, either00:37
* genii prepares an extra-strong vat of coffee00:52
* LjL sips it while genii isn't looking00:52
geniiLjL: Heh... it's for general consumption anyhow :)00:53
Seeker`:O00:54
ubottuRabbitbunny called the ops in #ubuntu ()01:18
geniiMyrtti: Did you ever manage to get a keyboard/screen for your headless box?01:27
* genii sips02:12
tritiumHi genii.02:13
geniitritium: Heya02:14
tritiumHow are you, genii?02:15
geniitritium: Tired but well. Had a problem regarding .pinerc,imap server which is still not suitably resolved. But luckily there's coffee, and beer02:17
tritiumgenii: I'm tired too.  I think I'll sleep early tonight.02:23
* genii fluffs tritium's pillows and puts him on decaf02:24
tritiumgenii: thanks :)  Good night!02:24
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()02:46
ubottuFlannel called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (LjL)02:47
Flannelcyclic aliases!02:47
LjLAmaranth: that was... lower than low :P02:47
geniiDid someone alias nvidia-beta to ops?02:47
Flannel!-nvidia-beta02:48
ubottunvidia-beta is <alias> amaranth - added by gnomefreak on 2006-10-22 22:12:5402:48
Flannel!-amaranth02:48
ubottuamaranth aliases: nvidia-beta - added by Amaranth on 2008-01-16 10:34:19 - last edited by LjL on 2009-03-15 02:10:5002:48
Flannel!-amaranth-#ubuntu-offtopic02:48
ubottuamaranth is <alias> ops - added by Amaranth on 2009-03-11 01:35:23 - last edited by Amaranth on 2009-03-15 02:10:5002:48
Amaranthoh, hahahahahahahahahahaha02:48
Amaranththat's because !amaranth used to be how to get to my PPA02:48
Amaranth!-cookies02:53
ubottucookies has no aliases - added by Flannel on 2008-07-16 21:18:36 - last edited by Flannel on 2008-07-23 12:27:4302:53
AmaranthHrm, thought I added that one02:53
FlannelWhat's wrong with cookies?02:53
Flannel!cookie02:53
ubottuWow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!02:53
Flannel!-cookie02:53
ubottucookie is <alias> helpersnack - added by jussi01 on 2008-06-28 20:20:34 - last edited by jussi01 on 2008-06-28 20:20:5202:53
geniiNothing!02:53
FlannelAmaranth: Suppose not.  Neener neener.02:53
* genii wonders if the bot will truly ever forget !amaranth02:54
=== Amaranth is now known as bluesmoke
=== bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth
* genii brews a pot of coffee for the channel before /away04:02
AmaranthFlannel: Seriously messed up people04:33
FlannelAmaranth: Yeah.  We need to put up a sign "No social deviants allowed"04:34
AmaranthFlannel: There goes half the channel04:34
FlannelAmaranth: Yeah, but the channel would be 200% better!04:34
FlannelEh, I'll even let people who are 50% deviant in there.  But once you get above that....04:36
Myrttigenii: no05:26
Myrttianyone awake?05:28
MyrttiWARNING: 05:28
Myrttiphantomcircuit!phantomc@adsl-75-37-27-1.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net may be evading  the ban on phantomcircuit!n=phantomc@netcollect.org05:28
FlannelMyrtti: Morning.05:31
MyrttiI wonder would poking Mez help at all05:53
* Myrtti pokes Mez with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™05:53
Myrtti*SQUEEEAK*05:53
Myrttiah.hmmm05:56
Myrttinice stress reliever05:56
MyrttiI think I'll do that again05:56
* Myrtti pokes Mez with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™05:56
Myrtti*SQUEEEAK*05:56
Myrttianyway, Mez, when you come back from your coma, could you please look at the bantracker and check the ban on netcollect.org and phantomcircuit and put it in your agenda to tell us your thoughts. Thanks.05:57
Myrttiok, time for a shower06:13
Myrttihehheh06:22
MyrttiMirv just found the approval of the Finnish loco06:22
Myrtti<Mirv> sabdfl: yes, hi. I came from a trip 30 minutes ago, our hamster is killing itself but otherwise I'm here06:25
Myrtti<sabdfl> that's the best entry to a cc meeting i've ever seen06:26
FlannelMyrtti: Where is this?06:29
Flannelor, when, rather06:29
Myrttihttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/02/19/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt06:29
FlannelOh, nevermind.06:29
FlannelAh, old.06:29
MyrttiMirv just commented that the approval was made in a way that they just mentioned in the next meeting "oh, we haven't taken that from the agenda yet"06:30
Myrttiit's not obvious in that log06:30
Myrttithat's about and around the same time that I found the channel06:30
Myrttiand started to use Ubuntu06:32
ubottuIn #ubuntu, o0Chris0o said: !ops Deoderant is causing a disturbance in #ubuntu, keeps spamming06:45
Mez@btlogin07:04
MezMyrtti: I dont see why the ban shouldnt have been lifted, though I havent reviewed the bans from -ops07:06
