[00:00] <aboleth> from what ive seen it really doesnt
[00:00] <aboleth> it mostly just adds a background window
[00:00] <cdenny> rhythmbox music player gets choppy when doing the 3d cube, but it never gets below 100fps.  sometimes i have to forcequit rhythm box because it froze when doing that as well.  Should I try a different music player?
[00:00] <Anna_111> stduseren, no reason to shout. I also want to know how I can install Xchat
[00:00] <aboleth> it used that window as the only one, instead of using 3
[00:00] <fosco__> stduseren, switch off caps lock please
[00:01] <aboleth> but the new gimp just uses toolbox windows for the other two
[00:01] <fosco__> Anna_111, sudo apt-get install xchat
[00:01] <cjae> using 8.04 and ufw is there but not yet enabled, question is gufw (the graphical front end) not in 8.04?
[00:01] <cactusfrog> how do i window out of games ctl alt d doesn't work although it does when i am not playing any,
[00:01] <volfied2> IntuitiveNipple: thank you man!
[00:01] <cdenny> rhythmbox music player gets choppy when doing the 3d cube, but it never gets below 100fps.  sometimes i have to forcequit rhythm box because it froze when doing that as well.  Should I try a different music player?
[00:01] <Anna_111> aboleth, I see. I seem to have it installed but I can't find it
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: Use jribs... he knew of a service that doesn't need screen-scraping
[00:02] <gartral> cdenny: yes, try exial
[00:02] <aboleth> cdenny: dont do the 3d cube while using rbox?
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> volfied2: wget -q -O - http://whatismyip.org
[00:02] <AnyaJ> IntuitiveNipple, do you know of any way I can get my usb mic to work on 8.10?
[00:02] <volfied2> IntuitiveNipple: yeah using that, thanks a lot
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> AnyaJ: plug it in? :)
[00:02] <aboleth> Anna_111: try entering gimpshop in the terminal or something
[00:02] <AnyaJ> IntuitiveNipple, doesn't work
[00:02] <gartral> cdenny: IMHO rbox is a POS
[00:02] <AnyaJ> anyway, maybe skype is the problem
[00:02] <IntuitiveNipple> AnyaJ: That's the way I do it :)
[00:02] <aboleth> Anna_111: I'm not sure what name it uses
[00:03] <AnyaJ> it says audio playback not working
[00:03] <Anna_111> aboleth, I did. It did not work.
[00:03] <cdenny> gartral:  exial doesnt have any hits
[00:03] <aboleth> AnyaJ: what do you prefer?
[00:03] <AnyaJ> aboleth, ?
[00:03] <Trippin> hi
[00:03] <gartral> !music|cdenny
[00:03] <AnyaJ> i got it to work before, but then whenever my skype phone rang, i had to reset my audio
[00:03] <AnyaJ> i think i had disabled pulse or something
[00:03] <cdenny> !music |cdenny
[00:03] <AnyaJ> well, i'm too busy today to fix this i will come back and ask another time
[00:03] <gartral> nope...
[00:03] <cdenny> gartral: exial does not exist? is it spelled wrong?
[00:04] <Anna_111> aboleth, Synaptic package manager says that Gimpshop is installed on my box
[00:04] <cdenny> !exial |cdenny
[00:04] <gartral> yes, it's Exiale
[00:04] <cdenny> oh
[00:04] <aboleth> Anna_111: did you try just opening gimp
[00:04] <gartral> sorry, my bad
[00:04] <aboleth> it could modify the installation of gimp you have
[00:04] <aboleth> i'm not sure though
[00:04] <lynx89> hola! alguien que hable español?
[00:04] <cdenny> gartral: your favorite? have you used others
[00:04] <aboleth> well it seems like restarting pulse audio is taking forever
[00:04] <aboleth> here is the output
[00:05] <Anna_111> aboleth, yes I can open gimp
[00:05] <dreamy> hi room
[00:06] <gartral> cdenny: with me, its exial, vlc, or amarok... i think most others are either too instable (rbox, mplayer) or too dang slow
[00:06] <aboleth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132773/
[00:06] <princessashley> i need to get my computers spec. i tried lshw but, thats more information then i need
[00:07] <aboleth> it was much longer than this
[00:07] <aboleth> but the terminal only can go so many lines long
[00:07] <dennda> princessashley: what exactly do you need?
[00:07] <princessashley> what command can i use to get a simple overview of my specs for linux guru friend to read?
[00:07] <aboleth> has anyone else here had pulse audio problems
[00:08] <princessashley> for lack of a better comparison like a resume
[00:08] <cactusfrog> so are there any movie editers for ubuntu?
[00:08] <gartral> cdenny:  and it should be noted; do not try to play a wav cd with VLC and pulse audio, lest you really have your ears
[00:08] <IntuitiveNipple> princessashley: lspci -nn
[00:08] <gartral> s// have/hate
[00:08] <dennda> princessashley: cat /proc/cpuinfo is your cpu, lspci gives you things like graphics card, etc. free gives you RAM, etc...
[00:09] <princessashley> ok ill give it a shot
[00:09] <Anna_111>  I want to know how I can install Xchat
[00:09] <aboleth> Anna_111: sudo apt-get xchat?
[00:09] <ExAstris> Anna_111: what are you using now then xD
[00:09] <Gnea> !info xchat
[00:09] <Anna_111> oh all lower case? let me try aboleth
[00:09] <aboleth> Anna_111: i mean sudo apt-get install xchat
[00:10] <aboleth> Anna_111: was that sarcastic?
[00:10] <Gnea> yes, this is unix, everything is case-sensitive
[00:10] <cactusfrog> ok so does anyone know any good moive editer
[00:10] <cactusfrog> ???
[00:10] <aboleth> i remember hearing about kino
[00:10] <aboleth> i dont know how good it is
[00:10] <cactusfrog> ook
[00:10] <Gnea> avidemux
[00:11] <jrib> cactusfrog: avidemux, kino, pitivi
[00:11] <Anna_111> ok aboleth, installed xchat
[00:11] <Anna_111> thanks
[00:12] <cdenny> gartral: thanks, using it right now and it has no hiccups whatsoever, even when i go crazy and make my cube freak out
[00:12] <aboleth> Anna_111: you're welcome
[00:12] <cactusfrog> how do i install a program in a tar.gz???
[00:12] <aboleth> can anyone please help me with pulse audio?
[00:12] <jrib> cactusfrog: what program?
[00:12] <cactusfrog> aboleth: google it driver problem
[00:13] <aboleth> cactusfrog: i don' think its a driver problem
[00:13] <aboleth> it only started when i upgraded to ibex
[00:13] <aboleth> today
[00:13] <aboleth> and sound works fine with tremulous
[00:13] <aboleth> i'm 99% sure its related to pulse audio
[00:13] <cactusfrog> aboleth: plug in some earphones the speaker jack can you hear sound???
[00:13] <aboleth> cactusfrog: hold on
[00:13] <Anna_111> cactusfrog: .. two step process.. say file name is file1.tar.gz . step 1: gunzip file1.tar.gz   step 2 tar -xvf file1.tar
[00:14] <Gnea> !pulseaudio | aboleth
[00:14] <cactusfrog> Anna_111: thats all in terminal right?
[00:14] <progmanos> Has anyone gotten Miro 2.0.3 to work with Jaunty?
[00:14] <Anna_111> cactusfrog: yes
[00:14] <aboleth> again, i already looked at that
[00:14] <slowrotor> exit
[00:14] <Gnea> Anna_111: with modern tar, you can eliminate the gunzip and go straight to:  tar xvf file1.tar.gz
[00:15] <bigrigger> cactusfrog: one step tar -xvzf file.tar.gz
[00:15] <Gnea> don't even need the z anymore, at least not on Ubuntu
[00:15] <Anna_111> Gnea oh ok.. I used Unix back in school.. still use those commands.. thanks tho
[00:15] <bigrigger> cactusfrog: cd to the new directory, go from there.
[00:15] <aboleth> i'm trying with headphones right now
[00:15] <aboleth> and it doesnt seem to be working
[00:16] <Gnea> Anna_111: doubt it, but np
[00:16] <Anna_111> thanks for saving some extra key strokes, Gnea. By the way is the - is not needed before xvf?
[00:16] <aboleth> one second
[00:17] <Anna_111> I thought the switch was still needed
[00:17] <aboleth> i went to volume control
[00:17] <aboleth> i tried modifying pulseaudio pcm and i hear a crackling
[00:17] <Gnea> Anna_111: it became optional around the turn of the century, it's a nice adjuster
[00:17] <Anna_111> hehe
[00:17] <Gnea> :)
[00:17] <Anna_111> ok I am dated now
[00:17] <dg19075> i ditched pulseaudio
[00:18] <gartral> pulse audio, actally works on my system
[00:18] <Anna_111> Gnea, synaptic says gimpshop is installed but I can't find in applications - Graphics
[00:18] <Gnea> pulseaudio is quirky, at best... usually takes a bit of work to get it to work right
[00:19] <dg19075> quite happy with alsa or oss
[00:19] <ExAstris> pulseaudio works for one app at a time, sometimes, on my system
[00:19] <aboleth> i tried getting rid of it at first
[00:19] <ExAstris> I wish I could get it working, I have no idea how.
[00:19] <Gnea> Anna_111: gimpshop..heh... let's double check:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep gimp
[00:19] <aboleth> but it didn't seem to work
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> +1 alsa
[00:19] <aboleth> i followed the instructions of a blog
[00:19] <echinos> is there any dvd authoring software in the repos that *works*? I've tried a couple, and it all seems crashy and kludgy. :/
[00:20] <aboleth> interesting
[00:20] <cje> Hi, I am having a problem with my screen resolution under Intrepid.
[00:20] <aboleth> i can only read the crackling in the headphones
[00:20] <aboleth> not my speakers
[00:20] <Gnea> echinos: such as?
[00:20] <dg19075> i purged pulseaudio
[00:20] <echinos> qdvdauthor, kmediafactory so far have been busts
[00:20] <aboleth> if i remove the headphones
[00:20] <alienkid> is anyone good at making buttons for an emerald theme?
[00:20] <aboleth> so is that what i should do?
[00:20] <aboleth> remove it completely?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> alienkid: i'd suggest taking an existing theme and study its layout
[00:20] <Gnea> dg19075: yeah, that was the preferred method for awhile, until someone wised-up and improved the docmentation
[00:20] <dg19075> best if u don't want to waste time tinkering
[00:20] <Gnea> !pulseaudio
[00:20] <stefan_can> !firewall
[00:21] <stefan_can> !firestarter
[00:21] <Gnea> echinos: hrm, haven't had any problems with (q)dvdauthor, although it does take some work to get it done right
[00:21] <cje> I have tried changing my screen resolution with System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, but it leaves me with only one choice: 0 Hz
[00:21] <echinos> Gnea: it crashes on me :/
[00:22] <alienkid> ActionParsnip: I tried but can't determine it. Also spacing of the buttons image I can't quite get
[00:22] <Gnea> echo_mirage: o.O  that's strange... have you tried going at it from the commandline?
[00:22] <echinos> Gnea: I'll try it a bit more, see if I can convince it to spit out a disc for me
[00:22] <cje> I have an ATI video controller, which I am told needs the radeonhd driver, and I have downloaded it, but I don't know how to turn on the radeonhd driver.
[00:23] <Gnea> echinos: I didn't get it right the first couple of times either, so be prepared to make some coasters
[00:23] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Hey any reason why when i load Gnome and select a new Theme, the old theme will load instead on start up?
[00:23] <felixsulla> Does anyone here know much about Virtualbox -- specifically backups?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> alienkid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=844675
[00:23] <arkady> felixsulla: how to backup a Virtualbox disk?
[00:23] <Gnea> echinos: or use the rw to rewrite :)
[00:23] <crdlb> cje: what model is it?
[00:23] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla i "might" be able to help
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> felixsulla: backups of the vbox itself of backups of data on the vbox?
[00:24] <felixsulla> I want to make a good copy of the guest OS os that if my host and/or guest die I have a good working copy.
[00:24] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Hey any reason why when i load Gnome and select a new Theme, the old theme will load instead on start up?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> felixsulla: backup you ~/.virtualbox folder
[00:24] <Gnea> !vbox | felixsulla
[00:24] <felixsulla> Gnea: I know what it IS.
[00:25] <Gnea> !changethemes | SpuddlyMcMartin
[00:25] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla you can backup the vdi's but they are locked when powered on
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> felixsulla: it also says where to get help with it (#vbox)
[00:25] <Gnea> felixsulla: pardon?
[00:25] <SpuddlyMcMartin> ubottu: I didn't dl this theme. it was stock. It just does not stay when i restart
[00:26] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: Do you need to use clonehd on the .VDIs to keep the UID from being messed up? And what do the .xml files do?
[00:26] <Barridus> ugh, i can't get into launchpad.net, is it down?
[00:26] <Barridus> disregard
[00:26] <cje> crdlb, not sure
[00:26]  * gartral loves it when people mistake ubottu as a user
[00:26] <cje> looking
[00:27] <crdlb> cje: you can run 'lspci | grep -i vga' to find out
[00:27] <cje> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]
[00:27] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla use the VBoxManage clonevdi feature
[00:27] <cje> crdlb, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]
[00:27] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: Do yo know what the .xml files do?
[00:27] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla the xml files are the configs, like vmx files in vmware
[00:28] <crdlb> cje: if you're on intrepid, that will work out of the box (for 2d, video, and compiz)
[00:28] <Anna_111> gnea: the result of dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep gimp     is on http://pastebin.com/m632050c8
[00:28] <crdlb> cje: if you want faster 3d for gaming, then you can use the proprietary fglrx driver
[00:28] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla they are what virtual box uses to give the vm hardware and such
[00:28] <Gnea> SpuddlyMcMartin: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1045426
[00:28] <cje> crdlb, thx, but it is not working out of the box under Intrepid, sadly.
[00:28] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: OK, so they need to be backed up also.
[00:28] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla depends,
[00:28] <cje> crdlb, the refresh rate is not high enough.
[00:29] <fearful> whats easier to use on ubuntu iPhone or Black Berry?
[00:29] <cje> crdlb, I am getting some nasty flicker and it is giving me headaches.
[00:29] <arkady> felixsulla: copy the VDI file and run the command: VBoxManage internalcommands setvdiuuid <virtualdisk.vdi>
[00:29] <arkady> felixsulla: also copy the ~/.VirtualBox/Machines directory if you are running on an OS that checks hardware so you can make sure it's set to the same values
[00:29] <Gnea> Anna_111: are you able to launch gimp from the commandline?
[00:29] <crdlb> cje: oh, it's a desktop?
[00:29] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla in the eveny of a disaster, wouldn't you just want to re-create the vm's and attach the vdi's?
[00:29] <cje> crdlb, yes, a desktop
[00:29] <crdlb> cje: with a CRT?
[00:29] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: But odesnt that mean I'd have to manually reconfigure all the settings in Vbox before running the "new" guest?
[00:30] <cje> crdlb, yes, a CRT
[00:30] <crdlb> cje: which driver do you have enabled now?
[00:30] <Anna_111> yes gnea and it says gimshop on the splash screen
[00:30] <cje> crdlb, not sure which driver is enabled now.
[00:30] <felixsulla> arkady: Does that command assign a new UID to the copied VDI?
[00:30] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 "apt-get install slocate" "slocate -u" "slocate gimpshop"
[00:30] <Gnea> heh...
[00:30] <crdlb> cje: look in system > admin > hardware drivers
[00:30] <cje> crdlb, k, checking now, thank you
[00:30] <crdlb> cje: if that driver is disabled, then you're using the builtin open source radeon driver
[00:31] <Gnea> Anna_111: have you tried logging out, then logging back in via the GUI?
[00:31] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla yes, but if the VDI is not in the same place as it is on originating machine, then they wont fire up
[00:31] <Delvien> How does one change the default keyring for an app in Jaunty? It's not in PW and Encrytion anymore....
[00:31] <Anna_111> thanks _Linuxx_
[00:31] <Gnea> Anna_111: for that matter, if you make a new account and login with it, does gimp show up in the graphics menu there?
[00:31] <Kumba_> I am running apt-get -y upgrade but it's still prompting for yes/no, how can I make it just install?
[00:31] <fearful> !jaunty | Delvien
[00:31] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: Which is why I asked about the UID and clonevdi thing?
[00:31] <Kumba_> without the prompt
[00:31] <Delvien> woops! thought i was in +1
[00:31] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla just know that when you reinstall virtualbox on the "DR" box, that you will have to edit thost xml's to make sure everything is correct
[00:32] <h2os> hello, have a fresh install 8.10 and it doesn't seem to load the kernel after grub hands "loading....", then bustbox prompt, any ideas?
[00:32] <cje> crdlb, this is a little confusing
[00:32] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: "DR"? Data Recovery box?..?
[00:32] <cje> crdlb, It says that there are no proprietary drivers enabled.
[00:32] <Akkernight> what software can I use for unpacking .rar files on Ubuntu?
[00:32] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 yes,
[00:32] <jrib> !unrar | Akkernight
[00:32] <crdlb> cje: ok, so you're using the open source radeon driver
[00:32] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 opps.. wrong person
[00:32] <arkady> felixsulla: yeah
[00:32] <fearful> !info rar
[00:32] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla yes
[00:33] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 BTW, no prob
[00:33] <cje> crdlb, k, so I am willing to use the proprietary driver
[00:33] <cje> crdlb, I am getting headaches from staring at the screen
[00:33] <crdlb> cje: it's not very good, but you can try it :)
[00:33] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla the clonevdi will just make a live backup of the machine as its on
[00:33] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_, arkady : So I'd have to manually configure all the settings no matter what? Regardless of if I used clonevdi or saved the associated .xmls?
[00:33] <crdlb> there may be a way to fix the refresh rate with radeon ... I dunno
[00:33] <cje> crdlb, I would prefer to use the FOSS solution
[00:33] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Gnea: did you see that error?
[00:34] <crdlb> cje: I assume you looked at system > prefs > screen resolution?
[00:34] <Anna_111> when I typed gimp on the terminal gimp opened BUt I got this: http://pastebin.com/m1288db07
[00:34] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Gnea: there was no solution to it
[00:34] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla when you restore the data on the "restore/DR/whatever" box, just know that you will need to edit the paths in the xml files
[00:34] <cje> crdlb, yes, and going to system > prefs > screen resolution only gives me one choice
[00:34] <cje> crdlb, I only get to chose from 0 Hza
[00:34] <jrib> Anna_111: does "/usr/local" mean anything to you?
[00:34] <cje> 0 Hz
[00:35] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: So if I have snapshots, the .vdi I want is one of the {hexcodehere}.vdi files?
[00:35] <cje> crdlb, I would like to be able to chose 75 hz
[00:35] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla i would use the xml file as a guide and recreate the machines in virtualbox, then attach the vdi's
[00:35] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: Would that be the "most recent" version of my vm?
[00:35] <crdlb> cje: something's definitely broken then
[00:35] <cje> crdlb, dang
[00:35] <cje> heh
[00:35] <_Linuxx_> there should only be 1 vdi, so you have snapshots or something?
[00:35] <crdlb> cje: I guess you can use fglrx for now, then you could try radeon again if you upgrade to jaunty in a month or so
[00:36] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: Yes quite a few snapshots, do I have to get rid of them before I can backup?
[00:36] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla oops.. forgot your name ... there should only be 1 vdi, so you have snapshots or something?
[00:36] <cje> crdlb, Thx, I will do as you are recommending
[00:36] <PVTPETE> hi again
[00:36] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla hum... let me see what is recommended for that...
[00:36] <Anna_111> Gnea, how do I make a new account?
[00:37] <crdlb> cje: if neither driver works, you can disable fglrx, and ask the #radeon folks for help with the open source driver
[00:37] <Trippin> what is the frontend of python called GUI?
[00:37] <cje> crdlb, I will get Jaunty as soon as it comes out
[00:37] <dan___> hello can anyone help me with installing my video capture card? its called lifeview and i am using intrepid thanks.
[00:37] <Gnea> SpuddlyMcMartin: i just searched google... wasn't sure if that would do it or not.. not sure :/
[00:37] <jrib> Trippin: that question doesn't make sense
[00:37] <cje> crdlb, I have just gotten the proprietary driver
[00:37] <Anna_111> _Linuxx_ I got an error with slocate.. let me post it on pastebin
[00:37] <cje> crdlb, rebooting now.
[00:37] <zandie> hai people :)
[00:37] <felixsulla> Trippin: IDLE?
[00:38] <felixsulla> Trippin: Do you mean the IDE?
[00:38] <Gnea> Anna_111: well, before you bother doing that, how did you get gimp in /usr/local? did you install from source at one point, then via the repositories later?
[00:38] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Gnea: Well thanks for your help, I'll keep searching!
[00:38] <PVTPETE> hai zandie
[00:38] <Trippin> well i type python under run command and nothing happens, but in terminal it runs fine in console
[00:38] <jrib> Trippin: yes.  So what  is your question?
[00:39] <Slart> Trippin: python doesn't really have a gui by default..
[00:39] <cje> crdlb, wow, the problem is still there.
[00:39] <LogicFan> curious, why does intrepid ship with openoffice 2.4 when 3.x has been out for some time now?
[00:39] <cje> crdlb,  I still can only choose from 0 hz
[00:39] <felixsulla> Trippin: Isnt that normal? Dont you' interact from Python by the command line?
[00:39] <Slart> Trippin: are you trying to do something special?
[00:39] <fearful> LogicFan, becuase it was only beta when 8.10 came out.
[00:39] <Izinucs> LogicFan: 3.x wasn't out when intrepid came out
[00:39] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 are you sudo'n it?
[00:39] <felixsulla> LogicFan: Appraently it just missed the cutoff to be included from what I've read.
[00:39] <Trippin> oh okay slart i wasn't sure never used it i wanted to check it out
[00:39] <Izinucs> !latest | LogicFan
[00:39] <LogicFan> i see
[00:39] <Gnea> LogicFan: timing issue. intrepid shipped before ooo3 was ready.
[00:39] <PVTPETE> I got the error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:39] <PVTPETE> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[00:39] <PVTPETE> " when trying to install samba file sharing
[00:39] <PVTPETE> any ideas anyone ?
[00:39] <PVTPETE> :)
[00:40] <FloodBot2> PVTPETE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <jrib> PVTPETE: did you try reading the message?
[00:40] <ubuntu__> join #particular
[00:40] <crdlb> cje: I'm guessing the monitor is sending bad EDID info; it can probably be worked around, but I don't know how
[00:40] <dr_willis> 3.0 caused a lot of issues also when people tried to install it soon after 3.0 came out.
[00:40] <fearful> PVTPETE, run sudo dpkg --configure-a
[00:40] <Gnea> LogicFan: or ooo3 was late to the intrepid launch, however you'd like to look at it :)
[00:40] <LogicFan> is 3.x still not packaged for intrepid?  i'm wondering why it doesn't show up in updater
[00:40] <PVTPETE> yeah I did. hehe - but wasn't sure how to do it
[00:40] <Anna_111> _Linuxx_ for slocate I got this: http://pastebin.com/m29cc1564
[00:40] <jrib> !ooo | LogicFan
[00:40] <cje> crdlb, but it was working just a few days ago with Hardy.
[00:40] <PVTPETE> total nooob I'm afraid :)
[00:40] <fearful> LogicFan, all you need to do is add the repository for 3.x now.
[00:40] <fearful> PVTPETE, it's alright, that will fix your issue :)
[00:40] <PVTPETE> :D
[00:40] <crdlb> cje: what driver were you using on hardy?
[00:40] <Izinucs> crdlb: cje although a bit beyond me right now, the !resolution link shows how to add the correct frequencies to xorg..
[00:40] <dan___> PVTPETE just type the exact command
[00:41] <fearful> dan___, that needs superuser tho :p
[00:41] <LogicFan> fearful, what is the reason why ooo3 isn't in the official repos?  is it just timing?  e.g. waiting for jaunty?
[00:41] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla i would need to test with snapshots. best is not to have any of course. I would check to see if, when you create a snapshot, is the original vdi still locked, you know what im saying?
[00:41] <dan___> oh right...
[00:41] <PVTPETE> ok i've go another error
[00:41] <cje> crdlb, not sure which driver I was using under Hardy.  It just worked, so I never questioned it.
[00:41] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: well I know you can "merge" your snapshots to get rid of them maybe I should jsut do that
[00:41] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 when in doubt, sudo! :-P
[00:41] <fearful> LogicFan, its not in the repos now because it oo3 was in beta test on intrepid launch, but now all you need to do is add the newer repository for Intrepid and voila.
[00:41] <cje> Izinucs, sorry, what does !resolution mean?
[00:41] <PVTPETE> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6-dev:
[00:41] <PVTPETE>  libc6-dev depends on libc6 (= 2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9); however:
[00:41] <PVTPETE>   Package libc6 is not installed.
[00:41] <PVTPETE> dpkg: error processing libc6-dev (--configure):
[00:41] <PVTPETE>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[00:41] <FloodBot2> PVTPETE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <PVTPETE> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:42] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla i would
[00:42] <fearful> PVTPETE, http://paste.ubuntu.com :p
[00:42] <Gnea> !pastebin | PVTPETE
[00:42] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla i have the same issue in vmware esx
[00:42] <jrib> "libc6 is not installed" -- this will be interesting
[00:42] <PVTPETE> ok
[00:42] <crdlb> !resolution > cje
[00:42] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: The documentation on Vbox is TERRIBLE.
[00:42] <crdlb> cje: you'd probably have more luck trying it with the open source driver, so I'd disable fglrx and reboot first
[00:42] <Gnea> felixsulla: so fix it
[00:43] <LogicFan> fearful, thanks, appreciate the update
[00:43] <datzen> guude
[00:43] <felixsulla> Gnea: ?
[00:43] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla yeah, but the forums are awesome, post your queston there, with LOTS of info, you willget a replay
[00:43] <_Linuxx_> reply
[00:43] <PVTPETE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132781/
[00:43] <PVTPETE> for the terminal error
[00:43] <fearful> LogicFan, your welcome, softpedia has a very easy walk through on installing. Google; openoffice 3.0 ubuntu 8.10 softpedia
[00:43] <Gnea> felixsulla: what do you mean, ?? this is linux, it means that, if you don't like the way something works, you change it and make it work better. :)
[00:43] <Anna_111> Gnea: to answer your question I typed this wget -c http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb
[00:43] <Anna_111> sudo dpkg -i gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb
[00:43] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: I've googled lots of things, seems no one can give a concise tutorial on the backups.
[00:43] <jrib> Anna_111: do you understand what that did?
[00:44] <Gnea> Anna_111: oh my.... one sec
[00:44] <cje> crdlb, sorry, what does !resolution > cje mean?
[00:44] <felixsulla> Gnea: Only I didnt code VBox so I'm not in much of a position to change it. Besides, I think the technology is good, its just poorly documented.
[00:44] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla this guy hints on it.. "http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14783"
[00:44] <cje> crdlb, ! usually means "not"
[00:44] <Anna_111> Gnea: It was from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423635
[00:44] <Gnea> felixsulla: the documentation is always open to re-interpretation
[00:44] <crdlb> cje: it's a trigger for ubottu, who just /msged you
[00:44] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla seriously hit the forums, you will be amazed
[00:45] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: I read that post, but it doesnt anwser any questions about UID's or the .xml files usage or what they do
[00:45] <LogicFan> fearful, adding repos now
[00:45] <cje> crdlb, thx!
[00:45] <cje> crdlb, so it's sort of a help bot trigger?
[00:45] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: Searching on the forums for "backups" comes up with hundreds of hits, but I never found a good clear explanation.
[00:45] <mike454ci> hey guise i need 2 gt my pc runnin again my m8 put n it the ubuntu mandrake 3.3 nw cant get games and lol wont start guise help lol!
[00:45] <fearful> PVTPETE, run sudo apt-get update
[00:45] <felixsulla> Gnea: If I get a good system going for backups I'll post my own tutorial :)
[00:45] <interneting> i want tto highlight a bunch of mp3 and open them in vlc, i want it to play them in order not to open multiplte instances of vlc, how do i do that? (on itrepid-gnome)
[00:45] <crdlb> cje: yes
[00:45] <cje> crdlb, btw, the non-Free drivers are working!  yay!
[00:46] <Gnea> felixsulla: :D
[00:46] <PVTPETE> ok
[00:46] <fearful> PVTPETE, then run sudo apt-get autoclean
[00:46] <cje> crdlb, now I just have to hang my head in shame for about one month or so
[00:46] <cje> heh
[00:46] <felixsulla> Gnea: But first I have to understand it myself.. heh
[00:46] <Gnea> felixsulla: by all means... :)
[00:46] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla post the question. im sure other people have that same question, and nobody is asking it
[00:46] <PVTPETE> ok it's getting the update
[00:46] <PVTPETE> :)
[00:46] <jrib> mike454ci: please speak english
[00:46] <Anna_111> jrib : was it for Debian?
[00:46] <cje> crdlb, but at least the headaches will stop
[00:46] <PVTPETE> btw - another problem. I've formatted several drives with the gpartition manager and I don't have permissions for the drives
[00:46] <jrib> Anna_111: it could be *anything*
[00:46] <PVTPETE> is there any way to gain permission ?
[00:47] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: I did, have only gotten one somewhat vague answer so far. We'll see if something more awesome pops up. The guy just pointed at http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=29266#29266 which is really high level and generalized.
[00:47] <fearful> PVTPETE, are they ext3 partitions?
[00:47] <PVTPETE> yep
[00:47] <fearful> PVTPETE, or 2
[00:47] <PVTPETE> 3
[00:47] <felixsulla> _Linuxx_: Either way I appreciate your help/insights.
[00:47] <n8tuserf> PVTPETE -> you cannot even get into gpartition lest you have root priviledges?
[00:47] <fearful> PVTPETE, sudo chmod -R 755 /directory
[00:47] <Gnea> Anna_111: I see, now, the problem: -rwxr-xr-x root/root   3010612 2006-07-16 04:26 ./usr/local/bin/gimp-2.2
[00:48] <PVTPETE> i've got root permission on my root drive with ubuntu installed
[00:48] <Anna_111> _Linuxx_ for slocate I got this: http://pastebin.com/m29cc1564     could you pls take a look?
[00:48] <Gnea> Anna_111: so, try typing this on the commandline:  gimp-2.2
[00:48] <PVTPETE> ty fearful
[00:48] <fearful> PVTPETE, wait, if its were the install is you don't want to do that..
[00:48] <zaccour> how do i upgrade to a new distro with the ppc version?
[00:48] <fearful> PVTPETE, I assumed they were separate partitions  you were mounting
[00:49] <PVTPETE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132783/
[00:49] <PVTPETE> seperate hard drives
[00:49] <cje> crdlb, thx a lot for your help!
[00:49] <_Linuxx_> felixsulla, NP bro, i love virtual machines, i run 80% virtual at work with over 80 servers. I deal with a lot of stupid crap when it comes to virtual technology
[00:49] <PVTPETE> internally mounted
[00:49]  * Kumba_ burps and itches himself
[00:49] <cje> crdlb, I am going to leave soon, but thanks again tons!
[00:49] <PVTPETE> 3 120 gig ones
[00:49] <fearful> PVTPETE, well, I meant /directory as in /media/<mounted drive>
[00:49] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 "sudo slocate-u"
[00:49] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 "sudo slocate gimpshop"
[00:49] <cje> Izinucs, thx to you, too, for your help!  I will be leaving soon.
[00:49] <fearful> PVTPETE, example sudo chmod -R 755 /media/disk1
[00:50] <PVTPETE> ahhh ok
[00:50] <Gnea> _Linuxx_: no need, it's called, quite simply:  gimp-2.2
[00:50] <PVTPETE> so I have to specify the mount point
[00:50] <fearful> PVTPETE, correct
[00:50] <PVTPETE> :)
[00:50] <PVTPETE> dunce hat for me
[00:50] <Anna_111> gnea: : http://pastebin.com/m3976m6f     could you pls take a look?
[00:50] <PVTPETE> :)
[00:50] <_Linuxx_> gnea gimpshop is?
[00:50] <_Linuxx_> gnea i know gimp is
[00:50] <Gnea> _Linuxx_: yeah, snag the .deb and dpkg --contents and you'll see what I mean
[00:51] <_Linuxx_> gnea is gimpshop not something different?!?!
[00:51] <Gnea> Anna_111: says it's not there
[00:51] <dr_willis> gimp + different menu layouts
[00:51] <PVTPETE> right
[00:51] <PVTPETE> terminal downloaded the updates
[00:51] <_Linuxx_> i thought so
[00:51] <PVTPETE> afaik
[00:51] <dr_willis> but since i dont use Pshop.. i dont need it. :)
[00:51] <sebsebseb> _Linuxx_: indeed Gimpshop is basically The GIMP,  except it puts everthing into a big frame
[00:51] <_Linuxx_> so it wont have the same binary
[00:51] <Anna_111> Gnea: synaptic says it's installed
[00:52] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb so it wont have the same binary
[00:52] <Anna_111> it's not the same binary, sebsebseb
[00:52] <binarymutant> is there a way to search typical mailing lists?
[00:52] <zaccour> how do i upgrade to a new distro with the ppc version?
[00:52] <Slart> binarymutant: some have a web interface where you can search
[00:53] <PVTPETE> looks like I got the same error again
[00:53] <_igel_> hi
[00:53] <zaccour> the alt+f2 and update-manager -d didnt work
[00:53] <Gnea> _Linuxx_: that's why you need to pay attention to the actual contents of the package - it places it entirely in /usr/local, which means it's installed alongside of 'regular' gimp (for Ubuntu) in /usr - because there's already a gimp on the system, and because it's a third-party .deb package, it's not creating a menu item
[00:53] <zaccour> i got an error
[00:53] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb / anna_111  / gnea - its not going to have the same binary as gimp...
[00:53] <PVTPETE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132784/ same error
[00:53] <LogicFan> wow, what a speed improvement from openoffice 2.4 to 3.x!
[00:53] <binarymutant> Slart, what if they don't provide a web interface? any other way?
[00:54] <Gnea> _Linuxx_: and, if you saw what I said before........ 19:48 < Gnea> Anna_111: I see, now, the problem: -rwxr-xr-x root/root   3010612 2006-07-16 04:26 ./usr/local/bin/gimp-2.2    <-- you can see that the binary has been found.
[00:54] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb / anna_111  / gnea - i think it would be very helpful to anna to learn how to find things on her machine, therefore some slocate knowledge would be good, dont you think?
[00:54] <Slart> binarymutant: not that I know of.. no
[00:54] <binarymutant> :(
[00:54] <Gnea> _Linuxx_: agreed
[00:54] <fearful> PVTPETE, run sudo apt-get --fix-broken
[00:54] <_Linuxx_> gnea thank you..
[00:54] <Lord-Jynx> anyone here know what the purpose of xforcevesa is?
[00:54] <Gnea> Anna_111: were you able to run it okay?
[00:54] <dan___> can anyone help me detect my video capture card?
[00:55] <Lord-Jynx> I have to use that to boot/install
[00:55] <Anna_111> Gnea is it a permission problem? I can chmod to 700
[00:55] <_Linuxx_> dan__ lspci
[00:55] <dan___> ok :)
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  Anna_111
[00:55] <Anna_111> sebsebseb, please
[00:55] <Gnea> Anna_111: nope, worked right out of the box for me... I just had to run it from the commandline - no menu item here either
[00:55] <sebsebseb> Anna_111: what :d ?
[00:55] <Slart> Lord-Jynx: sounds like something that forces X to use vesa instead of some other interface to the graphics card.. but I haven't used it myself so I'm not sure
[00:55] <PVTPETE> doing...
[00:55] <dan___> _Linuxx_: gah its not there
[00:56] <Anna_111> Gnea.. ok , so what should  I do now?
[00:56] <Gnea> sebsebseb: *content!* :)
[00:56] <Lord-Jynx> yeah, it's starting to annoy me :D
[00:56] <_Linuxx_> dan__ lspci is not a command?
[00:56] <Gnea> Anna_111: in the terminal, type this and press enter:  gimp-2.2
[00:56] <sebsebseb> Gnea: wtf, what are you trying to say?
[00:56] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that file permissions are not the problem :)
[00:56] <dan___> _Linuxx_: i typed lspci, the output does not show video capture device
[00:56] <sebsebseb> Gnea: ok
[00:56] <Gnea> sebsebseb: also, can the language, please
[00:57] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 send me a pm if you get frustrated, and i will help you out
[00:57] <_Linuxx_> dan__ is it a pci card? if not, "dmesg | less"
[00:57] <sebsebseb> !pm |  _Linuxx_
[00:57] <Quickflip> How do I upgrade to ubuntu studio ?
[00:57] <Quickflip> Without using a CD
[00:57] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb ... shut up bro...
[00:58] <sebsebseb> _Linuxx_:  and now after getting the bot to do that,  sometimes it can be good to pm people
[00:58] <Lord-Jynx> ah, xforcevesa appears to be safe graphics mode
[00:58] <Veinor> anybody in here use terminator for their terminal?
[00:58] <dr_willis> ubuntu studio is just a bunch of default packages i thought.
[00:58] <dan___> _Linuxx_ it is. the funny thing is my pc used to detect it without a hitch - then i reinstalled intrepid by upgrading from hardy
[00:58] <Slart> !upgrade  | Quickflip , I think there might be something useful here
[00:58] <Izinucs> Quickflip: ubuntu studio is not an upgrade.. it mirrors ubuntu with added packages not available in ubuntu
[00:58] <dr_willis> Veinor,  yes. all the time. :)
[00:58] <dr_willis> Veinor,  its my fave.
[00:58] <Gnea> !language | _Linuxx_, sebsebseb
[00:58] <Veinor> I'm having problems with links.
[00:58] <_Linuxx_> gnea cut it out.. that bot is annoying...
[00:58] <Veinor> If they don't start with http://, I can't ctrl-click them to open them. Works fine in gnome-terminal
[00:58] <Anna_111> gnea: 1. Error shows on screen  2. splash screen says gimpshop and then Gimp opens
[00:58] <Izinucs> Quickflip: check out their site and you'll figure out how to add their repos and get what they've got.
[00:58] <_Linuxx_> dan__ what about the live cd?
[00:58] <Gnea> _Linuxx_: I won't tell you again.
[00:59] <_Linuxx_> gnea serious, your attitude is getting old
[00:59] <Gnea> Anna_111: okay, it's working just fine
[00:59] <Quickflip> k thanks
[00:59] <Veinor> dr_willis: any advice?
[00:59] <sebsebseb> _Linuxx_: I got a feeling Gnea might be a n op
[00:59] <dan___> _Linuxx_ : ?? i dont have a live cd. i installed from alternate install cd
[00:59] <dr_willis> Veinor,  i never bother with the links, sorry.
[00:59] <Veinor> bleh
[00:59] <Anna_111> Gnea but the screen says it's The Gimp     .. lol am I getting Gimp or Gimpshop?
[01:00] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb dont care, if hes going to kick me, then kick me, so goes my free help...
[01:00] <situbesteak> hello everyone. can somebody help me install the drivers for my graphics card
[01:00] <sebsebseb> _Linuxx_: calm down :)
[01:00] <Veinor> tbqh I find that the bot gets overused
[01:00] <_Linuxx_> dan__ do you have knoppix or some other live cd
[01:00] <Veinor> but this isn't the time or the place
[01:00] <joetheodd> Which driver was it that can play audio from multiple programs at once?
[01:00] <Anna_111> and why am I getting the error on terminal, gnea?
[01:00] <Gnea> Anna_111: heh, well I'm getting a different splashscreen as well... and according to the site ( http://plasticbugs.com/ ), it's just a set of scripts to enhance its use
[01:00] <dan___> _Linuxx_ they all got corrupted i am starting anew
[01:00] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb im calm.. just sick of the attitudes.
[01:00] <Slart> joetheodd: pulseaudio? or alsa i
[01:01] <Veinor> aha, figured out why
[01:01] <dan___> _Linuxx_ maybe i should try with xp no?
[01:01] <_Linuxx_> dan__ nooooooo!
[01:01] <_Linuxx_> dan__ :-P
[01:01] <Gnea> Anna_111: like this?  /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print: error while loading shared libraries: libgimpprint.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:01] <melrockz> How would I uninstall something I have compiled from source?
[01:01] <dan___> _Linuxx_ to see if xp can detect hardware
[01:01] <Slart> melrockz: depends.. usually "sudo make uninstall" works
[01:01] <melrockz> thanks
[01:01] <dan___> _Linuxx_ if not then it is hardware problem right?
[01:01] <Slart> melrockz: but that's if whoever wrote the software implemented it
[01:02] <sebsebseb> dan___: I have missed your stuff, what's your problem?
[01:02] <_Linuxx_> dan__ try this, "dmesg | more" and see if you cant see it there
[01:02] <Anna_111> Gnea yes that error
[01:02] <melrockz> oh... otherwise?
[01:02] <dan___> sebsebseb: basically video capture card detection - i have new install from hardy upgraded to intrepid
[01:02] <Gnea> Anna_111: well, if I run this:  ldd /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print  I see that it's not linking to libgimpprint.so
[01:02] <ddevnull> guys, do u know if that bug on ubuntu 8.10, about SAMBA not accessing windows sharing with passwords persists? I've found a solution, but it doesn't seems good
[01:02] <sebsebseb> dan___: oh right xorg issues or whatever.  you mean graphics card?
[01:03] <Anna_111>  gnea: : http://pastebin.com/m26f913a8
[01:03] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb, no he has a capture card
[01:04] <Lord-Jynx> does anyone know a down-side of using xforcevesa and vga=xxx in the grub boot?
 Anna_111: well, if I run this:  ldd /usr/local/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/print  I see that it's not linking to libgimpprint.so      gnea what does it mean for me?
[01:05] <zelda> hello everyone.
[01:05] <dan___> sebsebseb no its  a capture card
[01:05] <dan___> _Linuxx_ really isnt there
[01:05] <zelda> Im looking for a movie tagging program for ubuntu. Any ideas?
[01:05] <_lowercase> hello princess zelda
[01:05] <_Linuxx_> dan__ and it worked before the upgrade?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> zelda:  remind me what movie tagging is, if I even knew
[01:06] <situbesteak> Hello. Can somebody tell me what program to open .run files with. It is a ati driver
[01:06] <sebsebseb> _lowercase: zelda is female?
[01:06] <zelda> you know how  you can "tag" your music files...
[01:06] <Gnea> Anna_111: well if yours is setup like mine is (I'm willing to bet so), then you probably don't have a libgimpprint.so anywhere on the system... sooo, the only way to get rid of the error is to find it
[01:06] <situbesteak> tag and rename to tag music files
[01:06] <_lowercase> in the game: yes
[01:06] <zelda> well can you do that to movie files? .avi .mp4?
[01:06] <dan___> _Linuxx_ it worked in my previous intrepid install - all my intrepid cds got borked so i installed hardy then upgraded to intrepid
[01:06] <dan___> _Linuxx_ thanks man. i will be right back :)
[01:06] <_Linuxx_> dan__ hum...
[01:06] <Dreamglider> is there a key i can press while insterting cd/usb and have it not mount ?
[01:07] <zelda> You know to display the movie picture and get the year it was made etc.
[01:07] <zelda> ?
[01:07] <_lowercase> zelda: i don't think so, it's embedded in the mp3 file format
[01:07] <sebsebseb> zelda: can Banshee do it hummmmm
[01:07] <gartral> situbesteak: you need to logout, ctrl-alt too a virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-F2) and then sudo /path/to/drivers.run
[01:07] <zelda> you know like iTag?
[01:08] <nicros_> is there a good AutoCad type program for Linux/Ubuntu?
[01:08] <LurkersA> QCad
[01:08] <_Linuxx_> !cad
[01:08] <gartral> situbesteak: you need to logout, ctrl-alt too a virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-F2) kill the x server and then sudo /path/to/drivers.run (sorry)
[01:08] <sebsebseb> zelda: Banshee it seems can show loads of tags if you tell it to
[01:08] <_Linuxx_> !qcad
[01:08] <Gnea> Anna_111: figured it out.  1) sudo apt-get install gimp-gutenprint 2) sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libgutenprint.so.1 /usr/lib/libgimpprint.so.1 && sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libgimpprint.so.1 /usr/lib/libgimpprint.so && sudo ldconfig 3) run gimp-2.2 again
[01:08] <LurkersA> nicros_: QCad is very good
[01:08] <xubuser> Hello People.
[01:08] <zelda> yeah but you dont play movie files with banshee
[01:08] <nicros_> Thanks, i'll check it out.
[01:08] <sebsebseb> zelda: lol yes you do
[01:08] <nicros_> Wish they would port AutoCad to Linux
[01:08] <_Linuxx_> xubuser hey
[01:08] <sebsebseb> zelda: you play  movie and  video files with Banshee
[01:09] <Anna_111> Gnea: basically if I type gimp or gimp-2.2 I get the same splash screen that says gimpshop based on Gimp. Hpwever, in case of Gimp my command prompt does not come back after repeated ENTER whereas in case of gimp-2.2 it comes back after I hit enter 3 -4 times.
[01:09] <_Linuxx_> nicros_ did you try wine?
[01:09] <nicros_> yes
[01:09] <zelda> you know what im talking about right? Like music the album art... ?
[01:09] <sebsebseb> zelda: and your on 8.10?
[01:09] <xubuser> so updating to Jaunty via update-manager -d will overwrite all the stuff like wallpapers and gtk themes?
[01:09] <Anna_111> Gnea: also the wrror is the same in both cases
[01:09] <zelda> I use VLC
[01:09] <_Linuxx_> nicros_ no dice?
[01:09] <sebsebseb> zelda: yes  banshee can show album art
[01:09] <ddevnull> Hey Guys, do u know if that bug on ubuntu 8.10, about SAMBA not accessing windows sharing with passwords persists? I've found a solution, but it doesn't seems good
[01:09] <nicros_> haven't tried CrossoverLinux yet though
[01:09] <Gnea> Anna_111: try running it like this then:   gimp-2.2 &
[01:09] <zelda> for movie titles or is it just music?
[01:09] <Anna_111> in the bg?
[01:09] <keepsake> xubuser: No.
[01:09] <Anna_111> ok
[01:09] <Gnea> Anna_111: yup
[01:09] <keepsake> xubuser: All your user settings are kept.
[01:10] <zelda> Im going to try.
[01:10] <sebsebseb> zelda: not sure,    but either way vlc is nice yes, but banshee is nice as well
[01:10] <xubuser> keepsake: so, only thing changes is the OS. The login theme remains unchanged, right?
[01:10] <xubuser> cool
[01:10] <Veinor> Dreamglider: ... apparently there are two terminal clients named Terminator
[01:10] <sebsebseb> zelda: that is if your on 8.10.  if your on hardy you get a rubbish version of banshee unless you do the ppa
[01:10] <keepsake> xubuser: It should remain unchanged; It did for me.
[01:10] <keepsake> xubuser: (remain unchanged, that is)
[01:10] <zelda> DOH!
[01:10] <xubuser> keepsake: thanks. :)
[01:10] <zelda> im not on 8.10
[01:10] <sebsebseb> zelda: your on 8.04?
[01:10] <zelda> yes
[01:11] <keepsake> xubuser: No problem.
[01:11] <sebsebseb> zelda: ok  well  you can have the good version if you do the ppa as I said
[01:11] <Dreamglider> Veinor: !
[01:11] <Veinor> yeah.
[01:11] <zelda> ppa?
[01:11] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[01:11] <Veinor> it's messed up
[01:11] <zelda> ah, ok thanks.
[01:11] <Anna_111> Gnea: that's solved. Now, when *you* open your gimpshop do you get a Splash screen that says Gimpshop based on Gimp and does your top bar shows The Gimp or The Gimpshop?
[01:11] <zelda> I might just update to 8.10
[01:11] <Veinor> i mean, the first thing I do when I get an idea for a project is google search to see if someone else already came up with that idea and used that name
[01:12] <rreyes> Hi all... Why is Ubuntu's Gnome menu so different to OpenSuse's Gnome Menu?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> zelda: https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[01:12] <sebsebseb> rreyes: ,because they are two completly different distros
[01:12] <stduseren> because suse is for pusses
[01:12] <sebsebseb> zelda: well 9.04 at the end  of april and maybe you got to upgrade through 8.10 first
[01:13] <Veinor> I plan on having a 9.04 launch party. Nothing like drunk distro upgrading :P
[01:13] <zelda> sebsebseb: Awesome!
[01:13] <sebsebseb> zelda: oh and you would have to clean install for Ext4  it seems.   and  jaunty stuff is off topic here
[01:13] <rreyes> sebsebseb: But aren't both using Gnome?
[01:13] <zelda> thanks for the help
[01:13] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[01:13] <liuxin> 能用汉语么
[01:13] <keepsake> !zh | liuxin
[01:13] <sebsebseb> rreyes: not sure about suse, but it will be gnome or kde
[01:13] <_lowercase> Veinor: lol cool!
[01:13] <finiras> how do i prevent ubuntu from just mounting the usb stick over and over again? when i unmount it?
[01:13] <zelda> Well, i wont be using 9.04 yet....
[01:13] <Gnea> Anna_111: gimp-2.2 shows the Gimpshop - and what's happened is, is that the new .deb package has taken /usr/bin/gimp symlink away and put it in /usr/local/bin, so now the default gimp is broken
[01:14] <Veinor> _lowercase: just kidding, I'm under 21 :(
[01:14] <Veinor> that'd be pretty funny though
[01:14] <nicros_> Thanks LurkersA QCad looks great.
[01:14] <Veinor> and nerdy as can be
[01:14] <rreyes> sebsebseb: I tried the gnome version. It is pretty different from Ubuntu's. I was wondering if there is someway to imitate their menu from Ubuntu
[01:14] <_lowercase> ohhhh, nothing like drunk videogaming
[01:14] <sebsebseb> rreyes: sure you can probably customize it to look like suse
[01:14] <Anna_111> Gnea: How can I uninstall the gimpshop and reinstall gimp? and is there a ubuntu Gimpshop?
[01:15] <hunus> folks...how I mount de floppy?
[01:15] <sebsebseb> !mount
[01:15] <finiras> how do i stop automounting of usb sticks?
[01:15] <joetheodd> How do you figure out local IP from xterm?
[01:15] <sebsebseb> !usb
[01:15] <sebsebseb> !fstab
[01:16] <liuxin> anyone here?
[01:16] <sebsebseb> liuxin: nope no one is here!
[01:16] <joetheodd> liuxin, no
[01:16] <rreyes> sebsebseb: Any idea how to do that?
[01:17] <finiras> my problem is sebsebseb, the usb stick keeps mounting even when i unmount it
[01:17] <finiras> right after unmounting it just mounts again
[01:17] <sebsebseb> rreyes: no, but you can maybe find a theme on gnome-look.org etc
[01:17] <sebsebseb> !themes
[01:17] <Guest67753> hi all just t3sting ipod irc :)
[01:17] <melrockz> Hey... my apt on CD program just crashes when reading the package files (288MB) in the apt cache. What could be wrong? (Hint: APTonCD uses a lot of physical memory; memory usage tops at 98% when it crashes. I have 760MB RAM.)
[01:17] <sebsebseb> !changethemes
[01:17] <_lowercase> hey I'm on my ipod too
[01:18] <_lowercase> what r u using?
[01:18] <Guest67753> it works better than expected
[01:18] <sebsebseb> _lowercase: who is what?  using?
[01:18] <liuxin> yes,I have the problem to. When I umount the mp3, I have to shutdown the pc.
[01:18] <hunus> anyone knows how to mount de floppy??
[01:18] <Guest67753> console based app called weechat
[01:18] <verma> hello all, I am trying to tripple boot my macbook pro .. I installed rEFIt but when I restart my computer, the menu doesn't show up .. has anyone seen this problem before :(
[01:18] <sebsebseb> liuxin: unmount the MP3's?????
[01:18] <Anna_111> Gnea: How can I uninstall the gimpshop and reinstall gimp? and is there a ubuntu Gimpshop?
[01:18] <rreyes> sebsebseb: I think it isn't just a theme thing. The menu acts very different
[01:19] <sebsebseb> rreyes: well first of all find out if it's running Gnome or KDE
[01:19] <Gnea> Anna_111: one sec...
[01:19] <Anna_111> ok gnea
[01:19] <liuxin> yes,after umount it,it is still there.
[01:19] <bigrigger> hunus: sudo modprobe floppy
[01:19] <Guest67753> what are you using?
[01:19] <rreyes> sebsebseb: It is running Gnome for sure
[01:19] <_lowercase> sorry I was talking to Guest67753 but I'ts kinda hard to copy-paste usernames here
[01:19] <LurkersA> hunus: 'sudo mkdir /media/floppy' then 'sudo mount /dev/fdd0 /media/floppy' ?
[01:19] <liuxin> so I have to shutdown the pc
[01:19] <sebsebseb> liuxin:  unmount mp3's what?????   put them in home?
[01:19] <_lowercase> @Guest67753: ohhhh cool!
[01:19] <Laurenceb> can I install google earth on AMD64?
[01:20] <Dillizar> !brasero
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: yeah
[01:20] <Gnea> Anna_111: this will put everything back in place:  sudo apt-get remove gimpshop
[01:20] <Laurenceb> how?
[01:20] <gartral> sebsebseb: i *think* he means an mp3 player, or properly DAP
[01:20] <LurkersA> Laurenceb: Probably, have you checked the medibuntu repos?
[01:20] <Laurenceb> ok
[01:20] <Dillizar> can brasero burn a .mdf?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: find out from Google where you get it from, and find out how to install a .bin ,because it's in that stupid .bin format I think
[01:20] <_lowercase> @Guest67753: i'm using rooms and on the terminal i use bitchx
[01:20] <melrockz> Hey... my apt on CD program just crashes when reading the package files (288MB) in the apt cache. What could be wrong? (Hint: APTonCD uses a lot of physical memory; memory usage tops at 98% when it crashes. I have 760MB RAM.)
[01:21] <Anna_111> Gnea: ok.. I will want to know after this how I can reinstall Gimpshop
[01:21] <Guest67753> ive heard of bitchx bunot of rooms what is that?
[01:21] <hunus> and how I mount the floppy??
[01:22] <_lowercase> rooms just disconnect without previous notice sometimes but it's ok
[01:22] <LurkersA> hunus: 'sudo mkdir /media/floppy' then 'sudo mount /dev/fdd0 /media/floppy' ?
[01:23] <_lowercase> @Guest67753: search for "rooms" on the app store, it's great
[01:23] <Guest67753> prob with the term is messeges scrolll up quickly and u miss them
[01:23] <_lowercase> @Guest67753: yeah, this is far easier
[01:23] <Lord-Jynx> does anyone know a down-side of using xforcevesa and vga=xxx in the grub boot?
[01:23] <Anna_111> gnea: ok removed gimpshop, gimp is back. NOW, how can I have a better install of gimpshop?
[01:23] <Lord-Jynx> and/or know the purpose of them?
[01:23] <bigrigger> Guest67753: type /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits
[01:24] <Guest67753> i think il go get it thx
[01:24] <cjae> what is  the program under ubuntu not it other window manager equivalents eg. kde or xfce, that lets you mount your windows paritions from ubuntu
[01:24] <D3ebaby> hi
[01:24] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 why gimpshop?
[01:24] <D3ebaby> hi
[01:24] <cjae> -it + its
[01:24] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 is gimp not working for you?
[01:24] <Anna_111> _Linuxx_, I want test it. :)
[01:24] <Guest67753> cu _lowercase
[01:25] <liuxin> what?
[01:25] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 bah... gimp > gimpshop
[01:25] <liuxin> mp3?
[01:25] <_lowercase> @Guest67753: c ya!
[01:25] <Anna_111> _Linuxx_, that's not relvant. I use CS2 otherwise. I want to see what Gimpshop can do.
[01:25] <Gnea> Anna_111: I would contact the author via email or blog comment and see about obtaining the source tree and re-making the package yourself
[01:26] <cjae> !mountmanager
[01:26] <Anna_111> Gnea: thanks. I will do that.
[01:26] <cjae> !info mountmanager
[01:26] <liuxin> would you like to see fictions in pc?
[01:26] <cjae> is that the gnome one?
[01:27] <melrockz> !aptoncd
[01:27] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 ive never used gimpshop. ive always used gimp.. i wouldn't even know the difference unless i googled it
[01:27] <melrockz> http://melrockz.pastebin.com/m5fc5cf97
[01:28] <Stargazer> I'm installing Ubuntu server and it's asking what the server will be for. I'm only going to use it to script some programs and compile them, what do i set the server as ?
[01:28] <XPS_M1330> is there a better DVD Ripper than acidrip?
[01:28] <Anna_111> _Linuxx_, I have used Gimp and CS2 both. But I read Gimpshop is more like photoshop than gimp is. So, I want to test it.
[01:28] <Gnea> XPS_M1330: dvd::rip
[01:28] <sebsebseb> Stargazer: you don't need Ubuntu server for that
[01:29] <sebsebseb> Stargazer: you can use the desktop edition and then put that stuff in it
[01:29] <Anna_111> Stargazer: Do you want a server or do you need a server?
[01:29] <melrockz> which is the best frontend to mencoder?
[01:29] <mylisto> has anyone ever gotten audio to record in recordmydesktop????
[01:29] <Gnea> Stargazer: sounds like programming
[01:29] <_lowercase> hey! I need a working serial for 8.10, anyone?
[01:29] <XPS_M1330> Gnea: is it really better?
[01:29] <Tonren> Does anyone know of a good way to change userContent.css and userChrome.css to work with dark GTK themes in GNOME?  I've Googled around but nothing seems to work right.
[01:29] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 i never really saw what your original problem was in installing it. gnea seems to have me tied up with his "life lessons"
[01:29] <Stargazer> Sebsebseb, Anna_111, it's not really that's it's gonna be an actual server, just a CLI based programming station.
[01:29] <Lord-Jynx> working serial?
[01:29] <Gnea> XPS_M1330: works for me... try it and see if you like it
[01:29] <sebsebseb> _lowercase: this is not Windows we don't have serial numbers, we do however have md5sum codes
[01:29] <_lowercase> LOL!
[01:29] <Anna_111> lol
[01:30] <Gnea> heh
[01:30] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb i think it was a joke bro
[01:30] <_lowercase> I really appreciate how helpful is people here
[01:30] <sebsebseb> _Linuxx_: yeah probably, but anyway :d
[01:30] <Gnea> oh man
[01:30] <Anna_111> Stargazer: I installed 8.10 to learn shell scripting and perl
[01:30] <hunus> not work
[01:30] <_Linuxx_> sebsebseb lol
[01:30] <XPS_M1330> Gnea:  I mean, have you tried acidrip? I think I tried dvdrip on mandriva and I ended up using acidrip instead, don't remember clearly though
[01:30] <sebsebseb> and I joked back mentining Windows
[01:30] <bigrigger> hunus: sudo modprobe floppy
[01:31] <_lowercase> I could have been killed for less in #linux
[01:31] <Gnea> XPS_M1330: I did, a long time ago... and I don't really count mandriva, since it's an rpm-based distro :)
[01:31] <Lord-Jynx> haha
[01:31] <melrockz> Anyone knows the manual way to build a .iso file of an APT CD? my aptoncd program does not work.
[01:31] <XPS_M1330> Gnea: what's wront with RPMs?
[01:31] <wanna_learn_more> ikonia:still rhere?
[01:31] <Anna_111> _lowercase, drawn,quartered, and hung to dry
[01:31] <sebsebseb> !alien
[01:31] <Gnea> XPS_M1330: a discussion that's better left for another time, another place :)
[01:32] <XPS_M1330> right...
[01:33] <wanna_learn_more> anyone know ncurses package for ubuntu?
[01:33] <wanna_learn_more> !ncurses
[01:33] <Gnea> XPS_M1330: basically it's a broken system that's bandaided together - the .deb system is solid and robust. at any rate, I haven't used acidrip in a long time, so maybe I'll try it again soon
[01:34] <XPS_M1330> ok thanks!
[01:34] <zelda> be back
[01:35] <XPS_M1330> what's w32codecs
[01:35] <XPS_M1330> !w32codecs
[01:35]  * nel is away: Gone away for now
[01:35] <Gnea> !away | nel
[01:35] <XPS_M1330> Yakuake rules!
[01:35]  * nel is back.
[01:37] <alien_> ubuntu 8.10, I cant edit top and bottom taskbars, when I right click on them I have only 2 options as "help" and "about panels" any ideas how to fix this?
[01:37] <XPS_M1330> what's ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[01:39] <Dreamglider> how can i avoid braking ubuntu boot loader when installing Windows
[01:39] <_Linuxx_> freamglider you cant
[01:39] <_Linuxx_> freamglider you have to repair grub after you install
[01:39] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: Windows will overwrite your first or only hard disks,  MBR,  and that's the way it is, nothing you can do about that
[01:40] <sebsebseb> !grub
[01:40] <schnauzer> Dreamglider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351will tell you how to fix GRUB from your live cd
[01:40] <_Linuxx_> dreamglider i said your name wrong...
[01:40] <Dreamglider> _Linuxx_: indeed you did _Finuxx_ :P
[01:41] <_Linuxx_> dreamglider from schnauzer's link, its not that hard of a process...
[01:41] <_Linuxx_> dreamglider sorry.! :-P
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: Finuxx     Finnish  Unix? :D
[01:41] <Preplexed> hi
[01:41] <Dreamglider> yes
[01:42] <sebsebseb> Preplexed: well  hi there,  how may we be of assitance,  next time you want to cross the road!
[01:42] <stooj> Hi Preplexed
[01:42] <Preplexed> hi all
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Preplexed
[01:42] <Preplexed> sorry still weir out about how that happened
[01:42] <XPS_M1330> what's that command that displays processes and gives you the number to kill
[01:43] <schnauzer> top
[01:43] <Anna_111> XPS_M1330: ps
[01:43] <Nasra> Hi there, how do I check an application to see if it's been installed and ready to go?
[01:43] <Nasra> I am new
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Nasra: in synaptic it's green
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Nasra: if installed
[01:43] <Nasra> yes
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Nasra: on command line:  sudo apt-get install programname
[01:43] <Preplexed> i am using sound juicer to extract a cd so i can put it on my mp3 but all wat happens is the disk turns and nothing else so what could the issue be?
[01:44] <schnauzer> XPS_M1330: or htop, if you have it installed
[01:44] <Veinor> bleh... how much stuff uses xdg-open?
[01:44] <Nasra> sebsebseb: thanks
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Nasra: it will tell you  if it's installed. and you can run the command again, and it would say already installed
[01:44] <Anna_111> schnauzer: top does not give PID
[01:44] <Nasra> sebsebseb: thanks
[01:44] <XPS_M1330> is htop for hypertop?
[01:44] <Anna_111> schnauzer: top does not give PID    but ps does
[01:44] <melrockz> emerald does not work on Ubuntu 8.10? The theme does not change.
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yes new, but what are you installing?  in  fact   pm me if you want to know about good packages (programs) to install
[01:44] <Veinor> XPS_M1330: as far as I know the h doesn't stand for anything, but I still recommend you install it
[01:45] <Veinor> it's better than top
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, it does work.. you are most likely still using the gtk-window-decorator
[01:45] <schnauzer> Anna_111: ah... that it does...
[01:45] <XPS_M1330> veinor: I do have it. it's neat!
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, in a terminal do "emerald --replace& exit"
[01:45] <Nasra> sebsebseb: okay
[01:45] <melrockz> yes, it is metacity now. How do i change it?
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, or install fusion-icon
[01:46] <Anna_111> XPS_M1330: ps     will give PID and then to kill the process you type kill -9 PID (PID is the process number)
[01:46] <anubis> good evening everyone
[01:46] <XPS_M1330> Anna_111: but ps doesn't display anything bu bash and ps
[01:47] <Anna_111> XPS_M1330: are ou running any other processes?
[01:47] <shade34321> i upgraded the other night to 9.04 and now flash doesn't work. Yet when I try to install the flash player it already states it's installed....any idea?
[01:47] <XPS_M1330> if I'm in a chat room, I must be!
[01:47] <pietrubens> hello all... i am a complete noob and willing to convert away from windows... however i could use some easy literature explainging KDE/KUBUNUT/UBUNTU/LINUX etc. what is it, how it works, etc. Most sites and articles that i've read they explain one thing, using examples of others, thus i am back to square one. Any links or titles worth checking out?
[01:47] <Anna_111> XPS_M1330: I am in this chat room with my vista laptop :)
[01:47] <Anna_111> XPS_M1330 do a man -ps
[01:47] <schnauzer> XPS_M1330: i think ps only works on the applications you are running from that particular terminal window; if you do "gedit &" and then "ps", you will see gedit listed.
[01:47] <XPS_M1330> right.
[01:48] <XPS_M1330> I guess that must be it. top seems to work fine, though
[01:48] <XPS_M1330> what's gedit & ?
[01:48] <schnauzer> XPS_M1330: however; top gives a lot more info and allows you to kill a process from within it
[01:49] <XPS_M1330> wow & runs an app out of the terminal? that's good to know!
[01:49] <schnauzer> XPS_M1330: It basically tells the terminal window to run gedit in the background, allowing you to run more than one program from each terminal window
[01:49] <_Linuxx_> xps_m1330 "ps ax"
[01:49] <schnauzer> XPS_M1330: And yes, it is quite nice
[01:49] <Veinor> XPS_M1330: It just detaches it; if you close the terminal you'll still kill the app
[01:49] <melrockz> still no change... emerald
[01:49] <riegersn1> im trying to mount a nfs partition and getting "you might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)"
[01:49] <Anna_111> XPS_M1330: type ps -e
[01:49] <riegersn1> can anyone help me out >
[01:49] <riegersn1> ?
[01:49] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 sure can
[01:50] <schnauzer> !ask | riegersn1
[01:50] <Preplexed> pietrubens have you done a google or looked at unbunto.com or linux formatt?#
[01:50] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, and you have an emerald theme installed?
[01:50] <shade34321> i upgraded the other night to 9.04 and now flash doesn't work. Yet when I try to install the flash player it already states it's installed....any idea?
[01:50] <Preplexed> oops format
[01:50] <Veinor> shade34321: 9.04 discussion goes in #ubuntu+1
[01:50] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, you would need at least one
[01:50] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[01:50] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: i had it working on but reinstalled my os, and saved the fstab config lines for it
[01:50] <melrockz> yes 2 themes, Black crystal and vista experience.
[01:50] <Paddy_EIRE> yuk
[01:51] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: everything is set up the same, i can ping the host box
[01:51] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, do "emerald --replace" in a terminal
[01:51] <Dillizar> i cant seem to find libqt4-webkit
[01:51] <melrockz> emerald lacks the fetch themes option in the 8.10 version.
[01:51] <Dillizar> help :)
[01:51] <melrockz> yes, I've done that.
[01:51] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, make sure you are not typing in the quotes as well
[01:51] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 wait, what?
[01:52] <melrockz> well... i know that!
[01:52] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[01:52] <riegersn1> im trying to mount a nfs partition and getting "you might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)"
[01:52] <pietrubens> @prepelexed: i have done many searches, but the thing is: if i try to read an article about one thing, it uses the others in reference, thus confusing me even more. i am looking for something that will explain me things clearly, without refering to other, unknown things.
[01:52] <Paddy_EIRE> melrockz, hmm.. is the window decorator enabled on ccsm?
[01:53] <n8tuserf> pietrubens -> you just have to deal with it, print a hard copy and you will not get bother by links
[01:53] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 paste the error here... then send me the link    http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:53] <Dillizar> !acetoneiso
[01:54] <Dillizar> i cant seem to find libqt4-webkit or can somebody tell me how to install acetoneISO
[01:54] <darlylaptop> good evening
[01:54] <pietrubens> @n8tuserf ???? when i said linking, i did not meant in the "internet" way, i meant linked in their terminology
[01:54] <darlylaptop> i have installed on my laptop ubuntu with xfce desktop
[01:54] <darlylaptop> along wondows vista
[01:55] <n8tuserf> pietrubens -> if you have not picked up on it yet, thats how most books are, referencing other books.. so really you have to accept thats how things are
[01:55] <doctormo> I need help with a computer with an intel onboard graphics card and an old monitor, the resolution is wrong and the computer can't detect the resolution
[01:55] <doctormo> I need a program that I can use to set the possible resolutions
[01:55] <lightdragon> okay.... is this the right place to ask about repositories for apt?
[01:55] <doctormo> lightdragon: sure
[01:56] <lightdragon> cool
[01:56] <UnderTaker> Why does ubuntu bog down with High Disk I/O yet i have a dual core CPU?
[01:56] <n8tuserf> pietrubens -> for myself, i would not pay orielly because they get you with this kind of trap, incomplete info, available only if you buy another book they sell
[01:56] <zaccour> how come the ppc version of Ubuntu is so flawed?
[01:56] <zaccour> it dont even play dvds'
[01:56] <meoblast001> hi
[01:56] <UnderTaker> zaccour, do you have the codecs installed?
[01:56] <dr_willis> !ppc
[01:56] <meoblast001> what is the name of the program that makes USB installers of Ubuntu?
[01:57] <dr_willis> Its a communioty port.. such is life.
[01:57] <darlylaptop> how to find the the windows folder on xubuntu
[01:57] <Preplexed> pietrubs give me a minuet i look for a online book for you
[01:57] <lightdragon> okay so i'm trying to install the repository that i found for the boost programming library at packages.debian.org but i'm really new to this apt thing, and it keeps telling me it can't find the package i'm trying to install
[01:57] <meoblast001> i'm currently in fluxbox and i need to launch it to make a new USB installer
[01:57] <n8tuserf> meoblast001 -> what do you mean usb installer?
[01:57] <pietrubens> @n8tuserf: that's why i am asking around about some good, decent literature, instead of having do with very confusing stuff
[01:57] <lightdragon> how do i get it to find it?
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> meoblast001, that tool is normally part of gnome
[01:57] <meoblast001> n8tuserf: i want to launch Ubuntu live CD off a flash drive so i can reinstall on this laptop with no CD drive
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> meoblast001, search the repos
[01:57] <lightdragon> i already added deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main to sources.list
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> meoblast001, apt-cache search
[01:58] <darlylaptop> hello
[01:58] <meoblast001> Paddy_EIRE: it should be in Gnome's System > Admin i think
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> meoblast001, yes
[01:58] <UnderTaker> meoblast001, try unetbootin
[01:58] <meoblast001> Paddy_EIRE: i'm just in Fluxbox because it takes to long to get into Gnome
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[01:58] <darlylaptop> i want to know how to find the windows folder on xubuntu
[01:58] <zaccour> UnderTaker, i have totem-xine installed, on my computer it works just fine
[01:58] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: i tried that.... it failed.. maybe my flash drive is broke... idk
[01:58] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: my bios says missing os
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> meoblast001, I dont know the command to lauch it
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[01:59] <UnderTaker> meoblast001, than maybe your computer cant boot from flash drives than
[01:59] <n8tuserf> pietrubens -> may i suggest a book by mark sobell
[01:59] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: it can
[01:59] <Appocc> why, when i change /etc/network/interfaces to eth0 or wlan0 to dhcp, my connections are deactivates on network manager???? i neet to turn dhcp active, but when i do it in interfaces file, my network-anager dun let me connect.. could anybod help me???
[01:59] <A-KO> So I'm having a weird issue here..I've switched my lamp server to ubuntu, but when I set my webdir to not have the execute bit, apache will not serve up the webpage (php, Joomla). I found this kind of odd, but didn't think much of it until I realized my ftp config on my previous server turned off execute on uploaded files. Does anyone have any insight to this?
[01:59] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: i've done it many times before
[01:59] <codeuser> Hey
[01:59] <codeuser> Just wondering....
[01:59] <UnderTaker> meoblast001, How big is the the thumb drive?
[01:59] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132795/
[01:59] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 looking
[01:59] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: i've been trying to get Debian on my system for programming reasons (a bug in Ubuntu)... but i guess i'll have to settle for Ubuntu
[01:59] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: 1 gig
[02:00] <codeuser> does anyone happen to know if it is possible to make emerald do vista style blurring on an aero glass theme?
[02:00] <schnauzer> meoblast001: I think you need at least 2 gigs for Ubuntu
[02:00] <n8tuserf> meoblast001 -> i tried that myself, but i discovered, it works in one laptop but not on others, so not sure why it does not launch on other laptop as usb live
[02:00] <zaccour> is there an html irc chat i can put on a website?
[02:00] <Preplexed> pietrubens try search Ubuntu Pocket Guide and Reference
[02:00] <UnderTaker> no I can fit ubuntu live on my 1gig flash drive fine
[02:00] <Appocc> why, when i change /etc/network/interfaces to eth0 or wlan0 to dhcp, my connections are deactivates on network manager???? i neet to turn dhcp active, but when i do it in interfaces file, my network-anager dun let me connect.. could anybod help me???
[02:00] <meoblast001> n8tuserf: i've done it in the past when it had to be done manually
[02:00] <meoblast001> n8tuserf: it's a pain though
[02:01] <UnderTaker> meoblast001, Try redownloading the ubuntu Iso
[02:01] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: well.... i was previously trying Debian so maybe that's why
[02:01] <schnauzer> meoblast001: or try comparing md5's first
[02:01] <Preplexed> pietrubens have you been to a Linux User Group or LUG
[02:01] <meoblast001> UnderTaker: i should use 8.04 because it doesn't have the bugs i'm trying to avoid
[02:01] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 what put in the "rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr" in your fstab?
[02:01] <darlylaptop> well, i have to go by
[02:01] <n8tuserf> meoblast001 -> i've done it manually, in fresh spanking new hp laptop g60-s337 something.. but wont work on a dell laptop
[02:01] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 boxee is awesome btw
[02:02] <danbhfive> has anyone gotten any alternatives to skype working?
[02:02] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: yes it is, i run boxeehq.com
[02:02] <lightdragon> okay.... another question... I installed Ubuntu 8.04 from inside windows, where it gives you the option of uninstalling at a later date... I quickly decided I preferred ubuntu over windows, and so now I want to get rid of windows... But I'm afraid if I remove windows, I'll lose ubuntu... can i remove windows safely?
[02:02] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: thats how i've always had my fstab set up
[02:02] <UnderTaker> I have to go also be back in a couple hours maybe
[02:02] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: hasn't changed in over a year
[02:02] <Appocc> why, when i change /etc/network/interfaces to eth0 or wlan0 to dhcp, my connections are deactivates on network manager???? i neet to turn dhcp active, but when i do it in interfaces file, my network-anager dun let me connect.. could anybod help me???
[02:02] <danbhfive> lightdragon: I think no
[02:03] <farlig> lightdragon, did you use wubi?
[02:03] <zaccour> is there an html irc chat i can put on a website?
[02:03] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 and for some strange reason it stopped working?
[02:03] <lightdragon> I think it was wubi... but I honestly don't remember... that was a long time ago now
[02:03] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: i reinstalled my os
[02:03] <LogicFan> i wish boxee would release a native 64-bit version.  i've installed the 32-bit version on 64bit intrepid, but its not stable :(
[02:03] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 boxeehq.com drupal?
[02:03] <riegersn1> no
[02:03] <danbhfive> zaccour: try drupal
[02:03] <lightdragon> it's the installer fromthe live disc that i used
[02:04] <riegersn1> wordpress but we are working steadily on a new site. no cms
[02:04] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 remove  "rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr"  and put "defaults  0  0"
[02:04] <danbhfive> lightdragon: can you backup your data, and just install from scratch?
[02:04] <pietrubens> @preplexed... sorry about the long wait to reply, was checking out the ubuntu book, no i haven't yet been to such a group... this chatroom is my first attempt in search for aid on this topic
[02:04] <farlig> lightdragon, if it was wubi it is not possible to remove windows
[02:04] <verma_ii> can I burn the ubuntu disk image to a DVD disk?
[02:04] <farlig> i suggest a full re-installation
[02:04] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 you going to hand write php?
[02:04] <schnauzer> verma_ii: yes
[02:04] <farlig> wubi is not stable anyway
[02:04] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: you better believe it :)
[02:04] <verma_ii> schnauzer, it will let me install ubuntu without problems?
[02:05] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 and whats going on with boxee and hulu?!?!?
[02:05] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 i hand write all my php...
[02:05] <schnauzer> verma_ii: it shouldn't be any different than if you had burned it to a CD-R
[02:05] <verma_ii> schnauzer, awesome .. thanks :)
[02:05] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 old school brotha!
[02:05] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: honestly they are being very open about it, nothing new but what they have said in the blog so far
[02:05] <schnauzer> verma_ii: not a problem
[02:05] <zaccour> danbhfive, where can i find drupal?
[02:05] <lightdragon> crap... okay well i've made windows all but invisible anyway... it's just wasting space on my drive... can I upgrade to 8.10 without having to worry about losses at all?
[02:06] <JulianSSS> hello, I want to make a window sticky on desktop and below (oppsite of allways on top) how can I do this. I use gnome, ubuntu, compiz.
[02:06] <meoblast001> n8tuserf: someone in my loco gave me the name of the package
[02:06] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 i need to make me a boxee box.. i have an old ati all-in-wonder
[02:06] <meoblast001> n8tuserf: i'm trying to see if i can still install Debian with it
[02:06] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: its nice having it always on in the living room, and just ssh'ing into it
[02:07] <cdenny> with the cube in compiz fusion
[02:07] <annaimkonki> hello everyone. i have a sound issue. sound was fine but i think after update it didn't work. ubuntu hardy heron. please help thanks! :)
[02:07] <Anna_111> Gnea: How can find out if I have Perl and which version of Perl I have?
