[00:52] It is. [00:54] i was thinking, we really should do something different for our upslash in karmic [00:55] * vorian has not art skillz, otherwise he would be providing a mockup or some such [00:57] Weren't they working on a new xubuntu usplash? [00:57] who cares about mice [00:57] :P [00:58] I think for Karmic at least we'll have kernel mode setting for Intel so we can have X during startup and do different stuff (at least with on the low probability that I understand it correctly). [00:59] Oh, for Karmic they were thinking of using Plymouth, which is what Fedora's using [00:59] or something [01:00] taking advantage of kernel mode setting [01:00] meh, i think the start up should be at least 4 minutes with a nice suse like picture [01:00] lol [01:01] Then we should use the long version of the KDE4 startup sound and play it twice! [01:01] so that it's even longer than the mac one! [01:01] AWESOME! === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [01:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1bgsvsWms [01:02] ^see above [01:04] you know [01:04] we should totally do that for april fools day [01:05] like that one time when you turned the plasma theme to the fluffy bunny theme and did that unicorn background [01:05] *you guys [01:05] *most likely apachelogger come to think of it [01:07] oh sheesh [01:07] wait [01:07] Brilliant! [01:15] hehe :) [01:15] * ryanakca thinks he'd die of shame if that was his laptop and it was the day before exams... [01:15] do not let vorian near any april fools day stuff [01:39] Actually if you ever saw the Myspace page Hobbsee made (back when such things were considered mandatory in some sets) you'd know for sure she's the designer you want. [01:39] I think it actually gave people vertigo. [01:41] hahaha, I still have convulsions because of her myspace page [01:42] i think you're still having convulsions because you copied her style! [01:44] heh, some russion lady has stolen hobbsee's identity [02:05] Would it be of value to get pykde into a bzr branch under lp:~kubuntu-members/ ? [02:12] ryanakca: pykde is in kdebindings [02:14] Riddell: Ah, yes, thanks :) [02:23] anyone here get dmraid working with ich10r? I know its not a very common setup, but I can't get dmraid to recognize the intel bios raid metadata [02:26] Riddell: I have a question... system-settings apparently loads libpython2.5.so but should be loading libpython2.5.so.1, I should be able to find it by searching in pykde, and the code for pykde is in kdebindings, correct? However, kdebindings/debian/rules has ``DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += ... -DPYTHON_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/libpython2.6.so''... Did you mean libpython2.6 instead of libpython2.5 or ? [02:37] It should be 2.6 on Jaunty. [03:01] Riddell, you around? [03:21] Ha, you can't install updates that install new packages in KPackageKit? [03:21] lulz [03:24] i can't even get vbox working correctly [03:24] took me forever to install alpha-6 [03:24] now after rebooting it comes up checking battery state on a desktop [03:24] what a silly thing [05:40] the default action for the middle mouse button on a tab in konqueror should be to close the tab, imho. [05:40] someone please make this default in kubuntu for the sake of n00bs like myself :) === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [07:49] * jussi01 waves to sabdfl1 [07:50] hey jussi01 [08:03] Can someone confirm bug 333408 for me? [08:03] Launchpad bug 333408 in kdeplasma-addons "Malformed URL in lancelot if Kmail is not running." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333408 [08:22] hi kids [08:23] * Tm_T really needs new pc and some money for coffee === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl [10:26] Do we have a plan for kde 4.2.2 yet? [10:32] morning ScottK [10:33] ScottK: no I've not looked at the timetable for that [10:33] Riddell: have you done the panel yet? [10:34] ScottK: it's post beta though [10:34] davmor2: it's reached number two on my todo list :) [10:34] \o/ === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl [11:37] i'm looking at bug 317271 atm, but I can't reproduce it yet (need to finish upgrading my machine first) [11:37] Launchpad bug 317271 in redland "nepomukservicestub causes crash in Soprano::Redland backend" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317271 [11:38] there seems to be quite a few different backtraces for it, depending on soprano version [11:38] can someone point me to the backtrace for the currently packaged version? [11:39] JontheEchidna: ^ [11:44] agateau: I get a crash just by starting nepomukserver [11:45] http://humboldt.