MyrttiMez: I didn't touch it since you were active at the time I started clearing up the bans and didn't want to step on your toes07:13
Myrttigood deed of today done.07:17
Myrttihttp://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staog07:18
Myrttithough, the category for computer viruses in general is a bit funny07:18
Myrttihttp://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luokka:Tietokonevirukset07:18
Myrtti:-D07:18
Myrtti28% of the worlds computer viruses are for linux ;-)07:19
MezMyrtti: feel free to tread on my toes at any point you want.07:30
Mezexcept in person07:30
Mezcause I have easily-breakable toes07:30
FlannelMyrtti: drink more milk!07:31
Flanneler, Mez07:31
MezFlannel: it's more to do with the arthritis than any calcium deficiency07:31
FlannelMez: Just chop them off!  then you can't break them.07:32
Flannelyep.07:32
MyrttiI hate cleaning07:34
MyrttiFlannel: your discussion makes me want to toss in http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ 08:20
FlannelMyrtti: Indeed, indeed.08:20
FlannelMyrtti: Of course, the conversation has gotten to the point where Grant-A is going to try and make stupid wild claims now08:21
Myrttilol, it's not in /usr/share/common-licenses/08:22
MyrttiBWAHAHAHA08:24
Myrttihttp://freeware.sgi.com/Installable/WindowMaker-0.80.2.html08:24
ubottuSeveas called the ops in #ubuntu (Ongavezirke)09:15
bazhanguad, how may we help you10:46
bazhanguad if this is related to #ubuntu-ru , then you need to discuss in #ubuntu-irc , not here.  Please do not idle in this channel. Thanks.10:53
bazhang* groovyOrange (n=groovyOr@217.8.236.212) has joined #ubuntu-ru10:53
bazhangand some rather nasty comment in -ot10:53
Tm_Tbah...11:11
bazhang?11:11
Tm_TI just hate this world, humans especially11:12
bazhangsorry to hear that11:12
bazhanginteresting11:13
Tm_Tbuilding, where is ISP X gsm- and data control center, is currently totally failing with ISP Y gsm11:13
bazhanggroovyapples is native -ru speaker11:14
bazhangTm_T, that stinks11:14
Tm_Tso I cannot do my work11:14
Tm_Tthis building provides free wifi11:14
Tm_T...which is totally broken11:14
bazhangargh11:14
bazhangI would flip out I reckon11:15
ikoniacan someone stick a ban on grovey orange - I've had enough now 11:40
bazhangI can only do so in -ru11:41
ikoniaI'm asking for OT 11:41
bazhangand he has done nothing there yet11:41
bazhangI know.11:41
ikonianope, he's done enough in OT on a regular basis though11:41
ikoniawhy let this continue11:41
bazhangI was referring to -ru11:41
ikoniaof course11:42
bazhanghe admitted yesterday to some pretty foul stuff in -ot11:42
ikoniathere is going to be an issue with kavity in ot too11:42
bazhangand as he is clearly a native russian speaker, its not hard to surmise that he is in fact ilya, z, patchpockets, etc11:43
ikonialook at the identif on kavity too11:43
bazhangthe serverloft fellow all in one.11:43
ikoniabazhang: agreed11:43
elkywho is he there as?12:00
bazhanggroovy or kavity12:00
elkykavity is groovyorange?12:01
bazhangkavity is not kavita (asustek); groovy is in -ru as groovy12:01
bazhangerr was12:01
bazhangjust someone who wants to challenge swearing because its not in the coc explicitly12:02
elkykavity has a foul hostmask though12:02
bazhangyep12:02
bazhangremove from #ubuntu ?12:02
elkyi'm just going to treat it as a proxy12:03
elkyhe hasn't done anything as such in #ubuntu though12:05
bazhangtrue12:05
Picimeh12:09
PiciI'm not sure I agree with going after someone because of a hostmask, I don't recall us doing this sort of thing in the past... much less asking in public12:12
elkyPici, it's been done plenty of times before. show.us.your.tee.tees etc for example12:13
bazhangbiteme etc12:14
bazhangand real names too12:14
elkywould someone other than me like to take aprilhare aside and tell him to shut the hell up?12:15
PiciThen I don't think we should be making a spectacle out of it by asking in -offtopic, thats why we ask people to join -ops12:15
bazhanggood point12:15
PiciI'm also in a bad mood, so if I don't make sense, blame it on that.12:16
bazhangthen april would not be an issue12:16
bazhangPici, how is your shoulder by the way12:17
Picibazhang: Much better, its nearly completely back to normal.12:17
bazhangPici, awesome, glad to hear it12:17
ikoniaPici: you're never in a bad mood, please correct this 12:18
bazhangahahahaha12:18
bazhangaprilhare, not you12:20
elkyi wish he would stop clinging to me like this, ugh12:20
kavityI don't really have anything I wish to discuss about it.12:20
kavityI mean, I've been in that channel and #ubuntu for the past two months without anyone complaining about it.12:21
kavityI've been engaged in many conversations in the former, and assisted many people in the later.12:21