[02:07] <cdenny> how can i set it so when I click the middle button it initiates rotating
[02:07] <danbhfive> zaccour: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=drupal
[02:07] <zaccour> thanks
[02:07] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: i fixed it :) lol
[02:07] <Brent2> I'm getting a white screen when trying to install ubuntu. Someone here recommended that I try the alternate installation and I tried that. I was able to install ubuntu (without the GUI) but i'm getting the white screen when ubuntu tries to boot up into Gnome. is there a way I can just boot up without entering Gnome? So i can then install my video driver through the console?
[02:07] <Preplexed> pietrubeans no prob dude - get to a LUG group friendly people to ask any question to
[02:07] <schnauzer> cdenny: Do you wawnt it to rotate only when you have the mouse over a blank desktop, or also when you are over a window?
[02:08] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 what was it
[02:08] <_Linuxx_> ??
[02:08] <Appocc> why, when i change /etc/network/interfaces to eth0 or wlan0 to dhcp, my connections are deactivates on network manager???? i neet to turn dhcp active, but when i do it in interfaces file, my network-anager dun let me connect.. could anybod help me???
[02:08] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: lol
[02:08] <doctormo> I can't seem to fix this machines xserver, damn thing
[02:08] <cdenny> schnauzer: also when I have over a window (fullscreen apps)
[02:08] <riegersn1> _Linuxx_: sudo apt-get install nfs-common :)
[02:08] <farlig> lightdragon, i had ubuntu 8.04 installed from windows before, but it crashed and e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g got deleted from the drive. i really suggest you make a real installation of ubuntu from scratch... for your own safety..
[02:08] <Appocc> why, when i change /etc/network/interfaces to eth0 or wlan0 to dhcp, my connections are deactivates on network manager???? i neet to turn dhcp active, but when i do it in interfaces file, my network-anager dun let me connect.. could anybod help me???
[02:08] <danbhfive> anyone know of any working alternatives to skype?
[02:09] <Appocc> danbhfive, wich version of linux do u have??
[02:09] <schnauzer> cdenny: now i'm not sure about that one
[02:09] <danbhfive> Appocc: AFAIK, if you configure the card in interfaces, nm will ignore the card.  You have to leave it unconfigured, and do everything in nm
[02:10] <lightdragon> farlig: thanks for the advice... any suggestions on how to do this? Is it possible to create a partition for a copy of ubuntu and then copy everything back over to the fresh install of ubuntu so I don't lose the settings and packages etc?
[02:10] <danbhfive> Appocc: ubuntu?
[02:10] <Brent2> I'm getting a white screen when trying to install ubuntu. Someone here recommended that I try the alternate installation and I tried that. I was able to install ubuntu (without the GUI) but i'm getting the white screen when ubuntu tries to boot up into Gnome. is there a way I can just boot up without entering Gnome? So i can then install my video driver through the console?
[02:10] <Appocc> danbhfive, but man... my dhcp dont work there
[02:10] <_Linuxx_> riegersn1 lol
[02:10] <riegersn1> :)
[02:10] <Appocc> danbhfive, i just got a deb of skype for ubuntu... do u want it?
[02:11] <danbhfive> Appocc: Im looking for an alternative to skype, ie, a program that does video chat that isn't skype
[02:11] <schnauzer> cdenny: I think if you go to the Rotate Cube plugin and set "Initiate" to your middle mouse button, it should work
[02:11] <Anna_111> Gnea: How can find out if I have Perl and which version of Perl I have?
[02:11] <Appocc> danbhfive, hummm.. sry.. cannot help
[02:11] <danbhfive> Brent2: have you tried the ttys?
[02:11] <Appocc> danbhfive, but can u help me??
[02:12] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 "dpkg -l | grep perl"
[02:12] <Anna_111> thanks _Linuxx_
[02:12] <Brent2> whats ttys?
[02:12] <danbhfive> Appocc: I already did, didn't i?
[02:12] <rww> danbhfive: ekiga?
[02:12] <Appocc> danbhfive, no...
[02:12] <danbhfive> !tty | Brent2
[02:12] <Appocc> danbhfive, i neet to put my wireless and ethernet working with dhcp
[02:12] <_Linuxx_> anna_111 sure thing
[02:13] <rww> !ekiga | danbhfive
[02:13] <Brent2> ok
[02:13] <danbhfive> rww: I wish, I never could get it working...  have you got it working before?
[02:13] <rww> danbhfive: not personally, but I know people who have :/
[02:13] <farlig> lightdragon, i'm not sure.. try to make a new partition while in windows (ntfs should work fine) and then backup your important things there. then in the new installation, remove everything but your backup-ntfs-partition
[02:13] <Appocc> danbhfive, when i put dhcp config in nm it cant resolve any ip... i can only connect when i point all adresses
[02:14] <Brent2> will it let you switch to a tty screen if you are at the login screen?
[02:14] <annaimkonki> how can i get sound back? there is no sound on hardy after update.
[02:14] <annaimkonki> ? thanks in advance
[02:14] <lightdragon> farlig: thanks
[02:14] <zaccour> is it possible to put an irc chat on my website?
[02:14] <_Linuxx_> brent2 yes
[02:14] <Brent2> good will try brb
[02:14] <Brent2> thanks
[02:14] <_Linuxx_> brent2  good luck
[02:14] <lightdragon> so if i'm trying to use apt and it tells me a specific deb can't be found, but I know it can, what could I possibly be doing wrong?
[02:15] <farlig> lightdragon, http://www.paragon-software.com/home/pm-express/ Free Partition Manager works fine for windows partitioning
[02:15] <Laurenceb> how do I install a bin file?
[02:15] <MrBarrett> so on my lappy i gave the whole d drive to ubuntu but i only want to give ubuntu about a 10gb partition and leave the rest for vista .... how do i/ can i re partition with ubuntu (8.10) to give me back some ntfs format or something compatible with vista?
[02:15] <danbhfive> zaccour: http://drupal.org/project/modules?text=chat
[02:15] <_Linuxx_> Laurenceb "chmod 777 file.bin" ./file.bin
[02:15] <junior> hey can anyone help me install apache to do a home server? its been a while since ive used ubuntu so i dont even remember how to message one person on here
[02:15] <lightdragon> farlig: oh thanks... I think I'm gonna have to save this project for a rainy day...
[02:15] <MrBarrett> a reliable link to my answer would be fine too :)
[02:15] <_Linuxx_> Laurenceb "chmod 777 file.bin" then "./file.bin"
[02:15] <MrBarrett> sorry im new to ubuntu and a bit lame.... no linux command line experience
[02:16] <mylisto> arggggggggh
[02:16] <Laurenceb> k
[02:16] <Laurenceb> thanks
[02:16] <mylisto> going crazy with recordmydesktop
[02:16] <sandy_> i have problem dual monitor  with nividia 8400gs card in 8.04w
[02:16] <cdenny> when I click the middle button to initiate rotating cube, it only initiates when my cursor is on the background
[02:16] <aspoor> does anyone use ruby on rails?
[02:16] <Reidy> Whenever I try playing WoW, I get to the ToS screen, and I can't see my pointer. Then, a few seconds later...my screen goes nuts and all of a sudden goes pitch black, forcing me to restart my computer.
[02:16] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett .. reading your question... trying to understand it...
[02:17] <aspoor> I can not get WoW to work either.
[02:17] <MrBarrett> whats the confusion?
[02:17] <n8tuserf> MrBarrett -> if you had allowed ubuntu installer the whole shebang, you can not recover that ntfs anymore
[02:17] <sandy_> problem with nivida 8400 gs
[02:17] <mylisto> Anytime I try to use jack as the capture device I get - cannot load the jack library (dlopen/dlsym error on libjac.so)
[02:17] <danbhfive> MrBarrett: do you have the livecd, if so, just boot that, and use gparted
[02:17] <aspoor> this is an Acer laptop with AND Turion 64 duel core
[02:17] <MrBarrett> yes i have the live cd and its installed on d
[02:17] <n8tuserf> !who | MrBarrett
[02:17] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett so you already installed it on D?
[02:18] <fearful> pvtpete, are you there?
[02:18] <Nasra> !tar
[02:18] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett and its only 10g, but you want it to have more?
[02:18] <danbhfive> MrBarrett: boot with the livecd, like you did when installing
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yeah or that :d
[02:18] <MrBarrett> n8tuserf yes i have the live cd and its installed on d
[02:18] <Nasra> !d
[02:18] <gran`> _Linuxx_:  its the whole drive, but he wants it to only be 10gb
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: no as in grin
[02:19] <MrBarrett> d drive
[02:19] <Nasra> okay
[02:19] <_Linuxx_> gran' thanks
[02:19] <gran`> it wont be called d in ubuntu MrBarrett
[02:19] <n8tuserf> MrBarrett -> on linux there are no such thing as D drive anymore
[02:19] <MrBarrett> no it same once d though
[02:19] <n8tuserf> !who | MrBarrett
[02:20] <pvtpete> hi. Please thank fearful for me - was of great help. Problem fixed :)
[02:20] <_Linuxx_> MrBarrett i would just reinstall ubuntu if you dont have it all the way installed. If you dont want to do that, then i would use "http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php"
[02:20] <mylisto> damn...driving me crazy
[02:20] <Gnimsh> hi folks
[02:20] <cdenny> when I click the middle button to initiate rotating cube, it only initiates when my cursor is on the background
[02:20] <MrBarrett> will ubuntu let me patition a vista compatible format
[02:20] <danbhfive> cdenny: maybe tryy #compiz
[02:21] <mylisto> has ANYONE gotten recordmydesktop to work with sound?????
[02:21] <cdenny> danbhfive: i am, only one guy is there
[02:21] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett no, just dont use that space. leave it unused. then go back into vista, and claim that unused space
[02:21] <Gnimsh> I installed 9.04 alpha over the weekend, and had the same problem with it as I did with 8.10, that is, my webcam does not work.  I had to reinstall linux-headers-* and then install the driver and it worked after that.
[02:21] <farlig> anyone using any other browser than firefox in ubuntu? if so, what?
[02:22] <n8tuserf> farlig -> w3m
[02:22] <Gnimsh> On top of that, once I got the driver working it was being used by v4l2, which did not work with skype or cheese, only camorama
[02:22] <Gnimsh> My question is, who can I talk to to notify them that this is happening so it can be fixed?
[02:22] <_Linuxx_> farlig i think opera is a good browser
[02:22] <danbhfive> mylisto: I had to try several screencast programs myself, till I found a working one:  /msg ubottu !screencast
[02:22] <junior> sorry, my program just exited, can anyone help me install apache server software so i can make a home server on ubuntu? its been a while since ive used this os so i dont even remember how to message 1 person on here
[02:22] <MrBarrett> _Linuxx_ how do i find the ubuntu drive in vista to reformat it and start again?
[02:22] <farlig> w3m is not my thing.. i like pictures
[02:23] <mylisto> ubottu !screencast
[02:23] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: I can offer some suggestions
[02:23] <farlig> _Linuxx_, do you use opera? can you add extensions to it?
[02:23] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett do this.. run the ubuntu install again, but this time, only take up 10g. leave the rest of the drive blank
[02:23] <mylisto> danbhfive: what one worked the best for you?
[02:23] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett then boot into vista...
[02:23] <danbhfive> mylisto: dont remember
[02:23] <n1gg3r> nigger
[02:23] <n1gg3r> nigger
[02:23] <FloodBot2> n1gg3r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <farlig> n8tuserf, don't tell me you actually use w3m..
[02:24] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, i'd appreciate that
[02:24] <danbhfive> mylisto: either recordmydekstoop or instanbul
[02:24] <mylisto> danbhfive: I tried both
[02:24] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett right click "computer" hit "manage" then click "disk management"
[02:24] <mylisto> can't get freaking audio to work
[02:24] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: does your webcam work in gstreamer-properties?
[02:24] <junior> sorry, my program just exited, can anyone help me install apache server software so i can make a home server on ubuntu? its been a while since ive used this os so i dont even remember how to message 1 person on here
[02:24] <Gnimsh> ya it did
[02:24] <MrBarrett> _Linuxx_ ty i can dig it
[02:24] <n1gg3r> try mint, ubuntu sucks
[02:24] <mylisto> if I say shit in here...peope jump on me
[02:24] <_Linuxx_> MRBarrett you will see your D drive, and see the free space, and make all the partitions you want
[02:24] <cdenny> hulu is very choppy in ubuntu, is there a way to fix it?
[02:25] <mylisto> why the hall has n1gg3r not been banned?
[02:25] <danbhfive> junior: you just want lamp?
[02:25] <Gnimsh> cdenny, do you have flash 10?
[02:25] <_Linuxx_> farlig i think it does most of everything firefox does
[02:25] <cjae> btw it is ntfsconf that is the mountmanger equivalent in 8.04 to anyone who is wondering
[02:25] <LjL> mylisto: send enough money to me, and i'll be here watching full-time.
[02:25] <junior> danbhfive: idk, whats lasp?
[02:25] <danbhfive> !lamp | junior
[02:26] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, that's what confuses me is that it works everywhere but skype and cheese, and I think it has something to do with v4l2
[02:26] <mylisto> ljl: he says nigger in the room...and nothing happens...I say s$%t or f%$k and I get warned
[02:26] <binarymutant> the scroll lock turns on with every other key press, how can i get this to stop?
[02:26] <xmedex> hello all
[02:26] <mylisto> what the hell is up with that
[02:26] <Gnimsh> when I test it in skype, there's just a black box
[02:26] <xmedex> who knows about ebox platform
[02:26] <xmedex> who knows about ebox platform???
[02:26] <liuxin> ebox?
[02:26] <LjL> !attitude | mylisto
[02:26] <cjae> how in gnome (8.04) do I create a desktop link to /media/windows/whatevermymusicisinmswindows ?
[02:26] <xmedex> yess
[02:26] <junior> ubottu: will it work on regular ubuntu instead of the server edition of ubuntu?
[02:27] <cjae> in xfce I can create url link but not in gnome
[02:27] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: er, I won't help you if you don't take my suggestions, and just repeat your problem.
[02:27] <Gnimsh> cjae: Just drag your music folder to the desktop
[02:27] <FluxD> Hi, can someone tell me how to find the IP of the DHCP server. On Windows ipconfig /all shows it, On ubunut ifconfig doesnt
[02:27] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, sorry I'm not sure I saw your last suggestion
[02:27] <danbhfive> junior: short answer, if you want it, run this: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[02:27] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: try gstreamer-properties
[02:27] <xmedex> how to setup ebox from stratch
[02:27] <Gnimsh> it works in gstreamer properties
[02:27] <cjae> Gnimsh: really...thanks, this will work from the windows partition?
[02:28] <Gnimsh> I think so
[02:28] <junior> danbhfive:ok thanks, ill do that now
[02:28] <cdenny> Gnimsh: I guess I dont
[02:28] <cdenny> Gnimsh: but when I try to install it says wrong architecture
[02:28] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: you think so?  can you confirm real quick?
[02:28] <liuxin> xmedex, do u have an ebox?
[02:28] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, it def works in gstreamer
[02:29] <Gnimsh> I think so was in regards to cjae
[02:29] <JuanMan> Hola a todos!
[02:29] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: can you try this: cheese -v    ?
[02:29] <junior> danbhfive: should it be taking a long time to install?
[02:29] <fearful> Compiz says I need a plugin called "window animations" I can't find it how can I install?
[02:29] <_Linuxx_> xmedex http://ebox-platform.com/community/installation-guide/
[02:29] <JuanMan> Que cuentan?
[02:29] <_VIM_>  JuanMan english
[02:29] <JuanMan> de que se trata esto?
[02:29] <JuanMan> OPs...
[02:29] <JuanMan> I'm sorry
[02:30] <_VIM_> :)
[02:30] <cjae> Gnimsh: thanks
[02:30] <danbhfive> junior: I don't know
[02:30] <JuanMan> Does anybody speak spanish?
[02:30] <_VIM_> !es | JuanMan
[02:31] <JuanMan> okas gracias che
[02:31] <liuxin> JuanMan,maybe many people here do not use English as their mother language
[02:31] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: does cheese work when you run it with the -v option?
[02:32] <_Linuxx_> juanman buena suerte
[02:32] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, it does now, I reverted back to 8.04. I admit that I was not coming here to seek a fix but just to submit my laptop specs to the devs.
[02:32] <lightdragon> is there anyone here that might be able to help me set things up so i can install a package with apt that it can't seem to find?
[02:32] <Gnimsh> do you think that this can be fixed?
[02:32] <_Linuxx_> sure can lightdragon
[02:33] <vertx> !ubottu
[02:33] <fearful> windo animatinos for compiz hwo can I install?
[02:33] <aryah> Im kinda disappointed with the amount of gnome components that are mono based? Isnt it a minefield of software patents waiting to explode in our face? And why depend on two frameworks and clutter the system with libraries?
[02:33] <liuxin> lightdragon,use aptitude
[02:33] <mylisto> I'm trying to get recordmydesktop to work...anytime I try to record with jack I get this Anytime I try to use jack as the capture device I get - cannot load the jack library (dlopen/dlsym error on libjac.so)
[02:34] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, tell ya what...I will reinstall 9.04 a bit later, and when I do, I will come back then
[02:34] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: well, if your webcam is working with gstreamer-properties (there is another test I can give too), then its working.  Submitting your specs won't help with that.  If you want your webcam to work OOTB, you should start by filing a bug on launchpad.   I'm personally trying to track down a bug in cheese, and I'm trying to see if you have the same bug
[02:35] <Gnimsh> ah i see
[02:35] <binarymutant> the scroll lock is messed up :(
[02:35] <Gnimsh> just a moment I'm looking to find the forum post I followed for a fix
[02:35] <junior> danbhfive: what should i do after i run tasksel install lamp-server? do i need to install anything else or just find the folder where the server is shared from?
[02:35] <mylisto> I'm trying to get recordmydesktop to work...anytime I try to record with jack I get this Anytime I try to use jack as the capture device I get - cannot load the jack library (dlopen/dlsym error on libjac.so)
[02:36] <binarymutant> !keyboard | binarymutant
[02:36] <lmnop90210> can anyone point me to documentation for enterprise client rollouts of ubuntu?
[02:36] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, here's one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966357
[02:36] <danbhfive> junior: the default is /var/www    but what you need to do is research apache configuration basically.   For a test setup, you could just put files into /var/www and point your browser to localhost or 127.0.0.1
[02:37] <junior> danbhfive: ok ill do that, thanks
[02:37] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, I'm trying to find the post with some cheese command
[02:37] <Gnimsh> I think it was to run cheese in verbose mode
[02:37] <Gnimsh> is that what the v does?
[02:37] <danbhfive> yeah
[02:38] <Gnimsh> ok
[02:38] <junior> danbhfive: what do i do if it says that i cannot put any files in that folder?
[02:38] <Gnimsh> there was no output when I ran that command
[02:38] <danbhfive> !sudo | junior
[02:38] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: did cheese still fail to work?
[02:38] <Gnimsh> ya
[02:39] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: try changing your resolution around
[02:39] <Gnimsh> I only had one resolution option
[02:39] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: and can you pastebin dmesg?
[02:39] <Gnimsh> currently I can't, sorry
[02:39] <danbhfive> why not?
[02:39] <Gnimsh> I reverted back to 8.04
[02:40] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: it works fine in 8.04?
[02:40] <Gnimsh> yep
[02:40] <CentHOGG> hi, I have a question about installing GNOME from ubuntu server. After sudo apt-get update, what is the command to get the lightest Gnome installation? Could it be found in Tasksel? thx in advance
[02:41] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Intrepid/Updated%20Hardy%20current%20issues%20with%20webcams
[02:42] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, oooohhh neat
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> CentHOGG: apt-get install gnome-core would do it.  Tasksel will have an "ubuntu desktop" option, but that gets you the equivalent of installing the desktop version with all included apps, which doesn't fulfill your "lightest" requirement.
[02:42] <CentHOGG> tonyyarusso: thx, yeah I'm seeing that right now :)
[02:42] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, so basically I just have to be patient then huh?
[02:43] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: I guess so, but its all over my head
[02:44] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, sure no problem. I appreciate your help
[02:44] <Gnimsh> never woulda found that link
[02:44] <adrenaline> Anybody know how to turn off the annoying keyring thing?
[02:44] <danbhfive> Gnimsh: no problem.  I know of it because I've been following some webcam stuff.  Its also available from ubottu as !webcam
[02:46] <DIFH-iceroot> adrenaline: enter an empty password for kering if you use auto-login
[02:46] <Gnimsh> !webcam
[02:46] <DIFH-iceroot> adrenaline: or set user pass for keyring if you dont use auto login
[02:46] <Brent2> How do you mount a windows partition?
[02:47] <Gnimsh> danbhfive, I'm just glad its being worked on, its made me feel a bit put out that I couldn't have a fully functional and newer system
[02:47] <_Linuxx_> brent2 a local NTFS partition?
[02:47] <Brent2> yes
[02:48] <_Linuxx_> brent2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[02:48] <Brent2> thanks
[02:48] <AnyaJ> can anyone tell me what room on irc i would go to to get help with a linker error?
[02:48] <AnyaJ> on my compiler?
[02:49] <paragonc> hrmmm - im experieincing pretty terrible latency when trying to connect to ubuntu 8.10 over VNC
[02:49] <fearful> Plugin Animations provides feature windowanimations which is also provided by Minimize Effect < this error with compiz
[02:49] <paragonc> any steps i can take to remove some of the lag
[02:49] <adrenaline> I don't want to have another freaking password
[02:49] <paragonc> its on a LAN
[02:49] <crdlb> fearful: it's not an error, just accept, and it'll disable the minimize plugin
[02:50] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: Which VNC are you using?  I find that tightvnc is pretty good for speed.
[02:50] <fearful> crdlb, I want to enable it, it won't let me proceed
[02:50] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit i just enabled remote desktop
[02:50] <adrenaline> I need to just have it quit prompting me.
[02:50] <a_> hello, is it possible for me to use cinerella
[02:50] <a_> on jaunty
[02:51] <Reidy> Whenever I get to the Terms of Service screen for World of Warcraft(Fresh Install), I can't seem my pointer, and about 10 seconds later everything glitches out, the screen goes nutz, and I'm forced to reboot.
[02:51] <crdlb> fearful: there are two choices, choose the right one ("disable minimize effect")
[02:51] <racecar56> is there an open source video screen capture software that exports in a format compatible with micro$oft movie maker?
[02:51] <fearful> crdlb, sigh, I want to enable it tho...
[02:52] <crdlb> fearful: no, you don't.
[02:52] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: do i have to disable anything in remote desktop to enable tightvnc ?
[02:52] <racecar56> i dont think so
[02:52] <_Linuxx_> Reidy switch to LOTRO... lol j/k
[02:52] <crdlb> fearful: 'Minimize' is a separate plugin which you don't need if you enable Animations
[02:52] <ringer> how do i connect to the linux mint channel?
[02:52] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: No.
[02:52] <enaner> is it possible for me to install cinerella on jaunty jackalope 64 bit?
[02:53] <fearful> crdlb, can I get my windows to minimize like OSX on animations?
[02:53] <fearful> crdlb, yes I can ;) thanks
[02:53] <crdlb> fearful: not exactly
[02:53] <crdlb> due to Apple's patent
[02:54] <Djelibeybi> Hey guys. For some reason, my Ubuntu desktop has decided to put an independent desktop on each of my monitors (I have two) instead of one that spans both.
[02:54] <racecar56> is there an open source video screen capture software that exports in a format compatible with micro$oft movie maker? i have to record a movie in linux but i cant do what im trying to record on window$
[02:54] <Djelibeybi> Any idea how to fix/disable this?
[02:54] <gRunt> Well I had to run a dual boot to support my ipod....but other than that I love ubuntu now :)
[02:55] <crdlb> Djelibeybi: meaning you can't drag windows between them?
[02:55] <Djelibeybi> I believe it happened when I first started Boxee, if that helps.
[02:55] <Djelibeybi> crdlb: correct.
[02:55] <enaner> gRunt, you can use banshee to support your ipod =]
[02:55] <Djelibeybi> crdlb: And they each have their own menu bars
[02:55] <Djelibeybi> crdlb: but weirdly, if I change the background, it changes on both monitors.
[02:55] <crdlb> Djelibeybi: you have somehow enabled separate X screens, which requires editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:56] <Djelibeybi> crdlb: Narf. Ok, I'll re-run the aticonfig stuff
[02:56]  * racecar56 waits for an answer
[02:56] <danbhfive> !screencast > racecar56
[02:56]  * enaner also waits for an answer regarding Cinerella on Jaunty
[02:56] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: ok i installed it - is there a conf file i need to edit to set a custom port?
[02:56] <danbhfive> !jaunty > enaner
[02:57] <gRunt> enaner, while I have tried multiple tutorials to get the ipod touch 2g with 2.2.1 firmware to sync with amarok or gtkpod it has failed, banshee doesn't support the touch yet and no media players (besides songbird) have good movie support, but I can live with windows just for that :)
[02:57] <enaner> thank u ubottu
[02:57] <_Linuxx_> racecar56 http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Creating_Screencasts
[02:58] <cdenny> crap
[02:58] <enaner> gRunt, sorry to hear that, may be you can run windows on virtual box for your ipod
[02:58] <cdenny> well goodbye, i must go back to the windows world, i need compatability
[02:58] <tokeefe> Hey everyone, I just got a Dell XPS with a builtin camera.
[02:58] <doleyb> tokeefe: brush your teeth
[02:58] <mezy> i have ubuntu installed on a 2gig usb. i want to have ubuntu on a 4gig usb. is there a way to have everything my settings and stuff in the 2gig and have them on the 4gig?
[02:58] <_Linuxx_> cdenny what?
[02:58] <tokeefe> Does anyone know what I need to install in order to use this thing w/ say meebo
[02:59] <cdenny> _Linuxx_:  adobe, autodesk, etc.
[02:59] <tokeefe> doleyb: :D
[03:00] <_Linuxx_> cdenny I always find it funny when people say they HAVE to use name brand software, when most people use about $5 worth of it
[03:00] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: Eck.  I don't remember.  You know, now that I think about it, the reason I installed tight was that it doesn't share the screen but create a new one.  I hope that's not a problem for you.  I'm sure a little googling will tell you how ot modify the port.
[03:00] <cdenny> _Linuxx_:  I make money from using it
[03:00] <doleyb> tokeefe: it might already work, try lucview
[03:00] <_Linuxx_> cdenny your the 1 out of 10
[03:00] <cdenny> thanks for all the help setting everything up though
[03:00] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: ya i just noticed that
[03:01] <cdenny> to people who helped me
[03:01] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: i need a shared screen
[03:01] <cdenny> bye
[03:01] <_Linuxx_> cdenny bye
[03:01] <daxroc1> Evening all
[03:01] <_Linuxx_> daxroc1 hey
[03:02] <tokeefe> Actually, cheese seems to see the camera.... of course cheese is all glitchy/flickering
[03:02] <duxbarak> how do i monitor my net traffic, eg. where packets are going/coming from?
[03:03] <_Linuxx_> duxbarak wireshark
[03:03] <duxbarak> is that in the repos?
[03:03] <daxroc1> A recent update crashed on me ( box went down ) , when I try to install any packages now it's giving me "files list file for package `dash' is missing final newline"
[03:03] <_Linuxx_> duxbarak i think so
[03:03] <danbhfive> daxroc1: can you sudo apt-get update?
[03:04] <duxbarak> yup, thanks
[03:04] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: Sorry about that.  I wonder why you are having latency problems in the first place on a LAN.
[03:04] <mezy> ....
[03:04] <daxroc1> danbhfive: yeah
[03:05] <danbhfive> daxroc1: is it fixed?
[03:05] <daxroc1> no
[03:05] <_Linuxx_> daxroc1 apt-get clean
[03:05] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: no idea - the rest of the connection is snappy - just remote desktop is slow
[03:05] <tokeefe> No one knows?
[03:05] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: Color depth?
[03:05] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: no idea
[03:05] <_Linuxx_> tokeefe /shrug
[03:06] <unop> daxroc1,  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/dash.* && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude reinstall dash
[03:06] <duxbarak> tokeefe> what's your problem?
[03:06] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: Are you using vinagre or vncviewer?
[03:06] <simez> hello
[03:07] <paragonc> i think vinagre
[03:07] <tokeefe> ive got a lotta problems
[03:07] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: Try vncviewer (sudo apt-get install vncviewer) and then type vncviewer --help to check out color options.  You might do better with a lower color depth.
[03:08] <tokeefe> starting w/ 64-bit ubuntu
[03:08] <tokeefe> I cannot skype w/ my gf :(
[03:08] <daxroc1>  unop: really appreciate it :)
[03:08] <simez> I have just changed from xubuntu 32bit to Ubuntu 64bit but, I seemed to have allot less software to download through synaptic. But, I can still get them with apt-get. I have the right repositories. So, is this a bug?
[03:08] <unop> daxroc1, does it solve your problem?
[03:08] <tokeefe> i got a dell xps 16 w/ a camera
[03:08] <paragonc> Error: Can't open display:
[03:08] <tokeefe> im trying skype from medibuntu
[03:08] <dr_dasos> using ubuntu 8.10, i connect to an ftp site using Places -> connect to server, it works and seems fine
[03:09] <daxroc1> unop: working away / updating so I think so
[03:09] <tokeefe> ill see how that goes
[03:09] <Guest86057> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:09] <Guest86057> does anyone know how to get the real msn on kubunt?
[03:09] <dr_dasos> But the folder name is very long, "ftp at user@xxxxxx", i cant rename it, but i want to to something short and to always have it present and to initiate a conection the first time i try and use it
[03:09] <duxbarak> tokeefe: i think i got it to work before on my 64-bit by using their generic linux package instead of the prebuilt .deb
[03:10] <daxroc1> unop: yeah solved it , thanks again
[03:10] <Guest86057> kubuntu*
[03:10] <duxbarak> tokeefe: it's on their linux download page, i think it just says generic, or tar.gz, or something like that
[03:11] <mylisto> argh...all of my sound settings are jacked up...
[03:11] <mylisto> need to fix them all
[03:12] <mylisto> which sound system should I be using?
[03:12] <mylisto> I
[03:12] <mylisto> I've got hda (intel), the conextant one
[03:12] <paragonc> i think tightvnc is default now or something - i cant grab vncviewer
[03:12] <mylisto> Should I use alsa or pulseaudio?
[03:12] <duxbarak> tokeefe, it was either the static or dynamic package, try one of those
[03:13] <chuxter> #list
[03:13] <tokeefe> im on 64-bit
[03:13] <tokeefe> tried installing it and it stopped me cuz i was on 64-bit
[03:13] <tokeefe> got medibuntu one running
[03:14] <mylisto> anyhow I am trying to get jack working
[03:14] <tokeefe> but when i try to call I get a "Problem with Audio PLayback"
[03:14] <mylisto> getting this error
[03:14] <liuxin> How to use wireless network on Thinkpad SL400
[03:14] <tokeefe> forget video... i can't even get audio workin
[03:14]  * simez waits
[03:14] <tokeefe> :-/
[03:15] <danbhfive> mylisto: why jack?
[03:15] <mylisto> danbhfive:
[03:15] <duxbarak> tokeefe, the dynamic (or static) package, instead of the ubuntu package just unzips and contains the files, which you have to install manually, but it works, i just did it again to check
[03:16] <mylisto> I'm trying to get recordmydesktop to record audio
[03:16] <riwa> I'm trying to configure my xterm but nothing happens. I'
[03:16] <TwoToneSpirit> I'm so proud of this place - is there a bigger all-volunteer live support network in the world?
[03:16] <mylisto> Trying to use jack in tandem with rmd
[03:16] <riwa> ve tried both Xresources and Xdefaults
[03:16] <danbhfive> mylisto: why are you trying to do it with JACK?
[03:16] <mylisto> because I can't get anything else to work
[03:16] <simez> how does live help work? Is there a que?
[03:16]  * paragonc is so close to downgrading to 8.04
[03:17] <liuxin> How to configure wireless network on SL 400?
[03:18] <Guest12614> hi
[03:18] <TornadoChas3r> Hello
[03:18] <Guest12614> am  from indiia
[03:18] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: So sorry you are having problems.  Any progress on the vnc issue?
[03:18] <Guest12614> am using amd 64 version
[03:18] <tokeefe> still getting some "Problem with Audio Playback"
[03:18] <simez> I have just changed from xubuntu 32bit to Ubuntu 64bit but, I seemed to have allot less software to download through synaptic. But, I can still get them with apt-get. I have the right repositories. So, is this a bug?
[03:19] <paragonc> nope - its defaulting to tightvnc when i try to install vncviewer
[03:19] <TornadoChas3r> is there a way i can change the home direcoty Template files so i can put my own custom files each users home directory gets when i Create them
[03:19] <tokeefe> duxbarak: got the dynamic package... still a problem w/ audio playback
[03:19] <Guest12614> there is problem in 64 bit , simulator needed
[03:19] <TornadoChas3r> sorry typos
[03:19] <fraterm> TornadoChas3r, /etc/skel is what you're after.
[03:19] <mylisto> fricking hell
[03:19] <TornadoChas3r> kk Thanks
[03:20] <Barridus> hey all, is it possible to disable the "barrier" that prevents windows from being moved up past the top toolbar?
[03:20] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: Yeah, vncviewer is the name of the tightvnc client - that's fine
[03:20] <crdlb> Barridus: yes
[03:20] <crdlb> Barridus: are you using compiz?
[03:20] <Keal> what is $HOME/.dmrc and what is this about 644 permissions?
[03:20] <Barridus> other than enabling basic desktop effects
[03:20] <wanna_learn_more> http://pastebin.com/m6091a72b << know about this
[03:20] <wanna_learn_more> i am trying to install it at ubuntu
[03:20] <crdlb> Barridus: that'd be compiz
[03:20] <Barridus> crdlb, i'd like to have that ability without running compiz effects
[03:20] <Keal> nite zzz
[03:20] <zombie-robot_> does anyone know where to get a good build of kiba dock for hardy?
[03:21] <pschorf> I'm trying to apply an emerald theme, but only the title bar and titlebar buttons are modified
[03:21] <crdlb> Barridus: doesn't it work without compiz? (using alt+drag)
[03:21] <corey> I need help! The tray inside my computer wont go back in!
[03:21] <tokeefe> the video works
[03:21] <tokeefe> but flickers like crazy
[03:22] <tokeefe> the audio device isn't being detected though
[03:22] <TornadoChas3r> dumb question how do you create dirctories in ssh
[03:22] <tokeefe> oh wait
[03:22] <crdlb> Barridus: afaik, the behavior with metacity is non-configurable but is reasonably sane
[03:22] <pschorf> I'm trying to apply an emerald theme, but only the title bar and titlebar buttons are modified. any ideas?
[03:23] <crdlb> TornadoChas3r: what do you mean by "in ssh"?
[03:23] <tokeefe> I put the Sound Out on "pulse" and this worked
[03:23]  * simez waves to everyone
[03:23] <zombie-robot_>  does anyone know where to get a good build of kiba dock for hardy?
[03:23] <TornadoChas3r> terminal
[03:23] <wanna_learn_more> there is any way to make my ubuntu kernel to be 2.6.28 WITHOUT installing new kernel on it
[03:23] <TornadoChas3r> close enough lol
[03:23] <crdlb> pschorf: that's all an emerald theme is
[03:23] <Barridus> crdlb, for background info i'm on a netbook with small vertical pixel count.  so because it;s a netbook i want to run no graphic effects as it's faster.  dragging works, but it works better to use right-click "move" to move windows up as i can move them higher (the cursor hits the screen edge and prevents more)
[03:23] <netskillsii> hello... everyone is there any way to enable my biometric device on Ubuntu 8.04?
[03:23] <simez> bye
[03:23] <pschorf> crdlb, how do i modify the rest of the window?
[03:23] <crdlb> pschorf: gtk theme set in system > prefs > appearance
[03:23] <TornadoChas3r> create a folder in Terminal
[03:23] <TwoToneSpirit> Barridus: Can you enable compiz and just disable all the other plugins?  Or does this still give you a performance hit?
[03:24] <TimReichhart> could anybody please help me with a error I am getting with nagios3
[03:24] <crdlb> TornadoChas3r: mkdir directory_name
[03:24] <paragonc> hrmmm so i removed vino and vinagre
[03:24] <TornadoChas3r> kk
[03:24] <TornadoChas3r> Thanks
[03:24] <Barridus> TwoToneSpirit, i'll see if that works.   i need compiz config package, iirc, correct?
[03:25] <crdlb> Barridus: so you have visual effects set to 'None'?
[03:25] <TwoToneSpirit> Barridus: Yeah, the package is compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:25] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc: How are you coming, buddy?
[03:26] <crdlb> Barridus: just use alt+drag
[03:26] <Barridus> crdlb, yes i do.  can't move beyond upper border unless i alt-drag.  but it can't go high as cursor hits the edge and stops me moving further
[03:26] <mylisto> how can i delete a file in terminal?
[03:26] <Barridus> TwoToneSpirit, roger
[03:27] <Peddy> which key should I hold down to scroll through the window list using my mouse's scroll wheel?
[03:27] <paragonc> im reinstalling vino
[03:27] <mylisto> its a symbolic link I created...need to delete it
[03:27] <netskillsii> hello... everyone is there any way to enable my finger print reader device on Ubuntu 8.04?
[03:27] <fraterm> mylisto, use the 'rm' command
[03:27] <TwoToneSpirit> mylisto: rm
[03:27] <crdlb> Barridus: how else do you expect to do it?
[03:27] <mylisto> oh yeah
[03:27] <wanna_learn_more> there is any way to make my ubuntu kernel to be 2.6.28 WITHOUT installing new kernel from source?
[03:27] <J_el_Che> I'm having issues installing a binary file (.bin) can anyone help with this?
[03:27] <Barridus> crdlb, right click on system tray and hit 'move'
[03:27] <crdlb> Barridus: how is that easier than alt+drag from the bottom of the window?
[03:28] <cratel> I have a program that loads correctly with gksudo but not as a regular user nor as sudo. How is the environment different and how can I make them the same?
[03:28] <bfig> hello. my microSD memory has some corrupted files inside/has become corrupted. how can i reformat it, or erase everything?
[03:28] <Barridus> crdlb, i have 600 pixels vertically.  somteims i need to move a window FAR up to see the bottom of it.
[03:28] <fraterm> wanna_learn_more, if you find a ppa repository somewhere that has packages with that kernel you might be able to.  It'd be pretty bad to do if you don't know what you're getting into.
[03:28] <TimReichhart> does anybody know nagios3
[03:28] <TwoToneSpirit> Here's a can of worms:  Will the next compiz / nautilus / gnome / X allow us to have different backgrounds and icons on different viewports?  Will we see this during the Jaunty cycle?
[03:28] <chaorain> I am using a vanilla Wubi inside Vista and I was wondering if I mount the Mozilla (windows) to .Mozilla (Ubuntu) this should make any changes in either be reflected in the other right? i.e. plug ins such as session manager
[03:28] <crdlb> Barridus: one full drag from bottom to top isnt enough? :o
[03:28] <Barridus> crdlb, nevermind i misunderstood
[03:29] <bfig> hello. my microSD memory has some corrupted files inside/has become corrupted. how can i reformat it, or erase everything?
[03:29] <netskillsii> hello... everyone is there any way to enable my finger print reader device on Ubuntu 8.04?
[03:29] <Barridus> crdlb, yeah i just realized that was possible right before your last line.  sorry i'm 'newish' to ubuntu
[03:29] <Barridus> crdlb, lifesaver, thanks
[03:29] <crdlb> yw
[03:30] <WebDawg> what server does lamp install default
[03:30] <WebDawg> apache2?
[03:30] <WebDawg> or apache
[03:30] <genii> Yup
[03:30] <crdlb> TwoToneSpirit: no
[03:30] <genii> apache2
[03:30] <WebDawg> so apache2
[03:30] <WebDawg> kickass
[03:30] <TwoToneSpirit> WebDawg: Apache2 I believe
[03:30] <WebDawg> it didnt install phpmyadmin
[03:30] <Barridus> crdlb, i was assuming i still had to drag it via the title bar with alt held XD
[03:30] <crdlb> TwoToneSpirit: using compiz, you can have different wallpapers, but only if you disable nautilus icons entirely
[03:30] <mylisto> danbhfive: would you be willing to take a few minutes to help me..at my wits end
[03:31] <TimReichhart> anybody know how to reconfigure a package inside of ubuntu 8.10 server?
[03:31] <netskillsii> Can anyone help me with FINGERPRINT READER
[03:31] <TwoToneSpirit> crdlb: Yeah, I can't really get down that way at this point.  I'm patient - just wondering when.
[03:32] <Barridus> crdlb, thanks for that tip too to TwoToneSpirit.  i was curious about that for my work machine (but hadn't looked into it yet)
[03:32] <junior> ok, i have got apache somewhat up, or horribly messed up, does anyone know a lot about apache servers that is willing to help me?
[03:32] <tc111> netskillsii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger
[03:32] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  I don't know if I know a lot, but I have it working on my setup.  What's wrong?
[03:33] <genii> junior: I imagine in #ubuntu-server or #apache they might
[03:33] <W473D> hey as an administrator how do log off other users from my file
[03:33] <W473D> ?
[03:33] <junior> twotonespirit: well when i try to get on it none of the files "have access" for me to get
[03:33] <basti> W473D, make the files only readable by you?
[03:34] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  well you may need to do some CHMODing then
[03:34] <basti> junior, make the files readable for www-data, or just chmod them
[03:34] <junior> genii: i tried ubuntu server once, i didnt get far because of the command line, lol, thats why im trying to to apache on regular ubuntu
[03:34] <W473D> basti im sorry i meant how do you log off other users from my account using a terminal
[03:34] <basti> W473D, kill the terminal
[03:35] <genii> junior: It all comes down to editing the conf files anyhow, either way
[03:35] <junior> twotonespirit: lol now im going to have to google chmod
[03:35] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  Yeah that's a good idea anyway :-)
[03:35] <netskillsii> tc111 thanks, i installed the package but i am getting error message
[03:35] <junior> twotonespirit: it might just be best for me to dish out $100 to get windows home server lol
[03:36] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: ok i got vncviewer spitting out data
[03:36] <W473D> basti im lost
[03:36] <Whitor> W473D, what are other users doing with your logon credentials ?
[03:36] <cjae> can someone help me remove the klavaro conf files from my computer so I can get it back to english settings?
[03:36] <wanna_learn_more> !ppa
[03:36] <genii> W473D: kill the pid of their ssh session or so
[03:37] <dawson> Good evening, is there any way I can browse the SD on my Palm Treo 650 via USB?
[03:37] <W473D> genii its not an ssh login
[03:37] <wanna_learn_more> so i must wait for ubunty janty next month ?
[03:37] <W473D> genii we use the same pc
[03:37] <wanna_learn_more> ubuntu janty?
[03:37] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  I highly doubt that.  :-)
[03:37] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: actually it loaded a client....
[03:37] <genii> W473D: the pid of whatever the tty is then
[03:37] <W473D> genii oo
[03:37] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc:  OK, cool!  Try to connect to your RD server
[03:37] <pschorf> can someone help me install a theme off of gnome-look?
[03:37] <Whitor> W473D, give them their owe user id
[03:38] <netskillsii> tc111 - the current message that i am getting is "Initializing...USB device not found"
[03:38] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: from my macbook or from my linux box
[03:38] <mylisto> hey whats an easy way to compile a program
[03:38] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc:  From your linux box.  Type vncviewer <IP Address>
[03:38] <mylisto> want to install jack2
[03:38] <Whitor> make
[03:38] <TwoToneSpirit> mylisto:  Depends on the program - there may or may not be an easy way.  Most of them use make.
[03:38] <Brent2> can someone please tell me the package nam of the proprietary ati radeon driver? i'm not able to get into gnome to get it. i'm trying to install it through the console.
[03:38] <netskillsii> tc111 - the current message that i am getting is "Initializing...USB device not found"
[03:39] <mylisto> how do I do this?
[03:39] <Whitor> type make
[03:39] <paragonc> hrmmm thats totally borked
[03:39] <paragonc> TwoToneSpirit: it just tiles my screen
[03:39] <Whitor> is the directory with the makefile ...
[03:39] <darkhelmetlive> is there a way to clean the gnome applications menu? i have a bunch of entries that do nothing...
[03:39] <darkhelmetlive> other than removing things manually...
[03:39] <mylisto> I've got the .bz2 file
[03:39] <junior> twotonespirit: well ive tried the 120day trial of it and it works great, but since $100 is quite a bit i wanted to try to get a home server done with ubuntu and ive heard about apache before, but i never thought it would be this hard, i just followed this web site and it didnt really get me anywhere but lost, lol
[03:39] <mylisto> what do I do next?
[03:40] <Whitor> mylisto, you need to extract it first
[03:40] <kitche> Brent2: xorg-video-fglrx or video-xorg-fglrx
[03:40] <bigrigger> Brent2: in hardy its, xserver-xorg-video-ati
[03:40] <mylisto> whitor: where should I extract it to?
[03:40] <Brent2> thanks
[03:40] <bigrigger> Brent2: apt-cache search 'ati driver'
[03:40] <nubuntu_> ??
[03:40] <basti> junior, just put everyting in /var/www-data nad chown it
[03:40] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  Well you might try #apache, although my experience is that they aren't the same breed of peace-and-love hippies as #ubuntu :-)
[03:40] <Whitor> your home dir would be a good place to start
[03:40] <netskillsii> tc111 - Do you have any idea? really need help....
[03:40] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  Did you google chmod?
[03:40] <Titan8990> bigrigger, xserver-xorg-video-ati is the open source driver
[03:40] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  I think that you'll be happier with apache once you get it going
[03:41] <W473D> genii how do you get the pid of what tty she is logged on because ps -ef | grep sham only pulls up her process but no pid for a tty
[03:41] <Whitor> mylisto, what are oyu trying to compile ?
[03:41] <mylisto> jack2
[03:41] <Brent2> so in the console i'd type: apt-get video-xorg-fglrx  ....?
[03:41] <Whitor> oh, heh you said that
[03:41] <TwoToneSpirit> Brent2 apt-get install
[03:41] <mylisto> :D
[03:41] <TwoToneSpirit> Brent2: sudo apt-get install
[03:41] <bigrigger> Titan8990: your right
[03:41] <TwoToneSpirit> :-)
[03:41] <Eric_Weatherby> hi, everyone
[03:41] <nubuntu_> :(
[03:41] <Brent2> ok thanks
[03:42] <Titan8990> Brent2, you should use the restricted driver manager
[03:42] <nubuntu_> you are hacker
[03:42] <bigrigger> Brent2: that was the open source driver, you want the proprietory, and good luck
[03:42] <junior> twotonespirit: ya and one of the sites is telling be about the .htpaccess file but now i have to remember how to access the config file through the sudo to allow for them and hope they will let me open the files
[03:42] <Titan8990> !ati | Brent2
[03:42] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  So you were more accustomed to a GUI interface?
[03:42] <kinja-sheep> Hi. I'm trying to figure out which package worked the best before I go off and install them for DynamicDNS, feedbacks would be nice.  inadyn, ddclient, or no-ip?
[03:42] <Brent2> ok
[03:42] <basti> junior, you only need htaccess for securing somthing
[03:42] <mylisto> ubottu !compile
[03:43] <netskillsii> tc111 - Do you have any idea? really need help....
[03:43] <kitche> kinja-sheep: well they are each tied to a certain service so chose the client for youur service
[03:43] <netskillsii> Can anyone help me with FINGERPRINT READER
[03:43] <genii> W473D: look for a line like: username      6106  0.0  0.3   6396  3796 pts/0    Ss   17:43   0:00 /bin/bash           except make sure it's not you on pts/0 or so. Then kill the pid
[03:43] <junior> twotonespirit: ya, ive done some dos but love gui way better
[03:43] <genii> W473D: I used ps aux   in that example
[03:44] <junior> basti: so it wont help my problem? darn, back to google, lol
[03:44] <Whitor> command shell != dos
[03:44] <TwoToneSpirit> junior: Have you asked any questions in #apache?  They are pretty quick over there.
[03:44] <basti> ps -A | grep bash W473D
[03:44] <netskillsii> Can anyone help me with FINGERPRINT READER
[03:44] <pschorf> whenever i try to install a new theme, i get an error message saying that index.theme is not valid
[03:44] <junior> twotonespirit: im thinking about logging in over there
[03:44] <basti> junior, the problem with apache make you read the files you want it to?
[03:44] <Whitor> netskillsii, if sooomeone can, they will reply
[03:44] <basti> if yes, then no
[03:44] <junior> twotonespirit: but not sure if i can run two xchats at same time, lol
[03:45] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  You don't need to
[03:45] <jimisrvrox> Hey guys I have a wusb54gcsv2 and I tried to ndis the win drivers for it and no dice on ubuntu 8.10 so then I tried drivers for v1 and no dice..im wondering what I can do to make the damn thing work!
[03:45] <TwoToneSpirit> junior: just type /join #apache - you can be in many channels in the same xchat
[03:45] <TwoToneSpirit> paragonc:  Any progress?
[03:45] <junior> basti: thats just one of the problems, lol, ive probably got a ton somewhere down the line, but right now i get on the localhost and the files show, i just cannot click on any of them
[03:45] <netskillsii> Sounds good thanks!
[03:46] <banteng> how can I install chromium without wine?
[03:46]  * r00tintheb0x bows.
[03:46] <r00tintheb0x> Im back...
[03:46] <Eric_Weatherby> is there a waiting list here, or can I jump right in with my problem?
[03:46] <r00tintheb0x> anyone need help?
[03:46] <junior> twotonespirit: then my conversations would probably become really confusing
[03:46] <r00tintheb0x> if so, copy my name 1st so my client blinks.
[03:46] <Eric_Weatherby> r00tintheb0x: I could use some help
[03:46] <TwoToneSpirit> junior:  Give it a try - I'm in three channels right now, no problem
[03:46] <basti> junior, usually apache is very eas to use. you just have to put your files in /var/www
[03:47] <TwoToneSpirit> !ask
[03:47] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, please explain your problem in detail.
[03:47] <junior> basti: the web site i was following had me place the file directory in a folder on the desktop, and change the web site from default to mysite
[03:48] <darkhelmetlive> no way to clean up the applications menu? it's annoying right now
[03:48] <Eric_Weatherby> when attempting to install either Ubuntu or Kubuntu, the installer freezes if I select anything other than "boot from first hard drive". Xubuntu works fine
[03:48] <basti> junior, then you didnt do it right
[03:48] <Eric_Weatherby> this is on a computer only a few years old with a 2.8GHz processor and 3MB of RAM
[03:49] <kitche> 3MB?
[03:49] <Eric_Weatherby> sorry, 3GB
[03:49] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, what you said makes no sense.
[03:49] <r00tintheb0x> the installer freezes where Eric_Weatherby ?
[03:49] <HentaiDebian> r00tintheb0x, anything he tries
[03:49] <Flannel> Eric_Weatherby: Sounds like a bad burn, if even "verify integrity" fails
[03:49] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, are the drives SATA?
[03:50] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, focus.
[03:50] <Eric_Weatherby> I'm not sure if they're SATA or not
[03:50] <r00tintheb0x> Do you want my help are n ot.
[03:50] <Eric_Weatherby> yes
[03:50] <junior> basti: lol thats a bummer, now i have to figure out where i went wrong, this is just too much work, how does anyone do this
[03:50] <r00tintheb0x> Do the drives have a thin red cable Eric_Weatherby, or do they have a wide grey cable?
[03:50]  * r00tintheb0x is guessing they're SATA.
[03:51] <Eric_Weatherby> wide gray
[03:51] <junior> twotonespirit: lol i joined the apache server and said something but noone saying anything
[03:51] <HentaiDebian> was gonna say doubt it but to late
[03:51] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, do you know what "jumpering a drive" means?
[03:51] <Ndshacker> I have a samsung Netopia SWL-2300U, I tried ndiswrapper, but it doesnt work, Any idea?
[03:51] <Eric_Weatherby> yes
[03:51] <basti> junior, nopaste your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and the dir you have your files located
[03:51] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, make sure your master drive is jumpered as master and your slave as slave.
[03:51] <AgentHeX> on a hardy server installation, i put a BASH script in /etc/cron.hourly/ and chmod'ed it to +x.  it has not fired in the past hour.  what am i doing wrong?
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> Then put the master drive @ the end of the IDE cable, and the slave second in line.
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> Do it now.
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[03:52] <junior> basti: ok ill do that right now
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> kthnx.
[03:52] <FloodBot2> r00tintheb0x: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:52] <HentaiDebian> Eric_Weatherby, do you currently have a working os on it? and at what part does the installer freeze at?
[03:53] <r00tintheb0x> Okay, HentaiDebian is taking over Eric_Weatherby
[03:53] <r00tintheb0x> let him fix it.
[03:53] <jimisrvrox> Nds...welcome to my world...ive been jackin around with this wusb54gcsv2 for a good week now trying to get it to work with ndis
[03:53] <kc8pxy> i need some help rescuing my ubuntu desktop..     it keeps freezing during boot. it will act like it's about to go to the login manager,   and then die, black-screen, most of the time...    other times, i'll get a stalled "working cursor, but still no login,  and other times, it's fine.
[03:53] <junior> basti: did that and things still say their forbidden
[03:53] <basti> junior, oh and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[03:53] <netskillsii> rOOtinthebOx - i could use some help with finger print reader??
[03:53] <Ndshacker> kc8pxy: Just walk away for a bit
[03:53] <kc8pxy> the gentoo it's dual-booted with boots fine every time.
[03:53] <r00tintheb0x> netskillsii, i have no experience but i'll try.
[03:54] <Ndshacker> YOu probably have a Dell
[03:54] <basti> ,nopaste junior
[03:54] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  custom build.
[03:54] <Eric_Weatherby> ah, my *hard drives* have the thin red cable (SATA), my CD/DVD drive has the wide gray
[03:54] <genii> netskillsii: Did you try http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/get-your-fingerprint-reader-to-work-in.html  yet?
[03:54] <Flannel> Eric_Weatherby: Do these CDs check out on another computer? (Do you have another computer that they can be verified on?)
[03:54] <Ndshacker> Jmisrvrox: :| I hate it, I have three network cards, my best one doesnt work >.<
[03:54] <basti> junior, paste the files i mentioned to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:55] <kc8pxy>  Ndshacker: any other ideas?
[03:55] <Eric_Weatherby> I can try them on my laptop . . . I'll let you know what happens
[03:55] <jimisrvrox> well what really pisses me off is that v1 works on all sys's
[03:55] <r00tintheb0x> Eric_Weatherby, do you have two drives?
[03:55] <Ndshacker> kc8: I get the same error if I dotn do some tweaks
[03:55] <r00tintheb0x> both with the red cables?
[03:55] <r00tintheb0x> noooooooooooo eric
[03:55] <jimisrvrox> but walmart did a bait/switch and so I thought ahh ok so I'll just grab this puppy and plug her in..no dice..cant find the damn receipt..
[03:55] <Ndshacker> kc8: do you get any probs in the recovery console?
[03:55] <netskillsii> rOOtinthebOx - sounds good, i installed the packet Think Finger and as soon as i am ready to registered my finger print i get error message "Initializing...USB device not found"
[03:55] <Eric_Weatherby> two hard drives, both with red cables
[03:56] <cjae> !tipptrainer
[03:56] <cjae> !info tipptrainer
[03:56] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  what tweaks?  I've not tried recovery console much yet. it's our font-desk computer. I'm not at the shop.
[03:56] <Djelibeybi> Hmm.. swiching my xorg.conf didn't seem to help.
[03:56] <Kurrupt> hi
[03:57] <Ndshacker> kc8pxy: Mine had a problem with the network card, so... its probably a hardwar malfunction causing it
[03:57] <Ndshacker> I had to blacklist a few processes to fix it
[03:57] <netskillsii> gerri - i will check the site provided
[03:57] <junior> basti: ok their pasted, now what?
[03:57] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  like???   i need to appease the ubuntu people at the shop.
[03:57] <Ndshacker> lolz
[03:57]  * kc8pxy is a native gentoo user
[03:57] <Kurrupt> can someone please tell me how I can install ubuntu on my computer without having to burn a cd? Where can I download the files? All the files I found online are .iso files.
[03:58] <Ndshacker> What is it running on?
[03:58] <Flannel> !install | Kurrupt
[03:58] <Flannel> Kurrupt: First link there lists a few other methods
[03:58] <Kurrupt> !install
[03:58] <Kurrupt> hmm lol
[03:58]  * Ndshacker has a tendency to tweak all files :)
[03:58] <Flannel> Kurrupt: see the line ubottu sent you
[03:58] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker: .........  i forget the board, but it's an amd64 3200+ with s 200 gb sata, and 1gb ram
[03:58] <Kurrupt> kk ty
[03:58] <Ndshacker> onboard networking controller?
[03:59] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  yes.
[03:59] <basti> junior, paste the link the side provides. but i have to sleep now. i am sure someone else here can help you. sorry....
[03:59] <Ndshacker> Bah
[03:59] <hajmola> anyone tried google earth 5 and have no sound?
[03:59] <netskillsii> Thanks everyone i will try solution provided! Hopefully this will work......
[03:59] <Kraft_> Help:  How do I install zsnes?   Its got like a docs and src file and im not that familiar with installing those types of files
[04:00] <Nasra> !Gnome
[04:00] <AgentHeX> can someone tell me how to make a script run every hour?
[04:00] <Ndshacker> Try recovery console
[04:00] <fearful> Kraft_, you need to learn how to build applications, its kind of essential ;)
[04:00] <Kraft_> yeah
[04:00] <Kraft_> i was wondering how to do that
[04:01] <XtrHotMarSpy> cron
[04:01] <Ndshacker> Thank god for linux, it just helped me get a windows driver O.O
[04:01] <fearful> Kraft_, normally cd /directory once inside ./configure let that run, then sudo make install let that finish then make install
[04:01] <Until_It_Sleeps> Ndshacker: ♥
[04:01] <WalkTheLine> I have an Orinoco Proxim Gold card, can someone tell me how to install the wireless drivers? I heard they are already loaded in ubuntu
[04:01] <musikgoat|main> fearful: .configure && make && sudo make install
[04:01] <Kraft_> I see. cool!  what are some of the ...how do you say... terminal commands to use
[04:02] <Ndshacker> For what?
[04:02] <Ndshacker> there are lots of terminal commands
[04:02] <fearful> musikgoat|main, Kraft_ or all in one like above
[04:02] <Flannel> !gnome
[04:02] <AgentHeX> !cron
[04:02] <musikgoat|main> fearful: your command set was off is what i meant by that
[04:02] <Kraft_> im trying to install zsnes, an emulator so i can play super nintendo games
[04:02] <jimisrvrox> naw Nds...when I tried both sets of drivers when doing ndis I get Error something flags No device so yeah..do everything even -a to assign it but when I do ifconfig I get that and then on reboot I get stuck at starting bluetooth
[04:03] <fearful> musikgoat|main, oh yea I just noticed, I'm sorry Kraft_ sudo make first then sudo make install
[04:03] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: src should be a directory or a compressed file, no?
[04:03] <Flannel> !Gnome
[04:04] <horley> can anyone think of a reason why my sound has stopped working on VLC player? it seems to work everywhere else.. (ps.. i had a hell of a time getting my sound to work in the first place)
[04:04] <Kraft_> its just zsnes_1_51, (that's a folder.) than i open it up, and theres 2 folders "Docs" and "Src"
[04:04] <Kraft_> i ran "configure" in terminal
[04:04] <Kraft_> i dont know if that did anything or not
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: in the Src directory, is there a configure file?
[04:04] <fearful> Kraft_, yea than cd to /zsnes_1_51/Src
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: you have to be located in the directory
[04:04] <jimisrvrox> horley..most of the time I get that too sometimes and I just reboot..but other than that I couldnt see why sound would just stop working like that
[04:05] <Kraft_> Zsnes
[04:05] <Kraft_> whoa this is confusing
[04:05] <jimisrvrox> my guess is could just be driver package..BUT most likely not...seeming that it works with everything else but VLC
[04:05] <kc8pxy> Ndshacker:  what bothers me, is that it was working fine, then someone killed the power while it was on,  and it's been flaky under ubuntu ever since,  but i CANNOT get teh same flakiness out of the gentoo that's also on the same box.
[04:05] <Kraft_> user@user-desktop:-$
[04:05] <fearful> Kraft_, you have to locate the folder which contains configure.sh inside zsnes folder.
[04:06] <segin> Kraft_: Look under zsnes/src
[04:06] <njain> how to install Yahoo Messenger on Ubuntu
[04:06] <horley> jimisrvrox: yeah it's strange..
[04:06] <Kraft_> there's install-sh
[04:06] <njain> where is it
[04:06] <segin> Kraft_: That's not what you think it is.
[04:06] <Brack101> Hey
[04:06] <Kraft_> the only config files are   config.guses, config.h.in, config.log config.sub and configure... and configure.in.
[04:06] <Brack101> anyone used dimdim conferencing?
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> kraft
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> configure
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> thats what we asked about
[04:07] <WalkTheLine> i am a new user, should i setup a root user? i have a user account but it asks me for my password when making big changes. is that the preferred method of security?
[04:07] <Kraft_> yup
[04:07] <jimisrvrox> yeah horley...im not tech enuf to really say for sure..but my guess is driver pkg...me on the other hand ive got this wireless nic that will not work even with ndis
[04:07] <njain> Yahoo Messenger ?
[04:07] <segin> njain: Yahoo! does not, nor is it likely to ever ship a up-to-date Linux client. Please use Pidgin instead.
[04:07] <fearful> Kraft_, once this folder is located you can cd on the terminal
[04:07] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: ok, where is that folder and file located, on your Desktop?
[04:07] <Kraft_> yep it's on my desktop.   im not sure how to cd in the terminal
[04:07] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: use your unprivlidged account and elevate by typing your password or using the command sudo when necessary
[04:07] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: Never login as root, you don't need to
[04:07] <oniltonmaciel> Does anybody knows if I install a persistent live cd in a usb sticky, will I  get my customizations of the usb stick when I try to do a new installation with this usb sticky?
[04:07] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: type the following cd ~/Desktop/
[04:07] <jimisrvrox> WalkTheLine yes it is..ubuntu on default does not give you root acct..you have to make it..but it is the preferred method..whereas in old versions of windows you would technically have root privilages off the bat
[04:07] <segin> Kraft_: In all cases, the one named "configure" is the one you want
[04:07] <Ndshacker> Walktheline: DOnt make a root account
[04:08] <fearful> Kraft_, run the terminal and type cd ~/Desktop
[04:08] <segin> Kraft_: Invoke it as "./configure --help" (without quotes)
[04:08] <WalkTheLine> ok Brack, thank you. I wasn't sure if I should create a diff password for root or not
[04:08] <jimisrvrox> WalkTheLine you only should need to log into root if you are doing system maintenance or temporary for installing packages.
[04:08] <hunus> folks...I can't use wine
[04:08] <Kraft_> that worked but I had to capitalize "Desktop" interesting
[04:08] <Flannel> WalkTheLine: sudo is the preferred method, yes.  Ubuntu doesn't use a root account.
[04:08] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: yes and it should be VERY secure
[04:08] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: then cd zsnes_1_5_1  or whatever the foldre name was
[04:08] <hunus> there is no fonts showed
[04:08] <segin> Kraft_: Yes, Linux (and other Unix-like systems) are case-sensitive.
[04:08] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: linux is case sensitive, you'll get used to that
[04:08] <musikgoat|main> heh
[04:08] <WalkTheLine> understood Brack, thank you
[04:09] <Ndshacker> :| I geuss ill have to stick with Zydas, since Samsnung hates Ubuntu ;(
[04:09] <segin> Kraft_: A file named STARTREK is not named the same as one named startrek, or StarTrek, or even StArTrEk
[04:09] <horley> jimisrvox: yeah im not really techie enough either.. i'm new to ubuntu.. the good thing about your wireless problem is that there is a lot of info on wireless nics but the bad thing is that there is a lot of information on wireless nics..
[04:09] <hunus> somebody understand of wine?
[04:09] <Kraft_> i completely understand
[04:09] <fearful> hunus, offer a little more detail
[04:09] <Kraft_> i typed cd /zsnes_1_51
[04:09] <jimisrvrox> well horley..problem is that theres virtually NO info on this puppy
[04:09] <Kraft_> no such file or directory
[04:09] <hunus> my proble is about the fonts
[04:09] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: the forward slash is incorrect
[04:09] <fearful> Kraft_, type dir and see the exact name
[04:09] <musikgoat|main> at the beginning
[04:09] <segin> Kraft_: Because you specified an absolute path
[04:09] <hunus> in the config screen I cant see any word
[04:09] <WalkTheLine> can anyone help me find my wireless drivers? I have the Orinoco Gold card and was told they are already part of Ubuntu... not sure where to find them though
[04:09] <Kraft_> oh nice
[04:09] <horley> jimisrvrox: ahh.. tough one..
[04:09] <segin> Kraft_: / is the start ofyour file system...
[04:09] <Ndshacker> Is it safe to mount My Windows Install inside of Ubuntu
[04:09] <Kraft_> i see them all
[04:10] <Kraft_> (duh)
[04:10] <segin> Ndshacker: yes
[04:10] <DIFH-iceroot> Ndshacker: yes
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> so yeah me and Nds are having similar probs
[04:10] <Kraft_> ok, I'm in.
[04:10] <Ndshacker> Kay, thanks :)
[04:10] <musikgoat|main> are you in the Src folder Kraft_?
[04:10] <Kraft_> yes
[04:10] <Kraft_> user@user-desktop:~/Desktop/zsnes_1_51/src$
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> wusb54gcsv2 is my nic and ndis just isnt working with the win drivers.and its driving me nuts!
[04:10] <Ndshacker> I was just wondering, as it will help since I download + scan on linux
[04:10] <hunus> I already try to instal fonts
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> Been messing with this thing for about a weke
[04:10] <jimisrvrox> week*
[04:10] <hunus> but nothing works
[04:10] <Ndshacker> jmis: me too
[04:10] <musikgoat|main> has anyone told you about build-essential? Kraft_?
[04:11] <Kraft_> no ones mentioned anything about that no
[04:11] <fearful> musikgoat|main, I don't think we have
[04:11] <musikgoat|main> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:11] <segin> Kraft_: You may want to run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:11] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: what are you trying? installing zsnes?
[04:11] <Kraft_> yes sir
[04:11] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: sudo apt-get install zsnes
[04:11] <jpbaa12> My wireless card is no detecting any networks, even after I put in the SSID (not broadcast) and password for my WAN and there are 2 unsecured available on other boxes.  Where do I start?
[04:11] <WalkTheLine> should i be concerned if firestarter shows some serious threats?
[04:11] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: its some basic build tools for linux source programs
[04:11] <segin> Kraft_: This will install the GNU toolchain (the GNU compiler and binutils), and some basic system libs
[04:12] <Kraft_> ok ok to get out of the zsnes folder, what should i type?  so i can get the GNU toolchain
[04:12] <jimisrvrox> Ndshacker mine I think I told you but when I do ndis I end up with after trying ifconfig wlan0 up I get ERROR interrupt flags: No Device or something to that affect and then on reboot hangs at starting bluetooth
[04:12] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: or if you like snes9x more  sudo apt-get install snes9x
[04:12] <lightbots> im learning bash at the moment, and im wondering if ubuntu 8.10 comes with bash?
[04:12] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: you don't have to do that
[04:12] <Ndshacker> Im not familiar with Ndis
[04:12] <ray_> using ubuntu, how can I run stream.raw file raw video file captured from webcam
[04:12] <DIFH-iceroot> lightbots: yes
[04:12] <Kraft_> not sure what one is the best
[04:12] <Ndshacker> Hence my frustration ;(
[04:12] <musikgoat|main> the sudo apt-get command is not dependent on the location
[04:12] <jimisrvrox> ahh there are plenty of vids out there
[04:12] <fearful> Kraft_, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:12] <shifty-tl> hello, I installed two mbrs on two harddrives when installing linux mint, so nothing boots, except when I have the windows cd in the tray... then everything is fine. I tried loading the windows cd and typing fixmbr, when prompted to log into a windows I noticed that it had D:/windows instead of c so I guess it failed to detect it. Sry I'm noobis in messing with the mbr don't know were to start
[04:12] <jimisrvrox> where are u stuck?
[04:13] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_:i like snes9x more but why are you trying to compile zsnes if it is in the repos?
[04:13] <hunus> somebody already solve the problem of wine about the fonts that dont appear in the screens??
[04:13] <Kraft_> oh it's installing
[04:13] <ika_ubuntu> i'm new here
[04:13] <Kraft_> the build essential
[04:13] <ika_ubuntu> hello
[04:13] <Ndshacker> ika: congratualations
[04:13] <bluepojo> Anyone know a good starting place to trouble shoot sound?
[04:13] <Kraft_> im not sure if its in the repos. i was reading the forums and saw the cool things to do with linux post blah blah blah
[04:13] <Ndshacker> :)
[04:13] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: DIFH-iceroot is right, if some thing is already built for your os, its usually not necessary to build it
[04:13] <praveen3> hello can any body help me
[04:13] <Kraft_> i used to have an emulator back in the day...
[04:14] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: it is in the repos, i was looking just a jew minutes ago
[04:14] <WalkTheLine> my fiance said, 'i am glad i am not the only one that gives you a headache' when i made a noise at ubuntu
[04:14] <ika_ubuntu> thank you
[04:14] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: sudo apt-get install zsnes
[04:14] <Kraft_> alright
[04:14] <jimisrvrox> jpb you may have the same issue I do where ubuntu is not detecting your wireless card
[04:14] <Kraft_> well that should be pretty easy to install than, haha!
[04:14] <bluepojo> sound? anyone? troubleshooting? poke?
[04:14] <jimisrvrox> if you are not getting any signal at all most likely you are going to have to install the win drivers
[04:14] <Brack101> hunus: http://appdb.winehq.org and lookup your application to see what's going on with it
[04:14] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: yes, its always easy to use the repos
[04:14] <lightbots> for bash, why then when I run a bash simple script the while or if get errors "while[1]: command not found"
[04:14] <ray_> hello, needs help on OpenLDAP on ubuntu
[04:15] <kc8pxy> WalkTheLine:  yes, that's the preffered security.   because anyone that is not you would have to jump trough the same hoops :)
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> Kraft_: the build-essential set could come in use sometime in the future though
[04:15] <Ndshacker> psh, I give up on this shit network card :( not like I need wireless for a desktop
[04:15] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: you can search the repos for a program with "apt-cache search programname"
[04:15] <Kraft_> i was trying to do this s-video thing a few days ago and still haven't figured it out. had to restart my comp like 10 times with this nvidia x thing.  i gave up.
[04:15] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? :D
[04:15] <WalkTheLine> does linux have plug n play?? haha sorry  but I am a Windows man
[04:15] <Kraft_> alrighty
[04:15] <hunus> is cedega better than wine?
[04:15] <DIFH-iceroot> WalkTheLine: yes it has
[04:15] <PiscesM54> JOIN fevre
[04:15] <Ndshacker> mmmyes?
[04:15] <jpbaa12> jim - great, i think. how do i know
[04:15] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: "yes" it does
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> night
[04:15] <jimisrvrox> Ndshacker I wouldnt give up just yet
[04:15] <ika_ubuntu> walktheline
[04:15] <Ndshacker> jimis: I dont need it
[04:15] <WalkTheLine> Thanks kc8pxy, that makes sense now
[04:15] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: unless your device isn't 100% compatible
[04:15] <bluepojo> is there a package for games for zsnes, or is that something better left to your favorite p2p site?
[04:15] <jimisrvrox> oh well sure then go ahead heh
[04:16] <Ndshacker> It was for my laptop
[04:16] <jimisrvrox> me on the other hand its a PITA that I dont have i t
[04:16] <kc8pxy> WalkTheLine:  plug n play?
[04:16] <Ndshacker> which runs Auditor >.>
[04:16] <DIFH-iceroot> bluepojo: roms are not legal so there are of course not in the repos
[04:16] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: I assume you're talking about USB devices
[04:16] <bluepojo> oh. right.
[04:16] <bluepojo> fair enough.
[04:16] <ika_ubuntu> i'm new i n linux....why it use many command to install or whatever
[04:16] <bluepojo> forgot that detail.
[04:16] <Barridus> WalkTheLine, the impression i've gotten is that nvidia just makes crap ass drivers for linux.  i've had two machines now with nvidia that had some sort of severe but i had to shuffle around with workaround walkthroughs
[04:16] <ray_> help help help on skype sound on intrepid
[04:16] <Kraft_> @ Bluepojo you just type sudo apt-get install zsnes
[04:16]  * bluepojo moves to canada
[04:16] <DIFH-iceroot> bluepojo: np
[04:17] <bluepojo> DIFH-iceroot: <3
[04:17] <Flannel> ika_ubuntu: It doesn't.  You have to answer like six questions, and it installs.
[04:17] <bluepojo> Kraft_: have done so already. <3 thanks
[04:17] <jimisrvrox> Barridus...if you think nvidia is bad...just try ATI on linux :D
[04:17] <segin> bluepojo: No known games have ever been released that target the SNES platform that have permissive enough distribution terms to allow placement in either the free or non-free repositories.
[04:17] <Kraft_> np :)
[04:17] <shifty-tl> bump, mbr help plz :)
[04:17] <bluepojo> segin: gotcha
[04:17] <bluepojo> off to the green dragon then
[04:17]  * bluepojo moves to the swiss alps
[04:17] <Barridus> jimisrvrox, yeah for linux i think i'll stick with intel onboard video for now
[04:18] <bluepojo> anyway, my sound died one random day.
[04:18] <jimisrvrox> sure you can always do that :)
[04:18] <bluepojo> I don't know why.
[04:18] <jimisrvrox> save yourself probs with either nvidia or ati
[04:18] <bluepojo> it produces feint crackles
[04:18] <Brent2> i installed the fglrx ati radeon proprietary driver but am still getting a white screen when trying to start gnome. I cant run the "Restricted Driver Manager" through the console. any suggestions?
[04:18] <bluepojo> it's not the hardware, as it still works when I boot into windows
[04:18] <Barridus> yeah it's not like i game on the pc anymore (other than basic games) anyways
[04:18] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? :D
[04:18] <jimisrvrox> my issue is with this lovely linksys usb nic...ndis wont do the trick or nothing!
[04:18] <segin> bluepojo: The Pirate Bay is usually better if you go for BitTorrent. (note: I do not suggest you download illegal software torrents. There are plenty of legitimate torrents there as well, such as package complimation and distribution ISOs)
[04:18] <kc8pxy> Barridus: must have been bad luck., I've been using linux for nearly 10 years now,  and by and large, i have LESS trouble with nvidia drivers than any other 3d cards i've used.
[04:19] <bluepojo> segin: I use demonoid, usually.  I'm not a big fan of public trackers.
[04:19] <snachodog> what's the url of the site where I paste error code?
[04:19] <illmortal> kc8pxy i hear that! even on windows, ati gave me problems... -.-
[04:19] <DIFH-iceroot> !pastebin | snachodog
[04:19] <bluepojo> snachodog: try sprunge.us
[04:19] <shifty-tl> grub only works when the windows xp cd is in, any suggestions :)?
[04:19] <snachodog> thank you
[04:20] <segin> bluepojo: You'll find public trackers to be exellent if you enable sorting based on available seeders.
[04:20] <bluepojo> cat error.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:20] <jpbaa12> jimisrvrox, lshw is showing a driver associated with the card.  What now?
[04:20] <cj_sze1> can ubuntu server read more than 4 G of RAM  memory ?
[04:20] <WalkTheLine> welll i have a pcmcia card i am trying to install
[04:20] <bluepojo> cj_sze1: 64bit?
[04:20] <albertolempira> hey guys, I can't get my screen dimmed when changing the brightness in my HP Pavillion dv3000 series, does anybody know how can I fix it? thanks.
[04:20] <jeeves> what would the syntax be for a shell script to grep out a string from a log file, then e-mail from the CLI?
[04:20] <lightbots> I'm having a very weird problem. whatever command I type I keep getting "bash: ls: command not found". That go for all the command Except for the "pwd" and "echo" any idea why its doing that?
[04:20] <Barridus> kc8pxy, that is entirely possible.  i just wish i could find a valid resource on linux hardware, it's hard googling for results as every chipset possible has at least 5 idiots that goofed up, spoiling search results
[04:21] <Brent2> cam any one help me?
[04:21] <kc8pxy> cj_sze1:  why not? it's a kernel option
[04:21] <WalkTheLine> an orinoco card, i was told it was a good card that linux supports
[04:21] <cj_sze1> bluepojo: 32 bit
[04:21] <WalkTheLine> i have it plugged in now, but no wireless connection
[04:21] <Brent2> i installed the fglrx ati radeon proprietary driver but am still getting a white screen when trying to start gnome. I cant run the "Restricted Driver Manager" through the console. any suggestions?
[04:21] <cj_sze1> ubuntu serve edition 8.10
[04:21] <kc8pxy> WalkTheLine:  what does dmesg say about the card?
