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brycecrdlb: I'm not at liberty to discuss that00:00
crdlbproprietary drivers suck so much ...00:01
bryceagreed wholeheartedly00:01
crdlbso I guess nvidia is going to drop 6 and 7 support soon :)00:02
brycereally?  I hadn't heard anything about that00:02
crdlbno, I just mean they can follow ATI's lead now00:04
bryceah, well -nvidia of course has the legacy driver situation going on00:07
brycethankfully they've been providing updated builds of those00:07
tormodif it means they will concentrate (as in reassign) efforts on the open-source drivers, let fglrx slowly die00:07
brycesweetness, -fglrx on hd4850 is good to go too00:08
bryce(previous test was on hd2600)00:08
brycemm, fast too00:09
tormodbryce re hd2600, do you get issues like in bug 33964700:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 339647 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[M76] Screen tearing when playing back video on HD2600" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33964700:10
bryceheh, wish you'd asked like 15 min ago00:10
bryceI can give it a try later though00:11
tormodyou're sitting with the card in your hand now :)00:12
bryceyeah I pulled it out to put the 4850 in; so am going to test that one a bit first00:14
brycesad; 6.12.0 no workie on the hd4850 (white screen)00:23
tormodbryce: and that's not the white screen of compiz?00:26
bryce# ls -l /usr/bin/compiz00:30
bryce-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12206 Mar 16 07:37 /usr/bin/compiz00:30
brycealso tried disabling dri, dri2, and glx, no change00:31
brycealso it's occurring before the gdm screen; usually the compiz whitescreen happens after login, right?00:32
crdlbalways :)00:33
crdlbwell, unless you have a gdm that uses compiz00:34
brycestartx fails too00:34
bryceXAA and EXA both failing same way00:36
brycehmm, do we know any other tricks?00:36
tormodnothing in the logs?00:37
brycehttp://bryceharrington.org/files/Xorg.0.log00:40
jcristautried noaccel?00:40
tormodthere is no XAA support for r6/7xx but I guess your option is just ignored00:42
brycejcristau: good point00:42
brycehmm, noaccel -> black screen instead00:44
brycehmm, well maybe it's just dependent on the kernel stuff00:45
brycespeaking of which... alex just sent in the kernel patch to tim00:45
bryceheh, avivotool crashes the box00:53
bryceer, locks it up anyway00:53
bryceinteresting; the reporters on bug 325394 found it fixed with the git snapshot01:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 325394 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[RV770 HD 4850] ATI Radeon HD 4850 not supported - white screen and system freeze" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32539401:43
brycedown to 13 bugs against xorg07:46
tjaaltonwhoa, less than 1700 bugs08:30
tjaaltonbtw, a fresh install doesn't seem to run dexconf at all, resulting in an empty xorg.conf08:32
bryceis that intentional?08:33
tjaaltondon't think so08:33
tjaaltonhaving no xorg.conf would be better08:33
brycebtw, I also noticed xserver-xorg-video-vesa doesn't seem to be installed by default (at least, it was missing on my test box after intrepid->hardy upgrade)08:33
tjaaltonwhich means that -video-all was removed too?08:35
bryceyeah08:35
bryce# apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-all08:35
brycexserver-xorg-video-all:08:35
bryce  Installed: (none)08:35
bryce  Candidate: 1:7.4~5ubuntu1508:35
bryce  Version table:08:35
bryce     1:7.4~5ubuntu15 008:35
bryce        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages08:35
tjaaltonthey seem to be installed on our fresh installations08:36
brycehmm08:39
tjaaltonso maybe a driver wasn't rebuilt when you did the upgrade?08:39
tjaaltonunless it was recently08:40
brycethe upgrade was today08:41
bryce(for testing -ati 6.12.0 and the new -fglrx)08:41
tjaaltonok, the logs might have something08:41
brycemaybe.  It's also my pretty heavily pummeled test box, so I don't trust bugs I see on it as representing ordinary users ;-)08:43
