[00:17] <moz> does no one know anything about this? sorry i've posted this question but im new and totally stuck
[01:23] <moz_> my laptop is making a really loud continious bleep sound, after a couple of minutes of loading, is this over heating? only have heard it since i installed ubuntu server
[01:24] <moz_> earlier today
[01:24] <moz_> and it wont stop till i shut it down
[01:27] <Stargazer> I'm installing Ubuntu server and it's asking what the server will be for. I'm only going to use it to script some programs and compile them, what do i set the server as ?
[01:30] <moz_> i dont have permissions for anything
[01:30] <moz_> i cant even create a new file, says "cannot open swap file for <file> recovery impossible"
[01:30] <hads> Stargazer: Just select nothing
[01:32] <moz_> whats happened to my installation, i dont have permissions for any file
[01:32] <moz_> even with sudo
[02:02] <moz_> ok i think i've managed to fix that
[02:03] <moz_> im in kernel 2.6.27-11-server which i have installed
[02:03] <moz_> which is meant to automatically provide support for wireless cards that use the RTL8781 drivers
[02:04] <moz_> *RTL8187 i mean
[02:05] <moz_> i've added the line 'rtl8187' to /etc/modules, and after restarting, when plugging in my usb wireless stick, i get a short high piitched noise instead of nothing as before, but im still not seeing it, i guess it should appear in 'ifconfig' as wlan0 but it doesnt, any idea why this is?
[02:05] <moz_> the light on the wireless stick is not on
[02:12] <moz_> please can someone assist me on this, really quite stuck, need to get my internet back working on my laptop
[02:15] <moz_> im using the F5D7050 USB dongle i found this blog to help : http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=30
[02:28] <twb> moz_: is this related to ubuntu *servers*?
[02:28] <moz_> twb: yes because i got it working on ubuntu previously
[02:29] <Stargazer> Is there a command available to check on battery level ?
[02:29] <Stargazer> -on +the*
[02:29] <twb> Stargazer: the raw data is in /sys/class/power_supply/
[02:29] <twb> Stargazer: e.g. sh -c 'cd /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 && echo \ $((100 * `cat charge_now` / `cat charge_full`))%'
[02:30] <Stargazer> You remembered that, no, you _KNEW_ all that ?
[02:31] <twb> Stargazer: all what?
[02:31] <Stargazer> All that command.
[02:32] <Stargazer> There an easier way to check ? like battery -%
[02:32] <Stargazer> 'battery -%' *
[02:32] <twb> Stargazer: well, just write that line into a file
[02:32] <twb> Stargazer: but I imagine there are packages to do it for you
[02:33] <Stargazer> Oh, about that.
[02:33] <twb> Note that my line above assumes you only have one battery.
[02:33] <Stargazer> Ubuntu Server didn't connect to my router when i was installing.
[02:33] <p_quarles> Stargazer: acpi -t will give you battery info on many systems
[02:33] <twb> p_quarles: thanks, that'd be one of those packages that I forgot the names of :-)
[02:36] <Stargazer> ... how do i connect ubuntu server to my router ?
[02:37] <p_quarles> Stargazer: with an ethernet cable? if it doesn't get an ip address automatically, you'll need to  start looking for error messages
[02:37] <Stargazer> Where should i look for the errors, on startup ?
[02:38] <p_quarles> run 'sudo dhclient'
[02:39] <Stargazer> 'egrep: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory;'
[02:41] <Stargazer> For the most part that's all. ^
[02:41] <p_quarles> interesting; what's the result of ls -l /etc/resolv.conf ?
[02:42] <Stargazer> -rw-r--r-- root root 46 2009-03-17 21:39 /etc.resolv.conf
[02:43] <p_quarles> well then it's lying
[02:44] <Stargazer> Bug, maybe ? (8.10)
[02:44] <twb> I blame NetworkManager
[02:44] <twb> In my experience, it is the root cause of all network problems.
[02:44] <twb> *ALL* of them!
[02:44]  * twb smashes through a wall
[02:45] <p_quarles> Stargazer: what it's telling you doesn't make sense; I've got no clue; best bet here is to idle until someone who does answers
[02:45] <p_quarles> twb: +1
[02:45]  * Stargazer will soon begin to rot.
[02:46] <twb> Issues like "I installed a NIS client as normal on my new Ubuntu desktop and now my machine takes half an hour to boot."
[02:46] <twb> Yes, that's right, kids, NetworkManager was trying to use NIS to find out who owned itself!
[02:48] <Stargazer> Mind***~
[02:50] <Stargazer> So, um, i use 'sudo su' and do 'dhclient' and that file(/etc/resolv.conf) now exists in it's all power sight.
[02:52] <p_quarles> "sudo su" is something that works but isn't right; please use sudo -i
[02:53] <p_quarles> because at least people QA that
[02:53] <Stargazer> What does 'QA' mean ?
[02:55] <p_quarles> quality assurance
[02:55] <Stargazer> Ah.