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/_usr_bin_nepomukservicestub.1000.crash [11:45] Riddell: ok, can you pastebin the backtrace? [11:45] thanks [11:45] Riddell: mmm 403 error [11:46] agateau: fixed [11:46] ok [11:52] Riddell: noob question, is there a tool to parse the base64 core dump? [11:53] agateau: it should be apport-retrace [11:53] but I can't get it to do must useful just now [11:53] so how do you work with the dump? [11:58] agateau: still trying to work that out [11:58] agateau: if you kill your existing nepomukserver and start a new one you don't get a crash? [11:58] agateau: and are you running up to date jaunty? [11:58] Riddell: I am running kde trunk with sesame backend atm [11:59] but my machine is a Kubuntu 8.04 (/me hides) [11:59] I am upgrading it this afternoon [12:01] that's why I am asking for backtrace, [12:01] to do "theoretical" debugging :) [12:05] agateau: there is only one stacktrace on bug 317271 [12:05] Launchpad bug 317271 in redland "nepomukservicestub causes crash in Soprano::Redland backend" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317271 [12:07] * smarter waves [12:07] * JontheEchidna yawns [12:07] * smarter notices that actions-on-notifications still don't work on Jaunty here [12:11] Riddell: there is another one on bugs.kde.org [12:11] JontheEchidna: do you know how to get apport-retrace to work? [12:12] Riddell: not really. I think you have to have every concievable package up to date to even have a small chance [12:13] Tonio_: Thoughts about bug 344118? [12:13] Launchpad bug 344118 in kdebase-workspace "GTK theme in KDE4 is always reset to QtCurve" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344118 [12:13] Riddell: OK (re 4.2.2). I'm kind of wondering if it's post-beta or an SRU, but haven't seen the schedule. No rush. [12:13] it's the week after beta [12:14] JontheEchidna: well that's the way it works, indeed... that's the way it worked with gtk-qt-engine... [12:14] JontheEchidna: but the reset is just within the kde session [12:14] JontheEchidna: I don't know if that's to be considered a bug... [12:15] JontheEchidna: and I can't see any better way to do... [12:15] I don't think it actually worked in Intrepid [12:15] because I turned of gtk-qt-engine for a while [12:15] and it never reset to on [12:15] JontheEchidna: with gtk-qt-engine, the mecanism to force was the same, except you could disable within the gui... [12:16] ah [12:16] except you can't disable it within the GUI for QtCurve [12:16] JontheEchidna: I'll try to find anything better, but at this point I can't see what else to do... [12:17] :) [12:19] JontheEchidna: people complained about gtk-qt-engine for years, now we replace and you'll find people asking to get it back... [12:20] JontheEchidna: as said I'll try for something better but I really think the current thing is a lot better for 95% of our users, don't you agree ? [12:20] what would happen if it wasn't forced? (I don't know) [12:20] JontheEchidna: most people don't want to be able to change the gtk config within kde, they want something that does the job, and that's what qtcurve does [12:20] qtcurve seems nice enough [12:20] looks nice, binds the icons, the fonts.... [12:21] Yeah, I agree it's what most people would want [12:21] JontheEchidna: if it wasn't forced ? well how do you set the settings then, if gtk-qt-engine isn't installed ? [12:21] JontheEchidna: or maybe we have to use both.... [12:21] yeah, we may have to force it for now... [12:21] and use gtk-qt-engine to set qtcurve ? that's a nonsense :) gtk-qtengine is unmaintained, and