brycealthough I would have thought the upgrade would pull that stuff in...08:44
tjaaltoneven --fix-policy doesn't seem to install -video-all08:44
brycelp's funky for me; pops open the edit title widgets even when I don't want to edit them08:52
brycetjaalton: 34080709:18
brycedown to 10 xorg bugs, and soon will be down to 6!09:19
brycetjaalton: bug #134401 you might know how to triage better than I09:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 134401 in xorg "[needs-packaging] add support for fujitsu tablet input device" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13440109:20
tjaaltonbryce: yeah, that looks good now09:20
brycemaybe it belongs somewhere other than xorg09:20
tjaaltontest it locally first :)09:20
bryceyeah, tomorrow maybe09:20
tjaaltonuh, yet-another touchscreen driver09:21
tjaaltonlooks like it's a modified evtouch09:23
brycemaybe ought to recommend merging into that upstream, and wontfix in ubuntu?09:23
tjaaltonyes09:23
brycebug #250372 can probably be closed now, sounds like the issue is no longer present for the user.  You should check that one though.09:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250372 in xorg "Do not add /usr/bin/X11 to path, causes problems with relative symlinked binaries" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25037209:24
bryceright, bedtime for me.  cya tomorrow.09:25
tjaaltonnight09:25
tjaaltonbryce: looks like he modified the PATH locally, which fixed it. I'm not sure if the symlink is still needed or not09:29
seb128somebody talked to me about a bug before?14:03
seb128tjaalton: was that you?14:03
tjaaltonseb128: yes, I forwarded it upstream14:08
tjaaltonabout nautilus14:08
seb128tjaalton: no clue about it I've no nfs, but does it crash?14:09
seb128you can run "gnome-desktop-item-edit .desktop" on the command line14:09
seb128hum, the issue is with the nautilus properties?14:09
seb128I've no launcher tab there14:09
tjaaltonlet me check14:09
tjaaltonnot quite the same, that one works :)14:10
seb128do you get any error when the nautilus dialog close?14:10
tjaaltonno, it just closes14:10
tjaaltonnothing in .xsession-errors14:10
seb128really weird14:11
seb128not crashing?14:11
tjaaltonnautilus is still running14:11
tjaaltonit doesn't crash14:11
tjaaltonand at least the jaunty version doesn't have a launcher tab (anymore?)14:11
tjaaltonhmm, gotta run for now14:12
tjaaltonI can debug it more tomorrow14:12
seb128ok14:12
seb128I doubt upstream will reply14:12
seb128they mostly don't read bugzilla and I'm not sure they use nfs14:12
tjaaltonyeah, bugtrackers are such a pain :)14:13
tjaaltonbut ->14:13
marijus1i got kms to work now. but compiz doesnt work. metacity is fine except for video playback. do i have to take care of something special for compiz to work?17:28
bryceheh, 313027 has turned into a FOSS-vs-proprietary discussion forum already17:30
marijus1hm?17:34
brycetjaalton: for -intel I think I'm going to try a kludge to get around the kernel dependency so we can get 2.6.3 in.  I'm guessing we probably can't hope for a kernel update for -intel at this stage.18:31
bryceassuming that works, then we need a quick decision on EXA vs. UXA for -intel for beta.18:32
bryceok, it builds19:56
bryceand boots21:09
brycefroze up on gdm shutdown though (wtf?)21:09
brycenot a freeze; actually just the wireless connection dropped when I closed gdm21:22
tjaaltonbryce: so you included the header with the driver?21:33
brycetjaalton: not even that; I just s/I915_SETPARAM_NUM_USED_FENCES/4/21:36
tjaaltonheh21:37
brycealright, seems stable enough.  I'm uploading.21:39
tjaaltonnice, something to upgrade tomorrow :)21:41
bryceok, -fglrx next22:26
brycesuperm1: (unless you would prefer handling it...)22:35
brycesuperm1: hrm, looks like they did not list EPR#'s fixed, so our work flagging bugs seems to have been entirely for naught22:52
brycepackaging done, builds/installs ok, time to test23:35
RAOFI suppose it'll soon be time to ask for some nouveau FFe's.23:41
bryceok looks good; uploading23:49

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