ikoniakavity: you're recent outbursts and argument brought a hilight on it12:21
bazhangperhaps pushing on the cursing was not so bright12:21
elkywe probably would not have noticed if it were not for your 'i'm not following the rules, nyah' attitude earlier12:21
kavityI said I would stop the swearing, and I was only curious as to where the rule was posted.12:21
ikoniaplus you're comment that it is "c0ck" because the rooseter is your favourite bird is a bit odd12:21
elkybut we have actually had it raised with us before12:22
ikoniaas surly it would be "cock" then - as c0ck is the "leet" speak term for Cock meaning penis12:22
bazhangyep12:22
kavityikonia: c0ck would be the 'leet speak' term for any definition of the word cock.12:22
elkypeople tend to associate your kind of host with people who are going to be rude and mean back, so they're not likely to go to you directly12:22
ikoniakavity: please, it's a most commonly used for "penis", if why would you not use "cock" if it was genuinly about a cock 12:23
kavityelky: As I've said before, I've assisted many people in #ubuntu, who have messaged me thereafter for more help.12:23
ikoniakavity: helping people does not = I can do what I want12:23
kavityI didn't mean to cause a rutcis(however that word is spelled) because of the swearing thing.12:23
kavityAs I said, I would stop swearing, and I didn't mean to in that channel.12:24
ikoniaso if you know it's a swearing issue - why use it ?12:24
ikoniamore so in a channel who has rules about swearing12:24
kavityWhat I was simply pointing out was the fact that ikonia had told me tor ead the coc, which I did, but did not see anything about swearing.12:24
bazhang!ohmy12:24
ubottuPlease remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.12:24
ikoniakavity: it says about being polite to people12:24
ikoniakavity: swearing is not polite12:24
bazhang!language12:24
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:24
ikonia"good fucking morning" is not polite - as well you know12:24
bazhangthose do12:24
kavityikonia: I don't see the point in repeating myself on this, but I did not realize what channel I was typing in.12:24
ikoniait also talks about being respectful, which you're comments does12:25
ikoniakavity: I've not mentioned you're swearing since12:25
bazhangkavity you were in only two channels12:25
kavityikonia: I work offshore, and most of the time people say "Good f**king morning" or "how the f**k are you"?12:25
ikoniakavity: how is that polite ?12:25
bazhangkavity, you thought to do that in #ubuntu ?12:25
kavitybazhang: I'm in 8 channels spanning 4 servers.12:25
elkykavity, other people also beat people up. does that make it ok for everyone?12:26
kavityI don't want to cause a big disagreement here, really, but to force me to change my host name just seems silly.12:26
bazhangthat would be quick removal most likely12:26
elkyno, it doesnt, does it.12:26
kavityBut especially on the freenode IRC server, where freedom is a huge deal, it seems very odd to get so much flack over this.12:26
kavityelky: No, you are correct.12:26
kavityI've already stated that I didn't mean to, and won't swear in the channel again.12:27
bazhangoho the 'in my culture it is ok' argument12:27
ikoniakavity: freedom is not a "big deal" it's free/opensource software, not a free world12:27
ikoniakavity: no-one has commented on the swearing12:27
kavityikonia: Have you ever looked much into freenode?12:27
ikoniakavity: yup12:27
bazhangonly one channel has that.12:27
elkykavity, we've been here for years.12:28
elkyi've been an op for years. usually hostnames with the word 'cock' in them belong to troll gangs. you will always be treated like one of those if you keep the host12:28
ikoniakavity: please be %100 genuine here but are you actually on the host c0ck.org ?12:28
kavityikonia: Yes. My website is hosted at kshadow.c0ck.org12:29
ikoniakavity: ok 12:29
* mneptok blinks12:29
kavityelky: I don't care if people aren't going to treat me well because of my host.12:29
kavityI'm not a troll, nor do I mean to be.12:29
kavityI'm simply here because I enjoy ubuntu, and I enjoy helping the people in the open source community.12:29
ikoniakavity: it may help you in future to consider getting a freenode cloak12:29
ikoniakavity: if you've been here for 2 months and plan to stick around, it may help for future 12:30
mneptokkavity: get a cloak .... what ikonia said12:30
elkyikonia, he's actually only in my logs for 1 month. since the 7th of feb12:30
ikoniaelky: a cloak would still help him12:30
ikoniakavity: just a suggestion 12:30
mneptokkavity: if you are as experienced and savvy as you claim, i'm wondering why you'd IRC from such host with such a puerile name.12:31
