| ara | morning all :) | 07:12 |
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| ara | remember that we have a testing day focusing the new notification system: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090316 | 07:32 |
| ara | hey jcollado :-) | 07:37 |
| jcollado | ara: Buenos días | 07:37 |
| sabdfl | moin moin everybody | 07:53 |
| ara | morning sabdfl | 07:53 |
| * ara reboots | 07:57 | |
| sabdfl | hi mdz | 07:59 |
| mdz | sabdfl: good morning. helping out with some testing today? | 08:00 |
| sabdfl | indeed :-) | 08:00 |
| eeejay | morning folks | 08:00 |
| sabdfl | keen to see how this work has landed and where the glitches are | 08:01 |
| DisSsha | Hi, can someone tell me how Ubuntu tests regression before add upgrade package ? I don't find your framework or list of test cases | 08:06 |
| * eeejay notes that you will need this for testing: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/Notification?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=notify-osd.py | 08:07 | |
| mdz | sabdfl: there are about 21 bugs which the desktop team feels need to be addressed for beta freeze (which is this Thursday) | 08:17 |
| ara | I am testing duration of notifications | 08:18 |
| ara | brightness notifications should last 2 seconds | 08:18 |
| ara | but they are lasting 5s | 08:18 |
| ara | I have filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/343553 | 08:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 343553 in notify-osd "Brightness notifications have a duration of 5000ms" [Undecided,New] | 08:19 |
| ara | eeejay: do you experience the same? | 08:19 |
| eeejay | ara: i filed a bug too, it was invalidated since it is expected behavior | 08:19 |
| * eeejay looks for bug number | 08:20 | |
| ara | mdz: is there a public list of those bugs somewhere? | 08:21 |
| eeejay | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/342291 | 08:21 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 342291 in notify-osd "Synchronous bubbles last for 5 seconds" [Undecided,Invalid] | 08:21 |
| mdz | ara: I'm emailing a list right now, would you like a CC (and is there anyone else I should include)? | 08:21 |
| mdz | (note these are not all notifications issues but a general DX team list) | 08:21 |
| ara | mdz: yes, CC me. pedro also would like to know about this. thanks :) | 08:22 |
| ara | eeejay: the bug I filed is a different one | 08:23 |
| * eeejay looks | 08:23 | |
| ara | eeejay: I am experiencing 5 seconds for brightness, even though I haven't an asynchronous one | 08:23 |
| * eeejay tries | 08:24 | |
| mdz | ara: sent | 08:24 |
| eeejay | ara: yup. good catch! | 08:24 |
| ara | mdz: ta! | 08:25 |
| ara | morning davmor2 :) | 08:27 |
| eeejay | morning davmor2 | 08:27 |
| davmor2 | ara: morning | 08:27 |
| davmor2 | eeejay: morning too | 08:28 |
| davmor2 | morning everyone else :) | 08:28 |
| davmor2 | ara: before I get started today keybuk has asked me to test the new hardened version of the lvm/partitioning fix and evand has asked me to test the latest wubi against vista | 08:30 |
| davmor2 | just to let you know :) | 08:30 |
| ara | davmor2: :-) np | 08:30 |
| * eeejay grabs breakfast | 08:44 | |
| DisSsha | Please, what is Motu ? | 08:57 |
| davmor2 | Masters Of The Universe | 08:57 |
| davmor2 | devs that maintain the universe repo | 08:58 |
| DisSsha | ok thanks | 08:59 |
| * ara takes a break | 09:30 | |
| davmor2 | ara: when you get back on startup do you get notify-osd info about your interweb connection ie. wifi connected, ethernet connected etc? | 09:33 |
| eeejay | davmor2: you should, yes. | 09:51 |
| eeejay | davmor2: when nm establishes a connection | 09:51 |
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| ara | davmor2: I do get those notifications | 10:14 |
| davmor2 | so just me then :) I get them if I click on it again just not from startup | 10:29 |
| Shane_Fagan | Is anyone having trouble with pulseaudio in jaunty? | 10:31 |
| davmor2 | you need to be more specific than that Shane_Fagan | 10:32 |
| Shane_Fagan | Jaunty 64bit. Pulseaudio makes weird noises (crackling) and the only way to fix it is to restart pulseaudio or restart the computer. | 10:33 |
| ara | Shane_Fagan: does this bug apply to your problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/301755 | 10:34 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 301755 in pulseaudio "Crackling noise after update to pulseaudio" [Low,Fix released] | 10:34 |
| ara | Shane_Fagan: maybe updating should fix your problem | 10:35 |
| Shane_Fagan | All upgrades installed it happened 10 minutes ago | 10:35 |
| Shane_Fagan | It has been happening for about week | 10:39 |
