[00:39] <mister2> hello?
[00:39] <mister2> is anybody here?
[00:40] <mister2> kinda need some help
[00:40] <mister2> hhheeeeeerrrrllllloooooooooooooooooooo?
[00:41] <jhg> whats up?
[00:42] <jhg> mister2: whats up?
[00:44] <mister2> aha
[00:44] <mister2> there is someone
[00:44] <mister2> uh
[00:45] <goofey> mister2: you will be much more successful is you just state the problem your having or ask the questoin you have rather than aksing if someone is around
[00:45] <mister2> i was wondering how to see packaging dependencies via commandline
[00:45] <mister2> i realised that
[00:45] <goofey> mister2: apt-cache search package_name
[00:45] <mister2> i also realised i could have just used the command to see al users
[00:45] <mister2> sweet
[00:45] <mister2> thanks
[00:46] <goofey> mister2: oops, apt-cache showpkg package_name
[00:46] <goofey> MianoSM: np
[00:46] <goofey> dang, he left
[00:46] <steelcityjim> ok my server I believe has suddenly stopped working can any give me some direction on how to troubleshoot
[00:47] <goofey> steelcityjim: what makes you think it has stopped working?  I only ask because you say you believe is has - maybe not sure?
[00:47] <steelcityjim> well my website is not coming up
[00:47] <steelcityjim> so im assuming the server ain't working
[00:48] <goofey> so you have physical access to the server?
[00:48] <goofey> er, do?
[00:48] <steelcityjim> yes
[00:49] <steelcityjim> well what do you mean by physical
[00:49] <goofey> is the computer running?
[00:49] <steelcityjim> yes
[00:49] <goofey> ok, can you ping it?
[00:49] <goofey> this tells us if the OS is frozen or just the webserver
[00:49] <goofey> or maybe network or?
[00:50] <goofey> lots of reasons why a wesbite won't load
[00:50] <steelcityjim> well I can acess the desktop on the server
[00:50] <goofey> er, website
[00:50] <goofey> ok, the OS is running
[00:50] <steelcityjim> yes
[00:50] <steelcityjim> ubuntu
[00:50] <goofey> let's see if the webserver is still running - try ps -ef | grep apache
[00:54] <steelcityjim> hang on
[00:54] <goofey> k
[00:57] <genii> In a .pinerc file, trying to make a line like : inbox-path={mail.mydomain.tld/notls/novalidate-cert/user=$USER}INBOX       however, "$USER" gets translated to a colon for some reason. Is it pine/alpine internal parser of it's config file doing this or am I missing something?
[00:59] <goofey> steelcityjim: if it is still running, you might look in /var/log/apache2/error.log for errors
[00:59] <steelcityjim> I cant get this fing hub to switch
[00:59] <genii> (I am wanting to make a generalised solution so that there won't have to be a separate inbox-path={mail.mydomain.tld/notls/novalidate-cert/user=fullusername}INBOX     kind of deal for each user
[01:01] <steelcityjim> I have a kvm switch and I can't get it to switch over to the server now
[01:05] <goofey> steelcityjim: can you ssh into the server?
[01:08] <steelcityjim> let me try
[01:10] <steelcityjim> no wont connect
[01:11] <goofey> steelcityjim: you either have a network issue or the OS is locking up
[01:11] <goofey> steelcityjim: the KVM problems seems to point to the OS locking up
[01:11] <goofey> steelcityjim: does the server respond to ping?
[01:11] <steelcityjim> how do I do that
[01:12] <goofey> ping "ip address of server"
[01:12] <goofey> ie: ping 192.168.1.100
[01:13] <steelcityjim> ok I am able to access the file share through the network
[01:14] <goofey> steelcityjim: you have contradictory information - you can access share files, but are unable to ssh or view web pages
[01:14] <steelcityjim> yes
[01:15] <steelcityjim> ssh will not connect
[01:15] <goofey> steelcityjim: and your kvm won't switch to that computer
[01:15] <goofey> steelcityjim: but you've ssh'ed to that box before, right?
[01:15] <steelcityjim> well the kvm is a keybaord issue
[01:15] <steelcityjim> yes I have ssh the server
[01:16] <goofey> steelcityjim: best thing (i think) would be plug a keyboard/monitor directly into the server to find out what's going on - my guess is maybe you ran out of disk space or ?????
[01:16] <goofey> or fix the jeyboard so you can use the kvm
[01:16] <goofey> otherwise it's hard to diagnose without ssh access
[01:17] <steelcityjim> ok got on the sever
[01:17] <steelcityjim> now what?