bloated [12:22] In Karmic I might look in to separating the GTK styles KCM out from gtk-qt-engine [12:22] and gtk-qt-engine doesn't work here for some reasons(with a fresh 8.10 install) and revert to the ugly default gtk theme :/ [12:22] smarter: it don't depend on its shlib deps so as to not bring GTK on the CD [12:22] JontheEchidna: maybe we can fork gtk-qt-engine to just set the theme, not the fonts and the icons [12:22] JontheEchidna: and then we can use it to just set qtcurve [12:22] that would be nice [12:22] yeah, but not doable for jaunty I'm afraid :( [12:23] JontheEchidna: but then people would complain that the fonts and icons are not binded when using another gtk theme than qtcurve [12:23] JontheEchidna: and they'll post bugs again... [12:23] I hate gtk [12:23] JontheEchidna: it'll never stop until gnome eventually switches to qt haha :) [12:23] lol [12:23] JontheEchidna: no but I'm serious there, it's a never ending battle [12:24] If only the GTK people were as nice as the Qt people and could develop something like QGtkStyle === vital_ is now known as vital [12:24] people want something that make gtk look like qt by default, but with the ability to change it, along with the fonts binding and so on... [12:24] qtcurve isn't perfect, but it's by far the best thing to do.... and if you don't like the defaults, let's install debian... [12:24] my point... [12:25] Agreed. [12:25] people that complain abou seemonkey in firefox ? geeks, so they are able to fix startkde not to force it.... I don't mind feeting with geeks expectances.... my mother is more important to me [12:25] and she'll appreciate qtcurve for sure :) [12:26] * Tonio_ even uses kde-styleqtcurve now to have something fully integrated [12:27] brb, I svn up'd konversation [12:46] I wonder if people don't really care if gtk appl look like qt/kde or if they just don't want the gtk to look like crap in KDE :) [12:47] qtcurve is nice in any case [12:52] * Lure is happy to see agateau in #kubuntu-devel backlog ;-) [12:52] :) [12:53] * agateau blushes [12:59] Riddell: thanks for pyexiv2 ack; would appreciate if you can sync exiv2 (bug 309684) when you have time [12:59] Launchpad bug 309684 in exiv2 "FFe and sync request for exiv2 0.18 from Debian Experimental" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/309684 [12:59] which I know is very limited ;-) [13:00] Lure: oh sorry, I half did that, finished the sync now [13:01] Riddell: thanks [13:35] Wow, 260 updates [13:46] Riddell: shouldn't the notify-reboot-required wait for apt to be finished to warn ? [13:46] Riddell: it warns in the middle of the process for me... I can imagin people reboting then, sounds bad ;) [13:47] did anyone get any news about the uds sponsorship ? [13:48] if QFile.exists("/var/run/reboot-required") and QFile.exists("/var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp") [13:48] Tonio_: that /var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp should only exist after apt has finished [13:49] Tonio_: maybe it needs to check the timestamp is newer [13:50] Riddell: or check if the dpkg database is still locked ? [13:50] or that [13:50] Riddell: using a loop or something ? [13:50] Tonio_: I did not. [13:53] Riddell: I'll ping asac about the firefox patch toonight [13:53] * Riddell switches back to update-notifier-kde for new packages [14:39] The kpackagekit `` updates available: \bullet A \bullet B \bullet C'' popup only lasts half of a second... I don't see any bugs for in on LP A) Is this intended / desired behavior, if not, where would I fix it? k-d-s (Guessing from the k-d-s changelog) ? [14:39] rahhh... just installed Jaunty on my laptop, now if only I could get wifi to connect, I could even work [14:39] ryanakca: I know [14:40] the popup is being displayed way too short [14:40] Riddell: Do we still need to worry about it, or has it been replaced by update-notifier-kde? [14:41] ryanakca: I just changed back to update-notifier-kde [14:42] Riddell: Ok. And about kdebindings, looks like it already uses python2.6 ... or was it something else you had wanted me to look at? [14:42] btw, could someone tell me how