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| * persia peers about | 10:01 | |
| * Hobbsee throws rotten tomatoes at persia | 10:01 | |
| Hobbsee | GOTCHA! | 10:01 |
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| * persia applies the handy uncursed towel (P) | 10:02 | |
| Hobbsee | er, what are you actually peering about for? | 10:03 |
| persia | There was a rumor that the AsiaOceania RMB might meet now, when there might be quorum about. Given the lack of others, I'm guessing the rumour was unfounded. | 10:04 |
| persia | As a result, I expect the meeting will be held later, and don't know if we'll get quorum, as it will be late in Australia. | 10:04 |
| MaWaLe | persia: the meeting is planned fot the 15UTC (on the wiki page) | 10:07 |
| persia | MaWaLe, Indeed, that's what the wiki page says. As I said, it was an apparently unfounded rumour. So, 5 hours from now, I'll peer about again :) | 10:08 |
| MaWaLe | hope that it'll be a quorum this time | 10:09 |
| Technoviking | morning all | 10:59 |
| dholbach | hello | 10:59 |
| dholbach | mdke and Burgundavia are not around and I guess mako is not up yet | 11:00 |
| dholbach | #startmeeting | 11:01 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 06:01. The chair is dholbach. | 11:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 11:01 |
| dholbach | it seems we have one agenda item today: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 11:02 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] Forums Council Re-Elections and New Members | 11:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Forums Council Re-Elections and New Members | 11:02 |
| * dholbach needs a minute or two to get on top of the discussion :) | 11:02 | |
| sabdfl | arrgh, south african bandwidth | 11:04 |
| ubuntugeek | :) | 11:05 |
| dholbach | so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Delegation only applies partly, there's no real "team" connected to the "Forums Community" | 11:05 |
| Technoviking | sabdfl: lagging here too, never heard of St. Patick day lag before:) | 11:05 |
| sabdfl | usually, post-St Patrick's day lag :-) | 11:06 |
| jussi01 | *g* | 11:07 |
| sabdfl | dholbach: i thought we agreed to create such a team? | 11:07 |
| dholbach | sabdfl: there's https://launchpad.net/~forum-council/+members but there's no "members through Forum's participation" - I think I recall us saying that we revisit the decision in a few months of time again | 11:08 |
| dholbach | sabdfl: IIRC the IRC and the Forums community did not like the idea much | 11:08 |
| dholbach | Technoviking would know better than I do :) | 11:08 |
| sabdfl | right | 11:09 |
| sabdfl | i keep thinking we agreed it, because it's what i wanted, but that's not always true :-) | 11:09 |
| * dholbach hugs sabdfl :) | 11:09 | |
| Technoviking | are you talk about a team for all forums members? | 11:10 |
| dholbach | Technoviking: ubuntumembers through forums activity | 11:10 |
| dholbach | so in the absence of such a team right now, it'd make sense for all CC members to review the nominations and cast a vote | 11:10 |
| persia | Could perhaps the polity be all ubuntumembers? Those inactive in the forums would likely abstain. | 11:11 |
| sabdfl1 | i.e., a team of folks who have made significant and sustained contributions to Ubuntu *in the forums* | 11:11 |
| nhandler | persia: That vote wouldn't be able to take place via IRC it would need to be on LP | 11:12 |
| sabdfl1 | i don't think there's a *requirement* for voting on LP | 11:12 |
| sabdfl1 | if there's an agreed, fair and safe voting mechanism in the forums, or the IRC world, communities can use that | 11:12 |
| sabdfl1 | for votes inside that domain, where people are comfortable with those tools | 11:13 |
| nhandler | sabdfl: But if we allow all ubuntumembers to vote, it would be difficult to do it on irc (especially to enforce that only members vote) | 11:13 |
| persia | And the polity needn't necessarily even vote, as long as the right polity is identified/ | 11:13 |
| sabdfl1 | it's cross-team things that usually need LP | 11:13 |
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| sabdfl | sorry, with all the dropping off and reconnecting, i fear i'm not keeping up with the conversation | 11:14 |
| nhandler | You didn't miss anything sabdfl | 11:14 |
| dholbach | for now I think we should decouple the ubuntumembers-through-forums-activity from the new FC members discussion | 11:16 |
