[00:17] does no one know anything about this? sorry i've posted this question but im new and totally stuck [01:23] my laptop is making a really loud continious bleep sound, after a couple of minutes of loading, is this over heating? only have heard it since i installed ubuntu server [01:24] earlier today [01:24] and it wont stop till i shut it down [01:27] I'm installing Ubuntu server and it's asking what the server will be for. I'm only going to use it to script some programs and compile them, what do i set the server as ? [01:30] i dont have permissions for anything [01:30] i cant even create a new file, says "cannot open swap file for recovery impossible" [01:30] Stargazer: Just select nothing [01:32] whats happened to my installation, i dont have permissions for any file [01:32] even with sudo [02:02] ok i think i've managed to fix that [02:03] im in kernel 2.6.27-11-server which i have installed [02:03] which is meant to automatically provide support for wireless cards that use the RTL8781 drivers [02:04] *RTL8187 i mean [02:05] i've added the line 'rtl8187' to /etc/modules, and after restarting, when plugging in my usb wireless stick, i get a short high piitched noise instead of nothing as before, but im still not seeing it, i guess it should appear in 'ifconfig' as wlan0 but it doesnt, any idea why this is? [02:05] the light on the wireless stick is not on [02:12] please can someone assist me on this, really quite stuck, need to get my internet back working on my laptop [02:15] im using the F5D7050 USB dongle i found this blog to help : http://linuxsoftwareblog.com/blog/?p=30 [02:28] moz_: is this related to ubuntu *servers*? [02:28] twb: yes because i got it working on ubuntu previously [02:29] Is there a command available to check on battery level ? [02:29] -on +the* [02:29] Stargazer: the raw data is in /sys/class/power_supply/ [02:29] Stargazer: e.g. sh -c 'cd /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0 && echo \ $((100 * `cat charge_now` / `cat charge_full`))%' [02:30] You remembered that, no, you _KNEW_ all that ? [02:31] Stargazer: all what? [02:31] All that command. [02:32] There an easier way to check ? like battery -% [02:32] 'battery -%' * [02:32] Stargazer: well, just write that line into a file [02:32] Stargazer: but I imagine there are packages to do it for you [02:33] Oh, about that. [02:33] Note that my line above assumes you only have one battery. [02:33] Ubuntu Server didn't connect to my router when i was installing. [02:33] Stargazer: acpi -t will give you battery info on many systems [02:33] p_quarles: thanks, that'd be one of those packages that I forgot the names of :-) [02:36] ... how do i connect ubuntu server to my router ? [02:37] Stargazer: with an ethernet cable? if it doesn't get an ip address automatically, you'll need to start looking for error messages [02:37] Where should i look for the errors, on startup ? [02:38] run 'sudo dhclient' [02:39] 'egrep: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory;' [02:41] For the most part that's all. ^ [02:41] interesting; what's the result of ls -l /etc/resolv.conf ? [02:42] -rw-r--r-- root root 46 2009-03-17 21:39 /etc.resolv.conf [02:43] well then it's lying [02:44] Bug, maybe ? (8.10) [02:44] I blame NetworkManager [02:44] In my experience, it is the root cause of all network problems. [02:44] *ALL* of them! [02:44] * twb smashes through a wall [02:45] Stargazer: what it's telling you doesn't make sense; I've got no clue; best bet here is to idle until someone who does answers [02:45] twb: +1 [02:45] * Stargazer will soon begin to rot. [02:46] Issues like "I installed a NIS client as normal on my new Ubuntu desktop and now my machine takes half an hour to boot." [02:46] Yes, that's right, kids, NetworkManager was trying to use NIS to find out who owned itself! [02:48] Mind***~ [02:50] So, um, i use 'sudo su' and do 'dhclient' and that file(/etc/resolv.conf) now exists in it's all power sight. [02:52] "sudo su" is something that works but isn't right; please use sudo -i [02:53] because at least people QA that [02:53] What does 'QA' mean ? [02:55] quality assurance [02:55] Ah. [02:55] as far as I know, chaining sudo and su isn't supported by anyone [02:55] sudo -s would be the equivilent [02:55] and sudo has its own options for opening shells [02:55] hads: that too [02:56] sudo -i would be sudo su - [02:56] (just to be pedantic) :) [02:56] how do i check if my wireless usb stick is installed? [02:56] if a usb port