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mozdoes no one know anything about this? sorry i've posted this question but im new and totally stuck00:17
moz_my laptop is making a really loud continious bleep sound, after a couple of minutes of loading, is this over heating? only have heard it since i installed ubuntu server01:23
moz_earlier today01:24
moz_and it wont stop till i shut it down01:24
StargazerI'm installing Ubuntu server and it's asking what the server will be for. I'm only going to use it to script some programs and compile them, what do i set the server as ?01:27
moz_i dont have permissions for anything01:30
moz_i cant even create a new file, says "cannot open swap file for <file> recovery impossible"01:30
hadsStargazer: Just select nothing01:30
moz_whats happened to my installation, i dont have permissions for any file01:32
moz_even with sudo01:32
moz_ok i think i've managed to fix that02:02
moz_im in kernel 2.6.27-11-server which i have installed02:03
moz_which is meant to automatically provide support for wireless cards that use the RTL8781 drivers02:03
moz_*RTL8187 i mean02:04
moz_i've added the line 'rtl8187' to /etc/modules, and after restarting, when plugging in my usb wireless stick, i get a short high piitched noise instead of nothing as before, but im still not seeing it, i guess it should appear in 'ifconfig' as wlan0 but it doesnt, any idea why this is?02:05
moz_the light on the wireless stick is not on02:05
moz_please can someone assist me on this, really quite stuck, need to get my internet back working on my laptop02:12
moz_im using the F5D7050 USB dongle i found this blog to help : http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=3002:15
twbmoz_: is this related to ubuntu *servers*?02:28
moz_twb: yes because i got it working on ubuntu previously02:28
StargazerIs there a command available to check on battery level ?02:29
Stargazer-on +the*02:29
twbStargazer: the raw data is in /sys/class/power_supply/02:29
twbStargazer: e.g. sh -c 'cd /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 && echo \ $((100 * `cat charge_now` / `cat charge_full`))%'02:29
StargazerYou remembered that, no, you _KNEW_ all that ?02:30
twbStargazer: all what?02:31
StargazerAll that command.02:31
StargazerThere an easier way to check ? like battery -%02:32
Stargazer'battery -%' *02:32
twbStargazer: well, just write that line into a file02:32
twbStargazer: but I imagine there are packages to do it for you02:32
StargazerOh, about that.02:33
twbNote that my line above assumes you only have one battery.02:33
StargazerUbuntu Server didn't connect to my router when i was installing.02:33
p_quarlesStargazer: acpi -t will give you battery info on many systems02:33
twbp_quarles: thanks, that'd be one of those packages that I forgot the names of :-)02:33
Stargazer... how do i connect ubuntu server to my router ?02:36
p_quarlesStargazer: with an ethernet cable? if it doesn't get an ip address automatically, you'll need to  start looking for error messages02:37
StargazerWhere should i look for the errors, on startup ?02:37
p_quarlesrun 'sudo dhclient'02:38
Stargazer'egrep: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory;'02:39
StargazerFor the most part that's all. ^02:41
p_quarlesinteresting; what's the result of ls -l /etc/resolv.conf ?02:41
Stargazer-rw-r--r-- root root 46 2009-03-17 21:39 /etc.resolv.conf02:42
p_quarleswell then it's lying02:43
StargazerBug, maybe ? (8.10)02:44
twbI blame NetworkManager02:44
twbIn my experience, it is the root cause of all network problems.02:44
twb*ALL* of them!02:44
* twb smashes through a wall02:44
p_quarlesStargazer: what it's telling you doesn't make sense; I've got no clue; best bet here is to idle until someone who does answers02:45
p_quarlestwb: +102:45
* Stargazer will soon begin to rot.02:45
twbIssues like "I installed a NIS client as normal on my new Ubuntu desktop and now my machine takes half an hour to boot."02:46
twbYes, that's right, kids, NetworkManager was trying to use NIS to find out who owned itself!02:46
StargazerMind***~02:48
StargazerSo, um, i use 'sudo su' and do 'dhclient' and that file(/etc/resolv.conf) now exists in it's all power sight.02:50
p_quarles"sudo su" is something that works but isn't right; please use sudo -i02:52
p_quarlesbecause at least people QA that02:53
StargazerWhat does 'QA' mean ?02:53
p_quarlesquality assurance02:55
StargazerAh.02:55
p_quarlesas far as I know, chaining sudo and su isn't supported by anyone02:55
hadssudo -s would be the equivilent02:55
p_quarlesand sudo has its own options for opening shells02:55
p_quarleshads: that too02:55
hadssudo -i would be sudo su -02:56
hads(just to be pedantic) :)02:56
moz_how do i check if my wireless usb stick is installed?02:56
Kamping_Kaiserif a usb port is full, its probably 'installed' :02:56
Kamping_Kaiser:P02:56