| elmo | I agree | 11:17 |
| Technoviking | I guess first thing is, is the CC ok with the Forums Council expanding to 7 members? | 11:19 |
| elmo | I am | 11:20 |
| dholbach | me too, it is a big responsibility and the FC will definitely benefit from more trusted Forums leader to be on board | 11:21 |
| dholbach | sabdfl? | 11:22 |
| Technoviking | must have dropped again | 11:23 |
| dholbach | if we don't come to a conclusion in this meeting I'd suggest starting a new thread with all the voting options to the CC and set a cut-off date in 1-2 weeks so everybody has enough time to send in their vote | 11:26 |
| dholbach | the FC election organisation thread got fairly long already and maybe it wasn't sufficiently clear what was expected of each member | 11:26 |
| Technoviking | dholbach: sounds good | 11:26 |
| dholbach | elmo, sabdfl: does that sound fair to you? | 11:27 |
| elmo | dholbach: sounds good to me | 11:27 |
| Technoviking | I will prepare it | 11:27 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot Technoviking | 11:27 |
| dholbach | [TOPIC] Any other business? | 11:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any other business? | 11:28 |
| persia | I'd just like to thank the CC for continuing the meeting schedule reliably over the past many months, regardless of DST changes, inconveniences of personal schedules, or other matters. | 11:29 |
| dholbach | thanks persia, I'd like to give credit to Claire Newman who reminded me of the meeting dates when I did not think of them. :-) | 11:29 |
| dholbach | ok seems we have no other business - thanks everybody | 11:30 |
| dholbach | #endmeeting | 11:30 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 06:30. | 11:30 |
| * dholbach will update the Team Report | 11:30 | |
| Technoviking | thanks dholbach | 11:31 |
| dholbach | Technoviking: thank YOU | 11:31 |
| sabdfl | argh. ftr, +1 | 11:41 |
| sabdfl | dholbach: ^ sorry for the lag | 11:41 |
| dholbach | sabdfl: no worries - I think it's good if we get all votes of the CC for such an important decision | 11:42 |
| sabdfl | me too | 11:42 |
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| * persia peers about | 14:54 | |
| * MaWaLe hoping that there'll be a quorum | 14:56 | |
| aamachu | hi | 14:56 |
| hito_jp | hi | 14:56 |
| Belutz | amachu, sorry for my long absence | 14:56 |
| MaWaLe | hi amachu | 14:56 |
| persia | hey Belutz | 14:56 |
| Belutz | hi persia | 14:57 |
| Belutz | persia, how things going? | 14:57 |
| persia | Alright. For you? | 14:57 |
| Belutz | I'm alright too, thanks :) | 14:57 |
| Belutz | just a lot of work to do | 14:57 |
| Belutz | and i'm still in the office at 10pm now :D | 14:58 |
| nijaba | @paris | 14:59 |
| sommer | hey all | 14:59 |
| persia | nijaba, The bot can't process the google calendar, and so doesn't track the schedule. Checkhttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | 14:59 |
| persia | Server Team meeting is at 16:00 UTC, which is in an hour | 14:59 |
| nijaba | oki, ta persia | 14:59 |
| aamachu | Belutz: you there :-) | 14:59 |
| aamachu | great the time change worked? | 14:59 |
| Belutz | amachu, i'm here :D | 15:00 |
| aamachu | persia: yes. | 15:00 |
| aamachu | so let me check for one more person | 15:00 |
| aamachu | elky: Hey are you there? | 15:00 |
| Belutz | amachu, maybe it's not working for our friend in australia | 15:00 |
| Belutz | it's probably 2am in there | 15:01 |
| aamachu | lifeless: ? | 15:01 |
| aamachu | Belutz: Yes. persia had commented with his concerns on that | 15:01 |
| b0i_kut3^^ | hello | 15:02 |
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| aamachu | Belutz: got to know about zakame? | 15:02 |
| Belutz | amachu, no i'm not | 15:02 |
| aamachu | persia: we still need one. | 15:03 |
| persia | aamachu, Indeed. If zakame doesn't join us, I think we won't reach quorum. | 15:03 |
| mathiaz | Hello all - for those attending the Ubuntu Server Team we'll move to #ubuntu-server | 15:04 |
| nealmcb | hmmm - the fridge says 16:00 UTC for server team meeting, but Mathias said we'd changed to 15:00 | 15:04 |
| khanh_coltech | can i become Ubuntu member? | 15:04 |
| persia | nealmcb, It seems to be related to some confusion based on some governments insistence that there should be changes to the hours on clocks. | 15:04 |
| nealmcb | indeed.... | 15:05 |
