[00:28] <NavadeHo> T_T
[00:36] <Domovoi> I'm resizing my windows partition but the only thing I want to keep is My Documents. If I just delete everything else will that cause problems?
[00:38] <Domovoi> thanks in advance if anyone knows
[00:39] <charlie-tca> It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. As far as Xubuntu, it doesn't care if there is a windows partition.
[00:39] <charlie-tca> Unless you installed using Wubi
[00:40] <charlie-tca> As far as Windows, to the best of my memory from 10 years ago, it won't run if you delete it
[00:41] <charlie-tca> I copied my files from windows to a cd, then copied them into ~/home, and haven't cared since
[00:41] <Domovoi> What I'm trying to do is resize my very large windows partition and the only thing I want to keep on there is My Documents. it doesn't need to boot.
[00:42] <charlie-tca> and Xubuntu is a separate installation, right? Should work fine
[00:43] <Domovoi> Thanks. After this I can finally get windows off of here :)
[00:43] <charlie-tca> you are not sharing files, so you should be able to read them from Xubuntu with out any problems
[00:44] <Domovoi> That's what I was thinking but it's always best to double check.
[00:51] <Mood> bpmarkham: still lurking about? any luck?
[02:17] <n2diy> can I make a DOS boot disk with Ubuntu?
[02:18] <genii> Yes
[02:19] <genii> Get an image from bootdisk.com that is not a zip/install file. Then use dd to make the floppy from the image
[04:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there a menu-editor in the default live-CD that I can use to access the Application menu contents and review them?
[04:48] <IntuitiveNipple> 2ndly... I'm seeing some window-decoration corruption for Terminal. I suspect it is to do with a previous (lower) screen resolution, but can't find where xfce4-terminal is storing its settings
[08:29] <frette> I use the minimize windows to desktop option on, it works nice, but I need the icons to appear on all workspaces, not just one. How do I do that?
[08:33] <frette> did that not make sense to someone or does noone know? :D
[08:35] <Myrtti> use windowlist applet?
[08:36] <frette> that would be possible i guess, but it takes away precious space
[08:37] <frette> plus i really like the minimize to desktop feature and I guess there's just one simple option missing
[08:43] <frette> k, another approach: where is the file where settings of xfce settings manager -> Desktop get saved?
[10:28] <_Pete_> hello
[10:28] <_Pete_> how do I use XFCE-desktop with freenx?
[10:36] <TheSheep> !freenx | _Pete_
[10:38] <_Pete_> TheSheep: yes thanks but I have it already setup but dont know how to use xfce with that, on configure dialog there's dropdown menu which desktop to use: kde/gnome/cde/xdm/custom
[10:38] <_Pete_> but not xfce
[10:41] <TheSheep> then use custom
[10:41] <TheSheep> and put startxfce4 there
[10:44] <_Pete_> thanks, that was it
[13:31] <brandonban6> good morning folks
[13:41] <jayant412> Hi.. I installed Xubuntu 8.10.. But its really really slow.. can anyone help me out?
[13:43] <_Pete_> what are your computers specs?
[13:44] <jayant412> 1.5 Ghz Celeron M,  256 MB RAM, 40GB HDD..
[13:45] <jayant412> I couldn't install xubuntu from the live cd... it kept hangin up....so I used the alternate CD.. but its really really slow..
[13:45] <TheSheep> jayant412: windows display slowly?
[13:45] <jayant412> yeah.. and installing packages takes a very long time....
[13:46] <TheSheep> jayant412: what graphics card do ou have?
[13:46] <jayant412> and How do I direct msgs to a purticular user?.. This is my first time on IRC really.
[13:46] <TheSheep> jayant412: type in terminal 'lspci | grep VGA' to tell
[13:46] <TheSheep> jayant412: don't use private messages, others want to learn too
[13:47] <TheSheep>  you do that with '/query user'
[13:47] <TheSheep> where user is the name f the person you want to query
[13:50] <jayant412> i mean.. Like how you get "jayant412: don't use private messages, others want to learn too".. my name at the start....