[01:18] <goofey> let's see if apache and ssh are running
[01:18] <goofey> ps -ef | grep apache and ps -ef | grep ssh
[01:19] <goofey> also check df -h to make sure none of your disks are full
[01:19] <steelcityjim> ok did ps -ef
[01:19] <steelcityjim> bunch of stuff listed
[01:20] <giovani3> he wanted you to run " ps -ef | grep apache"
[01:20] <giovani3> so you could filter out all of the "stuff" that wasn't apache
[01:20] <goofey> that's what the "| grep apache" is for, it pulls out lines that have the word apache in them
[01:20] <goofey> giovani3: thanks
[01:20] <steelcityjim> what is that line?
[01:21] <goofey> ps -ef | grep apache
[01:21] <steelcityjim> I don't see the vertical line on my keyboard
[01:21] <giovani3> just copy-paste
[01:21] <goofey> shift \
[01:21] <giovani3> but, the vertical line is called a pipe, and is usually shift- and then the key above your enter/return key
[01:21] <goofey> on most keyboards
[01:21] <steelcityjim> ok got it
[01:22] <steelcityjim> 6 or 7 lines came up
[01:22] <goofey> ok, your webserver is running
[01:22] <steelcityjim> www-data
[01:22] <goofey> let's try:
[01:22] <goofey> ps -ef | grep ssh
[01:22] <steelcityjim> one line came up
[01:23] <goofey> strange
[01:23] <goofey> your network appears to be working because you can access files on the server
[01:23] <steelcityjim> jim 19384 19314 0 20:22 pts/0 00:00:00 grep ssh
[01:23] <giovani3> heh
[01:24] <giovani3> no, ssh isn't running :)
[01:24] <steelcityjim> actually wait 3 lines came up
[01:24] <steelcityjim> root
[01:24] <giovani3> ok ... paste them
[01:24] <goofey> giovani3: ahh, right - thanks!
[01:24] <goofey> ubottu: !paste | steelcityjim
[01:26] <steelcityjim> http:..paste.ubuntu.com/131786
[01:27] <giovani3> heh
[01:27] <giovani3> ok, ssh is running
[01:27] <steelcityjim> im also using no-ip.org as my domain provider
[01:28] <giovani3> run ipconfig on the server
[01:28] <giovani3> and paste the output in ubuntu's pastebin again
[01:28] <steelcityjim> do I do that from terminal?
[01:28] <steelcityjim> ipconfig?
[01:29] <giovani3> yes
[01:29] <giovani3> sorry, ifconfig
[01:29] <giovani3> wrong OS :)
[01:30] <steelcityjim> 131787
[01:30] <giovani3> uh ... this is NATed?
[01:30] <giovani3> that's an internal IP
[01:30] <giovani3> I'm betting you didn't forward your SSH port (properly) -- port 22
[01:35] <steelcityjim> well I had a router issue last week
[01:35] <steelcityjim> I just checked the 22 and 80 ports and they had the wrong ip address
[01:35] <steelcityjim> I cahnged them but it still does not appear to be working
[01:40] <steelcityjim> ok im able to access the html pages from the server via ubuntu desktop
[01:47] <steelcityjim> im running this through no-ip.org since I don't have a dns address
[01:52] <steelcityjim> i wonder if my isp is blocking this
[01:54] <steelcityjim> port 80 is the incoming internet traffic correct
[02:03] <goofey> steelcityjim: most isp's do block that port
[02:04] <timburke> steelcityjim is everything correctly forwarded?
[02:04] <steelcityjim> yes it was working
[02:04] <timburke> hmm... who is your ISP
[02:04] <steelcityjim> dls.net
[02:05] <steelcityjim> they offer webhosting so Im wondering if they don't allow it from a residential account
[02:05] <timburke> Residential DLS wireless subscribers may not use their wireless connections to run programs or servers that provide network content or connectivity to any 3rd party not at the location where the connection is installed. Examples of prohibited programs include, but are not limited to, mail, FTP, HTTP, game, newsgroup, proxy, and IRC servers. DLS reminds its customers that illegally distributing copyrighted material over any medium is against U.S
[02:06] <steelcityjim> dude
[02:07] <steelcityjim> so I can't remote access my own files?