| persia | khanh_coltech, Possibly. If we can get one more of our board members to arrive in the next 10 minutes or so, we'll process the applications in the order they appear on the wiki page. | 15:05 |
| persia | khanh_coltech, If not, we'll try to reschedule the next meeting to assure a sufficient number of people will be present, and review them then. | 15:06 |
| khanh_coltech | persia: thanks, i will wait :) | 15:06 |
| hito_jp | khanh_coltech: please fix your wikipages link, I think that it needs "s/k/K/'. | 15:07 |
| aamachu | persia: while we wait lets decide on concerns you had raised on your comments while editing the wiki page | 15:08 |
| khanh_coltech | hito_jp: ok, it fixed | 15:09 |
| aamachu | yes. I too agree 2 AM is difficult for Aussies | 15:09 |
| persia | I'm just not convinced we can reach quorum at 15:00, and think we oughtn't schedule any meetings then until we are assured of quorum, as it's unfair to those who attend. | 15:09 |
| aamachu | persia: yes. And it getting repeated for quite a number of time | 15:09 |
| aamachu | and themuso ? | 15:10 |
| persia | is in Australia | 15:10 |
| PmDematagoda | persia: has the meeting been held before? | 15:11 |
| Belutz | aamachu, actually, the previous time is fine with me, but sometimes works in the way | 15:11 |
| persia | PmDematagoda, Several times, but we have yet to reach quorum this evening. | 15:11 |
| PmDematagoda | persia: Ive been having trouble attending any meeting all this time, most of the time I was caught up in something, my apologies for that | 15:11 |
| aamachu | Belutz: you mean the 11.00 UTC or 9.00 UTC? | 15:11 |
| Belutz | too many different time zones for asia & oceania :D | 15:12 |
| Belutz | aamachu, both, but at both time i will be still at the office | 15:12 |
| persia | Belutz, Can you meet from the office? | 15:12 |
| aamachu | its office time here in India too.. | 15:12 |
| Belutz | persia, yes, if there's no meeting :) | 15:13 |
| aamachu | but I can manage | 15:13 |
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| persia | To avoid colliding with the CC, let's do 10:00 | 15:13 |
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| aamachu | persia: you mean to say consistently for all four weeks? | 15:13 |
| Belutz | and because sometimes i travel out of town, it's sometimes hard for me to get a connection | 15:14 |
| aamachu | on tuesdays? | 15:14 |
| persia | aamachu, Or even just every other week. We didn't do so well with every week, but I think we'd do better with every other week. | 15:14 |
| persia | I do like Tuesdays. | 15:14 |
| aamachu | persia: as long as we could meet it I am Ok. So the first and the third or the second and the fourth? | 15:15 |
| aamachu | Belutz: what do you say? | 15:15 |
| persia | second and fourth is better for me, but only marginally. | 15:16 |
| Belutz | aamachu, ok, let's try that | 15:16 |
| MaWaLe | so there will not be a meeting today? | 15:17 |
| Belutz | aamachu, could you please set up a google calendar, so I could subscribe to the meeting schedule and get sms notification for that? :D | 15:17 |
| persia | MaWaLe, We haven't reached quorum, and we're 15 minutes in, so likely no. | 15:17 |
| persia | aamachu, Just be sure to invite the fridge when you do :) | 15:17 |
| * MaWaLe is so sad | 15:18 | |
| aamachu | yes | 15:18 |
| aamachu | Belutz: and for you? | 15:18 |
| Belutz | yes, it's ok with me | 15:19 |
| MaWaLe | can i ask a question please | 15:19 |
| Belutz | i hope the candidate won't be to dissapointed :) | 15:19 |
| aamachu | persia: : I do update fridge these days | 15:19 |
| persia | MaWaLe, Go ahead. | 15:19 |
| aamachu | MaWaLe: has been waiting for so long :-) | 15:19 |
| MaWaLe | how do you (RBM) calculate the needed quorum? | 15:19 |
| persia | The RMB is 7 members, so it requires at least 4 to make a binding decision. | 15:20 |
| aamachu | MaWaLe: We are seven on the board - > 50% is four | 15:20 |
| MaWaLe | i think that waiting was a good experience for me to have more activities and knowing more people (like amachu and persia) | 15:20 |
| MaWaLe | but now it's taking to much to wait all this time | 15:20 |
| aamachu | MaWaLe: I suggest you also apply to other Boards | 15:21 |
| aamachu | yes I agree its taking long here | 15:21 |
| MaWaLe | amachu: but like mentioned on the edward's rule : for the next and the third time when there's no quorum for an official meeting, the quorum needed is no more 50% | 15:21 |