[02:55] <p_quarles> as far as I know, chaining sudo and su isn't supported by anyone
[02:55] <hads> sudo -s would be the equivilent
[02:55] <p_quarles> and sudo has its own options for opening shells
[02:55] <p_quarles> hads: that too
[02:56] <hads> sudo -i would be sudo su -
[02:56] <hads> (just to be pedantic) :)
[02:56] <moz_> how do i check if my wireless usb stick is installed?
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> if a usb port is full, its probably 'installed' :
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[02:56] <p_quarles> hads: yes, you're absolutely right; I just prefer sudo -i / su - :)
[02:58] <moz_> Kamping_Kaiser: what do you mean ?
[02:58] <twb> sudo su is wrong; it should be 'sudo su -'
[02:58] <p_quarles> moz_: iwconfig
[02:59] <Stargazer> Either way, '/etc/resolv.conf' now exists. so, um, no "errors" as far as i can tell.
[02:59] <hads> twb: We just had this discussion :)
[02:59] <p_quarles> twb: the first preserves the user environment; the second (better imo) switches to root's environment
[02:59] <moz_> oh i've got a wlan0, i guess that means installed
[02:59] <twb> Right.
[02:59] <twb> Otherwise root shits all over your e.g. .aptitude/config
[03:00] <hads> See above, sudo -(i|s)
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> twb, more important - it mods your .vimrc! :O
[03:00] <twb> Kamping_Kaiser: I wouldn't know about that.
[03:00] <twb> I use vi.
[03:01] <Stargazer> Ubuntu has evolved to the point where it adapts to it's pleasing.
[03:01] <twb> vim is for little girls who never learnt ed
[03:01]  * Kamping_Kaiser shuns twb 
[03:01] <hads> Is sudo su for people that didn't learn sudo?
[03:01] <twb> hads: chiark-really is that :PO
[03:02] <JanC> twb: so why don't you use ed instead of vi then  :P
[03:02] <hads> heh
[03:02] <p_quarles> hads: insofar as using both at the same time is redundant, yes
[03:03] <genii> Gah. editor warz
[03:03] <twb> JanC: actually I mostly use cat and sed --in-place.
[03:03] <Stargazer> New topic/question: how do i enable the rest of the repos ?
[03:03] <twb> Stargazer: carefully
[03:03] <hads> Stargazer: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:07] <moz_> how do u actually try connecting to a wireless network with a terminal
[03:07] <moz_> only ever done it with network manager
[03:15] <storrgie> i am running a verlihub server on ubuntu, how can I add it to my hosts.allow
[03:16] <moz_> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "tp1"
[03:16] <moz_> i tried this
[03:16] <moz_> but it just returned straight away there was no wireless activity noise
[03:16] <moz_> what am i doing wrong?
[03:23] <moz_> ok i got it, sort of
[03:23] <moz_> i set the essid and then the key
[03:24] <moz_> then connected using sudo dhclient wlan0
[03:24] <moz_> but i got some messages saying egrep /etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory
[03:24] <TimReichhart> could anybody help me with a issue with nagios3
[03:25] <moz_> chown: failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf' : no such file or directory
[03:25] <moz_> chmod: failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf' : no such file or directory
[03:25] <infinity> moz_: You really wanted to be setting this up in /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces) and using ifup/ifdown to manage the interface.
[03:25] <infinity> moz_: dhclient run raw will not often behave quite as you expect.
[03:26] <moz_> i can ping my router
[03:26] <moz_> but not any internet address
[03:26] <moz_> so thats something
[03:26] <infinity> moz_: Define "internet address".
[03:26] <moz_> ping google.com
[03:26] <moz_> was unknown host
[03:26] <infinity> moz_: If you mean hostnames, rather than IP addresses, that would be because you have no resolv.conf. :P
[03:27] <moz_> infinity: why is that? what does the file do
[03:27] <TimReichhart> does anybody know nagios3?
[03:27] <infinity> moz_: dhclient needs to write your nameserver addresses to resolv.conf.
[03:27] <infinity> moz_: No nameservers, no DNS resolution, no google.com
[03:27] <moz_> but it cant access that file, do I need to create it? im not sure how to fix it
[03:28] <infinity> moz_: Like I said, you would have been much better off doing this with higher level interfaces (ifupdown) rather than manually. :/
[03:29] <infinity> moz_: But, at a guess, "sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf && sudo dhclient wlan0" would fix it up.  Ish.
[03:29]  * infinity goes to find some dinner or something.
[03:29] <moz_> infinity: i will try thanks
[03:29] <TimReichhart> ok i guess no help then
[03:31] <TimReichhart> anybody know how to reconfigure a package inside of ubuntu 8.10 server?
[03:33] <infinity> TimReichhart: dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[03:34] <TimReichhart> thanks infinity
[03:40] <moz_> a question, im trying to update my installation, but its tell me i need to install the kernel linux-image-2.6.27-7-server when i just installed linux-image-2.6.27-11-server as this is the first kernel with a driver that works with my USB stick, should I allow the update?
[03:41] <moz_> i thought 2.6.27-11-server was stable now
[03:55] <oh_noes> why isnt ubuntu server spitting out anything on /dev/random?