[13:50] <jayant412> and sorry about that PM..
[13:51] <TheSheep> no problem :)
[13:51] <TheSheep> just type the beginning of the name and press tab
[13:51] <jayant412> TheSheep: Ah.. Nice.. Thanks.. :)
[13:51] <TheSheep> you can complete with tab in many places, in the terminal too
[13:52] <jayant412> anywys.. I have an Intel graphics chipset thing.. 128 MB.. 910 GML express.. I think thats the name..
[13:52] <jayant412> ah.. Okay.. I'll remember that..
[13:53] <TheSheep> can you check the text file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what driver you are using?
[13:53] <jayant412> oh.. and right now I am on windows.. So.. Can you tell me how to get what you want to know on windows? XP?
[13:53] <TheSheep> it should be mentioned somewhere in that gibberish
[13:53] <TheSheep> hmm...
[13:53] <jayant412> lol... I couldn't use xubuntu anymore.. it was just too slow...
[13:54] <TheSheep> that's very strange
[13:55] <jayant412> The xubuntu installer said I had 247 MB of RAM to be specific.. and the Live CD just wouldn't work..
[13:58] <jayant412> can i have too many packages installed?? Can they slow down the system?? Coz I think i have like over 1000 packages installed..
[14:02] <_Pete_> jayant412: no, only running programs slows downs system
[14:06] <jayant412> _Pete_: Oh, alright..
[14:06] <jayant412> can I try something to make it run faster or something??
[14:07] <_Pete_> I think the best way to speed up things is to get more memory
[14:11] <jayant412> hmmm.. how do i do that with xubuntu?? coz this is the first time I installed something Unix like on my system and I have no idea what to do..
[14:18] <_Pete_> to get memory? go to the shop and buy them :)
[14:19] <jayant412> _Pete_:  :) I could do that.. :P
[14:25] <jayant412> anywys.. I gotta run for dinner.. Thanks a lot for all your help guys.. See ya..
[15:29] <slow-motion> hi
[16:28] <crazygir> I'm looking to install openoffice.org with synaptic.. the version says 1:2.4.1-11-ubuntustuff  is this oo.o v2.4.1?
[16:28] <crazygir> and if so, what's the 1:foo about? and is v3 available?
[16:31] <chewit> yeh, its 2.4.1
[16:35] <charlie-tca> The extra stuff is so ubuntu knows the changes it made
[16:36] <charlie-tca> v3 is in Jaunty
[16:37] <charlie-tca> But I don't think it is packaged for intrepid. You can install it from the openoffice website, though. It will even work without removing the existing version
[16:39] <btQuark_> hello
[16:40] <btQuark_> i wonder if i could selectivly set a windows transparence
[16:40] <btQuark_> just like one is able to do with compiz, just without compiz, just with the xfce compositor
[16:45] <brandonban6> btQuark_,  you'd need a transparent theme. Check out www.xfce-look.org
[16:52] <btQuark_> brandonban6: i'm not sure we mean the same: i want standard opaque windows, and an option in the windows menu to set its transparence
[16:52] <btQuark_> i already have transparent decorations which is fine, i just would the entire content of selected windows to be transparent
[16:53] <btQuark_> do i need a transparent theme for that too?
[16:57] <Anubis> Hello
[16:58] <Anubis> Anyone ever have a problem with the text under their desktop icons just being vertical lines?
[16:59] <charlie-tca> Anubis: have you changed the fonts?
[17:00] <Anubis> I made them a bit smaller.
[17:00] <Anubis> They were rather large.
[17:00] <charlie-tca> did you make them smaller with the DPI settings?
[17:01] <charlie-tca> You may have to change the font to something else, but you should try log out / log in again first
[17:01] <Anubis> I did log out/in
[17:01] <Anubis> I did not make them smaller with the dpi settings.
[17:02] <charlie-tca> And they were readable before making them smaller?