| aamachu | but without quorum we can't proceed. Hope you understand | 15:21 |
| MaWaLe | amachu: actually i didn't have an internet connection at home so i can't attend to toher RB | 15:22 |
| MaWaLe | this one fit perfectly with mu job time | 15:22 |
| MaWaLe | i understand perfectly | 15:22 |
| aamachu | MaWaLe: Thanks for that. | 15:23 |
| MaWaLe | thanks for all of you | 15:23 |
| MaWaLe | it was a pleasure and thank you for the reply amachu | 15:23 |
| aamachu | The fourth Tuesday comes next week, and I will schedule the meeting at 10.00 UTC | 15:25 |
| aamachu | will that be fine persia, Belutz? | 15:25 |
| persia | Good for me. Please also send out an announcement to our Australian colleagues, so that we have a good chance of quorum. | 15:25 |
| Belutz | fine with me | 15:25 |
| aamachu | persia: yes. | 15:25 |
| persia | Excellent then. Good night. | 15:26 |
| MaWaLe | good night | 15:26 |
| aamachu | fine. lets wind up for the day. | 15:26 |
| aamachu | persia: Belutz: look out for your nominations for Board Member | 15:26 |
| aamachu | :-) | 15:26 |
| aamachu | Thank you everyone for participating | 15:27 |
| Belutz | aamachu, thanks :) | 15:27 |
| MaWaLe | thanks | 15:27 |
| Belutz | persia, thanks :) | 15:27 |
| Belutz | for all candidates, thanks for your understanding :) | 15:27 |
| zaafouri | =) | 15:27 |
| MaWaLe | Belutz: I'm a regularI'm a regular now :p | 15:28 |
| Belutz | :D | 15:28 |
| MaWaLe | Belutz: can i speak to you in private please | 15:29 |
| Belutz | MaWaLe, feel free to pm me :) | 15:30 |
| MaWaLe | thx | 15:30 |
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| * manjo waves | 16:58 | |
| cooloney | cooloney, waves | 16:59 |
| * smb_tp waves back | 16:59 | |
| * amitk waves | 17:00 | |
| pgraner | Its about time for the Weekly Kernel Team IRC meeting | 17:00 |
| pgraner | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is pgraner. | 17:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 17:00 |
| * apw hovers at the edge of your vision | 17:00 | |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Open Items from last week | 17:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Open Items from last week | 17:01 |
| Riddell | ** Kubuntu meeting in #kubuntu-devel incase anyone is in here for it | 17:01 |
| pgraner | * sconklin, bring up archiving of Hardy/Intrepid OEM LPIA trees after the sprint | 17:01 |
| * smb_tp remembers he still has to add some calendar entries | 17:02 | |
| pgraner | * sconklin, coordinate testing by the OEM team for Hardy and Jaunty lpia | 17:02 |
| rtg | pgraner: sconklin is out today | 17:02 |
| pgraner | rtg: Understand, just for completeness. | 17:02 |
| pgraner | awe: the OEM team testing and news? | 17:03 |
| * pgraner look at awe | 17:03 | |
| awe | no news...working on testing this week | 17:03 |
| pgraner | awe: thanks can you send an email to kernel-team letting us know how it goes? | 17:03 |
| awe | i'm bringing the hpmini up to the latest abi / oem-kernel first | 17:04 |
| awe | will send an email when i've finished testing | 17:04 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] awe to report back to kernel-team on LPIA testing status | 17:04 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: awe to report back to kernel-team on LPIA testing status | 17:04 |
| pgraner | * ogasawara, handle another call for testing for A6 | 17:04 |
| cking | awe: so no pushing new commits then? | 17:04 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: sent email, although I'm concerned about the fact that Beta should have users testing via check box but that wasn't available for the A6 cft | 17:04 |
| apw | yes the upload i expected to occur tue last week did not occur | 17:04 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: yea, I found out about that yesterday, rtg is pushing the package, so we should send out a revised CFT | 17:05 |
| apw | seems it needed some FF exception and so it being requested now | 17:05 |
| rtg | rt will puch the package as soon as apw delivers it | 17:05 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: once the checkbox pkgs is uploaded | 17:05 |
| awe | cking: correct | 17:05 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: ok good. I'll send another pre-beta cft when it's ready. | 17:05 |
