[00:01] Hmm, I ran sudo m-a a-i fglrx and it fails immediately with an empty build log. [00:01] it depends a lot on drivers though [00:01] !fglrx [00:01] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [00:01] guys every time i run alt+f2 and then synaptic it tells me that it doesn't run in administrative mode [00:01] what should i do? [00:02] gksu synaptic [00:02] iwantfool: use kdesudo synaptic [00:02] ActionParsnip: he is using gnome [00:02] hang on [00:02] so alt+f2 is not for admin [00:02] !ubuntu [00:02] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Ubuntu comes with the GNOME interface. To install that from Kubuntu install the ubuntu-desktop package. [00:02] Ace2017_-: i guessed kde as this is #kubuntu [00:02] alt+f2 is for running programs, whatever programs they may be [00:03] but not in admin mode [00:03] run it from the menus.. and i think it asks for the password first [00:03] ActionParsnip: yea, just thought you might like to know [00:03] Ace2017_-: cool, ty [00:03] or use alt-f2 gksudo whatever [00:03] and why did you say gnome lacks functionality? [00:03] menus are so slow, you have to click like 3 times to get to stuff [00:03] iwantfool: add gksudo to the start of any app you want to run with admin access [00:03] btw apt-get upgade is still running [00:03] !sudo | iwantfool [00:03] iwantfool: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE) [00:04] ok [00:04] iwantfool: you dont want to run more then 1 package manager tool.command at a time [00:04] you mean sudo not gksudo [00:04] iwantfool: if you have never updated/upgraded that new install.. then it may take some time. [00:04] you might want to treat this install as a breakable one, backup everything [00:04] iwantfool: no i mean gksudo [00:04] I mean !sudo as in a bot command. :) [00:04] Ace2017_ gnome is more resource efficient [00:04] iwantfool: sudo is for cli apps ONLY, gksudo is for graphical apps [00:05] sudo can some times work for gui apps. :) but its best to not use it for them [00:05] ah ok [00:05] !info sux [00:05] sux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB [00:05] iwantfool: sudo for gui apps doesnt set up the environment correctly for grahical apps [00:05] i've never read that for kde applications [00:06] iwantfool: its standard in all *buntus and distros using sudo [00:06] dr_willis: whats the difference between sux and kdesu? sux newer, also better? [00:06] sux newer? the exact opposite.. [00:06] sux has been around since befor kde i belive.. :) [00:06] anyway i am waiting the upgrade to finish and then install the graphic card drivers from system->administration->hardware drivers [00:07] sux is not a gui interface. its a alternative to doing sudo -s, and fighting with the X credentials. [00:07] so you proberly dont need sux. :) but im used to useing it from years of ussage [00:08] But what if you were not using KDE or Gnome, so had neitehr kdesudo or gksudo? [00:08] :) [00:08] guys i heard it's not good to use both apt-get and synaptic [00:08] is it true? [00:08] iwantfool: they are both front ends to the same stuff.. [00:08] yes [00:08] so it dosent matter. it pays to learn apt-get [00:08] so yes or no... [00:08] learn to use aptitude aptitude [00:09] aptitude [00:09] okdude ;) [00:09] from what i gather now a days aptitude these days is not as needed as it once was.. and i HAVE had aptitude do some weird things [00:09] so i never use it [00:09] it once removed 300 packages.. then reinstalled them... [00:09] never did figure out why [00:09] iwantfool: you caan use any you like, just not at the same time as only one app can access the packages at one time [00:09] !apt-get [00:10] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE) [00:10] dr_willis: yea it likes to remove unrequired pacakges [00:10] Ace2017_-: That's the site I've been trying to use to get fglrx running, but it doesn't have instructions for 8.10 and the ones for 8.04 aren't working :/ [00:10] but these were required.. heh.. [00:11] I've installed all the apt packages for fglrx, but module assistant isn't building it. Any ideas what I could still be missing? [00:11] Mr_Grieves||: first sudo m-a update, then m-a a-i fglrx [00:12] Ok. [00:13] "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" No luck -- and the log is empty [00:13] doesn't say why? do you have kernel headers