[17:02] <Anubis> I went back to the default settings.  Evidently it was a theme issue.
[17:03] <Anubis> Thanks for the help, tho.
[17:03] <charlie-tca> okay. Sometimes just picking a different font will work, too
[17:03] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[17:09] <brandonban6> btQuark_, sorry I misunderstood your request. I don't know if that is manageable, why not use compiz?
[17:10] <btQuark_> i like the xfwm
[17:10] <btQuark_> compiz sometimes is too anoying
[17:11] <btQuark_> although i now that i can configure the hell out of it
[17:11] <brandonban6> ahh, cool. Yeah, I'm not sure :(
[17:19] <Slor> Hey guys - question on "support" vs download availability.  I have a machine running 7.04, which I understand is past its support window.  To me that would me no new updates are being made available, but does it also mean that existing packages/updates have been removed as well?
[17:19] <Slor> I ask because I would like to install a package or two, but apt-get can no longer fetch from the archive.
[17:19] <vinnl> Slor, I believe the packages should still be available
[17:20] <Slor> for instance:
[17:20] <Slor> root@pengo:/home/james# apt-get install links
[17:20] <Slor> Reading package lists... Done
[17:20] <Slor> Building dependency tree
[17:20] <Slor> Reading state information... Done
[17:20] <Slor> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[17:20] <Slor>   links
[17:20] <Slor> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:20] <Slor> Need to get 368kB of archives.
[17:20] <vinnl> !paste
[17:20] <Slor> After unpacking 901kB of additional disk space will be used.
[17:20] <Slor> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[17:20] <Slor>   links
[17:20] <Slor> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[17:20] <Slor> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe links 0.99+1.00pre12-1.1
[17:20] <Slor>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[17:20] <Slor> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/links/links_0.99+1.00pre12-1.1_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[17:20] <vinnl> Slor, see the ubottu  message above ;-)
[17:20] <Slor> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[17:20] <Slor> oh- sorry - didn't mean to do a flood
[17:21] <Slor> If I do an apt-get update, about half of the messages are 404 errors downloading the package lists
[17:21] <Slor> yeah, my bad vin
[17:22] <charlie-tca> What I see is no 7.04 for Xubuntu
[17:22] <Slor> a single-line for instance (I hope):  Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[17:22] <vinnl> Ah they have indeed been removed
[17:22] <vinnl> Or at least, they're not at packages.ubuntu.com
[17:22] <charlie-tca> The old and new packages are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/
[17:23] <Slor> was my next question. :)  Where do I change the repository URLs?
[17:23] <charlie-tca> Give me a minute to go look again
[17:23] <Slor> thanks
[17:25] <chewit> Slor, why not do a fresh install to an LTS release
[17:25] <chewit> much longer support cycle
[17:25] <chewit> 2yrs i think
[17:26] <Slor> Well, this isn't exactly a current machine, and I'd prefer even in 2 years not to have to reinstall to have access to the latest packages.  No new updates, I perfectly understand.
[17:27] <Slor> actually, this 7.04 install is just about 2 years old
[17:27] <charlie-tca> Can't find them. Can only find ubuntu, kubuntu
[17:27] <vinnl> It's actually three years of updates :)
[17:27] <charlie-tca> Yes, standard life is 18 months, LTS is 3 years
[17:27] <chewit> is xfce power manager going to be used in 9.04 as default, or is it still gnome
[17:27] <Slor> Isn't the archive common to all ubuntu releases, or do I misunderstand that?
[17:28] <vinnl> Yes it is, I think charlie-tca  is look for CD images (?)
[17:28] <charlie-tca> It is not common, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[17:28] <charlie-tca> I can not find the old-release xubuntu images
[17:28] <vinnl> charlie-tca, he's looking for repo's
[17:29] <Slor> right
[17:30] <charlie-tca> There aren't any for 7.04 anymore. They are only maintained for the current releases
[17:30] <charlie-tca> 7.04 has been EOL for 6 months
[17:30] <charlie-tca> 6.06 and 7.10 will be EOL in April
[17:31] <Slor> Does the Feisty directory on the url not contain the repo?