[04:21] <DIFH-iceroot> jeeves: cat /var/log/mail.info | grep yourstring | mailx -s subject mailadress
[04:22] <shifty-tl> what happens if you have 2 MBRs in two hard drives?
[04:22] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: Check PM
[04:22] <Kraft_> Hey, where does Zsnes install to
[04:22] <Kraft_> where do I launch the application
[04:22] <kc8pxy> shifty-tl: .....  what???
[04:22] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: aplikation - games
[04:22] <DIFH-iceroot> Kraft_: or just type zsnes
[04:23] <snachodog> trying to get my xbox360 controller to work using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller and when I make I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132825/
[04:23] <jeeves> DIFH-iceroot, thanks, I'll try it
[04:23] <Kraft_> o ok
[04:23] <kc8pxy> Brent2:  what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say about it?
[04:23] <DIFH-iceroot> shifty-tl: the one is used you first boot from (bios)
[04:23] <cj_sze1> kc8pxy: so 8.10 server edition can read more than 4 G? right ?
[04:23] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: well you see I tried installing linux mint today, ended up braking grub, now I know that there is another mbr on my storage HD, don't know how to fix that.
[04:23] <DIFH-iceroot> cj_sze1: you mean handle more then 4gb ram?
[04:23] <Brent2> i'll have to reboot back into ubuntu to look
[04:23] <zee> are there any known issues with installing on a lenovo t60p?
[04:24] <zee> regular install disk freezes on install.
[04:24] <shifty-tl> DIFH-iceroot: alright I'll check boot priorities see if that helps
[04:24] <zee> alt disk installs, and then freezes on boot.
[04:24] <kc8pxy> cj_sze1:  not sure,  I've avoided 8.10 personally.  the desktops I've installed are older hardware, and my servers run gentoo :)   but the linux kernel can address up to 64GB ram,  last i looked.
[04:25] <kc8pxy> shifty-tl:  so you have your box configured how?
[04:25] <shifty-tl> not yet restarting now brb
[04:26] <jpbaa12> lshw is showing a driver assigned to my wireless card, but i;m still not seeing any available networks.  What do I need to do?
[04:26] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? Please.
[04:27] <cj_sze> sorry i got DC with my connection
[04:27] <cj_sze> yes DiCK454_
[04:27] <kc8pxy> cj_sze1:  not sure,  I've avoided 8.10 personally.  the desktops I've installed are older hardware, and my servers run gentoo :)   but the linux kernel can address up to 64GB ram,  last i looked.
[04:28] <kc8pxy> cj_sze:  but there is a selector in the menuconfig that switches between 4GB adressable, and 64GB
[04:29] <bluepojo> so... no idea which is a good place to start troubleshooting my sound?  I have a feeling I need to reinstall my sound drivers, but I don't know exactly how to do that.
[04:29] <HentaiDebian> kc8pxy, its probably enabling PAE mode for 32bit os
[04:30] <bluepojo> anyone? anyone? bueller?
[04:30] <Kraft_> when can i get linux roms for zsnes
[04:31] <hey`> snes?
[04:31] <Brent2> mininova
[04:31] <bluepojo> Kraft_: your favorite bittorrent site
[04:31] <hey`> there's an emulator for that
[04:31] <Brent2> piratebay
[04:31] <hey`> you don't need special roms
[04:31] <Kraft_> thanks haha i totally forgot about them
[04:31] <Brent2> no
[04:32] <hey`> damn I feel lonely
[04:32] <jeeves> DIFH-iceroot, thanks, again, that worked perfectly.
[04:32] <hey`> :(
[04:32] <ika_ubuntu> bluepojo
[04:32] <ika_ubuntu> hi....hey..why u lonely?
[04:32] <meshuggah> heya everyone
[04:33] <hey`> my gf, she just broke me up.
[04:33] <hey`> ...I was like I don't care, but now, I don't know.
[04:33] <hey`> *broke up with me
[04:33] <Kraft_> compiz is really cool.
[04:34] <snachodog> trying to get my Xbox 360 controller to work using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller  When I make I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132825/
[04:34] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: well it was already set up correctly, its still broken, although I can boot if I have the windows xp cd in the tray. So my first mbr doesnt work I get no partition error.
[04:34] <albertolempira> hey guys, I can't get my screen dimmed when changing the brightness in my HP Pavillion dv3000 series, does anybody know how can I fix it? thanks.
[04:34] <wolter> albertolempira, you mean, like a smooth transition of brightness levels?
[04:34] <wolter> between
[04:34] <meoblast001> hi
[04:35] <wolter> meoblast001, whats up pup?
[04:35] <meoblast001> the usb-creator is telling me that my iso is not a desktop iso... how do i fix this?
[04:35] <meoblast001> i'm feading it a debian live-cd iso
[04:36] <albertolempira> wolter, no, i can't get changed the brightness level at all... the Fn key works and the brightness bar changes but the intensity its always the same.
[04:36] <meoblast001> fixed it
[04:37] <Gentoon> I did a sudo passwd and now when that box pops up and says it needs root permissions (like for symantic) it breaks?
[04:37] <Kraft_> HAHA wow Xjump Sucks
[04:37] <wolter> albertolempira, oh, that's strange..
[04:38] <Gentoon> Anyone?
[04:38] <albertolempira> wolter, yeah, and its kind of annoying...
[04:38] <Kraft_> i got to floor 15 on xjump
[04:38] <leandro> hi
[04:39] <meshuggah> i want to use my keyboard like a virtual piano with midi notes, someone can heklp me
[04:39] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: well it was already set up correctly, its still broken, although I can boot if I have the windows xp cd in the tray. So my first mbr doesnt work I get no partition error.
[04:40] <ika_ubuntu> hey
[04:40] <wolter> albertolempira, i guess.. check on the battery preferences, there is something about the display dim and other stuff
[04:41] <shifty-tl> kc8pxy: or maybe its not there and it defaults to the second mbr which also doesn't work
[04:41] <cj_sze> ahh, okay.. thanks guys
[04:41] <cj_sze> :)
[04:41] <Kraft_> ofmg lvl 40 on xjump
[04:41] <Kraft_> you cant beat me!
[04:42] <sexcopter> hi, i'm using virtualbox to try out win7 beta (host is ubuntu 8.10), and win7 doesn't have drivers for the network card. google says to choose intel NIC, but i don't see it in the list (only PCnet-FAST III and PCnet-PCI II). any ideas how to "get more NICs"?
[04:42] <albertolempira> wolter, i have checked that already, and nothing... i think i'll have to wait 'till this get fixed...
[04:43] <Kraft_> i have 600gb of hard drive space, and a fresh install of ubuntu.  what should i install?
[04:43] <mylisto> can't compile this gd program!!!!!!!!!
[04:43] <maverick340> everytime i use the send to (evolution) plugin three forward slashed precede the email ID i want to send it to
[04:44] <maverick340> for eg, i say send to mark@ubuntu.com
[04:44] <irfan> how to use remot desktop
[04:44] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a good Desktop recorder that isn't a memory hog? Please halp!
[04:44] <maverick340> evoltuion in the composer windows opens with TO: ///mark@ubuntu.com
[04:44] <snachodog> trying to get my Xbox 360 Controller to work using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller  When I make I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132825/
[04:44] <maverick340> and obviously the mail delivery fails then ..
[04:44] <Kraft_> If it ain't broke, you obviously haven't f***ed with it enough.
[04:45] <shifty-tl> well lets see, I got a problem in which my MBR is broken, I tried to use the windows xp cd and in the recovery console, but I wasn't able to log into my c:/windows partition, it had D;/ instead, which I think doesn't exist
[04:45] <Still286ing> how to install ubuntu to a 286/8 with enough ram to almost fit the average for a standard webpage please?
[04:45] <illmortal> o.O; LOL
[04:45] <AnyaJ> is there a way to be able to tell what version of libraries you have installed on your computer?
[04:45] <irfan_> how to use desktop viwer
[04:46] <[F]ORCED-INDUCT[> ya use synaptic
[04:46] <[F]ORCED-INDUCT[> it shows the versions of the libs
[04:46] <irfan_> tell me any body
[04:46] <segin> irfan_: Desktop viewer?
[04:46] <mylisto> how do I use make?
[04:46] <segin> mylisto: make
[04:46] <irfan_> segin:yes
[04:47] <segin> iratsu: Which "Desktop Viewer"?
[04:47] <ika_ubuntu> try2free
[04:48] <mylisto> segin: its not working
[04:48] <mylisto> also tried ./configure
[04:48] <ika_ubuntu> mrded
[04:48] <mylisto> ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:48] <segin> mylisto: Try reading the error messages instead of just complaining blindly about them.
[04:49] <kindofabuzz>  ./config
[04:49] <kindofabuzz> oh nvm
[04:49] <mylisto> segin: thats the error message I got
[04:49] <kindofabuzz> AnyaJ, look in Synaptic
[04:49] <ika_ubuntu> hello...
[04:49] <segin> mylisto: well...
[04:49] <shifty-tl> ok so MBR is broken, I went to repair mode with windows cd, but I can't log into C:/Windows, it has D:/ instead, which doesn't exist. How else can I fix this? I recently installed linux mint.
[04:50] <segin> mylisto: Did you consult the source package's README, INSTALL, and/or COMPILING files (if they exist)?
[04:50] <AnyaJ> kindofabuzz, there's no command line method?
[04:50] <segin> mylisto: Not all source packages use GNU autotools, and thus do not have a configure script.
[04:50] <AnyaJ> like i know some programs have program --version
[04:51] <keen_> how do you change your default audio device?
[04:51] <Kraft_> My audio doesn't work when I try to play mario kart in zsnes!  Help me
[04:51] <kindofabuzz> AnyaJ, aptitude show <package name>
[04:51] <kindofabuzz> that will show all the deatails about the package
[04:51] <Gentoon> I did sudo passwd and now the lil GUI that asks for root permissions when running things like symantic is broken, how can i fix it?
[04:51] <segin> Kraft_: ...
[04:51] <Anna_111> shifty-tl : try fdisk /mbr at dos prompt
[04:51] <segin> Kraft_: That could be caused by nearly anything.
[04:52] <Ndshacker> hm, does nayone here feel ok with looking at my partition set up?
[04:52] <AnyaJ> thanks kindofabuzz
[04:52] <Gentoon> Doesn't seem they actually do support here
[04:52] <segin> Kraft_: Misconfigured SDL libraries, gstreamer/esd/aRts failing to release the audio device for use by other programs, etc.
[04:52] <kindofabuzz> AnyaJ, np
[04:53] <Anna_111> Ndshacker: paste it on pastebin
[04:53] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: windows right?
[04:53] <Ndshacker> mmk
[04:53] <ika_ubuntu> may i know that the video from windows can play at ubuntu?
[04:53] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, everyone here is just users like you. there are no official ubuntu reps here
[04:53] <ika_ubuntu> nate
[04:53] <joseph> hi
[04:53] <doleyb> Gentoon: people will answer questions though.... well-formed questions.
[04:53] <Anna_111> shifty-tl : well.. command prompt .. do a reboot and boot to command prompt
[04:53] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Yes I know this, what is your point/
[04:53] <joseph> who has a ps3
[04:54] <Gentoon> doleyb: Obviously not.
[04:54] <doleyb> ika_ubuntu: you can play many kinds of video, see medibuntu though.
[04:54] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, i thought you were complaining about you not getting any help or something
[04:54] <doleyb> Gentoon: trolling won't get it answered
[04:54] <Kraft_> oh well
[04:54] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: I was, this is a support channel
[04:54] <joseph> who has a laptop runing ubuntu
[04:54] <magicdanw> hey all!  i seem to be having a spontaneous problem.  when i rebooted my computer today (after some automatic updates) my sound stopped working.  does anyone know what i can do to try to fix this?
[04:54] <Gentoon> doleyb: You are trolling not me, mind your business please.
[04:54] <joseph> never update
[04:54] <magicdanw> @joseph i have a laptop running linux
[04:54] <maxagaz> what's the difference between LDAP and DNS servers ?
[04:55] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, ever thought that no one knows an answer to your problem. and remember, google is your buddie
[04:55] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: I can't boot into anything, it tells me partition is not there. Except if I have the windows xp cd in tray, so I do fdisk /mbr in msdos?
[04:55] <joseph> i do to
[04:55] <mesohorny> joseph is my bfs name
[04:55] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Go away, it is a simple question and I did google, don't assume things.
[04:55] <joseph> but my broke
[04:55] <magicdanw> anyway, does anyone have any idea why my sound card stopped producing sound?  there are no errors, just no sound out of speaker or headphone jack
[04:55] <usser> maxagaz, they are two different things :)
[04:55] <joseph> do you have a ps3
[04:55] <Anna_111> shifty-tl: sorry.. don't know what to say expect this.. do you have an external hdd case?
[04:55] <segin> magicdanw: is it muted?
[04:56] <mesohorny> yes i do
[04:56] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: no :)
[04:56] <javamonger_> Hello. I want to install ubuntu on a machine with bad memory using the BadRAM kernel patch.  How can I rebuild the ubuntu 8.10 livecd with a different kernel (or just replace the existing one with my own)?
[04:56] <doleyb> Gentoon: a well-formed question doesn't end with "is broken how can I fix it"
[04:56] <magicdanw> @segin it's not muted
[04:56] <Gentoon> doleyb: Either did my question now stfu
[04:56] <joseph> how many games do you own
[04:56] <wiredwilly> ok so where are the user names?
[04:56] <mesohorny> 11
[04:56] <magicdanw> @segin it happened right after i rebooted.  i believe some updates were installed earlier today, but i don't know what they were
[04:56] <maxagaz> usser, actually, i understand the DNS, but why is LDAP useful ?
[04:56] <segin> javamonger_: Have you conidered replacing the memory?
[04:56] <javamonger_> I already have the kernel with the BadRAM patch built
[04:56] <joseph> 12
[04:56] <javamonger_> segin: not interested
[04:56] <mesohorny> cool
[04:57] <Anna_111> shifty-tl: If your data is really important I would suggest getting the hdd out, putting it in an external enclosure and connect to your current PC to transfer all the files
[04:57] <joseph> tits
[04:57] <Gentoon> ?
[04:57] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, if you'd actuall explain your question instead of "I did sudo passwd and now the lil GUI that asks for root permissions when running things like symantic is broken, how can i fix it?' you might get better help
[04:57] <segin> javamonger_: If the memory is bad, your best bet is to simply replace the defective modules.
[04:57] <mesohorny> tits?
[04:57] <mesohorny> why did he go?
[04:57] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: yea, need to get one, untill then I can only boot with the windows cd XD
[04:57] <javamonger_> segin: not a sufficient solution.
[04:58] <Ndshacker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132831/
[04:58] <Brack101> WalkTheLine: Get it working?
[04:58] <javamonger_> segin: you don't have to be afraid of bad memory if you understand it
[04:58] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Just because you don't understand things doesn't mean it wasn't explained well. Now STFU I don't want help from you, you don't know what you are talking about.
[04:58] <Ndshacker> Made by hand, butyou get the drift :|
[04:58] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, you probably enabled the root account didn't you?
[04:58] <javamonger_> segin: and no need to waste so much
[04:58] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: weird but thats the only way I can get around it. put the win cd, wait till it times out then grub works
[04:58] <mesohorny> !list
[04:58] <Anna_111> shifty-tl.. do you have 2 physical drives C and D?
[04:58] <jpbaa1> my wireless card is not picking up any networks.  LSHW is showing a driver for it.  What now?
[04:58] <usser> maxagaz, ldap is for centralized authentication, per user restrictions etc. active directory on windows uses ldap
[04:58] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, neither do you looks like.
[04:58] <kinja-sheep> I have 1024 x 600 resolution (7" subnotebook).  Is it possible to have more resolutions?  (Not the monitor but the displaying?)
[04:58] <javamonger_> So simple question, how do I replace the kernel in the ubuntu 8.10 livecd or build my own?
[04:58] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Obviously, thats what sudo passwd does, god.
[04:58] <Swin_> I've got a failed drive I'm trying to recover data from. BIOS is detecting its label as 'BzBzBzBzBzBzBzBzBzBz BzBzBz' ;p. dmesg tells me it 'failed to IDENTIFY' so I have no access: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132829/ Can I manually specify this information somehow?
[04:59] <segin> kinja-sheep: yes
[04:59] <tritium> !attitude | Gentoon
[04:59] <meshuggah> who is the canadian speaking spannish needing help here
[04:59] <Gentoon> tritium: Please leave me alone. Thank you.
[04:59] <wiredwilly> anyone know how to backup the system
[04:59] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: yes I do, C is were the mbr was, now there is another one on D
[04:59] <kinja-sheep> segin: What is it that I'm looking for exactly?
[04:59] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, yeah, and if you googled like you said you'd see that that can break things.
[04:59] <mesohornier> better?
[04:59] <cornbread> anyone have issues with multiple keypresses in ubuntu while in microsoft VPC 2007?
[04:59] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: I obviously already know it can break things, thats why i am here. Do you have a disability or something?
[04:59] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: install linux again and it did that, I could try fixing it with Gparted but I'm scared that it'll erase my data
[05:00] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, try disabling the root account, not that hard. usually when you mess something up the simple thing to do is to reverse it
[05:00] <Brack101> cornbread: VPC isn't tested with linux...you really need to use virtualbox
[05:00] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: * I installed...
[05:00] <tritium> Gentoon: drop the attitude.
[05:00] <kindofabuzz> Gentoon, i think you do, i just told you 3 times what to do
[05:00] <segin> kinja-sheep: I don't know. I access my PC from a DEC VT100 serial dumb terminal; I don't know much of resolutions or the like :)
[05:00] <Gentoon> kindofabuzz: Thats what I am here to find out how to do, as I have already stated 6 times now, just don't talk please.
[05:00] <javamonger_> is there another chat room for more development-oriented questions?
[05:00] <cornbread> Brack101, so virtualbox is tested and runs ubuntu fine?
[05:00] <Kraft_> what is "emacs"?
[05:00] <wiredwilly> what is the problem?
[05:00] <Brack101> segin: how do you manage with only four function keys?
[05:00] <kindofabuzz> lol
[05:01] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: its alright, I
[05:01] <Brack101> cornbread: yeah, works great...uses less resources too
[05:01] <doleyb> Kraft_: emacs is an old, complex, powerful text editor program.  If you have to ask what emacs is, you probably shouldn't use emacs
[05:01] <cornbread> Brack101, awesome thanks!
[05:01] <Kraft_> well i just downloaded it for no reason.
[05:01] <shifty-tl> Anna_111: its alright, I'll fix it later, thanks though, Good night :)
[05:01] <Kraft_> oh well i have 600 GB of space.
[05:01] <Kraft_> i also tinker a lot, screw everything up, then ask for help on the forums.......thrilling.....i know.........
[05:01] <kindofabuzz> emacs is an OS in itself =)
[05:02] <kindofabuzz> Kraft_, that's how you learn
[05:02] <Anna_111> shifty-tl np
[05:02] <Brack101> cornbread: yeah no problem.  I use it every day at work and I love it
[05:02] <Kraft_> yes it is
[05:02] <wiredwilly> does anyone know how to run MS access in wine?
[05:02] <kindofabuzz> wiredwilly, why not just fine an open source alternative?
[05:03] <spamjam> does anybody know the colors for metacity in rgb so i can put them into emerald running vrunner? please :)
[05:03] <usser> wiredwilly, office 2003 should install just fine in wine
[05:03] <SandGorgon> guys.. some help please - i have particularly nasty crash where my Ubuntu Intrepid just crashes and I go to the BIOS screen after using Virtualbox in a certain way. Can anyone tell me how to get more information, so I can file a bug?
[05:03] <spamjam> the default intrepid colors
[05:03] <wiredwilly> but does access work
[05:03] <Anna_111> shifty-tl.. do you have 2 physical drives C and D? if not I would suggest not using the windows cd to login
[05:03] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering about a small music player like quark but that works
[05:03] <kindofabuzz> wiredwilly, http://www.openoffice.org/  =)
[05:04] <spamjam> L3dPlatedLinux: have you tried audacious?
[05:04] <kinja-sheep> !dpi
[05:04] <kinja-sheep> !font
[05:04] <Kraft_> are there any military channels on IRC
[05:04] <Kraft_> like marines
[05:04] <wolter> should i be able to view my own ssh server using avahi?
[05:04] <L3dPlatedLinux> yeah
[05:04] <wiredwilly> i have openoffice already but at work i use access
[05:05] <segin> Brack101: esc-# is good substitute for missing fn keys in curses apps
[05:05] <wiredwilly> i did fine the only way was to use virtualbox
[05:06] <jpbaa1> Anyone available for wireless help
[05:06] <Brack101> segin: can't you at least upgrade to a vt220?? c'mon man
[05:06] <Icebuntu> !ns
[05:06] <doleyb> !anyone
[05:07] <wiredwilly> if you have Aeros forget it
[05:07] <segin> Brack101: nah, my three connector PC is fine as it is
[05:07] <jpbaa1> how do i diagnose a wireless card not detecting any network?
[05:08] <doleyb> jpbaa1: what card (and laptop) do you have?
[05:09] <doleyb> jpbaa1: (I am afraid you'll say atheros)
[05:09] <cjsarette> what does "iwlist eth0 scan" do?
[05:09] <jpbaa1> doley - correct.  on an aspire one
[05:10] <Kurrupt> Thank you all! Good night=)
[05:10] <cjae> ok I was told here to make a url link from say /media/winblows/mymusic to my ubuntu (8.04) was to drag it onto the desktop but this is not true, this copies the folder there, I want a shortcut
[05:10] <wiredwilly> where are the settings for apache2 located?
[05:10] <jpbaa1> "Interface doesn't support scan"
[05:10] <cjae> to my ubuntu desktop that should say
[05:11] <wiredwilly> i mean the cgi and the php stuff
[05:11] <cjae> right click and drag does not work either
[05:11] <millertime_018> hey I'm having some serious computer trouble
[05:11] <Newbuntu> hey has anyone here used google chrome and if so do you think it would be posibble to tab system windows withdrop and drag in ubuntu as you can in chrome with webpages?
[05:11] <millertime_018> I lost a Built-in HDD User password
[05:12] <Reidy> Whenever I open up WoW, sometimes I can get to the ToS screen, other times I get an error and I can't open WoW. If I get to the ToS screen, it doesn't display my pointer, and after about 10-15 seconds my screen goes crazy, and eventually turns black. I have to reboot to fix this. Anyone able to help figure out the problem and solve it?
[05:12] <cjsarette> u need madwifi
[05:12] <cjsarette> jpbaa1
[05:13] <jpbaa1> cjsarette-"interface doesn't suppor scan"
[05:13] <cjsarette> ok jpbaa1, go to https://svn.madwifi.org/
[05:13] <cjsarette> and download madwifi
[05:13] <wiredwilly> hey madwifi could not install in my labtop
[05:14] <cjsarette> extract and go to folder, then do "sudo make" then "sudo make install"
[05:14] <ray_> anybody here to help on OpenLDAP
[05:14] <ray_> ???
[05:14] <ray_> ??
[05:14] <ray_> ?
[05:14] <fiber_cut> Is there a way to get better resolution on a eee pc running ubuntu other than 800x600
[05:15] <wiredwilly> there was a message saying something was broken up
[05:15] <yoophglup_> hey does anyone know about vinagre and remote desktop connection??
[05:15] <cjsarette> jpbaa1, after that, reboot and do a "modprobe ath_pci"
[05:15] <wolter> Reidy, this is not the correct place to ask this, however, try running it with -opengl flag
[05:15] <cjsarette> jpbaa1, after that it should be good to go
[05:16] <jeeves> how do I set up a VPN client on my Ubuntu laptop?
[05:16] <jpbaa1> thank you!  I'll give it a shot.  Hopefully I won't be back...  But don't go anywhere just in case:-D
[05:16] <yoophglup_> i have everything setup correctly and I can remote desktop from localhost and from a virtualPC installed on the computer, but I cant connect with other computers on my network or on the net?????
[05:16] <Reidy> @ Wolter: I am running it with the -opengl command. It works for like a second, then goes haywire.
[05:16] <wiredwilly> what works with mirc?
[05:16] <cjsarette> btw, its madwifi.org , not svn.madwifi.org, i put it wrong above
[05:17] <doleyb> fiber_cut: Most eee pcs can do better than 800x600
[05:17] <Still286ing> yeh under windows
[05:17] <wolter> Reidy, wouldn't know then.. and also
[05:17] <wolter> !tab | Reidy
[05:18] <yoophglup_> do you need to install lamp in order to use remote desktop connections?
[05:18] <jeeves> anyone?  VPN setup?
[05:18] <wiredwilly> does anyone know what works or connects to MIRC?
[05:18] <Reidy> What channel would I be able to go to that would be able to help with setting that stuff up?
[05:19] <crdlb> jpbaa1: you have an atheros 242x on intrepid?
[05:19] <yoophglup_> mirc is software used to connect to the irc network.  It is windows software.  you can use any irc client to connect to the same irc network
[05:20] <mib_1i1n9c> I am using http://www.mibbit.com/ for IRC as IRC prtocol is blocked in our college.....................I want to join #kubuntu but I a receive this msg "	[#ubuntu-proxy-users] /!\ ATTENTION /!\ This is NOT #ubuntu. | You have been sent to this channel because you are using a proxy service such as Tor or Cgi:IRC. There are better ways to be anonymous. | CGI:IRC users, try connecting to freenode via port 8000, 8001 or 800
[05:21] <L3dPlatedLinux> kinda wish audcious had a tray icon ?
[05:21] <zelda> Does anyone know if hauppauge HVR-1800 works in linux?
[05:21] <crdlb> jpbaa1: if so, there is a much easier solution than installing madwifi from source
[05:23] <Fudge> !wireless
[05:23] <jpbaa1> cjsarette - off to reboot!
[05:26] <ikabun> i dont know my laptop cannot connect wireless
[05:27] <yoophglup> so does anyone know how to get remote desktop to work?
[05:27] <XtrHotMarSpy> ikabun, is it a pcmia wireless card?
[05:27] <arogers1> I'm having some weird network activity coming from my box, wondering if somebody might be able to help me identify it. Basically just tons of RQs from my machine to random IPs on port 8500. Netstat -p doesn't show them, but wireshark and etherape do
[05:28] <Corey-Bear> Sup Everyone
[05:28] <Laurenceb> hi, I have a window hidden behind my taskbar
[05:28] <Corey-Bear> Happy Saint Pats everyone
[05:28] <Laurenceb> how can I close it?
[05:28] <arogers1> laurenceb: use the task manager
[05:28] <yoophglup> move the task bar
[05:28] <shadowh511> Laurence: save all you work and log out then back in
[05:28] <Corey-Bear> yeah
[05:28] <arogers1> under system
[05:29] <Laurenceb> well its a control thingy for google earth
[05:29] <SandGorgon> sorry for posting here guys, but i'm at a loss on what to do - on using VirtualBox 2.1.4 (a particular VM) - my host crashes and goes straight to power on (BIOS screen). How do I gather debug information, so I can file an appropriate bug - I can understand Vbox itself crashing - but taking down the host?
[05:29] <Laurenceb> each time I start google earth it appears
[05:29] <yoophglup> press ctrl alt and backspace
[05:29] <Laurenceb> tried that
[05:29] <Laurenceb> each time I start google earth it appears
[05:29] <jpbaa1> cjsarette - sadly, I return...  Still no dice
[05:29] <shadowh511> Laurenceb:its called a software bug, please file it
[05:30] <yoophglup> move your task bar then move it
[05:30] <Laurenceb> doh
[05:30] <Laurenceb> yeah that might work
[05:30] <crdlb> jpbaa1: what does 'lspci | grep -i atheros' say?
[05:30] <Laurenceb> ok... its litterally jammed at the top of my screen
[05:31] <Laurenceb> the minimize button is hidden
[05:31] <jpbaa1> cjs - 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[05:32] <yoophglup> why would something work on loopback but not on the network?
[05:32] <crdlb> jpbaa1: and this is intrepid?
[05:32] <jpbaa1> lshw shows the driver as ath_pci now
[05:32] <jpbaa1> yes
[05:32] <arogers1> can anybody help me with this network problem?
[05:32] <Laurenceb> ah got rid of it
[05:33] <Laurenceb> had to change some options in google earth and it vanished, thanks anyway
[05:33] <yoophglup> whats wrong with your network
[05:33] <arogers1> I'm having some weird network activity coming from my box, wondering if somebody might be able to help me identify it. Basically just tons of RQs from my machine to random IPs on port 8500. Netstat -p doesn't show them, but wireshark and etherape do
[05:33] <crdlb> jpbaa1: hopefully you didn't make anything worse doing whatever you just did :)
[05:33] <owl_> ?DCC SEND "๏̯͡๏﴿" 0 0 0
[05:33] <jpbaa1> as long as it's not irepparable...:-D
[05:33] <crdlb> jpbaa1: the solution is simple: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid, then go to system->admin>hw drivers and switch the driver
[05:34] <arogers1> yoophgulp?
[05:34] <arogers1> *glup
[05:34] <jpbaa1> how do i install backports?
[05:34] <sprinkmeier> arogers1, are you initiating the traffic? you might have inherited someone elses IP addressand getting noise from their P2P connections
[05:34] <SWiM> ?DCC SEND "๏̯͡๏﴿" 0 0 0
[05:34] <crdlb> jpbaa1: with any package manager
[05:35] <jpbaa1> yeah, it's currently running me in circles asking for password... but still not showing any of the unsec. networks...  i'll give it a shot
[05:36] <dolo> I can't seem to get my mic to work in game
[05:36] <arogers1> sprinkmeier : There are a lot of ICMP "destination unreachable"s coming from my machine and going outbound and a lot of random IPs sending me data inbound. What's odd is that I'm behind a NAT, so I shouldn't be getting any inbound traffic that I didn't initiate
[05:36] <xzirrow> is there anyone who can help with optimizing starting scripts ? i've got some questions ... please help
[05:36] <sprinkmeier> arogers1, check the NAT gateway?
[05:36] <arogers1> that could be it
[05:37] <crdlb> jpbaa1: you'll be switching to the ath5k driver, which will be default in jaunty
[05:37] <arogers1> I'll go take a look
[05:37] <arogers1> thanks!
[05:37] <dolo> The game im running is quake wars , any one here play or know to make the mic work?
[05:37] <arogers1> dolo: does your mic work outside of the game?
[05:37] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, optimize how?
[05:37] <dolo> yes
[05:37] <shadowh511> hey, my jaunty system refuses to install packages I want
[05:38] <shadowh511> not even bison will install
[05:38] <arogers1> if you go into the audio settings does it show that a mic exists?
[05:38] <crdlb> shadowh511: ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:38] <dolo> ya
[05:38] <arogers1> are you sure you have the volume on?
[05:38] <jpbaa1> crdlb: find it in synaptic?
[05:38] <dolo> ... yes
[05:38] <tokeefe> Has anyone else experienced ubuntu hanging upon resume when you have the fglrx ATI driver installed?
[05:38] <arogers1> had to ask, sorry
[05:38] <jpbaa1> sorry, how do i?
[05:38] <arogers1> not sure, that's weird
[05:39] <crdlb> jpbaa1: sure, or use 'sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid'
[05:39] <Dolo> well the game by default is oss but i had some problems so i switched everything to asla
[05:39] <Dolo> but the mic no longer seems to work
[05:39] <Dolo> not being recognized by the game
[05:39] <arogers1> this is just a regular mic port mic right, not like a USB mic or anything?
[05:39] <Fudge> hi, i tried to build build-essential with apt-get after changing my source.list to cd rom in /etc/apt/source.list, but when the cd is asked for, i hit enter and kit continues to want the cd. i can browse the cd and it is mounted. why is this happening, ubuntu 8.10 amd64
[05:40] <Dolo> ive tryed altering the game cfg with no luck its as thought the game no longer sees my mic
[05:40] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, i'm currently using my laptop with ubuntu in two ways : at work for web development , at home - to see movies & etc, and at home i don't need apache or mysql starting during boot. Is there any way to make smth like 'booting profiles' ?
[05:40] <Dolo> naw pluged in the red hole
[05:40] <arogers1> sounds like you should switch back to oss when you play the gamee
[05:40] <arogers1> or was it having problems in-game with it?
[05:40] <arogers1> *game
[05:40] <Dolo> well in oss i got crackling noises
[05:41] <Dolo> reason i switched to asla
[05:41] <arogers1> not sure than
[05:41] <arogers1> *then. that's weird
[05:41] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, runlevels?traditionally 5 = X, 3 = console, but there's no reason (other than sanity :-) why you can't change those. I'd put something in /etc/rc.local that detects you're at the office and then fires off apache etc.
[05:41] <arogers1> not really my area of expertise : (
[05:41] <Dolo> also alsa gave me 5 second delays in sound
[05:41] <Dolo> not asla
[05:41] <Dolo> the first one oss
[05:41] <Dolo> so i swithed to asla and everything runs great
[05:41] <Dolo> but for some reason no mic
[05:42] <Dolo> ive tested it with mic capture and the mic test in sounds
[05:42] <Fudge> anyone know why building packages from cd with apt-get woudl result in the cd beign asked for all the time even when its inserted?
[05:42] <gRunt> Hey all can anyone recommend a good media player for music that acts a lot like winamp with resizing and moving etc. I might end up using amarok but im not a huge fan of the way it looks
[05:43] <sprinkmeier> Fudge, does the CD mount at the expected mountpoint?
[05:43] <Fudge> hi KillerOrca,
[05:43] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, may be somehow i can set up some my vars at grub for boot ? and afterthat modify different /etc/init.d/scripts, to vary from my vars
[05:43] <Kraft_> @ gRunt xine or totem
[05:43] <Fudge> sprinkmeier i dont hear the cd spin up
[05:43] <gRunt> Kraft_, thanks will google em now and try and get some screenies
[05:43] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, yeah... check /proc/cmdline in the rc scripts... nice one!
[05:44] <Fudge> im trying to install build-essential gcc and other deps to get madwifi going sprinkmeier
[05:44] <Reidy> Anyone able to help me out with a World of Warcraft related question?
[05:44] <mrded> тутурутутутутууууу
[05:44] <mrded> !!
[05:44] <sprinkmeier> Fudge, does apt expect the cd to be mounted at /media/cdrom or something? and does the CD mount to /media/Ubuntu8 or something else (i.e. using labels)
[05:44] <mrded> есть кто русский?
[05:44] <KillerOrca> I am running apt-get upgrade && install, but I have 6 packages that won't upgrade, any ideas?
[05:44] <sergey> да
[05:44] <mrded> забавно
[05:45] <sergey> не то слово! )
[05:45] <Flannel> !ru | sergey, mrded
[05:45] <asturiano> alguien sabe xk el irc-hispano no va
[05:45] <Fudge> sprinkmeier thats possible, i didnt think of that, how would i cahnge where it wants it to be mounted. can i cahgne in the source.list cdrom to the label?
[05:45] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, do you need an "apt-get update" there somewhere?
[05:45] <Fudge> sorry change i mean
[05:45] <sergey> ubottu ОК !
[05:45] <sprinkmeier> Fudge, cheat... "sudo ln -s /media/whatever /media/cdrom" then run apt again
[05:45] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, ah I meant update
[05:46] <root> hello
[05:46] <doleyb> Hiya ROOT
[05:46] <Fudge> ah yes thankyou sprinkmeier
[05:46] <Fudge> :)
[05:46] <Fudge> very much
[05:46] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, ok i'll try - thanks for that '/proc/cmdline' stuff... but i still got _huge_ problem - in my work i intend to use VirtualBox, to run another systems, to see my sites in different browser. So VirtualBox using DKMS to make smth with vboxdrv& etc...
[05:47] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, "wont update" == some kind of error message?
[05:47] <shadowh511> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/344007 help plz
[05:47] <nefrin> Greetings: I was recently trying to uninstall OpenOffice 2.4 and upgrade to 3.0, however after I uninstalled, now my computer won't work. I get the ubuntu splash screen, and then just a black screen with a mouse curser. Right now I'm on live CD
[05:47] <kindofabuzz> new webmin is out for those of you that care =)
[05:47] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, and it taking too long to make it. Have any ideas - how can i customize it ? DKMS especcialy ?
[05:47] <Guest59367> What is here makes?
[05:48] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, yeah there is an error message, but it seems unrelated to the packages that won't update, I'll paste it
[05:48] <gRunt> Okay one more question. I have this machine on dual boot, while linux is my main OS I keep all my media in a seperate NTFS parition so both my operating systems can read from it. Is there a way I can place a shortcut to a folder in that parition without having to always mount that drive if that makes any sense.
[05:48] <nefrin> ok, got flood botted for my problem: Ubuntu splash will show on boot up, but then I just get a black screen with a mouse pointer
[05:48] <sprinkmeier> xzirrow, sorry, don't even know hwat DKMS is (virtualisation stuff?) I'd be tempted to park the cirtualisation stuff on a desktop PC (better disk bandwidth) and ssh/X into it while at the office.
[05:48] <Newbuntu> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:48] <Newbuntu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:49] <Newbuntu> anyone explain that too me
[05:49] <Newbuntu> i am root
[05:49] <shadowh511> Newbuntu: close synaptic, update managet, aptitude, anything that uses apt
[05:49] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, http://paste.ubuntu.com/132852/
[05:49] <Brack101> nefrin: moust pointer?  or text cursor?
[05:49] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, use automount to mount on demand, or mangle fstab to mount at boot. recommend mounting NTFS ro
[05:49] <Newbuntu> haha cheers shadow
[05:49] <nefrin> Brack101 - mouse pointer on a black screen
[05:50] <xzirrow> sprinkmeier, DKMS - Dynamic Kernel Module blah-blah . But still thanks
[05:50] <Brack101> nefrin: sounds like your xorg is borked
[05:50] <nefrin> Brack101 - the changes I made prior to this was uninstalling OpenOffice 2.4 to install 3.0
[05:50] <Brack101> nefrin: right I saw that
[05:50] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, is automount an app? Again if so how would I create an icon that links to a folder from that partition. I tried creating a new launcher to the folder in that parition but I must have stuffed up the path it didn't work/
[05:50] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, "404 Not Found" old repo?
[05:51] <nefrin> Brack101: can you help me fix my xorg?
[05:51] <KillerOrca> sprinkmeier, yeah, but it looks unrelated to the non-upgrading packages
[05:51] <shadowh511> befrin, in the shape of an x?
[05:51] <Brack101> nefrin: yeah...when you boot up push control alt f1 to get a command prompt
[05:51] <Brack101> then I forget how to reconfigure xorg
[05:51] <nefrin> shadow511: no, it's just a standard mouse pointer
[05:52] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, automount is a daemon that monitors directories. If the directory is accesses it mounts some resource, then unmounts it when the directory goes idle again. Used to be used to mount CD's etc. before HAL-udev magic came along.
[05:52] <gRunt> Would I find that in synaptics or would I need to configure that from a source?
[05:53] <Brack101> nefrin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <nefrin> Brack101: right now while I'm in Live CD?
[05:53] <sprinkmeier> KillerOrca, "The following packages have been kept back:" implies you're running options that don't want to update everything to the latest (last time I saw something like that was RHEL, didn't update kernel by default). Sorry, best guess....
[05:53] <Brack101> nefrin: no you boot to your HD then do control alt f1, login and then do that
[05:53] <Brack101> nefrin, oh but then do /etc/init.d/gdm stop first
[05:53] <Brack101> then reboot
[05:54] <chaca_ucke> ce_cari_cinta
[05:54] <nefrin> Brack101 - so do the /etc/init.d/gdm stop now in Live CD, then reboot, do the cntl alt f1 and then the sudo command, correct?
[05:55] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, looks like it's called "autofs" now, so "sudp apt-get install autofs". I think that's the package I used to use but it's been a few years
[05:55] <tokeefe> I think I'm at a loss here
[05:55] <Brack101> nefrin, no you do both on the hdd
[05:55] <Flannel> KillerOrca: do a dist-upgrade
[05:55] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, a better soln for you might be to simply mount the NTFS partition at bootup, mangle /etc/fstab to do this
[05:55] <gRunt> There is also gnome volume manager in synaptics that seems to do a similar thing will try autofs first cheers
[05:55] <gRunt> okay
[05:55] <nefrin> Brack101: rgr, anything else I should do before I reboot and attempt that? I'm gonna drop out of chat to do it
[05:56] <Brack101> nefrin: check PM
[05:56] <tokeefe> having my fglrx driver enabled causes a resume from suspend to hang
[05:56] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, could you elaborate a bit on the mangle /etc/fstab for me I've not used terminal a lot.
[05:56] <Flannel> sprinkmeier, KillerOrca: kernel metapackages (linux-generic) change their dependencies (linux-image-[new-version]-generic instead of [oldversion]).  upgrade only installs newer versions of pacakges you have installed (ups the versions), dist-upgrade will also bring in new depends if needed.  That's why you need to use dist-upgrade to grab new kernels
[05:56] <tokeefe> and not having it enabled will allow the machine to resume, but the touchpad is unresponsive
[05:56] <tokeefe> I guess the touchpad issue was addressed in jaunty
[05:57] <crdlb> tokeefe: that's hardly unprecedented
[05:57] <crdlb> tokeefe: the video driver should have no effect on the touchpad
[05:57] <tokeefe> right
[05:57] <KillerOrca> Flannel, that seems to have done it, thanks
[05:57] <tokeefe> when the video driver is enabled, the machine won't come back from suspend _at all_
[05:57] <tokeefe> just black screen
[05:58] <tokeefe> no Ctrl+Alt+F4
[05:58] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, /etc/fstab is a list of resources (and mountpoints) that you wnat the kernel to know about and, optionally, to mount on boot. /etc/mtab contains the currently mounted resources in a format that you can just about cut-and-paste into fstab. I sufggest you mount the NTFS partition, then check mtab and copy the appropriate line into fstab (doing backups all the way of couorse :-)
[05:58] <tokeefe> have to hard shutdown/reboot
[05:58] <smikec> I have managed to lock my default username out of users-admin. I can access it using su root. Any ideas how to allow my default username back into users-admin to allow changes?
[05:58] <gRunt> thanks sprinkmeier will give it a look now
[05:58] <tokeefe> however, when the video driver is not enabled, the machine will resume.... but this reveals yet another problem, that is, the touchpad doesn't work
[05:59] <tokeefe> So the ATI driver affects the machine from coming back from resume
[05:59] <sprinkmeier> smikec, sounds like the default user has been kicked out of the adm group (membership of this group is used by sudo to allow superuser access).
[06:00] <yoophglup> is there anyway to set one workspace different then the other 3 like no icons or menu bars
[06:00] <sprinkmeier> smikec, "sudo usermod -aG adm USERNAME" adds USERNAME back into the adm group. log out of X and log in again for changes to take effect.
[06:01] <crdlb> tokeefe: ah, I see; the ATI driver suspend problem is pretty much unfixable since the driver is proprietary
[06:01] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, would it be likely to be the last line in my mtab....that being /dev/sda4 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[06:01] <tokeefe> yayyyy
[06:01] <sprinkmeier> smikec, (just checked sudoers... the correct group name is "admin", not "adm". not sure what the latter is for)
[06:02] <tokeefe> unfixable!!!!
[06:02] <Flannel> sprinkmeier, smikec: it's not adm, it's admin.  And a better way to do it is `adduser user admin`
[06:02] <KillerOrca> new question then, anyone currently using ushare and know what the new repos are?
[06:02] <smikec> I have rechecked "administer the system" under user privileges and my username is checked under the admin group
[06:03] <L3dPlatedLinux> is there a list of repo's that are not on the sources list  that should be to make ubuntu that much more awesome
[06:03] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, yeah... but it's using FUSE rather then NTFS directly. try something like "/dev/sda4 /media/shared_ntfs     ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46,ro 0  1"
[06:03] <doleyb> L3dPlatedLinux: well there's medibuntu..
[06:03] <gRunt> thanks sprinkmeier ill try it now and reboot....wish me luck :)
[06:04] <horley> can anyone tell me why i the sound on VLC player and MPlayer stopped working?  the rest of the sounds work.. and so does the default movie player (but that player doesnt work well)
[06:04] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, no need to reboot. run "sudo mount -a" to mount all things that are suppsoed to be auto-mounted.
[06:04] <smikec> It is still not working, when I run admin-users in the terminal I get some critical errors "Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated"
[06:04] <gRunt> ok cool well I cant save the fstab I guess I need to change the permissions first :s
[06:04] <sprinkmeier> smikec, does "id" tell you you're in the group now?
[06:05] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, don't change the permissions. use sudo to edit it: "sudo name /etc/fstab"
[06:05] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, oops: "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[06:05] <gRunt> yeah as I hit enter i realised i didnt sudo it
[06:06] <nefrin> Brack101: reconfigure xserver-xorg did not solve my issue, still get the black screen with mouse pointer
[06:06] <Brack101> oh alright
[06:06] <Brack101> no idea
[06:07] <smikec> groups=4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),26(tape),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),106(fuse),108(lpadmin),114(netdev),123(admin),124(sambashare)
[06:07] <nefrin> Brack101: duh, just remebered that I have a backup of my xorg.conf file saved to the hard drive
[06:08] <Brack101> well that's probly not gonna help
[06:08] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, when I try to unmount the volume to test sudo mount -a it tells me the volume isnt mounted even though it is...
[06:08] <Brack101> since reconfig should have fixed your xorg.conf
[06:08] <Brack101> but try it
[06:08] <sprinkmeier> smikec, that's a healthy list of groups.... are you running "sudo admin-users"? (note that most gtk warnings are harmless and might be just noise)
[06:08] <nefrin> Brack101: ok, guess that idea is borked
[06:08] <Brack101> nefrin: no try it out
[06:09] <Brack101> nefrin: you're on the live cd, might as well
[06:09] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, might be a FUSE artefact.... how are you unmounting? "sudo umount /media/mountpoint" usually works for me
[06:09] <nefrin> Brack101: how do I do it from Live CD?
[06:09] <gRunt> I was just doing it via the desktop sprinkmeier will try console
[06:09] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, if you're using the same directory mountpoint in fstab that you've currently got mounted then unmount is likely to get confused. comment out the new line in fstab, then try unmounting again.
[06:10] <Brack101> nefrin: restore your xorg.conf backup
[06:10] <horley> horley:
[06:10] <gRunt> Okies, also when I run that command I get
[06:10] <gRunt> scott@linuxbox:~$ sudo mount -a
[06:10] <gRunt> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/shared_ntfs: No such file or directory
[06:10] <gRunt> scott@linuxbox:~$
[06:10] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, (unmount will see ntfs being used in fstab when the thing is currently FUSE mounted.... or somesuch)
[06:10] <FloodBot1> gRunt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:10] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, need to create /media/shared_ntfs  (unlike magic HAL mounts the directory does not get created for you)
[06:10] <smikec> sprinkmeier, sudo opens users-admin but I can not change anything or unlock root like I was able to do just post install, before I fiddled with the permissions.
[06:11] <sophia> Anyone can help pls..  my title bar disappeared in desktop
[06:11] <kohlrak> smikec: how the hell did you do that?
[06:11] <sophia> even minimize,maximize options in a window
[06:11] <KillerOrca> sophia, what do you mean by title bar?
[06:12] <sprinkmeier> smikec, "sudo users-admin" shouldn't need to be unlocked, it should already be running with root priv. out of ideas for the moment....
[06:12] <kohlrak> sophia: Do also mean the applications, places, and systems?
[06:12] <smikec> kohlrak: unchecked "Administer the system" under all users except root user
[06:12] <gRunt> How do I create /media/shared_ntfs I mean I know I can make a folder in the media directory but I don't see how that works....
[06:12] <kohlrak> smikec: it might be possible to login to root using grub =p
[06:12] <rww> gRunt: sudo mkdir /media/shared_ntfs
[06:12] <rww> =/
[06:13] <QPrime> kohlrak: I think sophia means the window decorations
[06:13] <sophia> killer0rca: In which there will the all menu options like shutdown...firefox...etc
[06:13] <gRunt> well that makes sense rww I just dont see how that then links to my parition but ill give it a go
[06:13] <smikec> thanks for your help sprinkmeier
[06:13] <KillerOrca> sophia, so the top panel?
[06:13] <rww> gRunt: it doesn't unless you modify fstab to make it (or use mount to do it)
[06:13] <sophia> killer0rca: ya
[06:13] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, /etc/fstab provides the link
[06:13] <smikec> kohlrak: I can login to root only via terminal
[06:14] <sophia> killer0rca: how to get it back?
[06:14] <KillerOrca> sophia, well what was the last thing you did before it went away?
[06:14] <gRunt> Yep it just worked I didnt have the partition mounted but already had the fstab uncommented just went back to my desktop and its there thanks! Anyway to hide the drive on the desktop though I'm not interested in the drive itself only in the folders I am linking instead.
[06:14] <sophia> killer0rca: typed compiz in terminal
[06:15] <QPrime> sophia: using compiz?
[06:15] <QPrime> yup that will do it.  ;)
[06:15] <kohlrak> smikec, so you mean to tell me that when you turn it off you cannot get into root when you turn it back on, that the debug menu or whatever it's called (i foget off hand) does not show up or does not work?
[06:15] <onats1> how do i update my apt-sources via comamnd line?
[06:15] <sprinkmeier> smikec, anything in /var/log/messages? (wild thought: something like /etc/sudoers file permissions got whacked and the system is refusing to use it, hence admin group membership isn't working)
[06:15] <gRunt> !permissions
[06:16] <kohlrak> sophia: type: sudo killall compiz
[06:16] <sophia> how to get it back now?
[06:16] <KillerOrca> sophia, if your card isn't up to snuff compiz won't function right, so I would try disabling it, call up a terminal with alt-f2, I beleive
[06:16] <kohlrak> sophia: it might not work entirely, but the appearances manager's last tab could also fix it
[06:16] <crdlb> sophia: what video card do you have?
[06:17] <smikec> kohlrak: Havent tried any debug menu, just the graphical logon doesnt work
[06:17] <sophia> killer0rca: It says no process to kill
[06:17] <crdlb> kohlrak: there is _no_ reason to use sudo to kill compiz
[06:17] <kohlrak> smikec: ok... So, if you can login with a terminal, have you tried visudo?
[06:18] <crdlb> kohlrak: secondly, compiz is a shell script; compiz.real is the real binary
[06:18] <kohlrak> crdlb: really? i never bothered to check what user starts it
[06:18] <onats1> my computer at home just restarted.. i can't connect using tightvnc right now.. how do i force login onto the desktop, given i have terminal access only?
[06:18] <KillerOrca> sophia, hmm, have you just tried rebooting?
[06:18] <sophia> killer0rca: tried but no use
[06:19] <kohlrak> onats1: i really don't think you can... If you can, it's proably really hacky and dangerous. XD
[06:19] <crdlb> sophia: go to system > preferences > appearance > visual effects
[06:19] <crdlb> sophia: set it to NOne
[06:20] <ScottG489> How can I forward sound to another computer?
[06:21] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: with cable or software /
[06:21] <smikec> kohlrak: no I haven't tried visudo, im checking the messages log now
[06:21] <sophia> crdlb: No preference option here
[06:21] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: What do you mean?
[06:21] <gRunt> Hey sprinkmeier just had to log in and out as I was testing something seems now when I try and access /media/shared_ntfs it says I can't view the contents of the file as I don't have permission, can I simply chmod -r the folder?
[06:21] <KillerOrca> sophia, have you also tried clicking on the desktop to add a panel in manually?
[06:21] <onats1> kholrak, so that means i cant vnc to home once its restarted?:(
[06:22] <crdlb> sophia: do you see System?
[06:22] <kohlrak> smikec: basically, visudo (if that's the command, i can't remember) opens the file that has lists the permissions for "sudo access"
[06:22] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: wforward sound to 2nd PC with cable or software ?
[06:22] <sophia> crdlb: System option is there when i right click on desktop
[06:23] <smikec> sprinkmeir: can't seem to find anything that looks fishy in the log
[06:23] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, you have to mess with the mount options, they overrise the directory permissions. the "gid=46" was supposed to set the group to something you belong to, check that it does
[06:23] <kohlrak> onats1: not really... If you have your computer auto login to a user account you can simply login using a terminal and start the vnc daemon, but i don't think you can force login from terminal
[06:23] <crdlb> sophia: are you using gnome?
[06:23] <sophia> crdlb: yes
[06:23] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: What do you mean by cable?
[06:23] <crdlb> sophia: then there shouldn't be a 'system' in the desktop right click menu
[06:23] <onats1> kohlrak, well i can ssh to my PC now..
[06:24] <sprinkmeier> smikec, out of ideas again then....
[06:24] <onats1> is that any help?
[06:24] <crdlb> sophia: there should, however, be a 'change desktop background' item, which we can use. so if you see that, click on it
[06:24] <gRunt> can I change the gid to something like 100 which is users sprinkmeier ?
[06:24] <kohlrak> onats1: only if a user is already logged in graphically
[06:24] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, yes.
[06:25] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: RCA cables, old school style\
[06:25] <KillerOrca> onats, are you using Putty to ssh in?\
[06:25] <onats> KillerOrca, yes
[06:25] <kohlrak> onats: you COULD try startx, but then there's alot more you'd have to do, and i'm not sure you can do it all from the terminal
[06:25] <onats> kohlrak, i'm sure at home on screen, its already displaying the login screen
[06:25] <smikec> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:25] <sprinkmeier> ScottG489, IIRC X has the ability to forward sound, but everyone just bypasses it to get to /dev/alsa-oss-pulse-whatever_were_using_this_week. streaming audio?
[06:26] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: Still dont know what RCA cables are :/
[06:26] <sophia> crdlb: i got top menu by typing xfce4-panel, But in terminal i m not getting maximize and min option
[06:26] <kohlrak> onats: that's true... basically... you gotta get past the login screen first then the rest is easy =p
[06:26] <KillerOrca> onats, so you can ssh in type in your login name and password and login?
[06:26] <crdlb> sophia: xfce4 is not gnome
[06:26] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, that works but that folder is empty, before when I was manually mounting it it had all my music in it......I deleted the link to it on my desktop but that is all, does the parition normally get wiped or is that because the link was established after I copied all the files over to it?
[06:26] <onats> KillerOrca, yes
[06:26] <kohlrak> smikec: is that how it was when you opened it up?
[06:26] <nefrin> Brack101: still didn't work, I'm up on a laptop now, but the computer with the problem still has the problem
[06:26] <KillerOrca> onats, then you get your prompt at the terminal?
[06:26] <crdlb> sophia: what video card do you have?
[06:26] <ScottG489> sprinkmeier: Well im using NX rootless to send single windows to my laptop from my desktop. I tried enableing multimedia support but the sound still plays on my desktop
[06:26] <smikec> kohlrak: yes
[06:26] <onats> KillerOrca, yes
[06:27] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, did you run "sudo mount -a"? what does "mount" and "df" say?
[06:27] <Brack101> nefrin well at least we know it's not x11 :)
[06:27] <nefrin> Brack101: any other ideas?
[06:27] <SunnyDP> ScottG489: red, black, yellow ?
[06:27] <kohlrak> smikec: that's weird... that should mean sudo should work for ALL users
[06:27] <glick> hey, does anyone know of any motion detection software?
[06:27] <sprinkmeier> ScottG489, BT headphones :-)
[06:27] <Brack101> nefrin: check syslog, see what's giving you errors at boot time
[06:27] <glick> i want my webcam to take a picture if it detects motion and send it to an email addy
[06:28] <onats> glick, are you using webcam?
[06:28] <sophia> crdlb: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[06:28] <glick> yes onats
[06:28] <Brack101> nefrin: control alt f1, login sudo nano /var/log/syslog
[06:28] <KillerOrca> onats, this might help http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/6
[06:28] <doleyb> glick: the package is called motion
[06:28] <kohlrak> smikec: i'm gonna check something quick
[06:28] <onats> glick, try zoneminder. i haven't completey set it up though
[06:28] <onats> thanks KillerOrca
[06:28] <smikec> kohlrak: sudo is working for users-admin, except a lot is grayed out versus using su root to gain access to it
[06:28] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, http://pastebin.com/d2237db0b thats the result of mount and df
[06:29] <crdlb> sophia: open a terminal and run 'gtk-window-decorator --replace &'
[06:29] <nefrin> Brack101: 5333 lines, am I looking for anything in particular?
[06:29] <glick> hmm thanks doleyb and onats
[06:29] <SandGorgon> anybody know how to generate kernel dumps with kdump?
[06:29] <ScottG489> SunnyDP: Oh, no over the net
[06:29] <kohlrak> smikec: that's really odd... That means the permissions of the sudoers themselves is what's broken
[06:29] <ScottG489> sprinkmeier: whats that?
[06:29] <SunnyDP> ScottG489:  ahh ok, not too sure
[06:30] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, line 16, still seems to be mounted using FUSE rather than the line out of fstab.
[06:30] <gRunt> :s
[06:30] <Brack101> nefrin: yeah most recent boot time, if you forgot, make a note of it when you reboot
[06:30] <kohlrak> ah wait
[06:30] <sprinkmeier> Scott_Dude25, blue-tooth headphones
[06:30] <smikec> kolrak: it was a fresh install tonight, maybe reinstalling is the easier fix
[06:30] <Brack101> nefrin: particularly around the time your problem happens
[06:30] <kohlrak> smikec: i misread your file.
[06:30] <horley> does anyone know how to get the wireless card to start up on boot?  i would also need to keep the same ip address somehow (from my router)
[06:30] <kohlrak> smikec: you know how to use vim, right?
[06:31] <smikec> no
[06:31] <glick> those tools all look very complex, isnt there anything simpler
[06:31] <Brack101> going to bed
[06:31] <Brack101> night
[06:31] <glick> for a simple single webcam?
[06:31] <centHOGG> hi, i have a question about a particular modprobe at startup... do I put that in init.d? thx in advance
[06:31] <onats> KillerOrca, this still requires me to administer via GUI, which i dont have access to right now
[06:31] <kohlrak> smikec: it's a sort of gedit that runs in the terminal
[06:31] <smikec> ok
[06:31] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, this is the dump of my /etc/fstab to make sure I put it all in correctly http://pastebin.com/d2ebe32e9
[06:31] <sprinkmeier> horley, the second is easy... assign a static IP address, or tell your router to assign a static DHCP lease.
[06:32] <KillerOrca> onats, this should allow you to get in via GUI after you follow it, all you have to figure out how to do GUI-less is install x11vnc
[06:32] <kohlrak> smikec: hit i, then hit the down arrow until you're on a blank line, if that doesn't work (last line has text), move to the end of that line and hit enter
[06:32] <chronos> Has anyone been having stability issues lately? I updated my Intrepid and when I did, programs have started randomly crashing, disappearing, etc. Sometimes my computer just locks ups for fun. What gives?
[06:32] <kohlrak> smikec: then enter the following line: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:32] <nefrin> Brack101: dhcdbd message handler not found under/&?
[06:33] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, OK... so "sudo umount /dedia/shared_ntfs" verify that it's gone, then "sudo mount -a" and it should be back, but this time without the FUSE stuff (OK, I'm running 8.04 and I don't have the FUSE stuff on my automatically-mounted NTFS partition. I guess it's possible that 8.10 is different....)
[06:33] <smikec> kohlrak: still in visudo
[06:33] <KillerOrca> also how to add a script to auto-startup
[06:33] <doleyb> chronos: no i am fine
[06:33] <kohlrak> smikec: ok, now hit escape, then !wq then hit enter
[06:33] <kohlrak> smikec: did visudo quit or did it give you an error message?
[06:33] <noren> chronos: did u updated to jaunty lately
[06:33] <BigMoopies> Is there any real reason for me to keep powernowd , for it's CPU scaling on my desktop?  It slowed me down by tons.
[06:34] <chronos> noren: No, i just updated packages in Intrepid.
[06:34] <doleyb> BigMoopies: I have also noticed a counterproductive result from powernowd (and also guidance-power-manager)
[06:34] <chronos> Like right then, my audio player just died. No error message or anything. Just dropped away
[06:34] <noren> chronos: did u had the prerealease option checked
[06:34] <sprinkmeier> smikec, you can run "sudo env EDITOR=nano visudo" to use nano instead of vi when editing sudoers. friendlier...
[06:34] <BigMoopies> doleyb, A counter who ?
[06:35] <horley> sorry irc keeps resetting me.. does anyone know how to get the wireless card to start up on boot?  i would also need to keep the same ip address somehow (from my router)
[06:35] <doleyb> BigMoopies: counter-productive.  Meaning that using it was worse than not using it.
[06:35] <chronos> Sure didn't noren I know better than alphas and betas
[06:36] <BigMoopies> doleyb, That's what I thought myself.  I wish I had known what was causing my system to run like WindowsXP after 5 months of it being installed before I looked up "powernowd"
[06:36] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, that is what I did last time, just to make sure I unmounted then ran a mount and df command I think it looks ok did you just want to verify line 16 still mentions fuse thats all.
[06:36] <gRunt> http://pastebin.com/d5afd6c98
[06:36] <sprinkmeier> horley, the second is easy... assign a static IP address, or tell your router to assign a static DHCP lease. the first part probably requires mangling /etc/network/interfaces
[06:36] <BigMoopies> doleyb, But besides that, There is no real reason for me to keep it?  No over heating? blah blah ?
[06:36] <doleyb> BigMoopies: well I'm on a laptop so its kinda different.  And the only time it makes problem is flash movies on web.
[06:37] <doleyb> BigMoopies: you can run lmsensors and check if heating seems to be a problem, but probably it won't be
[06:37] <smikec> kohlraek: ran vim, typed i for insert, entered line stated, esc, !wq, enter, output=shell returned 127
[06:37] <kohlrak> smikec: any accompanying text or just 127?
[06:37] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, NTFS seems to be gone. try the "sudo mount -a" now to see it it comes back (and what it looks like)
[06:38] <BigMoopies> doleyb, I installed lm-sensor and all, however is there anything for a graphic to use it?  Maybe gkrealm ?
[06:38] <gRunt> sprinkmeier,  yeah just tried it comes back BUT i still don't have permission to view it, which is stupid group 100 is users and I ticked both my account and root to be members just to be safe...
[06:38] <chronos> Is there a log file I can check to see why programs just die?
[06:38] <horley> sprinkmeier: for some reason my /etc/network/interfaces is pretty small compared to examples ive seen on the web, but i think you are right..  i will have to look into the static DHCP lease but it makes sense..
[06:38] <BigMoopies> graphic = GUI
[06:38] <doleyb> BigMoopies: yes there are many graphical things to display it, including kgrellem
[06:38] <Ndshacker> is 70 Gb sufficient for the root of Ubuntu
[06:38] <doleyb> BigMoopies: or gkrellem or whatever it's called
[06:38] <gRunt> that said sprinkmeier its been mounted in fuse again..
[06:38] <Ndshacker> i have 160 for downloads
[06:39] <crdlb> Ndshacker: that's bigger than my HDD
[06:39] <doleyb> Ndshacker: More than enough, 10 gig would be enough basically
[06:39] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, did you log out and in again? without that the changed group membership will not take effect.
[06:39] <Ndshacker> mmk
[06:39] <BigMoopies> doleyb, OK.  This would be as good as using "SpeedFan" in Windows ?
[06:39] <doleyb> Ndshacker: even 1 gig can be enough
[06:39] <crdlb> Ndshacker: assuming you mean GB not Gb
[06:39] <nefrin> Brack101: not seeing anything like errors or warnings except the dhcdbd thing
[06:39] <halpmai> Hey, I'm trying to install grub from the ubuntu live cd and when I type "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1" I get this error "Error 15: File not found"
[06:39] <gRunt> ahh no I didnt brb
[06:39] <Ndshacker> Er yeah
[06:39] <Ndshacker> The bigger one :)
[06:39] <Ndshacker> even 70 gigbits would be enough I think
[06:39] <nefrin> halpmai: trying doing just find /grub/stage1
[06:40] <Ndshacker> about 9.5 Gigabytes :p
[06:40] <smikec> kohlrak: "shell returned 127" thats it
[06:40] <sprinkmeier> horley, ....interfaces is usually tiny, basically "do everything automagically (via DHCP), get passwords from the keyring if/when needed". Automatically starting wireless usually requires a WEP/WPA key, assigning static IP addresses means more lines....
[06:40] <kohlrak> smikec: very unusual error... looking it up
[06:40]  * chronos kicks his computer as his dice game dies
[06:40] <halpmai> nefrin, Same error.
[06:41] <BigMoopies> doleyb, I actually don't see heat/fans on it
[06:41] <BigMoopies> (gkrellm)
[06:41] <horley> sprinkmeier: thanks for the help!  i think i can figure it out..
[06:41] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, it didnt even mount upon logging in this time
[06:41] <kohlrak> smikec: are you still in visudo or did it leave?
[06:41] <sLaeYa> hi I have just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu 8.10 - which worked seemlessly and then ISPconfig - I am now having a problem with bind9 failing on boot and am unsure how to fix this problem, here is a snippet of my syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/132863/
[06:41] <smikec> kohlrak: that line %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:41] <smikec>  is in visudo
[06:42] <nefrin> halpmai: I had that error awhile ago, meant that my grub files had be reconfigured and moved too far down the HDD to be read by the bios and I needed to reinstall and setup proper partitions. Beyond doing that, I'm at a loss
[06:42] <kohlrak> smikec: is that line saved though? so that you see it again if you exited and reentered visudo?
[06:42] <gRunt> That said sprinkmeier sudo mount -a worked and permissions are fine, it just didn't auto mount for some reason, or will it only mount after a reboot and not a login/out
[06:42] <smikec> kohlrak: it has always been in visudo
[06:43] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, correct. bootup runs "mount -a" which examines fstab. reboot to confirm, but it should work now.
[06:43] <kohlrak> smikec: then just exit visudo and try to do your thing and tell me if you sitll have problems
[06:44] <gRunt> Thanks, lastly how do I then make a link (or yes being the windows newb I still am) a shortcut to a folder in that file, is it as simple as making a launcher that points to /media/shared_ntfs/foldername?
[06:44] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, was able to confirm myself thanks for all the help!
[06:45] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, create a soft-link and drag it onto the toolbar. just checked it, works.
[06:45] <smikec> kohlrak: still says no access from the gui
[06:45] <kohlrak> smikec: i'm curious... you can use su root from a GUI terminal app, right?
[06:45] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, alternatively... make it one of the "places" nautilus uses, that way it pops up in open/close/save dialogues
[06:45] <fool_> does anyone use cone the email client ?
[06:46] <nefrin> Well, my helper seems to have left, can anyone else help? Getting a black screen after the ubuntu splash with a mouse pointer, no loading up of GNOME
[06:46] <smikec> kohlrak: no access from gui, partial access from gui terminal using sudo, full access using gui terminal using su root
[06:46] <kohlrak> nefrin: sounds like compiz =p Using an ATI? If so, probably compiz
[06:46] <fool_> nefrin: maybe drop to single user and see what's wrong
[06:46] <gRunt> dont have nautilus but it has popped up a lot in tutorials etc ive seen on the net so will get it now and check it out, thanks again sprinkmeier
[06:46] <fool_> does anyone in here use cone the email client ?
[06:47] <nefrin> kohlrak: I have NVIDIA, not using compiz
[06:47] <prince_jammys> smikec: you're unable to use sudo at all?
[06:47] <nefrin> fool_ - drop to single user?
[06:47] <gRunt> Bah still seems I dont have write permissions to the folder....
[06:47] <kohlrak> smikec: you just may be able to run the same manager that you messed with all the permissions after su root, since a GUI program run after that should have the same permissions as root
[06:48] <fool_> nefrin: right after reboot , when it says press escape to get to grub menu, press escape, choose recovery option
[06:48] <ravn1> hi guys, anyone could hint me with DRM stuff? I had OpenGL working fine under GNOME until I changed the screen settings so I could also use my VGA connector with a beamer. After this I can not use DRI any more. I have been looking around at the web and found that drm does not seem to load any more on my laptop (dmesg | grep drm gives nothing) where should I start?
[06:48] <kohlrak> smikec: what program exactly did you use anyway?
[06:48] <fool_> ravn1: drm is not dri
[06:48] <nefrin> fool_ : have done the recovery option, and tried all the options to fix xserver and packages, still getting the same result
[06:48] <smikec> kohlrak: I have tried, but can't seem to get it back, all privileges are check in users-admin
[06:49] <ravn1> fool_: ok, I was reading this page http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting where these things seem to go hand in hand
[06:49] <fool_> nefrin: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver ?
[06:49] <kohlrak> smikec: using the same program that you used to mess it up?
[06:49] <fool_> ravn1: try dmesg |grep dri
[06:49] <smikec> kohlrak: yes only have I used users-admin aka "users and groups" in the gui
[06:49] <nefrin> fool_ : have done that too, as well as copied over my xorg.cong_backup file to the orginal xorg.conf, again no soap
[06:49] <yanz> I need alot of help :(
[06:50] <yanz> Something went wrong ):
[06:50] <fool_> nefrin: paste the syslog somewhere please
[06:50] <gRunt> !permissions
[06:50] <nefrin> fool_ : wait one, gonna have to boot up that computer on live CD
[06:50] <fool_> would somebody using hardy please install cone with aptitude ?
[06:50] <smikec> kohlrak: could this be a problem (users-admin:14823): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '14823'
[06:51] <sophia> crdlb: I cannot open setting manager-> window Manger Tweaks.. It shows error message.
[06:51] <yanz> is anyone really exp with Ubuntu?
[06:51] <kohlrak> smikec: if you run the program as root and the options don't work, and if your sudoers file doesn't work (visudo), then you might have what i call a "permissions tree problem"
[06:51] <ravn1> fool_: this gives nothing
[06:51] <fool_> nefrin: uhm that's that gonna help you figure out whats wrong
[06:51] <prince_jammys> smikec: how are you running users-admin?
[06:51] <crdlb> sophia: that's simply because you're not using xfwm4 anymore
[06:51] <fool_> !ask | yanz
[06:52] <kohlrak> smikec: basically, it's like folder permissions. You have permissions to a folder, but not allthe sub folders, then you gotta go around and find out how the hell to give yourself permissions to all the sub folders...
[06:52] <magnetron> yanz→ there are 1300 persons here, don't expect anyone to answer to vague questions directed to no one in particular
[06:52] <fool_> ravn1: copy content of /var/log/syslog and paste somewhere
[06:52] <nefrin> fool_ : I know, but that computer was sitting at a black screen, I'm booting it up into live CD so I can paste the syslog, otherwise I won't be able to paste it anywhere
[06:52] <gRunt> Can anyone give me the console command for full read and write access to a folder. I remember its something like chmod -r 666 /folderpath isnt it?
[06:52] <yanz> Eh, Ok.. Well I updated my Ubuntu Last night with the update manager, now firefox won't work, mercury won't work, aMsn won't work, everything is laggy, theres alot of errors..
[06:52] <sophia> crdlb: now how can i resolve my problem? any idea?
[06:52] <crdlb> sophia: if you want to stop using compiz, install the fusion-icon package, then run it; you'll then have a menu in your tray to switch between them
[06:52] <kohlrak> smikec: you said it's a fresh install, so if not too much time went into getting it to this point, perhaps starting over again would be the easier solution..
[06:53] <smikec> prince_jammys: under the gui "users and group" permission denied", through terminal sudo users-admin, all possible changes are grayed out, su root users-admin full access
[06:53] <yanz> All the other browsers I download and msn clients also don't work
[06:53] <yanz> :S
[06:53] <fool_> nefrin: oh, well and where's the log ?
[06:53] <prince_jammys> smikec: gksudo users-admin
[06:53] <smikec> kohlrak: im about to give up for the night
[06:53] <fool_> does anyone in here run hardy ?
[06:53] <sophia> crdlb: from synaptic manager?
[06:53] <crdlb> sophia: sure, any package manager works
[06:54] <yanz> ...
[06:54] <smikec> prince_jammys: same result as using the terminal
[06:55] <gRunt> Can anyone give me the console command for full read and write access to a folder. I remember its something like chmod -r 666 /folderpath isnt it?
[06:55] <prince_jammys> smikec: this is the only app that gives you a problem with sudo? are you able to sudo normally otherwise?
[06:55] <kohlrak> smikec: it's as if all your users left their user groups...
[06:55] <yanz> Gess. Good help. I'm out
[06:56] <Kartagis> hellp
[06:56] <Kartagis> when I try playing a sound, all I hear is crackles from speakers. wanna help me fix it?
[06:56] <smikec> prince_jammys: havent tried, any suggestions
[06:56] <prince_jammys> smikec: sudo ls
[06:56] <prince_jammys> anything
[06:56] <fool_> well nvm
[06:56] <fool_> can anyone just please install cone and tell me whether libfam0 is installed with it ?
[06:57] <nefrin> fool_ : can't get my syslog up while I'm in LiveCD, and I can paste it when I bring it up on the command prompt
[06:57] <kohlrak> fool_  it should be if necessary.. if not, just install it XD
[06:57] <sophia> crdlb: still wont work
[06:57] <fool_> kohlrak: problem is, i get it installed on one machine and not on another
[06:57] <crdlb> sophia: what didn't? did you launch fusion-icon?
[06:57] <kohlrak> fool_ using the package system?
[06:58] <fool_> kohlrak: so if you have time please do aptitude install cone and tell me what happen
[06:58] <ravn1> fool_: http://pastebin.com/m48ed14d2
[06:58] <fool_> kohlrak: yes
[06:58] <chilli0> hello all how can i make avast do a virus scan over a network from ubuntu to windblows?
[06:58] <kohlrak> fool_: i'm actually on windows right now to type a report... Taking a brake from it in here. XD
[06:58] <smikec> prince_jammys: Desktop, Documents, Pictures...
[06:58] <andriijas> i cloned the hardrive on my laptop with dd and put the clone image on a external disk, and restored it on another laptop which ive now booted up, how do i refresh what modules and drivers ubuntu should load on boot because it doesnt find the network interface?
[06:59] <sophia> crdlb: i typed fusion-icon in terminal after installing.
[06:59] <fool_> kohlrak: libfam0 is installed in a hardy machine, which is what it should be, and not installed on a hardy and gutsy machine, and it's driving me nuts
[06:59] <smikec> kohlrak: is it normal for each user to have his/her own group
[06:59] <kohlrak> fool_ have you checked for any bug reports on the package? Very unusual for a package to not install necessary files.
[06:59] <crdlb> sophia: do you see the icon the tray? right click on it and select window manager > xfwm4
[06:59] <sophia> crdlb: i gives" KeyError: 'decoration'"
[07:00] <kohlrak> smikec: not sure... been a while since i checked, though it doesn't sound entirely right...
[07:00] <prince_jammys> smikec: the notable thing about the output of your `id' command is that there's no `user' group.
[07:00] <Kartagis> when I try playing a sound, all I hear is crackles from speakers. wanna help me fix it?
[07:00] <crdlb> sophia: argh, sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:00] <kohlrak> smikec: it wouldn't make sense to have user groups if every user was his own group, would it? XD
[07:00] <crdlb> sophia: when that's done, run fusion-icon again
[07:01] <smikec> kohlrak: exactly, but somehow they were generated
[07:01] <fool_> ravn1: damn that's a lot of io error
[07:01] <sophia> crdlb: ok
[07:02] <kohlrak> smikec: hm...... might've happened when you took away their root privileges...
[07:02] <kohlrak> smikec: i can't imagin it just making a "removed from root privileges" group XD
[07:02] <fool_> ravn1: is that the end of it ?
[07:02] <ravn1> fool_: yes
[07:03] <ravn1> I just tried to do modprobe drm wich loaded w.o. errors...
[07:03] <kohlrak> fool_ Either way though, install the libfam0 package and if it works file a bug report
[07:03] <prince_jammys> smikec: it's normal for all human users to have their own group
[07:03] <smikec> kohlrak: well im going to try and logout and login again
[07:03] <fool_> kohlrak: problem is i don't know whether i should installed it or not
[07:04] <kohlrak> smikec: go further and try rebooting
[07:04] <smikec> if that doesnt work then im calling it quits for the night
[07:04] <ravn1> fool_:  I will try to reboot the x-server now and see what happens
[07:04] <fool_> that's why i'm asking someone else to install it to see what happen
[07:04] <smikec> thanks for everyones help
[07:04] <prince_jammys> smikec: do you get output from this: getent group|grep user
[07:04] <kohlrak> fool_ install and if it works, keep it, if it doesn't, remove it again XD
[07:04] <Peddy> What package is the file /dev/dsp found in? I seem to be missing it.
[07:05] <Reidy> I need to upgrade my graphics driver, anyone know how I go about doing this?
[07:05] <fool_> kohlrak: that's the wrong way to go
[07:05] <fool_> :/
[07:05] <fool_> though it sounds very pratical
[07:05] <fool_> lol
[07:05] <kohlrak> fool_ probably lots more that you don't need if that's what you're worried about... that's why they gave us apt-get autoremove
[07:06] <fool_> kohlrak: well it does leave a daemon sitting in the box so that what's spook me to begin with
[07:07] <kohlrak> fool_ weird... The daemon might not be open to the public though, as in it might only be on a loopback connection...
[07:07] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, I just rebooted and all works fine for mounting, though I don't seem to have write permissions is there a quick and easy fix for that?