is full, its probably 'installed' : [02:56] :P [02:56] hads: yes, you're absolutely right; I just prefer sudo -i / su - :) [02:58] Kamping_Kaiser: what do you mean ? [02:58] sudo su is wrong; it should be 'sudo su -' [02:58] moz_: iwconfig [02:59] Either way, '/etc/resolv.conf' now exists. so, um, no "errors" as far as i can tell. [02:59] twb: We just had this discussion :) [02:59] twb: the first preserves the user environment; the second (better imo) switches to root's environment [02:59] oh i've got a wlan0, i guess that means installed [02:59] Right. [02:59] Otherwise root shits all over your e.g. .aptitude/config [03:00] See above, sudo -(i|s) [03:00] twb, more important - it mods your .vimrc! :O [03:00] Kamping_Kaiser: I wouldn't know about that. [03:00] I use vi. [03:01] Ubuntu has evolved to the point where it adapts to it's pleasing. [03:01] vim is for little girls who never learnt ed [03:01] * Kamping_Kaiser shuns twb [03:01] Is sudo su for people that didn't learn sudo? [03:01] hads: chiark-really is that :PO [03:02] twb: so why don't you use ed instead of vi then :P [03:02] heh [03:02] hads: insofar as using both at the same time is redundant, yes [03:03] Gah. editor warz [03:03] JanC: actually I mostly use cat and sed --in-place. [03:03] New topic/question: how do i enable the rest of the repos ? [03:03] Stargazer: carefully [03:03] Stargazer: /etc/apt/sources.list [03:07] how do u actually try connecting to a wireless network with a terminal [03:07] only ever done it with network manager [03:15] i am running a verlihub server on ubuntu, how can I add it to my hosts.allow [03:16] sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "tp1" [03:16] i tried this [03:16] but it just returned straight away there was no wireless activity noise [03:16] what am i doing wrong? [03:23] ok i got it, sort of [03:23] i set the essid and then the key [03:24] then connected using sudo dhclient wlan0 [03:24] but i got some messages saying egrep /etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory [03:24] could anybody help me with a issue with nagios3 [03:25] chown: failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf' : no such file or directory [03:25] chmod: failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf' : no such file or directory [03:25] moz_: You really wanted to be setting this up in /etc/network/interfaces (man 5 interfaces) and using ifup/ifdown to manage the interface. [03:25] moz_: dhclient run raw will not often behave quite as you expect. [03:26] i can ping my router [03:26] but not any internet address [03:26] so thats something [03:26] moz_: Define "internet address". [03:26] ping google.com [03:26] was unknown host [03:26] moz_: If you mean hostnames, rather than IP addresses, that would be because you have no resolv.conf. :P [03:27] infinity: why is that? what does the file do [03:27] does anybody know nagios3? [03:27] moz_: dhclient needs to write your nameserver addresses to resolv.conf. [03:27] moz_: No nameservers, no DNS resolution, no google.com [03:27] but it cant access that file, do I need to create it? im not sure how to fix it [03:28] moz_: Like I said, you would have been much better off doing this with higher level interfaces (ifupdown) rather than manually. :/ [03:29] moz_: But, at a guess, "sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf && sudo dhclient wlan0" would fix it up. Ish. [03:29] * infinity goes to find some dinner or something. [03:29] infinity: i will try thanks [03:29] ok i guess no help then [03:31] anybody know how to reconfigure a package inside of ubuntu 8.10 server? [03:33] TimReichhart: dpkg-reconfigure [03:34] thanks infinity [03:40] a question, im trying to update my installation, but its tell me i need to install the kernel linux-image-2.6.27-7-server when i just installed linux-image-2.6.27-11-server as this is the first kernel with a driver that works with my USB stick, should I allow the update? [03:41] i thought 2.6.27-11-server was stable now [03:55] why isnt ubuntu server spitting out anything on /dev/random? [03:55] Im trying to generate a gpg but its not generating it, it wants random but cat /etc/random isnt giving me anything [04:25] is there an AMD64 version of Ubuntu JeOS hardy 8.04? [04:28] oh_noes: not afaik, it says right on the JeOS page, x86 [04:28] and I don't know why /dev/random isn't working for you -- it should [04:30] it's working .. it's just not outputting a lot of info. So random apps, take a long time