[17:31] <vinnl> No just CD images
[17:31] <chewit> i personal think ubuntu support releases for to long
[17:31] <charlie-tca> What url?
[17:32] <Slor> the one you noted above charlie
[17:33] <Slor> I guess my hope is that there is a mirror of the last 7.04 packages kept somewhere
[17:35] <Slor> hmmm - this looks like it has the feisty versions of links in it: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/links/
[17:38] <Slor> where would I reconfig apt-get to use old-releases.ubuntu.com rather than us.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:38] <charlie-tca> /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:39] <Slor> i'll save a copy and see if this gets me what I want
[17:39] <charlie-tca> You really should upgrade to a current release soon. You have to do it one version at a time, and next month 7.10 is no longer supported too
[17:39] <knome> charlie-tca, you totally beat me! :)
[17:39]  * charlie-tca did it!
[17:39] <Slor> last I heard, trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 had its issues.
[17:40] <neozen> slor.... everything has issues
[17:40] <chewit> why not do a fresh install
[17:40] <charlie-tca> I think staying at 7.04 is going to have issues
[17:40] <neozen> but w/o updating... you'll have more
[17:40] <charlie-tca> There are no security updates, no support, ...
[17:40] <vinnl> And 8.04 will be supported until April 2011
[17:40] <neozen> since you'll be running on out of date packages
[17:40] <neozen> ...what charlie said :P
[17:41] <vinnl> Also, you can do a fresh install with the /home directory on a separate partition so that that won't be as much of an issue in the future
[17:41] <charlie-tca> Current versions of applications won't work, eventually, nothing works right and you can not upgrade, you have to install fresh
[17:41] <Slor> home's already on a separate partition.
[17:41] <vinnl> Well, then why not do a fresh install? ;-)
[17:41] <neozen> slor.... GOOD!
[17:41] <Slor> I'm on dated hardware and not looking to upgrade.
[17:42] <Slor> just looking for access to the existing packages
[17:42] <charlie-tca> I have upgraded a couple from 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04 without actually using 7.10
[17:42] <vinnl> If you actually want to *use* that hardware you better upgrade ;-) But it's your choice, of course
[17:42] <chewit> what specs is it?
[17:42] <charlie-tca> But I think 6.10 and 7.04 had more issues for me than 7.10 and 8.04
[17:42] <neozen> Slor: xu still has the same design goals it had before
[17:42] <chewit> there is no real hardware requirements increase from 7.04 to 8.10
[17:42] <neozen> (run on older hw better then full-on ubuntu)
[17:43] <vinnl> neozen, that's not the sole design goal ;-)
[17:43] <charlie-tca> Although the ATI Rage Pro video card is no longer working
[17:43] <vinnl> But let's not get into that :P
[17:43] <neozen> vinnl: of course not
[17:43] <Slor> yeah, I gotcha.  And your recommendations are duly noted. :)
[17:43] <vinnl> Good ;-)
[17:43] <neozen> vinnl: but when you've got older hw... you want it to be :P
[17:43] <vinnl> Hehe
[17:43] <Slor> That's an interesting coincidence - my video card actually may BE a rage pro
[17:43] <vinnl> xD
[17:43] <chewit> why isnt the rage pro not supported anymore?
[17:43] <neozen> lspci?
[17:44] <Slor> what's a command line to get my video card spec?
[17:44] <charlie-tca> I don't remember if it worked in 8.04, but it sure quit in 8.10 and 9.04
[17:44] <Slor> (I'm remote)
[17:44] <charlie-tca> sudo lshw
[17:44] <neozen> slor: ssh?
