[00:00] <vjacob2> sebsebseb, it is set to theres, however I will change my home permissions then
[00:00] <vjacob2> thanks jrib1
[00:00] <sebsebseb> vjacob2: yeah  maybe they are in the same group as you for accessing your home
[00:00] <pieman22> can anyone tell me how to set up a timed kill command?
[00:00] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip:
[00:00] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m4b403533
[00:01] <vjacob2> sebsebseb: I made them using the user control panel in GNOME and they got a seperate group AFAICS
[00:01] <Time`s_Witness> is there any irc client for linux that allows scripting, about as freely as mIRC ? preferentially same language, or not too different xD
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: ok now run: dmesg | tail
[00:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Time`s_Witness, IRSSI all the way :)
[00:01] <bigrigger> pieman22: use crontab
[00:01] <heldburgen> quibbler: did that then rebooted normally and it looks like x keeps trying to start up (the screen goes blank) but keeps going back to command line
[00:02] <pieman22> cheers, bigrigger
[00:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip:
[00:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m1a7bed13
[00:02] <Time`s_Witness> Paddy_EIRE same language of mIRC? :P
[00:02] <jacob5> Hello, whenever I try to install stuff or update things, I get this error: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[00:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Time`s_Witness, I dont use mirc
[00:02] <heldburgen> the last operation on the command line is "checking battery state [OK]". no errors shown
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: ok now see what error 4 is
[00:02] <quibbler> heldburgen: do crtl alt backspace
[00:02] <bigrigger> heldburgen: read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:02] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: im not sure i follow you...
[00:02] <Time`s_Witness> going to check it. thanks Paddy_EIRE :)
[00:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: you mean the 4th line of error?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: no, read the dmesg output, at the end of the apt lines it says error 4
[00:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: ok
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: find out what that means
[00:04] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: so how to i find out what error 4 is?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: websearches
[00:05] <lenswipe> oh, ok
[00:05] <lenswipe> thanks
[00:06] <vjacob2> sebsebseb: I entered into the group user options panel and saw no checkmarks next to the relevant username for each user's group. Now after I enabled one relevant user per group, it still doesn't work
[00:06] <alecwh_d> hello, my computer has two dvd drives (one writes, the other just plays), and the second one (cdrom1) doesn't seem to be working, and cdrom0 does. I'm certain they are both functioning and everything, it's just that the CD isn't mounting when I insert it into cdrom1. Can someone help me fix this?
[00:06] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=apt-get+error+code+4&btnG=Search&meta=
[00:06] <ScottG489> What is .profile in ubuntu and what does it do? I was taught that .profile executes on login but it doesnt for ubuntu
[00:06] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: am i googling the right thing here?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: looks fine
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if google turns up blank, try www.ask.com or www.msn.com
[00:07] <jacob5> Whenever I run dpkg or anything that uses it, I get this: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[00:07] <vjacob2> jrib1, thanks, although I still don't know what to do with the permissions without messing up everything permissions wise. Is it just to change the permission on the home directory it self (non-recursively) or is it changing my user's permissions?
[00:07] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: will do thanks
[00:07] <bigrigger> ScottG489: it tells  the machine to read ~/.bashrc among other things
[00:07] <heldburgen> bigrigger: no obvious errors. the video card happens to be a radeon in a random cheapie toshiba laptop, which might be it. last line contains "closed DRM master". there's also "leaving restore TV" just above that
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: ive not had the error before, a reboot may sort it (if a reboot is possible)
[00:08] <weatherkid> can someone please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:08] <jrib1> weatherkid: is your '!' key stuck?
[00:09] <Sergeant_Pony> lol
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> weatherkid: wassup
[00:09] <ScottG489> bigrigger: Yea when does it tell the machine that? Because it doesnt run on login or any time. I tried putting some aliases in there but they dont run
[00:10] <weatherkid> ActionParsnip: I need chance and kathy to have r/w permissions in a floder that im sharing with samba http://paste.ubuntu.com/132235/
[00:10] <weatherkid> folder
[00:10] <bigrigger> ScottG489: put aliases in /home/$USER/.bashrc
[00:10] <Time`s_Witness> i downloaded IRSSI, and tried instructions to install it (./configure , make) and.. it won't "make".
[00:10] <Time`s_Witness> what can i do in that case?
[00:10] <Time`s_Witness> xD
[00:11] <jrib1> Time`s_Witness: irssi is in the repositories.  Use APT
[00:11] <ScottG489> bigrigger: And anything else that I want to run on login?
[00:11] <Time`s_Witness> i used :s
[00:11] <jrib1> Time`s_Witness: you used ":s"?  What is ":s"?
[00:11] <mrwes> ScottG489, or you can make an .bash_alias file and call to that from your .bashrc file
[00:11] <bigrigger> heldburgen: you might try modprobe radeon or lsmod |grep radeon, i think its a video probem
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> weatherkid: then add writable = yes
[00:11] <Time`s_Witness> lol. a smile. xD I used apt-get install IRSSI
[00:11] <jacob5> can anyone here please help me with this: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[00:11] <jrib1> Time`s_Witness: and what was the output?
[00:11] <Trixar_za> It's a worried expression @ jrib1
[00:11] <louiscvh> Hey i have problems with mysql the error is this: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[00:11] <louiscvh>  , im restarted the password like 10000 times.
[00:12] <Time`s_Witness> jrib1 couldn't find package
[00:12] <ScottG489> mrwes: How would I call another script from bashrc? just like "./.aliases" ?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> weatherkid: if you use sudo smbpasswd -a chance
[00:12] <Time`s_Witness> is it case sensitive?
[00:12] <mrwes> ScottG489, put startup stuff in sessions
[00:12] <mrwes> ScottG489, hold
[00:13] <jrib1> Time`s_Witness: try and see
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> weatherkid: and make the smbpasswd identical to its login password, and then do the same for kathy then they will have to authenticate to get access and writability
[00:13] <gueux> hi
[00:13] <heldburgen> bigrigger: modprobe radeon returns nothing. lsmod | grep radeon returns 2 lines... radeon and drm
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> !hi | gueux
[00:13] <gueux> is there a way to define another shift+insert? (I'd like to have a shortcut with only one key)
[00:13] <Time`s_Witness> jrib1, how about the "configure" command. did it put thrash in the system windows alike or just in the folder where some other stuff got extracted?
[00:13] <ScottG489> mrwes: I kinda feel like I should leave sessions to larger programs and graphical things not things I want for my terminal shell
[00:13] <gueux> ubottu: thanks :-)
[00:13] <mrwes> ScottG489, uncomment the the alias definition part in your .bashrc file
[00:14] <jrib1> Time`s_Witness: just the folder
[00:14] <Time`s_Witness> great =)
[00:14] <Time`s_Witness> thanks!
[00:14] <mrwes> ScottG489, ah...yah
[00:14] <bigrigger> heldburgen: then you are using the radeon driver
[00:14] <Time`s_Witness> yea, apt-get is case sensitive. <.<
[00:14] <bigrigger> heldburgen: can you start an x session on boot yet
[00:15] <louiscvh> Hey i have problems with mysql the error is this: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[00:15] <weatherkid> ActionParsnip: There is no writable option in SWAT
[00:15] <TheMusicGuy> Help! Update Managers is giving errors: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/108256/
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> weatherkid: just add the line to the text file
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> weatherkid: no need for swat of anything like that
[00:16] <vjacob2> jrib1, to avoid others being able to read my home dir, could I just make the directory "/home/userfolder" 750 ?
[00:16] <Time`s_Witness> doesnt irssi have graphic mode ? just terminal? :P
[00:16] <weatherkid> TheMusicGuy: try sudo apt-get update
[00:16] <vjacob2> Time`s_Witness, the gnome version does
[00:16] <heldburgen> bigrigger: lspci tells me i have an ati radeon xpress 200m.  from a default boot x keeps trying to start over and over but not working, it looks like (keeps blanking the screen then dropping back to the command line)
[00:16] <jacob5> can anyone here pretty please help me with this error?  dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[00:16] <vjacob2> jacob5, did you google that?
[00:17] <Frijolie> can't believe that changing a volume label is so difficult!
[00:17] <Time`s_Witness> how can i access it vjacob2 please ? i mean, nothing appeared under applications menu..that i can see. i'm using ubuntu
[00:17] <tonsofpcs> in vi, just :s/regexp/replacement/ and it replaced one, how do i replace all matches?
[00:17] <jacob5> yes, I have tried many things and haven't fixed it.  its been like this a little after I upgrade to 8.10
[00:17] <vjacob2> Time`s_Witness, try the package manager under settings
[00:17] <rong_> hello all
[00:17] <rong_> could someone tell me the default ubuntu font?
[00:17] <Frijolie> hi! | rong_
[00:17] <Frijolie> !hi | rong_
[00:17] <TheMusicGuy> weatherkid: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/108258/
[00:17] <rong_> trying to stored the default font
[00:18] <bin1010> i need someones help with the nvidia drivers...I have ubuntu 8.10 64bit on a DELL laptop.  I have the drivers working, but if I move the computer from docking station to docking station (ie. home and work), it always starts with the external monitor turned off.  When I had the vesa driver, it at least tried to find the best resolution for the current monitor...is there a way to fix this behaviour?
[00:18] <TheMusicGuy> weatherkid: but update manager says there's still updates
[00:18] <vjacob2> Time`s_Witness, it may be called synoptics package manager, and it will allow you to install it if you search for irssi. I'd just install xchat if I were you however
[00:18] <bigrigger> heldburgen: are you running intrepid? you could run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal.
[00:18] <Laurenceb> if I print to dpf with evince, where does the pdf pop out?
[00:18] <rong_> restored I ment
[00:18] <humbolt> I have deleted the "tracker" entry in the startup applications manager. Can somebody paste me the command line
[00:18] <LjL> cwillu: what programming language would you recommend me for a fortune cookies application?
[00:18] <Time`s_Witness> i have vjacob2 there already, i already installed irssi. im asking if irssi itself is just terminal mode, or graphic environment available, not installation :)
[00:18] <mac2612> Hi guys....anybody here any good with fixing suspend problems?
[00:18] <cwillu> LjL, this is a trick question, I just know it
[00:18] <Time`s_Witness> *i have xchat there already
[00:18] <bigrigger> Time`s_Witness: irssi is terminal only
[00:19] <rong_> so anyone know the default font?
[00:19] <Frijolie> LjL, isn't it just flour, a little sugar, and water?
[00:19] <LjL> cwillu: *shrug*
[00:19]  * cwillu suggests python
[00:19] <weatherkid> TheMusicGuy: what that does is update apt so you won't (hopefully) won't get that error
[00:19] <Time`s_Witness> ok! :) This can be fun then ! :D heh. thank you :)
[00:19] <Laurenceb> if I print to dpf with evince, where does the pdf pop out?
[00:19]  * cwillu pokes LjL with a python
[00:19] <weatherkid> now update
[00:19] <bigrigger> Time`s_Witness: irssi.org
[00:19] <Frijolie> cwillu, keep it clean please!
[00:20] <heldburgen> how can i drop to command line if i'm inside the startup process or its trying to startup x?
[00:20] <TheMusicGuy> weatherkid: update manager says there's several YEARS of downloading to do...then it fails.
[00:20] <cwillu> Frijolie, there's history here :p
[00:20] <Frijolie> cwillu, ah, I see
[00:20] <bigrigger> heldburgen: recovery mode boot or root shell
[00:20] <weatherkid> thats all i got up my sleave. sorry
[00:21] <TheMusicGuy> oh poo.
[00:21] <TheMusicGuy> thanks anyway.
[00:21] <TheMusicGuy> anyone else?
[00:21]  * weatherkid whacks myself for no reason
[00:21] <Time`s_Witness> what kind of scripts does irssi run? *.sh? others proper from it? what else?
[00:22] <Issa> Hi, where can I find the configurations of the network manager that I set with wired, wireless and dsl connections that I have?
[00:22] <exodus_ms> !info irssi
[00:22] <heldburgen> bigrigger: i'm in dpkg-reconfigure now
[00:22] <exodus_ms> or man irssi
[00:22] <bigrigger> Time`s_Witness: http://irssi.org/
[00:22] <Time`s_Witness> :X k :)
[00:23] <Laurenceb> if I print to dpf with evince, where does the pdf pop out?
[00:23] <dan> Anyone have a logitech usb headset? Im going insane here
[00:24] <dan> I just want to use alsa with it
[00:24] <tonsofpcs> got it
[00:24] <dan> I get the error audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 !. . . when I test sound in sound preferences
[00:24] <heldburgen> bigrigger: its ubuntu 8.10
[00:25] <Lord-Jynx> does the grub option vga=xxx only affect the console?  I don't want it to affect X
[00:25] <Trixar_za> Hey, is there like any way to fix this issue I'm having with my bluetooth that would work? I looked on launchpad and tried several solutions, but it can detect my bluetooth device, and hcitool scan DUN picks up my mobile, but I can't pair or connect to it. I even tried installing Blueman with no success. Any ideas?
[00:25] <tonsofpcs> now, anyone know a way to go through a file and leave lines that appear twice [or more] but remove the rest?
[00:25] <bigrigger> heldburgen: hal does most of the work in 8.10 but xserver-xorg might help
[00:26] <dan> Anyone have a logitech usb headset? Im going insane here
[00:26] <Akkernight> What SVN client do you recommend? Something like tortoiseSVN, I know Bazaar, but it's a real headache when you don't use launchpad as your SVN server
[00:26] <heldburgen> which settings should i go for in dpkg-reconfigure?
[00:26] <Time`s_Witness> what are meta-keys? O.o
[00:26] <IntuitiveNipple> tonsofpcs: Are the lines contiguous or randomly separated?
[00:27] <bigrigger> heldburgen: I don't think it gives you options anymore
[00:27] <Frijolie> does LAMP stand for Linux Apache MySQL and Python?
[00:28] <Laurenceb> if I print to dpf with evince, where does the pdf pop out?
[00:28] <bigrigger> Frijolie: yes
[00:28] <weatherkid> what is the cmd to restart samba?
[00:28] <heldburgen> bigrigger: its asking me if i want to use kernel framebugger device interface. also, does it make sense that from recovery console i could start x just fine (albeit, without the keyboard or mouse working) but not in regular boot?
[00:28] <Issa> Frijolie: OGO
[00:28] <Issa> Frijolie: oops sorry, PHP
[00:28] <Issa> Hi, where can I find the configurations of the network manager that I set with wired, wireless and dsl connections that I have?
[00:28] <cwillu> Frijolie, dunno, ask LjL
[00:28] <Frijolie> huh?
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !lamp | Frijolie
[00:29] <dan> Anyone have a logitech usb headset? Im going insane here
[00:29] <Frijolie> I've heard that PHP was inferior to Python
[00:29] <tonsofpcs> IntuitiveNipple: random
[00:29] <sebsebseb> Frijolie: ha ha,  hardly anyone programs  back ends of sites in Python
[00:29] <Frijolie> Python is more of a JIT compiler, right? more flexibility easier code base
[00:29] <bigrigger> heldburgen: I would say no frame buffer normally. xorg.conf sets the keyboard etc using HAL
[00:30] <cwillu> not really
[00:30] <Issa> sebastien: Frijolie: Djungo would be a great framework for web
[00:30] <cwillu> it's a cleaner language, and there is jit work being done in it though
[00:30] <sebsebseb> Frijolie: Python is a good first programming language
[00:30] <Frijolie> sebsebseb, then move on to, C#?
[00:30] <Akkernight> could anyone recommend a SVN client?
[00:30] <hobo> Anyone know how to get an internet broadband card working?
[00:30] <jrib1> Akkernight: subversion?
[00:30] <bigrigger> heldburgen: i don't know why thats happening but its probably something simple, brb
[00:30] <jeeves> what is the MOST agressive OS fingerprinting and vanerability scanner out there?
[00:30] <sebsebseb> Frijolie: I don't program anything yet, but know stuff,  and  have attempted learning Python and PHP before
[00:30] <cwillu> and there's tonnes of websites written in python (and ruby, and perl, two other languages at around the same level of sophistication, although they both go in slightly different directions)
[00:30] <Akkernight> Yes, something that works like tortoiseSVN
[00:31] <jrib1> Akkernight: meh, I meant subversion itself in a shell.  There's rapidsvn.  Do « apt-cache search subversion »
[00:31] <Fougner> Akkernight, rapidSVN =)
[00:31] <IntuitiveNipple> tonsofpcs: awk '{if ($0 in lines) x=1; else print; lines[$0]=1}' in.file >out.file
[00:32] <heldburgen> bigrigger: same results from startx after dpkg-reconfigure in both recovery and default boot
[00:32] <Akkernight> I've tried rapidSVN, you can't rightclick and then choose checkout with it
[00:32] <Laurenceb> if I print to dpf with evince, where does the pdf pop out?
[00:32] <jrib1> Akkernight: there are also a collection of nautilus scripts for svn in the repositories
[00:33] <Time`s_Witness> considering that i accidentaly removed "applications", "system", menu at the panel, how do i set them back ? xD
[00:33] <tonsofpcs> not working, IntuitiveNipple
[00:33] <jrib1> Time`s_Witness: right click on the panel, add to panel
[00:33] <planetheroes> very quick and easy question: how do i stop iptables
[00:33] <jrib1> planetheroes: why do you want to...?
[00:33] <glenrock> planetheroes: sudo /etc/init.d/iptables stop
[00:33] <planetheroes> cause i'm having a problem with a program
[00:34] <Time`s_Witness> thanks jrib1
[00:34] <planetheroes> not operating correctly
[00:34] <planetheroes> program is rtorrent 0.8.4
[00:34] <jrib1> planetheroes: uh huh... Well « sudo iptables -L » will show you the rules you have set.  Do you have any set?
[00:34] <Fougner> planetheroes, define "not operating correctly"
[00:34] <planetheroes> doesn't connect to any trackers
[00:35] <Fougner> and you're sure it's another program ?
[00:35] <XPS_M1330> so gnome uses only GTK and KDE uses QT?
[00:35] <glenrock> XPS_M1330: that's basically true, however you can run kde apps under gnome and vice versa
[00:35] <planetheroes> sorry was that directed at me Fougner?
[00:35] <dr_willis> I mixx and match kde + gnome apps all the time.
[00:35] <Fougner> planetheroes, yup
[00:36] <planetheroes> the program i was referring to was rtorrent. it can start, torrents can load
[00:36] <planetheroes> but it tries to connect to the tracker and times out
[00:36] <Fougner> planetheroes, I assume your .rtorrent.rc is configured correctly =)
[00:36] <planetheroes> yeah
[00:36] <planetheroes> it's a good .rtorrent.rc - one i've used on other distros
[00:36] <jrib1> !enter | planetheroes
[00:36] <planetheroes> sorry
[00:37] <jrib1> planetheroes: did you see any iptables rules listed with the command I gave you?
[00:37] <IntuitiveNipple> tonsofpcs: try this streamlined version awk '{if (!( $0 in lines)) print $0; lines[$0]=1;}' in.file >out.file
[00:37] <Fougner> planetheroes, how many times has rtorrent tried to reconncet?
[00:37] <planetheroes> oh, sorry. yes i did. The port i have rtorrent listening on is 63035. my iptables -L shows:
[00:37] <planetheroes> ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:63035
[00:37] <planetheroes> it just keeps trying and trying.
[00:38] <Fougner> what tracker? =)
[00:38] <Fougner> tried others?
[00:38] <tonsofpcs> IntuitiveNipple: sort | uniq -d works
[00:38] <jrib1> planetheroes: iptables -F  will flush the rules.  You can see if that affects it
[00:38] <IntuitiveNipple> tonsofpcs: Yes, but that is because sort puts all similar lines together first. I asked you at the beginning about contiguous or random lines and as a result thought you wanted to maintain the lines in order
[00:39] <Fougner> planetheroes, I'd like to see your config, can you pastebin it?
[00:39] <hobo> Anyone know how to get a broadband card working?
[00:39] <planetheroes> I have tried several trackers. and jrib1: i just tried that, same thing. Fougner will do right away.
[00:39] <jrib1> planetheroes: not iptables then
[00:40] <planetheroes> Fougner: http://pastebin.com/d7370a13e
[00:40] <riplay> hi
[00:40] <tonsofpcs> IntuitiveNipple: right, but cp file temp && sort temp | uniq -d is still easier than awk for a text file
[00:40] <riplay> help please
[00:41] <Fougner> planetheroes, why sessions in root? what user to run rtorrent?
[00:41] <tonsofpcs> also, sort | uniq doesn't modify the input file
[00:41] <planetheroes> haha yeah i know i was running in root for the time
[00:41] <scott_> hi my sudo isn't working and i dont know the root password, how do i make sudo work
[00:41] <riplay> i need to restore source.list file because y deleted it by error, my version its ubuntu 8.1 64 bits
[00:41] <Fougner> dangerous =)
[00:41] <planetheroes> yeah i don't normally, i just compiled it and wanted to see if it worked
[00:41] <scott_> it says im not in the sudoers file
[00:41] <sebsebseb> scott_: you need to  reset your sudo password?
[00:42] <scott_> for all accounts
[00:42] <Fougner> scott_, edit /etc/sudoers
[00:42] <Fougner> riplay, ubuntu 8.10 ?
[00:42] <heldburgen> bigrigger: i have to go. thank you for help
[00:42] <scott_> i would if i could, but i get permission denied on trying to even read /etc/sudoers
[00:42] <adful123> i'm loving fluxbox, is that normal? :D
[00:42] <planetheroes> Fougner: if not iptables, any idea what is blocking it from connecting?
[00:42] <sprinkmeier> Fougner, scott_ editing directly is dangerous. visudo is safer, it syntax-checks the file after edit.
[00:42] <sebsebseb> adful123: I guess so
[00:42] <sprinkmeier> scott_, oh, and you need to be root to even read the file (catch 22 :-) live CD? recovery mode?
[00:43] <scott_> im not physically at the computer
[00:43] <riplay> ubuntu 8.10 64 bits
[00:43] <scott_> im trying to help my friend, so do you wnat to see if he has a cd?
[00:43] <scott_> or try recovery mode
[00:44] <sprinkmeier> scott_, makes things difficult... recovery mode needs the password these days (sort of makes it useless to recover passwords). try a live CD
[00:44] <keres> what determines a computer being 64 bit compatible?
[00:44] <Fougner> riplay, http://pastebin.com/m38423cf0 my sources.list
[00:45] <sebsebseb> keres: a 64bit proccessor
[00:45] <sebsebseb> keres: and a computer will normally have at least 4GB RAM if it is meant to run 64bit
[00:45] <sprinkmeier> !password | scott_
[00:45] <keres> sebsebseb: what can be run in terminal to determine if a cpu is 64 bit?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> keres: well I think that's pretty much true for the RAM thing
[00:45] <scott_> ty
[00:45] <bigrigger> keres: uname -m
[00:46] <riplay> thnks
[00:46] <riplay> alot
[00:46] <Fougner> planetheroes, hmm, dunno for the moment, need more info =)
[00:46] <Fougner> riplay, you're welcome
[00:46] <keres> bigrigger: well i installed 32 bit ubuntu, i think i might want 64 bit instead. I may have installed 32bit thinking that my pc _was_ 32bit.
[00:46] <sprinkmeier> keres, cat /proc/cpuinfo tells you what CPU you have, which should tell you if it's 64-bit capable." uname -a" tells you what you're running now (32 or 64)
[00:47] <planetheroes> i hear you, so do i. i actually got it working yesterday on another server
[00:47] <bigrigger> keres: thats ok as far as i know
[00:47] <res22> keres: How much ram do you have?
[00:47] <Fougner> planetheroes, private
[00:47] <planetheroes> i can pm?
[00:47] <sprinkmeier> keres, 64 bit is definetely the way to go, but it does have a few more issues than 32 (and not just in linux :-) if you're new to linux/ubuntu I'd recomment sticking with 32-bit for a while.
[00:47] <Fougner> sure
[00:47] <keres> res22: 2gb, but i am getting 4 soon.
[00:47] <Fougner> sprinkmeier, 64-bits has problems? :O like what? =)
[00:47] <keres> sprinkmeier: http://pastebin.com/m5375b04f
[00:47] <keres> prince_jammys: is that 64 bit?
[00:47] <keres> oops
[00:47] <sprinkmeier> keres, try to boot a 64-bit live CD, that'll tell you :-)
[00:48] <keres> sprinkmeier: is that 64 bit?
[00:48] <pHreaksYcle1> I just installed Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 2400. I log in and just get a black screen with a mouse. im dead, please, someone help me
[00:48] <res22> keres: The majority of people using 64 bit processors use 32 bit operating systems, 64 bit is only useful once you have over 3.3gb
[00:48] <sprinkmeier> Fougner, flash, drivers.... basically lazy coders assuming 32-bit (sizeof pointer* == sizeof int, that sort of thing)
[00:48] <res22> *of ram
[00:48] <keres> res22: I see. I will soon get 4gb of ram, is this processor 64 bit or 32? http://pastebin.com/m5375b04f
[00:48] <cyberjorge> how do i install a bin file?
[00:49] <hobo> How do I get my broadband card working?
[00:49] <Mr_Grieves||> Hi, I'm having trouble installing fglrx in 8.10. I've pulled in all the packages for fglrx and the kernel headers.
[00:49] <pHreaksYcle1> cyberjorge: it should be as simple as just typing the file name
[00:49] <sebsebseb> hobo: is it wireless?
[00:49] <sprinkmeier> keres, damn... you called my bluff :-) I'm actually mostly hardware ignorant, you're better off asking someone else (or trying a 64-bit live CD)
[00:49] <DIFH-iceroot> cyberjorge: chmod +x binfile && ./binfile
[00:49] <Mr_Grieves||> But when I run m-a a-i fglrx, the build fails with no error in the log.
[00:49] <Mr_Grieves||> Any ideas?
[00:49] <king_kong> hi
[00:49] <pHreaksYcle1>  I just installed Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 2400. I log in and just get a black screen with a mouse. im dead, please, someone help me
[00:50] <hobo> Yes. It's a standard PC port card
[00:50] <cyberjorge> pHreaksYcle1: it's says command not found
[00:50] <cyberjorge> DIFH-iceroot: let me try that
[00:50] <Akkernight> ok, is there anyway to get windows.h in Ubuntu? xP Like, I needed for a 2D engine, is there no way I can compile with it?
[00:50] <DIFH-iceroot> cyberjorge: use ./filename and not filename
[00:50] <sebsebseb> hobo: ethernet  should just work, but wireless you can get issues, if you got rubbish wireless hardware,  that isn't properly suppourted when it comes to Linux, because the manufactures coudn't be bothered to
[00:50] <Dreamglider> Is there any fix for laggy flash playing in firefox ? Ubuntu 8.10 and hardware drivers activated. Compiz is turned off aswell.
[00:51] <pHreaksYcle1> Dreamglider: install Flash 10, upgrade your graphics chip
[00:51] <hobo> @sebsebseb- I had it working for over a year with no issues. Then after a standard reboot it quit working.
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: yeah  Ubuntu's  unoffical version of Firefox can have issues with Flash and stuff like that, how about trying Flash in another browser, such as  Epiphany or Galeon
[00:51] <pHreaksYcle1>  I just installed Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 2400. I log in and just get a black screen with a mouse. im dead, please, someone help me
[00:51] <Lord-Jynx> sebsebseb I got into ubuntu 8.10
[00:51] <res22> keres: I don't think it's possible to know from any unix command, what is the output of dmesg | grep CPU
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: they will use the same FLash that Firefox uses
[00:51] <Lord-Jynx> I think you were chatting with me earlier?
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Lord-Jynx: yeah
[00:52] <Lord-Jynx> sebsebseb - I had to do a vga=771 and safe-mode vga during the install
[00:52] <Lord-Jynx> I'm installing now
[00:52] <sebsebseb> pHreaksYcle1: ok xorg issues by the sounds of it, damn :(
[00:52] <Lord-Jynx> see how it works after a reboot.. haha
[00:52] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, no reason why you can't access the file, but there's no way in hades that it's going to help. windows.h defines the windows API, which isn't available in ubuntu (unless you install wine or use a VM or something)
[00:52] <justdave> appears to be a bunch of non-working hardware in the new Mac Minis under Ubuntu
[00:52] <Dreamglider> my current flash version is 10
[00:52] <pHreaksYcle1> sebsebseb: well, suggestions of how to fix?
[00:52] <keres> res22: http://pastebin.com/m428ad8b
[00:53] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: yep ok, now:  sudo apt-get install galeon epiphany-browser
[00:53] <justdave> no sound, it won't reboot without a power cycle (but it'll halt just fine), bluetooth doesn't work
[00:53] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: then try in those
[00:53] <Mr_Grieves||> Is there a howto for fglrx in 8.10? The main page only has 8.04, but it's not working for me.
[00:53] <rappo> hey guys, any idea why when i click "install updates" from update manager it's not doing anything?
[00:53] <justdave> filed bugs in launchpad for all but the bluetooth so far
[00:53] <Akkernight> Yes, I wanna run my .exe with wine, but I get an error saying windows.h doesn't exsist... Should I config Code::blocks to search in my Windows partition?
[00:54] <JanekMZ21> anyone here uses HP L7590 printer?
[00:54] <Lord-Jynx> windows.h is a header file
[00:54] <JanekMZ21> and running on Ubuntu
[00:54] <Lord-Jynx> you are probably missing a .dll
[00:54] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: oh  yeah epiphany might not add itself to the menu, but you can open it from terminal with epiphany-browser once installed
[00:54] <PerryArmstrong> i wanted my system to wake up from the suspension mode only by a key stoke and not by mouse movement.. how can i change this
[00:55] <Dreamglider> sebsebseb: alright ill give it a spin.
[00:55] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, unless your .exe is a compiler I don't know what it wants with windows.h
[00:55] <Mr_Grieves||> It's quite frustrating.
[00:55] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: and I have my own issues with Flash  or even the alternatives to the Flash player,  in Ubuntu's Firefox, but  it wil work good in those two other browsers
[00:56] <Akkernight> it wants windows.h 'cause it's included in the project, this is a DirectX game, running on the HGE engine
[00:56] <Dreamglider> sebsebseb: do i need to install flash for the browser or does it use the same as firefox uses ?
[00:56] <mbrigdan> Anyone know if there is a flash IDE for linux?
[00:56] <hobo> sebsebseb: if the expresscard has worked before for over a year and just recently stopped working, what can I do?
[00:56] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; you mean when it comes to flash, ephiphany is better??
[00:56] <jColl> ﻿Anyone know what's going on with Hardy updates size mismatches?
[00:56] <res22> keres: I think I got it, run grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm, if anything turns up, then your cpu _should_ be 64 bit
[00:57] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: yep probably, try for yourself
[00:57] <pHreaksYcle1>  I just installed Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 2400. I log in and just get a black screen with a mouse. im dead, please, someone help me
[00:57] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: also if  a plugin goes bad in Firefox, the whole browser can screw up, but other browsers for Linux won't do that
[00:57] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, you're compiling a DirectX game under wine so that you can run it in wine, but when you try to build it the IDE complains that windows.h is unavailable. did I get that right?
[00:57] <keres> res22: http://pastebin.com/m7d17afa3
[00:57] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: see the message I just put to the other guy as well
[00:58] <Akkernight> No, I compiled it in Visual Studio on Vista, now I want to start coding it in Ubuntu, is this possible?
[00:58] <Dreamglider> sebsebseb: thankyou works fine :) even in fullscreen :)
[00:58] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; yes i do face those problems and i get frustrated, i suppose epiphany doesn't give such problems
[00:58] <res22> keres: Supposedly the lm in flags means long mode which means it's a 64 bit cpu
[00:58] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: well look at what that guy just put :D
[00:58] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: u there?
[00:58] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, only with a cross-compiler. not sure it that's worth the effort though. hang on, do you want to port the game from windows to linux?
[00:58] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: i still cant launch synaptic
[00:58] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: I prefer Galeon over Epiphany, but Epiphany is nice as well
[00:58] <sprinkmeier> !who | Akkernight
[00:59] <res22> But you should try a 64 bit livecd anyway just to be sure
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: see my message again to other guy
[00:59] <pHreaksYcle1>  I just installed Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 2400. I log in and just get a black screen with a mouse. im dead, please, someone help me
[00:59] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; what is Galeon's special
[00:59] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip: you said to web search i havent found anything u got any ideas?
[00:59] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: many good browsers for Linux
[00:59] <keres> res22: i see. i'll try the livecd 64 bit
[00:59] <RIco> res22: will the 64bit live cd tell you if you system is not 64bit?
[01:00] <sprinkmeier> pHreaksYcle1, version of ubuntu? does the live CD session work?
[01:00] <Akkernight> !tab No, I have just been working on a 2D game in Windows Vista, but now I wanna work on Ubuntu, Code::Blocks and all that, is this possible, or do I need to hang onto Windows?
[01:00] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; i am gonna install Galeon and epiphany, can you tell me what plugins i should install
[01:00] <sprinkmeier> RIco, yes. it'll flatly refuse to boot on 32-bit systems
[01:00] <pHreaksYcle1> spinkmeier: 8.10. live session does NOT work, i used alternate cd
[01:00] <Akkernight> I hate IRC -.-
[01:00] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: I quite like Konqueror as well, but that uses a differnet rendering engine, and I am not sure about getting Flash to work there.   also   Mozilla Suite was before FIrefox, but Mozilla Suite didn't gain much market share, and so they made Firefox, and Mozilla Suite code stopped being suppourted  by Mozilla, but  it's code lives on as Seamonkey. Seamonkey is also good
[01:00] <RIco> sprinkmeier: ty
[01:00] <sprockets> Anyone using 9.04?
[01:00] <pHreaksYcle1> sprinkmeier: 8.10. live session does NOT work, i used alternate cd
[01:00] <jrib> !jaunty | sprockets
[01:00] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: Galeon and Epiphany use the same Flash, that Firefox uses
[01:01] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, I don't know what Code::Blocks is, NFI
[01:01] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: Seamonkey as well
[01:01] <res22> Tbh I'm not sure, running "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm" should tell you if your cpu is 64 bit though
[01:01] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; okk i am looking for a browser which doesn't give me any flash problems and is as good as firefox
[01:01] <sprinkmeier> pHreaksYcle1, is live CD does not work then HW is probably poorly supported. Can you boot into recover mode (i.e. text only)? video drivers are a likely source of problems.
[01:01] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong  Dreamglider   for browser  marketshare reasons it would probably be best to browse the web with Firefox most of the time, by the way
[01:01] <dr_willis> Flash IS the problem. :)
[01:02] <dr_willis> not the browser.
[01:02] <Akkernight> sprinkmeier, it's a C/C++ compiler, I just want to be able to include windows.h in my project while being on Ubuntu, is this possible?
[01:02] <pHreaksYcle1> sprinkmeier: i will attempt to boot into safemode. standby.
[01:02] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong  Dreamglider  also  Gnash and Swfdec are rather nice alternatives to  Adobe's Flashplayer
[01:02] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, possible but probably pointless, see above comment about windows/linux API
[01:03] <sebsebseb> dr_willis: indeed  Flash is crappy closed source software
[01:03] <sebsebseb> dr_willis: I really hate how morons use it for video's on websites
[01:03] <dr_willis> dr_willis: indeed  Flash is crappy closed source software
[01:03] <Akkernight> No, it's not pointless, this is a windows project, I just wanna use Ubuntu, now stop thinking about why, and think how, so how do I do this?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> dr_willis: lol at quoting me
[01:03] <pHreaksYcle1> sprinkmeier: should i go failsafe terminal or failsafe gnome?
[01:03] <dr_willis> Edit : -->   Flash is crappy software
[01:03] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; dreamglider isn't in my repos
[01:03] <Anna_111> running Ubuntu 8.10   and the problem is Administration - > Update Manager doesn't do anything. What can I do to solve it?
[01:03] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: ha ha of course not, that was the other guy I was talking to
[01:04] <sprinkmeier> pHreaksYcle1, failsafe termonal. failsafe gnome will try to start the GUI which might be what's causing the problem.
[01:04] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: oh you can't update your system?
[01:04] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, at your request I'll stop thinking about it.
[01:04] <pHreaksYcle1> sprinkmeier: i thought so. okay starting it up
[01:04] <Anna_111> sebsebseb: that is correct
[01:05] <Akkernight> sprinkmeier, -.- sorry about that, I'm getting frusterated, could you please tell me how or where to read about how to do it?
[01:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: Do you want to cross-compile for Windows, or build a multi-platform app?
[01:05] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; i am installing epiphany and seamonkey, will see which one's better, and how do i enable the plugins??
[01:05] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ok is this a clean install or not?   which version of Ubuntu?
[01:05] <pHreaksYcle1> sprinkmeier: im in the failsafe terminal, but it's appearing odd. its giving me a tiny ass terminal in the bottom right of the screen.
[01:05] <Anna_111> sebsebseb: I installed 8.10 yesterday for the first time. clean install
[01:05] <sprinkmeier> Akkernight, I don't know.
[01:05] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: I already told you,  Epiphany, Galeon, and Seamonkey will use the same Flash that Firefox uses
[01:05] <Akkernight> cross-compile I guess... My project can't find windows.h, and I want it to find it so that I can compile
[01:05] <Lord-Jynx> sebsebseb - FYI... vga=771 seems to let me into X
[01:05] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; ohh fine thank you
[01:06] <Lord-Jynx> wonder why it hates my video card so much :D
[01:06] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ok very cool  if indeed you are a woman/girl,  as the name says you are.   updates should just work though,  but they can also be done on the commandline
[01:06] <Akkernight> IntuitiveNipple, cross-compile I guess... My project can't find windows.h, and I want it to find it so that I can compile (forgot to add the name)
[01:06] <sprinkmeier> pHreaksYcle1, OK... so it's in graphics rather than text mode. You logged into failsafe mode from GDM rather than rebooting and choosing the 'recovery' option? No problem, it seems that all is working, but that when it tries to load the 'real' X server it dies. Looks like video problems to me, don't know much about those I'm afraid.
[01:06] <Anna_111> sebsebseb, yes 100% :) how can I use update on commandline?
[01:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: you'd use mingw
[01:07] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: not sure, but maybe the bot can tell you
[01:07] <Akkernight> and mingw is?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> !update |  Anna_111
[01:07] <pHreaksYcle1> sprinkmeier: thank you very much
[01:07] <pHreaksYcle1> sprinkmeier: ill spam someone else for graphics issues :)
[01:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: the MINimalistic Gnu c compiler for Windows
[01:07] <Anna_111> how can I fix my update Manager?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: thing is there,  if you can't graphically   you have a problem exactly.
[01:08] <sebsebseb> thing is though that was meant to start with
[01:08] <sebsebseb> Anna_111:  do you get the red icon on the top pannel on the right at all?
[01:08] <Anna_111> yes, sebsebseb, it is a downward red arrow with ! inside it
[01:08] <keres> what can you run to display how much ram you have?
[01:08] <Akuma_s> Hi... anyone could you give me advice? I have issues with the NetworkManager for a WiFi connection, it dont accept me the WPA password...
[01:08] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ok and so when you click on it and try and open it up what happens?
[01:09] <Akkernight> IntuitiveNipple, where do I get this?
[01:09] <Anna_111> nothing opens, sebsebseb
[01:09] <mercutio22> Is there someone here who successfully enabled SLI mode of nVidia restricted drivers? I am having some trouble...
[01:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: If you're using Code:Blocks there's tutorials in their forums
[01:09] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: which version of Ubuntu?  how much RAM?
[01:09] <Anna_111> ok.. now I see what you meant.. I chose to show all update
[01:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: looks like their site is down right now... say thanks to the Google cache: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:NdNxupurZgwJ:forums.codeblocks.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D3343.0+code:blocks+cross+compile&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
[01:09] <Anna_111> it's clocking
[01:09] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: it's working now?
[01:10] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how i can wake my system only by a keyboard stroke and not by mouse movement
[01:10] <Akkernight> IntuitiveNipple, ok thanks!
[01:10] <Anna_111> hold on.. it asked for a password.. I have no root password.. 8.10 doesn't have any
[01:10] <gabri> ciao
[01:10] <sebsebseb> Anna_111:  it wants your user account password yeah
[01:10] <XtrHotMarSpy> nah it wants root
[01:10] <Anna_111> ok synaptic package manager has opened.
[01:12] <khmer42> I've exectued a program on the command line and when it load it doesn't give me the command line back it just sits there spitting out log messages (expected behaviour), how can I get the command line back without stopping the app?
[01:12] <socerboy> hey
[01:12] <nightdrever> how do i  get thunderbird working with hotmail and yahoo?
[01:12] <unop> khmer42,  ctrl+z
[01:12] <sprinkmeier> khmer42, CNTRL-Z
[01:12] <Anna_111> thanks sebsebseb.. also do you know how I can set a root password because I do not want to log in to my system with a user password that is also a root password
[01:13] <unop> khmer42, that will suspend the job - to resume it you have to option.  use   bg    to send it in the background or   fg   to bring it into the foreground.
[01:13] <sprinkmeier> Anna_111, sudo passwd root
[01:13] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how i can wake my system only by a keyboard stroke and not by mouse movement
[01:13] <unop> khmer42, s/to/two/
[01:13] <Unguided> hello all. can someone pls tell if asus m2avm-hdmi mobo is fully supported in 810. thanks
[01:13] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: you can have a seperate root account however
[01:13] <sebsebseb> !root
[01:14] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how i can wake my system only by a keyboard stroke and remove the waking up by  mouse movement
[01:14] <khmer42> Thanks I was already doing the Ctrl-z but didn't know about bg.
[01:14] <IntuitiveNipple> PerryArmstrong: disable wakeups for the mouse device
[01:14] <pHreaksYcle1> PerryArmstrong: look in settings and crap. that's a tiny option somewhere
[01:15] <PerryArmstrong> IntuitiveNipple; where do i do that
[01:15] <underdog7> can someone tell me a good newgroups software for ubuntu?
[01:15] <underdog7> *newsgroup
[01:15] <IntuitiveNipple> PerryArmstrong: Maybe through the /sys/ file-system
[01:15] <pHreaksYcle1>  when i log in, i get a black screen and a mouse. anyone?
[01:16] <socerboy> SOCCERLORD29@GMAIL>COM
[01:16] <pHreaksYcle1> no one cares
[01:16] <dimitree> I have files that i can't delete from Trash, on File location it shows trash:///
[01:16] <socerboy> soccerlord29@gmail.com
[01:17] <jrib> socerboy: do you have a support question?
[01:17] <PerryArmstrong> IntuitiveNipple; didnt find it
[01:17] <socerboy> soccerlord29@gmail.com
[01:17] <pHreaksYcle1> jrib: he does not. I, however, do.
[01:17] <Akuma_s> NetworkManager sucks :S
[01:17] <Akuma_s> Hi... anyone could you give me advice? I have issues with the NetworkManager for a WiFi connection, it dont accept me the WPA password...
[01:17] <smitty__> I have an ubuntu 8.10 server hosted with Mosso that I'm trying to configure.  I have root access so the first thing that I did was add a user account for myself.  I've logged in with that new account but now instead of getting a prompt that says "smitty@mysever:~$" i get something that just says $.  My tab complete is now also not working?  Are these problems connected and how could I get tab complete working?
[01:18] <pHreaksYcle1> smitty__: type login
[01:18] <smitty__> pHreaksYcle1, it says "no utmp entry'
[01:19] <dr_willis> smitty__:  edit your .bashrc/.bash_profile to set a prompt and enable bash_completion
[01:19] <pHreaksYcle1> smitty__: idk, just a shot in the dark.
[01:19] <dr_willis> smitty__:  check out the example .bashrc/.bash_profile in /etc/skel
[01:19] <PerryArmstrong> dr_willis; can you tell me how i can wake my system only by a keyboard stroke and remove the waking up by  mouse movement
[01:19] <smitty__> dr_willis, okay I'll check that out.  Thanks
[01:20] <dr_willis> smitty__:  how did you add the user account ?  i normally use the adduser command.
[01:20] <dr_willis> PerryArmstrong:  no idea. I dont let my systems sleep :P
[01:20] <PerryArmstrong> sebsebseb; ohh fine thank you
[01:20] <sebsebseb> PerryArmstrong: uh what?
[01:20] <PerryArmstrong> sbsebseb; ignore that message
[01:20] <l337m4573r> is anyone here experience with using python on ubuntu?
[01:20] <PerryArmstrong> sbsebseb; typed mymistake
[01:21] <smitty__> dr_willis: useradd i belive
[01:21] <PerryArmstrong> dr_willis; ohh fine thank you
[01:21] <Akkernight> how do I find out what architecture type I have?
[01:21] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how i can wake my system only by a keyboard stroke and not by mouse movement
[01:21] <pHreaksYcle1> Akkernight: you have 32 bit
[01:21] <pHreaksYcle1> i386
[01:21] <smitty__> I'm also getting an error on some commands that says "perl: warning: setting locale failed please check that your locale settings are supported and installed on your system"
[01:22] <pHreaksYcle1> can someone please help me with my graphics issue?
[01:22] <Akkernight> I have 32bit!? I was supposed to install 64bit >.<!
[01:22] <Akkernight> how did you know this?
[01:22] <Falstius> how do I change the resolution of the login screen (gdm)?  I only see a quarter of the actual screen.
[01:22] <l337m4573r> is anyone here experienced in using python on ubuntu?
[01:22] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I have a WUSB54GCSv2 and I tried ndiswrapper to get the win drivers to work with ubuntu 8.10 and havent been able to do anything..searching the net hasnt turned up much of anything either anybody else had any luck with these nic's?
[01:22] <pHreaksYcle1> Akkernight: just a guess. most people have 32 bit. check for yourself. go into a terminal and type uname -a
[01:23] <Akkernight> pHreaksycle, x86_64
[01:23] <WNxZiggurat> I feel so foreign here...I downloaded Ubuntu and am hesitant about using it, since I'm a gamer...however I've been told you can emulate windows on top of Ubuntu so you can run windows games...true?
[01:23] <Akkernight> pHreaksycle, does that mean I have 64bit ?
[01:24] <Akuma_s> Falstius,  I had the same issue, if the screen is well configurated with any user, only try login in and out of any of it, it worked with me...
[01:24] <DIFH-iceroot> !wine | WNxZiggurat
[01:24] <sam555> hello all!
[01:24] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: virtualmachine is good, but not for 3D games
[01:24] <pHreaksYcle1> WNxZiggurat: no. you can play certain windows games but ur not emulating a whole windows PC. ur using substitues for windows files
[01:24] <sam555> where is the samba config file located in ubuntu 8.04?
[01:24] <DIFH-iceroot> WNxZiggurat: yes you xan run windows-games on linux, but not all
[01:24] <pHreaksYcle1> WNxZiggurat: you will not be able to play games in a virtual box
[01:24] <pHreaksYcle1> Akkernight: yup.
[01:24] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: you can get quite a lot of Windows games workin in Wine or commercial versions.   Linux has it's own good native games as well
[01:25] <l337m4573r> can anyone help me sovle problem im having with using python on ubuntu?
[01:25] <WNxZiggurat> so i take it retail games like WoW, Rainbow Six Vegas, Battlefield 2, etc, are gonna have trouble or not run?
[01:25] <smitty__> how do i remove a user from the command line?
[01:25] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: and soon Codeweavers Games a commercial version of Wine,  will have proper suppourt for Directx 10, and then you should be able to play most of your Windows games nicely in Linux
[01:25] <schnauzer> I've accidentally deleted my "Window Manager" entry in my Sessions dialog box. Will someone please look in their seesions box and tell me what they have?
[01:25] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: uh in a Linux distro to be exact, since Linux is just the kernel
[01:25] <schnauzer> I'm afraid to reboot...
[01:25] <Tomasso> grgr mylaptop LGE50's fan is making a really bothering noise, i cant concentrate with this.. how should I fix it?? any ideas??
[01:25] <pHreaksYcle1> WNxZiggurat: WoW works on wine really well.
[01:25] <sharath_> Hello guys
[01:25] <sharath_> this is my first time ever on IRC
[01:25] <Tomasso> it may be has some hair stuck ?
[01:25] <Taskatech> join
[01:26] <dimitree> How to unmount my USB Stick, when i try to unmount it it says Emty Trash !?!?!? Why ? I also have files in Trash that can not be deleted ?
[01:26] <sharath_> dimitree
[01:26] <mannytu> I do not think 64 bit system are not 100% backwards compatible if you are running scripts...
[01:26] <syro> i at all
[01:26] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: for now you may have a reason to dual boot Windows,  as in for things that won't work  in  Wine  or commercial versions,  or in a virtual machine.   ,but  soon you probably won't have much of a reason to boot that Windows install up, since the stuff I said
[01:26] <syro> hi
[01:26] <syro> :D
[01:26] <sharath_> you might not be able to delete files from trash because those files belong to root
[01:26] <l337m4573r> any python users in here?
[01:27] <syro> i have a problem with DMA on ubuntu 8.10
[01:27] <schnauzer> anyone?
[01:27] <DIFH-iceroot> schnauzer: anyone what?
[01:27] <dimitree> sharath_, i did a sudo nautilus and it didn't work from there also
[01:27] <syro> someone know the correct procedure for active it?
[01:27] <JanekMZ21> anyone using HP 7590 printer with Ubuntu?
[01:27] <rysiek|pl> l337m4573r: try #python
[01:27] <sharath_> i know
[01:27] <syro> i just tried to modify hdparm .conf
[01:27] <smitty__> how do I delete a user?
[01:27] <syro> but no results
[01:27] <sharath_> i had that problem
[01:27] <pHreaksYcle1> JanekMZ21: you would be better off talking to google on that one.
[01:27] <Unguided> hello all. can someone pls tell if asus m2a vm-hdmi mobo is fully supported in 810. if not can someone tell me where to look for the information. thanks
[01:27] <sharath_> wait a min and I'll tell u a way around it
[01:27] <DIFH-iceroot> smitty__: deluser
[01:27] <Akuma_s> Try man deluser smitty__
[01:27] <schnauzer> to please look in their Preferences > Sessions dialog box and tell me what they have for "Window Manager" -- I've accidentally deleted mine....
[01:27] <dimitree> sharath_,  what are you saying ? I can't use my USB anymore ? all the files i want to store on the USB go in the Trash can and then i can't remove them :(
[01:27] <grendal_prime> anyone familar with the program rekall?
[01:27] <smitty__> thanks guys
[01:28] <pHreaksYcle1> Unguided: look at newegg and read the comments
[01:28] <Akuma_s> The command is deluser smitty__
[01:28] <JanekMZ21> I've tried google, didn't help much
[01:28] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | grendal_prime
[01:28] <shippo> i am having issues trying to add a share point in pyneighborhood, anyone familar with it?
[01:28] <sharath_> woah!! I'm sorry dimitree
[01:28] <sharath_> then I guess thats a totally different problem
[01:28] <pHreaksYcle1> Unguided: many many linux users will post on newegg comments for that very reason
[01:28] <grendal_prime>  Im using an application called rekall to do my query bulding visually.  its nice for hammering out things quicklike..but i have notice several of the features - the qurey builder of course...cause rekall to crash..is anyone familar with this application?
[01:28] <sharath_> I'm new to ubuntu
[01:29] <anthonyyaco> anyone have any comments on using multiple monitors in ubuntu. I am having some problems with intel and defining the primary monitor and having correct resolutions on each screen.
[01:29] <sam555> where is the ssh service located?
[01:29] <pHreaksYcle1> sharth_: welcome. have fun, it's a crazy world out there.
[01:29] <Unguided> pHreaksYcle1: thanks
[01:29] <grendal_prime> Im trying to see if there is something i can do to stablize this application.
[01:29] <dimitree> sharath_, ok thank you for trying :)
[01:29] <sebsebseb> sharath_: what do you want help with?
[01:29] <schnauzer> DIFH-iceroot: A bit of an embarrassment on my part... Can someone please look in their Preferences > Sessions dialog box and tell me what they have for "Window Manager" -- I've accidentally deleted mine....
[01:29] <sharath_> PhreaksYcle1 : thank you
[01:30] <sharath_> you're welcome
[01:30] <dimitree> lol now it's showing that my USB is a Disk haha
[01:30] <dimitree> ridiculous
[01:30] <gmap> the only way to convert .img to .vdi is with vditool DD binary.vdi *.img but if i install vditool it uninstalls virtualbox. why is this
[01:30] <sharath_> dimitree: I love it when Ubuntu taxes my brain
[01:31] <dimitree> sharath_, any idea why i can't access the Trash can even when i run sudo nautilus ? :d
[01:31] <mercutio22> Hello world. Is it possible to nVidia cards in sli mode working in ubuntu?
[01:31] <sharath_> dimitree : sometimes I live days with a wounded system before I am able to fix it
[01:31] <shippo> I can not get pyneighborhood 0.5 to connect to a share point after installing on xubuntu 8.10, any known issues?
[01:31] <sharath_> dimitree : not really
[01:32] <sharath_> dimitree : but i can tell u where those files are located
[01:32] <dimitree> sharath_, you have courage :) i'm more of a quick and durty fixer, in this case ill install opensuse lol
[01:32] <dimitree> what the hack is going on o-o
[01:32] <WNxZiggurat> sigh, i have crazy questions that are soo noobish for ubuntu i'm afraid to ask them, because haven't even installed the OS yet, out of fear of lack of knowledge...
[01:33] <sharath_> dimitree : lol... Its no bravery.  I'm a struggling learner. Fixing this works out easier than learning a whole new game
[01:33] <dimitree> sharath_ o well thanks for the support buddy take care :)
 : Go ahead and ask your questions
[01:34] <sixofour> !alsa
[01:34] <sixofour> hrm,is there an alsa channel?
[01:34] <WNxZiggurat> well, things like program installation peak my list of questions...i take it installation for programs in Ubuntu is different from say, windows?
[01:34] <marcc> how can I tell what causes a load average of 12.08?
[01:34] <sharath_> dimitree : you're welcome any day pal
[01:34] <marcc> none of my applications will start and htop shows firefox at 7% cpu
[01:35] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: :)
[01:35] <shippo> anyone?
[01:35] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : Yes. It is different and maybe easier than windows once you get the hang of it
[01:35] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat:  installing most software in Ubuntu is much easier than Windows
[01:35] <WNxZiggurat> how so?
[01:35] <syro> someone can help me with dma?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: most software you would ever want in Ubuntu, you can get from a slow graphical package manager, think of add or remove programs in Windows, but one where you can search for programs and  download them
[01:35] <WNxZiggurat> that's pretty cool actually
[01:36] <hlfshell> So i created a softlink in /usr/bin/ in order to create a command so i can run a program stored in my home folder. This works perfectly when executed in a terminal, but does NOT work when I have a shortcut on my panel execute that command . What could be going wrong?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: then there is the command line let's say for example  you were going to install Abiword a rather nice Microsoft Word alternative:  sudo apt-get install abiword
[01:36] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: command and programname
[01:36] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: and it downloads and installs it for you in the terminal, much quicker than the slow graphical ways
[01:36] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : first of all, instead of the installers that you get in windows, you have what are known as 'Packages'
[01:37] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : so what you do when you want a piece of software is install a 'package'
[01:37] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : with me so far?
[01:37] <WNxZiggurat> please, go on
[01:37] <Akuma_s> Linux depends so damn much in Internet, I hate that...
[01:37] <dingleberry> anyone noticed on hulu.com lag even when out of fullscreen , with firefox and the latest flash?
[01:38] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : so these packages are downloaded from the internet from servers known as repositories or 'repos' for short
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Akuma_s: look in the built in Ubuntu help there is quite a bit for offline installs in there
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Akuma_s: I meant info in there for offline installs
[01:39] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : these packages also depend on other bits of code for their routine working and such pieces of code that these packages depend on are called 'dependencies'
[01:39] <Akuma_s> I know sebsebseb, to get the dependencies... is a mess with out Internet...
[01:39] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : any doubts?
[01:39] <WNxZiggurat> doubts about ubuntu or the process of installing?
[01:40] <WNxZiggurat> i have my doubts with ubuntu based on how much of a gamer i am, but i'm looking to branch out a little, and have more fun with my computer than just gaming
[01:40] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: the installer is pretty straight forward, but to do a really good install, you have to set it up manualley :D  however the  guided installs are also ok
[01:40] <sharath_> WNxZiggurat : i was explaining the underlying theory so that you can follow my logic
[01:40] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: dual boot the computer,  Windows and Ubuntu
[01:40] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: then later on you will probably be able to get rid of Windows :d
[01:40] <WNxZiggurat> well, i'm willing to just dive into ubuntu and feel it out
[01:41] <pHreaksYcle1> hey gord
[01:41] <bob_brain> I'm trying to restore my ubuntu install after I installed windows xp.  I'm having trouble restoring the grub bootloader as I cannot load into my install which already exists
[01:41] <shippo> perhaps i am going about this wrong, I am trying to mount a windows shared folder, I have installed smb, but can not mount the folder yet
[01:41] <sixofour> Is there a way to record the output of my sound device? In windows this is done by routing the output [stereo mix] to the input [mic in]
[01:41] <WNxZiggurat> i have very little data to back up, but that leads to another question...ubuntu will work with music i have right now, right?
[01:41] <shippo> any information would be greatly appreciated
[01:41] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat:  a lot of the Ubuntu basics are covered here, but not everything.  http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:41] <nightrid3r> !grub | bob_brain
[01:41] <iamjay> hey hrum.. is there a way to mv a direcory to a certain place, where a directory of the same name alraedy exists, but if it should just overwrite stuff..?
[01:42] <pHreaksYcle1> shippo: http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/01/quick-dirty-samba-guide.html follow that guide, go to network and open the folder from there.
[01:42] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: let's be more specific what do you want to use your computer for, and what games do you want to play?
[01:42] <pHreaksYcle1> shippo: if that doesn't work, i don't know where else to send you :)
[01:42] <zamba> i need ubuntu packages for php4, mysql4 and apache2.. where can i find these?
[01:42] <sixofour> zamba:  use "apt-cache search"
[01:42] <sixofour> in terminal
[01:42] <shippo> thanks pHreaksYclel
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !lamp |  zamba
[01:42] <zamba> sixofour: it's not there
[01:43] <sixofour> oh
[01:43] <sixofour> i don't know then :(
[01:43] <sixofour> Is there a way to record the output of my sound device? In windows this is done by routing the output [stereo mix] to the input [mic in]\
[01:43] <zamba> sixofour: i'm talking about php4 and mysql4
[01:43] <sixofour> sorry zamba beyond apt-get i don't know
[01:43] <WNxZiggurat> i just game (WoW, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, GRID, CoD5, etc) and listen to music right now...wanting to play with Ubuntu to see how much more I can do with my computer...I'm great with windows, but this is really just an excuse to try something new
[01:43] <Time`s_Witness> what languages can gdb debug by the way? C, C++, anything else? Or maybe the right question is what can't it debug? xD
[01:43] <sixofour> WNxZiggurat:  get wine
[01:43] <sixofour> :D
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | WNxZiggurat
[01:43] <pHreaksYcle1> WNxZiggurat: that's how it always starts :) try out UrbanTerror
[01:44] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: oh and I have helped quite a few people set up great partition set ups, be that  Ubuntu only or  Ubuntu and Windows dual booting
[01:44] <sixofour> duel booting is nasty imho
[01:44] <samd> zamba, php5 is in the repositories
[01:44] <sixofour> you end up having to reboot 15-20 times a day
[01:44] <pHreaksYcle1> can someone please, for the love of god, give me some tips on how to fix my graphics issues?
[01:44] <zamba> samd: sure, but i need php4
[01:45] <sebsebseb> sixofour: lol  that depends
[01:45] <sixofour> i liek to reboot once a monht
[01:45] <pHreaksYcle1> sixofour: you did something wrong. dual booting is flawless for thousands
[01:45] <sixofour> i didn't do anything wrong
[01:45] <mac2612> Hi....I can't seem to read the battery state or change brightness after waking up from an s3 suspend. Anybody got any ideas?
[01:45] <nightrid3r> zamba: install php5 and set zend_compitibility in the conf
[01:45] <sixofour> you have to reboot to change your OS
[01:45] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: you would get most of your stuff working natively or with wine or whatever,  and then  a virtual machine.  and a dual boot as last resort :)
[01:45] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: that would be a good set up
[01:45] <zamba> nightrid3r: oh? tell me more..
[01:45] <sixofour> besides why use such an obsolete mothod..duel booting?..just get a virtual machine
[01:45] <zamba> nightrid3r: finally some useful information here:)
[01:46] <WNxZiggurat> well, for now, i'm getting ready to get it running using VMWare to see how it'll perform just as a basic OS
[01:46] <nightrid3r> zamba: it will make php5 run like php4
[01:46] <sixofour> then you don't have to boot anything
[01:46] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: for Windows games you need Wine or commercial versions.  ,but  2D games will run in a virtual machine
[01:46] <zamba> nightrid3r: perfect!
[01:46] <nightrid3r> zamba: google for the exact setting
[01:46] <zamba> nightrid3r: where were you one week ago? :)
[01:46] <sixofour> Is there a way to record the output of my sound device? In windows this is done by routing the output [stereo mix] to the input [mic in]\
[01:46] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: I would recommend virtualbox  and  you need binary from their site for USB suppourt
[01:46] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: you can also try Ubuntu in another way that is more real
[01:46] <nightrid3r> zamba: drunk maybe :)
[01:46] <zamba> nightrid3r: and the following days? i've been asking about this in here for days :)
[01:46] <Impy> Hi how do I go about making ubuntu automount a partition on boot, So I don't have to keep clicking places then the harddrive?
[01:46] <zamba> nightrid3r: hehe.. i'll buy you one if this works out :)
[01:47] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: and  install it and uninstall it like a Windows application,  I normalley woudn't recommend this, because it then puts Ubuntu inside  a section of your Windows partition
[01:47] <sebsebseb> WNxZiggurat: so basically it dual boots and you get the Windows boot loader and the Linux boot loader Grub, but it is not like a real proper partition set up, and so I would only recommend for trying if at all
[01:47] <RichardWolfVI> Hey, how do I change the Firefox UI language.
[01:47] <RichardWolfVI> ?
[01:47] <lightdragon> hey i have a question which I originally thought was c++/boost related... but I think it might be related to my ineptitude with ubuntu... I'm trying to compile the boost libraries... but it's not working... would anyone know anything about this?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> !wubi | WNxZiggurat
[01:47] <jrib> lightdragon: why are you trying to compile the boost libraries...?
[01:47] <Athenon_> 216.73.123.11.....can someone tell me if it's a nonpingable host or if it really doesnt exist?
[01:48] <lightdragon> jrib: because I need to use them for the program that I'm writing
[01:48] <Akkernight> how do I install insight-6.9
[01:48] <Akkernight> ?
[01:49] <anthonyyaco> advice on video card, dual monitors, for intel card, vostro 1400 laptop
[01:49] <anthonyyaco> please?
[01:49] <RichardWolfVI> Athenon_: http://who.is/whois-ip/ip-address/216.73.123.11/
[01:49] <jrib> lightdragon: do you know what APT is?
[01:49] <nightrid3r> 13 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11999ms
[01:49] <nightrid3r>  
[01:49] <Athenon_> yeah i know...its like the host is down or something -_-
[01:49] <nightrid3r> Athenon_: --^
[01:50] <zamba> nightrid3r: argh, didn't work
[01:50] <XtrHotMarSpy> nightrid3r, that means it's broken
[01:50] <sixofour> Is there a way to record the output of my sound device? In windows this is done by routing the output [stereo mix] to the input [mic in]\
[01:50] <zamba> nightrid3r: i've set this in .htaccess and ran phpinfo(); to check to make sure that the setting got activated
[01:50] <nightrid3r> zamba:  upgrade scripts to php5 then
[01:50] <zamba> zend.ze1_compatibility_mode was the setting
[01:51] <anthonyyaco> because i am having alot of problems trying to run a dual screens not cloned and make the primary one on my laptop
[01:51] <RichardWolfVI> Any help with setting my Firefox Locale?
[01:51] <zamba> *sigh*
[01:51] <lightdragon> jrib: that's the package manager right?... I noticed that there is boost inthere, but it is an old version. I'm using a newer one. The older one doesn't mesh with my new code... I'm coding on windows and ubuntu at the same time... Or at least trying too... I haven't been able to code on Ubuntu for my project ever since I involved boost since I can't get it to compile properly.... it tells me that it skipped
[01:51] <lightdragon> 7320 targets and updated 707 targets
[01:51] <nightrid3r> zamba: yup thats the one
[01:51] <zamba> it's not my scripts :p
[01:51] <Akkernight> The guy who invented Ubuntu or Linux is a genious! Just so you peeps know xP
[01:51] <pHreaksYcle1> Akkernight: that would be me
[01:51] <zamba> i'm just porting the application to linux
[01:51] <b_9> I can't ssh from work to home, but used to be able to and can if I delete all my ssh software and restart...   it notes some kind of error but lets me log in the first time...
[01:51] <nightrid3r> Akkernight: that would be a few thousend people
[01:52] <pHreaksYcle1> Akkernight: just kidding. you should read some wikipedia.
[01:52] <jrib> !compile | lightdragon
[01:52] <pHreaksYcle1> nightrid3r: takes only one person to invent
[01:52] <mac2612> is there maybe a FAQ for suspend issues?
[01:52] <Akkernight> I don't care xP This is just awesome, and I want to share that I think it is xD
[01:52] <RichardWolfVI> !locale
[01:53] <pHreaksYcle1> Chousuke: I need some graphics help and someone dropped your name. spare a minute?
[01:53] <MindShifter> woohoo lots of ubuntu people here
[01:53] <pHreaksYcle1> MindShifter: good call
[01:53] <b_9> be back soon...
[01:53] <lightdragon> jrib: thanks i'm looking at that now...
[01:53] <anthonyyaco> Chousuke: i need graphics help to kinda. anyone?
[01:53] <Akkernight> make[3]: *** [itk_cmds.o] Error 1
[01:53] <Akkernight> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ian/Documents/insight-6.8/itcl/itk'
[01:53] <Akkernight> make[2]: *** [install] Error 1
[01:53] <Akkernight> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ian/Documents/insight-6.8/itcl'
[01:53] <Akkernight> make[1]: *** [install-itcl] Error 2
[01:53] <FloodBot1> Akkernight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <Akkernight> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ian/Documents/insight-6.8'
[01:54] <jrib> lightdragon: honestly though if it's really the case that the versions in the package manager can't suit your needs you should look for a distro with bleeding edge packages.  It's more likely to break, but you can at least use it to install your dev requirements
[01:54] <zamba> nightrid3r: so rewriting the code isn't an option
[01:54] <zamba> nightrid3r: i need php4 (and not as a cgi either, since i set a lot of php values in .htaccess files)
[01:54] <nightrid3r> zamba: remove php5 and compile php4 yourselfe
[01:55] <zamba> nightrid3r: but this will probably break unmentionable things
[01:55] <pHreaksYcle1> anthonyyaco: what's ur issue, perhaps i can assist
[01:55] <zamba> nightrid3r: and i need to compile it as a module for apache and not as a cgi
[01:55] <lightdragon> jrib: how do i find that? And so far as I know that doesn't exist for the boost libraries... For some reason as much as I search for prepackaged/precompiled things for boost, they just don't seem to exist
[01:55] <anthonyyaco> Dual Monitor problems with intel card anyone help me find a good driver and way to install. i am not familiar with how ubuntu handles this
[01:56] <nightrid3r> zamba: ask in #php they will be able to help better
[01:56] <anthonyyaco> thanks PHreaks
[01:56] <jrib> lightdragon: tried arch for example?  (though we should move to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[01:56] <macman> guys
[01:56] <pHreaksYcle1> i dont really think theres any special driver you need
[01:56] <jrib> lightdragon: or even debian
[01:56] <Ignatius> o_O there's a #php?
[01:56] <pHreaksYcle1> you need to see what graphics driver you have
[01:56]  * Ignatius runs to join
[01:57] <anthonyyaco> uhmm i try to plug in a monitor and i just cant get it to make the primary screen my laptop
[01:57] <macman> there a way to install touchpad software and not use the defualt drivers / software that come with a ubuntu install ?
[01:57] <pHreaksYcle1> anthonyyaco: then google it, along with dual monitor
[01:57] <nightrid3r> Ignatius: there is probably a # for any project
[01:57] <lightdragon> jrib: I'll meet you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:58] <anthonyyaco> dude i did and i can not find anything for intel cards. all i get is stuff for nvidia
[01:58] <Akkernight> how do I get a insight.exe ...?
[01:58] <nightrid3r> !wine | Akkernight
[01:59] <Akkernight> yeah, but how do I download it?
[01:59] <anthonyyaco> pHreaksYcle1: can we get our own chatroom or something? it is so hard to do anything in here.
[01:59] <pHreaksYcle1> anthonyyaco: start a private chat with me.
[02:00] <Eressolar> hrm. i noticed in /etc/sysctl.conf in 8.04, all of the "additional settings" setting components are separated by / not a . as with the rest of the settings. in 8.10, all are seperated with a period. should i be concerned about 8.04's, then?
[02:01] <Akkernight> does anyone know where I can download insight.exe ?
[02:01] <XtrHotMarSpy> Akkernight, for windows?
[02:02] <Akkernight> I'm supposed to run it using wine
[02:02] <Droopsta915> I like Linux and wish to keep learning. Anyone know a good place to start looking for entry level Linux jobs in Colorado?
[02:02] <DIFH-iceroot> Akkernight: google
[02:02] <Akkernight> I've tried google
[02:02] <marcc> Droopsta915: a local user group perhaps? I've found jobs that way
[02:03] <samd> zamba, i found some php4 packages for older ubuntu versions, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php4
[02:03] <Droopsta915> marcc:yes very god, I didn't think of that. Thank you. I am on a mission to land a Linux job.
[02:03] <TwoToneSpirit> Hey everybody!
[02:03] <zamba> samd: how can i install these on ubuntu hardy?
[02:04] <shippo> anyone have experience with xubuntu?
[02:04] <Akkernight> I'm in a hurry, does anyone know where I can download insight.exe which I'm supposed to run using wine, thanks in advance!
[02:04] <DIFH-iceroot> samd: sudo apt-get install php4   but why using php4 instead of php5?
[02:04] <zamba> DIFH-iceroot: he was helping me out
[02:04] <samd> zamba, download them, they are deb packages
[02:04] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: If you're in hurry maybe you should read the instructions I gave you earlier, and check out the mingw site as per the link it provides
[02:04] <zamba> DIFH-iceroot: and i need to run php4 because of incompabilities
[02:04] <samd> DIFH-iceroot: php4 its not in intrepids repos
[02:05] <Akkernight> I'm reading it, that's where I got the instructions to download this, but the link they provide is empty, I'm not completely retarded
[02:05] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I have a WUSB54GCSv2 and I tried ndiswrapper to get the win drivers to work with ubuntu 8.10 and havent been able to do anything..searching the net hasnt turned up much of anything either anybody else had any luck with these nic's?
[02:05] <bigrigger> Akkernight: ask the persons or person that told you are supposed to run insight.exe
[02:05] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: So explore the Sourceforge project downloads lists until you find it then!
[02:05] <samd> zamba : ive installed older versions packages and worked fine with me, not sure if this specific package will work, it should, as far as i know
[02:06] <Akkernight> I have also done that, I downloaded some insight for Linux, I need it in .exe format
[02:06] <IntuitiveNipple> bigrigger: He's reading the instructions from the Code:Blocks Wiki I pointed him to, but their link is slightly old so when you follow it you have to use some lateral thinking to find the file
[02:06] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, that's the best nick i have ever seen
[02:06] <zamba> samd: fingers crossed :p
[02:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: If I can find it in 30 seconds as I did, I'm sure you can!
[02:06] <DIFH-iceroot> Akkernight: google with "insight.exe download"
[02:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435&package_id=82725&release_id=358837
[02:07] <shippo> xubuntu anyone?
[02:07] <Akkernight> I have googled that, I found some buisness thing
[02:07] <bigrigger> IntuitiveNipple: I see.
[02:07] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | shippo
[02:07] <mezquitale> I am attempting to synchronize my phone using multisync0.90, i keep getting "Error while connecting" error next to "evo2-sync", can anyone help me!!!!!
[02:07] <DIFH-iceroot> samd: zamba sorry have not seen it with ibex
[02:07] <Akkernight> IntuitiveNipple, ... You knew what you were looking for, right? xP
[02:07] <samd> zamba, yup :p,
[02:08] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: No. I've never looked at that before, I just used my brain!
[02:08] <nightrid3r> zamba: http://www.dotdeb.org/2008/08/23/php-449-available/
[02:08] <shippo> can not get a shared windows folder to show up in xubuntu with pyneighborhood, with samba already installed. any ideas?
[02:08] <zamba> samd:  apache2.2-common conflicts with libapache2-mod-php4 (<= 4:4.4.4-2)
[02:08] <zamba> argh!
[02:08] <zamba> of course
[02:08] <Akkernight> IntuitiveNipple, I have no brain... xP Seriously, I tried finding it, waited 20 mins to download the wrong thing too -.-
[02:09] <CarlFK> what gif-dev thing do I need to install to appease: LFLAGS += -lgif
[02:09] <pHreaksYcle1> I REALLY NEED SOME HELP
[02:09] <pHreaksYcle1> when i log in, i get a black screen and a mouse
[02:09] <pHreaksYcle1> does ANYONE know wtf is going on
[02:09] <samd> zamva ://
[02:09] <samd> zamba ://
[02:09] <doleyb> pHreaksYcle1: that sounds bad!  does control-alt-f1 help??
[02:09] <IntuitiveNipple> pHreaksYcle1: dual monitors?
[02:09] <zamba> i'm so tired of banging my head against the wall with this
[02:10] <pHreaksYcle1> IntuitiveNipple: nope. just one plain old monitor on a plain old machine. which is why this is frustrating.
[02:10] <zamba> i'll try getting apache2.2-common
[02:11] <XtrHotMarSpy> hey, what's a good size for the swap file?
[02:11] <doleyb> XtrHotMarSpy: about the same size as your RAM
[02:11] <bigrigger> zamba: use synaptic, search for php, use the php version with the ubuntu logo, probably php5
[02:11] <IntuitiveNipple> pHreaksYcle1: ahh ok, you mentioned that for someone else. So what's your symptoms?
[02:11] <XtrHotMarSpy> doleyb, that's about what i thought.
[02:11] <Akkernight> How do I move something using the terminal? I'm getting permission denied, and I guess sudo will help
[02:11] <pHreaksYcle1> I log in, get a black screen, and a mouse
[02:11] <pHreaksYcle1> that's all
[02:11] <XtrHotMarSpy> anyone else got any swap file size advice?
[02:12] <doleyb> Akkernight: well, sudo mv oldplace newplace #but be careful movin stuff!
[02:12] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: About 1.5x size of RAM *if* you want to hibernate and use the swap partition for it
[02:12] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, sounds good too.
[02:12] <shippo> can not get a shared windows folder to show up in xubuntu with pyneighborhood, with samba already installed. any ideas?
[02:12] <XtrHotMarSpy> any other estimates?
[02:12] <zamba> bigrigger: for the fourth time.. i NEED to use php4
[02:13] <nightrid3r> XtrHotMarSpy: 1.5 - 2.0 X ram size
[02:13] <Cano`Away> hi
[02:13] <Cano`Away> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[02:13] <funkyHat> zamba: I'm sure you've been told this countless times already but php4 is no longer supported, it's been unsupported for over a year, I would strongly suggest fixing your software so it works with php5
[02:13] <XtrHotMarSpy> ok, next question ... how can i change the size of the swap file?
[02:13] <IntuitiveNipple> pHreaksYcle1: we need more information. What kind of PC? what video card? Which Ubuntu release? have you installed any proprietary (restricted) drivers? have you 'played' with the xorg.conf ?
[02:14] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: Is it a swap partition or a file?
[02:14] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, the partition.
[02:14] <zamba> funkyHat: and again, it's not my software, so fixing several thousand lines of code is not an option right now :)
[02:14] <zenlunatic> IntuitiveNipple, he should use fdisk right?
[02:14] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: That depends on whether there's free disk space above before the next partition
[02:14] <pHreaksYcle1> IntuitiveNipple: dell dimension 2400. intel graphics. 8.10. its a fresh install. all i did to the xorg was redo it will all of the default options to see if that would fix anything
[02:14] <hotmonkeyluv> what's the command to see what version kernel I have?
[02:14] <space_cadet> hey guys...   How's about a fix...   I want Thunderbird and Lightning to integrate into the calendar app under the clock in the gnome-panel so it shows appointments stored in lightning OR sunbird.
[02:14] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, i wanna make it smaller
[02:14] <nightrid3r> zamba: is it a new server install??
[02:15] <Akkernight> what's a shell script?
[02:15] <anubis> Hi, can some one help me, I installed Wubi ,but I don't have root user access, how can I get it?
[02:15] <zenlunatic> Otacon22, uname -a
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: That's unusual :) You've got the easy job then!
[02:15] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, okies. what?
[02:15] <nightrid3r> !root | anubis
[02:15] <zenlunatic> hotmonkeyluv, uname -a
[02:15] <zamba> nightrid3r: yeah
[02:15] <hotmonkeyluv> Akkernight, it's a list of shell commands that the terminal does in order
[02:15] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: Do you want to reclaim the freed space for something else though?
[02:15] <sebsebseb> anubis: wubi is good for trying, but then you should partition your hard disk properly later on
[02:15] <hotmonkeyluv> zenlunatic, thanks
[02:15] <nightrid3r> zamba: k lemme check something
[02:15] <space_cadet> anyone a wiz with gnome-panel?
[02:15] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, yeah, i want to make it part of the system partition
[02:15] <Akkernight> hotmonkeyluv, how do I make a shell script?
[02:16] <funkyHat> !ask | space_cadet
[02:16] <zenlunatic> anubis, sudo -s
[02:16] <space_cadet> funkyhat  i did
[02:16] <zamba> i'm about to go crazy here.. i tried pulling down apache2-common.. but it again depended on apache2-utils.. so i pulled that too down, hoping this finally was the end of the rabbit hole.. oh no.. apache2-utils requires two other packages that the current version is to new for
[02:16] <IntuitiveNipple> pHreaksYcle1: ok.... first you need to boot into Recovery mode so you have a text console and root permissions to actually explore and fix things. You can get to Recovery mode from the GRUB boot menu when the PC starts.
[02:16] <zamba> too new*
[02:16] <anubis> so basically, with Wubi, I don't have the option to load into root user?
[02:16] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: OK, now you've made it difficult again!
[02:16] <space_cadet> !askthebot >ubottu
[02:16] <zenlunatic> IntuitiveNipple, yeah just boot to runlevel 1
[02:16] <space_cadet> !askthebot > funkyHat
[02:16] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, that's what linux is for, isn't it? :)
[02:17] <Akkernight> ok, figured it out!
[02:17] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, it's probably easier to just reinstall, right?
[02:17] <thiebaude> Hi IntuitiveNipple
[02:17] <shippo> can not get a shared windows folder to show up in xubuntu with pyneighborhood, with samba already installed. any ideas?
[02:18] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: It means you have to 1) disable swap. 2) use cfdisk or fdisk to shrink the swap partition 3) recreate the swap with mkswap 4) the difficult bit - move the next partition down then expand it then grow the file-system inside it.
[02:18] <doleyb> shippo: I'd learn the ip address and type that directly, instead of trying to browse for it
[02:18] <space_cadet> anyone a wiz with gnome-panel?
[02:18] <shippo> did that no go
[02:18] <funkyHat> space_cadet: ah so I see. sorry. What's displayed by the calendar applet is what's stored in evolution data server, so if you want lightning or sunbird's appointments to show up there you'll have to figure out some way of syncing them up with evolution
[02:18] <space_cadet> i was afraid of that
[02:19] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, yeah, it's easier just to install it again :)
[02:19] <space_cadet> nvm then
[02:19] <space_cadet> thanks funkyHat
[02:19] <IntuitiveNipple> XtrHotMarSpy: Honestly  - if you've got no data/settings to loose, for a novice, yes it is
[02:19] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, yep
[02:19] <XtrHotMarSpy> IntuitiveNipple, thanks
[02:20] <IntuitiveNipple> s/loose/lose/
[02:20] <nightrid3r> zamba: centos 4 still provides php4 support
[02:20] <hotmonkeyluv> Akkernight, look online, there are some really good tutorials on it
[02:20] <nightrid3r> zamba: cant find anything to get php4 going on ubuntu besides compiling it yourslef
[02:21] <Akkernight> why does code::blocks say "std::tr1" hasn't been declared, still intellisense shows some tr1 info?
[02:21] <shippo> doleyb: I tried that and it was a no go, any other ideas?
[02:21] <zamba> nightrid3r: maybe just go for centos 4 then
[02:22] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: not sure, but that looks like a library class constant
[02:22] <doleyb> shippo: nmap windowsbox
[02:22] <Akkernight> Aha! Boost, forgot that, thanks!
[02:22] <nightrid3r> zamba: seems like the easy way, but talk to your software supplier cos php4 support will run out on centos too
[02:23] <zamba> nightrid3r: i only need it for another month or so
[02:23] <zamba> nightrid3r: but i need it -now- :p
[02:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: I'll be following you shortly. Just started writing a cross-platform app for webcam/video/audio/text over P2P and it has to work on Linux/Windows/OSX :)
[02:23] <nightrid3r> zamba: attack them download servers :)
[02:24] <funkyHat> zamba: could you install an older version of ubuntu? ubuntu 6.06 LTS is still supported for a server install
[02:24] <funkyHat> zamba: if you only need it temporarily
[02:24] <zamba> funkyHat: but does that have php4?
[02:24] <Akkernight> P2P as in peer-to-peer ? Also, if you want to contact me, I'm on MSN at jacobsen92@hotmail.com and email at www.itj@gmail.com, but I ain't 100% sure I understood you correctly xP
[02:25] <samd> zamba, dapper supports php4, i duno if dapper is 6.06
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: why not install an older OS version in a chroot or VM ?
[02:25] <lstarnes> samd: it is 6.06
[02:25] <funkyHat> zamba: yes
[02:25] <shippo> doleyb: at a command prompt?
[02:25] <samd> lstarnes, ight thanks
[02:25] <nightrid3r> Akkernight: you realise you just gave your mail to spammers, this # is logged publicaly
[02:25] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: Yes, distributed multiuser conferencing and streaming
[02:25] <zamba> funkyHat: what version of mysql there?
[02:26] <funkyHat> zamba: 5.0.22
[02:26] <zamba> oh, i was hoping for 4.x
[02:26] <zamba> that would've been perfect
[02:26] <Akkernight> nightrid3r, I don't care xP They can spam me as much as they want, I have a block option ;) and I might need to use that IntuitiveNipple ;)
[02:27] <crdlb> zamba: it has both, I believe
[02:27] <doleyb> shippo: yeah, first apt-get install nmap if you need it... that's not super-helpful though.  Next step is smbclient //windowsbox/drive
[02:27] <funkyHat> I'm thinking it probably has both, but I can't find mysql4 on p.u.c
[02:28] <IntuitiveNipple> Anyone know how to get to the Xubuntu logout panel button with only the keys, or the hotkey combo for it? (touchpad disconnected)
[02:28] <samd> zamba
[02:28] <funkyHat> zamba: yes it does, it has 4.1 too
[02:28] <zamba> oh
[02:28] <samd> zamba Package mysql-client-4.1
[02:28] <samd>     * dapper (misc): mysql database client binaries [universe     4.1.15-1ubuntu5: amd64 i386 powerpc
[02:28] <zamba> i'll do that
[02:28] <zamba> dapper, you say?
[02:28] <funkyHat> yes
[02:28] <zamba> i can't wait for the next thing to break :p
[02:28] <samd> lol
[02:29] <paulocelso68> webcam
[02:29] <DIFH-iceroot> IntuitiveNipple: ctrl + alt + del you mean?
[02:29] <paulocelso68> help webcam monitor samsung 2263uw
[02:30] <O__o> hi how to get out of suspend in ubuntu?  everytime i accidently hit the power key or suspend key (i dont know what it is)  the computer screen goes off and i cant do anything accept push the power button for 4 sec and turn the computer off
[02:30] <IntuitiveNipple> DIFH-iceroot: I thought so, but no response :( Ctrl+Alt+F1 gets me to a console though
[02:30] <sprockets2000> might sound off what channel is arch linux thought they were also on this server
[02:30] <sprockets2000> nm typo
[02:30] <DIFH-iceroot> IntuitiveNipple: hm, ctrl + alt + del is working fine with kde and gnome
[02:30] <l337m4573r1> could anyone please help me get my xbox 360 to connect to the internet throught my laptop that runs ubuntu?
