[02:44] <bcurtiswx> ugh: why do people set their bug status as new once they respond to questions.. lol
[04:34] <greg-g> dtchen: when you have a moment to aid a willing learner in debugging a sound problem, could you take a look at a bug I just reported? bug 344057
[05:19] <ApOgEEk> hi all
[05:20] <ApOgEEk> anybody here?
[05:21] <ApOgEEk> bdmurray, r u there?
[05:21] <ApOgEEk> bdmurray, I need help. my ubuntu-bugs membership is expiring
[05:40] <greg-g> dtchen: disregard that last comment on the bug for a member, I messed (forgot to uncomment that line)
[05:40] <greg-g> s/member/moment
[05:43] <greg-g> dtchen: now disregard my above statement, I uncommented that line and the same thing happened
[05:44] <greg-g> dtchen: go by the bug report, it is now (back to being) right
[06:31] <YoBoY> good morning
[07:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:42] <thekorn> good morning
[09:09] <BUGabundo> guud morning
[14:17] <bddebian> Boo
[14:31] <BUGabundo> fooooo
[14:32]  * BUGabundo makes smoke signals: puff puff puffff puff
[15:05] <mcnicholls> hi
[15:06] <mcnicholls> if someone has submitted a bug that has been fixed upstream, how should i triage the bug? Do is set confirmed and then add a link to the upstream dist showing it as fixed?
[15:07] <charlie-tca> If it is not fixed in ubuntu yet, it should be fix-committed, and a comment that it is fixed upstream
[15:09] <charlie-tca> per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[15:11] <mcnicholls> ok will do that. it's fixed in debian, so will this situation either require a package sync from debian or a patch to the ubuntu package?
[15:15] <charlie-tca> If it is a package in use, it should sync automatically, I think. I am not sure, though
[15:16] <charlie-tca> Most of the time, as a triager, you don't have to request the sync, it just happens, to the best of my knowledge
[15:17] <mcnicholls> ok thanks. new to all this stuff so just trying to understand the processes.
[15:19] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: aren't we past auto syncs?
[15:25] <mcnicholls> i know we are past DebianFreeze and FeatureFreeze, but i am guessing you can get a sync done at this point for bug fixes?
[15:26] <greg-g> BUGabundo: autosyncs, yes.  But we can do manual sync
[15:26] <greg-g> mcnicholls: yeah, generally yes.
[15:26] <greg-g> I am less familiar with the sync process and would have to read the wiki pages myself.
[15:27] <greg-g> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess
[15:27] <greg-g> mcnicholls: that will help ^
[16:20] <mcnicholls> greg-g: thanks for that. will have a read.
[18:28] <mrooney> seb128: do you know the dupe for bug 344424? I can't seem to find it
[18:28] <mrooney> partly because going to a bug listing on LP causes Xorg to consume 100% cpu for me
[18:29] <seb128> mrooney: bug #333366
[18:29] <mrooney> seb128: thank you sir!
[18:29] <seb128> you're welcome
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> mrooney - just seen your response in bug 344385
[19:01] <Arkain> I've got a problem and I don't know where to drop it, but Intrepid for amd64 has a memory leak
[19:02] <Arkain> ... and it's most-likely a kernel leak
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> would you mind copying the icons from the Human theme in to /usr/share/notify-osd/icons, just to see if it works then (with a non human theme)?
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> remember to back up the directory first
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> don't want you breaking your system ;)
[19:03] <Arkain> Depending on the size of the block being allocated, the system will consume all RAM and swap. It also refuses to shut down properly.
[19:05] <Arkain> I first noticed the problem while running VBox. The host system ram and swap would be all but completely consumed in under 3 hours.
[19:05] <Arkain> Shutting down Vbox would leave a zombie. Even killing the parent process didn't help as init is unable to kill this zombie either.
[19:06] <Arkain> Not running VB, it takes about a day to consume all of RAM and 1/2 of swap just using regular applications.
[19:07] <Arkain> But the end result is the same, the system cannot be shut down properly. Even X will not completely close down. You're left with wallpaper and a mouse that doesn't move, and a frozen keyboard.
[19:09] <Arkain> anyone got any idea how to work around this? It is really hindering my workflow (not to mention ruining a perfectly good uptime).
[19:19] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: okay, back now, I'll try that
[19:23] <adelie42> Hello, had a question about bug status: If a bug has been confirmed by a person other than the reporter, should I change the status to confirmed?
[19:25] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: which bug?
[19:26] <mrooney> Arkain: I would first look for an existing bug, then if you can't find one, file it
[19:26] <adelie42> further, in attempting to hunt down new bugs, I keep coming by many reports marked as 'new' and have patches uploaded. I don't know how this would work otherwise, but of there are several patches for a package, would it be useful to branch, apply, test, and merge?