[07:07] <kohlrak> fool_ though if you're on a private network, just don't open the port on your firewall and it shouldn't cause any problems. Since it's a daemon it shouldn't take any cycles until something connects to it
[07:09] <kohlrak> fool_ there's also the possibility that the computers are using differerent update servers, which can happen and that'll cause different versions with different requirements
[07:09] <gRunt> Can anyone help me with making a mounted ntfs folder have write access please?
[07:09] <kohlrak> fool_: however, to have a daemon library is a really unusual difference in requirements o.O
[07:09] <fool_> kohlrak: checked that, all same
[07:10] <kohlrak> well, i'm not surprised with the gutsy
[07:10] <kohlrak> but both hardies are the same version of hardy?
[07:10] <sophia> crdlb: Thanks a lot ..it worked as expected... Thank you...
[07:11] <fool_> kohlrak: yes
[07:11] <gRunt> Can anyone help me with making a mounted ntfs folder have write access please?
[07:11] <kohlrak> fool_ well does the program work without the creepy daemon lib?
[07:12] <fool_> kohlrak: i went ahead and try insatll libfam0, and guess what, there was a conflict with gamin
[07:12] <fool_>  Gamin has been designed as a drop-in replacement for FAM with security and
[07:12] <fool_>  maintainability in mind and can use Linux's advanced inotify service when available.
[07:12] <Kartagis> !ntfs | grub_booter
[07:12] <ekimus_> ls
[07:12] <ekimus_> whoops
[07:12] <Kartagis> !ntfs | gRunt
[07:12] <Kartagis> !ntfs-3g | gRunt
[07:13] <gRunt> !NTFS-3g
[07:13] <kohlrak> fool_ then i suggest gamin instead if it is more secure and maintainable and the program works XD
[07:13] <kohlrak> fool_ i would also suggest switching the other computer to use gamin as well if it works XD
[07:14] <smikec> kohlrak: I su into users-admin started adding my username under anything "admin" looking and vice versa with my personal group, rebooted
[07:14] <fool_> kohlrak: shoot but the required package is libfam0 in the description
[07:14] <kohlrak> smikec: improvement?
[07:14] <smikec>  kohlrak: improvement = yes
[07:14] <smikec> now my username can change root permissions once I unlock
[07:15] <smikec> so its just tinkering from here on out
[07:15] <kohlrak> fool_ well, if gamin's a dropin that works then it shouldn't matter. What matters is that it works. If both work, worry about security... if this thing makes a daemon, it's not number1 on my list of secure programs.
[07:15] <fool_> kohlrak: i'm gonna file a bug report
[07:15] <kohlrak> smikec: awesome... not sure what worked, but the "unlock" button is a requirement for all as far as i know =p
[07:15] <smikec> thanks for everyones help, goodnight
[07:15] <kohlrak> smikec: night
[07:16] <smikec> at least everyting in the gui works now
[07:16] <kohlrak> fool_ good idea...
[07:16] <sprinkmeier> gRunt, mount options ro, read-only. I usually do that 'cos it's safer that way
[07:16] <fool_> kohlrak: haha well it works as far as i can see, but that's still unsure, but they should have drop the requirement for libfam
[07:16] <dsdeiz> hi, inorder to get the text based ubuntu do i download the alternate cd?
[07:17] <dsdeiz> the one with no gui
[07:17] <kohlrak> fool_ well, they have to use either libfam or the more secure one, and if they don't get rid of libfam, they really can't make the dropin the primary requirement..
[07:18] <kohlrak> fool_ some kind of weird programmer ethics thing or something. The least they could do, though, is mention the dropin replacement
[07:18] <vcvg> join #irssi
[07:18] <fool_> kohlrak: no kidding, or do libfam | gamin  in the requirements spec
[07:18] <gRunt> sprinkmeier, occassionaly im on linux though and have dled a file that I want to be able to open in my windows machine and its easier to just copy it there than stuff around with an external, thats all
[07:19] <kohlrak> fool_ you can do that? Though, they probably did, otherwise purging libfam for gamin would have thrown an error. Naturally the one will install before the other on most machines
[07:19] <crdlb> fool_: what package is this?
[07:19] <kohlrak> fool_ that means there's likely another program that uses libfam that doesn't have the option set right forthe dropin replacement...
[07:20] <fool_> kohlrak: yes you can do that, and no they didn't
[07:20] <fool_> crdlb: cone
[07:20] <fool_> kohlrak: yes i tried to purge gamin and lighttpd cry out in horror
[07:21] <kohlrak> fool_ well, if gamin is the more secure package then you don't want to purge that one XD
[07:22] <kohlrak> fool_: i gotta get going. Chances are some one will answer that bug report before i have a viable solution other than already suggested.
[07:22] <fool_> kohlrak: the lighttpd does show a gamin | libfam dependencies
[07:22] <fool_> kohlrak: problem is, i will use it and it might crash one day
[07:22] <fool_> or it might live one happily ever after
[07:22] <fool_> lol
[07:22] <fool_> kohlrak: yes, thanks, have fun getting back to work
[07:22] <kohlrak> fool_ well, if it's "more maintainable" then it'll probably end up becomming the primary requirement as libfam becomes outdated and not maintained
[07:22] <ravn1> fool_: hi again, it's not working =( On http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting they say I should have a "Modules" section in my xorg.conf, but if I add that the xserver says there is no known section named that ...
[07:23] <kohlrak> fool_: see ya
[07:23] <digger3> Hi, how do I encrypt my full harddrive (instead of seperate volumes) I want the tool to autoselect an environment based on the password that I enter so that it is undetectable that I have another environment installed (accessible with the other password). Does this exist?
[07:23] <doleyb> digger3: sounds cool though
[07:24] <suigeneris> hello
[07:24] <fool_> ravn1: xorg 7.3 did away with many parts of the config, gotta check which video card ou got and override in the config right for it to work
[07:25] <suigeneris> my sound is gone and all I hear is crackles from speakers. anybody wanna help me fix it?
[07:26] <fool_> suigeneris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting is good start
[07:26] <sanku> hi am trying to connect to my desktop from my laptop.. i can ssh from the desktop to laptop, but when i try to do the reverse i.e (laptop->desktop) i get "port22:connection refused" how can i solve the problem?
[07:27] <sanku> mine is a home router, i don't think there is firewall in it..
[07:27] <fool_> sanku: check ufw firewall
[07:27] <fool_> of desktop
[07:28] <suigeneris> fool_: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd gives me a list, aplay -l gives me my sound card, lspci -v gives me my sound card
[07:28] <suigeneris> fool_: it used to work before
[07:28] <sanku> fool_: its some problem with laptop, i had problem from colege too.. both having gnewsense(ubuntu 8.04)..
[07:29] <sanku> btw whats the recommended way to get connected and share files in lan connected ubuntu systems?
[07:29] <fool_> sanku: what does ssh username@desktopIP show you ?
[07:30] <sanku> fool_: ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.3 port 22: Connection refused
[07:30] <fool_> suigeneris: alsamixer, check the volumes
[07:30] <nate[oz]> how can I completely remove mysql-server-5.0 and start again? I believe it's a broken install, and the service won't start... every time I remove it and reinstall it does the exact same thing
[07:30] <suigeneris> fool_: they are up
[07:30] <nate[oz]> I've removed every single package that has anything to do with mysql and it still does i
[07:30] <fool_> sanku: you absolutely sure it's 1.3 ?
[07:30] <nate[oz]> it*
[07:31] <suigeneris> nate[oz]: sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-server-5.0
[07:31] <sanku> fool_: yeah saw ifconfig at desktop, and sure that there is something wrong with the laptop ssh network, i had the same problem with well setup college sytems..
[07:31] <fool_> suigeneris: well sometimes one of the tabs has to be down, like on my laptop, otherwise there are a lot of sizzling noise
[07:31] <sanku> s/ssh network/ssh setup/
[07:32] <fool_> sanku: on desktop, do nestat -ntl
[07:32] <Reidy> I need to upgrade my graphics driver, anyone know how I go about doing this?
[07:32] <suigeneris> fool_: like i said, it used to work with this setup
[07:33] <kandinski> hey, how to create a virtual serial port for bluetooth under 8.10?
[07:33] <zeltak> hi guys..i know its a bit off topic but does anyone have any experience using 1.5TB on ubuntu?
[07:33] <fool_> suigeneris: something must have happen, can't help you out here
[07:34] <sanku_desktop> Active Internet connections (only servers)
[07:34] <sanku_desktop> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[07:34] <sanku_desktop> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[07:34] <nate[oz]> suigeneris, http://paste.ubuntu.com/132881/
[07:34] <sanku> fool_: ^^
[07:34] <nate[oz]> still no luck I'm afraid
[07:34] <kandinski> apparently the only way to sync palm devices with ubuntu over bluetooth is with a virtual serial port, bu I don't know how to do that with Gnome GUI (it's for my dad, so it has to be GUI)
[07:34] <kandinski> thanks in advance
[07:34] <fool_> sanku: ssh is not running
[07:35] <fool_> sanku: ps faux |grep ssh
[07:35] <digger3> doleyb: this seems to do the trick: http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=plausible-deniability
[07:35] <suigeneris> nate[oz]: no idea on that, sorry
[07:36] <nate[oz]> nps, thanks mate
[07:36] <nate[oz]> I'm thinking about reinstalling :( can't figure this out
[07:37] <Reidy> I need to upgrade my graphics driver, anyone know how I go about doing this?
[07:38] <agnes> hi
[07:39] <sanku_desktop> fool_: uh! terribly sorry openssh-server and ssh isn't installed! and now synaptic shows some error "Depends: openssh-client (=1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1) but 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2 is to be installed"
[07:40] <zeltak> sorry to bother but i cant get an aswer anywhere else..for some reason ubuntu only see 500GB out of 1.5TB in all a.5TB drives..anyone else knwo something abou tit?
[07:40] <digger3> Reidy: try waiting for the next ubuntu release. Updated and tested graphics drivers will be included
[07:40] <Reidy> how long for the next release? LOL.
[07:41] <digger3> Reidy: manually updating your drivers is of course possible, but you really need to know what you're doing. I'd suggest that you wait for the 9.04 release
[07:41] <fool_> nate[oz]: sudo aptitude purge ~c
[07:41] <fool_> then try reinstall it
[07:41] <digger3> Reidy: ;D
[07:41] <fool_> sanku_desktop: sudo aptitude insatll ssh on desktop
[07:43] <unko> can someone help me i can't format my disk to ext3....take a look if this helps http://pastie.org/419516
[07:44] <fool_> unko: Mikes Media ?
[07:45] <unko> fool_, i got it
[07:45] <nmlinuz> hello! ubuntu 32 bit   ||  64 bit??
[07:46] <Reidy> Digger3: How long do you expect it to be? I don't wanna keep paying the monthly bill if I'm gonna have to wait a long time.
[07:46] <doleyb> Reidy: the release is about 30 day
[07:47] <sanku_desktop> fool_: yeah but some version clash on desktop, it asks for a higher version of openssh-client " Depends: openssh-client (=1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1) but 1:4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2 is to be installed" this is what i get..
[07:47] <nmlinuz> which ubuntu has better performance? 32bit or 64bit?
[07:47] <Reidy> 30 days until 9.0.4?
[07:48] <digger3> Reidy: well it's scheduled for April 2009, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule  for additional information. If you're really anxious you could install the Release Candidate when it is out
[07:48] <doleyb> nmlinuz: well 64 bit does, if you have a lot of ram (and you should buy ram!)
[07:48] <fool_> sanku_desktop: go through the options, it will give you option to install lower version of ssh, are you using -proposed and such other repos ?
[07:48] <nmlinuz> at 64bit is an os capable to run 32bit apps?
[07:48] <nmlinuz> or not?
[07:49] <fool_> yes nmlinuz
[07:49] <sanku_desktop> fool_: yeah now trying to install older version of openssh-server.. my laptop is having the older version...
[07:49] <nmlinuz> thnx fool_ and doleyb
[07:49] <fool_> nmlinuz: flash has been known to be buggy on 64 bit
[07:49] <fool_> beware
[07:50] <fool_> it all depends on your needs
[07:50] <cafuego> fool_: Are you implying it's not buggy on 32bit? :-)
[07:51] <fool_> haha cafuego well it's not AS buggy on 32bit
[07:51] <nmlinuz> fool_: ok! so i want now to buy a new graphic card. which you suggest? ati or nvidia? i have heard that ati has problems with linux. is that true?
[07:51] <cafuego> if you needs are: youtube; then the 64bit flash plugin is just fine.
[07:52] <o0Chris0o> how do I change back to the default color of ubuntu? I was messing with gnome color chooser and now I can't change it back to the default :(
[07:52] <fool_> nmlinuz: i've had problems and smooth rides with both, get an intel card
[07:52] <fool_> lol
[07:52] <o0Chris0o> !ot
[07:53] <doleyb> nmlinuz: i'm on nvidia, chosen to be OK with linux.  but by knowledge on that is obsolete.
[07:53] <Kartagis> fool_, I got it, PCM was down
[07:53] <cafuego> nmlinuz: The absolutely latest hardware is unlikely to work great; ATI used to be crap, but they're open sourcing the driver, so it should improve. nvidia is completely closed, but tends to work fine.
[07:54] <cafuego> nmlinuz: I have an nvidia on my desktop box, intel on my laptop. The nvidia card is a few years old tho.
[07:54] <fool_> Kartagis: hehe them bars are cranky and needy ;)
[07:54] <neosisani> Atheros wifi on laptop used to work, then i disabeled it somehow and now it won't reenable. modproble ath_pci works but neither ath0 nor wlan0 appear. modproble ath5k doesn't work (no module found). Bluetooth is working (which means that device is physically powered) and lspci shows everything as ok. Any idea what to try now?
[07:54] <WebDawg> dam #gentoo
[07:55] <digger3> nmlinuz: I'd suggest an nvidia card, they have less issues (still issues though) go and see if multi-monitor setups are important to you. I think there are some differences there, not sure
[07:55] <boraklavun> hello everyone
[07:55] <feng> hi
[07:55] <revilodraw> i know this  sounds  ridiculous,but when not in the presence of my home wireless network my ubuntu runs terribly, and when in the presence of my home wireless network it runs perfectly... any ideas?
[07:55] <boraklavun> have a nice day
[07:55] <nacho_> hola
[07:55] <nacho_> algun español
[07:55] <feng> como astas
[07:55] <cafuego> !se
[07:55] <feng> como estas
[07:55] <doleyb> neosisani: make sure you have wlan_scan_sta loaded with ath_pci
[07:55] <cafuego> heh
[07:56] <cafuego> !es
[07:56] <nacho_> bien
[07:56] <quibbler> !es | nacho_
[07:56] <feng> lol
[07:56] <sanku_desktop> is it possible to "rescue" a system having programs installed from different distros?:)
[07:56] <nacho_> ok
[07:56] <moogly> hey there
[07:56] <sanku_desktop> i mean just to know, i'll require that soon:)
[07:56] <ReX__> .
[07:56] <christoz> good morning, when i have updates available, and click on the try icon to see the list with the updates and their description of what changes will be done, there is no response. In order to install the updates i have to right-click the icon, and then install updates, is there anyone with the same problem?
[07:56] <cafuego> sanku_desktop: Depends on how badly you broke it.
[07:56] <neosisani> doleyb, one moment to try
[07:56] <cafuego> sanku_desktop: and how far you're prepared to strip it back.
[07:56] <boraklavun> ı am a new ubuntu users ,I would like to work on linux system,ı took mcse  alos sametimes ı am working  client support  personal.
[07:57] <moogly> i successfully configured the vlc source code, but now the make process is taking minutes whereas i expected it to take seconds
[07:57] <Cappientes> revilodraw, Are you using a static IP addres?
[07:57] <feng> what are some of the best programs for ubuntu?
[07:57] <boraklavun> I would like to learn  linux server how can I do that ı live in Turkey in İstanbul
[07:57] <feng> not constantinople?
[07:58] <doleyb> feng: Lol, I enjoy gcc, that's the best prog
[07:58] <boraklavun> if  anyone can help m about that I am very pleased
[07:58] <feng> gcc?
[07:58] <sanku_desktop> cafuego: hmm i just upgraded libc6 from intrepid on a hardy based system!:) and have another debian installed, so if it went wrong, ill just copy the home folder and have another installation.. but only if its that hard to make it all back with some apt magic..
[07:58] <neosisani> doleyb, you enjoy compiling stuff?
[07:58] <xavierg2003> Does anyone know how too upgrade windows when it wont read the wireless internet.
[07:58] <fool_> feng: that's a very general openended question. what do you need to do ?
[07:59] <doleyb> boraklavun: We can try to help, if you have questions to ask.
[07:59] <doleyb> !tu
[07:59] <sanku_desktop> fool_: thanks a lott.. /me going for a restart..
[07:59] <sanku_desktop> bye
[08:00] <nst> I just want to say hello to everyone
[08:00] <xavierg2003> nevermind
[08:00] <sanku> nst: hello
[08:00] <nst> Have a class.
[08:00] <nst> Bye
[08:02] <revilodraw> Cappientes: no, im not....should i?
[08:02] <zeltak> can anyone recommend a irc channel for hardware issues?
[08:02] <root> hello
[08:02] <neosisani> zeltak, #hardware
[08:02] <Driller> hei, does anyone knows anyone knows any application for electronic simulation?
[08:02] <papa_> bonjour, 'est-il possible de mettre a jour mon tom tom sur ubuntu? merci
[08:02] <neosisani> Driller, like pspice?
[08:02] <Cappientes> revilodraw, No, I was just trying to think of a reason why you'd be getting such poor performance afh
[08:02] <Driller> va a fan culo Frenchy
[08:03] <Driller> yes
[08:03] <Driller> like Pspice
[08:03] <Cappientes> revilodraw, Have you ever ran top from a terminal when you get this poor performance?
[08:03] <Driller> I am trying oregano right now, but I don't know if I can trust the performance of it
[08:04] <revilodraw> yes, and it looks like everything should be running fine - nothing is hogging resources
[08:04] <neosisani> Driller, never used any but look at ngspice or geda
[08:05] <Driller> I have tryed also that, but the graphs that I get, I don't know if I ca really tryst it, cose on PSpice, I get different results
[08:07] <neosisani> doleyb, wlan_scan_sta is loaded, any idea on what to try now
[08:07] <quibbler> !fr | papa
[08:07] <neosisani> how come there are so many non-english speaking people here?
[08:07] <doleyb> neosisani: have you read this bug page? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/182489
[08:07] <revilodraw> Cappientes: yes, and it looks like everything should be running fine - nothing is hogging resources
[08:08] <doleyb> neosisani: (the non-english here because it's sunny in asia)
[08:08] <sanku> fool_: woohoo ssh successfull!! the problem was that the openssh-client installed was 1.2 when the repo still is having openss-server of 1 (may be sometime i took it from some other repo!) now that i have both openssh client and server of 1.5 from intrepid! hope system won't break soon:) thanks a lottt!
[08:09] <Cappientes> revilodraw, Have you tried disabling your wireless(?) when you're @ home or when your afh?
[08:11] <revilodraw> yes, and it worked fine with / without wireless at home, but poorly without wireless afh...   im editing etc/network/interfaces as we speak and changing it to 'auto wlan 0' is this a good idea?
[08:13] <Cappientes> revilodraw, that will bring the interface up automatically at boot - whats the line after that say? make sure there's not a space between the wlan and the 0
[08:13] <sanku> whats the recommended way of sharing files between ubuntus in a lan?
[08:14] <revilodraw> Cappientes: before i edited it it details my home wireless network settings...
[08:14] <feng> fool_: how do I get an application thats supposed to run on WINE into my applications bar?
[08:15] <Cappientes> revilodraw, ahh okay, Do you use networkManager to manage your wireless?
[08:15] <Adman65> Hey, I'm trying to setup a cups-pdf to use in xp, cept xp asks me for connection details for the printer.  My login details don't work.  Anyone got any ideas ?
[08:16] <revilodraw> Cappientes: yes
[08:17] <fliegenderfrosch> sanku: you can use samba, giver or sftp
[08:17] <Reidy> Anyone know how to install the Intel Drivers from http://intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html ?
[08:17] <fool_> sanku: np
[08:18] <arunreddy> How to get Bluetooth headset working in ubuntu 8.10
[08:18] <sanku> like which way would work great by default? there is a link for network on the gnome-panel, its for samba?
[08:18] <Cappientes> revilodraw, When you start to get bad performance is this in applications that are net dependant? And is the other networks you access afh the same ones or do you have trouble with all wireless networks?
[08:18] <fool_> feng: there's the menu editor, i'm not too familiar, dig around
[08:18] <sanku> i mean to recommend to non-techie users..
[08:18] <arunreddy> How to get Bluetooth headset working in ubuntu 8.10
[08:18] <pyrohotdog> I have a syntax error in my kboot.conf, and I've been dropped into busybox. I know what I need to fix, but nano says command not found!
[08:19] <pyrohotdog> How do I invoke and editor in busybox to fix the file?
[08:19] <Reidy> Anyone know how to install the Intel Drivers from http://intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html ?
[08:19] <revilodraw> Cappientes: when programs/folders/files finally open they run really well.... glxgears for example reports 2600  fps... but takes ages to open
[08:19] <massiveoni> heya, who is the best to ask about using ubuntu on a c2d laptop?
[08:19] <JuzProdtionz> dds
[08:20] <arunreddy> massiveoni: c2d laptop.?
[08:20] <massiveoni> core 2 duo
[08:20] <fliegenderfrosch> sanku: samba is well integrated. for passing single files you could giver, which works like IM file sharing. Sftp allows for accessing files on another computer if you have the username/pw of the user.
[08:20] <Reidy> arunreddy: What do you want to know?
[08:20] <dixon2081> i have a question... would you be able to dual boot ubuntu 8.10 desktop with ubuntu server?
[08:20] <arunreddy> massiveoni : i use a c2d laptop.Its works fine for me.. it ricks
[08:21] <sanku> fliegenderfrosch: ic.. thanks buddy..
[08:21] <massiveoni> arunreddy : can i pm you?
[08:21] <fliegenderfrosch> sanku: np
[08:21] <arunreddy> Reidy : I have a dell bh200 bluetooth headset. It doesnt pair with my lappy.. and gives some weird errors
[08:21] <Reidy> Ubuntu runs perfect on my C2D laptop
[08:21] <arunreddy> massiveoni : yep
[08:21] <pyrohotdog> Anyone? How can I edit files in busybox?
[08:22] <massiveoni> what i would like to know should i use 8.10 or wait for 9
[08:22] <doleyb> pyrohotdog: Oh, busybox... i sorta remember that.  Try vi
[08:22] <LogicFan> massiveoni, what do you currently have?
[08:22] <massiveoni> windows vista ultimate msdn, lol
[08:23] <Reidy> arunreddy: When you try to Setup a New Device through the menu, does it show up?
[08:23] <fool_> massiveoni: depends on your hardware (video card / wifi / ... )
[08:23] <arunreddy> yeah device shows up
[08:23] <LogicFan> massiveoni, no need to wait for jaunty
[08:23] <Reidy> Ok, and connecting to it doesn't work?
[08:23] <Cappientes> revilodraw, I can't think of what would be causing that, especially if you've top'ed it during it running slowly unless there was something continually trying to access something that only exists on your home network
[08:23] <massiveoni> yeh wifi n, gf 8400m gs
[08:23] <LogicFan> i bet 8.10 will work, just double-check your hardware
[08:24] <letter_z> whenever I try to open Software Sources or Synaptic package manager, nothing happens. I'm admin on this account. Whats wrong with it?
[08:24] <Cappientes> revilodraw, You haven't got a system proxy set have you?
[08:24] <dixon2081> would you be able to dual boot ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server?
[08:25] <Reidy> !tab
[08:25] <funkyHat> dixon2081: yes, but why?
[08:26] <dixon2081> funkyhat i have just been wondering, because you can dual boot windows and ubuntu, was just wondering if you would be able to dual boot desktop and server
[08:26] <tc111> dixon2081: wouldn't it be better to run one of them in a VM (QEMU, Virtualbox, etc...)?
[08:26] <dixon2081> dont have a VM
[08:26] <funkyHat> dixon2081: Ubuntu server is much the same as Ubuntu desktop, you could just install the server components on your Ubuntu desktop system, and not need to reboot, or use a VM if you really need to have separate machines
[08:26] <arunreddy> Reidy: it connects.. able to detect it ..it doesnt pair..
[08:27] <tc111> dixon2081: which are you running now?
[08:27] <dixon2081> ubuntu 8.10 with kubuntu and xubuntu desktops
[08:27] <letter_z> whenever I try to open Software Sources or Synaptic package manager, nothing happens(This applies to everything but Authorization). I'm admin on this account. Whats wrong with it?
[08:27] <Adman65> Hey, I'm trying to setup a cups-pdf to use in xp, cept xp asks me for connection details for the printer.  My login details don't work.  Anyone got any ideas ?
[08:27] <Puppet_Master> Hello
[08:28] <Puppet_Master> I have some troubles to read CDROM with my xUbuntu 8.10
[08:28] <tc111> dixon2081: what is the configuration of the machine (RAM, CPU, 32 or 64-bit)?
[08:28] <Puppet_Master> I can read DVDs but not CDROMs
[08:28] <dixon2081> 512MB RAM, 1.86GHZ intel celeron M 32 bit
[08:29] <Puppet_Master> Under Windows I can read all medias
[08:29] <dixon2081> 80GB HDD
[08:29] <Puppet_Master> somebody have an idea
[08:29] <Puppet_Master> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132849/
[08:29] <tc111> dixon2081: ok, not a great machine for VMs... what were you trying to accomplish by installing both?
[08:29] <dixon2081> i havent installed both
[08:30] <funkyHat> Puppet_Master: the error message is telling you that your CD ROM drive is broken
[08:30] <tc111> dixon2081: are you looking for the security of the server with the convenience of the desktop?
[08:30] <dixon2081> i was wondering if it would be possable to dual boot the two, just for future reference
[08:30] <funkyHat> Puppet_Master: do you have another drive you could plug in to try?
[08:30] <Puppet_Master> funkyHat, but it works under windows
[08:30] <Puppet_Master> funkyHat, no
[08:31] <Puppet_Master> it's a laptop
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[08:31] <arunreddy> dixon2081 : i have a dual boot system
[08:31] <Boohbah> !hi | ActionParsnip1
[08:31] <Puppet_Master> funkyHat, and it reads DVD's without any problem
[08:32] <Segaja> what is the command to start the gnome "Disk Usage Analyzer" from the command line?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: video DVDs?
[08:32] <Boohbah> dixon2081: i am failing to see the point of two separate partitions for ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server. why not install server applications on the desktop or vice versa?
[08:33] <tc111> dixon2081: it is possible... you need to create 2 /boot partitions (100-200MB) and 2 / partitions (20-40GB), you can share both the swap (RAM * 1.5) and /home partitions
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> Segaja: edit your menu to see what command it runs
[08:34] <Segaja> ActionParsnip1: i don't have gnome running, but it is installed. i just want the command :)
[08:34] <s7itch3s> hi everyone. i'm having an issue with my cd rom. this is a laptop and i use the Gunjin boot loader to get the disk to boot. i can begin the install, ie: select language. it loads the kernel and starts the process but gets hung up on detection the cdrom??? it asks for drivers... (even tho it just loaded it)    any ideas?
[08:34] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, an Linux ISO DVD
[08:34] <funkyHat> tc111: 20GB is large for a / partition imo... also separate /boot partitions are not really necessary
[08:34] <tc111> Segaja: baobab
[08:34] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, I don't have any Video DVD at work
[08:34] <Segaja> tc111: thanks
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded?
[08:35] <Adman65> Hey, I'm trying to setup a cups-pdf to use in xp, cept xp asks me for connection details for the printer.  My login details don't work.  Anyone got any ideas ?
[08:35] <tc111> funkyHat: doesn't the installer want to format the /boot partition (even in manual)?
[08:35] <Segaja> couldn't they use a better name for that...
[08:35] <funkyHat> tc111: in manual it will do just what you tell it to, but my point is you don't need to have a /boot partition at all
[08:35] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, I don't have problems with DVDs, I have troubles with CDROM
[08:36] <Puppet_Master> my media don't read any CDROM
[08:36] <Puppet_Master> original or burned
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> Adman65: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[08:36] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, it just read DVDs
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: insert a cd media with data on it, wait 20 seconds or so then read   dmesg | tail
[08:38] <tc111> Segaja: ok, just the way i setup my machines, but haven't ever installed two separate on the same machine (except in VMs as all my machines are more than adequate for such). I've installed server and then added a lightweight desktop for convenience.
[08:39] <Frogzoo> Aminzai: I think you want to configure cups as an ipp printer
[08:39] <cTn> hi guys, is there anyone running ubuntu on amilo pi 3540 laptop ?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> tc111: then you may as well have installed the desktop OS
[08:39] <tc111> funkyHat: ok, just the way i setup my machines, but haven't ever installed two separate on the same machine (except in VMs as all my machines are more than adequate for such). I've installed server and then added a lightweight desktop for convenience.
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> cTn: what is printed on the case means very little, what is your issue?
[08:39] <gldtn> !broadcom
[08:40] <pro> hi all, and one know where i can find a net install (mini iso) for 8.10 ?
[08:40] <Frogzoo> Aminzai: this sounds right for you: http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html
[08:40] <tc111> ActionParsnip1: its a headless machine. i ssh and tunnel X so that i can run some gui apps, but i wouldn't do it again as i love the cli.
[08:40] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, ok I try
[08:40] <Boohbah> s7itch3s: forgive my ignorance, what is a gunjin bootloader and does grub not work for you?
[08:40] <cTn> ActionParsnip1: hi, so my laptop has 4gb of ram so i wanted to install x64 version of ubuntu, but when i insert latest live cd (8.10 x64) and select for example 1st option, to try ubuntu without any changes, notebook reboots
[08:40] <funkyHat> tc111: fair enough :) there are some advantages to having a separate /boot, I just think it's not necessary for most people's needs :)
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> tc111: cli is sweet
[08:41] <pro> i'll that that as a no....
[08:42] <cTn> ActionParsnip1: same thing happens when i press the install option
[08:42] <Boohbah> tc111: FreeNX is also sweet, instead of X over ssh
[08:42] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, no new line on dmesg
[08:42] <s7itch3s> Boohbah: sorry, "http://gujin.sourceforge.net/" gujin. i've had grub on this machine work before(installed with debian) but not from floppy. is it just like a floppy that looks at available drives?
[08:43] <tc111> funkyHat: i have some fairly complex drive setups, so i use a separate /boot partition formatted ext3. most all of my machine, >12, use LVM or RAID and LVM, so need a separate /boot, but you're right, the standard basic user doesn't need that feature.
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: you wont see a 'new line' you will see the kernels reaction to the cd being inserted
[08:43] <gldtn> heelo guys.. where can I find bcm43xx-fwcutter or b43-legacy for download? I needed for my other laptop that can't connect to the net.. so Iḿ trying to download it and put it on there
[08:44] <tc111> Boohbah: never used freenx, i'll check the repo's and see what it offers... thx
[08:44] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, the kernel don't output anything when I inser a CDROM
[08:44] <Boohbah> s7itch3s: uhh floppy? is your machine from the 20th century?
[08:44] <s7itch3s> Boohbah: no, win95
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: run the dmesg | tail command again
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: or try a manual mount
[08:45] <JuzProdtionz> How do you add someone to you buddy list
[08:45] <JuzProdtionz> how do you bring up a buddy list
[08:45] <Boohbah> tc111: it's quite a bit faster than X over SSH as they've optimized the protocol and such
[08:46] <Slart> JuzProdtionz: in what software?
[08:46] <JuzProdtionz> im using Mirc
[08:46] <s7itch3s> Boohbah: i have two of them. this one bios doesn't allow boot from cdrom. so i circumvent that with that gujin boot loader.
[08:46] <tc111> gldtn: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[08:46] <Puppet_Master> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132915/
[08:46] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/132915/
[08:46] <Slart> JuzProdtionz: hmm... you might be better off looking at documentation for mIRC then.. I doubt very many here use mIRC
[08:47] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: are you logged in as root?
[08:47] <JuzProdtionz> I just tried to istall ubutu again- this time I had help
[08:47] <Puppet_Master> yes
[08:47] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: why?
[08:48] <JuzProdtionz> Did not get past the first screen after it ask for langauge
[08:48] <JuzProdtionz> ubuntu hates me badley
[08:48] <s7itch3s> Boohbah: basically, i did boot the cdrom but now it cannot find it when "detecting hardware" runs. it's asking for a driver
[08:48] <JuzProdtionz> could it be because i burned the cd too fast tat it did not work
[08:49] <Slart> JuzProdtionz: that's possible.. there is a "check cd" option in the first menu you see
[08:49] <raevol1> guys i've got a really unique situation: i need to install from the alternate cd for ubuntu (to get a full CLI system), but from a usb drive (eeepc), but with an image that will fit on a 512 meg usb drive, is this possible? is there a custom image out there that's just a bit smaller?
[08:49] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, routine(i don't know if the word is correct in english)
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: you do realised you have just damaged your security quite heavily?
[08:49] <JuzProdtionz> im going to reburn it what do speed do you recommend
[08:49] <Slart> !minimal | raevol1
[08:49] <DJones> !minimal | raevol1 This might help
[08:49] <DJones> to slow
[08:49] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, yes I know
[08:50] <raevol1> i can't use the minimal cd because i can't get network during the install
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: theres nothing your user cant do that root cannot do, plus running web apps (like irc clients) is the stupidest and least secure thing a user can do
[08:50] <JuzProdtionz> I have the most horrif wireless keyboard does not matter where i am the signal is crap and when type it leves out key.
[08:50] <Slart> DJones: just got my morning coffee.. you'll beat me again in an hour or so =)
[08:50] <JuzProdtionz> microsoft sucks
[08:50] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, I just made an 'sudo su -'
[08:50] <Puppet_Master> I'm not running xchat or my windown manager with root user
[08:51] <JuzProdtionz> I wonderif i can make the signal stronge so atleast i can type normal
[08:51] <Slart> JuzProdtionz: not really.. but that's not something to discuss here.. try #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[08:51] <Puppet_Master> I'm not so stupid
[08:51] <raevol> Slart DJones i can't use the minimal cd because i can't get netowrk during the install, i need to be able to dpkg-i the array.org kernal after installing
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: 1. you just said you were logged in as root  2. sudo su doesn't configure the environment correctly
[08:51] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: sudo -i   is advised
[08:51] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, my terminal session is logged as root
[08:51] <JuzProdtionz> im sorry just bought a ms wireless keyboard and it the worst ever don't matter how i positon it it cuts key out
[08:51] <DJones> raevol: I'm not sure how to help, I've not got any experience with the eeepc's
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[08:52] <Boohbah> s7itch3s: hmm, i guess if you can't boot some linux and run lspci then you will have to google for your cd-rom model and figure out what driver it uses. have you tried knoppix?
[08:52] <Slart> raevol: oh.. hmm.. then I don't really know.. If I were in your position I would look into some tools to edit disk images and try removing some packages you don't want to use.. something big.. openoffice perhaps
[08:52] <JuzProdtionz> what speed should i run it at now
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: as long as you havent enabled the root account
[08:53] <JuzProdtionz> I am going to reburn it to try a lower speed to see if that work, but how fast?
[08:53] <raevol> slart, any ideas what those tools would be called?
[08:53] <Slart> JuzProdtionz: 4x or something
[08:53] <poet> I've had my broadcom wireless work just fine with the restricted drivers, but after updating a few packages it no longer appears in lspci.  any ideas?
[08:53] <Puppet_Master> |~| % sudo mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
[08:53] <Puppet_Master> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:53] <Vonor> o/
[08:53] <funkyHat> s7itch3s: if you have a spare machine you could try installing Ubuntu using a network install, although that might not be the most straightforward solution
[08:53] <Slart> raevol: not really.. try searching in synaptic for.. well... "iso editor" or something
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: weird
[08:53] <raevol> slart thanks
[08:54] <Slart> raevol: you're welcome
[08:54] <poet> is there anyway to force ubuntu to probe for hardware?
[08:54] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/132919/
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: is the cd burned as an iso9660?
[08:55] <s7itch3s> Boohbah: knoppix when even load on this machine. to slow. ive got debian, dsl, slackware and some other distros to work, all without sound. i was hoping ubuntu would help with that because it seems to be the best recognizable disto ive ever used... then again, i have this issue...  so who knows.  i'll try looking for some linux drivers maybe in the knoppix distro
[08:55] <Vonor> I just tried creating a custom ubuntu cd with a custom branding and custom desktop meta package. created the iso image and tried installing it in a vbox, the result was 1) it tried to setup a pppoe connection at network conf 2) couldn't find a kernel image suitable for installing 3) some message about glibc
[08:55] <Slart> poet: a reboot?
[08:55] <s7itch3s> Boohbah: *won't even load
[08:55] <Vonor> anyone experiences with customizating the ubuntu install cd?
[08:55] <JuzProdtionz> Wow it says 10x isthe lowest
[08:55] <Puppet_Master> it's an driver CD
[08:56] <Slart> JuzProdtionz: then go with that
[08:56] <JuzProdtionz> 10x is the lowest speed i can burn my intsall
[08:56] <poet> Slart: many reboots have been tried
[08:56] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, from a mobile phone
[08:56] <DJones> raevol: Have you thought about crunchbag linux, looks like they do an ubuntu based "lite" version of crunchbag for the eeepc which is a 448Mb iso http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/downloads/8.10.02
[08:56] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, I can try with another CD
[08:56] <JuzProdtionz> Would 10x work?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: why do you need a driver cd for your phone, are you going to use it in a VM or something?
[08:57] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, I take this CD just for test
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> gotcha
[08:57] <Slart> poet: then I think something else is wrong.. what hardware are you trying to find?
[08:57] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, I need to read CD's
[08:58] <raevol> DJones: thanks, i hadn't seen that
[08:58] <poet> Slart: I have a broadcom 4321 chip for my wireless card, been working fine for the last year or so using restricted drivers
[08:58] <DJones> raevol: your welcome, hope you get installed
[08:58] <poet> recently (I think after a minor update), it is no longer listed anywhere
[08:58] <JuzProdtionz> what does everyone use to burn ISO's someone told me to use CDburnerXP but the lowest it write ubuntu at is 10x
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: have you tried the noacp and nodma boot options
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | Puppet_Master
[08:59] <Slart> !burniso | JuzProdtionz
[08:59] <IINB3> hi guys
[08:59] <xavierg2003> Hello
[08:59] <IINB3> =)
[08:59] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, no
[08:59] <JuzProdtionz> I am using windows because I want to go from windows to linux
[08:59] <JuzProdtionz> im not quite there yet
[09:00] <xavierg2003> I am using windows xp and kubuntu
[09:00] <xavierg2003> So how is everyone doing tonight?
[09:00] <Aske-Denmark> great
[09:01] <JuzProdtionz> i want to dual boot that is what im trying but i need to get a burning program now
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: could be worth a try
[09:01] <xavierg2003> Indeed. you have windows on there first right? because if you load kubuntu after windows it breaks the booter
[09:02] <xxx_> tomb rider
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> xavierg2003: quite the opposite, if you have windows first the install ubuntu the dual boot will be handled for you
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> xavierg2003: just partition windows intelligently so you have unpartitioned space for ubuntu to use
[09:02] <kraut> moin
[09:02] <xavierg2003> indeed my mistake i meant in reverse.  am a little drunk now. so i can not really proof read i am just typeing by instinct
[09:03] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, noacp ? or noapic ?
[09:03] <xavierg2003> I actually tried to partition windows into kubuntu and it did not work very well.
[09:03] <xavierg2003> after i had installed kubuntu as my main os.
[09:04] <christoz> hello, what is the update-notifiers's graphical front end name?
[09:04] <xavierg2003> >.<
[09:04] <Slart> christoz: update-manager?
[09:05] <xavierg2003> So now the silence comences
[09:05] <christoz> Slart, update-manager is a sub menu of it
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> christoz: adept-notifier i believe
[09:05] <christoz> the panel tray icon which appears whenever a package manager is working on gnome
[09:05] <xavierg2003> the end of the world lies in the hands of the rabbid squirells
[09:06] <xavierg2003> not really but whatever no one is answering anyway. so good night ladies and gentlemen.
[09:06] <Slart> christoz: ahhh.. that one... hmm..
[09:07] <soreau> christoz: Use xprop on it?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> xavierg2003: when you install windows, dont hit enter like a standard windows idiot. read the screen and you can leave space unpartitioned, ubuntu will then see the space when you come to install it and the whole dual boot is managed for you
[09:07] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: He's gone
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> oh well
[09:07] <s7itch3s> funkyHat: i'm going to try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[09:07] <christoz> soreau, xpron? what is that?
[09:08] <phjr> hi, I have an up-to-date jaunty and have problems logging in to gnome session; when I log in, I only have black screen, my pidgin starts up but has no window decorations; I tried to create a new user (to have empty homedir), but it was the same (minus pidgin, of course)
[09:08] <Slart> xpron.. sounds.. useful..
[09:08] <soreau> christoz: Not xpron, try reading
[09:08] <Slart> !jaunty | phjr
[09:08] <christoz> .xpron
[09:08] <phjr> Slart: yes I know it's jaunty, but perhaps it can somehow be fixed
[09:09] <Slart> phjr: read what ubottu said.. last sentence
[09:09] <kandinski> hey, is there a Gnome-y GUI-y way to create a virtual serial port for bluetooth under 8.10? I want to configure Ubuntu for bluetooth synching of a Palm Treo phone...
[09:09] <phjr> Slart: and I asked on #ubuntu+1, but that channel is dead
[09:09] <soreau> kandinski: Try google?
[09:09] <christoz> xpron does not exist
[09:09] <Slart> phjr: it's still the place to ask about jaunty.. this channel is for the other releases
[09:09] <phjr> Slart: and there must be a way to fix it, how else can I test other stuff?
[09:09] <kandinski> soreau: already have
[09:10] <soreau> christoz: I never said anything about xpron. *read* what I asked you
[09:10] <Abracadabra> Good morning
[09:10] <christoz> soreau, reading what?
[09:10] <phjr> Slart: well, okay
[09:10] <soreau> If you can't then forget it
[09:10] <kandinski> christoz: he said xprop, not xpron
[09:11] <soreau> kandinski: I'm not sure you will get much support for something that specific here
[09:11] <kandinski> soreau: thanks. on top of that it's for my dad, so CLI-y solutions are not good till I can go visit him
[09:12] <eternaljoy> what irc server is this? freenode.irc ?
[09:12] <soreau> irc.freenode.net
[09:12] <eternaljoy> thanks
[09:14] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, not better
[09:15] <sky_> i need scan some documents from HP 4800 anyone know how i can do that this ?
[09:15]  * G69 /o
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> Puppet_Master: then i would see if there is a weirdness with you make / model drive with your version of firmware
[09:16] <sky_> hmm ?
[09:16] <soreau> sky_: What happens when you plug the scanner to your PC?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[09:17] <Corey-Bear> ok guys i need serious help
[09:17] <Corey-Bear> can anyone hlep me?
[09:17] <soreau> ! anyone | Corey-Bear
[09:17] <Corey-Bear> help'
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Corey-Bear
[09:17] <Corey-Bear> ok here we go
[09:17] <Corey-Bear> so i tried activating my ati graphics card
[09:17] <Corey-Bear> when i reboot
[09:17] <Corey-Bear> it says out of range
[09:17] <soreau> "All in one line"
[09:18] <soreau> Corey-Bear: You probably need to specify refresh rate with resolution in xorg.conf
[09:18] <Seveas> soreau \n how \n about \n a \n vertical \n line \n ? \n :)
[09:18] <Corey-Bear> How do i do that?
[09:18] <soreau> Seveas: Perfect ;)
[09:19] <Corey-Bear> I am a noob with linux
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> !ati | Corey-Bear
[09:19] <Corey-Bear> Wow ive looked at many forums and none of them helped and i didnt even know what they were talking about
[09:19] <Corey-Bear> obviously nobody on here can help either
[09:20] <soreau> obviously since they didn't give you an exacting solution in 5 minutes or less
[09:20] <Corey-Bear> not really soreau
[09:20] <Corey-Bear> I posted another up two days ago
[09:20] <MoLoot> Corey-Bear, who pissed in your Cheerios?  relax and someone will offer advice.
[09:21] <Corey-Bear> I'm sorry guys its been 5 dayd dealing with this problem
[09:21] <bazhang> Corey-Bear, please dont type two words and hit enter
[09:21] <Corey-Bear> Also Baz it was three words lol
[09:21] <sky_> thank you soreau and action
[09:22] <soreau> Corey-Bear: Read this xorg.conf. Maybe you can get some ideas from the Monitor section and or mode lines http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414251
[09:22] <soreau> sky_: I didn't do much but you're welcome
[09:22] <Corey-Bear> Thank you sereau, i just want to know how to activate my graphics card without any problems arising.
[09:23] <Adman65> Hey, I'm trying to setup a cups-pdf to use in xp, cept xp asks me for connection details for the printer.  My login details don't work.  Anyone got any ideas ?
[09:23] <ikonia> Corey-Bear: what graphics card is it ? and what is the problem
[09:23] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: I'm picking up your problem from yesterday now
[09:24] <Corey-Bear> When I Activate Ati 300 something, I reboot and it says out of range, I just wanna know how to configure so and so so that it accepts my video card
[09:24] <binarymutant> nautilus scripts, where do I put them? I tried ~.gnome/nautilus-scripts but it didn't work out
[09:24] <bazhang> Corey-Bear, please read that link
[09:24] <Corey-Bear> or i believe it nvidia video card
[09:24] <Corey-Bear> Bazhang I'm reading the link as we speak
[09:25] <Corey-Bear> It's talking about drivers, and so far i believe i have installed the drivers
[09:25] <ikonia> Corey-Bear: ok 1.) ati driver support is famously bad 2.) if it's a modeline setting "out of range" then looking at the xorg.conf file as suggested earlier is a good place to start 3.) you need to know what drivers you are using as there are multiple available for ATI 4.) why are you mentioning nvidia if you have an ati card ?
[09:26] <Ghoster> does ubuntu 8.10 still not have dual monitor support?
[09:26] <Corey-Bear> I'm sorry Iko its a ATI
[09:26] <soreau> Corey-Bear: If you know how to use a terminal, the output of 'lspci|grep VGA' will tell you exactly which graphics card you have
[09:26] <BlackAeronaut> Howdy all.  Need a bit of assistance getting some video drivers installed - can even get X running properly until I do this so Iḿ stuck in terminal.
[09:26] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: Which graphics card?
[09:26] <Supavisah> Hey people, you know Wubi.. how come I can't select an ISO anymore?
[09:26] <ikonia> Ghoster ubuntu has had dual monitor support from about 5.04 onwards
[09:27] <Ghoster> ikonia, i mean "working" monitor support
[09:27] <ikonia> Ghoster ubuntu has had working dual monitor support from about 5.04 onwards
[09:27] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 X2 Hybrid.
[09:27] <soreau> Ghoster: ubuntu has always had support for dual head configuration. It depends on which graphics card and drivers you're using
[09:27] <crdlb> Ghoster: perhaps you cyould help us help you by telling us what GPU you have
[09:27] <Keal> "su" gives authentication failure when i attempt to login as root
[09:27] <Supavisah> Anyone?
[09:27] <ikonia> Keal: you don't su
[09:27] <ikonia> !sudo > Keal
[09:27] <Ghoster> crdlb, i got a different one since i tried with 7.10 :P
[09:28] <Supavisah> Sudo is greater than Keal? well duh xD
[09:28] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: I already have the tar for the driver depackaged to the root directory.
[09:28] <crdlb> Ghoster: what was the old one?
[09:28] <Ghoster> crdlb, ATI Xpress 1150
[09:28] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: So you'll need to use the proprietary fglrx drivers. First to get into X, open xorg.conf and change the Driver line in the Device section from whatever it is now to "vesa" (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[09:28] <Corey-Bear> I ran that command sereau and it shows my video card,does that mean its installed?
[09:28] <sky_> hmm how i can start hplip in graphic mode ?
[09:28] <Supavisah> mmh, can anyone see my messages?
[09:28] <soreau> Corey-Bear: No, paste that line here so we know for sure which card you have
[09:29] <Ghoster> Supavisah, no :P
[09:29] <soreau> Supavisah: nope
[09:29] <Corey-Bear> corey@corey-desktop:~$ lspci|grep VGA
[09:29] <crdlb> Ghoster: ah, I can see how that might have been difficult, back then, fglrx was even worse than it is now
[09:29] <Corey-Bear> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[09:29] <Supavisah> Damn.. okay well it's confirmed I can be head! :P
[09:29] <biabia> Help please. What package is 'autoexpect' in?
[09:29] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: I can even get X started.  Iǘe been having driver issues in getting Ubuntu to boot properly on my Toshiba Satellite A355D laptop.
[09:30] <knutwin> hi, how can i "remove the arrows of the gnome main menu" that indicate that there is a submenu behind it??
[09:30] <soreau> biabia: In Intrepid it's expect-tcl8.3-dev
[09:30] <Supavisah> So does anyone know why Wubi doesn't support ISO anymore?
[09:30] <sky_> and how to scan ? :D
[09:30] <Puppet_Master> ActionParsnip1, ok
[09:30] <Corey-Bear> Soreau I copied the line corey@corey-desktop:~$ lspci|grep VGA
[09:30] <Corey-Bear> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[09:30] <b1n42y> knutwin: right click on menu
[09:30] <soreau> Corey-Bear: You didn't even need to install any driver. Using intrepid, the drivers are installed by default
[09:31] <knutwin> b1n42y: and then? all i get is "edit menu"
[09:31] <biabia> soreau: sorry, 8.04 here (is that hardy?)
[09:31] <crdlb> Ghoster: so what's your current card?
[09:31] <Corey-Bear> Soreau then why does it say its not activated? Also my games lag up a storm?
[09:31] <soreau> sky_: Use xsane or iscan
[09:31] <knutwin> b1n42y: im on gnome
[09:31] <b1n42y> nah not on the menu on the panle sorry
[09:31] <panto> no irc client  with a look like mirc ui for ubuntu linux?
[09:31] <b1n42y> panel
[09:31] <knutwin> ok
[09:31] <knutwin> :)
[09:31] <Corey-Bear> World of warcraft lags hard and it never used to Soreau
[09:31] <Ghoster> crdlb, 9800GT
[09:31] <soreau> biabia: In hardy it's expect-tcl8.3-dev as well
[09:31] <Iceman_B|ssh> World of Slideshowcraft?
[09:31] <cew_20> ai?
[09:32] <crdlb> Corey-Bear: the driver you're using provided 3d, just not hugely fast 3d
[09:32] <tywashere> Corey-Bear did you set it to opengl?
[09:32] <Supavisah> ah figured it out it seems :P
[09:32] <crdlb> soreau: wouldn't expect-dev be better?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> !irc | panto
[09:32] <b1n42y> biabia: checking for you now
[09:32] <Ghoster> Corey-Bear, its telling you to go find a girl friend!
[09:32] <soreau> Corey-Bear: If you play games then it may be better to use the proprietary fglrx driver
[09:32] <soreau> lol
[09:32] <knutwin> b1n42y: can u explain a lil further?
[09:32] <Corey-Bear> Ghoster i have a girlfriend of 4 years lol
[09:33] <Corey-Bear> Ghoster I think your the one who need sot get laid my friend
[09:33] <Ghoster> Corey-Bear, is she fat?
[09:33] <crdlb> come on now, people ...
[09:33] <Corey-Bear> Ghoster no she is not 120 lbs
[09:33] <soreau> ugh
[09:33] <soreau> Come on guys
[09:33] <Ghoster> Corey-Bear, hahaha... im a system admin and i play no sports.... i obviously have all the girls :p
[09:33] <BlackAeronaut> \:-|
[09:33] <crdlb> Ghoster: that should work fine using nvidia's twinview
[09:33] <Corey-Bear> Ghoster go back to 4chan lol
[09:33] <Ghoster> crdlb, sick!
[09:34] <Ghoster> Corey-Bear, i hear so much about 4chan, but still have no idea what it is :(
[09:34] <Ghoster> hahaha
[09:34] <crdlb> Ghoster: unfortunately they don't support XRandR 1.2, so the fun little "Screen Resolution" panel won't do much
[09:34] <Corey-Bear> Ghoster is now ignored haha I'm not gonna continue with his shinnanagins
[09:34] <crdlb> but nvidia-settings will
[09:34] <biabia> soreau and b1n42y thanks :)
[09:34] <Ghoster> crdlb, whats the best driver to install
[09:34] <soreau> biabia: np
[09:34] <soreau> ! best
[09:34] <tywashere> 4 chan is teh awesome u guyz longcat is LONG LOLOLOL DESU~
[09:34] <crdlb> Ghoster: nvidia-glx-180
[09:35] <Corey-Bear> Soreau can you tell me why I cant activate it then?
[09:35] <Ghoster> Corey-Bear, im not the one playing WoW...
[09:35] <Ghoster> crdlb, awesome... any thing else ill need?
[09:35] <panto> Ghoster system admin where? ...... also any mmoepg or cool game to run on ubuntu :)
[09:35] <soreau> Corey-Bear: I believe you have it installed but you need to tweak xorg.conf to make it set the correct resolution and refresh rate for your monitor
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> Ghoster: make sure its the 180.29 driver, the 32 has bugs
[09:35] <b1n42y> knutwin: make sure your right clicking on menu you might have to move something out of the way, the there should be show buttons option
[09:35] <b1n42y> knutwin: arg PANEL*
[09:35] <crdlb> Ghoster: that's it; note that if you use the "hardware drivers" gui, it will probably only offer -177
[09:35] <Corey-Bear> Soreau, How do I do that man?
[09:36] <synisthetic> I'm trying to follow the ubuntu guide on getting my webcam to work but mencoder segfaults whe nI try to capture video
[09:36] <Ghoster> crdlb, whats wrong with that?
[09:36] <soreau> Corey-Bear: I gave you a link already
[09:36] <Corey-Bear> Soreau think i can talk to you via a messenger please?
[09:36] <crdlb> Ghoster: it's just older :)
[09:36] <synisthetic> it says this right before it does:
[09:36] <Ghoster> ActionParsnip1, any easy way to get it?
[09:36] <synisthetic> ioctl set picture failed: Device or resource busy
[09:36] <synisthetic> The 'outfmt' of 'Planar YV12' is likely not supported by your
[09:36] <soreau> Corey-Bear: No, only here
[09:36] <Corey-Bear> Soreau nvm then man thanks for the help
[09:36] <sky_> soreau: nice xsane works perfectly for me !
[09:36] <soreau> sky_: Awesome
[09:36] <Corey-Bear> I guess I'm doomed when all people do is throw shit around and expect it to be translated
[09:36] <Corey-Bear> pfft
[09:37] <sky_> soreau: its very nice
[09:37] <synisthetic> any thoughts?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> Ghoster: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[09:37] <Ghoster> ActionParsnip1, your kidding right? its that easy?
[09:37] <soreau> synisthetic: Sounds like a driver problem
[09:37] <soreau> ! webcam | synisthetic
[09:37] <tywashere> does anyone know why after I reinstalled 8.10, I cant mount my backup drive? ._.
[09:37] <Ghoster> ActionParsnip1, i was expecting to rip out make and kernel hacking :P
[09:37] <synisthetic> I'm following the first of those links
[09:37] <synisthetic> I will check the second
[09:38] <Keal> how do i deejay via shoutcast using ubuntu 8.10 amd64?
[09:38] <synisthetic> will lspci tell me the webcam I have installed?
[09:38] <sky_> soreau: on windows i had a bigger problems with drivers for Vista...and now on linux is very easy and very nice :))
[09:38] <soreau> synisthetic: If you plug it in with usb, try 'lsusb'
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> Ghoster: its ubuntu, its made to be not hard
[09:38] <soreau> sky_: Glad to hear you have it working now
[09:38] <synisthetic> it's integrated, i don't know what bus it uses soreau
[09:38] <soreau> synisthetic: Ah
[09:39] <synisthetic> ill try both, thanks. hang on
[09:39] <Ghoster> ActionParsnip1, since ubuntu stole all of Debian's good programmers :P
[09:39] <Keal> how do i deejay via shoutcast using ubuntu 8.10 amd64?
[09:39] <synisthetic> Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[09:39] <synisthetic> does this look like it could be the webcam?
[09:40] <synisthetic> I'll google omnivision
[09:40] <sky_> soreau: mmm but i scanned it ..but i cant open it..because it say that i dont have permissions
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> Ghoster: i wouldnt know about that, nor do i care
[09:40] <soreau> sky_: Open what?
[09:40] <sky_> soreau: scanned pictures
[09:40] <tywashere> does anyone know why after I reinstalled 8.10, I cant mount my backup drive? It's telling me I have no permission D:
[09:40] <Keal> the !shoutcast and !darkice tell me nothing :(
[09:40] <soreau> sky_: You didn't run xsane as root or with sudo, did you?
[09:41] <sky_> soreau: i run it as root
[09:41] <soreau> sky_: Don't do that :/
[09:41] <soreau> sky_: Now you have to change the permissions of your picture folder back to user
[09:41] <sky_> soreau: yes it say me that is very dangerous but...hmm
[09:41] <Ghoster> sky_ just run everything as root
[09:42] <soreau> lol
[09:42] <sky_> Ghoster: no !
[09:42] <soreau> Ghoster: Do not give bad advice
[09:42] <Ghoster> soreau, you cant run everything as root
[09:43] <Keal> soreau how do i deejay to a shoutcast server using darkice?
[09:43] <soreau> Keal: Why are you asking me?
[09:43] <Keal> :<
[09:43] <soreau> If I knew I would have told you by now
[09:43] <b4chip> hi there
[09:43] <b4chip> how to ckeck start the sxsh server?
[09:43] <b4chip> *ssh
[09:43] <BlackAeronaut> Okay guys, I am gonna launch into a schpiell here, so just bear with me.  My problem is that I am lacking a proper video driver for my laptop: a Toshiba Satellite A355D series.  The video card is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 X2 Hybrid.  At this time, Ubuntu will boot, but leaves me in Terminal with no other amenities.  Running Startx gives me an error.  Recently, someone helped me to troubleshoot the problem, but now I need a bit of help finishi
[09:44] <sky_> soreau: i tought that if i not run xsane as root i will cannot scan
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> b4chip: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[09:44] <soreau> b4chip: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:44] <christoz> soreau, ok i've xprop update-notifier as you told me, now what?
[09:44] <b4chip> many thx guys
[09:44] <christoz> pastebin it?
[09:45] <soreau> sky_: Well now that you've already run it as root, you might not be able to run it as user because of permission problems. But you should always assume you can do anything as user unless you know exactly why you must be root to do it
[09:46] <sky_> soreau: i scan it again as user :D
[09:47] <_Ester_> hola, hay alguien?
[09:47] <sky_> !espanol
[09:47] <soreau> christoz: Look for WM_CLASS(STRING)
[09:47] <_Ester_> ok, sorry
[09:48] <crdlb> soreau: I don't think you can do that; gnome-panel is the toplevel window
[09:48] <soreau> crdlb: That sucks :/
[09:49] <christoz> soreau, WM_CLASS(STRING) = "gnome-panel", "Gnome-panel"
[09:49] <soreau> heh
[09:49] <soreau> christoz: Read what crdlb just said
[09:49] <BlackAeronaut> Can somebody help me?  I can get X running properly until I finish installing a video driver.
[09:50] <BlackAeronaut> *can
[09:50] <christoz> what is crdlb?
[09:50] <soreau> ...
[09:50] <BlackAeronaut> *cannot
[09:50] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: Which graphics card is it?
[09:50] <christoz> wait, manning it
[09:50] <BlackAeronaut> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 X2
[09:50] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: So you'll need to use fglrx.. what's the problem exactly?
[09:51] <synisthetic> my webcam appears to be one that does not play nice with ubuntu :(
[09:51] <BlackAeronaut> I am a nube.
[09:51] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: That can be a problem indeed ;)
[09:51] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: amen.
[09:51] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: So where are you at in the install and what have you tried so far etc?
[09:52] <sky_> ati+linux=fail :D
[09:52] <BlackAeronaut> soreau:  Well, I was sent the tar.gz by a friend who was helping me out earlier...
[09:52] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: Is that to say you have no internet on the problem box?
[09:53] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: And Iǘe managed to get that tar file depackaged into the root directory.
[09:53] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: Thatś right.  I may be able to manually configure from Terminal, but only if that is not dependant on any graphical interface.
[09:54] <_Ester_> Please, somebody can help me?
[09:54] <soreau> _Ester_: Not if you don't ask a valid question..
[09:54] <sky_> !ask
[09:54] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: In that case you'll need an installation guide, hang on
[09:54] <soreau> ! ati
[09:55] <mrdudle> _Ester_, what is the problem?
[09:55] <_Ester_> ok, I have a problem with Firefox 3.0.7, I can't see videos, it apears a gray arrow (sorry, but my English is bad)
[09:55] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: Thank you much.  I will stay on the channel and keep you guys informed.
[09:56] <mrdudle> _Ester_, do you have flash installed?
[09:56] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: Read the latter part of this guide where it talks about installing from ati.com https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:56] <_Ester_> yes, the Flash Adobe 10
[09:56] <mrdudle> hmm
[09:56] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: thanks!
[09:56] <sky_> _Ester_: flashplugin-nonfree
[09:56] <b1n42y> _Ester_: about:plugins just to make sure
[09:56] <b1n42y> arg
[09:57] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: The only thing is, I would recommend you get the internet on any linux box you use. It will make life SO much easier for you
[09:57] <b1n42y> _Ester_  about:plugins in address abr
[09:57] <b1n42y> oh ffs
[09:57] <mrdudle> I appear to have problems with my sound. when sound is suppose to be made i just get static
[09:57] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: easier said than done on a box where X does not even run!  :p
[09:57] <soreau> _Ester_: Yes, install flashplugin-nonfree package and restart FireFox
[09:57] <sky_> _Ester_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:58] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: Not really. If you plugin an ethernet cable offering DHCP it should justwork
[09:58] <sky_> _Ester_: type it to console - tu escribes por console ? (my esp suxx :D )
[09:59] <_Ester_> b1n42y:  application/x-shockwave-flash 	Adobe Flash movie 	swf 	Sí
[09:59] <_Ester_> b1n42y: application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash movie 	spl 	Sí
[09:59] <mrdudle> I appear to have problems with my sound. when sound is suppose to be made i just get static. Anyone have any ideas?
[09:59] <sky_> _Ester_: type command what i said to console
[09:59] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: stuck with wireless. no choice there.
[09:59] <_Ester_> sky_: ok, but I tried that comand yesterday
[09:59] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: Well. Best of luck to you my friend.
[10:00] <soreau> ! audio | mrdudle
[10:00] <mrdudle> ty soreau
[10:01] <synisthetic> people on google claim my webcam works out of the box in ubuntu but it dosn't seem to for me
[10:01] <sky_> _Ester_: now what ?
[10:02] <_Ester_> sky_: flashplugin-nonfree ja es troba en la versió més recent.
[10:02] <_Ester_> 0 actualitzats, 0 nous a instal·lar, 0 a eliminar i 14 no actualitzats.
[10:02] <sky_> wait i go use google translator :
[10:02] <sky_> :D
[10:03] <_Ester_> sky_: jajaja sorry, it's catalan
[10:03] <soreau> _Ester_: Which website is giving the problem?
[10:04] <sky_> i think youtube ? :)
[10:04] <synisthetic> is there any software in ubuntu that loads by default that might use the webcam and explain why I keep getting device or resource busy
[10:04] <synisthetic> "libv4l2: error requesting 4 buffers: Device or resource busy" is what I get whenever I try to use the webcam. I did add my user to the 'video' group so he can read/write to the device
[10:05] <_Ester_> soreau: for example youtube
[10:05] <massiveoni> does anyone know how long the class tomorrow goes for in #ubuntu-classroom?
[10:05] <soreau> _Ester_: Then if flashplugin-nonfree is installed and you restarted FireFox I don't know what could be wrong
[10:06] <soreau> massiveoni: There's a #ubuntu-classroom? (why not ask your question there)
[10:06] <massiveoni> i have, but no-one is answering
[10:06] <_Ester_> soreau: so I neither
[10:07] <_Ester_> and it is posible removing this version and intall the firefox 2.?
[10:07] <soreau> _Ester_: Does it show when you type in the firfox browser bar about:plugins
[10:07] <noren_> test
[10:08] <sky_> aaa i had this problem in Kubuntu tooo but i dont remember how i fix it :X
[10:08] <_Ester_> soreau: I tink it's all right
[10:08] <sky_> _Ester_: try to reinstall it ?
[10:09] <_Ester_> sky_:  how?
[10:09] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: I just ran iwconfig and it looks like things on that end are already setup (thank God for small miracles).  On that install guide, they have no instructions for Intrepid Ibex.  Will the instructions for Hardy Heron work instead?
[10:10] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: Loosely, yes they should
[10:10] <BlackAeronaut> soreau: Thanks again.
[10:10] <synisthetic> argh why does it seem like something is using my webcam
[10:10] <synisthetic> the light is on, too.
[10:10] <sky_> _Ester_: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree*
[10:10] <sky_> _Ester_: and install it again :D
[10:10] <MrPink08> hey, my pidgin stopped working and I had to install a new version, so I downloaded the new version and tried to install it, and then I got some dependancy errors, now synaptic removed pidgin completely... and when I try to install the .deb file I get "Dependency is not satisfiable: libgadu3" any ideas?
[10:10] <_Ester_> and for example, yesterday I wanted to buay something by the Internet, and the image that I had to click on didn't apear
[10:11] <_Ester_> ok, I'm going to try it
[10:11] <synisthetic> is therea way to see what applications are using that devices?
[10:11] <MrPink08> I've tried to apt-get install libgadu3 but it says "libgadu3 is already the newest version"
[10:11] <synisthetic> *device
[10:11] <soreau> BlackAeronaut: I don't know if 'aticonfig --initial' is uptodate but as long as 'grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf' shows fglrx you should be good
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: the latest pidgin is on the repos
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: if you sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search pidgin
[10:13] <sky_> ActionParsnip1: i think he must remove old lib library ?
[10:14] <soreau> synisthetic: You can use lsmod to see which drivers are loaded. If you know which driver is using your device, you can remove it with rmmod and reload it with modprobe
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: maye, perhaps the install will sort it
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: sudo apt-get --reinstall install pidgin
[10:15] <sky_> or you can compile it from the source
[10:15] <_Ester_> sky_: I've removed and installed and the problem remains
[10:15] <sky_> _Ester_: now it works ?
[10:15] <_Ester_> no
[10:15] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: I thought it was apt-get install --reinstall <pkg>
[10:15] <sky_> :-O
[10:16]  * sky_ is thinking
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: same thing
[10:16] <MrPink08> ActionParsnip1: When I do that I get: "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:16] <MrPink08>   pidgin: Depends: libpurple0 (>= 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.3) but it is not going to be installed
[10:16] <MrPink08>           Depends: pidgin-data (< 1:2.4.1-z) but 1:2.5.5-1~getdeb1 is to be installed
[10:16] <MrPink08> E: Broken packages"
[10:16] <FloodBot1> MrPink08: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:16] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: I didn't know --reinstall would work alone
[10:17] <MrPink08> sry I thought it was short enough :-/
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: its an option of apt-get
[10:17] <MrPink08> my question seemed longer then the paste ^^
[10:17] <sky_> you msut first remove libpurple0
[10:17] <funkyHat> soreau: read ActionParsnip1's command again
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: sudo apt-get --purge remove pidgin* libpurple*
[10:17] <MrPink08> I first did the update, then I did the cache search and then I did the --reinstall install... but I get the error I posted above
[10:18] <MrPink08> ok
[10:18] <BlackAeronaut1> Gah!  I hate it when that happens.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install pidgin
[10:18] <badcat> hi all, any audio buffs here? i need help with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132950/ (i'm trying to set up my soundcard using this tutorial: http://forums.presonus.com/showthread.php?t=5306) thank you in advance
[10:18] <MrPink08> after the first Command I get "Couldn't find package pidgin"
[10:19] <sky_> !flash
[10:19] <MrPink08> is that normal? -.-
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: if you are using the getdeb version you need ALL the debs on the screen you downloaded then from, if you upgrade you will have to remove them as the version numbers can cause issues
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: did you use pidgin* and not just pidgin (like it says in my command)
[10:20] <MrPink08> yes
[10:20] <MrPink08> "sudo apt-get --purge remove pidgin* libpurple*" is what I typed
[10:20] <Cosmo-san> yo, is we awake?
[10:20] <sky_> _Ester_: If Flash doesn't load in Firefox/Konqueror after doing the above, you can re-download the plugin from scratch by issuing the following:
[10:20] <sky_> sudo update-flashplugin
[10:21] <MrPink08> ActionParsnip1: so do I continue with the 2. command with autoremove or not yet?
[10:21] <sleepy_cat> how to embedding many files into one exe through resources
[10:21] <Cosmo-san> what do I need to install to use the java compiler on Ubuntu?
[10:21] <_Ester_> sky_: ok
[10:21] <sky_> javac ?
[10:21] <dman> any idea why when i hotplug my sata disk on my server it keeps incrementing its device id?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: do both commands
[10:22] <sleepy_cat> I have a pdf file a txt doc etc.. how can i embed them into a single executible
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: we just want rid of the old version
[10:22] <_Ester_> sky_: sonia@sonia-portatil:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[10:22] <_Ester_> sudo: update-flashplugin: command not found
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> sleepy_cat: what would the executable do exactly?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> _Ester_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree     if ou want flash
[10:23] <sky_> ActionParsnip1: but he/she have problem that video dont appear
[10:23] <Cosmo-san> sky_: sudo apt-get install javac ?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> _Ester_: are you running 64bit linux or 32bit?
[10:24]  * yawg sighs
[10:24] <yawg> :D
[10:24] <_Ester_> ActionParsnip1: mmmm I don't know, how can I see it?
[10:24] <sky_> _Ester_: which CPU you have ?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> _Ester_: please can you give the output of uname -a
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: you can run 32bit linux on 64bit cpu
[10:25] <sky_> ActionParsnip1: oh yes
[10:25] <sky_> -_-
[10:25] <_Ester_> ActionParsnip1: this? Linux sonia-portatil 2.6.24-23-generic #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 00:13:11 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:25] <sky_> tss
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: uname -a will give us the arch of linux
[10:25] <sky_> _Ester_: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> _Ester_: ok you are running 32bit   i686 == 32bit
[10:26] <MrPink08> ActionParsnip1: when I used "sudo apt-get install pidgin" it seems like it installed pidgin 2.4.1 or something... but not pidgin 2.5.5 like I  believe I need....
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> _Ester_: what sky_ said
[10:26] <sky_> sry for bad advice
[10:26] <sky_> but i thought that you have 64bit
[10:26] <sky_> so i said you flashplugin-nonfree and he is for 64bit -_-
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: ok is your ubuntu 32bit or 64bit?
[10:27] <sky_> ActionParsnip1: he dont need to remove flashplugin-nonfree M
[10:27] <MrPink08> ActionParsnip1: 32bit... but it seems to be working
[10:27] <_Ester_> ah ok, and what I have to do now?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: should be fine with
[10:27] <b1n42y> how do i unmount iso files in cli
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: then cool
[10:27] <sky_> _Ester_: ok so
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: sudo mount -o loop /path/to.file.iso /media/cdrom0
[10:28] <sky_> _Ester_: Open a terminal and type to console sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <MrPink08> ActionParsnip1: its 2.4.1 like I think I had before but now it connects to the ICQ Network... which is really strange... but it doesn't matter...
[10:28] <MrPink08> ActionParsnip1: thanks a lot!
[10:28] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: unmount ?
[10:28] <rtew442> b1n42y: sudo umount /mountpoint
[10:28] <sky_> _Ester_: then sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[10:28] <b1n42y> ta
[10:28] <sky_> _Ester_: restart your firefox
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> MrPink08: indeed,if its not broke dont fix it
[10:28] <b1n42y> rtew442: thnaks
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: sudo umount /mount/point
[10:29]  * b1n42y Slaps ActionParsnip1 with smelly trout for not reading the question
[10:29] <marcusdavidus> hello
[10:29] <_Ester_> sky_: when I write sudo apt-get remove... it gaves me error!
[10:29] <marcusdavidus> i got problem with instalation of ubuntu 8.10
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: make sure your pwd is not in the mount point or it will be flagged as "busy"
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: habit, tonnes of folks ask how tomount iso
[10:29] <Slart> b1n42y: how did ActionParsnip1 not answer your question?
[10:29] <sky_> _Ester_: which ? (pastebin it -> http://pastebin.com/)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> Slart: he wanted UNmount
[10:30] <marcusdavidus>  i  boot it from hdd using unetbootin and everything looks fine til i try to install it it dont show hdd in instalator. fdisk find hddd and gpardet also so i have no idea wtf is going on
[10:30] <Slart> b1n42y: oh.. the first answer.. I only saw the second
[10:30] <BlackAeronaut1> Quick help: Nube here needs to enable the restricted modules in Intrepid, but I gotta do it manually because I am stuck in Terminal.  Can someone help?
[10:30]  * b1n42y slaps Slart with 2 week old trout for arguing with me ..... hehehe
[10:30] <_Ester_> sky_: ok
[10:30] <bazhang> b1n42y, please stop that
[10:31] <b1n42y> bazhang: sorry
[10:31] <rtew442> b1n42y: you can get kicked for that
[10:31] <marcusdavidus> so ny one get a clue why ubuntu instalator dont see disk when gpardet see iit ?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: try booting with noacpi and/or nodma
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | marcusdavidus
[10:31] <marcusdavidus> man gpardet from ubuntu works and see disk
[10:32] <marcusdavidus>  and i know all this comands  mate :P
[10:32] <BlackAeronaut1> Nube here needs some quick help.  I need to enable the restricted modules in Intrepid in order to apt-get some ATI video drivers, but I gotta do it manually because I am stuck in Terminal.  Can someone help?
[10:32] <marcusdavidus> i rly try everything i know from debian and im unable to pass tru instalation is wierd that gparted see disk and instalator dont
[10:32] <_Ester_> sky_: i have put my error, i'm sonia
[10:32] <rtew442> marcusdavidus: s/gpardet/gparted
[10:32] <Slart> marcusdavidus: just a normal partition on a normal hard drive?
[10:33] <marcusdavidus>  entire drive i can chroot to my gentoo  without problems
[10:33] <marcusdavidus>  so why instalator dont see it ?
[10:33] <marcusdavidus>  and remmebr i dont boot from cd i boot  from hdd  partition using unetbootin
[10:34] <yana> hi how to install LAMP apache server
[10:34] <yana> ?
[10:34] <Slart> !lamp
[10:35] <Slart> yana: there is a link there... in the middle of what ubottu said
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: try a different mirror
[10:35] <yana> can u tell me that to write in terminal?
[10:36] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  cd  image is good for sure i can normally install it on vmware
[10:36] <julian_w> hi im stuck with the command "du" i want in a subfolder that du shows me the total of the 4 subfolders not of all subfolder of my subfolders you know ;)
[10:36] <Slart> yana: write this "firefox https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP"
[10:36] <rtew442> julian_w: du -sh folder
[10:36] <julian_w> ahhhh
[10:36] <marcusdavidus> ok lets make another question anyone instal ubuntu live cd using unetbootin ?
[10:36] <julian_w> i always just did du -sh in my folder
[10:37]  * BlackAeronaut1 blinks.
[10:37] <julian_w> thanks rtew442
[10:37] <BlackAeronaut1> Nube here needs some quick help.  I need to enable the restricted modules in Intrepid in order to apt-get some ATI video drivers, but I gotta do it manually because I am stuck in Terminal.  Can someone help?
[10:37] <marcusdavidus> becouse if this dont works i just debootstrap it need test it for my gf before i install her ubuntu becouse she have no idea aboute *nix
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: id still md5 check the iso just to be sure
[10:37] <marcusdavidus> !unetbootin
[10:38] <_Ester_> well, I'm going to remove the firefox 3. and I'm going to install it again, thanks for all
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: she wont need to after you have set it up for her
[10:38] <sky_> _Ester_: no !
[10:38] <_Ester_> sky_: yes, why no? if it don't works...
[10:38] <funkyHat> _Ester_: that won't help
[10:38] <synisthetic> does anyone know why the repo http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu/ isn't working for me? I added the line 'deb http://blognux.free.fr/ubuntu hardy main' to my sources.list file
[10:38] <marcusdavidus> action yes is why i choose ubuntu fore her . if i sintall her an gentoo she kick my ass to moon if she wanna instal something and need to wait 30 inutes
[10:39] <synisthetic> I get a 404 not found error when I do sudo apt-get update
[10:39] <marcusdavidus> srry for typos
[10:39] <funkyHat> _Ester_: if you don't have any bookmarks or other settings you want to save you could delete the .mozilla directory in your home folder
[10:39] <sky_> _Ester_: on linux we dont fix problems as in Windows (removin, installing it again or something like that)
[10:39] <Slart> synisthetic: what version of ubuntu are you running? have you tried using another mirror?
[10:39] <_Ester_> yes, i will install an older version
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: then any package based system willroll
[10:39] <synisthetic> Slart, intrepid, but there are only packages for hardy that I can find. I did look for anotehr mirror, but i can't find any. The confusing this is if i browse to that repo in firefox it seems fine
[10:39] <sky_> _Ester_: try to download adobe-flashplugin ?