elkyikonia, yep, i'd be satisfied with a cloak. people can stop pointing it out then12:31
ikoniaexactly12:31
kavityelky: Check your logs of #ubuntu.12:31
ikoniakavity: stop arguing12:31
ikoniakavity: the time doesn't matter12:31
elkykavity, i have.12:31
bazhang!cloak12:31
ubottuMany Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks12:31
kavitymneptok: As I've said, I work offshore, so it's much easier to connect to a shell account from the ship as we move around a lot.12:31
kavityThat way I don't miss anytime anyone asks me questions, plus it saves on bandwidth on the boat.12:32
ikoniakavity: you can still get a cloak12:32
mneptokkavity: there are many hosts that provide shell access12:32
kavityikonia: Sorry.12:32
ikoniakavity: a host has nothing to do with a cloak12:32
mneptokkavity: you chose "c0ck" and now you have to live with the consequences.12:32
ikoniakavity: eg: my cloak follows me what ever host I'm on, like you I sometimes have limited access12:32
elkykavity, join #freenode and ask nicely for a cloak12:32
ikoniakavity: take 5 minutes to get one12:32
bazhangless12:32
elkybazhang, depends on staff saturation12:32
kavityHow about I just leave the channel, and you won't have to deal with me anymore :/12:33
bazhangg ary is there now12:33
kavityWould that satisfy?12:33
elkykavity, that's not what we want. what we want is a polite entrance from you.12:33
elkyugh, aprilhare in pm.... 12:33
elkyGET IT OFF!12:34
mneptokkavity: it would satisfy the rules. would *you* be satisfied?12:34
ikoniakavity: no reason to leave the channel for a 5 minute ammount of effort12:34
ikoniakavity: plus it will help you out in general in other channels12:34
kavityelky: I understand that, and as much as I appreciate the fact that you're giving me the option rather then just banning me, I'm not going to limit my freedom. As much as that may sound stupid to some of you.12:34
ikoniakavity: I'll help you with the steps and you can get a staff member to cloak you if you want12:34
kavityAlright alright.12:35
kavityI'll get the cloak.12:35
ikoniakavity: great, 12:35
kavityBut I won't be ahppy about it! :P12:35
mneptokkavity: you have freedom. you can use whatever hostmask you want. our freedom allows us to ban you. freedom has a price.12:35
elkykavity, the cloak will make you freer. you wont have to deal with being restricted from places because of your host12:35
ikoniakavity: do you know what to do, or do you need a hand ?12:36
ikoniaor "want" a hand I should say 12:36
kavityelky: This is the first time it's ever been brought up to me in the several years I've used it.12:36
kavityikonia: I'l check the faq posted above.12:36
elkyGary, can we borrow you a moment?12:36
Garyerm, I am at work12:36
ikoniakavity: no problem12:36
elkyGary, you looked active in #f, carry on then12:37
GaryI am, but still at work :p12:37
Garywhats up12:37
mneptokelky: that's what he means by "work" :P12:37
bazhanghaha12:37
elkyGary, kavity might ask for a cloak to cover up his rude hostmask sometime soon12:38
kavityIt's not rude! :<12:38
Garymneptok: hehe, no, I am also at paid work too, but trying to avoid doing any12:38
kavityBut yes, I need a cloak please.12:38
Garykavity: Take a look at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup to see how to setup 'the freenode way' :)12:38
bazhanglart gary12:38
kavityGary: Reading now, thanks.12:38
Garykavity: if you can look at that link, follow all steps, and I'll be able to cloak you then12:39
Garybazhang: :'(12:39
kavityName registered.12:39
Garykavity: don't forget all the other steps too12:40
ikoniaplease forward aprilhare in here from OT12:40
bazhangGary, sowwy :(12:40
elkyikonia, he's also in PM with me debating whether he acts like an adult or not12:40
ikoniaI know - I asked him to stop pm'ing people 12:40
elkyapparantly I make him act silly just by existing12:40
ikonianow he's being a jerk in channel 12:40
kavityGary: Some aren't required I assume, like hiding my email, or registering a secondary nickname?12:41
elkywhich i read as a very lame attempt at a pickup line12:41
ikoniaaprilhare: If you couuld just hold on for a moment please 12:41
ikoniaaprilhare: just finishing kavity's query 12:41
Garykavity: all are required for a cloak12:41
kavityGary: Ah, roger that.12:41
=== kavity is now known as kavity_
=== kavity_ is now known as kavity
kavityAlright, as far as I can tell everything's ready.12:43
mneptoksame old host.12:44
mneptokyou need to ID for your nick.12:44
mneptok /msg NickServ id $PASSWORD12:44
kavityI need to get a cloak set up first as far as I know.12:44
mneptokoh.12:44