p_quarleshads: yes, you're absolutely right; I just prefer sudo -i / su - :)02:56
moz_Kamping_Kaiser: what do you mean ?02:58
twbsudo su is wrong; it should be 'sudo su -'02:58
p_quarlesmoz_: iwconfig02:58
StargazerEither way, '/etc/resolv.conf' now exists. so, um, no "errors" as far as i can tell.02:59
hadstwb: We just had this discussion :)02:59
p_quarlestwb: the first preserves the user environment; the second (better imo) switches to root's environment02:59
moz_oh i've got a wlan0, i guess that means installed02:59
twbRight.02:59
twbOtherwise root shits all over your e.g. .aptitude/config02:59
hadsSee above, sudo -(i|s)03:00
Kamping_Kaisertwb, more important - it mods your .vimrc! :O03:00
twbKamping_Kaiser: I wouldn't know about that.03:00
twbI use vi.03:00
StargazerUbuntu has evolved to the point where it adapts to it's pleasing.03:01
twbvim is for little girls who never learnt ed03:01
* Kamping_Kaiser shuns twb 03:01
hadsIs sudo su for people that didn't learn sudo?03:01
twbhads: chiark-really is that :PO03:01
JanCtwb: so why don't you use ed instead of vi then  :P03:02
hadsheh03:02
p_quarleshads: insofar as using both at the same time is redundant, yes03:02
geniiGah. editor warz03:03
twbJanC: actually I mostly use cat and sed --in-place.03:03
StargazerNew topic/question: how do i enable the rest of the repos ?03:03
twbStargazer: carefully03:03
hadsStargazer: /etc/apt/sources.list03:03
moz_how do u actually try connecting to a wireless network with a terminal03:07
moz_only ever done it with network manager03:07
storrgiei am running a verlihub server on ubuntu, how can I add it to my hosts.allow03:15
moz_sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "tp1"03:16
moz_i tried this03:16
moz_but it just returned straight away there was no wireless activity noise03:16
moz_what am i doing wrong?03:16
moz_ok i got it, sort of03:23
moz_i set the essid and then the key03:23
moz_then connected using sudo dhclient wlan003:24
moz_but i got some messages saying egrep /etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory03:24
TimReichhartcould anybody help me with a issue with nagios303:24
moz_chown: failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf' : no such file or directory03:25
moz_chmod: failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf' : no such file or directory03:25
infinitymoz_: You really wanted to be setting this up in /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces) and using ifup/ifdown to manage the interface.03:25
infinitymoz_: dhclient run raw will not often behave quite as you expect.03:25
moz_i can ping my router03:26
moz_but not any internet address03:26
moz_so thats something03:26
infinitymoz_: Define "internet address".03:26
moz_ping google.com03:26
moz_was unknown host03:26
infinitymoz_: If you mean hostnames, rather than IP addresses, that would be because you have no resolv.conf. :P03:26
moz_infinity: why is that? what does the file do03:27
TimReichhartdoes anybody know nagios3?03:27
infinitymoz_: dhclient needs to write your nameserver addresses to resolv.conf.03:27
infinitymoz_: No nameservers, no DNS resolution, no google.com03:27
moz_but it cant access that file, do I need to create it? im not sure how to fix it03:27
infinitymoz_: Like I said, you would have been much better off doing this with higher level interfaces (ifupdown) rather than manually. :/03:28
infinitymoz_: But, at a guess, "sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf && sudo dhclient wlan0" would fix it up.  Ish.03:29
* infinity goes to find some dinner or something.03:29
moz_infinity: i will try thanks03:29
TimReichhartok i guess no help then03:29
TimReichhartanybody know how to reconfigure a package inside of ubuntu 8.10 server?03:31
infinityTimReichhart: dpkg-reconfigure <package>03:33
TimReichhartthanks infinity03:34
moz_a question, im trying to update my installation, but its tell me i need to install the kernel linux-image-2.6.27-7-server when i just installed linux-image-2.6.27-11-server as this is the first kernel with a driver that works with my USB stick, should I allow the update?03:40
moz_i thought 2.6.27-11-server was stable now03:41
oh_noeswhy isnt ubuntu server spitting out anything on /dev/random?03:55
oh_noesIm trying to generate a gpg but its not generating it, it wants random but cat /etc/random isnt giving me anything03:55
oh_noesis there an AMD64 version of Ubuntu JeOS hardy 8.04?04:25
giovani3oh_noes: not afaik, it says right on the JeOS page, x8604:28
giovani3and I don't know why /dev/random isn't working for you -- it should04:28
oh_noesit's working .. it's just not outputting a lot of info.  So random apps, take a long time to get a bugger04:30
oh_noesbuffer*04:30
giovani3right, try /dev/urandom instead04:31
giovani3less entropy04:31
oh_noescan't ... it's gpg reading /dev/random, not me.  Anywho, it finished it just took longer04:34