| pgraner | apw: can you let ogasawara know when to fire the CFT out since you working it behind the scenes? | 17:06 |
| apw | yep | 17:06 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] apw to inform ogasawara when revised CFT can go out | 17:06 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: apw to inform ogasawara when revised CFT can go out | 17:06 |
| pgraner | * apw and smb, look through the bugs ogasawara mentioned .... hows it going? | 17:06 |
| apw | ack | 17:06 |
| smb_tp | We have one which is a bit tricky (the crash) | 17:07 |
| smb_tp | One is fixed by now | 17:07 |
| smb_tp | And one could go to manjo (he just isn't aware of it yet) | 17:07 |
| manjo | smb_tp, send it my way | 17:08 |
| smb_tp | ack | 17:08 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: from my end they look to be getting the proper attention | 17:08 |
| smb_tp | manjo, Its another Dell server hardware issue on Hardy | 17:08 |
| manjo | ok | 17:08 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] smb to send manjo bug on Dell server hw issue on Hardy | 17:09 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: smb to send manjo bug on Dell server hw issue on Hardy | 17:09 |
| manjo | is that the hibernate problem ? | 17:09 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: thanks for the update | 17:09 |
| smb_tp | manjo, No some sort of sata3 disk | 17:09 |
| manjo | k | 17:09 |
| pgraner | * apw, confirm the ack requirements for jaunty... not sure what this one is about | 17:09 |
| apw | that one was done, in the last meeting and can be closed | 17:10 |
| pgraner | apw: nice | 17:10 |
| * pgraner likes closed actions | 17:10 | |
| apw | just confirming we need one ACK for commit to Jaunty currently | 17:10 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Hardy - Intrepid | 17:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Security & bugfix kernels - Hardy - Intrepid | 17:10 |
| * rtg has been slacking on that a bit | 17:10 | |
| smb_tp | Hardy: Upload planned for tomorrow including | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | • rt: Updated PREEMPT_RT support to rt27 | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | • fix apparmor memory leak on deleted file ops | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | • KVM: MMU: Add locking around kvm_mmu_slot_remove_write_access() | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | • serial: 8250: fix shared interrupts issues with SMP and RT kernels | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | • 8250.c: port.lock is irq-safe | 17:10 |
| smb_tp | • ACPI: Clear WAK_STS on resume | 17:11 |
| smb_tp | Intrepid: Upload has been done, linux-meta needs to get through | 17:11 |
| smb_tp | CVE updates are currently being triaged and processed | 17:11 |
| smb_tp | Thats basically it | 17:11 |
| * pgraner is impressed with smb_tp cut n paste ability :-) | 17:11 | |
| smb_tp | :-P | 17:11 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Jaunty Status | 17:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Jaunty Status | 17:11 |
| pgraner | rtg: how we a lookin'? | 17:11 |
| rtg | an ABI bumper is coming today. | 17:12 |
| rtg | it contains ATI r6/r7 bits | 17:12 |
| rtg | 2.6.28.8 | 17:12 |
| rtg | and some other stuff | 17:12 |
| rtg | oh, and built in EHCI/UHCI/OHCI | 17:12 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ha! | 17:12 |
| amitk | rtg: OHCI too? | 17:13 |
| rtg | I think its looking pretty good. no serious problems that I know of. | 17:13 |
| pgraner | rtg: any expected fall out from EHCI and friends? | 17:13 |
| rtg | actually, it ought to clear up some issues with USB transfer speeds. | 17:13 |
| IntuitiveNipple | As long as the link order is correct :) | 17:13 |
| rtg | essentially, its the same solution in the kernel that folks have employed in initramfs | 17:13 |
| IntuitiveNipple | That one will solve a lot of USB speed complaints | 17:14 |
| rtg | I think the biggest issues with Jaunty are ARM related at this point | 17:14 |
| * cking is encouraged by this | 17:14 | |
| amitk | how widely is OHCI used? | 17:14 |
| pgraner | rtg: will hit arm in a few min | 17:14 |
| rtg | AA and aufs do play well together | 17:14 |
| rtg | don't | 17:15 |
| rtg | ok, full stop | 17:15 |
| pgraner | Jaunty Alpha 6 ... ogasawara how does it look from your standpoint? | 17:15 |
| pgraner | will come back to that... | 17:16 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: looking good here, but seem to be getting more suspend resume bugs | 17:16 |