KPackageKit can update my system *without* asking for my password? [14:43] ryanakca: if it uses 2.6 that's all good [14:43] does it use a daemon hich runs in root mode? [14:44] * ryanakca is guessing it does, since debian/rules has ``DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += ... -DPYTHON_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/libpython2.6.so'' instead of /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so [14:44] ryanakca: although it still has the problem of needed libpython2.6.so rather than libpython2.6.so.1.0 [14:44] cumulus007: yes [14:44] how dangerous [14:44] so every application could commit changes? [14:45] policykit should ask for a password [14:45] Riddell: Does it make much difference? /usr/lib/libpython2.6.so -> libpython2.6.so.1 and /usr/lib/libpython2.6.so.1 -> libpython2.6.so.1.0 [14:45] it doesn't [14:46] ryanakca: /usr/lib/libpython2.6.so is from python-dev which would be nice not to have needed on the CD [14:46] since it takes up extra space [14:46] cumulus007: It does here... maybe you just used another application with kdesudo (or whichever) not too long before? [14:46] ryanakca: maybe [14:46] will check that out [14:47] Riddell: OK, so, change ``DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += ....libpython2.6.so'' to DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS +=....libpython2.6.so.1.0 ? [14:48] ryanakca: no idea if that'll do it but worth a shot [14:49] compile that and see if system-config-printer-kde loads without /usr/lib/libpython2.6.so installed [14:49] agateau^home: wifi working? [15:35] <_lumm> would it be possible to get a amarok 2.0.2 backport for intrepid :S [15:35] <_lumm> how come it isnt in intrepid anyway [15:35] Probably because no one backported it. [15:35] <_lumm> i mean the normal repros not backports. [15:36] Because it was released after Intrepid. [15:36] <_lumm> it got added to the beta but not in the currently stable one ?! i dont get that. its a bugfix rls. [15:36] Intrepid has Amarok 1.4. [15:36] <_lumm> so only security updates pass intrepid? [15:37] <_lumm> erm ok [15:37] Security and major bug fixes. [15:37] One of the PPAs (I've lost track which) had 2.0.1 for Intrepid, but I don't think anyone updated it. [15:38] Riddell: I am still on bug 317271, I was able to reproduce it from the livecd, but can't reproduce it on my installation, is it the same for you? [15:38] Launchpad bug 317271 in redland "nepomukservicestub causes crash in Soprano::Redland backend" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/317271 [15:38] <_lumm> yep bot 2.0.1 here but its pretty a mess. [15:39] Someone who's interested really ought to backport the newer one ... [15:39] ScottK: it's a bit late to do so, isn't it? [15:40] agateau_: Not at all. We can backport amarok 2.0.2 into an appropriate PPA (probably kubuntu-experimental) with no trouble. It just takes someone to prepare it. [15:41] I wouldn't put it in the official backports as it drags in mysql 5.1 and my head hurts when I think about that. [15:41] ScottK: I thought you were talking about Virtuoso, the new Soprano backend, which is supposed to replace Redland :) === agateau_ is now known as agateau [15:41] agateau: No. Sorry. I was on amarok. [15:41] agateau: Agreed. It's definitely too late for that. [15:42] ok [15:52] agateau: it crashes on my installed system (although I suppose it could a different crash, I've not looked) [15:52] Riddell: then I need to figure out what's different between your system and mine [15:53] to reproduce I should just run "killall nepomukserver ; nepomukserver", that's right? [15:53] * ScottK was hoping agateau might look into the kpackagekit notification problem.... [15:55] agateau: the redland backend is useless since it's far too slow anyway [15:55] Not sure it makes a lot of sense spending time on fixing it [15:55] sebas: true, but there is no alternative before jaunty is out [15:55] sesame2 should work better, ultimately you want the virtuoso backend for that [15:56] it's too late to package virtuoso [15:56] sebas: sesame2 is non-free [15:56] disable nepomuk would IMO make more