[02:07] <timburke> nope
[02:07] <steelcityjim> wtf
[02:07] <timburke> you might want to get AT&T's DSL service.. I believe they serve your area.. they allow servers
[02:08] <steelcityjim> yea i know a few that have that service
[02:08] <steelcityjim> its a pita
[02:08] <timburke> I personally have Comcast Business.. and run servers off of it - works great
[02:08] <steelcityjim> dude I feel censored
[02:09] <timburke> steelcityjim: well, you're using your ISP's network.. they can do what they want with the network
[02:09] <steelcityjim> but I have not files on the webpage
[02:09] <steelcityjim> no
[02:09] <steelcityjim> its just a lame webpage
[02:10] <timburke> steelcityjim then why not get a cheap webhosting account... http://nearlyfreespeech.net for example
[02:10] <steelcityjim> well i was trying to learn how to do it myself
[02:10] <steelcityjim> since I have the extra equipment laying around
[02:10] <timburke> you could colo it
[02:11] <timburke> there are several good colo providers here in the chicago area
[02:11] <steelcityjim> what does colo mean?
[02:11] <timburke> colocation
[02:11] <timburke> you ship the server off to a provider that will host it
[02:12] <steelcityjim> oh im sure they would love my 10 year old compaq pentium 3 showing up
[02:12] <timburke> haha
[02:12] <steelcityjim> they would probably ship it right back
[02:13] <steelcityjim> so that explains why my site won't come up they somehow have it blocked
[02:13] <timburke> either that or you incorrectly configured your router
[02:13] <steelcityjim> I did have try downloading a few files rmotely
[02:13] <steelcityjim> they must have seen it on thier end and snipped it
[02:13] <timburke> regardless, this isn't the place to discuss it.. this is only a room to talk about and get support about ubuntu server
[02:14] <timburke> try #2,000
[02:14] <steelcityjim> understood timburke
[02:14] <steelcityjim> thanks for the assistance
[02:14] <timburke> no problem
[03:27] <Mal3ko> doesnt PAE allow 32 bit server to see 4gb ram?
[03:32] <genii> Mal3ko: Yes, far more than 4Gb. But individual processes are still limited to 32bit memory usage
[03:33] <Mal3ko> i exec free -m and i only see 3282
[03:34] <Mal3ko> why i dont see 4096?
[03:38] <genii> Mal3ko: Does:  lshw -C cpu              show in the line of: Capabilities         pae        ?
[03:39] <Mal3ko> yes
[03:39] <Mal3ko> capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
[03:40] <Mal3ko> ubuntu 8.10 server
[03:40] <genii> Probably "free" itself is 32bit
[03:42] <Mal3ko> including 'top'?
[03:48] <genii> Mal3ko: Research indicates kernel needs recompiling with options CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y, CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y even if PAE is enabled
[03:49] <Mal3ko> why they dont enabled that by default? are there side issues with those options?
[03:50] <genii> I don't have the answers to those questions
[05:09] <roy_hobbs> Anyone familiar with the sasl-sample-{client,server} utilities?
[06:13] <xun911> hello, I'm running ubuntu server on a Dell XPS laptop, does anyone know how to turn the backlight off on it?
[06:24] <twb> xun911: is there anything being displayed on the screen?
[06:24] <xun911> at the moment it's a blank screen
[06:24] <twb> Hmm.
[06:24] <twb> If X is running, try "xset dpms force off"
[06:25] <xun911> twb, ya, tried that, did not work.
[06:25] <twb> Sorry, I don't know what else to try.
[06:25] <xun911> it says "unable to open dislpay ""
[06:25] <twb> That would be bcause X isn't running.
[06:26] <xun911> yes, because I'm running it as server. this kinda bothers me....
[06:30] <twb> You could just leave the lid shut
[06:36] <xun911> twb, ya, but the backlight would still be on
[06:36] <twb> xun911: then it's broken
[06:37] <xun911> twb, haa... yes it is. the graphic card is displaying crap, that's why i'm using it as a server :) but i doubt if that's the issue
[06:38] <xun911> twb, i'm just reroute the display to "external" at boot, then unhook the cable when it's fully started, seems to be working for now, yeah!
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> open it up and unplug the lcd
[06:46] <twb> Good idea
[06:46] <twb> I still need to learn to use emacspeak so I can be super hard-core and write programs without looking
[06:50] <xun911> Kamping_Kaiser, ya, i did that few days ago atempting to fix the graphic card, dont' want to go through that again. also just in case something goes wrong & I can't ssh into it, a semi-working LCD is still useful
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> twb, ...
[06:53] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacspeak or http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> aaah.
[06:56] <twb> Kamping_Kaiser: so you're sitting there with your external keyboard and your headphones and a zaurus in your shirt front, happily reading email and writing scripts
[07:29] <PecisDarbs> hi people, is there any good webmin alternatives out there - propably more secure and better looking?
[07:29] <PecisDarbs> I know ebox, but it is not quite what I need
[07:57] <_ruben> PecisDarbs: then what do you need?
[08:01] <PecisDarbs> _ruben: more like webmin, but better looking. Ebox feels like whole different distribution.