[10:40] <Slart> synisthetic: hmm.. and regular web browsing works ok?
[10:40] <rtew442> synisthetic: you can't mix packages from hardy and intrepid
[10:40] <sky_> _Ester_: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[10:40] <synisthetic> yeah you can even try for yourself, it SEEMS like the files are there but i dont know the subtle points of how a repo is supposed to be organized
[10:40] <synisthetic> oh
[10:40] <synisthetic> :(
[10:40] <marcusdavidus> ok never mind i found why this  instalator dont works
[10:40] <Slart> synisthetic: check in system, administration, software sources.. there should be a drop down selector with some mirrors.
[10:40] <marcusdavidus>  becouse ubuntu mount hdd as cdrom OMFG
[10:41] <synisthetic> I'm trying to install easycam and I did it from the .deb but the result was not usable
[10:41] <funkyHat> _Ester_: can you browse to about:plugins in a firefox window, and tell me how many sections there are called shockwave flash?
[10:41] <marcusdavidus>  i just force umount everything and instalator see hdd now thanx anyway
[10:41] <sky_> _Ester_: if nothing happend you dont have enabled restricted repositories
[10:41] <synisthetic> I see mirrors for the main ubuntu repos but not this one
[10:41] <synisthetic> which I added myself
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: it mounts them like all other linuxes
[10:42] <_Ester_> sky_: it gives me error, ahhhhh I am going to throw the computer for the window!!!
[10:42] <Slart> marcusdavidus: odd.. wonder if it's some kind of feature of unetbootin..
[10:42] <Slart> synisthetic: ah.. you're using a 3rd party repository
[10:42] <synisthetic> yeah because I tried installing the .deb and the result was not usable. it was missing something
[10:42] <synisthetic> I was hopign this repo had a more up to date version
[10:42] <synisthetic> the website for this tool is in french, I can't read it
[10:42] <synisthetic> babelfish makes no sense
[10:43] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:   not rly debian by unetbootin dont mount all partitions on boot under cdrom when i boot him from hdd . anyway like i say nvm
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: how do you mean under cdrom?
[10:43] <goblin> ok I'm trying to run the Kubuntu 8.10 live cd..I got to the kdm prompt, I use ubuntu as user and no pass, it goes past that then falls back to kdm
[10:43] <goblin> any ideas?
[10:43] <synisthetic> all of this is just to try to get my webcam work, and people say it works out of the box in 8.x
[10:43] <synisthetic> but it isn't working for me
[10:43] <synisthetic> *to work
[10:44] <Slart> synisthetic: well.. not a lot you can do about it then =/ ... perhaps you can ask for help in #ubuntu-fr , see if someone can translate the important parts for you
[10:44] <synisthetic> ok thanks
[10:44] <synisthetic> do you happen to know how to get the integrated webcam working on an inspiron 1420?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: did you md5 chek the iso as well as verify the burned cd was consistant?
[10:44] <synisthetic> when I try using it with cheese I get "device or resource busy" but I can't find anything else using it
[10:44] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  he m,ount hdd partitoons as removable media not as hdd
[10:44] <synisthetic> mencoder just segfaults.
[10:45] <marcusdavidus>  is why gpared see disk and instalator dont
[10:45] <Slart> synisthetic: nope.. googling for output from "lspci" or "lsusb" might get you some hits.. but that's about all the advice I have on webcams
[10:45] <Seedso> synisthetic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: the drive shouldnt be mounted at all
[10:45] <synisthetic> I did that Slart thats how I got this far
[10:45] <BlackAeronaut1> Question: How do you manually add linux-restricted-modules-common to your repositories so you can apt-get it?
[10:45] <marcusdavidus>  i just force unmount every partitions and  run instalator
[10:45] <synisthetic> Seedso, I've followed that but encountered the aforementioned problems
[10:45] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  like i say i boot it from HDD not from cdrom
[10:46] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: isn't that in the main repos?
[10:46] <goblin> ActionParsnip1 didn't check but that's never been a problem
[10:46] <Slart> !info linux-restricted-modules-common
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: your cd may be bad, go check it out
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: there is a good reason md5 exists
[10:46] <goblin> I never had to check md5 when downloading from official sites
[10:47] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: I seem to be having all kinds of problems with drivers right now.
[10:47] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: ah.. try system, administration, software sources.. check the checkbox next to "Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)"
[10:47] <goblin> Anyways thanks...I guess Ubuntu is not meant to be for me
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: its for a lot of people
[10:47] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: issue is video drivers.  I can even get X to start at this time - Iḿ stuck in terminal so anything I do must be done manually.
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: all you have to do is calculate the ISOs md5 and compare it to the one on the servers, if it matches you know that its good
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: its not hard
[10:48] <abe3k> Hello, guys I'm using opera browser in ubuntu and I can't seem to find how to turn on the autoscroll for the middle mouse button, please help
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: then you got lucky
[10:48] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: ahh.. it doesn't even start in the failsafe mode?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: there is no 100% garuntee that ANY file you download is correct due to transmission errors, bad interfaces and noise
[10:48] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: it just starts me in Terminal with no other ammenities.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: i get a lot of folks in here who realise their image is bad when the install fails and then they check the file they downloaded and its WRONG
[10:49] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: what videocard are you using?
[10:50] <crdlb> goblin: since the cd is already burned, you can probably just run the the verifier on the cd's menu
[10:50] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 X2 on a Toshiba Satellite A355D series (AMD Turion X2 Ultra 64).
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: the burning process can also go awry, thats why the cd has a self test on the first screen, so you can double check that, if both pass, you can be 100% sure that any issues are not accreditted to the cd being bad
[10:51] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: hmm.. ati can be tricky..even more so on a laptop... does a live cd boot alright?
[10:51] <marcusdavidus> hmm i got question . new one . anyone know is hybrid sli will be avalible on linux ?
[10:51] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: Nothing boots right.  I always get Terminal.
[10:51] <rkvirani> Could someone please tell me why the fuk tasksel wont install php
[10:51] <rkvirani> it keeps asking me to download .phtml files
[10:52] <rkvirani> tis pissing me off
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> !ohmy | rkvirani
[10:52] <bazhang> rkvirani, watch the language
[10:52] <rkvirani> I have compiled from scratch many many many many times apache
[10:52] <rkvirani> and pph and myslq
[10:52] <abe3k> Guys I'm using opera browser in ubuntu and I can't seem to find how to turn on the autoscroll for the middle mouse button, please help
[10:52] <rkvirani> And the config is so convoluded
[10:52] <rkvirani> How DO I ENABLE PHP?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> abe3k: i'd ask in #opera if its an opera function
[10:52] <bazhang> rkvirani, lose the caps
[10:52] <rkvirani> I tried to do things the easy way and they dont WORK\
[10:52] <goblin> where can I get the md5 for the official kubuntu 8.10 iso?
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[10:53] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: hmm... I can't really help you any further.. not sure what to try if not even vesa works..sorry
[10:53] <Slart> !md5
[10:53] <rkvirani> bazhang: sorry? What should I do?
[10:53] <rkvirani> bazhang: how do I get php working?
[10:53] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: anytime I have tried to apt-get any of the modules I need, I get an error saying that the modules are not installed.  Think you can help me there?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> abe3k: 64bit or 32bit
[10:53] <erUSUL> !lamp | rkvirani
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: desktop or server?
[10:54] <rkvirani> This silly thing keeps asking me if I want to download php flies
[10:54] <rkvirani> ubottu: thats not helpfull
[10:54] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: perhaps.. any error messages?
[10:54] <rkvirani> ubottu: then shutup
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[10:54] <goblin> ActionParsnip1 desktop
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> goblin: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/8.10/MD5SUMS
[10:54] <rkvirani> erUSUL: oh irs erUSUL heh I know what lamp is
[10:54] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: Let me run the apt-get again and see what I pull up.
[10:54] <rkvirani> \do you know the solution?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> abe3k: sorry was for goblin
[10:54] <rkvirani> if not then perhaps you should keep quiet
[10:55] <erUSUL> rkvirani: on the page there are instructions a troubleshooting for php activation
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> erUSUL: gone
[10:55] <goblin> well apparently md5 sums differ..oh well
[10:55] <goblin> nice talking to you fellas
[10:55] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[10:55] <rkvirani> Why did it kik me?
[10:55] <rkvirani> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml
[10:55] <sipior> rkvirani: your poor manners would be one guess.
[10:55] <rkvirani> the following lines dont help in mime.conf
[10:56] <bazhang> rkvirani, stay nice and you can remain
[10:56] <rkvirani> sipior: you have no idea how frustrating this is
[10:56] <rkvirani> I wanted to do things the 'ubuntu' way and it doesnt work this is so simple
[10:56] <rkvirani> and the config they put is so convoluded
[10:56] <bazhang> rkvirani, compiling all of that is not the ubuntu way
[10:56] <rkvirani> bazhang: what?
[10:57] <rkvirani> bazhang: are you listening?
[10:57] <rkvirani> I didnt compile anything
[10:57] <rkvirani> read
[10:57] <rkvirani> bazhang: I used tasksel
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> rkvirani: its attitude like that that got you kicked out earlier
[10:57] <bazhang> rkvirani, please stop with the enter key.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> rkvirani: i'd suggest you change or the past will repeat itself
[10:57] <rkvirani> 4Ache's not listneing
[10:58] <rkvirani> nm
[10:58] <rkvirani> Im going to compile this cause obviously you dont know the answer
[10:58] <bazhang> rkvirani read the links
[10:58] <bazhang> oops
[10:58] <medfly> how would someone normally go about using a scanner on ubuntu? I've fetched "sane", but that attempt proved unsuccessful.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> hes gone, thank god
[10:58] <ActionParsnip1> medfly: what scanner is it?
[10:59] <medfly> its a HP officejet J5783 scanner that does some other things.
[10:59] <synisthetic> I cant get the kernel-headers package, but I did enable the source repository in software sources
[10:59] <yana> please tell me why i cant do anything in browser while installing updates?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> medfly: http://howto.wikia.com/wiki/Howto_get_an_HP_OfficeJet_scanner_to_work_in_Linux
[11:00] <marcusdavidus> yana: pat use whole bandwich ?
[11:00] <medfly> oh, thank you :)
[11:00] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: Gah...  Forgive me, but I have run my brain into a nice little circle so I have pretty much forgotten what the hell I am doing.  My goal right now is to get the right video driver installed, but this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` returns an error.
[11:00] <marcusdavidus> apt*
[11:00] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: ok.. what error?
[11:00] <medfly> sorry, I should have googled :)
[11:00] <BlackAeronaut1> Hold on, let me run that command again.  Iḿ having to jump between this working box and the fubar one.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> medfly: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD
[11:01] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: package not installed or something like that?
[11:01] <marcusdavidus> BlackAeronaut1:  but dont paste it here use some pastebin server
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> medfly: those results are from msn search ;)
[11:02] <medfly> ActionParsnip1, I should have MSN-ed :)
[11:02] <synisthetic> is kernel-headers the right name for the package which contains the kernel headers?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> medfly: hehe, i use multiple search engines for better results
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> !info kernel-headers
[11:03] <sipior> synisthetic: linux-headers, i believe
[11:03] <yana> sorry tell me please, why i cant do anything in browser while installing
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> !find header
[11:03] <yana> ?
[11:03] <synisthetic> thanks so much sipior. the howto i'm reading is out of date i think
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: run uname -a to find your kernel version
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: you can then run: apt-cache search header <kernel numbers>
[11:04] <synisthetic> thanks ActionParsnip1
[11:04] <kandinski> how can I make it so a particular ubuntu user: a) boots directly into just one application b) can't quit such application, or rather sees it restart when they quit ?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: use this instead
[11:04] <sipior> kandinski: depends; what application did you have in mind?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: bit easier ;)
[11:04] <synisthetic> thanks :)
[11:05] <synisthetic> i actually already had them installed
[11:05] <synisthetic> I didn't realize it
[11:05]  * ActionParsnip1 thinks kernel headers should be in a standard install
[11:05] <synisthetic> evidently the yare
[11:05] <synisthetic> haha
[11:05] <Lint> $(uname -r) without `s?
[11:05] <sipior> ActionParsnip1: yeah, agreed :-)
[11:05] <kandinski> sipior: it has to be for x apps
[11:06] <synisthetic> I am so bummed that my webcam doesn't work when everyone else on google says it works out of the box
[11:06] <kandinski> so the people who are going to start them see the gdm prompt
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: maybe there are drivers some place
[11:06] <synisthetic> that's what im trying.. UVC package
[11:06] <synisthetic> dunno if it will help
[11:06] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: Okay, here is what gets returned:
[11:06] <BlackAeronaut1> Package ĺinux-restricted-modules-uname' is not installed and no info is available.  (break)  Package '-r' is not installed and no info is available.  (break)  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-restricted-modules-uname -r is not installed.
[11:06] <synisthetic> everyone claims it just blam works though, which is confusing. even people using 64bit
[11:06] <marcusdavidus> synisthetic: what webcam ?
[11:07] <sipior> kandinski: this might be useful for setting up a kiosk: http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/linuxkiosk/ubuntu02.htm
[11:07] <synisthetic> let me get the exact number. it's the one that comes integrated in a dell inspiron 1420
[11:07] <kandinski> sipior: ta
[11:07] <synisthetic> OmniVision OV2640
[11:07] <rkvirani> Im using 64-bit
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: run lsusb to identify it
[11:07] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: are you sure you used `uname -r` and not 'uname -r'?
[11:07] <Sepperl> Where can I have Help in German language?
[11:07] <rkvirani> bat that shouldnt break crap
[11:07] <synisthetic> Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[11:07] <synisthetic> is the relevant lsusb line
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> !de | Sepperl
[11:07] <ubd_> hello nfs-common is installed \ do i need nfs-kernel-server_
[11:07] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: those little specks are important.. there are several kinds
[11:07] <Sepperl> !de
[11:08] <marcusdavidus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732423 synisthetic
[11:08] <sipior> kandinski: i guess Sabayon will be the principal component of any gnome solution you'll implement.
[11:08] <Sepperl> actionParsnip it dont work?
[11:08] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: The hell!?  Jeeze, I hate that...  ` and ' look so alike.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: do you have cheese installed?
[11:08] <synisthetic> yes, I did install cheese. it gives a "device or resource busy error"
[11:08] <ActionParsnip1> Sepperl: /j #ubuntu-de
[11:08] <synisthetic> i also saw that link marcusdavidus but maybe I didn't understand it well enough
[11:09] <synisthetic> afaik NOTHING else is using the cam
[11:09] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: we've all been there.. `blabla` means execute what is between the specks and replace it with the result.. 'blabla' is just used for quoting
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> synisthetic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732423
[11:09] <synisthetic> they mention UVC in that thread whch is wht im trying now
[11:09] <synisthetic> the other advice earlier in the thread didn't seem to work
[11:09] <rkvirani> Is ther any reason lamp server shouldnt work with 64-bit?
[11:10] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: well, I am gonna see if that did something for me.  ^_^;
[11:10] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: =)
[11:10] <sipior> rkvirani: not particularly. how did you install it?
[11:10] <yana> it has installed something
[11:10] <yana> but askes again
[11:10] <vigo> Youtube stopped working on this one also, just tried it and noticed. let me get to figuring.
[11:10] <rkvirani> tasksel
[11:11] <yana> about my password
[11:11] <rkvirani> sipior: tasksel
[11:11] <sipior> rkvirani: and which component doesn't work?
[11:11] <rkvirani> sipior: php
[11:11] <rkvirani> sipior: it asks me to download the files instead of rendering them
[11:11] <Sepperl> Can you help me with Orca Screenreader, please?
[11:11] <sipior> rkvirani: can you simply install php5 via apt-get?
[11:11] <yana> i cant find lamp .after installing how to use lamp?where to go
[11:12] <rkvirani> and Im so pissed because I do this all day at work on SLES with manual compiles and installation and everything just works
[11:12] <yana> ?
[11:12] <rkvirani> sipior: probably
[11:12] <rkvirani> but I Read on the ofrums use tasksel so I did
[11:12] <rkvirani> yana: I think its broken
[11:13] <sipior> rkvirani: well, i would assume they are equivalent, but perhaps not. in any event, try using apt-get, see if anything was left out.
[11:13] <rkvirani> sipior: what package?
[11:13] <sipior> rkvirani: well, php5, to start
[11:14] <rkvirani> sipior: nope same thing
[11:14] <sipior> rkvirani: well, how is it failing, exactly?
[11:15] <rkvirani> sipior: its asking me to download .php files instead of render them
[11:15] <rkvirani> its a configuration issue
[11:15] <rkvirani> probably with SetHandler or some such
[11:15] <sipior> rkvirani: then you need to fix your web browser configuration, i imagine.
[11:15] <Sepperl> Does anyone here knows anything about the Orca-Screenreader?
[11:15] <Lint> sipirior: ho he don't
[11:15] <rkvirani> sipior: or AddType
[11:15] <rkvirani> sipior: works fine on phpmyadmin
[11:16] <rkvirani> sipior: this has nothing to do with the web-browser
[11:16] <sipior> rkvirani: beg pardon, i did of course mean web server.
[11:17] <rkvirani> sipior: oh :)
[11:17] <rkvirani> yes indeed but I havent touched the config
[11:17] <rkvirani> I just plopped a php app in /var/www
[11:17] <sipior> rkvirani: well, you'll need to :-)
[11:17] <marcusdavidus> rkvirani: sudo aptitude install apache2 php5 php-pear mysql-server-5.0 php5-mysql
[11:17] <marcusdavidus> and it shoudl works
[11:20] <marcusdavidus> hmm another problem mpd dont want to work with pulseaudio  when flash is on in ff
[11:20] <mrded>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:21] <rkvirani> marcusdavidus: nope doenst work
[11:22] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: Well...  It seemed to do something, but not what I was hoping for.  Ubuntu is still dropping me into terminal when it boots.
[11:22] <marcusdavidus> rkvirani: i | marcusdavidus: nope doenst work                                                  │ acantha
[11:22] <marcusdavidus> srry
[11:23] <riwa> How do I search with apt?
[11:23] <rkvirani> marcusdavidus: so its just broken?
[11:23] <marcusdavidus> riwa sudo aptitude search package
[11:23] <rkvirani> this is a clean 810 amd64 install
[11:23] <riwa> marcusdavidus: Thanks
[11:23] <marcusdavidus> rkvirani: nope u dont broke anything is standart debian apache instalation
[11:23] <marcusdavidus>  and it must work
[11:24] <rkvirani> marcusdavidus: I hate packages
[11:24] <marcusdavidus>  make   sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[11:24] <JosefAssad> here's a fun question: I'm looking for suggestions for open source infrastructure (no desktop apps) which can be deployed as non-intrusive pilots for a large public institution (meaning, they don't replace or intrude upon any of the existing Microsoft systems). Suggestions?
[11:24] <rkvirani> stupid distro binaries never work...
[11:24] <Slart> BlackAeronaut1: hmm.. I have to go to work in a couple of minutes.. but you can take a look at the errorlog from X.. less /var/log/X11/xorg.0.log .. check for lines starting with "EE"
[11:24] <funkyHat> marcusdavidus: have you got your ALSA config set up correctly?
[11:24] <funkyHat> marcusdavidus: either in /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc
[11:24] <BlackAeronaut1> Slart: Okay then.
[11:25] <cvctor> @JosefAssad: how about Cygwin?
[11:25] <marcusdavidus> funky yes i have . pulse works with mpd  after i install  pulseaudio config tool  but now no sound in flahs in firefox
[11:25] <marcusdavidus>  i think problem is becouse mpd load before pusleaudio i try  setup mpd  not as system service
[11:26] <marcusdavidus> rkvirani: restart apache
[11:26] <JosefAssad> cvctor: cygwin is nifty, but the institution has no exposure to FLOSS or UNIX. I'm leaning towards online systems like Alfresco for example
[11:26] <marcusdavidus> rkvirani:  test mysql > mysqladmin ping
[11:27] <rkvirani> marcusdavidus: restarted apache
[11:27] <rkvirani> mysql works cause I Created a uname db and grant
[11:27] <marcusdavidus> restart mysql also
[11:27] <cvctor> JosefAssad: I'm googling for Alfresco right now
[11:27] <DUDAS> hi
[11:27] <cvctor> Ah, yes, web-based foo
[11:28] <marcusdavidus> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[11:29] <rkvirani> WIERD
[11:29] <rkvirani> even lampp asks me to download the flie
[11:29] <rkvirani> wtf
[11:29] <marcusdavidus> funkyHat:  ok i got mpd working  it need to be setup as single user deamon and start after pulseaudio starts
[11:29] <rkvirani> maybe it is the browser
[11:29] <rkvirani> but ... it works for other things
[11:30] <marcusdavidus> rkvirani:  hmm cannot help u more i only setup few apache servers and always standart works
[11:30] <riwa> Just noticed that my "/" is filled up. 6 GB! Anyway, I noticed it during a package installation. My question is, can I remove some space and then upgrade the system? The system downloaded and installed fine but I got: /usr/bin/mandb: can't write to /var/cache/man/15844: No space left on device
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> rkvirani: maybe the folks in #apache can help
[11:30] <rkvirani> marcusdavidus: as ok
[11:30] <rkvirani> this is really annoying I do this for work
[11:30] <gladiator> hi. i have a usb hard drive. i plugged it in and now i am trying to unmount it.. but it says its in use... i also tried sudo umount /media/drive but still the same
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> riwa: sudo apt-get clean
[11:30] <marcusdavidus> riwa:  check /var/log
[11:30] <rkvirani> thats why Im so pissed its so simple
[11:31] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  why u guys say apt not aptitude ?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: its the same when it comes to installing stuff
[11:31] <marcusdavidus> NO
[11:31] <riwa> ActionParsnip1: JESUS!! 2 GB right there. Why on earth doesn't it clean that automaticly?
[11:31] <marcusdavidus>  apttitude remmeber dependecies
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> riwa: sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:32] <marcusdavidus>  never mix apt with aptitude if u dont wanna hurt your box
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: apt-get will install any dependancies of the package
[11:32] <riwa> marcusdavidus: What should I check for? It just seemed like my manpages couldn't update
[11:32] <CPUdestroyer> personal preference
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: the official guides for ubuntu do it freely
[11:32] <bdubnc> anyone have any luck using kbarcode with a Zebra TLP 2844 printer.  In linux it only does ascii text and kbarcode for some reason does not pint.
[11:32] <WeazelON> hey guys, i'd like to make an echo alias for a command with --> " <-- in it, thing is   i need to enter a variable into the alias and finish it with --> " <--  for example    alias sp=asterisk -rx "sip show peer<variable>"    and i want to write only sc <variable>    problem is the --> " <-- at the end makes me write <variable>"
[11:32] <marcusdavidus> yes but  aptitude resolve them better anyway
[11:33] <WeazelON> help
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: its fine to mix as long as you do not run them at the same time as only one package app can access the packages at the same time
[11:33] <riwa> marcusdavidus: You can use aptitude for searching and apt-get for installing, no?
[11:33] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  ok if UBUNTU guide say it is ok but debian guide say diferent
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: how do you get "better" the dependancy list is part of the deb file which is read byboth apt-get and aptitude
[11:33] <asfjio> hello, in the past i've started my vitrualbox with this command "VirtualBox-startvm vm_name". the command was executed and leave me again to the prompt. now when i execute the same command it stays like waiting and don't leve me to execute another commands from the rpompt. what is the reason for that?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: ubuntu != debian
[11:34] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  ok i will not argue
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: aptitude has a little more functionality, like deborphan and apt-file all rolled into one
[11:34] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1: OK i will not argue is pointless
[11:34] <marcusdavidus>  ur win fin
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> true
[11:34] <WeazelON> anyone ?
[11:34] <marcusdavidus> WeazelON: with what ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> ot bothered for win, just sharing some knowledge :)
[11:35] <WeazelON> hey guys, i'd like to make an echo alias for a command with --> " <-- in it, thing is   i need to enter a variable into the alias and finish it with --> " <--  for example    alias sp=asterisk -rx "sip show peer<variable>"    and i want to write only sc <variable>    problem is the --> " <-- at the end makes me write <variable>"
[11:35] <riwa> marcusdavidus: There are a dussin logs in /var/log/. What am I looking for?
[11:35] <Slart> WeazelON: tried using \" for the inner "
[11:35] <marcusdavidus> alias install='emerge -av'
[11:36] <marcusdavidus>  u must use '
[11:36] <marcusdavidus> riwa propably u got around 1 gb of logs there
[11:36] <marcusdavidus>  if u dont clean it
[11:36] <WeazelON> so there is no way to make me write sc 123 instead of sc 123" ?
[11:36] <marcusdavidus> riwa:  just check size of this folder
[11:36] <aflag> hello, my amarok requires some codecs in order to play mp3, I don't have root access to this computer, how do I install those codecs?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: is there a command to clean logs down?
[11:37] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1: ` logrotate?
[11:37] <riwa> marcusdavidus: Oh. So it was the logs?? Well I won't know since I `clean`'ed it.
[11:37] <stefan_can> aflag, I don't think you can without root account
[11:37] <marcusdavidus> riwa:  u clean apt cashe not logs just check size of /var/log folder
[11:37] <riwa> marcusdavidus: But how can I re-write the manpages that weren't written
[11:37] <marcusdavidus> riwa woot?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> mines about 14Mo
[11:38] <marcusdavidus> what manpages lol
[11:38] <riwa> marcusdavidus: Nah. 5.4 mb
[11:38] <aflag> stefan_can: really? I don't see a reason not to. After all, amarok just has to read the codecs from some directory.
[11:39] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  i setup apache + mysql to my friend and setup logrotate but later he fu up somethign with mysql logrotate script and after a year he got 65 gb of data
[11:39] <marcusdavidus>  in /var/log/mysql
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: nice
[11:39] <riwa> marcusdavidus:  /usr/bin/mandb: can't write to /var/cache/man/15844: No space left on device
[11:39] <synisthetic> :(
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: thats bigger than most of my hraddrives
[11:39] <synisthetic> installing uvc drivers didn't help
[11:39] <marcusdavidus> ActionParsnip1:  he got dedicated server :P
[11:39] <riwa> marcusdavidus: And about 30 others
[11:40] <marcusdavidus> riwa:  u need to make some space ^^
[11:40] <marcusdavidus>  now propably u will have problems with unisntall packages if u have no space on /
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: oh my file server has 1Tb so i dont need masses of space in my other machines
[11:40] <riwa> marcusdavidus: Now I do have space. My question is how do I write them?
[11:40] <stefan_can> aflag, I stand corrected, yes you can just use the add/remove to add the necessary codecs
[11:41] <phiberoptik> hi
[11:41] <marcusdavidus> riwa:  just reinstall package  that make this man page
[11:41] <phiberoptik> ubuntu fr?
[11:41] <DJones> !fr > phiberoptik
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> phiberoptik: /j #ubuntu-fr
[11:41] <riwa> marcusdavidus: The strange thing was that all packages were installed, but no manpages. I don't know if it's because my /usr/local is on a seperate partition
[11:41] <wildfish> hello
[11:41] <aflag> stefan_can: where did you find that? I've looked all over in the amarok interface and I couldn't find it
[11:42] <marcusdavidus>  propably anyway just reinstall package that u need man from
[11:42] <wildfish> i have a microsoft lifecam, is it possible to get this to work under ubuntu and also puredata???
[11:42] <marcusdavidus> wildfish:  google.com
[11:42] <marcusdavidus>  imo
[11:43] <TgWaKu> I uninstalled ubuntu to try reinstalling it because it messed up first time. and its still showing up in my os choices menu when i start my pc.
[11:43] <marcusdavidus> afk
[11:43] <stefan_can> aflag, it is in the main menu of gnome under system tools
[11:43] <hhlee> wildfish: u tried ubuntu with skype? u can test ur webcam compatibility directly.
[11:43] <hhlee> wildfish: what is puredata?
[11:44] <riwa> marcusdavidus: Well I have no idea what file: --> `/var/cache/man/15844` is.
[11:44] <riwa> s/is/refers to
[11:45] <divXjunk> hello ppl, i installed hardy 'inside' windows from the live cd. now i wanted to convert to a 'real' install. i booted winXP and with 'partitonmagic8' i created a swap and a ext3 partition. my hd looks like this now: 1ntfs, 2swap, 3ext3, 4ntfs(data). i used "LVMP" to put the instalation onto the new partition, no errors. grub installed fine and works. BUT when i try to boot in to the 'real' install: 'Error 17, cannot mount disk' . i followed this guide: htt
[11:45] <divXjunk> p://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[11:45] <wildfish> gone to google
[11:45] <KaptenRodSkagg> anyone know how to sync my nokia n95 with thunderbird? calender&contacts...   prefer a local apps instlled so google isnt a option
[11:45] <riwa> couldn't I force another install which would also force all dependency downloads and configurations?
[11:45] <marcusdavidus> riwa:  u need this man ? u will read it?
[11:46] <Bupuntu> hi all
[11:46] <riwa> marcusdavidus: I don't know. But if I need it one day I'll regret I didn't fix it
[11:46] <marcusdavidus> riwa: then u reinstall package that is lack of man
[11:46] <marcusdavidus> ^^
[11:46] <Bupuntu> i have a small problem, i messed up vmware as i deleted the main folder because i paniked for lack of space (i know i know....) and now it won't uninstall, neither reinstall it :(
[11:46] <Bupuntu> how can i clean it up?
[11:47] <dsdeiz> hi, my mic working and all but then after i run the sound recorder it stopped.. any reasons why it stopped?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> divXjunk: i'd just backup the data you need (and setting files) and do a clean install. What you are attempting is one of the primary reasons I despise wubi
[11:47] <marcusdavidus> rm
[11:47] <riwa> marcusdavidus: And like I said there were about 30 others, maybe for the java-re which I was downloading
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> divXjunk: it gets a whole world of messy and at the end of it i bet you get so frustrated you do a clean install
[11:47] <marcusdavidus> riwa:  just rerun update or whatever uw as doing :P
[11:48] <marcusdavidus> and btw ppl  im not ubuntu guru i just install it ^^
[11:48] <corey> How do I use the WOL feature of my computer?
[11:48] <riwa> marcusdavidus: apt-get.. It says I got the packages... How do I force it? -F?
[11:48] <gladiator> hi. i have a usb hard drive. i plugged it in and now i am trying to unmount it.. but it says its in use... i also tried sudo umount /media/drive but still the same.. how can i fix this? or maybe find out what processes still have a handle on the device
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> divXjunk: its going to involve making ISOs of your partitions on some media then using dd to copy the data from iso to partition in a lve cd environment
[11:48] <divXjunk> ActionParsnip1: I agree, in the guide is 'too good to be true' I feared that i needed a fresh installl. well thanx anyway!!
[11:49] <marcusdavidus> riwa: ye
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> divXjunk: it can be done, just depends ho complex your setup is right now. If its a simple desktop then just clean install, if there are servers with custom setups and custom compiled kernels to make hardware work it may be worth it
[11:50] <riwa> marcusdavidus: doesn't work. I guess I have to forget them... Bummer!
[11:50] <divXjunk> its complex, lots of programs added. compiled eggdrop in my home folder, have dual monitor setup....... multiple soundcards.....
[11:51] <carpii> is there some sort of gui wrapper for smartctl ?
[11:51] <divXjunk> and thats just the start of it.........
[11:51] <corey> How do I use the WOL feature of my computer?
[11:51] <dsdeiz> how do i activate the capture in alsamixer?
[11:51] <marcusdavidus> riwa your apt is broken ? u cannto install package or what ?
[11:51] <marcusdavidus>  show console output
[11:51] <dsdeiz> cause in gnome-volume-control i was able to find it
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> !wakeonlan
[11:52] <corey> !wol
[11:52] <funkyHat> corey: etherwake
[11:52] <marcusdavidus> !gentoo
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> corey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588
[11:52] <funkyHat> corey: or wakeonlan
[11:53] <corey> funkyhat: thanks I will look that up now. Can Windows use that?
[11:53] <marcusdavidus> lol  ppl who setup this infobot should read what !ubuntu say on #gentoo
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: seems ok
[11:53] <funkyHat> corey: I don't know, you'd have to look at the project webpages for those programs and see if there is a windows version
[11:54] <xavierg2003> hello everyone
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> marcusdavidus: wassup with it?
[11:55] <xavierg2003> Anyone know the program Air mon?
[11:56] <hhlee> lol marcusdavidus, I'll go there have a look, is it freenode server?
[11:57] <xavierg2003> Am i not being heard?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> xavierg2003: do you want all 1390 of ius to say no?
[11:57] <xavierg2003> Yes indeed i do.
[11:57] <marcusdavidus> is ircnet chaannel
[11:57] <Tmi> no
[11:57] <xavierg2003> at least i would get a response.
[11:58] <hhlee> i tried freenode, it is not responding
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> then i will represent all of use here, a silence means no
[11:58] <marcusdavidus>  is  sumthing like ubuntu is african word meaning im **** to use debian or somethign like that dont remmebr got ban there ^^
[11:58] <bazhang> !ot
[11:58] <bazhang> take chat elsewhere please
[11:58] <xavierg2003> hmm...
[11:58] <hhlee> in Malay buntu/bantu = helping
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> xavierg2003: whats it do maybe we can suggest an alternative
[11:59] <xavierg2003> it monitors your wifi network, and turns your wifi card into passive mood.
[11:59] <raven> hi. i have a design pad (http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Trust-TB-7300-Wide-Design-Tablet) it seems that i have to configure the pen because it does not work perfectly. can someone give me a hint, how to configure itt?
[12:00] <limboto> hi all
[12:00] <limboto> help me
[12:00] <DJones> !ask | limboto
[12:00] <marcusdavidus> libme too
[12:00] <marcusdavidus> limboto help me too
[12:01] <TgWaKu> I uninstalled ubuntu to try reinstalling it because it messed up first time. and its still showing up in my os choices menu when i start my pc. how do i remove that.
[12:01] <limboto> why i cant view you you tube with ubuntu 8.10
[12:01] <hhlee> marcusdavidus: there is no response there for me
[12:01] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  why for u want remove grub?
[12:01] <limboto> i installed ini lenovo y410
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: you will have /boot on another partition then
[12:02] <marcusdavidus> limboto:  install flash-player
[12:02] <TgWaKu> k, but why is it showing ubuntu after i have uninstalled it
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: depends how you "uninstalled" it
[12:02] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  but u cannot boot into it
[12:02] <Nasra> any idea why I am experiencing freezes on Ubuntu 8:10?
[12:02] <limboto> marcusdavidus : already installed
[12:02] <TgWaKu> rgr when i try and select ubuntu from os choices menu i get hal.dll missing or something
[12:03] <marcusdavidus> libmoto  find -flashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: if you wipe all the ubuntu partitions, it will  erase the data completely
[12:03] <marcusdavidus> i mean copy
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: sounds like you are using NTLDR to boot
[12:03] <raven> hi. i have a design pad (http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Trust-TB-7300-Wide-Design-Tablet) it seems that i have to configure the pen because it does not work perfectly. can someone give me a hint, how to configure itt?
[12:03] <limboto> ok, i will try
[12:03] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  hmm hal dll ?
[12:03] <marcusdavidus>  wtf
[12:03] <TgWaKu> yeah right
[12:03] <TgWaKu> when i select ubuntu
[12:03] <TgWaKu> it says that
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: thats because there is no grub to boot as you removed it
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: did you install ubuntu with wubi?
[12:04] <TgWaKu> i used a live cd
[12:04] <scunizi> raven: what program are you trying to use it with?
[12:04] <TgWaKu> the hdd i installed ubuntu to crashed
[12:04] <TgWaKu> so i took it out
[12:05] <marcusdavidus> damn much to much ppl write aboute 10 diferent topics and im lost
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: then you should have grub installed and the config will be reading from someplace else
[12:05] <scunizi> !who | marcusdavidus
[12:05] <marcusdavidus> scunizi:  ya rly ?
[12:05] <itai_michaelson> anyone has any experience with Thinkpads? can i install Ubuntu and then set the rescue & recovery to restore an ubuntu system rather than XP?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> TgWaKu: you need to fix the mbr of windows so it boots cleanly, then you can wipe the ubuntu drive and reinstall
[12:05] <scunizi> marcusdavidus: yea really..:?
[12:06] <marcusdavidus> scunizi: ^^
[12:06] <TgWaKu> i've use fixboot and fixmbr commands
[12:06] <TgWaKu> and it still shows ubuntu in the os choices
[12:06] <limboto> marcusdavidus: i finded  the flashplayer.so to in ~.mozilla/plugins
[12:06] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  imho this is windows irc problem  becosue this is not linux software
[12:06] <raven> scunizi i try to use it in general... the pen works a bit but e.g. when i tap on it the cursos stands stil until i shortly lift it up a few centimeters....
[12:07] <marcusdavidus> limboto:  copy or link it to mozilla firefox yorprofile pliguins
[12:07] <TgWaKu> i tryed doing the ubuntu install while in windows and it still has ubuntu in my add/remove programs list. but cannot remove it as it cant find the location
[12:08] <marcusdavidus> limboto:  or uninstall flashplayer-nonfree and install adobe-flashplayer from repo
[12:08] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, using wubi?
[12:08] <TgWaKu> i dont know what wubi is
[12:09] <limboto> ok, i will try one-by-one :)
[12:09] <marcusdavidus> just edit c:/boot.ini and remove what u dont want there
[12:09] <scunizi> raven: if you read the wacom threads on ubuntuforums.org you'll see that sometimes the pen is in "mouse" mode and not "pen" mode.  Most remedy's for pads come with some type of change in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  Most programs (ie Inkscape, Gimp etc) also have their own internal setup for the tablet.
[12:09] <marcusdavidus> limboto:
[12:09] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, you installed ubuntu using a CD?
[12:09] <limboto> marcusdavidus: yes sir
[12:10] <TgWaKu> yes
[12:10] <marcusdavidus> limboto:  no i mean TgWaKu srry
[12:10] <remoteCTRL2> if i open the network connection editor i have a tab for vpn but i cannot add/edit/anything there, why is that?
[12:10] <marcusdavidus>  im damned confused
[12:10] <limboto> np, u wc
[12:10] <raven> scunizi ok thanks for the hint - i'll try some changes
[12:10] <TgWaKu> limboto: there is no boot.ini in on my E drive
[12:11] <marcusdavidus> is hiden file
[12:11] <marcusdavidus>  just  make in explorer show hidden files
[12:11] <scunizi> raven: good luck.. you might also look at www.google.com/linux and search for your tablet name/model + ubuntu and you might come up with some references.
[12:11] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, all windows have boot.ini its a hidden file in the root of the drive
[12:11] <TgWaKu> hidden files and folders is set to show hidden files and folders
[12:11] <Fizix> Darn, it looks like I just missed some information about Tablet PCs, no? That's exactly why I came on here, haha.
[12:12] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, show sytem files or something
[12:12]  * scunizi wonders why we're talking windows tech
[12:13] <Huufarted> scunizi, probably getting information to push to Linux's fstab or something.
[12:13] <scunizi> Fizix: naw.. just talking graphics tablets.
[12:13] <TgWaKu> ok got it
[12:13] <TgWaKu> thanks itai
[12:13] <azlon> is there a way to edit my Google Calendar from Evolution? I am able to view it, but not modify it.
[12:13] <TgWaKu> got boot.ini
[12:13] <TgWaKu> has the line
[12:13] <TgWaKu> c:\wubildr.mbr="Ubuntu"
[12:13] <scunizi> Huufarted: hard to imaging why looking at boot.ini would help fstab
[12:13] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  so delete it
[12:13] <TgWaKu> kk
[12:14] <Huufarted> scunizi, I'd imagine it's up to them to determine if it's important in the scheme of things.
[12:14] <scunizi> azlon: no.. it will work with sunbird however.
[12:14] <Fizix> Yea Vista gave me a System Event Notification Service error and after fruitless attempts to remedy the situation (killing other services related to it, restore points..) and caroozing forums, the apparent fix is nothing less than a format...
[12:14] <azlon> scunizi: thanks
[12:14] <Fizix> ...after that, I decided to search for some Tablet support for Linux but so far haven't came up with anything yet.
[12:14] <Huufarted> Fizix, so you're just trying to find help with Windows?
[12:14] <Huufarted> ah, nvm
[12:14] <scunizi> Huufarted: ahh.. looks like there talking wubi installs..
[12:14] <Fizix> No no, it was just a prelude to... yea you got it
[12:14] <Huufarted> Fizix, what do you have?
[12:15] <TgWaKu> ok i think this is gonna work, im going to reboot and try install ubuntu again
[12:15] <Huufarted> scunizi, that makes sense.
[12:15] <ziroday> Fizix: is it a tablet laptop or a graphics tablet?
[12:15]  * marcusdavidus MPD Elvenpath By Nightwish
[12:15] <TgWaKu> thanks for all your help guys (and girls?)
[12:15] <Fizix> Tablet Laptop, a Gateway
[12:15] <Huufarted> Fizix, model?
[12:15] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, how are you installing ubuntu?
[12:15] <ziroday> Fizix: hmm not so sure about those sorry
[12:15] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  why u dont use cd ?
[12:15] <TgWaKu> i am
[12:15] <azlon> scunizi: any way to merge Thunderbird and Sun Bird?
[12:15] <TgWaKu> im installing off the live cd
[12:15] <marcusdavidus> if u need install from windows ( no cdrom drive) use unebtooin imho
[12:15] <Huufarted> azlon, 2 different products.
[12:15] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, according to the boot.ini you used wubi
[12:16] <ziroday> azlon: there is the lightning extension for thunderbird which is sunbird inside thunderbird
[12:16] <Fizix> That's the ONLY reason why I have this set to dual-boot w/ Vista is because I use it for school as a REAL notepad, haha. It's a C-140X
[12:16] <rtew442> TgWaKu: why don't you *boot* from the cd and use the real installer instead of wubi?
[12:16] <scunizi> azlon: yep.. it's called lightening.. and I think there's a add in for thunderbird to give you the "lightening"
[12:16] <TgWaKu> because the cd was freezing
[12:16] <TgWaKu> so i tryed the wubi
[12:16] <Huufarted> Fizix, have you tried running a Live CD on it?
[12:16] <TgWaKu> it would get to six bars from the end and just freeze
[12:16] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, what are your specs?
[12:17] <rtew442> TgWaKu: but wubi won't get you a real install
[12:17] <rtew442> TgWaKu: it juse uses a file on the ntfs partition, which is slow
[12:17] <TgWaKu> amd 4000+, 7800gt, 1gb ram
[12:17] <ziroday> Fizix: if I were you I would try run a jaunty livecd on the laptop and see if that lets you use the tablet
[12:17] <TgWaKu> yeah i told me that on the wubi
[12:17] <Akkernight> why do I get "Unable to create new X file" error message, when I try to save my x configuration ?
[12:17] <TgWaKu> but i couldnt get the cd to work so...
[12:17] <ziroday> Akkernight: using?
[12:17] <remoteCTRL2> can anyone add a vpn in  network connection editor? everything is greyed out here!
[12:17] <scunizi> Akkernight: are you in Nvidia Settings?
[12:17] <arvind_khadri> Akkernight, use sudo before it
[12:18] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, ok, so probably the disc image was corrupted or a bad burn, either download a new CD or use unetbooting (similar to wubi but gives you a real install)
[12:18] <Fizix> Huufarted & ziroday: I have not tried it. I have Ubuntu installed and it's working just peachy, I'm just looking for the "drivers" (if there is another Linux term for it, I apologize as I do not know it) for my tablet interface. It works just fine as a regular laptop now.
[12:18] <Akkernight> Yes I'm in Nvidia settings, how do I start it using sudo?
[12:18] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  use UNETBOOTIN
[12:18] <Huufarted> Fizix, drivers is still the appropriate term.
[12:18] <scunizi> Akkernight: open terminal and type sudo nvidia-settings
[12:18] <Huufarted> Fizix, stand by.
[12:18] <TgWaKu> unetbooting? brb google
[12:18] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, make sure you back up all important files on your windows partition before you do anything!
[12:18] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[12:19] <TgWaKu> ah cool live usb ubuntu
[12:19] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  it alow u to make bootable cdimage on hdd so u cann boot to live cd and normall install ubuntu
[12:19] <scunizi> Fizix: most tablets use a wacom setup.. have you tried to google your model number and "ubuntu" at the end of the search string?  you can't be the only one that's tried this.
[12:19] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  or intall live cd on usb if u want
[12:19] <TgWaKu> cool
[12:20] <TgWaKu> ok i'll try that
[12:20] <TgWaKu> thanks
[12:20] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  but this only make u able to boot LIVE CD it do not install it
[12:20] <Huufarted> Fizix, confirmed.  Yours does use a Wacom
[12:20] <TgWaKu> oh, so i can't do a "real install" from it?
[12:20] <Fizix> Scunizi: I've just been going through the Add/Remove list on Ubuntu as I'm not to savvy with the installs that normally require command-line stuff "sudo -apt get..." as I learned trying to install IBM's Linux C++ Compiler.
[12:20] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  and remmebr  if u boot from hdd after u boot in to x  unmount everything and then run install becosue instalator will dont see hdd
[12:20] <ziroday> Fizix: the thing is tablet support in intrepid is somewhat broken. Trying a jaunty livecd to see if it fixes it might be helpful
[12:20] <Fizix> Huufarted: Oh okay, thanks for the info.
[12:21] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  yes is how i install ubuntu today
[12:21] <Huufarted> Fizix, trying to find additional info for you.  Hang on.
[12:21] <BuGo_laptop> what is wrong with kwallet server?
[12:21] <marcusdavidus> TgWaKu:  u can do REAL INSTALL from live cd ^^ unetbootint boot live cd form hdd so u need boot cd form hdd/usb by unetboooin then install like form cdrom
[12:21] <BuGo_laptop> i have removed it a
[12:21] <Huufarted> Fizix:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[12:21] <itai_michaelson> TgWaKu, unetbootin is similar to wubi except it also allows you to partition the disc
[12:22] <TgWaKu> ok
[12:22] <BuGo_laptop> and i still am getting crapload of "starting kwallet server"
[12:22] <marcusdavidus> itai_michaelson:  not rly
[12:22] <dr_willis> Hmm.. cant recall ever using unetbootin to install to a hard drive.. just to my usb-thumbdrive
[12:22] <scunizi> Fizix: yea.. add/remove won't do it here.. you have to get your hands dirtly a little bit.. nice thing is editing a configuration file is easy IF you have the right info to put in it.  Just make a backup of xorg before hand with (sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup)
[12:22] <BuGo_laptop> removing kwalletserver
[12:22] <marcusdavidus> itai_michaelson:  unetbootin alow u to make bootablle most of linux distro live cds :p
[12:22] <itai_michaelson> marcusdavidus, how not?
[12:22] <marcusdavidus>  so u can install like from cdrom
[12:22] <BuGo_laptop> but it still makes my system cry
[12:23] <Huufarted> Fizix, follow that link please.  I think it's got the info you are looking for.
[12:23] <scunizi> BuGo_laptop: are you running gnome and have kde libs loading that you don't want?
[12:23] <BuGo_laptop> how can i stop something from starting this kwallet server?
[12:23] <BuGo_laptop> scunizi, indeed
[12:23] <Fizix> BRB, Google'ing as per Scunizi's suggestion, looking up "jaunty" as per ziroday, and checking the forum link from Huufarted.... thank you very, VERY much everyone. Again, BRB.
[12:23] <Huufarted> BuGo_laptop, sudo apt-get remove kwallet-server (if that's the name)
[12:23] <scunizi> BuGo_laptop: do you want to get rid of all the kde stuff?
[12:23] <BuGo_laptop> Huufarted, it is not helping
[12:23] <marcusdavidus> itai_michaelson: its simply move files from iso to hdd/usb then make grub or boot.ini  entrys to boot in to it anf then uc an install like from real cdrom
[12:23] <Huufarted> BuGo_laptop, did it remove the application?
[12:23] <itai_michaelson> marcusdavidus, ok, but i think that as far as TgWaKu is concerened the functions are similar...
[12:24] <BuGo_laptop> scunizi, i dont want to get rid of all.
[12:24] <marcusdavidus> itai_michaelson:  wubi install ubuntu on windows parition
[12:24] <BuGo_laptop> Huufarted, yes i had ant it still shows "launching kwallet server"
[12:24] <marcusdavidus> itai_michaelson:  is huge diferenc
[12:24] <marcusdavidus> diference
[12:24] <marcusdavidus> *
[12:25] <itai_michaelson> marcusdavidus i know,,,,the huge diffewrence is that it allows you to intstall ubuntu to the disc rather than to windows,,,
[12:25] <marcusdavidus> itai_michaelson: yes , and is  works under linux too
[12:26] <scunizi> BuGo_laptop: if you wanted a totally clean gnome system you could google "pure gnome" and you'd get a list of commands to "rid" yourself of kde stuff.. However, since you (like me) prefer some kde apps over gnome apps you just might be stuck with what you have.. Some of your programs might be dependant on kdewallet or other things
[12:26] <sLaeYa> I'm currently having issues with authing on my mailserver - via webmail and also external mail clients ie. outlook, here is a snippet from the log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/133003/
[12:26] <BuGo_laptop> scunizi, :/ thats a sad story. since i like some KDE apps.
[12:26] <BuGo_laptop> and konqueror asks for wallet all the time
[12:27] <itai_michaelson> marcusdavidus, i actually dont understand why would anyone use wubi if unetbooting exist ...
[12:27] <Ronald_> Does anybody know of any free programs for designing/drawing hardware infrastructure?
[12:27] <scunizi> BuGo_laptop: yes konqueror is one of the offenders for wallet.
[12:27] <scunizi> Ronald_: like a cad program?
[12:27] <BuGo_laptop> scunizi, and right now i have like 8 icons showing "Launching kwallet server"
[12:27] <yanghong> haha
[12:28] <marcusdavidus> itai_michaelson:  but u know u can do the same without using unetbooin ^^ is quitte easy to boot linux  cds from boot.ini
[12:28] <ziroday> Ronald_: blender?
[12:28] <marcusdavidus>  itai_michaelson is much harder to boot windows cd from grub
[12:28] <scunizi> BuGo_laptop: now that's weird.. have you asked in #kubuntu?
[12:28] <BuGo_laptop> not yet
[12:28] <Ronald_> scunizi, ziroday I need to do a presentation on our planned server infrastructure.  I'd like to design something like this: http://media.photobucket.com/image/server%2Binfrastructure/jpaloma/Docs/DMZ-basedMailSecuritySolutions.jpg
[12:29] <ziroday> Ronald_: perhaps Dia or semantiK?
[12:30] <ziroday> Ronald_: but really any graphics app will do
[12:30] <Ronald_> ziroday, okay I'll take a look.  Thanks!
[12:30] <rossMoHaX> how to add CA cert to gnutls trusted certs?
[12:31] <scunizi> Ronald_: there is a cross platform "Mind Mapping" software that does stuff like this.. Dia may fit your need and there's others.  the one I"m thinking of is on my other machine that I can't get to right now.. name starts with an x though.
[12:31]  * marcusdavidus afk
[12:31] <ziroday> scunizi: freemind?
[12:31] <Tmi> Does anyone know of any music player with a "play random albums" feature lika amarok has?
[12:32] <scunizi> ziroday: freemind is another Ronald_ but wasn't what I was thinking of.
[12:32] <MrCarlos> hello to everyone
[12:33] <scunizi> Ronald_: google XMind.. that's the one I was thinking of..
[12:33] <ziroday> Tmi: wouldn't that just be playing random music?
[12:33] <bayer> hi, i got the task to upgrade an old ubuntu edgy server to hardy, and as this is an old installation i would like to know what i need to consider when i want to upgrade the system?
[12:33] <user296> how do I configure a guest session on 8.10 so the changes persist between reboots
[12:33] <scunizi> !upgrade | bayer
[12:33] <itai_michaelson> bayer,  i think you are looking at a reinstall
[12:33] <Tmi> ziroday, no, the feature selects a random album, plays all tracks on it, and then selects a new random album
[12:33] <ziroday> bayer: you will need to go through feisty, then gusty and then to hardy. It may be easier to reinstall
[12:34] <ziroday> Tmi: ah, sorry misunderstood
[12:34] <Tmi> a great feature with amarok, but I'd rather have something gtk
[12:34] <lmnop90210> good morning
[12:34] <ziroday> user296: the guest session is not able to do that AFAIK. You might want to create a new user instead
[12:35] <lmnop90210> can anyone point me to some documentation for enterprise rollout of the ubunbtu client
[12:35] <scunizi> bayer: ziroday is right .. it might be less time consuming to reinstall.. however it's easy to reinstall if /home is on a seperate partition.  If this is an apache server then you'd want to backup /var/www and /etc/apache2 amoung other things.
[12:35] <Huufarted> ubuntu cliennt?
[12:35] <ziroday> lmnop90210: how big are you talking?
[12:35] <Huufarted> clienT*?
[12:35] <lmnop90210> talking 100K PCs
[12:35] <ziroday> lmnop90210: err and you're doing this yourself?
[12:36] <lmnop90210> no-
[12:36] <lmnop90210> I am a Director for a large defense contractor
[12:36] <ziroday> lmnop90210: for such a large deployment you might want to get a canonical support package
[12:36] <lmnop90210> we are working a project to put together a ROM
[12:37] <abdo222> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[12:37] <bayer> scunizi, i think its not only apache running there, but i think i'll simply reinstall the system...
[12:37] <ziroday> lmnop90210: I doubt this channel can help much with such large deployments. You _might_ get some better results in #ubuntu-server
[12:37] <lmnop90210> ziroday- thanks
[12:37] <ziroday> lmnop90210: but I would recommend you talk to canonical
[12:38] <Huufarted> I just spent the past 5 minutes trying to figure out what 'lmnop' stood for...   *sigh* it's early.
[12:38] <lmnop90210> roger that
[12:38] <magnetron> lmnop90210→ here is a list of your options: http://ubuntu.com/support
[12:38] <lmnop90210> lol
[12:38] <lmnop90210> have a great day folks
[12:38] <abdo222> Hello
[12:38] <s3r3n1t7> Hey folks. Is there a way to have 2 screens, 2 keyboards and 2 mouses connected to a single computer, and simulate having 2 seperate desktops?
[12:38] <abdo222> Is there any arabic rooms ???
[12:38] <scunizi> bayer: if it's non critical.. /var/www will hold the current web page(s) that are being served.. if php is installed or mysql that's another matter.
[12:39] <ziroday> !arabic | abdo222
[12:39] <Huufarted> s3r3n1t7, 2 keyboards, 2 mice?  No.
[12:39] <scunizi> s3r3n1t7: yes.. I've seen several writeup about doing that.. mostly it's in conjunction with an educational institution..
[12:39] <Huufarted> scunizi, multiple keyboards on the same PC?
[12:40] <s3r3n1t7> Huufarted, just stick in 2 usb keyboards, that isnt the prob
[12:40] <scunizi> s3r3n1t7: you can actually have several monitors, keyboards, mice etc..
[12:40] <bayer> scunizi, yes, i think i can handle that - thanks!
[12:40] <marcusdavidus> dan terrorists
[12:40] <scunizi> s3r3n1t7: all for different users.
[12:40] <marcusdavidus> damn*
[12:40] <Huufarted> s3r3n1t7, if you stick in 2 USB keyboards, they both get used. AFAIK.  Listen to scunizi, he's apparently seen it in the wild.
[12:40] <scunizi> bayer: np
[12:41] <Huufarted> interesting setup, I'll say.  I'd like to know the name of it.
[12:41] <s3r3n1t7> scunizi, that's kind of what i'm looking for yeah. But the main problem that i haven't found a way to get the mouse "jailed"  to a desktop. But i think the thing you suggested about the educational use is what i'm looking for. Do you have any links to refer?
[12:41] <Fizix-BRB> Looks like I may need to restat; be back soon
[12:41] <Huufarted> ok, Fizix
[12:42] <artemis> hello can any1 tell me what do i use dmesg|grep bttv for ?
[12:42] <scunizi> s3r3n1t7: so far I've only found one link but haven't really looked.. http://sourceforge.net/projects/slim
[12:42] <Huufarted> artemis, if you type dmesg, it shows you the hardware boot process during your last boot up
[12:42] <Boohbah> artemis: to find the string 'bttv' in your kernel boot log.
[12:42] <ziroday> artemis: you search dmesg for the bttv string?
[12:42] <Huufarted> artemis, the | grep part means that it's only going to display any lines that have bttv in it
[12:43] <artemis> so if i have this msg : [   12.692465] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
[12:43] <artemis> does it mean that card is found ?
[12:43] <ik> 999
[12:43] <s3r3n1t7> scunizi, i've done some searching, but i'm not really epic with formulating a good search string for it, google doesn't seem to like me today. Let me see what that turns up
[12:43] <loveshark> will the settings be saved? if i'm running from a 2gig usb?
[12:43] <ik> AHAHAHAHA
[12:43] <ik> I'm gonna get banned for that.
[12:44] <ziroday> ik: do you have something we can help you with?
[12:44] <ik> ziroday: no, did you see all those weechat users quit?
[12:44] <artemis> so if i have this msg : [   12.692465] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0). does it mean that card is found?
[12:44] <sipior> artemis: looks like it
[12:44] <Huufarted> Any ops that can take care of ik?
[12:45] <lord-zk> I need to active spell check in pidgin for en
[12:45] <ik> Huufarted: nah, I'll leave of my own accord
[12:45] <ziroday> !ops | ik dcc exploit
[12:45] <Paddy_EIRE> artemis, does it not say installed underneath that?
[12:45] <ik> it wasn't a DCC exploit, you ignorant.
[12:45] <ik> See DSA 1744
[12:45] <MrCarlos> whats the difference between a live cd and live dvd?
[12:45] <Huufarted> ik, we don't want to hear it.
[12:45] <artemis> Paddy_EIRE: it says nothking like that
[12:45] <artemis> i can pase you on private what is says
[12:45] <Paddy_EIRE> artemis, this is ndiswrapper yes?
[12:45] <scunizi> !paste | artemis
[12:46] <ziroday> ik: just a weechat vulnerability then.
[12:46] <Paddy_EIRE> artemis, use pastebin and send me the link.
[12:46] <Huufarted> Myrtti, thank you.  :)
[12:46] <marcusdavidus> pff weechat sigfault
[12:46] <error404notfound> during the install of ubuntu-server-8.10, I press F4, what's the difference between a minmal install and a minimal virtual machine, which one is jeos?
[12:47] <artemis> Paddy_EIRE, : no it is not ndiwraper, i want to install my tv card
[12:47] <ganesh1> how to put some background for grub?
[12:47] <MrCarlos> whats the difference between a live cd and live dvd?
[12:47] <rtew442> marcusdavidus: yeah, ik just got banned for using the exploit
[12:47] <Paddy_EIRE> artemis, ah I see..
[12:47] <ziroday> MrCarlos: livedvd has more stuff on it
[12:48] <Extend> i added some themes as a directories in /usr/share/themes/ but i can't see them when i open System/appearance
[12:48] <pirx_> hey! whats the default smtp-server in ubuntu? i can see that port 25 is open in my computer, but cant find which program it is
[12:48] <s3r3n1t7> scunizi, actually although the link is a tad bit old, the naming of what i need is well  formulated in there. Simultaneous local independent multi-user seems to be what i need.
[12:48] <Extend> what can i do to reload it or solve this problem
[12:48] <MrCarlos> ziroday: useful stuff or neccessary?
[12:48] <Huufarted> pirx_  check /etc/services file
[12:48] <marcusdavidus> ganesh1: sudo aptitude install startup-manager
[12:48] <Huufarted> pirx_  :  cat /etc/services | grep 25
[12:48] <ziroday> MrCarlos: well the livecd runs fine currently. Go with the livecd unless you know you need something on the livedvd
[12:49] <sipior> pirx_: postfix is the default smtp server
[12:49] <scunizi> s3r3n1t7: that or dirivitives of it.. I'd also search for linux in education
[12:49] <marcusdavidus> ganesh1: u can change grub screen here and also ubuntu splash
[12:49] <MrCarlos> ziroday: thanks sir
[12:50] <sipior> pirx_: as a general solution, try "sudo netstat -antup | grep <portnumber>"
[12:50] <s3r3n1t7> scunizi, Aye, i'm lookin into that.
[12:50] <oCean_> pirx_: "sudo netstat -anp |grep 25"
[12:51] <Huufarted> s3r3n1t7, this MIGHT be the wrong terminology, but look for 'Ubuntu terminal server"
[12:51] <DUDAS> hi
[12:51] <DUDAS> i need some help
[12:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask
[12:51] <Huufarted> !help | dudas
[12:51] <ganesh1>  marcusdavidus: it says no package found..is ther any spelling mistake?
[12:52] <Huufarted> ok, ignore that ubottu I sent.
[12:52] <pirx_> sipior: thanks! but it seems to be exim4 here:)
[12:52] <Huufarted> DUDAS, you need to tell us what you need help with
[12:52] <sipior> pirx_: yeah, could be as well :-)
[12:52] <DUDAS> ok, how can i connect to 2 lans at the same time with 2 diferent lan adapters?
[12:53] <Huufarted> DUDAS, just assign them different IPs.  By default, eth0 and eth1 are the adapter names
[12:53] <s3r3n1t7> !info xserver-xypher
[12:53] <Huufarted> s3r3n1t7, check this link:  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/technologies/ltsp
[12:55] <s3r3n1t7> Huufarted, almost. I dont have a server that i can use as LTSP server. I'm looking for a way to use 2 mouse 2 keyboard and 2 screens as 2 seperate desktops on a single PC.
[12:55] <DUDAS> before thet i need wake up the 2 adaptors ¿how can i do that?
[12:55] <Huufarted> s3r3n1t7, understood.
[12:55] <Huufarted> DUDAS, what do you mean 'wake them up'?
[12:56] <s3r3n1t7> Huufarted, scunizi, i just noticed the package xserver-xypher. Apparently it says it doesn't exist in intrepid, but on my laptop it does show. It might be what i'm lookin for
[12:56] <natsukashi> When I try to boot my Windows through grub the computer just restarts itself, any help? :/
[12:56] <s3r3n1t7> Huufarted, probably bring em up
[12:56] <carpii> s3r3n1t7, i really dont see how that is going to work. It might be an idea to get a real cheap desktop like a dumb terminal kinda thing, and hook that up to the main machine as an x server
[12:56] <Boohbah> DUDAS: ensure that the proper kernel modules are loaded.
[12:56] <Huufarted> ah...  bring them up.
[12:56] <DUDAS> the opposite to shutdown. (sorry i have a low english level)
[12:57] <Paddy_EIRE> DUDAS, what is your native language
[12:57] <DUDAS> botht eth works fine,  but not at the same time
[12:57] <limboto> marcusdavidus: i still cant view youtube
[12:57] <DUDAS> sphanish
[12:57] <DUDAS> spanish
[12:58] <s3r3n1t7> carpii, http://open-sense.com/faq.html this is what i'm looking for. I know it can be done, i've seen it in action somewhere else. Now i'm just looking for a way to do it myself.
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !es | DUDAS
[12:58] <justin_> can someone help me, i opened sourmath.com and i need to close it
[12:58] <carpii> ok s3r3n1t7, looks interesting :)
[12:58] <justin_> its really dumb
[12:59] <DUDAS> i tryed bu i couldn't finf the replys
[12:59] <s3r3n1t7> carpii, oh to clarify, groovix doesn't seem to be around for 8.10 nor 8.04 (http://wiki.groovix.org/index.php?title=GroovixSoftwareInstaller)
[12:59] <limboto> hi all...anybody help me about view youtube in ubuntu 8.10?
[12:59] <vigo> justin: Use force quit?
[13:01] <gabriel_> Hi everyone
[13:01] <vigo> limboto: I cannot view that stuff either. I may try the SWF or something else
[13:02] <quibbler> limboto: have you installed flash?
[13:02] <scunizi> limboto: vigo install flash non-free.. it's in the repos
[13:02] <limboto> vigo: yes already installed
[13:02] <gabriel_> I have a Problem with Ubuntu: the problem happened after i had to reinstall windows xp, after that I cant boot to ubuntu 8.10, it says: Error 17: cant mount partition
[13:02] <scunizi> !grub | gabriel_
[13:02] <vigo> limboto: Try Gnash
[13:02] <Huufarted> limboto:  sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[13:02] <artemis> what should i get when i'm using sudo modprobe videodev??
[13:02] <Huufarted> limboto:  then restart ALL firefox sessions
[13:03] <sipior> DUDAS: probably an issue with default routing when both interfaces are active. could you pastebin your routing table (get that through "sudo /sbin/route -n") and the output of /sbin/ifconfig for both interfaces?
[13:03] <DUDAS> no, no
[13:03] <gabriel_> I tried with Super Grub Disk and it didnt work
[13:03] <sipior> !paste > DUDAS
[13:03] <scunizi> vigo: limboto if you have more than one flash player installed at one time you're looking for conflict.
[13:03] <sipior> DUDAS: no?
[13:03] <DUDAS> i can get both interfaces actives
[13:04] <sipior> DUDAS: right, and it would be useful to see what the routing table looks like when you've got both running.
[13:04] <artemis> what should i get when i'm using sudo modprobe videodev??
[13:04] <vigo> scunzi: Yes, that is what I am working on now, figuring out the repos that need to be rid of and which to keep.
[13:04] <DUDAS> ifeth0      Link encap:Ethernet  direcciónHW 00:0d:60:c9:11:1d
[13:04] <DUDAS>           ARRIBA DIFUSIÓN CORRIENDO MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Métrica:1
[13:04] <DUDAS>           RX packets:131 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:04] <DUDAS>           TX packets:233 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[13:04] <DUDAS>           colisiones:0 txqueuelen:1000
[13:04] <DUDAS>           RX bytes:7860 (7.6 KB)  TX bytes:21746 (21.2 KB)
[13:04] <FloodBot1> DUDAS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <Paddy_EIRE> gah
[13:04] <azlon> is there a mozilla distobution list that I can add to my sources.list to get the newest Mozilla updates?
[13:04] <Paddy_EIRE> dont ban him
[13:04] <XxGoldxX> question: unable to get sound while online
[13:04] <MyTh88> hi, i installed ubuntu 8.04 LTS....but many software isn's available in latest versions...should i update to 8.10?
[13:04] <limboto> in my synaptic manager : gnash, gnash-common, mozilla-plugin-nash
[13:04] <scunizi> vigo: unless you added a bunch, you shouldn't need to get rid of any
[13:05] <Steffann> Hello everyone
[13:05] <gabriel_> Another problem is that I have 2 ubuntu partitions an i would like to get rid of one because it is an Ubuntu 8.04 partition, how can I do that?
[13:05] <sipior> artemis: nothing on the console, if all goes well, but have a look at dmesg and your other logs.
[13:05] <Paddy_EIRE> DUDAS, hey man use pastebin
[13:05] <limboto> and adobe flashplugin
[13:05] <limboto> all above installed
[13:05] <Huufarted> hahahahaha
[13:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste | DUDAS
[13:05] <scunizi> limboto: not good
[13:05] <DUDAS> as you can see, eth0 hasn't got an ip
[13:05] <s3r3n1t7> Paddy_EIRE, it's a temp ban by floodbot, it'll auto unban ... it's so if someone posts a huge amount of text, the buffer which holds it is empty and he doesn't continue spamming.
[13:05] <Huufarted> limboto, is it 'flashplugin-nonfree' ?
[13:05] <sipior> gabriel_: simply upgrade the older install, i think
[13:06] <vigo> scunzi: I think I added the non-free and the GNU ones, I wish to be rid of the non-free or proprietary ones.
[13:06] <Paddy_EIRE> ah I see smart
[13:06] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[13:06] <artemis> sipior, thx :)
[13:06] <MyTh88> can i have problems after updating to 8.10?
[13:06] <Steffann> Is it possible ubuntu or software on ubuntu corrupts/destroy the BIOS of a laptop?
[13:06] <DUDAS> if i select wifi.... i get ip in etho and lost ip in eth1
[13:06] <limboto> scunizi: which good?
[13:06] <XxGoldxX> anyone know how to fix the no audio while online problem with linux
[13:06] <cypherus> I need to select a certain range of times in a folder of security video.  The format is like this MM-DD-YY-HH-MM-SS.avi.  How would I go about moving a certain range (say between 08-00-00 - 16-30-00) to another folder?
[13:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Steffann, no
[13:06] <Steffann> hmm
[13:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Steffann, unless you done something more specific
[13:06] <scunizi> vigo: you'll have better results getting rid of gnash.. but either way is easy..just use synaptic to uninstall what you don't want.
[13:06] <sipior> DUDAS: actually, i didn't see it, because you got kicked by the Paste Bot :-) could you use a pastebin? check out the link ubottu sent you previously
[13:06] <anxiolytic> I'm getting a "paper size mismatch" error. In windows I can disable the paper sensor in control panel. How do I do this in Linux? I'm using the right size. I just need to force this to print
[13:07] <maxagaz> how to see the differences between two files ?
[13:07] <limboto> Huufarted : flashplugin-nonfree not installed yet
[13:07] <scunizi> limboto: flashplugin-nonfree
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> scunizi, no
[13:07] <Huufarted> limboto, install that one.  You can use the terminal if you want:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:07] <vigo> scunzi: That sounds wise.
[13:07] <sipior> maxagaz: diff -u <file 1> <file 2>
[13:07] <DUDAS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/133017/
[13:07] <scunizi> anxiolytic: did you just install a pringer?
[13:07] <scunizi> *printer?
[13:07] <Steffann> Paddy_EIRE, i didn't do anything. But maybe some software that runned as root?
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, use adobe-flashplugin as the other is crashy as all hell
[13:07] <Huufarted> DUDAS, I'm sorry but that really did make me laugh.
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> Steffann, not a chance mate
[13:08] <anxiolytic> scunizi: no, it worked sometimes, not always. I think it depends on the app. OO doesn't work
[13:08] <limboto> and others plugin like gnash etc will removed?
[13:08] <sipior> DUDAS: so, eth0 is active, but has no address assigned. were you using dhcp or so?
[13:08] <DUDAS> that make me cry :-(
[13:08] <Huufarted> limboto, if it says it will remove them, then it will do just that.
[13:08] <MyTh88> under kernel 2.6.24-23 i havn't problems with skystar2...sould i have some when i update from 8.04 to 8.10?
[13:08] <scunizi> anxiolytic: most likely your paper size is defaulted at A4 and you need Letter or vice versa.. you can configure it in cup at http://localhost:631
[13:08] <Huufarted> limboto, besides...  those ones aren't working, right?
[13:08] <Steffann> My problem is.. i have a laptop with a broken bios, they replaced the motherboard. After that i runned ubuntu once, after that the bios was destroyed agian
[13:08] <kokou> hello good morning all, pls I am trying to install xdebug on my ubuntu server. I have done successfully sudo pecl install xdebugsudo pecl install xdebug and now, doing sudo gedit /etc/php/apache2/php.ini  gives me a non command found error
[13:08] <kokou> what do I do?
[13:09] <carpii> use an editor other than gedit ?
[13:09] <XxGoldxX> why am i unable to get audio online after playing music in rhythembox
[13:09] <anxiolytic> scunizi: woah, 8 years on Linux and I never knew cups had an interface
[13:09] <anxiolytic> fantastic
[13:09] <anxiolytic> thanks!
[13:09] <kokou> which editor?
[13:09] <quibbler> limboto: you have to remove gnash etc yourself
[13:09] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, go to "System > Administration > Software Sources" then go to 3rd party tab and enable/tick the partners repository.. once dont quit software sources and reload your package list.. then do "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[13:09] <kokou> and what command do i type?
[13:09] <MyTh88> XxGoldxX: ususally you can play only 1 audio source at time
[13:09] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, also remove any other flash installs such as gnash
[13:09] <carpii> kokou, try sudo nano instead of sudo gedit
[13:09] <scunizi> anxiolytic: np.. :))
[13:09] <kokou> ok
[13:10] <Steffann> so it is impossible ubuntu destroys my BIOS.. thanks
[13:10] <limboto> in this time i can view this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 the others i cant view
[13:10] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, as I said already
[13:10] <limboto> ok, i will try it
[13:10] <XxGoldxX> ok but im not playing anything in rythembox now and i am unable to hear any audio from an online source
[13:11] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, also close your browser as it obviously is not going to work if you leave it open the whole time while installing
[13:11] <raton> hola que tal necesito ayuda
[13:11] <sipior> Steffann: destroys your BIOS? no, i very much doubt it.
[13:11] <cypherus> How would I go about moving a certain range of times (say between 08-00-00 - 16-30-00) to another folder. The format is  MM-DD-YY-HH-MM-SS.avi
[13:11] <MyTh88> hmm....maybe rhythmbox is only paused, and occupies still the audio device? if you close it, can you hear sound
[13:11] <anchal> hello
[13:11] <scunizi> !es | raton
[13:11] <Paddy_EIRE> !es | raton
[13:11] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[13:11] <raton> ok
[13:11] <XxGoldxX> let me double check that its closed
[13:11] <noren> i m hving prob with vlc and sound, cant heaar anything in vlc
[13:11] <Steffann> Paddy_EIRE, it is possible to flash a bios on windows, why that isnt possible with ubuntu?
[13:11] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, are you doing as I said?
[13:12] <noren> !sound
[13:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Steffann, I never said it was not
[13:12] <DUDAS> i have an net icon on the upper right side of my screen (something like in windows) if  i click there i can select wire lan or wireless lan
[13:12] <BeCreative> hey. Does anyone know how to install OO 3 on ubuntu?
[13:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Steffann, did you flash your bios in ubuntu?
[13:12] <scunizi> Steffann: it is sometimes.. but you have to do it on purpose not by accident.
[13:12] <altalus> Is there a way to get a new login in a windows to login remotly to my other machine ? (not remote desktop bu through gdm or X11)
[13:12] <Steffann> and a Virus cannot do it..?
[13:12] <scunizi> BeCreative: google does.
[13:12] <anxiolytic> scunizi: (ignore PM, accident) what's the default login?
[13:12] <DUDAS> if i selegt wire lan, eth0 gets an ip and works fine in thtat lan
[13:12] <Steffann> (one of the few virusses for ubuntu)
[13:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Steffann, listen mate ubuntu wont do anything to your bios nor a virus
[13:12] <XxGoldxX> myth88: its closed and still no sound online
[13:13] <scunizi> Steffann: in linux?  highly unlikely
[13:13] <Steffann> hmm
[13:13] <MyTh88> hmmm...
[13:13] <MyTh88> !sound
[13:13] <DUDAS> iif i select wireless lan eth1 gets ip and works fine too
[13:13] <DUDAS> so
[13:13] <Paddy_EIRE> so?
[13:13] <sipior> DUDAS: you're using network manager, then?
[13:13] <DUDAS> i need work in both lan at the same time
[13:13] <scunizi> anxiolytic: for the cups interface.. I've never had it ask me.. I'd imaging your normal creds.
[13:13] <DUDAS> yes i thik so
[13:13] <scunizi> *imagine
[13:14] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, well?
[13:14] <limboto> not yet
[13:14] <Paddy_EIRE> ah well that would be your solution
[13:15] <limboto> frozen when i open youtube
[13:15] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, did you even do what I said
[13:15] <Paddy_EIRE> otherwise stop going on about youtube
[13:15] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[13:15] <limboto> :)
[13:15] <kokou> hello, my php.ini is a shortcut, how do I access and edit it? /etc/php/apache2/php.ini
[13:16] <dr_willis> kokou,  you mean a link?
[13:16] <Kingsy101> I wonder if someone could help me resolve a couple of errors? they just randomly showed up when I turned my computer on....
[13:16] <anxiolytic> scunizi: ok, had to edit permissions in etc/cups/cupsd.conf - thanks again
[13:16] <dr_willis> ls -l /etc/php/apache2/php.ini
[13:16] <noren> kokou: sudo gedit  /etc/php/apache2/php.ini
[13:16] <kokou> I used nano to edit the file
[13:16] <limboto> !flashplugin
[13:16] <scunizi> kokou: sudo updatedb.... locate php.ini
[13:16] <kokou> but when I used ftp to locate the file, it refers to a shortcut
[13:16] <sipior> DUDAS: multi-interface support is not great using network manager at the moment. in fact, i'm not even sure it is possible under 8.10, although it apparently is using the version that will be installed with 9.04. is this a long-term interface (one that won't be activated and deactivated constantly)?
[13:16] <Kingsy101> the first is....
[13:16] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, ?
[13:16] <Kingsy101> An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for Encryption Key Agent (Seahorse). Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[13:16]  * macman is there anyway to view what is inside of a .tar.gz without extracting it ?
[13:17] <limboto> yes Paddy
[13:17] <scunizi> anxiolytic: np.. I've never seen the cups interface lock a user out.. but glad you got in..
[13:17] <dr_willis> kokou,  ftp may be showing its a link to the actual file.. 'shortcuts' are windows terms..
[13:17] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, well?
[13:17] <kokou> ah ok sorry :}
[13:17] <sipior> macman: yeah, check out the "-t" switch for tar
[13:17] <erUSUL> macman: tar --list file.tar
[13:17] <kokou> dr_willis: what do I do then?