[02:30] <paulocelso68> what does nm typo mean?
[02:31] <O__o> does ubuntu have suspend or no?
[02:31] <DIFH-iceroot> O__o: yes
[02:31] <funkyHat> sprockets2000: #archlinux
[02:31] <lstarnes> paulocelso68: "never mind, that was a typo"
[02:31] <O__o> how do i disable the key on the keyboard so i dont hit it accidently?
[02:31] <paulocelso68> suspend mode does not work correctly.
[02:31] <paulocelso68> Ubuntu "sleeps" but doesn't awake.
[02:31] <DIFH-iceroot> O__o: energy-options and there you can choose what happend if you hit the key
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> DIFH-iceroot: I'm debugging a resume-immediately issue on a Vaio notebook and have got in it bits with most device connectors unplugged including the touchpad to try and find out which hardware device is injecting a wakeup interrupt :)
[02:32] <IntuitiveNipple> DIFH-iceroot: seems like I've disconnected one thing too many
[02:33] <zamba> good thing this is a vmware server :p
[02:33] <O__o> i go into power management preferences and found there is an option "When the suspend button is pressed:"
[02:33] <O__o> do i change it to "do nothing"??
[02:33] <DIFH-iceroot> O__o: yes
[02:33] <paulocelso68> I am having some issues with samsung 2263uw lcd monitor. The webcam doesn't work. Can anybody help me?
[02:33] <nightrid3r> zamba: vmware rulez
[02:33] <O__o> how come when the suspend doesnt work in ubuntu and it is still there in ubuntu?
[02:33] <LurkersA> 0__o, That would just stop it working all together, is that what you want?
[02:33] <LurkersA> Suspend works fine for me
[02:33] <simard> I have a usb key that I completely dd'ed to a file.. now I would like to mount -o loop the vfat partition within this file (keep in mind the file is the whole key, along with the partition table). Is this possible ?
[02:34] <DIFH-iceroot> O__o: its working but not with all hardware
[02:34] <O__o> in my netbook i can goto sleep and wake up using ubuntu, is there different between laptop and desktop?
[02:34] <DIFH-iceroot> O__o: works fine here too on 3 pcs
[02:34] <zamba> nightrid3r: indeed it does :)
[02:34] <DIFH-iceroot> O__o: yes, the hardware is the difference
[02:34] <O__o> maybe something in my desktop doesnt work with sleep
[02:34] <O__o> DIFH-iceroot, ok
[02:35] <fearful> O__o, does it try too?
[02:35] <O__o> what is the diff betweeb suspend and hibernate?
[02:35] <Akkernight> how do I cancel a process that's running in the terminal, like make
[02:35] <IntuitiveNipple> simard: Yes: sudo losetup /dev/loop0 /dev/sdX
[02:35] <MindShifter> does anyone here have any experienc or know how to get ventrilo to stream audio on xubuntu?
[02:35] <nightrid3r> Akkernight: kill
[02:35] <IntuitiveNipple> simard: The sudo mount -t vfat /dev/loop0 /mnt/dir
[02:36] <zamba> O__o: suspend writes to memory, whereas hibernate writes to disk
[02:36] <l337m4573r1> could anyone please help me get my xbox 360 hooked up to the internet through my laptop thats running ubuntu?
[02:36] <nightrid3r> Akkernight: kill <pid> actualy
[02:36] <zamba> O__o: so suspend consumes power, hibernate doesn't
[02:36] <O__o> ic currently i have suspend option
[02:36] <O__o> i should change it to hibernate maybe it works?
[02:36] <paulocelso68> Samsung monitor 2263uw webcam issues... does anybody know how to solve it?
[02:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: Press Ctrl+C to interrupt it, make handles signals
[02:36] <O__o> but how do u wake up from hibernate?
[02:36] <fearful> O__o, do you have swap?
[02:36] <O__o> i have swap enable
[02:36] <fearful> O__o, just turning the computer back on
[02:37] <simard> IntuitiveNipple, hum no the usb key is not /dev/sdX right now.. it's in a file on my HD
[02:37] <O__o> i should try the hibernate now, brb
[02:37] <simard> IntuitiveNipple, or maybe I got it wrong
[02:37] <paulocelso68> Pode-se falar em português aqui?
[02:37] <Akkernight> jeez, I'm getting many errors from Boost make command... Is this usual?
[02:37] <nightrid3r> l337m4573r1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713874
[02:37] <nightrid3r> !pt | paulocelso68
[02:37] <IntuitiveNipple> simard: Then instead of /dev/sdX give the path to the file
[02:38] <zamba> oh.. ubuntu dapper has an option for installing a lamp server.. nice :)
[02:38] <zamba> but i won't do that
[02:38] <simard> IntuitiveNipple, wont work either, I dd'ed the whole key, with the partition table.. not only the vfat partition
[02:38] <paulocelso68> #ubuntu-br
[02:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Akkernight: probably missing dependencies
[02:38] <paulocelso68> help
[02:38] <paulocelso68> ajuda
[02:39] <IntuitiveNipple> simard: Oh! Your original explanation suggested the inverse... no partition table. What Ubuntu release are you using?
[02:39] <nightrid3r> paulocelso68: type /join #ubuntu-br
[02:39] <paulocelso68> Ok..
[02:39] <simard> IntuitiveNipple, 8.04
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> simard: OK, you can't use xpart then... mount it on the loop as I described, then use sudo fdisk -ul /dev/loop0 and get the starting sector number of the partition.
[02:40] <wrektjet> sorry for being off topic but could someone direct me to a server where i can find help with my hardware- finishing up my build and having some cable issues
[02:40] <lstarnes> wrektjet: try ##hardware
[02:40] <simard> IntuitiveNipple, what I need to do is to make the file appear as if it was a /dev/sdX drive.. I guess
[02:41] <wrektjet> lstarnes thnx that was an easy one
[02:41] <l337m4573r1> could someone help me with a problem?
[02:41] <IntuitiveNipple> simard Then, drop the loop (sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0) and remount it at the offset of the partition (512 X starting-sector-number) so "sudo losetup -032256  /dev/loop0 /path/to/file" would work if the starting sector was 63
[02:41] <os11> hi this is O__o
[02:41] <os11> hibernate doesnt work neither
[02:41] <simard> IntuitiveNipple, ok I will try this, thank you !
[02:41] <justdave> is there an official Ubuntu kernel that has PAE enabled?
[02:41] <os11> the computer goes blank and it is on but i cant wake it up
[02:42] <IntuitiveNipple> simard: eeek... crucial typo... should have been "sudo losetup -o32256  /dev/loop0 /path/to/file"
[02:42] <simard> k
[02:42] <chachin> omg 1312 people
[02:42] <os11> is there a way to change that suspend/sleep key to become power key?
[02:42] <IntuitiveNipple> simard: remember, the -oXXXXXX is 512 x starting-sector-number of the partition, discovered with fdisk -ul
[02:42] <chachin> ISP Monitor-Stats Up To [March 2009]
[02:42] <chachin> Total: [17503MB]
[02:42] <chachin> Upstream: [3803MB]
[02:42] <simard> IntuitiveNipple, gotcha
[02:43] <Keal> how do i revert to wine 1.0.1 from 1.1.17?
[02:43] <SeViLLa> os11: try looking in the gconf-editor
[02:43] <os11> how?
[02:43] <Akkernight> Keal, removing Wine, then installing version 1.0.1 should work
[02:43] <os11> SeViLLa, how?
[02:43] <Keal> i don't know how to install 1.0.1 instead
[02:43] <fearful> Keal, just purge the current one, and remove the repository for 1.1.17 (if you added one)
[02:43] <Akkernight> but you'll need to find version 1.0.1 somewhere
[02:43] <Keal> everytime i reinstall it automatically uses 1.1.17
[02:44] <Keal> how do i remove the repository?
[02:44] <fearful> Keal, did you add the repository for 1.1.17?
[02:44] <SeViLLa> os11: alt +f2 then type gconf-editor
[02:44] <fearful> Keal, System > Administration > Software Sources > Third-Party
[02:44] <Keal> i had to manually add the repository and install it using terminal because the repository system itself it glitched
[02:44] <casdf> hi, is there a fast vnc server for ubuntu? im using the default in 8.10 and its horrificly slow
[02:45] <zamba> casdf: sure it's not your network?
[02:45] <os11> SeViLLa, which option i am looking for?
[02:45] <casdf> zamba: vnc to the same comp when its in windows is ultrafast
[02:46] <zamba> casdf: aptitude search vnc
[02:46] <casdf> well, preferably id like one thats ez to config and known to be fast
[02:46] <SeViLLa> os11: hold on im looking for it
[02:47] <fearful> casdf, I think you should try different vnc clients and see which is best for your computer/network
[02:47] <Keal> i hit revert and i don't think anything happened
[02:47] <os11> maybe there is a way to change the suspend button to power button somehow?
[02:48] <fearful> Keal, gksu gedit /etc/apt/souces.list and paste on pastebin.
[02:48] <SeViLLa> os11: under aps then gnome-powermanagment then buttons
[02:48] <Keal> does it matter that i am using wine for mirc right now?
[02:48] <fearful> Keal, no
[02:48] <fearful> casdf, apt-cache search vnc will work
[02:48] <Keal> fearful what do i paste?
[02:49] <fearful> Keal, everything in that file
[02:49] <fearful> !pastebin
[02:49] <l337m4573r1> could someone help me hok up my xbox to share internet from my linux based laptop?
[02:49] <casdf> fearful: yeah, but im remote configging all of these
[02:49] <os11> SeViLLa, do i change the value of suspend from "nothing" to "interactive"?
[02:50] <zamba> funkyHat: Note: selecting "mysql-server-5.0" instead of the virtual package "mysql-server-4.1"
[02:50] <zamba> will me luck ever change?
[02:50] <zamba> will my*
[02:50] <pHreaksYcle1> l337m4573r1: explain
[02:50] <SeViLLa> os11: try changing the value, fyi though ive never tried it so keep that in mind
[02:51] <zamba> and NO packages with the name php4 in them
[02:51] <MindShifter> anyone available to help me get ventrilo to stream audio? currently running it on wine and tried rhythmbox and winamp using alsa drivers
[02:51] <zamba> i can't believe this is happening
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> l337m4573r1: Maybe use dnsmasq to run a DHCP+DNS server on your laptop that the Xbox will get its IP address and default gateway from
[02:51] <os11> SeViLLa, it works !!!! thx so much
[02:51] <Akkernight> how do I configure Code::Blocks with boost?
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php4&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[02:51] <zamba> samd, nightrid3r and funkyHat: http://pastebin.com/m3c6a88d1
[02:51] <SeViLLa> os11: cool no problem
[02:52] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: why can't i see them here?
[02:52] <os11> SeViLLa, THX O__o ~~
[02:52] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: Is that dapper?
[02:52] <extrapolate> 252/349....
[02:52] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: this is dapper, yeah
[02:52] <Feeniks> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[02:52] <SeViLLa> os11: :)
[02:52] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: oh yeah I see it is :p
[02:53] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: Is dapper out of support? If so, the packages will have been removed from the archives
[02:53] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: according to some other person here on the channel, it was still in support
[02:53] <crdlb> dapper is supported until June 2011 for servers
[02:54] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: yeah... the archive has them: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/php4/
[02:54] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: so i have to install the packages manually?
[02:54] <crdlb> zamba: you probably don't have universe enabled
[02:54] <os11> SeViLLa, what about the email key??
[02:54] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: instead of using apt?
[02:54] <zamba> crdlb: ah
[02:54] <IntuitiveNipple> zambaL check that the local archive specified in the apt sources.list has them... some mirrors *might not* if you're unlucky
[02:54] <os11> i would like the email key to open opera mail instead of the evolution mail, how do i do that?
[02:54] <zamba> oh yeah!
[02:55] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: When you do apt-cache search php4 does it report no package found?
[02:55] <Keal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132275/
[02:55] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: i found them now :)
[02:55] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: enabling universe did the trick
[02:55] <zamba> i'm starting to smile again
[02:55] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: lol
[02:56] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: whattamistakatomaka
[02:56] <zamba> let's just hope mysql-server-4.1 is there as well
[02:56] <fearful> Keal, remove the line 54: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt ....
[02:56] <Chai619> hi all
[02:56] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mysql-dfsg-4.1/
[02:57] <Keal> how do i remove a line?
[02:57] <fearful> Keal, then do sudo apt-get update and try sudo apt-get purge wine and re-installing it.
[02:57] <Chai619> had a question will ubuntu run on a P3 700mhz wid 256mb ram
[02:57] <fearful> Keal, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and highlight the line and delete it and save the file
[02:57] <zamba> IntuitiveNipple: it's all here now! :)
[02:57] <crdlb> Chai619: I'd say you want a bit more RAM
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Chai619: Try Xubuntu, that is a little bit lighter on memory usage and CPU than Ubuntu.
[02:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Chai619: I have two Vaio notebooks here running Jaunty 9.04 Xubuntu with 256MB and 384MB respecitvely
[02:58] <Chai619> ah i see yea its an old ibm laptop i had
[02:58] <crdlb> Chai619: there's ha huge difference between 384MB and 256MB with gnome, in my experience
[02:58] <Keal> text editor says i don't have permissions to save the file :<
[02:58] <SeViLLa> os11: you know im not sure look around in the gconf-editor to see what things do thats what i did
[02:59] <fearful> Keal, did you type gksu before?
[02:59] <Keal> i just browsed to the file and opened it in text editor
[02:59] <Chai619> ill try the xubuntu then
[02:59] <fearful> Keal, in the no in the terminal you must run the command gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list < it will run it as root (you need to).
[02:59] <fearful> Keal, forget the 'in the'*
[03:00] <Keal> why can't i use my pass in text editor?
[03:00] <nightrid3r> l337m4573r1: http://chesterlog.blogspot.com/2008/08/xbox-wireless-by-proxy-through-ubuntu.html
[03:00] <fearful> Keal, because you have to run it as root before you can edit in the text editor thats just the way it is.
[03:00] <Akkernight> why is there such a hussel about the visuals of Vista, while Ubuntu has way cooler visuals? Like slime kindish windows and stuff..
[03:00] <nightrid3r> l337m4573r1: will also work with wired connection
[03:00] <Keal> fearful ubuntu is worse than shaving with a bowling pin :<
[03:01] <grendal_prime> i cant find the dev files for mysqldb?
[03:01] <fearful> Keal, what?
[03:01] <fearful> Keal, how can you say that :( its what makes it secure
[03:01] <nightrid3r> grendal_prime: mysql-devel
[03:01] <grendal_prime> im building rekall from source and it needs the dev files for mysql..i can find them to save my live in the repos
[03:01] <grendal_prime> ya...why an i not finding htat...
[03:02] <Guest36397> Hey folks, I've been poking around google and ubuntu fourums but I can't find exactly what I'm looking for, but I might be searching for the wrong thing?  I have 3 drives installed in my pc, 2 sata and 1 ide, I have xp installed on a sata drive (sda in the ubuntu partition manager I believe) and I want to install Ubuntu on a spare partition of another hdd which iirc is on the other sata hdd (it's been a while since I've touched this mac
[03:02] <Keal> http://neisius.deviantart.com/art/shaving-with-a-bowling-pin-41409064
[03:02] <Keal> that fearful
[03:02] <Keal> ubuntu is worse than shaving with a bowling pin
[03:02] <Keal> it is like shaving with a hair curler
[03:03] <IntuitiveNipple> grendal_prime: this may help: sudo apt-get build-dep libmysqlclient-dev
[03:03] <fearful> Keal, what does that have to do with opening a file as root?
[03:03] <grendal_prime> wow
[03:03] <scratch_> Keal, ubuntu is awesome...give it some time and a chance...
[03:03] <Keal> i gave it time, i don't see why i am not allowed to use my password to edit the file using a text editor like any sane person would wish to do
[03:04] <Deeta> @shaving with a blowing pin: somehow i get the feeling that the author of the pic had no clue that OSX descends from BSD
[03:04] <beilabs> Running intrepid, can no longer see any network shares. Any pointers?
[03:04] <IntuitiveNipple> grendal_prime: actually that won't help, that was totally upside down! :D
[03:04] <scratch_> Keal: because that's a protected system file...you need to do it as root...think 'administrator' in windows
[03:04] <tritium> Keal: you can.  Your user's password is what sudo uses.
[03:04] <O__o> hi how to change the prefer email reader to opera instead of evolution?
[03:04] <fearful> Keal, what do you mean not allowed to use the password, you have to type it it will ask you because of 'gksu' if you would run the command I mentioned
[03:04] <Keal> why can't i use root to allow text editor to save it?
[03:04] <IntuitiveNipple> grendal_prime: lets try again.... sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev
[03:05] <casdf> so is vino using 100% cpu a known issue, or do i have some setting wrong
[03:05] <fearful> Keal, gksu is root.
[03:05] <fearful> !sudo | Keal
[03:05] <scratch_> Keal: you can that's what fearful is trying to help you to do
[03:05] <Keal> then how do i run text editor using sudo?
[03:05] <scratch_> type sudo gedit file
[03:05] <fearful> Keal, in the terminal type: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list I've mentioned it 4 times
[03:05] <tritium> Keal: gksudo gedit <path to file>
[03:06] <fearful> scratch_, gksu*
[03:06] <Keal> that doesn't have a gui
[03:06] <tritium> fearful: use gksudo
[03:06] <scratch_> fearful: o
[03:06] <fearful> tritium, I did, gksu
[03:06] <tritium> Keal: no gui?  Command line?  sudo vi <file>, or sudo nano
[03:06] <Keal> it is worse than word perfect 1.0 for MS-DOS 2.0
[03:06] <casdf> sudo vi
[03:06] <tritium> fearful: gksudo, not gksu
[03:06] <Droopsta915> Whats up with system 76? Is that a good product?
[03:06] <fearful> tritium, it's the same isn't it?
[03:07] <fearful> tritium, sudo for non graphical apps gksu or gksudo for graphical apps
[03:07] <tritium> fearful: no, gksu is a frontend to su.  gksudo is a frontend to sudo.
[03:07] <scratch_> Keal: so use openoffice.org :D
[03:07] <scratch_> Keal: its sexy
[03:07] <fearful> tritium, oh I see
[03:07] <Keal> i have programs for my 38 year old commdore pet 4016-n (which has only 16k of ram) that are superior to gksu
[03:08] <grendal_prime> thanks
[03:08] <scratch_> ?
[03:08] <tritium> Stop feeding the troll, folks.
[03:08] <grendal_prime> that didnt work but it did explain that   libmysqlclient15-dev 5.0.45-1ubuntu3.4
[03:08] <_lowercase> this is the only place were linux users are helpful and don't behave like dicks with n00bs
[03:08] <grendal_prime> and i was able to install that...
[03:08] <grendal_prime> weird...i was not able to find it just searching for it..
[03:09] <_lowercase> I love you ALL !
[03:09] <Keal> gksu is like stepping into the 50s
[03:09] <Keal> :<
[03:09] <tritium> Keal: sorry you're not understanding.  Stop trolling, or leave.
[03:09] <Keal> how do i log into root to grant the text editor program admin priveledges
[03:09] <danbhfive> can anyone test baobab for me?  on intrepid?
[03:10] <tritium> Keal: priveleges are given to users, not programs.
[03:10] <Frijolie> anyone know how to successfully change a volume label name of an external USB media player?
[03:10] <fearful> Keal, are you playing it? gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list on the "terminal"
[03:10] <Silkjc> I just installed gnome-colour-chooser and now I can't get it back to system colours with System > Prefs > Appearance..any ideas? X.x
[03:10] <accused> I'm going to keep poking around on the forums, but if anyone has time to respond to my long winded question could you please /msg me so I get it? :)
[03:10] <Keal> then what good is having root if you can't do what i want?
[03:10] <Keal> :/
[03:10] <fearful> Keal, well if you donot run the command I'm telling you you will get no where.
[03:11] <_lowercase> Keal: get a mac
[03:11] <tritium> Keal: what you want to do is foolish from a security standpoint.  It's good, for one, in that it prevents you from doing something so foolish.
[03:11] <Keal> is there a patch i can use root to install that grants one time application of admin access for saving a file from a given proigram?
[03:11] <zamba> i report success!
[03:11] <scratch_> Keal: yes get a mac and install linux on it...
[03:11] <unop> Keal,  sudo -i
[03:11] <zamba> php4 up!
[03:11] <IntuitiveNipple> zamba: nice one :)
[03:11] <_lowercase> lol
[03:11] <nightrid3r> zamba: nice
[03:11] <tritium> Keal: we've told you repeatedly to use sudo.
[03:12] <Frijolie> Keal, use 'sudo'
[03:12] <scratch_> Keal: do you have a terminal open?
[03:12] <Keal> i want to use a graphical interface to edit the file
[03:12] <nightrid3r> Keal: go to the doctor and have your eyes checked
[03:12] <rbd> hey guys, dumb question: I have 8.10 and have lines for intrepid-updates in my sources.list ...I do an apt-get update, but I can't get any package in ubuntu-updates it seems ...do I need to do something else to have access to these packages?
[03:12] <Frijolie> scratch_, Im baaaaaaaack!
[03:12] <fearful> Keal, gksudo is the graphical root
[03:12] <tritium> Keal: we have you *repeatedly*: gksudo gedit <file>
[03:12] <dubby> hey anyone do you know if it is possible to make the screensaver turn at that moment with a terminal command?
[03:12] <scratch_> Frijolie: hey did you figure that out?
[03:12] <Frijolie> scratch_, nope
[03:13] <_lowercase> i think keal is just goofing aroud
[03:13] <nightrid3r> rdb sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:13] <nightrid3r> rbd: --^
[03:13] <scratch_> Keal: do you have a terminal open?
[03:13] <sprinkmeier> dubby, gnome-screensaver-command --activate
[03:14] <scratch_> Frijolie: did you see what the volume is listed at under a M$ based system?
[03:14] <scratch_> as*
[03:14] <Keal> i used gksudo to grant text editor root access and ubuntu still claimed it didn't have root access
[03:15] <Chai619> thank you for the help guys in choosing xubuntu for my laptop
[03:15] <Frijolie> scratch_, I don't have access to a Window$ computer right now, unless I can figure out how to do it in VirtualBox
[03:15] <rbd> nightrid3r, thanks...tried that.. I'm looking to specifically have libshout3 updated with what's in intrepid-updates ....I do a apt-get upgrade and get nothing... and the version of libshout3 installed is from intrepid (e.g. not from -updates)
[03:15] <sprinkmeier> Keal, maybe the text editor is too smart to run as root.... some progs drop superuser
[03:15] <Keal> >:|
[03:15] <tritium> Keal: *users* not *programs* are granted root access.  You need to understand the difference.
[03:15] <sprinkmeier> Keal, sudo nano FILENAME   not GUI but fairly easy to use
[03:16] <Keal> it asked me what program i wanted to grant root
[03:16] <anubis> Please can any tell me what's the best way to install real player from binary and also a from source code
[03:16] <nightrid3r> rbd: maybe something depends on the old libshout thats installed
[03:16] <tritium> Keal: no, it didn't.  That's not how it works.
[03:16] <nightrid3r> rbd: icecast maybe?
[03:16] <Frijolie> scratch_, loading the guest right now..."found new hardware"...
[03:16] <fearful> Keal, all we said was the gksudo is used to manage programs which the USER will use that are graphical
[03:16] <pekalongan> fghf
[03:16] <Keal> that's what it 'terminal > gksudo' blatantly outlined i was doing
[03:17] <O__o> anyone here uses apple keyboard with ubuntu?
[03:17] <rbd> nightrid3r, ok I'll look into it more, thanks
[03:18] <Frijolie> scratch_, "a problem occurred with the installation of your hardware. your hardware may not work properly"
[03:18] <Keal> fearful then obviously the caption for gksudo is misleading
[03:18] <_lowercase> Keal: just make an effort and learn how to use pico or nano that's basic stuff
[03:18] <scratch_> Keal: vi is where it's at :D
[03:18] <_lowercase> you just need two commands
[03:19] <fearful> Keal, use sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list then
[03:19] <Keal> i don't want to use a text base editor, i want to use one with a gui, that is why i use a contemporay computer, not a commdore pet
[03:19] <spamjam> hi, i just installed ubuntu and activated the recommended nvidia drivers, version 173 from the hardware drivers box. now, whenever a window isn't active, the top seems to disappear and i can't see the minimize, expand and close buttons. how can i fix this?
[03:19] <_lowercase> ctrl+o to save ctrl+x to exit that's all
[03:19] <spamjam> my video card is a 7600gt
[03:19] <danbhfive_jaunty> can anyone test baobab      aka the Disk Usage Analyzer on intrepid?  tell me if it works for you?
[03:19] <tritium> Keal: PAY ATTENTION, then.  We've told you how.
[03:20] <IntuitiveNipple> tritium: Keal is correct. If gksudo is run *without arguments* it shows a dialog and asks for the program to run.
[03:20] <SeViLLa> _lowercase: what about vim
[03:20] <fearful> Keal, well we have told you multiple times what to do, learn how to use gksudo, gksu, sudo
[03:20] <tritium> IntuitiveNipple: but it does not grant privileges to programs.
[03:20] <_lowercase> i told you: get a mac
[03:20] <Nith> can anyone get me started on reading raw from the USB?
[03:20] <IntuitiveNipple> I think the misunderstanding here is that everyone assumed Keal ran "gksudo gedit" but he ran "gksudo"
[03:20] <fearful> _lowercase, thats not a solution you should be giving :) lol
[03:20] <scratch_> Frijolie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70741
[03:20] <tritium> IntuitiveNipple: Keal has been told _repeatedly_ to use "gksudo gedit <filename>"
[03:21] <scratch_> Frijolie: can you fool HAL?
[03:21] <Frijolie> scratch_, just restarted the guest and now it's mounted as "SANSA FUZE (E:)" in Windblows
[03:21] <_lowercase> but why is he using linux?
[03:21] <IntuitiveNipple> tritium: I *know* that, but it doesn't stop the later confusion :)
[03:21] <fearful> IntuitiveNipple, we specifically mentioned "gksudo gedit" tho
[03:21] <O__o> whats the diff between sudo and gksudo?
[03:21] <tritium> _lowercase: because he is a troll, and wants to be here stirring up trouble
[03:21] <O__o> sudo gedit file also work here
[03:21] <sebsebseb> gksudo for graphical apps
[03:21] <Frijolie> scratch_: never messed with HAL before
[03:21] <_lowercase> using the terminal is MANDATORY
[03:21] <IntuitiveNipple> fearful: Yes, it did look as if Keal was baiting you but... you never know... I've known people think the CD tray is a mug stand!
[03:21] <fearful> sebsebseb, drop it ;) not worth it he's just messing around
[03:21] <Keal> the caption for gui gksudo produces when supplied no arguments is misleading, it comes across as if root is granted to the program itself. not granting permission to use the program
[03:21] <scratch_> Frijolie: read that post... it actually sounds really easy
[03:22] <sebsebseb> fearful: ok
[03:22] <danbhfive_jaunty> !gksu > O__o
[03:22] <casdf> can i get some help in setting up xvnc on ubuntu
[03:22] <sprinkmeier> Keal, maybe "sudo wine notepad.exe" will work and make you happy.
[03:22] <Frijolie> scratch_: thanks, I'm checking it out now..may be outdated? March 2005?
[03:22] <casdf> i followed part 2 of tutorial here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135036
[03:22] <cdenny> should i download 8.1 or 9.04
[03:22] <cdenny> since it comes out april 23
[03:22] <fearful> cdenny, 9.04 is in alpha test it hast many bugs etc. I would stay with 8.10 or download 8.10
[03:22] <cdenny> ok
[03:22] <tritium> cdenny: depends on when you need it.
[03:22] <cdenny> goodbye
[03:22] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: there will be lots of updates to 9.04 until then
[03:22] <casdf> but vncviewer says connection reset by peer
[03:22] <O__o> order 8.10 for free
[03:22] <cdenny> i need it now
[03:23] <cdenny> torrents
[03:23] <FloodBot3> cdenny: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:23] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: go with 8.10
[03:23] <Deeta> cdenny: you should choose 8.10 Even if 9.04 is relased 2009-04-23 it is still likely that it is not as stable as 8.10 by then
[03:23] <sprinkmeier> cdenny, 8.10. upgrade if/when later.
[03:23] <SeViLLa> does anyone have any suggestions for bash's readline library mode for vi or emacs i cant make up my mind
[03:23] <Keal> would notepad have admin access for saving /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:23]  * crink prefer 9.04 than 8.10
[03:23] <khmer42> I have openssh-server install in 8.10 server and it seems like it will only allow one ssh connection at a time. Is this normal with the default settings?
[03:23] <phayte> same here, crink
[03:23] <cdenny> anyone here run xp in workstation?
[03:23] <sprinkmeier> SeViLLa, oh god, I feel a vi vs. emacs holy war coming....
[03:23] <crink> :)
[03:24] <tritium> Keal: last warning.
[03:24] <fearful> Keal, no, can you just simply run the command in the terminal word for word; gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.
[03:24] <O__o> still running 8.04 here
[03:24] <sprinkmeier> cdenny, xp dual-booting with ubuntu? in that case, I do.
[03:24] <spamjam> how do i install nvidia drivers from the nvidia site? i'm new at linux :)
[03:24] <tritium> spamjam: don't.  Use the ubuntu packages.
[03:24] <cdenny> no virtual xp in ubuntu
[03:24] <SeViLLa> sprinkmeier: mybad its a honest question
[03:24] <Keal> warning for what i am being serious, how am i supposed to know if one of you are being sarcastic? i've only been using ubuntu since saturday morning
[03:24] <spamjam> the one from the hardware drivers list?
[03:24] <cdenny> im bored with windows since im so smart, but i need cs3
[03:24] <cdenny> lolk
[03:25] <O__o> notepad?? haha
[03:25] <cdenny> im just sick of stealing software
[03:25] <fearful> Keal, why would we be sarcastic this is official support channel.
[03:25] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: i thought cs3 works in wine?
[03:25] <SeViLLa> sprinkmeier: what do you use??
[03:25] <cdenny> musikgoat|main really?
[03:25] <sprinkmeier> SeViLLa, do you prefer vi or emacs? choose whichever commands you're more comfortable with. Failing that, leave it at default else you'll get weirded out when you go to a box that is at default.
[03:25] <tritium> Keal: for trolling.  You've ignored all advice.
[03:25] <O__o> i prefer emacs
[03:25] <cdenny> musikgoat|main I know cs2 does, but i need cs3 for automate panorama
[03:25] <spamjam> i tried installing those drivers, but whenever a window isn't active, it seems to disappear. i forgot what it's called haha. the top with the close and minimize button.
[03:25] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: yeah, i think, check the winedb
[03:25] <sprinkmeier> !who | cdenny
[03:25] <Keal> 20090316202209 <sprinkmeier> Keal, maybe "sudo wine notepad.exe" will work and make you happy.
[03:26] <Keal> is that sarcasm or not?
[03:26] <cdenny> im sorry, i cant read this, mirc makes the text archaic
[03:26] <cdenny> did someone tell me something
[03:26] <tritium> Obviously not, Keal.
[03:26] <fearful> Keal, you wanted to run a graphical notepad, that actually does work. Just wouldnt' do it for sources.list.
[03:26] <sprinkmeier> SeViLLa, default, whatever that is :-)
[03:26] <_lowercase> fearful: but we're not all official supporters
[03:26] <Keal> ok thanks
[03:26] <crink> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  and 9.04 iso  and 2GB USB flash drive(usb-boot) is enough,
[03:26] <albertolempira> hey guys i'm trying to share two folders between my laptop and desktop (both running intrepid) but there's no way I can browse through the "shared" folders i always get a "could not mount" message, is there somebody who know what could be happening? thx
[03:27] <fearful> _lowercase, yes but if we are helping here were all other official supporters are its because we would like to do the same if not we would be banned or what not.
[03:27] <SeViLLa> sprinkmeier: i use vi for an editor but i was unaware that emacs was bash default readline
[03:27] <musikgoat|main> give Keal a break though folks, he's learning
[03:27] <Keal> i now know there is no way in hell sources.list can be editing by anything other than sudo from the terminal app having logged in as root due to being a special file
[03:27] <tritium> Keal: we've told you repeatedly about gksudo gedit <filename>, and you start asking about Notepad?  You realize that's a Windows app?  Stop trolling.  If you want help, pay attention.  Otherwise, leave, or I'll show you the door.
[03:27] <cdenny> why is ubuntu 4.3gb!??!
[03:27] <Keal> thank you for explaining that
[03:27] <tritium> Keal: wrong
[03:27] <Keal> ??
[03:27] <SeViLLa> sprinkmeier: i changed it to vi though
[03:27] <cdenny> I thought it was around 700!
[03:28] <O__o> Keal, because sources.list owner is root
[03:28] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: thats the dvd version with a bunch of extra apps
[03:28] <O__o> u need sudo
[03:28] <Nasra> hi, I am using skype call conferencing ....neither my girlfriend nor me see eachother ......I am using logitech camara...do I need any driver or soemthing is wrong with my system?
[03:28] <cdenny> musikgoat|main :(
[03:28] <jtaji> Keal: you don't even need a terminal, hit alt+F2, type gksudo gedit in the box, then use file > open to open any file you need to edit as root
[03:28] <Nasra> thanks
[03:28] <bonez46> what does it mean if I am installing 8.10 desktop.. the Partitions Formatting dialogue is up, at 5% and consistently halts after a few minutes at that point with this error message > Failed to create a file system The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sda) failed. ?????
[03:28] <cdenny> musikgoat|main where can i find a torrent for cd
[03:28] <tritium> Keal: it does *not* have to be edited from the command line, as we've told you a hundred times.
[03:28] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: grab the cd iso, its 700,  at releases.ubuntu.com
[03:28] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: the .torrent file is there too
[03:29] <O__o> Nasra, u need to open the webcam first
[03:29] <tritium> gksudo allows you to run gedit (a graphical app) with root priveleges.  For some reason, you won't, or refuse to, try this advice.  So, I'm done trying to help you.
[03:29] <Keal> sorry i am visually impaired, i didn't realize gedit had a gui at the top :S
[03:29] <O__o> Nasra, in skype u need to select "start my video" in order for the other end to see you
[03:29] <gartral> can anyone tell me how to compile a badram kernel for a 64 bit proc, on a 32 bit proc
[03:29]  * fearful sighs
[03:29] <Keal> yes i really am visually impaired
[03:29] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, bad disk?
[03:29] <Nasra> O_o....I do all that...and nothing,..
[03:30] <Keal> and yes i prefer a gui control system rather than typing commands
[03:30] <bonez46> sprinkmeier: this is the same stuff you were helping me with the other night.
[03:30] <IntuitiveNipple> gartral: Use the gcc option -m64
[03:30] <cdenny> AH thank you musikgoat|main found the torrent
[03:30] <Keal> :(
[03:30] <Keal> i got it edited
[03:30] <cdenny> musikgoat|main 1mb/s is fun :)
[03:30] <fearful> Keal, you'll always need to run a command to edit something as root
[03:30] <Keal> now what do i do now thta i deleted that line?
[03:30] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: for sure
[03:30] <fearful> Keal, okay finally run sudo apt-get update
[03:30] <cdenny> musikgoat|main marry me
[03:30] <Nasra> O_o   >>>> start conferencing call?
[03:30] <fearful> Keal, you need a terminal
[03:31] <musikgoat|main> lol
[03:31] <cdenny> musikgoat|main but really, i have problmes
[03:31] <casdf> can anyone help me with setting up xnvc?
[03:31] <O__o> Nasra, what do u mean?
[03:31] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, memory hazy... is that the 4.something you wanted to update to 8?
[03:31] <cdenny> musikgoat|main for example, I install a new os once a week
[03:31] <Frijolie> anyone know if you can edit hal-mtab? I think I've read that it gets created dynamically
[03:31] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: non-commital and you want to get married :-P
[03:31] <O__o> Nasra, i am O__o not O_o
[03:31] <cdenny> musikgoat|main  Im hoping ubuntu will keep my interest for a while
[03:32] <cdenny> musikgoat|main i never said for how long
[03:32] <musikgoat|main> heh
[03:32] <bonez46> no.. this is a newer box.. into which I want to install several hard drives.. drives from older machines..
[03:32] <Keal> i have no idea what it just did
[03:32] <fearful> Keal, a lot of lines came up with %?
[03:32] <Keal> says ... Done after
[03:32] <Guest43383> where can I get help to create dialup networking for my EC325 Huwei wireless modem
[03:32] <cdenny> musikgoat|main  but then again, windows is just boring, and it sucks that i know everything
[03:32] <cdenny> musikgoat|main im what people call savant
[03:33] <musikgoat|main> ok, well, i say learn to vm then
[03:33] <cdenny> musikgoat|main but its ok, im not like rainman, im not good with numbers
[03:33] <n8tuserf> Guest43383-> use google to search for such assistance?
[03:33] <fearful> Keal, okay you just updated what you modified from the sources.list file, now in the same terminal you can type sudo apt-get install wine and you will have the current stable version.
[03:33] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, "drives from older machines" might be flaky. SMART?
[03:33] <cdenny> musikgoat|main sorry for bothering you i cant help it
[03:33] <musikgoat|main> cdenny: all good
[03:33] <albertolempira>  hey guys i'm trying to share two folders between my laptop and desktop (both running intrepid) but there's no way I can browse through the "shared" folders i always get a "could not mount" message, is there somebody who know what could be happening? thx
[03:34] <Guest43383> EC325 is the only thing I have to connect to the Internet and just for connectivity I had to come back to Windows
[03:34] <O__o> albertolempira, uses ssh to share files, much easier
[03:34] <samd> fearful, he must update index list after modifing sources.list, with sudo apt-get update
[03:34] <sprinkmeier> bonez46, (i.e. "run a SMART test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. )
[03:34] <Keal> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 14 not upgraded
[03:34] <fearful> samd, I know, I told him to run it and he got freaked out with the output thats all
[03:34] <samd> fearful, oh, alright
[03:35] <samd> fearful, my bad sry
[03:35] <fearful> Keal, I'm sorry first you have to remove the current version; sudo apt-get purge wine
[03:35] <tritium> fearful: if he prefers gui, perhaps you should teach him to use synaptic package manager
[03:35] <danbhfive_jaunty> Keal: maybe this will interest you: http://vinux.org.uk/
[03:35] <albertolempira> O__o, do I have to install something? I've never used ssh before...
[03:35] <fearful> tritium, Keal or use synaptic System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager ;)
[03:35] <Keal> i did wine --version and it still says 1.1.17
[03:36] <sprinkmeier> albertolempira, ssh client should be installed by default. ssh server isn't, add via synaptic or similar
[03:36] <O__o> albertolempira, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:36] <fearful> Keal, open the Synaptic package manager and search for wine and then right click hit 'completely remove' and then when thats done re-install it
[03:37] <tritium> fearful: thanks for working with him, and kudos to you for your patience
[03:37] <tritium> Good night.
[03:37] <Keal> i don't think ubuntu 8.10 really is a stable release, it keeps changing its behavior every time i come back from either level 4 power save or hibernate
[03:37] <albertolempira> O__o, thanks, i guess i should find some info on the web
[03:37] <fearful> tritium, :) thanks
[03:37] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[03:37] <Droopsta915> I have always used Ubuntu, I'm curious, has anyone use Kubuntu and is it any good?
[03:38] <albertolempira> sprinkmeier, thx
[03:38] <fearful> Droopsta915, yes Kubuntu is ubuntu using the KDE window manager, it's nice give it a try you can install it on ubuntu by "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:38] <Nith> can anyone get me started on reading raw from the USB?
[03:38] <jcmoney> hi i had a usb hard drive that i was using (ntfs file system) and now it wont mount, when i fdisk -l it shows up with /dev/sdb with no volumes listed   any thoughts?
[03:38] <Frijolie> scratch_: ?
[03:39] <sprinkmeier> Nith, "reading RAW"? you mean take an image? I'd recommend dd_rescue
[03:39] <Frijolie> srpinkmeier: remember my volume label issue?
[03:39] <samd> Droopsta915, kubuntu in my opinion is as good as ubuntu, just diferent interface (kde instead of gnome)
[03:39] <Frijolie> er sprinkmeier, ^^
[03:39] <Nith> sprinkmeier: I mean I want to see the bytes as the usb device produces them
[03:39] <sprinkmeier> Frijolie, yes
[03:39] <Keal> as i said i don't think ubuntu 8.10 amd64 actually is a stable release because it keeps changing its behavior from before everytime i return from either hibernate or level 4 power save
[03:39] <samd> Droopsta915, if your happy with gnome, id recomend to stick with gnome
[03:39] <Frijolie> sprinkmeier, FIXED! Changed "SANSA FUZE" to "SANSA_FUZE"
[03:40] <sprinkmeier> Nith, I know that windows has some USB-spy apps that let you look at raw traffic. Don;'t know it there's an equivalent for Linux yet.
[03:40] <n8tuserf> Nith-> this is not the place for it, visit #c perhaps on how to code  raw packets or sockets
[03:40] <musikgoat|main> Keal: either version of ubuntu's OS is going to be troublesome for certain motherboards,  its all dependent on the motherboard... sometimes BIOS updates fix those troubles
[03:40] <sprinkmeier> Frijolie, ARGH... space in the label?
[03:40] <Nith> n8tuserf: thanks
[03:41] <Nith> sprinkmeier: thanks
[03:41] <Frijolie> sprinkmeier, yes, I guess Windblows thinks it's ok for a space, Linux doesn't
[03:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Nith: see usbmon, kernel
[03:41] <Droopsta915> samd:Yes, I like gnome, i'll stick to it. What about edubuntu? I want to install Linux on my 7 year old's laptop, anyone ever try Edubuntu?
[03:42] <O__o> Droopsta915, try xubuntu
[03:42] <samd> Droopsta915, edubuntu should be the same as ubuntu but with educational software preinstalled
[03:42] <O__o> Droopsta915, personally i think xubuntu's interface is nicer than kubuntu or ubuntu
[03:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Nith: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/usb/usbmon.txt;h=270481906dc80d1b25a0c29f607ef55e83ae16be;hb=HEAD
[03:42] <sprinkmeier> Frijolie, sounds like someone wrote a udev hook script or something and forgot to escape spaces.
[03:42] <sprinkmeier> Droopsta915, 7 years old? try Xubuntu, lightest window manager. edubuntu uses gnome which might be too heavy for a 7yo
[03:42] <Frijolie> 0__o, he said 7-year-old's laptop, not my 7-year-old laptop
[03:42] <samd> Droopsta915, havnt tried myself, but looks good for a small kid
[03:43] <Frijolie> sprinkmeier: or something...
[03:43] <Keal> musikgoat|main if i had known that last saturday i wouldn't have wasted everyone in winehq's time with inquiries about what is bugs and what isn't nor wasted everyone in ubuntu's time on reverting due to a glitch that apparently is a kernel/mobo issue not a software version issue
[03:43] <Keal> :< vsorry
[03:43] <Nith> IntuitiveNipple: this is perfect!
[03:43] <Nith> IntuitiveNipple: thanks :)
[03:43] <musikgoat|main> Keal: yeah but did you learn things?
[03:43] <Keal> yes i did
[03:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Nith: you're welcome
[03:43] <O__o> keal, wht are u trying to run with wine? which game?
[03:44] <Droopsta915> He gets his way around Windows XP pretty good, but I want to start him early on Linux :)
[03:44] <Keal> musikgoat|main and man_in_shack must be about ready to order a hit on me by now >.<
[03:44] <musikgoat|main> Keal: i'm just guessing by the way,  i could be wrong,  but most suspend/sleep issues are due to that kind of trouble...
[03:44] <Frijolie> Droopsta915: hat's off to ya
[03:44] <Keal> btw xchat is horrible, this is why i wanted to use mirc under wine
[03:45] <samd> Dropsta915, yeah, if he starts with linux now, with kids curiosity , imagine him in a few years xD
[03:45] <O__o> xchat is better than mirc
[03:45] <Frijolie> Keal, I'm on XChat right now. I dig it
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> Keal: you'll learn that most windows apps in wine are not as good as the linux versions,  they will just take some getting used to
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> !better
[03:45] <sprinkmeier> Droopsta915, I started my kids on linux, with dual-boot XP for the tonka games. Now they're familiar/comfortable with both.
[03:45] <Droopsta915> So from what I see, instead of using Edubuntu, or Kubuntu, or Xubuntu, I can stick with Ubuntu and get the educational software Edubuntu has and install it in Ubuntu?
[03:46] <Keal> xchat simply doesn't suit my needs, when i claim it is horrible, i mean xchat is horrible at suiting my personal needs and interests
[03:46] <sprinkmeier> Droopsta915, yes.
[03:46] <O__o> Keal, what is your need?
[03:46] <samd> Droopsta915, yep, thats right
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> heh, there you go...  have you tried pidgin?
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> its got some irc plugins that make it pretty useful
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Droopsta915: correct
[03:46] <Keal> Keal first off i need a dynamic scripting system inline that can be manipulated in real time that is lowlevel within the applet itself
[03:47] <Keal> sorry chat program not applet
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Droopsta915: you can also have them all in the ame install
[03:47] <sebsebseb> in the same install
[03:47] <lstarnes> musikgoat|main: pidgin has incomplete irc support compared to most other irc clients
[03:47] <Keal> also tcl, perl, and whatever the other one were, do not fit this description
[03:47] <XtrHotMarSpy> sprinkmeier, if you can use one gui, you can use them all.
[03:47] <cdenny> i have 500gb, should i have partition os/apps and one for data?
[03:47] <cdenny> or just all one partition
[03:47] <Droopsta915> Cool, I guess i'll mess with the others in VBox just to see whats up. Thanks everyone, have a good night. And if you have kids, why not let'em get into theLinux world while they are young. :)
[03:48] <Keal> mirc has pretty reliable DWIM built in for example
[03:48] <samd> Droopsta915, ight, g'night, have fun!!
[03:48] <O__o> Keal, i dont know, i only uses xchat to just chat
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Droopsta915: Edubuntu is for schools, don't bother with it for a home computer,  just install the two suites and what not and Tuxpaint :)  in a standard Ubuntu install
[03:48] <Frijolie> cdenny, I make custom partitions
[03:48] <Keal> i used mirc for more than just chat
[03:48] <cdenny> Frijolie after install?
[03:48] <Guest43383> i use Opera for everything
[03:48] <cdenny> Frijolie or during?
[03:49] <Keal> thus why i find xchat so repulsive, all it is is a chat program
[03:49] <Frijolie> cdenny, oh, already after install
[03:49] <O__o> Keal, what do u do in irc??
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> lstarnes: yeah, true
[03:49] <Jeruvy> cdenny: its a good idea to break /home out for easy backups, additionally any other partitions that may have specific backup needs.
[03:49] <Frijolie> cdenny, no, I was referring to during install
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> O__o: heards botnets :-P
[03:49] <Keal> my personal scripts for mirc of which i wrote entirely myself are 90% the added functionality to mirc
[03:49] <cdenny> im assuming it gives me an option during install?
[03:49] <Guest43383> I use bitlbee IM to connect to all my jabber accounts
[03:49] <XtrHotMarSpy> saying "my kid can use linux and windows and mac" is the same as saying "my kid can drive a ford, a toyota, or a kia"
[03:50] <Frijolie> cdenny, do you have an Ubuntu install currently? or are you adding a 2nd HDD to an existing Ubuntu OS?
[03:50] <Guest43383> may be that is the reason Microsoft took over Lindows
[03:50] <XtrHotMarSpy> Keal, you can write all the scripts you want for xchat, and you don't have to use some arcane scripting language.
[03:50] <cdenny> Frijolie im using windows server 2008, and just finished burning ubuntu iso.  going to install in a couple of mins
[03:50] <O__o> XtrHotMarSpy, i think it is more like driving an automatic, stick, and semi-automatic race car
[03:50] <Keal> and making a foss clone of mirc is just plain unethical due to 50% of the yearly registration fees for mirc going towards disaster relief etc
[03:50] <musikgoat|main> XtrHotMarSpy: really?  i'd think of it more as a semi, automatic and manual  respectively
[03:51] <cdenny> no!!!
[03:51] <cdenny> crap
[03:51] <cdenny> not cool
[03:51] <musikgoat|main> O__o: lol
[03:51] <XtrHotMarSpy> that was a fun netsplit
[03:51] <sebsebseb> now that was a good net split
[03:51] <musikgoat|main> theres been a few so far tonight
[03:51] <cdenny> so how do i separate /home from everything else?
[03:51] <cdenny> what is /home?
[03:51] <O__o> we should do this more often
[03:51] <cdenny> lmao
[03:51] <sebsebseb> !home
[03:51] <Keal> ok these splits are getting annoying
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> !netsplit
[03:52] <Keal> why doesn't the admins force reroute everyone onto the servers that aren't splitting?
[03:52] <XtrHotMarSpy> musikgoat|main, how do you figure? what's the difference between one gui interface and another? none that i can see.
[03:52] <XtrHotMarSpy> i had no learning curve going to other OSs that had guis
[03:52] <Jeruvy> Keal: you should ask in #freenode, not here
[03:52] <felixsulla> For a VirtualBox machine, does anyone know the difference between .vdi and .sav?
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> XtrHotMarSpy: i guess i just don't equate the OS with the gui
[03:52] <sprinkmeier> XtrHotMarSpy, the trickisn't learning multiple OSs, the trick is learning learning that multiple OS's isn't difficult (something most people who grew up with only one OS can't seem to do)
[03:52] <sebsebseb> XtrHotMarSpy: same here prety much,  well there is a tiny learning curve when it comes to installing programs
[03:53] <XtrHotMarSpy> musikgoat|main, yeah, and neither do people using a gui
[03:53] <lstarnes> Keal: there's no way to do that in the irc protocol for users who are already connectesd
[03:53] <sebsebseb> XtrHotMarSpy: ,but I just installed Fedora Core 2 after using WIndows all my life
[03:53] <lstarnes> *connected
[03:53] <cdenny> will it be pretty explanatory when installing ubuntu to separate /home?
[03:53] <musikgoat|main> XtrHotMarSpy: true
[03:53] <XtrHotMarSpy> musikgoat|main, it makes no difference to them what the OS is
[03:53] <SeViLLa> sprinkmeier: well said!!
[03:53] <shippo> quit
[03:53] <sebsebseb> cdenny: it's easier to do seperate home partitions on a clean install
[03:53] <cdenny> ok
[03:53] <sprinkmeier> SeViLLa, if slightly dyslexic...
[03:53] <O__o> cdenny, home is just a dir
[03:53] <cdenny> ok
[03:54] <cdenny> i will see if i can figure it out when i install
[03:54] <casdf> hi, is there a way to set the desktop wallpaper from the command line?
[03:54] <sebsebseb> !home
[03:54] <O__o> cdenny, /home = c:\Documents and Settings\
[03:55] <O__o> except /home can be in a new partition
[03:56] <musikgoat|main> this may be a common question, but anyone know how the usb support is, in vbox?
[03:57] <musikgoat|main> is it pretty decent for a x64 ubuntu host and xp or win-7 client?
[03:57] <Chaorain> I have an Nvidia 8700M X2 which proprietary driver do I use? 173 or 177?
[03:57] <musikgoat|main> Chaorain: try the 177
[03:58] <Chaorain> musikgoat|main, ty
[03:58] <XtrHotMarSpy> !grep
[03:58] <supertanker> On my server, my CLI screen is filled with lines of "Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason {3d|2d} on CPU 0. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue."
[03:58] <supertanker> I can't type anything without it getting overwritten
[03:59] <meanburrito920_> can anyone help me debug a /very/ simple 2d collision detection method (in python)? I know I'm missing something really obvious
[03:59] <Jeruvy> meanburrito920_: try #python
[03:59] <XtrHotMarSpy> !vi
[03:59] <XtrHotMarSpy> !man
[03:59] <meanburrito920_> Jeruvy: i did, no one responded. :(
[03:59] <hmw> meanburrito920_ pastebin the relevant code
[03:59] <samd> !code
[04:00] <Jeruvy> XtrHotMarSpy: please play with ubottu in #ubuntu-bots
[04:00] <musikgoat|main> Chaorain: nvidia has specific hardware support on their site corresponding to the driver release, but (at least for 8 series) the later the release the better
[04:00] <XtrHotMarSpy> ok
[04:00] <meanburrito920_> http://pastebin.com/m7540d445
[04:00] <meanburrito920_> theres the code
[04:00] <Keal> musikgoat|main i have a package arriving tomorrow, it is a replacement ac adapter, that way unbuntu will stop going into level 4 power save :|
[04:00] <Keal> :D
[04:01] <musikgoat|main> Keal: laptop? whats the manufacturer?
[04:01] <Keal> compaq presario r4025us, ubuntu works like crap on it
[04:01] <Keal> it is a rare laptop model
[04:01] <Chaorain> musikgoat|main, ty
[04:01] <Keal> ubuntu didn't work at all until 8.10
[04:01] <Keal> i am using the amd64 8.10
[04:01] <hmw> meanburrito920_ I don't know Python, but it might be a problem with operator priorities. Look up, if OR is higher than greater/less than. Try encapsulate it with ( and )
[04:01] <mikeshollen> I'm trying to do the Ubuntu Security update but I keep getting this error message, why?     W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/ffmpeg/libpostproc1d_0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7.2_i386.deb
[04:01] <mikeshollen>   Size mismatch
[04:02] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: sudo apt-get update?
[04:02] <hmw> meanburrito920_ http://pastebin.com/m73239be3
[04:02] <musikgoat|main> have you done that since the error?
[04:03] <Keal> musikgoat|main one reason ubuntu is acting so cracked out is it keeps coming back from level 4 power save :/
[04:03] <cdenny> should i use ahci or ide when installing ubuntun
[04:03] <meanburrito920_> hmw: no such luck
[04:04] <Keal> i plan to replace the battery as well next month
[04:04] <cdenny> ahci or ide?
[04:04] <Keal> the battery and ac adaper are roughly 5 years old
[04:04] <sprockets2000> anyone know of a reliable way to find out your displays refresh rate not in docuentation of notebook nor on website
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> keal, yeah, and the bios of the motherboard talks to ubuntu to do that, but hp doesn't even offer a bios update for that mobo
[04:04] <cdenny> please, i have like 10 seconds
[04:04] <mikeshollen> sudo apt-get update worked, why?
[04:05] <cdenny> ok ahci it is, i will install then be back after its working
[04:05] <cdenny> goodbye
[04:05] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: your repo indexes were a bit old
[04:05] <Keal> musikgoat|main that is because there is no bios update for it as far as i know and never was
[04:05] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: something got updated in the online versions since you last got the indexes
[04:05] <mikeshollen> gotcha, thank you sir
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: if you are using synaptic, the refresh button does the same thing
[04:06] <Keal> musikgoat|main the only update was an amd64 pseudo-driver
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> Keal: and your cd-rom firmware
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> Keal: as the website seems to say at least
[04:07] <Keal> never saw on the hp site about a cdrom firmware
[04:08] <Keal> my laptop used to be a display model btw, so possibly all firmwares were already updated by the time i obtained the machine
[04:08] <supertanker> On my server, my CLI screen is filled with lines of "Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason {3d|2d} on CPU 0. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue."
[04:08] <supertanker> I can't type anything without it getting overwritten
[04:09] <Keal> when i obtained this laptop it was already a discontinued product
[04:09] <LogicFan> is it ok to use jaunty repos with intrepid to install software that doesn't have debs for intrepid?
[04:09] <casdf> how do you set wallpapers in ubuntu. sys/prefs/appearances isnt updating the desktop
[04:09] <Keal> and i got it mint as a display model
[04:09] <LogicFan> i'm just wondering why some software would be available in the jaunty repos and not intrepid
[04:09] <Keal> often i buy the display model for a steep discount when a product is discontinued
[04:10] <Jeruvy> supertanker: try this for info..: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424927
[04:10] <casdf> these are just really annoying bugs that are screwing up new user experience...
[04:10] <Keal> this is the second time the display model was the last of the product left in inventory when i purchased such
[04:10] <Bi_bRo_pklg> hi
[04:10] <KD7SPO-rod> www.ubuntu.com
[04:10] <supertanker> Jeruvy, thanks
[04:10] <LogicFan> casdf, right-click on the desktop and select "change background...
[04:11] <IntuitiveNipple> sprockets2000: If the monitor supports EDID you can use read-edid
[04:11] <casdf> logicfan: yeah its not actually changing when i doubleclick on anything
[04:12] <LogicFan> casdf, just selecting one of the images should auto-change it
[04:12] <LogicFan> are you clicking add, then selecting the graphic?
[04:12] <dotblank> Anyone good with dun over bluetooth
[04:12] <casdf> logicfan: yes yes done all that
[04:12] <casdf> logicfan: nothings changing the background
[04:13] <Jeruvy> casdf: sounds like a x issue, if you restart x, does it appear?
[04:13] <supertanker> Jeruvy, that report is just of others having the same problem. No actual helpful information there
[04:13] <casdf> i can still change the solid color
[04:13] <Jeruvy> supertanker: hmm, there are bugs logged on launchpad too, you could see if there is any update
[04:13] <ltsmooth42> is there any way to read ext4 from 8.10 yet?
[04:14] <supertanker> Jeruvy, this is an older system, I'm probably going to take the entire rig out of this case and put in my P4 mobo and gear. I was just curious if there was any quick fix
[04:14] <musikgoat|main> ltsmooth42: last i heard, its only backported to the .28 kernel, which isn't going to be used in 8.10
[04:14] <ltsmooth42> alright
[04:14] <musikgoat|main> ltsmooth42: i haven't checked though
[04:15] <fearful> good night ubuntu people.
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> lately
[04:15] <LogicFan> is it possible to add jaunty repos to an intrepid installation and install jaunty debs?
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> LogicFan: thats not advisable, its going to cause all sorts of issues
[04:16] <crdlb> LogicFan: no
[04:16] <LogicFan> thanks
[04:16] <Jeruvy> supertanker: from launchpad: Running 2.6.27-10-generic (in intrepid-proposed) seems to have stopped the error.
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> LogicFan: but you can run jaunty alpha ;-)
[04:16] <Keal> bt musikgoat|main i may potentially become ubuntu's sole bugtester of thiis mobo with advanced micro designs reverse compatible quad-core athlon64 that fits in the same socket supposedly due to come out by mid december
[04:17] <LogicFan> what's are the best practices for installing software that doesn't have intrepid debs, but does have jaunty debs?
[04:17] <casdf> jeruvy: i restarted x, but its still only displaying the background solid color...
[04:17] <Bearcat> hey folks, i'm losing my mind. I'm trying to get a pixmap gtk2 theme working and i can't get any apps to use it. I've coped the theme to /usr/share/themes and the gtkrc file to ~/  What else would i have to do. (note, i'm not using gnome, i just want some matching gtk apps in kde)
[04:17] <musikgoat|main> Keal: get familiar with launchpad.net then :-P
[04:17] <ruel> can I know what IRC clients you people are using?
[04:18] <ruel> in ubuntu ofc
[04:18] <supertanker> ruel, X-Chat/IRSSI
[04:18] <LogicFan> xchat
[04:18] <crdlb> Bearcat: that's not how you do it
[04:18] <ruel> k kewl thanls
[04:18] <Keal> so musikgoat|main that gives you guys 9 months to help me get to know ubuntu inside-and-out like the back of my hand in order to properly and adequately bugtest this mobo with the new cpu coming out
[04:18] <ruel> thanks*
[04:18] <Bearcat> crdlb: oh? Teach me oh wise one :")
[04:18] <crdlb> Bearcat: first of all, I believe kde has support for setting the gtk theme
[04:18] <supertanker> Is there any way to at least stop console messages from flooding out my CLI screen?
[04:18] <musikgoat|main> Keal: you will get far by reading some of the many ubuntu guides out there for various common things
[04:19] <Keal> musikgoat|main by next month i will have hopefully learned like the back of my hand how to properly service this laptop
[04:19] <crdlb> Bearcat: if it doesn't, you can use switch2 from the gtk-theme-switch package, which writes gtk-theme-name to ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[04:19] <Bearcat> crdlb: well the idea is that soon i will be using neither kde or gnome.
[04:19] <Bearcat> crdlb: ahh
[04:19] <crdlb> also, you can put themes in ~/.themes/ instead of doing it systemwide
[04:20] <yeason> the problem I have seems to be very common yet none of the fixes I've found so far work. My networking suddenly stopped working on my computer
[04:20] <Bearcat> crdlb: right, but i'd rather it were system wide
[04:20] <dotblank> Wondering if any treo users have gotten the pone to sync over bluetooth
[04:20] <dotblank> http://howto.pilot-link.org/bluesync/index.html
[04:20] <Bearcat> crdlb: thanks. I'll try that
[04:20] <oscar> what is the best tool for connecting doing a remote desktop to a ubuntu machine
[04:20] <Keal> right now this laptop has an after-market keyboard that is inferior to the factory keyboard that the warranty repair center did an unauthorized unneccarry replacement on
[04:20] <yeason> Does anybody know of any fixes? I've tried stopping networkmanager, editing resolv.conf, running dhclient just times out
[04:21] <Keal> i plan to swap out the keyboard with the factory one later on
[04:21] <Jeruvy> !rdp | oscar
[04:21] <Keal> because the after market one has serious design flaws
[04:21] <Keal> for example the sensors aren't sensitive enough and the bus speed is too slow
[04:22] <Keal> the factory keyboard didn't have those two isues
[04:22] <Jeruvy> oscar: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[04:22] <gbear14275> I just saw something really new... in shell was coming out of an su session when I saw: exit [new line] you have mail in /var/mail/username... what is that?  and now after googling some... how do i read it
[04:23] <Jeruvy> gbear14275: you can create a mbox account 'user@machine' to check and read local mail
[04:23] <sunniq> hello... good morning...
[04:23] <Keal> musikgoat|main i won't be able to let you remote my laptop until after my package arrives in the mail tomorrow
[04:23] <sunniq> anybody home?
[04:23] <WhyWontThisWork> Hey, so I'm trying to install ubuntu but the migration assistant in 8.10 fails (ubiquity crashes) any ideas to get this to work?
[04:23] <Keal> otherwise it will be too unstable
[04:23] <musikgoat|main> keal, i'm not remoting into your desktop
[04:23] <oscar> thanks.
[04:23] <Keal> then ?
[04:23] <Guest43383> WhyWontThisWork: may be harddisk is full
[04:24] <WhyWontThisWork> its got 10 gigs for home and 13 for the main system
[04:24] <Keal> what was that remote desktop link then?
[04:24] <WhyWontThisWork> guest43383 its got 10 gigs for home and 13 for the main system
[04:24] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: The 'best practice' is to back-port the package
[04:24] <musikgoat|main> Keal: i was giving instructions to someone else about accessing his two ubuntu machines
[04:24] <Guest43383> WhyWontThisWork: if you are trying different distros there is a possibility of having lot of files without your knowledge
[04:24] <Keal> oh ok sorry
[04:25] <Guest43383> WhyWontThisWork: it is my experience
[04:25] <musikgoat|main> Keal: heh, no, i'm not a fan of giving help that way, most people learn by doing
[04:25] <LogicFan> IntuitiveNipple, thanks, i'm reading that now.  is that something easy to accomplish?  or, i imagine it depends on the app in question?
[04:25] <mimiloon> hi everybody, can anybody help me please? i have an issue with my sound card (HDA Intel) and that is i an hear the sound from the speakers and the headphone but when i plug in the headphones, i can still hear from the main speakers. i'm using ubuntu 8.1
[04:25] <WhyWontThisWork> guest43383 so how much does this need for a clean install and how do I shut the migration assistant
[04:25] <Keal> i thoght you meant you were asking if you could take a peek directly at my hardware etc :/
[04:25] <Keal> for diagnostics for your own use
[04:26] <Bearcat> crdlb: what would the manual option be? i dont have gtk-theme-switch avail.
[04:26] <musikgoat|main> Keal: nope
[04:26] <Keal> ok nm ^-^''
[04:26] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: Yeah... generally, if you've not done debian packaging before, it is a steep and slippery learning curve :)
[04:26] <cthompson__> how do I install a deb via terminal?
[04:26] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: What's the package?
[04:26] <gbear14275> Jeruvy: is this something setup by default... I don't recall thinking we had and mbox mail setup...
[04:26]  * crink using ext4 \0/
[04:26] <LogicFan> Calibre ebook manager/reader
[04:26] <crdlb> Bearcat: you don't have a gtk-theme-switch package in the repos?
[04:27] <musikgoat|main> cthompson_dpkg -i app   but it could be in a repo
[04:27] <Jeruvy> gbear14275: if you installed sendmail or postfix then you can
[04:27] <Jeruvy> gbear14275: otherwise I'm not sure how you'd do it.
[04:27] <Bearcat> crdlb: i'm not a ubuntu user, i'm using sourcemage
[04:28] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: might be able to do it easily. worth a go :)
[04:28] <meglo> How come I can't access a VNC server with tsclient or vinagre? Vinagre is too simple and wont let me specify a password for the VNC server, but tsclient will only let me input a username(but there is no username for the server).
[04:28] <crdlb> Bearcat: don't they have a channel? :/
[04:28] <Bearcat> crdlb: they do but...
[04:28] <Bearcat> crdlb: finally someone who uses gtk stuff :")
[04:28] <WhyWontThisWork> guest43383 so how much does this need for a clean install and how do I shut the migration assistant
[04:28] <Bearcat> crdlb: i think i just figured it out
[04:28] <crdlb> Bearcat: #gtk+ on irc.gnome.org
[04:28] <musikgoat|main> meglo: vinagre only requests a password if the vnc server requires it
[04:29] <ShinyHat> i am having trouble with update manager- very slow, but when pinging to find the best repository it freezes
[04:29] <musikgoat|main> meglo: what are you trying to control?
[04:29] <Bearcat> crdlb: thanks. I'll check there next. I appreciate the help
[04:29] <LogicFan> IntuitiveNipple, thanks, i'll read a little more to see if i'm up to the challenge :)
[04:29] <meglo> musikgoat|main, I'm trying to vnc into my friend's window machine to try it out.
[04:29] <meglo> musikgoat|main, I'm not sure what server software he is using.
[04:30] <gbear14275> niether of those... we are using exim i think
[04:30] <musikgoat|main> meglo: on windows, install tightvnc service, it works with any vnc client, like vinagre
[04:30] <mimiloon> can anybody help me please? i have an issue with my sound card (HDA Intel) and that is i an hear the sound from the speakers and the headphone but when i plug in the headphones, i can still hear from the main speakers. i'm using ubuntu 8.1
[04:30] <Keal> musikgoat|main it vnc compatible with vpn?
[04:30] <musikgoat|main> meglo: seems like the vnc server, if any is on that windows computer (they are not in there by default)
[04:30] <meglo> musikgoat|main, i can ask him to do that. But he claims he turned off the password requirement(I know) and the same error still occurs "Connection to host 'hisserver' was closed."
[04:30] <musikgoat|main> is funky
[04:31] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: I'm trying it now
[04:31] <musikgoat|main> meglo: vnc is not secure traffic, and it can be run over vpn
[04:31] <meglo> musikgoat|main, well ok, I'll talk to him about it.
[04:31] <musikgoat|main> sorry, keal ^^
[04:31] <meglo> musikgoat|main, yes I know, but he/they don't really care and it isn't my problem.
[04:31] <meglo> musikgoat|main, sshd is 'too hard' for them :\
[04:31] <musikgoat|main> meglo: he may have for windows remote desktop, which is not vnc (vinagre) compatible
[04:32] <meglo> musikgoat|main, yes I'll see if they'll go for rdp
[04:32] <musikgoat|main> meglo: tsclient is, but every windows computer has a username, even if the user doesn't know it
[04:32] <ruel> any body got an idea of an open source application to write?
[04:32] <musikgoat|main> check in c:/documents and settings/ or c:/users
[04:32] <ShinyHat> anyone feel like helping me? i am having trouble with update manager- very slow, but when pinging to find the best repository it freezes
[04:32] <ruel> %USERPROFILE%
[04:32] <mercutio22> I am having a very weird problem I can't input accents in a few applications, like texmaker and kile. I can in openoffice.org and gedit for instance. Does anyone have a clue what might be happening?
[04:33] <oscar> ruel: are you looking for a text editor or something more full featured
[04:33] <meglo> musikgoat|main, I think there is a miscommunication here, I don't control the box I'm trying to vnc into.
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: pick on close, where are you?
[04:33] <oscar> nevermind
[04:33] <ShinyHat> NW washington
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> meglo: i was referring to your friend
[04:33] <Keal> musikgoat|main for some reason my router had the same username as my computer :/
[04:33] <ruel> xD
[04:33] <ruel> ShinyHat: are you in a shared connection?
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: find a university or something in the list thats close
[04:33] <meglo> musikgoat|main, oh sorry.
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> meglo: no worries
[04:34] <cyberjorge> hi
[04:34] <Socrates> Hello, I recently installed 8.10 using the CD. Previously I had 8.04 installed. During the installation I used the total format option. I did not select any partitions. Yet when I use the program called 'GParted" it says that I have /dev/sda1 ext 3, /dev/sda2/extended and /dev/sda5 linux-swap. What are the latter two (i.e. sda2 &sda5)?
[04:34] <musikgoat|main> meglo: i wasn't clear
[04:34] <Socrates> Do sda2 and sda5 contain anything of mine on them?
[04:34] <ShinyHat> ruel: not shared to a point that would make a difference
[04:35] <musikgoat|main> !swap | socrates
[04:35] <ruel> ShinyHat: well, I suggest try other repos.. :)
[04:35] <cyberjorge> i have a pos software that has a lock emblem, how do i make it accessible not only via root?
[04:35] <Keal> Socrates swap has nothing important in it but should be retained as swap
[04:35] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: im on mit right now
[04:35] <Anna_111>  Socrates, /dev/sda2/extended is your logical partition of your hdd
[04:35] <Socrates> What about sda2 extended
[04:35] <Socrates> What does it do?
[04:35] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: yeah thats across the US
[04:36] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: its ranging between 1k and 100k
[04:36] <Anna_111>  tha partitions are for / home and linux-swap
[04:36] <musikgoat|main> Socrates: that is just a logical extension to the partition system, i don't know why they do it that way but it doesn't have any of your system data on it
[04:36] <Rosalia> necesito registrarme para jugar en tragaperras
[04:36] <ruel> Socrates: maybe that's a boot partition, I used to have a separate partition for boot when installing dfferent distros
[04:36] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: when i tell it to find the best source, it freezes while pinging- what is that about?
[04:36] <Rosalia> como hago ahora?
[04:36] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: check for canadian locations as well there might be one with less hops to get to your home
[04:37] <Socrates> Could it be something left over from 8.04?? How would I find out?
[04:37] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: my guess is that its trying to hit something, not getting a response it desires and choking, but i don't know for sure.
[04:37] <Keal> ShinyHat do you live in quebec?
[04:37] <r33tfux0r> Good Evening all
[04:38] <XtrHotMarSpy> poutine!
[04:38] <ShinyHat> Keal: no, NW washington
[04:38] <ruel> Socrates: did you used the whole disk while installing 8.10?
[04:38] <jtaji> Socrates: no, it's just a container for logical partitions, ignore it
[04:38] <Guest43383> musikgoat|main:  does that mean we create an exclusive partition to boot ?
[04:38] <sebsebseb>  
[04:38] <sdasdas> Hi, id like to make a video with some pics and some music, what program could i use?
[04:39] <Guest43383> I am having trouble with multiple linux distros overtaking each other in grub loader
[04:39] <skyl> how can I give apache write access to a certain dir?
[04:39] <Socrates> Okay, thanks jtaji. I have no idea what a logical partition is but I'll forget about it. Although it is 1.25GB. Is that normal? My total drive is about 80GB.
[04:39] <XtrHotMarSpy> skyl, set the permissions to 777
[04:39] <musikgoat|main> Guest43383: i'm not quite sure of the default partition layout for a deskotp, but i think /boot is included in the root file system
[04:40] <skyl> XtrHotMarSpy that seems a little extreme
[04:40] <mercutio22> ??
[04:40] <XtrHotMarSpy> skyl, well it works
[04:40] <skyl> XtrHotMarSpy indeed
[04:40] <XtrHotMarSpy> chmod 777
[04:40] <musikgoat|main> Guest43383: but grub, the boot loader is likely written to the mbr
[04:40] <jtaji> Socrates: it contians the sda5, which is your swap, it is 1.25GB
[04:40] <ruel> skyl: changing its permission to 777 is risky
[04:40] <mercutio22> can it be some problem with my locale settings?
[04:41] <ruel> skyl: try using chown
[04:41] <Socrates> Oh, so sda2 contains sda5?
[04:41] <musikgoat|main> Socrates: thats the best way to think about it
[04:41] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: thanks for the tips, i'll try manually choosing something more local :)
[04:41] <Socrates> Cool.
[04:41] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel, yeah but that's why we all run linux. if we get compromised, we just reinstall
[04:41] <Keal> my swap is 60gb
[04:41] <musikgoat|main> keal thats way too much
[04:41] <Keal> not really
[04:42] <cjae> Hi, my g/f and I are trying to use klavero typing tutor and it has been set to the wrong language and was wondering if someone here could help set it back
[04:42] <Socrates> Thank you for the very useful advice!
[04:42] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: that's a bad idea you got there :
[04:42] <ruel> :(
[04:42] <Keal> swap partitions get damaged over time
[04:42] <cjae> klavaro
[04:42] <Keal> and i plan to use this swap partition for as long as the harddrive lasts
[04:42] <ruel> !chown | skyl
[04:42] <ruel> ofuck
[04:43] <Keal> 60gb leaves a lot of sectors to be marked bad before the parition is no longer useable
[04:43] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel, celebrating st. patrick's day?
[04:43] <ruel> skyl: http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/chown/
[04:43] <__mikem> !ohmy | ruel
[04:43] <cjae> jazyk is an example of the language
[04:43] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: who's he
[04:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Keal: That is nonsense! Swap partitions don't 'get damaged' as you suggest! The underlying disk might have bad sectors but if so it'll remap them without you knowing a thing about it
[04:43] <Keal> yes and 60gb of space leaves a lot of room for remapping
[04:44] <ruel> __mikem sorry :(
[04:44] <Keal> i burn hdd's until they die
[04:44] <musikgoat|main> Keal: or you buy cheap flash ram and store swap on that
[04:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Keal: The remapping is done at the disk hardware/firmware level, it never gets seen by the operating system
[04:44] <XtrHotMarSpy> he's the patron saint of freespace, ruel
[04:44] <__mikem> ruel, nobody is perfect :)
[04:44] <Keal> i've gone though over 35 or more hdds in the past 20 years
[04:44] <Keal> just for my personal machine
[04:44] <musikgoat|main> Keal: thats pretty normal though
[04:44] <ruel> __mikem: well, I used to be on "not so polite" irc servers so xD
[04:45] <cjae> I think its czech
[04:45] <musikgoat|main> for that amount of time
[04:45] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: sorry didn't know him xD
[04:45] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel, that's why you don't have any freespace
[04:46] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: ummm.. what's your point? xD
[04:46] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel,  just answering your questions
[04:46] <durt> anyone here familiar with tvtime tell me why I'm getting ascii garbage showing up on my screen?
[04:46] <ruel> now I'm confused :(
[04:46] <mylisto> hey everyone...
[04:47] <mylisto> Does anyone know of any good desktop recorder (voice/video)?
[04:47] <ruel> durt: try using restricted drivers
[04:47] <Socrates> How would you find out if you had more than one primary partition? Would it come up in a program like Gparted?
[04:47] <XtrHotMarSpy> mylisto, sony makes a whole bunch
[04:47] <durt> ruel,  I do have 180.37 installed, it's with tvtime
[04:47] <mylisto> meant software based xtrhotmarspy:
[04:47] <mylisto> for ubuntu
[04:47] <supertanker> How does that Ubuntu Server motd work where it shows the system resources at login time?
[04:47] <jtaji> Socrates: 1 through 4 will be primary, 5 and up are logical
[04:48] <oscar> how do i set ubuntu to auto log in
[04:48] <ruel> oscar: I'm pretty sure its within the installation
[04:48] <Socrates> Oh, so sda1 and sda2 are primary. Could there be another one, a boot one, which is not coming up in Gparted?
[04:48] <binarymutant1> supertanker: try /etc/issues
[04:48] <XtrHotMarSpy> oscar, reinstall and check the auto log in box when you create your username
[04:49] <jtaji> Socrates: the default ubuntu install just has one partition for /, and one for swap, which is what you have
[04:49] <ruel> Socrates: all partitions are being shown in Gparted
[04:49] <oscar> really i have to re-install
[04:49] <aoalinux> oscar
[04:49] <oscar> i saw it but didnt think i would need it
[04:49] <ruel> oscar: well, not really.. ummm w8 a sec
[04:49] <jtaji> Socrates: but yeah you can check in gparted
[04:49] <oscar> cool thanks
[04:49] <aoalinux> no you dont hang on and ill tell you how
[04:49] <oscar> thanks
[04:49] <binarymutant1> supertanker: and /etc/motd
[04:49] <supertanker> binarydigit, thanks
[04:49] <Socrates> Good, so there is nothing more to my computer than sda1, sda2, and sda5
[04:49] <ruel> oscar: http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-automati-logon-in-ubuntu-or-kubuntu.html
[04:50] <oscar> sweet thanks.
[04:50] <ruel> np
[04:50] <aoalinux> Hey everyone, I am new here.   When I use the update manager in Ubuntu 8.10, it fails to update because it says it fails to fetch (URL) and says no public key.  What can I do about this?  Thanks
[04:50] <XtrHotMarSpy> aoalinux, connect to the internet
[04:51] <aoalinux> yes sir I am
[04:51] <aoalinux> it is able to do partial updates
[04:51] <mylisto> anyone use recordmydesktop?  I can get video but no audio to work
[04:51] <ruel> can you give the URLs that cannot be resolved?
[04:51] <aoalinux> yes there are several though?
[04:51] <ruel> mylisto: try testing your mic first
[04:51] <cjae> ok I have tried to sudo apt-get purge --remove klavaro but upon reinstall it will not let me select another language
[04:52] <ruel> aoalinux: just one I'll check
[04:52] <mylisto> mylisto:
[04:52] <mylisto> the mic works...
[04:52] <aoalinux> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[04:52] <mylisto> when I hook up my sure sm57 to my mixer then to the laptop it works fine..
[04:52] <cjae> and I have figured out that jazyk means language selection from screen shots
[04:52] <mylisto> the internal mic works fine as well
[04:53] <cjae> but now there are no other languages to select from
[04:53] <gartral> i cant get my dap to connect to usb...
[04:53] <ruel> aoalinux: just a sec
[04:53] <aoalinux> ok thanks
[04:53] <ruel> aoalinux: gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys  58403026387EE263
[04:53] <gartral> or rather, it takes a veerrrryyyy long time to see the device and mount it
[04:53] <ruel> try that
[04:54] <jtaji> aoalinux: you need the command at the bottom of this page http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[04:54] <jtaji> aoalinux: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[04:54] <cdenny> im back!
[04:54] <cdenny> in ubuntu flavor!
[04:54] <cdenny> wooho
[04:54] <aoalinux> ok thanks everyone
[04:54] <aoalinux> that worked
[04:55] <Socrates> I have the VIA P4M800 Pro chipset. Is it still the case that there is no good driver for this integrated graphics engine?
[04:55] <Socrates> I read something about UniChrome but it seems dodgy.
[04:56] <ruel> check the restricted drivers in System>Administration
[04:56] <idhan> hi
[04:57] <abchirk> hi
[04:57] <Socrates> System>Admin then what? There is only something called Hardware Drivers and it's empty.
[04:58] <cjae> !wgetpaste
[04:58] <cjae> !info wgetpaste
[04:58] <cjae> ! info wgetpaste
[04:59] <cjae> ?
[04:59] <ruel> cjae: I suggest you manually download, configure and install that package
[04:59] <jtaji> Socrates: that's a fair assessment
[04:59] <cjae> ruel: its not in ubuntu is it
[04:59] <jtaji> Socrates: it's pretty hopeless for Linux at this point
[05:00] <cdenny> whats hopeless for linux
[05:00] <ruel> its not included in the repository
[05:00] <ruel> but you can try installing it
[05:00] <keepsake> Hi, can someone tell me how I can do full upgrades instead of Partial Upgrades?
[05:00] <ruel> http://wgetpaste.zlin.dk/wgetpaste-2.12.bz2
[05:00] <cjae> ah
[05:00] <jtaji> Socrates: does 2d work though?
[05:00] <ruel> then do, 'tar xfjv wgetpaste-2.12.bz2'
[05:01] <ruel> cd wgetpaste-2.12
[05:01] <ruel> ./configure
[05:01] <ruel> make
[05:01] <ruel> make install
[05:01] <ruel> :p
[05:01] <FloodBot2> ruel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <Socrates> I can't use desktop effects. WHich I would like to.
[05:01] <jtaji> cdenny: 3d drivers for VIA graphics
[05:01] <ruel> Socrates, I suggest compiz-fusion
[05:01] <Socrates> What is compiz-fusion?
[05:02] <keepsake> Socrates: Compiz has a lot of problems with various graphics drivers though, so keep that in mind.
[05:02] <Socrates> A driver?
[05:02] <cdenny> when i try to do "extra" visual effects the title bar for all windows disappears
[05:02] <Keal> ruel use \n instead :P
[05:02] <O__o> compiz-fusion is a nice eye candy
[05:02] <cdenny> i have an ati hd4830
[05:02] <ruel> sorry Keal
[05:02] <ruel> xD
[05:02] <Socrates> Oh, it's a card?
[05:02] <jtaji> Socrates: it's the built-in desktop effects, but you need a working 3d driver
[05:02] <cdenny> using ati drivers
[05:02] <ruel> Socrates: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[05:02] <Socrates> Thanks I'll look at that.
[05:02] <ruel> better that vista's desktop effects
[05:02] <Keal> what is compiz?
[05:03] <jtaji> ruel, cdenny: are you guys following at all?
[05:03] <keepsake> !compiz | Keal
[05:03] <jtaji> he has VIA graphics, no working 3d driver
[05:03] <cdenny> jtaji: my problem is different
[05:03] <cdenny> jtaji: so yes, i am
[05:03] <keepsake> !info compiz | Keal
[05:03] <O__o> Socrates, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbV0729Regg this is compiz
[05:04] <jtaji> cdenny: I didn't notice you were dealing with a similar problem ;)
[05:04] <cdenny> jtaji: when I click "extra" effects the title bar disappears on all windows
[05:04] <Keal> why would anyone want compiz? i have gnome
[05:04] <ruel> jtaji: sorry bout that :\
[05:04] <O__o> Keal, because compiz is nice
[05:04] <ruel> Keal: gnome and compiz can work together
[05:04] <cdenny> jtaji: brb, gotta restart just finished updating
[05:04] <jtaji> ruel: no worries ;)
[05:04] <ruel> xD
[05:04] <keepsake> Keal: Compiz-fusion gives you some desktop effects. It looks nice, but has problems with some graphics drivers.
[05:04] <c0l2e> currently my newly install ubuntu server has the us.ubuntu in source.list
[05:05] <O__o> the newest compiz has desktop earth effect
[05:05] <keepsake> Keal: Actually I'd suggest just stay without fancy graphics >>
[05:05] <Keal> ruel but can they still be friends after the affair ends?
[05:05] <Keal> :P
[05:05] <ruel> yeah xD
[05:05] <c0l2e> how can I replace that with the one that faster in the philippines?
[05:05] <c0l2e> i think the ph.ubuntu
[05:05] <ruel> where are you in ph?
[05:05] <ruel> im rom ph btw
[05:05] <ruel> from*
[05:05] <cjae> tipptrainner is pooched too! wow
[05:06] <cjae> !typing
[05:06] <Keal> holy crap i am eating my pillow because i was eating while typing :/
[05:06] <cjae> neither does ubuntu
[05:06] <cjae> :p
[05:06] <mercutio22> I am having problen using accents in qt apps. Can someone help me fix this?
[05:06] <O__o> Keal, good 4 u
[05:06] <sophia> #opengl
[05:06] <ruel> c0l2e: did you just installed a server version of ubuntu ina desktop pc or..?