[08:01] <_ruben> ebox is a web interface just like webmin is
[08:02] <_ruben> with the big difference that ebox is supported on ubuntu, and webmin isnt
[08:06] <PecisDarbs> ok, maybe I have just to try it
[08:11] <iverson0881> Hello was having trouble with tab completion on my user. I always get sudo update_reub-sh: <( compgen -d -- 'update_reub' ): No such file or directory for any command i try tab completing. any ideas?
[08:11] <echosystm> hi guys
[08:11] <echosystm> i need to setup a ubuntu server in vmware, but 8.04.2 isn't supported and 8.04.1 is "experimental"
[08:12] <echosystm> if i installed 8.04 and then did an apt-get upgrade, would this be the same as installing 8.04.2 ?
[08:12] <iverson0881> echosystm: I've installed 8.0.4.2 on a production environment and works great.
[08:13] <iverson0881> echosystm: under VMWare Server
[08:13] <echosystm> ESX?
[08:13] <iverson0881> echosystm: No haven't had the a chance to move to ESX yet
[08:13] <echosystm> ok
[08:13] <echosystm> did you install the vmware tools?
[08:14] <iverson0881> echosystm: No
[08:14] <echosystm> ok, well that's what doesnt work :P
[08:14] <iverson0881> echosystm: When I did install it, sometimes it would cause weird networking issues :-p
[08:14] <echosystm> doesnt it perform badly without vmware tools?
[08:15] <soren> echosystm: Where does it say that 8.04.1 is experimental?
[08:15] <iverson0881> soren: word
[08:15] <echosystm> Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS – experimental support on Workstation 6.5, 6.5.1
[08:15] <soren> iverson0881: "word"? What?
[08:15] <echosystm> im using workstation
[08:15] <soren> echosystm: *Where*?
[08:15] <iverson0881> soren: haha sorry, word as in "I agree"
[08:15] <soren> iverson0881: With a question?
[08:16] <echosystm> http://pubs.vmware.com/guestnotes/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=guestnotes&file=guestos_ubuntu804_2.html#4905554
[08:16] <echosystm> i tried to install 8.04.2 before i read this
[08:16] <iverson0881> soren: I was just thinking the same thinking so I was agreeing with your valid question
[08:16] <echosystm> got a tonne of errors
[08:16] <echosystm> it doesnt recognise the kernel, so it tries to build all the packages itself
[08:17] <echosystm> needless to say, it doesn't go down too well
[08:17] <soren> "build all the packages"?
[08:17] <soren> What does that mean?
[08:17] <soren> echosystm: Oh, the vmware installer thing?
[08:17] <echosystm> vmware tools yes
[08:18] <echosystm> brb 5 mins
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[10:12] <wo0f> whats the best method the setup kiosk mode with gnome?
[11:00] <kaushal> hi
[11:02] <kaushal> I am running tomcat 5.5.27 on Ubuntu Server 8.04, sun-jdk-5
[11:02] <kaushal> i am getting An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
[11:02] <kaushal> http://rafb.net/p/ejaJv811.html
[11:04] <ttx> kaushal: that's a bug in Sun's JDK, I would say
[11:04] <ttx> nothing we do in Java should be able to crash it.
[11:05] <kaushal> ttx, ok
[11:06] <kaushal> can you please confirm via Bug No of Sun JDK if there are any ?
[11:25] <erichammond> zul, soren: I'm probably going to miss the server meeting this morning since it's in the middle of my sleep cycle at 9am, but wanted to register my vote *against* making screen the default on login to EC2 instance.
[11:27] <soren> erichammond: I'll pass it on.
[11:27] <erichammond> My primary reason is that the EC2 Ubuntu server should be as close as possible to standard Ubuntu server except where absolutely required because of EC2 environment, but also because screen is not easy for the uninitiated to grasp and I believe in the principle of least surprise.
[11:27] <erichammond> Thanks.
[11:28] <soren> erichammond: I agree completely. I'm against it as well.
[11:28] <erichammond> That said, I always use screen personally and wouldn't mind if it were installed by default :)
[11:28] <soren> For much the same reasons.
[11:28] <erichammond> especially if it could be installed by default on the standard server.
[11:28] <soren> In its current form, screen is simply too invasive. Even moreso with the screen profiles on top.
[12:04] <zul> im against it as well for what its worth
[12:59] <o891_> hi
[13:04] <jwstolk> hi. I'm running ubuntu-server-64 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7, which fails to re-build a raid-10 array (known bug: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11967 )
[13:04] <jwstolk> is there an easy way to switch to kernel 2.6.28 ?
[13:05] <jwstolk> or going back to 2.6.26 ?