| davmor2 | I'm not getting crackly sound from today's cd | 10:39 |
| weboide | What is the "attached program" in the test cases? | 10:40 |
| davmor2 | weboide: click on attachments | 10:41 |
| eeejay | weboide: and get notify-osd.py | 10:41 |
| weboide | Thanks davmor2 and eeejay ;) | 10:41 |
| eeejay | weboide: no no, thank _you_ for testing ;) | 10:42 |
| weboide | hehe :) | 10:42 |
| davmor2 | meh ubiquity is broken today :( | 10:44 |
| Shane_Fagan | My problem isnt persistent so ill wait to see if an update fixes it. | 10:48 |
| davmor2 | Shane_Fagan: is your issue only on the login music | 10:49 |
| Shane_Fagan | No login music was fixed. Its with the regular sound. | 10:49 |
| davmor2 | right I'll try it out when I get a working system :) | 10:50 |
| davmor2 | Shane_Fagan: what audio hw do you have? | 10:51 |
| Shane_Fagan | Nvidia | 10:51 |
| davmor2 | Shane_Fagan: type in lspci -vvnn and add it to the bug above and say your still having issues on today's date | 10:52 |
| davmor2 | Shane_Fagan: better still type in lspci -vvnn > lspci.txt and add the .txt file | 10:53 |
| Shane_Fagan | I already posted it as a comment. | 10:55 |
| Shane_Fagan | davmor2: Did you find anything interesting in my lspci -vvnn ? | 11:07 |
| davmor2 | Shane_Fagan: similar hw to what I've got so I can have a play after :) | 11:07 |
| Shane_Fagan | What happens is that it works normally then I leave my computer for a while (long enough for the monitor to go on standby). Then when I get back the sound crackles. | 11:10 |
| davmor2 | okay I'll try it out after :) | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | eeejay, ara: notify-osd does do the connections in todays image :) | 11:22 |
| eeejay | davmor2: is it not supposed to? | 11:22 |
| ara | davmor2: good to know | 11:22 |
| davmor2 | eeejay: yes :) | 11:22 |
| davmor2 | it didn't in alpha 6 but does now :) | 11:23 |
| eeejay | davmor2: ah, good news! you don't hear enough good news on testing days :) | 11:23 |
| davmor2 | eeejay: your not meant to we are looking for broken stuff not fixed ;) | 11:24 |
| eeejay | davmor2: i know, what a depressing job.. | 11:24 |
| davmor2 | eeejay: No it isn't you make Ubuntu better :) | 11:25 |
| eeejay | davmor2: true, but thanks to undertakers, there are no dead bodies on the street either :) | 11:25 |
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| ara | eeejay: congrats on the new accerciser release ;-) | 11:41 |
| eeejay | thanks ara, no more bugs | 11:42 |
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| svesmeralda | This is my first time on an IRC. I have been using Ubuntu for almost 2 years and would like to get involved with the the testing. I have some experience with virtualbox and have it installed. Any help will be appreciated. | 14:30 |
| davmor2 | Hi Chris Gregan you back home dude? | 14:37 |
| ara | svesmeralda: Hello, we maintain a website with the available test cases at http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com | 14:39 |
| ara | svesmeralda: we also run weekly testdays on mondays. To see the topic of today's test day you can check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090316 | 14:40 |
| svesmeralda | ara: Okay, I will go there to see what it is about. I am just feeling my way through and should have the hang of it soon. Thanks. | 14:40 |
| nicolaide | hi... When you talk about Start attached program. in the test cases... What try to say? to start the notifications with someting like notify-send testingNotifiation in the console? | 14:50 |
| davmor2 | nicolaide: if you click on attachments there is an app to download :) | 14:51 |
| davmor2 | run that app and it will trigger the various notifications :) | 14:52 |
| nicolaide | upssss | 14:52 |
| nicolaide | my mistake... i need to sleep more :P | 14:52 |
| davmor2 | :) | 14:53 |
| nicolaide | nice... all tested now :P | 14:59 |
| ara | nicolaide: you can also play around and find new test cases :) | 15:01 |
| nicolaide | nice... | 15:02 |
| nicolaide | guys... if i make a new notification and i play with the sound by increasing and decreasing the volume, the first notification steel showed... Only desapear if the sound notification are closed before i finish to "play with the sound". The result i expect is that... After 5 seconds the first notification need to be closed and no need to depend of other notifications... Im rigth? | 15:06 |
| * ara reads | 15:09 | |
| ara | eeejay: this is a similar test case ^ to the one we talked in the sprint, but the other way round. do you know more? | 15:10 |
| eeejay | ara, nicolaide, yes, let me fish out the bug number again... davidbarth explained the behavior there | 15:11 |