[13:17] <limboto> i just wondering, why some youtube can be open
[13:17] <dr_willis> kokou,  im not sure what you are trying to do actually
[13:18] <kokou> I want to edit php.ini
[13:18] <dr_willis> koko what does the output of this look like..-->  ls -l /etc/php/apache2/php.ini
[13:18] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, it is as it is.. unless you want to reverse engineer flash to find out I suggest you drop it :)
[13:18] <dr_willis> kokou,  so what does that have to do with ftp>?   sudo nano /etc/php/apacjhe2/php.ini   will edit it
[13:18] <Paddy_EIRE> as I said flakey crashy support.. use adobe-flashplugin limboto
[13:19] <kokou> using the nano command, opens a blank file
[13:19] <help> Hi
[13:19] <help> plz help
[13:19] <kokou> meaning file with no cotent
[13:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | help
[13:19] <Ubuntu_noob> can any1 help me? i installed a pacage that autoconfigs my ubuntu drivers and now i don't know how to rm some, as it installed my tv card (but only sondu) and i don't have any motion but only soud (tv prgram is not on) help me please :)
[13:19] <limboto> now, i already adobe-flashplugin
[13:19] <help> how to burn live rescue cd from Live CD Ubuntu ?
[13:19] <Kingsy101> has anyone got any idea about my problem?
[13:19] <help> I am stucked
[13:19] <lymeca> I'm trying to share an sshfs mount between 2 users on a 10+ user system.  I have found the -o allow_other switch, but it allows ALL users on the system FULL access to the mount.  Without it though, EVERY other user is cut out from the mount, even if they are in the group specified by the -o gid=1000 switch.  How can I selectively share an sshfs mount?
[13:19] <DUDAS> so you recomend update to ubuntu 9.04?
[13:19] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, and you removed gnash and flashplugin-nonfree
[13:19] <dr_willis> kokou,  try 'cat /etc/php/apache2/php.ini' and see if theres anytyhing in it.. if its empty then its empty. find a example one. and use it for a template I guess
[13:19] <limboto> others plugins removed
[13:19] <macman> hey all .. i went to gconf-editor and i enabled desktop icons etc .. for some reason they aren't showing .. any ideas ?
[13:19] <Paddy_EIRE> :(
[13:19] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, hmm
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> you had firefox completely closed while you did all this
[13:20] <Guest92452> Hey
[13:20] <Guest92452> Any help ?
[13:20] <Guest92452> how to burn live rescue cd from Live CD Ubuntu ?
[13:20] <kokou> troy@reao:~$ ls -l /etc/php/apache2/php.ini
[13:20] <Guest92452> I am stucked
[13:20] <kokou> ls: cannot access /etc/php/apache2/php.ini: No such file or directory
[13:20] <FloodBot1> Guest92452: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:20] <Ubuntu_noob> can any1 help me? i installed a pacage that autoconfigs my ubuntu drivers and now i don't know how to rm some, as it installed my tv card (but only sondu) and i don't have any motion but only soud (tv prgram is not on) help me please :)
[13:20] <kokou> troy@reao:~$
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | Guest92452
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> gah
[13:20] <limboto> ok i will restart
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[13:20] <sipior> macman: you'll want to make sure the gconf entry "Nautilus draws desktop" is checked. (i forget the precise name of the entry, but that's the gist of it...)
[13:21] <kokou> dr_willis: that is hte result
[13:21] <scunizi> Guest92452: there is no such thing as a rescue cd in linux.. that's a windows gimic.. the live cd IS your rescue cd.
[13:21] <kokou> troy@reao:~$ ls -l /etc/php/apache2/php.ini ls: cannot access /etc/php/apache2/php.ini: No such file or directory troy@reao:~$
[13:21] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, are you using 32 bit or 64 bit
[13:21] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[13:21] <dr_willis> kokou,  either you did a typo.. or the file dosent exist..  find a example one, and copy it over i guess..
[13:21] <Kingsy101> has anyone got any ideas about my error?
[13:21] <Guest92452> scunizi: Ok my system is amd64 so I cannot chroot from i386 Ubuntu to it
[13:21] <Guest92452> scunizi: I need to burn amd64 live cd
[13:22] <Guest92452> scunizi: the only thing I have is this i386
[13:22] <scunizi> Guest92452: so download a new copy of the amd64 version and burn it.
[13:22] <Paddy_EIRE> If limboto gets back and I am not here someone either resume helping her/him with adobe-flashplugin or say I am off for a smoke.. okay.. brb
[13:22] <Guest92452> scunizi: I did
[13:23] <Guest92452> scunizi: how to burn it from live cd ?
[13:23] <Ubuntu_noob> can any1 help me? i installed a pacage that autoconfigs my ubuntu drivers and now i don't know how to rm some, as it installed my tv card (but only sondu) and i don't have any motion but only soud (tv prgram is not on) help me please :)
[13:23] <s3r3n1t7> scunizi, thanks for the link. Now that i know what to search for i'm fairly confident i'll get it working. Tnx for ur time
[13:24] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: which package did you install?
[13:24] <scunizi> Guest92452: if you don't have 2 cdroms then you can't
[13:24] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: easylin
[13:24] <scunizi> s3r3n1t7: good hunting.. :)
[13:24] <Kingsy101> An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for Encryption Key Agent (Seahorse). Some of your configuration settings may not work properly. <---- anyone know how to solve that error? I get it on start-up...
[13:25] <Ubuntu_noob> all the time i hear sound from tvcard eventhoug it is not on
[13:25] <sipior> you ever notice how packages with "easy" in their name never actually are?
[13:25] <Guest92452> scunizi: not possible to umount live cd ?
[13:25] <scunizi> Guest92452: then how will you access the burning program?
[13:26] <Guest92452> scunizi: it should be possible to load burning program to memory and umount
[13:26] <scunizi> Guest92452: good luck with that
[13:26] <Guest92452> scunizi: but I dont know how
[13:26] <macman> sipior, i was actually running gonf-editor as root . that was the issue
[13:26] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: i'm not sure what this package did to your system, i'm afraid. it's not really part of ubuntu, so you might be best off asking the maintainers of the package for help.
[13:26] <Scix> is there and remote support tool for ubuntu like DameWare og TeamViewer?
[13:26] <dr_willis> Guest92452,  there are minimnal live cd's that run totally in ram and free up the drive.
[13:26] <sipior> macman: yeah, that'll do it :-)
[13:27] <Flynsarmy> How do i empty my garbage bin if it hitting the 'Empty Garbage Bin' button won't remove everything in there?
[13:27] <dstar> Is anyone here familiar with DKMS? I'd like to get the driver for my wireless adapter (rt2870sta) into dkms so I don't have to build it by hand every time I install a new kernel image....
[13:27] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: this package automaticlly installs the drivers, i didn't have my tv card and it foudn them on internet and installed them but nnow i don't know how to remove these drivers, and when i type rmmod bttv sound goes off
[13:27] <scunizi> Flynsarmy: use a bigger empty key :)
[13:28] <sipior> Flynsarmy: you can head to ~/.local/share/Trash and blow away whatever files you need to
[13:28] <Kingsy101> scunizi - do you have any ideas about my error?
[13:28] <Kingsy101> or anyone for that matter....
[13:29] <sniff_> how to copy folder and paste using gnome with permission
[13:29] <Flynsarmy> sipior, thanks
[13:29] <scunizi> Flynsarmy: it just means that you have something in there that has it's permissions messed up.. you can drag out the trash to your desktop and give the files/folders new permissions or.. use gksudo nautilus and delete directly
[13:29] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: sorry, not sure i follow. why do you want to remove these drivers?
[13:29] <scunizi> !trash | Flynsarmy
[13:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Kingsy101, perhaps a little more info about what exactly you where doing would be helpful
[13:29] <BigMoopies> Does anyone know of a duplicate file finder ?
[13:29] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: as i hear sound from tv card while it is not on
[13:29] <erUSUL> info fdup | BigMoopies
[13:29] <sipior> BigMoopies: based on the file content, or the filename?
[13:29] <erUSUL> !info fdup | BigMoopies
[13:29] <dr_willis> BigMoopies,  check the package manager.. ive seen them in there i think
[13:30] <scunizi> Kingsy101: I've no idea
[13:30] <dr_willis> !find fdup
[13:30] <erUSUL> !info fdupes | BigMoopies
[13:30] <Kingsy101> 3 errors just appeared at startup, after I log in, the first one is... ---> An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for Encryption Key Agent (Seahorse). Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[13:30] <Kingsy101> Paddy_EIRE - ^^^^^
[13:30] <BigMoopies> Content , sometimes the names are different
[13:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Kingsy101, yeah what I meant was before you got that error
[13:30] <Paddy_EIRE> what you where doing
[13:30] <riwa> Are CORE files written to ~?
[13:31] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: what program are you using to view the television? you say that the sound still continues after you've turned the viewer program off?
[13:31] <Kingsy101> I cant remember, the PC hadnt been shutdown for like 5 days so alot of stuff had been done..
[13:31] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: i'm not using any tv program....
[13:31] <Kingsy101> Paddy_ERIE - what about this one...  ----> An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for x-session-manager. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[13:32] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: then how were you using the tv card?
[13:32] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior, if i reboot system is loads on startup
[13:32] <_Roman> I have a dell 20" monitor and a Nvidia GeForce 6200 running under Ubuntu 8.10.  When I go to the screen resolution apllication, it does not give me an option to rotate the screen (it only has one option, None).  Does anyone know how I can enable screen rotation?
[13:32] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: i wasn't ... i wanted to install drivers first
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Kingsy101, I dont know.. without knowing the changes you made it would require mind reading
[13:32] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[13:33] <BigMoopies> How would I be able to give it more than 1 directory to compare ? Such as if I wanted it to scan 2 externals for the same files? all I see is "fdupes options directory"
[13:33] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: okay, but you've done that already. so what exactly is the problem? you mentioned you were hearing sounds from the card. what program was controlling that?
[13:33] <Kingsy101> Paddy_ERIE - isnt there a log or soemthing that can be read to see whats causing the problem? because I cant remember...
[13:33] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[13:33] <deany> im tryin to get ssh workin on my dell mini 9.  ive already got 1 server setup fine with publickeyauth as "yes" and pub key added.  but this ubuntu hardy on this mini isnt having it. keeps askin for the password..
[13:33] <BigMoopies> also, without -d , does it just DISPLAY the files, instead of delete one of them ?
[13:34] <funkyHat> deany: where did you put your key?
[13:34] <Kingsy101> Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-UD5kmDzDvh: Connection refused)
[13:34] <Kingsy101> Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-zZAaK1tc4F: Connection refused)
[13:34] <scunizi> deany: that would be the users password typically..
[13:34] <Kingsy101> Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-hnycyFZcF7: Connection refused)
[13:34] <Kingsy101> Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-LQpBfTZU5a: Connection refused)
[13:34] <Kissaki> Sometimes (not definitely but also sometimes when I mouse and move over the windows header line) my header line becomes grey (like the rest pf the window). But not just like it's not focused, but the maximize and close button on the top right disappear as well. Only the line from the minimize button remain (not the button). The buttons as well as headerline seem to remain functional though. ???
[13:34] <sipior> deany: try "ssh-copy-id", it's quite handy
[13:34] <Kingsy101> SHIT, sorry ppl
[13:34] <locovicen> hello
[13:34] <deany> funkyHat, thats the thing,  i cant... keeps askin for the password, even when i try ssh-copy-id
[13:35] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior, i installed tvtime and it said tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card ............ so i installed this package to autoinstall it, i rebooted the system and i heard sound from startup
[13:35] <deany> ive even set the config to pubkeyauth NO, still wont accept the password..
[13:35] <Kingsy101> Paddy_ERIE - anyways lol those are the detauls of the error if that helps at all?
[13:35] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-find-duplicate-copies-of-files-using-fdupes-in-ubuntu.html
[13:35] <Kingsy101> sorry again for flooding there
[13:35] <sipior> deany: does it give an error about the key if you connect with ssh -v?
[13:35] <rtx3462> deany: you must generate the key pair on the client, then you ssh-copy-id to copy the public key to the server
[13:35] <sipior> Kingsy101: no worries, accidents happen :-)
[13:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Kingsy101, I will have a search about.. I cant remember specifically which logs should be looked at
[13:35] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: without turning tvtime on.... and tvtime still doesn't work :/
[13:36] <funkyHat> deany: so type the password and then it will put the key in the right place, then next time you won't have to type the password...
[13:36] <deany> i have keys already generated on this machine, i use it to ssh to another machine already setup..
[13:36] <BigMoopies> Paddy_EIRE, but how would I make it scan both of my externals ?  fdupes -r /media/My_Book /media/My_Book2 ?
[13:36] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: but the sounds you're hearing are from the tv tuner? or just static?
[13:36] <deany> its not accepting the password.. the pass is right.
[13:36] <BigMoopies> Paddy_EIRE, Or just give it /media/ and let it go wild ?
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, oh I see
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[13:36] <rtx3462> deany: try looking in /var/log/auth.log on the server
[13:36] <scunizi> Kingsy101: we have you in our profile book now.  Pics, finger prints, and ssh keys.. any more messing around and we'll be forced to give you 30 lashes with a wet spagetti noodle.
[13:36] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior static, and when i use rmmod bttv sound stops
[13:36] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, that would take a while but yes you could do that
[13:36] <Kingsy101> lol
[13:37] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: does the card also have an FM tuner on it?
[13:37] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: yes
[13:37] <Ubuntu_noob> sipior: yes it does
[13:37] <BigMoopies> Paddy_EIRE, Just give it /media/ ?
[13:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Kingsy101, hehe.. do you have an attached NFS filesystem that perhaps did not shutdown correctly?
[13:37] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[13:37] <Paddy_EIRE> as I said it may take a while depending on size :/
[13:38] <BigMoopies> Paddy_EIRE, My_Book is 320 , My_Book1 is 160 , and the other drive is 360
[13:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Kingsy101, or a windows partition that is mounted on boot up that did not close down properly?
[13:38] <limboto> !flashplayer
[13:38] <Paddy_EIRE> oh dear
[13:38] <Kingsy101> Paddy_ERIE - I dont think so, I only have 1 HD and its not partitioned... so unless the main partition didnt shutdown correctly
[13:38] <BigMoopies> Paddy_EIRE, Also I have my NTFS mounted in /media/windows , I guess I can just umount that for now ?
[13:39] <sipior> Ubuntu_noob: you can specify options for the module in /etc/modprobe.d/. there must be an option to disable the tuner; check the driver documentation for help here.
[13:39] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[13:39] <limboto> Paddy: still i cant view yt
[13:39] <limboto> :)
[13:39] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, oh yes big time :)
[13:39] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to use the built-in encrypt folder option in intrepid, and after I make a new key I just get "couldn't generate pgp key" any ideas?
[13:39] <funkyHat> BigMoopies: make a new empty directory inside /media and mount there instead
[13:39] <limboto> frozen when i open it
[13:39] <riwa> Do anyone have the new weechat (0.2.6.1)? It doesn't seem to be available through apt-get and there's apparently a security issue with the current one. Who is responsible for packages?
[13:39] <Ryder5> ok whats the ftp command to upload a folder to ftp
[13:39] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, really.. hmm.. are you using 8.10 64 bit or 32 bit?
[13:39] <Ryder5> via terminal btw
[13:39] <erUSUL> r
[13:40] <erUSUL> !bugs | riwa
[13:40] <hehao> hi,ppl
[13:40] <BigMoopies> Well /media/windows/music is already shared.  I don't want to be having to redo that.  And I better get this done for the other ones complain about not being able to play it.
[13:40] <limboto> my notebook is lenovo Y410
[13:40] <deany> i reinstallled openssh-server on the mini,  removed everything from my known_hosts file, and tried ssh-copy-id again,  i said yes to "key cant be established, continue?"  and now im being asked for a password.. its not accepting it
[13:40] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, hey try this gui app http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fslint-toolkit-to-fix-various-problems-with-filesystems-data.html
[13:40] <hehao> hi,ppl.talk to me!
[13:40] <limboto> by the way, how to check 64 or 32 bit?
[13:40] <bazhang> hehao, not here
[13:40] <Ryder5> get only uploads a file i wanna upload folder however
[13:41] <bazhang> hehao, this is ubuntu support NOT chat
[13:41] <scunizi> riwa: you might have to compile it.. it looks a LOT like irssi.. why not just make the switch?
[13:41] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, looks like you can add any amount of directories you want
[13:41] <riwa> erUSUL: The bug has been fixed in a new version. But it's not available in ubuntu (but in debian it is).
[13:41] <hehao> OK,where can i find some real chatter>??
[13:41] <BigMoopies> Paddy_EIRE, That looks like what I wanted.. It looks like Finddupes in windows lol
[13:41] <Paddy_EIRE> hehe
[13:41] <riwa> scunizi: Because weechat > irssi IMHO
[13:41] <ZZT4> hey all, can anyone help me with finding a video card driver?
[13:41] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic hehao
[13:41] <erUSUL> riwa: file a bug against the weechat package stating that
[13:41] <riwa> erUSUL: Ok. Thanks
[13:41] <sipior> riwa: often, security fixes are backported to the previous version, so an "older" version that is part of 8.10 may have the fix you're looking for. make sure you have the security repositories activated.
[13:41] <scunizi> riwa: how.. what features?
[13:42] <hehao> thanks,bazhang,but no thanks
[13:42] <riwa> Like usability and plugins.
[13:42] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, which version of ubuntu and is it 64 or 32 bit?
[13:42] <Kissaki> Sometimes (not definitely but also sometimes when I mouse and move over the windows header line) my header line becomes grey (like the rest pf the window). But not just like it's not focused, but the maximize and close button on the top right disappear as well. Only the line from the minimize button remain (not the button). The buttons as well as headerline seem to remain functional though. ???
[13:42] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, ah "uname -r" in a terminal
[13:43] <hehao> this is the very first time to run on Ubuntu,and i've some really helpful guys like you who teach me to type -offtopic.
[13:43] <limboto> akmal@adlia:~$ uname -r
[13:43] <limboto> 2.6.27-7-generic
[13:43] <Paddy_EIRE> 32 bit most likely
[13:44] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, and you are using firefox?
[13:44] <limboto> yes
[13:44] <sipior> hehao: did you have a question or something? there're usually over a thousand people in this channel, so we generally try to keep on point, for everyone's sanity.
[13:45] <limboto> i just install ubuntu 8.10 from cd
[13:45] <unr3a1> hey all
[13:45] <fabien_> quelqu' un
[13:45] <fabien_> one two three
[13:45] <unr3a1> I was curious what people'
[13:45] <bazhang> fabien_, #ubuntu-fr
[13:45] <sky_> hi
[13:45] <unr3a1> I was curious what was peoples opinions on downloading and installing all updates that update manager alerts you to
[13:45] <sky_> how i can protect my exe programs from infection ?
[13:45] <sky_> i mean virus infection
[13:45] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, could you open up synaptic package manager and search for "flash" and tell me what is installed
[13:45] <fabien_> comment allez vous ??
[13:46] <limboto> ok
[13:46] <Vonor> sky_, linux has no viruses
[13:46] <Paddy_EIRE> unr3a1, do so
[13:46] <Chowder> I'm trying to install Acetone Iso but it says that it can't satisfy certain dependencies. I then apt-get the dependencies that it needs but to no avail. Has anyone tried to install acetoneiso?
[13:46] <limboto> please wait
[13:46] <Paddy_EIRE> unr3a1, they are there for your benefit
[13:46] <BigMoopies> Paddy_EIRE, I see with either one , it's gonna take about 4hours probably
[13:46] <fabien_> sky linux two oue
[13:46] <Paddy_EIRE> O_O
[13:46] <unr3a1> I personally update everything that that is available in update manager, but a friend and I were debating and he was taking that windows ideology of only downloading and updating what you need.
[13:46] <sky_> Vonor: linux not but viruses can infect executable files -> and wine dont know what is and what is not virus
[13:46] <Vonor> sky_, and even if, per default you don't have write permissions on the binaries, unless you work as root (which you shouldn't), so even if viruses existed, they couldn't infect your files
[13:46] <sipior> unr3a1: generally you want all updates, unless you have a good reason not to.
[13:46] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, hell man.. is there no way to filter it down any.. I mean which type of file are you most interested in finding duplicates of?
[13:47] <fabien_> quelqu' un parle francais ????
[13:47] <sky_> nono guys you dont understand :)
[13:47] <BigMoopies> wmv, mp4, avi
[13:47] <Paddy_EIRE> unr3a1, which is a faulty logic..
[13:47] <bazhang> fabien_, /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:47] <sipior> unr3a1: also, the windows ideology hasn't exactly done wonders for system security, so i'd generally recommend avoiding it :-)
[13:47] <Paddy_EIRE> unr3a1, tell your friend to keep his broken philosophy to himself
[13:47] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[13:47] <apraxas> hi
[13:47] <sky_> so anyone can help me ?
[13:48] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone
[13:48] <Vonor> sky, what do you care if the one program you run in wine is infected? it can't infect files outside the wine session... :)
[13:48] <hehao> so you ppl do kick others out,right?
[13:48] <apraxas> have a nice day
[13:48] <bazhang> sky_, we answered.
[13:48] <unr3a1> Paddy_EIRE:  Thats what I thought.  I always updated everything, but he was yelling at me that I shouldn't and thought I would get professional opinions... thank you for proving me right to my friend.  :)
[13:48] <fabien_> sky two
[13:48] <sky_> no
[13:48] <Pici> hehao: Please stay on topic, this is a support channel.
[13:48] <Vonor> sky_, clamav is what you want
[13:48] <Paddy_EIRE> unr3a1, no problem
[13:48] <fabien_> j' y vais
[13:48] <hehao> Ok,thanks, i guess i'd keep silence.
[13:48] <sky_> my WoW got infected by Parite.B virus...and i cant run it
[13:48] <cast> sky_: haha. nice.
[13:49] <limboto> Paddy : just adobe-flashplugin installed
[13:49] <AussieGuy> is there any command line tool for linux that can zip, rar or 7-zip files that supports creation of a multi-part archive (part1.zip part2.zip etc)
[13:49] <sky_> scm: you dont understand
[13:49] <fabien_> non , sms
[13:49] <cast> Vonor: it may still provide a remote shell etc..
[13:49] <hehao> the point is somebody kicked me out without warning..
[13:49] <cast> Vonor: wine isn't any sort of security jail
[13:49] <scunizi> sky_: if you're running exe's in wine you may be subject to virus's only in those exe's.  however I'm not sure if even clamav that Vonor suggests will protect anything that is running in wine.. you might consider using virtual box and loading a full windows environment with avg or whatever and running your programs from there.
[13:49] <apraxas> i have a problem. with picasa and ubuntu. i cant read my menu. and in other wine applications,too. know somebody how i can fix this
[13:49] <Vonor> sky_, replace it with an uninfected version or see if clamav or any other anti virus tool can fix it...or simply install anti virus soft in wine and let it do the check
[13:50] <Paddy_EIRE> BigMoopies, can you not explicitly tell that fslint app to only look for files of that type then.. perhaps that will cut the search time right down?
[13:50] <scunizi> sky_: if the exe's aren't accessing the internet then you should be pretty protected without anything.
[13:50] <azlon> what directory are apps install to?
[13:50] <Huufarted> Multiple monitor question for somebody.  Laptop + external monitor.  Monitor is physically to the LEFT of the laptop and the Monitor Resolution Settings reflect this.  Primary display is defaulting to that external monitor.  I suspect this is because it's the left monitor.  Is there a way to force the primary display to the laptop's built in screen?
[13:50] <azlon> bin?
[13:50] <sipior> AussieGuy: sure, check out "zip" and "zipsplit"
[13:50] <scunizi> Huufarted: is this on nvidia?
[13:51] <Huufarted> scunizi, Intel
[13:51] <fabien_> huo plise derte
[13:51] <apraxas> please >	i have a problem. with picasa and ubuntu. i cant read my menu. and in other wine applications,too. know somebody how i can fix this
[13:51] <fabien_> derte
[13:51] <Paddy_EIRE> no.. there is no single solitary directory azlon you are not using windows..
[13:51] <bazhang> fabien_, stop
[13:51] <scunizi> Huufarted: in that case you'll want to search out commands for xrandr or randr ..
[13:51] <Huufarted> scunizi, thanks.
[13:51] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, maybe tell us what you are specifically trying to do
[13:51] <scunizi> Huufarted: np
[13:51] <dr_willis> een in windows.. thers not a single directory. :) programs can still put stuff outside of /program files'
[13:51] <fabien_> ???
[13:51] <fabien_> à la suioy
[13:51] <ZZT4> can anyone here help me find a graphics card driver?
[13:52] <sky_> scunizi, vonor : Parite.B infect all scr and exe format...i have WoW on ext3 partition...o copyied it from ntfs where was only shortcut infected...and i tought that on ext3 fs i cant get infection :X
[13:52] <fabien_> tu parle francais bazhang
[13:52] <scunizi> ZZT4: for what card
[13:52] <bazhang> fabien_, this is english only
[13:52] <sipior> azlon: generally /usr/bin or /usr/sbin. /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/sbin for things you install yourself.
[13:52] <Paddy_EIRE> !fr | fabien_
[13:52] <bazhang> fabien_, #ubuntu-fr for french
[13:52] <Vonor> sky_, btw, there are other mmorpgs which run natively on linux. regnum for example, or planeshift, which even is opensource...and both don't require a monthly fee like WoW :)
[13:52] <ZZT4> scunizi: I have an ATI Radeon 2600 XT in an iMac
[13:52] <Chowder> ZZT4, google is your friend
[13:52] <azlon> Paddy_EIRE: I downloaded SunBird 0.9 from their website, but it comes in a tar file. I assume I need to extract this to where my firefox and thunderbird are
[13:52] <hehao> bye,ppl.
[13:53] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, you could either build from source or install the .deb
[13:53] <ZZT4> Chowder: I've tried google to no avail
[13:53] <fabien_> je m' en fishe
[13:53] <sky_> Vonor: its not answer switching to other game
[13:53] <Paddy_EIRE> which would be better options
[13:53] <limboto> !flashplugins
[13:53] <limboto> !flashplugin
[13:53] <Vonor> sky_, the fs it self won't protect you from viruses. it's just that windows viruses can't run natively on linux (or other unix-like os's)
[13:53] <fabien_> masi j' aime bien ce tchat
[13:53] <scunizi> ZZT4: well that's two strikes for me.. ATI I'm not good with and on an iMac... well that really shouldn't make a difference. Did you look in System>Admin>Hardware Drivers to see if there was anything waiting to be activated?
[13:53] <azlon> Paddy_EIRE: where can I get the deb? I looked for it but the SunBird website only has the tar
[13:53] <Paddy_EIRE> limboto, could you stop firing that trigger please :)
[13:53] <Vonor> sky_, i provided you a couple of solutions already and so did scunizi
[13:54] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, just a moment
[13:54] <ZZT4> yah it kept popping up to install an ATI graphics card driver, but it never takes
[13:54] <fabien_> bon ba je dois partir . AUrevoir
[13:54] <Chowder> AcetoneIso install help please
[13:54] <Borg7-9> do i need 8.10 to update to 9.04 or i can do it with 8.04
[13:54] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[13:54] <sky_> Vonor: i have clamav but he dont fix Parite.B he just only delete infected files :X
[13:54] <unr3a1> sipior and Paddy_EIRE:  thank you both very much. my friend thinks that we are all nuts for updating everything.  lol
[13:54] <bazhang> Borg7-9, the former
[13:54] <yadu_> hi all
[13:54] <gte351s> hi - is there an ubuntu version that provides touchscreen capabilities (for HP2730p tablet pc)?
[13:54] <yadu_> i'm having a problem with mounting my windows drives
[13:54] <azlon> Paddy_EIRE: is that SongBird or SunBird?
[13:54] <scunizi> !ati | ZZT4 sorry this is the best I can do..
[13:54] <yadu_> can someone help
[13:54] <Borg7-9> bazhang i dont understad
[13:55] <sipior> unr3a1: well, he's wrong, and owes you a pint ;-)
[13:55] <Vonor> sky_, whats so hard about re-installing WoW in a virus-free environment? ;)
[13:55] <gte351s> yadu_ : what's the problem?
[13:55] <bazhang> Borg7-9, from 8.10
[13:55] <Chowder> yadu_, please explain in further detail
[13:55] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, songbird as it says on the url itself ;)
[13:55] <apraxas> please > i have a problem. with picasa and ubuntu. i cant read my menu. and in other wine applications,too. know somebody how i can fix this
[13:55] <DarkPriest> hi everyone...I wanted to read my linux partition on my windows XP and so i installed a software from http://www.fs-driver.org/ and i lost my swap partition after that (its now an NTFS partition)...is there any way to get it back? thank you...
[13:55] <ZZT4> scunizi: it prompts me to enable the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver, and when I click enable, it fails
[13:55] <GunbladeIV> ZZT4: what ATI card do you have?
[13:55] <yadu_> i tried to mount
[13:55] <Borg7-9> bazhang so i need to upgrade to 8.10 then 9.04??
[13:55] <yadu_> windows partitions but it did not work
[13:55] <azlon> Paddy_EIRE: right, im looking for sunbird
[13:55] <unr3a1> sipior: no doubt.  :)
[13:55] <ZZT4> GunbladeIV: ATI Radeon 2600 XT
[13:55] <cast> DarkPriest: man mkswap
[13:55] <gte351s> yadu_: have you tried this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[13:56] <Chowder> yadu_, pastebin the terminal output
[13:56] <yadu_> says that the partitions are still bein used by windows
[13:56] <scunizi> DarkPriest: your swap is NTFS?
[13:56] <bazhang> Borg7-9, yes, when 9.04 is released (discussion of such in #ubuntu+1)
[13:56] <sky_> Vonor: wow have about 10GB :X...and i dont have backup with patches...
[13:56] <DarkPriest> cast: will try that out....thank you!
[13:56] <Vonor> 10gb for a game? wow!
[13:56] <Borg7-9> ZZT4 what is your problem
[13:56] <azlon> Paddy_EIRE: you got me on the right track though, thanks
[13:56] <scunizi> ZZT4: I'm going to have to leave this one to others more knowledgable.
[13:56] <sky_> Vonor: yea its hard
[13:56] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, sure thing
[13:56] <Vonor> anyways, install a windows anti-virus software that can fix pirate.b on wine and run it
[13:56] <Chowder> yadu_, Windows Vista?
[13:57] <Vonor> might be your only solution
[13:57] <yadu_> sorry ., i am not that good with the terminal
[13:57] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, ah sunbird sorry mate :P
[13:57] <Paddy_EIRE> hehe
[13:57] <ZZT4> Borg7-9: trying to find a driver for my ati video card
[13:57] <yadu_> Chowder, yes
[13:57] <hehao_> -offtopic
[13:57] <yadu_> should i try to login to vista and shutdown ?
[13:57] <Huufarted> scunizi: when I attempt to install xrandr, it says it's been replaced by x11-xserver-utils.  Does that sound right to you?
[13:57] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=sunbird
[13:57] <hehao_> nothing happened
[13:57] <Chowder> yadu_, did you reboot/shutdown cleanly from Vista?
[13:57] <cast> once something is infected with a virus the entire thing is compromised. best to wipe it all, start over, i'm assuming you don't have hashes of the files
[13:57] <azlon> Paddy_EIRE: I searched the site you gave me for sunbird and it gave me an old... nevermind, thanks
[13:58] <kitche> Huufarted: yes
[13:58] <GunbladeIV> ZZT4: have you tried to used envy to enable your ATI card?
[13:58] <Huufarted> kitche, thanks.  :)
[13:58] <Paddy_EIRE> azlon, check that last link
[13:58] <Paddy_EIRE> more recent
[13:58] <ZZT4> GunbladeIV: sorry, what's Envy exactly?
[13:58] <scunizi> Huufarted: no.. randr or xrandr is the system that pretty much controls video now in the backend.. that's why xorg.conf looks so empty.  there are commands to set one monitor right or left of "whatever"
[13:59] <archman> Can I remove linux-image-2.6.27-13-generic if I am using the newest kernel now?
[13:59] <yadu_> Chowder, I DONT know
[13:59] <Huufarted> scunizi, so it's already installed by default.
[13:59] <ubuntu72> hi
[13:59] <scunizi> Huufarted: yes.. but you have to use the terminal to get things done with it.
[13:59] <Huufarted> oh snap, it is installed.
[13:59] <unr3a1> archman: you mean from grub, or the image file itself?
[13:59] <Huufarted> scunizi, that's fine by me...
[13:59] <ubuntu72> good day sunshine
[13:59] <GunbladeIV> ZZT4: you might find it useful to google yourself about ANVY
[13:59] <GunbladeIV> ENVY*
[13:59] <archman> unr3a1: the image file, it occupies 100mb...
[14:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !envy
[14:00] <ubuntu72> do you can help me
[14:00] <Chowder> yadu_, you should try to boot into vista and then reboot. Its possible that your reboot wasn't clean and Vista set the dirty bit.
[14:00] <ubuntu72> im new in linux
[14:00] <GunbladeIV> thanks Paddy_EIRE
[14:00] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[14:00] <hehao_> I'm running on Vista.it runs pretty stable,it's the best OS ever been produced.
[14:00] <Chowder> ubuntu72, have you read the documentation?
[14:00] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu72, we cant help if you dont ask us a question
[14:00] <ubuntu72> yes
[14:00] <ZZT4> GunbladeIV: alright, thanks. will do.
[14:01] <Chowder> ubuntu72, well what is your question?
[14:01] <ubuntu72> is there any tema
[14:01] <Chowder> tema?
[14:01] <unr3a1> archman: If you believe that the new kernel will work without any hiccups, sure.  Just make sure that you remove the entry out of /boot/grub/menu.lst as well to ensure that you dont accidentally try to boot to that image file.
[14:01] <yadu_> Chowder, okay.thanks i'll try that
[14:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot | hehao_
[14:01] <GunbladeIV> ZZT4: not a problem. I have ATI card too. It's easier to use envy.
[14:01] <xaos11> hehao_, you're kidding right
[14:01] <Chowder> yadu_, np
[14:01] <ubuntu72> im a virgin
[14:01] <ubuntu72> in linux
[14:01] <hehao_> @xaoll, no,I'm not.
[14:01] <Paddy_EIRE> xaos11, dont feed the troll
[14:01]  * xaos11 pops ubuntu72s linux cherry
[14:02] <sipior> "awkward"
[14:02] <lupine_85> beat me to it :/
[14:02] <Chowder> ubuntu72, tema means theme in Spanish. Hablas espanol?
[14:02] <archman> unr3a1: i think that if i remove the file, it will remove the entry also...So it's secure to remove those files? :)
[14:02] <ubuntu72> i like
[14:02] <ubuntu72> si hablo español
[14:02] <Paddy_EIRE> hehao_, unless you have a support question then take it to the offtopic
[14:02] <ubuntu72> sorry
[14:02] <jpds> !es | ubuntu72
[14:02] <Chowder> ubuntu72, debes de entrar en el chat de espanol. Aqui solo hablan ingles
[14:02] <ubuntu72> si gracias
[14:02] <ubuntu72> have a nice day
[14:03]  * scunizi see's a troll in the house
[14:03] <Chowder> igualmente
[14:03] <unr3a1> archman: yes.  I have removed mine in the past without problems.
[14:03] <unr3a1> archman: and now that I think of it, I dont remember if I had to remove the entry out of grub.
[14:03] <archman> unr3a1: ok, thanks! ;)
[14:03] <Chowder> being bilingual is nice :)
[14:03] <unr3a1> archman: np
[14:03] <sky_> fu ...in virus
[14:04] <Paddy_EIRE> sky_, what?
[14:04] <blazak> hi how do i set up php, apache, and mySQL with Ubuntu from the shell in command line?
[14:04] <gregge> Does anyone know how to make key-combos to control e.g. spotify while playing a game?
[14:04] <Chowder> blazak, did you read the documentation?
[14:04] <gregge> or if there are some already?
[14:04] <Chowder> or google?
[14:04] <mattgyver83> Transmission tells me that Port 51413 is closed, I have opened the port on the router, any ideas?
[14:04] <GunbladeIV> blazak: sudo apt-get install apache php5 mysql-server
[14:05] <Chowder> mattgyver83, try telling transmission to forward the port
[14:05] <Paddy_EIRE> mattgyver83, yeah.. open the port on your router like it says
[14:05] <ubuntu72> The Makings Of A Wild Night
[14:05] <archman> unr3a1, linux-headers are safe to remove too?
[14:05] <blazak> thanks GunbladeIV
[14:05] <ubuntu72> As far back as I can remember, I have always loved bras.
[14:05] <mattgyver83> I did that, Its set for dynamic though, should i just forward it to a specific machine?
[14:05] <GunbladeIV> blazak: i think you might need to change apache to apache2
[14:05] <ubuntu72> I used to look in catalogs at the bras.
[14:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !ops | ubuntu72 trolling
[14:06] <sipior> ubuntu72: uh...wrong channel? i hope?
[14:06] <ubuntu72> I have been wearing bras just about every night for the last year.
[14:06] <ubuntu72> The wife does not mind. She just says they are nice. In fact, I love panties and slips.
[14:06] <sky_> lol :DD
[14:06] <GunbladeIV> what id ubuntu72 talking about
[14:06] <GunbladeIV> lol
[14:07] <Myrtti> moving on
[14:07] <Chowder> has anyone compiled their own kernel with Ubuntu? I'm on 8.04 and I used to use archlinux. My first step would be "zcat /proc/config.gz" but it seems that that option is unavailable to me. How do I get the default kernel .config?
[14:07] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[14:07] <cast> Chowder: check /boot
[14:07] <GunbladeIV> Chowder: i have
[14:07] <GunbladeIV> Chowder: do you mean custom compile kernel?
[14:07] <sipior> Chowder: have a look at /boot/config-2.6.xx-xx-generic and the like
[14:07] <Chowder> GunbladeIV, precisely
[14:07] <sky_> ok i am stop playing WOW
[14:07] <Paddy_EIRE> mattgyver83, give your torrent box a static IP
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> Chowder, use the older kernel's .config
[14:07] <oCean_> blazak: instead of installing all packages seperately, you can also use the tasksel interface
[14:08] <Chowder> I actually want to compile the kernel so that I can use ext4
[14:08] <oCean_> blazak: "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" should do
[14:08] <mattgyver83> Paddy_EIRE, just did and it works, thank you.
[14:08] <GunbladeIV> Chowder: give me 5 sec.. need to revise
[14:08] <Chowder> np
[14:08] <cast> Chowder: don't like modules? :P
[14:08] <natsukashi> Seriously guys, I miss Half Life 2, can anyone help me getting my grub to work? ):
[14:08] <blazak> oh wow.
[14:08] <unr3a1> archman: it should be safe to remove linux headers, but I have never personally done so, so I cannot vouch for that
[14:08] <Paddy_EIRE> mattgyver83, :)
[14:08] <arvind_khadri> !grub | natsukashi
[14:09] <Chowder> cast, nah, its that when I upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu compiz stops working. My graphics card was blacklisted.
[14:09] <natsukashi> arvind_khadri: Yeah. I've followed all of those tutorials
[14:09] <cast> ah.
[14:09] <natsukashi> It still doesn't work
[14:09] <cast> i see you problem
[14:09] <corazon> hi
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> natsukashi, what error do you get?
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> !hi | corazon
[14:09] <ikonia> corazon: please don't talk about bras again
[14:10] <n8tuserf> thank goodness Sun suffering is almost over, taken over by IBM
[14:10] <natsukashi> arvind_khadri: Whenever I try to boot Windows the computer just restarts.
[14:10] <corazon> i need talk with you
[14:10] <cast> n8tuserf: really?
[14:10] <archman> unr3a1: ok, I'm rebooting now.
[14:10] <Pici> n8tuserf: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support things please.
[14:10] <corazon> im cecy
[14:10] <deany> still wont play nice (ssh).  Permission denied (publickey,password).  passwordauthentication is hashed out, pubkeyauth is enabled.. why wont it accept the users password?
[14:10] <ikonia> corazon: this is for ubuntu support only
[14:10] <remoteCTRL2> rrr
[14:10] <ikonia> corazon: no other discussion  - not Bra's or anything
[14:10] <corazon> no about bra again
[14:11] <corazon> i only play
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> natsukashi, hmm you would have to go to ##windows for that
[14:11] <ikonia> corazon: - you don't play here, you can ask about ubuntu support only
[14:11] <Paddy_EIRE> corazon, what is your support question?
[14:11] <sipior> deany: wait, you said that passwordauthentication is off?
[14:11] <sky_> corazon you waste ikonia's time :P
[14:11] <Paddy_EIRE> corazon, if you have none then please move along
[14:11] <deany> sipior, ive enabled it as well, wont accept.
[14:11] <blazak> should php just work now? or is there more configuration involved?
[14:11] <unr3a1> archman: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/17/remove-ubuntu-kernels-you-dont-need/
[14:11] <natsukashi> arvind_khadri: Irc channel? On what server in that case?
[14:12] <arvind_khadri> natsukashi, on freenode only
[14:12] <sipior> deany: have you verified that you can use this login from the terminal?
[14:12] <deany> i have the thing next to me
[14:12] <deany> :)
[14:12] <riwa> Is there a way to run a specific command in the background if someone fails to login 5 times in a row?
[14:12] <deany> its only a dell mini 9.. with hardy
[14:12] <GunbladeIV> Chowder: what do you request earlier?
[14:13] <Chowder> riwa, interesting question. Sounds like someting you would have to script
[14:13] <deany> is it maybe because the password is short? (4 letters)
[14:13] <sipior> deany: can you pastebin your sshd config? suitably sanitised, of course...
[14:13] <CShadowRun> I have a packard bell easynote E6100, when i try to boot into LiveCD mode, X starts, the orange background comes up, then it freezes. CD passes integrity check
[14:13] <deany> its default config..... not touched anything.
[14:13] <Chowder> GunbladeIV, I wanted to know how to get the default kernel configs for Ubuntu and how to custom compile the Linux kernel under Ubuntu.
[14:13] <riwa> Chowder: Yeah, but there must be some handler for "failing login" right?
[14:13] <deany> except to test password/pubkey
[14:13] <arvind_khadri> deany, that doesnt matter in your case, as i used to keep single letter passwords while installation
[14:13] <Chowder> riwa, I'm not too sure. That's over my head I'm afraid
[14:14] <sipior> riwa: yes, have a look at the documentation for pluggable authentication modules (PAM)
[14:14] <erUSUL> !kernel | Chowder configs are under /boot/
[14:14] <GunbladeIV> Chowder: try this tutorial http://blog.gunbladeiv.com/2008/05/ubuntu-kernel-2625-on-hardy.html might help you a bit
[14:14] <riwa> sipior: ok, thanks
[14:14] <sky_> how i can set owners to me to new ext3 partition ?
[14:14] <cast> sky_: man chown
[14:14] <sipior> deany: you've verified that you can log in to the machine from the console. do other logins exhibit the same problem?
[14:15] <Chowder> GunbladeIV, thanks. I rolled my own under archlinux but its very different from Ubuntu.
[14:15] <GunbladeIV> yup.. slight differ
[14:15] <archman> unr3a1: everything went smooth, entries removed automatically. I left the last one, just for the case the new doesn't work well ;)
[14:15] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, best way
[14:15] <deany> no... ive setup a virtualbox hardy and that works ok
[14:15] <GunbladeIV> Chowder: actuall current config located in /boot/config`uname -r`
[14:15] <sky_> cast: can you say me correct - > full command ?
[14:15] <archman> Paddy_EIRE: sure! ;)
[14:15] <sipior> deany: was that directed towards me, or?
[14:15] <Chowder> GunbladeIV, got it
[14:15] <unr3a1> archman: awesome.  sweet deal
[14:16] <archman> tnx
[14:16] <unr3a1> np
[14:16] <archman> Paddy_EIRE do you know is the linux-headers safe to remove also?
[14:17] <secti-cmo> help .. who write for enter room ?
[14:17] <unr3a1> archman:  found this...  http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/17/remove-ubuntu-kernels-you-dont-need/
[14:17] <sky_> cast: please
[14:17] <Vonor> sky_, the full command is "man chown" :)
[14:17] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, yes they are
[14:17] <unr3a1> archman: look at the comment left by bubble
[14:17] <Chowder> brb
[14:17] <gldtn> what wireless card that I can possible get for my laptop that is 100% compatible with linux?
[14:17] <secti-cmo> $ ubuntu-br
[14:17] <m3gaman> could someone please tell me how to redirect the output of a termnal command to a txt file?
[14:17] <GunbladeIV> gldtn: compatible in what way?
[14:18] <Pici> m3gaman: command > textfile
[14:18] <riwa> sipior: It refers me to pam_authenticate(3) but I can't find it.
[14:18] <deany> im about to give up on this.. ive got passwordauth enabled, pubkeyauth enabled,  tried enabling/disabling one or the other, not playing.. its like its not even lookin at the config file
[14:18] <Chowder> m3gaman, it would benefit you to read up on BASH
[14:18] <Paddy_EIRE> m3gaman, lspci > lspci.txt
[14:18] <Paddy_EIRE> that kinda thing
[14:18] <unr3a1> archman: and Paddy_EIRE just confirmed it.  removing linux headers is a-ok.
[14:18] <Elmaron> what is the version of the bind dns daemon in the ubuntu repositories?
[14:18] <m3gaman> I will read up on BASH...and thanks for the commands Pici and Paddy_EIRE
[14:18] <Elmaron> bind9?
[14:18] <erUSUL> !info bind9
[14:19] <Elmaron> is that a version where dns poisoning is fixed?
[14:19] <Vonor> sky_, if you need it a little longer: man 1 chown
[14:19] <archman> unr3a1, Paddy_EIRE, ok :)
[14:19] <gldtn> GunbladeIV, pretty much like plug n play.. not having to download restricted drivers, etc..
[14:19] <Paddy_EIRE> cool :)
[14:19] <unr3a1> ;)
[14:19] <Icebuntu> any buddy knows when ubuntu 9.04 is gona be out
[14:19] <Whitor> gldtn, my motorola WN825GP works perfectly for me
[14:19] <sipior> riwa: try "apropos pam"
[14:20] <Chowder> Linux Satori 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Thu Feb 19 08:00:07 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:20] <Chowder> this is the output of `uname -a`. Why does it say SMP? I only have one processor
[14:20] <Pici> Chowder: Do you have a dual core processor?
[14:20] <Whitor> gldtn, so does my motorola wn825g
[14:20] <Chowder> Pici, nope.
[14:20] <GunbladeIV> gldtn: WL230USB is one of supported usb wifi dongle
[14:20] <Pici> Chowder: What about multithreading?
[14:20] <GunbladeIV> gldtn: plug and play since 8.04
[14:21] <Chowder> Pici, its an intel celeron so it probably supports multithreading
[14:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Chowder, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[14:21] <Paddy_EIRE> perhaps
[14:22] <warnet> dewi
[14:22] <archman> Paddy_EIRE, oh, here's the one with -generic in filename, and one without. That one without is 45mb. So which? Both?
[14:22] <GunbladeIV> brb..
[14:22] <gldtn> Whitor, I have a internal broadcom on my father laptop and I can't get it to work.. and they say that the b43-fwcutter for intrepid is broken.. so I gave up on that and don want do try ndiswrapper.. so itś just easier to get a new card
[14:22] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, I typically do a "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> hope that helps
[14:23] <clee-saan> Hi, i'm trying to use PlayOnLinux to install some windows games. The game is in the soft's database, so it's supposed to work. When i start the installation, everything works fine until it asks me to insert the CDs. I inserted both CDs into the drives of my computer, but when i hit "next" it tells me "ERROR: the CD was not detected". Help ?
[14:23] <sky_> ikonia: can you pls say me how i can cahnges owner to me from newest ext3 partition ?
[14:23] <Kuifje111> when i use aptitude search <app> it gives me a list of the found applications, but it doesnt show the version of the app. how do i view the version of the application?
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Kuifje111, apt-cache policy appname
[14:23] <Kuifje111> ok, thanks
[14:24] <archman> Paddy_EIRE, me too, but it didn't list those "older" headers...
[14:25] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, perhaps you should restart to the new kernel
[14:25] <clee-saan> Hi, i'm trying to use PlayOnLinux to install some windows games. The game is in the soft's database, so it's supposed to work. When i start the installation, everything works fine until it asks me to insert the CDs. I inserted both CDs into the drives of my computer, but when i hit "next" it tells me "ERROR: the CD was not detected". Help ?
[14:25] <archman> I did, I'm in new...strange
[14:25] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[14:25] <sipior> clee-saan: you might have better luck taking the issue up with the PlayOnLinux folks
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> clee-saan: or at the very least mentioning what game you're trying to install ;)
[14:26] <sky_> how i can change owner to my newest ex3 partition to me ?
[14:26] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, in synaptic does it list old or obsolete packages under the status
[14:26] <clee-saan> SlimeyPete: Total Annihilation
[14:26] <clee-saan> sipior: where do i find them ?
[14:26] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:26] <silv3r_m00n> can ubuntu use quad code processors fine ?
[14:26] <junior_> does anyone know when the ubuntu home server is comming out? because i just cannot get apache to work so i think im going to get windows home server
[14:26] <Vonor> sky_, the answer is still "man chown"
[14:26] <archman> Paddy_EIRE, no, strange again...
[14:26] <Paddy_EIRE> junior_, no idea when it will be released to be honest
[14:27] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n i'm running ubuntu hardy x64 on my Q6600 (quad core 2.4ghz)
[14:27] <sky_> Vonor: i dont understand this guide :X
[14:27] <Paddy_EIRE> junior_, its also not an official derivitive
[14:27] <archman> Paddy_EIRE, you mean they are maybe being used?
[14:27] <sipior> clee-saan: wherever you downloaded the software from, i guess.
[14:27] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: so does it utilise the full potential of that processor ?
[14:27] <junior_> Paddy_EIRE: ok thanks
[14:27] <Vonor> whats so hard to understand on chown?
[14:27] <clee-saan> sipior: i guess that makes sense
[14:27] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n linux handles multiple processors better than windows does, by a long shot
[14:27] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: and like will it be twice as fast on core 2 duo ?
[14:27] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, very odd.. perhaps you still have packages using them... or that reference them in some way.. this is if you manually installed something
[14:28] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n that's not how multiple cores work
[14:28] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: hmm that I understand
[14:28] <sky_> Vonor: i tried chown root /media disk -1 but it doesnt work
[14:28] <archman> Paddy_ EIRE: may be, yes.
[14:28] <Vonor> sky_, if you had taken a look at the manpage of chown you would have seen it's synopsis
[14:28] <CShadowRun> dual core don't give you "twice as fast" i guess you could say "I can run twice as much"
[14:28] <CShadowRun> unless the program you are running supports multiple cores, but there arn't many around that do
[14:28] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, check for locally installed packages if there are any in synaptic
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: by the way do you know whether windows xp runs on quadcore or not ?
[14:29] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n yes, it does lol
[14:29] <CShadowRun> but ubuntu most definatly does a better job of it
[14:29] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, if you could remove them possibly then clean the old headers.. then reinstall anything you locally installed yourself
[14:30] <archman> Paddy_ EIRE: are those the ones i installed from, e.g.: launchpad? that are not in reps?
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, otherwise I guess you could live with them for now :)
[14:30] <Vonor> sky_, most people in here could probably tell you how to use it correctly, but the learning experience and the feeling of joy after figuring something out on your own is worth more...so we don't spoil your fun :)
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, oh you mean from ppa
[14:30] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: but quad core processors are only 64bit right ?
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[14:30] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n nope.
[14:30] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[14:30] <xiafei> hello
[14:30] <CShadowRun> you only really need a 64bit operating system if you have >= 4GB memory
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, like say you installed something from source or downloaded a .deb and installed that way
[14:30] <silv3r_m00n> anyways will xp 32bit run on quadcore 64bit ?
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> anything like that
[14:30] <sky_> Vonor: please say me correct command -_-
[14:30] <Paddy_EIRE> not ppas dont worry about ppas
[14:30] <kitche> silv3r_m00n: yes but it won't be in 64bit
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> kitche: hmm
[14:31] <Huufarted> Anybody know how to rotate the menus on the gnome panels?  Moved a panel and the "Applications, Places, and System" are all rotated vertically and I want to rotate them back.
[14:31] <xiafei> what can we do ?
[14:31] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n your question doesn't really make sense
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: yeah I understand that
[14:31] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n yes windows xp 32bit will handle a quad core processor, but it won't be 64bit :P
[14:31] <Vonor> sky_, i'll quote you the manpage: synopsis: chown user:group file
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: I just had an assumption so wanted to clarify
[14:32] <CShadowRun> the 64/32bit is only really for addressing large amounts of memory
[14:32] <archman> Paddy_ EIRE: ok, got it. I'll live with those 120 megs :D
[14:32] <Paddy_EIRE> xiafei, not very much without knowing the question ;)
[14:32] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, :)
[14:32] <Huufarted> silv3r_m00n: it will run just fine on a 64 bit CPU, but you won't gain any of the benefits that 64-bit CPUs offer.
[14:32] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: what about big number numericals ?
[14:32] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n yes, 64bit processors can handle larger numbers
[14:32] <silv3r_m00n> big registers can add and multiply bigger numbers I suppose
[14:32] <silv3r_m00n> hmm fine
[14:33] <CShadowRun> (providing you have a 64bit OS, and are programming in 64bit)
[14:33] <magentar> but there are nearly no apps which make use of that fact
[14:33] <morgan> This morning update fucked up the screen resolution, i cannot choose 1280x1024 anymore... anybody had the same problem???
[14:33] <archman> Paddy_ EIRE: but again, does it mean that running those apps with this kernel won't work?
[14:33] <CShadowRun> yup.
[14:33] <Huufarted> !language | morgan
[14:33] <silv3r_m00n> I am thinking of 64bit ubuntu on a 64bit quadcore
[14:33] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, no they will work
[14:33]  * Icebuntu wondering how 128 bit processors would be 
[14:33] <Paddy_EIRE> I will testify to that :)
[14:33] <bazhang> Icebuntu, stop that
[14:34] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n your processor is not 64bit, it merely supports a 64bit operating system :P
[14:34] <morgan> How can this have affected only me??
[14:34] <silv3r_m00n> what ?
[14:34] <sky_> Vonor: i am starting to be angry -_-
[14:34] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: you mean its registers are not 64bit wide ?
[14:34] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n you keep on saying you have a "64bit quad core" ... no you don't
[14:34] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n your processor supports 64bit sure, but that doesn't mean it's called a 64bit quad core :P
[14:34] <Paddy_EIRE> archman, Hey I am going to pop out for a smoke and a cup of tea.. be back in a few mins :)
[14:35] <Vlet> For some time now I've been experiencing long delays when logging into my 8.10 server from one particular machine through ssh and mysql gui tools even after a clean install of the OS on the client machine... What might cause this? From other machines, log-in time is normal.
[14:35] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: oho that I understand
[14:35] <archman> Paddy_EIRE: np :) Thanks for the help
[14:35] <Paddy_EIRE> anytime
[14:35] <morgan> Havent anybody had problem with screen resolution after updating today??
[14:35] <CShadowRun> that's like saying i have a "forwards car" ...it supports going forward? :D
[14:35] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: I shall buy a new one ... currently am on a P4 1.7ghz
[14:35] <Dreamglider> i would like to see ubuntu running on the 8bit 6510 :)
[14:35] <CShadowRun> hehe
[14:35] <Huufarted> morgan, I have not, but I'm only running 1024x768
[14:35] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n but yea, dual/quad core processors have been out for a very long time, you won't have a problem doing whatever you need to on them
[14:36] <scunizi> morgan: nope.. you must be special
[14:36] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: yes .. that's it
[14:36] <CShadowRun> there are 8 core processors on the shelf now, and i belive i heard 128's are in the intel labs.
[14:36] <Huufarted> morgan: sounds like a driver issue to me.
[14:36] <morgan> its is very strange...
[14:36] <Huufarted> Anybody know how to rotate the menu title text on the gnome panels?
[14:36] <Icebuntu> CShadowRun:  they are already out by one of the firms
[14:36] <clee-saan> CShadowRun: 128 core processors ?
[14:37] <CShadowRun> clee-saan yea i think i remember reading an article about it a while back
[14:37] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: 1 thing... since separate processes can take the 4 cores so ideally the system should be nearly 4 times faster if lot of processes are running all the time
[14:37] <kushalone> on a single motherboard?
[14:37] <clee-saan> CShadowRun: that sounds a bit overkill to me
[14:37] <scunizi> !ot
[14:37] <Huufarted> !who | kushalone
[14:37] <magentar> silv3r_m00n, if you are installing ubuntu from scratch, it does not hurt to do a clean 64bit install. if you are using the 32bit version, the only real reason to switch would be if you have 4gigs or more ram.
[14:37] <morgan> hmm, i havent been needed to change configs fro screen resolution in years
[14:37] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n no, very little programs support utilizing multiple cores
[14:37] <morgan> is it called X.org nowadays?
[14:37] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: but what about separate programs on separate cores
[14:38] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n so as i said, your system WILL NOT be twice as fast, but you will be able to run twice as many programs
[14:38] <CShadowRun> yup, now your getting it
[14:38] <Huufarted> CShadowRun: incorrect.  Any multi-threaded programs will utilize multiple cores if necessary
[14:38] <CShadowRun> Huufarted that's what i said
[14:38] <CShadowRun> "very little programs support utilizing multiple cores" - clearly indicating that there are some that do, there just arn't that many of them.
[14:38] <Huufarted> CShadowRun: you said few programs utilize multiple cores and that's untrue
[14:38] <morgan> is there a autoconfiguratio for xorg?
[14:38] <CShadowRun> i can't even think of any programs that support it :P
[14:39] <Huufarted> Most do that have a need to.
[14:39] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: any multithreading application shud be able to do that
[14:39] <CShadowRun> besides a few windows games
[14:39] <magentar> make ;) for instance
[14:39] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n yup
[14:39] <scunizi> morgan: what kind of card do you have?
[14:39] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: so most apps are multithreaded
[14:39] <morgan> nvidia
[14:39] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n i guess thats a matter of opinion really
[14:39] <scunizi> morgan: do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[14:39] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: fine.. not an issue
[14:39] <Huufarted> silv3r_m00n: you've got the idea.  Any multi-threaded app will handle multiple CPUs.
[14:39] <CShadowRun> i think most arn't, some people think most are, i guess it's all down to what programs you actually use.
[14:39] <silv3r_m00n> I have to go to the market and get the price chart
[14:39] <morgan> scunizi, yes!
[14:39] <silv3r_m00n> Huufarted: yeah
[14:40] <n8tuserf> morgan -> try to run dexconf
[14:40] <CShadowRun> silv3r_m00n i love my quad core, i do ALOT of multi tasking :)
[14:40] <scunizi> morgan: use that from terminal with sudo and you should be able to fix things.. xorg doesn't hold the rez info anymore
[14:40] <CShadowRun> I have a head for each one of my cores, haha.
[14:40] <n8tuserf> morgan -> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:40] <morgan> scunizi, yes your riight the nvidia drivers should handle it
[14:40] <silv3r_m00n> CShadowRun: that's good ...
[14:40] <scunizi> morgan: or I should say .. xorg.conf doesn't really hold info on the rez
[14:40] <Huufarted> silv3r_m00n: there's no downside to going with multiple cores.  Your system will be able to handle more programs open at the same time, but individual programs themselves more than likely will not improve in performance.
[14:40] <silv3r_m00n> Huufarted: hmm
[14:40] <Icebuntu> CShadowRun:  have you heard about fusion processor from AMD
[14:40] <CShadowRun> yup, that's right
[14:40] <CShadowRun> Icebuntu nope
[14:41] <Huufarted> silv3r_m00n:
[14:41] <waylandbill> does anyone know if vim's bell can be disabled completely (i.e. no visual bell either) ?
[14:41] <scunizi> !ot | CShadowRun Icebuntu
[14:41] <silv3r_m00n> Huufarted: but I understand that any multitasking app will be faster as well
[14:41] <Icebuntu> CShadowRun:  it has a gpu core and a cpu core in a single processor okey scunizi
[14:41] <Huufarted> silv3r_m00n: If you run tons of programs, you will get a large performance increase across the board.
[14:42] <Icebuntu> CShadowRun:  come to ﻿#ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <silv3r_m00n> Huufarted: that's good performance for now
[14:42] <Huufarted> silv3r_m00n: if you run one very heavy single threaded app on a single core and the same app on a multi-core, you won't see a performance increase
[14:42] <sipior> waylandbill: try ":set vb t_vb="
[14:43] <waylandbill> sipior, that's it. into the .vimrc it goes. thanks.
[14:43] <Huufarted> silv3r_m00n: we are getting really really off topic here.  I think we should taper the CPU conversation in this channel.
[14:45] <Vlet> For some time now I've been experiencing long delays when logging into my 8.10 server from one particular machine through ssh and mysql gui tools even after a clean install of the OS on the client machine... What might cause this? From other machines, log-in time is normal.
[14:45] <Huufarted> Vlet: bad routes on the machine.
[14:45] <waylandbill> Vlet, probably the sshd is performing a lookup of your hostname.
[14:45] <Vlet> Huufarted: routes on the server machine?
[14:45] <Huufarted> Vlet: or what he said.  :)  Both could cause it.  How much of a delay are we talking?
[14:46] <Huufarted> Vlet: correct.  Possibly on the client machine, but I've mostly seen it on servers.
[14:46] <Vlet> Huufarted: mmm... 10, 15 seconds
[14:46] <Huufarted> Vlet: yeah, I've seen routing issues take that long.  Are the PCs on different subnets?  Are they internal on a LAN?
[14:46] <Vlet> Huufarted: 100mbit lan
[14:47] <Vlet> Huufarted: where if I log in from home via cable, it's quick as hell
[14:47] <waylandbill> Vlet, it couldn't hurt to add your hostname to the hosts file on the server machine. If that was the problem, it should cure it. If not, it doesn't hurt.
[14:47] <Vlet> waylandbill: I'll give it a try :)
[14:47] <Huufarted> Vlet: so internal on the LAN the login times are 15 seconds or so?
[14:47] <Kissaki> my window header will disappear at times http://kcode.mine.nu/shot.jpg functionality will remain though, and it reappears just as randomly but pretty fast again. ???
[14:48] <TgWaKu> Hi, i've made a unetbootin usb stick and it didn't work. Anyone know why?
[14:48] <Huufarted> Vlet: but the logins from home are immediate?
[14:48] <Vlet> Huufarted: but only from my workstation, upon which windows was just reinstalled... in other words, only from one IP.. other test machines the login is proper
[14:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Kissaki, emerald is buggy and is being phased out
[14:48] <Whitor>  Hi. I'm trying to get a pcmcia 2 port serial card working. Is anyone familiar with the setserial command?  (or the startech cb2s650 serial card?) I've found the I/O ranges for the two ports with lspci -v  ... I just don't know how to assign these to ttyS's any ideas ?
[14:48] <Kissaki> Paddy_EIRE: what's emerald?
[14:49] <Paddy_EIRE> the fancy window decorator
[14:49] <Kissaki> ah, ok
[14:49] <waylandbill> Huufarted, Vlet, That would make sense. It would be able to do a lookup for a WAN just fine and not be able to do one unless there was a BIND or other DNS to provide info for the LAN computers.
[14:49] <Paddy_EIRE> if you dont know what it is then you are probably not using it
[14:49] <Kissaki> is it fixed yet but not in repo? Or not fixed yet?
[14:49] <unr3a1> Paddy_EIRE, lol
[14:49] <Paddy_EIRE> so that would be an odd problem
[14:49] <TgWaKu> Hi, i've made a unetbootin usb stick and it didn't work. Anyone know why?
[14:50] <sipior> TgWaKu: that's a bit like saying "my car won't start, anyone know why?" we'll need a lot more information, including how you set things up, and what sort of error messages you get.
[14:50] <Huufarted> Vlet: What's the IP address of the LAN machine?  Also paste the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf on the server
[14:50] <unr3a1> TgWaKu, can you be more specific?  is your BIOS just bypassing the device during boot, or are you getting an error when trying to boot to it?
[14:50] <Huufarted> Vlet: I don't think there's an issue with the resolv.conf, but might as well check.  I think waylandbill had a great idea with the hostname for that client in the hosts file
[14:51] <TgWaKu> no error messages, i downloaded ubuntu 8.10 through unetbootin and it extracted etc and put it on my usb stick. and asked me to reboot. so i did and the live menu did not show. it just booted straight into windows
[14:51] <Vlet> Huufarted: Server: 18.150.1.183 Client: 18.150.7.2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/133067/
[14:52] <storbeck> TgWaKu: Change your BIOS to boot from usb
[14:52] <unr3a1> TgWaKu, you gotta make sure that your BIOS can boot from usb, and you gotta make the usb stick bootable
[14:52] <Vlet> Huufarted: LAN-ish.... MIT's own 64th of the internet ;)
[14:52] <ranim> .
[14:52] <TgWaKu> ok thanks, i'll give it a try
[14:52] <Whitor> Is there a link where I can post my lspci -v for consideration for future hardware support?
[14:52] <kiru__> hello
[14:52] <storbeck> Whitor: pastebin
[14:52] <kiru__> I want to route vpn through vpn
[14:53] <Huufarted> Vlet: understood.  I would first try adding the hostname into the hosts file like waylandbill suggested.
[14:53] <Whitor> storbeck, no... I mean for the developers... not for his channel
[14:53] <kiru__> my interface to the internet is ppp0 and i want to reach a certain host over tun0
[14:53] <kiru__> my routing table looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/133052/
[14:53] <Huufarted> Vlet:  how are other connections to that server?  http?  ssh?  etc?
[14:53] <Whitor> storbeck, I saw something about this on digg a few weeks ago
[14:53] <Vlet> Huufarted: would sshd need to be restarted for changes prop?
[14:53] <Huufarted> Vlet: no I wouldn't think so, but it wouldn't hurt.
[14:53] <Vlet> Huufarted: that's the curious thing; http/smb is just great
[14:54] <ranim> hi,I'm new in linux & i search for a good (WYSIWYG) web page creator
[14:54] <Huufarted> Vlet: go ahead and try adding that to the hosts file
[14:54] <storbeck> ranim: Nvu
[14:54] <DJones> !kompozer | ranim
[14:54] <_> kompozer
[14:54] <rbd> anyone have an opinion of using dist-upgrade on production servers to upgrade to the newest kernel revs for intrepid? safe or not safe?
[14:55] <Jeruvy> rdb: it's never recommended to 'upgrade'.
[14:55] <sipior> rbd: on production servers? ehh...if you've got a test one lying around, maybe...
[14:55] <Vlet> Huufarted: yep, that did it... interesting
[14:55] <xxx_> film
[14:56] <sipior> rbd: unless you really need some new functionality, i wouldn't bother too much.
[14:56] <n8tuserf> rbd -> you have a new resume ready?
[14:56] <Paddy_EIRE> xxx_, what?
[14:56] <Vlet> Huufarted: so maybe my nameserver hates me =D
[14:56] <ranim> yeah, i know kompozer but there is a probleme when i try to integrate picture or jut ponting in the view menu, Kompozer close auto
[14:56] <storbeck> lol @ n8tuserf
[14:56] <Kissaki> Instead of sound alerts ubuntu uses the speakers. Other sounds (logon etc) work fine. Any fix for that?
[14:56] <Huufarted> Vlet: that's possible.  ;P  I'm going to guess that the nameserver didn't have an entry for that address
[14:56] <Kissaki> Instead of sound alerts ubuntu uses the PC speaker. Other sounds (logon etc) work fine. Any fix for that?
[14:56] <n8tuserf> storbeck -> its true, if you screw up a production with an upgrade like that, you better have a resume` ready
[14:57] <Huufarted> Vlet: I think more the issue was after polling all of the name servers, it would give up and that's when you got your connection.
[14:57] <Vlet> Huufarted: yeah. I think I'm going to turn off name resolution in sshd/mysqld for safety sake. Thank you so much for your help. This has been bugging me for weeks and I've just never bothered to try to fix it :)
[14:58] <Vlet> Huufarted: yeah, it seemed like something had to time out before it would allow me in... I thought it might have been krb5, but I already disabled it to try to resolve this
[14:58] <Huufarted> Vlet: my pleasure.  :)
[14:58] <Whitor> Has anyone used a startech CB2S650 serial port card in ubuntu?  I'm having trouble getting mine to work.
[14:58] <Elmaron> I just added a user using "useradd"
[14:58] <Elmaron> but when trying to run a program using that user by typing "sudo -u user ./program", it says no passwd entry
[14:59] <Huufarted> Vlet: the only times I've seen disgusting login times like that are routing issues (bad default route usually so it doesn't know how to make the return trip) or name resolution issues.
[14:59] <ranim> gays, any one can help me in this problem ?
[14:59] <Dreamglider> !grub > Dreamglider
[14:59] <Elmaron> arghs I just mistyped the user name I just recognised :p
[14:59] <Huufarted> Vlet: glad you got it figured out.
[14:59] <Paddy_EIRE> ranim, gays!!!
[14:59] <Paddy_EIRE> ranim, hope that was accidental
[14:59] <waylandbill> Huufarted, the thing about bad routes though that would make it obvious is that there is usually a delay even after login.
[14:59] <jimdb_> Elmaron: Uss to sudo users list. Google it
[15:00] <sky_> how i can set owners to me from newest ext3 partition ? :(
[15:00] <sky_> correct command pls
[15:00] <Huufarted> waylandbill: incorrect.  I connect to about 160 of my company's customers via telnet (over VPN) or ssh and it's only the login process itself that's affected like that
[15:00] <jimdb_> Add*
[15:00] <Huufarted> waylandbill: logic dictates you are correct, but I don't see that.
[15:00] <ranim> oh,sorry
[15:00] <waylandbill> Huufarted, interesting.
[15:01] <theangryamoeba> Can anyone recommend a good wireless card for creating an access point?
[15:01] <onats> hi, what is the best flash player plugin for firefox on ubuntu 8.10 64 bit?
[15:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ranim, no idea mate I dont use kompozer
[15:01] <Picassotamus> !best | onats
[15:01] <onats> opera plays flash videos just fine
[15:01] <Huufarted-AFK> later, guys.  Got a meeting to go to
[15:01] <Paddy_EIRE> later man
[15:01] <sky_> please
[15:01] <nado> hi
[15:01] <xiafei> ?
[15:01] <sipior> sky_: what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !patience | sky_
[15:02] <sky_> sipior: i want set owner to me for my ext3 partition
[15:02] <Dreamglider> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[15:02] <Dreamglider> oops wrong window
[15:02] <root> test
[15:02] <ranim> paddy_EIRE, its the xchat spelling correction,its the first time that i use  it
[15:02] <sipior> sky_: why not simply create a directory in that filesystem, and make yourself the owner?
[15:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ranim, I use it.. not done that with me hehe
[15:02] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[15:03] <Guest5779> hello all
[15:03] <sky_> sipior: i cannot make, copy, there nothing
[15:03] <sipior> sky_: you can via sudo, i'm sure
[15:03] <recession-killed> Hi I have been having this problem with the time on the panel. It's 1 hour behind. I think due to daylight savings. No matter how many times I change it, whenever i restart my computer the time is always 1 hr behind, I have this same problem in windows. So I am guessing it's not a Ubuntu issue.. but does anyone know the fix?
[15:03] <sipior> sky_: sudo mkdir /mnt/foo/bar
[15:03] <Guest5779> Does anybody have work with asterisk server? Need  help!
[15:03] <Paddy_EIRE> recession-killed, in your bios?
[15:04] <Paddy_EIRE> internal clock
[15:04] <jimdb_> sky_: Cant set owner on a partition ir file system. Only on filed and folders
[15:04] <recession-killed> Do I have to go in the Bios?
[15:04] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I got this wusb54gcsv2 that I tried to ndis the win drivers for it and no dice tried the -a to assign it and still no dice. I also have a v1 of the same nic that does work on my boxes and tried the v1 set of drivers and still nothing. Anybody have any luck with these nics? Cant find much of anything on the net on it either.
[15:04] <recession-killed> the time as in calendar clock
[15:04] <Kissaki> Instead of sound alerts ubuntu uses the PC speaker. Other sounds (logon etc) work fine. Any fix for that?
[15:04] <Paddy_EIRE> sky_, you can create a folder on that partition as root then set permissions to you that way
[15:04] <recession-killed> its always 1 hr back
[15:04] <Paddy_EIRE> recession-killed, I know what you mean
[15:04] <Kiaas> does comcast throttle the ubuntu updates?
[15:05] <Kiaas> or repos?
[15:05] <luna> Anyone have trouble with touchpads in 9.04?
[15:05] <Paddy_EIRE> recession-killed, same thing still stands
[15:05] <cast> Kissaki: blacklisting the pcspr[maybe?] module is how i kill the damned beeping thing
[15:05] <kitche> Kiaas: comcast throttles the whole net for it's users
[15:05] <register> test
[15:05] <Kiaas> Have a comcast connection at the school. I can download from MS's site at 90-600KB/s, however, ubuntu updates are 200bytes- 10Kbytes.
[15:06] <ranim> any one know a good WYSIWYG ( web ) else Kompozer or a solution for Kompozer that close automaticly
[15:06] <Kissaki> cast: will that enable the sound alert? or just disable alert in whole?
[15:06] <Kiaas> so this 88MB of updates are going to take 19hours
[15:06] <cast> Kissaki: it'll disable the motherboard speaker
[15:06] <jimdb_> Kiaas: Have to consider all the machines between you and the server
[15:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Kiaas, choose a faster mirror
[15:06] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[15:07] <Kissaki> cast: will it use the sound file then? :) or just not play any sound/speaker/note at all?
[15:07] <Borg7-9> is there a easy way to connect ti WI-FI like auto detect
[15:07] <Kiaas> I'm on xubuntu, and I have a proxy available, which I can use to download at 10-30KB/s. I don't see anything to choose the system proxy...
[15:07] <cast> Kissaki: the later
[15:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Borg7-9, providing your hardware is installed
[15:08] <Kissaki> cast: thx
[15:08] <Kissaki> cast: but you can disable it like that in the sound options as well, so I'll do that
[15:08] <Borg7-9> Paddy_EIRE i dont understand
[15:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Borg7-9, providing your wireless network card is installed
[15:08] <Paddy_EIRE> as in.. is it installed
[15:09] <WeazelON> hey guys, does someone know, how do I input a command with a sleep like option for entering like "ssh x.x.x.x" and then wait 4 seconds and then type password ?
[15:09] <bezibaerchen> WeazelON: expect
[15:09] <storbeck> Expect is a bad idea.
[15:10] <Squarc> Hey people I have a problem; in a terminal (Konsole for instance) or in a clean session (just that black white linux command line you get when doing ctrl+alt+F1) my up and down keys dont work properly, left writes ^[[C and right writes ^[[D  ... neither are my home, end and del keys working proberly.. (they just write: ^[[1~ ^[[4~ ^[[3~).. Dous anyone have any advice for me please? I googled a lot bout it.. but google filters special char's
[15:10] <jk7> test
[15:10] <WeazelON> whats expect ?
[15:10] <cast> WeazelON: you know about ssh keys?
[15:10] <Paddy_EIRE> WeazelON, type "man sleep"
[15:10] <bezibaerchen> storbeck: on every hand its a bad idea to include a pw in a script....
[15:10] <Paddy_EIRE> or use ssh keys
[15:10] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[15:10] <WeazelON> kinda noob about bash ><
[15:10] <riddley> anyone have a PPA with mutt built against openssl instead of gnutls?
[15:10] <Paddy_EIRE> jk7, could you knock that off
[15:10] <storbeck> bezibaerchen: That's why you should use ssh keys
[15:11] <bezibaerchen> storbeck: never disagreed with that...
[15:11] <WeazelON> no idea whats that...
[15:11] <Kiaas> I had a burst on the updates at 60KB/s a second ago, then it dropped back to 681Bytes/s... I get the feeling something is wrong here
[15:11] <kushalone> thank you, Huufarted-AFK
[15:11] <storbeck> lol @ 681b/s
[15:11] <Kiaas> 451B/s right now
[15:12] <ranim> I need the conio.h library (clrscr,gotoxy.......) but i cant found it in linux any other similar library please?
[15:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Kiaas, is that your connection speed in general... or have you choosen a better mirror yet
[15:12] <Kiaas> Oh, yay..over 1KB/s again...nvm
[15:12] <Kiaas> Paddy: I can download from ms's site at 97KB/s
[15:12] <Kiaas> At the very least
[15:12] <storbeck> ranim: Use ncurses
[15:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Kiaas, well as I said..
[15:12] <Kiaas> Internet connection speed is 2MB Cable, comcast
[15:13] <Paddy_EIRE> choose a faster mirror
[15:13] <Paddy_EIRE> problem solved
[15:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Kiaas, "System > Administration > Software Sources" then you can navigate to your mirrors from there and also get it to automatically choose the fastest for you
[15:14] <ranim> haw can i use ncurses?
[15:14] <Paddy_EIRE> ranim, huh?
[15:14] <Paddy_EIRE> be more specific
[15:15] <cast> ranim: by reading a book with a ncurses chapter
[15:15] <Paddy_EIRE> heh
[15:15] <^shakia^> hai
[15:15] <paul_fox> hi all
[15:15] <Squarc> can someone please help me ?