mennisAnyone here familiar with Coraid AoE based SANs?05:06
yoophgluphello, i need help with remote desktop connections is this a good place for help05:24
yoophglupi am using ubuntu and vinagre05:25
hadsyoophglup: Try #ubuntu05:27
sLaeYa!paste06:31
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)06:31
sLaeYahi I have just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 8.10 - which worked seemlessly and then ISPconfig06:33
sLaeYaI am now having problems when the server starts with bind9 and pop3 failing - Error log for bind http://paste.ubuntu.com/132863/06:34
sLaeYahelp or suggestions would be greatly appreciated06:34
sLaeYahey is anyone in here who can help with bind9 please07:04
uvirtbotNew bug: #344678 in samba (main) "samba password create error after user has been deleted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34467807:26
krautmoin09:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #343740 in samba (main) "Update from 8.04.1 to 8.10 failed" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34374010:06
dmanhey guys, for some reason when i hotplug my sata drive it keeps getting an incremented /dev/sd* entry10:23
dmanany idea why?10:23
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sLaeYaevening all12:23
sLaeYa!paste12:23
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)12:23
sLaeYaI'm currently having issues with authing on my mailserver - via webmail and also external mail clients ie. outlook, here is a snippet from the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/133003/12:25
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sorensLaeYa: Yes?12:35
sorensLaeYa: Have you cecked your MYSQL_{SERVER,SOCKET} settings?12:35
heath|workhello... what is the command to refresh /dev/disk/by-uuid ?12:40
[1]sLaeYahi soren, sorry my internet is playing up12:41
[1]sLaeYaI haven't checked the MYSQL_{SERVER,SOCKET} settings as I am not sure how to do this12:41
soren[1]sLaeYa: It says how right there in your error message?12:42
[1]sLaeYaoh, i thought you were referring to mysql config12:42
[1]sLaeYai have absolutely nothing in /etc/courier/authmysqlrc does this mean I have setup my mysql wrong ?12:44
[1]sLaeYahowever I have a file authmysqlrc~12:46
sorenit's kind of hard to tell with the amount of information you've given.12:48
sorenWhat have you done to teach courier to talk to your mysql server.12:48
soren=12:48
soren?12:48
[1]sLaeYaI followed a readme to install an Ubuntu 8.10 server with ISPconfig12:50
heath|workCan you have 2 disks with the same label mounted?12:50
heath|work[1]sLaeYa, we run ISPconfig here on ubuntu... what issue are you having?12:51
Ethoshi guys, whats the easiest way to regenerate grub12:51
Ethosi've copied over a server to a new hdd and it won't boot12:51
EthosI assume it's just grub that's messing up as it says "non-system disk"12:51
[1]sLaeYaI am unable to authenticate with webmail or using pop3 I am getting this error in the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/133003/12:52
heath|workare you able to log in to the admin side of ISPconfig?12:53
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sLaeYaI also have the worst wireless internet connection at home, but thats another story12:56
sLaeYa***the last thing I saw before I dropped was*** my post about pastebin12:56
sLaeYaI mean - my post with a pastebin link12:57
heath|worksLaeYa, can you connect via the admin portion of ISPconfig?12:57
sLaeYayes12:57
heath|workeverything is working in there then, user and sites are add12:58
ScottKEthos: Did you create and copy over the /boot partition?12:59
sLaeYaeverything is working, I can add users I have added a site13:00
sLaeYaand email accounts, and ftp users13:00
sLaeYaFTP works - email doesn't13:00
EthosIt was supposed to, but i've got a feeling it didn't13:00
EthosI used "ping" and selected all 3 partitions13:00
heath|workin the services in the admin... is email running?13:00
sLaeYayes - all services are running13:01
sLaeYawebserver, ftpserver, smtpserver, pop3server, bindserver and mysqlserver all show as running13:02
heath|worksLaeYa, try to telnet to 110 and make sure it is answering.  telnet server 11013:05
sLaeYayes its working13:07
sLaeYa+Ok Hello there.13:07
heath|workThe only other thing I can think of is you forgot to put a check by Mailuser login of the site13:09
ivoksispconfig?13:09
heath|workyeah13:09
heath|worksLaeYa, is having issues logging in to get mail13:10
heath|workpop or web13:10
sLaeYaboth13:10
sLaeYai have ticked the mailuser box13:10
heath|workdoes anyone know the command to refresh /dev/disk after adding a new partition?13:11
ballIs software RAID tricky to set up on Ubuntu Server?13:13
heath|workball, no13:13
heath|workI use mdadm13:13
sLaeYaim ready to format the silly thing, only ive done this 3 times and it hasnt helped13:14
ballheath|work: thanks13:14
