[00:28] T_T [00:36] I'm resizing my windows partition but the only thing I want to keep is My Documents. If I just delete everything else will that cause problems? [00:38] thanks in advance if anyone knows [00:39] It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. As far as Xubuntu, it doesn't care if there is a windows partition. [00:39] Unless you installed using Wubi [00:40] As far as Windows, to the best of my memory from 10 years ago, it won't run if you delete it [00:41] I copied my files from windows to a cd, then copied them into ~/home, and haven't cared since [00:41] What I'm trying to do is resize my very large windows partition and the only thing I want to keep on there is My Documents. it doesn't need to boot. [00:42] and Xubuntu is a separate installation, right? Should work fine [00:43] Thanks. After this I can finally get windows off of here :) [00:43] you are not sharing files, so you should be able to read them from Xubuntu with out any problems [00:44] That's what I was thinking but it's always best to double check. === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [00:51] bpmarkham: still lurking about? any luck? [02:17] can I make a DOS boot disk with Ubuntu? [02:18] Yes [02:19] Get an image from bootdisk.com that is not a zip/install file. Then use dd to make the floppy from the image [04:45] Is there a menu-editor in the default live-CD that I can use to access the Application menu contents and review them? [04:48] 2ndly... I'm seeing some window-decoration corruption for Terminal. I suspect it is to do with a previous (lower) screen resolution, but can't find where xfce4-terminal is storing its settings === awway is now known as lukinfore [08:29] I use the minimize windows to desktop option on, it works nice, but I need the icons to appear on all workspaces, not just one. How do I do that? [08:33] did that not make sense to someone or does noone know? :D [08:35] use windowlist applet? [08:36] that would be possible i guess, but it takes away precious space [08:37] plus i really like the minimize to desktop feature and I guess there's just one simple option missing [08:43] k, another approach: where is the file where settings of xfce settings manager -> Desktop get saved? [10:28] <_Pete_> hello [10:28] <_Pete_> how do I use XFCE-desktop with freenx? [10:36] !freenx | _Pete_ [10:36] _Pete_: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX [10:38] <_Pete_> TheSheep: yes thanks but I have it already setup but dont know how to use xfce with that, on configure dialog there's dropdown menu which desktop to use: kde/gnome/cde/xdm/custom [10:38] <_Pete_> but not xfce [10:41] then use custom [10:41] and put startxfce4 there [10:44] <_Pete_> thanks, that was it [13:31] good morning folks [13:41] Hi.. I installed Xubuntu 8.10.. But its really really slow.. can anyone help me out? [13:43] <_Pete_> what are your computers specs? [13:44] 1.5 Ghz Celeron M, 256 MB RAM, 40GB HDD.. [13:45] I couldn't install xubuntu from the live cd... it kept hangin up....so I used the alternate CD.. but its really really slow.. [13:45] jayant412: windows display slowly? [13:45] yeah.. and installing packages takes a very long time.... [13:46] jayant412: what graphics card do ou have? [13:46] and How do I direct msgs to a purticular user?.. This is my first time on IRC really. [13:46] jayant412: type in terminal 'lspci | grep VGA' to tell [13:46] jayant412: don't use private messages, others want to learn too [13:47] you do that with '/query user' [13:47] where user is the name f the person you want to query [13:50] i mean.. Like how you get "jayant412: don't use private messages, others want to learn too".. my name at the start.... [13:50] and sorry about that PM.. [13:51] no problem :) [13:51] just type the beginning of the name and press tab [13:51] TheSheep: Ah.. Nice.. Thanks.. :) [13:51] you can complete with tab in many places, in the terminal too [13:52] anywys.. I have an Intel graphics chipset thing.. 