[00:49] <keres> is this a 64 bit cpu? http://pastebin.com/m5375b04f
[01:13] <zoredache> keres: don't think so, but don't quote me on that
[01:32] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I have a WUSB54GCSv2 and I tried ndiswrapper to get the win drivers to work with ubuntu 8.10 and havent been able to do anything..searching the net hasnt turned up much of anything either anybody else had any luck with these nic's?
[02:01] <shippo> hello all
[02:02] <shippo> looking for some assistance getting pyneighborhood up and running
[02:02] <shippo> it does not find the shared windows folder when attempting to add it in pyn
[02:13] <shippo> HELLO???
[02:25] <antonix> anybody ever had any problem configuring language support ... i can't seem to get spanish to stick
[02:43] <antonix> anybody ever had any problem configuring language support ... i can't seem to get spanish to stick
[03:49] <mediadragon> Hello! I'm having a bit of trouble installing xubuntu on my laptop. When checking my partitions it gave me a warning message about one of my sectors(?) being HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL, then the partition thing froze at 50%.
[05:32] <Chai619> anyone awake that knows if its normal for xubuntu install to just hang forever?
[05:34] <Chai619> anyone?
[11:32] <luis08> hi everyone! I'm having some resolutions problem... I've changed to 1280x1024, but now all the text looks huge, in the titles, toolbars and so on... and sometimes, when I change the resolution, the panels dissappear... any ideas?
[12:23] <luis08> hi! how can I lock my screen on xfce? there's no such option in 'quit', such as in gnome
[12:23] <TheSheep> alt+ctrl+del
[12:24] <TheSheep> there is also a panel applet you can add
[12:24] <TheSheep> or bind xflock to other key
[12:27] <taw> Is there some simple way to run 32 bit browser in 64 bit ubuntu?
[12:27] <taw> looks like vmware esx console plugin doesn't work in my system, and I'd like to try if question is about 64 bit firefox
[12:31] <luis08> TheSheep, thanks!!
[12:34] <ablomen> taw, google is usefull... http://www.linux.com/feature/54218 << first hit :)
[12:39] <taw> ablomen, apparently I was using wrong keywords, spend 30 minutes on pages saying 'script removed, not relevan anymore, etc'
[12:40] <ablomen> haha ok well my query was: 32bit firefox on 64bit linux :)
[12:40] <taw> I was searching on ubuntu point of view
[12:41] <taw> if there wuold be ready to run packages, or something like that
[12:41] <ablomen> well the link to the ubuntuforums thread in that item has cut-and-pastable content
[12:43] <taw> anyway, there is no maintainable, packaged solutio for problem
[12:43] <taw> just wondering why on earth I even installed 64 bit system :-)
[12:51] <ablomen> heh yeah i always stick to 32b myself
[12:54] <taw> really stupid move from myself, I must admit
[12:54] <taw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[13:47] <bedmunds_> dang it. I got to remember to sign out at home
[13:49] <taw> bedmunds_, http://www.ctrlproxy.org/
[13:50] <bedmunds_> thanks taw that's awesome!
[15:28] <Administrator> im running XAMPP on a xubuntu machine, which is a development web server, and for a reason i dont know of, as of last night, whenever I start XAMPP, my xubuntu wireless connection stops working, and i cant reconnect, i have to restart to connect again
[15:30] <moz2> anyone got any thoughts on that, because its driving me insane, i cant do anything becasue i got disconnected all the time
[15:32] <SiDi> isnt xamp for windows ? T_T
[15:32] <SiDi> moz2, whats your question ?