mneptok*facepalm*12:45
kavityI'm already identified.12:45
* jussi01 larts mneptok12:45
jussi01:P12:45
mneptoki'll STFU and go back to coffee12:45
Myrttiooh, coffee12:45
mneptokmaybe my Bic lighter and i could be helpful at the origami fest ...12:45
elkyi think gary hasn't hit the button yet12:46
jussi01ok, so kavity is mostly sorted, shall we help aprilhare now?12:46
Garykavity: sorted12:47
ikoniaaprilhare: you still there ?12:47
kavitySo do I have to reconnect to have it done?12:47
aprilhareyes12:47
ikoniaaprilhare: thanks for hanging on12:47
jussi01kavity: you are sorted12:47
elkykavity, you shouldnt need to. thanks for working with us to solve the issue :)12:48
kavityYeah, thanks.12:48
kavityNo problem.12:48
kavityAnd your welcome ;)12:48
ikoniaaprilhare: I made a quick request to you to stop sending private messages to people, I was trying to be polite by not mentioning it in the channel, so what's the issue ?12:48
jussi01kavity: if theres nothing else, we will see you later :)12:48
kavityIn other words... 'get out' :P12:49
bazhangnice12:49
elkythat's much nicer12:49
bazhangand nicely handled elky ikonia 12:49
aprilhareikonia: i'm not pm'ing the universe. i don't like being confronted. the only pm was to elky as some sort of apology for offending her. no intervention required. no people, no plural12:49
elkyi think the credit lies with kavity for not being a moron about it12:50
MyrttiI love !morons12:50
bazhangtaht too12:50
ikoniaaprilhare: confronted ? a polite private message is not confrontation, hence why I didn't send you a message in the channel, as I didn't want to make an issue out of it12:50
bazhangand of course GARY !!!1!12:50
Myrttiour pink supermeister!12:50
aprilhareikonia: i wanted a room full of people who might think otherwise to know they weren't going to be pm deluged by me12:51
Garyoh dear god, whose been reading the blog?12:51
elkyaprilhare, you are increasingly clingy around me, and it makes me feel uncomfortable. especially when you PM me to say i 'bring out a silly streak'. that sounds terribly like a bad pickup line12:51
ikoniaaprilhare: no-one mentioned a pm in the channel 12:51
ikoniaaprilhare: so why did you feel the need to announce this to the world ?#12:51
elkyGary, *ALL* of us12:51
aprilhareelky: you've got kids. i'm not picking up anyone12:51
ikoniaaprilhare: I send you a private message so you didn't HAVE to mention it to the channel 12:51
aprilhareikonia: well i guess unless i ignored the pm i have to mention it in channel don't i? its either that or let it fester12:52
aprilhareand i'm not one for festering12:52
ikoniaaprilhare: why did you have to mention it to the channe l?12:52
elkywhy did he have to PM me blaming me for his behaviour?12:52
Myrttielky: congratulations on your motherhood12:53
elkyhe doesn't know how to behave. that's why12:53
aprilhareelky: i wasn't blaming you. otherwise i wouldn't be apologising12:53
ikoniaaprilhare: you could have responded to me directly, there was no need to make an issue in the channel, which is exactly what I was trying to avoid 12:53
elkyMyrtti, stop sending chills down my spine12:53
aprilhareikonia: unless you tell me to stop pm'ing people that is :)12:53
* Myrtti rolls her eyes12:53
bazhangaprilhare, there is a significant amount of stalking in that channel.12:53
ikoniaaprilhare: if you want to be stupid about it - then fine 12:53
aprilhareits sorta the chicken in the egg situation12:53
bazhangaprilhare, thus tensions are high.12:54
ikoniaaprilhare: no, thats you being petty12:54
aprilhareyou tell me not to pm but wexpect it to be solved via pm12:54
elkyaprilhare, your message was 'sorry, but you made me do it' in tone.12:54
aprilhareelky: i'm bad with tone12:54
aprilharecommon failing.12:54
bazhangthen dont pm12:54
bazhanglearn to see when advances are unwelcome.12:55
aprilharei have no idea where is is going. I'm waiting for the 'or you'll be banned' to drop12:56
ikoniathere isn't one12:56
ikoniaaprilhare: no-one is threatening to ban you12:56
ikoniaI asked you in here to ask you to stop behaving silly/petty12:57
bazhangrespect people's space12:57
ikoniaaprilhare: I tried to drop you a polite informal note/request, you've made a big deal out of it, so now that's been cleared up, please return to what ever IRC chat you where doing 12:59
aprilhareikonia: and say what?12:59
aprilhareit needs to be vetted clearly13:00
ikoniawhat ever you want13:00
aprilhareand i don't like vetting13:00
ikoniaaprilhare: ok - you want to continue to be silly about it fine13:00
elkyhe *really* gets under my skin13:00
ikoniastupid behaviour13:01
bazhangtime to clean up that channel13:01
bazhangonce and for all.13:01