[05:07] <c0l2e> ruel: using vmware
[05:07] <ruel> c0l2e: why are you using the server version anyway? :p
[05:07] <c0l2e> ruel: I just want to have the package list source.list to get packages using the ph.ubuntu not the us.ubuntu
[05:07] <Socrates> What's the terminal command to list all your drives?
[05:07] <O__o> although i live in canada, i find that the us server is faster than canadian server
[05:08] <c0l2e> ruel: coz It's faster.. and I intend to use it as a server
[05:08] <O__o> maybe ubuntu has more server and better server in us than in ca?
[05:08] <jtaji> Socrates: one way is... sudo fdisk -l
[05:08] <ruel> O__o: faster and more BW maybe?
[05:08] <O__o> Socrates, sudo fdisk -l
[05:08] <IntuitiveNipple> c0l2e: sudo sed -i 's/us\.ubuntu/ph.ubuntu/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <c0l2e> ruel: why bothering installing a desktop default installation for a server purpose appliance?
[05:08] <O__o> ruel, whats BW?
[05:08]  * cjae likes talking to bots
[05:08] <c0l2e> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[05:09] <ruel> O__o: bandwidth
[05:09] <Socrates> And that is absolutely every partition/drive as well?
[05:09] <IntuitiveNipple> c0l2e: don't forget to do sudo apt-get update after the change :)
[05:09] <O__o> ruel, ok
[05:09] <O__o> Socrates, yes
[05:09] <keepsake> Socrates: It should list all of the non-removable ones =P
[05:09] <c0l2e> IntuitiveNipple: yes it will replace it as ph.ubuntu.. but is there any other needed settings in source.list that needed to be replace or it fixes as ease as that?
[05:09] <ruel> c0l2e: sorry didn't knew, I'm just mystified on installing Ubuntu server in VMware.. :p
[05:09] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture.  Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:09] <Keal> oh i don't feel so well
[05:10] <IntuitiveNipple> c0l2e: no, nothing else required
[05:10] <Keal> i just nuked the hell out of chicken that was on the stove for 6 hours x.x
[05:10] <O__o> keepsake, it does list the removable one too
[05:10] <O__o> as long as they are plugin and power on
[05:10] <keepsake> O__o: Not always; today it refused to list mine (SD card)
[05:10] <O__o> keepsake, maybe it isnt mounted
[05:11] <Socrates> Yes, it lists my removeable hard disk.
[05:11] <keepsake> O__o: Ah, true.
[05:11] <keepsake> O__o: I was so busy messing with it trying to fix the CHS I didn't realise that =\
[05:11] <O__o> as long as they are mount fdisk -l should have them
[05:11] <cdenny> jtaji: fixed the problem
[05:11] <cdenny> where can i change the compiz-fusion settings?
[05:11] <keepsake> Also, would someone like to convince me to/against upgrading to 9.04 a6?
[05:11] <O__o> cdenny, u have to install the compiz manager
[05:12] <jtaji> !ccsm | cdenny
[05:12] <ruel> cdenny: have you downloaded compiz-ccsm
[05:12] <O__o> cdenny, then u can change setting in system preferences
[05:12] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture. Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:12] <cdenny> crap maybe i downloaded the wrong one
[05:12] <keepsake> cdenny: You can always remove it if it's wrong =P
[05:12] <cdenny> i downloaded desktop effects, compiz setup
[05:13] <O__o> cdenny, u need the manager
[05:13] <cdenny> i found it
[05:13] <O__o> cdenny, r u using 8.10?
[05:13] <ruel> sudo apt-get -y install compiz compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-extra libcompizconfig-backend-gconf
[05:13] <cdenny> respository was set to canonical only
[05:13] <lanoxx-> what is the name of the tool that is launched after i insert an sd card and which offers me to launch f-spot?
[05:14] <O__o> lanoxx-, u can always do that manually
[05:15] <O__o> lanoxx-, in f-spot
[05:15] <lanoxx-> O__o, i know, thats not my question, i just wanna know the name of the program
[05:16] <lanoxx-> O__o, because it pops up everytime i resume from suspend, and thats very annoying
[05:16] <O__o> then dont resume haha
[05:16] <lanoxx-> i would prefere it to remember if an sd card was in the system before i went to suspend and then dont give me the message
[05:16] <jtaji> lanoxx-: run 'ps au' in a terminal when it pops up, should be one of the last few listed
[05:17] <mylisto> can anyone tell me why when I enable mic capture..then close the volume control and re-open it...my mic capture is disabled?
[05:18] <lanoxx-> jtaji, nope doesnt show up
[05:18] <Socrates> OKay, although my P4M800 Pro is useless, I have an AGP4X/8X slot. What would be compatible card that would fit in such a slot?
[05:18] <Socrates> One that doesn't drive you mad.
[05:18] <jtaji> lanoxx-: sorry, what you really want to know is, go into the preferences in nautilus (file browser), Media tab
[05:19] <doleyb> Socrates: lots of nvidia things, like geforce5700 for examples.
[05:20] <lanoxx-> jtaji, so this dialoge is spawned by nautilus? should i file a bug against it?
[05:20] <cdenny> wow
[05:20] <cdenny> this is fun
[05:20] <Socrates> Are they cheap?
[05:21] <jtaji> lanoxx-: it would be against nautilus, yes
[05:21] <lanoxx-> jtaji, ok thx
[05:21] <keepsake> Is there a way to enable compiz without having it screw up 3D graphics?
[05:22] <jtaji> lanoxx-: actually I wonder if it's a kernel problem
[05:22] <stoic_> I need to uninstall squashfs so I can downgrade but it doesnt show up in the add remove programs list
[05:22] <keepsake> stoic_: Have you tried using apt-get remove --purge?
[05:22] <Keal> i am tripping my socks off due to tainted chicken so i am going to head out now to dreamland, cya
[05:22] <gRunt> Hi all what is a good guid based dvd burning software? I have an iso that only registers 700mb in size but there is actually 3.2gb worth of data in it and k3d doesnt seem to realise that and just wastes my dvd with a failed write.
[05:22] <jtaji> lanoxx-: either way someone will help figure it out
[05:22] <gRunt> k3b ratger
[05:22] <gRunt> rather**
[05:23] <lanoxx-> jtaji, i was thinking about that too, since the kernel would trigger the event for nautilus which in return spawns the dialogue
[05:23] <stoic_> keepsake I tried using apt-get something or other and it freezes after it asks me to confirm ill try apt-get remove -- purge real quick to be sure
[05:23] <keepsake> stoic_: Okay.
[05:23] <Socrates> So, if I were actually able to make desktop effects work through to System>Pref>Appearances (say, because I had a good and compatible video card, which I don't), would that be using this Compiz thing?
[05:23] <Keal> gRunt sounds like you are trying to burn on cd-r's to me
[05:24] <keepsake> Socrates: Yes.
[05:24] <rww> Socrates: yes
[05:24] <O__o> Socrates, what card fo u have?
[05:24] <ramavadakattu> i installed apache using sudo apt-get install apache2.And the httpd.conf is emply! How should i bind to a different port and  "127.0.0.1"?
[05:24] <Socrates> The worst one in the world: VIA P4M800.
[05:24] <Socrates> There's nothing that can be done.
[05:24] <jtaji> lanoxx-: I could also see how it might be a limitation of the hardware, if it powers down the card reader during suspend, for instance
[05:24] <c0l2e> in centos it has a setup and system- and in suse there's yast.. is there a one center configuration in ubuntu console ??
[05:24] <Keal> ramavadakattu don'
[05:25] <O__o> 7600GT only about $50
[05:25] <Keal> ramavadakattu don't you want to bind to 127.0.1.1?
[05:25] <stoic_> keepsake: apt-get remove -- purge squashfs-tools ?
[05:25] <ramavadakattu> Keal : Yes i want to bind 127.0.0.1 at port 2345
[05:25] <Keal> my *is* my loopback "127.0.1.1 anyways?
[05:25] <ramavadakattu> Keal : how should i specify that?
[05:25] <keepsake> stoic_: sudo apt-get remove --purge squashfs-tools
[05:26] <lanoxx-> jtaji, not necessarily, you could just use a token to remember the state, e.g. if there was a card inserted before hibernation and after hibernation, you could savely assume its the same card in the device.
[05:26] <ubuntu1> hi
[05:26] <lanoxx-> s/hibernation/suspend
[05:26] <stoic_> says it cant find package . . .
[05:26] <Keal> after i installed ubuntu my loopback turned into 127.0.1.1
[05:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Keal: can depend on what is set in /etc/hosts
[05:27] <lanoxx-> Keal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting Apache
[05:27] <stoic_> keepsake: gksudo apt-get remove -- purge squashfs-tools cant find package purge
[05:27] <Socrates> What's wrong with VIA anyway? Why can't my card work?
[05:27] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture. Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:27] <keepsake> stoic_: don't put the space between the -- and purge
[05:27] <Socrates> Has it something to do with VIA themselves?
[05:27] <IntuitiveNipple> stoic_: you've got an extra space before the pruge
[05:27] <keepsake> stoic_: It's "--purge"
[05:27] <lanoxx-> Keal, maybe you are looking for this: echo "ServerName localhost" | sudo tee /etc/apache2/conf.d/fqdn ??
[05:27] <O__o> VIA?
[05:27] <O__o> i dont know if VIA makes video card
[05:28] <keepsake> stoic_: And don't use gksudo, use sudo
[05:28] <stoic_> how come ?
[05:28] <keepsake> stoic_: Since apt-get is not a GUI program
[05:28] <stoic_> ahh
[05:28] <Socrates> Not card, integrated video
[05:28] <jtaji> Socrates: they don't release specs like nvidia, however unlike nvidia they don't release closed-source drivers
[05:29] <Socrates> Oh.
[05:29] <stoic_> awesome gksudo was the problem, why it froze
[05:29] <gRunt> Keal, no i have a dvd in an selected burn dvd image.
[05:29] <gRunt> but the iso is most definitely 700mb says so on my desktop but I can extract it to 3.2gb in size.
[05:29] <stoic_> keepsake: thanks gksudo was the problem
[05:29] <O__o> integrated video chips are crap
[05:29] <keepsake> stoic_: Is it removing?
[05:29] <Socrates> So, if I break into their office, steal the code, and give it to you guys, can you make a driver?
[05:29] <stoic_> keepsake: yes its done
[05:29] <rww> Socrates: no
[05:29] <stoic_> keepsake: thank you much
[05:29] <jtaji> Socrates: they don't release any Linux drivers, is what I mean
[05:29] <keepsake> stoic_: That's good to hear =), no problem
[05:30] <O__o> Socrates, just get nvidia card
[05:30] <Socrates> Yeah, I think so.
[05:30] <O__o> Socrates, u can get decent one for like $50
[05:32] <Keal> lanoxx- why would i refer to apache?
[05:33] <lanoxx-> Keal, because apache kept telling me about my localhost being 127.0.1.1 and i solved it with the cmd i posted above
[05:33] <lanoxx-> just thought your problem might be related to this
[05:34] <ulaelable> quick, whats the best ftp app
[05:34] <IntuitiveNipple> ulaelable: ftp
[05:34] <ulaelable> :o
[05:34] <Socrates> Funny - my screen savers seem to use my integrated graphics.
[05:34] <Keal> sudo told me my local host is 127.0.0.1 i think, lanoxx-
[05:35] <Socrates> But desktop effects won't work.
[05:35] <keepsake> !ftp | ulaelable
[05:35] <lanoxx-> Keal, i think you can have more than one localhost loop back
[05:35] <ulaelable> thanks
[05:35] <Keal> bbl watching 'headlines'
[05:35] <gaintsura> I'm about to re-install windows on my main machine, dualbooted with ubuntu, do I need to do anything post windows install to be able to come back to ubuntu?
[05:36] <ulaelable> what a useful bot
[05:36] <lanoxx-> ulaelable, yes, you will have to reinstall grub
[05:36] <lanoxx-> since windows overrides it
[05:36] <rww> !grub | gaintsura: first link
[05:36] <sebsebseb> !grub | gainsura
[05:36] <gaintsura> thanks =)
[05:37] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: why re installing Windows?
[05:37] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: how about going UBuntu only :D  or  Windows in a vm.  unless you got 3D games or something like that of course
[05:37] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Windows/Linux dual boot is actually the best choice IMO
[05:38] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Too many programs dependent on Windows structure =\
[05:38] <sebsebseb> keepsake: well  2D stuff is fine in a virtual machine
[05:38] <cdenny> with compiz fusion can i have a different wallpaper for each side?
[05:39] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Not only games, but many common apps, like MSN and such, don't function on Wine, or do not have Linux programs that support all features =\
[05:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: not wine virtual machien
[05:39] <XtrHotMarSpy> msn is an app?
[05:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: running  proper WIndows inside   Ubuntu
[05:39] <cdenny> sebsebseb: whats up
[05:39] <cdenny> sebsebseb: i have lots of experience with virtual machines
[05:39] <rww> XtrHotMarSpy: Windows Live Messenger, I assume.
[05:39] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Ah, VM's, I'm mistaken.
[05:40] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Then that's a fine idea.
[05:40] <keepsake> sebsebseb: What do you use as the VM manager?
[05:40] <sebsebseb> keepsake: if I am running Virtual machines i'll use the binary from their site http://www.virtualbox.org so I can also have USB suppourt.  OSE has no USB suppourt
[05:40] <XtrHotMarSpy> pidgin does that
[05:40] <riwa> I'm looking for a program to manage my ipod photo. Itunes doesn't seem available (through synaptics anyway) so I wonder which one I should go for.
[05:41] <angrYaardvark> i use suns virtualbox
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: and this computer does not have hardware virtualization, and so no KVM for me
[05:41] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Interesting, I'll look into that, since I'm running dual boot right now.
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: fine for everything except 3D games basicalley
[05:41] <keepsake> sebsebseb: How's graphics/sound editing?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: ,but soon Codeweavers Crossover Games is going to have proper  Directx 10 suppourt :D
[05:41] <keepsake> sebsebseb: And driver support?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: that depends I guess
[05:42] <sebsebseb> keepsake: theres a good manual on their site plus of course #vbox
[05:42] <sebsebseb> keepsake: and then there are also the VMware products
[05:42] <keepsake> sebsebseb: And well, my pathetic ATI card won't do well with games on Ubuntu anyhow. I run Windows normally for that reason.
[05:42] <cdenny> i have a .bundle file on a dvd, how do i run it
[05:42] <zenlunatic> cdenny, do you have execute permission?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> keepsake: games in  Windows?
[05:43] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Games and general compatibility =\
[05:43] <sebsebseb> keepsake: ok
[05:43] <cdenny> zenlunatic: maybe?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> keepsake: well  wine  or commercial versions of it,  and vm's and then your dual booted  XP?  not Vista?  as a last resort :)
[05:43] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture. Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:44] <zenlunatic> cdavis, ls -l [file]
[05:44] <cdenny> i would assume so
[05:44] <keepsake> sebsebseb: I'm going to try VMing later so I can stay on Ubuntu more (XP sp2 btw).
[05:44] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yep that's good only using a psyical Windows install, as a last resort, because nothing else would work for that app
[05:44] <gaintsura> rww sebsebseb: the quickstart portion should suffice, yes?
[05:44] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: what?
[05:45] <gaintsura> for recovering grub after windows install?
[05:45] <cdenny> zenlunatic: I checked permissions, yes i do
[05:45] <cdenny> zenlunatic: but how do i execute?
[05:45] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: Windows does not like other OS's so it goes over the MBR
[05:45] <zenlunatic> cdavis, try ./[file]
[05:45] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: your /boot/grub will still be there, but you got to get the thing back on the MBR as well
[05:45] <zenlunatic> cdenny, while in the dir try ./blah.bundle
[05:46] <gaintsura> sebsebseb: yes, I know that, I'm saying, that the link you provided, the section called 'quick start' should be good enough, I shouldn't need to take down the rest, yes?
[05:46] <cdenny> zenlunatic: im sorry, ive been using ubuntu for a couple of minuts
[05:46] <cdenny> how do i get in the directory
[05:46] <sebsebseb> keepsake: sure, but even then,   I think this :)  native Linux app :)   some Windows crap ok run it in wine or commercial versions,  Codeweavers,  Cedega yeah.   no good there?  fine run in the VM.   no good there fine run in a real install of Windows
[05:47] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[05:47] <gaintsura> nice
[05:47] <gaintsura> I felt that coming
[05:47] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Actually all I really need are some random email clients that don't work properly with wine.
[05:47] <zenlunatic> cdenny, are you in gnome?
[05:47]  * ice_cream relaxes and enjoys the show
[05:47] <cdenny> zenlunatic: yes
[05:48] <sebsebseb> keepsake: such as?  and what's wrong with Thunderbird, Evoloution, or Kmail
[05:48] <zenlunatic> cdenny, do you see the dvd icon on the desktop?
[05:48] <keepsake> Should I cancel my Hardy -> Intrepid upgrade?
[05:48] <cdenny> yes
[05:48] <zenlunatic> cdenny, right click and properties
[05:48] <cdenny> yes
[05:48] <cdenny> its /media/cdrom0
[05:48] <keepsake> sebsebseb: FirstClass, a strange client used at my school; attaching files crash the program.
[05:48] <zenlunatic> cdenny, okay so cd /media/cdrom0
[05:48] <sebsebseb> keepsake: oh email in a XP VM,  well if that's all your going to do, that's not to bad
[05:48] <keepsake> Anyone have an opinion on whether I should stay at 8.04 or go 8.10?
[05:49] <cdenny> ah thanks
[05:49] <zenlunatic> keepsake, im on 9.04
[05:49] <cdenny> and the ./name.bundle?
[05:49] <sebsebseb> keepsake: 8.04 and 8.10 not that much different
[05:49] <ice_cream> hi, thought i'd check in again about the latest firefox/flash sound issues..seems to occur less frequently after last version update, but persists on occasion
[05:49] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[05:49] <keepsake> zenlunatic: That was actually my goal.
[05:49] <keepsake> I was planning on installing alpha6
[05:49] <zenlunatic> cdenny, yeah when you're current working directory contains the file you may invoke it with ./file.blah
[05:49] <keepsake> Which is why I'm upgrading to 8.10
[05:49] <cdenny> zenlunatic: its says root acces is required
[05:49] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yeah  I was going to tonight, but then change of plan
[05:50] <zenlunatic> cdenny, do you have root password?
[05:50] <cdenny> yes
[05:50] <cdenny> but it did not give me an option to enter it
[05:50] <zenlunatic> cdenny, so do that as root or sudo
[05:50] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Virtualbox isn't compatible with 9.04 yet, is it?
[05:50] <Socrates> Do you think that the GeForce4 MX |GeForce MX would work with 8.10?
[05:50] <sebsebseb> keepsake: of course Virtualbox can run 9.04
[05:50] <cdenny> zenlunatic: how?
[05:51] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Do you need to compile for 9.04? There isn't a .deb on the website.
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: and sure there is no 9.04 version of Virtualbox yet, but the 8.10 one should work
[05:51] <zenlunatic> sudo ./file
[05:51] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Wouldn't it not install though, since the distro version would be wrong?
[05:51] <cdenny> cool
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: I don't think so
[05:51] <ShinyHat> can someone walk me through getting java working?
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: I think it will be fine
[05:51] <cdenny> zenlunatic: its working, thank you very much
[05:51] <zenlunatic> cdenny, great to hear
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: 8.10 and 9.04 alpha6 are probably pretty damn similar under the hood
[05:52] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Okay, well, I'm almost done downloading files for 8.10, so I'll see what'll happen.
[05:52] <sebsebseb> keepsake: ok
[05:52] <zomby_woof> Socrates, yes it will
[05:52] <cdenny> can I have separate wallpapers for each side of the cube?
[05:52] <Socrates> Cool, thanks.
[05:52] <ice_cream> btw, i'm glad mplayer package by default still includes the gtk gui
[05:52] <keepsake> cdenny: Probably, just try setting it on each side
[05:52] <Socrates> Would most lower end nVidia cards?
[05:53] <cdenny> keepsake: doesnt
[05:53] <keepsake> Socrates: What's stopping you from spending a little and getting a middle-end card?
[05:53] <cdenny> keepsake: applies to all sides
[05:53] <zenlunatic> cdenny, sorry don't use that effects stuff
[05:53] <Socrates> I'm a philosophy student.
[05:53] <keepsake> cdenny: Ah, okay.
[05:53] <cdenny> dang it
[05:53] <cdenny> i just closed terminal
[05:53] <keepsake> Socrates: I see...
[05:53] <cdenny> and the install window disappeared
[05:53] <Socrates> So I'm poor.
[05:54] <zenlunatic> cdenny, its cool it will remember your commands
[05:54] <Socrates> Relatively, anyway.
[05:54] <keepsake> Socrates: Well, a middle-end card wouldn't cost you more than $50
[05:54] <zenlunatic> cdenny, just use the arrows
[05:54] <cdenny> but it was in the process of installing
[05:54] <keepsake> Socrates: Although a high-end one does go well above $150
[05:54] <cdenny> did i cancel it?
[05:54] <keepsake> cdenny: If the process was started by that Terminal, then yes.
[05:54] <zenlunatic> cdenny, yeah
[05:54] <cdenny>  :(
[05:54] <Socrates> USD$50. But I'm in Australia; our exchange rate is terrible at the moment, and IT stuff, which is all imported, is going up in price.
[05:55] <cdenny> hmmm
[05:55] <keepsake> Socrates: Steal one =P
[05:55] <cdenny> omg
[05:55] <cdenny> i just uninstalled
[05:55] <cdenny> then it was going to install
[05:55] <cdenny> and i accidently clicked cancel
[05:55] <cdenny> :|
[05:55] <FloodBot2> cdenny: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:55] <keepsake> Socrates: Well I'm actually Canadian, so CAD50 is pretty close to 50 Australian... dollars?
[05:55] <jvboom> How well does boxee run on ubuntu?
[05:55] <ice_cream> oh, also wanted to point out that the last couple of times i compared "aptitude safe-upgrade" to "aptitude full-upgrade"  and it appeared that they've been identical in package upgrade suggestions/effect...is one of the commands obsolete..?
[05:56] <Socrates> Yeah, possibly, I'm not sure whether your dollar has suffered as much as ours.
[05:57] <ShinyHat> can someone help me get java working?
[05:57] <dismal_denizen> Maybe.
[05:57] <dismal_denizen> What's the problem?
[05:57] <cdenny> i love this chat
[05:57] <keepsake> Socrates: Well, at its highest, the exchange was 1.1CAD to 1 USD (usually CAD <1.00), but now it's 0.75 again.
[05:57] <weweboom> what's the channel topic?
[05:57] <ice_cream> weweboom, try  /topic
[05:57] <keepsake> Socrates: It's actually been hovering at 0.9 recently
[05:57] <weweboom> sorry first time, no need to be hurtful
[05:57] <keepsake> Socrates: But dropped to 0.75 in the last weeks or so
[05:57] <Huufarted> Any way to force fsck to run on the next reboot?
[05:57] <cdenny> where can i find themes for ubuntu?
[05:58] <weweboom> cdenny gnome-look.org
[05:58] <cdenny> weweboom: thank you
[05:58] <dismal_denizen> Or Gnome-art Next Gen app
[05:58] <Socrates> I had a problem with Java after installing 8.10. I installed the unrestricted thingy, and it didn't work, so then I installed something called OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start and Runtime and everything worked.
[05:58] <weweboom> Socrates try icedtea
[05:58] <cdenny> the content on each side of the cube is the same, its not separate for each side, can i change this?
[05:59] <Socrates> No, it works now!
[05:59] <cdenny> i want to have one side for office, etc.
[05:59] <keepsake> Socrates, weweboom: Why not the proprietary Java software?
[05:59] <Socrates> Yeah, one Australian dollar gets about .65 US.
[05:59] <dismal_denizen> Use the official JRE
[05:59] <weweboom> keepsake idk I'm not much of a coffee person
[05:59] <Socrates> So I should get rid of OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start???
[05:59] <Socrates> But then what do I do, since it was the only thing that worked!
[06:00] <weweboom> Socrates if it works for you don't listen to me, i thought you had a problem
[06:00] <keepsake> Socrates: Ideally, use the one by Sun Java.
[06:00] <ice_cream> hmm, surprisingly i have had no need for jre since latest format
[06:00] <keepsake> Socrates: But then again, don't fix it if it's not broken.
[06:00] <weweboom> I only really need java to play powder game
[06:00] <keepsake> Socrates: Probably most important thing you need to know with Linux =__=
[06:00] <Socrates> Yeah, well, I would use the Sun Java one, but when I was just using it I couldn't even get into this chat room.
[06:00] <ice_cream> keepsake, i disagree
[06:00] <dismal_denizen> ice_cream: it's good to have the JRE installed (I'm a Java programmer)
[06:00] <ice_cream> customize, break, and learn
[06:01] <Socrates> I didn't know that OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start was not official. I just installed it.
[06:01] <keepsake> ice_cream: True, but there's been times when there wasn't much learn, just "revert what was broken".
[06:01] <Socrates> Will it cause massive problems later?
[06:01] <ice_cream> heh
[06:01] <dismal_denizen> Does anyone know how to get network monitoring working in Conky?
[06:01] <keepsake> Socrates: Massive? No.
[06:01] <weweboom> I didn't even know there was an ubuntu chat, just say it in xchat list
[06:02] <Socrates> But what could go wrong?
[06:02] <ice_cream> just dont forget the roots -- one of the major ideas behind the open source community is the freedom to change anything with your system
[06:02] <cdenny> ubuntu wont let me eject the disk
[06:02] <cdenny> it says cannot unmount
[06:02] <bullgard4> _abc_: Where do the two letters 'ff' come from in 'ffmpeg'?
[06:02] <keepsake> Socrates: To be honest, not much, but it might not be as good as Sun Java, that's all.
[06:02] <weweboom> cdenny try using unmount
[06:02] <Arkain> has anybody here heard about a problem with intrepid and virtualbox?
[06:02] <keepsake> cdenny: umount -f
[06:02] <cdenny> same message
[06:02] <bullgard4> Where do the two letters 'ff' come from in 'ffmpeg'?
[06:03] <srid_> I'm looking forward to buy a slightly high performing linux computer that is 1) of small form factor, 2) enough memory and dual core (I'll be bulding lots of programs on this besides running XUL apps). any suggestions?
[06:03] <Socrates> Okay, that's alright. Why doesn't the normal Sun Java work? It worked fine in 8.04.
[06:03] <sanal> .,.,.,.,.
[06:03] <sanal> ./././//
[06:03] <FloodBot2> sanal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <keepsake> Socrates: Not sure here, I'm running 8.04 (at least for the next couple of minutes), and it works fine for me.
[06:03] <cdenny> -f doesnt appear to be correct
[06:03] <Socrates> Yeah, well I'll be interested to see what happens. I installed 8.10 just today also.
[06:03] <keepsake> cdenny: What are you trying to unmount?
[06:04] <weweboom> has anyone else noticed how much longer it took to install intrepid ibex then it did to install hardy heron? is that just me?
[06:04] <cdenny> keepsake: dved
[06:04] <cdenny> dv
[06:04] <cdenny> dvd
[06:04] <Socrates> They ought to fix this problem. Heaps of people seem to be having it.
[06:04] <keepsake> cdenny: You don't need to unmount DVDs
[06:04] <Socrates> Java worked in 8.04 for me. No worries.
[06:04] <Arkain> I keep having a problem where VBox is eating all of system ram, eveb after closing the program. Figuring it has to be a kernel bug because the same version of the program doing the same thing worked in Hardy just fine.
[06:04] <keepsake> cdenny: You can't just open the CD bay?
[06:05] <cdenny> keepsake: no lol it says it cant
[06:05] <cdenny> keepsake: an application is using it
[06:05] <weweboom> cdenny try holding down the button, always works for me
[06:05] <XtrHotMarSpy> stick a paperclip in the hole
[06:05] <weweboom> like hold it down indefinitley
[06:05] <cdenny> weweboom: nope, the message pops up after about 10 seconds
[06:05] <cdenny> lmao
[06:06] <weweboom> well I'm out of ideas, sorry
[06:06] <keepsake> cdenny: Do you know which program?
[06:06] <keepsake> cdenny: You can always just force end the program.
[06:06] <cdenny> it was an installer
[06:06] <keepsake> Socrates: Try 9.04 =P
[06:06] <cdenny> it installed vmware workstation
[06:06] <keepsake> cdenny: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[06:06] <Socrates> But it's not ought yet is it? Not the proper version I mean.
[06:07] <Socrates> ought = out
[06:07] <keepsake> cdenny: And kill any instances of VM and stuff
[06:07] <XtrHotMarSpy> the cd drive has a small hole in it. stick a paperclip in there and push. it'll open.
[06:07] <keepsake> Socrates: No, it's still alpha right now.
[06:07] <keepsake> Socrates: But I'm taking the risks and doing the upgrade anyway.
[06:07] <keepsake> \o/
[06:07] <Arkain> cdenny, can you log out of all sessions then log back in, pop open a terminal and type eject /dev/yourdrivepath ?
[06:08] <keepsake> Arkain: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace =P
[06:08] <Socrates> What will happen if I upgrade to 9.04 when I have OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start on my computer as well as the official Java?
[06:08] <cdenny> i killed vmware_tray, didnt fix it
[06:08] <Arkain> keepsake: doesn't get any terminal sessions that may be running on the console
[06:08] <Socrates> Will the whole thing collapse?
[06:08] <keepsake> Arkain: Ah, but I doubt many people run console terminal commands.
[06:08] <keepsake> Socrates: I'll tell you soon enough =P
[06:09] <keepsake> Socrates: 1401/1420 files for 8.10...
[06:09] <Socrates> I bet it doesn't work.
[06:09] <Socrates> I bet you one Australian dollar.
[06:09] <Arkain> keepsake: I imagine you're right for most people.
[06:09] <BobC2> Help pls! I use a Lynksys router and just had my TWC modem replaced XP machine works fine my Ubuntu 8.04 has "No network connection"  any help?
[06:09] <Socrates> Which will get you a few atoms of a new video card.
[06:10] <cdenny> ill log out
[06:10] <cdenny> see if that works
[06:10] <keepsake> Socrates: Anything helps at this point...
[06:11] <XtrHotMarSpy> BobC2, plug in the network cable
[06:12] <Socrates> Are you upgrading or burning a CD?
[06:12] <Socrates> I mean, upgrading using the upgrade tool rather installing from a CD.
[06:12] <Keal> my blankie is bounty fresh! :D
[06:12] <BobC2> Checked that XrtHot in OK
[06:12] <keepsake> Socrates: Using upgrade manager.
[06:12] <simt> google
[06:12] <dayo> hello people. what commandline-based rhythmbox alternatives are out there?
[06:13] <cdenny> nope
[06:13] <simt> orkut
[06:13] <cdenny> didnt work
[06:13] <cdenny> still cant eject
[06:13] <cdenny> even when i was logged out
[06:13] <Arkain> Did you open a console and try the eject command?
[06:13] <Socrates> Why are my DVDs fine yet desktop effects won't work at all?
[06:14] <Arkain> eject will unmount automatically if nothing is using the drive
[06:14] <Socrates> Isn't there some connection between the various things one's video card deals with?
[06:14] <dayo> !audio > dayo
[06:14] <Arkain> might need to use sudo
[06:16] <BobC2> XtrHotMarSpy I try a reboot
[06:16] <cdenny> sudo or anything doesnt work
[06:16] <cdenny> says its busy
[06:17] <cdenny> ill just take it out when i shutdown
[06:17] <Arkain> cdenny: definitely odd.  Whatever you last ran that used the drive is still running.
[06:17] <BobC2> XtrHotMarSpy than WORKED  silly me!~ thjanks for the reply!
[06:18] <XtrHotMarSpy> yay!
[06:18] <BobC2> Yes! thanks!
[06:18] <cdenny> Arkain: probably something i did on my end
[06:19] <Alex_21> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu minimal install today. I want to install Orca, but I can't find the package under Ubuntu 7.04 Hardy
[06:19] <lzd> hello, everyone! loogin for best house music? http://letitplay.org is here
[06:19] <Alex_21> 8.04 Hardy, sorry. Can anyone please help?
[06:19] <lzd> ubuntu rox!
[06:19] <zenlunatic> cdenny, i've been researching your problem
[06:20] <cdenny> zenlunatic: you didnt have to do that
[06:20] <cdenny> zenlunatic: but thanks
[06:20] <BobC2> Gotta love the  Ubuntu community CYA!
[06:20] <Alex_21> I need help. I can't install Orca
[06:20] <zenlunatic> cdenny,  its cool i learned about somehing new called fuser
[06:20] <Alex_21> What is the package called in 8.04 Hardy
[06:20] <Alex_21> ?
[06:21] <Alex_21> Please
[06:21] <lstarnes> Alex_21: the screen reader for gnome?
[06:21] <Alex_21> Yes
[06:21] <Alex_21> Grr
[06:21] <lstarnes> Alex_21: gnome-orca
[06:21] <bootup> i'm looking to buy a neo freerunner and was wondering if anybody knows which version is preferred for someone in the USA.
[06:22] <lstarnes> Alex_21: I found it using aptitude search orca
[06:22] <zenlunatic> cdenny, try this 'fuser -k /media/cdrom0'
[06:23] <programan> I am running ubuntu from my laptop after using a usb mouse after unplugging it to go back to touchpad it is all messed up and barely works right
[06:23] <lzd> http://letitplay.org is here
[06:24] <XtrHotMarSpy> programan, reboot
[06:24] <cdenny> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy.
[06:24] <cdenny>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[06:24] <cdenny>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[06:24] <cdenny> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[06:25] <cdenny> crap
[06:25] <FloodBot2> cdenny: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <programan> I've tried...
[06:25] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrr im so pissed off..
[06:25] <programan> hmm
[06:25] <Alex_21> I can't figure out why I get no sound out of my box. Do I need to install something. It is a minimal install
[06:25] <Alex_21> Please
[06:25] <grendal_prime> ive built this thing from source "rekall" twice now and im getting the same error and i cannot figure out what the hell is going wrong
[06:26] <o0Chris0o> Alex_21: make sure your volume is all the way up on the speaker icon
[06:26] <Alex_21> I have nothing on my top pannel
[06:26] <Alex_21> It is a minimal install
[06:26] <XtrHotMarSpy> cdenny, find the little hole in the drive door, stick an unfolded paper clip in it and push
[06:26] <o0Chris0o> that could be why also, I'm not sure
[06:26] <XtrHotMarSpy> it will open
[06:27] <wewelinuxfanboyb> I guess in an ubuntu forum, my username is kind of a given
[06:27] <o0Chris0o> Alex_21: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891089 try this
[06:28] <wewelinuxfanboyb> NathanMurr your ip is 217.67.187.34
[06:28] <wewelinuxfanboyb> snowangel your ip is 113.128.136.217
[06:28] <simion314> hi, on my laptop i have a thing like a mini joystick that can move the mouse, i have a problem  :my pointer is been draged into a corner, i disabled the touchpad with synclient but this joystic is still works, how is this named? i want to google how to turn it off with synclient, please help
[06:29] <grendal_prime> has anyone successfully installed rekall from source?
[06:29] <cdenny> XtrHotMarSpy: i got it out
[06:29] <bazhang> wewelinuxfanboyb, stay on topic
[06:29] <Alex_21> Thanks
[06:29] <XtrHotMarSpy> cdenny, with the paperclip?
[06:29] <Alex_21> I'll read it
[06:29] <o0Chris0o> Alex_21, let me know if that helps
[06:29] <wewelinuxfanboyb> bazhang kindly take it from your poolboy
[06:29] <cdenny> XtrHotMarSpy: yea
[06:29] <cdenny> XtrHotMarSpy: BUT, the dvd is shown as still there
[06:29] <XtrHotMarSpy> wewelinuxfanboyb, your ip is 99.194.174.160
[06:29] <o0Chris0o> ...
[06:30] <cdenny> i think the dvd died
[06:30] <cdenny> or lost its mind
[06:30] <cdenny> ill do a full restart
[06:30] <cdenny> brb
[06:30]  * lzd good music here: http://letitplay.org
[06:30] <bazhang> lzd, stop that
[06:32] <cdenny> woohoo!!
[06:33] <cdenny> thanks to everyone who helped me
[06:33] <cdenny> it must have lost its mind or something
[06:33] <maxagaz> how to switch tty from command line ?
[06:33] <Keal> what is kubuntu?
[06:33] <ruel> Ctrl+Alt+F1 just killed me
[06:33] <maxagaz> ruel, that's not from command line...
[06:34] <programan> Anyone having problems switching between a usb mouse and touchpad?
[06:34] <ruel> maxagaz: I just hitted it and x server died
[06:34] <wanna_learn_more> hi,how to install ath5k at ubuntu 2.6.27-11 ???
[06:34] <c0l2e> how can I umount cifs before networkmanager goes down??
[06:34] <ruel> LOL
[06:35] <ruel> maxagaz:
[06:35] <ruel> xD
[06:35] <joetheodd> My volume with linux is a lot quieter than it was with Windows.. how can I fix this?
[06:35] <Keal> what is kubuntu?
[06:35] <joetheodd> Keal, ubuntu based on kde instead of gnome
[06:35] <lstarnes> ruel: did you try ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[06:35] <ruel> !kubuntu | Keal
[06:36] <ruel> lstarnes: I don't want to try
[06:36] <maxagaz> lstarnes, i know this, i want to use command line
[06:36] <joetheodd> maxagaz, ctrl+alt+f#
[06:37] <ruel> lstarnes: ok i got that thanks
[06:37] <ruel> kewl
[06:37] <ruel> it worked
[06:37] <maxagaz> joetheodd, that's what i want to do using command line
[06:37] <ruel> :D
[06:37] <cthompson__> anyone help with shorewall(having internal networking issues with virtualbox?)
[06:38] <wanna_learn_more> hi,how to install ath5k at ubuntu 2.6.27-11 ???
[06:39] <cthompson__> wanna_learn_more: thats a kernel version -- not an ubuntu version
[06:39] <cthompson__> !ath5k
[06:39] <wanna_learn_more> !ath5k
[06:39] <wanna_learn_more> sorr
[06:40] <wanna_learn_more> y
[06:40] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[06:40] <wanna_learn_more> already
[06:40] <wanna_learn_more> then?
[06:40] <bn2knowitall> does anybody else have problems with the network--managment icon disapearing?
[06:40] <princessashley> i want to download a nice pink theme for my windows but, i dont what exactly to download
[06:41] <princessashley> im really new to nix
[06:41] <bn2knowitall> same
[06:41] <bn2knowitall> but I really love it
[06:41] <cthompson__> gnome-look.org
[06:41] <bn2knowitall> a lot better then windows
[06:41] <Alex_21> Thanks for all your help
[06:41] <Flannel> !theme | princessashley
[06:41] <wanna_learn_more> crdlb:already,then?
[06:41] <Alex_21> Good night
[06:41] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: system > administration > Hardware drivers
[06:42] <princessashley> can do but am i wanting gtk theme, gnome theme or...?
[06:42] <wanna_learn_more> crdlb:system is command or directory??i tried both of it but failed
[06:42] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: it's a menu at the top of your screen
[06:43] <princessashley> ill check those sites out
[06:43] <princessashley> im gonna hang around though. i may need a hand
[06:44] <bn2knowitall> well, for some reason the wireless icon on top with the bars will randomly disappear on me when I start up ubuntu somtimes
[06:44] <bn2knowitall> and when I go to manage it all i get is telephony and wired connection and the wireless in there is gon
[06:44] <bn2knowitall> gone
[06:44] <kraut> moin
[06:45] <learn_more> crdlb:system is command or directory??i tried both of it but failed,for the command line >>>bash:command not found
[06:45] <kinja-sheep> Which Ubuntu do I want?  Ubuntu MID or Ubuntu UMPC?  There are no Ubuntu Notebook Remix?
[06:46] <kinja-sheep> I wanted an original Ubuntu-desktop though.
[06:46] <princessashley> i mainly want pinkish windows so am i wanting window borders?
[06:46] <princessashley> at art.gnome.org
[06:46] <Flannel> princessashley: Yes.
[06:46] <Flannel> princessashley: and then an appropriate desktop background
[06:47] <crdlb> kinja-sheep: if you have a full-size notebook, just use ubuntu(-desktop)
[06:47] <princessashley> cool
[06:47] <kinja-sheep> crdlb: I have a 7" notebook.
[06:48] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: xubuntu
[06:48] <crdlb> kinja-sheep: you probably want the netbook remix then
[06:48] <kinja-sheep> cthompson_: Xubuntu is lighter on system resources? ;o
[06:48] <learn_more> crdlb:me?sorry disconnected ><
[06:48] <bn2knowitall> exit
[06:49] <kinja-sheep> crdlb: I tried to find netbook remix but I can't find the iso anywhere on ubuntu.com :(
[06:49] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: yes... lighter, as well has less to offer then the full verison though... you have to keep this in mind when choosing something "light-weight"
[06:49] <linux> hi everyone
[06:49] <bobbie4> i like the ubuntu thing. It seems to be okay
[06:50] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: as well the interface is not gnome, its xfce which is a little quicker and different
[06:50] <kinja-sheep> cthompson_: Good point.  I'll have to do that. I like Gnome. :O
[06:50] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: please re-read... its NOT gnome
[06:50] <Flannel> kinja-sheep: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr  I will warn you though, it's not really up to date last I heard
[06:51] <crdlb> learn_more: at the top of your screen, it says "Applications Places System" (possibly localized)
[06:51] <kinja-sheep> cthompson_: I know. I'll try the xfce since this isn't my main system so I wouldn't mind trying new things out.  KDE one day, too.
[06:51] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: I like kde... primarily b/c its developed in part in my home town
[06:52] <ulaelable> google is a front
[06:52] <quibbler> kinja-sheep: http://oem-images.canonical.com/unr/
[06:52] <ulaelable> prove me wrong
[06:52] <kinja-sheep> Thanks everyone. I'll look into it.
[06:55] <tangerine_> moo
[06:55] <cojack> up
[06:56] <tangerine_> up
[06:56] <learn_more> how to go system at ubuntu server 8.10
[06:56] <learn_more> how to go to system at ubuntu server 8.10 >>really new to this distro
[06:57] <Provant> learn_more
[06:57] <adful123> what's so nice about urxvt?
[06:57] <Provant> What do you really need a hand with?
[06:57] <learn_more> i said it before,ath5k..i read this section http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[06:57] <learn_more> but dont know how to go to kernel configuration or system
[06:57] <crdlb> learn_more: it's a headless server?
[06:57] <learn_more> headless?
[06:57] <learn_more> u mean?
[06:58] <crdlb> without a GUI
[06:58] <learn_more> yeah
[06:58] <learn_more> without gui
[06:58] <crdlb> what do you need wireless for?
[06:58] <adful123> anyone? hehe
[06:58] <learn_more> tried my sparklan
[06:58] <learn_more> but i dont want any madwifi
[06:58] <crdlb> ath5k doesn't support AP mode yet, so you can't use it to make a wireless router
[06:58] <learn_more> client only
[06:59] <learn_more> its okkie dokkie for me
[06:59] <noren__> hi there
[06:59] <noren__> is there any good drive recovery and fixing tool in buntu
[06:59] <learn_more> crdlb:any solution?
[06:59] <learn_more> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[06:59] <crdlb> learn_more: I'm looking
[07:00] <noren__> i have this old hard disk which i want to fix to setup an old pc f mine
[07:00] <learn_more> crdlb:okay
[07:03] <maxagaz> what is the best way to log on an ubuntu installed on a vmware ?
[07:04] <Reidy> I need some help related to installing World of Warcraft on 8.10
[07:05] <noren__> !games
[07:05] <Flannel> Reidy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[07:05] <quibbler> Reidy: you can best ask that in #winehq
[07:05] <Reidy> I know, I have a questions about one of the installation methods.
[07:05] <Flannel> Reidy: Best to just ask the question then.
[07:06] <noren__> i have this old hard disk which i want to fix/ repair to setup an old pc of mine guide to ubuntu tools anyone
[07:06] <crdlb> learn_more: I'm not sure how to enable them without using jockey :/
[07:06] <Reidy> I'm going to be installing WoW via Blizzard's Downloader. Is there a special place I need to download the files to?
[07:06] <crdlb> learn_more: what's preventing you from using a wired connection?
[07:07] <learn_more> jockey??
[07:07] <learn_more> crdlb:i used wired too,but want to try ath5k.because madwifi project spend their time for ath5k
[07:08] <Flannel> Reidy: I don't believe so, no.
[07:08] <crdlb> learn_more: that's the tool you use (jockey-gtk specifically) for enabling ath5k with a GUI
[07:11] <clarkeo> hi so i had an early version of jaunty insalled and decided to do a clean install of alpha 6 as i had dependency problems and it seemed to be a good idea at the time anyway so I did this forgetting that my home directory was encrypted...easy enough to do seeing its such a transparent process now! so any advice how to get back into my files?
[07:11] <quibbler> noren__: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[07:12] <wanna_learn_more> crdlb:dc again,whats jockey :-/
[07:12] <doleyb> wanna_learn_more: jockey is a program to enable/disable some binary hardware drivers, including atheros
[07:12] <wanna_learn_more> owh,apt-get install jockey?
[07:12] <cdenny> how do i format a hdd?
[07:12] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: but it is apparently only usable with a GUI
[07:12] <Provant> Provant ~ Out.
[07:13] <wanna_learn_more> (T_T)
[07:13] <wanna_learn_more> how to install gui ?
[07:14] <DeVnOrE_> howto format a drive : man mkfs
[07:15] <DeVnOrE_> any bash gurus here?
[07:15] <cdenny> bash.org ?
[07:16] <scizzo-> DeVnOrE_: maybe ask the question about bash and see if someone can answer?
[07:16] <sniper0269> Just testing a new theme
[07:16] <darek33333333> czesc
[07:16] <sniper0269> open to suggestions...
[07:16] <randal> error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libogmrip0
[07:17] <randal> does anyone know how i can fix this error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libogmrip0
[07:17] <DeVnOrE_> well i need to write a bash script that moves illegal (not jpg) to another location while keeping the filestructure.
[07:17] <DeVnOrE_> randal: apt-cache search libogmrip0
[07:17] <DeVnOrE_> and if it exist install it.
[07:18] <DeVnOrE_> if not then i can't help you, i'm on my workcomputer and it is a mac so i can't check
[07:18] <randal> randal@randal-desktop:~$ sudo apt-cache search libogmrip0
[07:18] <randal> [sudo] password for randal:
[07:18] <randal> libogmrip0 - Application for ripping and encoding DVD - libraries files
[07:18] <randal> randal@randal-desktop:~$
[07:18] <randal>      (what did this do)
[07:18] <FloodBot2> randal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <DeVnOrE_> randal: checked if the package was in the repos
[07:19] <DeVnOrE_> randal: sudo apt-get install libogmrip0
[07:19] <prince_jammys> randal: searched for a package matching your pattern, found one, and printed it.
[07:19] <randal> devnOrE it said it was allready installed to the newest version
[07:20] <DeVnOrE_> randal: weird, try reinstall instead of install
[07:20] <simi_> any ideea how to disable a trackpoint?
[07:20] <Flannel> simi_: synaptics likely.
[07:20] <randal> devnorE how do i do that in terminal
[07:20] <Flannel> !synaptics | simi_
[07:20] <DeVnOrE_> sudo apt-get reinstall libogmrip0
[07:21] <emergion> Hell i just updated my ubuntu machine but I have a laptop I just installed ubuntu on aswell. Can I use the same 200Mb of files I downloaded yesterday.  ( I have a tight ass download limit where I am.)
[07:21] <randal> devnOrE randal@randal-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get reinstall libogmrip0
[07:21] <randal> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[07:21] <DeVnOrE_> well gotto get some work done, migrating databases today... (yay)
[07:22] <simi_> i managed to enable SHMConfig but i can disable only the toucpad no the trackpoint, and i think that the trackpoint is IBM and not using synaptics
[07:22] <DeVnOrE_> randal: i'll connect to my ubuntubox
[07:22] <hareldvd> can I check which package a command belongs to?
[07:22] <BorkisDrizzt> what is the difference between apt-get purge and apt-get remove?
[07:22] <magnetron> emergion→ i'm not sure, but maybe you could do it with apt-cache. however most of the files the laptop needs will not be present
[07:22] <randal> devnOrE whats ubuntu box
[07:22] <wanna_learn_more> jockey is for gui?
[07:23] <DeVnOrE_> my ubuntu machine... :)
[07:23] <wanna_learn_more> any driver detected that runs on graphic?
[07:23] <randal> devnOrE i just went in package manager and reinstall but i dont think it worked
[07:23] <magnetron> BorkisDrizzt→ "purge" will remove all settings files related to the package
[07:23] <DeVnOrE_> i'm on a mac here so i can't check the commands :)
[07:23] <BorkisDrizzt> conf files and the like?
[07:23] <magnetron> BorkisDrizzt→ yes.
[07:23] <BorkisDrizzt> okay. I guessed right then :)
[07:24] <BorkisDrizzt> thanks for your help
[07:24] <randal> devnorE it didnt work any other ideas im trying to use ogmrip
[07:24] <DeVnOrE_> randal: you could try removing the package and purging the files and then reinstall
[07:24] <randal> devnOrE whats purging
[07:25] <DeVnOrE_> removing all conffiles related to the package
[07:25] <cdenny> how can i automount a hdd?>
[07:25] <DeVnOrE_> i'm sorry but i need to tend to my databases for a while...
[07:26] <cdenny> i formatted it to ext3
[07:26] <randal> devnOrE by doing a complete remove in package manager
[07:26] <emergion> magnetron: Do you know where apt-cache keeps the packages it grabs?
[07:26] <gh0st3r> using wireless how do i scan for available networks via the cmd line?
[07:26] <DeVnOrE_> nybody know a nice way to move all files not jpg to a different location while keeping the filestructure?
[07:27] <randal> devnOrE do i have to restart my computer after
[07:27] <DeVnOrE_> i'm using find to list the files but if i use exec and mv the files are kopied to a flat structure resulting in overwrites
[07:27] <magnetron> emergion→ no, but i know the man page will tell you all that.
[07:27] <randal> devnOrE any other ideas this didnt work
[07:27] <wahyu> hallo
[07:27] <DeVnOrE_> randal: not atm sry
[07:27] <emergion> I read it bit sketchy on the details ill have another look
[07:28] <randal> devnOrE ok thanks for your help :)
[07:28] <wanna_learn_more> there is any way to install ubuntu gui?
[07:28] <cdenny> my hdd isnt shown in ubuntu
[07:30] <Anna_111> just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install and the problem persists.
[07:30] <Flannel> wanna_learn_more: What do you mean?  You want to install a system with a GUI? you want to use a GUI to install?  You already have an install, and want to add a GUI?
[07:32] <wanna_learn_more> i already install intrepid ibex server and want to add gui
[07:32] <Flannel> wanna_learn_more: alright.  just install the ubuntu-desktop package (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[07:32] <wanna_learn_more> flannel:u know how to activate wireless driver on shell?
[07:33] <wanna_learn_more> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[07:33] <Anna_111> Flannel: Can you help me please? just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install and the problem persists.
[07:34] <emergion> magnetron: I found them under man apt-get thanks
[07:34] <magnetron> emergion→ cheers
[07:34] <wanna_learn_more> it donts give me clear solution,it said that i have to have kernel more than 2.6.25
[07:37] <jeancalvin> hi folks. I have dates and numbers. I need to predict when the number X will occur. how can i predict this?
[07:37] <doleyb> wanna_learn_more: so you're trying to make a wireless work?  is it a laptop?
[07:37] <wanna_learn_more> no.i38
[07:37] <wanna_learn_more> i386
[07:37] <wanna_learn_more> pentium 3 ~_~ really2 old2 pc
[07:37] <jeancalvin> for example; March 14 = 248,081. March 17= 249,358. ______ = 256,000?
[07:38] <wanna_learn_more> thats why i cant install any gui,very scared it doesnt work
[07:38] <Flannel> jeancalvin: Try #math
[07:38] <jeancalvin> Based on the history, what date will we get the number 256,000?
[07:38] <jeancalvin> Flannel: thanks.
[07:38] <adful123> hi how do i only have '$' instead of the whole name in terminal?
[07:40] <Anna_111>  just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done cleaem persists.
[07:40] <doleyb> adful123: try echo $prompt
[07:41] <NarbeH> can some one help me to install USB Conexant DGC modem for Dell XPS ?
[07:42] <adful123> uhm, seems like nothing happened
[07:42] <shauno> I believe the var is $PS1 (one, not eye), not $prompt
[07:43] <NarbeH> can some one help me to install USB Conexant DGC modem for Dell XPS ?
[07:45] <adful123> uhm, what do i do then after that?
[07:45] <adful123> kinda new here, sorry
[07:45] <Anna_111>  just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done cleaem persists.
[07:45] <doleyb> adful123: Well, try using a different PS1 variable, like maybe ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[07:46] <adful123> uhm, where do i set that?
[07:46] <doleyb> adful123: But you should maybe first try to see how it got set away from the default
[07:46] <doleyb> adful123: export PS1=new_thing
[07:46] <adful123> yeay! tnx :)
[07:47] <doleyb> adful123: Maybe you should place that export line into ~/.bashrc, so it's there for future sessions
[07:47] <adful123> kewl, thanks so much
[07:47] <adful123> can i see the default there too?
[07:48] <adful123> i guess i'll open it first
[07:48] <adful123> :)
[07:48] <adful123> thanks again
[07:48] <OrEvA> I installed real player from .rpm package file using alien but I dont know how to run it ....plz alyone can help me
[07:49] <doleyb> OrEvA: dpkg -l|grep realplayer; Followed by dpkg -L realplayer-something
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[07:49] <adful123> ahh, it's there alright.. thanks an :)
[07:50] <OrEvA> @doleyb i didn't understand
[07:51] <doleyb> OrEvA: run dpkg -l to see all packages on your system.  Then run dpkg -l|grep -i realplay to see ones with realplay in the names
[07:51] <doleyb> OrEvA: look for the one you just installed (which you should also be able to see by looking at the output of alien)
[07:52] <doleyb> OrEvA: Find that name, and pass it to dpkg -L, to see what files it has inserted into /usr/bin.  Execute those files to start the player.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> oh not alien :(
[07:52] <adful123> ahh cool one doleyb thanks too :)
[07:52] <yao_ziyuan> what is the "rich text" file format and editor in linux?
[07:53] <yao_ziyuan> just for informal WYSIWYG writing
[07:53] <g4lt-lappy> RTF is a microsoftism.  any decent editor should handle it, such as gvim or gedit
[07:53] <dronix> gedit
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: its basically a formatted text file with fonts, underlines, bold, italics and text alignments
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: you could use openoffice to view/edit
[07:53] <yao_ziyuan> gedit can edit rich text? awesome
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> for wysiwyg i'd use gedit or leafpad
[07:54] <g4lt-lappy> I think you gotta import it, but yeah
[07:54] <NarbeH> can some one help me to install USB Conexant DGC modem for Dell XPS ?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: plug it in, wait a few seconds, run lsusb in terminal
[07:54] <g4lt-lappy> RTF ain't exactly rocket science.  it's like two decades old now
[07:55] <yao_ziyuan> how do i create a rich text file with gedit?
[07:55] <ubunturrrrrrrrrr> всем привет
[07:55] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: ok
[07:55] <ubunturrrrrrrrrr> здесь есть русские??
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: one line will identify the chip, websearch for the hex didgits that represent the device
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> !ru | ubunturrrrrrrrrr
[07:56] <OrEvA> @doleyb it has no files in /usr/bin
[07:56] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: u know. i have installed the driver but wvdial says no modem detected. the result of lsusb Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0572:1324 Conexant Systems (Rockwell), Inc.
[07:56] <mf_417> Hi, is there any graphical configuration tool for LDAP Client in ubuntu?
[07:56] <doleyb> OrEvA: well it must have something in like /bin or /local/bin or stuff
[07:57] <doleyb> OrEvA: (Unless it's simply a plugin/codec which isn't meant to be executed on its own)
[07:58] <eL-GeWzZz> Good Morning ppl
[07:58] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: u know what is the problem?
[07:58] <OrEvA> @doleyb this was my output "http://paste.ubuntu.com/132334/"
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: wesearch for   ubuntu 0572:1324 conexant
[07:59] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: :-s
[07:59] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: /opt/real/RealPlayer/realplay is probably it
[07:59] <doleyb> Yes, that looks like it.  The good old /opt directory.
[07:59] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i don't know really what to do :-s
[07:59] <OrEvA> @doleyb ok let me try
[07:59] <eL-GeWzZz> it's possible to install iTunes 8.1 in Ubuntu? i had try Wine..but i have problems,when install QuickTime (package in Setup of iTunes) i have black screen and error message for the installation
[07:59] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: you know, realplayer is available through the medibuntu repository
[08:00] <eternaljoy> am I able to install Ubuntu on a 1GB USB stick and have it boot from it?
[08:00] <adante> is there a way to restart networking for just a single device?
[08:00] <OrEvA> @prince_jammys nope i didnt knew that
[08:00] <adante> like my eth0 is dhcp and works fine, but eth1 is static and after a resume is not set
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: you need to open your favourite search engine, www.google.com, www.msn.com, www.ask.com  and type that search string into the search box and click search
[08:01] <Lopan> eternaljoy: go to system>admin>create usb start disk
[08:01] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: Google. :)
[08:01] <prince_jammys> !medibuntu | OrEvA  : i'd install it through repository -
[08:01] <eternaljoy> Lopan: simple as that?
[08:01] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: then you'll get updates, etc.
[08:01] <Lopan> eternal joy: yarp
[08:01] <eternaljoy> Lopan: that must be new feature in 8.10.. that wasnt there in 8.04
[08:02] <Lopan> eternal joy: no it wasnt
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: they are all equal to me, i like choice
[08:02] <OrEvA> @prince_jammys thanx for ur help
[08:02] <mf_417> Hi, is there any graphical configuration tool for LDAP Client?
[08:02] <eternaljoy> Lopan: so system>admin>create usb start disk will create a boot 1GB USB Stick of Ubuntu?
[08:02] <OrEvA> @prince_jammys its working now
[08:02] <Lopan> eternal joy: i think so, not sure how big you need
[08:02] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: good
[08:02] <spc> this may sound dumb im new.. is there a way to have my wireless card startup at boot and keep the same ip address from my router? (a static one)
[08:03] <eternaljoy> Lopan: thats awesome of them to include that in 8.10
[08:03] <Lopan> eternal joy: indeed it is
[08:03] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i can't understand about the search results :-s
[08:04] <eternaljoy> Lopan: I like to have that as backup, in case my HD ever crashes, at least I can still load Ubuntu and connect to internet whilst I get a new HD
[08:04] <Scix> Where can I find whish models cups has the ppd files for in ubuntu 8.10?
[08:04] <EnlightenedAcer> hey does anyone know how to change the settings in E-17 so that the menu doesnt come up when you click on the background?
[08:04] <eternaljoy> EnlightenedAcer: whats E-17?
[08:04] <Lopan> eternal joy: i take mine to work and run it on their machines as a utility :3
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: http://www.nabble.com/modem-p19415884.html
[08:05] <eternaljoy> Lopan: awesome :)  and what I love about 8.10 is that it autoamtically connects me to my wireless internet
[08:05] <banteng> anyone here knows hot install omnibot in etwolf?
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> eternaljoy: Enlightenment desktop environment
[08:05] <prince_jammys> EnlightenedAcer: i'd try #enlightenment
[08:05] <eternaljoy> EnlightenedAcer: ah ok
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> #enlightenment
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> ahh
[08:05] <eternaljoy> banteng: sorry, too complicated for me
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> haha, nvm
[08:05] <prince_jammys> with a /join in there
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> yeah yeah
[08:06] <prince_jammys> small channel, but more likely that you'll get help
[08:06] <darek33333333> siema
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: looks like you will becomiling stuff
[08:06] <darek33333333> jak natym gadac bo nowy jestem
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> *be compiling
[08:06] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: sorry?
[08:06] <darek33333333> pomozcie
[08:07] <banteng> eternaljoy: any good reference?
[08:07] <EnlightenedAcer> prince_jammys: thanks.. btw
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: you may have to compile a driver, rockwell are winmodems
[08:07] <eternaljoy> banteng: sorry i dont know
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | NarbeH
[08:07] <prince_jammys> EnlightenedAcer: welcome
[08:07] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: but i have the driver :-s
[08:07] <spc> this may sound dumb im new.. is there a way to have my wireless card startup at boot and keep the same ip address from my router? (a static one)
[08:07] <Guest42185> hi all
[08:07] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/dgc/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[08:08] <carpii> spc, sure. assuming you mean an internal ip
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: looks good
[08:08] <spc> carpii: yes.. one that my router would assign me.. however i would like it to remain the same always.. (so i can remotely reboot)
[08:08] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: but i said, no modem detected....
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: if you run: sudo lshw -C modem   does it show up
[08:09] <Lopan> I keep getting an error whenever I attempt to install stuff, output here paste.ubuntu.com/132338/
[08:09] <carpii> spc: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[08:09] <spc> carpii: thanks.. i will check it out..
[08:09] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: nothing ...
[08:10] <uncategorized> sometimes, i have needed to restart alsa
[08:10] <uncategorized> running /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:10] <uncategorized> actually seems to break it
[08:10] <uncategorized> as it never detects any audio devies again
[08:10] <uncategorized> unless i restart
[08:10] <uncategorized> how can i fix this without a restart
[08:10] <cjae> I was using kubuntu but a friend had ubuntu, so id mount manager what he wants so he can see ntfs partitions on the windows partition same drive?
[08:10] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: hey hey
[08:10] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i found it i think
[08:10] <cjae> -id +if
[08:11] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: sudo dgcconfig
[08:11] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i entered this
[08:11] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: and modem i think found :D
[08:11] <TuTUXG> !dselect
[08:11] <wanna_learn_more> there is any apt command to search for binary?
[08:11] <cjae> !info dselect
[08:12] <cjae> :p
[08:12] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132339/
[08:12] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: plz. see and is it ok?
[08:12] <wanna_learn_more> !info make
[08:12] <wanna_learn_more> i see2
[08:12] <wanna_learn_more> !info ath5k
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: cool, i found this which points to that site you gave me: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-eighth/msg02895.html
[08:13] <wanna_learn_more> !info madwifi
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: here is the man page for the conf file http://linux.die.net/man/5/wvdial.conf
[08:13] <cjae> !ntfs
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: you'll find theres a gui for it, looks like you got the modem detected though
[08:13] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: hmm. ok wait to test
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: dont edit the wvdial.conf i think tat just got setup
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | NarbeH
[08:14] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: yeah the modem found on /dev/ttyACM0
[08:15] <TuTUXG> !tmp
[08:15] <ecret> anyone have a sip phone that wouldnt mind doing a quick test?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: cool, then read ubottu's guide
[08:16] <Myztikal_> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10 installed on my computer
[08:16] <Myztikal_> is it still possible to update from that
[08:16] <Myztikal_> ?
[08:16] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: thq :) for helping me.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: np man, ubuntu and linux take a lot of websearching to get things moving
[08:17] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i know. i do it always. but when my English is bad ... :D
[08:18] <owen1___> if i create a C application, will i be able to run it on windows/mac?
[08:18] <Juhaz> owen1___, if you write it right.
[08:19] <owen1___> Juhaz: what is 'right'?
[08:19] <linuxonmac> owen1___ : I would lean more towards Objective style C
[08:19] <uncategorized> how can i figure out what modules are loaded at startup....i think i need to modprobe my sound card
[08:19] <ActionParsnip1> NarbeH: just try to understand guides online, if you dont get one, try another
[08:20] <ActionParsnip1> uncategorized: you can add its name to /etc/modules
[08:20] <Juhaz> owen1___, only use libraries that are available for all platforms, stick to basic C rather than using compiler/platform specific extensions, etc.
[08:20] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip1: thq :)
[08:20] <sleepy_cat> can someone give me a site that takes very long to load
[08:20] <uncategorized> ActionParsnip1: i want to find out what my computer loads currently, as i need to mimic those command snow
[08:21] <shay27m> Hello , can  someone please recommend me on good tool for creating / editing html/php websites code?
[08:21] <jlmones> my firefox just stopped wokring and it says child process when i try to load it
[08:21] <owen1___> Juhaz: where can i find info about such libraries? also, what about c++?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> uncategorized: you could run: lsmod to see what is loaded currently
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: run: ps -ef | grep fire
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: is it still running?
[08:22] <mylisto> anyone know of a voice changer for ubuntu?
[08:22] <jlmones> no
[08:22] <mylisto> preferably in realtime
[08:22] <linuxonmac> owen1___: if your just starting out and want to try making basic apps look into realbasic as a compiler
[08:23] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: what if you run firefox from terminal, you should get intelligent output
[08:23] <jlmones> how do i run it in terminal?
[08:24] <Juhaz> owen1___, pretty much the same thing goes for c++. the libs are something you'll have to look on your own, I can't know what you need or want to use, if anything.
[08:24] <Titan8990> jlmones, type: firefox
[08:24] <Swin_> I've got a harddrive with critical info failing. Head was stuck. I tapped & freed it. The drive is in an enclosure in a mini-fridge next to me. Drive is mounted. What command do I use to recover specific directories ignoring errors? ddrescue only works on files unless there's a script
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: type firefox and press enter
[08:25] <owen1___> linuxonmac: Juhaz: thank for the tips!  i want to write a small (no UI) app that listens to changes in a textfile and send info to my server about those changes.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: you can launch any app from terminal
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: and you can also do anything you can do in gui in terminal (except flash in websites)
[08:26] <stoic_> What is the easiest way to enable squashfs 1.0 support ?
[08:26] <jlmones> says it wasnt installed am installing
[08:26] <owen1___> linuxonmac: Juhaz : and i want it to run on mac windows as well so i thought about c/c++.
[08:27] <Nalf> owen1___, good luck with that network stuff. ^_-
[08:27] <owen1___> Nalf: (-: is it PITA in c?
[08:27] <Nalf> owen1___, I suggest you look into Code blocks. http://www.codeblocks.org/
[08:28] <quibbler> mylisto: Audacity?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> !terminal | jlmones
[08:28] <Swin_> My Linux skills are amateur, I was running ddrescue on whole drive but it was dangerously slow (also it's nowhere near full to its 300gig capacity), then I realized I should work with it mounted. Tried copying with file browser but hit errors and realized this was stupid.
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> !info squashfs-tools | stoic_
[08:28] <Nalf> owen1___, last I knew, pita was made out of wheat. ;) Sorry, I'm not familiar with what you're talking about.
[08:28] <wanna_learn_more> ubottu:how to enable driver via terminal?
[08:28] <owen1___> Nalf: looks nice! almost sweet as my vim..
[08:29] <owen1___> Nalf: pain in the ass
[08:29] <stoic_> !info squashfs-tools
[08:29] <Nalf> owen1___, I don't l ike it to much, but to each their own, I suppose. Anyways, codeblocks runs great in ubuntu.
[08:29] <wanna_learn_more> !driver
[08:30] <spc> does anyone know how to start my wireless on boot without logging in to desktop
[08:30] <stoic_> im relatively new to linux and I found that squashfs 3.x is not backwards compatable and I know nothing of patching the kernel
[08:30] <wanna_learn_more> !jffs
[08:30] <wanna_learn_more> !make
[08:30]  * Cosmo gives wanna_learn_more :wanna_learn_more!n=wanna_le@114.57.34.199 PRIVMSG #ubuntu :-!make,  and  - what can you make of them?
[08:30] <stoic_> and cant find an install package for earlier versions
[08:30] <owen1___> Nalf: cool. will it help me in writing code that will run on windows as well?
[08:30] <owen1___> Nalf: btw, is there c/c++ irc chat?
[08:31] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c++
[08:31] <Nalf> owen1___, there you go.;)
[08:31] <maxagaz> where can i find the *original* repository file of Intrepid ?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> stoic_: sudo apt-get install squashfs-tools
[08:32] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c++newbie
[08:32] <Swin_> ! Nevermind I found just what I was looking for here: http://vytautas.jakutis.lt/node/6 Thanks.
[08:33] <maxb> maxagaz: What do you mean?
[08:33] <mylisto> quibbler: not audacity
[08:33] <owen1___> quibbler: Nalf what about c?
[08:33] <mylisto> I need a program that I can use with skype to change my voice...
[08:33] <mylisto> doing some online hypnosis...
[08:33] <maxagaz> maxb, i'm looking for the original /etc/apt/sources.list of intrepid
[08:33] <koshari> spc can you get it to work at all without gui? if so jsut write a script of what you did to get it going
[08:33] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c
[08:34] <sniper0269> I have a question.... What is that that system monitor I see in screen shots that tells you the time and a full system report
[08:34] <mylisto> so when I tell the person 'sooner or later you will notice my voice changing...' then change voice a little bit 'the fact that my voice has begun to change means you're entering an even deeper hypnotic trance'
[08:34] <mylisto> :D
[08:34] <jlmones> still cant get firefox to work says that theres no such file
[08:34] <durt> sniper0269, screen shots of what?
[08:34] <jlmones> so i currently dont have any web browser
[08:35] <owen1___> quibbler: i type /j #c but it's not going anywhere...
[08:35] <sniper0269> just linux screen shots...
[08:35] <HarassmentPanda> mylisto: http://www.codeplex.com/skypefx
[08:35] <durt> sniper0269, be a bit more specific
[08:35] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c
[08:35] <HarassmentPanda> mylisto: it's windows only
[08:35] <emretemp> guys my gnome-panel keeps crashing, this is really annoying, anyone knows where can I get any kind of error logs (if gnome-applet writes some logs)
[08:35] <mylisto> well...
[08:35] <mylisto> can't use it then
[08:35] <maxb> maxagaz: Hmm... I don't know what generates the initial content. I suggest you just configure it how you like. (using System > Administration > Software Sources if you're not familiar with the text format)
[08:36] <HarassmentPanda> mylsito: I don't know how much luck your going to have finding a specific program that would do what your looking for in real time. You could try migrating this source, it's in c#
[08:36] <sniper0269> here is a link....http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=71993&file1=71993-1.jpg&file2=71993-2.jpg&file3=71993-3.jpg&name=SlicknesS
[08:37] <stoic_> ActionParsnip1: just installs the upgraded version
[08:37] <maxagaz> maxb, it didn't work well
[08:37] <spc> koshari: yes it works.. however i'm new to ubuntu and i want to run it headless (vnc when needed) and wireless however to get the wireless started i have to logon to the desktop and it starts automatically
[08:37] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[08:37] <maxagaz> maxb, i just deleted the original one, i'd like to have it back
[08:37] <jlmones> this is what it says when i try to launch firefox Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)
[08:38] <quibbler> gladio70: /join #ubuntu-it
[08:38]  * maxb greps things
[08:38] <spc> koshari: I'm very new.. hell this is the first time i've been on irc in 10 years
[08:38] <Kajarly>  #drupal-support
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> stoic_: its not something i use but maybe theres a menu option or something
[08:38] <BorkisDrizzt> Why can't I find TuxRacer in synaptic?
[08:38] <maxb> maxagaz: /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> stoic_: it may simply give you the squashfs type for mounting
[08:39] <spc> koshari: i also want to keep the same ip address.. (which is easy when i;m wired to my router)
[08:39] <sniper0269> does anyone know what monitor this is .......(clicky) http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=71993&fi
[08:40] <jlmones> does anyone know what to do about reinstalling firefox? i tried through terminal but it says i have the latest version
[08:40] <DJones> BorkisDrizzt: Have a look for extremetuxracer that might be the equivalent package to TuxRacer
[08:40] <Kajarly> stupid ubuntu somehow "forgot" what default app should open irc:// ... How do i join a certain channel?
[08:40] <sniper0269> jlmones have you done a apt-get purge firefox
[08:41] <stoic_> ActionParsnip1:  ill check it out, thanks, reading on compiling from ubuntu website see if I can learn to compile the old version
[08:41] <twocarlo> Kajarly:/j #nameofchannel
[08:42] <jlmones> Yes
[08:42] <lanoxx_> whats the name of gnomes standard unzip program?
[08:42] <maxagaz> maxb, this file is for hardy
[08:42] <EnlightenedAcer> hey has anyone here ever tried Elive?
[08:42] <Kajarly> twocarlo: that didn
[08:42] <Kajarly> 't work
[08:43] <Kajarly> now it did lol
[08:43] <fliegenderfrosch> lanoxx_: file-roller
[08:44] <pozic> How can I disable the playing of the sound I get when gdm is completely started? Also, when I run alsamixer and mute the sound, on restart the mixer is unmuted again.
[08:44] <ecret> can someone with a sip phone please try calling me?
[08:44] <lanoxx_> thx fliegenderfrosch
[08:44] <sniper0269> Could someone look at this....
[08:44] <sniper0269> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=71993&file1=71993-1.jpg&file2=71993-2.jpg&file3=71993-3.jpg&name=SlicknesS
[08:45] <sniper0269> I want to know what is being use to monitor the system
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> sniper0269: looks like conky to me
[08:45] <EnlightenedAcer> pozic: go to your login screen settings/accessibility then you can change the sounds
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> sniper0269: or superkaramba
[08:45] <sniper0269> tx ActionParsnipl
[08:46] <jlmones> tried installing firefox and it says firefox cannot be found in terminal
[08:46] <EnlightenedAcer> pozic: system administration/login screen/accessibility
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[08:47] <EnlightenedAcer> pozic: i got a text to speech app made a wav file and got a personal welcome msg ;) ..as a suggestion
[08:47] <Nalf> Anyone have a radeon hd 4850 and issues with fglrx?
[08:48] <Debolaz> Trying to install daemontools-run in 8.10, I get an error message that /etc/inittab doesn't exist. Do I need to install some other package to get inittab?
[08:48] <Extreme_b> hi, can anyone help mi with setting up a iscsi on my ubuntu
[08:48] <Extreme_b> pls
[08:48] <pozic> EnlightenedAcer: yes, I had thought about that too. It would also be nice if I could control the machine with my voice. Simple things like "NEXT" for next song would be nice.
[08:48] <I1> i have to uso the "crash" command but the man page is not enought for me to understand....somebody knows a web page with a tutorial or something else????
[08:48] <joetheodd> Drive geometry question.. is the "beginning" of a hard drive physically located at the middle or outside?
[08:48] <Guest94595> sorry, got no song ;(
[08:48] <Extreme_b> hi, can anyone help mi with setting up a iscsi on my ubuntu
[08:48] <joetheodd> Cause the outside of the disk is faster than the inside
[08:49] <ecret> can someone please try calling my sip phone? address is 99.246.65.73
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | ecret
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> !ati | nalf
[08:50] <jlmones> gaaaah it just stops in terminal at Setting up firefox (3.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1) ...
[08:51] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, that doesn't work.
[08:51] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, there are people all over who have had issues with it and any 'work around' I have seen doesn't really work. From what I have read, it seems that the driver doesn't work well with the bundled version of X.
[08:51] <Tryfon> hi guys how i am having input from a file to a string and i am using getline . i want where ever there is a comma to act as endline and save the number(int this case to the string). this i have done so far but with some problems... the original \n in the input is ommited and i  get wrong results..
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=849530
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: you could message this dude to ask how he got his/her's working: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FU_ZiHORI
[08:53] <Tryfon> any body have any ideas how to have comma and \n act both as endofline
[08:53] <Tryfon> ?
[08:53] <stoic_> autoconf is giving me a no input file error message
[08:53] <I1> anybody can help me with the crash command????
[08:54] <Gloonix> yo
[08:54] <jlmones> any other ideas?
[08:55] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, 8.04
[08:55] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, it has a different version of X.:P
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: same driver though right, maybe its a bug
[08:57] <Skaarj> hi
[08:57] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, that's what people have been saying.
[08:57] <jlmones> maybe a different web browser?
[08:57] <sinelaw> how can i see what ppa a package was installed from?
[08:58] <sinelaw> (i'm pretty sure it came from a ppa)
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/325394
[08:58] <pozic> !ppa
[08:58] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, if I install the driver X crashes. Uninstalling it doesn't work. Tried a billion different xorg.confs.. yeah, I saw that.
[08:58] <wanna_learn_more> !kernel-header
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/28118
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> !kernel-headers
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> hi how to install kernel-headers for intrepid ?
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> !GNU
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> !GPL
[08:59] <Skaarj> i need to create an opensuse-chroot, therefore i need zypper (rpm-package-manager) does someone know an respository which provides zypper ?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Radeon_HD_4850_Linux_Performance_s114475.html
[09:00] <timahvo1> hi all
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: i dont use ati cards so im not much help, i can websearch like the best of em though
[09:00] <sinelaw> pozic, that does not answer my question.
[09:00] <sniper0269_> do i need a boot partition if I am dual booting with Vista and I wanted to be crazy and let windoze handle the booting...
[09:00] <sniper0269_>  or do I
[09:00] <xiliu> HI, My Ubuntu 8.19 X-Server cannot start
[09:00] <linuxonmac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:00] <stoic_> This is such a pain, does anyone know how to enable squashfs 1.0 support?
[09:00] <mylisto> harassmentpanda: how do I migrate the c# source?
[09:00] <sinelaw> my question is how can i see what ppa a package was installed from?
[09:00] <mylisto> no idea how to do that
[09:01] <xiliu> when it start, it has been watiting and hanged there
[09:01] <HarassmentPanda> mylisto: you would need to use mono and know how to program in c#
[09:01] <timahvo1> just upgarded my kernel via synaptic and ran update-grub but no change in my menu.list. do I need to edit my menu.list manually to reflect the changes ?
[09:01] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, hehe.. I saw most of that stuff.. just didn't have any luck with it. From what I gathered the x version that ships with 8.10 is incompatible with the driver because of a driver issue.  so people are waiting on ATI.
[09:01] <Tryfon> any body have any ideas how to have comma and \n act both as endofline?
[09:01] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, maybe if I get bored later I'll install 8.04 and play around with it for awhile.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: sounds about righ
[09:01] <mylisto> harassmentpanda: we'll no idea then
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: always waiting for ati to get their finger out, sounds like the 90s ;)
[09:02] <timahvo1> just upgarded my kernel via synaptic and ran update-grub but no change in my menu.list. do I need to edit my menu.list manually to reflect the changes ?
[09:03] <nteunga> i have a question. i'm new here.
[09:03] <aprilhare> nteunga: yes you are new here. any other questions? :)
[09:03] <Skaarj> tom17bombadil_: usually you dont need to do manual changes to grub
[09:03] <nteunga> i want to know how can i write a css-language on wiki?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: nope its all done for you
[09:04] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: so after a reboot my new kernel should appear on my menu.list ?
[09:04] <Nalf> timahvo1, yup, it should.
[09:04] <wanna_learn_more> hi how to install kernel-headers for intrepid ?
[09:05] <timahvo1> am running hardy if thats of any relevance
[09:05] <Skaarj> wanna_learn_more: there are packages called something like "linux-hreaders..." ... just install them
[09:05] <jlmones> how come it wont let me burn dvds even though i have bresero burning
[09:05] <nteunga> i want to make a design for a website. and it is on a wiki-page
[09:05] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: Nalf thanks guys
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: yes
[09:06]  * Nalf needs to get up in five hours.. to go to sleep or not.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> wanna_learn_more: uname -a; apt-cache search headers | grep linux
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> wanna_learn_more: install the package name that matches your kernel version
[09:07] <Skaarj> i need to create an opensuse-chroot, therefore i need zypper (rpm-package-manager) does someone know an respository which provides zypper for ubuntu/debian ?
[09:07] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, after upgrading to 10/08 my menu.lst was broken. after correcting that, I was able to boot again, but very slow, because some daemons have been added to several runlevels, which caused to slow the process down...
[09:07] <twocarlo> im cowboy ...dead or alive
[09:07] <I1> i need to know where is the "debuginfo" file of my ubuntu distro....how can i find it?
[09:08] <jlmones> how do i install ubuntu firefox?
[09:08] <Skaarj> tom17bombadil_: backup menu.lst .. delte it ... run grub-install
[09:08] <aprilhare> jlmones: it should already come with ubuntu.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:08] <Nalf> I1: sudo updatedb and then locate debuginfo. a lot of log files are located in /var/log
[09:08] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, I think I have chosen the wrong answer for some question during upgrading
[09:08] <Skaarj> tom17bombadil_: maybe run update-initramfs -u ALL too
[09:09] <aprilhare> does anyone else have trouble viewing this video? http://www.gnu.org/fry/
[09:09] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, you think that might speed-up boot-process?
[09:10] <Skaarj> it dont think it will make it slower ...
[09:11] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, I will give it a try. Thanks for the hint!
[09:11] <jlmones> i tried that i just say ; unable to resolve host kurt
[09:12] <Guest76573> ciao
[09:12] <Guest76573> !list
[09:14] <I1> i made a "find / -name debuginfo" but i hadn't found any files......why???? where the debuginfo of my distro????
[09:16] <I1> i need this file : "namelist:This  is  a  pathname to an uncompressed kernel image (a vmlinuxfile) that has been compiled with the "-g option, or  that  has an  accessible,  associated,  debuginfo  file.   If the dumpfile argument is entered, then this argument must also be  used.   If the namelist argument is not entered and no dumpfile argument is entered, crash will search in several typical directories for  a kernel namelist that matches the live system." h
[09:17] <jlmones> unable to resolve host?
[09:17] <Skaarj> I1: find searches for the exact filename by default ... maybe running find / -iname "*debuginfo*" as root helps
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[09:19] <quibbler> aprilhare: i take it you can not play the video...what video plugins do you have?
[09:20] <afancy> Hi, my X-server cannot start after i have installed a software last night. when the xserver start, it was hanged there for waiting. I have check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it said "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatiable NVIDIA X dirver not found)", Could anybody tell me how to fix this problem? thanks in advanced!!
[09:20] <jlmones> permission denie
[09:20] <jlmones> denied*
[09:21] <aprilhare> quibbler: all of the above. i'll try getting it via torrent instead - it seems more like a network issue than a software issue
[09:21] <Skaarj> afancy: try folwing : backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... then replace "nvidia" by "nv" in this file and reboot
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: as a user you can open the file and copy the conents
[09:21] <jlmones> how
[09:21] <jlmones> ?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: copy all the text and paste it to a pastebin, then give us the link you go to
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> !paste
[09:22] <Skaarj> afancy: also delting your /etc/X11/corg.conf may help (if this file is missing at startup and failsafe default is generated, but dont forget to backup)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> Skaarj: rename is better
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> Skaarj: allows rolling back, there no way back if you delete
[09:23] <Skaarj> i need to create an opensuse-chroot, therefore i need zypper (rpm-package-manager) does someone know an respository which provides zypper for ubuntu/debian ?
[09:23] <vigo> Is Xubuntu an energy saver, i.e. Gnome uses XX.watts and Xfce uses xx.watts?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> vigo: xubuntu uses less ram
[09:24] <afancy> Skaarj: so you mean i need to delete corg.conf
[09:24] <MrCarlos> hello i want to install quicktime can someone helpme please http://pastebin.com/d5018fdbc
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old
[09:24] <vigo> ActionParsnip1: Thank you
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: is what Skaarj meant to sugest
[09:25] <afancy> Ok, thanks a lot
[09:25] <afancy> ok, i will be back a moment , see you then
[09:25] <Tryfon> any body have any ideas how to have comma and \n act both as endofline?
[09:26] <vigo> Don't forget the backup part.
[09:26] <jlmones> wont allow me to open link
[09:26] <vigo> ooops
[09:26] <MrCarlos> hello i want to install quicktime can someone helpme please http://pastebin.com/d5018fdbc
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:26] <ak47> hiall
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> !quicktime | MrCarlos
[09:27] <linux_> what will  heppened
[09:27] <Tryfon> somebody tell me that am speaking in the wrong chan!!:P
[09:27] <linux_> this place is interesting
[09:29] <jlmones> says unable to resolve host then starts running it
[09:30] <BABER> hi
[09:30] <Skaarj> hi
[09:30] <BABER> what command i have to use for run ssh?
[09:30] <D3ebaby> hey
[09:30] <MrCarlos> hello i want to install quicktime can someone helpme please http://pastebin.com/d5018fdbc
[09:31] <sprinkmeier> BABER, do you want an ssh client or server? the SSH client si simply called "ssh", asl in "ssh user@host"
[09:31] <quibbler> MrCarlos: why do you wish to install quicktime what do you want to do?