[17:44] <Slor> yeah
[17:44] <charlie-tca> ATI dropped it completely from the drivers now
[17:44] <neozen> charlie-tca: ...yuk
[17:44] <Slor>  Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS
[17:45] <charlie-tca> compatibility issues with xorg
[17:45] <chewit> hmm, i though xorg manage the old cards
[17:45] <chewit> i have a 7000, i have to use xorg drivers cause ati have never released drivers for this card under linux
[17:45] <charlie-tca> xorg has to have a driver. ATI is proprietary and won't give out the specs so they can be supported
[17:45] <chewit> same with all ati cards, which are 8500 ^ below
[17:47] <Slor> lshw - is that akin to dmidecode?
[17:47] <chewit> charlie, people with a rage pro could use vesa or a generic driver
[17:47] <chewit> they dont need the 3d support
[17:48] <charlie-tca> chewit: you might get 640 x 480 out of it, too
[17:48] <charlie-tca> No, I take it back, vesa don't work
[17:48] <chewit> yeh, maybe 800x600
[17:49] <chewit> oh
[17:49] <charlie-tca> There is no generic driver anymore. xorg 1.6 won't work with it.
[17:49] <charlie-tca> I have the card. I have tried several times
[17:50] <chewit> charlie, does 9.04 use the xfce power manager by default or gnome
[17:50] <charlie-tca> At least in Jaunty, you can not use the card
[17:50] <chewit> ah ok
[17:50] <charlie-tca> We are hoping to get xfce-power-manager in, but right now it is gnome
[17:50] <Slor> that did it for me guys - thanks for the discussion
[17:50] <chewit> ah, i have seen its in the repos though
[17:50] <charlie-tca> Good luck, Slor
[17:51] <Slor> oh, and I already have 8.10 on a newer machine somewhere. :)
[17:51] <charlie-tca> :-)
[17:51] <chewit> well, u need to try and get it in. gnome power manager is too heavy for xfce
[17:51] <charlie-tca> yeah, that **(})DPU ATI rage is just obsolete, I'm afraid
[17:51] <Slor> This is one of my hardware hand-me-down machines.
[17:52] <Slor> When I get a new card for my current machine, I'll have a GF3 to move down to it at least.
[17:52] <charlie-tca> Hey, I got a couple of them. I am running one with a STB Velocity 4MB card, and it works
[17:52] <Slor> :)
[17:53] <charlie-tca> Also, the matrox card is still working, but it is harder to get set up
[17:54] <Slor> been a while since I tried to find a distro that's installable on my Latitude LM.
[17:54] <Slor> (40MB memory, if I remember right)
[17:54] <btQuark_> some question: is there any chance that pulseaudio would get decently integrated into xubuntu?
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Yeah, that's a little light. I tried to install xubuntu Jaunty, with 128MB ram, and it refused
[17:54] <charlie-tca> btQuark_: not in jaunty
[17:55] <Slor> I did a low mem RH install a number of years ago on it.
[17:55] <Slor> I bet my Slack (circa '95) cd set would work, but it probably wouldn't suppor the video or network.
[17:55] <charlie-tca> Maybe yellowdog linux would work?
[17:55] <btQuark_> hm. if its going to come some day, integrated better than into ubuntu that would be something
[17:56] <Slor> dunno.  That machines dedicated to other low-performance-requiring tasks. :)
[17:56] <charlie-tca> btQuark_: that is what is holding it up. It would be preferred to have working sound
[17:57] <Slor> I assume the graphical software manager simply accesses apt's repositories
[17:57] <vinnl> Slor, yes
[17:57]  * charlie-tca got beat on that one
[17:58] <charlie-tca> okay, back to compiling
[18:01] <neozen> salu Laserbeak44
[18:01] <Laserbeak44> hello neozen
[18:04] <LordAnubis> Anyone ever have their cursor look like a box of jibberish?
[18:05] <LordAnubis> It's exceptionally annoying.
[18:05] <neozen> what file format are the cursors in?
[18:06] <LordAnubis> It's just my normal pointer, but it looks like a box for some reason.
[18:07] <LordAnubis> A rather large box.