[15:15] <^shakia^> hai
[15:15] <ranim> :) I'm from windows world, so i'm not expert in linux and his lib
[15:16] <Icebuntu> Squarc:  ya say
[15:16] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | Squarc
[15:16] <alaa> help to rotate screen in hp tx2000 ubuntu 8.10?
[15:16] <bredoto> paul_fox, what?
[15:16] <ranim> so where i can found this book <ncurses>?
[15:17] <Paddy_EIRE> alaa, you should do some research before coming here http://mirosol.kapsi.fi/tx2020/tx2000howto.htm
[15:17] <genii> ranim: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NCURSES-Programming-HOWTO/
[15:17] <Paddy_EIRE> first google result upon searching for "rotate screen hp tx2000" alaa
[15:18] <ranim> genii, thank you :)
[15:18] <alaa> Paddy_EIRE: do you use it and work with this page?/
[15:18] <paul_fox> bredoto, where to find asterisk now?
[15:18] <Paddy_EIRE> alaa, have you tried the instructions I gave you?
[15:19] <alaa> i use this page and do all the steps
[15:19] <alaa> the result is the rotate screen not work
[15:19] <paul_fox> where to get good irc commands tutorial?
[15:19] <Paddy_EIRE> alaa, let me check the repsonses on that page
[15:19] <Paddy_EIRE> *responses
[15:20] <paul_fox> hm
[15:20] <Paddy_EIRE> alaa, you have tried the rotation script here http://mirosol.kapsi.fi/tx2020/rotation.sh.txt
[15:20] <alaa> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[15:21] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[15:21] <deww> paul_fox: what irc client are you using? perhaps the channel named after your irc client or the official website of it
[15:21] <bredoto> Does anybody work with Asterisk?
[15:21] <Thalo> hey there, I've a laptop with a radeon hd2300 and I'm using the official ati driver.  Everytime I switch powerstates, I get screen corruption.  Any Ideas?
[15:21] <recession-killed> paddy_EIRE: I changed the system clock in Bios but the ubuntu clock is still 1 hr back, however it did change the clock for my windows partition.
[15:21] <LjL> The servers are currently netsplit, please bear with them.
[15:22] <Paddy_EIRE> recession-killed, now you can adjust the ubuntu clock and hope it sticks after a reboot
[15:22] <Kiaas> I think that option was buried rather deep in menus.. found it though. Also, do I have to cancel the currently running updater which has been running since 8:00 am this morning, that's about 40% complete? or is it dynamic enough to just load them after the current file finishes?
[15:22] <paul_fox> deww, irrsi!
[15:22] <WeazelON> bredoto, i work with asterisk
[15:22] <Paddy_EIRE> recession-killed, let me know how you get on mate
[15:22] <recession-killed> yeah I have rebooted it a couple of times.
[15:23] <recession-killed> I don't understand it
[15:23] <kitche> paul_fox: there's not much you need to know about irc really besides /server /connect /join /part /query and /msg really
[15:23] <kitche> paul_fox: oh yeah /ignore as well
[15:23] <Kiaas> how to login with your run of the mill Nickserv is nice, too
[15:23] <CarmenRain> problema con second life
[15:23] <bredoto> WeazelON, what GUI are you using?
[15:23] <sky_> hi
[15:23] <sky_> i have 2 partitions
[15:24] <WeazelON> Freepbx
[15:24] <sky_> 1 is 250 GB ext3 and second is 20GB ext3
[15:24] <WeazelON> but using it on a gentoo OS if ur question is for ubuntu
[15:24] <paul_fox> kitche,=)
[15:24] <sky_> and i want to make one big 270 ext3
[15:24] <CarmenRain> can anybody help me with second life please?
[15:25] <sky_> CarmenRain: game ?
[15:25] <CarmenRain> yes
[15:26] <Kiaas> Paddy_EIRE: Set it to use "best server" it chose one. Do I have to shut down the update manager and restart it or is it dynamic enough to use the new mirror for the next file it starts?
[15:26] <sky_> CarmenRain: i think its question for wine ?
[15:26] <CarmenRain> no
[15:26] <paul_fox> kitche, in my /usr/share/irssi/help -there are a lot of commands descriptions
[15:26] <CarmenRain> it's about the new release of second life
[15:26] <kitche> paul_fox: yes most of those are for the client tough
[15:26] <paul_fox> kitche, but i prefere some tutorial with examples
[15:26] <kitche> CarmenRain: well second life is a bit of a game but what do you need help with
[15:27] <Kiaas> paul_fox: irssi has more commands than IRC standards... for the client's options.
[15:27] <Paddy_EIRE> Kiaas, yeah its dynamic enough
[15:27] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[15:27] <bredoto> WeazelON, what GUI for Asterisk are you using?
[15:27] <Kiaas> good :)
[15:27] <CarmenRain> I downloaded the new release, it works, but I don't know how to cancel the old release on my desktop and I don't know how to put its icon on the new file
[15:27] <geirha> sky_: Is there enough space available on the 250G to copy the contents of the 20G?
[15:28] <paul_fox> i am new to iRC
[15:28] <sky_> geirha: no they are empty partitions and i want make one big 270 GB partition
[15:28] <mun> hi
[15:28] <kitche> paul_fox: just google irc commands and you'll find a whole page but do you have a ubuntu specific question?
[15:28] <mun> does anyone know how to check where a command points to?
[15:28] <Squarc> Hey people I have a problem; in a terminal (Konsole for instance) or in a clean session (just that black white linux command line you get when doing ctrl+alt+F1) my up and down keys dont work properly, left writes ^[[C and right writes ^[[D  ... neither are my home, end and del keys working proberly.. (they just write: ^[[1~ ^[[4~ ^[[3~).. Dous anyone have any advice for me please? I googled a lot bout it.. but google filters special char's
[15:28] <kitche> mun: what do you mean where a command points to?
[15:29] <geirha> sky_: Then run gparted, remove the 20G partition and resize the 250G to 270G
[15:29] <sipior> mun: "which <command>"
[15:29] <paul_fox> kitche, no thanks
[15:29] <sipior> mun: if i understand you correctly
[15:29] <Abracadabra> Hi
[15:29] <Abracadabra> how do list all the installed packages ?
[15:30] <sipior> Abracadabra: dpkg -l
[15:30] <sky_> geirha: how remove ?
[15:30] <paul_fox> abracadabra, dpkg --list
[15:30] <sky_> geirha: you mean delete ?
[15:30] <Abracadabra> and how do you launch an installed application from gnome once installed ?
[15:31] <Thalo> hey there, I've a laptop with a radeon hd2300 and I'm using the official ati driver.  Everytime I switch powerstates, I get screen corruption.  Any Ideas?
[15:31] <geirha> !gparted | sky_
[15:31] <kushalone> Hello, could anyone please direct me to the channel for intel macbooks 1,1? thanks
[15:31] <geirha> sky_: Yes, remove, delete, same meaning.
[15:31] <mun> sipior, i thought so too. but when i tried, e.g., foo --version i get 6.8, but which foo gives me /usr/local/bin/foo but the version of that is 6.10
[15:31] <Paddy_EIRE> alaa, any other sources of info perhaps I can look at for you?
[15:32] <kitche> mun: make sure /usr/local/bin is in head of /usr/bin and the others
[15:32] <kitche> mun: in your $PATH
[15:32] <sipior> mun: do you have an alias set for foo?
[15:32] <Abracadabra> the installed software doesn't create a link in the drop-down menu
[15:32] <remoteCTRL2> can anyone recommend me a grafical interface for openvpn client?
[15:32] <KaptenRodSkagg> anyone here good at rsync & gadmin?   i need to excl some files in my backup but cant find where... ?
[15:33] <sky_> geirha: i delete it but i cant make 250 GB partition bigger !
[15:33] <nk_miling> hehe
[15:33] <mun> kitche, but doesn't which return where the command points to, despite the ordering of the paths in $PATH?
[15:33] <mun> sipior, no, there's no alias set.
[15:33] <kitche> mun: yes but commands are  used depending on their position
[15:33] <geirha> sky_: Are there any partitions on the drive still mounted?
[15:33] <sky_> yes
[15:34] <sipior> mun: try "which -a foo" and see what happens
[15:34] <sky_> geirha: now ..mounted is only system partition
[15:34] <kitche> sky_: the 20gb had to be behind the 250 gb partition to expand to 270gb
[15:34] <mun> kitche, but what should which return?
[15:34] <geirha> sky_: All partitions on the drive must be unmounted in order to resize a partition on the drive.
[15:34] <sipior> mun: and be sure to specify /usr/bin/which
[15:34] <mun> sipior, i get /usr/local/bin/foo and /usr/bin/foo
[15:34] <geirha> sky_: if a system partition is on it, you'll need to boot the ubuntu CD and do the resize from there
[15:35] <sky_> geirha: omg it suxx
[15:35] <mun> and the one in /usr/bin is of version 6.8
[15:35] <boin> hi...I need help
[15:35] <kitche> mun: try this where foo or whereis
[15:35] <mun> but /usr/local/bin precedes /usr/bin in my $PATH
[15:36] <Thalo> remoteCTRL2: kvpn, though it is a little twitchy
[15:36] <sky_> geirha: exist some USB version of ubuntu from which i can resize it ?
[15:36] <Akkernight> how do I run Code::Blocks in sudo ?
[15:36] <boin> can someone help me?
[15:36] <bredoto> boid, what?
[15:36] <nk_miling> tian
[15:36] <geirha> sky_: you can turn a liveCD image into a liveUSB, so yes.
[15:36] <bredoto> boin, what?
[15:36] <kitche> mun: did you reload the config file if you changed it?
[15:36] <tc111> !ask|boin
[15:36] <mun> kitche, right, i get /usr/bin/foo and /usr/local/bin/foo
[15:36] <sky_> geirha: how ? just copy it to usb M
[15:37] <geirha> !usb | sky
[15:37] <mun> kitche, i guess i'll just leave it and make the one in /usr/bin point to the newer version
[15:37] <mun> thanks a lot
[15:37] <neko> someone I need help
[15:37] <Akkernight> how do I run code::blocks through the terminal?
[15:37] <neko> hello
[15:37] <neko> hi :)
[15:38] <neko> I need help... I can't install ubuntu 8.04 & 8.10 in my computer
[15:39] <Paddy_EIRE> neko, gonna need more info than "cant" mate ;)
[15:39] <tc111> neko: what is your machine... definitely need more info...
[15:39] <neko> i can use live cd... but i can't install
[15:39] <Paddy_EIRE> well.. what happens
[15:39] <Paddy_EIRE> neko, explain in detail please
[15:40] <neko> my comp is ECS K8M800-M2 AMD Sempron 2600+
[15:40] <o0Chris0o> how do I change back the default colors of ubuntu? I was using gnome color chooser and didn't like what I had, I tried to default back, but I couldn't find any way, so I uninstalled it thinking it would bring back the default colorss..
[15:40] <Paddy_EIRE> otherwise this is like an interrogation neko
[15:40] <neko> my hdd 40 GB
[15:40] <Akkernight> what's the terminal command to copy a folder to another folder?
[15:40] <kokou_> hello, pls I have dome some settings and I did apache2 restart up to now,I havenot yet seen apache working on ubuntu server
[15:40] <kokou_> what do I do?
[15:40] <cast> Akkernight: man cp
[15:40] <Paddy_EIRE> neko, all on one line and say what happens.. errors anything
[15:40] <tc111> neko: is there another OS on this machine?
[15:40] <Thalo> Akkernight: cp -r /folder destination
[15:40] <billyk> is there an alternative to pc anywhere for linux? (like vnc but without having to set up port forwarding in a router to get to a machine behind a router)
[15:41] <bredoto> kokou_, you apach didnt word?
[15:41] <neko> in proses copying always error "faulty copy files..bla..bla."
[15:41] <Paddy_EIRE> !vnc | billyk
[15:41] <bredoto> kokou_, your apach didnt word?
[15:41] <dingxin> who
[15:41] <kokou_> yes,
[15:41] <kokou_> I restarted it
[15:41] <kokou_> and up to now, still not on
[15:41] <Keaton> Mornin', #Ubuntu.
[15:41] <dingxin> hao
[15:41] <tc111> neko: did you run a cd check to verify the cd is not corrupt?
[15:41] <dingxin> where are you
[15:41] <neko> yup..my cd is good
[15:41] <Paddy_EIRE> neko, perhaps the cd/download you are using is corrupt
[15:42] <billyk> Paddy_EIRE: no, vnc doesnt start an outbound connection so you'd need port forwarding on an edge device to get to a remote machine.  I've used VNC plenty of times...
[15:42] <Paddy_EIRE> neko, did you verify the image
[15:42] <neko> because...i install in other computer..can complete
[15:42] <bredoto> kokou_, try netstat -tupan|grep 80. does apach listen on  port 80?
[15:42] <rtx3462> billyk: use x11vnc with the -connect option on the machine behind the router. so x11vnc will connect to the vncviewer running with -listen option.
[15:42] <Paddy_EIRE> billyk, no pc anywhere is for windows
[15:42] <Keaton> Does anyone know where the "Session" program in Preferences saves it's configuration to?
[15:42] <neko> may ubuntu can't support my machine
[15:43] <billyk> Paddy_EIRE: actually its for linux too now.  but I was wondering if there was a free alternative.  you're making too many assumptions :-p
[15:43] <Paddy_EIRE> neko, how do you know the cd is good?
[15:43] <Paddy_EIRE> did you verify the image neko
[15:43] <neko> because..I install in other machine is completed
[15:43] <neko> same CD
[15:43] <Paddy_EIRE> billyk, the linux version is somewhat lacklustre
[15:43] <eugo> ok so i downloaded and burned the ibex (8.10) live cd, fired it up on my pc, wanted to connect to my wireless and went to find the wireless manager but after searching for some time i never found it
[15:44] <eugo> why cant i find the wireless manager?
[15:44] <billyk> ok.  rtx3462 that sounds like what I'm looking for.  can the viewer have multiple simultaneous inbound connections?
[15:44] <bredoto> kokou_, test your config param using apache2ctl configtest
[15:44] <tc111> neko: is your hd clean? have you run a memtest? both to verify that your hardware is functioning properly.
[15:44] <kiru__> could anyone help me with routing tables?
[15:44] <sipior> eugo: do you mean Network Manager?
[15:44] <eugo> yeah
[15:45] <kiru__> need support for vpn connection
[15:45] <rtx3462> billyk: no, but you can start more than one viewer
[15:45] <kiru__> pls query
[15:45] <kokou_> bredoto: nothing comes, it went on the new line after typing it
[15:45] <billyk> ok.  would each server have to -connect on a different port then?
[15:45] <rtx3462> billyk: yes
[15:45] <bredoto> kokou_, after netstat ot apache2ctl?
[15:45] <bredoto> kokou_, after netstat or apache2ctl?
[15:45] <kokou_> netstat
[15:46] <bredoto> kokou_, netstat -tupan|grep 80
[15:46] <billyk> rtx3462: thanks :-)
[15:46] <eugo> i guess i found the network manager application where it lists my eth connections as well as any vpn or dsl connections, but i cant find the application where it searches for wireless networks
[15:46] <Paddy_EIRE> billyk, that guide I sent to begin with explains that.. now who is making assumptions :)
[15:47] <sipior> eugo: if the wireless device was detected and initialised, it should be in that list already.
[15:47] <billyk> Paddy_EIRE: ouch.  haha
[15:47] <kokou_> netstat -tupan|grep 80
[15:47] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[15:47] <rtx3462> billyk: btw, reading the manpage of x11vnc takes time, but it's really worth it
[15:47] <kokou_> it comes with no response
[15:47] <kokou_> bredoto:
[15:48] <kokou_> I type and press enter, new line with th shell user acc,
[15:48] <tallyn> can anyone tell me what generate mipmaps means?
[15:48] <bredoto> try apache2ctl configtest - to test your config files
[15:48] <eugo> sipior yeah there was a wireless tab where i could Add a wireless connection, but i had to specify the SSID, it couldn't search for me
[15:50] <Paddy_EIRE> billyk, ah you where right.. they have updated PC Anywhere.. pretty cool :)
[15:50] <funkja> is it possible to write to an hfs+ partition in Ubuntu?
[15:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !hfs
[15:51] <Bdg_m_20_champio> Any body frm Indonesia???
[15:51] <bazhang> !id
[15:51] <funkja> thanks
[15:52] <rkvirani> Ubuntu is holding packages back when I upgrade, how do I prevent this?
[15:52] <bredoto> Need help in Asterisk in  ubuntu. When i try to call for a number yyyy on server i resive an error message:"reject connect attempt from xx.xx.xx.xx request yyy@default does not exist "
[15:52] <funkja> !NTFS-3g
[15:52] <Paddy_EIRE> rkvirani, do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[15:52] <funkja> !FUSE
[15:53] <rkvirani> Paddy_EIRE: thanks!
[15:53] <rkvirani> Must be 9.04 alpha 5
[15:53] <cdecarlo> whats the easiest way, from the command line, to find out how much space the /home directory is taking up
[15:53] <o0Chris0o> how do I upload to beta jaunty?
[15:53] <Paddy_EIRE> cdecarlo, umm.. try "df -h" I think
[15:53] <o0Chris0o> err upgrade :(
[15:54] <Myrtti> cdecarlo: du -sh ~/
[15:54] <cast> cdecarlo: du -sh /home will be closish
[15:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !jaunty
[15:54] <LjL> cdecarlo: du -h -s /home
[15:54] <Myrtti> oh, /home, not $HOME
[15:54] <Myrtti> my bad
[15:54] <blip-> hi,  anyone know how to enable the "experimental" repos on Hardy ?    I heard that KDE4.2 is inside there
[15:54] <Paddy_EIRE> LjL ha.. I new I was wrong :P
[15:54] <Paddy_EIRE> *knew
[15:54] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[15:55] <cdecarlo> thanks to all
[15:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !kde | blip-
[15:57] <{bosco}> anyone know of a good site (how to ) to make it so users on my server can only view there own home dir and nothing else so they cant {cd} outsite of it???
[15:58] <ldlework> Why does this http://ldlework.com/wiki/processing run slow as balls on Ubuntu but is blazing fast on windows and macOSX???? Is Ubuntu JS just slower, end of story?
[15:59] <Paddy_EIRE> ldlework, watch the language mate
[15:59] <LjL> ldlework: just what runs slow again?
[15:59] <ldlework> Paddy_EIRE, balls?
[15:59] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah.. knock it off
[16:00] <afreq> nice name for your canvas ;)
[16:00] <afreq> seems to work fine for me
[16:00] <tallyn> idlework, I'm having no problems running that link on ubuntu over here
[16:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ldlework, I dont know mate.. works fine here too
[16:03] <ldlework> Are you guys running Intrepid, with Firefox?
[16:03] <ldlework> Or someother combo?
[16:03] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah intrepid FF here
[16:04] <Paddy_EIRE> what happens with you exactly?
[16:04] <ldlework> And it runs really really fast? Because on Windows its full speed, on my Intrepid machine it runs but is slow.
[16:04] <eugo> ok im on ubuntu but where can i find the app to search for wireless networks? i went to system -> preferences -> network configuration -> wireless where i can add a new wireless connection but i have to specify the ssid
[16:04] <ldlework> Just runs slow
[16:04] <Paddy_EIRE> slow just.. like a slideshow or what
[16:04] <ldlework> Yes
[16:04] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[16:04] <fmagno> Sometimes, when a window is generated while opening a program, the window is not entirely in the ecran.. The menu, for example, is hiden. Does anyone share the same problem or have a solution for this ?
[16:04] <ldlework> I heard something about Java 1.6 vs 1.5
[16:04] <ldlework> Didn't make a difference for me
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> That is a strange one
[16:06] <wipeout140> Could it be your video card drivers are affecting the performance
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm... good point
[16:07] <ldlework> wipeout140, could be, seeing as how the ATI drivers are ... well you know
[16:07] <ikaros> fmagno, try disabling visual effects in appearance
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah... they leave much to be desired
[16:07] <Paddy_EIRE> although they have improved
[16:07] <ikaros> i had a similar problem once and it was caused by the effects option
[16:08] <Paddy_EIRE> ldlework, might sound strange but have you tested that site with a livecd
[16:08] <kiru__> could anyone help me with a vpn problem?
[16:10] <wipeout140> sorry kiru_, i never used or needed vpn
[16:12] <Paddy_EIRE> ldlework, ?
[16:12] <ldlework> No I am at work. If I have a cd, I will try that.
[16:12] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[16:12] <ldlework> (when I get home)
[16:12] <Paddy_EIRE> just to rule that out
[16:12] <Paddy_EIRE> you never know
[16:12] <Paddy_EIRE> nice site
[16:13] <ldlework> Thanks, its just trac :)
[16:13] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[16:13] <dougl> I am trying to configure samba (as per http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=181) but when I restart samba it fails - I am googling to find out where some diagnostics info is but seem to be fruitless = any suggestions?
[16:14] <genii> dougl: testparm    will tell you how valid or not your smb.conf file is
[16:14] <nado_> dougl, /var/log/samba
[16:14] <{bosco}> anyone know of a good site (how to ) to make it so users on my server can only view there own home dir and nothing else so they cant {cd} outsite of it???
[16:15] <ldlework> {bosco}, I believe that's called a chroot?
[16:15] <dougl> genii, nado_ thanks guys
[16:16] <genii> {bosco}: Bacially install jail or so. Then make their default shell something like     jail /home/theirname
[16:16] <Paddy_EIRE> {bosco}, this may not be what you are looking for http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/27/how-to-lock-down-gnome/
[16:16] <Paddy_EIRE> but useful non the less
[16:16] <{bosco}> Paddy_EIRE: no gui server lol no gnome
[16:16] <{bosco}> lol
[16:16] <Paddy_EIRE> {bosco}, ah :)
[16:16] <{bosco}> :)
[16:16] <nado_> i'd check man chmod {bosco}
[16:17] <nado_> that's all you should need
[16:17] <{bosco}> nope
[16:17] <{bosco}> idk
[16:17] <{bosco}> what i need
[16:17] <beli> moin
[16:17] <CQ> how do you grep for a multibyte character that looks like <80>
[16:17] <{bosco}> i just dont want them wondering outside  of there own ./home/user. directory
[16:18] <beli> CQ: there's binary grep
[16:18] <{bosco}> anyone??
[16:18] <rtx3462> {bosco}: in order to run commands, the have to
[16:18] <nado_> that's what chmod and chown do {bosco}
[16:18] <CQ> beli it's in a html file
[16:19] <nado_> you can modify executable rights on a directory so that people cannot access that directory
[16:20] <genii> {bosco}: Read the Example section of http://linux.die.net/man/8/jailkit
[16:20] <sky_> how i can resize my partition with ubuntu live cd ?
[16:20] <blip-> i'm getting a  "GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy Release" on every aptgetupdate,   any idea to resolve the issue
[16:20] <Cyndrework> mauahauhaua 3.6 MB/s
[16:20] <beli> CQ: generate the char using a script language like python or perl
[16:20] <LjL> !gpgerr | blip-
[16:20] <{bosco}> rtx3462: so even if all they run (nano or cp ) basic stuff like that then they cant do it unless they have acess to more than just /home/user/
[16:21] <mib_exqvlp2b> ok guys i need help, i have 2 partitions on my laptop....1 in use 1 not, i want to install wubi, do i install it on the partition that im using or the empty one ?
[16:21] <rtx3462> {bosco}: to run nano, cp, ... they need r and x rights on /usr/bin
[16:21] <blip-> thanks LjL
[16:21] <rtx3462> {bosco}: and /bin
[16:22] <beli> CQ: btw...why are those chars in an html file?!
[16:22] <{bosco}> rtx3462: then how do hosting sites do it for example that give ssh acces i know there is no way they would give you access to those directories or am i mistaken
[16:23] <nado_> {bosco}, executable rights is not dangerous
[16:23] <rtx3462> {bosco}: maybe that's rssh or something, running in chroot environment. takes some work to set up.
[16:23] <rikkardo> hello, ive extracted openarena into "/home/username/.openarena" - how do i make a link so i can start it from the console by typing "openarena"?
[16:24] <FuriousGeorge1> hey all
[16:24] <genii> {bosco}: When for instance your top level directory is your home directory. Then /home/username/bin     becomes your /bin and whatever yer allowed to run goes in there
[16:24] <sipior> {bosco}: what precisely are you afraid of your users seeing? are you sure you're not just making work for yourself, to no real end?
[16:24] <FuriousGeorge1> i need to export a system variable.  what file should i stick that in so that it happens for all users on boot?
[16:24] <rtx3462> {bosco}: what is it you want to hide from the user? other user's directories or the system itself?
[16:24] <blip-> LjL: that solved it.  thanks again.  just to make sure I understood this, the GPG is a way to authenticate into the custom repo, and since they changed their key (or it expired), this command I just ran retrieved a new key and saved it.  is that right ?
[16:25] <rtx3462> {bosco}: they cannot write in /bin and /usr/bin anyway
[16:25] <LjL> blip-: well, i think it's more like you never had the key for that PPA in the first place
[16:25] <rikkardo> hello, ive extracted openarena into "/home/username/.openarena" - now i want to be able to start it by typing "openarena" into console - what have i to do?
[16:26] <LjL> blip-: but anyway, yes. well, it's not a way for *you* to authenticate to the repo, it's a way for the repo to authenticate *to* you, so you can be sure you're getting packages from it and not from someone else
[16:27] <blip-> rikkardo: I don't know why you put it in a hidden directory.. but anyway open a console, go to the directory and run the binary as such "./openarena"... if it doesn't work you need to add execute permissions on the file.    do that with "sudo chmod +x openarena"  (while you are inside the directory)
[16:28] <blip-> ah I see. thanks LjL
[16:29] <Oli``> Is it possible to limit a process to one CPU?
[16:29] <Oli``> (or core)
[16:29] <beli> Oli``: yes....but why do you want to?
[16:29] <sven_> there is an app to applz
[16:30] <sven_> verz riskz
[16:30] <sven_> ONE CPU
[16:30] <Akkernight> Is there anyway of getting xfire for Ubuntu?
[16:30] <Oli``> beli: VirtualBox doesn't know how to play with more than one core nicely
[16:31] <sven_> it is a c program Kernighan and Richie  to have 1 CPU
[16:31] <beli> hmmm
[16:31] <sven_> it is a hilarious program hahahahha
[16:31] <Oli``> beli: at least, I believe that's its problem... It was a known issue a while back and I'm getting similar issues now. I'd like to check against just one core to see if it's a proper regression
[16:31] <beli> Oli``: its not using smp, right, but its using threading and threads are spread over all availiable cpus on an smp enabled kernel by the os
[16:32] <Oli``> beli: yup
[16:32] <henry_> #ubuntu.es
[16:32] <beli> Oli``: the easiest way would be to boot a non-smp kernel to test it...but as i said....the program itself isnt using smp...its just using threading
[16:33] <henry_> #ubuntu.es join
[16:33] <rtx3462> beli: you can disable cpus while running a smp kernel
[16:33] <FuriousGeorge1> does anyone know in what file I should put an "export" command so that the variable is set on boot?
[16:34] <rtx3462> beli: (if the kernel has cpu hotplugging support, which is necessary from suspend to ram on dual core machines)
[16:34] <fruc> ubuntu.es
[16:34] <fruc> #ubuntu.es
[16:34] <fruc> #ubuntu.es
[16:34] <Oli``> I'd prefer something I could prepend to the launch command than disabling cores system-wide or changing kernel =)
[16:34] <sipior> Oli``: you can use "taskset" to set cpu affinity
[16:35] <rtx3462> beli: echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online   will disable cpu1
[16:35] <DJones> !es | fruc
[16:35] <moza> hello, it has been some time since i tried to solve this minor problem : i have a proxy setting that has been set globally somewhere, and i don't know how to get rid of it, any idea?
[16:35] <beli> rtx3462: yes, but globally...but for testing thats ok...right
[16:35] <fruc> #ubuntu-es
[16:35] <fruc> como?
[16:35] <rtx3462> beli: at least it doesn't need a reboot
[16:36] <DJones> fruc: type /join #ubuntu-es
[16:36] <moza> fruc : /join #ubuntu-es
[16:36] <beli> Oli``: just for testing.....if your issues are still there it has nothing todow with smp/threading
[16:36] <night> hi @ all, plz help me: i have 6 (!) apache2-processes running and i don't know how to get them away.....
[16:36] <beli> rtx3462: right thats what i said :)
[16:36] <rtx3462> beli: :)
[16:37] <moza> night : did you try a "killall" on them?
[16:37] <night> moza, y, but i don't want them to start @ startup, do u know what i have to do there?
[16:37] <sven_> i have a variety of setaffinitz c programs for 1 CPU
[16:38] <beli> Oli``: since the os is doing the thread spreading over the cores....you can just manipulate syscalls to check for exec pid and limit syscalls to a single cpu....
[16:38] <beli> Oli``: or you can try disabling threading for the program
[16:38] <sven_> ok
[16:38] <moza> night : i don't know where you setup processes that run at startup
[16:38] <night> k
[16:38] <Besogon> Hi! I want to install RealPlayer11 from site real.com. Bin file is downloaded into Desktop directory. OK. But where am I must install that player? Shoud I install it in /usr/lokal ?
[16:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Besogon, no harm.. but are you mad?
[16:39] <Paddy_EIRE> you voluntarily want to install real player
[16:39] <Paddy_EIRE> O_o
[16:39] <nalioth> Paddy_EIRE: be nice  :)
[16:39] <rtx3462> night:  ... to impatient
[16:39] <xaos11> I had to to watch the matrix trilogy my friend gave me in rvmb format
[16:39] <rtx3462> too*
[16:39] <xaos11> with realplayer
[16:39] <Paddy_EIRE> nalioth, I am.. how am I not
[16:40] <rtx3462> xaos11: mplayer can also play .rm
[16:40] <Paddy_EIRE> he probably thnks its essential for some reason.. I am enlightening him
[16:40] <Paddy_EIRE> I prefer gecko-mediaplayer
[16:40] <xaos11> rtx3462, good to know
[16:40] <xaos11> vlc for me
[16:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !info gecko-mediaplayer
[16:40] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[16:41] <Besogon> Paddy_EIRE, I only want to konow  RIGHT PATH for REALPLAYER. It so difficalt? In Windows it is in C:/Program files. But where is it in Debian-ubuntu?
[16:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Besogon, there is no one specific directory
[16:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Besogon, put it where you want really... I guess /opt is a good place
[16:43] <rtx3462> Besogon: in unix, programs don't have a single directory. /bin and /usr/bin is for binaries, /usr/lib for libraries and /usr/share for data files.
[16:43] <Paddy_EIRE> other than that I would avoid real player like the plague
[16:43] <natalie> Can anyone help me with my video card locking up my computer
[16:43] <Paddy_EIRE> natalie, which card
[16:44] <Paddy_EIRE> natalie, open a terminal and do "lspci" without quotes then pastebin the output.
[16:44] <rtx3462> Besogon: if you installed realplayer as a .deb package you can list all files of the package with  dpkg -L packagname
[16:44] <Besogon> rtx3462, Enemy Territory was installed in /usr/local. May be it right way...
[16:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste
[16:44] <slipstenen> natalie: do you have multiple cards? Like one onboard and one expansion?
[16:44] <rtx3462> Besogon: then enemy terretory is no .deb file
[16:45] <Paddy_EIRE> there is no .deb for enemy territory
[16:45] <beli> Besogon: /usr/local/realplayer/rp_app and a symlink in /usr/local/bin to it......thats what uses widely on different distros for userapps
[16:45] <natalie> slipstenen: no It is the card on my laptop
[16:45] <rtx3462> Besogon: normal packages never install to /usr/local
[16:45] <Paddy_EIRE> natalie, ?
[16:45] <rtx3462> Besogon: only third party, non-packaged things
[16:45] <Besogon> rtx3462, thanks
[16:45] <natalie> Paddy_EIRE:  I am working on the paste bin... but I can't remember where to go... I don't use it much
[16:46] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste
[16:46] <tallyn> !flashplugin
[16:46] <natalie> !00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
[16:46] <natalie> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx)
[16:46] <natalie> 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
[16:46] <natalie> 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1)
[16:46] <natalie> 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
[16:46] <FloodBot2> natalie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:46] <natalie> 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
[16:47] <coucou1345> hello!
[16:47]  * __mikem thanks the lord when he was new here and he made the paste mistake, his paste was only 4 lines long
[16:48] <humbolt> does anybody know, if Skype audio input (of the static-oss version) does work with padsp?
[16:48] <natalie> Paddy_EIRE: here is the paste bin
[16:49] <linfenix> somebody here know how can i change the resolution size to the console mode????
[16:49] <rtx3462> humbolt: if it is really static linked (all libs linked into it), no
[16:49] <cast> linfenix: pass linux a vga= parameter
[16:49] <natalie> Paddy_EIRE_: here is the paste bin http://paste.ubuntu.com/133107/
[16:49] <blip-> they should've named it.   Jacky Jeb
[16:49] <humbolt> rtx3462: I got the static-oss version from skype.com
[16:50] <rtx3462> humbolt: i don't use skype at all. but you can do ldd /path/to/skype to check it.
[16:50] <beli> humbolt: ldd $(which skype_binary)
[16:50] <linfenix>  cast: i did it that righ now but, the usplash size or resplution change too and i dont liked it
[16:50] <leshaste> how do you enable the microphone in ubuntu?
[16:51] <leshaste> I get nothing from the microphone in skype for example
[16:51] <linfenix> cast: did u know other way to do this?
[16:51] <rtx3462> humbolt: if it gives you something like "statically linked", you are out of luck
[16:51] <vampirnata> hi all
[16:51] <cast> linfenix: sure, but that way is easiest.
[16:51] <humbolt> beli: shows me a whole bunch of stuff
[16:51] <humbolt> libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb7fcb000)
[16:51] <JMFTheVCI> Microphone in Ubuntu 8.10. Right click on the Speaker image in the Top menu bare
[16:51] <beli> humbolt: nopaste it
[16:51] <rtx3462> humbolt: then it is not statically linked
[16:51] <JMFTheVCI> (bar)
[16:52] <humbolt> rtx3462: ok, all it says is static-oss on the download page
[16:52] <vampirnata> i need some help please. i installed ubuntu, then installed xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop from the package manager. now when I boot i have a kubuntu boot screen, a xubuntu login screen and gnome as my desktop manager. how do i set them all back to gnome?
[16:52] <linfenix> cast: i know but i want to change the resolution console without change the usplash size
[16:52] <rtx3462> humbolt: what beli says, nopaste the output of ldd
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[16:53] <cast> linfenix: ahh, no idea then.
[16:53] <linfenix> jai
[16:53] <vampirnata> i don't want to remove them
[16:53] <IdentifyTarget_> wow It's funny that there would be a bot entry for that
[16:53] <vampirnata> just change the boot and login to ubuntu and gdm
[16:53] <jschoolc> why would ssh localhost prompt for passphrase? I've copied .ssh/id_rsa.pub into authorized_keys, and ssh to this machine from a remote machine with keys set up similarly isn't challenged for passphrase...
[16:54] <humbolt> rtx3462: beli: http://nopaste.org/p/a559bzvr4
[16:54] <rtx3462> jschoolc: if you do "ssh localhost" on a remote machine, you are logging into that remote machine
[16:55] <rtx3462> humbolt: it should work with padsp if padsp uses the same technique as aoss
[16:55] <jschoolc> rtx3462: yeah, not what I meant.  On Server A ssh localhost asks for passphrase.  On Server B ssh serverA doesn't ask for passphrase.  users keys both in authorized_keys
[16:56] <rtx3462> jschoolc: compare the /etc/ssh/sshd_config on both servers
[16:56] <vampirnata> anyone here use irssi?
[16:56] <Billy> i was wondering if anyone knew if there was a way to get information off a hd that wont recognized
[16:56] <cast> vampirnata: sure.
[16:56] <rtx3462> jschoolc: maybe pubkey auth is disabled on one
[16:56] <humbolt> rtx3462: how do you see that. which lib am I looking for?
[16:56] <beli> vampirnata: yes
[16:56] <Billy> its a sata drive
[16:56] <humbolt> rtx3462: output works, but skype does seem to believe, there is no mic
[16:56] <vampirnata> cast, beli: do any of you know how to move all join/quit messages to another window?
[16:56] <cast> Billy: does it show up in dmesg?
[16:56] <Billy> and making a clicking noise
[16:57] <rtx3462> humbolt: it is dynamically linked agains libc. and if padsp works like aoss, it will intercept the open() system call
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Billy leave that work for professionals, it is not a ubuntu support question anyhow
[16:57] <jschoolc> rtx3462: ssh target for both is serverA so the config is the same.  localhost prompts for passphrase, remote doesn't
[16:57] <rtx3462> humbolt: then i suspect it is a pulseaudio problem. i don't use PA, just plain alsa
[16:57] <cast> vampirnata: not off the top of my head, one can ignore them easily enough
[16:57] <genii> Billy: clicking noise = head physically crashed. So not much hope unles you send it out to one of those data recovery labs
[16:57] <Billy> when i fo in to the bios it does not reconize a drive iin that sata port
[16:57] <leshaste> can anyone help me get the microphone working?
[16:57] <ChrizC> what music files can be played whilst you're on the livecd without installing codecs?
[16:58] <leshaste> I just get complete silence at the moment
[16:58] <hoonteke> is there yet a list of changes somewhere about what's to change between intrepid and jaunty?
[16:58] <Paddy_EIRE_> Billy the manufacturer of the drive should have some tools
[16:58] <Billy> ok
[16:58] <vampirnata> cast: how do i set to ignore them?
[16:58] <cast> ChrizC: i imagine vorbis
[16:58] <Billy> thank you
[16:58] <cast> vampirnata: /help ignore
[16:58] <sky_> ok i cant resize my partitions on liveCD with gparted....anyone can help me ?
[16:58] <vampirnata> thanks
[16:58] <rtx3462> jschoolc: then one of them is missing the private key in ~/.ssh
[16:58] <ChrizC> cast: .ogg?
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> sky_ You cant resize mounted partitions
[16:58] <cast> ChrizC: aye, not that i've ever used the livecd you refer to.
[16:58] <rtx3462> jschoolc: you can debug ssh logins with ssh -vv
[16:59] <beli> Billy: check ultimate boot cd....ubcd....it has some manufacturer tools on it
[16:59] <humbolt> rtx3462: I can record from the mic via pulseaudio, with the gnome-recorder app, or whatever its name is
[16:59] <sky_> Jack_Sparrow: but one guy told me that i can via Live CD ?
[16:59] <hoonteke> ChrizC: you might boot the livecd, open synaptic and search for gstreamer.  See what's installed.
[16:59] <chuckh1958> I've installed gnome-user-share to share my Public folder via http. How do I get the URL for the folder or for a file in it to pass on to someone?
[16:59] <humbolt> rtx3462: so pulseaudio seems to work correctly
[16:59] <rtx3462> humbolt: then i don't know, must be skype specific...
[17:00] <rtx3462> humbolt: i refuse to use this closed source rubbish
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> sky_ yes with live cd you can, but they cannot be mounted when you try to do it and you will also run into problrms if trying to deal with an extended
[17:00] <vampirnata> cast: thanks, ignoring does the trick :)
[17:00] <orudie> question. how to extract file.tar ?
[17:00] <cast> orudie: tar xf file.tar
[17:00] <rtx3462> orudie: tar xf file.tar
[17:00] <sky_> Jack_Sparrow: i tell you what i want
[17:00] <orudie> thanx
[17:00] <hoonteke> one more time, then quiet: anyone know a list of changes/updates between intrepid and jaunty?
[17:00]  * cast wins
[17:00] <rtx3462> cast: hehe
[17:01] <Pici> hoonteke: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion.
[17:01] <jase_> hello, im looking for 2 programs, 1) a program that works like musicbrainz tagger for windows using acoustic signature to tag files with freedb, 2) a program that i can input a list of http addresses and it will fetch everything on the list
[17:01] <odinsbane> Hello I am using a project and my screen is not lined up to the output.  Is there a way to fix this with xrandr?
[17:01] <hoonteke> orudie: make sure it opens into a new directory by seeing what it extracts: tar tf file.tar
[17:01] <hoonteke> thanks Pici
[17:01] <cast> jase_: the later, man wget
[17:01] <beli> jase_: 2nd...wget...1st....search freshmeat or sourceforge
[17:02] <sky_> Jack_Sparrow: i have 3 partitions....1) 250GB ext3 where i want copy data (movies,photos etc) 2) system 40 GB ext3 3) 20GB ext3 and i want -> delete 20GB partition and make 60 GB ext3 system partition or 270GB partition
[17:02] <Pici> jase_: for #2 you can use wget -i
[17:02] <gr1zz1305> so does everyone actually use ubuntu?
[17:02] <beli> gr1zz1305: no we use vista all in here
[17:02] <sky_> beli: lol
[17:02] <cast> gr1zz1305: debian here :)
[17:02] <CPUdestroyer> lol
[17:02] <gr1zz1305> oh ok
[17:02] <jemark> cast: me too
[17:03] <gr1zz1305> just asking
[17:03] <jase_> beli, what command line input would i need to read a list file? and would the list need to be in a special format?
[17:03]  * beli detex: stupid question...stupid answer
[17:03] <gr1zz1305> just downloaded colloquy
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sky_ sorry I could not make sense of that
[17:03] <Paddy_EIRE_> gr1zz1305, do you have a support question if not then take this to the offtopic
[17:03] <cast> jase_ ignored me :(
[17:03]  * cast sulks
[17:03] <gr1zz1305> ah
[17:03] <beli> jase_:  man wget...you could also write a short shell script....for line in $(cat web_list.txt); do wget $line; done
[17:04] <slerder> Hey guys. Does anyone have any experience booting an os, whether it be windows or ubuntu,etc from a usb 2.0 hdd? I was planning on doing this but was worried usb 2.0 was not fast enought and would make things sluggish. Any thoughts? Thanks
[17:04] <jase_> cast: no sorry cast didnt ignore didnt see it. lots of ppl leaving and joining
[17:04] <sky_> Jack_Sparrow: i want just have only 2 partitions :(
[17:04] <vampirnata> slerder: doing that at the moment
[17:04] <Pici> jase_: The file referenced by wget -i  just needs to be one URL per line.
[17:04] <vampirnata> slerder: no problems
[17:04]  * beli detex again: gr1zzl305 understood ;)
[17:04] <slerder> vampirnata.. i see ok
[17:04] <cast> beli: don't urls have funny characters that might make wget $line assplode
[17:04] <beli> cast you can use "" to solve that
[17:04] <leshaste> wow I got it to work in the end
[17:05] <vampirnata> slerder: but you can't boot windows from a usb harddisk as far as i know
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sky_ I just stopped in for a minute, someone with more time can help you out
[17:05] <leshaste> what a pain!!
[17:05] <slerder> vampirnata... huh, why not?
[17:05] <cast> beli: indeed. ;P
[17:05] <odinsbane> I'm not lined up on the vga monitor does anybody have an idea, not it works for other computers
[17:05] <sky_> Jack_Sparrow: i hope :)...but thanks
[17:05] <vampirnata> slerder: not sure, you'd have to ask in #windows :)
[17:05] <Paddy_EIRE_> ah.. the man himself.. Hey Jack_Sparrow :D
[17:05] <Pici> slerder, vampirnata: Please take this to ##windows or ##hardware if you plan on continuing, thatnks
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Paddy..
[17:05] <leo_> 有中国人吗这里？？
[17:06] <slerder> pici alright
[17:06] <sky_> !cn
[17:06] <vampirnata> pici: what did i just say
[17:06] <leo_> 3q
[17:06] <mtozses__> hello
[17:06] <kane77> how can I temporarily disable automatic mounting of cd/dvd?
[17:07] <mtozses__> why do I get this: W: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.0/firefox-gnome-support_3.0.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_all.deb adresinden indirme başarısız
[17:07] <mtozses__>   404 Not Found
[17:07] <vampirnata> edit your /etc/fstab
[17:07] <jase_> sweet wget rocks
[17:07] <vampirnata> kane: edit your /etc/fstab
[17:07] <Picassotamus> kane77: Save a backup of /etc/fstab, make the changes you need and then restore
[17:07] <Picassotamus> when you are done
[17:07] <sky_> anyone can help me how i can resize system partition ?
[17:08] <vampirnata> sky: use a partition tool like partition magic
[17:08] <jase_> !find musicbrainz
[17:08] <sayuncle> how can i reset my root password?
[17:08] <Pici> sayuncle: Are you aware that the root password is locked by default and we do not support having one?
[17:08] <kane77> Picassotamus, and how do I disable automount there?
[17:09] <sky_> vampirnata: partition magic works under ubuntu ? gparted cant resize sysem partition if he is mounted
[17:09] <sayuncle> sounds good to me
[17:09] <sayuncle> so password is blank?
[17:09] <jschoolc> rtx3462: complaining about an unkown key type, http://gist.github.com/81259 perms are correct on ~/ ~/.ssh, and id_rsa* authorized_keys
[17:09] <Pici> !root | sayuncle
[17:09] <jase_> run gparted from the live cd
[17:09] <Pici> sayuncle: no, please see the link above
[17:09] <jase_> and make sure no drives are mounted
[17:09] <vampirnata> sky: you will need to burn a partition magic cd and boot off it. best bet is to google for hiren's boot disk
[17:10] <vampirnata> sky: or yes boot off a live cd :)
[17:10] <jase_> i dont like partition magic. i perfer gparted. there is even a plain gparted livecd
[17:10] <sky_> vampirnata: but how to use this live CD ?
[17:10] <stradade> I do hotspot with freradius and chillispot... i put into radcheck a mysqltest for try and radius autenticate the user but the user cant navigate web... is normal ??
[17:10] <jase_> or ubuntu live cd which has gparted
[17:10] <rtx3462> jschoolc: never saw DEK-Info in ssh keys
[17:10] <beli> sayuncle: it isnt blank...its locked....
[17:11] <Picassotamus> kane77: there should be a line describing the auto mount of /dev/cd or w/e u said... u should just have to comment out
[17:11] <vampirnata> sky: listen to jase. he is giving you instructions
[17:11] <Pici> stradade: This is the Ubuntu support channel, are you in the right place?
[17:11] <sayuncle> understood
[17:11] <rtx3462> jschoolc: oops, er, actually yes
[17:11] <jase_> run the live cd, might have to press f1 or f9 on bootup too choose to run from cd
[17:11] <sky_> ah i dont read who dont highlight me :-O
[17:11] <jase_> once it loads fully
[17:11] <jase_> open a terminal and type gparted or find it in the menu
[17:12] <sky_> jase_: can i unmount partition on gparted in live cD ?
[17:12] <jase_> yes
[17:12] <rtx3462> jschoolc: maybe the key file has msdos line endings (^M)?
[17:12] <sky_> 100% :
[17:12] <sky_> ?
[17:12] <jase_> just right click on the drives you want to unmount
[17:12] <Pici> !enter | jase_
[17:13] <rtx3462> jschoolc: my private key file is named "id_dsa" not "identity"
[17:13] <weiyuan> hello
[17:13] <sayuncle> text editors in ubuntu?
[17:13] <sky_> jase_: ok i go try it !
[17:14] <emilio> alguem brasileiro por ai?
[17:14] <Ax3> sayuncle, vim, vi, nano, gedit, emacs
[17:14] <Paddy_EIRE_> sayuncle, what about them
[17:14] <genii> !br | emilio
[17:14] <sayuncle> best one / easiest
[17:14] <jschoolc> rtx3462: mine is id_rsa and both users in this scenario have similar headers for their private key, including that DEK string
[17:14] <jase_> sayuncle: there is nano, edit, and gedit
[17:14] <redwards> afternoon....am trying to install the driver for a Matrox QID LP PCIe and get busted during install. I get the following error in the make log: gcc: -pg and -fomit-frame-pointer are incompatible. any ideas?
[17:14] <Paddy_EIRE_> !best | sayuncle
[17:14] <beli> sayuncle: pico
[17:14] <rtx3462> jschoolc: hmm
[17:15] <Paddy_EIRE_> for me its gotta be vim or gedit
[17:15] <Ax3> ....
[17:15] <eseven73> Ax3 emacs isn't installed in Ubuntu by default, or did they add that recently?
[17:15] <jase_> sayuncle: i like nano and gedit, but some people perfer vim, and emac
[17:15] <Ax3> didn't you just send him the bot info Paddy_EIRE_ ..... lol
[17:15] <beli> Paddy_EIRE_: for a newbie or one coming from windows vim isnt easy at the beginning ;)
[17:15] <Paddy_EIRE_> Ax3, yeah but I felt like throwing that one out htere
[17:15] <Paddy_EIRE_> *there
[17:15] <Paddy_EIRE_> :P
[17:15] <elli222> hey guys, how do i boot into a certian runlevel from grub? i tried adding init 3 and 3 at the end, but it didnt work...
[17:15] <Ax3> eseven73, it's always been available, apt-get install emacs
[17:15] <rtx3462> jschoolc: which user is logging in?
[17:15] <Paddy_EIRE_> beli, it is simple if you do the vimtutor
[17:16] <Paddy_EIRE_> beli, although yeah I totally agree
[17:16] <beli> Paddy_EIRE_: pico is intuitive for switchers...
[17:16] <cast> vimtutor, how much more easy could you want? :)
[17:16] <_VIM_> beli: I am too easy to operate, I'm just as easy as Emacs :P
[17:16] <beli> s/_VIM_//g ;)
[17:16] <jschoolc> rtx3462: user on my mac can ssh to my ubuntu server and authenticate with ssh keys.  user on my ubuntu server must enter a passphrase with ssh into localhost
[17:16] <elli222> i prefer Gvim to textmode editors
[17:16] <eseven73> Ax3 but he was asking what ones are in ubuntu, not which ones were available ;)
[17:17] <Paddy_EIRE_> beli, I used to _HATE_ vim ... funny that :)
[17:17] <jase_> Paddy_EIRE_: even with the vim tutor most coming from windows wont bother with it. the arrow keys are j l k ; instead of the default. most windows users would find that retarded and pass
[17:17] <Ax3> whatever
[17:17] <gRunt> Hi does anyone know how to remove my places tab from the menu up the top? or atleast edit it
[17:17] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:17] <Ax3> i answered the damn question
[17:17] <sipior> elli222: you can modify /etc/event.d/rc-default, but maintaining different operational runlevels has fallen out of fashion.
[17:17] <Ax3> lol
[17:17] <beli> vim is my favourite
[17:17] <beli> never got deep into emacs
[17:17] <rtx3462> jschoolc: and the user on the mac is also "jeff"?
[17:17] <cjae> Hi, I am running a live disc in order to check my filesystems (fsck). I have resierfs filesystems at /dev/sdb1 (root) and /dev/sdb6 (/home) 1. Must I have the partitions mounted  to check them. 2. I have tried setting the command options -C -A on /dev/sdb1 and it sees to check it in under one second is this normal
[17:17] <Paddy_EIRE_> jase_, errr. the arrow keys being your home keys makes so much sense
[17:17] <eseven73> lol ax3
[17:17] <Pici> Please take the editor wars elsewehre.
[17:17] <Ax3> thank you
[17:17] <beli> maybe its because of lisp......reminds me on nasty artificial science lessons
[17:17] <Pici> gRunt: Modify the Bookmarks menu from within a Nautilus window.
[17:17] <Ax3> i agree with Pici
[17:18] <jase_> Paddy_EIRE_:  arrow keys actually being your arrow keys makes the most sense
[17:18] <jschoolc> rtx3462: yes
[17:18]  * jase_ shuts up about editors
[17:18] <Paddy_EIRE_> jase_, naa.. thats for the brain dead and really is stupid
[17:18] <rtx3462> jschoolc: did you check the line ends of the key file?
[17:19] <gRunt> thanks Pici  I have natilius installed but never used it, is it as simple as opening terminal and typing natilius?
[17:19] <rtx3462> jschoolc: mac uses CR instead of LF
[17:19] <cast> editor wars are a key part of unix culture!
[17:19] <beli> jase_: thats right...so i keybound them to act like arrow keys :)
[17:19] <Pici> gRunt: nautilus is the 'file manager' program, its what runs when you open a folder in gnome.
[17:19] <Paddy_EIRE_> jase_, if you cant touch type and need to look at every key before you type then perhaps it makes sense
[17:19] <Pici> !offtopic | cast beli Paddy_EIRE_
[17:19] <jschoolc> rtx3462: yes, both of them in vim look similar
[17:20] <Formode> Hi there, trying to get Icecast working.. I have it working perfectly on local network, but on going from my IP I get a timeout... My router is forwarding properly... Anyone know what's going on?
[17:20] <rtx3462> jschoolc: vim is no check for that, it converts on the fly for viewing
[17:20] <rtx3462> jschoolc: cat -A keyfile
[17:20] <keepsake> Hey, what is the _correct_ way of installing fglrx manually? I've tried many methods, but they all seem to end up forcing me to go into low graphics mode after I reboot.
[17:20] <jase_> Paddy_EIRE_: i can type just fine. dont need to look at the keyboard i was talking about ease of use, not which editor has the most functionality or is more nerdy.
[17:20]  * beli detex: since all stuff on linux is file based and ubuntu is a linux distro....text editors arent that off topic :)
[17:20] <beli> but anyways...
[17:20] <Paddy_EIRE_> jase_, then again that is fail and take it elsewhere
[17:20] <dimitree> How can i find out my IP ? when i use ifconfig it shows that everything is Ok, but when programs try to get my IP they show 000.000.000.000 ? Also if i force the program to use 127.0.0.1 it reports again that it starts monitoring 000.000.00.000 any idea what's going on ?
[17:20] <beli> i am off for some soccer
[17:21] <keepsake> dimitree: 127.0.0.1 is localhost
[17:21] <Pici> Paddy_EIRE_, jase_: Please. I don't want to have to start making examples.
[17:21] <jschoolc> rtx3462: cat for both are the same
[17:21] <redwards> anyone have input on my matrox issue? i am totally flummoxed...
[17:21] <mickep> Hi, I cannot get my usb speakers to work properly (Creative N400). I get only sound from totem (not from Rhythmbox/mplayer/vlc/...). And the sound is bad.
[17:21] <jschoolc> -A isn't a valid option
[17:21] <Paddy_EIRE_> Pici, I told him to take it elsewhere
[17:21] <gRunt> Pici, okay that kind of makes sense, that said the "places" menu still doesn't seem to appear...unless I am looking in the wrong spot.
[17:21] <keepsake> dimitree: You need to go to a webpage like www.whatismyip.org to find your external IP.
[17:21] <dimitree> keepsake i know, but why will the program use 000.000.000.000 instead of it ?
[17:22] <keepsake> dimitree: What kind of program are you dealing with?
[17:22] <rtx3462> jschoolc: the GNU version of cat knows -A
[17:22] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me why this program is not executing http://paste.ubuntu.com/133128/
[17:22] <rtx3462> jschoolc: maybe the mac version does not
[17:22] <Pici> gRunt: Its listed as Bookmarks within a Nautilus window
[17:22] <dimitree> keepsake i whent to that page and my IP is known :) the problem is that programs in Ubuntu cant get it !?
[17:22] <jase_> pici, he is insulting me. i merely shared a viewpoint, i personally dont freaking care which editor i use and could use any. he just wants to act tough and play the whose the biggest looser game.
[17:22] <keepsake> dimitree: What kind of programs?
[17:22] <gRunt> When I open filesystem then go to bookmarks and hit edit I can see the folders I have made as bookmarks but not the places menu.
[17:22] <dimitree> keepsake ubuntu ports are open by default right ? gosh it's not a public program
[17:22] <jase_> now can we shut up about it already. geez
[17:22] <Pici> jase_: Theres no need to respond then.
[17:23] <rtx3462> jschoolc: you can also check /var/log/auth.log on the server
[17:23] <keepsake> !offtopic | PerryArmstrong
[17:23] <jschoolc> rtx3462: cat -A my key file shows $ at end of every line
[17:23] <Pici> PerryArmstrong: Please try asking in #bash
[17:23] <rtx3462> jschoolc: that's okay
[17:23] <jschoolc> rtx3462: auth.log didn't have anything interesting
[17:23] <Ax3> PerryArmstrong, #bash
[17:23] <matthaslam> hey anyone from uk here?
[17:23] <elli222> matt, i am
[17:23] <matthaslam> ol
[17:23] <matthaslam> ok
[17:23] <dimitree> maby it's because i'm using DSL and it wants lan oh well
[17:23] <keepsake> dimitree: Ports? You might have to activate port forwarding or something... I'm not too familiar with internet protocols.
[17:24] <Pici> !uk | matthaslam elli222
[17:24] <dimitree> keepsake ok dude thanks for trying to help :)
[17:24] <keepsake> dimitree: No problem, sorry I couldn't do more for you.
[17:24] <rhousand> I am having issues with my sound. I use firefox to play songs on pandora.com all day. From time to time the songs stop playing and the speakers just click. I have tried using ps aux |grep firefox to see if it is locked and killing any firefox proecsses but I end up having to reboot to fix this issue.
[17:24] <BABER> hi
[17:25] <jase_> rhousand: thats a known bug with pulse audio, check ubuntu forum for fixes
[17:25] <jschoolc> rtx3462: Mar 18 13:12:30 DevUbuntu sshd[17401]: Accepted publickey for jeff from 127.0.0.1 port 54244 ssh2 and no errors
[17:26] <rtx3462> jschoolc: so it *did* accept the key
[17:26] <mickep> anyone knows how I can tell Rhythmbox to use the usb speaker as Totem does?
[17:26] <rhousand> jase_, will do thanks
[17:26] <mickep> (for now it hangs if I try to start it)
[17:26] <BABER> i want find ip who that i have chat with him with pidgin i use this command is this true? netstat -plant | grep pidgin
[17:26] <rtx3462> jschoolc: then the "password" it asks for is actually the passphrase for the key
[17:27] <jase_> try it baber
[17:27] <rtx3462> jschoolc: if you don't want to enter the key's passphrase each time, take a look a ssh-agent
[17:27] <jschoolc> rtx3462: yeah, sorry, I've been saying passphrase all along.
[17:27] <jschoolc> or thought I had, but might have been coming across differently
[17:27] <rlameiro> How can I make a link to a sh script (I tried ln-s, didnt work) to run a java starting script
[17:27] <ThinkMinus> Hello, I'm not a regular user of ubuntu....I tried installing ALIEN (using apt-get) but I get error message:
[17:27] <ThinkMinus> http://pastebin.com/m5c81a064
[17:27] <jschoolc> I'll look at ssh-agent
[17:28] <keepsake> ThinkMinus: The package doesn't exist.
[17:28] <keepsake> ThinkMinus: What "ALIEN" are you trying to install?
[17:28] <ThinkMinus> keepsake: How to download it then?
[17:28] <jase_> ThinkMinus: i think you are overthinking, if it says the package is missing its missing or maybe you mispelled it
[17:28] <Pici> !alien
[17:29] <keepsake> ThinkMinus: Strange, ubottu says the package exists...
[17:29] <rtx3462> jschoolc: yeah, my bad. you said passphrase.
[17:29] <ThinkMinus> keepsake: http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/alien/
[17:29] <gRunt> Pici, seems what I want to do can't be done (aka just remove the places tab altogether) I guess I'll just learn to live with it :)
[17:29] <jase_> !find alien
[17:29] <Pici> ThinkMinus: Have you done an apt-get update?
[17:29] <ThinkMinus> Pici: Nope :(
[17:29] <jschoolc> rtx3462: no worries, ssh-add can't connect to my authentication agent.  F this.  I'll move my CI stuff to a different server
[17:29] <keepsake> Pici: You took the words out of my mouth =O
[17:30] <Pici> ThinkMinus: Try ;)
[17:30] <ThinkMinus> Pici: How? :)
[17:30] <ThinkMinus> Googling
[17:30] <keepsake> ThinkMinus: sudo apt-get update
[17:30] <Pici> ThinkMinus: sudo apt-get update
[17:30] <jase_> hey pici, that paddy guy from earlier pmed me without my consent.
[17:30] <rtx3462> jschoolc: ssh-agent has to be run per-user
[17:30] <Formode> I there, I'm trying to access my Icecast server, I can get a connection on my local network (And it's playing fine) but I can't get any access (I get timed out) when I try it remotely... Anyone know why?
[17:30] <rlameiro> How can I make a link to a sh script (I tried ln-s, didnt work) to run a java starting script, it only opens directly from comand line like ./scriptname
[17:30] <rtx3462> jschoolc: eval $(ssh-agent)
[17:31] <ThinkMinus> ty everyone! :)
[17:31] <rtx3462> jschoolc: then do ssh-add
[17:31] <jase_> pici: he is still going on about that stupid editor crap
[17:31] <Pici> jase_: may I pm?
[17:31] <cast> rtx3462: #!/path/to/interpreter
[17:31] <inx-live> Formode: check your router for port forwarding
[17:31] <jase_> yea
[17:31] <blazak> Hey, I'm trying to set up my VHOSTS with apache remotely. I've set up Vhosts with windows before, but I think i may have just messed something up. Which files do I need to edit in order to get Vhosts set up?
[17:31] <rtx3462> cast: ?
[17:31] <cast> rlameiro: #!/path/to/interpreter
[17:31] <inx-live> Formode: and/or your firewall
[17:31] <cast> rtx3462: my bad.
[17:31] <rtx3462> cast: no problem
[17:32] <Formode> inx-live, The Server is in DMZ (All connections are directed to my server) and the firewall is open.
[17:32] <magnetron> !apache | blazak
[17:32] <hoonteke> blazak: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled / sites-available, but you likely need apache specific advice ...
[17:32] <rlameiro> cast: the script is made and works, I just want to make a link for desktop, or panel bar
[17:32] <hoonteke> yeah, magnetron is on it.
[17:32] <Pici> blazak: #apache would may be a better place to ask your question
[17:32] <hoonteke> :-)
[17:32] <ThinkMinus> When I tried updating apt-get, I get:
[17:32] <blazak> ok thanks guys
[17:32] <ThinkMinus> $ sudo apt-get updateReading package lists... Done
[17:32] <Yoda> Hey .. what is this "FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)" ?
[17:32] <jschoolc> rtx3462: thanks, that worked.
[17:32] <inx-live> Formode: If you can access the server on the local network, then that suggests that there is a block on the port(s) concerned somewhere, does it not?
[17:32] <ThinkMinus> But then if I try installing alien, I get same error message
[17:33] <rtx3462> jschoolc: alright
[17:33] <Formode> inx-live, Yeah it does, but there isn't one. >>
[17:33] <Pici> ThinkMinus: Can you pastebin the output of uname -a and lsb_release -a ?
[17:33] <Pici> !paste | ThinkMinus
[17:33] <inx-live> Formode: :|
[17:33] <rtx3462> jschoolc: ssh-agent only caches the passphrase in ram
[17:33] <ThinkMinus> Pici: Just a minute
[17:33] <Guest90320> Hey .. what is this "FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)" ?
[17:33] <Formode> inx-live, I'm thinking maybe Icecast is disabled for remote hosts?
[17:33] <rtx3462> jschoolc: so it never gets written to a temp file or sth
[17:33] <dom> jschoolc: i dunno what's it, but sounds like a driver made in the standard rule IEEE
[17:33] <inx-live> Formode: Odd then - check that by default the server is listening for connections from anywhere?
[17:33] <inx-live> Formode: snap
[17:34] <rtx3462> jschoolc: i wonder if the mac ssh tool stores it in a file (which would be bad)
[17:34] <Formode> inx-live, any idea how?
[17:34] <BABER> jase_: i used that command and show this output http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=u0q6t
[17:34] <rlameiro> I just want to make a link to the start script of arduino's IDE, but doesnt work
[17:34] <inx-live> Formode: maybe there's an /etc/default/icecast with an option - dpkg -L icecast | less to see the package's files
[17:34] <jschoolc> rtx3462: yeah, all this and it doesn't matter, my ci tool fires up a process that still needs to put in it's passphrase for access to the git repo
[17:35] <jschoolc> rtx3462: I guess I'm still moving this to another server, what a pain in the ass
[17:35] <ThinkMinus> Pici: Link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/133132/
[17:35] <odinsbane> okay I found something else, the resolution is not available for my xrandr
[17:35] <v4vijayakumar> hi, anyone installed chromium on ubuntu ?
[17:35] <Pici> ThinkMinus: How about /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:35] <new-tu>  I have a desktop PC with Ubuntu, and I've just bought a laptop and I installed Xubuntu. The laptop came with an older intel video card. I tried to configure the video by using the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" either I tried to use "sudo: displayconfig-gtk" and also it didn't work.  Then I could find out that those tools were taken off from version 8.10.   Is the next version...
[17:35] <inx-live> v4vijayakumar: only via wine
[17:35] <new-tu> ...of ubuntu going to put that functionality back?
[17:35] <rtx3462> jschoolc: what is a ci tool? why not using git itself to commit?
[17:36] <kitche> v4vijayakumar: chromium last time I checked can not even build
[17:36] <AndersPHP> Hey .. what is this "FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)" ?
[17:36] <jschoolc> rtx3462: continuous integration, I'm using integrityapp.com
[17:36] <rtx3462> jschoolc: hmm, never heard of that
[17:36] <ThinkMinus> Pici: It says: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[17:36] <new-tu> it looks like 8.10 makes sure that one cannot solve video problems, with that feature missing
[17:36] <rtx3462> AndersPHP: it is a firewire controller
[17:36] <ThinkMinus> OOPS!
[17:36] <Formode> inx-live Nothing in the file
[17:36] <kitche> AndersPHP: exactly has it says
[17:36] <ThinkMinus> I need to paste text....I suppose
[17:37] <v4vijayakumar> v4vijayakumar: thanks. I will check..
[17:37] <elli222> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133135/
[17:37] <AndersPHP> rtx3462:  Hm but what does it do ? what does it exactly do ?
[17:37] <__mikem> rvr, please don't spam me in pm
[17:37] <elli222> im thinking of adding runlevels to my rc
[17:37] <Certh> hi! test please freebasic just added to getdeb
[17:37] <inx-live> Formode: netstat -al or something like that
[17:37] <Pici> ThinkMinus: Do you have a desktop environment installed? Can you make sure that System>Administration>Software Sources has things selected.
[17:37] <inx-live> Formode: use netstat to see if it's listening, in other words
[17:38] <Pici> Certh: Please dont advertise here.
[17:38] <rtx3462> AndersPHP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireWire
[17:38] <Pici> ThinkMinus: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for more info
[17:38] <Formode> inx-live. tcp        0      0 *:8000                  *:*                     LISTEN
[17:38] <AndersPHP> rtx3462:  Alright thanks for your help!
[17:38] <sayuncle> i just installed a program
[17:39] <ThinkMinus> Pici: Let me see....
[17:39] <sayuncle> but it hasnt shown up in my menu bar
[17:39] <Pici> sayuncle: What program did you install?
[17:39] <inx-live> Formode: looks normal...
[17:39] <new-tu> hello?
[17:39] <Formode> inx-live, Yeah. >>
[17:39] <inx-live> Formode: 'tis a mystery then...
[17:39] <sayuncle> pure data extended
[17:40] <Formode> inx-live, Like, I can get on my apache server.... VNC, and all that
[17:40] <inx-live> Formode: I have no experience with icecast specifically, I'm afraid
[17:40] <inx-live> Formode: is there an icecast channel?
[17:41] <Formode> inx-live, on #icecast they tell me my firewall or NAT is messed. >>
[17:41] <ThinkMinus> Pici: OOPS! Actually I had previously unselected ALL "software sources" for ubuntu "downloadable from internet" in ubuntu update application...I think this was causing problem...Am I right?
[17:41] <ShinyHat> when i push 'select best server' for synaptic's sources, synaptic totally freezes. any thoughts?
[17:41] <inx-live> Formode: which is what i said too
[17:41] <inx-live> Formode: have another look maybe
[17:41] <sayuncle> i installed it through the firfox download menu and not add/remove apps, its not showing up in add remove apps either
[17:41] <Formode> inx-live, Port 8000 is allowed... port is forwarded. >>
[17:41] <inx-live> Formode: so you said
[17:41] <Pici> sayuncle: What firefox download menu?
[17:42] <inx-live> Formode: but evidently something is blocking access
[17:42] <new-tu> is the next version of ubuntu going to allow sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure video resolutions?  Does ANYONE know?  I am going to have to switch distributions otherwise
[17:42] <Formode> inx-live, AllowIcecastWAN,*LAN,**,8000
[17:42] <inx-live> new-tu: I feel your pain
[17:42] <new-tu> going ot have that tool bacl
[17:42] <danbhfive> new-tu: have you tried xrandr?
[17:42] <ThinkMinus> Pici: It's working now....ty!
[17:43] <new-tu> danbhfive: I have already been through that... it will not change the 640x480 I was stuck with
[17:43] <rtx3462> new-tu: then it is a driver problem anyway
[17:43] <Formode> inx-live, Port is forwarded. >>
[17:43] <new-tu> inx-live: thanks... glad to know someone else is annoyed with it
[17:43] <inx-live> Formode: I doubt that I can help beyond what I have already said
[17:44] <Formode> inx-live, Thanks. :)
[17:44] <ShinyHat> when i push 'select best server' for synaptic's sources, synaptic totally freezes. any thoughts?
[17:44] <Ax3> don't use synaptic when you can use the command line
[17:44] <Ax3> ;)
[17:44] <new-tu> i will go find a distro that does not make video such a pain to use.  Thanks anyway...
[17:44] <Ax3> lol new-tu
[17:45] <Ax3> fail.
[17:45]  * eseven_ wishes him luck
[17:45] <rtx3462> new-tu: new Xorg versions will do the same, also on other distros
[17:45] <kpettit> I'm using gnome network-manager to connect to my pptp vpn.  Works great, but I'm trying to setup some routes.  Anything custom I seem to add to my VPN configuration gets lost, it's like it never saves.  Any ideas?
[17:45] <ShinyHat> Ax3: i'm still a bit too new to all this to be comfortable with the command line- learning though
[17:46] <Formode> shinyhat, It's fun :D
[17:46] <Ax3> ShinyHat, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/apt-get.html
[17:46] <eseven_> no way else to learn it Shinyhat you just have to get right in there and just do it
[17:46] <inx-live> ShinyHat: shameless plug - http://inx.maincontent.net
[17:46]  * inx-live runs
[17:46] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I got this wusb54gcsv2 that I tried to ndis the win drivers for it and no dice tried the -a to assign it and still no dice. I also have a v1 of the same nic that does work on my boxes and tried the v1 set of drivers and still nothing. Anybody have any luck with these nics? Cant find much of anything on the net on it either.
[17:46] <ganesh> why i can write only 4.3 gb out of 4.7 gb of data in a dvd in ubuntu?
[17:46] <jshriver> how can you configure the network from the cli?
[17:46] <Ax3> don't plug shady looking web sites
[17:46] <Ax3> jshriver, ifconfig
[17:47] <cast> ganesh: dvds aren't actually 4.7gb
[17:47] <inx-live> Ax3: not shady at all
[17:47] <jshriver> I tried editing /etc/network/interfaces but didnt do anything.
[17:47] <ganymede> strange obscure error, not sure if anyone will be able to help me: while using claws-mail 3.6.0 on kde 4.2.0, and with x11vnc running and tightvnc's java vnc client on the client side, right clicking on folders in claws-mail sometimes causes Xorg usage to go up to 99% forever and kill -9 on Xorg and parent/child processes does nothing; system has to be rebooting. can anyone help me?
[17:47] <inx-live> Ax3: Helpful for cli beginners
[17:47] <ganesh> cast, but i can write 4.7 gb in windows
[17:47] <cast> A DVD-R typically has a storage capacity of 4.71 GB (or 4.38 GiB)
[17:47] <Ax3> inx-live, point beginners to ubuntuforums or help.ubuntu.com
[17:48] <cast> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte
[17:48] <inx-live> Ax3: *sigh* did you bother to look at the site?
[17:48] <inx-live> Ax3: for heaven's sake..
[17:49] <Ax3> inx-live, I did, but standardized support docs provided by the community are typically of higher quality and will lead them to other topics too.
[17:49] <inx-live> Ax3: do a whois on me than look me up on launchpad
[17:50] <inx-live> Ax3: Thanks for the compliment - I wrote it :|
[17:50] <Formode> inx-live = Awesome. :)
[17:50] <inx-live> Ax3: Keep an open mind, OK?
[17:50] <Ax3> inx-live, I didn't say your site wasn't useful, but it's important to get people used to checking the common support places.;-)
[17:50] <Pici> !ot
[17:51] <Formode> !beer
[17:51] <Formode> :D
[17:51] <inx-live> Ax3: Listen, I practicallylived on this channel from 2004 to 2007 and I always pointed people to Ubuntu docs. If you used inx you owuld see that it also point people to those docs
[17:52] <Droopsta915> Why wont my .pdf document save with the new changes? It's a pdf form that I am filling out, when I'm done I click on save a copy, rename the file, click save and when I open it it'sblank!
[17:52] <inx-live> Ax3: as i said, open mind
[17:53] <Ax3> inx-live, :p
[17:54] <inx-live> Ax3: BTW peopel are working on making inx into an ubuntu package you can run on an installed Ubuntu (hopeful that will happen)
[17:55] <inx-live> Ax3: I specifically wrote INX to help people, which is what I was doing for Ubuntu from 2004 :)
[17:56] <Formode> !beer Inx-live
[17:56] <abe3k> on
[17:56] <Ax3> inx-live, cool, I personally tell people to do a gentoo installation if they want to learn what's going on. ;-)
[17:57]  * Ax3 grins
[17:57] <Pici> This is still the Ubuntu support channel, lets try to keep it on topic folks.
[17:57] <Pici> #ubuntu-offtopic exists if just just want to chat.
[17:57] <ShinyHat> when shutting down, the bar reaches the end on the splash screen, then just sits until i push some random keys, then the machine powers down. how do fix that?
[17:57] <Ax3> yes yes Pici :p
[17:58] <inx-live> Pici: Only reason I mentioned inx is that it is an Ubuntu remix that helps people with Ubuntu - see you later
[17:58] <jase_> inx may i pm you?
[17:58] <inx-live> jase_: sure
[17:58] <Mwaun> !gnu
[17:58] <Ax3> !lull | Pici
[17:58] <Pici> Ax3: Please don't do that.
[17:59] <ShinyHat> when shutting down, the bar reaches the end on the splash screen, then just sits until i push some random keys, then the machine powers down. how do fix that?
[17:59] <Ax3> im just saying that when there's a temporary decline in channel activity, chatting about linux topics is relatively harmless
[17:59] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to set a system wide keyboard shortcut that pastes a datestamp?
[18:00] <amikrop> Hello. Some time I found a package that let me change the brightness of my webcam, but now I can't find it. Any help, please?
[18:00] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, what bar?
[18:00] <scunizi> Ax3: that's what ubuntu-offtopic is for.  doing it here just opens the gates for others to make the determination of what "busy" or "lull" is..
[18:00] <ShinyHat> marcel1607: the graphic progress bar on the splash screen
[18:00] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, when you shutdown you mean?
[18:00] <amikrop> Hello. Some time I found a package that let me change the brightness of my webcam, but now I can't find it. Any help, please?
[18:01] <ShinyHat> marcel1607: yeah
[18:01] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, do you use kde/gome?
[18:01] <ShinyHat> marcel1607: intrepid
[18:01] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, ubuntu, not kubuntu?
[18:01] <Ax3> scunizi, understandable, I can't promise it won't happen again ;)
[18:01] <prince_jammys> amikrop: do a `apt-cache search webcam' and see if your memory is refreshed
[18:01] <ShinyHat> marcel1607: yees
[18:02] <amikrop> prince_jammys: The package wasn't in the repositories.
[18:02] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, what could be the case is that some service is not shutting down correctly
[18:02] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, you can disable some services like bluetooth if you dont need it
[18:02] <ubuntu_problemos> hey desperate for help on the partition front folks. i've cloned my drive with dd to a bigger one, but now there's loads of unallocated space after the swap in gparted from livecd and i can't expand into it?? please help
[18:02] <prince_jammys> amikrop: ah.
[18:02] <Formode> Trying to get MPD streaming to my icecast server... Icecast is working, MPD is working, the output is set, but when I navigate to the file I get "File not found"
[18:03] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, i dont know out of my head where in ubuntu, but somewhere in the menus system you can do service management or something
[18:03] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, startup services
[18:03] <ShinyHat> marcel1607: everything powers down correctly during a restart, though, and to get it to power down after the splash screen freezes i just have to push a few buttons on the keyboard
[18:03] <ubuntu_problemos> i'm using the livecd now. my clone worked great, tried it and it all booted etc. but in gparted now on livecd and can't make the partition bigger. it's got sda1 as my main partition, then sda2 extended with swap on and then a ton of unallocated after that...
[18:04] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: you have to allocate the space first.. format and then move things around.. unless it's swap...in which case you move swap to the end first so the unallocated space is next to what you want to make larger.
[18:04] <b4chip1> hi there
[18:04] <ShinyHat> marcel1607: doesn't seem to matter which buttons
[18:04] <marcel1607> ShinyHat, yes you told that
[18:04] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi, how or what do i allocated it to? i tried making it another ext3 but that doesnt seem to help
[18:04] <amikrop> prince_jammys: thanks, though
[18:05] <iluminator1001> Can anyone help me setup up hamachi on ubuntu?
[18:05] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: it seems to make it as sda3, but not add it to sda1...