[03:55] <oh_noes> Im trying to generate a gpg but its not generating it, it wants random but cat /etc/random isnt giving me anything
[04:25] <oh_noes> is there an AMD64 version of Ubuntu JeOS hardy 8.04?
[04:28] <giovani3> oh_noes: not afaik, it says right on the JeOS page, x86
[04:28] <giovani3> and I don't know why /dev/random isn't working for you -- it should
[04:30] <oh_noes> it's working .. it's just not outputting a lot of info.  So random apps, take a long time to get a bugger
[04:30] <oh_noes> buffer*
[04:31] <giovani3> right, try /dev/urandom instead
[04:31] <giovani3> less entropy
[04:34] <oh_noes> can't ... it's gpg reading /dev/random, not me.  Anywho, it finished it just took longer
[05:06] <mennis> Anyone here familiar with Coraid AoE based SANs?
[05:24] <yoophglup> hello, i need help with remote desktop connections is this a good place for help
[05:25] <yoophglup> i am using ubuntu and vinagre
[05:27] <hads> yoophglup: Try #ubuntu
[06:31] <sLaeYa> !paste
[06:33] <sLaeYa> hi I have just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 8.10 - which worked seemlessly and then ISPconfig
[06:34] <sLaeYa> I am now having problems when the server starts with bind9 and pop3 failing - Error log for bind http://paste.ubuntu.com/132863/
[06:34] <sLaeYa> help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
[07:04] <sLaeYa> hey is anyone in here who can help with bind9 please
[09:02] <kraut> moin
[10:23] <dman> hey guys, for some reason when i hotplug my sata drive it keeps getting an incremented /dev/sd* entry
[10:23] <dman> any idea why?
[10:55] <lex> hola
[12:23] <sLaeYa> evening all
[12:23] <sLaeYa> !paste
[12:25] <sLaeYa> I'm currently having issues with authing on my mailserver - via webmail and also external mail clients ie. outlook, here is a snippet from the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/133003/
[12:35] <soren> sLaeYa: Yes?
[12:35] <soren> sLaeYa: Have you cecked your MYSQL_{SERVER,SOCKET} settings?
[12:40] <heath|work> hello... what is the command to refresh /dev/disk/by-uuid ?
[12:41] <[1]sLaeYa> hi soren, sorry my internet is playing up
[12:41] <[1]sLaeYa> I haven't checked the MYSQL_{SERVER,SOCKET} settings as I am not sure how to do this
[12:42] <soren> [1]sLaeYa: It says how right there in your error message?
[12:42] <[1]sLaeYa> oh, i thought you were referring to mysql config
[12:44] <[1]sLaeYa> i have absolutely nothing in /etc/courier/authmysqlrc does this mean I have setup my mysql wrong ?
[12:46] <[1]sLaeYa> however I have a file authmysqlrc~
[12:48] <soren> it's kind of hard to tell with the amount of information you've given.
[12:48] <soren> What have you done to teach courier to talk to your mysql server.
[12:48] <soren> =
[12:48] <soren> ?
[12:50] <[1]sLaeYa> I followed a readme to install an Ubuntu 8.10 server with ISPconfig
[12:50] <heath|work> Can you have 2 disks with the same label mounted?
[12:51] <heath|work> [1]sLaeYa, we run ISPconfig here on ubuntu... what issue are you having?
[12:51] <Ethos> hi guys, whats the easiest way to regenerate grub
[12:51] <Ethos> i've copied over a server to a new hdd and it won't boot
[12:51] <Ethos> I assume it's just grub that's messing up as it says "non-system disk"
[12:52] <[1]sLaeYa> I am unable to authenticate with webmail or using pop3 I am getting this error in the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/133003/
[12:53] <heath|work> are you able to log in to the admin side of ISPconfig?
[12:56] <sLaeYa> I also have the worst wireless internet connection at home, but thats another story
[12:56] <sLaeYa> ***the last thing I saw before I dropped was*** my post about pastebin
[12:57] <sLaeYa> I mean - my post with a pastebin link
[12:57] <heath|work> sLaeYa, can you connect via the admin portion of ISPconfig?
[12:57] <sLaeYa> yes
[12:58] <heath|work> everything is working in there then, user and sites are add
[12:59] <ScottK> Ethos: Did you create and copy over the /boot partition?
[13:00] <sLaeYa> everything is working, I can add users I have added a site
[13:00] <sLaeYa> and email accounts, and ftp users
[13:00] <sLaeYa> FTP works - email doesn't
[13:00] <Ethos> It was supposed to, but i've got a feeling it didn't
[13:00] <Ethos> I used "ping" and selected all 3 partitions
[13:00] <heath|work> in the services in the admin... is email running?
[13:01] <sLaeYa> yes - all services are running
[13:02] <sLaeYa> webserver, ftpserver, smtpserver, pop3server, bindserver and mysqlserver all show as running
[13:05] <heath|work> sLaeYa, try to telnet to 110 and make sure it is answering.  telnet server 110
[13:07] <sLaeYa> yes its working
[13:07] <sLaeYa> +Ok Hello there.