[18:07] <LordAnubis> I don't know what file format the cursors are in.
[18:07] <neozen> that is strange
[18:07] <LordAnubis> Very
[18:07] <LordAnubis> And annoying.
[18:07] <neozen> I'm assuming you're just using one of the out of the box cursors?
[18:07] <LordAnubis> You can occasionally see the regular mouse pointer under it.
[18:07] <LordAnubis> I'm using the one that came with xubuntu.
[18:07] <LordAnubis> I didn't change any of them.
[18:07] <vinnl> LordAnubis, is this the first time you're experiencing this?
[18:07] <charlie-tca> In all applications and desktop?
[18:07] <LordAnubis> Could it be a theme issue?
[18:08] <LordAnubis> Yes, vinnl.  It's a fairly new install.
[18:08] <vinnl> LordAnubis, you have never rebooted, logged out or whatever?
[18:08] <vinnl> *since
[18:08] <LordAnubis> Yes
[18:08] <LordAnubis> Several times
[18:08] <vinnl> :S
[18:09] <LordAnubis> Tell me about it.
[18:09] <LordAnubis> I thought it might be a theme issue.
[18:12] <LordAnubis> Anyone have a clue on to why this happens?
[18:14] <charlie-tca> It might be theme related
[18:15] <SiDi> I don't think it directly comes from the GTK *theme*
[18:15] <LordAnubis> It's just odd
[18:15] <SiDi> would you mind trying another mouse cursor (in Xfce params -> UI -> mouse cursor or something similar) ?
[18:15] <LordAnubis> and of course, annoying.
[18:15] <SiDi> and also, are you using the XFCE composite transparency features ?
[18:15] <LordAnubis> Lemme chech
[18:15] <vinnl> Settings Manager->Mouse->Cursor, actually :)
[18:15] <LordAnubis> What menu is that under.
[18:15]  * SiDi self slaps.
[18:16] <LordAnubis> Guess I have to restart x
[18:16] <LordAnubis> again
[18:16] <SiDi> LordAnubis: i advise you to try other cursors, to check if you're using free/proprietary drivers, to disable compiz/xfce window transparency
[18:16] <charlie-tca> Yeah, but that is just log out / log in
[18:16] <SiDi> it's either related to the mouse cursor files or to the GPU drivers imho
[18:17] <LordAnubis> Ok, thanks.  I'll try that.
[18:17] <LordAnubis> brb
[18:20] <Anubis> It worked Sidi
[18:20] <Anubis> I just changed the mouse curser back to the default.
[18:20] <Anubis> Thank you so much.
[18:20] <Slor> So much for popularity of the "Random Garbage" theme...
[18:21] <Anubis> Yes, you're right.
[18:21] <Anubis> I was just using one of the themes that came with Xubuntu
[18:24] <Anubis> Is there a Ubuntu/Xubuntu channel for DJ's ?
[18:37] <knome> Anubis, suppose not. there is #xubuntu-offtopic for any kind of discussion, though :)
[18:37] <Anubis> Thanks knome
[18:38] <knome> it's a bit quiet sometimes but... :)
[18:38] <charlie-tca> just invite them over to it
[18:39] <knome> them?
[18:39] <charlie-tca> The DJ's
[18:39] <knome> oh, "them"
[18:39] <knome> dholbach then ;)
[18:40] <charlie-tca> yeah, "them"
[19:05] <yeanomaybe> help
[19:06] <yeanomaybe> can anyone help me connect the internet to my computer with xubuntu installed?
[19:06] <yeanomaybe> im currently on a windows computer
[19:06] <yeanomaybe> hello?
[19:07] <zoredache> !fusesmb
[19:07] <yeanomaybe> thanks
[20:16] <maxxle> Hello! I've troubles with my NetworkManager. I wonder how a package can be added to the default xubuntu distro without documentation?
[20:21] <neozen> which pkg you trying to install?
[20:22] <maxxle> I've installed the 'nm-tool' and the NetworkManager. The manpages to BOTH packages don't describe how to set it up.
