| savvas | so community-themes is dropped and not supported? | 03:23 |
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| _MMA_ | savvas: How so? | 03:24 |
| savvas | Conflicts: community-themes | 03:25 |
| savvas | using: apt-cache show gnome-themes-ubuntu | 03:25 |
| _MMA_ | Looks like they might have been moved. | 03:26 |
| savvas | but not all? | 03:27 |
| savvas | I guess Kin is outdated then? :) | 03:27 |
| _MMA_ | savvas: We should stop guessing. ;) | 03:28 |
| savvas | haha ok | 03:28 |
| ApOgEEk | hi all | 05:23 |
| o0Chris0o | hi | 06:04 |
| === khashaya` is now known as khashayar | ||
| _MMA_ | Nice! (Colin's last comment on bug 326501) | 12:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326501 in tasksel "wrong description for ubuntustudio-desktop " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326501 | 12:44 |
| _MMA_ | gah. Wrong channel | 12:44 |
| _MMA_ | Speaking of bugs still... | 12:45 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: How do you wanna handle bug 343940? | 12:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 343940 in gtk2-engines-murrine "murrine needs update to 0.90.0 (diff.gz attached)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343940 | 12:45 |
| _MMA_ | (this is what I PM'ed you about) | 12:45 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: someone should subscribe main sponsors | 12:53 |
| kwwii | after there is a pacakge | 12:53 |
| kwwii | package | 12:53 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: The diff isn't enough? | 12:55 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: it might be, not sure about that because that is not how I do my stuff | 12:55 |
| kwwii | as images are diff-able | 12:55 |
| kwwii | aren't | 12:55 |
| _MMA_ | khashayar: ^^^ | 12:55 |
| kwwii | subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors and pitti :) | 12:56 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Well in addition to that can you do some poking? | 12:56 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: how well has this stuff been tested? | 12:56 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: How well was the last one tested? :) | 12:57 |
| kwwii | quite well, actually | 12:57 |
| kwwii | not that it need be bug free, but it shouldn't introduce and new problems | 12:57 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Well, Cimi stakes his rep on this one. ;) | 12:57 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: is pitti part of ubuntu-main-sponsors? | 12:58 |
| _MMA_ | (don't wanna sub him twice) | 12:58 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: He's on the team. I don't think I should sub him directly. | 12:59 |
| _MMA_ | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-main-sponsors/+members | 12:59 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: ping him in chat | 12:59 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: I just think you would get a little more traction on this if you did. (when you get a min) | 13:00 |
| kwwii | ok, I'll ask him | 13:01 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: hehe | 13:05 |
| kwwii | 14:04 < seb128> the gtk2-engines-murrine has been updated by a desktop team contributor this morning and is waiting for sponsoring | 13:05 |
| kwwii | see how hard that was? | 13:06 |
| * khashayar is here | 13:08 | |
| khashayar | _MMA_: Am I needed? | 13:08 |
| _MMA_ | khashayar: I don't know now... :) | 13:15 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Ok.. Was it from that bug? If not, I guess it should be closed. | 13:16 |
| khashayar | _MMA_: Cool. I'll be around for a while in case anything's needed from me. | 13:18 |
| _MMA_ | k | 13:18 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: no idea, all I know is what seb told me | 13:23 |
| _MMA_ | k | 13:24 |
| === khashaya` is now known as khashayar | ||