[13:30] <jwstolk> "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.28-4" should work, but how do I find out if 2.6.28-4 is the latest available kernel for ubuntu-server?
[13:31] <Deeps> apt-get install linux-image-server
[13:31] <Deeps> metapackage that will always point to the latest 'stable' kernel release
[13:32] <jwstolk> Deeps: thanks. (I need a 28 kernel (stable or not...) to be able to re-build my raid volume)
[13:34] <jwstolk> hmm. I got 2.6.27-11  :(
[13:34] <jwstolk> and that can't rebuild a raid-10
[13:35] <Deeps> umm, linux-image-2.6.28-4 is only in jaunty, which is still in pre-release condition
[13:36] <Deeps> you can always build your own kernel
[13:36] <jwstolk> (see bug above) I could go back to 2.6.26 ?
[13:37] <Deeps> apt-cache search linux-image | grep ^linux-image
[13:37] <Deeps> will show you all the kernel images
[13:38] <jwstolk> only 2.6.27
[13:39] <Deeps> having followed your bug link
[13:40] <Deeps> it links to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/285156
[13:40] <Deeps> which features: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/285156/comments/10
[13:40] <Deeps> and then: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/285156/comments/11
[13:40] <Deeps> read the comments in the launchpad bug, has a solution of sorts
[13:41] <Deeps> (for intrepid, with a patched .27 kernel)
[13:41] <jwstolk> fixed in 2.6.27-9? interesting. didn't seem to work with 2.6.27-11 here...
[13:42] <Deeps> you said you're using 2.6.27-7
[13:42] <jwstolk> ah! should re-boot of coerce.
[13:42] <jwstolk> I did install 2.6.27-11 when you said so.
[13:45] <jwstolk> rebuilding raid started automatically (like it should) thanks!
[13:45] <jwstolk> (after re-boot)
[13:47] <Deeps> cool
[13:49] <jwstolk> 1.9% this is going to take a while. I'm running raid-10.f2 using just 2  WesternDigital Green 1TB drives. (on our company file server) the single-file read-speed is really neat.
[13:50] <o891_> trying to setup postfix smtp auth
[13:50] <o891_> it keeps giving the SASL authentication problem: unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb2: No such file or directory error, i cant even find the file anywhere, someone know a solution to this?
[13:51] <ScottK> o891_: Did you follow the Ubuntu server guide documentation on setting up SASL?
[13:51] <o891_> ScottK: sort of, that didnt work for me so I tried a few different things
[13:52] <o891_> ScottK: is the file part of the dovecot--common package?
[13:52] <o891_> *dovecot-common
[13:52] <ScottK> OK.  My first suggestion is to go back to how the Ubuntu docs tell you to set it up.
[13:52] <Deeps> um, raid10 using 2 disks? why bother?
[13:52] <ScottK> We chroot postfix by default and I suspect that's where your problem is.
[13:53] <o891_> ScottK; ok, well I thing I will trash everything and then start again...
[13:53] <o891_> ScottK: thanks anyway
[13:53] <o891_> ScottK: by the way: I am so impressed with the ubuntu community (u are all very helpful)
[13:53] <o891_> Thanks!
[13:53] <ScottK> o891_: If you follow the docs as exactly as you can and still have problems, that will maximize the chances someone here can help you.
[13:54] <o891_> ScottK: yeah true, well I think a clean start is what I should do anyway, the problem is that the documentation doesnt explain how to do virtual mailboxes so I used this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto    but it doesnt cover SASL
[13:55] <o891_> ScottK: anyway its all gotten a bit messy now, so I should do it again anyway: would you recommend using MySQL for non-unix accounts or would you go with files?
[13:56] <ScottK> o891_: You want to start small and work up.  So start with the server guide on sasl and then add stuff.
[13:57] <ScottK> o891_: Generally I'm not a big fan of making the reliability of my mail system depend on mysql.  Unless you have a large system with lots of users, it's probably more pain than it's worth.
[13:58] <o891_> ScottK, ok well I will do what the doc says till I get it working for one user and then I will try to set up using that virtualMailBoxes Documentation
[13:58] <o891_> ScottK: well its not for many users so I will go with files, anyway I think it is more secure too
[13:58] <o891_> ScottK: thanks for the help :)
[13:58] <jwstolk> Deeps: I wanted the (almost) double read speed for single (large) files. and a bit of redundancy saves a lot of work when replacing drives.
[14:29] <ttx> zul: could you have a shot at a samba 3.3.2 merge ? I can't really do it right now and we need to get regression in bug 337037 handled asap...
[14:30] <zul> ttx: yep I can do it this afternoon
[14:30] <ttx> zul: cool.