to get a bugger [04:30] buffer* [04:31] right, try /dev/urandom instead [04:31] less entropy [04:34] can't ... it's gpg reading /dev/random, not me. Anywho, it finished it just took longer [05:06] Anyone here familiar with Coraid AoE based SANs? [05:24] hello, i need help with remote desktop connections is this a good place for help [05:25] i am using ubuntu and vinagre [05:27] yoophglup: Try #ubuntu [06:31] !paste [06:31] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [06:33] hi I have just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 8.10 - which worked seemlessly and then ISPconfig [06:34] I am now having problems when the server starts with bind9 and pop3 failing - Error log for bind http://paste.ubuntu.com/132863/ [06:34] help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated [07:04] hey is anyone in here who can help with bind9 please [07:26] New bug: #344678 in samba (main) "samba password create error after user has been deleted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344678 [09:02] moin [10:06] New bug: #343740 in samba (main) "Update from 8.04.1 to 8.10 failed" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343740 [10:23] hey guys, for some reason when i hotplug my sata drive it keeps getting an incremented /dev/sd* entry [10:23] any idea why? === mdz_ is now known as mdz [10:55] hola === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [12:23] evening all [12:23] !paste [12:23] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [12:25] I'm currently having issues with authing on my mailserver - via webmail and also external mail clients ie. outlook, here is a snippet from the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/133003/ === [1]sLaeYa is now known as sLaeYa [12:35] sLaeYa: Yes? [12:35] sLaeYa: Have you cecked your MYSQL_{SERVER,SOCKET} settings? [12:40] hello... what is the command to refresh /dev/disk/by-uuid ? [12:41] <[1]sLaeYa> hi soren, sorry my internet is playing up [12:41] <[1]sLaeYa> I haven't checked the MYSQL_{SERVER,SOCKET} settings as I am not sure how to do this [12:42] [1]sLaeYa: It says how right there in your error message? [12:42] <[1]sLaeYa> oh, i thought you were referring to mysql config [12:44] <[1]sLaeYa> i have absolutely nothing in /etc/courier/authmysqlrc does this mean I have setup my mysql wrong ? [12:46] <[1]sLaeYa> however I have a file authmysqlrc~ [12:48] it's kind of hard to tell with the amount of information you've given. [12:48] What have you done to teach courier to talk to your mysql server. [12:48] = [12:48] ? [12:50] <[1]sLaeYa> I followed a readme to install an Ubuntu 8.10 server with ISPconfig [12:50] Can you have 2 disks with the same label mounted? [12:51] [1]sLaeYa, we run ISPconfig here on ubuntu... what issue are you having? [12:51] hi guys, whats the easiest way to regenerate grub [12:51] i've copied over a server to a new hdd and it won't boot [12:51] I assume it's just grub that's messing up as it says "non-system disk" [12:52] <[1]sLaeYa> I am unable to authenticate with webmail or using pop3 I am getting this error in the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/133003/ [12:53] are you able to log in to the admin side of ISPconfig? === [3]sLaeYa is now known as sLaeYa [12:56] I also have the worst wireless internet connection at home, but thats another story [12:56] ***the last thing I saw before I dropped was*** my post about pastebin [12:57] I mean - my post with a pastebin link [12:57] sLaeYa, can you connect via the admin portion of ISPconfig? [12:57] yes [12:58] everything is working in there then, user and sites are add [12:59] Ethos: Did you create and copy over the /boot partition? [13:00] everything is working, I can add users I have added a site [13:00] and email accounts, and ftp users [13:00] FTP works - email doesn't [13:00] It was supposed to, but i've got a feeling it didn't [13:00] I used "ping" and selected all 3 partitions [13:00] in the services in the admin... is email running? [13:01] yes - all services are running [13:02] webserver, ftpserver, smtpserver, pop3server, bindserver and mysqlserver all show as running [13:05] sLaeYa, try to telnet to 110 and make sure it is answering. telnet server 110 [13:07] yes its working [13:07] +Ok Hello there. [13:09] The only other thing I can think of is you forgot to put a check by Mailuser login of the site [13:09] ispconfig? [13:09] yeah [13:10] sLaeYa, is having issues logging in to get mail [13:10] pop or web [13:10] both [13:10] i have ticked the mailuser box [13:11] does anyone know the command to refresh /dev/disk after adding a new partition? [13:13] Is software RAID tricky to set up on Ubuntu Server? [13:13] ball, no [13:13] I use mdadm [13:14] im ready to format the silly thing, only ive done this 3 times and it hasnt helped [13:14] heath|work: thanks [13:14] np... there are plenty of good tutorials on the net [13:15] sLaeYa, I believe everything is setup right. [13:15] I thought it was but I'm still getting the authentication error [13:15] how are you trying to log into webmail... using user@domain.com ? [13:15] Mar 18 20:49:56 server1 authdaemond: authmysql: MYSQL_SERVER nor MYSQL_SOCKET set in/etc/courier/authmysqlrc. [13:16] I have tried user@domain.com web1_user web1_user@domain.com [13:16] sounds like you simply haven't set it up right [13:16] have you tried following the guides? [13:17] sLaeYa, http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?p=172319 [13:17] heath|work: udevadm trigger [13:18] soren, nice... that will not change anything in use? [13:19] hey how do i know if apache is starting as root [13:20] heath|work: It probably will. [13:20] heath|work: Proceed with caution :) [13:20] hmmm.... I used a cmd once and of-course didn't write it down that worked perfect, but I can't find it [13:21] heath|work: Could have been udevadm trigger (or just udevtrigger, depending on the age of the system). [13:22] soren, thanks... I will read through the man pages to see how bad off I cam... I have a production server that I created a new part for, but need to get the UUID in /dev/disk [13:22] heath that confused me more than anything :( [13:23] lol... sorry, it just looked like your issue [13:23] heath|work: Oh, you could just try "partprobe /dev/sd?" [13:23] soren, THAT's IT [13:23] damn... I have been torturing myself all morning!! [13:23] thanks [13:23] it looked similar but it was written by someone who didn't have a good grasp of english, english isn't my first language so I don't understand it properly [13:24] heath|work: I thought you had just changed the contents of existing partitions. In that case, you /do/ need to udevadm trigger to pick up the new uuid. [13:24] heath|work: From Jaunty and onwards, though, you wouldn't need to do anything. Both things would automatically be dealt with by udev. [13:24] I even typed part... lol [13:24] what are the big changes in 9.04 server? [13:25] soren, cool, this server is going to be here till 2013 though [13:25] LTS [13:25] heath|work: "both things" being "adding a partition and putting a filesystem on it" and "re-mkfs'ing an existing partition and have the new uuid symlink pop up" [13:25] I'm debating whether to try Ubuntu Server on this machine [13:26] bromic94: I don't have a list handy, I'm afraid. I think there's something on the wiki, but I'm not sure. I know the few things, I've been working on myself, and some of the stuff others have been working on, but I don't have an exhaustive list. [13:26] soren: what have you been working on [13:26] i just meant what you guys are aware of [13:27] bromic94: I've been working on lots of virtualisation and cloud computing stuff. [13:27] nice [13:27] bromic94: And probably some other stuff I've forgotten about. [13:27] I keep myself busy :) [13:27] when i set up phpmyadmin i get invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache-ssl not found [13:28] it can not find the directory apache-ssl bc its not there [13:28] but i followed these instructions to setup ssl http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html [13:29] i want it to be only apache-ssl and not apache2-ssl and apache2 [13:30] bromic94: You really don't :) [13:30] bromic94: apache-ssl is *ancient* [13:30] oh ok [13:30] i want to go this: https://serverdomain.com/phpmadmin goes to phpmyadmin only not http [13:30] I think the Roman Empire's web page was hosted on it. Seriously, tt's not what you want. [13:30] lol [13:30] how can i stop the debian-installer from checking security.ubuntu.com repo during preseeded installs? [13:30] ok [13:31] i want a secure connection to phpmyadmin through https and not http [13:32] AnRkey: Put "d-i apt-setup/security_host string" in your preseed. [13:32] bromic94: Set up phpmyadmin as you normally would and move the "Alias /phpmyadmin" definition into your SSL VirtualHost. [13:33] oh ok...so in the VH for http take out the alias [13:33] the alias for https is alraedy in there i just nwat to remove the one