* ikonia returns to work13:01
bazhangban on asus and groovy for starters13:01
elkybazhang, tread carefully. very carefully13:01
bazhangelky, groovy has made some really horrid comments the last two days about stalking, and how he did so to very young females (braggingly)13:02
ikoniamaking requests to "lick ass" and the like 13:02
bazhanghe is ban-evading.13:02
ikonia0:41  * groovyOrange invites himself to lick *her* as513:03
bazhang*her* ass13:03
elkyhe's still using the serverloft host?13:03
bazhanghynix admitted to doing the exact same13:03
elkyhynix has driven several people out of the channel with pure creepy13:04
bazhangthey are way outside the coc13:04
bazhangits not visible from where they are.13:05
jussi01ikonia: lovely guy there...13:18
ikoniajussi01: sorry - scripting is faster than the eye13:18
ikoniajussi01: another moron13:18
jussi01ikonia: I have it aliased also, just with waits as quassel devs are still working on proper scripting13:18
ikoniaah13:19
Myrttiaprilhare: can we help you?13:21
aprilharei have reconsidered matters: it might be easier for a period of time that I restrict myself to #ubuntu and answering whatever questions come my way. it appears my wayward attempts of being a humorful irc chatter are going awry and it's pretty hard to go wrong there.13:22
aprilharesorry if i caused any ops any trouble.13:22
bazhangsounds wise.13:22
bazhangthanks for your considerate attitude13:22
aprilharehey thats what i'll be here for :)13:23
aprilhareis there anything else?13:23
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, ziroday said: ubottu: !amaranth is Amaranth is too good for you, he's snearing at you pinging him right now13:23
aprilharei guess not. night13:25
Garyoops13:29
* gnomefreak is confused. I thought "is there anythning else" our question to ask13:29
bazhangyeah, like we should all part13:30
GaryI nearly did13:37
SeekerHi, just testing a mobile irc client14:37
ikoniapass14:37
SeekerSeems to be working14:38
ikoniaso it would seem14:39
Seekeralthough my phone can't do the right ' :(14:41
jussi01*g* [16:45:24] <#ubuntu-ops-monitor:FloodBot1> -WARNING: ljl-temp!ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl may be evading the ban on ljl-temp!n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl14:50
LjLyeah, always does that since lately...14:52
LjLi'm not sure what it's thinking14:52
LjLi've excluded it from my wills anyway14:53
LjLit won't get a single penny14:53
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: !cake is http://www.flickr.com/photos/neiltron/3351856161/14:55
Picibleh15:31
LjL[18:16:39] <NavadeHo> how long is the ban?17:17
LjL[18:16:59] <LjL> ask #ubuntu-ops17:17
NavadeHoHow long is the ban?17:17
NavadeHo:S17:17
LjLNavadeHo: i don't know17:17
LjLi propose a week for every CTCP PING you did to the bot?17:17
NavadeHoT_T"17:18
NavadeHowtf?17:18
LjLNavadeHo: just tell me, why should i unban someone who clearly shows no restraint in DoS abuse of channel users?17:18
LjLi should protect channel users - and for that matter, bots17:19
NavadeHoI CTCP'd the floodbot that many times because I was getting no response.17:19
LjLah, sure, i see17:20
LjLmakes sense17:20
LjLor not17:20
NavadeHo:|17:20
LjLwhy did you keep doing it after i told you to stop - and kicked to make the point clearer?17:20
NavadeHoI CTCP'd u.17:21
LjLyes, you ctcp'd me17:21
LjLthen i banned you17:21
LjLthen you resumed ctcping the bot17:21
NavadeHoSo? It that evidence that I would do it again?17:21
NavadeHo* Is17:21
LjLi'd say so17:21
NavadeHoWhy am I not doing it right now then?17:22
LjLyou CTCP'd the bot a total of 159 times17:22
LjLi don't know, i'm not in your head17:22
NavadeHolol <_<17:22
NavadeHoHave mercy :)17:22
LjLi did17:23
LjLi gave you a chance to stop it17:23
LjLyou resumed doing it17:23
NavadeHohmm?17:23
NavadeHodid you unban me :O17:23
NavadeHo?17:23
LjLno. i told you to stop it.17:24
LjLas a result, you ctcp'd it more times.17:24
mneptokinteresting strategy.17:25
NavadeHoSo, you're going to let me kept banned for 159 weeks? <_<"17:25
LjLmake it a round 100, ok?17:26
NavadeHo=_="17:27
LjLother questions?17:27
NavadeHour serious?17:27
LjLmhm17:27
mneptokwhy ruin that second anniversary?17:29
NavadeHoX_X"17:29
* mneptok is a romantic17:29
LjLmneptok: good point i guess, 104 then?17:29
mneptoknow that's a man's man. ladies, i step aside.17:30
NavadeHoHEY, when I say I will not do it again, I MEAN IT.17:30
LjLNavadeHo: so, anything else you want to ask us?17:31
mneptokbrb. feelings awaking in soft parts of my psyche.17:31
LjLmy VERSION or TIME perhaps?17:31
LjLNavadeHo: i suppose you may mean it, but i have no reason to believe that, while i have reasons to believe the contrary17:31