installed? [00:13] Mr_Grieves||: kernel headers maybe [00:14] Heh that's probably it. I'm used to Gentoo, where if you don't have the headers, you don't have a kernel ;) [00:14] ok guys i think it got installed i need to restart [00:14] Is there a reason that the headers wouldn't be pulled in with the fglrx stuff? [00:14] how will i really know that my drivers got installed? [00:15] Mr_Grieves||: ubuntu is binary based so having only the binary is acceptable [00:15] iwantfool: what did you install? [00:15] drivers of video card [00:15] nvidia geforce [00:15] how? [00:15] reboot and run glxgears [00:16] from system->administration->hardware drivers [00:16] ActionParsnip: But if the headers are needed to set up fglrx...? :) [00:16] and it found automatically that i needed them [00:16] Mr_Grieves||: if the compile is failing then yes [00:16] so what happens when you run them? i can run them now... [00:16] iwantfool: glxgears is a poor 3d tester [00:17] iwantfool: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga [00:17] Hrm, the headers have been installed all along :/ [00:17] IMPORTANT: A SPACECRAFT UNUTILIZED A MISSIL WHITH LAZER [00:17] moreno: ??? [00:17] !caps | moreno [00:17] moreno: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. [00:17] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GT (rev a1) [00:17] n [00:17] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIYpdBJxxdI [00:18] moreno: #ubuntu-offtopic [00:18] ok i'll just restart [00:18] fodase [00:18] c u.... [00:18] bue [00:18] bye [00:19] he need to: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177 [00:19] Hrm it's not the headers -- any other ideas why module-assistant won't build fglrx? [00:19] ActionParsnip: nope [00:19] ActionParsnip: ubuntu so he used the auto installer thing [00:19] if he's using intrepid, yep [00:19] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/nvidia-glx-177 [00:20] search that page for 8600 [00:20] 177 is way old [00:20] its not a case of old, its what works [00:20] he coiuld try the 180 [00:21] Ace2017_-, kiko [00:21] fwiw - I had issues w/ 177 and 180 cleared them up... [00:22] with a 6200 [00:22] GWild: my 6250 works awesome with 177 [00:22] well when you update to 180 you'll realise what you are missing [00:22] 6150 sorry [00:23] i tried the 180, it was horrible [00:23] 180.29? [00:23] 180.35 is broken [00:23] games ran not nearly as well as they did with the 177 [00:25] Ace2017_-: how can I get 180.29 is .35 is out and will suprceed it? [00:25] ActionParsnip: Ya, could be a function of the other system hw. 177 gave me really bad 'vid lines' [00:25] alguien habla español [00:25] !es [00:25] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:25] ActionParsnip: google [00:25] well what i have aint broken, so im not gonna fix it [00:26] same here [00:26] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1927376 [00:27] * Mr_Grieves|| misses nvidia [00:27] * Ace2017_- also misses nvidia [00:27] i run fglrx now, used to use the onboard nvidia, about the same performance [00:28] Ace2017_-: why are there 3 run files for 1 driver? [00:28] but i don't play games only run kde4 [00:28] I never had this much trouble installing their drivers, though. I have the headers, everything with fglrx in the name, and module-assistant is still failing. [00:28] And the lack of info in the log is probably the most frustrating bit. [00:28] ActionParsnip: get the 0.run i did find the difference but can't remember what it was but i do remember that i only needed 0.run [00:28] configure: error: The important program dcopidl was not found! Please check whether you installed KDE correctly [00:28] it is. [00:29] i'm trying to install PerlQt Designer [00:29] anyone know where ican find 'dcopidl'? [00:29] i cant find it anywhere, [00:30] k0pp: kdelibs4-dev === R3DB0x is now known as boboso [00:30] aahh thank you. [00:31] i'll give it a whack, i need a project [00:31] brb [00:31] hello guys [00:32] so how do i check that the drivers of my video card are correctly installed? [00:32] glxinfo [00:32] and glxgears [00:35] is 1000+ fps good? [00:35] GWild, i believe so. [00:35] k0pp: k, thx [00:36] Ace that is not helping [00:36] come one... [00:42] iwantfool: run glxinfo in the command line [00:43] you're looking for: server glx vendor string: NVIDIA [00:43] also direct rendering: Yes [00:43] nvidia-settings [00:44] it's installed :) [00:44] that#s their interface to work with your card :) [00:44] run glxgears [00:44] it runs [00:44] but it runed even before the nvidia [00:44] so forget about that stupid program [00:45] :) its a speed test to see if the nvidia drivers are working [00:45] but glxinfo is a better tool for that. [00:46] has anyone run glxgears overnight? [00:47] dr_willis: is glxgears on nvidia and ati comparable? [00:49] glxgears shoudl work with both [00:49] ati has their own variant fglrx_gears i think [00:49] guys thank you very much :) [00:49] i owe you [00:49] its just shows fps.. not much of a test. :) [00:49] if you want anything just tell me [00:49] but can you compare fps vales on nvidia and ati? [00:50] glxgears is not a good benchmark [00:50] its just a test.. was it higher now then befor.. if you get a 5 befor and a 500000000000 now.. :) [00:50] is this cpu 64 bit compatible? http://pastebin.com/m5375b04f [00:50] * Ace2017_- wonders if there is a good benchmark [00:50] Quake3 :) is da benchmak! [00:50] :) [00:51] quake 3 ftw!!!! [00:51] keres: don't think so [00:51] Ace2017_-: so it isn't ? [00:51] model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz [00:51] you could of just pasted that.. :) [00:51] I dont think so either [00:53] hi [00:53] well the P4-600 series was 64bit [00:54] http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/archive/2006/01/19/81462.aspx Is my processor x64 Capable? [00:54] First, the easy ones. All Pentium D processors (800 series) are x64 capable, as well as being dual core. All mobile Intel processors, including the new Core Duo processors, are not x64 capable. [00:55] I wonder if that ATOM is 64bit.. (i dont think it is) [00:55] Still no luck with fglrx :( [00:56] build-essentials? [00:56] Ace2017_-: it installed. Is there a way to install it without needing to run m-a? [00:57] *it is installed [00:57] Mr_Grieves||: run m-a on its own, it'll give a console based gui [00:57] Mr_Grieves||: update, prepare, then install fglrx [00:57] oK. [00:58] Ace2017_-: Still fails -- nothing in the log. [00:58] I can modprobe fglrx, but but I get: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-13-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory [00:59] So it should be installed already? [00:59] ls /lib/modules/2.6.27-13-generic/updates/dkms/ [00:59] that'll tell you [00:59] oh [00:59] only fglrx.ko is there. [00:59] its compiled already, thats why its not recompiling it [01:00] Mr_Grieves||: maybe force the install so it gets recompiled [01:00] m-a a-i fglrx -f [01:00] Ok. [01:01] sounds wierd. [01:01] Mr_Grieves||: then check dmesg for the error === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [01:03] It builds it, installs it, then an ncurses dialog pops up with the error "Build of the package fglrx-kernel-source failed!" [01:03] whats the error? [01:03] it presents an option to view the log, which only contains the name of the log file and the time. [01:03] There isn't one that I can see. [01:04] Here's the entire log file: Build log starting, file: /var/cache/modass/fglrx-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.27-13-generic.1237251719 [01:04] Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:01:59 -0500 [01:04] That's it. [01:05] The module is installed again to the same location, and modprobing gives the same error about memory. [01:06] what memory error? [01:06] FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-13-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): Cannot allocate memory [01:06] do you have drm or radeon loaded? you'll have to rmmod those before fglrx will load [01:06] Ace2017_-: They're not in my lsmod [01:07] aticonfig says "Uninitialised file found, configuring.", then segfaults. [01:07] when you modprobe it you get something in dmesg right? what is it? [01:08] dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1362892 [01:09] is this a custom kernel? [01:10] wait i see, its not [01:10] Nope -- 2.6.23-11-generic [01:10] er, 13 now -- recently upgraded :) [01:11] dang, I can't type today -- 2.6.27-13-generic [01:12] google mentions the drm module a lot [01:12] maybe you should remove the fglrx kernel from the repo and get m-a to build you one [01:12] Ok, I'll give that a go. [01:16] Hrm, now it's telling me to add the contrib and non-free repos