[19:26] <mrooney> Arkain: if you think it has a fair amount of info, you could link to it in #ubuntu-devel and see if anyone has an idea
[19:26] <adelie42> Just in general, but I can find one in just a moment...
[19:27] <mrooney> adelie42: well if you can't confirm the bug it won't help to test the patch
[19:27] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: where ARE the human theme icons?
[19:27] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/PatchTesting
[19:27] <chrisccoulson> good question
[19:28] <adelie42> mrooney: I am looking for new bugs I think I can fix, but I keep coming by bugs that are marked as 'new' but confirmed and contain patches in the comments. Is there something I can do more useful than ignore these threads
[19:28] <chrisccoulson> in /usr/share/icons/Human/scalable/status, is suspect
[19:28] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: typically if there are confirmations from other users then the poster, we mark as confirmed
[19:29] <mrooney> adelie42: if someone else confirms it and it actually seems like a real confirmation (not a bug saying, my system freezes and someone else saying me too, that probably isn't the same issue :) then I would Confirm it, and you can ask if they'd be willing to test a patched version
[19:29] <adelie42> 'we' being the collective...?
[19:29] <mrooney> adelie42: and if they say yes you could patch it and put up a PPA
[19:30] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: we are the ubuntu, you will be assimilated, resistance if futile
[19:30] <bcurtiswx-mini> is*
[19:31] <adelie42> ok, that 'patchtesting' page looks like it answers the questions I had.
[19:31] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: great!, anything else we can help you with today?
[19:32] <adelie42> mrooney: and no, I wasn't thinking comments like 'yeah, me too', more like "I saw the same thing, heres a screen shot, why hasn't this been fixed yet?" kind of comments followed by a patch.
[19:33] <mrooney> adelie42: yeah those are good to confirm, and get a confirmation that the patch works
[19:33] <adelie42> bcurtiswx-mini: Well, how about you give yourself a pat on the back because I was just a lowly solo hobby programmer in love with Ubuntu a week ago, and now feeling mire fully assimilated, so THANK YOU!
[19:34] <adelie42> more*
[19:34] <bcurtiswx-mini> bdmurray: would the eventual formation of a patch-testing team be possible?
[19:35] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: are you interested in helping to test patches posted in launchpad?
[19:35] <adelie42> Does anyone else feel that maybe the reason there isn't a lot of demand for video games on Linux is because it is too much fun hunting and patching bugs, or is it just me?
[19:35] <mrooney> adelie42: haha
[19:35] <adelie42> bcurtiswx-mini: very muh so, my first merge was approved this morning from my work all weekend, and a second still pending approval
[19:36] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: you would be a very beneficial addition to the team (once i can get one set up)
[19:36] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: hmm there is notification-display-brightness-* and notification-keyboard-brightness-*
[19:37] <bcurtiswx-mini> are there notifications for pidgin on the notify-osd yet?
[19:37] <adelie42> I am still getting used to the code guidelines / format of things, so I have been mostly handling spelling and translation errors to have something useful to do while reading through code and getting more comfortable with the bzr way of doing things
[19:37] <bdmurray> bcurtiswx-mini: eventually but I rather see it start off being part of the bugsquad and talked about there
[19:38] <bcurtiswx-mini> bdmurray: sounds great to me !
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> perhaps it is the keyboard-brightness ones that are missing mrooney?
[19:39] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: hmm nothing seems to be working
[19:39] <mrooney> I shouldn't have to restart anything right?
[19:40] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure then. i don't know the notify-osd code well enough. you could try restarting perhaps
[19:40] <chrisccoulson> the notifications definately work with human theme don't they?
[19:40] <adelie42> bcurtiswx-mini: but I look forward to joining a team in the near future as I become more comfortable with things. Thanks for the patchtesting link. I think I got my work cut out for me today. Thanks again.
[19:40] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: let me right click and "change desktop background" to tell you :)
[19:40] <mrooney> what a poorly named thing
[19:40] <bcurtiswx-mini> adelie42: glad i was of some help
[19:41] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: yeah switching icons to Human works instantly
[19:41] <bcurtiswx-mini> i see on the wiki that pidgin does link with the notify-osd, but its not working on my machine... is there a special package i have to dl?
[19:41] <chrisccoulson> i'm not so sure then. i can maybe take another look later, but i have to disappear for dinner shortly
[19:46] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: okay, I'll add a comment with what I've done
[22:38] <mrooney> Launchpad should really make you super confirm filing a bug with an identical title as one you submitted less than 5 minutes ago
[22:39] <bdmurray> super confirm?
[22:39] <stpere> confirm again I suppose
[22:40] <stpere> are you sure? really sure? I mean.. ... Really sure?
[22:41] <dtchen> greg-g: your comments are a bit confusing
[22:42] <dtchen> greg-g: should i deem your comments in bug 344057 valid or not?