128 MB.. 910 GML express.. I think thats the name.. [13:52] ah.. Okay.. I'll remember that.. [13:53] can you check the text file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what driver you are using? [13:53] oh.. and right now I am on windows.. So.. Can you tell me how to get what you want to know on windows? XP? [13:53] it should be mentioned somewhere in that gibberish [13:53] hmm... [13:53] lol... I couldn't use xubuntu anymore.. it was just too slow... [13:54] that's very strange [13:55] The xubuntu installer said I had 247 MB of RAM to be specific.. and the Live CD just wouldn't work.. [13:58] can i have too many packages installed?? Can they slow down the system?? Coz I think i have like over 1000 packages installed.. [14:02] <_Pete_> jayant412: no, only running programs slows downs system [14:06] _Pete_: Oh, alright.. [14:06] can I try something to make it run faster or something?? [14:07] <_Pete_> I think the best way to speed up things is to get more memory [14:11] hmmm.. how do i do that with xubuntu?? coz this is the first time I installed something Unix like on my system and I have no idea what to do.. [14:18] <_Pete_> to get memory? go to the shop and buy them :) [14:19] _Pete_: :) I could do that.. :P [14:25] anywys.. I gotta run for dinner.. Thanks a lot for all your help guys.. See ya.. [15:29] hi [16:28] I'm looking to install openoffice.org with synaptic.. the version says 1:2.4.1-11-ubuntustuff is this oo.o v2.4.1? [16:28] and if so, what's the 1:foo about? and is v3 available? [16:31] yeh, its 2.4.1 [16:35] The extra stuff is so ubuntu knows the changes it made [16:36] v3 is in Jaunty [16:37] But I don't think it is packaged for intrepid. You can install it from the openoffice website, though. It will even work without removing the existing version [16:39] hello [16:40] i wonder if i could selectivly set a windows transparence [16:40] just like one is able to do with compiz, just without compiz, just with the xfce compositor [16:45] btQuark_, you'd need a transparent theme. Check out www.xfce-look.org [16:52] brandonban6: i'm not sure we mean the same: i want standard opaque windows, and an option in the windows menu to set its transparence [16:52] i already have transparent decorations which is fine, i just would the entire content of selected windows to be transparent [16:53] do i need a transparent theme for that too? [16:57] Hello [16:58] Anyone ever have a problem with the text under their desktop icons just being vertical lines? [16:59] Anubis: have you changed the fonts? [17:00] I made them a bit smaller. [17:00] They were rather large. [17:00] did you make them smaller with the DPI settings? [17:01] You may have to change the font to something else, but you should try log out / log in again first [17:01] I did log out/in [17:01] I did not make them smaller with the dpi settings. [17:02] And they were readable before making them smaller? [17:02] I went back to the default settings. Evidently it was a theme issue. [17:03] Thanks for the help, tho. [17:03] okay. Sometimes just picking a different font will work, too [17:03] no problem. [17:09] btQuark_, sorry I misunderstood your request. I don't know if that is manageable, why not use compiz? [17:10] i like the xfwm [17:10] compiz sometimes is too anoying [17:11] although i now that i can configure the hell out of it [17:11] ahh, cool. Yeah, I'm not sure :( [17:19] Hey guys - question on "support" vs download availability. I have a machine running 7.04, which I understand is past its support window. To me that would me no new updates are being made available, but does it also mean that existing packages/updates have been removed as well? [17:19] I ask because I would like to install a package or two, but apt-get can no longer fetch from the archive. [17:19] Slor, I believe the packages should still be available [17:20] for instance: [17:20] root@pengo:/home/james# apt-get install links [17:20] Reading package lists... Done [17:20] Building dependency tree [17:20] Reading state information... Done [17:20] The following NEW packages will be installed: [17:20] links [17:20] 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [17:20] Need to get 368kB of archives. [17:20] !paste [17:20] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [17:20] After unpacking 901kB of additional disk space will be used. [17:20] WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! [17:20] links [17:20] Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y [17:20] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe links 0.99+1.00pre12-1.1 [17:20] 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] [17:20] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/links/links_0.99+1.00pre12-1.1_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] [17:20] Slor, see the ubottu message above ;-) [17:20] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? [17:20] oh- sorry - didn't mean to do a flood [17:21] If I do an apt-get update, about half of the messages are 404 errors downloading the package lists [17:21] yeah, my bad vin [17:22] What I see is no 7.04 for Xubuntu [17:22] a single-line for instance (I hope): Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] [17:22] Ah