| nicolaide | the result i spect is similar like the first mockup showed by mark here... http://www.markshuttleworth.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/jaunty904_notifications_example1_web_092.swf ... see when jorge talk and the wifi signal lost... | 15:11 |
| nicolaide | okey | 15:11 |
| nicolaide | i go to lunch... back in half hour! | 15:12 |
| nicolaide | thanks! | 15:12 |
| eeejay | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/342291 | 15:12 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 342291 in notify-osd "Synchronous bubbles last for 5 seconds" [Undecided,Invalid] | 15:12 |
| eeejay | nicolaide: see if the last comment in this bug makes sense ^ | 15:12 |
| nicolaide | eeejay: i back... yeah... i read the last comment, but i like the example of the notifications that i showed in the example... other implementation can be that... if the volume notification are showed just extend the time of the other notification 50% of the original time displayed... what do you think? | 15:43 |
| sbeattie | dumb notification question; is the app or notify-osd supposed to have the final say as to how long the notification bubble appears? | 15:45 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: notify-osd does | 15:46 |
| davmor2 | looks like it's pretty much set to 5 seconds | 15:46 |
| sbeattie | it does; is it supposed to? Is that the intended behavior? | 15:46 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: looks like it yes bug 342291 | 15:47 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 342291 in notify-osd "Synchronous bubbles last for 5 seconds" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342291 | 15:48 |
| sbeattie | that is, if an app requests a 1 second timeout (assuming it asks "correctly", which may not be true in the example I have), is the ex | 15:49 |
| sbeattie | erk, nm | 15:49 |
| ara | sbeattie: what it is your use case? | 15:52 |
| sbeattie | oh, I was just poking at notify-send (from the libnotify-bin package) and seeing how it behaved under notify-osd. | 15:53 |
| ara | sbeattie: those should last 2seconds | 15:53 |
| ara | sbeattie: sorry, 5s | 15:54 |
| sbeattie | notify-send --expire-time=1 foo lasts for 5 seconds. | 15:54 |
| ara | sbeattie: yes, that's expected | 15:54 |
| sbeattie | thanks. | 15:54 |
| ara | 5 sec for asyn notifications, 2s for sync | 15:54 |
| ara | sync for things like: ejecting a cd, changing the volume, brightness, etc | 15:55 |
| * eeejay heads out | 16:18 | |
| ara | eeejay: have a nice flight :) | 16:21 |
| * ara heads out | 16:48 | |
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| stgraber | ogasawara: around ? | 17:41 |
| ogasawara | stgraber: yup, what's up | 17:41 |
| stgraber | ogasawara: are you familiar with CIFS in Hardy's kernel ? We had some weird error message at a customer and possibly two related kernel panics. | 17:42 |
| stgraber | ogasawara: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132097/ | 17:43 |
| ogasawara | stgraber: I'm not really familiar, but I could try to investigate a bit | 17:43 |
| ogasawara | stgraber: which kernel version (cat /proc/version_signature) and did it just recently start happening (ie regression) | 17:44 |
| stgraber | ogasawara: not a regression AFAIK, happened the first time we tried cifs there | 17:46 |
| stgraber | Ubuntu 2.6.24-23.48-server | 17:46 |
| ogasawara | stgraber: don't suppose you were able to get logs of the panic? | 17:53 |
| ogasawara | stgraber: I see a few samba bugs with similar error messages, but both have been marked invalid | 17:54 |
| ogasawara | stgraber: bug 207671 and bug 209402 | 17:54 |
| stgraber | ogasawara: unfortuantely not, they're now in a bladecenter so next time it happens I'll be able to get it, though I hope it never will :) | 17:54 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 207671 in samba "CIFS VFS error each 4 seconds in Ubuntu 8.04" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207671 | 17:54 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 209402 in samba "Samba shares die with input/output error" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209402 | 17:54 |
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| stgraber | ogasawara: doesn't seem to be what we're experiencing there, we get those messages when mounting a samba share then everything works fine except in two cases where we got kernel panics | 18:12 |
| stgraber | for now we're doing testing on that solution but it should be moved to production for 40k users in a week or two :) | 18:13 |
| stgraber | ogasawara: who's likely to know about cifs related bugs ? | 18:32 |
| ogasawara | stgraber: good question, I don't think we have a specific expert on the team. | 18:35 |