| thorwil | *yawn* | 19:17 |
| * _MMA_ scratches self. | 19:20 | |
| * kwwii stares at _MMA_ scratching | 19:26 | |
| kwwii | in a funky kinda bad way | 19:26 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 19:27 |
| kwwii | Cimi: did you see that murrine made it in jaunty? | 20:13 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: did you see my email? | 20:52 |
| kwwii | not that I am the most important person in the world, but I figured I should ask :-) | 20:52 |
| MadsRH | kwwii -> Yes I just read it now. (sorry for the late reply) | 21:13 |
| MadsRH | kwwii -> I asked for the source, but he didn't sent it. I don't think he speaks/writes english very well | 21:13 |
| knome | source for what? | 21:19 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: or he simply doesn't have it | 21:43 |
| kwwii | I imagine that a lot of what we get are copies of copies | 21:43 |
| kwwii | and people just don't know | 21:43 |
| MadsRH | kwwii -> actually I think he doesn't | 21:43 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: if possible I would like to ask again | 21:44 |
| kwwii | it is very well liked amongst the brass in canonical | 21:44 |
| kwwii | I showed them your ldm theme and they shit | 21:44 |
| kwwii | proverbiably speaking | 21:45 |
| kwwii | :-) | 21:45 |
| kwwii | so +1 for you from the bosses | 21:45 |
| MadsRH | there's (perhaps) an issue. If he isn't the creator of this artwork, it could be copyrighted | 21:45 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: well, you asked and got a resonse, right? | 21:45 |
| kwwii | and it seems to be legit | 21:46 |
| kwwii | if he lied, how can we know? | 21:46 |
| MadsRH | he he, that is wonderful news - but I just colored the artwork ;-) | 21:46 |
| kwwii | I mean, if you have seen the pic somewhere else, please admit it | 21:46 |
| kwwii | I haven't | 21:46 |
| kwwii | I remember seeing it on gnome-look | 21:46 |
| kwwii | but that is all | 21:46 |
| kwwii | at the time I liked it | 21:46 |
| kwwii | I never considered doing what you did to it, and what you did is really nice :-) | 21:47 |
| kwwii | in any case, if someone knows something about that pic and wants to warn us, they should | 21:47 |
| MadsRH | well that's just it. I'm writing Stéphane as we speak, because I found very very similar images on www.shutterstock.com | 21:47 |
| kwwii | hehe, ouch | 21:47 |
| MadsRH | I'll try to find the link again and send it to you, | 21:48 |
| kwwii | if it is really similar and protected we are up the creek | 21:48 |
| kwwii | erm, sending it to me is probably bad | 21:48 |
| kwwii | just be sure it is really the thing and *then* send it to me | 21:48 |
| kwwii | not to be stupid | 21:48 |
| kwwii | but don't just start sending me similar pics | 21:48 |
| kwwii | as they really kills deniability | 21:48 |
| kwwii | :) | 21:49 |
| kwwii | if it is the same pic, please let me know | 21:49 |
| kwwii | or a *very* apparent copy | 21:49 |
| MadsRH | okay, i get your point - by similar i mean a match ;-) | 21:49 |
| kwwii | ouch | 21:49 |
| kwwii | that sucks | 21:49 |
| kwwii | ok, send it to me | 21:50 |
| kwwii | :( | 21:50 |
| kwwii | people suck | 21:50 |
| kwwii | lol | 21:50 |
| MadsRH | It cought my eye beacuse it is the exact same as the one on Gnome-look. Not fliped or colored - a match | 21:50 |
| kwwii | instead of learning how to do art I should have learned how to program a computer to do art | 21:50 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: well, it depends on the license of the original pic | 21:50 |
| kwwii | if it really is a copy | 21:51 |
| kwwii | in the meantime, this is *really* important | 21:51 |
| kwwii | as they are considering including it as a second wallpaper in Jaunty | 21:51 |
| knome | about what pic are we talking about? :P | 21:51 |
| MadsRH | Hopefully I've bookmarked it in Jaunty so I'll have to reboot | 21:51 |