heath|worknp... there are plenty of good tutorials on the net13:14
heath|worksLaeYa, I believe everything is setup right.13:15
sLaeYaI thought it was but I'm still getting the authentication error13:15
heath|workhow are you trying to log into webmail... using user@domain.com ?13:15
sLaeYaMar 18 20:49:56 server1 authdaemond: authmysql: MYSQL_SERVER nor MYSQL_SOCKET set in/etc/courier/authmysqlrc.13:15
sLaeYaI have tried user@domain.com web1_user web1_user@domain.com13:16
Ethossounds like you simply haven't set it up right13:16
Ethoshave you tried following the guides?13:16
heath|worksLaeYa, http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17231913:17
sorenheath|work: udevadm trigger13:17
heath|worksoren, nice... that will not change anything in use?13:18
bromic94hey how do i know if apache is starting as root13:19
sorenheath|work: It probably will.13:20
sorenheath|work: Proceed with caution :)13:20
heath|workhmmm.... I used a cmd once and of-course didn't write it down that worked perfect, but I can't find it13:20
sorenheath|work: Could have been udevadm trigger (or just udevtrigger, depending on the age of the system).13:21
heath|worksoren, thanks... I will read through the man pages to see how bad off I cam... I have a production server that I created a new part for, but need to get the UUID in /dev/disk13:22
sLaeYaheath that confused me more than anything :(13:22
heath|worklol... sorry, it just looked like your issue13:23
sorenheath|work: Oh, you could just try "partprobe /dev/sd?"13:23
heath|worksoren, THAT's IT13:23
heath|workdamn... I have been torturing myself all morning!!13:23
heath|workthanks13:23
sLaeYait looked similar but it was written by someone who didn't have a good grasp of english, english isn't my first language so I don't understand it properly13:23
sorenheath|work: I thought you had just changed the contents of existing partitions. In that case, you /do/ need to udevadm trigger to pick up the new uuid.13:24
sorenheath|work: From Jaunty and onwards, though, you wouldn't need to do anything. Both things would automatically be dealt with by udev.13:24
heath|workI even typed part... lol13:24
bromic94what are the big changes in 9.04 server?13:24
heath|worksoren, cool, this server is going to be here till 2013 though13:25
heath|workLTS13:25
sorenheath|work: "both things" being "adding a partition and putting a filesystem on it" and "re-mkfs'ing an existing partition and have the new uuid symlink pop up"13:25
ballI'm debating whether to try Ubuntu Server on this machine13:25
sorenbromic94: I don't have a list handy, I'm afraid. I think there's something on the wiki, but I'm not sure. I know the few things, I've been working on myself, and some of the stuff others have been working on, but I don't have an exhaustive list.13:26
bromic94soren: what have you been working on13:26
bromic94i just meant what you guys are aware of13:26
sorenbromic94: I've been working on lots of virtualisation and cloud computing stuff.13:27
bromic94nice13:27
sorenbromic94: And probably some other stuff I've forgotten about.13:27
sorenI keep myself busy :)13:27
bromic94when i set up phpmyadmin i get invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache-ssl not found13:27
bromic94it can not find the directory apache-ssl bc its not there13:28
bromic94but i followed these instructions to setup ssl http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html13:28
bromic94i want it to be only apache-ssl and not apache2-ssl and apache213:29
sorenbromic94: You really don't :)13:30
sorenbromic94: apache-ssl is *ancient*13:30
bromic94oh ok13:30
bromic94i want to go this: https://serverdomain.com/phpmadmin goes to phpmyadmin only not http13:30
sorenI think the Roman Empire's web page was hosted on it. Seriously, tt's not what you want.13:30
Ethoslol13:30
AnRkeyhow can i stop the debian-installer from checking security.ubuntu.com repo during preseeded installs?13:30
bromic94ok13:30
bromic94i want a secure connection to phpmyadmin through https and not http13:31
sorenAnRkey: Put "d-i apt-setup/security_host string" in your preseed.13:32
sorenbromic94: Set up phpmyadmin as you normally would and move the "Alias /phpmyadmin" definition into your SSL VirtualHost.13:32
bromic94oh ok...so in the VH for http take out the alias13:33
bromic94the alias for https is alraedy in there i just nwat to remove the one for htpt13:33
sLaeYahow would I do a clean install of the sasl ?13:33
AnRkeysoren, thanks trying it now13:34
bromic94that alias would be in the file /etc/apache2/sites-avaiable/default?13:34
AnRkeysoren, thanks that fixed my problem13:38
sorenAnRkey: cool13:39
AnRkeyshweet, it's flying past that part now, much faster13:39
AnRkeyw000t13:39
bromic94anyone?13:39
bromic94i think it is under there but did not find it13:39
orudieivoks, hi13:40