[20:22] <neozen> k
[20:22] <neozen> maxxle: there's a network manager system tray applet available when you install network-manager-gnome
[20:23] <neozen> once you've installed that package... and run command: nm-applet it should appear in the tray
[20:23] <neozen> which version of xubuntu are you running?
[20:23] <neozen> intrepid?
[20:24] <maxxle> It _IS_ running. But there is nowhere documentation on how to set it up. I need a manpage/help that discribes e.g. /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[20:24] <neozen> hmmm
[20:24] <neozen> just poke the nm-applet
[20:25] <neozen> use mouse
[20:25] <neozen> it'll create appropriate config file entries
[20:26] <maxxle> It tells me that my 'ath0' 'not managed'. I want to tweak that... but without documentation.... boring.
[20:26] <charlie-tca> !networkmanager
[20:28] <maxxle> mhm....
[20:30] <maxxle> Thx for your help.
[20:30] <charlie-tca> You can always do a search from there...
[20:31] <maxxle> I think it's a package missing completely any manpage. Imho this package should be removed from the repository
[20:31] <neozen> hey maxxle
[20:31] <neozen> got something for you
[20:32] <maxxle> yes?!
[20:32] <neozen> take a look @ /etc/network/interfaces
[20:32] <neozen> maxxle: see anything more then loopback?
[20:33] <maxxle> I've already removed all other entries and restartet all network stuff + network-manager
[20:33] <neozen> ahh...
[20:33] <neozen> drat
[20:35] <maxxle> ok.... i will try to reboot my machine..... Maybe i have more luck after doing this :(...... cya - maybe
[21:10] <atari> has anyone an iea what the app is called to logout on ubuntu? i'd like to add it. or at elast what app is called
[21:16] <charlie-tca> You mean it is missing from the panel?
[21:17] <atari> yeah
[21:17] <atari> i dont know how, but i removed it ;(
[21:17] <charlie-tca> right click the panel, add new items, action buttons
[21:18] <brandonban6> i ran into issues with the xfce-panel when first using it too, I found it to be a little touchy.
[21:22] <charlie-tca> hehe, that's a good way to put it
[21:27] <charlie-tca> knome: did it! timer counts down for auto login, no timer for non auto login
[21:27] <knome> \o/
[21:27] <knome> charlie-tca, it was basically the same code
[21:27] <knome> well... :D
[21:28] <knome> glad it worked out
[21:28] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit gonna have to send that in again?
[21:40] <sadmanu> Does anybody knwo if the velocy raptor hard disk from western digital is compatible with linux? Thank you.
[21:43] <charlie-tca> 400gb works great
[21:44] <charlie-tca> come to think of it, so does 200gb
[22:08] <yeanomaybe> i need help again
[22:08] <yeanomaybe> with my internet connection
[22:08] <yeanomaybe> im trying to connect to the network in my house which is based off of a windows computer
[22:08] <yeanomaybe> but the computer with xubuntu installed wont recognize the network
[22:10] <yeanomaybe> no one?
[22:27] <brandonban6> patience is a virtue.
[22:32] <charlie-tca> welll, he did wait two minutes. or did it take two minutes to type everything?
[22:40] <brandonban6> I'm not sure........but it is time to jet :) take it easy charlie-tca
[22:56] <yeanomaybe> can anyone help me?
[22:56] <whileimhere> hi folks anyone try out the newest ubuntu 9.?
[22:57] <yeanomaybe> i was tryin out new xubuntu
[22:57] <yeanomaybe> but it wont recognize my network
[22:57] <yeanomaybe> help plz?
[22:57] <charlie-tca> whileimhere: yes
[22:58] <yeanomaybe> the network is based off a windows comp
[22:58] <whileimhere> how is it"?
[22:58] <yeanomaybe> ?
[22:58] <charlie-tca> works fine, if you don't mind a bug or two
[22:59] <charlie-tca> sound is bad again this week, for me