[14:32] <ttx> coffeedude: hey. the new sources worked for me as well, we should be all set. Some more review on the packaging today and I'll upload it tomorrow.
[14:33] <coffeedude> ttx: Wonderferful news !  Thanks :-)  I'll be online pretty constantly for the next few days so if anything comes up, let me know.  Thanks again for the help.
[14:33] <ttx> coffeedude: np, I'll ping you :)
[15:11] <scope006> i have a conversation topic if anyone is willing to discuss
[15:12] <scope006> what tools do you guys/gals like to use for log consolidation and review
[15:13] <scope006> i see that ubuntu ships with ebox, and there's always manually looking at logs
[15:14] <scope006> anyone in the community here have any tools / methods that they are really sold on using?
[15:24] <kpettit> Anybody have a good recommendation for backup software?  My servers are good, I need to figure out something for my desktops users. Most of my users are offsite with Windows or Mac laptops.
[15:25] <kpettit> It's been awhile sense I've had to deal with desktop users so Im not sure what's the best solution out there that uses Linux for the server component that also has a good Windows desktop piece
[15:26] <sommer> kpettit: backuppc is good for clients
[15:26] <kpettit> ok.  is it pretty easy use
[15:27] <sommer> kpettit: I think so... haven't really used it much, but it does backups at the share level, so you don't need to install additional software on the clients, which is nice
[15:28] <sommer> kpettit: it has a web interface for configuration and management... there should be a page or two on help.ubuntu.com/community about it
[15:29] <kpettit> oh cool.  thanks, I'll check it out
[15:30] <sommer> np
[15:46] <zul> ttx: samba uploaded
[15:47] <ttx> yay, one rgression down
[16:40] <bigbyrd> oks I am trying to use tomcat server and i need to edit tomcat-users.xml but it says i dont have permission....
[16:40] <bigbyrd> I thought when i login into the server i have root access, how do i not have access to this
[16:41] <bigbyrd> anyone home?
[16:41] <Vog-work> Hello bigbyrd
[16:42] <Vog-work> What are you using to edit the text file
[16:43] <bigbyrd> i installed gnome so i could graphically find the files easier... just right clicking and using txt editer, says at the top of page gedit, then below has the no access warning
[16:45] <Vog-work> Ok, so the problem is you need to be able to run those programs as root first.
[16:46] <Vog-work> It would be simpler to go into the command line, and use "sudo nano and the pathe to the file
[16:46] <Vog-work> for instance "sudo nano /var/www/domain/index.php" without the quotes
[16:47] <bigbyrd> ok dokie, will try
[16:47] <Vog-work> it will prompt you for the root password allowing you to edit the file.
[16:48] <Vog-work> Also try and read up on sudo on the ubuntu forms it will explain a lot.
[16:48] <goofey> but if still want to use the gui, try gtksudo texteditor_of_choice
[16:48] <goofey> ubottu: !sudo | bigbyrd
[16:48] <Vog-work> :) beat me to the punch goofey
[16:48] <goofey> :)
[16:49] <goofey> ubottu rocks
[16:49] <goofey> lol
[16:49] <bigbyrd> yeah, i am a windows user trying to set up server for office to do Document management system
[16:50] <Vog-work> bigbyrd: Well hopefully in time you'll feel like a linux user and will be able to help your office save money in licensing fees :)
[17:03] <yeason> I'm trying to setup a mail server and everything seems ok except I cannot connect to the server via telnet to test it. I get 'Connection closed by foreign host'. What's the problem here? I'm out of ideas
[17:11] <olcafo> what's your system? Default Postfix install on 8.10...?
[17:12] <yeason> more or less default, I've been tinkering for a few days attempting to customize it
[17:12] <yeason> and figure out what the problem is
[17:13] <olcafo> the first thing you should do before costomizing it is to make sure it works with the default settings. Makes things much easier to troubleshoot.
[17:13] <yeason> yea... well there's a huge margin dividing the things I do from the things I should do... =P
[17:13] <olcafo> do you have a firewall running on the machine blocking port 25?
[17:13] <yeason> yes I have a firewall, port 25 is forwarded to the mail server tho
[17:14] <yeason> and I've tried using the local IP address from the internal network and I get the same error
[17:14] <olcafo> is it hooked up to the internet? my favourite tool: www.mxtoolbox.com
[17:15] <yeason> lmfao... yea, it's hooked up to the internet...
[17:16] <yeason> I have no problem starting over from scratch on this if that's what you would recommend, try defaults next time
[17:18] <olcafo> just looking something up, hold up a sec.
[17:21] <olcafo> I know I might be stating the obvious here, but have you checked the mail logs?
[17:21] <olcafo> what do they say regarding the telnet session? does it even record it?