NavadeHoyou may perm ban me from all Ubuntu channels and whatsoever where ur op when I do it again.17:32
LjLNavadeHo: come back here in a month, your ban will be reviewed then17:34
NavadeHo-_-17:34
LjLnow unless you have other questions relevant to this channel, please part17:36
NavadeHo?17:36
LjLwhich part wasn't too clear?17:37
NavadeHowhy should I part?17:37
LjL /topic17:37
NavadeHoyou have the right? ..17:37
NavadeHowell, whatever17:38
LjL@mark #Ubuntu-ops navadeho17:38
ubottuThe operation succeeded.17:38
EQP[AwNgwhat the HELL is going on with my connection18:09
* EQP[AwNg hopes navadeho didn't manage to move from CTCP to something more serious18:09
=== EQP[AwNg is now known as LjL
Seeker`_jussi01_: ping18:18
Seeker`_or "anyone that has something to do with jussi01.com" ping18:18
PcYpVWD\ok my connection is entirely unreliable, i'm killing my bots18:19
jussi01Seeker`_: pm18:19
=== PcYpVWD\ is now known as LjL
=== LjL-2 is now known as LjL-Temp
PiciTwo more people just told me that asustek sent them friend requests on facebook... and they rarely ever join -offtopic.19:02
Picimake that 319:14
LjLPici: well is that something we should be acting upon?19:14
PiciLjL: I'm not sure, I'm just putting it out there.19:15
naliothwhen you join a public gathering, you run the risk of idiots 19:16
naliothwhy should we act on it?19:16
naliothwe didn't make anyone join facebook or join our channels19:17
Priceyasustek has sent me various invites from various places. people don't have to accept19:17
LjLit's akin to spamming my mail address just because i posted something on a newsgroup, though19:18
LjLand i don't have to read my mail either19:18
PriceyCould always ask him to stop?/19:21
LjLi suppose that might be a reasonable compromise.19:21
LjLcan i have auto-op in -read-topic please?20:19
LjLit's both annoying when i need to change nicks, and i'd sometimes like to see just what people are saying instead of "test me"20:20
Seeker`LjL: you dont get ops by asking for it!20:39
LjLbut i have ops!20:41
LjLi just want the auto part :(20:41
Seeker`awwww20:42
Seeker`poor LjL 20:42
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: !stop is <alias> hammertime21:12
topyliokay have fun, i won't look at -ot for a while21:12
Seeker`what would happen to me if i told people in -offtopic to join #20,000?21:14
LjLSeeker`: i have just slammed my fingers inside my eeepc to avoid doing that21:15
Seeker`heh21:15
Seeker`i wonder how many would try it21:17
ikoniaevening all21:39
LjLhi21:40
ikoniahey LjL 21:40
ikoniahow's it going ?21:40
LjLIf you desire to hear the courtesy version, press 1. If you instead want the real thing, press #.21:41
ikonia#21:41
LjLcrap!21:41
ikonianot what I wanted to hear from you, why so bad ?21:41
LjLnothing really, just feeling depressed like more and more often21:42
* jussi01 huggles LjL21:43
ikonianot good21:43
LjLand then jussi makes it worse21:43
ikoniathat's his specialty21:43
* mneptok waves his boobies around21:46
Seeker`:/21:46
Seeker`moobs!21:46
Seeker`jussi01: o/21:48
* jussi01 slinks off into the corner.... 21:49
jussi01dont like making things worse21:49
Seeker`:O21:50
ikoniajussi01: you don't, don't worry 21:50
naliothmneptok: when did you become an abusive ornithologist?21:54
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)22:07
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)22:07
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)22:07
mneptoknalioth: blue feet arouse me22:09
LjLbest exploit string EVER, by the way.22:10
ikoniawhat was it ?22:11
LjLikonia: UPDATEYOURROUTERSIFYOUDONTLIKEBEINGKICKED22:11
jdonglol I guess that's a public service announcement :)22:12
jdong(or denial thereof)22:12
LjLyeah he could have used ctcp though22:13
LjLhe only got one out22:13
Seeker`i wonder how many new users there are in #u every day22:20
LjLSeeker`: i used to have statistics on that22:20
Seeker`LjL: how many were there?22:21
LjLSeeker`: i don't really remember... let me see if grepping the -ops logs comes up with anything (certainly easier than finding out how that SQL database worked)22:22
LjLSeeker`: uhm, for now i can tell you about ~500 distinct nicknames used to speak every day22:35
Seeker`how long ago was that?22:36
LjLSeeker`: early 200822:38
LjLSeeker`: although the stats go back to 200422:38
Seeker`so probably not too dissimilar to now22:38
LjLSeeker`: i'm trying to find out how many distinct nicks there have been in total, but my sql is failing me22:39
Seeker`your sql-fu or your sql?22:39
LjLmy sql-fu i suppose22:39
LjLi'm about to just pipe the output of "SELECT distinct Nick FROM Messages" into "wc -l" :P22:40