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bromic94when you install phpmyadnmin it goes for https and http i wnat to remove access via http how can i do that13:43
bromic94i know i haev to go and remove the alias but where is the alias listed13:43
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AnRkeybromic94, i know a little about apache configs (very little) taking a look at mine for u quick13:52
AnRkeybrb13:52
AnRkeybromic94, have you setup https for apache yet?13:53
AnRkeyif you want to force https you can do it with a .htaccess file and leave http on13:54
AnRkeythat way if someone uses http it auto switches to https13:55
AnRkeybromic94, http://plesk.hostza.co.za13:55
AnRkeyexample of it working there13:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #344816 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql-server-5.0: Leaves password in debconf database" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34481613:56
geniiHm. Another reason not to use mysql13:58
bromic94_who sent me the stuff for gruffi.hostza.co.za?14:11
bromic94_and yes i have https set up for apache14:11
bromic94_already14:11
moz_is there a quick guide to setting up phpmyadmin on ubuntu server?14:16
Ethossudo apt-get install phpmyadmin14:18
EthosTo set up under Apache all you need to do is include the following line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.14:19
EthosInclude /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf14:19
bromic94_Ethos: want to set it up only for https14:19
bromic94_not http14:19
EthosNo idea14:20
EthosI just read "[14:16] < moz_> is there a quick guide to setting up phpmyadmin on ubuntu server?14:20
Ethos"14:20
EthosWhich says nothing about https :D14:20
moz_http14:20
moz_thanks14:20
bromic94_Ethos: oh ok14:21
bromic94_sorry14:21
Ethos:)14:21
moz_will give it a whirl14:23
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bromic94finally lol14:23
bromic94whats a good web admin gui for server14:25
bromic94like webmin, cpanel, etc14:25
henkjanbromic94: openpanel14:26
henkjanbromic94: depends on your needs14:26
bromic94the sources.list is where again?14:27
henkjan/etc/apt14:28
bromic94ok thanks14:28
bromic94memory lapse lol14:28
bromic94henkjan: going to try it out14:30
bromic94is that the only open source one?14:30
geniibromic94: There is ispconfig and ebox14:33
bromic94i hate ebox14:33
bromic94i have not dealt with ispconfig14:33
bromic94could you send me a screen shot of openpanel id ont see where uc an see ss on their site14:34
geniibromic94: ispconfig is good but as far as I know no deb package right now, so manual install14:34
dexembromic94, why you don't like ebox?14:34
bromic94i just done14:34
bromic94*dont14:34
bromic94for what i need to use it for like stuff that is precompiled14:34
bromic94ebox u have to add stuff14:34
henkjanbromic94: http://documentation.openpanel.com/index.php/End_users14:36
orudiei need help please i followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html now no mail is going in or out14:36
bromic94dexem: u use ebox?14:36
bromic94henkjan and dexem and genii ebox the people would need to use it dont have time to manually install it even though it is not that hard14:37
orudieplease someone help14:37
giovani3orudie: did you do the "testing" section with telnet?14:38
dexembromic94, well, somehow yes...14:38
dexembromic94, what things do you usually need to add manually?14:38
orudiegiovani3, yes i have14:38
orudiei just want to undo it14:38
giovani3orudie: and what happened?14:38
giovani3then undo it ... all the steps you did are right there14:38
jurismHi! Can You help me with file permissions? I have virtualmin (webmin) I have 2 partitions one /root, other /home (where all WEB content are located). I replaces system disk (/root) and now I have permission problems. Can You give me pelase some suggestions? Thank You!14:38
orudiegiovani3, i have, but nothing is going in or out14:38
orudiegiovani3, i am trying to undo it for now14:38
giovani3then you didn't undo all of your steps :)14:38
orudiewell by stopping daemos14:39
orudiecan you please help me with this14:39
orudiesudo postconf -e 'content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024'14:39
orudiethat right there i dont know how to undo14:39
orudiegiovani3, dude please14:40
giovani3orudie: you have to calm down ... this is free support, I'm working14:41
orudiegiovani3, ok... not sure how to undo this line sudo postconf -e 'content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024'14:42
giovani3orudie: it's in your /etc/postfix/main.cf14:42
giovani3I believe14:42
orudieok i removed that line now able to receive messages, but not send out14:46
giovani3once again ... you simply have to undo what you've done -- I have no clue what you've done14:46
orudieok i have undone everything and it seem to work like before14:55
orudiei'll work on this at night to make sure there is no email downtime14:55