[17:21] <yeason> hang on a sec... let me find it
[17:23] <yeason> hmm... I've got my network ip wrong apparently... let me change it and try again
[17:24] <yeason> hmm... don't mind me, I'm just retarded...
[17:24] <W8TAH> good afternoon everyone -- (or morning or evening depending) ive a server install running that has for some inexplicable reason frozen at updating apt sources -- (roughly 70%) its been sitting there for over an hour -- what do i do?
[17:24] <yeason> I had my 'local networks' set wrong
[17:24] <olcafo> next time you'll know where to look ;)
[17:24] <yeason> yup =)
[17:24] <aurigus> crtl-C and start over
[17:25] <W8TAH> ugh - -ok
[17:25] <W8TAH> thanks
[17:25] <olcafo> could be that the server your downloading from became unavailable
[17:25] <W8TAH> ok
[17:25] <W8TAH> thanks
[17:25] <olcafo> I've had it happen to me on the canadian server. I changed to Japan'.
[17:27] <bosco_> does anyone know of a good website hits tracker with an ubuntu package
[17:28] <olcafo> webalizer
[17:37] <bosco_> olcafo, ok installed it via aptitude now what ?? do i have to create symlinks from my /var/www to get it to output ????
[17:38] <olcafo> the apache conf should be in /var/www/conf.d/
[17:38] <olcafo> you should just be able to go to www.yourwebsite.com/webalizer
[17:39] <olcafo> it will be available to the public by default I believe.
[17:39] <olcafo> you can set up htaccess to retrict it.
[17:42] <bosco_> k one sec
[17:43] <bosco_> olcafo, nope not available but it is logging in /var/www/webalizer/
[17:44] <olcafo> you can add a alias in you website's apache config to the webalizer directory.
[17:45] <bosco_> olcafo, huh???
[17:46] <bosco_> ln -s
[17:46] <bosco_> you mean symlinks
[17:46] <olcafo> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html
[17:46] <bosco_> thanks
[17:49] <bosco_> so i am linking /var/www/webalizer/ to /home/user/your-site/webalizer/
[17:49] <bosco_> with the totorial
[17:49] <olcafo> pretty much.
[17:49] <olcafo> if /home/user/ is where your site is
[17:50] <bosco_> yes
[17:50] <bosco_> why not just do it with ( ln -s ) symlinks
[17:51] <olcafo> keeping it in the apache conf files makes it easier to read and troubleshoot.
[17:51] <bosco_> ah ok
[17:52] <olcafo> also, I'm not sure apache would recognize the link... I've never actually tried it.
[18:03] <bosco_> olcafo, look at this
[18:03] <bosco_> http://pastebin.com/m26ee5489
[18:16] <Noble> Hi, Im having problems starting dhcp3-server. Its set to start on eth1, but somehow eth1 does not get activated on startup even though I have set it to use static IP
[18:16] <Noble> result, dhcp3 does not start
[18:17] <Noble> when i do "sudo ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.1" followed by "sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-sever start" it works
[18:17] <Noble> but I dont want to do that everytime it starts..
[18:17] <sommer> Noble: in /etc/network/interfaces do you have a "auto eth1" line?
[18:17] <Noble> yes
[18:18] <sommer> Noble: if you do a /etc/init.d/network restart does the interface come up?
[18:19] <Noble> failed to bring up eth1
[18:20] <sommer> Noble: are there any errors in /var/log/syslog?
[18:20] <sommer> Noble: you might also check dmesg | grep -i net
[18:20] <Noble> 2 sec
[18:21] <Noble> both gives me quite a lot output
[18:21] <Noble> not sure what im looking for
[18:22] <sommer> Noble: errors related to eth1
[18:22] <sommer> Noble: there should be something to hint at where the problem is
[18:23] <Noble> lets see, Don't seem to be have all the variables for eth1/inet
[18:23] <Noble> thats from /etc/init.d/networking
[18:24] <Noble> I have set adress netmask broadcast network
[18:24] <Noble> anything else i need?
[18:24] <sommer> Noble: gateway
[18:24] <Noble> I have no idea what to set as gateway, I have set up 2 nics into NAT
[18:25] <Noble> dhcp is on the internal
[18:25] <Noble> eth1 that is
[18:25] <sommer> Noble: maybe eth0?
[18:25] <Noble> lol probably, do I write the eth0 ip?
[18:26] <sommer> Noble: I'd think so... also you might lose network connection playing around with these options, so you might want to make sure you have physical access to the machine
[18:27] <Noble> Taken care of ;)
[18:27] <sommer> Noble: I'd give it a try then, can't hurt :)
[18:27] <Noble> rebooting the server.. 2 sec
[18:27] <Noble> im on the wifi so im up anyways
[18:27] <Noble> dont ask..