for htpt [13:33] how would I do a clean install of the sasl ? [13:34] soren, thanks trying it now [13:34] that alias would be in the file /etc/apache2/sites-avaiable/default? [13:38] soren, thanks that fixed my problem [13:39] AnRkey: cool [13:39] shweet, it's flying past that part now, much faster [13:39] w000t [13:39] anyone? [13:39] i think it is under there but did not find it [13:40] ivoks, hi === mennis_ is now known as mennis [13:43] when you install phpmyadnmin it goes for https and http i wnat to remove access via http how can i do that [13:43] i know i haev to go and remove the alias but where is the alias listed === photon_ is now known as photon [13:52] bromic94, i know a little about apache configs (very little) taking a look at mine for u quick [13:52] brb [13:53] bromic94, have you setup https for apache yet? [13:54] if you want to force https you can do it with a .htaccess file and leave http on [13:55] that way if someone uses http it auto switches to https [13:55] bromic94, http://plesk.hostza.co.za [13:55] example of it working there [13:56] New bug: #344816 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql-server-5.0: Leaves password in debconf database" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344816 [13:58] Hm. Another reason not to use mysql [14:11] who sent me the stuff for gruffi.hostza.co.za? [14:11] and yes i have https set up for apache [14:11] already [14:16] is there a quick guide to setting up phpmyadmin on ubuntu server? [14:18] sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin [14:19] To set up under Apache all you need to do is include the following line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf. [14:19] Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf [14:19] Ethos: want to set it up only for https [14:19] not http [14:20] No idea [14:20] I just read "[14:16] < moz_> is there a quick guide to setting up phpmyadmin on ubuntu server? [14:20] " [14:20] Which says nothing about https :D [14:20] http [14:20] thanks [14:21] Ethos: oh ok [14:21] sorry [14:21] :) [14:23] will give it a whirl === bromic94_ is now known as bromic94 [14:23] finally lol [14:25] whats a good web admin gui for server [14:25] like webmin, cpanel, etc [14:26] bromic94: openpanel [14:26] bromic94: depends on your needs [14:27] the sources.list is where again? [14:28] /etc/apt [14:28] ok thanks [14:28] memory lapse lol [14:30] henkjan: going to try it out [14:30] is that the only open source one? [14:33] bromic94: There is ispconfig and ebox [14:33] i hate ebox [14:33] i have not dealt with ispconfig [14:34] could you send me a screen shot of openpanel id ont see where uc an see ss on their site [14:34] bromic94: ispconfig is good but as far as I know no deb package right now, so manual install [14:34] bromic94, why you don't like ebox? [14:34] i just done [14:34] *dont [14:34] for what i need to use it for like stuff that is precompiled [14:34] ebox u have to add stuff [14:36] bromic94: http://documentation.openpanel.com/index.php/End_users [14:36] i need help please i followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html now no mail is going in or out [14:36] dexem: u use ebox? [14:37] henkjan and dexem and genii ebox the people would need to use it dont have time to manually install it even though it is not that hard [14:37] please someone help [14:38] orudie: did you do the "testing" section with telnet? [14:38] bromic94, well, somehow yes... [14:38] bromic94, what things do you usually need to add manually? [14:38] giovani3, yes i have [14:38] i just want to undo it [14:38] orudie: and what happened? [14:38] then undo it ... all the steps you did are right there [14:38] Hi! Can You help me with file permissions? I have virtualmin (webmin) I have 2 partitions one /root, other /home (where all WEB content are located). I replaces system disk (/root) and now I have permission problems. Can You give me pelase some suggestions? Thank You! [14:38] giovani3, i have, but nothing is going in or out [14:38] giovani3, i am trying to undo it for now [14:38] then you didn't undo all of your steps :) [14:39] well by stopping daemos [14:39] can you please help me with this [14:39] sudo postconf -e 'content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024' [14:39] that right there i dont know how to undo [14:40] giovani3, dude please [14:41] orudie: you have to calm down ... this is free support, I'm working [14:42] giovani3, ok... not sure how to undo this line sudo