[15:32] <moz2> its for both
[15:33] <SiDi> you mean lamp, i guess
[15:33] <moz2> yeah
[15:33] <moz2> im wondering whats happened to my wireless connection
[15:33] <moz2> the icon for it completely dissaperes
[15:33] <moz2> at the top, and re plugging in my usb device does not activate it again
[15:34] <SiDi> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdoc.ubuntu-fr.org%2Flamp&sl=fr&tl=en&history_state0=
[15:35] <SiDi> type "nm-applet" to get the applet back
[15:35] <SiDi> i guess you somehow modified your file /etc/network/interfaces, that's the only way for nm-applet to stop loading
[15:37] <moz2> well /etc/network/interfaces hasnt been modified since 25th january, long before i got any problems
[15:38] <moz2> SiDi: and nm-applet gave me the message that it could not acquire the networkmanagerusersettings service and it is already taken. Return: 3
[15:39] <moz2> (nm-applet:5928): GLib-GObject-CRTICIAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[15:41] <SiDi> nm-applet should not launch if /etc/network/interfaces isnt default anyway
[15:41] <SiDi> i'm really curious about knowing what you did in order to install lamp
[15:42] <SiDi> apart from modifying this file (or maybe /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/bind9/* files), i don't see how you could break network-manager
[15:42] <moz2> network manager launches at start up though
[15:42] <SiDi> you should join #ubuntu and ask there, cause i cant help on things i dont know ;P
[15:42] <SiDi> and it crashes when you launch apache2 ?
[15:42] <moz2> and connects to the internet fine, then i telnet in
[15:43] <moz2> i get "Starting XAMPP for Linux 1.7...."
[15:43] <moz2> then "XAMPP: Starting Apache with SSL (and PHP5)..."
[15:43] <moz2> then thats the last message i get, because it disconnects and im telneting in
[15:44] <moz2> if i do it locally, then i will see other messages about XAMPP starting, the network disconnects after the second message
[15:45] <moz2> SiDi: anymore thoughts or you stumped?
[15:45] <SiDi> excuse me, but XAMPP for linux, that sounds like a joke
[15:45] <SiDi> XAMP is a windows port of LAMP
[15:45] <SiDi> you're using a linux port of a windows port of native linux apps. :|
[15:45] <moz2> well its been working fine for a month lol, i start it from /opt/lampp/lampp
[15:46] <SiDi> and i dont see what telnet has to do with launching a lamp server on your machine
[15:46] <SiDi> your objective is to have an apache server with php5 and mysql/postgresql server running on your PC, right ?
[15:46] <moz2> nothing im just saying its useful to do, because i can see what point i lose the connection
[15:46] <moz2> yeah
[15:47] <SiDi> well, remove that huge weird xampp thing :P
[15:47] <SiDi> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdoc.ubuntu-fr.org%2Flamp&sl=en&tl=fr&history_state0= that's a google translate of the french doc
[15:47] <SiDi> just check the name of the apps they install
[15:47] <SiDi> basically apache2 apache2-php5 mysql a 1/2 other packages
[15:47] <SiDi> and then you'll have a default install that works just WELL
[15:47] <SiDi> there also is a package for phpmyadmin
[15:48] <moz2> thanks
[15:48] <moz2> it says on the XAMPP for linux page
[15:48] <moz2> "By the way: In the past this software was called LAMPP but to avoid misconceptions we renamed it to »XAMPP for Linux«. So if you are seeking for LAMPP you're on the right track. ;)"
[15:48] <SiDi> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdoc.ubuntu-fr.org%2Flamp&sl=fr&tl=en *
[15:49] <SiDi> btw, ubuntu server install CD has cool options for LAMP
[15:49] <SiDi> you just have to check a box during the install to get a well configured lamp serv
[15:49] <moz2> dammit i only have an old laptop, that is too old even run uxbuntu lol
[15:50] <moz2> this installtion seems to have really messed up, its taking like 5 minutes to start, should be about 25 seconds
[15:50] <moz2> *xubuntu
[15:50] <moz2> but it just manages, sometiems
[15:50] <SiDi> erm yes
[15:50] <SiDi> definately messed :p
[15:50] <SiDi> show me your /etc/network/interfaces pl0x
[15:51] <moz2> gunna have to give me a sec i tried restarting xampp and its crashed half way through, i cant even ctrl-c out lol
[15:52] <moz2> oh xubuntu's crashed completely! not good. i havent messed with anything
[15:52] <moz2> gunna take a minute to restart, but i can tell you my interfaces file is only two lines long, excluding comments
[15:54] <moz2> its been working absolutely spot on for weeks, i've been configured my databases with phpmyadmin etc but thats all
[15:54] <SiDi> hm
[15:54] <SiDi> auto lo
[15:54] <SiDi> iface lo inet loopback
[15:54] <SiDi> ?