[18:29] <Noble> still fails
[18:29] <Noble> during startup it gives me something with rc2 and eth1 not found
[18:29] <Noble> flashes by so i cant see
[18:31] <Noble> wait, thats an old script of mine
[18:31] <Noble> removed :P
[18:34] <Noble> Would it solve my problem if I just set eth1 to look for dhcp?
[18:41] <Noble> Ok, now everything is working, with NAT and shit. Hurray.
[18:42] <Noble> Still needs to manually set eth1s ip and then restart dhcp3 and bind9
[18:42] <Noble> is it possible to make a startup script for this?
[19:45] <Hans67521> hello all
[19:46] <Hans67521> has any here used fetchmail
[19:47] <_ruben> this isnt the place to hold polls .. i assume you have another fetchmail related question as well?
[19:47] <Hans67521> yes sorry
[19:47] <Hans67521> i am using ubuntu8.10 server with postfix dovecot for email
[19:47] <Hans67521> i am not using virtual users
[19:48] <Hans67521> must i use procmail with fetchmail?
[19:48] <Hans67521> my isp is hosting my email, id like to download the mail with fetchmail and push the email thru postfix/spamassassin
[20:01] <Hans67521> how should my postfix main.cf be confiured?
[20:08] <bigbyrd> i think i installed tomcat twice!!!
[20:15] <Noble> Hi, during startup setting static IP fails, which results in dhcp3 not starting. Suggestions?
[22:14] <albertico> hi
[22:15] <albertico> has anyone configured iscsi on ubuntu server 8.04?
[22:16] <soren> albertico: Yes.
[22:17] <albertico> soren, I have been configuring a server to use a Dell MD3000i, but got lost on the part identifying the device
[22:18] <albertico> these are the steps I did: 1)configured the iscsi.conf file 2)iscsiadm -m discovery -t sendtargets -p <MD3000i IP>
[22:19] <albertico> 3) iscsiadm --mode node --targetname <LUN ID> -p <MD3000i IP> --login
[22:19] <maesx> hello, I would like to add a package cd of ubuntu-server
[22:21] <albertico> soren, then I don't know where to look for the device
[22:23] <soren> albertico: Try in /dev/disk/by-path, for instance.
[22:23] <pjsturgeon> any idea what could be causing a SATA II HDD (plugged into a PCI SATA card) to swap between sda and sdb on boot?
[22:24] <pjsturgeon> it takes the point out of an automated system if each time i have to SSH and swap the fstab entry
[22:26] <giovani3> pjsturgeon: use UUIDs instead
[22:26] <soren> pjsturgeon: That's *exactly* why Ubuntu uses UUID based mounting.
[22:28] <soren> pjsturgeon: The order in which the kernel discovers stuff is semi-random. Making assumptions about it is a recipe for disaster.
[22:28] <soren> maesx: What do you mean?
[22:30] <maesx> soren: add a Paket the CD
[22:30] <soren> maesx: Which package?
[22:32] <pjsturgeon> soren & giovani3: I currently use /dev/sdb1       /media/second-drive     ext3    defaults        0       0  what is correct for a basic ext3 mount?
[22:32] <maesx> soren : one created by my
[22:33] <soren> maesx: Do you want it added to the official CD's or do you just want to have it on a single CD?
[22:33] <soren> pjsturgeon: Use vol_id to find the UUID.
[22:34] <maesx> soren: added to the official CD's
[22:35] <soren> maesx: It needs to be in the archive first.
[22:36] <soren> maesx: You should talk to #ubuntu-motu about including it in the archive.
[22:37] <maesx> soren: is one deb
[22:37] <soren> maesx: That doesn't change anything :)
[22:37] <pjsturgeon> soren: cheers, testing now
[22:38] <albertico> soren, the server was restarted... I executed the discovery and login commands again... checked /dev/disks/by-path and found two lun devices registered... but then, if I restart the open-iscsi daemon, I get a "no records found" message and can't find the device anymore
[22:38] <maesx> soren : thanks
[22:39] <soren> albertico: Sorry, it's been a while since I've dealt with iSCSI. I forget how that's supposed to work.
[22:40] <albertico> soren, oh well, thanks anyway
[22:40] <albertico> Has anyone dealt with iSCSI?
[22:46] <albertico> iSCSI anyone?
[22:52] <hobo> Any one here have any knowledge on getting broadband cards working?
[23:36] <Vog-work> hobo: what sort of card?
[23:37] <Vog-work> you question might be sest answered in #ubuntu not #ubuntu-server