[09:31] <Skaarj> BABER: to use ssh as client : ssh username@server ... to use it as server install the sshd package
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: can you put my name at the start of your lines, you see how your name highlights when i address you? thats not an accident
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: you can tab complete names
[09:32] <dronix> MeCarlos: u can just install the w32codes and use vlc
[09:32] <dronix> MrCarlos: u can just install the w32codes and use vlc
[09:32] <MrCarlos> quibbler i have a mov file and the system doesnt want to download codec
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: ssh is the command in terminal
[09:32] <MrCarlos> dronix
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: for the client
[09:32] <dronix> ?
[09:33] <BABER> Skaarj: i want connect to a windows system
[09:33] <quibbler> MrCarlos: you can install vlc which plays mov files
[09:33] <MrCarlos> dronix: how can i install the w32codes
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: windows doesnt naturally have an ssd server
[09:33] <carpii> !mediabuntu | MrCarlos
[09:33] <dronix> MrCarlos: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[09:33] <sprinkmeier> BABER, windows systems generally dont run ssh servers. Do you want to run a client (like putty) on the windows box to talk to a linux box?
[09:33] <MrCarlos> quibbler i have vlc and nothing
[09:34] <sprinkmeier> !putty | BABER
[09:34] <jlmones> ok
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> !medibuntu | MrCarlos
[09:34] <BABER> sprinkmeier: yes i want connect to a windows client with ubuntu with ssh command
[09:35] <Mkman> BABER:  you can?
[09:35] <sprinkmeier> BABER, then you need to instal an ssh server on linux and putty on windows. "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" will install a server
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: then you will need to instal an ssh service on your windows box t connect to, ##windows can advise there
[09:36] <sprinkmeier> BABER, follow the link ubottu gave above to get putty for windows
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: if you want to connect TO windows FROM linux
[09:36] <Dark> hello
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: if you want to use a windows client to connect to an ubunt ssh server then putty is a fine choice
[09:36] <vigo> OpenSSH and there are some others that work in/on windows, openswan does.
[09:37] <nteunga> i don't know how to attach a css-language to the wiki-site?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | nteunga
[09:38] <Skaarj> i need to create an opensuse-chroot, therefore i need zypper (rpm-package-manager) does someone know an respository which provides zypper for ubuntu/debian ?
[09:38] <KuRT-CoBaIN>  † :T: †  wenas  † :T: † 
[09:38] <KuRT-CoBaIN>  † :T: †  xD  † :T: † 
[09:38] <dronix> no
[09:39] <numskull> anyone know much about software raids, LVMs and mirror's which have lost a half?
[09:39] <KuRT-CoBaIN>  † :T: †  .wena  † :T: † 
[09:39] <KuRT-CoBaIN> Hola, Bienvenid@ \|/ [[ ]] \|/ ¿Como estas?... Pero, pasa pasa!!! Ponte comod@ Bienvenid@ (a) \m/ [[#ubuntu]] \m/  :D espero ke la pases muy bien =)
[09:39] <sprinkmeier> numskull, some... not claiming to be an expert (that costs double :-)
[09:39] <vigo> Skaarj: Yes it does, search alien
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> !chroot | Skaarj
[09:40] <numskull> sprinkmeier, ahh so an arm for support and an extra leg for liability aye? sound business plan haha
[09:40] <EugenA> hi, how do i install latest vmware server on ubuntu? i cannot build the vmware module
[09:40] <EugenA> ubuntu 8.10
[09:41] <numskull> sprinkmeier, basically this server got dropped of its desk/bench/table
[09:41] <gladiator> hi.. i was installing pear from source.. and i aborted it.. then installed using apt.. and it is still installing it in the directory i was installing it into
[09:41] <numskull> sprinkmeier, and as it does one of the disks died big time. the second disk however seems to be up and going okay
[09:41] <gladiator> tried apt-get purge php-pear. and then install.. but it still installs it in the same directory
[09:42] <gladiator> any clues?
[09:42] <numskull> sprinkmeier, however the one that died is the one that contains the boot sector and nice important stuff like that.
[09:42] <sprinkmeier> numskull, what was the setup? RAID0? RAID1? LVM?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> gladiator: reinstalling will always install to the same directory
[09:42] <vigo> gladiator: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/en/man8/apt-get.8.html <<may help
[09:42] <numskull> sprinkmeier, 0
[09:42] <namasamaran> ce_viking
[09:42] <numskull> sprinkmeier, sorry i mean 1
[09:42] <numskull> sprinkmeier, with LVMs :S
[09:43] <afancy> Hi, the problem is still unsoved
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> gladiator: the package from apt had a directory structure to put data where its needed
[09:43] <vigo> gladiator: That page shows how to fix, clean up, or repair packages
[09:43] <numskull> sprinkmeier, it also has iDisk's with raid0's but they are unimportant until i can get the other system up again
[09:43] <gladiator> vigo, ActionParsinp1: ok.. let me check it out
[09:43] <gladio70> ubuntu-it
[09:44] <afancy> Skaarj: Hi, there? the problem is till unsolved
[09:44] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[09:44] <quibbler> gladio70: /join #ubuntu-it
[09:44] <sprinkmeier> numskull, then you;re probably out of luck. RAID0 aka striping sprinkles the data as far and as wide as it can in an effort to improve performance. loosing one disk pretty much means you're hosed.
[09:44] <vigo> gladio70: put a /#
[09:44] <sprinkmeier> numskull, can you dd_rescue any of the dead disk?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> sprinkmeier: which is why raid0 isnt really raid
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> numskull: got backup?
[09:44] <numskull> sprinkmeier, its no 0
[09:45] <numskull> sprinkmeier, i got it wrong first time its 1
[09:45] <numskull> sprinkmeier, so we are okay ish
[09:45] <afancy> Skaarj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132371/
[09:45] <Skaarj> afancy: i am trying to get zypper by using alien, but i does wor because zypper is a very complex software , so im open for more advice
[09:45] <gladiator> vigo: thats a man page for apt... i already tried apt-get purge package-name
[09:45] <numskull> sprinkmeier, the drive is okay haven't been able to mount the LVM partition
[09:45] <numskull> sprinkmeier, as in i haven't tried
[09:46] <sprinkmeier> numskull, Can you re-create the software RAID set?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> numskull: sure, dd the data from one drive to another and you're fine. your array should rebuild itself if its hard raid rather than garbage onboard
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> numskull: you'll need to replace the disk
[09:46] <numskull> ActionParsnip1, yeah i have backup
[09:46] <vigo> gladiator: That one also shows about resume, repair and update sources list, and much more in the manual!
[09:46] <BABER> Skaarj: i installed ssh-server now i type ssh localhost  when enter root password this error appear the permision denied why?
[09:46] <numskull> ActionParsnip1, replacements aren't a problem
[09:47] <Skaarj> afancy: i dont know enough to help you further , youll have to find someone else
[09:47] <numskull> ActionParsnip1, restore from backup isn't possible at the moment
[09:47] <sprinkmeier> numskull, if you have a recent backup then just re-create the RAID/LVM array the way you want it and restore... (make sure you keep that second working disk though, just in case the backup isn't as recent as you thought or the restore fails :-)
[09:47] <Skaarj> BABER: root is disabled under ubuntu ...  ty the name of an useraccount
[09:47] <sprinkmeier> BABER, ssh denies root logon by default. log on as a normal user and sudo if you have to.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: when you connect, log in as you
[09:47] <numskull> sprinkmeier, big issue is that the guy who knows about the backups is currently on a plane to LA from NZ
[09:48] <AndrFr> hi all
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: loggin in as root over ssh is a really bad idea anyways
[09:48] <Appocc> hi
[09:48] <afancy> Hi, my X-server cannot start after i have installed a software last night. when the xserver start, it was hanged there for waiting. I have check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it said "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatiable NVIDIA X dirver not found)", Could anybody tell me how to fix this problem? thanks in advanced!!
[09:48] <sprinkmeier> numskull, in that case, image the remaining disk before you do ANYTHING else. just in case....
[09:48] <afancy> This is my Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/132371/
[09:48] <Appocc> can anybody help me??
[09:48] <AndrFr> is there any good howto that can help me conect a linux machine to a ebox domain (trough winbind)?
[09:48] <numskull> sprinkmeier, the remaining disk can boot somewhat
[09:49] <sprinkmeier> numskull, then try to re-create the software-RAID disk-set. ONce that's done an vlm-scan should find the LVM stuff which should then be mountable again (give or take an fsck)
[09:49] <Appocc> my internet connection is intermitent... sometimes it works. so it.. by itself
[09:49] <numskull> sprinkmeier, i gave it an mbr and pointed it at the disk
[09:49] <numskull> sprinkmeier, but...
[09:49] <Appocc> so it stops.. but i keep connected
[09:49] <numskull> sprinkmeier, it drops me into a busybox terminal before getting to logon prompt
[09:49] <ramavadakattu> Newbie : Can any one please suggest me good editor other than vi? iam struggling with   vi.
[09:49] <Appocc> but my firefox cant open anything.. so i wait a little and it came back
[09:50] <urbinek> hi
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> numskull: if you bang in a replacement and boot to live cd, you can dd the data to create an extra raid disk
[09:50] <Appocc> hi
[09:50] <numskull> sprinkmeier, i'm starting to think that restore from backup is where i'm gonna go but i have come here as a last ditch effort
[09:50] <sprinkmeier> numskull, IMAGE THE DISK! Whatever you do, you want to make sure you don't make things worse. If anything fails, if a dd goes the wrong way, if the RAID1 repllicates the wrong way or whatever the last thing you want to do is loose the only good copy of the data you currently have available.
[09:50] <Appocc> can anybody help me plz???
[09:50] <urbinek> Appocc: ?
[09:50] <sprinkmeier> numskull, nusybox sounds like it cant find all of itself. Either do a restore or install a fresh ubuntu system and try to mount the old disks from it.
[09:51] <DJones> !editors | ramavadakattu
[09:51] <urbinek> Where i can find which line in MBMON shows which temp ?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> Appocc: if you ping 38.99.130.180 and watch, do you drop pakets
[09:51] <numskull> sprinkmeier, yes backups are available.
[09:51] <AndrFr> i need help connecting a ubuntu linux workstation to an ebox domain, but i need that the linux works with pam_winbind because i have some workstations restriction in samba that i want to enforce. does anyone can help me?
[09:51] <numskull> sprinkmeier, okay
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> ramavadakattu: if you want terminal based editors, nano is decent
[09:52] <ramavadakattu> yes iam actually looking for terminal based editors
[09:53] <gladiator> vigo: i'm still lost. is there a way to clear preferences for a particular packgae?
[09:53] <ramavadakattu> Thanks  will check out nano (apt-get install nano)
[09:53] <urbinek> ramavadakattu: try nano
[09:53] <Skaarj> ramavadakattu: nano, pico , ee are simple editors for console ; vim , joe and emacs are more advanced ones
[09:53] <urbinek> gladiator: apt-get -f remove --purge package
[09:53] <maxagaz> how to look for a file which is in the current directory recursively ?
[09:53] <ramavadakattu> Skaarj;  ok .
[09:53] <maxagaz> (using CLI)
[09:54] <urbinek> ramavadakattu: mc have good editor
[09:54] <urbinek> dog*
[09:54] <urbinek> god*
[09:54] <sprinkmeier> maxagaz, use "find . -name WILDCARD -ls"
[09:54] <vigo> gladiator: Yes, let me look again.
[09:55] <pozic> maxagaz: if it is in the current directory, it's not recursively. You probably meant to say _below_ the current directory.
[09:55] <ramavadakattu> urbinek : thanks wil check it out.Actually i need only terminal based editors
[09:55] <maxagaz> pozic, yes
[09:55] <ramavadakattu> to edit files in my remote server
[09:55] <dan-ubuntu> morning all
[09:55] <maxagaz> sprinkmeier, thansk
[09:55] <gladiator> urbinek: that doesnt seem to work.
[09:55] <maxagaz> sprinkmeier, thanks
[09:56] <maxagaz> sprinkmeier, what if i don't know the exact name of the file ?
[09:56] <AndrFr> is there any good how to about mouting a samba PDC (with a ldap backend) and connect linux machines trough winbind?
[09:56] <vigo> gladiator: This one, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/en/man5/apt_preferences.5.html
[09:59] <jscinoz> How do i specify for a job to run every 4hours instead of at a certain time in crontab?
[10:00] <sprinkmeier> jscinoz, you mean run it, wait 4 hours, run it again?
[10:00] <jscinoz> yes
[10:00] <jscinoz> i know theres a way to do it, i think it involves the @ symbol
[10:00] <jscinoz> cant remember though
[10:01] <mini_ulaelable> can more than one person ssh into a server at one time
[10:01] <sprinkmeier> jscinoz, crontab can't really do that (unless you frequently run a job to check if the previous run finished 4 hours ago.... ugly!)
[10:01] <jscinoz> sprinkmeier: i could have sworn there was a way
[10:02] <Faithful> mini_ulaelable, as many as you have bandwidth for... 1000s
[10:02] <sprinkmeier> maxagaz, use wildcards, i.e. "find . -iname \*.doc -ls" will find any file endinf in .doc, .Doc, .DOC, .dOc.......
[10:02] <Boohbah> * 0,4,8,12,16,20 * * * /usr/bin/something
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> jscinoz: crom maybe
[10:02] <mini_ulaelable> thanks
[10:02] <dan-ubuntu> hey all, does anyone know how i can get true transparency in xchat?
[10:02] <sprinkmeier> jscinoz, Boohbah "* */4 * * * ...." should do the same thing
[10:03] <Boohbah> it should
[10:03] <jscinoz> Boohbah: , sprinkmeier thanks
[10:03] <dan-ubuntu> anyone? xchat true transparency?
[10:04] <Appocc> hey
[10:04] <dan-ubuntu> hey Appocc
[10:04] <Appocc> can anyone tell me ow i restart the sound servr???
[10:04] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, hi man
[10:04] <urbinek> alt+crt+backspace
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> Appocc: do you use alsa or pulse
[10:04] <sprinkmeier> jscinoz, Boohbah oops... come to think of it, that will start the job every minute of every 4-th hour :-) use "42 */4 * * * ....."
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> urbinek: that restarts x server, not sound
[10:05] <jscinoz> sprinkmeier: oh ok thanks
[10:05] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: Nalf boots ok now but still had to manually edit the kernel and initrd lines in menu.lst
[10:05] <durt> now I know why C-A-B is getting removed in Jaunty : )
[10:05] <afancy> Hi, my X-server cannot start after i have installed a software last night. when the xserver start, it was hanged there for waiting. I have check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it said "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatiable NVIDIA X dirver not found)", Could anybody tell me how to fix this problem? thanks in advanced!! This is my Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/132371/
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: change default in /boot/grub/menu.list
[10:06] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: yes done that too . thanks
[10:06] <jscinoz> afancy: was the software you installed the nvidia driver?
[10:06] <jscinoz> and afancy if so did you install it from nvidias binary installer or from apt?
[10:06] <afancy> jscinoz: no
[10:07] <afancy> jscinoz: i install gnuplot CSV version
[10:07] <afancy> jscinoz: then it require many other package, so i installed them
[10:07] <Appocc> hey man
[10:07] <jscinoz> afancy: that likely wasnt the cause, that error shows your nvidia driver isnt properly installed for your current kernel
[10:07] <Appocc> that comand just restarted my xserver
[10:07] <Appocc> i want to restart my sound server
[10:07] <jscinoz> afancy: when you installed the nvidia driver originally did you install it via synaptic? or with the thing form nvidias website
[10:07] <Appocc> my sound used to work..
[10:07] <durt> Appiah, no kidding do a man alsa for the force restart command
[10:08] <durt> I mean Appocc
[10:08] <dan-ubuntu> Appocc, you want to go to system monitor and restart pulseaudio
[10:08] <Appocc> it just stoped.. i dun know whats happening.. could aybody help me??
[10:08] <afancy> jscinoz:nvidas? i installed it long time ago
[10:08] <Appocc> ok
[10:08] <Appocc> ill try
[10:08] <jscinoz> afancy: yes and that error shows that you need to reinstall it
[10:09] <JabberWokky> Okay, this is driving me nuts.  Symlinks to directories on manually mounted drives are disappearing randomly since 8.10.  Possibly some kind of daemon watching mounts?
[10:09] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, could u tell me where i can access system monitor??
[10:09] <dan-ubuntu> alt-f2
[10:09] <dan-ubuntu> system m
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: they should remain but be broken
[10:10] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: Why would they be broken?  The drive is still connected.
[10:10] <gladiator> vigo: those are version controll preferences mostly... didnt come across anything interesting... thanks anyways
[10:10] <dan-ubuntu> oh, wait, that doesnt work for sys mon
[10:10] <Kartagis> using GNOME, is there a way to connect to the root folder of a samba server?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: are you using ln -s /path/to/folder  to create the link?
[10:10] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: I have 28 years of *nix experience.  This is not a "I don't understand the filesystem" problem.
[10:10] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, that command is not working.. are u sure... system m???
[10:10] <afancy> jscinoz: ok
[10:10] <dan-ubuntu> system>>>admin>>>sys mon
[10:10] <jscinoz> afancy: did you get it reinstalled?
[10:11] <ganu> is there any gui tool for compiling the driver source of a kerenl
[10:11] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: The symlinks are being deleted by some process, often while the drive still has files open.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: a hard link would vanish when the device was unmounted, ln -s would create a softlink and would stay
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: sounds like a bug
[10:11] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: I know that.  I am very familiar with ln.
[10:11] <dan-ubuntu> got it appocc?
[10:11] <howtoo> somebody know of a ubuntu 8.10 repos with monodevelop 2 beta 2 packages?
[10:12] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, ok. im here.. what i need to do now??
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: a process watching the whole drive like that sounds a little unnecessary to me so i cant see it being implemented
[10:12] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: It appeared right after I (fairly recently) upgraded my desktop to 8.10.  Something is "helpfully" cleaning up links, is my guess...
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> not that ive personally know of, maybe someone else can chime in
[10:13] <Kartagis> using GNOME, is there a way to connect to the root folder of a samba server rather than the share?
[10:13] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: Yeah, I thought that too.  I just can't think of anything else that might be doing this.  A sshfs mountpoint is doing the game.
[10:13] <afancy> jscinoz:  Could you tell me which one should i installed?
[10:13] <Appocc> can i reinstall pulseaudio???
[10:13] <dan-ubuntu> yes
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> Kartagis: no, onl the shares are visible to the system
[10:13] <dan-ubuntu> wait
[10:13] <Appocc> how can i do it?
[10:13] <dan-ubuntu> why, do you want to do that?
[10:13] <jscinoz> afancy: what is your graphics card?
[10:13] <Appocc> cause my sound was working and its not anymore
[10:14] <dan-ubuntu> did you restart it?
[10:14] <Appocc> no..i just closed it
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> Kartagis: if the system is a windows box, then ALL partitions are shared with a $ after the partition letter
[10:14] <Appocc> i dun kow how to open it again lol
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> Kartagis: so you can in that instance
[10:14] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: s/doing the game/doing the same.
[10:14] <durt> Appocc, try a 'sudo alsa force-reload' if that doesn't work it should give you error messages.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: i'd log a bug or see if this is a new "feature"
[10:15] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip1, but shouldn't I be able to? because I can do that using windows
[10:15] <ramavadakattu> Any hint on how to fix this error? svn: warning: cannot set LC_CTYPE locale  svn: warning: environment variable LANG is en_US.UTF-8 svn: warning: please check that your locale name is correct
[10:15] <_infidel> is there something in ubuntu similar to the "usbmodules" command?
[10:15] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/elisah/.gvfs
[10:15] <Appocc>       Output information may be incomplete.
[10:16] <Appocc> gave me this twice and the unload messages
[10:16] <ManateeLazyCat> I use 8.10 with Alternate CD, and use DHCP, but Ubuntu can't connect, always "unreasonable", it make me crazy, Debian haven't thise problem. Any help?
[10:16] <ManateeLazyCat> And strange is Ubuntu can connect interect when i first install it.
[10:16] <ManateeLazyCat> It can't connect after i updated.
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> Kartagis: no, because ubuntu is not windows
[10:17] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: Thanks for trying to assist anyway; it's just hard to search for, as people are constantly asking "why don't links in /dev survive a reboot?" and being responded to, so it's hard to find a good search term for my issue.  :)
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: do hard links stay?
[10:17] <afancy> jscinoz:  it is NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M
[10:17] <JabberWokky> ActionParsnip1: Can't hardlink across mountpoints.
[10:17] <jscinoz> afancy: and when you installed the nvidia driver the first time which one did you install??
[10:17] <jscinoz> ?*
[10:17] <Appocc> durt, lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/elisah/.gvfs
[10:17] <Appocc>       Output information may be incomplete.
[10:17] <ManateeLazyCat> Looks DNS wrong with Ubuntu 8.10, how to fix?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> JabberWokky: bah
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: add some dns servers to /etc/resolv.conf
[10:18] <afancy> jscinoz: i cannot remember, i think i in stalled  it by systamtic
[10:19] <jscinoz> afancy: can you do 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx-legacy'
[10:19] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: I did it, setup static ip, and add "192.168.1.1" to dns in /etc/resolv.conf just can connect when i setup, it will failed when i restart system.
[10:19] <_infidel> the "usbmodules" command is a way to determine which modules are required for a particular device. Is there something similar in ubuntu?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: did you add it in the correct synatax
[10:19] <BABER> ActionParsnip1: how can find ports?
[10:19] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: I don't know why Ubuntu 8.10 can't work like Debian, i have two machine, one is Debian, one is Ubuntu 8.10
[10:19] <afancy> jscinoz: i think so, but when i go into the recovery mode, how can it enable the network connection in command line?
[10:19] <durt> Appocc, hmm, don't think that's got any thing to do with alsa or pulseaudio.
[10:20] <dan-ubuntu> anyone know how to configure an apple bluetooth wireless aluminum keyboard with 8.10? i keep getting 'pairing failed'
[10:20] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: Yep, after i add it, it can work, but failed when i reboot.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: you need to add the word 'nameserver' to the beginning of it
[10:20] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: Yep, i did
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: ports of what, can you expand on your vague question
[10:20] <jimijix> hi, currently i'm dual-booting ubuntu and vista using grub; i'm going to install windows xp how do i do it? just install it?
[10:21] <phuzion> I'm listening to a stream online, and the flash container is REALLY crappy, is there a way to find the direct stream URL I can throw into VLC or something?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> jimijix: install it but you will need to reinstall grub if you are installing to the same disk that has grub on
[10:21] <BABER> ActionParsnip1: ports that are opened or i have used them
[10:21] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: First is setup static IP in /etc/network/interfaces, and remove "inet dhcp", and add "namesever 192.168.1.1" in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: netstat -a
[10:21] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: But now it can't work again.
[10:21] <JabberWokky> phuzion: There are some Firefox addons, but you can also use "ngrep GET |grep -A5 flv" at the commandline.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: you need to have inet <interface name here> static
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: can you pastebin your interfaces file please
[10:22] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: Ok
[10:22] <BABER> ActionParsnip1: for example how can understand pidgin is use from which port?
[10:22] <emretemp> well found a bug, if you place gnome-panel at the right of the screen, windows list applet crashes if you open smt like 10 windows. it somehow couldnt use the space and expand itself.
[10:22] <dan-ubuntu> apple aluminium bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu anyone?
[10:22] <jimijix> ActionParnsip1: thanks, I have ubuntu and vista on the first disk, i'm going to install windows xp on the second; do i still need to install grub?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: netstat -a | grep pidgin
[10:22] <emretemp> well found a bug, if you place gnome-panel at the right of the screen, windows list applet crashes if you open smt like 10 windows. it somehow couldnt use the space and expand itself.  if you place gnome-panel at the top or at the bottom this does not happen and eveything works fine.
[10:23] <JabberWokky> phuzion: You'll be looking directly at the browser <-> server chatter, so you need to be able to read it.  If it's too confusing, try a plugin.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> jimijix: no, just add an entry into grub to load up the new OS on the other disk
[10:23] <jimijix> ActionParsnip1: so i just install xp, then add the entry in grub?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> jimijix: pretty much, yes
[10:24] <jimijix> ActionPrsnip1: thanks buddy :-)
[10:24] <BABER> ActionParsnip1: noting do
[10:24]  * ManateeLazyCat pasted "/etc/network/interfaces" at http://paste2.org/get/166165
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> jimijix: a boot sector will be written to the other didk so grub will be untouched
[10:24] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: See above at http://paste2.org/get/166165
[10:24] <BABER> ActionParsnip1: i typed netstat -a | grep pidgin
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: netstat -a shows all active socks including ones sat listening
[10:24] <jimijix>  ActionParsnip1: thanks buddy :-)
[10:25] <afancy> Hi, how to enable network connection in Recovery mode command line?
[10:25] <chronographer> Who uses LVM, who uses raid ?? what is a good guide?
[10:25] <magnetron> !lvm | chronographer
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: looks great
[10:25] <chronographer> afancy: sudo ifup
[10:26] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: What's wrong with Ubuntu?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: can i see your /etc/resol.conf file
[10:26] <chronographer> those guides are quite old...
[10:26] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: I found Ubuntu will with "inet dhcp", so i setup static ip
[10:26] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: One sec
[10:26] <chronographer> do you folks use lvm?
[10:27] <durt> chronographer, used to on fedora.
[10:27]  * ManateeLazyCat pasted "/etc/resolv.conf" at http://paste2.org/get/166166
[10:27] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: See above
[10:27] <issa_> HI, any one can suggest a good hex editor?
[10:28] <Giddion> hi
[10:28] <Giddion> im thinking of migrating my windows 2003 server box onto ubuntu,  my web sites are all writen in asp.net,   is there a way i can get these sites to still work in ubuntu?
[10:28] <dan-ubuntu> can anyone help with 'pairing failed' with the apple bluetooth keyboard? please?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: add a few of these too: http://theos.in/windows-xp/free-fast-public-dns-server-list/
[10:28] <Mkman> people i need help
[10:28] <chronographer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto  <- doesn't exist
[10:28] <Mkman> i want a virtual machinc for Linux
[10:29] <durt> !ask | Mkman
[10:29] <chronographer> Mkman: virtualbox
[10:29] <chronographer> try the ppa
[10:29] <_infidel> !usbmodules
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: if you search that page for raid you will get a link to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[10:29] <BABER> how can save output a command in a document?
[10:29] <Mkman> virtualbox run in windowns right?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> BABER: netstat -a > ~/output.txt
[10:29] <TB`> Good morning :-)))
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> Mkman: there is a windows port, yes
[10:30] <chronographer> Mkman:    http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[10:30] <Mkman> i need one for run in Linux for simulatte other linux
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> Mkman: virtualbox runs in linux too
[10:30] <Mkman> ActionParsnip1:  sorry my english is not very goodlol
[10:30] <fliegenderfrosch> Mkman: that’s exactly what virtualbox can be used for
[10:30] <chronographer> virtualbox is great
[10:31] <dan-ubuntu> how do i !ask?
[10:31] <chronographer> get Virtualbox
[10:31] <Mkman> ok
[10:31] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: Original have two IPs in /etc/resolv.conf, i just leave gateway in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> Mkman: theres also vmware which isnt open source but is another solution
[10:32] <chronographer> there is free vmware right?
[10:32] <ManateeLazyCat> ActionParsnip1: Ubuntu is so great, but can't connect is so bad. It make me crazy.
[10:32] <chronographer> virtualbox isn't all free I understand
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> ManateeLazyCat: if you add a few of those IPs as nameservers in resolv.conf, you will be able to browse the web
[10:32] <BABER> ActionParsnip1: thi is my netd=stat -a output how can understand pidgin which of these ?    http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=4jabp
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: the software is, the OS you install in it may not be
[10:32] <Mkman> ManateeLazyCat:  ubuntu is great, in new version the conection is very good
[10:33] <ManateeLazyCat> Mkman: New version?
[10:33] <ManateeLazyCat> Mkman: I use 8.10, network always failed.
[10:33] <ManateeLazyCat> Mkman: And network-manager is bugly
[10:34] <chronographer> why is the Ubuntu OSE (open source edition) different from the one on their website then?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: ubuntu IS open sourced
[10:34] <Mkman> ManateeLazyCat:  for me, is great never cause me any problm
[10:34] <jerto> Hi, I have just installed timevault and defined in the preferences "Enable Nautilus integration". When I launch Nautilus, I do not have the Timevault icon. Does anyone know what I should do to get it ?
[10:34] <chronographer> I mean the Ubuntu OSE of virtualbox
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: there isnt a non-open source version
[10:35] <ManateeLazyCat> Mkman: Before is use Alternate CD, i use Live CD install Ubuntu 8.10, and install network-manager, network is faild, then i use Alternate CD, and not install network-manager, also failed.
[10:35] <BABER> ActionParsnip1: can u help me?
[10:35] <chronographer> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions  <- there is a closed source edition
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: The full VirtualBox package comes under a proprietary Personal Use and Evaluation License (PUEL), which allows using the software free of charge for personal and educational use and evaluation of the product.[10] Licenses for commercial deployment of the full VirtualBox package can be purchased from Sun, although commercial use by individuals within a company is covered by the free PUEL.[11]
[10:35] <koshari> chronographer the OSe ov vbox is only available as 1.6 compiled.
[10:35] <Mkman> ManateeLazyCat: use OpenSuse is great to
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: you worded your first statement badly to imply an Ubuntu non OSE
[10:36] <chris-rc1> hi
[10:36] <alaa_> any one can help to get the driver of tablet hp pavilio tx 2000 ib ubuntu 8.10
[10:36] <chronographer> I know. Sorry about that. ActionParsnip1. I was referring to Virtualbox not being ALL free.
[10:36] <chris-rc1> is there a static vlc package?
[10:36] <dan-ubuntu> how do i pair an apple wireless keyboard in 8.10? it says 'pairing failed'
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> alaa_: for what piece of hardware exactly?
[10:36] <chronographer> err... ALL open source I shoudl say
[10:36] <alaa_> touch screen
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: tru but the one on the reops are
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> !touchscreen
[10:37] <nate[oz]> can anyone help me?? I'm pulling my hair out here... I've been trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 64bit Desktop edition for 3 days now! It's continuously giving me the following error: [Errno 5] Input/output error
[10:37] <chronographer> yeah. I use the online one (not really sure why!)
[10:37] <sinan> I have just installed sysstat from aptitude. Tutorials online claim i should have a script in /usr/lib/sa/sa1, which i don't. Any idea what's going on?
[10:37] <alaa_> ActionParsnip: can you help me?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> alaa_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161034
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> alaa_: they can be a pain to get working
[10:38] <chronographer> well. I have decided that LVM and RAID is too hard for me. Will stick with good, old fashioned partitions.
[10:38] <Nappe> #ubuntu.se
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: get a proper raid card and its done in te controller, the OS will only see 1 partition
[10:38] <Myrtti> Nappe: skriv /join #ubuntu-se heller ;-)
[10:38] <Mkman> any portuguese in hear?
[10:38] <chronographer> expensive though right?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: not at all
[10:39] <nate[oz]> Anyone have experience with this error: [Errno 5] Input/output error ????
[10:39] <koshari> chronographer personally i cant see the point of software raid
[10:39] <chronographer> nate[oz]: from what?
[10:39] <nate[oz]> from installing 8.10 desktop 64bit
[10:39] <chronographer> koshari: software LVM seems very useful though
[10:39] <nate[oz]> running from live cd
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SBT-SRD4&cat=CCD 17 USD
[10:39] <chronographer> I mean LVm seems useful though
[10:40] <dan-ubuntu> how do i get an apple infra red remote working in 8.10? can it be done?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> chronographer: onboard raid controllers are garbage
[10:40] <nate[oz]> partitions get built, files start copying and it stops at 66% and gives this error
[10:40] <afancy> Hi, how to enable the network connection under command line in Recovery Mode? as my X-Server is broken i need to fix it. thanks
[10:40] <koshari> chronographer software lvm is good if you want a large volume from small drives, hardware raid gives you all the redundncy enterprise demands
[10:40] <nate[oz]> same error this guy got: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600126 <- but none of the solutions in here work for me
[10:40] <koshari> nate[oz] have you checked your media
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: type ifconfig   if you have an ip you are good to go
[10:41] <chronographer> I just want expandable partitions for movies etc.
[10:41] <nate[oz]> yea, tried 2 different cds, a dvd and a usb stick
[10:41] <nate[oz]> all the same
[10:41] <nate[oz]> tried different ram even
[10:41] <afancy> ActionParsnip1: i have type ifconfig but it doesnt work
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: is that your initial post?
[10:41] <nate[oz]> nah, someone else with same problem
[10:41] <nate[oz]> i've tried everything in that thread though
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: try /sbin/ifconfig
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: did you md5 check your iso as well as verify the cd was ok once burned and booted to?
[10:42] <chronographer> nate[oz]: HDD full?
[10:43] <afancy> ActionParsnip1: i dont mean there is no ifconfig, but i have run this command it still doesnot enable the network
[10:43] <nate[oz]> nah, completely empty, 500GB
[10:43] <nate[oz]> ActionParsnip1: haven't done the md5 check yet, but downloaded from official website 2 different times on 2 different cds
[10:44] <chronographer> if you downloaded with torrent, you can check the integrity of the file... or use md5 check suggested above
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: ifconfig doesnt enable the network. Its to see if its already up and running with an ip address
[10:44] <nate[oz]> nah, right from ubuntu.com
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: doesnt matter
[10:44] <ganu> is there any gui tool for compiling the driver source of a kerenl
[10:44] <ysis> Hi. I want to install Ubuntu Intrepid with a normal install CD from an IDE CD-ROM drive, but when I select anything from the star-up menu I find myself in this BusyBox shell and get errors like 'scsi 0:0:2:0: timing out command, waited 22s'.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: you could pull it down a million times and never get a good image
[10:44] <afancy> ActionParsnip1: no, it doens up
[10:45] <_infidel> the "usbmodules" command is a way to determine which modules are required for a particular device. Is there something similar in ubuntu? Anybody? Thanx in advance
[10:45] <nate[oz]> worth a shot, I've read many people with the same problem doing md5 checks and it coming out good... only reason I haven't tried it
[10:45] <nate[oz]> coming out good = md5 check is a success
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: md5 check the iso you downloaded as well as check the cds are ok. Once we know its not those at fault you can progress, if you have bad disks in your hands you will have a tonne of issues due to incorrect data on the disks
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: try sudo ifup <network device name>
[10:46] <nate[oz]> I've tried usb stick also, and dvd... so if md5 checks out I'm running out of options
[10:46] <nate[oz]> brb
[10:46] <nate[oz]> will check
[10:47] <chronographer> nate[oz]: md5 check your ISO
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: you shouold have checked it as soon as you downloaded it
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: before you did anything
[10:47] <afancy> ActionParsnip1: i have tried, but there is no network device name
[10:48] <chronographer> afancy: what does ifconfig return?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: then you need to find out what you have
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: try: sudo lshw -C network
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> afancy: you need to find where ifconfig is lying so you can configure / probe your hardware
[10:50] <fliegenderfrosch> does anyone know about a program to compare two text files and print which lines are different, but not taking the order of the lines into account?
[10:51] <Kartagis> how do I check if I use jack or not?
[10:52] <gladiator> hi... i have a problem.. when i ping any domain that does not exist.... it pings to a host in my /etc/hosts file
[10:52] <Kartagis> fliegenderfrosch, diff can do that
[10:52] <fliegenderfrosch> Kartagis: do you know the relevant options?
[10:53] <chiiiiiz> hi!!
[10:53] <Kartagis> fliegenderfrosch, no, man diff
[10:53] <chiiiiiz> problem with ATI and dual screen.
[10:53] <Kartagis> !hi | chiiiiiz
[10:53] <fliegenderfrosch> Kartagis: ok, i’ll look again, i’ve already had a quick look and haven’t seen anything
[10:53] <ysis> Any ideas regarding my problem?
[10:54] <chiiiiiz> I have installed the latest version of catalyst, and with the control  center, I have configured the dual screen: extended desktop overlay.
[10:54] <chiiiiiz> I wanted to have 2 different desktop, and tried Xinerama: catastrophic!!!
[10:55] <chiiiiiz> since then, I can't go back to my working config. I have tried "sudo aticonfig --initial", and "sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --desktop-setup=clone" and it does not work
[10:55] <Mkman> Debian is hard work?
[10:56] <nate[oz]> ActionParsnip1: you were right, md5 was incorrect, cheers for the time and effort
[10:56] <chiiiiiz> I have 2 screens, the mouse goes from one to the other (as if I still had an overlay), but the computer looks to be thinking, and does not show my toolbars...
[10:56] <chiiiiiz> any idea?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: i will reitterate
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: ALWAYS check MD%
[10:57] <nate[oz]> ja
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: ive seen a tonne of users coming in moaning about bad installs and its nearly always MD5
[10:58] <nate[oz]> I guess I made the assumption the iso was alright being that I *thought* I'd used it in a vm install... which worked fine
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: if you download ANY large image file and there is an MD5, get that too and check what you have
[10:58] <nate[oz]> guess it must have been a different iso
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> nate[oz]: then check the disk is consistant on the first boot screen to check the burn succeeded
[10:58] <funkyHat> Or download using bittorrent which will check the file is good for you
[10:58] <nate[oz]> ja
[10:58] <nate[oz]> torrents are always slow fo rme
[10:58] <gladiator> why would ping resolve to a host in /etc/hosts file when the domain does not exist?
[10:58] <nate[oz]> i get a good 1MB/sec off my isp mirrors
[10:59] <nate[oz]> just have to wait until offpeak
[10:59] <Kartagis> how do I check if I use jack or not?
[11:00] <kelli> hi all
[11:00] <gladiator> !jack
[11:00] <durt> Kartagis, ps -A | grep jack
[11:00] <chiiiiiz> another question: I need to set up a FTP server with quite some security. Do I need Debian, or can ubuntu server be my best friend on this?
[11:00] <nate[oz]> again, thanks for the help ActionParsnip1, will heed your advice in future ;)
[11:00] <kelli> what program can i use to wipe a disc clean-totally?
[11:01] <rickard> I have unaliased fonts in FF3... I have changed the option in Apperance configuration without results.. please help me..
[11:01] <ramavadakattu> HOw to make symlink to point to contents of directory instead directory?
[11:01] <funkyHat> kelli: shred. be VERY careful that you're shredding the right device though
[11:02] <kelli> funkyHat, how do i getit
[11:02] <peppo> what's the lowdown on Jaunty and ATI graphics? have ATI released drivers for XOrg 1.6?
[11:02] <funkyHat> kelli: It's already installed
[11:03] <ramavadakattu> For ex:  ln -s /home/pinaxsnetwork/site_media   /var/www/site_media  , here /var/www/site_media should point to  /home/pinaxsntwork/site_media contents instead of site_media directory
[11:03] <dan-ubuntu> how do i make an apple remote work with a macbook 3.1 in ubuntu 8.10?
[11:03] <kelli> funkyHat, i'm new to this but i need help
[11:03] <funkyHat> kelli: actually, are you wiping a disc because you want to protect sensitive data, or do you just want to reinstall your OS?
[11:04] <kelli> funkyHat, data
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> dan-ubuntu: run lsusb; lspci
[11:05] <kelli> funkyHat,  cant find it
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> dan-ubuntu: one line will ientify the hardware if its detected
[11:06] <funkyHat> kelli: ok. shred is a command-line application, it writes over files you tell it with random sequences of data, and then optionally blanks it all at the end as well, it takes quite a long time for big files, and is probably completely unnecessary if your data is on a flash device
[11:06] <funkyHat> kelli: also if it is a flash device writing to it lots of times isn't such a good idea anywya
[11:06] <funkyHat> *anyway
[11:06] <ubd> cant i install ubuntu on fat
[11:07] <funkyHat> ubd: very bad idea
[11:07] <ubd> is that an answer ^^
[11:08] <koshari> ubd i would suspect you would have permissian problems to begin with
[11:08] <funkyHat> ubd: fat can't have file ownerships or permissions, so it wouldn't boot properly
[11:08] <ubd> alright
[11:08] <ActionParsnip1> ubd: are you wanting to instal ubuntu on usb by any chance?
[11:09] <ubd> this is an usb drive: i want downloaded torrents to be on fat.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> ubd: then create a seperate partition for torrent data
[11:09] <cylux> Hey guys, I have an internal sata partition that is mounted automatically at boot. What option do I need to add to my fstab so that my regular user can have read and write privledges?
[11:09] <ubd> whats the minimum space for ubuntu apche samba
[11:09] <ubd> xubuntu actually
[11:09] <luuik> hi there. Where can i find documentation with regards to the config of the various ubuntu server kernel packages? (specifically linux-image-2.6.27-??-server ?
[11:10] <koshari> ubd you could go guiless for apache and samba
[11:10] <ubd> 10 gb is enuf?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> ubd: 2Gb or thereabout is my guess, depends if you strip the other apps out of xubuntu
[11:10] <durt> cylux, change ro (read only ) to rw (read write)
[11:10] <ubd> koshari: can i install base only?
[11:10] <koshari> ubd or you could use flux thats lighter than xfce
[11:10] <erUSUL> luuik: which config? kernel config can be checked at /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> ubd: i run a full install with a decent rack of apps off a 5Gb / partition
[11:11] <koshari> ubd you sure can
[11:11] <ubd> how?
[11:11] <koshari> !minimal
[11:11] <zamba> is ubuntu able to resize the running partition?
[11:11] <cylux> durt: THanks, how do I make the changes take effect without restarting?
[11:11] <ubd> i have the whole xubuntu cd - cant i install base with this?
[11:12] <erUSUL> zamba: no; mounted partitions can not be edited... use a livecd if you want to do such a thing
[11:12] <ubd> there may be an option at startup?
[11:12] <ubd> is there
[11:12] <luuik> erUSUL: yep, thats the config. I'm trying to find a package version with a particular set of options disabled. I could do it manually, but i'd prefer not to have to customise the kernel for this installation.
[11:12] <koshari> ubd you could install then prune back unneded packages,
[11:12] <Mba7eth> guys .... if a process is running in bg by another terminal... can i run it in fg in my current terminal .... ?????
[11:12] <ubd> i see ok
[11:12] <durt> cylux, unmount (umount) the device and remount (mount -a) it.
[11:12] <cylux> durt: Thanks.
[11:12] <erUSUL> luuik: i'm afraid you will have to. there is only one version of the server kernel afaics
[11:13] <durt> cylux, perms might need to be changed in user/group attributes tho.
[11:13] <luuik> erUSUL, mmm. unfortunate. thanks :)
[11:13] <erUSUL> luuik: no problem
[11:13] <cylux> durt: It's not letting me mount it, says I still need to be root
[11:14] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[11:14] <durt> cylux, to mount 'sudo mount -a'
[11:14] <Mba7eth> guys .... if a process is running in bg by another terminal... can i run it in fg in my current terminal .... ?????
[11:14] <lili> hi
[11:15] <ubd> is there no root acc ?!
[11:15] <cylux> durt: Okay, still don't have rw privledges.
[11:15] <Mba7eth> lili: hi
[11:15] <ubd> omfg
[11:15] <luuik> Mba7eth, don't think so. if you want to do that kind of thing, you should look at the application called "screen"
[11:15] <erUSUL> !root | ubd
[11:15] <koshari> ubd no you use sudo for root functions
[11:15] <ubd> why would i use sudo?
[11:16] <ubd> thats gay - no offense
[11:16] <sajuuk_> hey guys what package is it to get german language to function on my system
[11:16] <koshari> ubd to perform root functions
[11:17] <ubd> this pc is going to be remotely managed...
[11:17] <ubd> whatever
[11:17] <koshari> ubd use ssh
[11:17] <ubd> ssh with sudo
[11:17] <koshari> ubd if you need to perform a root function
[11:18] <zamba> erUSUL: and then i have to resize the fs as well.. is this doable?
[11:18] <cylux> Hey guys, I have an internal sata partition that is mounted automatically at boot. What option do I need to add to my fstab so that my regular user can have read and write privledges?
[11:18] <zamba> erUSUL: .. if i use the live-cd, i mean
[11:18] <mysticdarkhack> sajuuk, tried going to system, adminitration and language support
[11:18] <sajuuk_> mysticdarkhack, i will do that
[11:18] <erUSUL> zamba: gparted should be able to do both things without problems
[11:18] <durt> cylux, what device is this your main install partition?
[11:18] <zamba> erUSUL: ok, cool
[11:19] <erUSUL> zamba: but messing with partitions is allways risky bussiness backup anything important
[11:19] <koshari> cylux use the same settings as your root partition in fstab
[11:19] <cylux> durt: Nope. Seperate
[11:20] <durt> cylux, add a 'rw,' in front of relatime
[11:21] <cylux> durt: Alright
[11:21] <sajuuk_> thx mysticdarkhack that was the solution :)
[11:21] <sajuuk_> good night all
[11:21] <peppo> anyone on Jaunty with mobile ATI graphics? any workarounds?
[11:21] <durt> cylux, 'sudo umount /dev/<the_device>' then 'sudo mount -a'
[11:21] <mysticdarkhack> sajuuk, np and yw
[11:22] <cylux> durt: Still no rw privledges.
[11:24] <durt> cylux, you probably need to give the user permission to use the directory. Easy to do with 'sudo nautilus' or whatever file-manager you use.
[11:24] <mysticdarkhack> sa, what do yall think of the new jaunty gdm theme?
[11:24] <durt> cylux, just be carefull what you do running nautilus as root.
[11:25] <bazhang> !gksudo
[11:25] <oCean_> mysticdarkhack: peppo: jaunty discussions/issues in #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <dusopn> good morning all
[11:25] <dusopn> ok just west eu now :)
[11:26] <jelly12gen> good afternon dude
[11:26] <dusopn> what is the best app to encrypt whole drive / filesystem under linux
[11:26] <weatherkid> Hey every now and then Ubuntu forces my Wi-Fi card to shut down but then the kernel now start detecting it but I want to know if yall can give me a patch or something
[11:26] <dusopn> truecrypt doesnt support whole drive
[11:27] <weatherkid> I'm posting the system logs and ls***'s on Pastebin now
[11:27] <mysticdarkhack> seem like we all in difference time zone
[11:27] <cylux> durt: So what option exactly do I need to change?
[11:27] <dusopn> weatherkid: it is restaritng?
[11:28] <dusopn> yea im in uk at the moment
[11:28] <dusopn> we have suuun :))
[11:28] <dusopn> delicious
[11:28] <dusopn> so anybody about encryption?
[11:28] <cylux> durt: If I try to change the permissions it just defaults to root
[11:28] <weatherkid> dusopn: nope
[11:29] <user296> hi all, is there a simple way to login to my school windows network from my ubuntu machine? all I want is to use the internet from the ubuntu box. I plugged in the network cable and tried to connect to eth0 but it doesn't connect
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> dusopn: its a bit overcast here in leeds, where you at?
[11:29] <dusopn> exeter
[11:29] <oCean_> cylux: what did you use as mount options? Currently? Using "defaults" should be enough to let you change the permissions
[11:30] <zeno> hi i have a window that says launching knotify, is invisible and wont go away
[11:30] <dusopn> ActionParsnip1: but i was in london and weather up there is way more steady i think
[11:30] <cylux> oCean_: http://nopaste.com/p/anaE8m6lC That's my fstab entry
[11:31] <dusopn> i believe to get response in such a busy irc room i should offer money
[11:32] <dusopn> i know you all have good hearts but its kinda a lot to help everyone
[11:32] <oCean_> cylux: I missed the story behind it. Are you mounting a root partition... since mountpoint is /   ?
[11:32] <weatherkid> dusopn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132420/ here is the system logs (abridged) and my ls***'s
[11:32] <dusopn> i will try local room
[11:32] <weatherkid> !botsnack
[11:32] <cylux> oCean_: Shit I see what the problem is.
[11:33] <durt> !language
[11:33] <dusopn> weatherkid: sorry mate try google
[11:34] <dusopn> weatherkid: i have had probs with atheros as well but on net there is quite a lot of info
[11:35] <weatherkid> oh well , thanks though
[11:35] <whileimhere> Good morning. I was wondering if the new version of digikam 1.0.0 will be included in the new ubuntu?
[11:35] <durt> whileimhere, check out packages.ubuntu.com for what's in Jaunty.
[11:37] <whileimhere> thanks
[11:37] <Kartagis> can you guys help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6909571#post6909571 please?
[11:37] <durt> whileimhere, or if digikam is in medibuntu then medibuntu.org
[11:38]  * weatherkid breaks the silence  
[11:38] <kinja-sheep> Really quick question -- How do I install xubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop?  Right now, I think I merged both of them.
[11:39] <bazhang> !purexfce
[11:39] <kinja-sheep> bazhang: Thanks.
[11:39] <jscinoz> hmm
[11:39] <Bass> salut
[11:40] <durt> !it | Bass
[11:40] <Bass> je vaux installer Ekiga ca ne passe pas je suis nouveau sous linux
[11:40] <jscinoz> this line in crontab "* */4 * * * podget" would that run podget once ever 4 hours, or everyminute of the every fourth hour?
[11:41] <ubuntistas> hello ubu guys
[11:41] <bazhang> Bass, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[11:41] <Bass> salut Durt
[11:41] <durt> !fr | Bass
[11:41] <Bass> comment ?
[11:41] <Bass> en fr
[11:41] <ubuntistas> i have 2 files that i cannot open and they're saying invalid encoding any clue?
[11:42] <durt> Bass: non, en anglais si vous plait
[11:42] <bazhang> Bass, /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:42] <scibotic> Yo, I have a bunch of projects I want to keep in sync between two computers, any recommendations?
[11:43] <sako> hni
[11:43] <Bass> i dont know how to joint french?
[11:43] <Bass> help
[11:43] <scibotic> /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:43] <erUSUL> Bass: /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:43] <ubuntistas> these files are very important for me
[11:43] <durt> Bass: "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[11:44] <ubuntistas> ban bass
[11:44] <bazhang> ubuntistas, take it easy
[11:46] <BigMoopies> Does it really matter which version of Avidemux I use? GTK+ or Q4 ?
[11:46] <mneptok> BigMoopies: it does if you care about dependencies.
[11:46] <BigMoopies> mneptok, Depedencies ?
[11:46] <weatherkid> I know this is off topic but I was going to make myself a fileserver using SWAT and Samba so what is the cheapest server out there?
[11:47] <ikonia> weatherkid: it's off topic so please don't ask
[11:47] <ikonia> weatherkid: there are offtopic channels
[11:47] <mneptok> BigMoopies: if you use GNOME, the QT version will pull in a ton of extra libraries. the FTK version should have most of what it needs already.
[11:47] <weatherkid> sorry =[
[11:47] <durt> BigMoopies, I don't know about Avidemux but it sounds like your just desribing front ends. So Gtk for Gnome and Qt for KDE.
[11:47] <BigMoopies> OK.
[11:47] <ubuntistas> i have 2 files that i cannot open and they're saying invalid encoding , the files are very important for me
[11:47] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[11:48] <durt> ubuntistas, open with what?, what type of files?
[11:48] <ikonia> ubuntistas: what are they encoded with, what are you trying to open thenm with
[11:48] <ubuntistas> with openoffice word
[11:48] <ubuntistas> ikonia
[11:48] <mneptok> ubuntistas: what kind of files are they?
[11:48] <ubuntistas> doc.
[11:49] <durt> ubuntistas, what extension?
[11:49] <ubuntistas> mneptok
[11:49] <mneptok> ubuntistas: created with .... ?
[11:49] <gladiator> hi.. i am trying to make a samba user account.. i do sudo smbpasswd -a <username> but after entering the password it says "Failed to modify password entry for user"
[11:49] <henriquelm> Hello there
[11:49] <ubuntistas> what do u mean?
[11:50] <mneptok> gladiator: "sudo smbpasswd etc etc etc etc etc"
[11:50] <weatherkid> gladiator: you first need to make the user an account
[11:50] <ikonia> gladiator: ias smba running ?
[11:50] <ubuntistas> it's a word document template and i cannot open it
[11:50] <ikonia> weatherkid: smbpassword -a makes an account
[11:50] <henriquelm> I'm trying to install x11vnc and im getting an error msg (*** A working X window system build environment is required to build ***)
[11:50] <mneptok> ubuntistas: what version of Word created it?
[11:50] <ikonia> henriquelm: are you trying to compile it ?
[11:50] <mneptok> ubuntistas: not every version of Word creates .doc files that OO.org can actually open.
[11:51] <henriquelm> ikonia, yes
[11:51] <dusty__> Hey guys I have ubuntu-server installed, I installed ubuntu-desktop and that installed gdm, I only want the ubuntu desktop installed so that I can use remote VNC I do not want GDM installed.. how can I remove GDM but keep gnome/xorg so that it boots to console and I can stil runn the vnc server?
[11:51] <gladiator> ikonia: yes its running.. i can see my shared folders.. but cant access them. weatherkid: thats what i was trying to do
[11:51] <mneptok> ubuntistas: this is why proprietary software using proprietary formats is a Bad Thing(tm)
[11:51] <|newbie|> ciao
[11:51] <dusty__> I have tried aptitude remove gdm, but that tries to remove ubuntu-desktop too.
[11:51] <ikonia> henriquelm: right so you're trying to compile it - not install it, and the error states you need an xorg build environment,
[11:51] <ubuntistas> Word document template (application/msword) mneptok
[11:52] <henriquelm> ikonia, I already have gnome running, what else do I need?
[11:52] <ikonia> henriquelm: a build environemtn - you're compiling not running
[11:52] <erUSUL> dusty__: just disable gdm on boot. « sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove »
[11:52] <ubuntistas> any clue mneptok
[11:52] <satansaunt> so i have a problem with firefox opening in fullscreen mode but only every now and again- i tried the about:config then fullscreen then false solution but apparently that only works part of the time
[11:53] <satansaunt> is there a more permanent solution?
[11:53]  * weatherkid tries to imagine a open-source microsoft...nothing coming to mind...
[11:53] <satansaunt> lol
[11:53] <ikonia> weatherkid: please stop being offtopic
[11:53] <dusty__> erUSUL: thankyou!!
[11:53] <durt> !spam > weatherkid
[11:53] <satansaunt> microsoft invest in some open source distros?
[11:54] <ikonia> satansaunt: this is nothing to do with ubuntu support so please stop
[11:54] <henriquelm> ikonia, i'm sorry for the dumb question but what is a build environment?
[11:54] <ikonia> henriquelm: the set of xorg libraries and/or headers
[11:54] <ikonia> henriquelm: if your not confident with what you're doing I strongly suggest you don't try to compile this software
[11:55] <weatherkid> henriquelm: i agree. If you don't know what you are doing it can kill your system
[11:55] <ikonia> !away > Mud|brb
[11:56] <mneptok> ubuntistas: that tells me nothing about what version of Word created the template
[11:56] <weatherkid> iknona: just a question. are you a moderator?
[11:56] <ikonia> weatherkid: is that important ?
[11:56] <mneptok> ubuntistas: Microsoft chnages the .doc format like underwear. it's a moving target.
[11:56] <weatherkid> no
[11:57] <ubuntistas> i just renamed
[11:57] <ubuntistas> ok mneptok problem solved
[11:57] <henriquelm> ikonia, ok, would you sugest another vnc server that is easier to install? because the one that comes with ubuntu server is not so good.
[11:58] <ikonia> henriquelm: another vnc server, I've no idea as I don't use VNC
[11:58] <ikonia> henriquelm: if you explain your problems we maybe able to fix them
[11:59] <henriquelm> ikonia, I needed a vnc server that started to run before the logon screen, ubuntu's default vnc server doesn't do that
[11:59] <Oli``> My default application for opening folders has somehow become phatch (a batch photo processing jig)... I can only open a dir if I double click onef the desktop
[12:00] <Oli``> .. and navigate to where I want to go.. How can I make nautilus the default again?
[12:00] <mneptok> henriquelm: do you *need* VLC, or are you just trying to run grpahical apps remotely?
[12:00]  * ikonia nudges mneptok vlc - not vnc
[12:00] <mneptok> henriquelm: IOW, do you need the entire desktop exported, or are you just trying to run a GUI app from another box?
[12:01] <mneptok> oh, brain fart.
[12:01] <kelli> how do i save a privet chat
[12:01] <mneptok> henriquelm: you need a graphical environment for VLC. vlc-nox might be what you want.
[12:01] <Kartagis> kelli, what irc client?
[12:01] <henriquelm> mneptok, I need to have graphical access to the server
[12:01] <henriquelm> mneptok, remotely
[12:01] <kelli> Kartagis, yes
[12:02] <mneptok> henriquelm: for .... ?
[12:02] <Gnea> henriquelm: all the time or just for certain applications?
[12:02] <michaeldadmum> henriquelm: you may try X over ssh
[12:02] <mneptok> henriquelm: i'm not trying to be nosy, but there may be *far* easier ways to do what you want than VNC.
[12:02] <henriquelm> mneptok, to install new apps, update, setup, reboot, etc
[12:02] <mneptok> henriquelm: all of those tasks can be done from the command line
[12:03] <henriquelm> mneptok, but not so good with linux
[12:03] <wanna_learn_more> !git
[12:03] <mneptok> henriquelm: and you should do them from the command line over ssh. VNC is a big security risk.
[12:03] <Gnea> henriquelm: is this for a corporate network or home?
[12:03] <mneptok> henriquelm: so what you're saying is, "I'm not so good with this OS. Help me open a large security hole."  not a good idea, IMO.
[12:03] <henriquelm> mneptok, but it's just a small company, no big deal
[12:04] <mneptok> henriquelm: private data is always a big deal.
[12:04] <Gnea> henriquelm: hopefully your boss is not reading this forum.
[12:04] <mneptok> henriquelm: alternatively, you could use Landscape.
[12:04] <henriquelm> mneptok, what is it?
[12:05] <mneptok> henriquelm: remote monitoring and admin app for Ubuntu. comes as part of any Canonical support contract.
[12:05] <mneptok> henriquelm: http://landscape.canonical.com
[12:05] <henriquelm> mneptok, thanks
[12:06] <mneptok> henriquelm: either way, please do NOT use VNC to admin a Linux server attached to the public Internet.
[12:06] <Gnea> henriquelm: your best bet, if it's a production server, is to take the time and learn the commandline and do it right.
[12:06] <ikonia> or employ someone to run the server for you
[12:07] <Oli``> mneptok & henriquelm: VNC over SSH isn't so bad...
[12:07] <henriquelm> mneptok, i'm using the companys network to have access to the server, not the internet
[12:07] <mneptok> henriquelm: that's a little better, but still ....
[12:07] <krzd> hi, totem doesn't play videos like .avi and .mpg but youtube videos via the youtube plugin. it just says: Disconnected: OK. vlc works fine. i'm using ubuntu jaunty x64. what can i do?
[12:08] <mneptok> henriquelm: what you want to do is almost like buying a jet aircraft, and then replacing the flight stick with an oar, because that's what you're familiar with from your old canoe. ;)
[12:10] <Gnea> henriquelm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo
[12:10] <Gnea> henriquelm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers  is a really good general starting point
[12:11] <mneptok> henriquelm: or buy a support contract and use Landscape.
[12:11] <Gnea> henriquelm: there's even a fully detailed ssh howto linked from there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[12:11] <Gnea> oops
[12:11] <Gnea> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto  <---
[12:11] <Gnea> henriquelm: I'm sure you like your job, and I'm sure that you'd like to keep it...
[12:12] <nteunga> i want to know how i can install a little webserver on my laptop
[12:12] <mneptok> nteunga: to do what?
[12:12] <Gnea> nteunga: 'little'?
[12:12] <dsdeiz> how do you resume a process paused by ctrl+z? :S
[12:12] <Gnea> dsdeiz: fg
[12:12] <nteunga> i want to save site there
[12:13] <mneptok> nteunga: need PHP, Python, or other modules?
[12:13] <Gnea> nteunga: what site?
[12:13] <mneptok> nteunga: or just an httpd for static content?
[12:13] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how to update my seamonkey
[12:13] <nteunga> a http-site
[12:14] <mneptok> nteunga: yes, all web sites are http sites.
[12:14] <Huufarted> Question for everybody.  Last night I used G4L to swap to a 500 GB laptop drive from a 160.  I used gparted live cd to resize/move the partitions around.  Everything boots fine now, but I can see the boot-up items now and they were previously obscured by the Ubuntu splash screen.  It doesn't bother me, but why would something that innane change?
[12:14] <Gnea> !update | PerryArmstrong
[12:14] <Gnea> nteunga: again, what site?
[12:14] <Huufarted> PerryArmstrong: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:14] <PerryArmstrong> Gnea; not updating ubuntu, its my browser seamonkey which needs
[12:15] <mneptok> nteunga: do you need PHP? MySQL? Python? etc etc? or are you just serving static files?
[12:15] <michaeldadmum> !test
[12:15] <Gnea> PerryArmstrong: see the upgrading process, as it would update seamonkey
[12:15] <mneptok> nteunga: if you don;t understand my question, you probably should not be running a web server :)
[12:15] <Huufarted> PerryArmstrong: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:16] <PerryArmstrong> Gnea, Huufarted, thank you
[12:16] <mneptok> !backports > PerryArmstrong
[12:16] <trapline91> Is there away to make it where you use your Wifi connection for internet and your Ethernet Connection only for file sharing?
[12:16] <Gnea> trapline91: what's the point?
[12:17] <trapline91> good question
[12:17] <Huufarted> Does Ubuntu support ntfs reading 'out of the box'?
[12:17] <Gnea> how many internet connections do you have? :)
[12:17] <mneptok> Huufarted: yes
[12:17] <trapline91> I have a wifi connection
[12:17] <shinoj> Huufarted: yes
[12:17] <Huufarted> thanks, guys.  :)
[12:17] <trapline91> but I would like to use wired connection for filesharing
[12:17] <Huufarted> (or gals)
[12:17] <navid_> salam
[12:17] <Gnea> trapline91: allow me to rephrase... is your wifi connection connected to the same internet connection that your wired is?
[12:18] <trapline91> gnea, no
[12:18] <dusty__> Hey guys I want to start a vncserver at boot but for some reason the command executres e.g. I see the echo "loading vnc server" but when it boots to the console it doesn't actually start - I am assuming that its trying to load vncserver before it brings up the network interfaces how can i load it as the last thing ?
[12:18] <Gnea> trapline91: so you have 2 ISP's?
[12:18] <trapline91> gnea, Well the thing is atm Im using someone else's wifi :)
[12:18] <Gnea> trapline91: so you want to engage in some illicit activity :)
[12:19] <shinoj> trapline91:-D
[12:19] <trapline91> gnea, not sure I know the term illicit
[12:19] <Huufarted> !illegal | trapline91
[12:19] <trapline91> gnea, no not piracy
[12:19] <krzd> Huufarted: filesharing does not have to be illegal!
[12:19] <mneptok> trapline91: using someone else's wifi connection without their consent is illegal
[12:19] <trapline91> gnea, where do you get piracy out of all that
[12:19] <Gnea> trapline91: if I were you, I'd be praying that they don't know how to see who's connected to their AP and is ganking all of their bandwidth
[12:20] <Huufarted> krzd, I didn't say it was.  Piggy backing someone else's wifi without their knowledge or consent is, however.
[12:20] <xaos11> trapline91, if you want to use someones wifi illegally, you might as well just get TOR
[12:20] <xaos11> much easier
[12:20] <Gnea> trapline91: that's what filesharing typically entails, especially if it's off of someone elses connection.
[12:20] <krzd> Huufarted: oh, then sry ...
[12:20] <trapline91> Well if they didn't want you to use it then they need to smarten up and put security on it
[12:20] <xaos11> if it's the browsing tha tyou don't want on your ethernet line
[12:20] <mneptok> trapline91: that's fallacious logic
[12:20] <jrib> trapline91: no, not really.  Anyway this is offtopic
[12:20] <Kartagis> can you guys help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6909571#post6909571 please?
[12:21] <Huufarted> trapline91: the law doesn't see it that way.  BUT your question was how to have 2 different applications use 2 different network connections
[12:21] <mneptok> trapline91: that's like me saying "If you don;t want me punching you in the face, learn a martial art!"
[12:21] <krzd> does nobody know something about my totem problem
[12:21] <supersasho> hi.. can someone help me with proftpd configuration.. i its runnig with no problems, but i want to add another directory, to the home folder of the users joining my ftp, which is on another partition then the home folder of the users..
[12:21] <Gnea> trapline91: it'd be nice, but that's not how it works
[12:21] <jrib> !helpme | krzd
[12:21] <trapline91> mneptok, I don't think that is correct at all
[12:21] <kelli> anyone know how long it would take to clean a 500G hd with "shred"?
[12:21] <mneptok> trapline91: you are doing something illegal. the fact the OTHER person did not make it more difficult for you to break the law has no bearing on the issue.
[12:21] <krzd> !repeat
[12:21] <Akkernight> how do I get the boost library for Ubuntu? Is it possible to use the package manager?
[12:21] <Gnea> trapline91: anyways, sorry, we can't help you with that.
[12:21] <trapline91> Interesting I never knew it was illigal to use someone elses wifi...
[12:22] <Kartagis> !patience
[12:22] <sipior> trapline91: you can set up a default route for the bulk of your traffic, and a secondary route over another device to a separate host or network for file transfers. see "man route".
[12:22] <trapline91> thank you sipior
[12:22] <Huufarted> sipior, the only problem with that is with stuff like BitTorrent, most of the connections would go over the default route
[12:22] <trapline91> Well I don't use bittorrent
[12:23] <Huufarted> sipior: you'd have to specify a route for each of the peers you're connected to
[12:23] <Huufarted> trapline, then that's a non-issue for you more than likely.
[12:23] <sipior> Huufarted: yep. not my problem, however :-)
[12:23] <kelli> anyone know how long it would take to clean a 500G hd with "shred"?
[12:23] <Huufarted> kelli: depends on drive speed and connection (USB/Sata/IDE) and individual PC specs.
[12:24] <Huufarted> trapline91: which application are you using for file sharing?
[12:24] <kelli> Huufarted, usb 2
[12:24] <Huufarted> trapline91: if you don't mind me asking, that is.
[12:24] <Huufarted> kelli, more than likely, I'd say about 1-2 hours.  Perhaps more.
[12:24] <kelli> ruffly
[12:24] <Huufarted> roughly*
[12:24] <Huufarted> ruffly isn't a word.
[12:25] <kelli> ok thanks
[12:25] <dr_willis> dosent shred have like 2x overwrit or higher options for even more paranoia.
[12:25] <dr_willis> Huufarted,  my wife yas a ruffly  dress. :)
[12:25] <Huufarted> dr_willis: hence my "Perhaps more."  ;P
[12:25] <erle64-> how can i make a build with an alternative compiler?
[12:25] <kelli> ok it late here and i'm tied sorry
[12:25] <Huufarted> dr_willis, touche.  :)
[12:25] <dr_willis> Ruffles have Ridges!
[12:26] <sipior> erle-: which alternate compiler?
[12:26] <erle64-> llvm with gcc frontend
[12:26] <erle64-> sipior,
[12:27] <erle64-> compatibility is not my problem, my problem is "how to set up the operating system to choose another compiler by default", sipior
[12:27] <sipior> erle64-: might be easiest going with a "linux from scratch" approach. or gentoo.
[12:27] <erle64-> sipior, i just want to build a single app
[12:27] <erle64-> sipior, that app uses a makefile, which runs on any unix flavor
[12:27] <Huufarted> Is there a command to list currently mountable drives in ubuntu?  I have an Ext3 Drive with multiple partitions on a USB drive and I want to mount it in Ubuntu.
[12:28] <henriquelm_> thanks for the help guys
[12:28] <henriquelm_> sorry i took so long to answer
[12:28] <sipior> erle64-: oh, i see. well, you can certainly set environment variables as needed to make sure you're using the correct version of the compiler and C library. check the "CC" variable, among others. also, try "./configure --help" if the thing uses autoconf.
[12:28] <henriquelm_> someone was saying something about vnc over ssh, it that secure?
[12:28] <matadore> net
[12:29] <erle64-> sipior, ok
[12:29] <Huufarted> I'm having an issue mounting an Ext3 drive in Ubuntu.  Anybody able to tell me where I can see a list of USB drives so I can mount it manually?
[12:29] <erle64-> sipior, the languages should be compatible, but the binary format not, so i need the llvm linker and c++ compilers set, too
[12:29] <trapline91> Huufarted, I was wanting to just set up a shared folder on a home network
[12:29] <sigma92> hey guys, i have /home mounted to a separate partition, i tried out kubuntu with a clean install but using the same home partition, now ive returned to a clean install of ubuntu and my scrollbars are weird, they have both buttons at the bottom. what can i do to fix that
[12:30] <daniel-vlc> .
[12:30] <trapline91> I just did some research on the "stealing wifi" and they say it isn't illigal if the wifi is open and there is no attempt to secure it.
[12:30] <sipior> erle64-: depending on how the makefile is generated, you may have to do a fair bit of editing. generally however, you can simply set environment variables to set compiler and linker options.
[12:30] <sipior> trapline91: look, just let it go. it's rude, and that's enough reason not to do it.
[12:30] <Gnea> !freenx | henriquelm_
[12:31] <Gnea> henriquelm_: vnc sucks :)
[12:31] <Huufarted> trapline91, then you can set a static route for all traffic to that IP to use a specific gateway.  However, the OS should handle that provided both interfaces have different subnets
[12:31] <Huufarted> trapline91: then what you read is outdated.  It is illegal.  People have been and will continue to be charged with a crime for doing it.
[12:32] <Huufarted> Drop the issue, trapline91.  Do not discuss using wifi without the owner's consent.  It's an illegal practice and as indicated with !illegal, it is not a welcome topic.
[12:32] <Gnea> Huufarted: it's only as illegal as the state allows, actually.. not all states have it on the books
[12:32] <Gnea> Huufarted: so he should probably check with his local municipility before proceeding
[12:32] <trapline91> looking into it now
[12:33] <quibbler_> gentlemen give it a rest or take it to offtopic
[12:34] <henriquelm_> Gnea, ok thanks!
[12:37] <Huufarted> I currently have a drive with 2 EXT3 partitions on it.  What's the best way to format it to a single Ext3 partition?
[12:38] <sipior> Huufarted: back up everything and reformat. or, back up the higher cylinder partition, remove it, and then expand the other one.
[12:38] <erUSUL> Huufarted: use gparted remove the two partitions create a new one
[12:39] <erUSUL> Huufarted: or you meant without data loss ?
[12:39] <Huufarted> sipior, it's the reformatting (repartitioning) that I'm unsure of.
[12:39] <Huufarted> erUSUL: thanks I'll do that.
[12:39] <Huufarted> erUSUL: I don't give a fart about the data.  :)  It was a hard drive upgrade.  The data is in a G4L image as well as on a new drive.
[12:41] <krzd> does anyone know a good pdf converter?
[12:41] <Huufarted> erUSUL: thanks.  :) gparted on the way.
[12:41] <Huufarted> krzd, converting to pdf or from pdf?
[12:41] <Huufarted> krzd, and to what other format are you wanting?
[12:41] <krzd> Huufarted, from pdf to doc or sth like that
[12:42] <Huufarted> krzd, one time deal or something you're going to use a lot?  If it's one-time I'd recommend something ghetto like GMail or google docs
[12:42] <nomasteryoda> krzd, you can use Inkscape to edit pdf files
[12:42] <nomasteryoda> or export the text
[12:43] <krzd> i want to convert it including all pictures and formatting. i want to use it a lot
[12:43] <darek> hej
[12:44] <darek> ziomy sa
[12:44] <Pici> !pl | darek
[12:45] <Giddion> is ubuntu server free?
[12:45] <sigma92> hey guys, i have /home mounted to a separate partition, i tried out kubuntu with a clean install but using the same home partition, now ive returned to a clean install of ubuntu and my scrollbars are weird, they have both buttons at the bottom. what can i do to fix that
[12:45] <sipior> Giddion: yep!
[12:45] <krzd> Giddion, yes
[12:48] <OGGIE_23_> kkkkkk
[12:48] <pauli> Hello! Can somebody help me with my internet connection?
[12:48] <Akkernight> pauli, you should ask more specific questions
[12:50] <pauli> Ok, so.. I have old laptop. HP Omnibook XE3l-GF. Its have networking card with RJ-11 plugin and now i have plugged that so now its ready to connect to internet but i think Ubuntu even know i have network card.
[12:52] <archman> Hello ll!
[12:52] <archman> all*
[12:52] <sadeq> hi
[12:52] <archman> Guys, how can I run the program I've written in c# (Visual Studio). It won't run via wine (*.exe)...
[12:53] <Akkernight> how do I open a file in a text editor using the terminal?
[12:53] <Gnea> !dialup | pauli
[12:53] <sipior> archman: you'll need to install Mono
[12:53] <archman> Akkernight:gedit <file>
[12:53] <jrib> Akkernight: a gui one or you want to stay in the terminal?
[12:53] <jrib> archman: you need mono, no?
[12:54] <Grizze> b
[12:54] <archman> sipior, mono libs? or monodevelop? which doesn't work in intrepid...
[12:54] <archman> jrib^
[12:54] <pauli> ubottu: No, with enthernet :)
[12:54] <jrib> "doesn't work" is so boring
[12:54] <Gnea> pauli: you said rj-11
[12:55] <pauli> Yeah.. So, its rj-12 enthernet?
[12:55] <Gnea> hrm, no.
[12:55] <sipior> archman: mono-smcs to start
[12:55] <pauli> How in the world my friend use this laptop with enthernet then :o
[12:55] <Akkernight> does anyone know how I can ignore a specific header file using Code::Blocks? like, I don't want the project to use winsock2.h
[12:56] <NemesisX11> Hi all quick question I had a dual boot going with windows and ubuntu I have now killed my windows partiton and want to extend my ubuntu partition to take up my whole drive but dont want to loose my current ubuntu load how could I do this
[12:56] <Gnea> pauli: it's ethernet, not enthernet, and ethernet uses rj-45, while telephone uses rj-11 :)
[12:56] <pauli> Gnea: OK, thank you :) So i cant connect to internet with rj-11 using a hub?
[12:56] <Gnea> pauli: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/ethernet.htm
[12:57] <NemesisX11> Hi all quick question I had a dual boot going with windows and ubuntu I have now killed my windows partiton and want to extend my ubuntu partition to take up my whole drive but dont want to loose my current ubuntu load how could I do this
[12:57] <Gnea> pauli: no, you'd have to use rj-45, not rj-11
[12:57] <pauli> Gnea: Thank you! So, if i buy a PCMCIA card with RJ-45 plugin, can i use that with ubuntu
[12:57] <_Bart_> Hi
[12:58] <Gnea> pauli: most likely, yes
[12:58] <_Bart_> Can someone help me, I only want to let ubuntu use a part of my monitor, how can I do this?
[12:58] <myron> is there a linux command or script anyone knows of to remove bad characters (!,#,[,],(,),!, ,") from all files in a directory?
[12:58] <pauli> Gnea: ok. So, now i go eBay and buy some.. I hope its works.. Do i have to do something or just plug and pray?
[12:58] <Pici> NemesisX11: Boot up with the Ubuntu Live-CD and use gparted to extend the size of your Ubuntu parition(s).
[12:59] <sprinkmeier> myron, 'rename' should be able to do it.
[12:59] <NemesisX11> pici i tryed that but it wont let me merge the two togeather
[12:59] <myron> sprinkmeier, you know the args i need ?
[12:59] <pallino> ciao a tutti
[12:59] <archman> sipior, I cannot install it...:(, Depends: libmono-corlib2.1-cil but it is not going to be installed...tried installing it manually, but "dep is not satisfiable..." ???
[12:59] <Pici> NemesisX11: Don't merge, just delete the Windows one and extend the Linux one... if thats what you intend to do.
[13:00] <Gnea> pauli: it should plug 'n play, but you'll need to use the network manager to get up and goign
[13:00] <Gnea> pauli: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html  is a good place to start
[13:00] <NemesisX11> hmm ill try it again
[13:00] <sprinkmeier> myron, something like "rename 'y/a-zA-Z0-9//c' *"   it's a perl program using perl regexps, a perl guru might be able to help
[13:01] <Cruelty> Damn. I never saw 1340 ppl using one IRC-Channel before. ;)
[13:01] <beli_> myron: what are you trying to do?
[13:01] <Chiren> hello all !  i'm trying linux for the very first time, just installed ubuntu and i'm now looking for some good help for a total noob. can someone give me an url plz?  (in french if possible?  :)   )
[13:01] <myron> beli, get spaces, brackets and explination points out of a hole list of files
[13:01] <pallino> ! list
[13:02] <myron> beli_, ie rename the file with out thoes bad chars
[13:02] <beli_> myron: use unix text processing tools like sed/awk
[13:02] <pallino> !list
[13:02] <wuffy> hello
[13:03] <wuffy> does anyone here know if ubuntu works with wireless
[13:03] <myron> beli, I have tryed but cant seem to figure out the proper s/???? string needed
[13:03] <sipior> archman: you're running on ubuntu 8.10?
[13:03] <sprinkmeier> myron, "rename 's/[^[:alnum:]]//' *" seems to work
[13:03] <felix_> Hello, i used laptop mode but when i noticed that the hard drive is constantly turned on and off, i purged it. now the problem is that the drive is still going to sleep after some seconds and i d like to know what could cause that.
[13:03] <archman> sipior, yes
[13:03] <beli> myron: ok :) can you upload an example and tell me what you want to delete?
[13:04] <wuffy> i need assistance in getting my eeepc to work with my wireless card or what not please IM me to help if you can
[13:04] <sprinkmeier> myron, don't forget "--verbose --no-act" to see what it will do first!
[13:04] <sipior> archman: try an "apt-get update" first. it installs fine on my system.
[13:04] <beli> myron: if you just want alphanumerics to be allowed anymore...use what sprinkmeier told you...you can add more chars to the list by just...listing them ;)
[13:06] <archman> sipior, it's no use...what libmono2.0-cil version you got installed?
[13:06] <beli> myron: s/[^[:alnum:]]//   ...this searchs for anything that is NOT in the [...]list...and replaces it with nothing (deleting)
[13:06] <sprinkmeier> myron, "rename --no-act --verbose 's/[^[:alnum:]]//g' *" add other characters to the clause as required. once you're happy remove the "--no-act"
[13:06] <_Bart_> Nobody :( ?
[13:07] <archman> sipior, 'cause I installed 2.0 from external source, I guess I need to wipe it all out and build again...
[13:07] <archman> sipior, any recommendations on how to do that?
[13:07] <beli> _Bart_: i just joined..can you repeat your question?
[13:08] <sipior> archman: i have libmono-corlib2.1-cil
[13:08] <myron> beli,,,, somthing like this   "II (U) [!].zip"   to this "II__U____.zip" .... i tryed your command above it didn't seem to fix the brackets
[13:08] <_Bart_> Sure, I only want to let ubuntu use a part of my monitor, how can I do this?
[13:08] <alaa_> any one can help me to work with touch screen hp tx2000 in ubuntu 8.10
[13:08] <diouf> j want to install eclipes but tell me error of dependence
[13:08] <sipior> archman: you can grab 2.1 from the repository, no need to build anything from scratch, i think.
[13:09] <archman> sipior, I think 1.9 is the latest in reps...
[13:09] <archman> sipior, What do I need to erase to install the whole mono again?
[13:09] <beli> myron: so dont delete the matched chars...rewrite them...s/foo/bar/....the foo ist what you search for and bar is what it is replaced too
[13:09] <sledgeas> hello
[13:09] <beli> _Bart_: to use mousewheel for switching workspaces?
[13:10] <pdlnhrd> I am trying to use the ati-restrictive drivers and I can't get the settings to stick (by stick I mean after a reboot or restart of XServe).... does anyone have any advice?   or how i can remove the restrictive drivers.   i am trying to set up a dual head display
[13:10] <sprinkmeier> myron, I just tried it(   touch 'II (U) [!].zip' ; rename --verbose 's/[^[:alnum:]]//g' * ) ,  seemed to work (after I removed the --no-act)
[13:10] <alaa_> with touch screen hp tx2000 in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:10] <pallino> !list
[13:10] <sledgeas> I have just installed 64-bit Intrepid 8.10 on AMD Turion 64 X2 of my ACER Aspire 5100, but the CPU fan keeps on turning all the time loud (even when the bottom of the laptop is cool)
[13:10] <haytham-med> hi all, sometimes the sound fails (until i restart)
[13:11] <sledgeas> what could i start with?
[13:11] <_Bart_> beli, no just like my monitor is half the size
[13:12] <jetscreamer> split screen
[13:12] <beli> _Bart_: hmmm you can switch resolution....but that is always expanding to the monitor edges...hmmm....if it is possible its done by the x.org X11 server....you may ask on the xorg channel
[13:13]  * beli detex: wth does someone want to use just half of his screen?
[13:13] <_Bart_> beli, I already thought so. thanks. trying the xorg channel now but it' s a bit quiet there
[13:14] <sprinkmeier> myron, "rename --verbose 's/[^[:alnum:]]/_/g' *" will replace things that aren't alpha-numeric with underscore. without the _ it just removes the characters.
[13:14] <beli> _Bart_: xorg is well documentated...look into the docs...anyways: good luck
[13:15] <sLaeYa> hello all
[13:15] <alaa_> with touch screen hp tx2000 in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:16] <alaa_> work with touch screen hp tx2000 in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:16] <g4lt-lappy> if the touchscreen is a modified Wacom, yes.  dunno about HP
[13:16] <g4lt-lappy> toshiba works fine as a wacom
 my tablet is hp
[13:17] <cew_ayu> jh
[13:17] <alaa_> g4lt-lappy: my tablet is hp can you help me?
[13:17] <sLaeYa> Can anyone tell me how to go about getting some help with LDAP ? I have searched forums and web resource
[13:18] <myron> yay finally got it ..... Cmd 1  "rename --verbose 's/[+{;"\\=?~()<>&*|$ ]/_/g' *",,, Cmd2  "rename --verbose 's/[\!\[\]]/_/g' *"
[13:18] <myron> thanks all
[13:18] <g4lt-lappy> alanwhat did I jsut say?
[13:19] <bullium> what application handles remembering samba passwords in hardy?
[13:20] <Bass> ubuntu.fr
[13:22] <dennda> With compiz: When a window is in fullscreen mode, alt-tabbing to that window causes serious screen flickering. If the fullscreen window is viewed too long this way, it even crashes my XServer (or at least forces me to wait 2 minutes for it to come back). Is that known? Fixed yet? Workarounds?
[13:23] <aclonedsheep> Hey, I'm trying to restore my ubuntu installation from the damage of a windows install that overwrote the mbr.  I booted from a live ubuntu CD and did fdisk -l but only see one partition
[13:24] <Bass> how to go to french version?
[13:24] <dr_willis> aclonedsheep,  use sudo fdisk -l
[13:24] <jetscreamer> sounds like somebody used the restore partition
[13:24] <jetscreamer> or cd
[13:24] <SuperLag> Okay. I realize this might be a pipe dream, but I'm going to ask. On OS X, there is a terminal program called iTerm. It has a feature that allows me to open up tabs, and if I have a separate SSH session open on each tab, I can send a single command that executes *simultaneously* on each session. (that's the important part) Does anyone know of a terminal program for Linux that has just such a feature?
[13:24] <pallino> !list
[13:25] <pallino> ciao
[13:25] <Flynsarmy> What's the package that adds allt he developer tools?
[13:25] <dr_willis> SuperLag,  there are ssh tools that let you do similer things.. but ive not tried them
[13:25] <reem> hello all
[13:25] <magnetron> !bugs | dennda
[13:25] <magnetron> dennda→ all bugs are reported to Launchpad
[13:25] <SuperLag> Flynsarmy: like gcc and make? are you thinking of the package called build-essential ?
[13:26] <reem> I have a problem with jockey-gtk, I can't install my nvidia drivers :(. Does anyone know much about fixing that?
[13:26] <Flynsarmy> SuperLag, build-essential, thanks
[13:26] <SuperLag> you bet
[13:26] <macman> so
[13:27] <macman> i want to install itunes on ubuntu/ linux .. is wine or crossfire better ?
[13:27] <reem> so, nobody knows anything about dealing with jockey-gtk crashing while installing nvidia drivers?
[13:28] <reem> is there an alternative way to get them installed?
[13:28] <jetscreamer> don't install them with x running
[13:28] <reem> ok, how jetscreamer?
[13:28] <SuperLag> reem: I'm not running anything Nvidia... but are there any posts on the forums about this issue?