[15:54] <moz2> think so
[15:54] <moz2> just gunna check when its finishing having a heart attack lol
[15:54] <charlie-tca> SiDi: go take a look at http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-linux.html
[15:55] <moz2> i changed my in lamp/htdocs chmod to 777 from 755 as well
[15:55]  * charlie-tca been running XAMPP for Linux for 3 years
[15:55] <moz2> did you ever have it kill your internet connection lol ?
[15:56] <SiDi> imho xampp is a fat app that does apache+php+mysql, charlie-tca
[15:57] <SiDi> and i never managed to make it work, while installing those 3 on my own and modding my conf files was just working fine
[15:57] <charlie-tca> XAMPP is easier to install for testing, and doesn't require the resources that a full apache, php, mysql requires
[15:57] <charlie-tca> It's great for testing my websites before I put them on public display
[15:58] <moz2> yeah this is what im doing
[15:58] <charlie-tca> It also doesn't need the security stuff that a full-blown apache needs
[15:58] <moz2> SiDi: yeah its got those two lines thats all.
[15:58] <charlie-tca> no, never killed the connection. It should be separate
[15:59] <moz2> yeah i cant see how its possible got anything to do with it
[15:59] <moz2> but my internet will be fine, untill i try starting xampp
[15:59] <moz2> then all will go horribly wrong
[16:00] <moz2> and i'll have to restart my computer, to connect to the internet again
[16:00] <charlie-tca> change the port it runs on, normally it has been set for port 80, I think.
[16:01] <moz2> how do i do that - sorry not too experienced with running my own web servers
[16:03] <charlie-tca> Did you set up security on it?
[16:03] <moz2> charlie-tca: i ran the security script yeah
[16:04] <moz2> and its told me its secure now, passwords changed etc
[16:04] <moz2> why?
[16:04] <charlie-tca> Try changing that back.
[16:06] <moz2> charlie-tca: how? the security script seems to only add security now to remove it
[16:06] <moz2> and also i'd need to start mysql it says to change security, and i cant start it without it messing up everything
[16:06] <charlie-tca> I think I had to reinstall to remove it.
[16:07] <moz2> if i uninstall it, will it remove my htdocs and databases
[16:07] <charlie-tca> Try going into lampp/etc/httpd.conf, find the line for Listen 12.23.56.78:80
[16:07] <charlie-tca> make it say Listen 80
[16:08] <moz2> ok
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Also in that file, comment out any LoadModule proxy...
[16:09] <charlie-tca> then restart xampp and see if that worked
[16:10] <moz2> ok i ocmmented out loadmodule proxy*
[16:10] <moz2> but Listen 12.23.56.78:80 was already commented out
[16:10] <moz2> and Listen 80 was already there
[16:11] <charlie-tca> okay
[16:12] <moz2> i get "Starting XAMPP for Linux 1.7...."
[16:12] <moz2> then "XAMPP: Starting Apache with SSL (and PHP5)..."
[16:12] <moz2> and now its taking an unusually long time for the next bit
[16:12] <charlie-tca> that's okay
[16:12] <moz2> and now yeah, the network disconnected like befor
[16:12] <moz2> before
[16:13] <moz2> and as soon as it does that, the rest comes up
[16:13] <moz2> starting mysql
[16:13] <moz2> ftp
[16:13] <moz2> "XAMPP for linux started"
[16:13] <charlie-tca> try not starting some of those modules, then. one at a time
[16:13] <moz2> charlie-tca: so it seems like its getting stuck trying something at the point of starting apache with SSL and php5, and when it disconnects it gets past that bit
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Yeah, it might be the SSL doing it
[16:14] <moz2> argh, now its crashed again :( xubuntu
[16:14] <moz2> theres hard drive activitiy, but i cant do anything
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Find the option to start without ssl
[16:14] <moz2> oh its back, just took ages
[16:15] <moz2> gone again, what the hell is going on
[16:15] <moz2> thats only a little hard drive activity, and its making everything not responding
[16:15] <charlie-tca> it is trying to start something
[16:15] <moz2> ok
[16:16] <moz2> charlie-tca: shall i comment out the ssl_module
[16:17] <charlie-tca> Isn there a starup option for it?