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moz_i cant see to upload a file on my ftp client, to my ftp server that is running ubuntu server15:24
moz_i have enabled write access in the config files, and my 'www' directly is set to 777 chmod15:25
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moz_im using vsftpd15:25
moz_and smart ftp from a windows machine as client15:25
moz_are there any common mistakes i may have made15:25
moz_oh it seems to have made it in now... little bit confusing15:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #328688 in bind9 (main) "[dapper] socket.c:1616: INSIST(!sock->pending_recv) failed [fixed 9.3.5-P2]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32868815:30
orudieis there a way to move files from one box to another using terminal ?15:36
billykorudie: rsync is probably easiest15:37
billykyou could also use netcat and scp15:38
orudieoh scp i remember using that a while ago15:38
billykorudie: if you need to copy to a windows box, smb might be easiest though since windows supports that natively15:39
billykbut rsync is my fav <315:39
orudienope not windows15:39
orudiefrom ubuntu server to centos15:39
geniiYou can install rsync on windows boxes with for instance cygwin15:44
billykgenii: didnt know that.  cool :-)15:45
geniibillyk: np15:45
maswanYou can also install ubuntu on windows boxes with for instance the ubuntu-server cd ;)15:45
geniimaswan: Hehe :)15:45
billykhaah i know that15:46
geniibillyk: MS also has some utilities called Services For Unix which includs stuff like nfs which can also be used for backups15:51
billykmeh, I'm happy with rsync for backups15:52
billykoh, one question I had, I've always wondered which was fastest for copying data (least overhead)15:53
billykftp, scp, smb, rsync, nfs15:53
geniidifferential rsync for me15:55
{bosco}anyone know of a good site (how to ) to make it so users on my server can only view there own home dir and nothing else so they cant {cd} outsite of it???15:56
heath|workwhen is the release date for 9.04?15:56
heath|work{bosco}, there was a put my users in jail thread on the forums...15:59
heath|workhere it is... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69610315:59
{bosco}thanks i will take a look16:01
heath|work{bosco}, are they local users or remote?16:01
{bosco}i only allow sftp and ssh access or will once the switch is done16:08
{bosco}heathjwork16:09
{bosco}heath|work:16:09
{bosco}you there16:10
heath|work{bosco}, can't you just change the other perm to 0 for all folders you don't want them to get inito16:10
{bosco}idk lol16:10
{bosco}i just want them not to be able to view anything else but there home dir how hard can that be lol16:11
{bosco}heath|work:16:13
{bosco}you there16:14
heath|workit's not hard something like find / -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec chmod o-rwx '{}' \;16:16
heath|workyou can't cd on a dir that is not exec16:16
heath|worktest that first^^ I just shat it out16:16
jmarsdenheath|work: If your system is a web server that will break it, and so on and so forth... :)  I think the more interesting issue is exactly *why* {bosco}  feels that for users to be able to look at the contents of (say) /bin or /usr/bin is a problem and something he needs to prevent...??  What is in there that is so secret??  if there are a few directories on his machine that for some reason *are* secret but publica16:26
jmarsdenlly readable, then it makes sense to just protect those...16:26
heath|workI agree16:29
mennisAnyone here familiar with SAN gear from Coraid?16:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #344911 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "apparmor profile deny write to /tmp in Ubuntu 8.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34491116:45
orudiei'm using a vps account to deploy ubuntu 8.10 server16:49
orudieand it installs only the "basic core" , how would i get it to the standard ubuntu server , lets say if i would have installed it from a cd16:50
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mathiazkirkland: likewise-open questions?17:44
kirkland<kirkland> mathiaz: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/likewise-open/+bug/32360117:45
kirkland<bugbot> Launchpad bug 323601 in likewise-open "[FFe] Upgrade to likewise-open 5 for Jaunty" [Wishlist,Fix committed]17:45
kirkland<kirkland> mathiaz: looks to me that likewise-open5 is a completely new package17:45
kirkland<kirkland> mathiaz: that's going to need to co-reside with likewise-open17:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 323601 in likewise-open "[FFe] Upgrade to likewise-open 5 for Jaunty" [Wishlist,Fix committed]17:45
kirkland<kirkland> mathiaz: which is 4.117:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 323601 in likewise-open "[FFe] Upgrade to likewise-open 5 for Jaunty" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32360117:45