[13:09] <heath|work> The only other thing I can think of is you forgot to put a check by Mailuser login of the site
[13:09] <ivoks> ispconfig?
[13:09] <heath|work> yeah
[13:10] <heath|work> sLaeYa, is having issues logging in to get mail
[13:10] <heath|work> pop or web
[13:10] <sLaeYa> both
[13:10] <sLaeYa> i have ticked the mailuser box
[13:11] <heath|work> does anyone know the command to refresh /dev/disk after adding a new partition?
[13:13] <ball> Is software RAID tricky to set up on Ubuntu Server?
[13:13] <heath|work> ball, no
[13:13] <heath|work> I use mdadm
[13:14] <sLaeYa> im ready to format the silly thing, only ive done this 3 times and it hasnt helped
[13:14] <ball> heath|work: thanks
[13:14] <heath|work> np... there are plenty of good tutorials on the net
[13:15] <heath|work> sLaeYa, I believe everything is setup right.
[13:15] <sLaeYa> I thought it was but I'm still getting the authentication error
[13:15] <heath|work> how are you trying to log into webmail... using user@domain.com ?
[13:15] <sLaeYa> Mar 18 20:49:56 server1 authdaemond: authmysql: MYSQL_SERVER nor MYSQL_SOCKET set in/etc/courier/authmysqlrc.
[13:16] <sLaeYa> I have tried user@domain.com web1_user web1_user@domain.com
[13:16] <Ethos> sounds like you simply haven't set it up right
[13:16] <Ethos> have you tried following the guides?
[13:17] <heath|work> sLaeYa, http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=172319
[13:17] <soren> heath|work: udevadm trigger
[13:18] <heath|work> soren, nice... that will not change anything in use?
[13:19] <bromic94> hey how do i know if apache is starting as root
[13:20] <soren> heath|work: It probably will.
[13:20] <soren> heath|work: Proceed with caution :)
[13:20] <heath|work> hmmm.... I used a cmd once and of-course didn't write it down that worked perfect, but I can't find it
[13:21] <soren> heath|work: Could have been udevadm trigger (or just udevtrigger, depending on the age of the system).
[13:22] <heath|work> soren, thanks... I will read through the man pages to see how bad off I cam... I have a production server that I created a new part for, but need to get the UUID in /dev/disk
[13:22] <sLaeYa> heath that confused me more than anything :(
[13:23] <heath|work> lol... sorry, it just looked like your issue
[13:23] <soren> heath|work: Oh, you could just try "partprobe /dev/sd?"
[13:23] <heath|work> soren, THAT's IT
[13:23] <heath|work> damn... I have been torturing myself all morning!!
[13:23] <heath|work> thanks
[13:23] <sLaeYa> it looked similar but it was written by someone who didn't have a good grasp of english, english isn't my first language so I don't understand it properly
[13:24] <soren> heath|work: I thought you had just changed the contents of existing partitions. In that case, you /do/ need to udevadm trigger to pick up the new uuid.
[13:24] <soren> heath|work: From Jaunty and onwards, though, you wouldn't need to do anything. Both things would automatically be dealt with by udev.
[13:24] <heath|work> I even typed part... lol
[13:24] <bromic94> what are the big changes in 9.04 server?
[13:25] <heath|work> soren, cool, this server is going to be here till 2013 though
[13:25] <heath|work> LTS
[13:25] <soren> heath|work: "both things" being "adding a partition and putting a filesystem on it" and "re-mkfs'ing an existing partition and have the new uuid symlink pop up"
[13:25] <ball> I'm debating whether to try Ubuntu Server on this machine
[13:26] <soren> bromic94: I don't have a list handy, I'm afraid. I think there's something on the wiki, but I'm not sure. I know the few things, I've been working on myself, and some of the stuff others have been working on, but I don't have an exhaustive list.
[13:26] <bromic94> soren: what have you been working on
[13:26] <bromic94> i just meant what you guys are aware of
[13:27] <soren> bromic94: I've been working on lots of virtualisation and cloud computing stuff.
[13:27] <bromic94> nice
[13:27] <soren> bromic94: And probably some other stuff I've forgotten about.
[13:27] <soren> I keep myself busy :)
[13:27] <bromic94> when i set up phpmyadmin i get invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache-ssl not found
[13:28] <bromic94> it can not find the directory apache-ssl bc its not there
[13:28] <bromic94> but i followed these instructions to setup ssl http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html
[13:29] <bromic94> i want it to be only apache-ssl and not apache2-ssl and apache2
[13:30] <soren> bromic94: You really don't :)
[13:30] <soren> bromic94: apache-ssl is *ancient*
[13:30] <bromic94> oh ok
[13:30] <bromic94> i want to go this: https://serverdomain.com/phpmadmin goes to phpmyadmin only not http
[13:30] <soren> I think the Roman Empire's web page was hosted on it. Seriously, tt's not what you want.
[13:30] <Ethos> lol
[13:30] <AnRkey> how can i stop the debian-installer from checking security.ubuntu.com repo during preseeded installs?