[16:18] <moz2> charlie-tca: how do i change or look at the start up options, i thought this load module commands were that
[16:19] <fbc> What service needs to be running so that thunar sees thumbnails of the videos in a folder?
[16:20] <charlie-tca> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#382
[16:20] <charlie-tca> gives the start and stop options. I don't know  that commenting the module out works if you have it set to startssl
[16:20] <moz2> i should just try starting apache
[16:21] <moz2> by its self
[16:21] <moz2> see if that disconnects my network
[16:21] <fbc> Or that thumbnails get generated
[16:21] <charlie-tca> better to use the stopssl option from the command line and see what it does
[16:22] <charlie-tca> I would try the options one at a time to see if one causes the disconnect
[16:22] <_Pete_> what in the startup script?
[16:22] <moz2> yeah thats what im just going to do, had to restart though
[16:22] <charlie-tca> fbc: I don't know how to see the thumbnails
[16:23] <moz2> _Pete_: no just starting each service one at a time
[16:23] <charlie-tca> what startup script?
[16:23] <moz2> startapache
[16:23] <moz2> startmysql, startftp
[16:24] <_Pete_> yep
[16:24] <fbc> moz2, a2enmod ssl
[16:24] <moz2> whats that
[16:24] <charlie-tca> in XAMPP?
[16:24] <fbc> moz2, or just type a2enmod by itself. it ill give you  list of modules to enable
[16:25] <charlie-tca> vinnl: how do you see thumbnails in thunar?
[16:25] <fbc> charlie-tca, it's usually comes with the apache-utils package
[16:25] <vinnl> charlie-tca, like thumbnails...?
[16:25] <vinnl> Oh xD
[16:26] <charlie-tca> vinnl: yeah
[16:26] <vinnl> I think you need a library for that...
[16:26] <vinnl> Let me see
[16:26] <charlie-tca> fbc wants to know
[16:26] <vinnl> !info thunar-thumbnailers
[16:26] <vinnl> I suppose that's it fbc  :)
[16:27] <fbc> vinnl, charlie-tca , awesome
[16:27] <charlie-tca> thanks, Vinch
[16:27] <vinnl> np :)
[16:27] <charlie-tca> thanks, vinnl
[16:27] <fbc> vinnl, charlie-tca , it says it already installed... how do i invoke it or get it running??
[16:28] <vinnl> Oh hmm... :S
[16:32] <vinnl> fbc, not sure if this helps, but you could try running:
[16:32] <vinnl> /usr/lib/thunar/thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1
[16:32] <vinnl> (In a terminal window)
[16:34] <moz2> charlie-tca: its started apache, and i can access my web pages, but no database yet of course, just trying that
[16:35] <charlie-tca> and it did not kill the connection, yet?
[16:35] <moz2> yeah its fine, sql started as well now
[16:38] <moz2> nah it just died lol
[16:39] <charlie-tca> so it is something in mysql causing it
[16:39] <moz2> when i ran a terminal command from my php page, a GIMP script
[16:39] <charlie-tca> Maybe it is the script
[16:39] <moz2> it seemed to only go wrong when i ran my GIMP script
[16:39] <moz2> which is what it did briefly before it went completely wrong earlier
[16:39] <charlie-tca> Did you start php?
[16:40] <moz2> it starts automatically
[16:40] <moz2> with u start apache
[16:40] <moz2> it must have been anyway because my php mysql queries were working
[16:40] <moz2> oh, the connection just reconnected itself
[16:41] <charlie-tca> something in the script then?