mathiazkirkland: correct17:45
kirklandmathiaz: and this new package is destined for universe, for jaunty, right?17:45
mathiazkirkland: yes17:46
kirklandmathiaz: coolio, that's all i had ;-)17:46
kirklandmathiaz: thanks.17:46
mathiazkirkland: np :)17:46
kpettitI'm trying to use the GUI network-manager for VPN.  It works great, but if I try to add anything custom through the GUI like routes, etc it looses those changes once I leave the dialog box.  Any ideas what I can do to keep the custom information I put in?17:48
kpettitit's using network-manager with the pptp module17:49
smetjhello, I was a bit surprised with the lack of official support for xen in ubuntu server and choosing kvm instead.  I was wondering if kvm is actually already production ready, and why xen is denied in such a way?18:22
kpettit Ah I think I figured it out.  Have to hand edit  a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d18:25
kpettitAnybody know how I can findoud the default route from the commandline?  I need to grab the default route in the script I'm going to write.  I want to avoid having to parse through the route -n info18:25
kpettitsmetj: I feel your pain.18:25
kpettitI love xen, but for some reason it's a pain in the ass to setup and use.  I've had problems with xen on every distro I've tried.  kvm was ok, but i think it's still slow18:26
kpettitMy favorite vm solution so far is the free vmware-server 2.x18:26
kpettitGives you a web interface that you can add/edit/view vm's.  Just need to have firefox or ie18:27
racecar56ie = fail18:27
kpettitIE is my favorite thing in the world, but it's nice for my users.18:27
stefan_cankpettit, but is xen faster than vmware ?18:27
kpettitIt's supposed to be, but I'd have to have it running first to find out18:28
racecar56well, if anyone here had experience in helping me from before about my hp mediasmart ex475... i have news18:28
stefan_canthat is if you tried it , as I didn't have the  chance yet18:28
racecar56im vmware-ing a vm of it now, and i can be able to see what to do now...18:28
kpettitxen requires the newer processors with the VM extensions to work at all.  And I know if you have a linux xen server running linux it's faster than just about anything besides uml (user mode linux)18:29
kpettitracecar56: Make sure first of all that you have one of the newer processors that can run xen18:29
racecar56well... is amd live good enough?18:30
racecar56thats what its got18:30
racecar56with 512 mb ram18:30
jmarsdenkpettit: For the default route, you can either parse route -n output or parse /proc/net/route :)  But, since it *is* the default, does your script truly need it?18:30
racecar56(heehee)18:30
kpettitI think the process extension is vt or vtx18:30
kpettitjmarsden: yes.  Becuase I need to have a proper if-down type of script.   So I want to have that info at the ready18:31
kpettitracecar56: I don't think so.  If the processor is older than about 1-2 years probally not18:31
racecar56ok... i was planning to use it as a web server anyway18:32
kpettitracecar56: check this out http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors18:32
kpettitracecar56: you can still use vmware or VirtualBox.  VirtualBox I beleive is opensource, or was anyways.  Been awhile sense I've tried it18:33
racecar56there is opensource and freeware versions of vbox... and my desktop pc (alongside my old laptop) can run that...18:33
kpettitFYI don't use VMware or the like to run a gateway, or voip vm.  It's caused me alot of headache trying, there are some minute timing issues18:33
jmarsdenracecar56: Run    egrep '(vmx|svm)' --color=always /proc/cpuinfo     to check for the relevant CPU flags See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation18:34
kpettitjmarsden: nice.  I'm going to have to note that one18:34
racecar56well i cant do that now its running in a vmware vm18:35
racecar56which would mean it would say stuff about vmware's/my host pc's processor (intel core 2 quad 8D )18:36
jmarsdenracecar56: No, do that in a shell on running on the "real" OS, not one inside a VM :)18:36
racecar56where 8D = :D with sunglasses18:36
racecar56i cant see whats on my server o.o18:36
racecar56i dont have a monitor port18:36
kpettitracecar56: it's the real os (host) that needs to have the proper processor extensions18:36
kpettityou can ssh to it18:36
racecar56so i ssh it instead... but i yet have to find out will it work18:36
jmarsdenYou can't ssh into the real OS on your server???18:36
racecar56it dosent have internet/dosent even boot18:37
jmarsdenAh... if you can't boot it, you can't run shell commands on it... OK.18:37
jmarsdenThen again, if you can't boot it, for sure you can't run VMs on it anyway :)18:37
racecar56i plan to use it for backup/web hosting18:38