to sources.list [01:16] do it [01:16] All of them are uncommented -- I'll google for some more... [01:17] WTF. Now it's going. I didn't change sources.list.... [01:17] did it update the sources list for you? [01:17] ...and failed. Still with an empty error log. [01:17] Possibly. [01:18] module asssistant is supposed to download the deps [01:18] A new error just popped up this time: "find: `/usr/src/modules/fglrx*': No such file or directory" [01:19] you can't modprobe it [01:19] its uninstalled [01:19] you have to install it [01:19] It actually finds it now when I modprobe, it just can allocate memory? [01:20] what? but it was uninstalled [01:20] rmmod it [01:20] It's not loaded. [01:21] I think the m-a is building it and installing it, then barfing on some post-install stuff maybe? [01:25] Mr_Grieves||: do you have restricted modules installed? [01:28] Ace2017_-: yes [01:28] remove it and try m-a one more time [01:31] Ace2017_-: hmm, it wants to remove my kernel when I do that [01:32] oh [01:32] :) [01:32] I did clean out some older versions -- maybe that will help. [01:33] Nope. [01:34] you can't remove linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`? [01:36] linux-generic is on the list of packages to be removed when I do that [01:36] Mr_Grieves||: linux-generic is a dummy package, dpkg -l linux-generic will show that [01:37] its a metapacakge [01:37] ah ok. [01:37] linux-image-generic is the one you don't want removed [01:38] Ok. I think I installed that to get the module for my wireless card (ath5k). Can I use m-a to install that, too? [01:39] not sure [01:39] Everytime I boot, Kubuntu tells me that my sound card has been removed, but it hasn't. What could be causing this? (Running Kubuntu 8.10/KDE4.2 [01:39] hello [01:42] m-a is sending me in circles: http://pastebin.ca/1362923 [01:42] Then when I re-install the drivers it works just fine. [01:43] Ack, that was a bit long of a paste -- starting at about line 160 and down gives a good idea of what's going on. [01:45] Mr_Grieves||: what if you use the m-a console gui, and do the update, prepare and then select what you need and install? [01:46] I've tried that with no luck earlier. I'm gonna take a break for a while, and try to recover some brain. Thanks for the ideas, Ace2017_- :) [01:47] ok, i'm off to bed, bye and good luck [01:48] Thanks :) [01:55] good evening [01:56] can anyone help me with a CRT / resolutio flickering problem in KDE? === paulo is now known as paulocelso68 [02:50] My sound is really low but everything in the mixer is on max, is there any where else I could increase it? [03:12] Does anyone know why I get no sound from firefox on my fresh install of kubuntu? I haven't even changed any settings [03:12] I've googled my ass off and I find nothing === nico_ is now known as n1c0 [03:17] MadEchidna: does other things give sound? [03:19] what sort of sound does firefox normally make? o_O ? [03:20] Ketrel: yes [03:20] I just played some music in Amarok with no issues [03:20] but when I watch youtube videos I can't hear anything [03:23] ok so its flash thats at faulot, not firefox [03:24] try [03:24] sudo apt-get install libflashsupport [03:25] Package libflashsupport is not available, but is referred to by another package. [03:25] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [03:25] is only available from another source [03:25] E: Package libflashsupport has no installation candidate [03:25] hrm [03:25] upgrade to flash 10 maybe? [03:26] it's a fresh install of 9.04 [03:26] it has flash 10 by default [03:26] oh ok [03:26] i know nothing of 9.04, sorry [03:27] what are you using? [03:27] 8.10 [03:27] uh 8.04 i mean [03:27] oh I meant 8.10 excuse me [03:28] why are you using 8.04? [03:28] i upgraded to 8.10, but it removes kde 3.5 and installs kde 4.x [03:28] and i hate kde 4.x [03:28] so i rolled back [03:33] hey what office / word processor etc. app do you guys use? openoffice everyone? [03:38] i have never used IRC before, can anyone steer me to rooms? [03:40] hi i had a usb hard drive that i was using (ntfs file system) and now it wont mount, when i fdisk -l it shows up with /dev/sdb with no volumes listed any thoughts? [04:14] why everytme i reboot or log back into kde 4.2 my resolution is very high, and it wont switch to my 1280x960 until i open the desktop resolution screen, it auto