[13:30] <bromic94> ok
[13:31] <bromic94> i want a secure connection to phpmyadmin through https and not http
[13:32] <soren> AnRkey: Put "d-i apt-setup/security_host string" in your preseed.
[13:32] <soren> bromic94: Set up phpmyadmin as you normally would and move the "Alias /phpmyadmin" definition into your SSL VirtualHost.
[13:33] <bromic94> oh ok...so in the VH for http take out the alias
[13:33] <bromic94> the alias for https is alraedy in there i just nwat to remove the one for htpt
[13:33] <sLaeYa> how would I do a clean install of the sasl ?
[13:34] <AnRkey> soren, thanks trying it now
[13:34] <bromic94> that alias would be in the file /etc/apache2/sites-avaiable/default?
[13:38] <AnRkey> soren, thanks that fixed my problem
[13:39] <soren> AnRkey: cool
[13:39] <AnRkey> shweet, it's flying past that part now, much faster
[13:39] <AnRkey> w000t
[13:39] <bromic94> anyone?
[13:39] <bromic94> i think it is under there but did not find it
[13:40] <orudie> ivoks, hi
[13:43] <bromic94> when you install phpmyadnmin it goes for https and http i wnat to remove access via http how can i do that
[13:43] <bromic94> i know i haev to go and remove the alias but where is the alias listed
[13:52] <AnRkey> bromic94, i know a little about apache configs (very little) taking a look at mine for u quick
[13:52] <AnRkey> brb
[13:53] <AnRkey> bromic94, have you setup https for apache yet?
[13:54] <AnRkey> if you want to force https you can do it with a .htaccess file and leave http on
[13:55] <AnRkey> that way if someone uses http it auto switches to https
[13:55] <AnRkey> bromic94, http://plesk.hostza.co.za
[13:55] <AnRkey> example of it working there
[13:58] <genii> Hm. Another reason not to use mysql
[14:11] <bromic94_> who sent me the stuff for gruffi.hostza.co.za?
[14:11] <bromic94_> and yes i have https set up for apache
[14:11] <bromic94_> already
[14:16] <moz_> is there a quick guide to setting up phpmyadmin on ubuntu server?
[14:18] <Ethos> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[14:19] <Ethos> To set up under Apache all you need to do is include the following line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.
[14:19] <Ethos> Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[14:19] <bromic94_> Ethos: want to set it up only for https
[14:19] <bromic94_> not http
[14:20] <Ethos> No idea
[14:20] <Ethos> I just read "[14:16] < moz_> is there a quick guide to setting up phpmyadmin on ubuntu server?
[14:20] <Ethos> "
[14:20] <Ethos> Which says nothing about https :D
[14:20] <moz_> http
[14:20] <moz_> thanks
[14:21] <bromic94_> Ethos: oh ok
[14:21] <bromic94_> sorry
[14:21] <Ethos> :)
[14:23] <moz_> will give it a whirl
[14:23] <bromic94> finally lol
[14:25] <bromic94> whats a good web admin gui for server
[14:25] <bromic94> like webmin, cpanel, etc
[14:26] <henkjan> bromic94: openpanel
[14:26] <henkjan> bromic94: depends on your needs
[14:27] <bromic94> the sources.list is where again?
[14:28] <henkjan> /etc/apt
[14:28] <bromic94> ok thanks
[14:28] <bromic94> memory lapse lol
[14:30] <bromic94> henkjan: going to try it out
[14:30] <bromic94> is that the only open source one?
[14:33] <genii> bromic94: There is ispconfig and ebox
[14:33] <bromic94> i hate ebox
[14:33] <bromic94> i have not dealt with ispconfig
[14:34] <bromic94> could you send me a screen shot of openpanel id ont see where uc an see ss on their site
[14:34] <genii> bromic94: ispconfig is good but as far as I know no deb package right now, so manual install
[14:34] <dexem> bromic94, why you don't like ebox?
[14:34] <bromic94> i just done
[14:34] <bromic94> *dont
[14:34] <bromic94> for what i need to use it for like stuff that is precompiled
[14:34] <bromic94> ebox u have to add stuff
[14:36] <henkjan> bromic94: http://documentation.openpanel.com/index.php/End_users
[14:36] <orudie> i need help please i followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html now no mail is going in or out
[14:36] <bromic94> dexem: u use ebox?
[14:37] <bromic94> henkjan and dexem and genii ebox the people would need to use it dont have time to manually install it even though it is not that hard
[14:37] <orudie> please someone help
[14:38] <giovani3> orudie: did you do the "testing" section with telnet?
[14:38] <dexem> bromic94, well, somehow yes...
[14:38] <dexem> bromic94, what things do you usually need to add manually?
[14:38] <orudie> giovani3, yes i have
[14:38] <orudie> i just want to undo it
[14:38] <giovani3> orudie: and what happened?
[14:38] <giovani3> then undo it ... all the steps you did are right there
[14:38] <jurism> Hi! Can You help me with file permissions? I have virtualmin (webmin) I have 2 partitions one /root, other /home (where all WEB content are located). I replaces system disk (/root) and now I have permission problems. Can You give me pelase some suggestions? Thank You!