postconf -e 'content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024' [14:42] orudie: it's in your /etc/postfix/main.cf [14:42] I believe [14:46] ok i removed that line now able to receive messages, but not send out [14:46] once again ... you simply have to undo what you've done -- I have no clue what you've done [14:55] ok i have undone everything and it seem to work like before [14:55] i'll work on this at night to make sure there is no email downtime === hessml|away is now known as hessml|away|away [15:24] i cant see to upload a file on my ftp client, to my ftp server that is running ubuntu server [15:25] i have enabled write access in the config files, and my 'www' directly is set to 777 chmod === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK [15:25] im using vsftpd [15:25] and smart ftp from a windows machine as client [15:25] are there any common mistakes i may have made [15:26] oh it seems to have made it in now... little bit confusing [15:30] New bug: #328688 in bind9 (main) "[dapper] socket.c:1616: INSIST(!sock->pending_recv) failed [fixed 9.3.5-P2]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328688 [15:36] is there a way to move files from one box to another using terminal ? [15:37] orudie: rsync is probably easiest [15:38] you could also use netcat and scp [15:38] oh scp i remember using that a while ago [15:39] orudie: if you need to copy to a windows box, smb might be easiest though since windows supports that natively [15:39] but rsync is my fav <3 [15:39] nope not windows [15:39] from ubuntu server to centos [15:44] You can install rsync on windows boxes with for instance cygwin [15:45] genii: didnt know that. cool :-) [15:45] billyk: np [15:45] You can also install ubuntu on windows boxes with for instance the ubuntu-server cd ;) [15:45] maswan: Hehe :) [15:46] haah i know that [15:51] billyk: MS also has some utilities called Services For Unix which includs stuff like nfs which can also be used for backups [15:52] meh, I'm happy with rsync for backups [15:53] oh, one question I had, I've always wondered which was fastest for copying data (least overhead) [15:53] ftp, scp, smb, rsync, nfs [15:55] differential rsync for me [15:56] <{bosco}> anyone know of a good site (how to ) to make it so users on my server can only view there own home dir and nothing else so they cant {cd} outsite of it??? [15:56] when is the release date for 9.04? [15:59] {bosco}, there was a put my users in jail thread on the forums... [15:59] here it is... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696103 [16:01] <{bosco}> thanks i will take a look [16:01] {bosco}, are they local users or remote? [16:08] <{bosco}> i only allow sftp and ssh access or will once the switch is done [16:09] <{bosco}> heathjwork [16:09] <{bosco}> heath|work: [16:10] <{bosco}> you there [16:10] {bosco}, can't you just change the other perm to 0 for all folders you don't want them to get inito [16:10] <{bosco}> idk lol [16:11] <{bosco}> i just want them not to be able to view anything else but there home dir how hard can that be lol [16:13] <{bosco}> heath|work: [16:14] <{bosco}> you there [16:16] it's not hard something like find / -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec chmod o-rwx '{}' \; [16:16] you can't cd on a dir that is not exec [16:16] test that first^^ I just shat it out [16:26] heath|work: If your system is a web server that will break it, and so on and so forth... :) I think the more interesting issue is exactly *why* {bosco} feels that for users to be able to look at the contents of (say) /bin or /usr/bin is a problem and something he needs to prevent...?? What is in there that is so secret?? if there are a few directories on his machine that for some reason *are* secret but publica [16:26] lly readable, then it makes sense to just protect those... [16:29] I agree [16:35] Anyone here familiar with SAN gear from Coraid? [16:45] New bug: #344911 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "apparmor profile deny write to /tmp in Ubuntu 8.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344911 [16:49] i'm using a vps account to deploy ubuntu 8.10 server [16:50] and it installs only the "basic core" , how would i get it to the standard ubuntu server , lets say if i would have installed it from a cd === kpettit_ is now known as kpettit [17:44] kirkland: likewise-open questions? [17:45] mathiaz: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/likewise-open/+bug/323601 [17:45]