[16:41] <moz2> nah cant be
[16:41] <moz2> the script is nothing to do with the internet, and works fine
[16:41] <fbc> moz2,  if you don't have a2enmod just do " sudo apt-get install apache2.2-common"
[16:41] <moz2> fbc: what can i do with it, how can it help ?
[16:42] <fbc> vinnl, thanks, but it appears to have done nothing..
[16:42] <vinnl> Sorry, then I don't know of anything else you could try :(
[16:42] <fbc> moz2, it will allow you to dynamically enable and disable modules within apache without having to go into the conf files
[16:42] <vinnl> You're using a released version of Xubuntu?
[16:43] <fbc> vinnl, 8.10
[16:44] <fbc> moz2, so it you need to enable ssl with the proper syntax that script will do it for you automatically because i think there is a general statement int the new apache 2 conf that will load all module in a specific directory
[16:44] <fbc> moz2, so that script just copies and does the proper chmod from the modules repository.
[16:45] <moz2> im so confused lol sorry
[16:45] <moz2> i just ran lamp/lamp stopssl
[16:45] <moz2> which is giving the laptop a heart attack as normal
[16:46] <charlie-tca> if stopping it gives it a heart attack, starting it must also
[16:46] <fbc> moz2, I'm not familiar with those commands your using.. I usually just do /etc/init.d/apache2 stop|start|restart
[16:46] <_Pete_> what a hashle, another reason to avoid whole lamp altogether
[16:47] <fbc> moz2, the other command I know for that is "services httpd stop|start|reload|restart"
[16:47] <moz2> _Pete_: it is quite useful for me, as im not familar enough to run each thing seperately, not experienced with web servers
[16:47] <fbc> moz2, but you could use "services apache2" in your case also.
[16:48] <moz2> i dont know what my laptop is doing, its so unresposive after stopping or starting something to do with lampp
[16:48] <fbc> moz2,  or just "service"  sorry.. remove the s
[16:48] <_Pete_> personally, if needed to work with webapps would go with rails or j2ee stuff
[16:48] <_Pete_> and postgres db
[16:48] <moz2> cant even type anything at the moment, barely any hard drive activity but its not responding
[16:49] <moz2> so dissapointing, dont know whats happened to this
[16:50] <moz2> fbc: im using the lampp commands
[16:50] <_Pete_> is the machine alive at all?
[16:50] <moz2> startapache, startmysql, stopssl
[16:50] <moz2> its making noises, it does this after u try stopping or starting something with lampp
[16:50] <_Pete_> sometimes when local interfaces are down still you can log in via ssh
[16:50] <moz2> just cant do anything for ages, dont know what its doing
[16:51] <moz2> everything is fine till lampp starts, then everythign goes as slow as hell and breaks constantly till i restart the whole computer and the cycle begins again
[16:52] <moz2> _Pete_:  i cant log in remotely either
[16:53] <moz2> i just typed in "ifconfig" and it got to "if" and took 3 minutes to display the other characters
[16:53] <moz2> but it sounds like its not doing anything, really confused
[16:53] <_Pete_> strange, then it's totally fcked up
[16:53] <fbc> moz2, how did you install lampp?? I usually install everything individually...mysql,apache2,php, pop,smtp,webmin everything seperately.
[16:53] <moz2> i installed the package XAMPP for linux
[16:54] <moz2> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[16:54] <fbc> moz2, hmm i recommed to install a lamp server from the ubuntu server setup... much easier to deal with and manage...
[16:54] <moz2> unfortunately my laptop  is 128mb ram, and 500mhz
[16:54] <moz2> lol
[16:55] <moz2> it can barely cope with xubuntu
[16:55] <moz2> i dont think ubuntu would work too well sadly
[16:55] <fbc> moz2,  the reality I'm running mostly debian server, but the one ubuntu server edition that I'm running I'm very happy with.
[16:55] <genii> the server version works perfectly well without a gui in even as little as 64mb
[16:56] <fbc> moz2, I think that ubuntu server will run with that... however.. try running TOP see what is hogging up your cpu time.