[14:38] <orudie> giovani3, i have, but nothing is going in or out
[14:38] <orudie> giovani3, i am trying to undo it for now
[14:38] <giovani3> then you didn't undo all of your steps :)
[14:39] <orudie> well by stopping daemos
[14:39] <orudie> can you please help me with this
[14:39] <orudie> sudo postconf -e 'content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024'
[14:39] <orudie> that right there i dont know how to undo
[14:40] <orudie> giovani3, dude please
[14:41] <giovani3> orudie: you have to calm down ... this is free support, I'm working
[14:42] <orudie> giovani3, ok... not sure how to undo this line sudo postconf -e 'content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024'
[14:42] <giovani3> orudie: it's in your /etc/postfix/main.cf
[14:42] <giovani3> I believe
[14:46] <orudie> ok i removed that line now able to receive messages, but not send out
[14:46] <giovani3> once again ... you simply have to undo what you've done -- I have no clue what you've done
[14:55] <orudie> ok i have undone everything and it seem to work like before
[14:55] <orudie> i'll work on this at night to make sure there is no email downtime
[15:24] <moz_> i cant see to upload a file on my ftp client, to my ftp server that is running ubuntu server
[15:25] <moz_> i have enabled write access in the config files, and my 'www' directly is set to 777 chmod
[15:25] <moz_> im using vsftpd
[15:25] <moz_> and smart ftp from a windows machine as client
[15:25] <moz_> are there any common mistakes i may have made
[15:26] <moz_> oh it seems to have made it in now... little bit confusing
[15:36] <orudie> is there a way to move files from one box to another using terminal ?
[15:37] <billyk> orudie: rsync is probably easiest
[15:38] <billyk> you could also use netcat and scp
[15:38] <orudie> oh scp i remember using that a while ago
[15:39] <billyk> orudie: if you need to copy to a windows box, smb might be easiest though since windows supports that natively
[15:39] <billyk> but rsync is my fav <3
[15:39] <orudie> nope not windows
[15:39] <orudie> from ubuntu server to centos
[15:44] <genii> You can install rsync on windows boxes with for instance cygwin
[15:45] <billyk> genii: didnt know that.  cool :-)
[15:45] <genii> billyk: np
[15:45] <maswan> You can also install ubuntu on windows boxes with for instance the ubuntu-server cd ;)
[15:45] <genii> maswan: Hehe :)
[15:46] <billyk> haah i know that
[15:51] <genii> billyk: MS also has some utilities called Services For Unix which includs stuff like nfs which can also be used for backups
[15:52] <billyk> meh, I'm happy with rsync for backups
[15:53] <billyk> oh, one question I had, I've always wondered which was fastest for copying data (least overhead)
[15:53] <billyk> ftp, scp, smb, rsync, nfs
[15:55] <genii> differential rsync for me
[15:56] <{bosco}> anyone know of a good site (how to ) to make it so users on my server can only view there own home dir and nothing else so they cant {cd} outsite of it???
[15:56] <heath|work> when is the release date for 9.04?
[15:59] <heath|work> {bosco}, there was a put my users in jail thread on the forums...
[15:59] <heath|work> here it is... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696103
[16:01] <{bosco}> thanks i will take a look
[16:01] <heath|work> {bosco}, are they local users or remote?
[16:08] <{bosco}> i only allow sftp and ssh access or will once the switch is done
[16:09] <{bosco}> heathjwork
[16:09] <{bosco}> heath|work:
[16:10] <{bosco}> you there
[16:10] <heath|work> {bosco}, can't you just change the other perm to 0 for all folders you don't want them to get inito
[16:10] <{bosco}> idk lol
[16:11] <{bosco}> i just want them not to be able to view anything else but there home dir how hard can that be lol
[16:13] <{bosco}> heath|work:
[16:14] <{bosco}> you there
[16:16] <heath|work> it's not hard something like find / -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec chmod o-rwx '{}' \;
[16:16] <heath|work> you can't cd on a dir that is not exec
[16:16] <heath|work> test that first^^ I just shat it out
[16:26] <jmarsden> heath|work: If your system is a web server that will break it, and so on and so forth... :)  I think the more interesting issue is exactly *why* {bosco}  feels that for users to be able to look at the contents of (say) /bin or /usr/bin is a problem and something he needs to prevent...??  What is in there that is so secret??  if there are a few directories on his machine that for some reason *are* secret but publica
[16:26] <jmarsden> lly readable, then it makes sense to just protect those...
[16:29] <heath|work> I agree
[16:35] <mennis> Anyone here familiar with SAN gear from Coraid?
[16:49] <orudie> i'm using a vps account to deploy ubuntu 8.10 server
[16:50] <orudie> and it installs only the "basic core" , how would i get it to the standard ubuntu server , lets say if i would have installed it from a cd
[17:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: likewise-open questions?
 mathiaz: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/likewise-open/+bug/323601
 Launchpad bug 323601 in likewise-open "[FFe] Upgrade to likewise-open 5 for Jaunty" [Wishlist,Fix committed]
 mathiaz: looks to me that likewise-open5 is a completely new package
 mathiaz: that's going to need to co-reside with likewise-open
 mathiaz: which is 4.1
[17:45] <mathiaz> kirkland: correct
[17:45] <kirkland> mathiaz: and this new package is destined for universe, for jaunty, right?