Seeker`heh22:40
Seeker`SELECT COUNT(distinct Nick) FROM Messages22:41
Seeker`?22:41
LjLnope22:41
LjLwon't work22:41
LjLanyway, the wc -l method gives me 15115522:41
Seeker`wow22:41
LjLnow, let me see just how many days it spans22:42
LjLshould be 1311 days22:43
LjLSeeker`: so about 115 actual new users a day?22:43
Seeker`cool22:44
LjLminus some who change nicknames, i suppose22:44
LjLSeeker`: i'd put the site for those stats back online if i had anywhere to put it to22:47
jussi01LjL: *cough*22:49
LjLjussi01: it's pretty heavy22:49
jussi01LjL: ok, what are we talking?22:49
LjLjussi01: just the db up to 2008 is 100 megs. a query on my server takes about a minute22:49
LjL(admittedly, my server isn't the latest in technology)22:50
jussi01LjL: shouldnt be much of an issue22:50
jussi01LjL: Ill give you an account on the second server - not the bot one.22:50
LjLok, let's try22:51
LjL(the bot one wouldn't be a good idea, no)22:51
Seeker`i'm guessing the bot one is the one i'm on now22:51
jussi01Seeker`: yea22:51
LjLSeeker`: ps aux...22:51
Seeker`yup22:52
jussi01LjL: btw, did you notice the address change? use ubottu.com for the bot one now22:52
LjLphp has a proc_nice() function, i might use that22:52
jussi01LjL: oh, you already  have an account22:52
LjLjussi01: hm, wait22:53
jussi01LjL:  just log int using your previuos credentials to jussi01.com22:53
LjLjussi01: i had - or thought i had - forgot my password some time ago, stdin restored it22:53
jussi01LjL: there are 2 servers - the one I had originally, and the new vps. I can reset your password if you need it22:54
jussi01jussi01.com is the original, ubottu.com is the new vps22:54
LjLjussi01: the password seems to be the same on both, and my apt web stuff is apparently on both22:54
LjLi just tried22:55
LjL(i guess that explains the ssh key authentication failures)22:55
jussi01LjL: yeah, when we changed it we rsynced everything across22:55
LjLjussi01: so which one should i be using for the apt thing now?22:55
jussi01LjL: either - its not too heavy and both can handle it.22:56
jussi01but the stats thing should be on jussi01.com22:56
LjLok22:56
LjLjussi01: i might need you to install some php gadgets for the stats one to work22:57
jussi01LjL: just give me a package list22:57
LjLjussi01: i will when i know what it would be :)22:58
LjLit's been more than a year22:58
jussi01in a nice cut and paste format to make my life easier :D22:58
LjLis it very silly of me to be using netcat to transfer stuff 'cause i'never used scp or rsync? :P23:00
jussi01yes! :P23:01
jussi01I mean seroiusly... even sftp:// for petes sake...23:01
LjLi dunno, i'm scared of stuff involving public keys23:02
LjLit's irrational23:02
jussi01LjL: you use ssh, no?23:02
LjLwith a password, yes... although i'm a bit scared of it too, i just breathe deeply and use it23:02
jussi01LjL: so use sftp:// with a password... just like ssh23:03
LjLit's not an idea devoid of merit23:03
jussi01:)23:04
LjLjussi01: i need libphp-phplot installed... i don't think i need anything else, though i'm not entirely sure23:05
jussi01Unpacking libphp-phplot (from .../libphp-phplot_4.4.6+5.0rc1.dfsg-0.1ubuntu2_all.deb) ...23:07
jussi01Setting up libphp-phplot (4.4.6+5.0rc1.dfsg-0.1ubuntu2) ...23:07
jussi01jussi@whatever:~$23:07
LjLnoticed already yep ;)23:07
jussi01:)23:08
LjLjussi01: alright, i think i also need php5-sqlite (sorry but just looking at the "require"s doesn't tell the whole story)23:09
jussi01LjL: all good, be quick tho, Im heading to bed soonish23:09
jussi01LjL: done23:10
LjLuhm, it's still complaining about the same function23:10
jussi01LjL: perhaps you want php-sqlite323:12
jussi01?23:12
jussi01or even php5-sqlite323:12
LjLjussi01: i was thinking that but i don't think so23:12
jussi01LjL: try now... see if php5-sqlite3 fixed it23:13
LjLnope23:13
LjLsqlite_open is undefined23:13
jussi01well let me know...23:14
LjLphp.net isn't very helpful, as it seems to claim it's a PHP 5 built-in23:14
jussi01hrm23:14
jussi01you sure that you thing is looking in the right places for its stuff?23:15
LjLjussi01: couldn't *swear* on it, but then i'm not really including anything to use the sqlite_open() function, i seem to just assume it to be available23:17
jussi01hrm, well if you figure out what you need, let me know. we have loads of space so installing stuff isnt really a huge issue23:18
jussi01anyway, Im off to bed. nini. 23:19
LjLjussi01: it's probably just that sqlite support needs to be explicitly enabled in php. try  echo "extension=sqlite.so" >>/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini23:20
LjLjussi01: night23:20

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