switchs to what I chose? [04:19] Does anyone know why X doesnt want to refresh to my chosen resolution each time i restart? [04:19] Sucks having to open the resolution screen each time, to get into my chosen res. [04:28] how do install a deb package using terminal? [04:30] nm its dpkg -i 'package name' [04:37] anyone using medibuntu skype installs on kubuntu? I can install fine but chat does not work, always with the message cannot be delivered === mike_ is now known as Guest7935 [05:00] how can i make my bottom panel be on top of the screen? [05:04] <__mikem> I would like to give kde4.2 a spin. Whats the name of the package to install it? [05:06] commander_: kde 3.5 or 4? [05:06] <__mikem> anybody? [05:06] kde 4..the one with the white spots in the background [05:07] i don't know if it's 4.2 [05:07] commander_: one sec - booting kde 4.2 in vm [05:07] <__mikem> goofey, how do I install kde 4.2? I don't know the name of the package [05:08] __mikem: if somneone knows the answer to your question - they will answer you - please don't ask folks at random [05:09] <__mikem> goofey, well I figured since you were booting into 4.2 to help commander_ you must have installed it, and therefore know how to install it [05:10] commander_: ok, if you click the half-moon the the right of the panel, a window slides open that allows you to resize - you can drag this window to the top (at least in 4.2 you can) [05:10] __mikem: you guessed wrong - this is an alpha install of jaunty - come with 4.2 already [05:11] <__mikem> goofey, sorry :( [05:12] __mikem: which verson of kubuntu (or ubuntu) do you have? [05:12] ok thanks [05:12] <__mikem> goofey, intrepid [05:13] commander_: np [05:13] <__mikem> goofey, nevermind, I found a site that helped http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-install-kde-42/ [05:13] <__mikem> thanks [05:13] __mikem: I liked this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-42-stable-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html [05:13] beardbar: i use skype, it works. [05:14] __mikem: enjoy - 4.2 seems pretty nice - FWIW, 4.2 will come with jaunty in 6 weeks or so [05:14] <__mikem> hopefully it will be more stable than kde4.1 [05:15] <__mikem> goofey, the repository and package is different in your link [05:15] <__mikem> the site I linked to asked me to add a ppa repository and install something called kde-nightly [05:16] __mikem: kde nightly isn't stable (I think) - it's nightly builds - no gaurentee of stability [05:16] <__mikem> goofey, its a good thing it wasn't done downloading [05:16] __mikem: :) [05:16] <__mikem> thanks [05:17] __mikem: anytime [05:18] <__mikem> the thing gave me a strange error about unmet dependencies [05:19] <__mikem> http://pastebin.com/d6d20ced1 [05:20] <__mikem> goofey, any ideas ^ [05:21] __mikem: I've not seen that before - sorry, i have no idea [05:21] __mikem: stick aorund, someone will know [05:21] <__mikem> okay [05:24] __mikem: Kubuntu-desktop is a meta package for kubuntu which has the dependancies to all the packages which are part of the official Kubuntu release [05:25] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, okay, so does that mean I should go back to installing from kde-nightly package? [05:25] If you install kde 4.2, which is not part of the official 8.10 release ... you will get unmet dependancies when you wawnt to install kubuntu-desktop [05:26] just don't install the package kubuntu-desktop, and you should be ok [05:26] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, well, if I just want the bare bones KDE4.2, what package should I install? [05:27] Not sure, but if you have checked the backports/ unsupported updates option in Adept > Sources ... then your KDE will just update to KDE 4.2 ... [05:28] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, I am on gnome right now, I just want to try out kde4.2. Havn't used kde since 3.4 [05:29] so.. what i don't get.. in konqueror when i middle click to close a tab, i get an error message: "protocol not supported" [05:29] what's the middle mouse button's function? [05:29] aahh ... well, just start installing kde packages then ... maybe the most handy in a konsole ... [05:30] __mikem: start with kdebase-workspace [05:30] or.. [05:30] the easiest way in ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [05:30] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, thatfailed [05:31] <__mikem> god I hate this spacebar [05:31] however __mikem, the default kde version for kubuntu intrepid is 4.1 which isn't quite kde 4.2 [05:31] __mikem: if you do in a terminal "dpkg -l kdebase* you will see which packages you can install [05:32] <__mikem> kdebase-workspace depends on klipper, ksysguard, kde-window-manager, systemsettings, kdm, and kdebase-plasma [05:32] __mikem: And ? These won't get installed ? [05:32] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, yes [05:32] __mikem: take a look http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 to upgrade the default kubuntu kde version to kde 4.2 [05:33] <__mikem> astrobear, I am trying to go from gnome to kde [05:33] astrobear: He is on gnome now [05:33] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [05:33] :-) [05:33] No [05:33] why? [05:33] he want kde 4.2 .... not kde 4.1.4 [05:33] <__mikem> http://pastebin.com/d5ddd1ba0 <-- Slartibartfast [05:34] kubuntu-desktop has unmet dependancies [05:34] install kubuntu-desktop and follow the upgrade instructions [05:34] right? [05:34] i thought it was easy [05:35] astrobear: He followed somebody elses howto ... not the official one [05:36] remove what you have, and then follow what i said [05:36] * __mikem is seriously considering just going with kde-nightly [05:36] don't ya think Slarti? [05:36] __mikem: maybe you need to uncheck the unsupported updates first .... do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ... [05:36] astrobear: you are right [05:37] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, you mean uncheck and then do the sudo apt-get update thing [05:37] Yes [05:37] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, and the option is under updates? [05:37] __mikem: Then you won't have the unmet dependancies when installing kubuntu-desktop [05:37] <__mikem> it already is unchecked [05:38] Did you do "sudo apt-get update" ? [05:39] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, I did the last time [05:39] <__mikem> doesn't seem to have worked [05:40] Let me check that site what you followed ... seems you have something in your sources.list what should not be there [05:41] __mikem: delete "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" from your sources list [05:41] <__mikem> ok [05:42] and do after that "sudo apt-get update" [05:42] <__mikem> ok [05:42] Then you should be able to "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" [05:43] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, but it will be the older version? [05:43] Yes ... but this way will be the most easy [05:43] <__mikem> okay [05:43] <__mikem> okay, this'll take a while though [05:43] Yes [05:44] <__mikem> oh well inthe mean time, I notice you have a slight douglas adams reference in your nick :) [05:44] you noticed too :) [05:44] __mikem: The site you follow is already too old [05:44] KDE 4.2 is already in the backports ... [05:45] No need to get it from kppa.lanchpad.net [05:45] ppa [05:45] <__mikem> so you are going to have me install 4.1, enable backports and then upgrade? [05:45] ack, i need to sleep [05:45] gl __mikem [05:45] Yes [05:45] <__mikem> thanks astrobear [05:45] thanks Slartibartfast for all you do [05:45] np [05:45] takes a lot of patience for support [05:46] <__mikem> I like the atmosphere in this channel much better than that in #ubuntu [05:46] later guys [05:46] yeah the guys here are great [05:46] Cya :-) [05:49] <__mikem> 89% [05:50] __mikem: luckely you have a fast connection then :-) [05:50] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, fast but not reliable :( [05:51] __mikem: after this you can do "sudo apt-get clean" .... no ned to keep this in you package cache [05:51] <__mikem> okay [05:52] __mikem: will free up some space :-) [05:52] <__mikem> I believe I have 20 gb on this partition [05:53] __mikem: i also have that for / on my PC .... more then enough ... but i have a separate /home [05:53] partition [05:53] <__mikem> okay [05:53] <__mikem> just finished, and did the clean [05:54] OK ... then check the unsupported updates .... [05:54] <__mikem> Slartibartfast, okay [05:55] then refresh .... sudo apt-get update ..... maybe first need to close you GUI package isntaller [05:55] <__mikem> did that [05:56] And then "sudo apt-get upgrade" [05:57]