[13:29] <reem> yeah there are superlag
[13:29] <reem> but no reply
[13:29] <dennda> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/03/fix-for-flickering-fullscreen-application-with-compiz/ ahhh
[13:29] <SuperLag> Okay.
[13:29] <reem> I just did a fresh install :(
[13:29] <reem> of 8.10
[13:29] <jetscreamer> i don't know how ubuntu does it .. sh Nvidia-'version-pkg0.run works for me
[13:29] <SuperLag> I'd stop gdm, then run the .run script
[13:29] <SuperLag> from the command line
[13:29] <reem> ok, I'll try that jetscreamer
[13:29] <SuperLag> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[13:30] <reem> ok
[13:30] <SuperLag> then cd to the dir where you have your Nvidia .run script
[13:30] <reem> thanks superlag
[13:30] <SuperLag> and ./Nvidia-whatever-it's-called
[13:30] <jetscreamer> sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run -anN --x-module-path=`X -showDefaultModulePath 2>&1 | cut -d, -f1` --x-library-path=`X -showDefaultLibPath 2>&1`
[13:30] <Akkernight> does anyone know where std::tr1 is defined? Specificly, for GCC... I read that it's supposed to be in GCC 4.x, but I'm getting errors about it not being defined
[13:30] <SuperLag> and you may have to run it as root, I don't remember
[13:31] <archman> sipior, I installed mono-smcs. What now?
[13:31] <jetscreamer> yes as root
[13:32] <SuperLag> jetscreamer: and hopefully he'll know to reboot once he's done with that
[13:33] <jetscreamer> heh
[13:33] <jetscreamer> and has the kernel headers and kbuild
[13:34] <danlii> I just upgraded my laptop to Jaunty (x64 platform), and now Gnome won't start properly, I just get the wallpaper and nothing else. What has gone wrong? :)
[13:34] <sipior> archman: make sure you have the mono-jit package installed, and you should then be able to compile code with "mono"
[13:34] <reem> ok, off to try off your suggestions jetscreamer, superlag
[13:34] <reem> here goes
[13:34] <reem> brb
[13:34] <lesshaste> I get the error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave in ubuntu hardy
[13:34] <lesshaste> any idea how to fix it?
[13:36] <archman> sipior, I run "mono *.cs" ?
[13:36] <sipior> archman: try "man mono" to verify syntax, &cet.
[13:36] <Ajit> what should I do before reinstall my Ubuntu. (my Ubuntu is booting very slow so I wanna reinstall)
[13:36] <Ajit> I am newbie
[13:36] <Ajit> for linux
[13:37] <Ajit> I can run simple commands
[13:37] <jetscreamer> backup anything you want to keep
[13:37] <michaeldadmum> Ajit: backup /etc /home /var/lib/mysql etc
[13:37] <kitche> Ajit: it will continue to boot slow if it did at first
[13:37] <holyMoly> how can gedit display japanese?
[13:37] <sipior> Ajit: instead of reinstalling, perhaps try isolating what the problem is?
[13:37] <Guest76277> quit
[13:37] <jetscreamer> /
[13:38] <Ajit> sipior: how can I trace problem
[13:38] <Akkernight> where does GCC get installed to when installed through package manager?
[13:38] <SuperLag> /usr/bin
[13:39] <WolfyAU82> anyone know how to setup a network between an Ubuntu 8.10 machine and a Windows XP machine from the linux side?
[13:39] <tempa434> Akker: which gcc
[13:39] <tempa434> I mean, type that command "which gcc"
[13:39] <SuperLag> Akkernight: that's what I was just going to say: which gcc <-- run that
[13:39] <Akkernight> GCC 4.3
[13:40] <SuperLag> Akkernight: if you run "which gcc" from the command line, it will tell you where it got installed to
[13:40] <archman> sipior, thank you, it works. :) You got a second to check some screenshot? I got a problem running monodevelop.
[13:40] <Akkernight> oh thanks!
[13:40] <SuperLag> Akkernight: you can use "which" with any command, to find out where it is
[13:40] <sipior> archman: i'm afraid i don't, apologies. but i'm sure one of the folks here will be happy to take a look :-)
[13:40] <SuperLag> which ls, for example
[13:40] <archman> sipior, ok, tnx ;)
[13:41] <Ajit> sipior: Before reinstall do I need to unmount drives (dual boot system)
[13:41] <Akkernight> ok, where does libstdc++ get installed to? "which" command doesn't work
[13:41] <SuperLag> Ajit: it would serve you much better to figure out what is slowing your machine down
[13:42] <SuperLag> Ajit: if you simply reinstall, you run the risk of repeating your problem... and you'll have no idea what's doing it
[13:42] <FoolsRun> Hey, quick question: when sharing something out in Ubuntu versions previous to Intrepid I seem to remember an option to share via SMB or NFS. Now there's no option --does it default to one or the other? If so, is the other an option somewhere?
[13:42] <tempa434> Akker : which only works for executable (and executables that are in your path if i remember correctly )
[13:42] <Ajit> SuperLag:but how can I figure out? I am not Linux expert..just trying to migrate on Linux
[13:43] <Akkernight> The problem is that smart pointers don't work for Code::Blocks/GCC but for Visual Studio, I need it for Ubuntu and I know it has been released, std:: is a namespace in linux, right?
[13:43] <Gnea> Ajit: when the system shuts down or reboots, the filesystems are unmounted then
[13:43] <archman> Guys, I got a problem running monodevelop: http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmonodevelop.png   any thoughts?
[13:44] <michaeldadmum> Akkernight: std:: contains everything and the C++ standard library
[13:44] <fliegenderfrosch> Akkernight: in synaptics you can see all installed files of a package in the properties
[13:44] <danlii> Nobody else having problems after upgrading from Intrepid to Jaunty?
[13:44] <SuperLag> Ajit: I suggest you do some reading, to expand what you know.
[13:44] <mkrueger1> anybody here know how to fix a headless server installation with grub errors?
[13:44] <Akkernight> I know, but it just won't find std::tr1
[13:44] <SuperLag> Ajit: (and others) http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index2.html
[13:44] <tempa434> Akker : you can also check http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[13:44] <SuperLag> Ajit: that guide is free for the taking
[13:44] <FoolsRun> anyone? :)
[13:45] <erUSUL> danlii: jaunty is discusswed in #ubuntu+1 becdouse it has not been yet released
[13:45] <erUSUL> danlii: it is normal to encounter problems in beta software
[13:45] <SuperLag> Ajit: I would use the "top" command to sort by CPU and memory, to see what processes are taking up resources
[13:45] <SuperLag> That's just a start.
[13:46] <danlii> erUSUL: I know about it being normal, but thank you for the redirection.
[13:46] <holyMoly> ne1 here manage to get gedit to display chinese?
[13:46] <phjr> hi, does anybody know which ubuntu mirror is the source for other mirrors? I have a broken jaunty and am waiting for more gnome updates - but my mirror updates only every 2 hours
[13:47] <FoolsRun> Is SMB the preferred method of sharing directories to a LAN in Intrepid?
[13:47] <kitche> phjr: from the main site most likely
[13:47] <lesshaste> how do you reinstall sound in ubuntu? I seem to have screwed up the sound install
[13:47] <tempa434> Akker : Have you installed g++ ?
[13:48] <phjr> kitche: which one's that? I'm using us.archive.ubuntu.com but that updates every 2 hrs
[13:48] <tempa434> Akker : I can compile an example with std::tr1 with g++-4.2.4
[13:48] <kitche> phjr: remove the us
[13:48] <romici> hello all!! Newbie here. How do I see my Trash Can in the desktop?
[13:48] <phjr> kitche: will try
[13:48] <Noose215> I just installed a fresh copy of kubuntu 8.04 on a shuttle PC... when I type in username/pass on login screen, the monitor goes black for a second and returns to login screen!
[13:48] <erUSUL> !trash
[13:48] <Akkernight> tempa434, yes, now I'm just manually trying to download the libstdc++ through SVN, hope this will work ;)
[13:49] <FoolsRun> romici: depending on your setup, you should see a trash-can on the lower-right of your bottom bar. If you've changed that, you can re-add it by right-clicking on the bar and selecting "Add to Panel".
[13:49] <romici> ubottu: but how do I place the icon in the Desktop? please setp-by-step instructions, newbie here.
[13:50] <bn2knowitall> is there sound that goes with compiz?
[13:50] <phjr> kitche: well, no new updates for me there, but maybe that's correct
[13:50] <romici> thank you FoolsRun
[13:50] <tempa434> Akker : You don't need to install the SVN version
[13:50] <tempa434> Akker : The package version of libstdc++-dev will do nicely
[13:51] <FoolsRun> romici: you can make a shortcut to it on your desktop, but the applet for the panel is more functional
[13:51] <fliegenderfrosch> romici: afaik this is a setting in the gconf-editor
[13:51] <Akkernight> tempa434, how do I get that? through the package manager?
[13:52] <fliegenderfrosch> romici: apps-nautilus-desktop activate trash_icon_visible
[13:52] <tempa434> Akker : Yes or simply "sudo apt-get install libstdc++-dev"
[13:53] <FoolsRun> One more re-phrasing: if I have two Ubuntu machines, what's the preferred method of sharing folders between them? SMB? NFS? FTP?
[13:53] <Akkernight> my package manager won't find it...
[13:53] <fnando> hey guys... i'm creating some shell script using the `dialog` command... how can i verify the options returned by --checklist? something like if is in the list, execute a command
[13:53] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: do you need to constantly have access to a folder on Machine2 from Machine1?
[13:53] <romici> smb
[13:53] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: or are you just looking for a way to occasionally transfer stuff between them?
[13:54] <SuperLag> no, not SMB
[13:54] <FoolsRun> SuperLag: machine1 is a "server" (just a stand-alone machine in my house), machine2 is a laptop that will need to access shares from machine1 when it's on-network
[13:54] <SuperLag> SMB is for Windows sharing
[13:54] <Akkernight> tempa434, how do I choose a explicit install?
[13:54] <romici> I dont know, I just guessed...hehehe
[13:54] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: then I would use NFS
[13:55] <romici> I use it like that, Iḿ doing a triple boot...I just loo up in Media, en xelect the drive I want, and I trasnfere files just like windows.
[13:55] <FoolsRun> SuperLag: There used to be a gui way to create NFS shares --I don't see it anymore, though. I assume I'll be editing config files to set it up?
[13:55] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: this is a very short and crude explanation. You define what "shares" (the proper term is 'exports') in /etc/exports on your server. Then you add them to /etc/fstab on your "client"
[13:56] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: you need NFS stuff installed and enabled on the server, and you need to know how to set up the rules properly
[13:56] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: make sense?
[13:56] <durt> FoolsRun, do you not have a shared folders dialog in system or system tools?
[13:56] <FoolsRun> SuperLag: I'm betting I can find a howto on that somewhere. Yes, that makes sense. Is there a reason NFS sharing was removed from the Nautilus gui in Intrepid? (was it? I don't see it anymore)
[13:57] <durt> FoolsRun, from applications.
[13:57] <FoolsRun> durt: no, I don't see "Shared Folders" in System/Administration
[13:57] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: as to the poobah's reasons for removing the GUI tool, I'm not sure.
[13:57] <tempa434> Akker : What version of ubuntu ?
[13:57] <FoolsRun> durt: oh, no, I don't see it under Applications/System Tools either
[13:57] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: I just use the final product :)
[13:57] <FoolsRun> SuperLag: no problem, just curious. Seems like Ubuntu defaults to SMB, which makes sense.
[13:58] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: for Windows, yes.
[13:58] <SuperLag> FoolsRun: not for *nix to *nix
[13:58] <FoolsRun> SuperLag: For Windows and MacOS. It's a shitty standard, but it's a common one.
[13:59] <Akkernight> tempa434, I pm'ed you the error report, incase it was too long and was considered flooding, I used the command sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-4.3-dev 4.3.2-1ubuntu12
[13:59] <durt> FoolsRun, I'm running Jaunty Xubuntu and it's there.  With my nfs share.
[14:01] <FoolsRun> durt: all of my access to my "machine1" is remote and some admin gui tools don't seem to like that. I've read a bunch of bug reports on it. In short, in both shares-admin and users-admin the "unlock" button is grayed out no matter how I run it.
[14:01] <FoolsRun> So I'll just do it all via command line
[14:03] <Tobberoth> Can the ubuntu InstallationMinimalCD be used from a USB stick somehow?
[14:04] <FoolsRun> Thanks for your help, guys!
[14:04] <Tobberoth> feels kinda dumb to waste a whole CD on a 10MB file
[14:04] <FoolsRun> Tobberoth: CDs are cheaper than thumb drives, though :)
[14:04] <durt> !usb | Tobberoth
[14:05] <Gothfunc> hi.  just installed aptana.  the workspace is on my fileserver, and .metadata and contents is being created with root as group and owner, instead of the user i'm running aptana as.  i've tried chown/chgrp -R, but all new files are owned by root.  this inevitably causes permission errors.  any ideas why this is happening?
[14:05] <bullium> what application handles passwords in 8.04 for say samba shares, ftp, through nautilus?
[14:06] <kitche> bullium: gnome-keyring
[14:06] <sky_> hi
[14:06] <sky_> i need antivirus
[14:07] <DJones> !virus | sky_
[14:07] <SuperLag> for what?
[14:07] <bullium> kitche: that doesn't seem to be the actually executable name, do you know what the name is?
[14:08] <sky_> i run a game called WoW and i get C++ error...i searched and i found that is virus (wow files are infected maybe....so that i cant run the game)
[14:09] <sky_> anyone ?
[14:10] <durt> sky_ in wine?
[14:10] <Tobberoth> This might be a dumb question but.. can I use syslinux from ubuntu in virtualbox on windows to make a USB stick bootable? or will VirtualBox interfere in the process?
[14:10] <Akkernight> Anyone know when GCC will be avaible for Ubuntu?
[14:10] <sky_> durt: yes in wine
[14:10] <macman_> hey guys .. i just rmed a parition .. dev/sda3 witch was osx , it is now unaloocated space .. how can i move that space to /dev/sda1 ?
[14:10] <kitche> bullium: should be gnome-keyring but I do  not use gnome so I m not quite sure
[14:10] <Akkernight> GCC 4.4*
[14:10] <durt> sky_ what is the actual error?
[14:11] <Akkernight> sorry about that >.<
[14:11] <jetscreamer> gparted
[14:11] <ImInYourMonad> is that Ubuntu int he car that Jack Bauer uses in the last 24 episode?
[14:11] <sky_> durt: WoW r6002 Runtime Error Floating point not loaded
[14:12] <guilitev> Hello
[14:12] <guilitev> I would like to find the .deb of wicd
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> ImInYourMonad: can you get a screenshot / image
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> !wicd
[14:12] <guilitev> It's to install on a pc without connection with networl manager
[14:13] <kitche> guilitev: http://apt.wicd.net
[14:13] <kitche> guilitev: only took two seconds to look on wicd website
[14:13] <guilitev> I look
[14:13] <durt> sky_ most likely not a virus prob. Maybe google for instructions on how to get WoW to work in wine.
[14:13] <sky_> durt: i already run it for a months
[14:14] <sky_> durt: but now i get this error :X
[14:14] <guilitev> Sorrry but I can find
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> guilitev: you can set static ip with /etc/etwork/interfaces to get a connection
[14:14] <guilitev> Somebody have the direct link ?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> guilitev: even if someone gives you a direct link, you will need to satisfy dependancies and the whole thing just gets unfeasible
[14:15] <ubuntu_> hey what was the command sry ' forget
[14:15] <durt> sky_ , I stand corrected, try clamav.
[14:15] <ubuntu_> cp dev zero dev
[14:15] <guilitev> OK I try again on an other network
[14:15] <guilitev> Have a nice day
[14:17] <donjuanluis07> hey guys thanks again for the help last week.  I wanted to know if you knew where the HYLAFAX irc chat is?
[14:17] <haptiK> your mothers house
[14:18] <lyhana8> hi, how can i use a regexp to match only a uppercase letter ?
[14:18] <haptiK> sorry i couldnt resist
[14:18] <donjuanluis07> har har
[14:18] <haptiK> [A-Z]
[14:18] <donjuanluis07> i luv you guys
[14:18] <sky_> !clamav
[14:18] <ikonia> gents, could we return to support issues please
[14:18] <haptiK> do youlove us longtime
[14:18] <nikitis> Do you guys know if Ubuntu has drivers for the new Dell Mini 10?
[14:19] <ubd> how do ' delete the hd contents
[14:19] <haptiK> 5 dolla?
[14:19] <lyhana8> haptiK: [a-z][N][a-z] this find also when a 'n' is in the middle
[14:19] <ikonia> haptiK: please stop
[14:19] <haptiK> :p
[14:19]  * haptiK &
[14:19] <ikonia> haptiK: no - please stop
[14:19] <donjuanluis07> im cereal guys, need to know where to go for hylafax irc chat, oh and happy St. Pattys day!
[14:19] <trinidad> try the dell specific version of ubuntu that should
[14:19] <Gothfunc> might i encounter any problems using usermod -u?  i need to sync my uid with my fileserver, but i'm a little worried changing it will mess something up
[14:19] <ikonia> donjuanluis07: hylafax has a support channel and forum
[14:20] <Oli``> What gmail notifiers do people here use?
[14:20] <ImInYourMonad> http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7721/linux24.jpg <- Linux in Jack Bauer's stolen car
[14:20] <nikitis> trinidad, there's no option for ubuntu when purchasing a dell mini 10
[14:20] <Gothfunc> Oli``: G1 ;)
[14:20] <ScottG4> How do I remove something from my Places > Bookmarks ?
[14:20] <ikonia> !offtopic
[14:20] <donjuanluis07> support channel??
[14:20] <ImInYourMonad> Fedora?
[14:20] <jmdc> ubotu: !pastebin
[14:20] <jmdc> ubottu: !pastebin
[14:20] <donjuanluis07> so #hylafax is theirs?
[14:20] <ikonia> gents please check the /topic of this channel before posting more random links
[14:20] <ikonia> donjuanluis07: ask them
[14:20] <kitche> ImInYourMonad: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:20] <ikonia> donjuanluis07: this is not a yellow pages channel
[14:20] <donjuanluis07> k
[14:21] <donjuanluis07> gracias
[14:21] <sky_> how i can scan with clamav ?
[14:21] <Oli``> sky_: install clamtk
[14:21] <perno> ciao ragazzi
[14:21] <ScottG4> Does anyone know how I can remove a bookmark in ubuntu from Places > Bookmarks?
[14:21] <perno> c'è qualcuno in ascolto?
[14:21] <trinidad> is there a good peer 2 peer program for ubuntu?
[14:21] <ikonia> !it > perno
[14:21] <Akkernight> jeez, Ubuntu is actually forcing me to go back to Windows D:
[14:22] <Oli``> ScottG4: load up a nautilus window (by clicking one of the places) and right click the place in the sidebar, click remove
[14:22] <ScottG4> Oli``: ooh right, thanks!
[14:23] <macman_> http://i40.tinypic.com/wcmjk9.png < --- here is my gparted i want to move the unallocated space to /dev/sda1 .. any ideas ?
[14:23] <sky_> my WoW is infected by W32.Parite.B...anyone know how i can fix it ?
[14:24] <jmdc> I'm having trouble with apt. I did an apt-get build-dep gnome-applets, and got lots of weird output, like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132504/ That's just a snip, there was a lot of similar junk. After several minutes, I stopped apt with Ctrl-c.
[14:24] <sLaeYa> ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) any ideas ?
[14:24] <sLaeYa> I deffinately put the right password in there
[14:24] <jmdc> Akkernight: what's your issue?
[14:25] <sky_> anyone ?
[14:25] <vigo> sky_: Unistall and re-install WoW, or use that backup. Look at Symantec or something
[14:25] <Akkernight> jmdc, C++0x stuff... stl_algobase.h is spamming errors
[14:26] <sky_> vigo: reinstalling omg ????
[14:26] <vigo> sky_: If you look at some AV sites they have removal tools for such stuff.
[14:26] <LjL> jmdc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scrollkeeper/+bug/277794
[14:27] <sky_> i hate windows appz as they can be infected -_-
[14:27] <smtp_> Hey
[14:27] <Akkernight> hmm.. Seems like I forgot to build this
[14:27] <vigo> sky_: Ok, that was a bit radical, but if all else fails, that is why we make incremental backups.
[14:27] <Oli``> sky_: as I said before, install clamtk to make clamsv scanning easier
[14:27] <smtp_> Is there a file or something (like /etc/redhat-release) that I can check to see which version of Ubuntu is running?
[14:27] <Oli``> sky_: otherwise: clamav --help in  a terminal
[14:28] <sky_> Oli``: i scanned already :X
[14:28] <jmdc> Ljl: thanks. I will check the bug tracker next time.
[14:28] <Akkernight> Is Ubuntu a Debian Linux?
[14:28] <vigo> sky_ : WoW is on the windoze volume?
[14:28] <Skaarj_> Akkernight: yes
[14:28] <LjL> jmdc: you're welcome. you can see that one of the last postings suggests a fix - i have no idea on the validity of it, however
[14:28] <LjL> !debian | Akkernight
[14:29] <sLaeYa> can anyone help me with my LDAP problem - http://paste.ubuntu.com/132508/
[14:29] <sky_> vigo: windows volume ?
[14:29] <sky_> vigo: you mean partition ?
[14:29] <Oli``> smtp_: uname -a gives you a good clue
[14:29] <vigo> sky_: Yes
[14:29] <sky_> is fat32 windoze partition ?
[14:29] <vigo> sky_: Yes, it can be
[14:30] <sky_> omg :X
[14:31] <satya> Hi need some help with ubuntu
[14:31] <vigo> sky_: What Oli'' said was pretty much correct, if it is a windoze partition that is infected, or a program on that part, log onto it and repair it.
[14:31] <sky_> !ask satya
[14:31] <satya> i am using windows in one harddrive and ubuntu 6.06 LTS but unable to mount windows drive
[14:31] <embryonalni> hey please help I cant use math.function in python.. do I need to install sth?
[14:32] <embryonalni> ??python
[14:32] <vigo> sky_: You could run the Clam from Linux and maybe clean it, just make sure you have incremental back-ups
[14:33] <durt> embryonalni, go ask the folks in #ubuntu-offtopic they love python
[14:34] <vigo> !python
[14:34] <Pici> embryonalni: #python would be much more on topic for your question.
[14:35] <corey> Are certain OS's more power efficient than others?
[14:35] <embryonalni> Pici: i cant log into #python cause of the nickserv
[14:35] <Pici> embryonalni: Then reigster your nick
[14:35] <erUSUL> corey: they can be. it depends on a lot of things
[14:35] <Pici> !register > embryonalni
[14:35] <vigo> corey: Yes, kinda depends though
[14:35] <Pici> corey: Its not really on-topic for this channel.
[14:36] <embryonalni> Pici: i am waiting for some email from the nickserv...
[14:36] <Kalisto_> afternoon :D
[14:36] <erUSUL> corey: a good place to start about power efficiency and linux is http://www.lesswatts.org/
[14:36] <Pici> embryonalni: Ask in #freenode if you are having issues.
[14:36] <erUSUL> corey: specially the poertop utillity
[14:36] <Pici> !ot
[14:37] <erUSUL> !info powertop | corey
[14:37] <gte351s> hi - I'm trying to mount a windows share using http://pastie.org/418710, but I get the error "CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22"... anyone knows why?
[14:38] <sky_> loool my fat32 is full infected by Parite.B :D
[14:38] <Akkernight> Are there issues with including mingw includes, and the usr/include ?
[14:38] <LjL> !antivirus | sky_
[14:38] <klaas> hey, I got a question converning memtest - its showing that its only scanning 3gb of my memory, how can I test the remaining memory?
[14:39] <Boohbah> klaas: probably need to enable highmem in the kernel
[14:39] <corey> thanks guys!
[14:39] <klaas> its running preboot Boohbah
[14:39] <genii> gte351s: Try installing the package: smbfs
[14:39] <erUSUL> Boohbah: memtest does not use the linux kernel afaik
[14:40] <erUSUL> klaas: found this http://www.google.es/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xtremesystems.org%2Fforums%2Farchive%2Findex.php%2Ft-144855.html&ei=Q7a_SZSlOOTGjAfAicEo&usg=AFQjCNFZ6Is0koI3FwjThu1gAxBfsuID3Q&sig2=lV3kas9qX28D5W1a1tHvFA
[14:42] <Boohbah> "The only exception is memory segments that begin above 3GB. Testing has shown that these segments are typically not safe to test."
[14:42] <Boohbah> klaas: http://www.memtest86.com/tech.html
[14:43] <Bodsda> Hi, im trying to change my terminal prompt to be red, and in the format of    username@HH:MM:SS$     My PS1 line looks like this: PS1='\[0;31]\\u@\t$ '    and it gets displayed in my normal terminal colours like this: 0;31bod@14:42:46$     What did i do wrong?
[14:43] <gte351s> genii: thanks, I'll try
[14:43] <klaas> Boohbah so there is no way to check securely above 3gb?
[14:44] <phjr> Bodsda: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt
[14:44] <Bodsda> phjr: ive been reading this one - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=674446
[14:44] <bob_brain> I just did a network upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.1 and now my screen resolution is stuck really low and I can't turn it up: I'm using the right Nvidia driver and I am using a laptop if that is any help
[14:45] <phjr> Bodsda: try the syntax in what I sent, seems there's more stuff in the PS1 var
[14:45] <Boohbah> klaas: i'm not sure, i just googled "memtest 3gb"
[14:46] <FoolsRun> Hey, do you know how I'd go about undoing polkit-auth myusername --user root
[14:46] <Bodsda> phjr: ok,cheers
[14:46] <FoolsRun> because that seems to have broken stuff
[14:46] <phjr> Bodsda: let me know :)
[14:47] <dsdeiz> hi my mic is working, i can hear my own voice, although i was wondering why it isn't being recorded when i use the sound recorder
[14:48] <dsdeiz> anyone? :S
[14:48] <KingWilliam> Ubuntu says ny filesystem is mounted read-only
[14:48] <Aerration> HI ALLL!!!
[14:48] <KingWilliam> Waht should i do?
[14:48] <Boohbah> !hi | Aerration
[14:48] <drew_> I wonder, is there any Female ubuntu users?
[14:49] <Boohbah> KingWilliam: reboot, fsck
[14:49] <paper> hi.. i need your help !! i can´t to play flash videos from youtube web !!
[14:49] <phjr> Bodsda: this works... export PS1='\[\e[1;31m\]\u@\h:\w\$\[\e[0m\] '
[14:49] <jway> how do I disable my integrated webcam _
[14:49] <Aerration> I'm trying to install some FFADO stuff and I got this message :  "Depends: libxml++2.6c2a  but it is not installable"
[14:49] <KingWilliam> Boohbah: Ill try
[14:49] <vigo> paper: You can install Flash, or Gnash or SWF
[14:50] <Aerration> paper did you install the flash player?
[14:50] <KingWilliam> jway: Take a nail and a hamer...
[14:50] <bob_brain> is there a command to edit my screen resolution directly?
[14:50] <paper> vigo... yes.. i did
[14:50] <jway> KingWilliam, gee thanks
[14:50] <vigo> paper: Is Java and Java script enabled in the Browser?
[14:50] <sebsebseb>  
[14:51] <paper> i has been put  libflasplayer.so into  /urs/lib/firefox-3.0.7  and make +rx attrib
[14:51] <sebsebseb>  
[14:51] <paper> i have activated java and java script
[14:52] <vigo> paper: Which browser?
[14:52] <paper> youtube show me "Tranferiendo datos de xxx.cache.googlevideo..."
[14:52] <dsdeiz> anyone can help me?
[14:52] <paper> which Firefox 3.0.7 and  firefox 3.1b3 (is same problem)
[14:52] <sebsebseb> dsdeiz: with what?
[14:53] <durt> dsdeiz, most likely, just ask.
[14:53] <sebsebseb> !ask
[14:53] <truk77> Hi there.  Can anybody recommend the best "howto" to use for installing a custom kernel into Ubuntu Hardy?  I've done Kernel recompiles before, but I want to make sure I don't screw anything up
[14:53] <sebsebseb> truk77: why do you want to do a custom kernel?
[14:53] <dsdeiz> uhm, i can hear myself using the mic, although ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to record it
[14:53] <truk77> sebsebseb: I'm trying to get iscsi to work, and it looks like there might be some kernel voodoo involved
[14:53] <dsdeiz> i'm testing it using gnome-sound-recorder
[14:53] <vigo> paper: Are those supported in that install?
[14:54] <sebsebseb> truk77: not  quite sure, but I think probably not, also you could upgrade to 8.10 for a later kernel
[14:54] <sebsebseb> truk77: well I assume 8.10 has a later kernel than 8.04
[14:54] <dsdeiz> oh, after running gnome-sound-recorder, my mic stopped working
[14:54] <paper> vigo......i can see flashplayer only with  Opera browser
[14:55] <truk77> sebsebseb: strangely enough, 8.10 wouldn't even boot on the system they were trying to load it on.  I think my best bet at this point is to go with Hardy and try to patch the kernel by hand
[14:55] <sebsebseb> paper: yes Firefox and FLash hum
[14:55] <sebsebseb> paper: also why not just use Flash from the repo?
[14:55] <sebsebseb> truk77: how much RAM?
[14:55] <vigo> paper: Ok, then I assume it is a bad or messed up browser, update it or fix it to the supported one
[14:55] <paper> install flash player from synaptic??  yes... i did
[14:55] <sebsebseb> paper: or how about trying a Flash alternative such as Gansh or Swfdec, you may find that's good enough for your Flash usage
[14:56] <truk77> sebsebseb: it's got at least a gig...I haven't actually been given access to the machine yet.  Just getting my ducks in a row, so to speak.  I seriously doubt the RAM is the issue
[14:56] <sebsebseb> paper: that's Gnash
[14:56] <sebsebseb> truk77: who is they? I only joined here a little while ago
[14:57] <bob_brain> what do I need to add to my xorg file in order to enable more screen resolutions?
[14:57] <XPS_M1330> where are the FONTS stored in the filesystem?
[14:57] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: have you got  your graphics card driver installed?
[14:57] <paper> y has been installed gnash (same problem)....  i don´t know what to make now
[14:57] <erUSUL> !kernel | truk77
[14:57] <truk77> sebsebseb: my IT guys.  But we're getting off topic.  All I'm looking for is a guide to installing a custom kernel in Hardy :)
[14:57] <bob_brain> sebsebseb: yes I do
[14:57] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: ok how old is the computer?
[14:58] <truk77> ubottu: Thanks, I'll check those out
[14:58] <workPragmatist> Is it possible to constantly show the changes of a .log file and parse them to a terminal?
[14:58] <sebsebseb> truk77: your IT guys, oh right, so  your getting UBuntu installed in some organisation? well that's great
[14:58] <stoepsl> hey
[14:58] <vigo> paper: reboot, some of those codecs require a re-boot, or not.
[14:58] <erUSUL> workPragmatist: "tailf /var/log/messages"
[14:58] <bob_brain> sebsebseb: like 2 years, I had everything running great but then I updated to the newest release and everything went crazy and now I can only select a tiny resolution
[14:58] <sebsebseb> stoepsl: hello
[14:58] <erUSUL> !info multitail | workPragmatist
[14:59] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: ok  8.10 has a completly differnet xorg to 8.04
[14:59] <sebsebseb> truk77: I don't know about installing custom kernels in Ubuntu
[14:59] <sarmisak> hi all
[14:59] <sebsebseb> sarmisak: hello
[14:59] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: you got an old graphics card?
[15:00] <Kiaas> I'm on xubuntu 8.10. I have XFCE configured just the way I want it...for a different user.
[15:00] <bob_brain> sebsebseb: its and Nvidia geforce go 7600
[15:00] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: so  a resaobnlly new card?
[15:00] <bob_brain> sebsebseb: so its not that old
[15:00] <Kiaas> How can I copy the settings for XFCE over for that different user, and deny them the ability to change it?
[15:00] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: yes certain Nivida cards have issues with xorg it seems
[15:00] <vigo> sebsebseb: I thought the 8.04.2 was the same as the 8.10?
[15:00] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: ,because NIvidia don't suppourt xorg properly for every card they have
[15:00] <sebsebseb> vigo: oh 8.04.2  don't know if they put the 8.10 xorg in that or not
[15:01] <bob_brain> sebsebseb: it was working fine prior to my upgrade
[15:01] <sebsebseb> vigo: ,but in the former 8.04 stuff differnet xorg
[15:01] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: to be honest 8.10 is hardly an upgrade over 8.04
[15:01] <vigo> sebsebseb: Yes, I think the 8.04.2 has that stuff
[15:02] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: that auto shut down feature, is about the only new end user 8.10 feature that I use
[15:02] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: if not the only
[15:02] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: well and the 8.10 version of Banshee from the repo, but can get that in hardy with a ppa anyway
[15:02] <sky_> can i resize ntfs partition from linux and create a new ext3 or any unix like fs ?
[15:02] <sebsebseb> bob_brain: anyway I am going 9.04 alpha6 later on today :)
[15:03] <bob_brain> sebsebseb: well anyways, I did the 'upgrade' and now I can't get my resolution to work properly
[15:03] <bob_brain> sebsebseb: sounds very cool
[15:03] <erUSUL> sky_: yes; depending on the disk layout
[15:03] <sebsebseb> sky_: yes you can
[15:03] <Kiaas> Am I going to have to redo all my customizations for XFCE on the other account? and then, how can I lock it so that user can't change it afterwards? (deploying normal xubuntu 8.10 for a school.)
[15:03] <sebsebseb> sky_: ,but you can't resize  the partitions that Ubuntu is using,  since  they are running, and so Live CD to resize those
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: hello again
[15:04] <BigMoopies> is "powernowd" really needed?
[15:04] <BigMoopies> I'm not on a laptop
[15:04] <sky_> thank you
[15:04] <sky_> and which tool is for this ?
[15:04] <sebsebseb> sky_: Gparted
[15:04] <sebsebseb> sky_: the partition editor
[15:04] <sky_> thank you :)
[15:05] <sebsebseb> sky_: use Ext3 for now, but  later on you will probably want to change to Ext4
[15:05] <sky_> yea i know
[15:05] <sky_> mmm but i cant resize it
[15:05] <BigMoopies> That's another question , how do I know if I am using ext3 or ext4
[15:05] <Anna_111> installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install but the problem persists. Please help. Before this install I installed the same version with / and swap partition and it worked. But now I have /, /home, and swap. I am using the LiveCd to install. The LiveCd checked out fi
[15:06] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: wel  no versions of UBuntu have Ext4  suppourt yet, but 9.04 released at the end of April will have
[15:06] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, OK.  What's the big deal about it ?
[15:06] <Kiaas> Let me rephrase my question... I'm not sure if this is a #ubuntu or #xfce question, but I have XFCE configured the way I want it for another user to have it, how can I copy the settings over, or do I need to redo them? and also, after the settings are in place, how can I lock it so the user can't change it?
[15:06] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ok that's  not got anything to do with the partitions
[15:07] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: it will be faster and such
[15:07] <Anna_111> sebsebseb!!!! What gives?
[15:07] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, OK.  I'm guessing the next LTS next year will have it ?
[15:07] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: Gnome  config stuff errors ok
[15:07] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: GNome works though?
[15:07] <Anna_111> All I am getting is a blank screen after I click to that message.
[15:07] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: no  Jaunty 9.04 will have Ext4 as an option
[15:08] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: damn
[15:08] <edwardgilf> hey guys, does anyone know how can I get my "brightness key" to work on a HP dv3000 series notebook?, The screen doesn't get dimmed using the ubuntu's panel applet. thanks.
[15:08] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I don't want to use normal releases
[15:09] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: why not?
[15:09] <Anna_111> sebsebseb, I have already formatted the partition and then reinstalled. But it did not work.
[15:09] <sinelaw> help! apt-get fails with segfault
[15:09] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I got this one working, it's supported.. why change ?
[15:09] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: that error seems familur from ages ago
[15:09] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: I think I seen it before
[15:09] <afancy> hi, is there a new version Ubuntu 9.10 released ??
[15:09] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[15:09] <keepsake> sinelaw: Try http://codepoets.co.uk/apt-get_segfault_sts.
[15:10] <sebsebseb> afancy: end of April
[15:10] <sky_> hmm i cant resize it :(
[15:10] <oskar-> afancy, even 9.04 is not yet released
[15:10] <sebsebseb> sky_: on the LIve  CD you can resize stuff
[15:10] <sky_> sebsebseb: i cant resize it and yes its not mounted
[15:10] <sky_> sebsebseb: i mean ntfs partition
[15:10] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, Why risk something going wrong like in Intrepid ?
[15:10] <fliegenderfrosch> afancy: the next version is 9.04, released on april 23rd, 9.10 will be released in october
[15:10] <afancy> ok
[15:11] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I  tried to install Intrepid and it wouldn't get an internal IP and connect to my network.  The router light would just flash and twinkle like there was 'high traffic'
[15:11] <keepsake> afancy: The alpha6 of 9.04 is released though, and the beta is coming soon.
[15:11] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: Intrepid  works about as good as hardy
[15:11] <afancy> I am using 8.10, my x-server crrashed twice then i have to reinstall Ubuntu
[15:11] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, LOL yeah OK sure.
[15:11] <sinelaw> keepsake, thanks! solved!
[15:12] <keepsake> sinelaw: No problem =P
[15:12] <keepsake> afancy: Seems like 8.04 is probably more stable for now.
[15:12] <kungfoollama> I am kungfoollama fear my kungfoo
[15:12] <afancy> now, but i cannot recover my xwindow
[15:12] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I'm a "whatever works" kind of guy.  I mean.. Why should I be making Intrepid work if I already have hardy, or put myself through such things if updates are coming in on a LTS just like the other ones ?
[15:13] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: lol  the other ones have  some more advanced features.  ,but yes  8.10 and 8.04 not that different really, but 9.04 will be quite differnet to 8.04
[15:13] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I mean really I am asking.  Besides the fact they have new versions of KDE/Gnome
[15:13] <kungfoollama> I am kungfoollama fear my kungfoo
[15:13] <sky_> why i cant resize ntfs ? -_-
[15:13] <kungfoollama> kung foo llama to the rescue
[15:14] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, Isn't the next Ubuntu LTS coming out NEXT April ?
[15:14] <afancy> Hi, could anybody know how to reinstall X-Server
[15:14] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: something like that
[15:14] <kungfoollama> kung foo llama to the rescue
[15:14] <keepsake> BigMoopies: 8.10 and 8.04 LTS are virtually the same. If 8.04 works for you, you should stick with it unless you want the newer repos.
[15:14] <BigMoopies> keepsake, OK.
[15:14] <kungfoollama> kung foo llama to the rescue
[15:14] <kungfoollama> kung foo llama to the rescue
[15:15] <kungfoollama> kung foo llama to the rescue
[15:15] <FloodBot2> kungfoollama: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <afancy> I cannot start my x-windows, it complains "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)"
[15:15] <pvtpete> hi
[15:15] <durt> !spam > kungfoollama
[15:15] <Kartagis> what's the alsa version in jaunty?
[15:15] <kungfoollama> I am kung foo llama
[15:15] <afancy> how to reinstall x-windows?
[15:15] <sarmisak> kungfoollama: ok.
[15:15] <kavity_> afancy: Do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[15:15] <mcr> is there any official way to turn off the udev consistent naming of ethernet interfaces?  It's not useful for virtual appliances....
[15:15] <pvtpete> anyone here able to troubleshoot sata problems?
[15:15] <afancy> kavity_:  yes, i have installed just now
[15:15] <kungfoollama> Kung foo llama to the rescue
[15:16] <sarmisak> pvtpete: like what?
[15:16] <afancy> kavity_: there is another error
[15:16] <kavity_> afancy: And have you set up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[15:16] <pvtpete> like I boot my machine from ubuntu IDE hdd and it works fine but when I boot with sata I just get a flashing prompt
[15:16] <LimeBurst> linux filesystem
[15:16] <pvtpete> not even a command line
[15:17] <afancy> kavity_: i have install nvidia-glx-180
[15:17] <sarmisak> pvtpete: hmm, might it be a mainboard version problem?
[15:17] <keepsake> Kartagis: I think you should find something if you look it up on google, one of the results say .18
[15:17] <sarmisak> pvtpete: some don't boot from sata
[15:17] <afancy> kavity_: is it correct on my installation package?
[15:17] <mcr> pvtpete, are you attempting to move a cable, or is this a different disk?  Are you booting from the cdrom, or what?
[15:17] <sky_> anyone know why i can resize my ntfs partition ?
[15:17] <pvtpete> booting from an IDE disk
[15:17] <pvtpete> with ubuntu
[15:17] <mcr> sounds like the grub on the sata doesn't know which disk is which.
[15:17] <BigMoopies> keepsake, sebsebseb I am guessing ext3 will not convert to ext4 ? like FAT32 converts to NTFS in windows
[15:18] <pvtpete> and extra storage drives (sata) attached to mainboard and adaptec raid card
[15:18] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: correct, but there is a way to get some of Ext4's functionality in Ext3
[15:18] <pvtpete> perhaps there are ubuntu drivers for it ?
[15:18] <mcr> pvtpete, what disk is grub installed on?
[15:18] <pvtpete> the idea
[15:18] <pvtpete> ide
[15:18] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: at the moment in the development versions of 9.04 there is a data loss bug with Ext4 also, that hasn't been sorted out yet
[15:18] <Pici> !jaunty | sebsebseb
[15:18] <keepsake> BigMoopies: ext3 should be able to be changed to ext4
[15:18] <mcr> and are you trying to boot different kernels from different disks, or just booting with the sata plugged in?
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Pici: ha ha,  I already done that to a few people
[15:18] <Kartagis> I am using intrepid. can i install software from jaunty repos?
[15:19] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, keepsake sounds like a whole nother reason not to 'upgrade'
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Kartagis: maybe, but not a good idea, could really mess your system up
[15:19] <keepsake> BigMoopies: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[15:19] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: yes don't get 9.04 untill it's stable
[15:19] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: don't get 9.04 untill the final release
[15:19] <pvtpete> just booting with sata plugged in
[15:19] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: anything before that expect bugs
[15:20] <keepsake> sebsebseb, BigMoopies: Some people say it's pretty stable already, though the final does come pretty soon, in about a month or so.
[15:20] <Kartagis> sebsebseb, do you know how I can do it? I need to upgrade alsa
[15:20] <Pici> sebsebseb: Then you should know better than to discuss Jaunty in this channel.
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Pici: heh are you an op?
[15:20] <Pici> sebsebseb: Does it matter?
[15:20] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I'm just gonna wait on the next LTS.  It's like I'm not going to "upgrade" to Vista
[15:21] <BigMoopies> (from XP)
[15:21] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: yeah Vista is hardly worth the upgrade from XP, just as Windows 7 is hardly worth the upgrade from XP either, but enough fools will upgrade  to WIndows 7 from XP
[15:21] <dsdeiz> any fluxbox users here?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: instead of getting a decant OS,  as in Linux distro, Mac OS X, or BSD,  etc
[15:21] <colouragga> where is the kungfu lama?
[15:21] <dimitree> Hello :) Do i have to reinstall Ubuntu Alpha 6 when a new Alpha is available ? Or i just keep updating it ?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[15:21] <sarmisak> dimitree: you just upgrade
[15:22] <keepsake> BigMoopies: Well, Jaunty is supposed to have a bunch of performance tweaks and such.
[15:22] <dimitree> sarmisak upgrade or update from the update manager ?
[15:22] <keepsake> BigMoopies: Unlike the XP -> Vista that slowed your computer down.
[15:22] <Cybix> Hello people. Is there a way to install and select a GDM theme as default by use of the prompt? I need to install it for somebody, but I only have SSH access to the box
[15:22] <sarmisak> dimitree: should work fine, as it has been working for me for years
[15:22] <sebsebseb> keepsake: it has bugs also blah de blah.  new Ubuntu users shoudn't be trying development versions of 9.04
[15:22] <sarmisak> dimitree: update
[15:22] <sarmisak> dimitree: but you can upgrade from update manager also
[15:23] <BigMoopies> sebsebseb, I think MS is gonna axe XP within a few years though.  keepsake, That's one reason I asked about powernowd , it seemed to just slow me down and I am not even on a battery , so I figured why do I need CPU scaling software ?
[15:23] <keepsake> sebsebseb: True, although I'm taking a risk and installing alpha6, since I have a dual-boot I can recover with.
[15:23] <Anna_111> installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install but the problem persists. Please help. Before this install I installed the same version with / and swap partition and it worked. But now I have /, /home, and swap. I am using the LiveCd to install. The LiveCd checked out fi
[15:23] <oCean_> sebsebseb: keepsake BigMoopies Why not take discussion elsewhere, like #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:23] <jatt> how can I obtain the temperature of my laptop (processor)?
[15:23] <dimitree> sarmisak i hope it will notify me when a new alpha is available :) thank you very much for helping
[15:23] <jatt> Ubuntu 8.04.1
[15:23] <sarmisak> dimitree: it does, don't worry
[15:24] <sebsebseb> BigMoopies: yep  indeed XP is on the verge of dieing, even though  according to many people,  it's the best  version of Windows.   XP  was ok, but  I got a Windows expert sort of guy that uses WIndows Server 2003 as his desktop OS, and that runs  everything XP runs
[15:24] <BigMoopies> oCean_, OK for that.  But I still don't know if there is a ligit reason to keep the 'powernowd' ?
[15:24] <keepsake> dimitree: The release schedule is here in case you need it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule.
[15:24] <Picassotamus> jatt: Installing lm_sensors (your distro should have it) will let you monitor CPU and case temperatures, and a system monitor like GKrellM will display the temperatures on your desktop.
[15:24] <sarmisak> dimitree: but be careful about alphas, it usually screws up your system often
[15:24] <dimitree> keepsake: thanks ! Btw 9.04 runs so much faster i don't know why :)
[15:24] <sebsebseb> did I get kicked?
[15:24] <pallino> salve a tutti
[15:25] <pallino> !list
[15:25] <jatt> it seems there is no lm_sensors package in ubuntu... is there another way?
[15:25] <wanna_learn_more> hi?
[15:25] <BigMoopies> Also, would I be able to cut off keeping recent documents in Places ? I didn't like that in windows either.
[15:25] <o0Chris0o> !ot | sebsebseb:
[15:25] <keepsake> dimitree: I've seen some benchmarks, and apparently there are certain fixes in 9.04 or something...
[15:25] <crispy---> I am getting some graphics bugs (screen locks, kernel crashed and purple artifacts en masse) in ubuntu 8.10/KDE4.2 - nvidia 8400GS (started with 180.2~5 and occurs consistently with 180.35 driver). I got Kwin effects enabled. The bug first occurred after trying a d3d game running in vmware player on windows xp sp3. I exited the game and turned off the VM and BOOM! This was with the 180.2x driver. I then  rebooted and everything seemed to work nicely (didnt 
[15:25] <wanna_learn_more> how to install kernel-header at ubuntu intrepid?
[15:26] <crispy---> temperatures are normal fyi
[15:26] <Pici> keepsake, dimitree: Please take Jaunty discussion to #ubuntu+1, it is offtopic for here.
[15:26] <sebsebseb> o0Chris0o: well  yeah, but  when about 6 people want to ot...  anyway did I get kicked?
[15:26] <sarmisak> wanna_learn_more: apt-get install linux-header
[15:26] <wanna_learn_more> thanks
[15:26] <dimitree> Pici ok sorry
[15:26] <sebsebseb> Pici: did I get kicked?
[15:26] <Pici> sebsebseb: Yes
[15:26] <jmdc> Ljl: hey there, I'm back (you showed me that bug report and possible fix  for scrollkeeper)
[15:26] <Picassotamus> !repeat | sebsebseb
[15:26] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[15:26] <chronic> does mint use the same network manager as ubuntu?
[15:26] <Pici> chronic: Ask them, we do not support Mint..
[15:27] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: the uname -r part prints the version for your current kernel. You need that in the apt-get install command
[15:27] <chronic> Pici, why not?
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> owh
[15:27] <furenku> hello, where are the configuration files for the apps in Intrepid? I can't find hidden config files in ~/
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> so it will choose my kernel header
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> i have intrepid and i tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:27] <jmdc> ljl: the suggested fix doesn't work. It suggests installing a replacement package, but apt is broken so that doesn't work.
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> but why my kernel still 2.6.27-11?
[15:27] <wanna_learn_more> how to get more than it?
[15:27] <Buffalo_Bill> chronic, because this is the Ubuntu forum, not the mint?
[15:27] <salah> Hi. Is there any themes that makes Gnome look a little more different? I want to try something new
[15:28] <Buffalo_Bill> channel*
[15:28] <furenku> i'm trying to find my .asoundsrc file, but it's not in ~/
[15:28] <sebsebseb> salah: blubuntu :)
[15:28] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: a apt-get dist-upgrade doesn’t install the new version
[15:28] <afancy> hi, can i reinstall  Ubuntu on line?
[15:28] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: Indeed. The exact command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" will install the correct headers version
[15:28] <furenku> any ideas where it might be?
[15:28] <jmdc> ljl: or rather, my apt configuration
[15:28] <sebsebseb> salah: it's in the repo.  you can get a really nice gdm with it
[15:28] <wanna_learn_more> ocean:yeah,can i know ur kernel mr ocean?
[15:29]  * colouragga pounces LjL out of context
[15:29] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: have you changed your sources.list?
[15:29] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:not yet
[15:29] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: currently running 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic
[15:29] <keepsake> salah: Do a Google search for "ubuntu themes"
[15:29] <wanna_learn_more> ocean:me too
[15:29] <roue> hola
[15:29] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:2.6.27-11 is stable one?
[15:29] <oCean_> !themes | salah
[15:29] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: this is the intrepid kernel
[15:30] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:if i changed my source.list that means it will go to unstable one?
[15:30] <Anna_111> Hi, Is there any one who can help me with my issue? installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install but the problem persists. Please help. Before this install I installed the same version with / and swap partition and it worked. But now I have /, /home, and swap. I am us
[15:30] <chronic> why does the network manager not remember the static ip settings?
[15:30] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: it is the current (stable) version for intrepid indeed
[15:30] <salah> keepsake: I know about the usual gnome themes, but I want to try something new. For example another way to organize the menus and panels etc
[15:30] <wanna_learn_more> ocean:so if i change my source it will go to developed kernel or even unstable one?
[15:30] <furenku> where is the .asoundsrc normally located?
[15:30] <roue> I'm running HP's MIE version of Ubuntu 8.04. They've done some kernel patching to get all the hardware to work. I suspect the patched source is available in the apt repository, but I have no idea what it would be called. What's the standard for kernel source package names under Ubuntu? thanks.
[15:30] <furenku> the .asoundsrc file, sorry
[15:30] <keepsake> salah: That I don't know, although Googling might still be your best choice here, sorry.
[15:30] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: i think i misunderstood you, i thought you wanted to upgrade to jaunty
[15:30] <Picassotamus> furenku: They aren't normally needed, but you can set one up for your own profile in home
[15:30] <vigo> wanna_learn_more: http://www.kernel.org/ <<those are the stable kernels
[15:31] <wanna_learn_more> fliegenderfrosch:jaunty is 9.04 ???its still unstable ?
[15:31] <furenku> Picassotamus, thanks, I'll just create one, then
[15:31] <furenku> thanks
[15:31] <keepsake> wanna_learn_more: Yes, it's still an Alpha.
[15:31] <wanna_learn_more> okay2
[15:31] <Draiven> hi, somebody know how can I install glassfish on ubuntu-server without x-server?
[15:31] <fliegenderfrosch> wanna_learn_more: yes, I misread your question
[15:31] <wanna_learn_more> thanks ^^
[15:32] <wanna_learn_more> do u know how to set ath5k on intrepid?
[15:32] <Picassotamus> furenku: np
[15:32] <Pici> chronic: Because they make repository and configuration changes that we cannot be accountable for.
[15:32] <salah> Okay, is there any ways to for example make window titles more transparent?
[15:32] <wanna_learn_more> i already installed LBM but still dont know how to do it
[15:32] <torc> is it better to use checkinstall or stow to deal with compiled apps?
[15:33] <Anna_111> Hi, Is there any one who can help me with my issue? installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help.
[15:34] <_r00t-> hello. i have ubuntu 9.04 alpha6 installed under ext4 fs and my problem is that sometimes when i'm trying to upgrade my system via apt-get dist-upgrade i'm getting a kernel lock... is that a ext4 issue ?
[15:34] <pirla> salve
[15:34] <Pici> _r00t-: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[15:34] <pirla> ! list.
[15:34] <FoolsRun> hey, when you run polkit-auth --show-obtainable, what does it show?
[15:34] <_r00t-> Pici, ok sorry :)
[15:34] <pirla> !list
[15:35] <keepsake> Anna_111: Seems like a bug in Intrepid...
[15:35] <FoolsRun> When I run polkit-auth --show-obtainable it only shows "com.ubuntu.devicedriver.install"  and nothing else --is there a way to rebuild what's supposed to be there?
[15:36] <Anna_111> My first install went without a hitch. But I had to change partition size and include a /home partition and that's when the problem started. Twice done clean install but the problem persists. Please help. Before this install I installed the same version with / and swap partition and it worked. But now I have /, /home, and swap. I am using the LiveCd to install. The LiveCd checked out fine.
[15:36] <sipior> Anna_111: is your home directory full, by any chance?
[15:36] <Anna_111> sipior it could be.. I don't know
[15:36] <torc> ! checkinstall
[15:37] <Anna_111> I kept 10gb for home
[15:37] <Boscop> how can I install ubuntu from the live cd without using the graphical installer?
[15:37] <azhari> hii
[15:37] <torc> ! stow
[15:37] <torc> ! xstow
[15:37] <Pici> !msgthebot | torc
[15:37] <torc> Boscop, download the alternate CD
[15:38] <torc> Pici, <3
[15:38] <keepsake> !info xstow: torc:
[15:38] <keepsake> oops
[15:38] <keepsake> !info xstow
[15:39] <sipior> Anna_111: also, was this really an error on boot, or on login?
[15:39] <BigMoopies> Oh, one more thing. When I minimize a window. (Visual effects is off) , there is that little black border shrinking down and down to the (er? taskbar?) till it is minimized , is it possible to even turn that annoyance off ?
[15:39] <wanna_learn_more> can i install any kernel-devel for intrepid?
[15:40] <Anna_111> sipior, after login
[15:41] <L3dPlatedLinux> where would I put a sound theme in order to change the whole thing instead of one at a time
[15:41] <sipior> Anna_111: after boot, when you're looking at the login screen, try hitting "ctrl-alt-F1", to get to a console, log in and check the disk space with "df".  you can hit "alt-f7" to get back...
[15:41] <keepsake> BigMoopies: http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/127-remove-black-rectangle-when-you-minimize-windows.html
[15:42] <vigo> wanna_learn_more: Not really, you can only use the ones that the rest of the system supports, sort of.
[15:42] <Anna_111> sipior.. let me try again.. thanks
[15:42] <torc> anyone have a preference for stow versus xstow versus checkinstall?
[15:43] <wanna_learn_more> vigo:how to find it?
[15:43] <sLaeYa> hey is there a way to make a fresh ubuntu install (remove everything installed apart from the base) via ssh
[15:44] <saisai> hello
[15:44] <BigMoopies> keepsake, I can't find the requested "Metacity" options program , is there a GUI version of what they are talking about I can install ?
[15:44] <tobberoth> I put the minimal install CD on a bootable USB and booted from it... the commandline install worked perfectly but got stuck on 6%, installing the base system (retrieving tasksel-data)... what can I do?
[15:45] <BigMoopies> oh
[15:45] <sLaeYa> i have my server in a data centre and I need to start again
[15:45] <saisai> Hey I accidentally deleted the top panel on my Ubuntu OS
[15:45] <saisai> I re-added it but the panel is blank
[15:45] <sarmisak> tobberoth: you might have to mount it from another console
[15:46] <saisai> so I have to add each feature individually
[15:46] <saisai> does ne1 know how to return to the default top panel?
[15:46] <sarmisak> tobberoth: try hitting ALT+F2, and try: mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom/
[15:46] <Anna_111> sipior: It seems my /home is at 100% use
[15:46] <sipior> Anna_111: well, there's your problem :-)
[15:46] <saisai> send my a pm
[15:46] <saisai> thnks
[15:46] <sarmisak> tobberoth: should probably work but I would recommend a full install CD image when installing from USB
[15:46] <sarmisak> tobberoth: works right out of the box
[15:47] <vigo> saisal: Reboot and use the restore thing
[15:48] <tobberoth> sarmisak: failed: no such file or directory
[15:48] <sipior> sLaeYa: depending on what you need to fix, it might be simpler to use the "--purge" switch when removing packages, to ensure that old configuration files are destroyed. you can apt-get uninstall your way back to the original system.
[15:48] <tobberoth> sarmisak: I have ubuntu on CD already, I would just prefer a minimal install :/
[15:48] <sLaeYa> thanks sipior thats what I was afraid of
[15:48] <jatt> lm-sensors shows 60C temperature, is that too high? (dell laptop)
[15:48] <sLaeYa> I have a million and one packages installed
[15:48] <tobberoth> the minimal install CD worked perfectly in virtualbox so I didn't expect any problems
[15:48] <sarmisak> tobberoth: sorry mistyped, try mounting /dev/sdb1 as it might be your thumb drive
[15:49] <simion314> hi, i have 2 PCMCIA ethernet cards that are not visible in arch but work in ubuntu, any ideea? i have the default kernel in both distros
[15:49] <Anna_111> sipior: first time when I installed I did not have a /home. 20gb in / and 10gb in swap space. I was told that I should reduce the swap space and then create a /home dir. I gave 10gb to /home. How is that the first time when I did not have a /home I had no problem?
[15:49] <sarmisak> tobberoth: but this is a thumb drive, it has its complications ;) in virtualbox you install from an ISO image working as a CDROM
[15:50] <sipior> Anna_111: well, you had a home directory, but it was subsumed by the / partition. when you gave 10gb to /home, where did you take it from?
[15:50] <tobberoth> sarmisak: There is a dev/sdb1 but I still get the same error
[15:51] <Guest39087> Hi, i have a game there have tar.gz at the back of its name, am i wrong but aint it "sudo apt-get install "the game name.tar.gz" and then it should install it ?
[15:51] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: 10GB in home, hum the idea was to have most of the Linux space for home
[15:51] <Anna_111> sipior, since I repartitioned I can't tell where I took it from. Part of it came from / and part of it came from /swap
[15:51] <sarmisak> tobberoth: hmmms, good luck then. I would recommend writing the minimal install image to a CD.
[15:51] <Anna_111> not /swap but swap
[15:51] <sipior> Anna_111: but there was nothing in the partition originally, right? did you make sure that a new filesystem was created?
[15:52] <sebsebseb> sipior: as far as I know she got rid of all Linux partitions and started over,   keeping the Windows stuff untouched
[15:52] <Yoda> Hi, i have a game there have tar.gz at the back of its name, am i wrong but aint it "sudo apt-get install "the game name.tar.gz" and then it should install it ?
[15:53] <sipior> Anna_111: you might want to try a reinstall, verifying that the "format this partition" switch is set for /, /home and swap.
[15:53] <sebsebseb> sipior: so about 30GB to  use for  Ubuntu's stuff
[15:53] <Picassotamus> yoda: no sudo apt-get install is used to install from repos, a *.tar.gz needs to be 'unzipped'
[15:53] <Anna_111> sipior, I went through the same motions as I did the first time. I went to manual mode. Created ext3 for / and /home and then linux-swap
[15:53] <keepsake> Guest86868: No, you'd only do that with repository files.
[15:53] <tobberoth> sarmisak: Is it not because there is no /cdrom/ ?
[15:54] <keepsake> Guest86868: Check this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246092
[15:54] <Guest86868> keepsake:  Okay, but how do install it then, if you know :)
[15:54] <sipior> sebsebseb: right, i'm trying to figure out how the /home partition got filled up immediately after install :-)
[15:54] <Anna_111> sebsebseb is right, sipior. I have about 30gb available for ubuntu
[15:54] <Anna_111> sipior, will it matter if the /home us subsumed by the / ?
[15:55] <sipior> Anna_111: no, but i generally prefer a separate /home partition, to minimise the pain of upgrades...
[15:55] <keepsake> Guest86868: In other words, you do different things depending on what you find in the .tar.gz.
[15:55] <sebsebseb> sipior: yep I told her to do a seperate home :)
[15:55] <sebsebseb> sipior: and to do 1GB for swap instead of  10GB,  but she did like 2GB for swap
[15:55] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[15:56] <FuriousGeorge> ubuntu doesn't use utp by default does it?
[15:56] <Anna_111> sipior.. ok so pleas suggest what the /, /home , swap sizes should be. I have 30gb available and 1.5gb RAM
[15:56] <sipior> Anna_111: could i get you to pastebin your partition map? you can access it via "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda", changing the disk device as needed.
[15:56] <Guest86868> keepsake:  ohh okay i see .
[15:56] <Guest86868> keepsake:  But its just a little game (3mb)
[15:56] <blip> does anyone use convertx in wine?
[15:57] <sipior> Anna_111: generally i would go with around 10gb for root, 2gb for swap and the balance under /home. that's not fixed in stone, of course
[15:57] <sebsebseb> blip: what's that?
[15:57] <Guest86868> keepsake: you know how i maybe install that ?
[15:57] <sarmisak> tobberoth: might be, but usually debian installs that way
[15:57] <FiveAcres> I seem to be having the metacity "missing window decorations" problem on my jaunty install.  Do I need to do anything to report a bug, and is there any way I can fix it?
[15:57] <keepsake> Guest86868: When you do the "tar xvf <filename>", you get a folder.
[15:57] <keepsake> Or something of the kind
[15:57] <Guest86868> keepsake: yes i have extracted it :)
[15:57] <sebsebseb> sipior: yeah I guess,  Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and whatever other apps, will all fit in a 10GB /  with a seperate home
[15:57] <keepsake> Guest86868: What's in the folder?
[15:57] <vigo> FiveAcres: Join ubuntu+1
[15:58] <Dreamglider> is it posible to dual boot of a usb flash disk ?
[15:58] <FiveAcres> Thank you, vigo
[15:58] <Anna_111> sipior, sure I can paste in flickr. one question though should I use the livecd to login and then show it from Gparted? will that do?
[15:58] <vigo> !jaunty
[15:58] <sipior> Anna_111: try pastebin
[15:58] <noo> ciao
[15:58] <sipior> !paste | Anna_111
[15:58] <FuriousGeorge> i have a third party app that can't tell time, despite my system time being right.  i have an identical computer that tells time just fine.  i cant figure out what the difference could be
[15:58] <FuriousGeorge> how can i tell if im using utp?
[15:59] <Guest86868> keepsake: userlevels.txt, license.txt, n_cheats.txt, readme.txt editor manual.txt and editor_maual.doc
[15:59] <sipior> sebsebseb: yeah, and if more space is needed, symbolic links can be of some use. (and disks are cheap, anyway...)
[15:59] <Guest86868> keepsake: AND n_v14 (the game i think)
[15:59] <sebsebseb> sipior: I don't know about symbolic links
[15:59] <eL-GeWzZz> Hi all
[15:59] <sebsebseb> sipior: yeah and she can  save onto the Windows partitions
[15:59] <Anna_111> ok I will paste in pastebin, sipior. But will it work if I paste the screenshoot from Gparted after I login with live CD?
[15:59] <keepsake> Guest86868: Oh, are you trying to play a windows game? (n I presume?)
[15:59] <sipior> Anna_111: no, try that sfdisk command i mentioned earlier
[15:59] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: pastebin is just text, he only needs text
[16:00] <Anna_111> ok
[16:00] <eL-GeWzZz> is it possible to install iTunes on Ubuntu 8.10 ? i need for to sync the iPhone
[16:00] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: he just wants the output of the command
[16:00] <sebsebseb> eL-GeWzZz: no, but there's a good iTunes alternative out there
[16:00] <Guest86868> keepsake: yes exaxtly, but i went on a website and downloaded the version for linux
[16:00] <sebsebseb> eL-GeWzZz: I don't think you can run iTunes in Wine either, but you can in a Windows virtual machine that is inside Ubuntu
[16:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Guest86868, which game?
[16:01] <tobberoth> sarmisak: I was able to mount the USB at /cdrom now... but there's no change in the installer :( still trying to retrieve tasksel-data indefinitely
[16:01] <FuriousGeorge> the makesr of this third part app suggested i switch to utp instead of localtime, but i cant find any docs as to that
[16:01] <Guest86868> Paddy_EIRE:  N game.
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !iphone | eL-GeWzZz
[16:01] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[16:01] <vigo> FuriousGeorge: what app?
[16:01] <eL-GeWzZz>  Thank you guys, i look for a VM
[16:01] <FuriousGeorge> vigo: third party practice management software
[16:02] <lesshaste> I am trying to install flash support for hardy
[16:02] <lesshaste> but I get
[16:02] <lesshaste> Connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com|88.221.170.70|:80... connected.
[16:02] <lesshaste> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[16:02] <sarmisak> FuriousGeorge: it's not UTP, it's UTC. you should edit /etc/timezone and change it to UTC
[16:02] <FloodBot2> lesshaste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <tobberoth> sarmisak: Is there anyway to restart the installer without rebooting?
[16:02] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: oh right, that's what i meant
[16:02] <Anna_111> sipior: This looks like a partition rather than the entire disk. Using fdisk on it is probably meaningless. use the force option if you want it.. this is what I got
[16:02] <sarmisak> tobberoth: I don't think so, sorry.
[16:02] <keepsake> Guest86868: Try downloading the Windows version and run it with Wine.
[16:02] <Guest86868> keepsake: okay i try that :)
[16:03] <vigo> FuriousGeorge: Right click the clock, and adjust it GUI style or go command line. It might interfere with updates and stuff, so re-set as needed.
[16:03] <xinel> anybody know where i can find a blowfish 512 bit text encryptor?
[16:03] <sipior> Anna_111: could you type the precise command line you used? just specify the device name ("/dev/sda"), not /dev/sda2 or anything like that...
[16:03] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, hey man adobe has since released adobe-flashplugin for linux this works much better in my opinion
[16:03] <wanna_learn_more> !jaunty
[16:03] <FuriousGeorge> vigo: thanks
[16:03] <wanna_learn_more> vigo:how to find it?sorry disconnected from server ><
[16:03] <lesshaste> Paddy_EIRE, great.. how do I get that for hardy?
[16:03] <FuriousGeorge> vigo: are you named after a city?
[16:03] <Anna_111> sipior: /dev/sda5
[16:03] <Anna_111> that is my / sipior
[16:03] <fede> irc.reserstyle.net
[16:04] <LjL> !info bcrypt | xinel
[16:04] <sipior> Anna_111: right, so just try: "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda"
[16:04] <wanna_learn_more> !info gcc
[16:04] <vigo> FuriousGeorge: Not really, sort of, yes, here is the doc on that: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[16:04] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, go to 'System > Administratin > Software Sources' then under the 3rd party tab enable/tick the partners repository
[16:04] <xinel> LjL: i thought bcrypt only did files, i want to just encode text
[16:05] <LjL> xinel: err... can a file not be text?
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, once you do that update your package list and do "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[16:05] <keepsake> Guest86868: Using Wine to load the Windows version works for me.
[16:05] <xinel> LjL: want to use it for irc purposes
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !wfm | keepsake
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[16:05] <Guest86868> keepsake: okay im downloading it now, so i cant wait to see if it works, its a really fun game :D
[16:05] <brblack_> hello peoples!!
[16:06] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: =P Haha, although, the Linux version won't execute for some reason.
[16:06] <lesshaste> Paddy_EIRE, thanks!
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, you made it executable right?
[16:06] <Anna_111> sipior: ok that worked.. but how can I copy and paste from there? It's on a desktop monitor and I am on the console screen
[16:06] <die> qualcuno mi fa fare il boot per overnet
[16:06] <die> ?
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> lesshaste, no probs :)
[16:06] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: Yup.
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[16:06] <lesshaste> Paddy_EIRE, :)
[16:07] <lesshaste> is there an easy way to switch between flash plugins? I mean if I want to try the swfdec one and the gnash one for example
[16:07] <brblack_> if exists any C programmers say true=true!!
[16:07] <sipior> Anna_111: try installing the "pastebinit" package
[16:07] <regeya> !offtopic > brblack_
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> brblack_, try making sense :)
[16:07] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: yeah or go to http://www.pastebin.com or http://www.pastebin.ca  and upload  the output of the command it's easy
[16:08] <sipior> Anna_111: and then try "sudo sfdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[16:08] <LjL> die: vai su #ubuntu-it per parlare in italiano, e comunque né questo né quello sono il canale adatto
[16:08] <brblack_> ok
[16:08] <Guest86868> keepsake: okay i got the windows version now, but it lags a bit :/
[16:08] <Paddy_EIRE> hey LjL
[16:08] <brblack_> sorry
[16:08] <Anna_111> sipior, can it be installed with sudo apt-get install pastebinit ?
[16:08] <sipior> Anna_111: yep!
[16:08] <wanna_learn_more> !license
[16:09] <keepsake> Guest86868: It does, but I think it's still playable =\
[16:09] <zxd__> Does anyone know where did the theme debian-moreblue go from gdm-themes ?
[16:09] <wanna_learn_more> !windows
[16:09] <wanna_learn_more> !linux
[16:09] <LjL> xinel: "mcrypt" should do that
[16:09] <Anna_111> hey I am learning stuff from sipior :) thanks
[16:09] <LjL> xinel: with the -F option, it can take input from stdin
[16:09] <regeya> !botabuse
[16:09] <xinel> ooo interesting
[16:09] <Guest86868> keepsake: yes indeed, but is it like this with every windows products if you use Wine loader ?
[16:09] <xinel> LjL:  thankyou
[16:09] <sipior> wanna_learn_more: try using redirection, so as not to consume so much channel space: "!foo > wanna_learn_more"
[16:10] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: who did you say that to?   using tab and selecting someones name is  good
[16:10] <LjL> try to use PM rather
[16:10] <sebsebseb> !tab |  Anna_111
[16:10] <keepsake> Guest86868: No, most Windows programs don't have frameskip problems.
[16:10] <Anna_111> sipior: http://pastebin.com/f6dd17cb2
[16:10] <Guest86868> keepsake: ohh. glad to hear that !
[16:11] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: you shoudn't really use Windows programs on Desktop Linux :)    only if you can't find a good enough native version
[16:11] <keepsake> !askthebot | sipior, wanna_learn_more
[16:11] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: both my time zones are set the same, but one computer is still of by an hour
[16:11] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: native programs :)  then  Wine and stuff like that,  and then a virtual machine if no good in Wine etc.  then   real Windows :D
[16:12] <blip> cant find a nix equivalent to convertx to dvd :(
[16:12] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f6dd17cb2
[16:12] <kitche> FuriousGeorge: bad cmos battery maybe?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: well that's what I would do :)
[16:12] <keepsake> sebsebseb: We had this discussion last night =P
[16:12] <sarmisak> FuriousGeorge: might be DST?
[16:12] <sebsebseb> keepsake: with someone else?
[16:12] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  year alright i can see what you mean... :)
[16:12] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Nah, I remember talking to you about the whole VMing issue.
[16:13] <sipior> Anna_111: could i get you to paste the output of "df", then?
[16:13] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: im sure it has something to do with dst, but the server who's 3rd party app is off by one hour is set to change for dst
[16:13] <FortheHorde> Hi my new install isn't recognizing when I plug in headphones. Anyone run into that problem?
[16:13] <Anna_111> sure sipior. one sec
[16:13] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: i get the impression its a bug in their program
[16:14] <sarmisak> FuriousGeorge: what's this 3rd party app? is it a forum system or something like that?
[16:14] <Akkernight> Is there an easy way to uninstall GCC and MingW ?
[16:14] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f2a14199b
[16:14] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: by the way Linux was never meant to be a Windows alternative originalley, it's meant to be a Unix alternative.  it's just  since Windows sadly has most Desktop market share, certain versions of  Desktop Linux are  really  meant to be a Windows alternative,  Ubuntu, Mandriva,  Xandros, and PCLinuxOS to name a few
[16:14] <krlos> ryanakca, hi
[16:14] <FuriousGeorge> sarmisak: its a practice management suite for a optometrist, and the patient scheduler is off by one hour at one location, but not the other, despite both locations running off the same remote server
[16:15] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  is that right, okaay, didnt know that.
[16:15] <FuriousGeorge> and both clients (ltsp in this case) having identical
[16:15] <Anna_111> sipior that did not come out ok. I typed sudo df /dev/sda/ pastebinit
[16:15] <FuriousGeorge> *identical time
[16:15] <sarmisak> hmm, i see. strange behaviour actually, the should be the same if they are both working on LTSP.
[16:15] <corey> something is using alot of memory and processing power. How do I find out what it is?
[16:15] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: yep  and it really sucks how programs like Wine  are there to make programs work in Desktop Linux, that were made for the crappy OS.   I  am not saying Wine is bad, I am saying  it sucks how a program like Wine had to be made in the first place
[16:16] <mobodo> is there an image somewhere of a dvd that will let me ghost and restore hard drives based on ubuntu?
[16:16] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f1fbd2a4d
[16:16] <mobodo> or can I just use the default desktop dvd?
[16:16] <sebsebseb> !unix |  Guest86868
[16:16] <lasivian_> Someone gave me a usb bluetooth dongle, but when I plug it in gnome's bluetooth manager does not see it, and lsusb shows a blank for the name
[16:16] <sebsebseb> !linux |  Guest86868
[16:16] <corey> something is using alot of memory and processing power. How do I find out what it is?
[16:16] <Akkernight> Is there any easy way to uninstall GCC and MingW ?
[16:17] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  okay thanks for share !
[16:17] <kitche> Akkernight: just remove the gcc package and mingW package
[16:17] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: also this kind of software is about software freedoms,  not  about being a free  as in price alternative to Windows.  do you know what I mean?
[16:17] <Akkernight> kitche, is there no terminal command?
[16:18] <kitche> Akkernight: yes apt-get remove <gcc package> hen do the same for mingW
[16:18] <Guest86868> sebsebseb:  yes i can see what you mean :)
[16:18] <sipior> Anna_111: these are ext3 filesystems, i imagine?
[16:18] <FortheHorde> I'm having trouble getting my headphone jack to work with Ubuntu. Every time I plug in my headphones the sound still comes through my desktop speakers. Any idea what might be causing it?
[16:18] <Anna_111> sipior, yes ext3 journalistic or whatever they are called
[16:19] <sipior> Anna_111: could you try "sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda6"
[16:19] <Anna_111> sipior: what does that command do?
[16:19] <sebsebseb> Guest86868: http://www.gnu.org philosphey section and then  about free software section :)   and then to confuse things a bit, we got open source software as well http://www.opensource.org    Free Software is about the moral advantages that are gained from the code being open,   open source is  a development model.   Free software as in libre software,  open source as in open code
[16:19] <bn2knowitall> does anybody else have problems with loosing the bars that show the wirless signal every now and the?
[16:21] <bn2knowitall> sometimes I have to type nm-applet --sm-disable in the terminal
[16:22] <lasivian_> Someone gave me a usb bluetooth dongle, but when I plug it in gnome's bluetooth manager does not see it, and lsusb shows a blank for the name. Dmesg says "generic bluetooth usb driver" but I can;t access the device, any ideas? thanks
[16:22] <sipior> Anna_111: it will set the reserved block count of your partition to 0%
[16:22] <L3dPlatedLinux> man I dont like when you install something and then cant figure out how to remove it?
[16:22] <ruediger> hi
[16:22] <Anna_111> sipior: I did that and got the message Setting reserved block percentage to 0% [0 blocks]
[16:22] <bn2knowitall> can anybody see what I type?
[16:22] <L3dPlatedLinux> yes
[16:22] <bn2knowitall> ok lol
[16:22] <sipior> Anna_111: it is customary for filesystems to reserve a certain percentage for admin use, in the event that the disk should fill up, ensuring that root, at least, can always log on and fix the problem.
[16:23] <sipior> Anna_111: now, could you pastebin the result of "df" again?
[16:23] <khakane> could someone help me get sound working in VLC?
[16:23] <noren> hi all
[16:23] <sebsebseb> !sound
[16:23] <Anna_111> of course sipior
[16:23] <L3dPlatedLinux> Any one know how to remove epidermis?
[16:23] <khakane> i dont have a volume ccontrol.. running kubuntu
[16:23] <noren> is there an application to see the distribution of the bandwidth by all the application on my system
[16:23] <Pici> L3dPlatedLinux: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:23] <Anna_111> sipior, please take a look http://pastebin.com/f358c10cb
[16:23] <bn2knowitall> i have problems sometimes the wireless on my laptop.  sometimes the signal strength bars dissapear and I have to type nm-applet --sm-disable into the terminal
[16:24] <bn2knowitall> is there a reason for that?
[16:24] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[16:24] <sebsebseb> bn2knowitall: wireless can be crappy in Desktop Linux, because of  hardware manufactures that don't suppourt it properly  for Linux or at all
[16:24] <sipior> Anna_111: all right, the usage is below 100%. can you log in now?
[16:24] <noren> khakane: get a volume controler applet
[16:24] <Anna_111> sipior - alt-f7?
[16:24] <sipior> Anna_111: yep
[16:25] <noren> !bandwith
[16:25] <Anna_111> ok sipior
[16:25] <khakane> options arent in the same place for KDE4 asa they are gnome
[16:25] <khakane> sorry
[16:25] <bbkiller> hello ubuntu users! I can connect wireless in the text mode??
[16:25] <khakane> doesnt matter if i have the applet or not (i do)
[16:25] <corey> Something is using a bunch of RAM and I can figure out what it is! Everything except xchat is closed and I am using 920MB and an average of 52% processor usage!
[16:25] <sebsebseb> corey: Firefox maybe?
[16:25] <Anna_111> sipior: you are a magician
[16:25] <sebsebseb> corey: Firefox can do high CPU usage
[16:25] <LjL> L3dPlatedLinux: well, most people try to restrain themselves to only use the ~20000 packages that are available in the official Ubuntu repositories (including ones to change themes), as they know that they're by definition easy to install and remove
[16:25] <bn2knowitall> i was wondering why it would disappear sometimes
[16:25] <sebsebseb> corey: Ubuntu's unoffical version of it
[16:26] <Anna_111> sipior: I can log back in :)
[16:26] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ok :)
[16:26] <sipior> Anna_111: good, glad it's working. be sure to remove whatever you don't need there, you don't have a lot of space left :-)
[16:26] <sebsebseb> sipior: she does not have a lot of space where?
[16:26] <Anna_111> sipior: I have no idea what I need and don't need in the /home dir.
[16:27] <sipior> sebsebseb: in /home. only half a gig or so.
[16:27] <L3dPlatedLinux> yes will do that from now on
[16:27] <saisai> I have a Q about uninstalling software. particularly netbeans on Ubuntu.
[16:27] <L3dPlatedLinux>  after I remove this darn thing
[16:27] <sebsebseb> sipior: right, but home should be pretty much blank, only config files
[16:27] <saisai> can ne 1 help?
[16:27] <perscitus> How do you turn off open of Rhythm Box when music player is inserted in hardy?
[16:27] <khakane> so i guess no help eh
[16:27] <Anna_111>  sipior: my /home is almost full and I just started. Is it dynamically possible to free space from / and give it to /home?
[16:27] <sebsebseb> Anna_111:   in the termianl be in home which you will be by default and you can
[16:27] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ls
[16:27] <danes_> how can I change to a directory on terminal mounted with smb://
[16:28] <noren> nothing to analyze my bandwith useage.. Help please
[16:28] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: list the files in home.  and pastebin that
[16:28] <saisai> this chatroom is too crowded
[16:28] <Anna_111> sebsebseb, I know ls. I meant I have no idea which programs I need and which I don't.
[16:28] <sebsebseb> saisai: yeah well that's good
[16:28] <noren> saisai: aask the question
[16:28] <perscitus> How do you turn off open of Rhythm Box when music player is inserted in hardy?
[16:28] <sebsebseb> saisai: ,but you have to wait for someone that knows your issue
[16:28] <corey> sebsebseb: I have no programs running except for xchat
[16:28] <bbkiller> how do connect web wireless on text mode? Help-me
[16:28] <LjL> saisai: it is a bit, but it helps if you just ask your question with all needed detail straight away
[16:28] <saisai> ok my question is I installed netbeans using the terminal
[16:28] <saisai> now I want to uninstall it
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: Rythombox is not that good, I used to use it though untill Banshee became good.
[16:29] <sipior> Anna_111: could you pastebin one more thing for me? "sudo du -s /home" should show where the disk space is going...
[16:29] <oCean_> L3dPlatedLinux: so you used dkpg -i to install it, right
[16:29] <ruediger> is there an (easy) way to install w32codecs (and mplayer32) on ubuntu 8.10/amd64? (i need a codec that's missing in w64codecs!)
[16:29] <saisai> I am trying to do it under add/remove but it can;t find it
[16:29] <khakane> sigh
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: however in Hardy you get a crappy version of Banshee, unless you get the  ppa for it so you get Ibex version
[16:29] <perscitus> sebsebseb->  well duh. i want to take it off.
[16:29] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, saying you installed it using the terminal does not narrow down _How_ you installed it
[16:29] <khakane> sound help in vlc/jaunty
[16:29] <noren> saisai: sudo apt-get remove netbeans
[16:29] <Pici> khakane: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[16:29] <perscitus> sebsebseb->  ibex is broken and buggy.
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: it's part of ubuntu-desktop, but yeah you can uninstall rhtyombox
[16:29] <danes_> how can I change directory on terminal for a network place? it is mounted on smb://<mynetwork>
[16:29] <michael__> how can i get video out to work on my ati radeon
[16:29] <sebsebseb> perscitus: nonsense
[16:30] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: let's find out what is in home
[16:30] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: ls  will list stuff, but there's also  tree.  sudo apt-get install tree
[16:30] <saisai> ok I will try the command
[16:31] <LjL> danes_: it can't be "mounted" to smb://anything, because that's not a mountpoint
[16:31] <LjL> !samba > danes_    (danes_, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> when i tried apt-get
[16:31] <sipior> sebsebseb: i've asked her to paste the result of du -s /home
[16:31] <bbkiller> bye! Thanks
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> it turned like this
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> http://pastebin.com/m4373ca98
[16:31] <lasivian_> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[16:31] <saisai> Also How do I get my newly installed programs to display in the Menu Bar???
[16:31] <sebsebseb> sipior: oh what does that command do?
[16:31] <bn2knowitall> anybody experts in python here?
[16:31] <wanna_learn_more> looks like my filesystem has been error
[16:31] <cathy> i just got linux unbuntu but i don't know how to use itunes on it? help plz =)
[16:31] <sipior> sebsebseb: try it out :-)
[16:31] <perscitus> sebsebseb->  nope. Buggy and broken. doesnt run properly on my system
[16:32] <danes_> LjL, is there any way I can access the files of my network hdd using terminal?
[16:32] <oCean_> !itunes | cathy
[16:32] <sebsebseb> sipior: heh it wants me to sudo
[16:32] <wanna_learn_more> !efsck
[16:32] <wanna_learn_more> !fsck
[16:32] <LjL> danes_: yes, but you have to actually mount it. the link i gave you should have instructions for that. anyway short version, "sudo mount //servername/sharename /mnt/whatever -o username=blah"
[16:32] <Anna_111> sipior: I am in /home now and I am seeing only two dirs. both are colored in blue and there is nothing in them
[16:33] <cathy> so can i use a program on add or remove?
[16:33] <sipior> Anna_111: actually, could you try without the -s? just pastebin "sudo du /home"?
[16:33] <danes_> LjL. thanks
[16:33] <sebsebseb> cathy: what do you want to install?
[16:33] <keepsake> !askthebot | wanna_learn_more
[16:33] <sebsebseb> cathy: you want to know how to instlal and remove programs in Ubuntu?
[16:33] <oCean_> wanna_learn_more: apt-get needs arguments. like install or update. But then you have to use "sudo" -like "sudo apt-get install name_of_package"
[16:33] <cathy> itunes like program for my ipod
[16:33] <sebsebseb> cathy: oh right
[16:34] <sebsebseb> cathy: itunes itself you can't do in Ubuntu, but there is an alternative
[16:34] <sebsebseb> cathy: well you can do itunes if you run WIndows inside Ubuntu in a virtual machine
[16:34] <Ronald_> my ubuntu install doesn't have an admin group... How do I add that?