[17:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: yes
[17:46] <kirkland> mathiaz: coolio, that's all i had ;-)
[17:46] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks.
[17:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: np :)
[17:48] <kpettit> I'm trying to use the GUI network-manager for VPN.  It works great, but if I try to add anything custom through the GUI like routes, etc it looses those changes once I leave the dialog box.  Any ideas what I can do to keep the custom information I put in?
[17:49] <kpettit> it's using network-manager with the pptp module
[18:22] <smetj> hello, I was a bit surprised with the lack of official support for xen in ubuntu server and choosing kvm instead.  I was wondering if kvm is actually already production ready, and why xen is denied in such a way?
[18:25] <kpettit>  Ah I think I figured it out.  Have to hand edit  a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d
[18:25] <kpettit> Anybody know how I can findoud the default route from the commandline?  I need to grab the default route in the script I'm going to write.  I want to avoid having to parse through the route -n info
[18:25] <kpettit> smetj: I feel your pain.
[18:26] <kpettit> I love xen, but for some reason it's a pain in the ass to setup and use.  I've had problems with xen on every distro I've tried.  kvm was ok, but i think it's still slow
[18:26] <kpettit> My favorite vm solution so far is the free vmware-server 2.x
[18:27] <kpettit> Gives you a web interface that you can add/edit/view vm's.  Just need to have firefox or ie
[18:27] <racecar56> ie = fail
[18:27] <kpettit> IE is my favorite thing in the world, but it's nice for my users.
[18:27] <stefan_can> kpettit, but is xen faster than vmware ?
[18:28] <kpettit> It's supposed to be, but I'd have to have it running first to find out
[18:28] <racecar56> well, if anyone here had experience in helping me from before about my hp mediasmart ex475... i have news
[18:28] <stefan_can> that is if you tried it , as I didn't have the  chance yet
[18:28] <racecar56> im vmware-ing a vm of it now, and i can be able to see what to do now...
[18:29] <kpettit> xen requires the newer processors with the VM extensions to work at all.  And I know if you have a linux xen server running linux it's faster than just about anything besides uml (user mode linux)
[18:29] <kpettit> racecar56: Make sure first of all that you have one of the newer processors that can run xen
[18:30] <racecar56> well... is amd live good enough?
[18:30] <racecar56> thats what its got
[18:30] <racecar56> with 512 mb ram
[18:30] <jmarsden> kpettit: For the default route, you can either parse route -n output or parse /proc/net/route :)  But, since it *is* the default, does your script truly need it?
[18:30] <racecar56> (heehee)
[18:30] <kpettit> I think the process extension is vt or vtx
[18:31] <kpettit> jmarsden: yes.  Becuase I need to have a proper if-down type of script.   So I want to have that info at the ready
[18:31] <kpettit> racecar56: I don't think so.  If the processor is older than about 1-2 years probally not
[18:32] <racecar56> ok... i was planning to use it as a web server anyway
[18:32] <kpettit> racecar56: check this out http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors
[18:33] <kpettit> racecar56: you can still use vmware or VirtualBox.  VirtualBox I beleive is opensource, or was anyways.  Been awhile sense I've tried it
[18:33] <racecar56> there is opensource and freeware versions of vbox... and my desktop pc (alongside my old laptop) can run that...
[18:33] <kpettit> FYI don't use VMware or the like to run a gateway, or voip vm.  It's caused me alot of headache trying, there are some minute timing issues
[18:34] <jmarsden> racecar56: Run    egrep '(vmx|svm)' --color=always /proc/cpuinfo     to check for the relevant CPU flags See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[18:34] <kpettit> jmarsden: nice.  I'm going to have to note that one
[18:35] <racecar56> well i cant do that now its running in a vmware vm
[18:36] <racecar56> which would mean it would say stuff about vmware's/my host pc's processor (intel core 2 quad 8D )
[18:36] <jmarsden> racecar56: No, do that in a shell on running on the "real" OS, not one inside a VM :)
[18:36] <racecar56> where 8D = :D with sunglasses
[18:36] <racecar56> i cant see whats on my server o.o
[18:36] <racecar56> i dont have a monitor port
[18:36] <kpettit> racecar56: it's the real os (host) that needs to have the proper processor extensions
[18:36] <kpettit> you can ssh to it
[18:36] <racecar56> so i ssh it instead... but i yet have to find out will it work
[18:36] <jmarsden> You can't ssh into the real OS on your server???
[18:37] <racecar56> it dosent have internet/dosent even boot
[18:37] <jmarsden> Ah... if you can't boot it, you can't run shell commands on it... OK.
[18:37] <jmarsden> Then again, if you can't boot it, for sure you can't run VMs on it anyway :)
[18:38] <racecar56> i plan to use it for backup/web hosting
[18:38] <smetj> kpettit: any idea if you can have a kvm guest have direct access to a pci device?