| stgraber | ogasawara: I believe slangasek is familiar with samba but I don't know about cifs | 18:39 |
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| apw | cr3, i thought there was going to be an upload of checkbox for alpha-6 | 20:27 |
| cr3 | apw: tomorrow | 20:27 |
| apw | that doesn't seem to have happened, and we don't therefore have the test scripts out there | 20:28 |
| cr3 | apw: I wanted to get your logging window in before then, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen | 20:28 |
| apw | hmmm, i was sure there was meant to be an upload for a-6 generally to carry existing things | 20:28 |
| apw | so we will _definatly_ have something for beta freeze? else our suspend call will go to hell | 20:29 |
| apw | s/call/call for testing/ | 20:29 |
| cr3 | apw: yes, tomorrow for sure | 20:32 |
| cr3 | apw: I had requested for an update before FF in bug #331402, but never got a response | 20:34 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 331402 in checkbox "Please update Checkbox to latest stable 0.6 in Jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331402 | 20:34 |
| cr3 | I guess I'll close that bug... | 20:35 |
| apw | or use it to push the 0.7 update on ? | 20:35 |
| apw | let me know if you are having trouble getting the upload done | 20:36 |
| cr3 | schwuk: ^^^ | 20:36 |
| apw | i will go twist some arms to make sure it gets done | 20:36 |
| cr3 | apw: he'll be taking care of the upload | 20:36 |
| cr3 | ... because I seem to be on the /ignore list ;) | 20:37 |
| crashsystems | I'm not seeing any notify-osd action when I change brightness or volume. | 20:37 |
| apw | our testing strategy for beta depends on it, and we have visibility from on high, so i will be checking up on it too | 20:37 |
| schwuk | apw: Cool - thanks | 20:37 |
| apw | schwuk, cr3, if you could let me know when the upload is ready/submitted whatever and where i can track it, and i'll do what i can to greese the wheels | 20:38 |
| schwuk | apw: will do. | 20:38 |
| cr3 | apw: is it alright if schwuk simply subscribes you to the bug? | 20:38 |
| cr3 | schwuk: just make sure to set the summary to "enlarge your manhood" so that apw pays particular attention to it | 20:39 |
| schwuk | cr3: I thought only you read those e-mails ;) | 20:40 |
| apw | heheh | 20:40 |
| cr3 | schwuk: not only read but respond too! | 20:40 |
| crashsystems | So now that I've found something with notify-osd that does not work on my system, what do I do? Is there some diagnostics for me to run, or somewhere to report the issue? | 20:41 |
| cr3 | crashsystems: you might like to simply report a bug in launchpad or make sure one is not there already | 20:43 |
| crashsystems | ok, will do | 20:43 |
| cr3 | crashsystems: thanks! | 20:43 |
| crashsystems | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/notify-osd/+bug/343896 | 21:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 343896 in notify-osd "No notifications for volume & brightness change" [Undecided,New] | 21:02 |
| mrooney | crashsystems: ahh yes that is a popular one | 21:04 |
| crashsystems | I did a bunch of searching but did not see it in LP | 21:05 |
| crashsystems | unless it was filed without using the words "volume" and/or "brightness" | 21:05 |
| mrooney | yeah that is a dupe | 21:05 |
| mrooney | nope I think the title is almost identical :) | 21:05 |
| crashsystems | when why did search not find it? | 21:05 |
| mrooney | well it may not be upstream | 21:05 |
| crashsystems | so I reported it in upstream, instead of, say, "jaunty"? | 21:06 |
| mrooney | ah, I was thinking of bug 331311 | 21:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 331311 in gnome-settings-daemon "volume/brightness notifications are blank (all black)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331311 | 21:07 |
| mrooney | which is apparently fixed | 21:07 |
| crashsystems | and is that fix built and in the repos? | 21:07 |
| crashsystems | also, I hear talk of icons, so take not that I'm _not_ running the default icon theme | 21:08 |
| mrooney | crashsystems: here we go: bug 338837 | 21:09 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 338837 in notify-osd "New notification does not work if icon theme is changed from Human" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338837 | 21:09 |
| mrooney | that also has a work around that apparently works | 21:09 |
| mrooney | I'll mark yours as a dupe, but thanks for filing because you caused me to find the real one :) | 21:09 |
| crashsystems | lol | 21:09 |
| crashsystems | Yeah, I changed my icon theme to human and it worked. I much prefer Mashup though | 21:11 |
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