sense, or package sesame2 [15:56] what part is non-free? [15:56] the binary blob parts [15:56] sesame2 is packaged, it just can't be put on the livecd [15:56] ah [15:56] I'd disable nepomuk then unless sesame2 is there [15:57] redland is really useless [15:57] Riddell: i agree with sebas on redland [15:57] i cursed against it quite a few times when playing with Nepomuk in Gwenview [15:57] Besides, destopsearch / indexing on a livecd is a strange concept [15:57] it's already disabled on the live CD [15:58] for a newly installed system it would obviosuly be nice to have it working but maybe it can't be done [15:58] Riddell: would it be possible to ship without redland and enable nepomuk when one install the sesame2 backend? [15:59] Maybe make it easy to install sesame2 by a wizard or something? [15:59] or when one backport virtuoso later [15:59] Much like the codecs [15:59] sebas: probably too late for that too, i guess [15:59] it's not like Nepomuk is really useful atm [15:59] When is the freeze? [15:59] smarter_: it is, if it's properly set up [15:59] sebas: on thursday [16:00] Ow :D [16:00] Tonio_: have you sent patches yesterday against ferefox to use xdg_open? [16:00] we could add sesame to the restricted install app, although I have a general dislike of recommending people install non-free software [16:00] The source for some java classes are missing? [16:00] sebas: without a proper way for the user to query the database, I don't see what you can do with it, except adding stars in Dolphin :] [16:00] Riddell: in this case, it's either non-free or useless-unmaintained :/ [16:00] Or is their license to restrictive? [16:01] smarter_: alt+f2? nepomukquery:/ ? [16:01] sebas: the build system requires downloading more binary blobs [16:01] digikam also uses the rating [16:01] Riddell: and their source isn't there? [16:01] sebas: doesn't seem to be installed here, isn't that stuff in playground? [16:01] smarter_: or use Gwenview and filter your images by tag, rating... [16:02] sebas: you can't download during building on the buildds so it would need the entire build system re-written and all the dependencies (over 100) likewise [16:02] Riddell: so the issue is technical or license? [16:02] sebas: right [16:02] technical [16:02] agateau: oh, that's actually the first useful thing I've heard being done with Nepomuk, cool :) [16:02] :) [16:03] With redland it won't be much fun though ... [16:03] so it isn't even fast? [16:03] users will enable desktop search and it'll take forever to index [16:04] Then, searching will also take forever, plus a lot of i/o making everything else slow as well [16:04] so I'm thinking we disable it by default and have the restricted installer prompt for sesame [16:04] as there no way to make a desktop search for a user, it doesn't eally make a difference :p [16:04] smarter_: it's ok-fast with sesame2 as backend [16:04] Riddell: sounds wise [16:04] I wonder how we disable it [16:04] smarter_: again ...ALT+F2, and read above for other usages [16:04] eventually Virtuoso will come to save us! [16:05] is virtuoso that good? :) [16:05] Riddell: that sounds like the best solution for now [16:05] sebas: as I said, I don't seem to have the nepomukquery:/ kio installed [16:05] smarter: it is supposed to, at least according to Nepomuk author [16:05] smarter_: nepomuksearch:/ iirc [16:06] oh, it works :p [16:06] smarter_: it's nepomuksearch, and at least here, it seems to be in kdebase [16:06] but I don't see how anybody could have a clue they have to do that (putting it on Konqueror front page would maybe help?) [16:06] agateau: any idea how to disable it? is there a configuration option do you know? [16:06] Riddell: there are a few options available from System Settings [16:06] Riddell: there's a knob in systemsettings [16:06] agateau: :) [16:06] so I guess we can find out where those are stored [16:07] basically you can enable/disable nepomuk and enable/disable strigi [16:07] /home/sebas/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc [16:07] /home/sebas/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc [16:08] agateau: fancy making those