[18:47] <kpettit_> ughh, route messed me up
[18:53] <smetj> kpettit: apparently with vt-d capabilities on the proc
[18:54] <kpettit_> sorry?  I think I missed the first part of that with my connection dying
[18:55] <smetj> oh I was wondering if it was possible with kvm to give guests direct access to pci devices
[18:55] <smetj> in kvm
[18:55] <smetj> apparently yes but you need vt-d on your proc
[18:56] <kpettit_> ah.  I have no idea.  Haven't tried it.  I know you can with devices like usb/serial, etc.  Not sure how that would work with PCI type devices
[19:45] <TimReichhart> can anybody help me configure nagios3?
[20:02] <TimReichhart> can anybody help me configure nagios3?
[20:06] <jmedina> TimReichhart: it is well documented in official howtos
[20:06] <TimReichhart> where show me because noting on nagios3 dont line up
[20:06] <TimReichhart> with what is installed onto my server
[20:20] <Deevz> hey folks
[20:24] <zoopster> TimReichhart: maybe this will help?  http://bit.ly/ujem
[20:25] <zoopster> Deevz: if you are waiting for an ack...you might be waiting a while...just ask a question!
[20:25] <Deevz> Haha
[20:25] <Deevz> Well, I just downloaded ubuntu server, getting rdy to set up my very first web server
[20:27] <Deevz> I was going for FreeBSD at first, but I found out about ubuntu server and I decided it would be more friendly for a newb like me
[20:27] <zoopster> Good choice Deevz
[20:27] <Deevz> ie, I have no unix-like os experience at all
[20:27] <Daviey> Deevz: you should be fine :)
[20:27] <Deevz> glad you guys tell me that
[20:28] <Deevz> Do you think it is better than freebsd?
[20:28] <RoAkSoAx> any KVM expert around?
[20:31] <zoopster> with 183 ppl in the room, I'm sure there are a few, what's the question RoAkSoAx
[20:32] <zoopster> Deevz: you are asking a biased crowd that question
[20:32] <RoAkSoAx> i wanna know how can i create snapshots or anything like it
[20:32] <Deevz> Lol zoop, I am very aware of that
[20:33] <Deevz> Its tough to get unbiased opinions in that software world :)
[20:33] <RoAkSoAx> anyone know how to create snapshots in KVM, or anything like it?
[20:36] <jmedina> RoAkSoAx: I think there is no way in KVM, I usually do snapshots of guest in Xen using LVM snapshots
[20:36] <jmedina> of cours guests are installed in LVMs
[20:37] <RoAkSoAx> jmedina, well... it seems i'll have to just many backups
[20:37] <RoAkSoAx> s/many/make
[20:38] <jmedina> oif course if you were using LVM with KVM, you culd use lvm snapshots, and in my oppinion it is the better way in performance
[20:39] <Deevz> Are most servers 64-bit or 32-bit?
[20:39] <jmedina> All my guests are LVM under RAID1, backups done with snapshots and backed up in an external servers
[20:39] <RoAkSoAx> jmedina, thanks for the advice... but suddenly i'm not using LVM
[20:39] <stefan_can> Deevz, depends how good you are at configuring and maintaining
[20:39] <Deevz> Why does it matter?
[20:40] <stefan_can> Deevz, if you have more than 4gb of mem in your server than it will use  a 64 bit os
[20:40] <Deevz> Of course
[20:41] <Deevz> Its probably not required to run a small website and a database then
[20:41] <jmedina> or you can use PAE withc sucks when you have 64bit hardware
[20:41] <jmedina> sorry for the bad word :S
[20:53] <Deevz> The ubuntu server installation is much more friendly than the freebsd one :)
[22:01] <stefan_can> uvirtbot, you might want to check the mysql bugs page
[22:01] <stefan_can> lol
[22:18] <Deevz> Hmmm... I cant install ubuntu server in virtual box
[22:19] <Deevz> The installer is stuck at "Detecting hardware"
[22:19] <Deevz> Is there any special trick to install it?
[22:27] <Deevz> Nevermind, it was a problem VirtualBox just froze...
[22:59] <Deevz> Why cant there be a graphical interface to ubuntu server? :(
[23:10] <jpds> Deevz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI#Arguments%20Against%20a%20GUI are some points.
[23:12] <Deevz> Is it easy to uninstall the desktop-environment once I am ready to get rid of it?
[23:13] <Deevz> I just moved to linux, I like my GUI, but apparently at some point it will be best to get rid of it
[23:15] <genii> Deevz: The graphical interface(s) to ubuntu server are usually in it's web based control panels you install for whatever specific things you run on it, etc
[23:15] <Deevz> I see
[23:16] <Deevz> Which control panel package do you suggest?
[23:16] <genii> Deevz: The default one which is recommended now is ebox (used to be webmin was default but is now not included or supported in ubuntu)
[23:17] <Deevz> ok, thx
[23:32] <bosco_> i need to know if there is a better vps or deticated server other than linode.com that offers ubuntu ????
[23:32] <bosco_> budget is 40 per month
[23:32] <bosco_> i know i wont find a deticated for that price