[16:34] <saisai> how do I get programs to display on menu bar? When I installed netbeans it created a desktop icon but I want it to be added on my menu bar?
[16:34] <LjL> saisai: ... it created a desktop icon?
[16:35] <sebsebseb> cathy:  http://www.osalt.com mentions an Itunes alternative, also this is a useful similar kind of site http://www.linuxeq.com
[16:35] <saisai> yes
[16:35] <LjL> saisai: just how did you install it?
[16:35] <cathy> does only itunes work with ipods?
[16:35] <keepsake> saisai: Right-click on the menu and choose "Edit Menus", then add a shortcut.
[16:35] <cathy> ty
[16:35] <sebsebseb> cathy: no Banshee can sync  an ipod
[16:35] <lasivian> exit
[16:35] <wanna_learn_more> can i install any kernel-devel for intrepid?
[16:35] <Anna_111> sipior: I think I know what happened. These are mostly my mp3 files from the C drive of win XP looks like Ubuntu install imported them instead of pointing to them. Else I have no other explanation
[16:35] <LjL> !elaborate | wanna_learn_more
[16:35] <sebsebseb> cathy: by the way you get most software from Ubuntu's  servers :)   ,but then for stuff you want that isn't in there, you get from a trusted source
[16:36] <noren> saisai: did u use wine to install
[16:36] <sebsebseb> cathy: Ubuntu is not like WIndows where you got to go on websites to get programs, or   put in a CD or what have you
[16:36] <saisai> no not wine
[16:36] <keepsake> saisai: Do the Edit Menus thing.
[16:36] <saisai> I downloaded the binary files
[16:36] <sipior> Anna_111: yeah, could be. the installer being "annoyingly helpful", i'm afraid :-)
[16:36] <cathy> yep
[16:36] <saisai> and used the ./ command
[16:36] <LjL> saisai: terrible idea. netbeans is in the repositories, so why did you do that?
[16:36] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[16:36] <saisai> i didnt know...
[16:36] <LjL> !packages | saisai
[16:37] <saisai> but the repository didnt have the latest netbeans
[16:37] <arvind_khadri> !latest | saisai
[16:37] <Gnea> !ipod | cathy
[16:37] <beli> is installing from source an awkward way? *G*
[16:37] <LjL> beli: yes
[16:37] <keepsake> saisai: Installing from source is absolutely fine.
[16:37] <sebsebseb> !RockBox
[16:37] <cathy> ty =)
[16:37] <jharkn> ./ isn't a command it's a location ("." means the current directory)
[16:37] <LjL> keepsake: not if the package is in the repositories, no
[16:37] <Anna_111> sipior, I guess that's what happened. Now, if I delete these will they be deleted from my C disk because I can see the C drive files in Ubuntu?
[16:37] <beli> LjL: hmm, and what to do if you need special compile time options?
[16:37] <keepsake> LjL: Installing from source is perfectly normal, and is used when you need a newer version or a custom build.
[16:38] <LjL> beli: if you *really* need such things, then you probably know what you're doing, in which case you'll use your best judgment
[16:38] <sebsebseb> cathy: I would recommend Banshee as your music player in Ubuntu.
[16:38] <sebsebseb> cathy: it can also do video and theres VLC as well for that
[16:38] <sebsebseb> cathy: your on 8.10?
[16:38] <gRunt> Hi all is there any way in linux to find out what my motherboard and sata is? I want to install my windowsXP disc on dual boot but I keep getting errors as I don't have chipset and sata drivers so I need to be able to integrate some....any ideas where to look?
[16:38] <LjL> keepsake: then if the stuff you installed is actually a dependency of something else, at best you may have version conflicts, and at worst (i.e. if you were silly enough to install in /usr) you'll have APT stop working.
[16:38] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Ideally though, mplayer or a GUI version of it.
[16:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: why?
[16:39] <beli> LjL: cant be for real....ubuntu is linux and you should be able to compile userspace programs NOT in the repository without beeing called "doing awkward things" ;)
[16:39] <keepsake> sebsebseb: More compatibility all-around.
[16:39] <saisai> Anyways I tried the "right click " edit menus but I dont know how to find the netbeans program. I want to add it to my menu bar.
[16:39] <Anna_111> sipior: what's the ls command that spans all file systems and dirs to look for metacharacters like *.mp3
[16:39] <sipior> Anna_111: as long as you're sure that you're deleting from the correct partition, you should be fine. might be worth making sure you have a backup if it's a big issue
[16:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yeah maybe, but Banshee is still  :)
[16:39] <keepsake> saisai: Right-click the icon on your desktop
[16:39] <keepsake> saisai: Find properties, then look at the COMMAND
[16:39] <LjL> beli: if it's not in the repositories, then i find compiling it quite acceptable
[16:39] <gRunt> Hi all is there any way in linux to find out what my motherboard and sata is? I want to install my windowsXP disc on dual boot but I keep getting errors as I don't have chipset and sata drivers so I need to be able to integrate some....any ideas where to look?
[16:40] <keepsake> saisai: Copy/paste that as the command of a "New Item" in Edit Menus.
[16:40] <sipior> Anna_111: "find . -name *.mp3 -print"
[16:40] <cathy> ubottu: i am thinking of getting the new ipod shuffle will this work with it? "Ubuntu works very well with iPods, except the iPod Touch, iPhone, and any other future generation" =)
[16:40] <beli> LjL: thanks :) and building a package for it....better than doing make install ;)
[16:40] <saisai> ok makes sense now :)
[16:40] <saisai> cool thanks guys
[16:40] <LjL> beli: that is definitely the best thing to do.
[16:40] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, joy?
[16:40] <sipior> Anna_111: or "find / -name *.mp3 -print", but that will likely take a while
[16:41] <cathy> lol i was trying to takl to a bot
[16:41] <Paddy_EIRE> LjL whatever happened to the "how to install anything in ubuntu" factoid?
[16:41] <LjL> !software > Paddy_EIRE    (Paddy_EIRE, see the private message from ubottu) this one...?
[16:41] <sebsebseb> cathy: Windows virtual machine can probably work nicely with your ipod as well
[16:41] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[16:42] <Paddy_EIRE> LjL cheers mate
[16:42] <sebsebseb> cathy: ,but  that should be a last resort,
[16:42] <sebsebseb> cathy: before using a psyical Windows install
[16:42] <sebsebseb> cathy: yes you can have WIndows inside Ubuntu
[16:42] <Gnea> cathy: probably depends what generation it is
[16:43] <wanna_learn_more> how to configure my kernel?i must install kernels-headers first?
[16:43] <cathy> anyone have the new ipod shuffle 3rd gen?
[16:43] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: configure it why?
[16:43]  * Gnea does not own an ipod, but an lg that supports ogg vorbis
[16:44] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: the kernel is pretty much set up by default
[16:44] <Anna_111> sipor: thanks
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Gnea:  :D  cool  altough not to sure what Lg is, but anyway  ogg vorbis :)
[16:44] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:enable ath5k on wireless section
[16:44] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: oh athros drivers
[16:44] <sebsebseb> !madwifi
[16:44] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:not madwifi
[16:44] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:but ath5k
[16:44] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: ok well I don't know
[16:45] <beli> LjL: are ubuntu packages done with deb-tools?
[16:45] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, oh the shuffle.. no sorry not here
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:how bout ncurses packages/
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> !ncurses-devel
[16:45] <beli> LjL: or is there a different methode?
[16:45] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: don't know about that either
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> !ncurses
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> !ncurse
[16:45] <beli> !curses
[16:45] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, I will have a look.. what is the model number on the back of it.. it should say something like a1236
[16:45] <wanna_learn_more> anyone know it?
[16:45] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: what's the problem ?
[16:46] <beli> wanna_learn_more: what do you want to know about ncurses?
[16:46] <LjL> !packaging > beli    (beli, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:46] <beli> LjL: thanks
[16:46] <wanna_learn_more> http://pastebin.com/m66306c65
[16:46] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:http://pastebin.com/m66306c65
[16:46] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:i want it for configure kernel-header
[16:46] <beli> LjL: btw. i got privmsg twice from the bot
[16:46] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: what ar eyou trying to do ?
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: and why
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:when i type make menuconfig it asked me to install ncurses
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: yes, why are you trying to build a kernel
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:to enable ath5k
[16:47] <riwa> I'm trying to configure Nvidia to use twinview. It autoconfigured pretty good except that only a part of the window is viewed. How can I make the whole thing visible?
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: you don't need to recompile I kernel for that
[16:47] <cathy> Paddy_EIRE i don't have one now but thinking off getting one but i wana no if it works with unbuntu
[16:47] <LjL> beli: yes, but it should have been two different messages - the second one being about a much more quick-and-dirty method to make packages
[16:47] <beli> LjL: ah, i use checkinstall on slackware...
[16:47] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: I believe thats just a module
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:so how??
[16:47] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:now i am using server without any gui
[16:48] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, oh.. I use the previous nano to the new one
[16:48] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: ok - so it's just a kernel module isn't it ?
[16:48] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, I would need to know the model number
[16:48] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[16:48] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:take a look
[16:49] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:i believe networking and wireless exist at kernel configuration
[16:49] <stabbyjoe12> hi guys does anyone know a decent tutorial to install window live messenger , dont sya use pidgin etc
[16:49] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: lol Windohs Live Messenger
[16:49] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: heh ok uhmmmm
[16:49] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: yes, thats right they do, but you don't need to recompile a kernel to change / use a module
[16:49] <tim_> slayer98
[16:49] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, windows live messenger is for windows... simple as that
[16:50] <cathy> Paddy_EIRE: where do i get that from?
[16:50] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: that's one of the worst programs ever :)   ,but it really does help to lock stupid people into Windows.  Linux has  some good alternatives though
[16:50] <jharkn> stabbyjoe12: try 'emesene'
[16:50] <stabbyjoe12> paddy_EIRE_  not somple as that
[16:50] <beli> LjL: i just forgot that checkinstall could be configured to pack .deb files
[16:50] <Paddy_EIRE> !messenger | stabbyjoe12
[16:50] <sebsebseb> !msn
[16:50] <stabbyjoe12> ive tryed them alll i dont like them
[16:50] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:so any suggestion?
[16:50] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: one moment I'll grab you some info
[16:50] <beli> LjL: now i just need to watch out the ubuntu common fs structure
[16:50] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, then you are out of luck
[16:50] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: yes there is Pidgin and Kopete multi protocall network,  but you will find they lack your stupid MSN features
[16:50] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:okay,lets do it :)
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> not really cuase many people have dont it
[16:51] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: however  there is also AMSN and Kmess
[16:51] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, WLM is a terrible IM client anyway.. I use pidgin when I am on windows
[16:51] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12:   AMSN has web cam suppourt etc etc.   Kmess is nice as well
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> i dont like them
[16:51] <eseven73> bah instant messangers, who needs them, IRC FTW! :)
[16:51] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, empathy is also great
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> they all annoy me i like wlm i find its useful
[16:51] <keepsake> stabbyjoe12: Have you tried amsn?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: how old are you?
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> yep
[16:51] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, well you are out of luck
[16:51] <stabbyjoe12> ive tryed them alllll trust me
[16:51] <Paddy_EIRE> and WLM is just an advertisement app
[16:51] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: how old are you?
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> 22 y?
[16:52] <jharkn> even emesene? ;)
[16:52] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: oh  thought you would be a bit younger
[16:52] <corey> can I run fileserver software on my desktop computer?
[16:52] <sky_> hi i create a ext3 partition but i cant copy there my data
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> yeah emesene has a problem with the .live accounts doesnt let you log in
[16:52] <keepsake> jharkn: emesene is good, but lacks a lot of features
[16:52] <Gnea> sebsebseb: LG is a company that makes hardware and other peripherals, such as mp3 players, cd/dvd drives, dvd players, TVs, etc :)
[16:52] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: I mean it's stupid people that are locked into  WIndows LIve Messenger mainly.  however if you really must have it in Ubuntu, there is a way
[16:52] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, try empathy
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> i no there is
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> and ive tryed it
[16:52] <stabbyjoe12> im half way there
[16:52] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: however the only way your going to get WIndows LIve Messenger is by running Windows inside Ubuntu
[16:52] <sipior> sky_: have you mounted the partition somewhere?
[16:53] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: I belive Wine and all that will fail with it
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> no
[16:53] <jharkn> keepsake: yeah true
[16:53] <sky_> yes
[16:53] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, no what?
[16:53] <beli> sky_: what does "can't copy" mean? any error?
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> there is a few ways of doing it
[16:53] <sky_> sipior: mounted
[16:53] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: no there is not
[16:53] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, no there is not
[16:53] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:i will sleeep now already midnite
[16:53] <cathy> will wine work with itunes?
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> il be abck at some point to prove that
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Paddy_EIRE: heh we both say same thing at the same time :)
[16:53] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:can u pm me for solution???very2 please
[16:53] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: I'll put something up on the forum
[16:53] <Paddy_EIRE> sebsebseb, :)
[16:53] <stabbyjoe12> no wine doesnt eork with itunes i tunes has a serious kernal conflict
[16:53] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: live messenger to then itunes?  there are itunes alternatives
[16:54] <yeason> I recently installed 9.04 and I cannot connect to my network. It appears to be working but when it sends a DHCP request it just times out without getting a response. I also do not seem to be able to set static ips. Any suggestions?
[16:54] <sky_> bell: well is in my native language but i try to translate it : you cant copy it because you dont have permissions to create it here
[16:54] <ikonia> !jaunty > yeason
[16:54] <sipior> sky_: you'll want to make a directory inside that newly-mounted volume, and make yourself the owner of it.
[16:54] <stabbyjoe12> sebsebseb i no and the itunes alternatives are fine
[16:54] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12:  if you want certain Windows shit such as WIndows Live Messenger and Itunes,  your going to  need to run them in Windows.  or if it's an Itunes you could run it on a Mac of course
[16:54] <sky_> sipior: yes :)
[16:54] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please control your language
[16:54] <beli> sky_: so you mounted it for wrong uid/gid
[16:54] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:just at pm
[16:54] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: ok
[16:54] <sebsebseb> ikonia: uh yeah
[16:54] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:or give me links to the forum pliz ^^
[16:54] <beli> sky_: check man mount  and section ext3
[16:54] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please.
[16:54] <stabbyjoe12> i dont want to run itunes lol
[16:54] <yeason> ubottu: cool, thnx =)
[16:54] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok
[16:54] <beli> sky_: and read about howto provide mount options for uid and gid
[16:54] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:but still at pm because the chat is very2 long,thanks all GBU ^^
[16:55] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: if you must have WIndows Live Messenger,  then you will need Windows for it, it's as simple as that
[16:55] <sipior> sky_: yes, meaning you've already done so?
[16:55] <sky_> sssssss
[16:55] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: ok
[16:55] <sky_> yea
[16:55] <stabbyjoe12> sebsebseb no its not that kind of attitude will never progress an os
[16:55] <sky_> i already restarted PC
[16:55] <stabbyjoe12> think out of the box:)
[16:55] <beli> sky_: you dont need to restart...read what i told you before
[16:55] <sky_> oh yea and before there was Windows Vista
[16:55] <Paddy_EIRE> stabbyjoe12, I can with absolute certainty tell you that WLM will not run on linux at all... unless you use a vm
[16:55] <pvtpete> hi.. back
[16:55] <sky_> beli: i tested if dont destroy my grub
[16:55] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: do you think Microsoft care about making  Desktop Linux popular or any other OS?  of course not, hence why they make sure that later versions of WIndows LIve Messenger only work  properly  on  Windows
[16:56] <keepsake> stabbyjoe12: WLM does not work in Wine yet. Use amsn, an alternative, or run a VM to get WLM.
[16:56] <pvtpete> HD's partially solved now. I can't seem to see the ubuntu machine from my mac now
[16:56] <macman> there anyway to rename my paritions ? i have /dev/sda1 as ext3 /dev/dsa4 as extended / dev/sda5 as swap .. can i make /dev/sda1 as ext3 /dev/sda2 as extended and /dev/sda3 as linux-swap ? currently im in gparted looking at my paritiion
[16:56] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yeah I basically already told him that :)
[16:56] <sky_> beli: mount man ?
[16:56] <beli> sky_: open a terminal window and enter: man mount
[16:56] <beli> sky_: and search for the ext3 section
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> wlm is awful anyway.. just a big kiddy looking app with ads on it
[16:57] <sebsebseb> stabbyjoe12: it's amazing the amount of  ignorant computer users,  that rely so much on Windows Live Messenger, even though the alternatives are pretty good as well
[16:57] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: For WLM, there was a-patch that removed ads.
[16:57] <{g}> Hey People! How do I check which version of Ubuntu im using?
[16:57] <adac> Sorry for offtopic. Someone knows if there is a truecrypt channel out there?
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, yeah it breaks on update
[16:57] <visf> hi have idea why some dvd i have can be mount and some can't and follow by a message?
[16:57] <sipior> macman: if you've just the two, you don't need an extended partition.
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, need to reapply each time
[16:57] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: a-patch is updated pretty frequently though.
[16:57] <sky_> beli: how search ? some hotkeys for searching ? :X
[16:57] <cathy> why do people use windows?
[16:57] <ikonia> adac: if you know it's offtopic - please don't ask
[16:58] <keepsake> {g}: uname -r
[16:58] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[16:58] <ikonia> cathy: it's a good option for people - this is ubuntu support discussion only please.
[16:58] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, I would rather keep away from it.. it looks very child like in its appearance
[16:58] <keepsake> {g}: or uname -a for more info
[16:58] <sipior> macman: although please consider a separate partition for /home. it can be quite handy to have your personal data on a separate partition from the system proper.
[16:58] <beli> sky_: depends...try /
[16:58] <Paddy_EIRE> like toys r us or somthing
[16:58] <hemicro> I have some boot problems and can't find the answer on the forums.
[16:58] <sebsebseb> cathy: computer ignorance that's why,  plus most of them have been using it  since hte 90's and as someone  said in IRC the other day (or something like it):  using Windows after 10  years really does cripple certain people
[16:58] <adac> ikonia, well I would ask in truecrpt channel if I would find one :P+
[16:58] <{g}> keepsake: 2.6.20-16-generic
[16:58] <{g}> whats that?
[16:58] <keepsake> Paddy_EIRE: Well, if you have certain features you want, e.g. video call, you're going to need WLM.
[16:58] <ikonia> {g}: a very old kernel
[16:59] <Gnea> cathy: the same reason that people drink coke or pepsi
[16:59] <keepsake> {g}: Ah, version of Ubuntu.
[16:59] <keepsake> {g}: Sorry, I misread, run "lsb_release -a"
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> keepsake, not really.. only if you want to use an msn/hotmail/live account to do so
[16:59] <Paddy_EIRE> there are many ways
[17:00] <saisai> Uninstalling netbeans. Ok some1 told me to use the command: "sudo apt-get remove netbeans" My problem is, I have netbeans IDE 6.5 and netbeans IDE 6.5.1 installed. They are two completely different packages that I downloaded online. I want to uninstall netbeans IDE 6.5 so I tried using the command "sudo apt-get remove netbeans IDE 6.5" but the terminal reports "Couldn't find package netbeans" help please.
[17:00] <cathy> at school we do ict and we don't get told about other os like linux
[17:00] <{g}> Ubuntu 7.04
[17:00] <ikonia> cathy: this is offtopic for this channel
[17:00] <ikonia> cathy: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only please.
[17:00] <beli> sky_: whats the device name of your ext3 partition?
[17:00] <sky_> beli: can you explain me how i can set owner of this partition to me ? my english is not good :X
[17:01] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, detail how you installed them so we can tell you how to uninstall them
[17:01] <sky_> beli: mmmm sda1 ?
[17:01] <{g}> im trying to install "apt-get install sshpass", but ubuntu tells me:
[17:01] <cathy> ikonia:sorry
[17:01] <{g}> Fehl http://de.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/main libssl0.9.8 0.9.8c-4ubuntu0.3 404 Not Found
[17:01] <ikonia> cathy: not a problem
[17:01] <{g}> do i have to update the repositories or something?
[17:01] <beli> sky_: mount | grep sda1  ....tell me result
[17:02] <cathy> but why don't people get told about linux at schools?
[17:02] <keepsake> cathy: Linux is a relatively hard system to use (compared to Windows)
[17:02] <slipstenen> keepsake: no
[17:02] <keepsake> cathy: And there are program compatibility issues.
[17:02] <sky_> beli: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[17:02] <{g}> "apt-get update" doesnt work either.
[17:02] <Zeroyez> i have 2 folders named conf and conf-backup, how can i merge them, they're both in the same directory
[17:02] <Myrtti> keepsake: in *your* opinion
[17:02] <slipstenen> keepsake: compability issues with what
[17:03] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh ???
[17:03] <v0lksman> I have an addon for swiftdove that won't stay installed after restart.  when I install it asks to restart and the addon works...but if I close swiftdove after that and restart it the addon doesn't work (it still appears in the list of addons).  Is there anyway to fix this without killing the whole profile?
[17:03] <{g}> Fehl http://de.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 141.76.2.130 80]
[17:03] <oCean_> !feisty | {g}
[17:03] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh what is the command ???????
[17:03] <slipstenen> Myrtti: +1
[17:03] <beli> sky_: and what is your uid and gid (check with the command: id)
[17:03] <sky_> keepsake,cathy,slipstenen : please this is support channel move your discussion to offtopic
[17:03] <keepsake> slipstenen: Various Windows programs.
[17:03] <oCean_> {g}: You have to upgrade, or install newer version
[17:03] <{g}> oCean_: "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[17:03] <sky_> beli: ee how ?
[17:03] <slipstenen> sky_: is that #non-ubuntu ?
[17:03] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh what is the command ??????? thankss
[17:04] <beli> sky_: type: id
[17:04] <keepsake> !offtopic
[17:04] <sky_> slipstenen: #offtopic
[17:04] <oCean_> {g}: unfortunately, It's not that easy
[17:04] <cathy> sky_: sorry but this is about unbuntu linux
[17:04] <ikonia> cathy: it is not
[17:04] <slipstenen> !offtopic
[17:04] <sky_> cathy: read motd
[17:04] <ikonia> cathy: asking why you're school doesn't teach you about linux is nothing about ubuntu or support
[17:04] <Zeroyez> z3dd: find / -name nameoffile
[17:04] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:04] <ikonia> cathy: I've asked you twice now to focus on the channels topic
[17:04] <macman> i want to change what loads on /dev/sda3 /dev/sda1 and /sda1
[17:04] <macman> there a way
[17:04] <sky_> cathy: you can use #offtopic #linux
[17:05] <Myrtti> cathy: or even #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:05] <eseven73> my sound keeps dying out, it works for a  bit then it stops, the only the only sound im hearing is when I log out it makes a short drum roll
[17:05] <beli> macman: cat /etc/fstab
[17:05] <cathy> ikonia: sorry
[17:05] <sky_> beli: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[17:05] <riwa> to restart x; can I simply log in/out?
[17:05] <sky_> beli: bad copy :D
[17:05] <macman> beli: nothing really in fstab
[17:05] <cathy> sky_:sorry
[17:05] <sky_> beli: uid=1000(sky) gid=1000(sky) skupiny=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),123(admin),124(sambashare),1000(sky)
[17:05] <macman> beli: i can send you a screenshot
[17:05] <oCean_> {g}: from feisty, you have to go through gutsy first.. it's a long way to intrepid release. See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:05] <cathy> Myrtti:sorry
[17:05] <beli> macman: nah...then its using some kinda hotplug
[17:05] <sky_> is here ubottu ? :D
[17:05] <riwa> Must I restart the computer the restart X or is there a faster way?
[17:05] <sipior> riwa: not really, unfortunately. you can restart X with "ctrl-alt-backspace"
[17:06] <ikonia> riwa: ctral+alt+backspace
[17:06] <beli> sky_: sudo chown -R sky:sky /media/disk
[17:06] <beli> sky_: take care you type it correctly!
[17:06] <riwa> But is that a good way of doing it after you've updated your xorg.conf?
[17:06] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, well?
[17:06] <qwe_> Hello. I put my phone with a mem card in USB, but it doesn't mount it (it used to). The 'fdisk -l' doesn't list it, but the 'lsusb' does. What should I do? (After I put it in, my cpu I/O is to the max).
[17:06] <sipior> riwa: sure. you've got the old conf file as a backup, right?
[17:06] <ikonia> riwa: yes
[17:06] <z3dd> how i can find a file in ssh what is the command ??????? thankss the command i got earlyer dosent work...
[17:06] <ikonia> z3dd: find or locate
[17:06] <sky_> beli: thank you very much :) it works :)
[17:07] <beli> sky_: yw
[17:07] <Tobbe> My install of ubuntu worked fine but when I boot my computer I get Grub Error 17. I've entered a linux environment and has mounted my linux partition so I can read fstab and /grub/menu.lst but I have no idea what the error is
[17:07] <saisai> paddy: I downloaded the installer files from netbeans website. I first installed netbeans IDE 6.5 from the terminal. "chmod -x ./netbeans6.5-installer" then "./netbeans6.5-installer" so it worked but this version only supported java, I wanted PHP so I downloaded the netbeans installer for PHP.  it ended up installing a completely new netbeans IDE 6.5.1. So I want to uninstall netbeans IDE 6.5, but if I type in the command "sudo apt-get remove 
[17:07] <Dreamglider> can i do anything to speed up the system when it comes out of screensaver, when i enter the screensaver pswd, it sits there for about 5 seconds and every time it spins up the CD drive before unlocking the screensaver
[17:07] <z3dd> ikonia: find where is on what location...
[17:07] <riwa> sipior: Nah.. Used a program to gen it.
[17:07] <ikonia> z3dd: yes
[17:07] <z3dd> i want find the filename     "example"
[17:07] <z3dd> the folder "example"
[17:07] <sipior> riwa: if you had a working configuration before, make sure you have a backup somewhere, believe me!
[17:07] <ikonia> z3dd: find / -name $filename -print
[17:07] <ikonia> z3dd: man find
[17:07] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, ah ok... so if you go back into the directory you installed netbeans and look to see if there is an uninstaller
[17:08] <riwa> sipior: I know.. But it'sto late...
[17:08] <saisai> ah good idea
[17:08] <sky_> !italy
[17:08] <sky_> Figo: #ubuntu-it
[17:08] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, that was how I would do it
[17:08] <riwa> sipior: If it gets messed up I can just generate  a new one I hope.
[17:09] <{g}> oCean_: im not interested in gutsy.. i just want sshpass
[17:09] <cathy> why is ubuntu free?=)
[17:09] <Paddy_EIRE> why not
[17:09] <sipior> cathy: pushing your luck...
[17:09] <macman> http://i43.tinypic.com/141tmaf.png < ---
[17:09] <Paddy_EIRE> heh
[17:09] <Arkenklo> /disco tiem!
[17:09] <Arkenklo> /disco /disco good good
[17:09] <Tobbe> Can someone help me solve Grub Error 17?
[17:10] <beli> Tobbe: google maybe
[17:10] <keepsake> Tobbe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[17:10] <cathy> hello :)
[17:10] <ikonia> cathy: please follow the topic this time
[17:11] <Tobbe> keepsake: That won't really help me though, will it? It's a dualboot system, I need the grub menu
[17:11] <cathy> ikonia: ok are you a bot?
[17:11] <ikonia> cathy: you know I'm not
[17:11] <oCean_> {g}: yeah, well.. you can't use the feisty repos. That release is too old, and no longer supported
[17:11] <cathy> ikonia: i don't know you sound like one :p
[17:11] <pvtpete> would anyone be gracious enough to help me with a vnc / networking issue between my mac and ubuntu. I can't see it from my mac over the network :)
[17:11] <beli> Tobbe: what did you do before error 17 came up?
[17:11] <dingleberry> Seriously, does anyone have any sorta of issue to ubuntu flash
[17:11] <sipior> cathy: seriously, getting rather tedious
[17:12] <Tobbe> beli: Installed ubuntu from a USB stick
[17:12] <{g}> oCean_: yes, thats the problem
[17:12] <ikonia> cathy: just follow the topic of the channel - ubuntu support
[17:12] <keepsake> Tobbe: Try it and see if it works, it's just a quick solution I found via Google.
[17:12] <beli> Tobbe: so it hasnt been working before...hmm ok
[17:12] <Tobbe> beli: Exactly. I'm guessing there is some error in either fstab or menu.lst, but I'm not skilled enough to see what the problem is
[17:12] <sky_> cathy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:12] <{g}> oCean_: will a "apt-get dist-upgrade" do nothing?
[17:13] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:13] <beli> Tobbe: or just in the grub config, right...
[17:13] <cathy> sky_: don't be rude
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !pm | lupin
[17:13] <saisai> paddy: yes there is an uninstall.sh  thanks a lot. I was too single-minded thinking I had to do everything on the terminal
[17:13] <slipstenen> Tobbe: is it win/ubuntu ?
[17:13] <sky_> cathy: i am not :)
[17:13] <funkyHat> Why does this page http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/ only show DVD images?
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> stop randomly pm'ing lupin :)
[17:13] <slipstenen> starta din dator med windows skiva i och välj recoverconsole och skriv sedan fixmbr
[17:13] <Tobbe> slipstenen: Yes
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, :)
[17:13] <Paddy_EIRE> saisai, easy done
[17:14] <Tobbe> slipstenen: Men tar inte det bort min grub?
[17:14] <beli> Tobbe: on bootup...you can press ESC key to make grub halt for input....you can edit entries with the 'e' key....verify the settings....google if you dont understand each..or ask here again....
[17:14] <slipstenen> Tobbe: hmm... dunno
[17:14] <beli> Tobbe: another nice tool might be supergrub
[17:14] <{g}> oCean_: maybe i can simply put sshpass in /usr/bin/ ?
[17:14] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:14] <slipstenen> Tobbe: no
[17:14] <Pici> !sv | slipstenen
[17:14] <sky_> cathy: just join to #ubuntu-offtopic and we can discuss there
[17:15] <slipstenen> Pici: sorry, i pressed enter before translation
[17:15] <beli> Tobbe: but i guess you are new to linux and the really most important thing to learn at the beggining is: learn to read, learn and understand. sounds common, but its really essential with linux
[17:15] <cathy> sky_: are you trying to say you don't want be to be here :(
[17:16] <sebsebseb> !rules | cathy
[17:16] <Paddy_EIRE> cathy, you need to follow the topic or leave
[17:16] <sebsebseb> cathy: uh wrong one
[17:16] <slipstenen> Tobbe: but if it is problem with the actual grub the easy way way would be to rebuild the grub.
[17:16] <Tobbe> beli: Actually, I've used Linux for several years :/ Never had Ubuntus autoinstall of grub fail on me though
[17:16] <unr3a1> cathy: what sky is saying is that this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY.  if you want to discuss erroneous subjects do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:16] <sebsebseb> cathy: yeah it's meant to just be Ubuntu stuff in here
[17:17] <cathy> :(
[17:17] <oCean_> {g}: well, you have to find it first, one that matches your old version, and all matching dependencies too.
[17:17] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:17] <slipstenen> Tobbe: the error 17 is "file not found" or similar.
[17:17] <cathy> you did not help me with my problem
[17:17] <beli> Tobbe: ok :)
[17:17] <ikonia> cathy: what is you're problem you need help with
[17:17] <beli> Tobbe: so why not learn grub :)
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: what is your problem?   I missed stuff, I just had a look here agian
[17:18] <sky_> !ask
[17:18] <fiber_cut> In a asus eeepc running the basic ubuntu is there a way to get a shell
[17:18] <cathy> ikonia: how do i get my ipod working on ubuntu
[17:18] <ikonia> fiber_cut: same was as ubuntu
[17:18] <{g}> oCean_: i just copied one from another machine, and it works.
[17:18] <Tobbe> beli: To be honest, I'm just not all that comfortable playing around the booting etc. I'm so used to it just working and I really don't want to risk anything
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: oh the ipod stuff still
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: well first of all it would help to be on Ubuntu :)
[17:18] <oCean_> {g}: ok!
[17:18] <sebsebseb> cathy: when I looked at your hostname it said  Opera on Windows
[17:18] <cathy> fiber_cut: yes i have one too
[17:18] <ikonia> cathy: well, thats a big question, some people use alternatives like amarok others use itunes in wine, it's a real personal preference thing
[17:19] <fiber_cut> I cant figure it out, I use the desktop cersion at home and there is the link in the menu but I cant find one or even a shortcut
[17:19] <ikonia> !ipod
[17:19] <sky_> !iTunes
[17:19] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:19] <ikonia> cathy: have a look through the links ubottu has just sent you, see which one you like th emost
[17:19] <ikonia> the most
[17:19] <beli> Tobbe: the risk to do sth. wrong it there, if you dont read and understand...
[17:19] <sebsebseb> cathy: do you even have Ubuntu installed yet?
[17:20] <beli> Tobbe: someone here could tell you to user \rm -rf /& to fix it.....and then?
[17:20] <fiber_cut> someone told me alt-f2 but that doesnt work
[17:20] <beli> Tobbe: but take a look at http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[17:20] <cathy> i don't have oprea on my laptop and yes i do have ubuntu
[17:20] <cathy> on my laptop
[17:20] <ikonia> cathy: have a scan through the links ubottu sent you
[17:20] <r0tty> anyone know how to get the new notification system woking on 9.04
[17:20] <Pici> r0tty: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[17:20] <ikonia> cathy: see if any of them look interesting to you
[17:20] <Tobbe> beli: Well, I'm not stupid :) I wouldn't just input anything someone told me without checking out what their instructions meant
[17:20] <ikonia> !jaunty > r0tty
[17:20] <beli> fiber_cut: crtrl+alt+f2
[17:20] <sebsebseb> cathy: [17:20] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from cathy: Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en).
[17:20] <sebsebseb> cathy: why does it tell me that?
[17:20] <sky_> cathy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[17:21] <fiber_cut> Beli: Thank you
[17:21] <slipstenen> Tobbe: Ultimate Boot CD has the Super Grub tool that can recover the grub for you. Maybe an option?
[17:21] <sky_> cathy: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[17:21] <HentaiDebian> sebsebseb, maybe using another computer, give the user beneift of doubt
[17:21] <Tobbe> slipstenen: Hmm, I'll look into it
[17:21] <sebsebseb> HentaiDebian: that could be it sure
[17:21] <fiber_cut> One more question can I install it onto a SD card and boot? The install goes fine but when it reboots it just sits there. Is it installing grub into the wrong place?
[17:21] <cathy> sebsebseb: because i don't have oprea on my laptop
[17:21] <sky_> sebsebseb: dont confuse him :D
[17:21] <sebsebseb> cathy: you can have Opera in Ubuntu as well by the way
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> opera ftw
[17:22] <sebsebseb> sky_: I thought it was a she?  cathy is a woamns name
[17:22] <HentaiDebian> guess cathy has no idea you can use things other then opera to use irc
[17:22] <sky_> oooh
[17:22] <sky_> she :D
[17:22] <beli> Tobbe: then try the supergrub linke i gave you before
[17:22] <sebsebseb> sky_: I don't know if they are a she or he
[17:22] <Pici> This is a support channel, lets keep it on topic please.
[17:22] <Tobbe> beli: I guess I can try putting supergrub on my USB and see if it helps
[17:22] <cathy> sebsebseb: i know but it will take up too much space (its a eee pc)
[17:22] <Lasivian> I have a problem with a bluetooth dongle not showing up, dmesg and lsusb here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132566/ thanks
[17:23] <sebsebseb> cathy: Linux programs don't  take up that much space
[17:23] <ikonia> Lasivian: if dmesg and lsusb don't see it - it's not supported hardware
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: looks fine
[17:23] <cathy> i am a she :(
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ah
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> no bluetooth in lsusb = bad
[17:23] <sebsebseb> cathy: you are?
[17:23] <sebsebseb> cathy: why :(
[17:23] <beli> Tobbe: you need to use it from a bootable device...but just read ;)
[17:23] <cathy> why do people think ai am a him?
[17:23] <ikonia> sebsebseb: stop it please
[17:24] <Tobbe> beli: I know, I installed linux from the USB stick so
[17:24] <Nalf> ActionParsnip: I thought that was a good thing. ;)
[17:24] <ikonia> cathy: don't worry - lets just go back to ubuntu support discussion
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Pici: indeed  trying to keep things on topic, can be difficult at times though
[17:24] <cathy> sebsebseb: because people think i have a pennis
[17:24] <ikonia> cathy: STOP
[17:24] <sebsebseb> cathy:  lol ok  let's be on topic :)
[17:24] <ikonia> cathy: you won't be asked again
[17:24] <regeya> !offtopic > cathy
[17:24] <fiber_cut> Has anyone tried to install ubuntu onto a SD card and run it from there?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: try: sudo modprobe bluetooth
[17:24] <Nalf> fiber_cut, yes.
[17:24] <cathy> lol
[17:24] <sebsebseb> cathy: yeah be careful some of the ops here ban people easilly or kick them out easilley
[17:24] <ikonia> fiber_cut: yes
[17:24] <fiber_cut> How did you get it to boot mine will not it installs fine but jsut hangs on reboot
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: and: sudo modprobe btusb
[17:25] <Nalf> fiber_cut, just use the live.
[17:25] <gabbsmo> I am attempting to create a .desktop file to start Spotify under wine. When I copy-paste my Exec-value into the terminal it works. But when I luanch the shortcut I get "command does not excist"
[17:25] <cathy> ok sorry people
[17:25] <Eckoie> bios fiber_cut?
[17:25] <Nalf> fiber_cut, or install it persistently. http://pendrivelinux.com I believe.
[17:25] <fiber_cut> yeah I changed it to boot from SD but I just get blinking curser thats it
[17:25] <hemicro> I have a boot problem. The computer locks up as soon as the Ubuntu progress bar is done  and the screen should come up. The screen goes dark and locks.
[17:26] <ZoneMikel> anyone know where i can go for tech support for ubuntu, specifically using radeon cards with it
[17:26] <Nalf> hemicro, can you hit ctrl+alt+backspace?
[17:26] <aclonedsheep> Is there a way to restore my ubuntu partition if a windows install wiped it out?  I didn't format,,, i dunno what fdisk isnt showing my linux partition now
[17:26] <sebsebseb> cathy: loads of options for ipod.   we have already given you some.   ,but  your still asking what to do with ipod hum
[17:26] <sebsebseb> cathy: you don't know how to install programs in Ubuntu?
[17:26] <void_false> how can I teach xarchiver to open pdf files in xpdf and not in firefox?
[17:26] <Nalf> aclonedsheep, reinstall grub.
[17:26] <fiber_cut> Oh that link is awsome thanks
[17:26] <hemicro> Nalf the keyboard is locked also
[17:26] <Nalf> fiber_cut, good job.
[17:27] <corey> Is there a website dedicated to linux for the laptop?
[17:27] <sebsebseb> !laptop
[17:27] <ikonia> corey: use google -
[17:27] <aclonedsheep> nalf im trying to install it per the directions on the ubuntu site but it says t o fidn your partition in fdisk and mine isnt showing up
[17:27] <Paddy_EIRE> thanks Pici I was being tortured
[17:27] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: nothing
[17:27] <Nalf> hemicro, you can't even ctrlt+alt+f2 or alt+f2.. whatever the command is.
[17:27] <corey> ikonia: try to be helpful
[17:27] <Nalf> aclonedsheep, that's not a good sign.
[17:27] <Lasivian> ikonia: it's seen when I plug it in, but it gives errors in dmesg and no name in lsusb
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: thats good, try lsusb again
[17:27] <ikonia> corey: try to ask ontopic question
[17:27] <cathy>  sebsebseb: i use add or remove  '<
[17:27] <ZoneMikel> anytime i touch anything in "catalyst crap center" it makes the machine unusable, it will boot but by the time it gets to the login screen it freezes
[17:27] <beli> cathy: with all my respect...wth dont you go and read the ubuntu howtos and stuff? you cant await to use a car the first time and drive like michael schumacher......he learned it! and now go and learn the basics yourself!
[17:27] <void_false> how can I teach xarchiver to open pdf files in xpdf and not in firefox?
[17:28] <Nalf> aclonedsheep, unfortunately you're going to have to probe someone else who is better with that stuff. I am rather lacking in that area.
[17:28] <corey> ikonia; sorry I cant understand your dialect
[17:28] <sebsebseb> cathy: ok  that proves it you don't really know how to install software?   if you want let's pm,  and I can help you with all that, and  we can be off topic :D   without ops complaining at us
[17:28] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: same thing, no name shown
[17:28] <Eckoie> take it for lessons void_false
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> void_false: are pdfs associated with xpdf
[17:28] <aclonedsheep> lol
[17:28] <ikonia> corey: please ask ontopic questions, this channel is for ubuntu support - not generic linux
[17:28] <aclonedsheep> np
[17:28] <void_false> yes.
[17:28] <corey> ikonia; sorry I cant understand your dialect
[17:28] <Nalf> !offtopic
[17:28] <hemicro> Nalf, no the system is locked up. I believe it may have something to do with the nVidia card, but there are not indication. I have 2 kernals available and if I alternate their use on startup it will startup ok.
[17:29] <timbooka> hello all... I just got myself a new acer aspire 4520 ubuntu is installed & all updates have been performed. The problem is that I can't get to use the built in wireless hardware
[17:29] <cathy> sebsebseb:? how?
[17:29] <sebsebseb> cathy: you got a tab open with my name?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[17:29] <sebsebseb> cathy: I already started on earlier,  it should be open there.  with my name on it?
[17:29] <ZoneMikel> how do i get this to stop showing me the joins/leaves ?
[17:29] <sebsebseb> cathy: or just find my name in the list and click on it
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-943133.html
[17:30] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: command not found
[17:30] <saisai> zoneMikel: good question I also want to know, I have been trying to figure it out
[17:30] <Paddy_EIRE> ZoneMikel, what is "this"?
[17:30] <ZoneMikel> ubuntu server
[17:30] <ellar> saisai me too
[17:30] <Lasivian> ActionParsnip: ,/bluetooth restart gives 2 "oks"
[17:30] <ZoneMikel> xchat
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: thats good
[17:30] <ZoneMikel> its got to be some command
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Lasivian: now fire up blueman'
[17:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ZoneMikel, again.. what is "this"?
[17:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ZoneMikel, ah
[17:31] <ellar> leave entry messages irc
[17:31] <saisai> the chat screen
[17:31] <ikonia> Lasivian: bluetooth is a service - not a device
[17:31] <ZoneMikel> xchat gnome irc chat ... irc client
[17:31] <ikonia> Lasivian: so the "ok" doesn't mean your hardware is being used
[17:31] <ZoneMikel> i found it
[17:32] <bigrigger> ZoneMikel: if you use xchat,  right click on the channel tab, toggle show joins parts quits. Suggest you use xchat, not xchat-gnome.
[17:32] <ZoneMikel> right click #ubuntu then uncheck show join/part msg
[17:32] <zipper> how to install avg antivir on ubuntu
[17:32] <pvtpete> hi. I  cant see my ubuntu machine over the network, but it can see me - is there anything I can try?
[17:32] <ZoneMikel> why should i use xchat
[17:32] <Lasivian> Gnome bluetooth wizard sees nothing
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> !antivirus | zipper
[17:33] <genii> Lasivian: I suspect this is your problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/268502
[17:33] <saisai> Does any1 know how to block the entry/leave messages for pidgin?
[17:33] <zipper> ubottu: thanks sur
[17:33] <ChrizC> hi guys, I'm speaking to you from the Live CD of 8.10, and I'm trying to install it. However, about half-way through (it varies), I get error 5 (input/output error) and I was wondering how I could stop this from happening (note, I can't go on another OS on this computer as I just vaporized my previous partitions)
[17:34] <zipper> ubottu: but u mean virus n trojan dont work on  ubuntu
[17:34] <fiber_cut> Hell JEEEEEESsssss I got it to boot on the eeepc from the sd card wooo hoo
[17:34] <aclonedsheep> Hey, is there a way to restore my ubuntu partition?  Somehow it is good, I installed windows on my ntfs partition and thought i could just reinstall grub, but the partition isn't showing in fdisk.  any ideas?  thanks
[17:34] <fiber_cut> works great
[17:34] <ellar> saisai: pidgin plugin
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> saisai: main window -> ctrl + u
[17:34] <Lasivian> genii: yeah, that unfortunately sounds right
[17:34] <fiber_cut> Off subject anyone know what size SD card these eeepcs can handle?
[17:34] <fiber_cut> Just have 8 gig in it now
[17:34] <baber> hi
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> saisai: there seleck: join/part hiding
[17:34] <ChrizC> zipper: yes, basically. I've never heard of a trojan/virus on Ubuntu.
[17:34] <ZoneMikel> anyone know how to get tv out to work on ati radeon 1550 ... seriously every time i touch something i ccc it makes it crash
[17:34] <LjL> fiber_cut: #ubuntu-offtopic or #eeepc would be much better places to ask
[17:34] <saisai> gotcha thanks
[17:35] <ikonia> fiber_cut: use the web - this channel is for ubuntu support only as you've seen mentioned about 10 times in the past 5 minutes
[17:35] <fiber_cut> I know I just thought someone may know off the top of their head
[17:35] <ZoneMikel> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/nightmare-installing-ati-radeon-1550-my-only-problem-with-ubuntu-709746/
[17:35] <lowbitch> #4on4.et
[17:35] <orestes> oi
[17:35] <ikonia> fiber_cut: but you know it's offtopic - so don't ask
[17:35] <Akkernight> Omg... I just removed Ubuntu using the package manager xD
[17:35] <orestes> alguem do brasil
[17:35] <Akkernight> Tried uninstalling GCC..
[17:35] <beli> ChrizC: maybe your install medium is broken or the cdrom drive has problems...
[17:35] <baber> how can i close a port by netstat for example how can i close pidgin's port ?
[17:35] <beli> ChrizC: i/o error could be right anything
[17:35] <ikonia> baber: you need to not run pidgin or use a firewall
[17:35] <Akkernight> Had to format then reinstall Ubuntu -.-
[17:36] <fiber_cut> WOW running ubuntu off a SD card is still extremly fast
[17:36] <ChrizC> beli: my CD's fine, I got it from ShipIt/Canonical, and my CD drives old, but it's still working well.
[17:36] <orestes> oi
[17:36] <beli> ChrizC: ...if its not your install media maybe its broken udma cable or your harddrive itself...
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses
[17:36] <quibbler> !br | orestes
[17:36] <ZoneMikel> omg its so easy to install antivir
[17:36] <ChrizC> beli: A. UDMA cable = ? B. My HDD's fine as I've tried both.
[17:36] <baber> ikonia: i run it now with what command can close that port?
[17:36] <zipper> ubottu: but its possible
[17:37] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: I stand corrected.
[17:37] <fiber_cut> I traded a cell phone for this eeepc and putting ubuntu desktop on it is great
[17:37] <ikonia> baber: iptables is the default linux firewall system
[17:37] <ZoneMikel> wtf is there a bot for ?
[17:37] <kitche> zipper: install clamav
[17:37] <beli> ChrizC: ok...i dont trust that, but lets be more specific...when do these errors come up?
[17:37] <kitche> ZoneMikel: it's easier to give out a command to the bot for certain questions
[17:37] <Buffalo_Bill> Bot? ubottu?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: they do exist, just not very wild and as long as you limit sudo access you will be fine
[17:37] <zipper> kitche: clamav cant find well
[17:37] <baber> ikonia: with netstat command not ?
[17:37] <ZoneMikel> guess no one was dumb enough to buy a ATI card like me ?
[17:38] <Buffalo_Bill> lol :P
[17:38] <ChrizC> beli: between 40 and 70% of "Copying files.." stage of installation.
[17:38] <ikonia> baber: no
[17:38] <ChrizC> It varies on each attempt.
[17:38] <orestes> oi
[17:38] <baber> iptable can find my port?
[17:38] <LjL> ryshyr-bot: hello
[17:38]  * ZoneMikel leaves
[17:38] <beli> baber: use netfilter
[17:39] <ryshyr-bot> LjL: hey
[17:39] <quibbler> zipper: if you feel you need an antivirus program try avg
[17:39] <zipper> quibbler: yes i will
[17:39] <saisai> I tried AVG for windows, I don't think it was good.
[17:40] <quibbler> zipper: it's good in windows and there is a linux version
[17:40] <SeViLLa> ls
[17:40] <baber> beli: netfilter can find and close port?
[17:40] <saisai> But it's free
[17:40] <SeViLLa> oops
[17:40] <beli> baber: find?
[17:40] <zipper> quibbler:i know i did test it
[17:40] <quibbler> zipper: ok good luck
[17:40] <beli> baber: netfilter is a tool to do some kind of firewall....YOU need to know what to do
[17:40] <fiber_cut> Now if we can just get ubuntu on my iphone lol
[17:41] <beli> baber: basically you DENY ALL and open whats needed
[17:41] <zipper> quibbler: but installed . it doesnt work
[17:41] <zipper> quibbler:  i cudnot find icon
[17:41] <baber> beli: netfilter is a command or a software?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> saisai: in linux its not needed unless you use amba, its only needed to protect your othersystems from users uploading virused files
[17:41] <beli> baber: software...iptables
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> *samba
[17:42] <baber> beli: i want a command line for find and close ports
[17:42] <Huufarted> Question for you guys.  My server keeps dropping and I"m not sure why.  Running Ubuntu Desktop 8.10.  Unable to connect by telnet, ssh, ftp, http when this happens.  X is running, I can move the mouse, but the image on the screen itself is frozen and I can't type.
[17:42] <beli> ChrizC: i want to make sure it isnt your media and not your hardare...cause i think its one or both of these
[17:42] <quibbler> zipper: i don't use anti virus program but i would suggest you try the ubuntuforums
[17:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !firewall | baber
[17:43] <Huufarted> In regards to my server dropping, I think this MIGHT be related, but I'm not sure...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/132598/
[17:43] <aclonedsheep> is there a way to repair my partition table?
[17:43] <ChrizC> beli: have you heard of Canonical making TWO faulty discs in the same line?
[17:43] <quibbler> zipper: google avg site: ubuntuforums.org
[17:43] <beli> baber: you can use netstat to see whats going on...or nmap as a port scanner....and to close these ports the best way is to stop the service behind....then or additionally use a firewall solution...
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: have you configured your firewall any?
[17:43] <zipper> quibbler: ok yhanks
[17:43] <beli> ChrizC: UDMA cable...
[17:43] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip, basic IPTables are set up, but they're set to allow all from any to any
[17:43] <quibbler> zipper:  you are welcome
[17:43] <ChrizC> beli: what is that?
[17:44] <beli> ChrizC: guess A......
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> beli: the ribbon cable for PATA drives
[17:44] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: The firewall in use is a generic Linksys at the moment.
[17:44] <bin10101> I am having trouble with cups...what does it mean if there is a foomatic driver vs a simplified vs a notsimplified driver?
[17:44] <adac> Does anyone know how to password protect the access to my usb stick?
[17:44] <ChrizC> beli: I've just come from school, I'm not very alert for guessing games now.
[17:44] <beli> baber: to see the packets flowing use a packet sniffer.....but i think you better start reading more
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: thats a router, the firewall is on the WAN side so wont affect internal communication
[17:45] <baber> beli: is your means that first with netstat check ports and with iptables close them?
[17:45] <beli> ChrizC: you named it guess A and B before....
[17:45] <beli> ChrizC: i am not playing
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: can you connect via ip?
[17:45] <bin10101> is foomatic better than Gutenprint drivers?
[17:45] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: I know.  As far as the Ubuntu machine is concerned, I did have firestarter installed at one point, but when I realized I NEEDED a gui to run it, I removed it.
[17:45] <beli> baber: yes...at first you need to understand whats going on...then you can react...isnt it that way?
[17:45] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: when the server drops, I cannot.  I can connect to it right now, however.
[17:46] <ChrizC> beli: the powers of Wikipedia say "Ultra Direct Memory Access?"
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: well iptables is still there, just not configured
[17:46] <beli> ChrizC: your harddrive is blank? no needed data on it?
[17:46] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: would that cause the issues with X I was seeing as well?
[17:46] <ChrizC> beli: correct
[17:46] <beli> ChrizC: so do a stress test for i/o not using your cdrom drive....you can use dd for that
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: not sure, have you tried stopping the listening apps and only running one of them, like ssh
[17:47] <ChrizC> sorry beli, I'm a linux newbie so you'll have to explain how to do that, sorry :P
[17:47] <Tobbe> slipstenen: That's amazing! windows fixmbr actually fixed grub O.o
[17:47] <aclonedsheep> really?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: kil the other listening apps and build up slowly
[17:47] <aclonedsheep> i wonder if it could help me
[17:48] <aclonedsheep> my partition table is jacked up somehow
[17:48] <aclonedsheep> i installed windows and messed up the mbr and all
[17:48] <akazawa> hello, I am having an issue with playing games. When I go in games they say my IP is 127.12.34.56 and when I go into the terminal I can ping 127.12.34.56 and ssh to it and it shows up as the computer I am using, however my IP is 192.168.2.3. What is going on? How can I make it resolve to the correct ip?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> !grub | aclonedsheep
[17:48] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: that's the problem.  When it locks up, it could be in an hour, it could be in 4 hours, it could be 24 hours.  There's no pattern.  I also can't find anything hardware related in the logs.
[17:48] <aclonedsheep> ActionParsnip thanks, i've been following those directions
[17:48] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: the odd thing is, stuff still gets LOGGED to those logs while it looks like it's locked up.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: check   dmesg | tail when it hangs and recovers
[17:49] <beli> ChrizC: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/your_hardrive_you_want_to_install_ubuntu_to bs=1024          for example
[17:49] <ChrizC> akazawa: I have a feeling the 127 one is your INTERNAL ip address, whereas 192 is your IP address for everyone else, either that or vice-versa
[17:49] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: the only recover I can do is when I do a hard shutdown and dmesg is reset on boot up
[17:49] <beli> ChrizC: and see if there are i/o errors again
[17:49] <ChrizC> beli: and I'd do that in terminal, yes?
[17:49] <saisai> How do I move a file from one file browser to another. It says "permission denied"?
[17:49] <aclonedsheep> ActionParsnip: The problem is when  I fdisk -l I only see my NTFS partition...no linux partition
[17:49] <syockit> akazawa: but does it work using your 192 ip?
[17:49] <beli> ChrizC: yes, but again: the whole drive will be overwritten with zeros
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: 127.x.y.z is a loopback device
[17:49] <akazawa> ChrizC: No it's not a real IP address
[17:49] <saisai> How do I move a file from one file browser to another file browser. It says "permission denied"?
[17:50] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: I have an idea.  I can set up something like this on the main console:  tail -f /var/log/dmesg > ~/dmesg.log
[17:50] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: I never set one up, how come its showing up now
[17:50] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: You're a helluva guy no matter what everybody else says.
[17:50] <quibbler> !sudo | saisai:
[17:50] <kitche> saisai: one of the file browser need sudo if it's in a directory that you do not have permissions to write to
[17:50] <riwa> I'm trying to configure xinerama. And everything is working fine except that it black and white. I can't find anything on google except that I should add "Option "COMPOSITE" somewhere. This really bugs me.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: sounds like a step inthe right direction :)
[17:51] <ChrizC> beli: where it's drive_you_want_to_install_to, what would be the names for it in Ubuntu, because I'm used to Windows drive names (C:/, M:/)
[17:51] <Fritzla> hallo  was ist ein guter  für scripte schreiben für die shell?
[17:51] <saisai> but do I have to be in the terminal?
[17:51] <Fritzla> editor lol^
[17:51] <aclonedsheep> ActionParsnip : I know you are busy but did you get to read what my issue was or have any ideas?  IF not i'm sorry to bug you
[17:51] <beli> ChrizC: depends on your hardware...
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: All PCs have looopback but your game may make its own device'
[17:51] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: it doesn't show up in ifconfig -a
[17:52] <quibbler> !de | Fritzla
[17:52] <akazawa> but I can ping the ip when the game is not running
[17:52] <ChrizC> beli: so how would I find it out?
[17:52] <beli> ChrizC: what kind of ide device do you have?
[17:52] <regeya> !de > Fritzla
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> aclonedsheep: does the disk show up in bios?
[17:52] <ChrizC> beli: pass?
[17:52] <regeya> however Fritzla, if you speak any english, editors tend to be personal choice...I use vim for shellscripts :->
[17:52] <beli> ChrizC: ?
[17:52] <ChrizC> beli: I really don't know :P
[17:52] <beli> ChrizC: how many harddrives are you using
[17:52] <ChrizC> 2, beli.
[17:53] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: can I PM you?
[17:53] <quibbler> saisai: what are you trying to do?
[17:53] <syockit> akazawa: but since you get to ssh it, it's not specific to the game, correct? maybe some avahi thing got it up...
[17:53] <beli> ChrizC: both are there for linux?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: maybe its created when the game is ran
[17:53] <ChrizC> beli: yes. Both are nuked.
[17:53] <beli> ok
[17:53] <saisai> I just want to move a file from one directory to another
[17:53] <saisai> but its saying permission denied
[17:53] <beli> ChrizC: so i guess you have one harddrive connected as primary master....
[17:53] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: the game is run under wine
[17:54] <ChrizC> saisai: what folders to + from?
[17:54] <ChrizC> beli: correct.
[17:54] <beli> ChrizC: since you are using old hardware....it should be /dev/sda
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: id heck the game's settings. see if theres anything weird with respect to loopback devices
[17:54] <akazawa> syockit: yeah, I was thinking something like that
[17:54] <ChrizC> I want to use my newer, bigger drive?
[17:54] <beli> ChrizC: or /dev/hda
[17:54] <beli> ChrizC: give it a try
[17:54] <jophish> If I have a brightness function key, and it isn't registering in acpi_listen. Is there any hope of me being able to use it?
[17:54] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: there isn't, it's a windows game
[17:54] <ChrizC> beli: for a newer secondary drive, would it be hdb?
[17:54] <saisai> quibbler: From a folder in "home" to a folder in "usr"
[17:55] <saisai> How do you know these things?
[17:55] <quibbler> saisai: you need to be root in a terminal  type:  gksudo nautilus      this will open a file browser as root
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: maybe its a weid quirk in wine
[17:55] <saisai> should I just buy a linux book and read?
[17:55] <Axan> Hi
[17:55] <akazawa> ActionParsnip: it's not wine
[17:55] <beli> ChrizC: right...but i recommend to install the base to the primary master....for no reason :)
[17:55] <saisai> I feel like a retard asking these Qs
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> akazawa: but to connect to yourself use localhost as the host name, other systems will use your class c ip as you'd expect
[17:55] <saisai> a windows retard
[17:56] <saisai> ok good command thanks
[17:56] <ChrizC> beli: "dd: opening `/dev/hda': Permission denied"
[17:56] <beli> ChrizC: you need to be superuser
[17:56] <Axan> I got problems using SSH, I can connect my server, but as soon as I type "cat <file>" or "top" or any command with few return lines expected, then the ssh client freeze.. I must close and re-open terminal and make a new connection :/  Any idea ??
[17:56] <beli> ChrizC: sudo bash    and do all the commands from that shell
[17:57] <ChrizC> oh cheers
[17:57] <tobberoth> If I have a minimal Ubuntu installation and want to try KDE, is apt-get install KDE enough? and can I simply remove all of the KDE stuff installed by it somehow?
[17:57] <Errietta> XD
[17:57] <extor> what is a free .fla file editor? I need to edit some template files that have the .fla included
[17:57] <quibbler> saisai: there are many free linux and ubuntu ebooks on the web search and you will find
[17:57] <beli> Axan: telnet put_ip_of_ssh_server_herer 22             and see if it gives you some identity string
[17:58] <Akkernight> extor, I don't think you can do that legally unless you use Adobe Flash
[17:58] <arvind_khadri> saisai, tldp.org
[17:58] <extor> Akkernight, errr sure you can. .fla is an open standard and anything can be created to manipulate it
[17:58] <extor> adobe gives out the specs for it too afaik
[17:58] <zxd__> what's the default gdm theme on ubuntu
[17:58] <zxd__> how can I check what is the default currently configured
[17:59] <aclonedsheep> I'm trying to restore grub after a windows install but fdisk -l is missing partitions...how can i restore my partition table?
[17:59] <Akkernight> extor, hmm... Ain't .fla the format that's shown on websites and stuff?
[17:59] <extor> Akkernight, no
[17:59] <Axan> beli, I use private/public keys to connect and it work correctly, I mean I can open connection, but as soon as I run a command like "top" or a big "ls -lah", it crash.. And if I run the same commands into a 'screen', then it work!! it's crazy :/
[17:59] <extor> and even if it were there are apps like gnash that can view it
[17:59] <extor> .fla is the flash source code
[18:00] <phil_taylor_com> Any initramfs experts in here?
[18:00] <beli> Axan: so connections is established....you better tell that ;) any error message?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> tobberoth: sido apt-get install kde-base
[18:00] <Akkernight> extor, well, I'm pretty sure it's not legal, unless you use Adobe Flash to open Flash files... But I havn't read the Legal Agreement or any license
[18:00] <ChrizC> beli: "dd: writing `/dev/hda': No space left on device" "643245+0 records in" "643244+0 records out" "658681856 bytes (659 MB) copied, 8.27048 s, 79.6 MB/s"
[18:00] <unop> extor, .fla can also mean 'free lossless audio' - an audio format.
[18:00] <beli> ChrizC: with no i/o error?
[18:00] <extor> Akkernight, if that were true then the dozens and dozens of free .fla editors out there would not exist, would they?
[18:00] <ChrizC> none that I can see, beli.
[18:00] <Axan> beli, no error message on client, it just "freeze".. Where can I look for a error log file on server (and client) ?
[18:01] <beli> Axan: whats your client?
[18:01] <extor> unop I want to edit flash source files
[18:01] <Akkernight> extor, PirateBay exists... But if you know of such editors, why do you ask for such editors?
[18:01] <Axan> beli, I think both server and client are OpenSSH, with telnet on server I get: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-3ubuntu1
[18:01] <beli> Axan: do you run the ssh client from a terminal windows?
[18:02] <tobberoth> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[18:02] <extor> Akkernight, Im not running windows, doh
[18:02] <Axan> beli, By the way, if I connect another server (external one, via internet), I don't have problem.
[18:02] <beli> Axan: do you run the ssh client from a terminal window?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> extor: flash is proprietary format to Adobe so a flash creator would need to be made by adobe to be useful, there may be a best effort one some place
[18:02] <Axan> beli, er ? I'm in X, i run a terminal and type "ssh server_ip"..
[18:02] <Akkernight> extor, doesn't dis-prove any legal things about it, but as I said, I don't know
[18:03] <beli> Axan: press ctrl+alt+f2 and login...try from console...
[18:03] <Axan> beli, ok i try..
[18:03] <tobberoth> ActionParsnip: Actually, I can't find any kde-base package in apt-get
[18:03] <extor> Why are people giving pseudo-philosophical, pseudo-legal and ethical answers to my question?
[18:03] <beli> ChrizC: ok...now lets to the same thing using your cdrom
[18:03] <extor> Akkernight, heres an idea. If you have no clue what you are taling about, don
[18:03] <extor> dont say it
[18:03] <beli> ChrizC: your cdrom is primary or secondary slave?
[18:03] <azharcs> Hi, Does anyone know why in Ubuntu, when i save a file eg: when i save file example.txt , there is another file example.txt~
[18:03] <Akkernight> extor, 'cause you're asking for editors that you claim to know yourself
[18:04] <AJC_Z0> How do I add an application to the list in the pop-up window when I insert removable media (CD, DVD, etc.)?
[18:04] <extor> Especially when it comes to legal advice which you are not able to render unless you are a lawyer
[18:04] <zash> azharcs: a backup copy
[18:04] <unop> extor, it's all building up to 'there are probably no .fla editors for linux ...'
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> tobberoth: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[18:04] <blip> extor what do u want
[18:04] <azharcs> zash: Are they important or can i delete them
[18:04] <aclonedsheep> I'm trying to restore grub after a windows install but fdisk -l is missing partitions...how can i restore my partition table?
[18:04] <extor> Jesus christ I just as a simple and legit question and I get attacked by people interrogating me
[18:04] <beli> aclonedsheep: i recommend supergrub
[18:05] <ChrizC> beli; primary
[18:05] <blip> question was...
[18:05] <erUSUL> aclonedsheep: gpart or testdisk
[18:05] <extor> blip, I just wanted a simple .fla editor for linux.
[18:05] <amigamia> has anyone had any success in running LFS server in ubuntu?
[18:05] <beli> aclonedsheep: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[18:05] <erUSUL> !info gpart | aclonedsheep
[18:05] <unop> azharcs, those are probably backup files - might be safe to delete.
[18:05] <amigamia> should i use wine to do it?
[18:05] <Akkernight> extor, no, it was not a simple question, you're saying you know editors, why don't you go get those editors?
[18:05] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | aclonedsheep
[18:05] <aclonedsheep> beli -- I think that can reinstall grub if it can find the partition but i could be wrong
[18:05] <aclonedsheep> i tried doing it manually but ran into the problem of missing partition
[18:05] <aclonedsheep> erUSUL: Thx
[18:05] <bigrigger> azharcs: your editor saves the original file as filename~  as a safety precaution, yes you can delete it if you want.
[18:06] <azharcs> there are just too many, why does it even happen? Every saved file has it. when i 'ls' it.
[18:06] <blip> extor what extension is that
[18:06] <aclonedsheep> erUSUL: Do you recomend trying one over the other first?
[18:06] <amigamia> gparted is part of ubuntu yes?
[18:06] <extor> Akkernight, just stop asking retarded questions. I told you twice already I need a LINUX fla editor. And quit trying to give legal advice since you arent a lawyer and your info is dead wrong besides.
[18:06] <anium> hi, I got this error when I create my source package : file-size-mismatch-in-changes-file. How can I fix it ?
[18:06] <azharcs> Thanks for replying everyone
[18:06] <blip> flash?
[18:06] <extor> blip, its flash source code...the source that renders .swf files
[18:06] <extor> yeah adobe flash
[18:06] <aclonedsheep> gparted is, im thinking gpart may be something else
[18:06] <erUSUL> aclonedsheep: not really; i've never used them (fortunetly)
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: its in the repos so you could say that
[18:06] <aclonedsheep> gparted doesnt seem to have any recovery features
[18:06] <blip> oh, umm...thats a tough one
[18:06] <amigamia> i am getting it right now actionparsnkp thianks
[18:07] <erUSUL> aclonedsheep: gparted not the same as gpart
[18:07] <LjL> extor: i apologize for some of this channel's users apparently being unable to say "i don't know of any such editors" or refraining from answering entirely.
[18:07] <aclonedsheep> though so
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> !info gpart
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> !info gparted
[18:07] <paradroid> Hi. What is an easy (both CLI and GUI, if possible/available) way to show and change DNS-server(s)?
[18:07] <ChrizC> beli: how would I do it with primary cdrom?
[18:07] <amigamia> btw actoinparsnip i had issue with my swapfile having holes in it. i can recreate it with gparted yes?
[18:07] <beli> ChrizC: so...its hdb....try dd if=/dev/hdb .....
[18:07] <Akkernight> extor, I'm just telling you, so that you won't get sued, just ignore me if that's your interest
[18:07] <extor> LjL, lol....
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: not sure how you get "holes"
[18:07] <ChrizC> beli: hdb? won't that be my second HDD?
[18:07] <extor> Akkernight, you are giving me legal advice without being a lawyer and you are worried about ME being prosecuted?
[18:07] <blip> extor did u see this yet:  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696
[18:08] <beli> ChrizC: thats primary slave....
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: you could make a swap partition on another disk, or resize you current partitions to make a new one
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> amigamia: or just have no swap
[18:08] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: amigamia fragmentation of the swapfile? gparted manages partitions not swapfiles
[18:08] <bdubnc> Hey guys, I need some help.  I am trying to configure a TLP 2844 thermal printer under Linux, Ubuntu to be specific.  Can this be used?
[18:08] <Akkernight> extor, how do you know I ain't a lawyer? And I'm not giving you advice, I'm just warning you
[18:08] <Axan> beli, I got an error msg because my keys files were not protected, I made chmod 0700, I connected the server but it freeze the same way when I typed "top" :(
[18:08] <n8tuserf> paradroid-> you want to what now? use a different dns server?  modify /etc/resolv.conf
[18:08] <mike998> Is there any easy way to manage my network connection from the command line?  I'm using a Dell Studio 1535 with a Broadcomm 43xx card.  I'm using the Network-Manager, but want to use something from command line
[18:08] <LjL> extor, Akkernight: please drop this debate now
[18:08] <amigamia> umm
[18:08] <erUSUL> bdubnc: linuxprinting.org
[18:08] <ChrizC> beli: no i/o error.
[18:08] <pr0fane> How to rezise partition without any data loss?
[18:08] <amigamia> i just recreated my swap. i dont really need a swap do i.
[18:09] <extor> I dont want to debate with anyone...gezuss
[18:09] <beli> ChrizC: does the led blink of your cdrom while doing it?
[18:09] <blip> pr0fane, did u try no-disc
[18:09] <ChrizC> I wasn't checking, 1 sec.
[18:09] <paradroid> n8tuserf:  Yes, I want to (1) see what DNS-server is being used ATM and (2) change that. It should also be easy for someone not familiar with the CLI.
[18:09] <pr0fane> no i didnt
[18:09] <amigamia> brb have to reboot
[18:09] <pr0fane> its an application?
[18:09] <ChrizC> beli: nope.
[18:09] <blip> yea, lemme double check the name
[18:09] <extor> I dont sit in channels waiting for people to ask questions and then butt in and tell them I have no clue what the answer is either. Here's a tip: if you are clueless then keep quiet! And if you are clueless dont debate either especially when its OFF TOPIC
[18:10] <phil_taylor_com> Any initramfs experts in here?
[18:10] <n8tuserf> paradroid-> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[18:10] <beli> Axan: i thought of some buffer problem, but this is unusual...hmmm
[18:10] <pavel_> česky
[18:10] <blip> pr0fane, sry it was test-disk
[18:10] <erUSUL> !ck
[18:10] <erUSUL> !ch
[18:10] <blip> its available for all os
[18:11] <pavel_> mluví tu někdo česky?
[18:11] <pr0fane> Can i rezise a partition where windows is installed?
[18:11] <Axan> beli, It is possible that the server remember the MAC adress used with my keys and then crash the connection ?
[18:11] <genii> !cz
[18:11] <blip> pr0fane, yes i just did it
[18:11] <erUSUL> genii: XD
[18:11] <pr0fane> thx man
[18:11] <n8tuserf> pr0fane-> yes, make sure it has shutdown properly
[18:11] <blip> np
[18:11] <genii> erUSUL:  :)
[18:11] <blip> extor, did that app help?
[18:12] <extor> blip, sorry which app?
[18:12] <blip> extor, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23696
[18:12] <extor> Oh that was for me..lemme check it
[18:13] <extor> blip looks good...even though its last updated 2006 I am going to check it out thanks
[18:13] <beli> Axan: sshd does not allow ip switching....anything else should be fine
[18:13] <blip> np
[18:13] <beli> Axan: another idea is bad checksums....
[18:13] <Axan> bad checksums ?
[18:13] <beli> Axan: you should run a sniffer and see whats going on...or use strace on the client
[18:13] <beli> Axan: yes, tcp checksum errors
[18:14] <Axan> mm.. by the way, where can I found error messages from the server ? Any log file ? where ?
[18:14] <Axan> beli, but.. i'm on 100Mb lan.. how can I have tcp checksums errors ?
[18:15] <erUSUL> !pm | lupin
[18:15] <AJC_Z0> Axan: See /etc/syslog.conf and the syslog pages in the manual
[18:15] <beli> Axan: the speed has nothing todo with errors...
[18:16] <beli> Axan: broken config, broken tcp stack, broken hardware....
[18:16] <A-KO> How do I check the configure options for a program in the repository? In this case, the repo does not have the most up-to-date version of a software package I need. The software dev hasn't released a .deb file, either. So I'm looking to try and mimic the options used as closely as possible for installing manually. I've read on using checkinstall to create a .deb, but I still need the configure options. I'm on Ubuntu 8.10
[18:16] <beli> Axan: check syslog and daemon.log
[18:16] <LjL> A-KO: are you sure the version you need might not be in Jaunty?
[18:16] <AJC_Z0> Axan: There is also a GUI tool - gnome-system-log - for viewing and watching logs
[18:17] <A-KO> LjL: I need proftpd 1.3.2 not 1.3.1 which gets installed on 8.10...
[18:18] <LjL> A-KO: pity, even Jaunty only has 1.3.1. well, "apt-get source proftpd" will download the source code to the current directory, then you can check the compile options there. you could probably even substitute that tree with the 1.3.2 source and manage to create a working .deb from that
[18:18] <A-KO> alright, I kind of figured that's what I'll have to do. Thanks..
[18:18] <Axan> !kick lupin
[18:19] <A-KO> will apt-get source proftpd download to the current directory?
[18:19] <saisai> Whats the name of the ubuntu channel where u can chat about random stuff?
[18:19] <LjL> Axan: what's the issue?
[18:19] <keepsake> !offtopic | saisai
[18:19] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> does anyone know why java apps seem not to account for DST?  i have a java app, and when i look at hte debugging console it's off by an hour
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> so is this particular apps
[18:20] <stoic_> I need to enable squashfs 1.0 support to mount an image, there are no install packages for squashfs 1.x and there is no kernel patches that I can find for my kernel version, Im on day 3 of this endeavor and im pretty frustrated, can anyone help ? maybe theres a way to enable 1.0 support in later versions that im unaware of, any help would be greatly appreciated
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> im not sure if its all java apps or just this one
[18:20] <LjL> A-KO: yes
[18:20] <FuriousGeorge> whats a small java gui app i can install to verify
[18:21] <genii> azureus?
[18:21] <FuriousGeorge> genii: thanks
[18:21] <beli> stoic_: mount isoimage /mnt/destination -t squashfs -o loop
[18:22] <stoic_> beli: I know how to mount an image but squashfs is not backwards compatable
[18:22] <nigtv> hello
[18:23] <bin10101> in 64bit 8.10, how do you get 32 bit compatibility?
[18:23] <beli> stoic_: ah 1.x ic
[18:23] <stoic_> beli: yea :(
[18:23] <beli> stoic_: so you need to prepare your own kernel module or build your own kernel
[18:23] <ricn> does anyone know how I can setup postfix or any other smtp server to just make it simple to just send e-mail to my gmail account?
[18:23] <beli> stoic_: or boot an old live distro with 1.x support and convert it
[18:24] <FuriousGeorge> genii: azureus doesnt seem to trigger the console
[18:24] <stoic_> beli: preparing my own kernel is a bit over my head, any good rescources you could point me to ?
[18:24] <nigtv> i am currently installing xubuntu 7.10 onto a small workstation computer, and i could install ubuntu 7.10, or any other version if needed. I wanted to put snes9x (or zsnes, really), and have it boot DIRECTLY into that emulator, i have searched around all over, tried editing all of the bashrc and bashprofile files, changing init.d, etc, and havent gotten anything to work
[18:24] <nigtv> i really need someone to help me because i am totally lost now
[18:25] <mike998> Is there any easy way to manage my network connection from the command line?  I'm using a Dell Studio 1535 with a Broadcomm 43xx card.  I'm using the Network-Manager, but want to use something from command line
[18:25] <n4> whats channel of ubuntu in brazilian language?
[18:25] <blip> ricn, u there?
[18:25] <A-KO> LjL: Are there any URLs to more documentation on how to do what I'm trying to do? I'm reading a bunch of files in the /debian subdir of the source package, which appears to include all the options for placing files. I don't necessarily want to dump the 1.3.2 sources into the 1.3.1 tree and install that because the 1.3.1 source seems to include a bunch of patches, which I assume may not be compatible or might overwrite some things in 1.3.2.
[18:25] <nigtv> mike998: yes
[18:25] <ricn> blip: yes
[18:25] <nigtv> mike998: iwconfig (card) essid (network id) key (key)
[18:25] <blip> ricn:  http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html  <---how-to for postfix forwarding
[18:25] <quibbler> !br | n4
[18:25] <ricn> blip: thanks
[18:25] <LjL> A-KO: it's not entirely easy, perhaps you might just go with checkinstall
[18:25] <blip> np
[18:26] <LjL> !packaging > A-KO    (A-KO, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:26] <nigtv> mike998: on my computer i would use iwconfig eth1 essid Stewart, and the type "dhclient eth1" to get an ip
[18:26] <n4> thanks
[18:26] <beli> stoic_: do you have squashfs 3.x enabled?
[18:26] <nigtv> mike998: you might have to type dhclient (device) to make it work, after you type the iwconfig command
[18:26] <stoic_> beli: yes
[18:26] <blip> nigtv, why is your wireliess eth1?
[18:26] <beli> stoic_: checkout the unsquashfs tool....it can do 1.x
[18:27] <nigtv> blip: not really sure, it was built into this lappy, so i think that might be it
[18:27] <A-KO> well LjL, I would go with that but I'm not sure where to look for the various configure options so things get installed....I guess it doesn't matter though much if checkinstall keeps track of things? Because if it makes a .deb I'll be able to uninstall it later no matter where it is, correct?
[18:27] <nigtv> on all of my other comps its been wlan0, always, however
[18:27] <blip> nigtv, thats usually a slackware wifi interface
[18:27] <blip> strange..
[18:27] <nigtv> yea
[18:27] <beli> stoic_: check out the squashfs howto on tldp
[18:27] <stoic_> beli: ok so unsquash can do 1.x, will I be able to squash back to 1.x , im not sure if 2.x will work
[18:27] <genii> FuriousGeorge: Probably the app needs something like user.timezone=DST        or so to know the offset
[18:27] <beli> stoic_: hold a copy? ;)
[18:27] <blip> mike998, if you want to make ur wifi easy....d/l wicd
[18:28] <nigtv> you have any idea on my question? im trying to get a comp to boot DIRECTLY INTO an snes emulator, and ive tried alot of things and none work
[18:28] <nigtv> ive tried editing a ton of files, and none do anything
[18:28] <blip> nigtv, ur in ubuntu?
[18:28] <LjL> nigtv: does the emulator require X?
[18:28]  * beli is off...cu folks
[18:28] <nigtv> well, i can use anything really blip
[18:28] <nigtv> i have xubuntu 7.10 on there now
[18:28] <nigtv> because its a small workstation comp
[18:28] <blip> nigtv, in ubuntu all u have to do is add a session
[18:29] <nigtv> LjL: i would assume so, its either snes9x or zsnes
[18:29] <nigtv> blip: i tried that, i close it, reboot, and nothing happens, i go back into the menu and what i added is gone
[18:29] <blip> ??
[18:29] <blip> okay
[18:29] <LjL> A-KO: yes, you should be able to safely uninstall stuff made by checkinstall - if it gets installed properly in the first place (which it generally does). the configure options are in debian/rules, look for CONF_ARGS
[18:30] <nigtv> i would assume the process would be about the same with ubuntu or xubuntu, i have xu because its a small comp, but i can use ANYTHING really, if it makes it easier
[18:31] <nigtv> i tried editing the bashrc files
[18:31] <A-KO> sweet LjL thanks for that
[18:31] <nigtv> and adding the init.d rc local
[18:31] <kaddi> how do i turn off those annyoing popups kopete makes everytime somebody writes me an answer? -.-
[18:31] <LjL> nigtv: rc.local or bashrc won't work, because they have to do with command-line programs, not really X
[18:32] <nigtv> what i really need is like, well i can set it up to be autologin, then have, after that, it execute the command snes9x, or zsnes, and then go fullscreen
[18:32] <nigtv> i believe both of those emulators have commands to make them start fullscreen as well
[18:33] <jlmones> my comp is saying i have missing packages to run firefox
[18:33] <nigtv> so if i can have it, after login, execute a terminal command and go directly into that as fullscreen, id be set
[18:33] <blip> nigtv, u there
[18:33] <nigtv> yes
[18:33] <blip> nigtv:  ~/.config/autostart
[18:33] <blip> remove that
[18:34] <LjL> nigtv: tried adding it to your user's ~/.xsession?
[18:34] <nigtv> blip: well im reinstalling xubuntu right now
[18:34] <blip> okay
[18:34] <nigtv> i can write these down though
[18:34] <stoic_> when trying to extract a squashfs image I get sqlzma_un: ZLIB data error, does this mean I need to enable lzma support ?
[18:34] <blip> nigtv, if it happens again, remove that file and then add it through sessions again
[18:34] <mark_> how do i shutdown an ubuntu system from userland?  I need to do it from my own script.  How does gnome do it?
[18:34] <nigtv> LjL: well i went into sessions, and then added the program from /usr/lib
[18:34] <jlmones> deos anyone know packages needed?
[18:34] <blip> usr/lib??
[18:35] <blip> nigtv, usr/bin
[18:35] <nigtv> blip: can you pm that to me so it doesnt scroll into oblivion
[18:35] <blip> lol
[18:36] <LjL> nigtv: that's not the same thing, although sessions should work
[18:36] <nigtv> whats not the same
[18:37] <nigtv> jlmones: well if you are okay with using the version in the repositories, you could just 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get check', and if that shows no broken dependencies, i would just 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[18:38] <LjL> nigtv: adding stuff to your ~/.xsession is not the same as adding it to sessions.
[18:38] <nigtv> just sudo apt-get firefox SHOULD check for dependencies, but you might have to update the list first, do you know how/where to enter those commands?
[18:38] <nigtv> LjL: well would adding something there cause it do what i want it to do
[18:38] <runpain2> problem i installed kubuntu 7.10 on my laptop cause i dont like the 8.10 the kde4 i dont like kde 3 is fine with me but my login screen  I use is with login manager where i can choose my background well i have tried and tried yet the back ground wont show up just the color i choose what can i do to fix this
[18:38] <LjL> nigtv: i suspect so
[18:39] <LjL> nigtv: although XFCE will not start at all, if i'm not mistaken. only the emulator should start.
[18:39] <nigtv> so what just nano that or...
[18:39] <LjL> yeah
[18:39] <nigtv> hmm
[18:39] <nigtv> so if it requires X, that wouldnt work?
[18:39] <jlmones> just says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:39] <jlmones> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:39] <blip> the emulator requires an x server
[18:39] <LjL> nigtv: i said that XFCE won't start, not that X won't start
[18:39] <LjL> (otherwise why would the file be called .xsession?)
[18:40] <Arkain> Has anyone here been hearing about memory-leak problems in 8.10 amd64?
[18:40] <LjL> jlmones: is another process using it?
[18:40] <amigamia> i just cannot fix this damn swapfile problem.
[18:40] <amigamia> damnit
[18:40] <blip> amigamia, ?
[18:40] <amigamia> i suppose i will have to format the whole drive
[18:40] <nigtv> okay cool, well im still very new to ubuntu, and linux in general, i just like diving head first into things to figure them out
[18:40] <amigamia> it hangs on swapfile during init
[18:40] <nigtv> so i dont know a whole lot in case you didnt notice ;)
[18:41] <amigamia> i alt-ctrl-del and kill it on startup
[18:41] <amigamia> i used gparted to delete the swap i rebuilt it etc..
[18:41] <amigamia> it says swapon swapfile has holes
[18:41] <amigamia> i am so frustrated with it.
[18:41] <LjL> !pm | jlmones
[18:41] <FloodBot2> amigamia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <nigtv> i just am extremely attracted to running linux command line operating systems, ubuntu mainly
[18:41] <blip> amigamia, boot into a live cd/usb and scan the drive for errors
[18:41] <LjL> jlmones: if you're *sure* no other package manager is running, then try this
[18:41] <LjL> !adeptfix | jlmones
[18:41] <amigamia> ok blip
[18:41] <amigamia> will try thank you.
[18:42] <blip> amigamia, yea u dont ever have to format
[18:42] <blip> amigamia, if that doesnt work something else will
[18:42] <blip> amigamia, its not windows
[18:42] <jlmones> thnx ill try it
[18:42] <amigamia> i know blip...
[18:43] <amigamia> thanks
[18:43] <amigamia> now i have to find a live cd bbiab chao
[18:43] <nigtv> ciao*
[18:43] <Arkain> I just recently upgraded to Intrepid amd64 and now I'm getting serious memory leak problems. Depending on the largest single chunk of memory a program allocates, the system starts eating its own memory until it eventually consumes all swap space and the system grinds to a halt.
[18:43] <dft> amigamia: how much ram do you have?
[18:43] <dft> doh, too late
[18:44] <blip> nigtv, you got that pm?