they have indeed been removed [17:22] Or at least, they're not at packages.ubuntu.com [17:22] The old and new packages are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/ [17:23] was my next question. :) Where do I change the repository URLs? [17:23] Give me a minute to go look again [17:23] thanks [17:25] Slor, why not do a fresh install to an LTS release [17:25] much longer support cycle [17:25] 2yrs i think [17:26] Well, this isn't exactly a current machine, and I'd prefer even in 2 years not to have to reinstall to have access to the latest packages. No new updates, I perfectly understand. [17:27] actually, this 7.04 install is just about 2 years old [17:27] Can't find them. Can only find ubuntu, kubuntu [17:27] It's actually three years of updates :) [17:27] Yes, standard life is 18 months, LTS is 3 years [17:27] is xfce power manager going to be used in 9.04 as default, or is it still gnome [17:27] Isn't the archive common to all ubuntu releases, or do I misunderstand that? [17:28] Yes it is, I think charlie-tca is look for CD images (?) [17:28] It is not common, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ [17:28] I can not find the old-release xubuntu images [17:28] charlie-tca, he's looking for repo's [17:29] right [17:30] There aren't any for 7.04 anymore. They are only maintained for the current releases [17:30] 7.04 has been EOL for 6 months [17:30] 6.06 and 7.10 will be EOL in April [17:31] Does the Feisty directory on the url not contain the repo? [17:31] No just CD images [17:31] i personal think ubuntu support releases for to long [17:31] What url? [17:32] the one you noted above charlie [17:33] I guess my hope is that there is a mirror of the last 7.04 packages kept somewhere [17:35] hmmm - this looks like it has the feisty versions of links in it: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/links/ === rocko is now known as english === english is now known as rocko [17:38] where would I reconfig apt-get to use old-releases.ubuntu.com rather than us.archive.ubuntu.com [17:38] /etc/apt/sources.list [17:39] i'll save a copy and see if this gets me what I want [17:39] You really should upgrade to a current release soon. You have to do it one version at a time, and next month 7.10 is no longer supported too [17:39] charlie-tca, you totally beat me! :) [17:39] * charlie-tca did it! [17:39] last I heard, trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 had its issues. [17:40] slor.... everything has issues [17:40] why not do a fresh install [17:40] I think staying at 7.04 is going to have issues [17:40] but w/o updating... you'll have more [17:40] There are no security updates, no support, ... [17:40] And 8.04 will be supported until April 2011 [17:40] since you'll be running on out of date packages [17:40] ...what charlie said :P [17:41] Also, you can do a fresh install with the /home directory on a separate partition so that that won't be as much of an issue in the future [17:41] Current versions of applications won't work, eventually, nothing works right and you can not upgrade, you have to install fresh [17:41] home's already on a separate partition. [17:41] Well, then why not do a fresh install? ;-) [17:41] slor.... GOOD! [17:41] I'm on dated hardware and not looking to upgrade. [17:42] just looking for access to the existing packages [17:42] I have upgraded a couple from 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04 without actually using 7.10 [17:42] If you actually want to *use* that hardware you better upgrade ;-) But it's your choice, of course [17:42] what specs is it? [17:42] But I think 6.10 and 7.04 had more issues for me than 7.10 and 8.04 [17:42] Slor: xu still has the same design goals it had before [17:42] there is no real hardware requirements increase from 7.04 to 8.10 [17:42] (run on older hw better then full-on ubuntu) [17:43] neozen, that's not the sole design goal ;-) [17:43] Although the ATI Rage Pro video card is no longer working [17:43] But let's not get into that :P [17:43] vinnl: of course not [17:43] yeah, I gotcha. And your recommendations are duly noted. :) [17:43] Good ;-) [17:43] vinnl: but when you've got older hw... you want it to be :P [17:43] Hehe [17:43] That's an interesting coincidence - my video card actually may BE a rage pro [17:43] xD [17:43] why isnt the rage pro not supported anymore? [17:43] lspci? [17:44] what's a command line to get my video card spec? [17:44] I don't remember if it worked in 8.04, but it sure quit in 8.10 and 9.04 [17:44] (I'm remote) [17:44] sudo lshw [17:44] slor: ssh? [17:44] yeah [17:44] ATI dropped it completely from the drivers now [17:44] charlie-tca: ...yuk [17:44] Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS [17:45] compatibility issues with xorg [17:45] hmm, i though xorg manage the old cards [17:45] i have a 7000, i have to use xorg drivers cause ati have never released drivers for this card under linux [17:45] xorg has to have a driver. ATI is proprietary and won't give out the specs so they can be supported [17:45] same with all ati cards, which are 8500 ^ below [17:47] lshw - is that akin to dmidecode? [17:47] charlie, people with a rage pro could use vesa or a generic driver [17:47] they dont need the 3d support [17:48] chewit: you might get 640 x 480 out of it, too [17:48] No, I take it back, vesa don't work [17:48] yeh, maybe 800x600 [17:49] oh [17:49] There is no generic driver anymore. xorg 1.6 won't work with it. [17:49] I have the card. I have tried several times [17:50] charlie, does 9.04 use the xfce power manager by default or gnome [17:50] At least in Jaunty, you can not use the card [17:50] ah ok [17:50] We are hoping to get xfce-power-manager in, but right now it is gnome [17:50] that did it for me guys - thanks for the discussion [17:50] ah, i have seen its in the repos though [17:50] Good luck, Slor [17:51] oh, and I already have 8.10 on a newer machine somewhere. :) [17:51] :-) [17:51] well, u need to try and get it in. gnome power manager is too heavy for xfce [17:51] yeah, that **(})DPU ATI rage is just obsolete, I'm afraid [17:51] This is one of my hardware hand-me-down machines. [17:52] When I get a new card for my current machine, I'll have a GF3 to move down to it at least. [17:52] Hey, I got a couple of them. I am running one with a STB Velocity 4MB card, and it works [17:52] :) [17:53] Also, the matrox card is still working, but it is harder to get set up [17:54] been a while since I tried to find a distro that's installable on my Latitude LM. [17:54] (40MB memory, if I remember right) [17:54] some question: is there any chance that pulseaudio would get decently integrated into xubuntu? [17:54] Yeah, that's a little light. I tried to install xubuntu Jaunty, with 128MB ram, and it refused [17:54] btQuark_: not in jaunty [17:55] I did a low mem RH install a number of years ago on it. [17:55] I bet my Slack (circa '95) cd set would work, but it probably wouldn't suppor the video or network. [17:55] Maybe yellowdog linux would work? [17:55] hm. if its going to come some day, integrated better than into ubuntu that would be something [17:56] dunno. That machines dedicated to other low-performance-requiring tasks. :) [17:56] btQuark_: that is what is holding it up. It would be preferred to have working sound [17:57] I assume the graphical software manager simply accesses apt's repositories [17:57] Slor, yes [17:57] * charlie-tca got beat on that one [17:58] okay, back to compiling [18:01] salu Laserbeak44 [18:01] hello neozen [18:04] Anyone ever have their cursor look like a box of jibberish? [18:05] It's exceptionally annoying. [18:05] what file format are the cursors in? [18:06] It's just my normal pointer, but it looks like a box for some reason. [18:07] A rather large box. [18:07] I don't know what file format the cursors are in. [18:07] that is strange [18:07] Very [18:07] And annoying. [18:07] I'm assuming you're just using one of the out of the box cursors? [18:07] You can occasionally see the regular mouse pointer under it. [18:07] I'm using the one that came with xubuntu. [18:07] I didn't change any of them. [18:07] LordAnubis, is this the first time you're experiencing this? [18:07] In all applications and desktop? [18:07] Could it be a theme issue? [18:08] Yes, vinnl. It's a fairly new install. [18:08] LordAnubis, you have never rebooted, logged out or whatever? [18:08] *since [18:08] Yes [18:08] Several times [18:08] :S [18:09] Tell me about it. [18:09] I thought it might be a theme issue. [18:12] Anyone have a clue on to why this happens? [18:14] It might be theme related [18:15] I don't think it directly comes from the GTK *theme* [18:15] It's just odd [18:15] would you mind trying another mouse cursor (in Xfce params -> UI -> mouse cursor or something similar) ? [18:15] and of course, annoying. [18:15] and also, are you using the XFCE composite transparency features ? [18:15] Lemme chech [18:15] Settings Manager->Mouse->Cursor, actually :) [18:15] What menu is that under. [18:15] * SiDi self slaps. [18:16] Guess I have to restart x [18:16] again [18:16] LordAnubis: i advise you to try other cursors, to check if you're using free/proprietary drivers, to