smetjkpettit: any idea if you can have a kvm guest have direct access to a pci device?18:38
kpettit_ughh, route messed me up18:47
smetjkpettit: apparently with vt-d capabilities on the proc18:53
kpettit_sorry?  I think I missed the first part of that with my connection dying18:54
smetjoh I was wondering if it was possible with kvm to give guests direct access to pci devices18:55
smetjin kvm18:55
smetjapparently yes but you need vt-d on your proc18:55
kpettit_ah.  I have no idea.  Haven't tried it.  I know you can with devices like usb/serial, etc.  Not sure how that would work with PCI type devices18:56
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TimReichhartcan anybody help me configure nagios3?19:45
TimReichhartcan anybody help me configure nagios3?20:02
jmedinaTimReichhart: it is well documented in official howtos20:06
TimReichhartwhere show me because noting on nagios3 dont line up20:06
TimReichhartwith what is installed onto my server20:06
Deevzhey folks20:20
zoopsterTimReichhart: maybe this will help?  http://bit.ly/ujem20:24
zoopsterDeevz: if you are waiting for an ack...you might be waiting a while...just ask a question!20:25
DeevzHaha20:25
DeevzWell, I just downloaded ubuntu server, getting rdy to set up my very first web server20:25
DeevzI was going for FreeBSD at first, but I found out about ubuntu server and I decided it would be more friendly for a newb like me20:27
zoopsterGood choice Deevz20:27
Deevzie, I have no unix-like os experience at all20:27
DavieyDeevz: you should be fine :)20:27
Deevzglad you guys tell me that20:27
DeevzDo you think it is better than freebsd?20:28
RoAkSoAxany KVM expert around?20:28
zoopsterwith 183 ppl in the room, I'm sure there are a few, what's the question RoAkSoAx20:31
zoopsterDeevz: you are asking a biased crowd that question20:32
RoAkSoAxi wanna know how can i create snapshots or anything like it20:32
DeevzLol zoop, I am very aware of that20:32
DeevzIts tough to get unbiased opinions in that software world :)20:33
RoAkSoAxanyone know how to create snapshots in KVM, or anything like it?20:33
jmedinaRoAkSoAx: I think there is no way in KVM, I usually do snapshots of guest in Xen using LVM snapshots20:36
jmedinaof cours guests are installed in LVMs20:36
RoAkSoAxjmedina, well... it seems i'll have to just many backups20:37
RoAkSoAxs/many/make20:37
jmedinaoif course if you were using LVM with KVM, you culd use lvm snapshots, and in my oppinion it is the better way in performance20:38
DeevzAre most servers 64-bit or 32-bit?20:39
jmedinaAll my guests are LVM under RAID1, backups done with snapshots and backed up in an external servers20:39
RoAkSoAxjmedina, thanks for the advice... but suddenly i'm not using LVM20:39
stefan_canDeevz, depends how good you are at configuring and maintaining20:39
DeevzWhy does it matter?20:39
stefan_canDeevz, if you have more than 4gb of mem in your server than it will use  a 64 bit os20:40
DeevzOf course20:40
DeevzIts probably not required to run a small website and a database then20:41
jmedinaor you can use PAE withc sucks when you have 64bit hardware20:41
jmedinasorry for the bad word :S20:41
DeevzThe ubuntu server installation is much more friendly than the freebsd one :)20:53
uvirtbotNew bug: #342578 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysqldump doesn't pick up /etc/mysql/my.cnf" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34257821:56
stefan_canuvirtbot, you might want to check the mysql bugs page22:01
uvirtbotstefan_can: Error: "you" is not a valid command.22:01
stefan_canlol22:01
DeevzHmmm... I cant install ubuntu server in virtual box22:18
DeevzThe installer is stuck at "Detecting hardware"22:19
DeevzIs there any special trick to install it?22:19
DeevzNevermind, it was a problem VirtualBox just froze...22:27
DeevzWhy cant there be a graphical interface to ubuntu server? :(22:59
jpdsDeevz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI#Arguments%20Against%20a%20GUI are some points.23:10
DeevzIs it easy to uninstall the desktop-environment once I am ready to get rid of it?23:12
DeevzI just moved to linux, I like my GUI, but apparently at some point it will be best to get rid of it23:13
geniiDeevz: The graphical interface(s) to ubuntu server are usually in it's web based control panels you install for whatever specific things you run on it, etc23:15
DeevzI see23:15
DeevzWhich control panel package do you suggest?23:16
geniiDeevz: The default one which is recommended now is ebox (used to be webmin was default but is now not included or supported in ubuntu)23:16
Deevzok, thx23:17
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bosco_i need to know if there is a better vps or deticated server other than linode.com that offers ubuntu ????23:32
bosco_budget is 40 per month23:32
bosco_i know i wont find a deticated for that price23:32

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