changes or are you fed up of nepomuk for today? [16:08] isn't it "fed up with"? :) [16:08] how can one get fed up of/with Nepomuk? :) [16:09] True :) [16:09] Riddell: will have a look [16:10] Riddell: btw, what did you end up doing with the python laptop bag in the end? [16:11] sebas: I got it into the country no questions asked, it's under my desk [16:11] not sure what to do with it now [16:11] uh, that's brave [16:11] agateau: when you get the config option add it to kubuntu-default-settings bzr branch [16:11] I know that at Schiphol you can get into a lot of trouble for that [16:11] 0 [16:12] agateau: you also want to edit update-notifier-kde branch and add the sesame backend to the list of packages to install [16:12] Though I've never had my bags or anything checked there [16:12] Riddell: I will probably need your help on this (how to get those branches...) [16:12] sebas: in Nigeria they even let me get on the plane with a watermelon [16:12] agateau: poke me when you need help [16:12] hahaha weird ideea [16:12] Riddell: ok [16:13] agateau: to get the k-d-s branch from LP, bzr checkout lp:~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu if I remember correctly. [16:13] ryanakca: ok thanks === doc___ is now known as doc___afk [16:15] * agateau also needs to teach himself bzr [16:17] * ryanakca thinks he should've used his PPA to build kdebindings... slooowwness ;) [16:18] Is Bug 290304 solved? only a file move is necesary [16:18] Launchpad bug 290304 in skim "Skim has no KMenu icon" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290304 [16:18] agateau: don't miss the bzr-builddeb plugin which is really useful for simplifying package maintainences :) [16:19] smarter: ok [16:19] agateau: there's probably some docs on the wiki about it [16:20] agateau: There's http://jameswestby.net/bzr/builddeb/user_manual/ too... [16:21] thanks guys! [16:27] python is an illegal trade animal? [16:29] agateau: If you use svn, then you can use bzr co and bzr ci just like the svn equivalents until you teach yourself the fancy dvcs branch/merge stuff. [16:29] ok [16:30] should be much of a problem I think, as I am quite used to both svn and git [16:30] IME bzr is much easier to wrap your head around than git, but that may just be me. [16:30] let's not start a dvcs war here :) [16:31] Didn't say anything about better or worse. [16:32] My biggest problem with bzr is that I run into it no where outside Ubuntu and I don't have a lot of spare space in my head for an Ubuntu specific VCS. [16:35] seele: pretty much any non-farm animal needs an import licence [16:36] ScottK: i see what you mean [16:36] "bzr is much easier to wrap your head around than git" that really isn't just you ScottK [16:36] Riddell: even if it's dead and processed? [16:36] seele: I belive so [16:36] huh [16:43] ScottK, I've found bazaar outside of Ubuntu. [16:43] Riddell, good morning (or afternoon) [16:44] hello NCommander [16:44] Riddell, how are you today? [16:45] oh ca va [16:45] Riddell, can you do me a favor and poke something in the NEW queue for me? [16:46] I can [16:46] Riddell, ecosconfig-imx please :-)? [16:46] (it has a FFe) [16:50] NCommander: accepted [16:50] Thanks Riddell :-) [16:52] Riddell: if i understand correctly, I need to add nepomuk config files inside kde-rc-files/ and add a line the Makefile? [16:52] agateau: yes you need to add it, the Makefile installs everything *rc so no change needed there [16:53] Riddell, thanks. I think that was the first package I ever submitted on the first try that didn't get a reject :-) [16:53] Riddell: oh ok [16:53] where should kpackagekit problems/bugs be reported? [16:54] NCommander: oops, clearly I should have looked closer for a problem :) [16:54] knusperfrosch: if it's the update notification you don't like I've just turned that off, otherwise bugs to launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpackagekit (or try your luck moaning here) [16:55] Riddell, heh [16:55] Lure: new exiv accepted, you'll make sure everything is built against it before beta freeze on thursday? [16:55] * ryanakca sighs at having wasted an hour and a half