| kwwii | knome: "this is not the pic I are looking for" I say, waving my hand in a jedi manner | 21:52 |
| kwwii | erm | 21:52 |
| kwwii | well | 21:52 |
| kwwii | close enough | 21:52 |
| knome | ...right | 21:52 |
| MadsRH | kwwii -> a second? I'm really looking forward to the first :-D | 21:52 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: dude...be real | 21:53 |
| kwwii | ubuntu is brown | 21:53 |
| kwwii | deal with it | 21:53 |
| kwwii | roses are red, violets are blue, ubuntu is brown, and that is the color of fecal matter I laughingly say :p | 21:54 |
| kwwii | although "that's the color of poo" fits as well | 21:54 |
| MadsRH | kwwii -> perhaps you got me wrong, nevermind. I'll just reboot and find the bookmark. If you're not here I'll email you | 21:54 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: please do, I will be up for a while but watching a film | 21:55 |
| kwwii | so it might take a bit to respond | 21:55 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Do we have to change anything in the themes shipping with Ubuntu to be more compatible with this new version of Murrine? | 22:04 |
| Cimi | they will work | 22:04 |
| _MMA_ | k | 22:05 |
| Cimi | though it should be time to upgrade them | 22:05 |
| Cimi | ehm | 22:05 |
| Cimi | rewrite them | 22:05 |
| _MMA_ | Any suggestions? | 22:05 |
| Cimi | of course | 22:05 |
| Cimi | wait 1 minute | 22:05 |
| _MMA_ | k | 22:05 |
| Cimi | _MMA_, https://code.launchpad.net/~murrine-themes-team/murrine-themes/common-gtkrc | 22:10 |
| * _MMA_ looks | 22:10 | |
| Cimi | _MMA_, this is a good template, it contains fixes for many applications and custom widgets | 22:11 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Cool. I'll have to work on it ASAP. | 22:11 |
| _MMA_ | ("it" being Studio's theme) | 22:11 |
| Cimi | feel free to branch if you want | 22:12 |
| Cimi | so you can merge the changes | 22:12 |
| Cimi | everytime a new fix arrives we update that gtkrc | 22:12 |
| _MMA_ | k | 22:13 |
| Cimi | kwwii, you should set that link as your new firefox homepage | 22:18 |
| kwwii | Cimi: no doubt | 22:19 |
| Cimi | kwwii, it will fix all your issue/hacks into Human | 22:20 |
| Cimi | you won't need them any longer | 22:20 |
| kwwii | Cimi: erm, so what can we change for Jaunty? | 22:21 |
| kwwii | in the human theme, I mean | 22:21 |
| kwwii | that is qutie important as we are two days before beta | 22:21 |
| kwwii | erm, quite | 22:21 |
| Cimi | what you should do is: rm -rf --force --destroy --nuke Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc | 22:21 |
| Cimi | what you will do... ehm I don't know :-) | 22:22 |
| kwwii | please, this is really important that we get it right...really, at this time with everything else going on around it is really, really important | 22:22 |
| Cimi | kwwii, you should get the common-gtkrc's gtkrc from that branch | 22:22 |
| Cimi | and adjust colors and styles | 22:22 |
| Cimi | using shade and not mix and other wrong ways | 22:23 |
| Cimi | _MMA_, you should do the same for ubuntustudio, but I'm sure it is not dramatic as Human | 22:25 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: I will be, but not for Jaunty. | 22:25 |
| Cimi | Human was a theme done for ubuntulooks, which contains some strange things into the code (like static colors etc etc) which required hacks in the gtkrc to have them changed | 22:26 |
| Cimi | when Human switched to murrine, the gtkrc taken as a base was the same, and the ubuntulooks's custom code remains | 22:26 |
| Cimi | for example | 22:27 |
| Cimi | that's why the Human metacity is much darker then the selected bg color chosen in the gnome control center | 22:28 |
| kwwii | Cimi: HEY, in case you haven't noticed it is one day before the beta freeze | 22:28 |
| kwwii | I simply don't have time to do taht | 22:28 |