disable compiz/xfce window transparency [18:16] Yeah, but that is just log out / log in [18:16] it's either related to the mouse cursor files or to the GPU drivers imho [18:17] Ok, thanks. I'll try that. [18:17] brb [18:20] It worked Sidi [18:20] I just changed the mouse curser back to the default. [18:20] Thank you so much. [18:20] So much for popularity of the "Random Garbage" theme... [18:21] Yes, you're right. [18:21] I was just using one of the themes that came with Xubuntu [18:24] Is there a Ubuntu/Xubuntu channel for DJ's ? [18:37] Anubis, suppose not. there is #xubuntu-offtopic for any kind of discussion, though :) [18:37] Thanks knome [18:38] it's a bit quiet sometimes but... :) [18:38] just invite them over to it [18:39] them? [18:39] The DJ's [18:39] oh, "them" [18:39] dholbach then ;) [18:40] yeah, "them" [19:05] help [19:06] can anyone help me connect the internet to my computer with xubuntu installed? [19:06] im currently on a windows computer [19:06] hello? [19:07] !fusesmb [19:07] fusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network. Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb [19:07] thanks === neozen_ is now known as neozen [20:16] Hello! I've troubles with my NetworkManager. I wonder how a package can be added to the default xubuntu distro without documentation? [20:21] which pkg you trying to install? [20:22] I've installed the 'nm-tool' and the NetworkManager. The manpages to BOTH packages don't describe how to set it up. [20:22] k [20:22] maxxle: there's a network manager system tray applet available when you install network-manager-gnome [20:23] once you've installed that package... and run command: nm-applet it should appear in the tray [20:23] which version of xubuntu are you running? [20:23] intrepid? [20:24] It _IS_ running. But there is nowhere documentation on how to set it up. I need a manpage/help that discribes e.g. /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf [20:24] hmmm [20:24] just poke the nm-applet [20:25] use mouse [20:25] it'll create appropriate config file entries [20:26] It tells me that my 'ath0' 'not managed'. I want to tweak that... but without documentation.... boring. [20:26] !networkmanager [20:26] networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager [20:28] mhm.... [20:30] Thx for your help. [20:30] You can always do a search from there... [20:31] I think it's a package missing completely any manpage. Imho this package should be removed from the repository [20:31] hey maxxle [20:31] got something for you [20:32] yes?! [20:32] take a look @ /etc/network/interfaces [20:32] maxxle: see anything more then loopback? [20:33] I've already removed all other entries and restartet all network stuff + network-manager [20:33] ahh... [20:33] drat [20:35] ok.... i will try to reboot my machine..... Maybe i have more luck after doing this :(...... cya - maybe [21:10] has anyone an iea what the app is called to logout on ubuntu? i'd like to add it. or at elast what app is called [21:16] You mean it is missing from the panel? [21:17] yeah [21:17] i dont know how, but i removed it ;( [21:17] right click the panel, add new items, action buttons [21:18] i ran into issues with the xfce-panel when first using it too, I found it to be a little touchy. [21:22] hehe, that's a good way to put it [21:27] knome: did it! timer counts down for auto login, no timer for non auto login [21:27] \o/ [21:27] charlie-tca, it was basically the same code [21:27] well... :D [21:28] glad it worked out [21:28] mr_pouit gonna have to send that in again? === awway is now known as lukinfore [21:40] Does anybody knwo if the velocy raptor hard disk from western digital is compatible with linux? Thank you. [21:43] 400gb works great [21:44] come to think of it, so does 200gb [22:08] i need help again [22:08] with my internet connection [22:08] im trying to connect to the network in my house which is based off of a windows computer [22:08] but the computer with xubuntu installed wont recognize the network [22:10] no one? [22:27] patience is a virtue. [22:32] welll, he did wait two minutes. or did it take two minutes to type everything? [22:40] I'm not sure........but it is time to jet :) take it easy charlie-tca [22:56] can anyone help me? [22:56] hi folks anyone try out the newest ubuntu 9.? [22:57] i was tryin out new xubuntu [22:57] but it wont recognize my network [22:57] help plz? [22:57] whileimhere: yes [22:58] the network is based off a windows comp [22:58] how is it"? [22:58] ? [22:58] works fine, if you don't mind a bug or two [22:59] sound is bad again this week, for me