[16:56] <fbc> press "i" once it runs to filter out idle processes
[16:56] <moz2> its been thinking about ifconfig for over 5 minutes now lol
[16:56] <moz2> so i think thats a way off
[16:57] <moz2> what on earth is it doing..
[16:57] <moz2> nah i've restarted, its a total joke
[16:57] <moz2> do you think i should try ubuntu then?
[16:58] <moz2> the ubuntu server edition ?
[16:59] <fbc> moz2, yeah... at least everything will be easier to manage and you won't have unecesary services running like you would with xubuntu.
[17:00] <moz2> but wait, i need things like GIMP on the server, can i install that?
[17:00] <fbc> moz2, and considering the low resources your machine has, you really shouldn't be running a GUI.
[17:00] <moz2> afterwards, i guess its not included
[17:00] <fbc> moz2, why gimp on your server??
[17:00] <fbc> moz2, what do you need to do with gimp?
[17:01] <moz2> the website i am using on the server runs gimp scripts locally on the server
[17:01] <moz2> is that a problem
[17:01] <fbc> moz2,  you can convert them to use ffmpeg or someother command-line package?
[17:02] <moz2> no its quite a complicated script GIMP specific
[17:02] <fbc> moz2, I've never heard of gimp running without a gui..
[17:02] <moz2> yeah it can, thats how im doing it at the moment
[17:02] <moz2> GIMP python scripts
[17:02] <moz2> with no GUI
[17:03] <fbc> moz2, than you need a machine with more resources. there's no way around it... you really can't stuff a hummer into a smart...
[17:03] <moz2> im calling them from a php page
[17:03] <moz2> but its been working ok on this one! just, i mean for test purproses its been fine
[17:03] <moz2> till everything has gone strrangely wrong
[17:03] <fbc> moz2, if you can get gimp to run without a gui, than you can do it for sure...
[17:04] <moz2> yeah u definately can
[17:04] <fbc> gimp will install without forcing you to installg nome or xcfe or any of those unless they a dependencies...
[17:05] <moz2> can you not run a GUI on the server edition at all ?
[17:05] <fbc> moz2, go for then... your server really does not have the resources for a gui.
[17:05] <fbc> yes you can, but it would be defeating the purpose in your case.
[17:05] <moz2> can you turn it on and off ?
[17:05] <_Pete_> moz2: gui/X is not even installed on default server setup
[17:06] <fbc> moz2, we are trying to get you the most performance out of your resource limited hardware, and than means cutting out un-necessary stuff like X11 and things like that, as they are resource hogs.
[17:06] <moz2> i realise that
[17:07] <moz2> but for me just testing a website and developing, single user, it was working accetably
[17:07] <moz2> acceptably
[17:08] <moz2> i mean, could i try reinstalling XAM, is that worth a shot
[17:08] <moz2> XAMPP
[17:09] <fbc> moz2, well, you will at least find more support resources with the ubuntu server edition than if your trying to convert xubuntu into a server. You can go directly to the #ubuntu-server channel and get more detailed support there... this channel is really for the xcfe gui support.. although you may find people like me and others that own and operate servers.
[17:09] <moz2> yeah i appreciate that
[17:12] <fbc> moz2, np
[17:12] <moz2> fbc: ok so i will try the server edition i think, hope its not too out of my depth though
[17:13] <moz2> fbc: to back up my database, should i just take a backup from phpmyadmin?
[17:14] <fbc> moz2, yeah for sure
[17:15] <moz2> i can just copy my htdocs and my gimp scripts straight out of the folders
[17:15] <moz2> its only a small test database so i havent backed it up already
[17:16] <fbc> moz2,  just ftp down to your desktop.. and bam... blow away your server with an ubuntu-server edition than will assist you with the setup...
[17:17] <moz2> i dont need to ftp everything i only have a small amount
[17:17] <fbc> moz2, your brave for trying to turn xubuntu into a server.. it's really not meant for that.   My send choice is centos, but I'm really partial to debian distros since it was what I learned on...
[17:18] <fbc> moz2, oops I menat second choice.