| kwwii | that | 22:28 |
| Cimi | kwwii, rewriting a theme could be done in 30minutes | 22:28 |
| Cimi | ok | 22:28 |
| kwwii | I am working on like 3 other things at the same time | 22:28 |
| kwwii | I have been up since 8 my time | 22:29 |
| Cimi | yeah | 22:29 |
| kwwii | it is 23:30 | 22:29 |
| Cimi | I'm not forcing you to this for jaunty | 22:29 |
| kwwii | but we need it for jaunty, really | 22:29 |
| Cimi | I'd just like to point out the importance of this thing | 22:29 |
| Cimi | kwwii, ask lucazade | 22:30 |
| kwwii | yeah, me too | 22:30 |
| Cimi | when he will come back | 22:30 |
| Cimi | he is very good | 22:30 |
| Cimi | kwwii, I have asked Luca on facebook, but it is not online now | 22:35 |
| dashua | kwwii: I can help re-write Human, I'm sure I have a variation around somewhere all based on the murrine common-gtkrc. | 22:43 |
| dashua | Give me some direction and I'll get started. | 22:43 |
| Cimi | kwwii, yeah dashua has good experience too | 22:43 |
| dashua | My contrast might be a bit low though ;p | 22:44 |
| Cimi | don't touch contrast | 22:45 |
| Cimi | I will refine the theme | 22:45 |
| dashua | Ok | 22:45 |
| dashua | I'm going to get rid of all of those mix hacks as I think I may have already. | 22:46 |
| Cimi | kwwii, there's lucazade too | 22:48 |
| lucazade | hi all | 22:49 |
| kwwii | hi lucazade | 22:49 |
| kwwii | please make me happy now | 22:49 |
| kwwii | :p | 22:49 |
| kwwii | immediately if possible | 22:49 |
| kwwii | :D | 22:49 |
| kwwii | sorry | 22:49 |
| _MMA_ | haha | 22:51 |
| kwwii | lucazade: I am trying to find someone who understands the new murrine engine enough to port the human gtkrc to the newest bling | 22:52 |
| MadsRH | kwwii -> did you get my email? | 22:52 |
| kwwii | and Cimi tells me you rock | 22:52 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: yes, did you get mine? | 22:52 |
| kwwii | it has a few company peeps in CC | 22:52 |
| kwwii | so it is killed | 22:53 |
| kwwii | and we will look into options tomorrow | 22:53 |
| kwwii | MadsRH: you also rock for taking care of this | 22:53 |
| lucazade | thanks.. dunno if rock.. :) i can try to make some modification to human theme | 22:53 |
| kwwii | thanks so much | 22:53 |
| MadsRH | Oh, just got it now (hate rebooting all the time :-)) | 22:53 |
| kwwii | lucazade: trust me, if you spend an hour knowing what you are doing on the human theme you rock | 22:53 |
| lucazade | is there anything you dislike more? | 22:54 |
| Cimi | lucazade, of course, consider common-gtkrc as a base | 22:54 |
| lucazade | i'll post here o i'll tell to cimi if i get something nice | 22:57 |
| kwwii | lucazade: the thing is, we need to stay pretty close to the look of human for this release...for akrmic we are free to roam | 23:03 |
| lucazade | ok kwwii | 23:04 |
| Cimi | kwwii, metacity? | 23:05 |
| kwwii | Cimi: yes, we are still using it | 23:06 |
| kwwii | reluctantly | 23:06 |
| Cimi | can we fork the Clearlooks theme and make it similar to Human? | 23:06 |
| Cimi | Clearlooks theme is 30% faster and compatible with dark themes | 23:07 |
| Cimi | lucazade, I've removed the shadows around the comboboxentry's button | 23:15 |
| Cimi | just like clearlooks | 23:15 |
| lucazade | haven't tried yet .. going to check it | 23:15 |
| Cimi | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/175266/Schermata.png | 23:17 |
| Cimi | lucazade, see firefox's address bar | 23:18 |
| lucazade | :) | 23:18 |
| Cimi | like yes/no | 23:19 |
| Cimi | ? | 23:19 |
| lucazade | yes is nice, btw i liked also the previous one | 23:20 |
| lucazade | which was the issue with it? | 23:21 |
| lucazade | no needs of shadow? | 23:21 |
| Cimi | lucazade, I think that it doesn't look consistent with the entry | 23:22 |
| lucazade | ok | 23:22 |
| lucazade | yes more consistent, i agree | 23:23 |
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