[18:44] <nigtv> yea, thx
[18:44] <dft> he could have just run without swap
[18:44] <blip> k closing it
[18:44] <tobberoth> I want to remove all the packages kde-core depends on... can this easily be done in apt?
[18:44] <nigtv> ill try it out in just a sizecond here, fresh install xubuntu, here i come to mess you up!
[18:44] <blip> lol
[18:44] <Picassotamus> !apt
[18:44] <verma_ii> hello all, any gstreamer experts out here? I am having trouble with this http://www.pastie.org/418996
[18:45] <LjL> tobberoth: uh, just "apt-cache show kde-code | grep Depend", copy and paste into "apt-get remove", i guess?
[18:45] <pronto> can someone take a look at this screenshot and tell me what are all those things with high IO http://pronto185.com/linux/screens/other/03_17_09_14:41:54window.png  (804x1020pizels 1208KB)
[18:46] <Dreamglider> How can i make a bootable ophcrack usb flash in ubuntu, i can only find ways to do it in windows !
[18:46] <raven> hi everyone
[18:46] <blip> Dreamglider, ophcrack?
[18:46] <nigtv> blip: you know, and noob question btw, if i dont have internet on that other comp, could i just apt-get -d snes9x, then move the packages over and unpack them on there? or is there an easier way....
[18:46] <LjL> !offline | nigtv
[18:46] <nigtv> i can always just use the tar.gz on the site but i like apt-get
[18:47] <blip> nigtv, are they on the same network?
[18:47] <Arkain> where do I go to get help with an ubuntu kernel problem?
[18:47] <Dreamglider> blip: yes ophcrack
[18:47] <nigtv> well one isnt on a network at all
[18:47] <nigtv> LjL: well dont i need a gui to use synaptic in that way
[18:47] <nigtv> i dont have the window system on here
[18:47] <nigtv> just cli
[18:47] <raven> i need to convert a MPEGTS stream (DVB) MPEGPS with ffmpeg but it seems that i have to select the PID or something else but how? - who can help me?
[18:47] <LjL> nigtv: yes, or you can use apt.alturl.com
[18:47] <blip> nigtv, thats fine
[18:48] <nigtv> okay so apt-get install -d snes9x?
[18:48] <nigtv> sorry if im slow, was up all night
[18:48] <blip> nigtv, that will install it on ur machine
[18:48] <nigtv> hmm
[18:49] <LjL> blip: no it won't
[18:49] <blip> nigtv, oh -d
[18:49] <nigtv> well, lemme see i might still have the gui on here, ill try to boot into that
[18:49] <nigtv> blip: yea but then id have to burn those, itd be a pain, ill just use the gui thing
[18:49] <raven> i need to convert a MPEGTS stream (DVB) MPEGPS with ffmpeg but it seems that i have to select the PID or something else but how? - who can help me?
[18:49] <aijnknknj> is there any malware that can infect ubuntu?
[18:49] <blip> Dreamglider, y dont u just use a distro that has that installed
[18:50] <nigtv> wait im staying here
[18:50] <LjL> aijnknknj: yes
[18:50] <Dreamglider> blip: like what ?
[18:50] <LjL> aijnknknj: you'll be quite safe if you just install stuff from the ubuntu repositories
[18:51] <blip> Dreamglider, nubuntu
[18:51] <aijnknknj> well i have data on 3 windows xp machines that i need to salvage and mthey are all trojaned and have viruses
[18:51] <LjL> aijnknknj: you also shouldn't install servers of any kind unless you have a firewall and know what you're doing
[18:51] <nigtv> aijnknknj: alternatively, you could just set up wine and open up windows viruses with that ;)
[18:51] <BartoN-> hi guys ! anybody that can help with a usb disk problem? I just can't enter it , I have done sudo fdisk -l
[18:51] <LjL> aijnknknj: Windows viruses and trojans won't do anything to Ubuntu
[18:51] <blip> all you need is a gig or two usb stick to have a live boot, Dreamglider
[18:52] <nigtv> dont do that, by the way
[18:52] <aijnknknj> well i wanna see what happens im gonna do it with a knoppix cd
[18:52] <blip> BartoN-, do u want to partition it?
[18:52] <geronimo9> javascript is still a vector on Linux or unix.
[18:53] <Dreamglider> blip: how do i get it on a usb flash and make it bootable ?
[18:53] <LjL> aijnknknj: no Windows malware will infect either Knoppix or Ubuntu.
[18:53] <ZenMasta> can someone help me retrieve files from a hard drive using ubuntu live cd?
[18:53] <nigtv> ZenMasta: what os in on the harddrive
[18:53] <blip> Dreamglider, hold on i forget
[18:53] <nigtv> is on*
[18:53] <ZenMasta> os on the hd is fedora 3
[18:53] <BartoN-> blip no I just want to open it , so I can use the file that usb disk , when I use sudo fdisk -l I get : Disk /dev/sdb: 16.1 GB, 16131293184 bytes
[18:53] <nigtv> what filesystem
[18:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ZenMasta, wow thats old
[18:54] <aijnknknj> um last time i had linux on my desktop it wouldnt see my ntfs partitions and couldnt mount them. can you mount ntfs in linux (i had knoppix cd like 3 years ag0
[18:54] <ZenMasta> nigtv I'm not sure what file system
[18:54] <nigtv> because you should just be able to open up a browser, and it will show it on the tree view there, does it not show up?
[18:54] <LjL> aijnknknj: yes you can
[18:54] <nigtv> aijnknknj: i use mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hd1 /media/mount1 -o force, and it works fine
[18:54] <macman> .. when i boot into linux normally and i start gparted it says swap i off .. how do i make it so it is on all the time or do i need it on all the time ?
[18:54] <ZenMasta> nigtv all I see in computer - file browser is "/boot" "cdrom" "filesystem" and my usbflash key
[18:55] <nigtv> did you boot into the whole window system?
[18:55] <bote79> join #ubuntu-es
[18:55] <aijnknknj> thers a tutorial somewhere on how to make bootable usb flash drive i forgot the name thbough
[18:55] <nigtv> if you open some kind of browser, and then look on the left, there should be a graphical list of all media with icons
[18:55] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: run the Ubuntu Live CD and mount the disk and copy the files to an other harddisk :)
[18:55] <aijnknknj> ok thanks
[18:55] <blip> Dreamglider, this is a decent tutorial... http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[18:56] <ZenMasta> nigtv it shows the same as I just told you but it also lists "desktop" "trash" and documents music etc
[18:56] <nigtv> ZenMasta: it will say something like "45gb volume", or something along those lines, most likely
[18:56] <blip> Dreamglider, i think its easier to just burn the iso onto a disc and then boot into it and install to live usb that way
[18:56] <nigtv> hmm
[18:57] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider i can't install the live cd because I need to retrieve files from the hd first
[18:57] <BartoN-> anyone that can help ? I cant enter my usb portable disk in ubuntu ? I can see it but I cant enter it
[18:57] <nigtv> BartoN-: you might have to mount it
[18:57] <blip> BartoN-, mount it
[18:57] <nigtv> yea
[18:57] <blip> yea
[18:57] <ZenMasta> nigtv there is nothing like that, in the places pane
[18:57] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: you dont install anything just run the live session :)
[18:57] <BartoN-> sudo fdisk -l I get : Disk /dev/sdb: 16.1 GB, 16131293184 bytes  How do i do this ?
[18:57] <macman> should swap be on whenever i boot into linux or off ?
[18:57] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider I am using the live cd right now
[18:57] <nigtv> BartoN-: eject it, take it out, and then open up a terminal, plug in back in, and type "dmesg | tail"
[18:58] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta:  cant you mount the disk ?
[18:58] <blip> BartoN-, mkdir /media/usb
[18:58] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider I don't know how but I have a terminal open
[18:58] <blip> BartoN-, mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[18:58] <nigtv> ZenMasta: use mount
[18:58] <nigtv> like
[18:58] <BartoN-> blip , nigtv  thnx guys will try that
[18:58] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: sudo fdisk -l
[18:59] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: does that list the disk ?
[18:59] <nigtv> mount -t (type) /dev/(XXX#) /media/mount -o force
[18:59] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider yes I do see the hard drive when I do that command...
[18:59] <fmagno> When I pass the mouse over the top "window menu" where the minimize, maximize and close buttons are, the color of the window menu changes and i stop seeing the buttons well. Does anyone know the solution for this problem?
[19:00] <Spectre> hi, I set up turnnig on numlock after start kubuntu.... but... numlock works, but numlock's LED doesn't light... any idea?
[19:00] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider Disk /dev/sda: 20.0 GB other info etc
[19:00] <nigtv> you might have to mkdir /media/mount, if you do the fdisk -l it should tell you what the -t (type) is, and what the /dev/XXX# is
[19:00] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: can you pastebin the output ?
[19:00] <ZenMasta> nigtv so, mount -t /dev/sda
[19:00] <nigtv> no, you need the type for -t
[19:00] <blip> ZenMasta, how many partitions are on that drive?
[19:00] <nigtv> pastebin it^
[19:00] <BartoN-> blip then it say : mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:00] <Awausagi> I got an issue running programs / games through wine. Mainly [err:module:attack_process_dlls "OPENGL32.dll" failed to initialize]
[19:00] <ZenMasta> blip it has one partition
[19:01] <blip> sda1
[19:01] <blip> sda is the whole drive
[19:01] <blip> 1 is the partition
[19:01] <blip> BartoN-, did u make the directory
[19:01] <ZenMasta> nigtv I'm not command prompt savvy so I dont know what type
[19:01] <nigtv> yea, and there is a way to make it auto
[19:01] <BartoN-> yes usb is there under /media
[19:01] <nigtv> i just dont know
[19:01] <nigtv> it
[19:01] <nigtv> uhm
[19:01] <nigtv> ZenMasta: lemme check that okay? ill brb
[19:02] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: what fs is on the disk ?
[19:02] <blip> BartoN-, pm...
[19:02] <ZenMasta> DreamThief I would assume ext3
[19:03] <ZenMasta> Dreamglideri think it is ext3
[19:03] <bastl> hi anyone in here using stunnel?
[19:03] <bagot> When I pass the mouse over the top "window menu" where the minimize, maximize and close buttons are, the color of the window menu changes and i stop seeing the buttons well. Does anyone know the solution for this problem?
[19:03] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: try "sudo mount -a"
[19:03] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider I would copy and past but I don't know how because I am VNc'd into the live cd so I can chat using irc on my computer
[19:04] <nigtv> ZenMasta: sorry if you have already done this, what is listed in the line of /dev/sda if you fdisk -ls
[19:04] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider sudo mount -a didn't return an error but it didnt seem to do anything either
[19:04] <bastl> i wondering why whenever i use /etc/init.d/stunnel4 start it not just starts one stunnelprocess under user stunnel4 it additionally starts 4 stunnel processes with root permissions
[19:04] <Akkernight> How was it I set the visual effects of Ubuntu to high?
[19:04] <nigtv> it should say linux, at the end, if its fedora
[19:04] <Dreamglider> brb
[19:05] <ZenMasta> nigtv there are two sections when I do sudo fdisk -l the first one says Disk /dev/sda: 20GB and sector info etc
[19:05] <ZenMasta> nigtv the secont section says Device Boot Start End ID System etc
[19:05] <ZenMasta> and there are 2 entrie
[19:05] <ZenMasta> *entries
[19:06] <JeroenTB> anyone know a nice prog for transcoding some movie to another and make 16:9 movies 4:3 with borders instead of stretching ?
[19:06] <ZenMasta> /dev/sda1 * (start) 1 (end) 13, (blocks) 104391 (id) 83 (system) linux
[19:07] <Awausagi> Wonder if anyone got knowledge of how to get programs using opengl, to run on Wine.
[19:07] <ZenMasta> the second entry says: /dev/sda2, (start) 14, (end) 2434, (blocks) 19446682+ , (ID) 8e (system) Linux LVM
[19:07] <b4chip> hi there...how can i see what ports i have opened on my ubuntu machine
[19:08] <JeroenTB> lsof -Pni
[19:08] <JeroenTB> shows all open ports and processes that use them
[19:08] <gmap> why cant i install vditools and virtual box on the same machine. when I install one package the other one is removed.
[19:08] <ZenMasta> nigtv yeah under system it says linux
[19:09] <b4chip> JeroenTB: many thx...
[19:09] <nigtv> ZenMasta: well if you think that it is ext3
[19:09] <JeroenTB> but lsof isn't installed standard, you have to install the package
[19:09] <JeroenTB> yqw
[19:09] <b4chip> I'm comming from Windows..how are u guys learn those comands?
[19:09] <kaddi> how do i turn off those annyoing popups kopete makes everytime somebody writes me an answer? -.-
[19:09] <JeroenTB> 10yrs of experience
[19:09] <dionysian> is there a howto on getting a canon ip2600 to work in (x)ubuntu?
[19:09] <nigtv> i would sudo mkdir /media/mountusb and then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/mountusb -o force
[19:09] <ZenMasta> nigtv I'll post a screenshot to zoho notebook so you can see what it says
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> b4chip: experience, the ones yu see in here are hugely common so you pick those up quick
[19:10] <nigtv> ZenMasta: i dont have a gui, i cant open images
[19:10] <b4chip> many thx guys,
[19:10] <JeroenTB> brb
[19:10] <freeatmind> #ubuntu-br
[19:11] <freeatmind> join #ubuntu-br
[19:11] <LjL> freeatmind: /join #ubuntu-br
[19:11] <nigtv> ZenMasta: i found the auto command
[19:11] <freeatmind> tanks
[19:11] <freeatmind> ;)
[19:11] <nigtv> first "sudo mkdir /media/mountusb" then "sudo mount -t autofs /dev/sda1 /media/mountusb -o force"
[19:12] <salah> Does Ubuntu support HD audio?
[19:12] <blom1> i had ubuntu and vista installed on the first physical hard drive with grub, then i installed windows xp on the second physical hd, now i cannot see the grub menu and my computer automatically loads the xp, please help
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> nigtv: if you get rid ot '  "then"  '   and put && you can issue both commands on one line
[19:13] <A-KO> blom1: You need to reinstall grub into the MBR
[19:13] <keepsake> blom1: You need to reinstall the grub bootloader.
[19:13] <sprinkmeier> !grub | blom1
[19:13] <tobberoth> blom1: In all probability, grub was removed by win XP. reinstall it using a live CD
[19:13] <thierry_> blom1 : search google, there are tutorial on this
[19:13] <keepsake> blom1: http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[19:13] <ZenMasta> http://notebook.zoho.com/nb/public/zenmasta/book/192119000000020249
[19:14] <keres> what is the task-manager equivelant to linux
[19:14] <hayes> there is weird static coming out of my speakers. can some one help me?
[19:14] <blom1> thanks guys, i'll look at the links..
[19:14] <nigtv> ActionParsnip: yea, i just thought he might have already made the dir, i dunno
[19:14] <macman> i put my swap in fstab but it isn't mounting .. any ideas ?
[19:14] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider and Nigtv can you check that url
[19:14] <hayes> keres: top
[19:14] <nigtv> ZenMasta: did you see the command up there ^
[19:15] <hayes> keres: top
[19:15] <hayes> there is weird static coming out of my speakers. can some one help me?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> nigtv: indeed but you can string commands together with &&
[19:15] <Nalf> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 9442 -- Does that meant I can't get a driver for it?
[19:15] <ZenMasta> nigtv  sudo mount -t autofs /dev/sda1 /media/mountusb -o force
[19:15] <nigtv> yes
[19:15] <nigtv> after you have mkdir /media/mountusb
[19:15] <ZenMasta> okay let me try that (fyi the usb flash drive auto mounted and I see it in the file borwser
[19:15] <nigtv> oh cool
[19:16] <sprinkmeier> !sound | hayes
[19:16] <b4chip> can i have GUI on ssh conection?
[19:16] <nigtv> argh okay i just installed xubuntu on the other comp, first boot, and every time i open terminal it logs me out and goes to the login screen
[19:16] <nigtv> any idea what is up with that?
[19:16] <sprinkmeier> b4chip, yes, it's calles "x tunneling".: "ssh -X user@host xterm"
[19:17] <b4chip> many thx for the keyword:)
[19:18] <sprinkmeier> nigtv, how are you opening the terminal? have you customised your .bashrc (and other) startup files?
[19:18] <Nalf> According to the website Hardy should recognize my graphics card and allow me to enable the restricted drivers in the hardware manager. It doesn't. Is there any way I can get around this?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> b4chip: as long as you have x libs installed, with windows you need xming installing and running
[19:18] <nigtv> sprinkmeier: no this is the first boot, and im just going to apps accesories
[19:18] <b4chip> i', from windows now, and i;m connected to a ubuntu station (LAN) using ssh. what do to to have x11 frum pussy
[19:18] <ZenMasta> nigtv I ran both of those commands and I did find the directory it created but it doesn't seem to have mounted the hard drive to that path
[19:18] <b4chip> *putty
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[19:18] <sebsebseb> what's the best Ubuntu version for EEPC?   it's  easypeasy yes?
[19:19] <nigtv> ZenMasta: you may need to check that the harddrive is infact at /dev/sda, it might be sdb or hda or any other things
[19:19] <sprinkmeier> b4chip, you need to run an X server on windows, or start a VLC session on Linux and the VLC client on windows.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> you need to install xming and have it running, yoou can then run x apps
[19:19] <sprinkmeier> !vlc | b4chip
[19:19] <ZenMasta> look at the url to my zoho notebook, I took a screenshot
[19:19] <sebsebseb> !easypeasy
[19:19] <nigtv> sprinkmeier: i havent ever seen a comp do this before
[19:19] <sprinkmeier> nigtv, do any of the other things on the menu work?
[19:19] <tinkerdom> I have a firewall problem ---- I build the IP tables using firestarter - it's blocking the Windows computers from seeing the Samba shares until after I do an iptables -L. After that it works fine.
[19:19] <nigtv> yea, they all work
[19:20] <sprinkmeier> !vnc | b4chip
[19:20] <nigtv> argh, im just going to install ubuntu, i dont like xubuntu anyways
[19:20] <sprinkmeier> b4chip, sorry, wrong TLA :-)
[19:20] <nigtv> oh weird the cd drive isnt mounted either, yea, this install is botched, oh well
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> nigtv: could install lxde
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> nigtv: if xubuntu doesnt float your boat
[19:21] <nigtv> eh, dont really want it, id rather install the whole os again
[19:21] <Akkernight> how did I set the Ubuntu visuals to high
[19:21] <nigtv> no problem with xubuntu, i just dont need it, this comp isnt that old or low resource anyways
[19:21] <nigtv> it runs gutsy ubuntu just fine
[19:21] <teimu> hi <ubuntu. <im <having <this <wierd <problem <as <you <can <see. <spaces <have <a << <appended <and <my <p's <also <have <tab <with <them. <anyone <know <what <i <can <do?
[19:21] <elli222> lol
[19:22] <elli222> err
[19:22] <dan-ubuntu> lol
[19:22] <elli222> get a new keyboard?
[19:22] <teimu> i've <tried <changing <keyboard <layout. <no <go
[19:22] <nigtv> haha
[19:22] <dan-ubuntu> did you apply system wide?
[19:22] <elli222> he left
[19:22] <Appocc> hi
[19:22] <dan-ubuntu> hey appocc
[19:22] <dan-ubuntu> again
[19:23] <Appocc> could anybody help me for a while.. will be quick.. about networks... wireless
[19:23] <Nalf> Aww, Ljl.. I thought that was funny.
[19:23] <Appocc> hi dan-ubuntu , how are u??
[19:23] <JeroenTB> b4chip: easiest to do if you're not familiar with X on windows is to do a full cygwin install (www.cygwin.com), you'll get some startmenu entries with a X server you can launch, after launching the X server start a ssh to your linux box and type : export DISPLAY=<ip from your windows box>:0.0 && xterm &
[19:23] <Appocc> remeber me?
[19:23] <Nalf> !wireless
[19:23] <LjL> Nalf: i've seen it too many times before
[19:23] <nigtv> Appocc: yea only if its quick tho
[19:23] <kesiode> I'm trying to install the newer version of pidgin on intrepid and getting this error : You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[19:23] <Appocc> the problem is..
[19:23] <JeroenTB> if all went well an xterm should popup on your windoze box
[19:23] <Nalf> Ljl: Gotcha.
[19:23] <Appocc> now i can connect by ethernet... and its working for real
[19:23] <nigtv> someone refresh my memory, how do i just install and not boot into the live cd on a ubuntu cd again?
[19:23] <teimu2> hey...this.really.isn't.a.joke.please.dont.kick.me.anyone.ever.hear.of.this.problem
[19:23] <Appocc> but in wireless i can always connect, but mos of time i cant browse anything
[19:24] <JeroenTB> from there you can start any X proces you like showing up on your windows but actually running on your linux box
[19:24] <dan-ubuntu> apple bluetooth aluminium keyboard > 'failed pairing'> help?
[19:24] <LjL> teimu2: actually yes, yes i did, it's called "trolling"
[19:24] <Appocc> and both connections cant resolve dhcp...
[19:24] <crdlb> kesiode: apt-get build-dep pidgin
[19:24] <nigtv> Appocc: did you try dhclient (device) ?
[19:24] <nigtv> i have to do that to make mine work, even if it says im connected
[19:24] <Appocc> dhclient returns No DHCPOFFERS
[19:24] <crdlb> kesiode: that'll install everything needed to build pidgin (excluding any new deps in the newer version)
[19:24] <nigtv> weird
[19:25] <teimu2> wow.really?you.think.this.would.not.be.possible?
[19:25] <nigtv> whats the command to just install no live cd on ubuntu again?
[19:25] <elli222> nigtv, i sent you a message...
[19:25] <dan-ubuntu> hey back Appocc , im good :)
[19:25] <keepsake> nigtv: There should be an option to just install when you boot the CD.
[19:25] <nigtv> oh?
[19:25] <kesiode> crdlb, thanks
[19:25] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, nice
[19:25] <nigtv> elli222: what terminal?
[19:25] <nigtv> what makes you think i have a terminal?
[19:25] <elli222> any
[19:25] <nigtv> well, i dont have one
[19:26] <dan-ubuntu> apple remote with ubuntu guys?
[19:26] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, did u read y description of the problem??
[19:26] <nigtv> i need to know on the menu that comes up with the cd
[19:26] <dan-ubuntu> yea i did Appocc
[19:26] <saaber> hi everybody
[19:26] <keepsake> nigtv: Choose "Install Ubuntu"?
[19:26] <keepsake> nigtv: Instead of "Try Ubuntu..."
[19:26] <nigtv> no option for that
[19:26] <nigtv> just "start or install ubuntu"
[19:26] <teimu2> LjL.may.i.message.you?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: thats way complicated. install and run xming, install putty, set putty to accept frowarded x and do what you gotta do
[19:27] <LjL> teimu2: no
[19:27] <LjL> teimu2: as i'm going to dinner
[19:27] <eth01> nigtv: memtest?
[19:27] <xangua> hi, does someone here uses Easystroke ¿?
[19:27] <keepsake> nigtv: Download the alternate version of the ISO file
[19:27] <nigtv> blah
[19:27] <nigtv> ill just boot into live cd
[19:27] <keepsake> nigtv: The alternate does not have the Live Boot option.
[19:27] <saaber> how is it possible to startup programs/scripts in ubuntu automatically?
[19:27] <nigtv> its already been longer than it would have taken to boot anyways
[19:27] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: that does not set the display and all, and is mingw that easy to find ?!? i found cygwin more userfriendly
[19:27] <nigtv> saaber: same thing i came here to find out
[19:28] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, so.. can u help me??? lol
[19:28] <linux_> !server irc.yu-irc.net
[19:28] <dan-ubuntu> anyone here have a macbook? able to give advice on it?
[19:28] <DoYouKnow> saaber, there are two things designed to do that, Sessions and services. Both are under the system menu
[19:28] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, i got a "mac book"
[19:28] <dan-ubuntu> Appocc, what's the problem?
[19:28] <Akkernight> I hear rumours about Ubuntu not being able to get virus', what if I went to all porn sites on the internet, wouldn't I get virus infected?
[19:28] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, actually is a hackintosh lol
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: it gives an x server to run forwarded apps, what more do you want?
[19:28] <JeroenTB> dan-ubuntu: yeah, don't buy it ;) they're worse than ms :D
[19:28] <JeroenTB> having a userfriendly environment ActionParsnip
[19:29] <dan-ubuntu> no, i have one, and im asking for support on it, with the apple remote, bluetooth keyboard
[19:29] <elli222> Akkernight, its not impossible...
[19:29] <eseven73> !virus
[19:29] <xangua> hi , does someone here uses Easystroke (mouse gestures )
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: can you expand on that any? http://www.straightrunning.com/candidate/Xming-7-4-0-2-setup.exe  for xmiing
[19:29] <Akkernight> elli222, but rare?
[19:29] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, i can connect on ethernet... and can connect on wireless... but on wireless.. even connected i cant browse anything most of the time...and sometimes it just works fine...and none of my connections can resolve dhcp.. i need to point everything
[19:29] <devilsadvocate_> ok folks, my firefox keeps telling me it updated and needs to be restarted. someone make this stop... please. its driving me nuts
[19:29] <saaber> but it seemed to be some folder, or whatever, which content runs on startup
[19:30] <dan-ubuntu> Appocc, restarted your wireless router?
[19:30] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: i had it be4 cygwin, i found the cygwin one was better integrated
[19:30] <nigtv> devilsadvocate_: if you installed a new version and are still clicking on the old ones launcher it will do that
[19:30] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, yah... fr sure
[19:30] <Nalf> What can I do if my video card says: 06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 9442. It shows up fine in Intrepid, just not in Hardy. <.<
[19:30] <pvtpete> hi
[19:30] <dan-ubuntu> Appocc, tried reseting it also?
[19:30] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, my wireless is just fine... its workin on other computers here
[19:30] <Appocc> yah
[19:30] <dan-ubuntu> hey pvtpete
[19:30] <_Z> good evening togehter
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: integrated into what?
[19:30] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: it's been 4yrs be4, just didn't give it another chance, so maybe things have changed
[19:31] <JeroenTB> into windoze
[19:31] <Appocc> cause u see... now my modem is controlles by it... so i have just one dhcp running, and just one gateway... so linux should start to resolve dhcp now right?
[19:31] <Zenitur> Linux Torwalds changed Linux logo in 2.6.29 kernel. Now this is Tasmainan Dewil
[19:31] <JeroenTB> rootless X and all
[19:31] <thiebaude> hi ActionParsnip
[19:31] <dan-ubuntu> err, dno
[19:31] <devilsadvocate_> nigtv, a full computer restart has also ensued since then :(
[19:31] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: any luck ?
[19:31] <JeroenTB> windows own decoration
[19:31] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider I'm not sure what do do at this point
[19:31] <devilsadvocate_> nigtv, restarting again anyway to check
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: yep, xming does that, apps look like they are running on windows
[19:31] <pvtpete> my mac's just semi died and I'm keeping it on ubuntu life support. Can anyone give me a clue as to how I can move all my stuff from my mac to my new ubuntu storage machine? The main problem atm is both machines can't see each other
[19:31] <cezar2> Hi, I rebooted my ubuntu 8.10 system and now all of a sudden I get an error on login that says .dmrc is being ignored and my user is no longer able to use sudo. I have to emphasize that I have made NO CHANGES to this system, and all I did was reboot it
[19:31] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider I tried the commands nigtv suggested and it didn't seem to do anything
[19:31] <Appocc> sometimes im connected on wireless, and i cant browse internet.. so i wait for a while and try again and it works... perfectly... without disconnection
[19:32] <Dreamglider> ZenMasta: can i pm u ?
[19:32] <ZenMasta> Disk /dev/sda: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
[19:32] <ZenMasta> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
[19:32] <ZenMasta> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[19:32] <ZenMasta> Disk identifier: 0xea1aa9c7
[19:32] <ZenMasta>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[19:32] <FloodBot2> ZenMasta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: you dont see the full fake x server unless you set it to show
[19:32] <ZenMasta> Dreamglider sure, pm
[19:32] <evilbug_> how do i install libstdc++?
[19:32] <nigtv> devilsadvocate_: i mean if you are clicking on a shortcut somewhere, its probably still pointing to the old one
[19:32] <mun> hi
[19:32] <nigtv> evilbug_: sudo apt-get install libstdc++ ?
[19:32] <thiebaude> evilbug, it should be in synaptic
[19:32] <Zenitur> evilbug sudo apt-get
[19:32] <evilbug_> nigtv: that's it? i was expecting something else
[19:32] <JeroenTB> ok, maybe i should give it a try sometime, however i was so fed up with windoze that my business laptop is now running ubuntu with most things working in cxoffice and latest wine for the games, i have vmware running XP for some progs that don't work but migration is going like a charm
[19:33] <mun> i'm trying to test the throughput of my SATA 2 drive with hdparm. strangely, i get "Timing cached reads: 11796Mb in 2.00 seconds = 5903.85Mb/sec. Isn't SATA 2 capable of 3gb/s only?
[19:33] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, are u still there?
[19:33] <JeroenTB> so no need for X under windows 4me ;)
[19:33] <evilbug_> nigtv, Zenitur - thanks.
[19:33] <mkrueger1> having grub problems with headless serial console ubuntu server -- can I get a volunteer to help me with this?
[19:33] <Zenitur> New Linux logo is Tasmanian Devil in 2.6.29
[19:34] <Zenitur> In 2.6.30 we will see penguin again
[19:34] <saaber> what kind of protocol i`ve to use to talk here via pidgin?
[19:34] <thiebaude> saaber: irc?
[19:34] <HentaiDebian> saaber, irc
[19:34] <JeroenTB> mkrueger1: we use lilo on our embedded systems that works on a serial line, don't know if grub actually supports it, does your bios forward console to serial ?
[19:34] <saaber> ok
[19:35] <CryptIce7> is there a way to grep for something and extract only what's grepped for?  for example,  I want to grep 1.2.3.4 file.txt > output.txt , but I want to only output 1.2.3.4  (not the rest of the line)
[19:35] <Kissaki_> Hey. I'm currently listening to music but firefox will use my PC speaker as output. How can I tell it to use (gnome) sounds?
[19:35] <mkrueger1> jeroentb, I'm much more comfortable with lilo, but have never used it with ubuntu
[19:35] <mkrueger1> yes bios does forward
[19:35] <mkrueger1> also grub docs say it does support it
[19:35] <b4chip> allot to read (vnc)....thx guys
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: me too only my work lappy is xp based but im over it
[19:36] <JeroenTB> mkrueger1: grub is just a bootloader, just make sure when switching to lilo you set the parms right
[19:36] <Soviet_Bob> I'm in need of a media player that doesn't obey the UNIX philosophy of KISS, but rather has the media player, a good library thing, and a CD-BURNING app built in. users that will be using this are too stupid to figure out they need to open brasero, even after I tell them and show them how..part of the reason I'm not giving them windows, I figure they'll have a harder time killing a linux machine. Closer to windows media player 
[19:36] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: i was fed up with windoze's useless waitstates ;) So one day i decided why cope with that
[19:37] <mkrueger1> won't switching to grub break system updates with aptitude, apt-get, etc.
[19:37] <macman> somone mind helping me with my swap issue ?
[19:37] <mkrueger1> ?
[19:37] <saaber> nickserv says: saaber1 is not a registered nickname.
[19:37] <cezar2> Hi, I rebooted my ubuntu 8.10 system and now all of a sudden I get an error on login that says .dmrc is being ignored and my user is no longer able to use sudo. I have to emphasize that I have made NO CHANGES to this system, and all I did was reboot it
[19:37] <mkrueger1> er, to lilo that is
[19:37] <JeroenTB> mkrueger1: not if you remove the grub-package
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: its extremely custom software that i test in ncitrix
[19:37] <mkrueger1> oic-  i'll try that - thanx
[19:37] <cezar2> also, this is in my sudoers file: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[19:37] <JeroenTB> mkrueger1: you can remove grub and install lilo using the package manager
[19:37] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: yo
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: so i need windows, plus after work i shutdown and jump on my own systems
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: yo yo yo
[19:38] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, will u help me???
[19:39] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: i guess there's no citrix client software availlable for linux than ? That sucks ! It's just X for windoze based programs ;)
[19:39] <cezar2> Is there any reason why sudoers would all of a sudden break in 8.10?
[19:39] <cezar2> this is bad, even for free software
[19:39] <saaber> have somebody had a deal with counter strike dedicated server on ubuntu?
[19:39] <JeroenTB> well gotta go get some sleep, have to get out on 4:45 AM :(
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: i think their is but what i have works so im not gonna fix it, ive got too many servers to firefight
[19:39] <monra> Hello. I have installed ubuntu some time ago, i tried installing a window manager(Stumpmw) but without any success, after this I have no sound... What can i do?
[19:40] <Seaking> =D
[19:40] <JeroenTB> cezar2: did you restore a tar-based backup ? that broke the sudoers file at my system, in the ubuntu forums i found a copy of a sudoers file you can install to fix things, just remember to put your account in the admin group !
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> monra: run lspci
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> monra: one line will identify the sound device
[19:41] <Picassotamus> JeroenTB: he left... w/ a friendly message
[19:41] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: i know what you mean, but you could run windows in a virtual machine 4 that...
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> monra: use that to websearch on how to set it up. also make sure you are fully updated
[19:41] <Seaking> ladnie
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: whats the point, thats more bloat in ram running 2 OSes
[19:41] <saaber> i`m starting css:dm server using script; it runs, but shows no console
[19:41] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: i see, what a jackass isn't he ? Patience...
[19:42] <saaber> so i can not control it
[19:42] <JeroenTB> RAM is cheap ;)
[19:42] <monra> ActionParsnip: YEs ... ok ... the problem is I had it i had sound, why don't I have anymore?
[19:42] <Soviet_Bob> no all in one media players like OpenOffice is an all in one office program?
[19:42] <Audifan> hello
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> monra: run through dmesg | less
[19:42] <JeroenTB> if windows lets you wait for something useless you can still do something usefull in your linux host ;)
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Soviet_Bob: amarok or banshee
[19:43] <JeroenTB> Anyway, gotta go, tc
[19:43] <Audifan> How are you???
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: i have no problem with windows for my work pc
[19:43] <curtmack> is it possible to make my own keyboard shortcut in GNOME?
[19:43] <Audifan> hallo könnt ihr deutsch/hello can you gerrman??
[19:43] <Guest49857> do anyone user weechat? how can i switch off the connect and disconnect msg from the users?
[19:43] <thiebaude> !de
[19:43] <Ax3> curtmack, you familiar with gnome-do ?
[19:43] <quibbler> curtmack: yes
[19:43] <thiebaude> ja
[19:44] <vigo> curtmack: Yes it is
[19:44] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: well me neither, but network timeouts when poping up explorer and stuff like that wore me down
[19:44] <Soviet_Bob> I don't care if it is fast. I don't care if it hogs resources, I don't care if it does any individual task worse than other programs... I just want something that doesn't require opening a second program to play, sort, and burn music.
[19:44] <Audifan> ihr seid behindert idis
[19:44] <jsmith2333> can some one help copy cds stop at end of operation
[19:44] <thiebaude> Audifan: nein
[19:44] <blazalt> I'm trying to put some sites on a Ubuntu server, and have a few questions. 1 is php automatically installed on ubuntu?  If so, where could i locate it on the server? 2 (im totally new to linux) if i need to install php, where would be the ideal path for it?
[19:44] <Soviet_Bob> Amarok doesn't have burning everytime I look.
[19:44] <ubrukelig> I can access my external disk in linux, but fails in windows. What can solve the problem?
[19:44] <curtmack> well, I've tried Keyboard Shortcuts, but that only lets me redefine existing commands
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> JeroenTB: never had a network timeout...
[19:44] <Ax3> blazalt, php is not automatically bundled in the initial ubuntu installer
[19:45] <curtmack> I want to bind the command "xvattr -a XV_HUE -v 0" to a keyboard shortcut
[19:45] <blazalt> thanks Ax3
[19:45] <JeroenTB> ActionParsnip: Sure ;) Tc and goodnite, i really gotta go now
[19:45] <Soviet_Bob> If memory serves, banshee didn't have burning either.
[19:45] <glisignoli> if I want to run a cron command every day at 11:50, the command would be: "47 11 * * * root blargh" right?
[19:45] <Ax3> blazalt, you'll want to: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[19:45] <ChrizC> my ubuntu install keeps failing between 40 and 70%, with an i/o error, I've dd'ed my drive, and my cdrom, but didn't get errors with them, how can I get it to work?
[19:46] <glisignoli> ChrizC done a mem test?
[19:46] <x_or> Is getting dual monitors to work as tricky as the forums make it sound?
[19:46] <curtmack> x_or: Depends on your video card
[19:46] <ChrizC> glisignoli: memory's fine.
[19:46] <curtmack> presumably
[19:47] <Ax3> x_or, i've had good success using nvidia cards
[19:47] <jsmith2333> copy cds fail even with brasero
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: did you md5 check yur iso as well as verify your cd once burned
[19:47] <Picassotamus> x_o: HOw hard does the forums make it sound? lol... w/ nvidia it wasn't too bad
[19:47] <Ax3> x_or, using TwinView
[19:47] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: I got my CD from Canonical.
[19:47] <x_or> curtmack:  OK.  Another question, is it possible to switch from using one video card to another using software?  For example, if I wanted to use one card, and then remotely configure and disable that card so that another would work.
[19:47] <Ax3> blazalt, how's that coming along?
[19:47] <quibbler> curtmack: in a terminal  gconf-editor  then go to /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: ok then run the verify cd to make sure its ok
[19:48] <Ax3> x_or, you can have presumably, two xorg.conf files
[19:48] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: have you heard of Canonical shipping a borked CD?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: also check your ram, and fsck your drive for health
[19:48] <blazalt> oh tnanks, just read you above comment
[19:48] <Guest37677> hi
[19:48] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: linux newbie, fsck?
[19:48] <Soviet_Bob> Back when Canonical would ship 3 CD's to ya, I got 3 of them... 1 was bad, other 2 were fine, though
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | ChrizC
[19:48] <curtmack> okay, thanks
[19:48] <digitaloktay> hi
[19:48] <x_or> Ax3:  But, upon boot I notice that my Shuttle D10 seems to use the secondary video card I added, so perhaps this happens before Linux is even loaded, need to configure in the BIOS, ro something?
[19:48] <Guest37677> anybody can helpme using hebrew in oppenoffice
[19:49] <digitaloktay> how can i fix this problem? http://nopaste.org/p/a3Hb8pJLpb
[19:49] <Appocc> sometimes im connected on wireless, and i cant browse internet.. so i wait for a while and try again and it works... perfectly... without disconnection
[19:49] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: how can I do that with a live CD?
[19:49] <quibbler> curtmack: define it here: /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_1
[19:49] <Appocc> dan-ubuntu, i can connect on ethernet... and can connect on wireless... but on wireless.. even connected i cant browse anything most of the time...and sometimes it just works fine...and none of my connections can resolve dhcp.. i need to point everything
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: boot to the desktop then read: man fsck
[19:49] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: "boot to the desktop?"
[19:49] <Appocc> i can connect on ethernet... and can connect on wireless... but on wireless.. even connected i cant browse anything most of the time...and sometimes it just works fine...and none of my connections can resolve dhcp.. i need to point everything!! can anybody help me plz???
[19:50] <x_or> If I am using two different video cards is that a recipe for disaster when trying to get dual monitor support?  Or, is it better to use two different cards?
[19:51] <keepsake> x_or: Why do you need 2 video cards?
[19:51] <x_or> keepsake:  I need to output to s-video, and the onboard card does not do that.
[19:51] <bimberi> ChrizC: the LiveCD includes a boot option to "Check CD for defects"
[19:51] <coolirisfoxZzz> hi all
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: the livecd desktop
[19:51] <ChrizC> bimberi: checks all clear
[19:51] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: that's what I'm on now.
[19:51] <coolirisfoxZzz> when I use interent, music play is slow and bad :(
[19:52] <kantor> hi
[19:52] <ChrizC> coolirisfoxZzz: I think that's either your internet connection, or your hardware. Try downloading it then playing it locally.
[19:52] <keepsake> x_or: Can't you use the same card for both outputs?
[19:52] <ChrizC> coolirisfoxZzz: if it's still bad, you've probably got poor hardware.
[19:52] <Ax3> he needs to configure X correctly for multimonitor support
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: cool then run mount to see whats mounted and umount partitions mentioned in nsudo fdisk -l
[19:52] <Ax3> as long as the kernel recognizes the devices
[19:53] <x_or> keepsake:  I have a single PCI-e slot on the box, and the onboard video card is soldered on.  Right?
[19:53] <Ax3> then he should be able to configure multimonitor support via xorg.conf
[19:53] <keepsake> x_or: Oh, I didn't know.
[19:53] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: sorry again, linux newbie, mount? nsudo fdisk?
[19:53] <kantor> why is that even if I select to connect automatically to a network connection configuration (pppoe) ubuntu is not connecting at restart is that a bug ??
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: then check the disks health with fsck
[19:53] <coolirisfoxZzz> ChrizC: no i mean
[19:53] <keepsake> x_or: I'm not really sure how to deal with your problem, sorry.
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: open terminal, type: sudo fdisk -l
[19:54] <coolirisfoxZzz> ChrizC: for example rhythmbox or... not online music
[19:54] <x_or> keepsake:  Thanks for listening.
[19:54] <ChrizC> coolirisfoxZzz: what's your RAM and CPU like?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: those will show you your partitions, you can then sudo umont /dev/<partition name>   to make sure they are unmounted
[19:55] <coolirisfoxZzz> ChrizC: 512/2.4 intel it's not mine, my friend's pc
[19:55] <Ax3> man xorg.conf
[19:55] <Ax3> there's a DEVICE SECTION
[19:56] <Ax3> you can set the number of screens and parameters
[19:56] <ChrizC> coolirisfoxZzz: then I'm not sure. Poor quality of the file? try a different file.
[19:56] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: all unmounted
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: then in terminal run: sudo fsck -Aa
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: if that doesnt fly use: sudo fsck -a /dev/<partition name>
[19:57] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: "fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)"
[19:57] <Ax3> get it working blazalt ? :p
[19:57] <x_or> So, the onboard video card which I am using on the shuttle is off, but was working before the second was added.  Is there a way to turn on the first card again?  Where do I begin to look for this?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> ChrizC: yeah just let it run, it will tell you if your drives and partitions are ok
[19:57] <coolirisfoxZzz> ChrizC: all music files !!
[19:57] <jacksparrow> hey guys, where can I get the latest 9.04 pre-release to test it and help developing?
[19:57] <blazalt> Thanks Ax3 that was pretty simple, but how would i locate the php.ini file? (im in the shell)
[19:58] <Ax3> blazalt, cd /etc/php5/apache2 && ls -lha
[19:58] <Kissaki_> I'm currently listening to music but firefox will use my PC speaker as output. How can I tell it to use (gnome) sounds?
[19:58] <ChrizC> ActionParsnip: it did nothing, but when I did it for /dev/hda, it told me there was a bad magic number is a super-block?
[19:58] <keepsake> jacksparrow: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha6
[19:58] <jacksparrow> keepsake: thx
[19:58] <keepsake> jacksparrow: Alternately, if you're running 8.10, update-manager -d in terminal will do it for you.
[19:58] <jacksparrow> keepsake: the ubuntu page is actually complicated
[19:58] <Ax3> blazalt, then: sudo nano -w php.ini
[19:59] <chetnick> is there a way to ﻿mirror-terminal, to watch what my users do in terminal?
[19:59] <Ax3> chetnick, use screen
[19:59] <jacksparrow> keepsake: will I be able to boot both then?
[19:59] <fn0rd23skidoo> hi i have 2 different ubunut installs on my computer,one has 300gigs of data i need,the other is only 40gis,would ther be any way to transfer my files from the larger one to the smaller one and simulatiniusly shrink the larger partition transfering the new empty space to the smaller partition?
[19:59] <keepsake> jacksparrow: Both?
[19:59] <wodKja> Good afternoon, is there a way to get the terminal in 8.10 to stop smoothing my fonts? :)
[19:59] <coolirisfoxZzz> ChrizC: just when using net
[19:59] <jacksparrow> keepsake: 8.04 and 9.04, will I be able to choose which one to boot?
[19:59] <keepsake> jacksparrow: If you update with update-manager, your current Ubuntu is upgraded to it.
[19:59] <CryptIce7> is there a reason that   egrep 1\.2\.3\.[0-9] file.txt    matches 12.2.3.4  ?
[20:00] <keepsake> jacksparrow: If you install with the CD, you can make a new partition for 9.04 to keep 8.04.
[20:00] <Ax3> chetnick, this might be what you want: http://www.linux.com/articles/56443
[20:00] <ChrizC> 9.04's out?
[20:00] <chetnick> Ax3: thanks i will look in to it :)
[20:00] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[20:00] <keepsake> ChrizC: No, Alpha6 is out.
[20:00] <jacksparrow> keepsake: I think it may be useful to keep the old version
[20:00] <ChrizC> Ah.
[20:00] <blazalt> wow Ax3, you're the man!
[20:00] <DIFH-iceroot> ChrizC: no. 9.04 is a date
[20:00] <ChrizC> DIFH-iceroot: I'm not an idiot.
[20:00] <DIFH-iceroot> ChrizC: year 2009, month 04
[20:01] <keepsake> jacksparrow: Then download the CD and use it =P
[20:01] <nalead> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKxIHXg5XJ8
[20:01] <nalead> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKxIHXg5XJ8
[20:01] <FloodBot2> nalead: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <jacksparrow> keepsake: jup, thx
[20:01] <Ax3> chetnick, basically, someone will start the screen session, set multiuser, add the user to the session, then the other person (to see the session) will do screen -x username/session . Easy as pie ;)
[20:01] <Ax3> blazalt, glad to help ;)
[20:01] <keepsake> DIFH-iceroot: Is that actually how it works?
[20:02] <nalead> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKxIHXg5XJ8 very funny
[20:02] <Ax3> nalead, go away
[20:02] <chetnick> Ax3: Thanks a lot man :)
[20:02] <jacksparrow> keepsake: btw, what is the most intelligent way to install a new iso without burning a cd?
[20:02] <digitaloktay> hi
[20:02] <Ax3> chetnick, man screen - it's well worth the read, screen is one of the most powerful programs in linux.  I use it every day.
[20:02] <digitaloktay> how can i fix this problem? Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 2 zurück
[20:02] <keepsake> jacksparrow: It would be to burn the CD =P
[20:03] <digitaloktay> http://nopaste.org/p/a3Hb8pJLpb
[20:03] <tripoa> where to get games for ubuntu ? also..where can i see list of drivers/hardware in ubunto like winxp .. in winxp i go to control panel--system-etc.. in ubuntu how?
[20:03] <keepsake> jacksparrow: Helpful to keep a CD in case you need it.
[20:03] <thiebaude> !screen
[20:03] <ChrizC> hey all, I just fsck'ed the disk I'm trying to install Ubuntu to, and it says I've got a bad magic number in a super-block, what the hell does this mean?
[20:03] <tripoa> by the way i just installed ubuntu first time running this os :).
[20:03] <Ax3> ChrizC, that's definitely not good
[20:03] <erUSUL> ChrizC: the superblock is corrupted ? there is a way to tell fsck to use the backup superblock
[20:04] <Ax3> ChrizC, you may be able to tell the disk to avoid using it
[20:04] <jacksparrow> keepsake: okay :D.. another question: could it be useful to use VMs to test 9.04 or would you suggest it on real hardware?
[20:04] <ezio> Hello everybody i am new to ubuntu and i got everything i need running except i need to get java working how can i do this? the java under applications wont work in mozilla firefox please help me if u can
[20:04] <ChrizC> e2fsck -b?
[20:04] <keepsake> jacksparrow: If you can VM it, just do that for now. It's only an Alpha release.
[20:04] <erUSUL> ChrizC: is "e2fsck -b 32768 -restofoptions"
[20:04] <evilbug> does anyone here have experience with an i7?
[20:05] <Ax3> evilbug, i don't, but what's your issue
[20:05] <ChrizC> erUSUL: it's telling me to "e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda"
[20:05] <erUSUL> ezio: install sun-java6-plugin
[20:05] <jacksparrow> keepsake: so you think that bugs in VMs will also be useful for real machines then
[20:05] <Ax3> jacksparrow, use vmware or virtual box, it's not wise to use the alpha at this time
[20:05] <erUSUL> ChrizC: for 4k blocksize is 32768
[20:05] <erUSUL> ChrizC: nobody uses 1k blocksize filsystems any more
[20:06] <keepsake> jacksparrow: The issue is that an alpha release might have damaging bugs (as people report data loss with ext4 and such)
[20:06] <nightrid3r> jacksparrow: real hardware is good for hw support testing, but thats about it
[20:06] <erUSUL> ezio: intalling the package i just told you
[20:06] <ChrizC> erUSUL: "e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda" "Could this be a zero-length partition?"
[20:06] <evilbug> Ax3: i need to upgrade this pc and was wondering whether i should go for an i7 or a c2d extreme. curious about any issues with i7 and ubuntu.
[20:06] <ZeRRO> hi
[20:06] <ZeRRO> ?
[20:06] <erUSUL> ChrizC: /dev/hda ???
[20:07] <jacksparrow> keepsake: what about kvm?
[20:07] <ZeRRO> ????
[20:07] <cdenny> i was messing with compiz-fusion, i changed a shortcut key, and now i cant use the scroll up button on my mouse to scroll up
[20:07] <keepsake> !ask | zerro
[20:07] <erUSUL> ChrizC: should be /dev/hda(somenumber) and in modern ubuntu it would be /dev/sda
[20:07] <cTn> anyone interested in getting bonus invite for dropbox? i have one free
[20:07] <Ax3> evilbug, you should be good with either, the linux kernel 2.6.__ has support for both
[20:07] <daftykins> hey, just installed the gstreamer updates for intrepid, i was seeking back and forth in a video in mplayer when all of a sudden it froze. i had to kill -9 mplayer, but then upon re-running i got "no audio device" errors. i just ran "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" but i still don't have audio - what's my best plan of attack?
[20:07] <keepsake> jacksparrow: I don't know, I'm not very experienced with VM's, sorry.
[20:07] <erUSUL> ChrizC: /dev/sda(somenumber)
[20:07] <nalead> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKxIHXg5XJ8
[20:07] <ChrizC> erUSUL: old hdd?
[20:08] <nalead> someone view this?
[20:08] <ZeRRO> ok sry.. dou guys know how can i install firefox 3??
[20:08] <nalead> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKxIHXg5XJ8
[20:08] <jacksparrow> keepsake: I'll try it out, thx
[20:08] <erUSUL> ChrizC: please paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l" to a pastebin
[20:08] <nightrid3r> nalead: go away fucker
[20:08] <cTn> anyone interested in getting bonus invite for dropbox? i have one free
[20:08] <Pici> nightrid3r: That language is not appropriate here, period.
[20:08] <ChrizC> oh, they are sda's, erUSUL.
[20:08] <Akkernight> Jeez, I'm back at the problem with insight.exe xD Does anyone know where I can download this?
[20:08] <erUSUL> ZeRRO: ff3 is installed by default in intrepid and hardy iirc
[20:08] <nightrid3r> Pici:  sorry lost it for a moment
[20:08] <SeViLLa> ZeRRO: apt
[20:08] <jacksparrow> is the gstreamer bug in pidgin solved?
[20:08] <cdenny> i was messing with compiz-fusion, i changed a shortcut key, and now i cant use the scroll up button on my mouse to scroll up. how can i fix this?
[20:09] <ezio> erUSUL chek ur private messages please
[20:09] <erUSUL> ChrizC: welll then pass /dev/sda(whatevernumber)
[20:09] <ChrizC> erUSUL: doing that now.
[20:09] <erUSUL> ezio: i did and i told you twice to install the sun-java6-plugin package
[20:09] <daftykins> if anyone has read my question i'll be back shortly
[20:09] <erUSUL> !info sun-java6-plugin | ezio
[20:10] <koro> i am trying to find a way to get gnome to ignore my extra mouse buttons (side buttons)
[20:10] <koro> i'm in ubuntu 8.10
[20:10] <Ax3> i think pulseaudio just sucks
[20:10] <cTn> anyone interested in getting bonus invite for dropbox? i have one free
[20:10] <ezio> thanks erusul and sorry for bothering u
[20:10] <Ax3> i've heard nothing but awful things
[20:10] <koro> but messing around with the xorg.conf file doesn't seem to help since it now says that " HAL is used"  to configure the mouse
[20:10] <Cahan> is the normal ubuntu disk able to install from commandline, my graphics card isn't supported
[20:10] <cdenny> i was messing with compiz-fusion, i changed a shortcut key, and now i cant use the scroll up button on my mouse to scroll up
[20:10] <erUSUL> ezio: no problem. but try to follow  what you are told :)
[20:10] <noren> cTn: whats dropboc
[20:11] <vanityvertigo> I shall be back, restarting X to test it
[20:11] <Ax3> Cahan, yes, drop to a terminal: ctrl + alt + f1, f2, f3 etc
[20:11] <catalin> What developer environment do you use on ubuntu ? A compiler for c# ?
[20:11] <ChrizC> erUSUL: so many freeblock counts wrong..
[20:11] <koro> i tried xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 32 31 30 ... 6" to remap the buttons to inexistent buttons (i read this in the forums) but it seems to do nothing
[20:11] <ezio> sorry =P i was hoping u would say it in the private message so i dont lose it in the chat
[20:11] <koro> (altough the buttons *are* remapped as xmodmap -pp shows)
[20:11] <noren> Cahan: u have to get an alternate cd image
[20:11] <cTn> noren: www.getdropbox.com its an backup/sync/public share/gallery type of deal
[20:11] <ChrizC> right, erUSUL, I've apparently fixed it
[20:11] <koro> my problem is that when i'm for example navigating in the menu bar and i accidentally click a side button, it launches an application or does something unwanted
[20:12] <Cahan> Ax3: yeah but is there a text installer or do I need another iso?
[20:12] <evilbug__> Ax3: alright, thanks.
[20:12] <erUSUL> ezio: well i have address you (with your nick in front) so your irc client highlights it
[20:12] <erUSUL> !yay | ChrizC
[20:12] <cTn> noren: i have one free place to invite somone which gave +250mb of bonus space to normal (2gb) of space
[20:12] <ezio> k sorry im new to this IRC thingy to never used it on my old microsoft comp
[20:12] <saaber> а русские перцы здесь есть?
[20:12] <erUSUL> catalin: monodevelop for c#
[20:12] <erUSUL> !ru | saaber
[20:12] <Akkernight> does anyone know where I can download insight.exe for mingw ?
[20:12] <Ax3> evilbug__ i thought you left lol...
[20:13] <cdenny> i was messing with compiz-fusion, i changed a shortcut key, and now i cant use the scroll up button on my mouse to scroll up
[20:13] <erUSUL> ezio: again no problem ;P
[20:13] <catalin> Thank you.
[20:13] <evilbug> Ax3: switching between computers.
[20:13] <Seaking> xfce
[20:13] <dbrewer_rjr> is there any way to adjust the geometry on the remote desktop that comes with ubuntu?
[20:13] <Ax3> evilbug, ahh well you can always check kernel.org for the latest stable versions
[20:13] <Ax3> evilbug, if I were you i'd future proof and get an I7
[20:14] <ChrizC> erUSUL: it's not working.
[20:14] <saisai> through one we are many!
[20:14] <evilbug> Ax- alright.
[20:14] <erUSUL> ChrizC: what's not working ?
[20:15] <tripoa> where to get good games for ubuntu ? also download programs etc,,
[20:15] <ChrizC> erUSUL: I "fixed" all the wrong freeblock counts, but when I checked the disk again, it gave me the errors again
[20:15] <fosco_> tripoa: getdeb.net
[20:15] <erUSUL> ChrizC: what options did you pass to e2fsck ?
[20:16] <Pici> !games | tripoa
[20:16] <erUSUL> !software | tripoa
[20:16] <ezio> erUSUL i got the java version of http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com:80 i got the self extracting not RPM one but its a .bit file and i cannot open these
[20:16] <ChrizC> erUSUL: "e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sda1"
[20:16] <erUSUL> tripoa: ubuntu users download all its programs from official repos if possible :)
[20:16] <OrangeKyo> hi all
[20:17] <dbrewer_rjr> is there any way to adjust the geometry on the remote desktop that comes with ubuntu?
[20:17] <erUSUL> ezio: install the package i told you « sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin »
[20:17] <daftykins> for information, a simple X restart restored my audio, heh
[20:17] <lianimator1> is there an ER diagram maker for ubuntu??
[20:17] <erUSUL> ezio: you do not need the rpm or the bin file. ubuntu has taken care of all that
[20:17] <lianimator1> dia doesn't arrow head for cardinality
[20:17] <jacksparrow> ps: ubuntu is great, see ya
[20:17] <ezio> erUSUL: where can i find the package i cant find it
[20:18] <evilbug> Ax3- i ran into this > http://www.newegg.com/Store/ComboDeals.aspx?ComboStoreID=1&page=1
[20:18] <erUSUL> ChrizC: i would pass -pkcf too
[20:18] <erUSUL> ezio: System<administration>Synaptic
[20:18] <erUSUL> ezio: search for it there
[20:18] <sam555> any good how-to set up samba and firewalls on ubuntu 8.04?
[20:19] <ezio> erUSUL: Ok il get back to u later =P
[20:19] <erUSUL> ezio: if you can not find it you may have to enable multiverse first
[20:19] <erUSUL> ezio: go to System>admin>Software sources. on the first tab tick the multiverse box
[20:19] <evilbug> Ax3- i need to upgrade my 5 year old pc and i thought i might as well put together a better custom setup than buy one from best buy.
[20:20] <ezio> erUSUL: i found it il tell u if it worked in a few mins :p
[20:20] <Lenin_Cat> how do I remove pluseaduio without removing ubuntu-desktop
[20:20] <ChrizC> erUSUL: it's not doing anything
[20:20] <erUSUL> ChrizC: :|
[20:20] <dr_willis> Lenin_Cat,  in short.. you dont.
[20:21] <dr_willis> Lenin_Cat,  ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package - it really wont hurt much to have it removed
[20:21] <Lenin_Cat> oh
[20:21] <thiebaude> !pulseaudio
[20:21] <dr_willis> Lenin_Cat,  now if you ever want to do a release-upgrade. its best to reinstall ubuntu-desktop first
[20:21] <ChrizC> erUSUL: I'm being serious, it's just not doing anything, but it's not letting me do more commands either
[20:21] <Lenin_Cat> dr_willis, ill make sure to make a note of that
[20:22] <danbhfive> anyone know the difference between empathy and pidgin?
[20:22] <erUSUL> ChrizC: wait for a while... is there no activity on the disk either?
[20:22] <ChrizC> it's loud, but no led flashing, erUSUL
[20:23] <Tniffoc> Hey, I just intalled the package "rar" thinking it was free, but aparently it's not... How can I get rid of it?
[20:23] <erUSUL> ChrizC: crtl + c to interrupt it
[20:23] <nightdrever> can you install opensuse on a pc with xp?....with no cd/dvd?
[20:23] <koro> so can someone help me with xmodmap
[20:23] <erUSUL> !software | Tniffoc
[20:23] <Pici> nightdrever: Please ask in #opensuse, not #ubuntu
[20:23] <nightdrever> sorry
[20:24] <koro> this is weird, even after remapping my side mouse buttons to inexistent buttons, gnome recognizes them and uses them
[20:24] <blom1> i have an ubuntu .iso, but don't have a cdr; how can i install ubuntu from an usb stick?
[20:24] <koro> xev confirms that the buttons are remapped
[20:24] <koro> what's going on?
[20:24] <nightdrever> #opensuse
[20:24] <erUSUL> !install | blom1
[20:24] <embryus> hey I have a question.. how can I start a graphical program from a different console?
[20:24] <verma_ii> can't get my Logitech Orbit Cam to work :( .. has anyone tried or figured how to get it to work?
[20:24] <ChrizC> erUSUL: right, it's showing "/dev/sda1: Updating bad block inode" but it only showed that after I interrupted it.
[20:25] <embryus> I mean am in console 2 now bot wanna start a program in consele 6 or so
[20:25] <billyk> does anyone know of a way to ssh into a server that's on dhcp behind a router? (and without port forwarding in the router)
[20:25] <erUSUL> ChrizC: try "sudo e2fsck -pf /dev/sda1"
[20:25] <erUSUL> !webcam | verma_ii
[20:25] <b4ckb0ne> verma_ii: probably this will help: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[20:26] <Pedobearishere> O HAI GUISE
[20:26] <Pedobearishere> SORRY IM LATE
[20:26] <FloodBot2> Pedobearishere: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <Pedobearishere> DID SOMEONE SAY YOUNG?
[20:26] <Pedobearishere> HALLO?
[20:26] <keepsake> Oh god, get an op in here.
[20:26] <Pedobearishere> O_O
[20:26] <yaya> how can i disable member enter the room message in pidgin?
[20:27] <erUSUL> Pedobearishere: quit caps
[20:27] <Pedobearishere> WHY SO SRS?
[20:27] <keepsake> Pedobearishere is obviously a troll from 4chan or something =__=
[20:27] <erUSUL> !caps | Pedobearishere
[20:27] <blom1> thanks, but i've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick but can't find information how to create it from windows, it uses linux commands, i dont have ubuntu installed yet
[20:27] <ChrizC> erUSUL: "/dev/sda1: 14427/1169168 files (0.1% non-contiguous), 278352/4672899 blocks"
[20:27] <verma_ii> erUSUL, , b4ckb0ne thanks .. let me check those out
[20:27] <Ax3> Cahan, i'd take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[20:27] <erUSUL> ChrizC: it finished ?
[20:28] <MDC_> is there any way to query nautilus for all files or folders with an attached keyword/emblem?
[20:28] <ChrizC> erUSUL: yep
[20:28] <sam555> would it be ok to copy samba files from a suse distro to ubuntu?
[20:28] <blom1> erUSUL:  thanks, but i've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick but can't find information how to create it from windows, it uses linux commands, i dont have ubuntu installed yet
[20:28] <erUSUL> blom1: unetbootin ....
[20:28] <binarymutant> is pidgin-twitter in the repos yet? I know they have a ppa
[20:28] <erUSUL> blom1: from th page UNetbootin automates this task by providing a GUI to create a bootable Ubuntu Live USB drive from an ISO file, and can be run from both an installed Windows or Linux system, or from a liveCD.
[20:29] <Mkman> hello
[20:29] <erUSUL> ChrizC: well seems like it found nothing wrong with the filesystem
[20:29] <runes> is there a gui tool for man pages in gnome?
[20:29] <ChrizC> erUSUL: so how can I fix a non-broken filesystem?
[20:30] <erUSUL> ChrizC: dunno ; what problems are you seeing ?
[20:30] <blom1> erUSUL: UNetbootin, is one of the reasons i have to reinstall ubuntu, it ruined my ubuntu, after i was trying to repair grub from installing xp
[20:30] <erUSUL> runes: System>Help
[20:30] <blom1> :-( :-(
[20:30] <ghindo> binarymutant: It doesn't look like it, no.  Not even in Jaunty
[20:30] <ChrizC> erUSUL: at between 40 and 70% of "copying files.." in the install, I get error 5 (input/output error)
[20:31] <erUSUL> blom1: then work from the livecd
[20:31] <runes> erUSUL, is it actually searching through the internal man pages?
[20:31] <blom1> erUSUL: i don't have a cdr..
[20:31] <Jerusalem420> i deleted the area on my panel where open program icons are visible (pigin and rythmbox for example). So when I open these two programs, I have no where,         to minimize them to on the upper panel. how di fix this?
[20:31] <erUSUL> ChrizC: that may be a problem with the hard drive itself or a bug in the disk controller driver in linux or many other things
[20:32] <ChrizC> erUSUL: so how do I fix it?
[20:32] <runes> erUSUL, the reason I am asking is that with all the custom software installs it would be nice if I could search through all man pages like in the help and support button
[20:32] <skunch> yello?
[20:32] <saisai> jerusalem: right click panel
[20:32] <erUSUL> blom1: all the things listed in Manual aproach can be done from the livecd
[20:33] <skunch> I have a very very very quick question
[20:33] <erUSUL> blom1: given that you have the iso file in your hardrive
[20:33] <skunch> probably easy to solve I just need some clarity here
[20:33] <Jerusalem420> yes saisai?
[20:33] <ghindo> skunch: Sure, what is it?
[20:33] <Jerusalem420> what do i need to add?
[20:33] <Jerusalem420> whats it called
[20:33] <erUSUL> blom1: you can mount the partition holding the iso file
[20:33] <saisai> jerusalem: right click panel-> add to panel -> workspace switcher
[20:33] <skunch> yes, I wanna format Ubuntu. As to say I want to "restore it to it's factory settings" kinda like windows
[20:33] <Jerusalem420> thats not what i mean saisai.
[20:34] <skunch> I just want it to be as if I just installed Ubuntu again
[20:34] <erUSUL> runes: tried "man -k search_string" ??
[20:34] <Jerusalem420> let me try to be clearer.
[20:34] <embryonalni> hey can you help me? how can I start a program into a different shell???????
[20:34] <ChrizC> what's the command to get the cow inside terminal?
[20:34] <Jerusalem420> I'm stoned.
[20:34] <Jerusalem420> anywho
[20:34] <ghindo> skunch: Without reinstalling, you mean?
[20:34] <erUSUL> Jerusalem420: add a "notification area" to you panel
[20:34] <skunch> Well, I already cleared out my windows sector of my harddrive
[20:35] <skunch> but the other partition that contains Ubuntu was not affected
[20:35] <Jerusalem420> when I launch rythmbox, it used to minimize to the upper panel and i could click the icon and change songs, etc.
[20:35] <erUSUL> Jerusalem420: right click on the panel choose add
[20:35] <skunch> only the C: drive partition was
[20:35] <Jerusalem420> i played with the panel today
[20:35] <skunch> so now I just wanna clear out the partition that has ubuntu and make it "brand new" again
[20:35] <Jerusalem420> thanks
[20:35] <runes> thanx erUSUL
[20:35] <erUSUL> runes: no problem
[20:35] <Jerusalem420> exactly what i needed. thanks a lot.
[20:36] <ghindo> skunch: I suppose you could always reinstall Ubuntu, but other than that I'm not sure if there's anything else you could do.
[20:36] <skunch> well how will I got about doing that
[20:37] <ghindo> skunch:  The same way you installed Ubuntu in the first place
[20:37] <skunch> because when I use the boot CD it never says "reinstall Ubuntu"
[20:37] <erUSUL> skunch: just reinstall choose manual partitioning and telll the installer to use the already done partitions. it will format them and install
[20:37] <skunch> so do I basically have to "overlap" an installation to clean it out?
[20:37] <skunch> ahh ok
[20:38] <skunch> will it already show me which parts that are covered by ubuntu?
[20:38] <erUSUL> skunch: i should be obvious...
[20:39] <skunch> yeah you're probably right
[20:39] <Pedobearishere> O HAI
[20:39] <skunch> ok, I think i'll try that
[20:39] <Pedobearishere> SO
[20:39] <Pedobearishere> IS THIS A YOUNG PERSONS CHAT?
[20:39] <skunch> lmao
[20:39] <Seveas> !ops | Pedobearishere
[20:39] <kay> hey everybody
[20:39] <atari> i only have these "uato configure" things in my xorg.conf. now i'd like to change som values... but how can i get a complete xorg.conf?
[20:39] <Pedobearishere> C'MON GUISE
[20:39] <Pedobearishere> WE CAN KEEP THIS SECRET
[20:39] <erUSUL> skunch: other option you can delete the ubuntu partitions from the livecd with gparted then telll the installer to use the unpartitioned space
[20:39] <FloodBot2> Pedobearishere: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <skunch> anyways thanks erUSUL
[20:43]  * erUSUL ICMP ECHO REQUEST
[20:43] <LjL> erUSUL: packet lost
[20:43] <_VIM_> erUSUL: ?
[20:43] <erUSUL> LjL: XD
[20:44] <glitsj16> atari: not sure if i get exactly what you mean by a 'complete' xorg.conf, but you can add the params/values your graphics card supports manually ... for exact syntax and explanation of the options etc. there's always the manual (man xorg.conf)
[20:44] <l337m4573r> how do i change my root password?
[20:44] <LjL> !root > l337m4573r    (l337m4573r, see the private message from ubottu)
[20:44] <erUSUL> i knew somweone has to "break the ice"
[20:44] <atari> glitsj16: my xorg.conf is only about 20 lines
[20:44] <Appocc> could anyone tell me a driver for ubuntu intrepid that supports philips snu6500
[20:44] <atari> glitsj16: i have a netbook
[20:45] <erUSUL> atari: you can generate a complete xorg.conf by doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[20:46] <blom1> i used fixmbr now my ubuntu isnt recognized; i'm on windows, when using ifs drives it shows as the ubuntu partition as "Linux" not "ext2" usually it's ext2, how do i fix this?
[20:46] <glitsj16> atari: that's custom now with the more recent versions of X, is anything not working properly ?
[20:46] <atari> glitsj16: doesnt help
[20:46] <erUSUL> _VIM_: an ICMP ECHO REQUEST is the udp packet ping sends....
[20:46] <atari> glitsj16: i'll upload it. mom
[20:46] <Soviet_Bob> blom1: you erased GRUB
[20:46] <_VIM_> erUSUL: i know, just wondering why you did that :)
[20:46] <Soviet_Bob> fixmbr erases anything that MS doesn't recognize as being theres
[20:46] <erUSUL> blom1: check the fix grub after installing windows
[20:46] <Soviet_Bob> In that area
[20:47] <erUSUL> _VIM_: to reanimate the channel... XD and it worked!
[20:47] <erUSUL> !grub > blom1
[20:47] <atari> glitsj16: http://rafb.net/p/lOlkmR64.html
[20:47] <glitsj16> atari: okay, checking
[20:47] <atari> glitsj16: thats what i had and what i get again
[20:48] <blom1> Soviet_Bob: yes, i erased grub when i installed xp. then i tried autosupergrub which caused unable to boot to any OS, then i used fixmbr, but now the ubuntu partition isn't recognized in IFS drives
[20:48] <Ax3> evilbug, looks great
[20:48] <Ax3> evilbug, a lil pricey, but it'll kick ass ;)
[20:48] <glitsj16> atari: looks perfectly regular
[20:49] <atari> glitsj16: sure. but i want to add an option for the synaptic driver
[20:49] <atari> glitsj16: but where do i have to set it?
[20:49] <stabbyjoe12> is there a way to group conversation in kmess
[20:49] <evilbug> Ax3- i plan on upgrading gradually.
[20:49] <l337m4573r> does anyone know how i could get my xbox 360 to share the internet from my laptop?
[20:49] <glitsj16> atari: you will need a text editor to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:50] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | l337m4573r
[20:50] <Ax3> evilbug, I do recommend, with a wattage draw like that, to have sufficient cooling, the stock fan may not be good enough
[20:50] <atari> glitsj16: the problem isnt how to change and what to change...
[20:50] <atari> glitsj16: the problem is more like: how do i get a normal xorg.conf as i'm used to have on any other distribution
[20:51] <ezio> erUSUL: Thanks so much for helping me out if finnaly got the java running u were very helpfull if i ever can do something back just let me know
[20:51] <evilbug> Ax3- alright, i'll look into it.
[20:51] <tenebre> salve
[20:51] <nOStahl> is there a way to get rhythmbox to auto find artist info? album info etc
[20:52] <stabbyjoe12> anyone got a fav im client ive tryed emsene amsn and pidgin and i like kmess but i watn tabbed chats
[20:52] <Ax3> evilbug, check out the Zalman ;)
[20:52] <Ax3> stabbyjoe12, pidgin has tabbed chats...
[20:52] <stabbyjoe12> ax3 dont like pidgin
[20:53] <glitsj16> atari: the newer versions of X (on most platforms) now uses a minimal conf, to make on the fly changes in your setup manageable by X ... but if you have an older xorg.conf for your hardware setup you can try it out
[20:53] <evilbug> Ax3- thanks for the tip.
[20:53] <Ax3> stabbyjoe12, what's NOT too like about pidgin? it has wide support for every protocal, prolific developer plugin base....
[20:53] <Soviet_Bob> this motherboard solves any heat issues with a hot. newer pentium4.... the FSB won't go up as high as the P4s want, so, say, a 2.8ghz p4 with a 21x multiplier goes 2.1ghz. never gets above 47C, under full load, and no AC.
[20:53] <glitsj16> atari: to rephrase ... short is normal in the recent X versions
[20:53] <stabbyjoe12> ax3 no webcam:)
[20:54] <Ax3> stabbyjoe12, overrated
[20:54] <atari> glitsj16: so then. i doant have an pointer device in the config. how should i add additional options for a special driver? (e.g. synaptic)
[20:54] <stabbyjoe12> ax3 but i want webcam support **tantrum noise**
[20:54] <Soviet_Bob> I don't like pidgins UI....but I like irssi's, oddly. usng pidgin because I didn't feel like doing the oh so simple sudo apt-get install irssi.
[20:54] <glitsj16> atari: moment please, i'll try and paste or refer to an example for synaptic
[20:55] <Ax3> Soviet_Bob, try finch :p
[20:55] <atari> glitsj16: that'd be great
[20:55] <skyred> I created a user for VSFTP, and added the user to www-data. However when I ftp the server, the vsftpd process still runs as nobody. Does anyone know what I did wrong?
[20:55] <dr_willis> I whoudl think the ftp server is supposed to run as 'nobody.' not as the user.
[20:57] <Soviet_Bob> doesn't FTP stuff have to run under root? due to the whole "any port under 1024 requires root" thing?
[20:57] <BadElvis> what is the default mode of my wireless adapter?
[20:57] <Ax3> vsftpd currently runs under root, yes
[20:57] <nOStahl> is there a way for Rhythmbox to search a music db to find your unknown artist info?
[20:57] <BadElvis> iwconfig wlan0 mode ???
[20:57] <dr_willis> Soviet_Bob,  normally services get started by 'root' then switch to a safer user.. thats the reason we have the ftp and apache 'users' i guess one can say
[20:57] <atari> Soviet_Bob: not necessarily. the ftp daemon can drop its root privileges to run as normal user
[20:57] <Ax3> you can't typically start service level daemons without root privelege
[20:57] <BadElvis> nOStahl: no ther isnt
[20:58] <atari> BadElvis: type iwconfig
[20:58] <dr_willis> Soviet_Bob,  not excatly a 'normal' user but not 'root' level user either. restricted to their own dirs and stuff.
[20:58] <atari> BadElvis: there you can see the wireless details of all available adapters...
[20:58] <BadElvis> atari: ok, mom
[20:58] <glitsj16> atari: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad explains how to add support for a touchpad
[20:58] <sharidog> hi al
[20:59] <mleger> hello everyone. Wondering if someone can direct me to a how-to for moving from wubi to full install using LVPM and gparted
[20:59] <BadElvis> atari: but i dont know in which mode i can connect to my wireless network
[20:59] <sharidog> anyone in the world find me plzzzzzzzzz Bison Webcam Drivers?
[20:59] <mleger> And if there are any risks to consider? thanks
[20:59] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to specify two different keyboard shortcuts for one action?
[20:59] <sprinkmeier> mleger, the alternate install CD has LVM and FDE install options
[20:59] <atari> BadElvis: what do you mean with "which mode"? ad-hoc, station, ap
[20:59] <Tentarry> Hey there, is anybody else using a laptop with an ati graphics card in it?
[20:59] <atari> glitsj16: gnah... i'm just looking for a way to get an old fashioned xorg.conf
[21:00] <nOStahl> BadElvis is there a linux app that does?
[21:00] <atari> glitsj16: i want to enable the two finger scrolling with the xorg config option
[21:00] <mleger> sprinkmeier: Thank you, I dont have the alternate install cd, and want to move my current wubi installation to a seperate partition
[21:00] <danbhfive> sharidog: try easycam
[21:00] <elizabeth_> what's the difference between the live CD and DVD?
[21:00] <Soviet_Bob> I'm still fairly new to linux configuring/commands,,, so when I had to run a server(not web) on a port under 1024, oh god that caused me some grief... I knew about the limitation, but not how to get it to start with the system as root. and don't worry, I have it figured out now.
[21:00] <BadElvis> atari: i used to have wlan connection. then i switched to monitor mode and it is gone now. i would like to switch back to some mode in which i can connect to my router again.
[21:01] <atari> glitsj16: isnt there a way to generate one? as xorg gets its own config on runtime it should be possible, not?
[21:01] <ZenMasta> how do I find out where an application was extracted to? I just installed testdisk but I'd like to know which folder it went to
[21:01] <atari> BadElvis: iwconfig $interface scan
[21:01] <atari> BadElvis: iwlist $interface ap
[21:01] <BadElvis> nOStahl: i dont know a good one. i use ID3 Tag it under windows. some people use the picard tagger under linux
[21:01] <atari> BadElvis: iwconfig $interface essid $ssid
[21:01] <sprinkmeier> mleger, haven't used wubi, I don't know how 'normal' it is. I'd try installing a 'real' ubuntu on a real disk, then srync-ing across from wubi. might work, might completely noodle the install, but ar least you won't have lost anything
[21:01] <bindaas> Soviet_Bob: man authbind
[21:02] <atari> run dhcp an int should work again...
[21:02] <Soviet_Bob> ZenMasta: you mean like whereis testdisk?
[21:02] <sprinkmeier> mleger, s/srync/rsync/
[21:02] <atari> although the network manager should take care of that...
[21:02] <DPic_> what's the difference between the live CD and DVD?
[21:02] <linux> DPic_: i don't know
[21:02] <nOStahl> BadElvis im looking for something similar to  the cellphone apps that plays a sample of the song against it's db to figgure out what the info is
[21:02] <ZenMasta> Soviet_Bob I guess, I'm looking for what folder it is in
[21:02] <mleger> sprinkmeier: will try that. thanks!
[21:02] <Soviet_Bob> whereis will tell you where parts of it are
[21:02] <Soviet_Bob> such as where the executable is
[21:02] <DPic_> lol thanks linux
[21:02] <BadElvis> nOStahl: i dont know something like that for linus
[21:03] <DPic_> anybodyelse know?
[21:03] <BadElvis> linux
[21:03] <Soviet_Bob> where the config files, and man page are
[21:03] <ZenMasta> Soviet_Bob when I whereis testdisk all it shows is testdisk: /usr/sbin/testdisk /usr/share/man/man1/testdisk.1.gz
[21:03] <ZenMasta> Soviet_Bob oh I see, that's 2 entries
[21:03] <Soviet_Bob> yeah
[21:04] <panayiotis> hi
[21:04]  * http is away: Gone away for now
[21:04] <_VIM_> !away > http
[21:04] <Akkernight> how do I use some kind of pastebin?
[21:04] <gigasoft> how to install unrar in ubunu 8.10
[21:04] <ZenMasta> Soviet_Bob when I am in usr/sbin I can't type cd testdisk
[21:05] <the_dark_warrio> gigasoft: sudo apt-get install unrar
[21:05] <Soviet_Bob> testdisk is probably the executable name
[21:05] <sdf2> hi
[21:05] <ZenMasta> Soviet_Bob oh
[21:05] <Soviet_Bob> And therefore you can't cd to it. no file extensions for executables in linux :)
[21:05] <sdf2> anybody have a clue, why i don't have process icons in the upper bar of gnome?
[21:05] <gigasoft>  <the_dark_warrio> : thanks:)))))))
[21:05] <ZenMasta> Soviet_Bob :P
[21:05] <sdf2> like i don't see the active network icon
[21:06] <glitsj16> atari: erUSUL already gave the only reconfigure command i know sorry ... have you tried a websearch on "xorg.conf synaptic" yet ? can't think of anything more usefull right now
[21:06] <Ax3> nOStahl, check out musicbrainz, pretty sure they have linux tools for tagging, http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDownload
[21:06] <nOStahl> k lookng ty
[21:06] <Akkernight> http://pastebin.com/d3d7de8e6  Is anyone familliar with that error?
[21:07] <Ax3> nOStahl, http://musicbrainz.org/doc/AboutMusicBrainz
[21:07] <atari> glitsj16: i just dont know how ubuntu handles the xorg.conf...
[21:07] <atari> glitsj16: thx for the help ;)
[21:07] <Ax3> Akkernight, what context ?
[21:07] <DPic_> why is there a live DVD and CD? What does the live DVD have that the CD doesn't?
[21:07] <ZenMasta> anyone here familiar with photorec? I just launched it but it doesn't show 2 of the drives I have
[21:07] <Soviet_Bob> wait, how is FSB listed? Effective clock or actual clock? on old P4's?
[21:07] <Lord_E> why does the terminal only print a "$" sign and not "user@computer$" when i sudo into another user? root works fine but another user doesn't, and it seems the shell doesn't have quite the same functionality either (tab autocomplete doesn't work, for instance)
[21:07] <dr_willis> live dvd can do alternative, and desktop live installs. i belive.
[21:08] <Ax3> if you don't know the difference, will you really see any difference? LOL
[21:08] <dr_willis> DPic_,  normally one dosent need the dvd.
[21:08] <Ax3> .....
[21:08] <Akkernight> ax3, http://pastebin.com/d46992bd1 that should show all the errors, and what do you mean?
[21:08] <koshari> DPic_ the dvd has more packages
[21:09] <ulaelable> ahhhh why are there 1400 people here
[21:09] <Soviet_Bob> I care because cpu-z told me my FSB was a little under 100mhz..and this is a 2.8ghz Pentium4 Northwood, running at 2.1ghz because the FSB won't change.
[21:09] <Ax3> Akkernight, i meant, what were you doing that gave that error, compiling gcc from source?
[21:09] <DPic_> koshari, which packages? is there a list online somewhere?
[21:09] <Soviet_Bob> and it made me wonder, as I usually see P4s listed with 400mhz and 533mhz FSbs
[21:10] <Akkernight> Ax3, trying to use a shared pointer from the std::tr1 library thing
[21:10] <davide87> i want boot the iso of ubuntu with usb pen
[21:10] <Ax3> Akkernight, i'm not sure this is the proper channel for that then ;)
[21:11] <Akkernight> Ax3, or infact it pops up no matter what... it happens when I have the directories for usr/include and /usr/mingw/include ...
[21:13] <Tentarry> Hey there, is anybody else using a laptop with an ati graphics card in it?
[21:14] <cik> nope, sorry
[21:14] <guntbert> !anyone | Tentarry
[21:14] <Tentarry> ubottu: good point
[21:15] <Soviet_Bob> talkin to the bots again
[21:15] <Tentarry> my question is if anybody else is experiencing graphics corruptions when switching powerstates, ie aticonfig --set-powerstate 1
[21:15] <stabbyjoe12> ubottu hi :)
[21:16] <stabbyjoe12> lol
[21:16] <hatter243> !hi | stabbyjoe12
[21:16] <stabbyjoe12> i love bots
[21:16] <un2him> how do you configure synaptics touchpad in intrepid?  xorg.conf is practically empty
[21:16] <Tentarry> amen
[21:16] <sdf2> join #asm
[21:16] <stabbyjoe12> ubottu: no
[21:17] <stabbyjoe12> didnt mean to type that to the bot
[21:17] <blom1> !grub
[21:17] <Pici> stabbyjoe12: Please stop playing with the bot here. /msg ubottu or /join #ubuntu-bots
[21:17] <stabbyjoe12> i didnt mean to
[21:17] <stabbyjoe12> lol
[21:19] <Tentarry> graphics problems....
[21:20] <glitsj16> un2him: you might take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[21:20] <un2him> glitsj16: thank you, i will check it out
[21:21] <r00tintheb0x> It's quiet in here this after noon.