[17:18] <moz2> im very unexperienced so i will try ubuntu server as i have some poor experience in xubuntu lol
[17:18] <fbc> moz2, Not used to typing on a laptop yet.
[17:18] <charlie-tca> fbc: actually nothing to it, you can install any desktop environment on top of server edition to have a GUI to work from
[17:19] <moz2> thats handy if i need it
[17:19] <moz2> i had to update my kernel to using linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic_2.6.27-11.27_i386.deb to allow my wireless usb stick to be detected, is that going to work on server edition ?
[17:19] <fbc> charlie-tca, yes, tru but at least he won't start with unnecessary service on his resource limited machine.. if not he would startup with tracker running, cups, and stuff like that he won't need to run a lamp server
[17:19] <charlie-tca> server uses a different kernel, not generic
[17:20] <fbc> charlie-tca, remember 500nhz and 128 megs of ram
[17:20] <moz2> lol its a laptop someone gave me for free
[17:20] <moz2> brought in 1999 i think!
[17:21] <charlie-tca> yeah, 128MB ram is light. I tried to install jaunty on that, it is slow
[17:21] <moz2> lol
[17:21] <moz2> everything be a struggle
[17:21] <moz2> can forget loading firefox is under 3 minutes
[17:22] <moz2> *in
[17:22] <charlie-tca> exactly. and running more than one application will swap out! thus the hard drive activity, it is probably swapping everything
[17:22] <moz2> yeah i had guessed that
[17:22] <moz2> isnt firefox quite memory hungry too - not good
[17:24] <charlie-tca> yes. I use epiphany on the old systems
[17:24] <charlie-tca> not as memory intensive
[17:24] <charlie-tca> still uses the mozilla plugins
[17:27] <fbc> charlie-tca, I thnk just ther kernel will load into the first 128megs everythign ele will be swap.. which is why I said go with a no GUI edition... like ubuntu server, or debian(etch) server
[17:27] <charlie-tca> the problem is he needs gimp, which will require a GUI
[17:28] <moz2> no
[17:28] <moz2> trying running "gimp -i -b '(gimp-quit 0)' " for example
[17:28] <charlie-tca> no? then go to the server edition without the gui, you are better off.
[17:28] <moz2> that will load up gimp with no ui, and quit
[17:29] <charlie-tca> unless you can add some ram to that system
[17:29] <moz2> not a hope!
[17:29] <charlie-tca> s/no ui,/no gui,
[17:29] <fbc> charlie-tca, yeah, he'd have to special order memory for a computer made in 1999...I think they used whatever came before SODIMM.
[17:30] <moz2> whats s/ amd / mean ?
[17:30] <moz2> *and
[17:30] <charlie-tca> sorry, it was a mistake
[17:30] <fbc> well, gotta run m y super model wife is giving me that dagger look like "I'm ready to leave and your still sitting at the computer..""  bye guys....
[17:31] <moz2> u can run gimp -i from a telnet client
[17:31] <charlie-tca> fbc: true, for that portable. My desktops are using pc100 and pc133, and it is still available
[17:31] <moz2> so thats no GUI right?
[17:31] <fbc> over and out
[17:31] <charlie-tca> yes, moz2
[17:31] <charlie-tca> but my eyes crossed
[17:31] <charlie-tca> s/ = spelling
[17:32] <moz2> linux-image-2.6.27-11-server_2.6.27-11.27_i386.deb
[17:32] <moz2> so i need that one for the server edition yeah?
[17:32] <charlie-tca> That should work
[17:32] <moz2> good good
[17:32] <moz2> hmm is there anyway i can take a backup of my database
[17:32] <moz2> without using phpmyadmin
[17:32] <moz2> because i dont want to try starting XAMPP again lol
[17:33] <charlie-tca> I don't remember
[17:34] <moz2> ah
[17:34] <moz2> i will have to try starting apache and mysql then and hope for the best
[17:37] <moz2> wroked before so long as i didtn run a gimp script
[17:50] <TheSheep> moz2: mysqldump
[17:51] <moz2> ah thansk im on there now though, thanks away
[18:43] <Slonkie> hi is it possible to make some applications automaticly start when i boot into xubuntu?