building amd64 packages for an i386 laptop [16:55] ryanakca: oops. that's quite hard to do though [16:56] nope, kpackagkit told me to report something: "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!" [16:56] Could someone with an amd64 jaunty test some kdebindings .debs please? [16:56] well not really verbose... [16:57] ryanakca: I could [16:58] Riddell: Where shall I stick them? [16:58] ryanakca: wherever I can get them [16:58] meeting in 2 minutes? [16:59] is it here or ubuntu-meetings? [16:59] depends which is free [17:00] looks like something about to begin in #ubuntu-meeting [17:00] ok.. here it is [17:02] Tonio_, Nightrose, nixternal, yuriy: council ping [17:02] yo yo [17:02] Quintasan: kb9vqf: ping [17:02] * Quintasan waves [17:02] * Nightrose waves [17:02] Riddell: will do for universe, will need help for main [17:02] * kb9vqf waves [17:02] JontheEchidna: ping [17:02] Riddell: is something wrong with publisher? [17:03] Riddell: I see only source in archive, but no binaries for 0.18 [17:03] Lure: ssh, we're in a meeting (no, not that I know of) [17:03] Lure: it'll appear shortly I expect [17:03] thanks for saving me from learning innovationeconomics - worst slides ever :/ [17:03] Riddell: it is 3 hours since build [17:03] seele: pong [17:03] Lure: it was stuck in New [17:03] * Lure shuts up [17:03] right, meeting! [17:03] JontheEchidna: meeting time [17:03] good afternoon friends [17:03] memberships first [17:03] Quintasan: want to go first? [17:04] Hmm I guess I can, shall I introduce myself first? [17:04] Quintasan: yes, a few sentenses on who you are and what you do in kubuntu [17:06] Quintasan: ? [17:06] My name is Michał and I'm from Poland. I've done some bug fixing in kde4 packages. I'm also translating applications. [17:06] Quintasan: how long have you been active in the Kubuntu community? [17:07] About one and a half month I suppose [17:07] Quintasan: how active is the Polish Kubuntu community? [17:08] hi [17:08] Nightrose: sorry, I'm unable to accurate informations but we have lots of guys helping people out in #ubuntu-pl [17:08] to provide* [17:09] Quintasan: is raptor at a useful stage for users? [17:09] ok [17:09] Quintasan: are you translating applications only on Launchpad or in upstream projects too? do you have any contact with an upstream project l10n team? [17:09] Riddell: I don't think so, there are some issues that aren't big but they are annoying. [17:10] smarter: only Launchpad applications, I don't have any contacts with upstream team's [17:10] Quintasan: why do you like Kubuntu over other distros? [17:11] Hehe, that's always the hardest question imo :P [17:12] Quintasan: do you have any examples of bugs you have fixed? what are you plans on direct Kubuntu translations? [17:12] Riddell: Community, lots of people who can help you out, for me the most important thing is to have usable desktop right after the installation, I also love new KDE so that's why I picked Kubuntu [17:12] Quintasan: what are your plans for the next months with kubuntu? [17:13] nixternal: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kdeplasma-addons/4:4.2.0-0ubuntu3 [17:14] Nightrose: I'm planning to do more packaging and fixing issues, also translating applications that are not translated or have few lines translated [17:14] I sponsored both his kdeplasma-addons fix and a kdebase-workspace fix for him into bzr [17:14] he does good work :) [17:14] nixternal: i am not ignoring your email about kubuntu docs hoping to work on them tonight, in anoter airport [17:15] jjesse: ahh there you are :) ya, I knew you were on the road so I wasn't in a hurry really [17:15] Quintasan: how long have you used kubuntu before you started contributing a month ago? [17:15] nixternal: i just finished my review/update of the kubuntu book so those are next :) [17:15] seele: for 1 year [17:16] Quintasan: Do you plan on becoming a MOTU in the long run? [17:17] is there a mtg happening now that intereputred? [17:17] jjesse: yes :) [17:17] jjesse: yeah, no sweat though [17:17] JontheEchidna: I think yes [17:17] ah :) [17:17] Quintasan: are you a student or working? [17:17]