[21:21] <runpain2> CANT SEEM TO USE PICTURE FOR BACKGROUND OF LOGIN
[21:21] <ZenMasta> I need help in my computers bios. I have a SATA and PATA hd and I'm trying to set the boot priority to SATA, PATA, CDROM, however if the sata and PATA are plugged in at the same time I do not see my SATA drive as an option
[21:21] <Pici> ZenMasta: Thats a bit offtopic for this channel, try askin in ##hardware
[21:22] <bertal> hello
[21:22] <Lord_E> why does the terminal only print a "$" sign and not "user@computer$" when i log in/sudo into that specific user? root works fine but this one doesn't, and it seems the shell doesn't have quite the same functionality either (tab autocomplete doesn't work, for instance)
[21:22] <bertal> #tauchen
[21:22] <ian__> Why isn't the Linux/Ubuntu cstdio.h file working? This is forcing me to go back to Vista -.-
[21:22] <sprinkmeier> Lord_E, using sh instead of bash as a shell? check /etc/passwd for preferred shell
[21:22] <lianimator1> hi, I install DBDesiger4, but I get an error.. no such file libXft.so.1 but there's libXft.so, libXft.so.2, and libXft.so.2.1.2
[21:22] <confrey> hi everybody
[21:23] <stabbyjoe12> ian_ nothing will ever force you to go back to vista
[21:23] <lianimator1> ian__: try cstdio without the .h
[21:23] <sprinkmeier> Lord_E, usermod --shell /bin/bash USERNAME
[21:23] <r00tintheb0x> amen stabbyjoe12
[21:23] <stabbyjoe12> :)
[21:23] <glitsj16> Lord_E: looks like root and the other user have different configuration options set in .bashrc ... that file resides in the respective home folders of both, try to take a look inside and adjust to your needs
[21:23] <istvan_> what is the command to get info on the nvidia driver?
[21:23] <Lord_E> ah, that's it! user: ......./bin/sh instead of /bin/bash :D
[21:23] <ian__> lianimator1, that's not the problem, I havn't included the cstdio.h file, it's reporting errors in GCC or MingW, one of them
[21:24] <Lord_E> thanks a lot!
[21:24] <glitsj16> Lord_E: you're welcome
[21:24] <dsdeiz> hi how do i change the default terminal emulator?
[21:24] <Pici> ian__: Have you tried asking in ##c ? or ##c++ ?
[21:24] <confrey> I've installed 8.10 on my eeepc, I'm using 2.6.27-11, and I compiled rt2860sta driver from ralink source, but nm-applet doesn't recongnize ma wifi, what can I do?
[21:24] <blom1> I'm trying to restore grub; when doing "find /boot/grub/stage1" i get -> (hd0,1),  what values do i put in: root (hdX, Y)?
[21:24] <ian__> pici, nope, will do
[21:24] <confrey> blom
[21:24] <n8tuserf> confrey-> maybe you can try wicd?
[21:25] <confrey> blom1, how much harddisk are you using?
[21:25] <stabbyjoe12> is there a gui grub editor?
[21:25] <blom1> confrey: i have 2 physical harddisks
[21:25] <confrey> n8tuserf, I don't think so, in kde network-manager works
[21:25] <n8tuserf> blom  hd(0.1)
[21:26] <n8tuserf> confrey -> well if you found kde nm to be working why not use it?
[21:26] <blom1> n8tuserf: root hd(0,1)?
[21:26] <michal_> je tu dakto zo slovenkska
[21:26] <n8tuserf> blom  yes
[21:26] <confrey> blom1, well, first number is for the harddisk, ( 0 or 1), second number is for harddisk partition
[21:27] <michal_> haloo
[21:27] <confrey> n8tuserf, because I'm using gnome now, and I don't want to return to kde desktop
[21:27] <Whitor> Hi. I just wanted to say thanks for Ubuntu. and Thank you to everyone who offers support in this channel. I installed ubuntu a year and a half ago and have not booted into windows since. (except to play left 4 dead)  Thanks for such a great product.
[21:27] <blom1> n8tuserf: thanks
[21:27] <confrey> blom1, hd(0,1) is for the SECOND partition of the FIRST disk
[21:28] <LilJ> hola
[21:28] <stabbyjoe12> whitor ubuntu loves you to, he also want to know how you feel about babys
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !es
[21:28] <LilJ> como estas
[21:28] <blom1> confrey: thanks for the info :-)
[21:28]  * Whitor is not so sure about babies
[21:28] <confrey> blom1, :)
[21:28] <erbish> hi
[21:29]  * stabbyjoe12 not even a baby ubuntu we have a teenager ubuntu (mid)
[21:29] <sebsebseb> erbish: hi
[21:29] <hdz> i di sudo gksudo nautils and now my places folders are missing except home
[21:29] <stabbyjoe12> hdz restart?
[21:29] <hdz> i did
[21:29] <hdz> many times
[21:29] <stabbyjoe12> i dunno
[21:29] <hdz> awh man
[21:29] <Whitor> hdz, when you sudo nautilus, it loads as if you are user root
[21:29] <stabbyjoe12> try restarting the x server
[21:29] <stabbyjoe12> cntrl alt backspace
[21:29] <Symmetria> anyone know off hand how to create a ramdisk on the fly in linux without a reboot / setting it up in grub etc?
[21:29] <hdz> i did
[21:29] <blom1> confrey: when using root hd(0,1) , iget the error: "unrecognized device string"
[21:29] <hdz> i did /etc/init.d/ gdm restart
[21:30] <Symmetria> I need to test something and need a 10gig ram disk
[21:30] <Whitor> hdz, when you sudo nautilus, it loads as if you are user root, you won't get your regular favorites etc in nautilus.
[21:30] <hdz> what's the default packages installed with ubuntustudio* when installing hardy?
[21:30] <O__o> hi how come i got some static noise on the screen when i am using dvi-d?
[21:30] <hdz> i think that may have something to do with it cuz i deleted those
[21:30] <Whitor> hdz, quite a few... take a look at ubuntustudio's website
[21:31] <hdz> whit i know but i rebooted it's like stuck like that
[21:31] <guntbert> Symmetria: out of curiosity: how much ram do you have?
[21:31] <Whitor> hdz, stuck like what ?
[21:31] <Symmetria> gunsch in that machine? 64gig
[21:31] <hdz> stuck like if you did sudo gksudo nautils
[21:32] <hdz> i log in as turtle, still shows nautils running as root
[21:32] <grendal_prime> what the heck....all of the sudden my vlc will not play sound from my 3gp files...
[21:32] <pvtpete> hi
[21:32]  * guntbert is awed by 64GB ram
[21:32] <Whitor> hdz, weird... no idea
[21:32] <hdz> shit
[21:32] <stabbyjoe12> 64 gig of ram:O
[21:32] <hdz> oop sorry
[21:32] <macman> need some help guys on mounting my external .. its been working for forever until right now http://i43.tinypic.com/29zd5cy.png < ---
[21:32] <stabbyjoe12> i thought my 8 gig was plenty
[21:32] <pvtpete> can anyone advise me on how I can set up an ethernet to ethernet connection? :)
[21:33] <spamhater4life> how do you kill a process in terminal... i need to find its id, how do i find that?
[21:33] <LilJ> how do i get ubuntu
[21:33] <Whitor> pvtpete, got a switch or hub ?
[21:33] <stabbyjoe12> pvtpete i get that when i dont diconnect it properely from windows
[21:33] <jpds> guntbert: I've heard of servers with 128GB myself, there's probably some with more *shrug*
[21:33] <Whitor> lilj, get the iso from the website
[21:33] <pvtpete> I've got a router but the two ubuntu machine's can't see each other
[21:33] <Whitor> pvtpete, what are their ip addresses ?
[21:34] <pvtpete> let me see
[21:34] <pvtpete> go to pm ? :)
[21:34] <Whitor> pvtpete, you don't want to use a router... you want a swithc or a hub
[21:34] <Whitor> actually... I have to go now.
[21:34] <pvtpete> why's that ?
[21:34] <glitsj16> spamhater4life: pidof <procesname> will return the id, using killall <procesname> might be another option
[21:34] <guntbert> spamhater4life: 1) ps aux |grep -i <command>, 2)kill <found pid>
[21:35] <blom1> I'm trying to restore grub; when doing "find /boot/grub/stage1" i get -> (hd0,1),  what values do i put in: root (hdX, Y)?
[21:35] <tobberoth> crap, I installed Ubuntu and now windows won't boot :( something must have gotten messed up during the partitioning >_< I think the windows partition is still intact (I didn't touch it during the partition), is there anyway to fix it? (or at least access it...)
[21:36] <confrey> blom1, are you using the installation  where do you wont to restore grub in?
[21:36] <stabbyjoe12> tobberoth insert you windows disk and repair startup
[21:36] <macman> bmany advice guys http://i43.tinypic.com/29zd5cy.png
[21:37] <stabbyjoe12> then download easy hfs and add ubuntu to your bootlaoder
[21:37] <tobberoth> stabbyjoe12: I already did use fixmbr, grub wouldn't start after the ubuntu install. atm grub works fine and ubuntu boots fine, the windows partition seem to be the only problem :(
[21:37] <LilJ> i cant get on those internets
[21:37] <tobberoth> stabbyjoe12: Should be noted, mount.ntfs-3g won't let me mount it, claiming it isn't a proper NTFS partition
[21:38] <blom1> confrey: i'm using the livecd, i installed xp which overwritten grub
[21:38] <podman99a> hey all... looking for a VPN server which is compatible with XP/Vista VPN client?? any ideas
[21:38] <podman99a> pptp was an option but apparently its not very secure?
[21:38] <Viaken> Has anyone else had what I can only describe as "modem noise" come out the sound card speakers during login? Even with the login sound disabled and all sound playback and recording set to ALSA?
[21:38] <confrey> blom1, so have you a linux system with grub installed?
[21:39] <eraldo_x> which picture file format would be best to chose as ubuntu background image?
[21:39] <confrey> blom1, in the harddisk I mean
[21:39] <eraldo_x> jpeg bpm png?
[21:39] <_VIM_> eraldo_x: png probably
[21:39] <space_cadet> with nvidia 9600gsm, whenever i play music in mplayer or try to "record video" from my webcam, i see what appears to be "the checker board effect"
[21:39] <blom1> confrey: yes, ubuntu 8.10
[21:39] <eraldo_x> _VIM_: okay, thanks
[21:40] <space_cadet> currently using the 177 drivers
[21:40] <fiber_cut> I just installed the netwbook remix on my eeepc and it kind isnt that great
[21:40] <confrey> blom1, I thunk tha faster way is to create a bootable usb stick, wiith grub, the  booting system using the grub shell by usbstick
[21:40] <space_cadet> uname -r = 2.6.27-11-generic
[21:40] <confrey> then booting
[21:40] <fiber_cut> thought it would be much better bit is isnt
[21:40] <rmmRMM> ive been wondering abt that netbook remix
[21:40] <LilJ> i cant get on those internets so i cant get ubuntu
[21:40] <Toba_> http://des.truct.org/tmp/apt-404.log
[21:41] <rmmRMM> "dumbed down"?
[21:41] <Toba_> I haven't configured any apt stuff
[21:41] <space_cadet> hello?
[21:41] <Toba_> this is what feisty is doing without any changes on my part
[21:41] <Viaken> Sound works fine at the login screen, and works fine thereafter. It's only immediately on login that the problem occurs.
[21:41] <space_cadet> !help
[21:41] <blom1> confrey: i'm using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[21:41] <Viaken> ...can anyone tell me where the login sound is located on disk?
[21:41] <space_cadet> !nvidia
[21:42] <space_cadet> anyone?
[21:42] <space_cadet> with nvidia 9600gsm, whenever i play music in mplayer or try to "record video" from my webcam, i see what appears to be "the checker board effect"
[21:42] <space_cadet> currently using the 177 drivers
[21:42] <confrey> blom1, ok,then you are trying to chroot in the linux installation, so you must mount /dev, mtab and so on, and then chroot in the installed system, and then must run grub
[21:43] <confrey> blom1, you can do the same, esasly, by the grub shell
[21:43] <space_cadet> HELLO?
[21:44] <koro> what version of xorg does ubuntu 8.10 use?
[21:44] <grendal_prime> what video codec do i need to install to play back sarm audio?
[21:44] <_VIM_> !patience | space_cadet
[21:44] <runpain2> CANT SEEM TO USE A PICTURE FOR BACKGROUND OF LOGIN I AM USING REGAULAr login with clock
[21:44] <guntbert> !shout | runpain2
[21:44] <blom1> confrey: yes.. im on grub right now, but what does the root (hdX, Y) refer to  when i have (hd0, 1) when doing : grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 ?
[21:45] <confrey> blom1, use a usb stick, do an 'install-mbr ' to it, do a grub-install to it, create a /boot dir, a /boot/grub dir, copy int it the manu.lst you can find in your installed 8.10, abd boot from usbstick
[21:45] <runpain2> sorry had the caps on and did not see it
[21:45] <space_cadet> gee people sure are on top of those ! | commands, but no one seems to want to help
[21:45] <runpain2> ya i see space_cadet
[21:45] <ZenMasta> can someone help me mount an NTFS drive? sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 doesn't work for me
[21:46] <space_cadet> runpain2, how have you tried to set the background
[21:46] <runpain2> the login manager
[21:46] <space_cadet> ZenMasta, what does it say when it doesn't work
[21:46] <ZenMasta> I mean... sudo mount -t ntfs /media/sata /dev/sda1 (it says Error opening '/media/sata': Is a directory
[21:46] <ZenMasta> Failed to mount '/media/sata': Is a directory
[21:47] <fmagno> Anyone suggests a nice agenda program for ubuntu?
[21:47] <runpain2> BRB
[21:47] <sprinkmeier> ZenMasta, device first, then mountpoint: sudo mount -t ntfs  /dev/sda1  /media/sata
[21:47] <Ax3> ur doing it wrong ZenMasta
[21:47] <Picassotamus> ZenMasta: Did you mix up your source and destination?
[21:47] <space_cadet> yah.
[21:48] <_VIM_> fmagno: hmm maybe kontact if you don't mind a few libs
[21:48] <guntbert> ZenMasta: you are doing it the wrong way, exchange /media/sata and /dev...
[21:48] <_VIM_> fmagno: kde libs i meant
[21:48] <Ax3> ZenMasta, <device> then <mountpoint>
[21:48] <BeerMonkey> hey guys, having trouble installing themes in ubuntu anyone can help?
[21:48] <ZenMasta> thanks guys, but
[21:48] <ZenMasta> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /media/sata /dev/sda1
[21:48] <ZenMasta> Error opening '/media/sata': Is a directory
[21:48] <ZenMasta> Failed to mount '/media/sata': Is a directory
[21:48] <ZenMasta> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sata
[21:48] <ZenMasta> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[21:48] <FloodBot2> ZenMasta: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <runpain2> all i can do is use color
[21:48] <Ax3> idiot
[21:48] <_VIM_> !themes > BeerMonkey
[21:48] <fmagno> _VIM_ thank you
[21:48] <space_cadet> !pastebin > zenmasta
[21:49] <blom1> confrey: i already have an usb stick with ubuntu in it.. i just need the values of root (hdX, Y) from this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[21:49] <deany> !virus
[21:49] <Str1ke> fmagno: like a todo list? I just have a todo textfile which I display in an embedded terminal on my desktop with "tail -f", so that it updates when I modify the textfile
[21:49] <istvan> I am sorry, my internet failed on me. how do I check what nvidia driver I am using?
[21:49] <guntbert> Ax3: please stay polite :)
[21:49] <stabbyjoe12> xorg confg
[21:50] <Str1ke> i have a serious problem with ubuntu. i'll be on windows doing something then the screen will go blank then ubuntu will load up. why does it do that?
[21:50] <Ax3> guntbert, sorry, i just hate people who think that this is THEIR channel, and they can just flood everybody, it's rude ;)
[21:50] <stabbyjoe12> or go to hardware drivers in the system menu
[21:50] <fmagno> has to be good :) 140MB
[21:50] <_VIM_> fmagno: np, themes are usually pretty easy to install, just drag and drop the gz file or whatever to the theme manager window, do NOT decompress that file
[21:50] <sprinkmeier>  Str1ke sounds like a windows problem, not a ubuntu one...
[21:50] <ZenMasta> i just used the paste bin
[21:50] <space_cadet> istvan, system > administration > hardware drivers
[21:50] <poet> with the most recent update to 8.10 my broadcom card no longer works and the restricted driver does not show up in the drivers section
[21:50] <space_cadet> ZenMasta, paste the url now.
[21:50] <istvan> I installed a new driver, and it says 'a different version of this is in use' but it doesn't say which
[21:50] <_VIM_> fmagno: oops sorry i meant that for someone else :)
[21:51] <poet> any ideas?
[21:51] <confrey> blom1, well, the answer is very simple... in which harddisk and in which partitioon did you installed 8.10?
[21:51] <ZenMasta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132710/
[21:51] <guntbert> Ax3: I understand, still - we all want to keep it friendly - no offense intended or taken :)
[21:51] <space_cadet> hmm
[21:51] <mylisto> Wondering if anyone has ever used recordmydesktop
[21:51] <nightdrever> can u install opensuse 11.2 with instlux?
[21:51] <_VIM_> i have, never could get it working mylisto
[21:51] <_VIM_> :(
[21:51] <Ax3> guntbert,  :)
[21:51] <space_cadet> is the drive in use?
[21:51] <space_cadet> or the directory?
[21:52] <fmagno> Str1ke, I'm looking for a program that shows a calendar and I can add appointments and ToDo's. Reminders, etc
[21:52] <ZenMasta> space_cadet I just created the directory for the mount, the drive should not be in use I just booted up (using live cd)
[21:52] <jfjuno> hello everyone
[21:52] <nightdrever> ok how do i get to the opensuse page?
[21:52] <nightdrever> chat room i mean
[21:52] <poet> with the most recent update to 8.10 my broadcom card no longer works and the restricted driver does not show up in the drivers section. any ideas? problem seems to be posted here as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6902701
[21:52] <Ax3> nightdrever, /j #sus
[21:52] <Ax3> nightdrever, /j #suse *
[21:52] <Str1ke> fmagno: check out Google Calendar..probably not what you wanted to hear, but it works okay for me.
[21:53] <runpain2> how do i find out the resolution of the boot and login screen
[21:53] <tobberoth> Could the person who helped me with my boot problem PM me?
[21:53] <istvan> so how do I check to see what version of the driver is installed? I want to see but it doesn't tell me in the drivers app
[21:53] <guntbert> ZenMasta: pastebin the output of mount, please
[21:53] <blom1> confrey: i got it to work, i had a typo :-D
[21:53] <fmagno> Str1ke, it's not a bad idea indeed
[21:53] <ZenMasta> space_cadet when I double click the SATA drive in the filebrowser it says the same thing
[21:53] <jfjuno> I've run into a rather odd error, upon booting my computer this morning the tabs that normally display on the top right had corner of the panel have disappeared
[21:54] <jfjuno> for no apparent reason
[21:54] <mylisto> _vim_: what was wrong...audio issues?
[21:54] <guntbert> !pm | tobberoth
[21:54] <space_cadet> ZenMasta, can you view more info when you double click it?
[21:54] <jfjuno> can anyone help me get 'em back?
[21:54] <_VIM_> mylisto: mainly audio issues, yeah
[21:54] <space_cadet> ZenMasta, when the error comes up
[21:54] <mylisto> I can get recordmydesktop to record video perfectly...but no audio
[21:54] <_VIM_> the video is choppy for me too
[21:54] <aspoor> use a program called compat.  It setsup your WAN it is all automated and you just run sudo make uninstall, sudo make, sudo make install
[21:54] <_VIM_> mylisto: have you tried istanbul?
[21:54] <mylisto> _vim_: what kind of audio issues?
[21:55] <_VIM_> !info istanbul
[21:55] <stabbyjoe12> is it me or the bot talking more than anyone else
[21:55] <ZenMasta> Opening "250GB Media "you can stop this operation by clicking cancel....then after a few seconds it says, unable to mount location "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply:Did not receive a reply. Possible causes included: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timed out expired, or the network connection was broken.
[21:55] <tobberoth> After installing Ubuntu, my partitioning table must have been messed up. By using the windows CD, I was able to fixmbr and now grub works, so does the ubuntu partition. The windows partition however won't boot and running CHKDSK gives "the volume appears to contain unrecoverable problems"
[21:55] <_VIM_> mylisto: audio issues like, no sound at all or when it did work sounded like chipmunk
[21:56] <space_cadet> ZenMasta, try this     ls -lh /dev/mapper
[21:56] <space_cadet> If your partition is indicated there, it means its busy.
[21:56] <mylisto> _vim_:
[21:56] <mylisto> did you try turning on mic capture?
[21:56] <BeerMonkey> its still not letting me install themes
[21:56] <istvan> is there a command to see what version of the nvidia driver I am using?
[21:56] <BeerMonkey> i know how im supposed to do it i did it on my last installation but ive formatted and now i get and error message "Can't move directory over directory"
[21:57] <_VIM_> mylisto: yeah i tried everything
[21:57] <pvtpete> whitor?
[21:57] <cdenny> for a theme im trying to install, it says i need gtk engine "aurora", I cant find it
[21:57] <glisignoli> how would I send a file from a server over ssh to a windows machine?
[21:57] <mylisto> have you gotten any program to work?
[21:57] <poet> with the most recent update to 8.10 my broadcom card no longer works and the restricted driver does not show up in the drivers section. any ideas? problem seems to be posted here as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6902701.  Also, it's no longer recognized in lspci
[21:57] <cdenny> its not in package manager
[21:57] <Newk> i have a laptop runnin 8.10 which is runnin on an external monitor, only problem is the sound runs through the laptop not the external monitor
[21:57] <pvtpete> any network guru's in here? :)
[21:57] <Brandano> Any idea why my icons and my gnome heme disappeared suddenly? my .icons and .themes folders are empty
[21:57] <_VIM_> mylisto: i only know istanbul and recordmydesktop, im not aware of any other ones
[21:58] <sprinkmeier> glisignoli, putty from windows. it comes with an scp client. failing that winscp
[21:58] <sprinkmeier> !putty | glisignoli
[21:58] <ZenMasta> space_cadet also, in a different window it says unable to mount volume... Details: fuse: mount failed: device or resource busy.    When I type ls -lh /dev/mapper it says ls: cannot access /dev/mapper: No such file or directory
[21:58] <cdenny> i cant find gtk+ engine aurora, its not in synaptic, what do I do>
[21:58] <guntbert> pvtpete: network talks in ##networking please
[21:58] <pvtpete> ok
[21:58] <vampirnata> hi all
[21:58] <pvtpete> thanks guntbert
[21:58] <space_cadet> ZenMasta, yah, i just got that too.
[21:58] <mylisto> _vim_: you get istanbul to work...tried it...audio sucks
[21:58] <_VIM_> !PPA | cdenny (maybe someone packaged one)...
[21:58] <jfjuno> my drop down menus mysteriously disappeared from the top left panel, anyone have an idea of how to get them back?
[21:59] <_VIM_> mylisto: yeah istanbul was no better than recordmydesktop for me
[21:59] <entrooo> join #math
[21:59] <_VIM_> entrooo: id rather not
[21:59] <ZenMasta> space_cadet here's what I'm ttrying to do, I have a 20gb hd with fedora 3 or 4 on it, I can't boot to the drive so I'm trying to backup files to another HD which happends to be the NTFS SATA drive
[21:59] <_VIM_> ;)
[21:59] <entrooo> my bad, I forgot the forward slash
[22:00] <dr_willis> entrooo,  i hear all the hot chicks hang out in #math
[22:00] <vampirnata> are there any differences if I install kubuntu rather than just adding the kde packages to ubuntu?
[22:00] <entrooo> haha
[22:00] <_VIM_> entrooo: i know, i just like to give people a hard time when they do that :)
[22:00] <dr_willis> vampirnata,   You will get both desktops that way.. and thats  how i normally do it. :)
[22:00] <stabbyjoe12> vampirata yeah youl have millions of gnome apps
[22:00] <Midaz> OP
[22:00] <entrooo> understandable :D
[22:00] <vampirnata> but i want millions of gnome apps :)
[22:00] <dr_willis> vampirnata,  thats the way to do it.
[22:00] <vampirnata> and i want the million kde apps
[22:01] <vampirnata> great, thanks
[22:01] <dr_willis> vampirnata,  more apps then you can shake a mouse at
[22:01] <dr_willis> vampirnata,  can lead to cluttered menus.. but  thats the price of POWER!
[22:01] <_VIM_> that's what keeps me on Ubuntu, so many apps
[22:01] <aclonedsheep> if testdisk didnt find a lost partition am I f#$#$Ked?
[22:01] <Brandano> how can I reset the default Gnome theme?
[22:01] <vampirnata> i'm trying to put together a set of apps for a media centre laptop
[22:01] <elli222> I cant see anything wrong with this line of script, apparently it has "too many arguments"
[22:01] <elli222> if [ $ANS = y ] -o [ $ANS = yes ] ; then
[22:01] <_VIM_> !theme > Brandano
[22:01] <stabbyjoe12> dr_wilis what do you men by both desktops?
[22:01] <elli222> any help appreciated
[22:01] <vampirnata> don't like mythbuntu
[22:01] <dr_willis> stabbyjoe12,  you can easially have gnome and kde and xfce, and a dozen + other window managers all installed
[22:02] <space_cadet> ZenMasta, try       sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sata -o force
[22:02] <dr_willis> stabbyjoe12,  just install. and pick what one to use at the GDM screen menus.
[22:02] <milll> whats good to Restore/Recover a hard disk
[22:02] <elli222> fsck
[22:02] <milll> whats good to Restore/Recover a hard disk, that does not mount.
[22:02] <stabbyjoe12> dr_willis gdm menus?
[22:02] <milll> elli222: the disk is not mounting...
[22:02] <dr_willis> stabbyjoe12,  yes.. GDM the login window.. has menus.
[22:02] <elli222> mmm
[22:02] <istvan> I can't beleave that people aren't all shouting the answer to this: is there a shell command for seeing the nvidia driver info?
[22:02] <ZenMasta> space_cadet same error
[22:02] <milll> elli222: the disk, its 'sdb1' is missing, only /Dev/sdb exist
[22:02] <stabbyjoe12> dr_willis ooo i see
[22:02] <dr_willis> stabbyjoe12,  yes.. GDM the login Screen :). has menus.
[22:02] <stabbyjoe12> thats sounds cool
[22:03] <jfjuno> where can I control the presence of the dropdown menus?
[22:03] <dr_willis> stabbyjoe12,   this is linux.. of course its cool.
[22:03] <milll> elli222: and seems fsck is not working , but smartctl reports info on the disk, so the disk is alive
[22:03] <_VIM_> milll: puppy linux is pretty good at that kind of thing,
[22:03] <stabbyjoe12> dr_willis indeeeed, but im not gonan install kde its taken me so long to get my triple screen working in gnome
[22:03] <elli222> milll: maybe your missing a kernel module or a filesystem mounter
[22:03] <dr_willis> stabbyjoe12,  the screen/mionitor settings should also work in kde.
[22:03] <vampirnata> new kde is pretty
[22:04] <_VIM_> vampirnata: is 4.2 out yet for Kubuntu?
[22:04] <vampirnata> vim: no idea
[22:04] <stabbyjoe12> dr_willis i find videos card support is more patchy in kde
[22:04] <elli222> if [ $ANS = y ] -o [ $ANS = yes ] ; then    <<< whats wrong with this line of script?
[22:04] <guntbert> elli222: about your script: ask in #bash
[22:04] <vampirnata> vim: 4.1 is pretty
[22:04] <Fenix|work> Greetings...
[22:04] <elli222> k
[22:04] <_VIM_> yeah it is
[22:04] <_VIM_> !hi | Fenix|work
[22:04] <Fenix|work> How does one get nVidia TwinView settings to stick?
[22:04] <vampirnata> bit slow on older hardware though
[22:05] <mylisto> _vim_: you ever try recording the audio with jack?
[22:05] <stabbyjoe12> fenix sudo nvidia-settings
[22:05] <milll> elli222: the disk was working before the pc cable was disconnected and now it wont mount
[22:05] <mylisto> in tandem with recordmydesktop?
[22:05] <vampirnata> so currently i am using fluxbox which i like
[22:05] <dr_willis> stabbyjoe12,  err... video card is supported by X. the desktop shouldent matter much.. unless theres some xpecific xcinerama/twinview issues with some of them.
[22:05] <_VIM_> mylisto: yeah but that was like a year ago, im not really a sound person, so it didnt work out too well lol
[22:05] <Brandano> _VIM_ thanks, apparently it was bonobo screwing up. Killing it seems to have fixed things
[22:05] <elli222> milll, i am not the guy to ask...
[22:05] <milll>  reiserfs_open: the reiserfs superblock cannot be found on /dev/sdb
[22:05] <milll> k
[22:06] <elli222> i was simply making a suggestion...
[22:06] <space_cadet> hmm
[22:06] <space_cadet> out of ideas
[22:06] <mylisto> _vim_: going to try getting something to work...if I find a solution I'll let you know
[22:06] <_VIM_> ok ty :)
[22:06] <agroker> I need to contact my friend who uses gtalk, is pidgin the best option?
[22:07] <space_cadet> agroker well it depends
[22:07] <space_cadet> agroker, are you going to be wanting to voice?
[22:08] <brandonban6> what is path for the sources file again?
[22:08] <agroker> space_cadet, no, just text
[22:08] <SeViLLa> where can i find some good documentation for compilng and installing from source for ubuntu
[22:08] <cje> hi, I am having real problems with my screen resolution
[22:08] <space_cadet> then pidgin is the best agroker
[22:08] <cje> I can't change my screen resolution
[22:08] <brandonban6> !sources
[22:08] <dr_willis> !source | SeViLLa
[22:08] <dr_willis> !compile | SeViLLa
[22:08] <space_cadet> agroker, and so you know, I have a writeup on voice to yahoo/gtalk   on ubuntuforums
[22:09] <space_cadet> agroker i got voice working in linux!! :)
[22:09] <agroker> space_cadet, link by chance?
[22:09] <space_cadet> agroker, it's still REALLY buggy
[22:09] <space_cadet> but
[22:09] <jfjuno> hey, does anyone know how to restore the drop down menus in the top left hand panel?
[22:10] <stabbyjoe12> how is office 2007 support in wine? it was patchy a year ago
[22:10] <SeViLLa> ubottu: thanks
[22:10] <_VIM_> !panels | jfjuno
[22:10] <jfjuno> mine have suddenly disappeared
[22:10] <space_cadet> agroker, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278
[22:11] <stefan_can> or you could add the main menu to the panel  right click and add item
[22:12] <agroker> space_cadet, tnx, will have a look
[22:12] <space_cadet> kuul
[22:12] <jfjuno> ubottu, thanks!
[22:12] <jfjuno> oh
[22:12] <jfjuno> wow
[22:12] <space_cadet> anyone else want to help finish linux to yahoo voice ??
[22:12] <stabbyjoe12> ubotto is special he knows all
[22:12] <jfjuno> lol
[22:12] <jfjuno> I should have caught on to that way earlier than I did
[22:13] <stabbyjoe12> you should have
[22:13] <stabbyjoe12> lol
[22:13] <grendal_prime> i just want to be able to hear the audio on my 3gp phone videos
[22:13] <stabbyjoe12> no one person has that much knowledge that quickly
[22:13] <space_cadet> with google, all is possible
[22:13] <stabbyjoe12> grendal_prime try vlc
[22:13] <grendal_prime> im usint vlc
[22:13] <grendal_prime> it use to work..it just stoped
[22:13] <stabbyjoe12> have u tryed a different audi track?>
[22:13] <grendal_prime> yes
[22:13] <grendal_prime> tones of them
[22:14] <stabbyjoe12> how about changing to sm player of something/
[22:14] <entrooo> How do I check what wireless card I have within ubuntu?
[22:14] <space_cadet> anyone??
[22:14] <grendal_prime> it actually throws this error
[22:14] <mrwes> entrooo, from the terminal tpype lspci
[22:14] <grendal_prime> main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `samr'.
[22:14] <grendal_prime> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[22:14] <entrooo> mrwes thank you
[22:14] <mrwes> entrooo, it's usually towards the bottom
[22:14] <stabbyjoe12> grendal_prime unlikyl its vlc!
[22:15] <agroker> space_cadet, but IMHO Yahoo won't survive untill the end of the year, so better is to concentrate or something more persistent
[22:15] <KingWilliam> agroker, what makes you think Yahoo is dieing?
[22:16] <space_cadet> agroker yah, they are higher than they were in NOV...
[22:16] <agroker> KingWilliam, their financial situation
[22:16] <schummelpilz> problem: uhci_hcd starts on every system startup, although i have it blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Any ideas why?
[22:16] <agroker> let me be wrong then
[22:16] <KingWilliam> agroker, Never heard about the fact it is bad :)
[22:16] <grendal_prime> well im sure its just a codec i need to install but i cant find the damn thing
[22:16] <rfleming> greetings
[22:17] <space_cadet> anyway, EVERYONE interested..  here is the beginning of the ability to call a Yahoo user from linux... take a peek please and help.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278 <<
[22:17] <rfleming> How do I get ubuntu desktop to NOT use the network connection manager?  I have two nics and want to configure different routes for each...
[22:17] <cje> hi, anyone here familiar with changing screen resolutions?
[22:18] <cdenny> when i try to install a theme I get the error, "cannot install directory over directory"
[22:18] <agroker> KingWilliam, still, what Yahoo make money from?
[22:18] <space_cadet> agroker, ads.
[22:18] <cdenny>  when i try to install a theme I get the error, "cannot install directory over directory"
[22:18] <KingWilliam> agroker, their datacenter?
[22:18] <agroker> space_cadet, thanks Gawd for AdBlock+
[22:18] <deany> question.  ive got a netbook in my posession, its got hardy installed...  I wanna install hedgewars, but from getdeb.net is only for intrepid.. but  hedgewars-data is in the repo for the netbook, butt heres no shortcut or anything to "run" when i installed it.. can i install the intrepid version?
[22:18] <space_cadet> agroker, and paid for services >> mail plus
[22:18] <space_cadet> sbc
[22:19] <space_cadet> etc.
[22:19] <agroker> KingWilliam, just recently I read somewhere about substantial layoffs at Yahoo, usually it is a bad sign
[22:19] <space_cadet> agroker, here in MI yahoo is part of AT&T
[22:19] <cdenny>  when i try to install a theme I get the error, "cannot install directory over directory"
[22:19] <agroker> space_cadet, I've never met a single person who'd use mail plus, but perhaps I live under the rock ;-)
[22:19] <stabbyjoe12> agroker no ur rright
[22:19] <space_cadet> agroker, it comes with SBC Yahoo Internet access.
[22:19] <stabbyjoe12> i havent either
[22:20] <KingWilliam> agroker, that is true. It is certainly losing ground, but I wouldn't say they won't make the end of the year :P
[22:20] <isleshocky771> Could anyone lend some ideas as to why I can't get gnome-do 0.8 installed? I've put the correct ppa's in and I don't have any errors when running upgrade.
[22:20] <space_cadet> actually KingWilliam, i doubt many companies will last till the end of the year.
[22:20] <agroker> KingWilliam, not that I wish them bad (who am I anyway), but it is tragic to see how once good companies are screwing up
[22:20] <jfjuno> anyways, thanks all, I'll be back eventually I'm sure
[22:21] <dsdeiz> where do you usually find .lnk files? i tried using locate but couldn't find any
[22:21] <KingWilliam> space_cadet, damn economy!!! :P
[22:21] <space_cadet> agroker, KingWilliam well that's what happens when the government backs companies,   they make REALLY bad decisions....
[22:21] <meoblast001> hi
[22:21] <meoblast001> how do i fix this "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)"
[22:21] <guubaa> hi all'
[22:21] <agroker> following jfjuno's question - I have a single item on the Applications menu (under Gnome) which I cannot remove, namely "ATI Control" - where to look for its config whatever?
[22:21] <guubaa> ubuntu RULES
[22:22] <agroker> space_cadet, by any means I'm against monopoly of google on the search market, monocultures are always evil
[22:22] <guubaa> how to installl oracle 11 g '
[22:22] <guubaa> ?
[22:22] <XPS_M1330> I read the whole command line option of ls and I can't figure out how to search for a file
[22:22] <guubaa> any help about oraclle?
[22:23] <xun> hello, does anyone how to change the gFTP idle timeout?
[22:23] <yharrow> Hi can someone help with audio problems on Jaunty?
[22:23] <XPS_M1330> I want to search for xorg.conf in / so in the root directory I typed ls -R . xorg.conf but it just lists the whole filesystem
[22:23] <_VIM_> !ot
[22:23] <KingWilliam> guubaa, I remember there are packages ou there
[22:23] <Dreamglider> XPS_M1330: man find
[22:23] <jrib> XPS_M1330: yes, because that is what ls does.
[22:23] <KingWilliam> guubaa, there once were though
[22:23] <bigrigger> XPS_M1330: find /path/ -name 'term*'  supports wildcards, no path given uses current dir.
[22:23] <XPS_M1330> thank you
[22:24] <yharrow> All of my SDL apps no longer have sound. Anyone know how to make them work again?
[22:24] <jrib> XPS_M1330: « locate xorg.conf »
[22:24] <snowveil> when I enable the mode: Option "Rotate" "left"  in my xorg.conf the ability to use Xrandr in terminal stops, anyone have an idea why?
[22:24] <space_cadet> so... anyone know why my nvidia drivers are causing video (namely video from my cam, and generated video from mplayer) to have the "checkerboard effect"?
[22:24] <space_cadet> currently using the 177 drivers
[22:24] <space_cadet> uname -r = 2.6.27-11-generic
[22:24] <SpuddlyMcMartin> hello!
[22:24] <entrooo> How do I install a .patch file?
[22:24] <yharrow> hi
[22:25] <jrib> entrooo: you probably want to be more detailed
[22:25] <Gnea> !patch | entrooo
[22:25] <entrooo> I'll take a look, thank you
[22:26]  * t1ger having an issue with SATA and DVB card.
[22:26] <blom1> please tell me how do i install grub
[22:26] <SpuddlyMcMartin> guys i need help! Im new to linux, im trying to install FREECIV. Where can i read installation instructions?
[22:26] <yharrow> I'm running jaunty and suddenly all my SDL apps including tremulous have no sound
[22:26] <_VIM_> !grub | blom1
[22:26] <newfag> hye guys, can you recomment a good ftp server to me? maybe one with a gui?
[22:26] <_VIM_> SpuddlyMcMartin: freeciv should be in the repos
[22:26] <mickeyl> hi, i'm running intrepid and have a problem with fonts. I'm running the GNOME desktop and all Gtk apps have beautiful fonts. Occasionally I run kde apps and their fonts look as if they're not antialiased properly. systemsettings (kde) shows that I'm using antialiasing though. Any idea what could be wrong?
[22:26] <SpuddlyMcMartin> im sorry, repos?
[22:27] <jrib> !software | SpuddlyMcMartin
[22:27] <user____> yharrow: #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <yharrow> SpuddlyMcMartin, Accessories > Terminal > sudo aptitude install freeciv
[22:27] <yharrow> SpuddlyMcMartin, or Add/Remove application > search for freeciv
[22:27] <SpuddlyMcMartin> ok ok
[22:28] <SpuddlyMcMartin> thank you!!
[22:28] <blom1> _VIM_: what if i don't have a menu.lst?
[22:28] <Patric3> What should the file size of "ubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso" be ?
[22:28] <t1ger> How can I add parameters to an module that's in the kernel ?
[22:28] <yharrow> SpuddlyMcMartin,  no problem
[22:28] <rdz> hi all. the area of the window border to resize a window is very small and i would like to increase it. how can i do that?
[22:28] <space_cadet> Patric3, the best way to verify if you have the correct iso is to md5sum it
[22:29] <Patric3> space_cadet: Have a look at ftp://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs-Ubuntu/8.10/release/.  The size of "ubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso" is 303 MB which looks incorrect to me
[22:29] <pvtpete> hi hi ubuntu - I asked the network guys about not being able to see other networked computers in the file browser and they said I should talk to you
[22:29] <pvtpete> :)
[22:29] <_VIM_> blom1:  you don thave /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[22:30] <space_cadet> Patric3, File:ubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso  	4490892 KB  	10/30/2008  	02:29:00
[22:30] <_VIM_> blom1: sudo update-grub     perhaps might fix that, but im no grub expert
[22:31] <space_cadet> 4.4 gig
[22:31] <Squarc> Hey guys, I have this problem and I did google, but I just don't get it...
[22:31] <Squarc> I wrote this little script to automaticly mount and bind some folders, start lampp, and execute a export command to make a wine app work that requires ODBC...
[22:31] <Squarc> Now I want to execute the file on startup, but by setting it so using the System Settings GUI it won't work somehow... partitions wont get mounted, binds dont get done, lampp isnt started and the export isnt executed either.... what file should I edit to make the script run automaticly on startup?
[22:31] <FloodBot2> Squarc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <SpuddlyMcMartin> i just used aptitude install
[22:31] <SpuddlyMcMartin> where do i go to launch?
[22:32] <salvatore_> buona sera atutti
[22:32] <salvatore_> buona sera a tutti
[22:32] <Patric3> space_cadet: Within our organisation we have to download "large" files via FTP.  I can find 4.4 GB files for "ubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso" via HTTP all over the place.  All the FTP versions of "ubuntu-8.10-dvd-i386.iso" appear to be 303 MB
[22:32] <mugedom> hi all
[22:32] <agroker> !italian | salvatore_
[22:32] <_VIM_> SpuddlyMcMartin: try typing freeciv in a terminal    (alt + F2)  or applications > Accessories > Terminal
[22:33] <pedahzur> I've googled and found nothing. A perl script I'm using wants Crypt::TripleDES but neither debian nor Ubuntu package it.  Anyone know of a deb for it?  Or should I break down and just launch /usr/bin/cpan?
[22:33] <SpuddlyMcMartin> _VIM_: said command was not found
[22:33] <Patric3> space_cadet: Compare the following:
[22:33] <Patric3> space_cadet: ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/intrepid/release/
[22:33] <Patric3> space_cadet: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/?C=D;O=A
[22:34] <Patric3> space_cadet: What's up what that ?!
[22:34] <blue_e> Hey guys, I need some help. I had a dual boot of Vista and Ubuntu set up, but I messed up the boot loader so I restored the Windows boot loader. I couldn't access the Ubuntu partition but it was still installed there. Now I want to format that partition and do a clean Ubuntu install, but I don't have the option to format it with GParted using the Ubuntu live cd.. anyone know what I should do?
[22:34] <Patric3> space_cadet: What's up *with* that
[22:34] <_VIM_> SpuddlyMcMartin: hmm did you get any errors in that install?
[22:34] <schummelpilz_> problem: uhci_hcd starts on every system startup, although i have it blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Any ideas why?
[22:34] <axisys> on a laptop if I hibernate how do I restart it? if it is specific to laptop then I am using hp nc6220
[22:34] <Squarc> blue_e: why don't you restore the grub bootloader?
[22:34] <SpuddlyMcMartin> _VIM_: i didnt think so, should i attempt to reinstall/
[22:34] <SpuddlyMcMartin> ?
[22:35] <blue_e> I could do that, but I want a clean install
[22:35] <Squarc> blue_e: ok
[22:35] <agroker> blue_e, how come GParted does not see that previously formatted partition?
[22:35] <blue_e> GParted sees the partition, but I don't have the option to format it
[22:36] <Squarc> blue_e: as in: GParted dousnt show you the option, or you don't want to somehow.. ?
[22:36] <blue_e> The option is grayed out
[22:36] <Squarc> ok
[22:36] <XPS_M1330> someone told me about this command-line program, it makes suggestions on how to reduce power consumption. can someone tell me what it is?
[22:36] <Squarc> blue_e: did you try formatting the partition using a commandline?
[22:37] <Appocc> ola
[22:37] <Squarc> ola :)
[22:37] <Appocc> coudl anybody help me??
[22:37] <Squarc> I guess
[22:37] <blue_e> Hold on one second, I think I may have figured out how to do it
[22:37] <Squarc> blue_e: great :)
[22:37] <ghindo> Appocc: What do you need help with?
[22:37] <agroker> !ask | Appocc
[22:37] <Appocc> i got a wireless network that can connect but cant navigate.. sometimes it works.. but it is aleatory... and one thig more.. my connections (even eth0) cant resolve dhcp
[22:37] <sadaiyappan> have a firefox problem
[22:38] <entrooo> How do I view what linux kernel I have?
[22:38] <blue_e> There we go, thanks for the help
[22:38] <t1ger> entroo0: uname -a
[22:38] <sadaiyappan> the window is too big for me to reach the resize panel..
[22:38] <ghindo> entrooo: Open up the terminal and type "uname -r"
[22:38] <entrooo> thanks a lot! :D
[22:38] <sadaiyappan> how do i resize it without logging out of my account?
[22:38] <ghindo> entrooo: Or, if you're using GNOME, open up the System Monitor
[22:38] <Squarc> blue_e: good :)
[22:39] <zhurai-tsuki> huh, someone said uname -a and another person said uname -r   >.>'
[22:39] <sadaiyappan> it opens up full size everytime i open and close it too
[22:39] <tapas> what's the kernel options for getting the splash screen again?
[22:39] <tapas> i turned it off sometime back
[22:39] <axisys> !hibernate
[22:39] <fobo7> hi all
[22:39] <tapas> don't have X11 atm :(
[22:39] <SpuddlyMcMartin> I have a broken link on my desktop, how do i delete it? right clicking and selecting delete is not an option
[22:39] <Squarc> How to dissable all the loggon loggout messages for this channel (pidgin)
[22:39] <t1ger> zhrai: Newermind my reply
[22:39] <fobo7> whi i can't mount wolume
[22:39] <dopiwan> Anyone know of any open source disk cloning utilities similar to Acronis or Norton Ghost?
[22:39] <tapas> Squarc: depends on your client
[22:39] <axisys> SpuddlyMcMartin: can u have a terminal?
[22:39] <Squarc> fobo7: what do you get?
[22:39] <Squarc> tapas: pidgin...
[22:40] <Dreamglider> dopiwan: dd, clonezilla
[22:40] <dopiwan> Dreamglider: ty
[22:40] <axisys> SpuddlyMcMartin: or ssh to the host ?
[22:40] <zhurai-tsuki> SpuddlyMcMartin,: ... terminal -> sudo chmod 777 FILE -> rm FILE ?
[22:40] <rawr_> is there a way to set a gnome-terminal title from the command line
[22:40] <tapas> Squarc: dunno then, maybe ask in #pidgin?
[22:40] <Dreamglider> dopiwan: np, pgarted liveCD also
[22:40] <_VIM_> SpuddlyMcMartin: as far as the freeciv question, google is failing me, you could just try logging out and logging back in to see if you have the freeciv menu in Applications > Games
[22:40] <zamba> i want to use a shell command to output yesterday's date.. how can i do that?
[22:41] <zaccour> i just installed the base ubuntu onto my other system, is there a guide that tells how to apt-get my way into a full system desktop and all?
[22:41] <rwb> bob
[22:41] <zhurai-tsuki> zaccour: exporting your packages in your main one?
[22:41] <SpuddlyMcMartin> _VIM_: No biggie, thanks for all the help! I tried reinstalling but it said everything was already install successfully!'
[22:41] <hatter243> zaccour, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[22:41] <zaccour> hatter243, is that the first thing i need to do?
[22:42] <Squarc> zaccour: or when you prefer KDE; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:42] <zaccour> i prefer gnome
[22:42] <hatter243> zaccour, that'll install everything required for the standard gnome ubuntu desktop
[22:42] <_VIM_> SpuddlyMcMartin: yeah 'reinstalling' is kind of a windows concept, doesn't really work in Linux from what i've heard :)
[22:42] <axisys>     zaccour sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:42] <zaccour> thanks
[22:42] <XPS_M1330> can I reset the cdrom config to default somehow?
[22:42] <zaccour> its the install disc for the ps3, for some reason its only the base
[22:42] <SpuddlyMcMartin> _VIM_: My mistake.. I am such a novice hehe
[22:43] <zamba> i need to get yesterday's date using a shell command
[22:43] <elli222> time
[22:43] <elli222> than take one off...
[22:43] <zaccour> thanks. it says 22 minutes for it to happen
[22:44] <sadaiyappan> Hi
[22:44] <zaccour> hopefully everything runs great on the ps3
[22:44] <sadaiyappan> how do i resize my firefox browser window, if it is full screen and i can't reach the resize panel?
[22:44] <bmorris> What's the best way to monitor things like proc/memory usage, memory activity etc?
[22:44] <zaccour> sadaiyappan, click view and you will see a full screen check box
[22:44] <hatter243> sadaiyappan, if you hold alt+click you can drag any window
[22:45] <mylisto> hey _vim_: found something that might work
[22:45] <dude7064> any PIC programmers here ? (PIC the microcontroller I mean )
[22:45] <mylisto> finally getting recordmydesktop to record
[22:45] <dude7064>  or can anybody tell me where I can find PIC programmers ?
[22:45] <mylisto> just gotta tweak the sound settings?
[22:45] <zaccour> bmorris, disc usage analyser in accessories will show you how much space you have used and how much is left
[22:45] <oCean_> zamba: date --date="yesterday"
[22:45] <zaccour> analyzer*
[22:46] <_VIM_> mylisto: its working sound and everything?
[22:46] <zaccour> bmorris, sorry cant type right now lol
[22:46] <oCean_> zamba: or, as helpful date --date="1 days ago"
[22:46] <sadaiyappan> ok, alt+click worked thx
[22:46] <mylisto> sound is working
[22:46] <Squarc> dude7064: yeah me
[22:46] <zaccour> i tried the puppy live cd and it said it configured my sound in alsa, but still didnt hear anything
[22:46] <_VIM_> mylisto: cool, that's the hardest thing to get working
[22:46] <bmorris> zaccour: I'm looking more for ram memory
[22:46] <mylisto> _vim_: go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=997506
[22:46] <zamba> oCean_: oh! thanks :)
[22:46] <_VIM_> ok
[22:47] <_VIM_> ty mylisto
[22:47] <mylisto> finally perfect sound!
[22:47] <pvtpete> hey - i'm having problems seeing other computers in the file explorer
[22:47] <mylisto> arh
[22:47] <pvtpete> the network guys over at #networking said it was an ubuntu issue
[22:47] <mylisto> dammit...not perfect...but will get there
[22:48] <genii> pvtpete: Make sure your broadcast address is right
[22:48] <pvtpete> broadcast address - how can I define that ?
[22:48] <pvtpete> thanks
[22:48] <genii> pvtpete: Usually the dhcp server will set it. if mask is 255.255.255.0 then broadcast is x.x.x.255
[22:49] <pvtpete> hmm ok
[22:49] <mylisto> _vim_: this is for other versions of ubuntu
[22:49] <mylisto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012
[22:49] <pvtpete> how do I know if they've been properly assigned ?
[22:49] <_VIM_> mylisto: ok
[22:49] <_VIM_> :D
[22:50] <XPS_M1330> is there a manual browser for xwindow?
[22:50] <genii> pvtpete: ifconfig will show a line like: inet addr:192.168.0.191  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[22:50] <pvtpete> both broadcast numbers are identical
[22:51] <pvtpete> (192.168.1.255
[22:51] <pvtpete> on both machines
[22:51] <baz__> whats the default way to access windows RDP again
[22:51] <agroker> XPS_M1330, xman?
[22:51] <genii> pvtpete: Ok. Make sure you have package smbfs installed.
[22:52] <pvtpete> smbf? as in the smb  file transfer protocol ?
[22:52] <oCean_> baz__: "rdesktop" or "tsclient"
[22:53] <pvtpete> where can I find it and how can I check ?
[22:53] <abyss_> anyone can help me reset my msql password on my local machine?
[22:53] <genii> pvtpete: Yes, unless you are using some other method
[22:53] <UnderTaker> what kernel does interpid use?
[22:53] <oCean_> abyss_: passwd for root user?
[22:53] <baz__> oCean_, ahh yes, tsclient - thank you
[22:53] <UnderTaker> kernel version rather
[22:53] <XPS_M1330> agroker: yes, that's kind of what I was looking for. I can't do "xman modprobe" though...
[22:53] <abyss_> oCean_, yes
[22:54] <abyss_> oCean_, passwd for mysql root user
[22:54] <oCean_> abyss_: is mysql server running? It should be stopped, then you can start (manually) mysqld in safe mode
[22:55] <abyss_> oCean_, can u send me a private message how i do that ?
[22:55] <UnderTaker> why does ubuntu increase screen brightness when idle?
[22:55] <agroker> XPS_M1330, yes, I do not see a way to call that from CLI, still you can navigate xman > manual pages > 8 > modprobe, but yes awkward
[22:56] <XPS_M1330> thank you
[22:56] <zaccour> does everything work the same with the ps3 like a regular computer?
[22:56] <mugedom> hi
[22:56] <petr> nekdo Cz/sk?
[22:57] <kitche> zaccour: not exactly but yes if you get use to powerpc
[22:57] <ffb> i have a wireless adapter  that will not work on my ubuntu computer
[22:58] <ZenMasta> I'm cloning a disk and I was wondering if there is a way to see the "status"
[22:58] <zaccour> kitche, how is ppc different? i heard flash dont work, anything else?
[22:58] <natsukashi> I have a problem when using this tutorial ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035999 ) , when I type "grub> setup (hd0)" it gives me a message saying Error 17 Can't mount selected partition
[22:58] <kitche> zaccour: some other programs but flash is the big one
[22:59] <agroker> XPS if you use konqueror you can type man:whtever in the command line
[23:00] <petr> hallo men, i need little help, my main toolbar - where i could find cross for quit the windows, or button to maximalize/minimalize windows disappeared... can somebody help me? thx and sry 4 my lame-question O:-)
[23:00] <UnderTaker> is JFS a better Filesystem?
[23:00] <zaccour> kitche, will i be able to take full advantage of the cell processor?
[23:01] <dude7064> anybody here has experience working with SIM300 ? (WILL PAY if somebody is interested in helping me out)
[23:01] <agroker> XPS_M1330, if you use konqueror try to type man:gcc in the location window
[23:02] <zaccour> dude7064, whats SIM300?
[23:02] <petr> i really tried to find the solution, but its up to my powers, i really need help, my problem is disgusted :-/ :(
[23:02] <kitche> zaccour: no since linux distros aren't compiled for cell optimization unless you use ibm distro or one of the hardware vendors distros
[23:02] <ffb> Can you HELP with this problem    my computer will not pick up a Wireless signal from the adapter i attached
[23:02] <UnderTaker> Whats better System76 laptops or dell laptops?
[23:02] <jimi_hendrix> what command would search everywhere for .mpeg or .mpg files
[23:03] <natsukashi> Anyone that can help me reinstall grub? I get an error from the tutorial i tried. :/
[23:03] <zaccour> ibm makes os distros?
[23:03] <UnderTaker> jimi_hendrix, locate *.mpg
[23:03] <ffb> system 76
[23:03] <agroker> natsukashi, I used Supergrubdisk with occasional success
[23:03] <Droopsta915> Im running Ubuntu on a 40GB drive, I want to up grade to a 320GB and reinstall. Does it matter what kind of hard drive I pick, or are they all universal?
[23:03] <zaccour> kitche, ibm makes os distros?
[23:03] <UnderTaker> Droopsta915, there is sata and pata drives
[23:03] <binarymutant> is there a pidgin packaging team?
[23:04] <micah> hay im new to ubuntu and how do i open a rar file??
[23:04] <natsukashi> agroker: thank, I'll try it. Will it work even though I'm on the Live CD?
[23:04] <kitche> zaccour: well they compile one for their cell processors since some of their servers come with the cell think it's red hat or something specialized
[23:04] <agroker> natsukashi, it is a livecd in itself
[23:04] <_VIM_> !rar | micah
[23:04] <[-jon-]> what is the most current version of ubuntu? 8.1?
[23:04] <joshua24> install unrar
[23:05] <werdnativ> I have some paths doubling up in my PATH variable... where could it be coming from? I checked ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc and /etc/environment
[23:05] <natsukashi> agroker: I noticed, thank. I thought it was a program. :)
[23:05] <LordMetroid> What is pdflush?
[23:05] <XPS_M1330> what's the modprobe command to get info about the cdrom?
[23:05] <crdlb> [-jon-]: it's 8.10, but yes
[23:05] <[-jon-]> kk thanks
[23:06] <werdnativ> specifically, I added an item to the front of PATH in /etc/environment but when I log in there are other things showing up in front of it taking precedence.
[23:06] <ikonia> XPS_M1330: modprobe isn't anything to do with cdrom
[23:06] <UnderTaker> LordMetroid, pdflush is dirty filesystem buffers waiting to be flushed to the harddisk
[23:06] <XPS_M1330> ikonia: if I want to post a message on the forum, what's the information I need to supply?
[23:06] <ikonia> XPS_M1330: anything relevant to your question
[23:07] <LordMetroid> Hmm, it never gets flushed :(
[23:07] <Daemon_Byte> hi all. I think I have my rsync set up but I want to test it. When I use the flag --dry-run it seems to run, doesn't sync any files but gives me no report. any ideas?
[23:07] <UnderTaker> LordMetroid, if you are using ext3 it should flush every 5 seconds
[23:07] <natsukashi> So, how do I format an USB drive? something with fdisk or ... ?
[23:08] <ikonia> natsukashi: exactly the same as a normal hard disk
[23:08] <agroker> XPS_M1330, sudo lshw
[23:08] <nate[oz]> can anyone help me with a dns issue? I can resolve an IP address when I use "host test-computer.test.local" but when I try to ping the same address it DOESN'T work "ping test-computer.test.local'
[23:08] <UnderTaker> LordMetroid, read this http://ymei.freeshell.org/gopher/Book/Linux.Kernel.Development.2ed/ch15lev1sec4.html
[23:08] <ikonia> natsukashi: host doesn't not use libresolve
[23:09] <natsukashi> ikonia: I've never formatted a normal Hard rdive in Ubuntu. :/
[23:09] <ikonia> natsukashi: ping does not mean it can't resolve
[23:09] <ikonia> natsukashi: use gparted
[23:09] <kitche> nate[oz]: host does not use libresolve
[23:09] <ikonia> nate[oz]: ping failing does not mean a DNS issue, and host does not use librsolve
[23:09] <xavierg2003> Hello
[23:09] <keepsake> natsukashi: And if Gparted doesn't do it, use qtparted.
[23:10]  * dr_willis waits for  a WinParted
[23:10] <xavierg2003> Does anyone have any suggestions for programs to install to make kubuntu run more efficiently?
[23:10] <ikonia> xavierg2003: in what way ?
[23:10] <dr_willis> xavierg2003,  totally depends on what you do with the computer.
[23:10] <mark[oz]> xavierg2003: gnome :)
[23:10] <xavierg2003> Games
[23:10] <abyss_> oCean_, thank your for your detail help!
[23:10] <agroker> xavierg2003, sudo apt-get purge kde*
[23:10] <ikonia> xavierg2003: run them on their native OS
[23:10] <ikonia> xavierg2003: that's a pretty solid start
[23:11] <oCean_> abyss_: sure, you're welcome.
[23:11] <dr_willis> xavierg2003,  use the most minimal window manager you can - to allow more cpu/mem/stuff for your games.
[23:11] <nate[oz]> ikonia, kitche: when I ping the IP address it returns, it works, it's only the hostname it's not working for
[23:11] <ikonia> nate[oz]: what happens if you use nslookup - which does use libresolve
[23:11] <nate[oz]> one sec
[23:11] <xavierg2003> what is purge ?
[23:11] <dr_willis> purge = to remove competely
[23:11] <dr_willis> completly.
[23:11] <agroker> xavierg2003, remove with dependencies
[23:11] <Fade1> Can anyone here answer this question.. is there a way to packet overload something usering ubuntu?
[23:11] <Barridus> xavierg2003, sudo apt-get preload
[23:12] <nate[oz]> seems to work fine ikonia
[23:12] <ikonia> Fade1: ask a real question
[23:12] <Droopsta915> I used lshw to try and figure out what kind of hard drive I have, what is the description for the hard drive?
[23:12] <Barridus> xavierg2003, sudo apt-get install preload  (correction)
[23:12] <agroker> xavierg2003, kde is slower than more lightweight wms like icewm, fluxbox etc
[23:12] <dr_willis> Fade1,  there are a # of network testing and packet-manipulation tools out for linux.
[23:12] <cmoss1> question: i have a dell desktop computer that is running ubuntu server, but I have it hooked up to a monitor...after a little while, it will blank the screen, but will keep the led light on the back of the monitor on.  I have tried setterm, and it doesn't seem to do anything to stop sending a signal (even if it is just a blank screen)
[23:12] <xavierg2003> by kde you mean the internet browser?
[23:13] <agroker> xavierg2003, no, those fancy but slow widgets you observe every time you login into your kubuntu box
[23:13] <dr_willis> cmoss1,  you mwan to say its blanking, but not powering off the monitor.
[23:13] <nate[oz]> so nslookup & host works, but ping does not
[23:13] <nate[oz]> weird stuff
[23:13] <ikonia> nate[oz]: not really
[23:13] <cmoss1> dr_willis: yes, that's correct
[23:13] <ikonia> nate[oz]: look at /etc/nsswitch.conf
[23:13] <l337ingDisorder> can anyone help me with mounting? I need to be able to mount and unmount network shares in a script. I've added the shares to my fstab so they look like this: http://nopaste.com/p/aLGyXJ0We  and I'm trying to mount them in the script with this line:   mount /mnt/backup/dump       but it's telling me "Mount error 20: Not a directory"
[23:13] <xavierg2003> so first purge then preload then....?
[23:14] <l337ingDisorder> they're samba shares
[23:14] <agroker> xavierg2003, that was a bad joke, do not purge anything
[23:14] <dr_willis> cmoss1,  i just turn the monitors off. on my servers.. since they go for weeks at a time befor i need to see the display
[23:14] <xavierg2003> i thought so thats why i didn't type it in
[23:14] <dr_willis> l337ingDisorder,  the mouintpoint directory MUST exist beforhand.
[23:14] <xavierg2003> just preload?
[23:14] <zaccour> kitche, how do i im on irc?
[23:14] <l337ingDisorder> dr_willis: the mountpoint directories all exist
[23:15] <cmoss1> dr_willis: yeah, my problem is that I have my mac hooked up to the DVI port on the same monitor, and when it goes to sleep, it switches back over to the analog signal because it is showing that blank screen
[23:15] <nate[oz]> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132749/
[23:15] <dr_willis> l337ingDisorder,  try thgem from the command line first then..  easier to trouble shoot that way
[23:15]  * Patric3 
[23:15]  * Patric3 
[23:15] <Barridus> xavierg2003, purge was not a joke.  it helps quite a bit.
[23:15] <FloodBot2> Patric3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:15] <zaccour> how do i im here?
[23:15] <xavierg2003> ...
[23:15] <cmoss1> zaccour: do you mean private message?
[23:15] <agroker> xavierg2003, yes, but only if you install something else in exchange, try LXDE you should feel faster
[23:15] <Patric3> FloodBot2: Excuse me!?
[23:15] <kitche> zaccour: oh /msg <person>
[23:16] <zaccour> cmoss1, yes
[23:16] <Patric3> Damm bots
[23:16] <ikonia> nate[oz]: that all looks fine
[23:16] <l337ingDisorder> dr_willis: that's the weird thing.. it works from the command line when I just use:    mount -o username=Administrator,password=secret //server1/share/dump /mnt/backup/dump
[23:16] <xavierg2003> lxde? i am very new with the command prompt.
[23:16] <mylisto> wondering...what does this mean?
[23:16] <mylisto> cannot load the jack library (dlopen/dlsym error on libjack.so)
[23:16] <xavierg2003> i am ony about a week into kubuntu
[23:16] <[KVM]1> I'm just wondering if someone can tell me why in a couple of fresh Ubuntu Jaunty install I've got very cool detachable toolbars in Anjuta, and in another "updated" version it doesn't. Why??
[23:16] <agroker> xavierg2003, yet another wm
[23:16] <l337ingDisorder> but if I use     mount /mnt/backup/dump     (like I should be able to) it doesn't seem to reference the fstab entry
[23:16] <xavierg2003> and i already crashed it once
[23:17] <dr_willis> l337ingDisorder,  odd..  You are mouinting them  with sudo mouint /mnt/backup/dump ?
[23:17] <xavierg2003> lxde is a wms but would i just use apt-get install lxde
[23:17] <agroker> !desktop | xavierg2003
[23:17] <Droopsta915> ok so it says ide0, driver=sata_sil and ide1, driver=pata_atiixp. So is one drive SATA AND one is PATA?
[23:17] <dr_willis> l337ingDisorder,  as a work around - you could put the commands in rc.local i guess. :)  but i would imagine thers some typo/quirk we are overlooking
[23:17] <mylisto> hey _vim_: you get any of that audio stuff to work?
[23:17] <l337ingDisorder> dr_willis: logged in as root... # mount /mnt/backup/dump
[23:18] <xavierg2003> ahh.... i see. so kubuntu is a wms as is lxde and puppy etc etc etc?
[23:18] <elli222> why is shell scripting so addictive?
[23:18] <dr_willis> xavierg2003,  you are getting things confused.
[23:18] <xavierg2003> kinda like an O.s?
[23:18] <agroker> !distro | xavierg2003
[23:18] <l337ingDisorder> dr_willis: well since it's in my fstab do I need to do anything to have it re-read the fstab? reboot the machine maybe? (hoping to avoid that)
[23:18] <dr_willis> xavierg2003,  linux is the  core of the os.  Puppy linuix is a linux disrobutiion
[23:18] <dr_willis> l337ingDisorder,  sudo mount -a
[23:18] <_VIM_> mylisto: naa not yet, havent had time, but i got those links logged for later :)
[23:19] <zamba> i want to use backticks in a cronjob.. how do i have to escape them?
[23:19] <freeatlast> When I open a spreadsheet in Open Office it expands to whole screen - tried several different views etc. but can not make smaller so I can open other apps - Any ideas how to fcix ? ?
[23:19] <freeatlast> *fix
[23:19] <mylisto> good...
[23:19] <xavierg2003> hmm....
[23:19] <zamba> /full/path/to/binary argument1 argument2 -d `date --date="yesterday" +"%Y-%m-%d"`
[23:19] <zamba> that's the command
[23:19] <zamba> how do i use that in a cronjob?
[23:20] <xavierg2003> i am trying to learn but comprehension is comming slowly,
[23:20] <Newbuntu> hi guys =D
[23:20] <dr_willis> zamba,  use $(stuff) instead of backticks
[23:20] <mylisto> can anyone help me...got this error...when trying to use jack capture ports in record my desktop
[23:20] <mylisto> cannot load the jack library (dlopen/dlsym error on libjack.so)
[23:20] <dr_willis> zamba,  is the easier to read way
[23:20] <xavierg2003> i can't even put a simple command line together unless i use a preexisting one
[23:20] <l337ingDisorder> dr_willis: ok well that doesn't seem to have fixed it
[23:20] <nate[oz]> ikonia: had a look at a mates nsswitch.conf and line 11 was different, I changed it to "hosts: files dns"... and it worked! :)
[23:20] <volfied2> How can I learn my Internet IP address from the commandline, if I'm connected through a router
[23:20] <zamba> dr_willis: $(date --date="yesterday" +"%Y-%m-%d")?
[23:20] <elli222> volfield2, ifconfig
[23:21] <dr_willis> zamba,  yes. :)
[23:21] <volfied2> ifconfig gives me my local IP address, I need my internet IP
[23:21] <zamba> dr_willis: thanks :)
[23:21] <dr_willis>  echo $(date --date="yesterday" +"%Y-%m-%d")
[23:21] <l337ingDisorder> dr_willis: I do notice it's saying "Refer to the mount.cifs man page" but this is smbfs not cifs... (it's defined as smbfs in the fstab)
[23:21] <Newbuntu> ok so im newto ubuntu and any sort of linux operting systems can you guys recommend any places i can go to read up on everything nd learn how to really take full advantage of this programme?
[23:21] <YesMan1> hi guys
[23:21] <Ax3> Newbuntu, man <command>
[23:21] <dr_willis> zamba,  down with backticks. :) they just are hard to see/and cause other issues on some things.
[23:21] <zamba> dr_willis: agreed
[23:21] <Ax3> Newbuntu, all the docs you need are already bundled on your computer
[23:21] <Newbuntu> Ax3 i assum you mean in ther terminal?
[23:21] <dr_willis> l337ingDisorder,  cifs can be used instead of smbfs I belive.. and i belive cifs is reccomdnedd
[23:21] <elli222> volfield, dunno wether thats possible
[23:21] <Ax3> Newbuntu, yup
[23:21] <Newbuntu> ohok
[23:21] <freeatlast> Can't open any other apps with a spreadsheet open in Open Office - Anyone have idea how to resolve ? ?
[23:21] <xavierg2003> thanks for the help but must go see you later
[23:22] <zamba> cifs is recommended, yeah
[23:22] <Newbuntu> where do i find the bundles?
[23:22] <agroker> xavierg2003, then start reading here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IceWM
[23:22] <zamba> it can do so much more than smbfs can
[23:22] <YesMan1> I can't empty the Trash, i got a message says Permission denied. What to do please?
[23:22] <volfied2> anyone else?
[23:22] <bigrigger> voidmage: this url will tell you, https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[23:22] <nate[oz]> ikonia: cheers for pointing me in the right direction, much appreciated
[23:22] <dr_willis> l337ingDisorder,  mount.cifs  '//Jukebox/Disk 1'  /media/Jukebox/Disk1/  -o guest,workgroup=mshome
[23:22] <freeatlast> Takes over the whole screen.
[23:22] <Ax3> Newbuntu, the ubuntuforums.org and http://help.ubuntu.com is also good too.
[23:22] <elli222> YesMan1, sudo rm -rf /home/.trash
[23:22] <Newbuntu> ok thanksguys
[23:22] <dr_willis> I never have figured ouit how to 'quote/escape' spaces in samba share names in fstab.
[23:22] <bigrigger> volfied2: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2  to find WAN ip.
[23:22] <DIFH-iceroot> elli222: there is no .trah in home
[23:23] <bigrigger> voidmage: disregard last msg.
[23:23] <DIFH-iceroot> elli222: you mean ~/.trash
[23:23] <elli222> YesMan stop
[23:23] <YesMan1> elli222: i can't find the .trash folder in my home folder. I can see all the rest hidden files except the trash folder
[23:23] <volfied2> I need to do that from my commandline, I'm trying to setup so my computer can send me an email of my home IP ddress
[23:24] <l337ingDisorder> maybe it's a permissions problem...
[23:25] <jophish> Is there any way in which I can find a list of all the packages I have installed recently?
[23:25] <DIFH-iceroot> YesMan1: ~/.local/share/Trash
[23:25] <Brent___> I'm trying to install ubuntu but while the install cd boots up it keeps getting a white screen. I assume that its my video card. is there a way to install it with the terminal and without the graphical interface? After I install it I can get the driver. Anyone know?
[23:25] <bigrigger> volfied2: are you using the ip in question now? it's 81.104.47.83
[23:25] <DIFH-iceroot> Brent___: try the alternate cd
[23:25] <Brent___> where is that?
[23:25] <dr_willis> brent_,  what is your video card anyway?
[23:26] <dr_willis> Brent___,   what is your video card anyway?
[23:26] <DIFH-iceroot> !download | Brent___
[23:26] <Brent___> radeon 4870 X2
[23:26] <dr_willis> talk about annoying nicks. :)
[23:26] <oCean_> volfied2: "lynx" is a text based browser. You could use lynx to connect to "whatismyip.com"
[23:26] <YesMan1> DIFH-iceroot: thnx man
[23:26] <Brent___> ok cool i'll try
[23:27] <oCean_> jophish: not through actual command - not in a way that you can see when you installed it. But you could have a look at /var/cache/apt/archives directory. Installed packages are downloaded there.
[23:27] <Brent___> fastest video card on the planet :)
[23:27] <Appocc> i cant make my dhcp client work... my connections cant reslve any ip.. i need to point everything.. can anybody helpme???
[23:27] <volfied2> ok I'll just reword: I will use one of my servers connected to my home network to learn my internet IP, and send me an email automatically every half an hour or so, it is linux, and I need a terminal command to learn the internet IP from the computer
[23:28] <jophish> ok, thanks oCean
[23:28] <IntuitiveNipple> jophish: Yes, if you used synaptic/update manager. Logs are kept for the root user: sudo ls -l /root/.synaptic/log/
[23:29] <LordMetroid> My number of pdflush process is constantly increase, I am now up to 6+ and they don't terminate
[23:29] <axisys> so hibernate is suspend-to-disk and suspend is suspend-to-ram as long as there is some battery.. did I miss anything? it works perfect tho in my laptop ..
[23:29] <bigrigger> volfied2: I don't know of a terminal command for that.
[23:30] <Appocc> i cant make my dhcp client work... my connections cant reslve any ip.. i need to point everything.. can anybody helpme???
[23:31] <mylisto> argh
[23:31] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: You mean, you want to get the public IP issued to the router by your ISP from within the LAN?
[23:31] <LordMetroid> Firefox must be doing something evil
[23:31] <volfied2> yes
[23:31] <bigrigger> IntuitiveNipple: that's what he wants. ys
[23:31] <volfied2> IntuitiveNipple: yes
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> LordMetroid: firefox eats ram = evil
[23:32] <volfied2> IntuitiveNipple: but using command line, I will automate this and send myself an email with the data
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> does anyone use LXDE?
[23:32] <stefanos86> hello guys, i have a problem with compiz, when is enabled the new windows I open are not opening on top (active), can i do something for this?
[23:32] <DIFH-iceroot> LordMetroid: and pdflush has what to do with firefox?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> is there a way to map the super key to pop open the lxde menu?
[23:33] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: give me a mo, just checking it works as I think
[23:33] <volfied2> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[23:33] <LordMetroid> DIFH-iceroot, I killed firefox and the laptop instantaneously stopped chewing on my hard drive
[23:33] <IAmWill> my media keys on my laptop stopped working, and sound is now coming out of both speakers and headphones as if they were one... (when i plug the headphones in, they dont shut the speakers off) .......  can anyone else assist
[23:34] <bigrigger> Appocc: is dhclient running? tried sudo dhclient eth0 or your i-net interface?
[23:34] <LordMetroid> DIFH-iceroot, Also 4 of the 6 pdflush processes was terminated
[23:34] <DIFH-iceroot> LordMetroid: hm ok
[23:34] <YesMan1> when Ubuntu 9.04 is going to be released?
[23:35] <fosco__> april
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> YesMan1: april 23rd (ish)
[23:35] <IntuitiveNipple> YesMan1: April 23rd
[23:35] <stefanos86> nobody?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> YesMan1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
[23:36] <gartral> i need a generic configuration program for a webcamera
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> stefanos86: ask in n#compiz
[23:36] <stefanos86> okie
[23:38] <volfied2> IntuitiveNipple: any updates?
[23:38] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: testing :)
[23:39] <gartral> the camera in question reports as a  Microdia Clas Ohlson TWC-30XOP WebCam by lsusb (note copy/paste from term, spelling is correct (to lsusb :) )
[23:41] <sinsignificant> good evening people, i have a joystick question if somebody is willing to help
[23:42] <sinsignificant> all of a sudden, my joystick maps to /dev/input/js1 - instead of /dev/input/js0
[23:42] <jetscreamer> blame hotplug
[23:42] <jetscreamer> you can tell it to be js0 but i forget how
[23:42] <YesMan1> !Fluxbox
[23:43] <sinsignificant> yes, i figured, but how
[23:43] <mylisto> can anyone help
[23:43] <YesMan1> why people that have old laptops use Ubuntu server versions?
[23:43] <mylisto> I'm trying to get recordmydesktop to record audio with jack
[23:43] <mylisto> when I try to record I get this "cannot load the jack library (dlopen/dlsym error on libjack.so)"
[23:44] <jetscreamer> udev rules
[23:44] <jetscreamer> !udev rules
[23:44] <jetscreamer> s/hotplug/udev/
[23:44] <aboleth> hello
[23:44] <jetscreamer> duh
[23:44] <jetscreamer> try there
[23:44] <aboleth> i have a problem with pulse audio
[23:44] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[23:44] <aboleth> i looked at that
[23:45] <aboleth> everything seemed to have worked correctly, but i still get so sound
[23:45] <nOStahl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYLxIoaYPfM
[23:45] <jetscreamer> sinsignificant: you catch that?
[23:45] <sinsignificant> thankyou - thats just the springboard i needed
[23:45] <aboleth> under appendix a i get result c
[23:45] <sinsignificant> si senor
[23:45] <jetscreamer> k
[23:45] <sinsignificant> much obliged
[23:45] <jetscreamer> np
[23:45] <sinsignificant> adios
[23:45] <aboleth> does anyone know what could be going on?
[23:45] <aboleth> i didn't have this problem in hardy
[23:46] <aboleth> however, tremulous does get sound
[23:46] <aboleth> with no problmes
[23:46] <aboleth> *problems
[23:46] <Bawlss> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[23:47] <aboleth> does anyone know anything about pulseaudio?
[23:47] <dr_willis> !pulse | aboleth
[23:47] <Barridus> umm, i'm not sure how to ask this, but if i want to try xfce, how do i change the login window to be xfce?  it did not prompt for a login window preference like it does if you install kde
[23:47] <[-jon-]> I can boot to a fedora dvd but not to an ubuntu cd
[23:48] <dr_willis> Barridus,  i thought the xfce desktop used GDM as its 'Login screen'
[23:48] <[-jon-]> any idea why? o_O
[23:48] <dr_willis> Barridus,   there may be a xfce theme installed now for gdm however.
[23:48] <aboleth> dr_willis: i already saw taht
[23:48] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] try acpi=off
[23:48] <dr_willis> aboleth,  then ask a more specific question?
[23:48] <[-jon-]> _Linuxx_: how?
[23:48] <aboleth> i did
[23:48] <aboleth> earlier
[23:48] <[-jon-]> it wont even reconize the disk as bootable
[23:48] <dr_willis> aboleth,  when in doubt check the forums  also.
[23:48] <[-jon-]> unless the drive is faulty -- fedora was on a dvd
[23:49] <stefan_can> !passwd
[23:49] <aboleth> thats why i'm here
[23:49] <jetscreamer> Barridus: you go into the sessions option at the gdm login
[23:49] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] you burned it as an ISO?
[23:49] <aboleth> i was reading a forum thread
[23:49] <[-jon-]> yes
[23:49] <Barridus> dr_willis,  are you certain?  i mean it would explain the lack of prompt asking
[23:49] <aboleth> i followed everything
[23:49] <aboleth> everything seemed to work
[23:49] <jetscreamer> before you log in
[23:49] <gartral> [-jon-]: at the boot prompt, press F6 twice
[23:49] <aboleth> but i still have no sound
[23:49] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] i dont know, i would check the md5 of your download
[23:49] <aboleth> except in tremulous
[23:49] <dr_willis> Barridus,  there is no xfceDM that ive ever seen.
[23:49] <aboleth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[23:49] <aboleth> that thread
[23:49] <FloodBot2> aboleth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:49] <[-jon-]> _Linuxx_: it has happened to both the packaged ubuntu disk I received
[23:49] <Barridus> jetscreamer, no that's to choose the desktop environment you are logging into :p  not the login window
[23:49] <[-jon-]> and the downloaded and burned one
[23:50] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] will the CD read in windows?
[23:50] <[-jon-]> Im not sure
[23:50] <[-jon-]> I dont have a windows machine with a cd drive
[23:50] <gartral> [-jon-]: at the boot prompt, tap F6 twice, and hit enter once you selected acpi=off
[23:50] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] are you in fedora now?
[23:50] <Stinger> hi
[23:50] <[-jon-]> _Linuxx_: no
[23:50] <aboleth> everything appears to be working correctly still
[23:50] <jetscreamer> Barridus: what do you think you're trying to do ?? :)
[23:50] <aboleth> except the sound itself
[23:50] <jetscreamer> that is what you're trying to do
[23:51] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] what os are you are you on now?
[23:51] <Barridus> jetscreamer, ask a question about the login window itself?  like i asked?
[23:51] <jetscreamer> i thought you wanted to go to xfce
[23:51] <jetscreamer> silly me
[23:51] <aboleth> do you want the results of aplay -l and such?
[23:51] <gartral> !rip
[23:51] <Barridus> jetscreamer, yes i do, but i'm aware how.  that's why i didn't ask how to do that, thanks
[23:52] <gartral> sound juicer isn't support though...
[23:52] <jetscreamer> Barridus: try what i said (after you install xfce) there's even an option to make it default
[23:52] <aboleth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132763/
[23:52] <aboleth> that is aplay -l
[23:52] <jetscreamer> what did you ask then?
[23:52] <jetscreamer> i read your question twice
[23:52] <aboleth> now for pkill pulseaudio; sleep 2; pulseaudio -vv
[23:52] <Cahan> in GRUB (hd0,1) = hard drive 1, partition 2?
[23:53] <wolter> Cahan, i guess hd0,2
[23:53] <jetscreamer> you can use any ?dm to log in to anything (mostly)
[23:53] <[-jon-]> gartral: I cant get that to work right
[23:53] <[-jon-]> the cd will not boot at all
[23:53] <wolter> Cahan, but isn't partition one hd0,0 ?
[23:53] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] what os are you are you on now?
[23:53] <jetscreamer> xdm kdm gdm wdm... there's one or two more afaicr
[23:53] <[-jon-]> vista
[23:53] <wolter> i think it is.. in that case, partition 2 would be hd0,1
[23:53] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] no cdrom?
[23:54] <[-jon-]> not hooked up
[23:54] <Kumba_> Does apt return a 1 if the process ran successfully?
[23:54]  * jetscreamer bails
[23:54] <Barridus> jetscreamer, don't worry, dr_willis answered it
[23:54] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] any machine with an OS that has a cdrom?
[23:54] <[-jon-]> it has fedora installed on it
[23:54] <[-jon-]> i guess i could boot into it
[23:54] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] check to see if it reads your cd
[23:54] <[-jon-]> brb
[23:54]  * nel is back.
[23:55] <Iceman_B|ssh> wb neru
[23:55] <ExAstris> hello all.
[23:55] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: Still awake? :D
[23:56] <volfied2> IntuitiveNipple: yeah
[23:56] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: wget -U "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009030516 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.7" http://whatismyipaddress.com/ -O - 2>/dev/null | sed -n 's,.*Your IP address is \([\.0-9]*\).*,\1,p'
[23:57] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: You might want to use a different user-agent string.
[23:57] <aboleth> hmm the command is taking a long time to run
[23:57] <Arkenklo> I fucking _LOVE_ thai sweet chili
[23:57] <aboleth> it seems to be repeating itself too
[23:57] <eseven_> !ohmy | Arkenklo
[23:57] <gartral> Arkenklo: 1) this is support channel, 2) this is a PG channel
[23:57] <[-jon-]> im sorry for this stupid question, but im not familiar with using cds in linux, does it just mount it to the desktop (fedora)?
[23:58] <stduseren> any one knows how to install xchat on ubuntu?
[23:58] <cdenny> when messing with compiz-fusion, the audio from rhythm music player gets choppy
[23:58] <IntuitiveNipple> stduseren: sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:58] <Arkenklo> Sorry about that, I should'nt have put that on broadcast
[23:58] <cdenny> but the with compiz benchmark, it never gets below 100 fps
[23:58] <stduseren> NEED HELP INSTALLING XCHAT
[23:58] <Anna_111> yeah how do you get to instal gimpshop and xchat on Ubuntu 8.10?
[23:58] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] do you know your cd device name?
[23:58] <[-jon-]> no
[23:58] <aboleth> gimpshop?
[23:58] <aboleth> why would you want that
[23:58] <Arkenklo> ubottu: That was really slow
[23:58] <aboleth> isnt it really buggy
[23:58] <[-jon-]> i just installed fedora on it, and decided to switch to ubuntu because my college blocks fedora repos
[23:58] <milll> elli222: you want to know how to fix it¿
[23:59] <Anna_111> aboleth, I want to test it
[23:59] <_Linuxx_> [-jon-] is it ide?
[23:59] <aboleth> the new gimp seems to take care of most reasons why you would want it
[23:59] <aboleth> ok
[23:59] <aspoor> \
[23:59] <[-jon-]> also not sure
[23:59] <jrib> IntuitiveNipple, volfied2: wget -q -O - http://whatismyip.org
[23:59] <[-jon-]> it's an older machine
[23:59] <stduseren> CAN SOME ONE TELL ME WHERE TO GO FOR AN IIS QUESTION?
[23:59] <gartral> [-jon-]: is the cable wide or skinny?
[23:59] <aboleth> if this takes much longer i might just copy what i have
[23:59] <IntuitiveNipple> jrib: good point :)
[23:59] <aboleth> since i dont know if it will end
[23:59] <Anna_111> aboleth, I use CS2 on my XP box but I want to see if gimpshop mimicks photoshop