| pgraner | ah | 17:16 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: what type? hangs? | 17:16 |
| apw | i get the feeling suspend/resume has not been that great ever and we are now | 17:17 |
| apw | seeing the badness via the incoming bug stream as people switch over | 17:17 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: the ususal, failure to resume. and I think the increased bug reporting is because of the apport hooks | 17:17 |
| apw | to jaunty. | 17:17 |
| IntuitiveNipple | From my experience the suspend/resume code in many drivers was an after-thought to catch up with the API | 17:18 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: any way to tell if they are false positive? For example I have shut the lid (with it set to suspend) and then opened it immediately and I get the apport notification... anything like that? | 17:18 |
| rtg | IntuitiveNipple: I think most drivers have caught up wrt to suspend. | 17:18 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: I do see what seem to be false positives coming in too. I've tried to tag them "false-report" so we can investigate. | 17:18 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: great... | 17:19 |
| apw | ogasawara, yeah i have a couple of thoughts on that one | 17:19 |
| IntuitiveNipple | We have a few false positives based on the TEST_SUSPEND_SECONDS = 5 and I'm investigating what would be a sesnsible higher value to set that based on a collection of kern.log reports ogasawara collected from launchpad | 17:19 |
| apw | if they are false we can start dup'ing them onto matt's original false one | 17:19 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It looks like increasing it to 9 or 10 would solve alot of those false positives | 17:19 |
| ogasawara | apw: sounds good | 17:20 |
| pgraner | Well that lead us into the Suspend/Resume topic... which we just covered | 17:20 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] ARM | 17:20 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ARM | 17:20 |
| pgraner | amitk: what say you? | 17:21 |
| amitk | as rtg mentioned aufs and apparmor don't like each other | 17:21 |
| bradF | the AA and aufs issue that rtg was referring to ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/344370 | 17:21 |
| amitk | or rather AA doesn't like imx51 | 17:21 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/344370/+text) | 17:21 |
| amitk | bradF is looking at the problem | 17:22 |
| pgraner | amitk: ok, any other show stoppers out there for ARM? | 17:22 |
| rtg | I'm concerned that the problem is something systemic. | 17:22 |
| amitk | I am working on finalising the imx51 configs for mobile team | 17:22 |
| pgraner | amitk: thanks | 17:23 |
| amitk | pgraner: we have dying ttys on the babbage boards. That seems to be the major showstopper right now | 17:23 |
| pgraner | amitk: I guess that keeps the end user experience short huh? | 17:23 |
| apw | physical or virtual dying? | 17:23 |
| pgraner | amitk: any theories on why/how etc...? | 17:24 |
| amitk | pgraner: yeah, a bit | 17:24 |
| amitk | compiling in AA causes problems, w/o it things are somewhat better | 17:24 |
| cking | just somewhat? | 17:24 |
| pgraner | amitk: have we reached out to upstream to see what they think? | 17:25 |
| amitk | cking: we don't know the next problem we'll encounter after that :) | 17:25 |
| amitk | pgraner: I've talked to John Johansen | 17:25 |
| rtg | pgraner: or the Freescale dudes? | 17:25 |
| amitk | he seemed to think it shouldn't happen | 17:25 |
| pgraner | amitk: let me know if you need to talk to Freescale and I'll get some one on the line for you. | 17:26 |
| amitk | honestly, given our time constraints, we don't have the experience to track down the AA issue | 17:26 |
| rtg | John's explanation made it sound like it could be a fundamental problem. | 17:26 |
| amitk | so I am trying to bypass it for now | 17:26 |
| amitk | pgraner: thanks | 17:26 |
| pgraner | amitk: ok, sounds like a solid plan forward for now | 17:27 |
| pgraner | Since sconklin is not here we'll skip the lpia for this week, if there are no objections.... | 17:27 |
| * rtg has no objections | 17:28 | |