[18:45] <brandonban6> Hi Slonkie , Applications Settings > Settings Manager > Autostart Applications.
[18:47] <Slonkie> but how am i to add something? where do i find appz i installed with apt-get install or trough the package manager?
[18:48] <zoredache> one method is to look at what files came as part of the package.  Usually the binary you start will be in /usr/bin/
[18:49] <zoredache> to see the contents use dpkg -L packagename or look at the 'list files' for the package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:50] <Slonkie> Thanks!
[18:50] <Slonkie> /usr/bin/ was where they were placed :)
[18:50] <zoredache> freequently you can guess.  So Mousepad, just run 'mousepad', for pidgin run 'pidgin' and so on
[19:04] <TheSheep> you can also grep in /usr/share/applications
[20:43] <Javier_Brat> hi all :) what is official language here?
[20:43] <knome> Javier_Brat, english
[20:44] <Javier_Brat> well, try to speak clearly :)
[20:44] <knome> Javier_Brat, what is your main language?
[20:45] <Javier_Brat> czech :)
[20:45] <Javier_Brat> I have a problem with locking screen when my lid is closed (IBM T40). Googled for 2 days and still nothing working
[20:45] <knome> right... i don't think we have a czech ubuntu channel :)
[20:45] <knome> i have very little experience with those issues :/
[20:46] <Javier_Brat> we have czech ubuntu channel on jabber, but this should be xubuntu :) I give it a try
[20:46] <knome> right.
[20:47] <Javier_Brat> my other problem is sudoers xD
[20:48] <knome> did you modify it?
[20:48] <Javier_Brat> yep, with visudo, read a lot
[20:49] <knome> you should never edit sudoers file
[20:49] <Slonkie> Hi, i was just wondering, as i look upon my CPU usage bar and it says my CPU is only running 1000mhz per core. but actually my CPU is 1900mhz per core, how do i change this?
[20:49] <Javier_Brat> Slonkie: I suppose governor apllet (plugin)
[20:50] <Javier_Brat> knome: I want to run smbmount and one my script without entering a password
[20:50] <knome> Slonkie, are you doing something cpu intensive?
[20:50] <Slonkie> no
[20:50] <Slonkie> not really.. but i just want it to be 1900mhz when it's plugged in and 1000mhz when it's on battery
[20:50] <knome> Slonkie, try to and see if the cpu runs 1900 then.
[20:51] <Slonkie> how would you suggest i try doing some load on the cpu?
[20:51] <knome> Slonkie, there's no real reason to force it running 1900. it should automatically, when you do something cpu intensive
[20:51] <knome> ermm..
[20:54] <knome> Slonkie, 'ls -R /*' should be fine.
[20:54] <knome> Slonkie, if not, open two terminals and run simultaneously.
[21:02] <Javier_Brat> well, sudoers working :) don't know how is it possible, but it works xD
[21:03] <atari> does anyone know how to generate an old-fashioned xorg.conf?
[23:19] <Supavisah> How to get those cool statistics on your desktop in XUbuntu?
[23:22] <rocko> widgets Supavisah
[23:22] <Supavisah> I thought so
[23:22] <Supavisah> but couldn't find it in the package manager
[23:22] <rocko> it depends you can do it a bunch of ways
[23:22] <rocko> the xfce panel offers stuff like that
[23:22] <rocko> can you use 3d?
[23:23] <rocko> if you can the awm is pretty cool for that
[23:24] <rocko> but you will need 3d enabled in xfce
[23:24] <rocko> I mean for the desktop to be able to use 3d
[23:24] <rocko> composite
[23:24] <rocko> or use compiz
[23:24] <Supavisah> I know..
[23:24] <Supavisah> Compiz Fusion.
[23:33] <IAmWill> my media keys on my laptop stopped working, and sound is now coming out of both speakers and headphones as if they were one... (when i plug the headphones in, they dont shut the speakers off) .......  can anyone else assist