| cking | nope | 17:28 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Incoming Bugs | 17:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Incoming Bugs | 17:28 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: your time to shine :-) | 17:28 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: I only have 2 to bring up and both seem to be getting looked at | 17:28 |
| ogasawara | bug 343556 - regression-potential but apw looks to be investigating | 17:28 |
| ogasawara | bug 212485 - hardy SRU that smb_tp looks to already be taking care of | 17:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 343556 in linux "MacBook rev3: Wireless works in 8.10 but not in Jaunty" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343556 | 17:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 212485 in linux "kernel bug rpc nfs client" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212485 | 17:28 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: thanks... looks in order | 17:29 |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Open Discussion | 17:29 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Open Discussion | 17:29 |
| pgraner | Floor is open... | 17:29 |
| manjo | is ext4 going to be a default in jaunty ? | 17:30 |
| pgraner | manjo: no | 17:30 |
| pgraner | manjo: purely optional | 17:30 |
| manjo | current option is the chose manual partition to get ext4... | 17:30 |
| pgraner | manjo: as planned | 17:30 |
| manjo | k | 17:30 |
| pgraner | Any idea when we will see 2.6.29 go final? | 17:30 |
| rtg | we're seeing some complaints about ext4 | 17:31 |
| cking | just some? | 17:31 |
| rtg | 175 on one report at last count :) | 17:31 |
| cooloney | rtg, right, ext4 lost data ? | 17:31 |
| manjo | in my testing ext4 has major issues | 17:31 |
| amitk | pgraner: its already -rc8, so soon | 17:31 |
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| rtg | the next upload has some patches that change some behaviors to be closer to ext3 | 17:31 |
| apw | rtg is that the patch kit to expedite the open modify rename stuff | 17:32 |
| rtg | I did so at apw's suggestion | 17:32 |
| rtg | ^^ | 17:32 |
| cking | kde users will be happy | 17:32 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: should we highlight the new ext4 patches and ask for some out of band testing for the willing? | 17:32 |
| rtg | the truncated files will be happier too :) | 17:32 |
| Riddell | we will? | 17:33 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: sure, wouldn't hurt. | 17:33 |
| pgraner | ogasawara: can you arrange? | 17:33 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: yup | 17:33 |
| pgraner | [ACTION] ogasawara to issue CFT around ext4 data loss patches | 17:33 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ogasawara to issue CFT around ext4 data loss patches | 17:33 |
| cjwatson | manjo: (also you can boot with partman/default_filesystem=ext4 on the kernel command line, if that makes things more convenient for you while testing) | 17:34 |
| pgraner | Riddell: yea, ext4 eats kde dot files and leave them zero length | 17:34 |
| cooloney | pgraner, sorry, CFT = ? | 17:34 |
| rtg | call for testing | 17:34 |
| Tonio_ | hi (sorry was locked in a meeting here...) | 17:34 |
| cooloney | OK | 17:34 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: kubuntu meeting in #k-d | 17:34 |
| manjo | cjwatson, thanks that works lot better | 17:34 |
| pgraner | Anyone have other items... going once... twice | 17:35 |
| * rtg flees to another meeting | 17:35 | |
| pgraner | [TOPIC] Next Meeting | 17:35 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Next Meeting | 17:35 |
| pgraner | Same time and channel | 17:35 |
| apw | ack | 17:35 |
| smb_tp | ack | 17:35 |
| cking | ..different reality | 17:35 |
| cking | ack | 17:35 |
| lieb_ | ack | 17:36 |
| cooloney | ok | 17:36 |
| manjo | k | 17:36 |
| pgraner | Thanks everyone! Appreciate it! | 17:36 |
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| amitk | thanks | 17:36 |
| pgraner | #endmeeting | 17:36 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 12:36. | 17:36 |
| cooloney | thanks | 17:36 |
| * smb_tp shuffles away | 17:36 | |
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| juliux | @schedule berlin | 22:29 |
| nhandler | juliux: FYI, ubottu no longer manages the schedule. Look at the gcal | 23:02 |
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| Laney | nhandler: Have you time for a couple of FFes? | 23:59 |
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