[18:05] <i3> hi all. I'm having problems setting up my ethernet connection. I've temporary installed a wireles one to get online.lspci tells me it's an RTL-8110SC/8169SC Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10), still using I get no response from dhclient
[18:05] <b4chip1> how can i restart my proftpd server in oder to take into account the modifications I've made in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[18:06] <kitche> b4chip1: restart the initscript
[18:06] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: if swap is going to be between the unallocated space and what ever is at the beginning of the drive then create a new swap and change fstab to reflect that.. then on next boot you can delete the old swap partition so that space merges with the current unallocated space.. from there you might be able to just "expand" what's at the beginning of the drive (ext3?).. without formatting
[18:06] <Ax3> iluminator1001, if there's a binary available just use that. or are you wanting to compile from source
[18:06] <b4chip1> kitche: how can i do that? I'm really new to linux/gnu/ubuntu
[18:07] <scunizi> b4chip1: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[18:07] <Ax3> b4chip1, cd /etc/init.d
[18:07] <rmrfslash> Does anyone have a ATI Mobilty Radeon?
[18:07] <b4chip1> yes, i did what Scunzi said...still no efect
[18:07] <Ax3> scunizi won that one
[18:07] <Ax3> lol
[18:07] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi, how do i get the swap to the end of the drive though?
[18:07] <Formode> Got it!
[18:07] <scunizi> rmrfslash: nobody uses those.. :)
[18:08] <rmrfslash> no one
[18:08] <Ax3> my dad has an ATI radeon 9200, so that's silly :p
[18:08] <rmrfslash> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670 to be exact
[18:08] <Ax3> and whats the issue rmrfslash ?
[18:08] <rmrfslash> suspend
[18:09] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: with gparted or partition manager (the same program) .. use it to create new space at the end formatted as swap.. edit /etc/fstab to reflect swaps new partition designation.. and then use gparted again to delete the old swap partition
[18:09] <rmrfslash> with the driver enabled, I can't resume from suspend
[18:09] <rmrfslash> black screen
[18:09] <smetj> hello, I was looking into the reason why xen as a dom0 isn't included officially in ubuntu server,... Besides this, they seem to promote kvm as their virtualisation technology, ... but is KVM actually production ready?
[18:09] <rmrfslash> can move over to a virtual console (whatever Ctrl + Alt + F4 is)
[18:09] <rmrfslash> can't
[18:09] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: but it says my swap now is Extended, whatever that is... but when i copy and paste the swap to unallocated it's not extended...
[18:09] <kitche> smetj: yes of course it's been production ready for many months
[18:10] <Ax3> rmrfslash, hmm that's outside my expertise, sorry. i'd try searching around ubuntuforums.org, or check out ATI's support pages for more information.  Perhaps this is a bug? :)
[18:10] <rmrfslash> sounds like a bug to me ;)
[18:10] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: how many partitions on this secondary drive?
[18:11] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: i've only got one drive in the machine. the cloned one. it's 1tb.
[18:11] <smetj> kitche: I'm personally a xen adept (it's used at the company I work for)  and I'm open to kvm, but it's not that known to me
[18:11] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: ok.. how many partitions on that drive?
[18:11] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: and it has sda1 and sda2 on it, sda2 is extended and within that there's a swap
[18:11] <kitche> smetj: well I believe xen is not supported sicne ubuntu is meant more for desktop
[18:11] <ranco33> hi,, i need cambozola.jar
[18:11] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: then a load of unallocated after it
[18:11] <cast> kvm and xen are two quite different pieces of technology
[18:11] <chachin> wow
[18:11] <chachin> 1474 people
[18:12] <smetj> kitche: humm, I can't agree with that statement
[18:12] <chachin> and no owner
[18:12] <dquestions> where can i get the alternative (no gui) version of ubuntu?
[18:12] <cast> chachin: of course there is an 'owner'
[18:12] <smetj> cast: yes,  but with the same purpose
[18:12] <ranco33>  cambozola.jar busco y no lo encuentro es para el zoneminder  la direcion q sale ya no existe
[18:12] <dquestions> i went to the dl page but i cant find it anymore ,.... been a long time
[18:12] <cast> smetj: depends, i'd say.
[18:12] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: ok.. that makes sense now.. don't copy and paste the swap partition to the unallocated space. simply create a new partition at the END of the drive for a new swap.
[18:13] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: 1 gig ought to be enough
[18:13] <chachin> aw dang it i haz to be +o to invite >:[
[18:13] <cast> smetj: xen is a hypervisor, don't think it needs linux at all
[18:14] <jase_> dquestions do you mean the alternate version?
[18:14] <kitche> cast: xen needs a host system unless you buy the big version
[18:14] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: ah cracked it! i've made the swap fill the unallocated, then reduced it to be at end of unallocated, then resized the sda1 to fill the bit in middle! sweet
[18:14] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: thanks for the help
[18:14] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: glad it worked out
[18:15] <smetj> I guess i have to catch up with some reading about the state of kvm
[18:15] <ubuntu_problemos> scunizi: it's renamed my swap to sda5 strangely though. so should i change my fstab?
[18:15] <smetj> but not having dom0 support for xen raised my eye browes a bit
[18:16] <abe3k> sion
[18:16] <cast> kitche: xen runs on the bare metal, what do you mean needs a host system? it needs a dom0 to be useful, sure
[18:16] <scunizi> rmrfslash: still around?  suspend might not be functioning because your swap is too small.. suspend (or hybernate I get them confused) need apx 1.5x of ram swap space to function correctly.
[18:16] <scunizi> ubuntu_problemos: yes
[18:17] <saurabh_> hello
[18:17] <cast> kitche: wouldn't refer to dom0 as a host system though, seeing as dom0 is running ontop of xen
[18:17] <saurabh_> how can i check whether my mick is working in ubuntu
[18:17] <dquestions> where i get me some alternate ubuntus cds?
[18:17] <saurabh_> how can i check whether my mike is working in ubuntu
[18:17] <eseven_> mic*
[18:18] <scunizi> dquestions: ubuntu.com follow the download link and you'll see a small link bottom right
[18:18] <dquestions> thanks
[18:19] <rmrfslash> didn'tyes
[18:19] <rmrfslash> woops
[18:19] <rmrfslash> yes,im around
[18:19] <dquestions> i dont really want a gui
[18:19] <rmrfslash> i just chose the default partition
[18:19] <dquestions> should i choose the server edition then?
[18:19] <eseven_> dquestions: yep
[18:20] <rmrfslash> scunizi: I just chose the default partition.... no swap partition
[18:20] <scunizi> dquestions: the alternate cd is a text installer for the desktop environment.. if you want to eliminate the gui install server and add the packages you want
[18:20] <rmrfslash> well.... no separate swap partition
[18:20] <dquestions> hmm
[18:20] <dquestions> =-(
[18:20] <MaT-dg> I need an IRC client with XDCC capabilities under ubuntu... any recommendations?
[18:20] <dquestions> server edition is still like 637 mb
[18:20] <scunizi> rmrfslash: on install when you choose default it will create a swap but I don't know how large.. you can find out with sudo fdisk -l in terminal
[18:20] <cast> MaT-dg: xdcc being?
[18:21] <eseven_> MaT-dg: maybe Mirc + Wine
[18:21] <MaT-dg> cast: XDCC is for filesharing using bots in IRC channels
[18:21] <rmrfslash> 11863971 blocks
[18:22] <scunizi> dquestions: if you're looking for small sized installer images.. I'll have ubottu send you a link
[18:22] <rmrfslash> how do I find the block size?
[18:22] <scunizi> !install | rmrfslash
[18:22] <scunizi> rmrfslash: block size?  I've no idea
[18:22] <CenterTest> I wont to watch TV in  Ubuntu by using cart TV it's in my pc,how can I do that
[18:23] <_VIM_> !TV | CenterTest
[18:23] <b4chip1> how can i see 0 with bar nad not 0...bc i comnfund it with o
[18:23] <erle-> where is the stuff in gnome "application menu" stored?
[18:23] <erle-> i want to get rid of the wine entries
[18:23] <CenterTest> ok tanks
[18:23] <zash> erle-: just disable it with alacarte
[18:23] <zash> erle-: or whatever the menu-editor is called
[18:23] <_VIM_> erle-: Preferences >Main Menu
[18:24] <Cruelty> Hey there. I'm using a GFX in a Theme... It should just be displayed to users who are not logged in... How to du? " !if_login " ?
[18:24] <Cruelty> I just nead the function. :)
[18:24] <Cruelty> need*
[18:24] <erle-> zash, thank you
[18:25] <ivve> Anyone know if it's possible to run Microsoft Office under ubuntu?
[18:25] <rmrfslash> apparently, if each block is 1K
[18:25] <ivve> or xubuntu?
[18:25] <rmrfslash> I have 11 GB swap partition
[18:25] <rmrfslash> (4GB RAM)
[18:26] <Cruelty> Can no one help me? :-/
[18:26] <LjL> ivve: certain versions, yes, with WINE
[18:26] <LjL> !wine > ivve    (ivve, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:26] <ivve> aye so I can just run it under Wine then?
[18:26] <cast> rmrfslash: don't feel that's a bit excessive?
[18:27] <Cruelty> Oh Laughing Out Loud
[18:27] <Cruelty> Sorry.. Wrong channel :D
[18:27] <elashish> I've got a slight problem - my computer shuts off all by itself after xorg runs for about 15 seconds
[18:27] <elashish> any ideas why?
[18:27] <elashish> i think the graphics are 855GM
[18:28] <physis> i've got another problem :)
[18:28] <daeron> hello again ;P
[18:28] <rmrfslash> yes
[18:28] <physis> any easy peasy users
[18:28] <rmrfslash> I'm still trying to confirm the block size on this partition
[18:28] <physis> or familiar
[18:28] <rmrfslash> not sure what the default is
[18:28] <Huufarted> Anybody know how to change the horizontal/vertical orientation of the menu text in the gnome panels?  I moved a panel and the text is trying to print vertical on a horizontal panel
[18:30] <o0Chris0o> how do I install the gdm theme manager
[18:30] <daeron> each time I try to emerge anything that uses gcc I get "configure: error: C++ compiler cannoc create executables". I've just started building another gentoo from official 2008 amd64 stage 3. Any ideas how to solve that?
[18:31] <amikrop> I was looking for v4l2ucp.
[18:31] <amikrop> The utility ofr webcam brightness setting.
[18:31] <amikrop> * for
[18:32] <ftab_> When I install VirtualBox it gives me the KDE look & feel on Gnome
[18:32] <ftab_> and If i install Virtualbox-ose then its fine what could be the problem?
[18:32] <LjL> ftab_: that's because it's a Qt app.
[18:32] <rmmRMM> just wondering -- what's the quaity of SIP videoconferencing with Ekiga?
[18:32] <ftab_> LjL: what about the virtualbox-ose?
[18:33] <ftab_> LjL: are you there?
[18:33] <LjL> ftab_: no problem really, it's probably just that virtualbox-ose, being an ubuntu package, is compiled to try to use a theme that better matches your GNOME desktop (while still being a Qt app), while on the other hand the VirtualBox you download elsewhere is just a statically linked binary.
[18:33] <LjL> ftab_: yes, i'm here, but i haven't been able to beat the world record of typing speed yet
[18:34] <ftab_> LjL: thank you for the response :) I got worried if some one would reply or not
[18:34] <o0Chris0o> ftab_: was only a few min difference :D
[18:35] <ftab_> any way, is there any package available for UBUNTU ? which should have a gnome look & feel?
[18:35] <LjL> ftab_: i don't know, but what's wrong with virtualbox-ose to begin with?
[18:35] <ftab_> USB support :(
[18:36] <SeViLLa> ftab_: i got the usb to work just by creating a share
[18:37] <ftab_> no I  want to access my Pocket PC using ActiveSync from windows
[18:37] <LjL> ftab_: you do know there are tools available to access your Pocket PC straight from Ubuntu?
[18:37] <Ax3> hey guys, i made some adjustments to my xorg.conf in the Jaunty alpha, how do I restart X so the changes take place. (this is the live .iso)
[18:37] <ftab_> I guess there is Kync
[18:37] <ftab_> *Ksync
[18:38] <daftykins> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" in terminal should work Ax3
[18:38] <ftab_> but that doesn't support all the features, I would like to connect through GPRS to my laptop
[18:38] <rmrfslash> i dunno, looks like ubuntu chose an 11 GB swap partition
[18:38] <rmrfslash> for 4 GB of memory
[18:38] <Ax3> daftykins, thank you
[18:38] <rmrfslash> seems a little ridiculous
[18:38] <daftykins> np
[18:38] <skyshadow> hello
[18:39] <divXjunky> hello ppl, i reinstalled my hardy. i took with me my 'eggdrop' which i compiled from source in /home/eggdrop/
[18:39] <rmrfslash> can't really argue that I don't have enough swap space for..... hibernate.
[18:39] <rmrfslash> Wait a minute, I think I originally asked about suspend
[18:39] <divXjunky> now it has a tcl error, eventhough tcl IS installed
[18:39] <rmrfslash> why the hell am I going into swap size/
[18:39] <ftab_> LjL: there is a QGTKStyle which provides the native look and feel for QT applications in Gnome but that is still in LAB :(
[18:39] <daftykins> may need to be recompiled with a new version divXjunky
[18:40] <divXjunky> i don't remember the 'aptitude' command i need
[18:40] <Ax3> what error divXjunky, is this a pathing issue?
[18:40] <divXjunky> ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:40] <skyshadow> вы придурки!!!!!!!
[18:40] <LjL> ftab_: there are instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile for using a Windows device as a wireless modem
[18:40] <lime> hi room
[18:40] <LjL> !ru | skyshadow
[18:40] <rmrfslash> Ok, so back to my original question: Why is it that when I suspend with the ATI driver enabled, the machine never resumes
[18:40] <Ax3> !ru | skyshadow
[18:40] <daftykins> "apt-cache search tcl" divXjunky  ?
[18:41] <divXjunky> lemme try, i need to run that IN the eggdrop folder, right?
[18:41] <daftykins> no it's just to look for package names with "tcl in" divXjunky
[18:41] <lime> how do i know the latest kernel version available on the reposatory
[18:42] <irish> does anyone know of any documentation on how to get libasound 1.0.17 i'm getting a dependency error
[18:42] <daftykins> "apt-cache showpkg linux-image-generic" i think lime
[18:43] <divXjunky> sorry, daftykins, but that command doesnot work
[18:43] <lime> thanks irish , i will try it
[18:43] <daftykins> what does it say divXjunky  ?
[18:43] <divXjunky> bash: apt-cashe: command not found
[18:43] <daftykins> you typo'd
[18:44] <divXjunky> right, i see.... (feeling dumb right now...)
[18:44] <daftykins> dw :) we're human
[18:44] <hoban> what's the best-practice for disabling a service in a particular run level using upstart? (I want Ubuntu to _not_ launch GDM when I boot up)
[18:44] <supergentl> hi
[18:45] <supergentl> hello
[18:45] <divXjunky> daftykins, lots of result, lots of lines with ' Tcl 8.5"
[18:45] <supergentl> I want write arabic how?
[18:45] <dr_dasos> I'm trying to connect to my school's wireless network and it requires me to connect via PEAP and a couple other settings, whenever i do this my laptop totally freezes, is there a way to try and connect via command line if i think the gnome network manager is at fault? Running 8.10 amd64 (wireless works fine at home)
[18:46] <daftykins> yeah, check you've got the right one installed then divXjunky , it's possible a newer package ver is preventing your eggdrop from running as-is, or perhaps you need to create a path environment variable for where the libs are (as your error mentioned libtcl.8.5.so)
[18:47] <daftykins> i have to go now, back in a few
[18:48] <dr_dasos> or where would i find the error logs associated with connecting to the wireless network
[18:49] <lime> is there a way to see 4G ram on ubuntu 8.10 32 bit ?
[18:49] <SlimeyPete> !pae
[18:49] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[18:49] <SlimeyPete> well, you'll need to enable PAE somehow
[18:49] <SlimeyPete> possibly by installing a new kernel
[18:49] <rmrfslash> I think pae is enabled on Ubuntu Server kernel
[18:49] <cast> lime: yes. but why bother with 32bit? :)
[18:50] <SlimeyPete> that'll allow you to see >3GB total, though individual processes can still only see 3GB (or 4... I forget)
[18:50] <zombine> !wifi-radar
[18:51] <judget_> Hey in Ubuntu Hardy the browser is fiorefox but the plugins belong in the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder
[18:51] <different> i want to uninstall windows from my pc so that i can install ubuntu on c drive but i want to keep my windows recovery partition intact but i am worried when i want to use recovery later ubunu on c drive will be formatted what to do
[18:51] <judget_> can anyone clarify this? Is the browser firefox or mozilla?
[18:52] <cast> judget_: firefox.
[18:52] <lime> cast , actually I am new to ubuntu and I am afrade that i will lose all current setting with 64 bit server
[18:52] <judget_> OK but it seems to have its plugins in the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder and that may be confusing for some
[18:52] <ToXBoT> judget_, Mozilla is the organization
[18:52] <ToXBoT> and firefox is the Browser
[18:52] <cast> lime: settings for?
[18:52] <judget_> I am trying to understand why this is
[18:53] <lime> oracle , ...
[18:53] <UnderTaker> How are system76 laptops?
[18:53] <judget_> Coz if you go by the instructions on the sun java site and you put the symbolic link in the /usr/lib/firefox.x.x.x... structure it dont work
[18:54] <judget_> The help about says Mozilla Firefox so IM assuming thst it is using Moxilla as a foundation?
[18:54] <lime> can I do upgrade? from 32 to 64 without clean instllation ?
[18:54] <cast> lime: can't
[18:55] <lime> thanks cats,,
[18:55] <zombine> Does anyone here work with Wifi-Radar?
[18:55] <jgreen> anyone have advice on working with large files?
[18:56] <judget_> why do you want to use wifi radar?
[18:56] <hoban> what's the best-practice for disabling a service in a particular run level using upstart? (I want Ubuntu to _not_ launch GDM when I boot up)
[18:56] <jgreen> vim is very slow when trying to walk through it
[18:56] <jgreen> I would to manipulate some data inside of it
[18:56] <jgreen> * I would like to manipulate some data inside of it
[18:56] <zombine> judget_: I'm trying a minimal setup, so I'm looking for alternatives to KnetworkManager/nm-applet
[18:57] <judget_> Oh I had good luck with the gnome network manager
[18:57] <judget_> I have some instructions I wrote up if you want them-zombie
[18:58] <lime> How I can define SIM_CARD_CONNECTOR on my laptop dell xps m1210 ?
[18:58] <unop> hoban,  see the manpage of  update-rc.d
[18:58] <hoban> unop: I was there. Is that the best practice?
[18:58] <hoban> unop: that man page says *not* to use it directly as an admin
[18:59] <unop> hoban,  it's a tool for the job - so i suppose so
[18:59] <unop> hoban, eh? which line?
[18:59] <zombine> judget_: I'm currently using gnome's network manager, and it works, but I'm still up for alternatives
[18:59] <danbhfive> are there other interface builders like GLADE?
[18:59] <hoban> unop: search for the line starting: "Please note that this program was designed..."
[19:01] <hoban> unop: so it says there to use a tool like sysv-rc-conf or bum, yet both of those packages are not officially supported by canonical
[19:02] <unop> hoban, that's not what it's saying - it's saying since there's limited functionality with update-rc.d (I disagree) - people are not encouraged to use it  - but that's subjective advice.
[19:02] <hoban> unop: which is why I came here :)
[19:02] <brandonban6> does anyone know of an equivalent to Belarc Advisor for linux?
[19:02] <lime> How I can define my SIM_CARD_CONNECTOR on my laptop dell xps m1210 ?
[19:02] <hoban> unop: I'm wanting to know what canonical would support and I can't find any documentation on their site covering runlevel management
[19:03] <RenatoSilva> 	I have my CVS pserver configured in /etc/xinetd.d/cvs file. How to restart this specific inetd subservice, rather than the whole super server?
[19:03] <quentusrex> How can I find out what programs are using the '71%' used by programs?
[19:03] <unop> hoban, well, i use it, a lot of other people do too.  and what's wrong with sysv-rc-conf ??  apart from not being 'officially supported'
[19:04] <hoban> brandonban6, use a combination of tools: lshw for hardware profiling (for example) and the package manager to show installed packages and updates available
[19:04] <Ax3> quentusrex, top should give a good indication of what's in use
[19:04] <quentusrex> is that virtual memory or residential memory?
[19:04] <quentusrex> ok
[19:04] <hoban> unop: I am only allowed to use officially supported software on this server
[19:04] <hector__> Hi people I want to back up my current ubuntu installation and make it into a live cd
[19:04] <Ax3> quentusrex, add the ubuntu universe repo into your sources, then apt-get install htop
[19:04] <hector__> how would i do that?
[19:04] <supertanker> How do I disable that dialog box that pops prompting for my password whenever I SSH into something and just use the old-school method of typing it into the terminal?
[19:05] <hoban> unop, but that seems like the best solution. Thank you for confirming my suspicions
[19:05] <remink> Someone use emesene + XFCE ?
[19:05] <cast> supertanker: could just use ssh  keys
[19:05] <supertanker> cast, I am
[19:05] <RenatoSilva> I have my CVS pserver configured in /etc/xinetd.d/cvs file. How to restart this specific inetd subservice, rather than the whole super server?
[19:05] <cast> :(
[19:06] <unop> hoban, well, by that reckoning - you might as well not use 99% of packages in ubuntu's repositories :)
[19:06] <hoban> unop: and sadly, I can't :(
[19:06] <brandonban6> thanks hoban
[19:06] <hoban> unop: I'm allowed to use the packages provided on the DVD
[19:06] <hoban> brandonban6, np
[19:06] <supertanker> Oh
[19:07] <supertanker> I can just remove ssh-gnome-askpass
[19:07] <maxb> Having them included on the DVD magically makes them "better" ?
[19:07] <hoban> brandonban6, try this: "lshw -html > myhw.html && firefox myhw.html"
[19:07] <hoban> maxb, nope, not better. just supported
[19:07] <recon62> anyone got a link to the page that gives instructions on reporting kernel crashes?
[19:08] <hoban> main/restricted are on the DVD. those the the packages that canonical supports
[19:08] <maxb> Define "supports", though
[19:08] <hoban> maxb: if I call technical support and I have a support contract, they will walk me through the issue(s)
[19:08] <quentusrex> Ax3: what is the mem usage for the mem graph at the top?
[19:08] <supertanker> Second question: How does that dynamic MotD work?
[19:09] <supertanker> The one that shows system status when you log into the command line?
[19:09] <quentusrex> I have 8GB of ram, and 5 GB is used....
[19:09] <Flannel> maxb: Things in universe/multiverse are community supported
[19:09] <quentusrex> that isn't right...
[19:09] <maxb> Ah, fair enough, if you actually have a support contract
[19:09] <Flannel> quentusrex: You're right.  You should have 8GB used
[19:09] <quentusrex> Flannel: NONE of the 5GB is used by cache...
[19:09] <Ax3> quentusrex, what program are you using?
[19:09] <__mikem> Flannel, I disabled IPv6 and my internet connection is still unreliable
[19:09] <hoban> maxb: exactly
[19:09] <Ax3> quentusrex, pastebin: cat /proc/meminfo
[19:09] <quentusrex> something is using all the ram so that there is no space for cache...
[19:10] <quentusrex> I'm using htop
[19:10] <quentusrex> is it residential memory? or virtual memory that I should be concerned about ?
[19:10] <hoban> htop is sweet. I just found out that I can highlight a process in htop and type "s" to attache strace to it
[19:10] <__mikem> oh crap I am in the wrong channel :(
[19:10] <bertodsera> can anyone help with a problem on apt-get update? It's a debian machine, but sources.list works the same anyway. Update always worked, the all of a sudden it says "W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org stable Release: Couldn't access keyring: 'No such file or directory'". I'm running as root, the keyring is imported on my machine, when I list the kays I see them and the keyring file...
[19:10] <bertodsera> ...appears to be in place in the remote rep. Any hint?
[19:11] <pavs> loving the new 3 Ubuntu jaunty themes.
[19:11] <hoban> unop & maxb: I'm out. Thanks for the help
[19:11] <Vonor> pavs, screenies?
[19:11] <maxb> bertodsera: #debian on irc.oftc.net would be a better place to ask (and quieter too)
[19:12] <bertodsera> maxb: if only anyone there had a clue at what's the problem :)
[19:12] <raevol> is it possible to dpkg -i packages by hand from the alternate install cd?
[19:12] <bertodsera> I 've been there already
[19:12] <Flannel> raevol: Of course.
[19:12] <pavs> Vonor: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-9-04-039-s-New-Themes-106961.shtml
[19:12] <raevol> Flannel: thanks, just cd to the dir they'rein? will it resolve dependencies from the packages in the disk?
[19:12] <pavs> I am using "Dust" theme
[19:13] <Tesseraction> Ugh
[19:13] <maxb> bertodsera: I don't see any bertodsera there
[19:13] <bertodsera> coming in a sec
[19:13] <Tesseraction> Anyone got a Toshiba Equium with Ubuntu working?
[19:13] <Tesseraction> Is there any specific voodoo required to feel the love?
[19:13] <Flannel> raevol: yes, and no.  What's wrong with adding the CD to your sources? (then it'll resolve depends)
[19:13] <Metatron> everytime i boot, im getting a dialog during boot, stating something is wrong with video, it ask me if i want to use low res graphics, reconfigure video, or use a backup configuration...whats doing this? could it be me trying to enable nvida 180 driver under jaunty?
[19:14] <raevol> Flannel: it'll be from a usb image? do i just put the path to it in my apt.list with proper formatting?
[19:14] <Flannel> raevol: Mmmm.  No, you can't do that.  You use apt-cdrom to add it, and I'm not sure it'll work with an iso (certainly can't hurt to try)
[19:14] <Vonor> do you guys know a better tool for creating a custom ubuntu cd than remastersys? (tool, not doing yourself howto :D) basically am looking for something that allows me to chose the packages that should get included in an install, modify config files so they are used on the new system instead of the default ones and also brand the cd with custom logos and usplash themes
[19:15] <raevol> Flannel: well it's not just an iso, it's a usb drive formatted as an install disk?
[19:16] <under> Hi there.
[19:16] <Vonor> pavs, looks nice, my custom theme looks better, though :)
[19:16] <Flannel> raevol: I don't know.  Best thing to do would be to try it. `sudo apt-cdrom add` (and if/when that doesn't work, try it with -d to specify a location)
[19:16] <under> Anyone knows any HD integrity checker for linux/ubuntu?
[19:16] <raevol> Flannel: ok thanks
[19:17] <juanefren> Does exist a bittorrent client for console ?
[19:17] <Vonor> under, badblocks, fsck..
[19:17] <LjL> under: you mean physical integrity, or filesystem integrity?
[19:17] <under> physical integrity.
[19:17] <Goodgame> hi
[19:18] <Vonor> badblocks, then
[19:18] <LjL> under: then badblocks and smartmontools
[19:18] <under> Oh, thank you.
[19:18] <Goodgame> how can I decrease my screen brightness?
[19:18] <xixor> tell xixor about gnome-desktop
[19:18] <LjL> !msgthebot > xixor    (xixor, see the private message from ubottu)
[19:18] <xixor> !msgthebot
[19:18] <LjL> *sigh*
[19:19] <xixor> thanks :)
[19:19] <tlord> Hi! Anyone with experience upgrading 8.10 to 9.4 alpha 6 (the first 9.4 version I've tried)? My upgrade process seems to be taking an awfully long time at "Preconfiguring packages ..." The side-to-side animated bar keeps moving side to side, though, and I can play Tetris in the background -- but it's been "Preconfiguring" now for more than two hours.
[19:19] <Icebuntu> ﻿okey tc bye
[19:21] <tlord> My process was to back up all the data on the laptop, do a clean install of 8.10, then update-manager -g. Spent all night getting the packages :)
[19:21] <xixor> LjL: I can't figure this bot out, how do I get it to tell me about installing gnome desktop, compiz-fusion, that sort of thing?
[19:21] <xixor> LjL: also, how do I go about getting its help menu as well?
[19:21] <GeorgeAScott> hi, im trying to build raul-0.5.1 and its not able to find glibmm-2.4.  i see though, that i have a libglibmm of the correct version. it says i can adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if i installed in a non standard prefix
[19:21] <LjL> xixor: you have a private messages window/tab open with it, right?
[19:21] <GeorgeAScott> but that part has a bit lost
[19:21] <xixor> LjL: yes, I have a chat going with it
[19:22] <LjL> xixor: so just type the factoid name that you want.
[19:22] <LjL> xixor: for help, type, "help".
[19:22] <LjL> xixor: actually, type "!help". or "bot".
[19:22] <majdi> help
[19:22] <xixor> alright, thanks for that
[19:22] <majdi> bot
[19:22] <xixor> LjL: may be useful to map !help to help
[19:23] <LjL> xixor: no can do
[19:23] <majdi> !help
[19:24] <a-st> Hello. :)
[19:25] <a-st> There is still no print function in eclipse. :(
[19:26] <under> LjL, http://rafb.net/p/V5xEHP43.html 92minutes in 1 second??
[19:26] <LjL> under: yes, you did ask for a long test
[19:27] <LjL> under: i was thinking some more likely merely trying "smartctl -A /dev/whatever"
[19:27] <tlord> So, for anyone who's done the 8.10 --> 9.4 alpha transition, I'd appreciate hearing a) how long I should expect (or tolerate) the "Preconfiguring packages" message ... is there some way to find out whether the process is hung? (Is there something I can look for in th System Monitor?) What happens if I try to stop the process now and start over -- system hosed?
[19:28] <sparky_> Hey guys,  Does anyone have a really good website and/or book/s for the command line?  Such as with all or most with good discriptions of each command and examples?
[19:29] <nomade_marvel> how can i get a cloak?
[19:29] <under> LjL, I wanna do a check becouse I think my HD has problems.
[19:29] <LjL> under: alright, but starting with -A wouldn't have hurt anyway
[19:30] <under> Do you wanna see output?
[19:31] <under> LjL, http://rafb.net/p/YUH6IC43.html !
[19:31] <Huffalump> Adding a Canon printer, I get a "Not Authorized" error saying the password may be wrong. It never asked for a password. what gives?
[19:32] <Huffalump> Hardy Heron, sorry.
[19:32] <RainCT1> Hi. Looks like the installer messed up the partitions when I installed Jaunty, and /dev/sda1 (ext4) is overlapping with /dev/sda5 (swap).. How can I fix this?
[19:32] <LjL> under: the seek error rate and ECC errors look a bit worrying. do run the test.
[19:32] <RainCT1> The output of sfdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/133178/plain/
[19:33] <Picassotamus> !jaunty | RainCT1
[19:33] <RainCT1> Picassotamus: I know, but this is something general (about partitions)
[19:33] <androithe> hi
[19:34] <alexandre> oi
[19:34] <temoto> Hello. distupgrade is not working, because of python. Can i disable python update, but have all other upgraded?
[19:34] <temoto> (jaunty)
[19:34] <temoto> (8.10->jaunty)
[19:34] <androithe> can someone help me here? i would like to know if its possible to mount network shares based on my network connection, so if i'm at home, it should connect to my server, and if im at work it should connect to those servers, how can i do that?
[19:34] <raevol> Flannel: the alternate installer, when i choose command-line install, is forcing me to choose a mirror and won't proceed without it? how can i do this without network?
[19:37] <RainCT1> temoto: what error do you get?
[19:38] <temoto> rtupdate bla bla
[19:38] <Huffalump> Trying to install a printer in 8.04, but it says I am not authorized. I was never asked for a password, so I don't know why. Anyone have a link that explains it?
[19:38] <RainCT1> temoto: please paste the full output at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:39] <ShinyHat> is anyone familiar with logmein? keeps freezing firefox
[19:39] <temoto> yeah, few minutes.. scrolled too much
[19:42] <RainCT1> temoto: I'll be back in a minute, just rebooting to see if my system works again :P
[19:43] <igor_> where i can find the kylix3 for Ubuntu?
[19:43] <cellofellow> any conky users? I'm trying to use mail_spool to watch my system mail but it displays nothing.
[19:45] <jwilcox746> POSTFIX question, how do I change the relay server PostFix points to? I'm a serious Ubuntu newb, so I need step by step. Thanks!
[19:46] <temoto> RainCT: http://paste.ubuntu.com/133185/
[19:46] <RainCT> re
[19:46] <elli222> im thinking of adding runlevels to my rc-default file. will this work?
[19:46] <elli222> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133135/
[19:47] <Vlet> jwilcox746: sounds like a postfix question really
[19:47] <elli222> the "single" bit is left in to show its position...
[19:47] <temoto> RainCT: re?
[19:47] <RainCT> temoto: Oh. Try uninstalling that package and updating afterwards
[19:48] <jwilcox746> VLET; Thanks, I'm searching for a postfix channel.
[19:48] <RainCT> (re = returned, I'm back)
[19:48] <temoto> RainCT: uninstalling python?
[19:48] <RainCT> temoto: no, rtupdate
[19:48] <temoto> ah
[19:48] <fuminglava> i'm using sony vaio with ATI radeon Graphics card. i get a very flickering video (across all players and formats)
[19:48] <Kattollikisd> Hi, I need help here with some Security Update, I month ago, I purged the Amarok from my PC, I and I see 3 Security Update, two of then.. I think that they are from amarok, I should install it?
[19:49] <RainCT> temoto: is that package even from Ubuntu?
[19:49] <temoto> could not find package rtupdate
[19:49] <pronoy> !command_interpreter
[19:49] <RainCT> temoto: oh wait, I'm stupid today
[19:49] <fuminglava> Kattollikisd: you should install all updates if possible
[19:49] <public> My system can not seem to see our Server 2008 DNS
[19:50] <public> any ideas where to start poking
[19:50] <pronoy> can anyone plz tell me what it means when i say in linux and unix os the command interpreter is not integrated in the OS ?
[19:50] <Kattollikisd> fuminglava, ok.... and if it install amarok again ? :S
[19:50] <temoto> public: /etc/resolv.conf
[19:50] <ShinyHat> is anyone familiar with logmein? keeps freezing firefox
[19:51] <RainCT> temoto: it's package libboost-python-dev
[19:51] <jpds> RainCT: Uh-huh.
[19:51] <ShinyHat> i think it might be a java issue
[19:51] <Pirate_Hunter> hi my internet recently has become unstable, where i lose connection, im wondering if this is some sort of bug with the system or something else?
[19:52] <fuminglava> Kattollikisd: its that when u uninstalled amarok, all its dependencies were not uninstalled. the updates are probably for those dependencies, and usseless
[19:52] <Floops[w]> Pirate_Hunter, might be a router/isp issue
[19:52] <fuminglava> !ati
[19:52] <RainCT> jpds: ^^
[19:52] <fuminglava> !ricoh
[19:53] <scott___> can someone help me enable direct rendering with an intel graphics card
[19:53] <RainCT> temoto: FYI, you're experiencing bug #339100
[19:53] <Pirate_Hunter> FloodBot1, I doubt that the router itself show that the internet is connected, im thinking it is from the box itself or ubuntu, i dont think i have the same problem in xp also i believe my net speed has decreased in ubuntu which is weird
[19:53] <Kattollikisd> fuminglava, ok... thanks :)
[19:53] <Tesseraction> Where are the checksums for the iso installers?
[19:54] <fuminglava> :)
[19:54] <elli222> can anyone help me with /etc/event.d/rc-default?
[19:54] <Tesseraction> I'm suspicious my download is crudded up.
[19:54] <temoto> what a nice number i'm experiencing
[19:54] <Floops[w]> Pirate_Hunter, so your not seeing the issue with your other box
[19:54] <Floops[w]> but only ubuntu system... that doesn't make sense
[19:54] <Floops[w]> what about ur connect/cable
[19:55] <JeroenTB> glisigmoli: root blargh is your program than
[19:55] <elli222> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133193/
[19:55] <elli222> will my modifications work?
[19:55] <public> resolv.conf says my nameservers are 10.0.0.2 (which is the DNS server) and .254 which is the gateway
[19:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Floops[w], dont think so i i boot to windows i dont think ive had this issue, ive checked the cable and the router ports.. but really doubt it is that, however will try to determine the problem
[19:55] <public> perhaps its using the gateway to get to net.
[19:55] <micah> hay has anyone gone on hackerskills.com?
[19:56] <public> but is not resolving DNS.   for instance.. i can not ping 10.0.0.2 with the name "smallbiz"
[19:56] <micah> im stuck on level 2
[19:56] <[ucb]kevin_> is there a feature in ubuntu that will allow me to resize all the windows in my current workspace proportionally? (i.e. if i have 4 windows..they will each take a corner of the screen)
[19:56] <tc111> Tesseraction: in the md5sum.txt file
[19:56] <temoto> RainCT: what means "does not have a stanza"?
[19:56] <chaorain> I have a Wubi install inside Vista on my laptop. Is there a way to get my Bluetooth mouse to wrok with both Vista and Ubuntu?
[19:56] <Floops[w]> Pirate_Hunter, ok
[19:57] <eighty7> guten abend
[19:57] <lycan> buongiorno
[19:57] <[ucb]kevin_> is there an ENGLISH server?
[19:57] <JeroenTB> goeieavond
[19:57] <lycan> qualche italiano?
[19:57] <RainCT> temoto: a code block
[19:57] <JeroenTB> this is
[19:57] <[ucb]kevin_> hmmm...
[19:57] <[ucb]kevin_> k
[19:57] <Pici> !it | lycan
[19:58] <lycan> ok english is ok for me
[19:58] <[ucb]kevin_> heh i c -- then this should technically #ubuntu-en
[19:58] <JeroenTB> nope
[19:58] <JeroenTB> english is default
[19:58] <Geek`N`Proud`> chaorain: you will need to give more detail before we can effectively assist you - like the make/model of the mouse the hardware providing bluetooth support in your machine (is it a USB bluetooth adapter or PCI?)
[19:58] <eighty7> Good evening :)
[19:58] <lycan> good evening
[19:58] <lycan> hey
[19:59] <lycan> someone can help me
[19:59] <Kattollikisd> micah, how do i get the password in tha page hackerskills.com ?
[19:59] <[ucb]kevin_> right -- i'll restate my question to all you ubuntu savy folks:
[19:59] <lycan> with my sound card?
[19:59] <eighty7> anyone here is alos new to linux ? just startet 3 days before :)
[19:59] <Mirka> Ïðèâåò âñåì!
[19:59] <tc111> !ask|lycan
[19:59] <Geek`N`Proud`> [ucb]kevin_: not really.. think about it we have an #ubuntu-uk and that's en-gb  ;-p
[19:59] <[ucb]kevin_> is there a feature in ubuntu that will allow me to resize all the windows in my current workspace proportionally? (i.e. if i have 4 windows..they will each take a corner of the screen)
[19:59] <Geek`N`Proud`> hello eighty7 =]
[19:59] <[ucb]kevin_> Geek`N`Proud`, heh i c
[19:59] <Mirka> Ïðèâåò âñåì!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:59] <Mirka> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:59] <FloodBot2> Mirka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:59] <lycan> ok i'm using ubuntu 8.10 and i can't record from the microphone
[20:00] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: USB microphone?
[20:00] <lycan> no
[20:00] <elli222> can anyone help me with /etc/event.d/rc-default? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133135/ I am trying to make it recognize runlevels!
[20:00] <lycan> built in camera
[20:00] <lycan> webcam
[20:00] <lycan> crystal eye
[20:00] <JeroenTB> lycan: double click on speaker icon
[20:01] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: you need to explicitly choose it, that's all
[20:01] <JeroenTB> is mic in webcam ?
[20:01] <lycan> yes
[20:01] <Geek`N`Proud`> you can do that through Preferences -> Sound
[20:01] <bartmon> hi guys! my sound stopped working on 8.10, i get a "Connection refused" error when trying to test sounds from the Sound preference panel. "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" doesn't work. Any other ideas other than a reboot.
[20:01] <bartmon> ?
[20:01] <chaorain> Geek'N'Proud, My laptop is a Dell XPS M1730 with integrated blue tooth. My mouse is the standard bluetooth travel mouse. When I pair it to one OS (vista or Ubuntu) but it stops working on the other
[20:01] <lycan> hey are u alive?
[20:01] <Geek`N`Proud`> bartmon: pkill -9 pulseaudio && pulseaudio -daemon
[20:02] <JeroenTB> bartmon: probably the /dev/dsp device node is in a group from which you aren't a member
[20:02] <lycan> what?!
[20:02] <Pici> !who | lycan Geek`N`Proud`
[20:02] <JeroenTB> lycan: sry
[20:02] <Geek`N`Proud`> oops
[20:02] <lycan> np
[20:03] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: Preferences -> Sound
[20:03] <lycan> ok
[20:03] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: This will let you explicitly choose which devices for playback and recording
[20:03] <elli222> can anyone help me with /etc/event.d/rc-default? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133135/ I am trying to make it recognize runlevels! im scared that the modifications i have made may very well break it, and then i WILL be screwed really badly!
[20:03] <lycan> when it records i listen only bum bum bum
[20:03] <lycan> nothing else
[20:04] <tc111> !who|lycan
[20:04] <lycan> ok sorry
[20:05] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: if you type the first few letters of my nickname then press TAB it should autocomplete for you =]
[20:05] <JarG0n> help!  Does anyone know a way to use grep or some other tool, to take a list of line numbers, and automatically remove them from a source file?
[20:05] <elli222> im guessing nobody knows anything about /etx/event.d/rc-default? wow...
[20:05] <lycan> Geek`N`Proud`,  here im
[20:05] <bartmon> Geek`N`Proud`: Thanks, that worked! I wonder why "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" doesn't...
[20:05] <carpii> JarG0n, sounds like a job for sed maybe
[20:05] <RenatoSilva> How to restart CVS pserver without restarting the whole xinetd?
[20:06] <JeroenTB> elli222: etx ?!? etc you mean
[20:06] <bartmon> JeroenTB: It's true, my user account was not in group audio
[20:06] <JarG0n> carpii> sed ?
[20:06] <Geek`N`Proud`> bartmon: because pulseaudiois weird.. there was one time it used to have the process name "exe" - I thought 'god no not more win32!'
[20:06] <carpii> sed == stream editor
[20:06] <kannan> 4k
[20:06] <JeroenTB> bartmon: yw
[20:06] <tc111> JarG0n: i don't think that grep or egrep will do it for you, probably look into using 'sed' instead
[20:07] <JarG0n> tc111> I found it.  Any idea what options to use?
[20:07] <carpii> http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/31181-delete-line-file-sed.html
[20:07] <JarG0n> carpii> thanks, i'll check that out.
[20:07] <carpii> learn to google too, ok?
[20:07] <tc111> JarG0n: sed - stream editor for filtering and transforming text
[20:07] <JeroenTB> JarG0n: u can also use grep -v to skip lines with the search pattern
[20:07] <JarG0n> carpii> I tried, couldn't find anything useful.  (not with sed though)
[20:07] <[ucb]kevin_> [ucb]shanky
[20:07] <tc111> JarG0n: 'man sed'
[20:08] <kannan> i am install lenny in my system...but GUI not come help me
[20:08] <[ucb]kevin_> is there a feature in ubuntu that will allow me to resize all the windows in my current workspace proportionally? (i.e. if i have 4 windows..they will each take a corner of the screen)
[20:08] <JarG0n> JeroenTB> yes, however I'm trying to filter by line number, which isn't embedded into the files.  Thanks though.
[20:08] <elli222> with  a channel this big, you would think maybe someone knew about /etc/event.d/rc-default? i really cannot belive i am the only one doing low-level system modificatio...
[20:08] <[ucb]kevin_> @ kannan GUI?
[20:08] <kannan> exit
[20:08] <JeroenTB> JarG0n: cat <file> | nl | grep -v <linenr>
[20:08] <bartmon> Geek`N`Proud`: Did you file a bug report? :) Maybe I should file one that the /etc/init.d/ script is unusable... Oh well, thanks for the reminder of the manual way!
[20:09] <tc111> JarG0n: s/regexp/replacement/
[20:09] <BABER> hi
[20:09] <cajun> if i purchase an older internal DVD-ROM, is it an easy setup to make it work and play DVDs on my computer? running Intrepid
[20:09] <JeroenTB> tc111: s is subsitude
[20:10] <JeroenTB> tc111: d is delete
[20:10] <n8tuserf> cajun yes
[20:10] <Geek`N`Proud`> bartmon: bugs are always filed before I get the chance xD
[20:10] <cajun> ok.  awesome.  thanks
[20:10] <JeroenTB> tc111: so probably d<linenr> works
[20:10] <tc111> JeroenTB: is he trying to add numbers or take them away?
[20:10] <Geek`N`Proud`> bartmon: besides if software doesn't work, I either fix it myself and give the fix to people or replace it
[20:10] <BABER> i use tucan manager for downloading but when it hast downloading i close program but know i don't see any option for resume download
[20:10] <JeroenTB> haven't tried though, too lazy
[20:11] <JeroenTB> tc111: remove an line by number
[20:11] <JeroenTB> tc111: that is by linenumber
[20:11] <lycan> Geek`N`Proud`, hey someone can help me with my microphone because i really don't want to go back to vista
[20:11] <phoenix64> anyone can help me with a small problem with latex and postscript? The version of latex found in the repos seems to always use pdftex, which makes including .eps or using pstricks impossible? Is that possible?
[20:11] <JarG0n> tc111> it would be useful to just add all line numbers, and take them away using grep perhaps.
[20:12] <JeroenTB> lycan: In menu go to System->Preferences->Sound
[20:12] <bartmon> Geek`N`Proud`: Very responsible of you! I wish to do the same some day but I'm not that good with system programming yet.
[20:12] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: did you have any luck with the sound settings?
[20:12] <alienkid> How come with emerald as the decorator the shade button is ALWAYS not in line(it's pushed up a little) with the rest of the buttons(I think stick is too)? How do I fix it?(without recompiling) I asked #compiz-fusion and got no response.
[20:12] <lycan> JeroenTB, itryed
[20:12] <bartmon> Has anyone noticed very bad XFS performance with linux-image-2.6.27-13? It seems some sort of DoS happens and after a timeout data starts flowin
[20:12] <lycan> but no
[20:12] <tc111> JeroenTB: so then s/^#//g
[20:12] <Geek`N`Proud`> bartmon: i'm not a programmer at all.. it's just some things are easy to fix with a bit of peeking around
[20:12] <Geek`N`Proud`> bartmon: unless you count PHP (I don't!)
[20:12] <lycan> i can only hear bumbumbum after recorded
[20:13] <JeroenTB> tc111: that jst uncomments stuff
[20:13] <JarG0n> JeroenTB> how would I use d<linenr> ? Which program?
[20:13] <phoenix64> or any channel you could redirect me to where I could find an answer?
[20:13] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: is the webcam built into the computer?
[20:13] <lycan> yes
[20:13] <tc111> JeroenTB: '#' is a number, sorry for the confusion
[20:13] <JeroenTB> JarG0n: cat <file> | sed d<linenr>
[20:13] <lycan> is an acer aspire 5710z
[20:13] <Edico> hi
[20:13] <JeroenTB> tc111: yeah but s is for substitution
[20:14] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: it could be one that isn't supported in the kernel included with 8.10
[20:14] <JeroenTB> tc111: not removing of lines
[20:14] <lime> how to enable high_mem option ?
[20:14] <lycan> yeah is supported because i can register videos but without the sound
[20:14] <JarG0n> JeroenTB> Do I need to use the <>s ?
[20:14] <tc111> JeroenTB: sure, i'm substituting the number with nothing... more than one way to skin a cat
[20:15] <Edico> I tried gpasswd command and I can't use it. I tried sudo gpasswd -a user group
[20:15] <Edico> what can be the problem?
[20:15] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: it's two separate subsystems. sound and video are cleanly separated in GNU/Linux
[20:15] <JeroenTB> tc111: yes, but you're not deleting a specific linenumber with that command
[20:15] <lycan> ok
[20:15] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: my advice is to ask in the forums, as it's too fast-paced in here to give detailed help
[20:15] <JarG0n> JeroenTB> Do I need to use the <>s ?
[20:15] <lycan> fuckin bill gates
[20:15] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: try ubuntuforums.org
[20:15] <JeroenTB> JarG0n: nope
[20:16] <lycan> with his proprietary drivers
[20:16] <JarG0n> JeroenTB> Can sed take a list of line numbers to remove?
[20:16] <JeroenTB> JarG0n: the <file> means it's up to you to fill in
[20:16] <JeroenTB> JarG0n: yes, use , as separator and - for a range
[20:16] <wangor> sorry, I'm trying to run openMPI on ubuntu 7.10. I've compiled it from the sources, I compiled mpi4py using it, yet when I try to run a program using mpirun or mpiexec it tells me that deamon died unexpectedly, suggesting that I do something with LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variable.
[20:17] <JarG0n> JeroenTB> I.e. cat <file> | sed d<linenr>-<linenr> ?
[20:17] <JeroenTB> JarG0n: it might be that - should be a collon i'm not sure
[20:17] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: it's not all Bill Gates.. it's the hardware manufacturers.. I don't know if you've seen the hype around OpenSolaris - but that has proprietary-only drivers for most things too
[20:17] <wangor> did anyone run into it ? how can I bypass it ? I've put that variable to .bashrc, but it didn't help
[20:17] <Geek`N`Proud`> lycan: Linux makes it very hard for proprietary drivers to be usable for any period of time though (that's almost by design!)
[20:17] <elli222> im guessing nobody knows anything about /etx/event.d/rc-default? wow...
[20:17] <elli222> whoops
[20:18] <elli222> wrong button :)
[20:18] <JeroenTB> elli222: again you refer to etc directory, are you copy and pasting ?
[20:18] <Geek`N`Proud`> elli222: I prefer sysvinit myself
[20:18] <Geek`N`Proud`> JeroenTB: accidental up+enter
[20:18] <JeroenTB> lol
[20:19] <JeroenTB> didn't know the cursors work, nice program ;)
[20:19] <Guest92669> hi all out there ,, i was wondering how you could enable so you could see your desktop in 6 views like a cube, i have tried to enable "desktop cube" but nothing happends ? :(
[20:19] <AndersPHP> hi all out there ,, i was wondering how you could enable so you could see your desktop in 6 views like a cube, i have tried to enable "desktop cube" but nothing happends ? :(
[20:20] <elli222> proof that up up enter works :)
[20:20] <JeroenTB> AndersPHP: did you enable all compiz effects ?
[20:20] <elli222> for your cube, ccsm
[20:20] <elli222> remember to look at key bindings...
[20:20] <AndersPHP> JeroenTB:  Hm i think so, where can i check if i had ?
[20:20] <elli222> ccsm :)
[20:21] <JeroenTB> AndersPHP: i have a compiz config menu item in system->prefs
[20:21] <JeroenTB> AndersPHP: i haven't tried the cube thing though
[20:22] <AndersPHP> JeroenTB:  yes im in there now, and i have enabled the "desktop cube" :/
[20:22] <JeroenTB> AndersPHP: probably you need to find out which keys control the cube
[20:22] <chaorain> AndersPHP, Are you using GNOME?
[20:22] <mtozses__> why do I get this: W: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.0/firefox-gnome-support_3.0.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_all.deb adresinden indirme başarısız / 404 Not Found
[20:22] <JeroenTB> chaorain: does that matter ?
[20:22] <AndersPHP> JeroenTB:  Hm yes you probably right about that.
[20:22] <elli222> AndersPHP, did you check the bindings? ie "Ctrl Alt left mouse?"
[20:22] <AndersPHP> chaorain:  yes i am
[20:23] <chaorain> JeroenTB, Yes Don't know about KDE but XFCE freaks out
[20:23] <tc111> AndersPHP: usually, under gnome and as long as the keybindings haven't been changed, you Ctrl-Alt-LeftClick and move mouse.
[20:23] <b1n42y> hmm that Mirka peron made my pidgin scroll horizontal scroll bar appear......
[20:23] <AndersPHP> elli222:  yes i have tried that, nothing happends... i have also tried shift + ctrl , but still anything
[20:23] <JeroenTB> chaorain: ok, i've seen it work with kde, so figured it was manager independant
[20:24] <chaorain> AndersPHP, try <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <left or right>
[20:24] <JeroenTB> AndersPHP: maybe ctral-alt-cursors ?
[20:25] <chaorain> JeroenTB, mostly yes. But Mythbuntu has major problems with it (experiance)
[20:25] <AndersPHP> chaorain:  i have tried that.
[20:25] <AndersPHP> JeroenTB:  i have tried that :/
[20:25] <JeroenTB> chaorain: filed a bugreport ? ;)
[20:26] <chaorain> JeroenTB, too lazy plus switched Ubuntu versioons
[20:26] <guntbert> mtozses__: where do you get that message?
[20:26] <karsten_> hallo
[20:26] <JeroenTB> AndersPHP: it might also be numpad keys, i dunno, there's a keybinding facility somewhere in the system menu
[20:26] <cayres> anyone here familiar with logcheck's ignore regex?  I see in /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server there is ^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ syslogd [.0-9]{5}#[0-9]+: restart \(remote reception\)\.$   but im still recieving email every hour with Mar 14 06:25:25 hostX syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.   I shouldnt be seeing these messages from 4 days prior
[20:26] <guntbert> !de | karsten_
[20:26] <JeroenTB> chaorain: know what you mean ;)
[20:26] <LED> Do Wubi installations support RAID/soft-RAID setups or does Wubi bypass all that on a file-system level?
[20:26] <chaorain> JeroenTB, Works with "sudo compiz"
[20:26] <AndersPHP> JeroenTB:  yes the bindings +SHIFT , but nothing happends when i press them
[20:27] <chaorain> JeroenTB, switched from Mythbuntu to UE
[20:27] <JeroenTB> AndersPHP: is your keyboard layout correct ?
[20:27] <JeroenTB> chaorain: UE ?!?
[20:27] <chaorain> AnderPHP, do you have proprietary drivers installed?
[20:27] <mtozses__> guntbert, synaptics gives me
[20:28] <LED> Anyone?
[20:28] <AndersPHP> JeroenTB:  year im pretty syre that it is :)
[20:28] <chaorain> JeroenTB, Ultimate Edition
[20:28] <|rt|> I have a quick remote X tunneling question.  If you have an ssh shell open to a server and are running a X application and you loose your connection is it possible to reconnect to the X application?
[20:28] <public> my system can not resolve DNS within my network here. my /etc/resolv.conf points to the server 10.0.0.2
[20:28] <public> which is the dns server;.
[20:28] <JeroenTB> chaorain: UE of what ? never heard of an ubuntu ultimate ?
[20:28] <Pici> !ultimate
[20:29] <JeroenTB> public: can you ping the dns server ?
[20:29] <public> i can ping the IP, not the name
[20:29] <ironfroggy_> when doing `sudo -u someuser bash` where can i put something i want sourced in that new shell?
[20:29] <chaorain> JeroenTB, http://ultimateedition.info/
[20:29] <JeroenTB> public: what is in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[20:29] <ironfroggy_> neither .bashrc or .profile seem to work
[20:29] <JeroenTB> public: and in /etc/nsswitch.conf ?
[20:30] <public> hrm.. not sure on the second. let me check
[20:30] <guntbert> mtozses__: I have no really good idea, bit in the meantime you could try to change the  update server you are using
[20:30] <guntbert> *but
[20:30] <public> when trying to join the Servers domain.. i get a message about nsswitch...
[20:30] <ShinyHat> java keeps freezing firefox, can  someone help me?
[20:31] <JeroenTB> public: check the hosts entry, it's resolving in order, so default is : hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:31] <public> # Generated by NetworkManager
[20:31] <public> nameserver 10.0.0.2
[20:31] <jtaji> ironfroggy_: try sudo -i -u someuser
[20:31] <public> nameserver 10.0.0.254
[20:31] <ironfroggy_> jtaji: ok, but do you know why bash isnt sourcing what it normally would when i just invoke it directly?
[20:31] <JeroenTB> public: that's resolv.conf looks ok
[20:32] <JeroenTB> public: now check the nsswitch.conf specifically the hosts: entry
[20:32] <ironfroggy_> also, what if i dont want a shell, but in fact want to source something for the environment changes and execute some command?
[20:32] <public> and the other looks like you mentioned
[20:32] <Fohsap> Yo.
[20:32] <public> hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:32] <DizzyEwok> hey
[20:32] <public> my end game is to join this box to our Server 2008 domain.
[20:32] <JeroenTB> public: looks fine too
[20:33] <JeroenTB> what is the name query you send ?
[20:33] <Fohsap> Can anyone give me the name of a good text editor that highlights HTML, CSS, and PHP syntax for Ubuntu 8.10 that I can install from terminal?
[20:33] <public> .. and yet i can still not ping smallbiz (name of the server)
[20:33] <JeroenTB> Fohsap: vim
[20:33] <jtaji> ironfroggy_: you'd write a script to set the environment variables needed
[20:33] <Fohsap> Or synaptic
[20:33] <RoAkSoAx> anyone know how to create snapshots in KVM, or anything like it?
[20:33] <Fohsap> Vim?  Cool.
[20:33] <public> when i try to ping smallbiz.... it looks like it's trying to ping a site on the net.
[20:33] <public> outside our network
[20:34] <JeroenTB> public: do you add a domaincomponent ?
[20:34] <public> ?
[20:34] <JeroenTB> public: if not you should put it in your hosts file
[20:34] <ironfroggy_> jtaji: can do, just exploring if there was something else i should do
[20:34] <public> hrm...  what would that look like?
[20:34] <Fohsap> Vim?  Hmm
[20:34] <JeroenTB> public: otherwise you should use <name>.local or <name>.localdomain
[20:35] <linfenix> somebody here know how to configure the console resolution size??
[20:35] <tc111> RoAkSoAx: in virtualbox, you use <hostkey>-s
[20:35] <JeroenTB> public: if you want to put it in your /etc/hosts file just do : echo <ip> <name/alias> >> /etc/hosts
[20:35] <ShinyHat> java keeps freezing firefox, can  someone help me?
[20:36] <RoAkSoAx> tc111, yah! but my question was related to KVM
[20:36] <JeroenTB> Fohsap: vim does syntax highlighting for a lot of formats and relies on content rather than extension
[20:36] <linfenix> somebody here know how to configure the console resolution size?? someone help me?
[20:36] <achilles> hello, I have ubuntu Intrepid, I have a problem in my sound system, I don't know sometimes it got stuck and no sound output, totem open up and the play time bar keeps 0.0 .. the only thing I do is to reboot and everything returns ok. it's stuck now
[20:36] <Randomtime> !enter
[20:36] <JeroenTB> linfenix: use fbset command for that
[20:37] <Ariadnax> hello
[20:37] <LetoTo1> Does anyone know how to tell preseed.cfg that I want to install using a local mirror, but want the resulting apt config to use regular mirror sites? All examples I can see have full mirrors of all. And i dont want the local mirror in the apt config at all
[20:37] <Ariadnax> my kontact won't add new events or to-dos....nor will purge completed to-dos
[20:37] <JeroenTB> linfenix: or append to the kernel parameterlist : video=<x>x<y>-<bpp>@<horrefreshrate>
[20:38] <linfenix> JeroenTE: jai how can i do it
[20:38] <linfenix> ??
[20:38] <Fohsap> Wow....
[20:38] <Fohsap> It's going to take over an hour to download VIM
[20:38] <jstew> Hi, does anyone know how to get a list of packages that depend on a certain package? Like I would if I were to remove it with apt-get?
[20:38] <Fohsap> With syntax and docs for the languages i use
[20:38] <JeroenTB> linfenix: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and look for kernelparameters
[20:39] <JeroenTB> linfenix: or type man fbset in the console
[20:39] <JeroenTB> gotta go, tc all
[20:39] <Flynsarmy> When doing a sudo make install of the latest glade i get /usr/bin/install: cannot stat 'glade-C.omf': No such file or directory. Ubuntu 8.10. Ideas?
[20:39] <tc111> RoAkSoAx: the 'or anything like it' portion of your question led me to believe you were also looking into other VM controllers
[20:40] <JeroenTB> linfenix: google for fbset, i have to go now, gl
[20:40] <ShinyHat> java keeps freezing firefox, can  someone help me?
[20:40] <stew> jstew: "aptitude search '~i~Rsompackage'" or you can run "apt-get --simulate remove somepackage" to see what would happen without it actually doing anything
[20:40] <jstew> ah cool thx
[20:40] <jstew> stew... cool name too.
[20:40] <public> jeroenTB I can ping the "smallbiz" server now after adding the entry to /etc/hosts file
[20:40] <RoAkSoAx> tc111, I meant something similar of taking snapshots, such as taking backups or things like that.. but.. thanks for the suggestion :)
[20:40] <stew> yeah, i'm going to adjust /hilights now :)
[20:40] <tc111> RoAkSoAx: you could try 'import'. its a cli utility where you open a terminal and type "import ascreenshot.png' and your mouse will turn into a crosshair which you then select the portion of the screen you want saved as 'ascreenshot.png'
[20:41] <public> when i try to join domain, i get a manual config required error.   it says config stage "open ports to DC" can not be completed
[20:41] <public> and tells me to open some ports
[20:41] <public> those ports should be open
[20:41] <tc111> RoAkSoAx: ok, my bad, snapshot != screenshot...
[20:41] <achilles> hello, I have ubuntu Intrepid, I have a problem in my sound system, I don't know sometimes it got stuck and no sound output, totem open up and the play time bar keeps 0.0 .. the only thing I do is to reboot and everything returns ok. it's stuck now and I restarted alsa-utils .. but it didn't work
[20:41] <maodun> is there a command line tool i can use to filter out all 1-character words from a text file? i think sed or tr might do the right trick, can they?
[20:42] <ghost4> whats the path for SSHD?
[20:42] <tardfinger> is anyone familiar with setting up a vpn connection to a netgear fvs318 router?
[20:42] <RoAkSoAx> tc111, yep snapshots :)
[20:43] <mrdudle> yay i fixed my sound
[20:43] <public> Error code: CENTERROR_DOMAINJOIN_UNRESOLVED_DOMAIN_NAME (0x00080026)
[20:44] <LjL> ghost4: "which sshd" will tell you
[20:44] <tardfinger> i am trying to switch my home comp to using ubuntu only, but need to configure a vpn to my work computer - trying to use openvpn to connect to the netgear router
[20:44] <ghost4> ljl thanks
[20:44] <LjL> maodun: grep. grep -v "^.$" filename
[20:45] <h141> hi all
[20:45] <LjL> maodun: wait, that's assuming the file contains a word for every line. if instead there's spaces between them, then grep -v "\b.\b" filename
[20:45] <disappearedng> Hey everyone how do I install the language encoding GB18030 on ubuntu?
[20:45] <maodun> LjL: ah, yeah, the spaces model was what i was looking for. thanks!
[20:46] <LjL> maodun: but no, that's wrong too...
[20:46] <public> if i try to join the domain server-local vs server.local that is when i get the Port message.  server.local gives the resolving error
[20:46] <LjL> maodun: no, grep really only works if there's a word for each line. sed would be better
[20:46] <LjL> maodun: sed 's/\b.\b/ /g'
[20:47] <AnRkey> where can i edit the System > Settings > Sessions via the command line for a user?
[20:47] <tardfinger> anyone familiar with openvpn to an fvs318 router?
[20:47] <disappearedng> Hey everony
[20:48] <TuxSympathiser> I am reconfiguring xorg, should I enable the kernel frame buffer interface?
[20:48] <Anorion|eee> since xorg.conf isn't used anymore, how do I configure touchpads nowadays?
[20:48] <disappearedng> when I do a sudo locale-gen I can't see my encoding any idea on how I could install them?
[20:48] <jrib> !synaptics | Anorion|eee
[20:48] <maodun> LjL: that did the trick! thanks a lot
[20:48] <azlon> can I sync my google contacts with my thunderbird address book?
[20:49] <Anorion|eee> thanks a bunch, jrib!
[20:49] <ufk> hi
[20:49] <ufk>  is there a way to use iptables to give highest priority to one of the servers that i have configured in linux box (http/ftp) so any other WAN related connection won't slow it down ?
[20:50] <mustangg1> anyone using "screenlets"?   can you please tell me how to change settings for items such as stocks, it defaults to google and I can neither add nor change the ticker.
[20:51] <samgagirl> has anyone installed patientos in intrepid?
[20:51] <simplexio> ufk: yes and no. google traffic shaping linux
[20:51] <checkm> hi
[20:51] <checkm> i installed ubuntu for netbooks
[20:51] <checkm> ubuntu 8.10
[20:51] <ufk> i tried for over a week, unfortunately i was unable to fully understand tc to achieve this
[20:51] <checkm> but this version has no window borders
[20:51] <checkm> how can i activate them?
[20:51] <talntid> mustangg1: right click the screenlet > properties
[20:52] <SmokeyD> hey people: hope you don't mind me asking a legal question about ubuntu:
[20:52] <mustangg1> talntid: inside the screenlets manager? doesn't work.
[20:52] <LjL> SmokeyD: we are not lawyers
[20:52] <talntid> no, on the screenlet itself..
[20:52] <samgagirl> checkm what mfg of laptops?
[20:52] <samgagirl> that may be a bios config setting
[20:52] <samgagirl> for lenovo anyway
[20:52] <samgagirl> thinkpads from ibm too
[20:52] <samgagirl> has anyone installed patientos in intrepid?
[20:52] <FloodBot2> samgagirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <LjL> samgagirl: was that a haiku support request?
[20:53] <samgagirl> ljl lol
[20:53] <SmokeyD> If I install an ubuntu server at a client so they can do stuff with it, do I have to actively agree on the licences and stuff and do I have to tell them what software is installed and what the licences are, or is just installing the machine fine.
[20:53] <samgagirl> no
[20:53] <Huffalump> Cannot get a printer to work. System > Admin > Printer > New adding it says "not authorized" and it never asked me for a password. How do you avoid this error?
[20:53] <simplexio> ufk: http://lartc.org/howto/ also is good source. and i dont any GUI systems to setup tc
[20:53] <samgagirl> can i run tunetracker in haiku yet? ljl?
[20:53] <SmokeyD> LjL yeah I know, just thought that someone might have come across such a situation
[20:53] <ufk> k thanks
[20:53] <schnauzer> SmokeyD: I don't think so, as long as the licenses are GPL
[20:54] <TuxSympathiser> I need some help reconfiguring xorg
[20:54] <LjL> SmokeyD: most of the software in Ubuntu is released under the GPL, which is basically automatically accepted by the user by running the software
[20:54] <adac> I want to access to my ftp server via curlftpfs like curlftpfs ftp://username:password@ftp.servername.com /mnt/ftpserver but now I have the problem that the username does contain an @  how do I solve that?
[20:54] <nananuu> Hi please help I have ubuntu 8.04 LTS: when I start ubuntu in normal mode it shows a black screeen bat I can hear the sound of login menu. Now I`m in safe mode from live cd please help.
[20:54] <mustangg1> talntid: and properties for the running screenlet gives me three tabs, none of which let me change the settings.. peculiar..
[20:54] <LjL> SmokeyD: i think you *should* tell them about the licences, if only as a "right thing to do"
[20:54] <Flynsarmy> glade-3: error while loading shared libraries: libgladeui-1.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Ideas?
[20:54] <mlkjvcx> hi
[20:54] <mlkjvcx> there
[20:54] <Droopsta915> How do I install this pdfimport.oxt file?
[20:54] <mlkjvcx> whonoze about openvpn ?
[20:55] <LjL> !ask | mlkjvcx
[20:55] <mlkjvcx> well
[20:55] <mlkjvcx> after following an ubuntu tutorial
[20:55] <LjL> mlkjvcx: which part of "all on ONE line"...?
[20:55] <SmokeyD> LjL: yeah ok, I will tell them that I install stuff which is licenced under the GPL, just so they know. The problem is that what they use is just my webinterface so they don't read all the licences and "I agree" stuff. But just letting them know and agree will be fine then. Thanks for the input
[20:56] <Anna_111> I am trying to extract a tar.gz file in my home dir by double clicking on it but it won't let me extract it in my home dire - says no permission. Can somebody help?
[20:56] <simplexio> ufk: mastershaper seems to be easy gui for it
[20:56] <SmokeyD> All the stuff I make myself is GPL'ed as well
[20:56] <LjL> SmokeyD: Ubuntu doesn't contain any software whose license actually require clicking some explicit "I agree" thing, except possibly in Multiverse
[20:56] <mlkjvcx> after following an ubuntu tutorial i configure openvpn on my ubuntu server. now on my pc it's in listening mode
[20:56] <mlkjvcx> and client also it connect to my openvpn server
[20:56] <SmokeyD> LjL: yeah, now that you mention it, that's right :)
[20:57] <ufk> awesome thanks i'll check it out
[20:57] <mlkjvcx> but it can't display page
[20:57] <SmokeyD> only the sun-java packages maybe?
[20:57] <mlkjvcx> any knows where is the probleme ?
[20:57] <LjL> SmokeyD: right, but that's in Multiverse
[20:57] <Droopsta915> Anna_111:try right click, extract to desktop, then move it into what ever directory u want
[20:57] <SmokeyD> LjL: ok.
[20:57] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  try using the command line. it will be more verbose and easier todebug.
[20:57] <xavierg2003> Hello
[20:58] <LjL> SmokeyD: besides, there are alternatives available to Sun's Java which don't have that sort of license
[20:58] <Anna_111> Droopsta915,  oh ok... I have to move it myself from the desktop then.. thanks
[20:58] <crf> Hi, how to you get applications you have just decided to open to not get focus
[20:58] <xavierg2003> Does anyone know of the program air-mon?
[20:58] <Anna_111> Dr_willis,  I can tar xvf the file from the command line but I have no idea where it downloaded
[20:58] <Anna_111> I can see it on my desktop though
[20:59] <xavierg2003> specifically the command line
[20:59] <jrib> !anyone | xavierg2003
[20:59] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,   the Desktop is /home/username/Desktop
[20:59] <Anna_111> Dr_willis,  thanks
[21:00] <J_el_Che> can anyone help me through un-installing an application that isn't in the Add/Remove application
[21:00] <xavierg2003> to install it
[21:00] <jrib> J_el_Che: what application?  And how did you install it?
[21:00] <LjL> J_el_Che: depends on how you installed it.
[21:00] <J_el_Che> GoogleEarthLinux it was a .bin file
[21:00] <jrib> xavierg2003: are you just looking for aircrack-ng?  That's in the repositories
[21:00] <xavierg2003> use sudo apt-get auto remove (program)
[21:01] <LjL> J_el_Che: you could have got a proper google earth package from the Medibuntu repository, keep that in mind for next time
[21:01] <LjL> !medibuntu > J_el_Che    (J_el_Che, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:01] <xavierg2003> thankyou i couldn't remember the name
[21:01] <Dr_willis> theres also google earth at the medibuntu repositories i belive.
[21:01] <J_el_Che> i will thank you
[21:01] <TuxSympathiser> by default is the kernel framebuffer interface enabled?
[21:01] <J_el_Che> i'll keep that in mind, that would have been good haha
[21:01] <jrib> TuxSympathiser: what version of ubunut are you using?
[21:01] <keres> what does  _(){ _|_& };_ do
[21:01] <LjL> J_el_Che: anyway, i don't know the answer because i never installed that .bin in the first place (i used medibuntu). maybe you can run the .bin with some --option to uninstall?
[21:01] <mlkjvcx> hellllllllllllllllllllo
[21:01] <jrib> !danger | keres
[21:01] <TuxSympathiser> jrib, I am using ubuntu 8.10
[21:01] <rrzw3362> keres: it starts a fork bomb
[21:01] <LjL> keres: gets you banned
[21:02] <n8tuserf> J_el_Che -> do you still have the old .bin file? maybe the first portion is a script and look into how it installs?
[21:02] <Dr_willis> J_el_Che,  where did you tell the binary to install to? if it was to the users home directory.. you canjust delete the GoogleEarth Directory
[21:02] <stoic_> Does anyone know a good port scanner for gnome ?
[21:02] <elad``> My current password is four characters long. I'm trying to switch to a five characters long password, and passwd's telling me it's too short. First, this is absurd. Second, how do I get around it?
[21:02] <TuxSympathiser> jrib, I am reconfiguring xorg using dpkg-reconfigure and am confused whether or not the kernel framebuffer interface should be enabled or disabled!
[21:02] <J_el_Che> umm i don't know...
[21:03] <jrib> TuxSympathiser: enable it.  If there's an issue, then disable it
[21:03] <Anna_111> Dr_willis,  I extracted the file from the desktop, I have no idea where the extracted files went. It's supposed to create some folders.
[21:03] <jrib> TuxSympathiser: I just didn't remember being asked that question on recent versions of ubuntu, thus why I asked
[21:03] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  look in the Desktop directory again...
[21:03] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  depending on the command they extract to the current directory normally
[21:03] <TuxSympathiser> jrib, I'm using dpkg-reconfigure as I messed up the display :-)
[21:04] <n8tuserf> elad` -> why do you believe a four character password is acceptable?
[21:04] <Flynsarmy> glade-3: error while loading shared libraries: libgladeui-1.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Ideas?
[21:04] <elad``> n8tuserf, it's a fact that I have one right now. The Ubuntu installation let me create one.
[21:04] <arvind_khadri> Flynsarmy, what are you trying to do?
[21:05] <schnauzer> elad``: It's still not a good idea.
[21:05] <Flynsarmy> arvind_khadri, I jsut compiled glade 3.6. i did a sudo make then sudo make install. now when i try to run it i get that error. 3.4.5 was working
[21:05] <elad``> So, how do I force a password change, disregarding the safety restrictions of the new password being a rehashing of the old one?
[21:05] <ghost4> logout
[21:05] <n8tuserf> elad` -> during install, pam modules were not running yet, thats why you were able to create a 4 char password
[21:05] <Anna_111> Dr_willis,  yeah it did. According to my instructions it is supposed to create a folder called servers but what it did was create a folder called expc and all files are inside that folder. What does it mean if the folder name is in blue?
[21:05] <elad``> schnauzer, I don't really care about that.
[21:05] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  look in the directory?
[21:06] <schnauzer> elad``: To each his own, I suppose...
[21:06] <arvind_khadri> Flynsarmy, look into the errors/warnings of make
[21:06] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  explore what it created..
[21:06] <ShinyHat> does anyone know how to tether a blackberry so i can access the internet?
[21:06] <elad``> So, how do I do that?
[21:06] <J_el_Che> can I pm someone about uninstalling this app?  this window is too hectic
[21:06] <Anna_111> It created my DB2 install files. So tar -xvf went fine.
[21:07] <elad``> "New password is a wrapped(?) version of the old one" - I still want that to be my new password. How do I force it?
[21:07] <J_el_Che> right...
[21:07] <Flynsarmy> arvind_khadri, when i type 'make' its just a whole bunch of 'nothing to be done' messages
[21:07] <Anna_111> Dr_willis,  what does it mean if the dir color is blue or green?
[21:07] <Ax3> lol
[21:08] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  try ls -l, and see the details.. i would imagine one is for a directory, other may be a executable
[21:08] <Ax3> elad``, all this time you're wasting trying to figure it out, just make a longer password.... lol
[21:08] <arvind_khadri> Flynsarmy, do you need to run something before that? read the README ?
[21:08] <schnauzer> elad``: Are you trying to simply add a character to your old password? As in, "1234" becomes "12345"
[21:08] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  dont go by 'colors' go by what ls tells you. then you learn what the colors mean.
[21:08] <n8tuserf> elad` -> man passwd and man pam  for details,
[21:08] <nananuu> Hi please help I have ubuntu 8.04 LTS: when I start ubuntu in normal mode it shows a black screeen bat I can hear the sound of login menu. Now I`m in safe mode from live cd please help.
[21:08] <Anna_111> yeah did a ls -al to check.. yep blue is dir and green is files.. thanks much
[21:09] <n8tuserf> elad` -> there are settings in /etc/pam.d/common-password
[21:09] <Dr_willis> Anna_111,  google hit for 'ls color code' -> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3090
[21:10] <adben> hello, i have one q... there' s some kind of selection of the best projects hosted in http://ppa.launchpad.net ?
[21:10] <syborg> Anyone know how to manually configure network settings via command line?
[21:10] <Anorion|eee> any advice for elantech touchpads?
[21:11] <Anna_111> Dr_willis,  thanks
[21:11] <wrektjet> hello im m aout to insatll ubuntu! im running a mem test right now
[21:12] <wrektjet> excxited
[21:12] <Wibble-> Hi :) I'm really frustrated with my video modes... X loads with the login screen at 1280x1024 at 75Hz... When I login, gnome loads at 1280x1024 at 60Hz and the gnome display selector only shows 1280x1024 at 52 or 53Hz! Clearly the monitor and X are working correctly since they match at 75Hz, but I don't know how to make gnome rather than gdm play ball :/
[21:12] <Flynsarmy> arvind_khadri, not that i can see. it requires gtk+ and libxml both of which i have
[21:12] <Droopsta915> How do I install this pdfimport.oxt file?
[21:12] <Ax3> why are you running a memtest wrektjet  ?
[21:13] <arvind_khadri> !find libgladeui
[21:13] <arvind_khadri> Flynsarmy, you need the -dev thingy ^^^
[21:13] <arfee_> hey, hows everyone?
[21:14] <Flynsarmy> arvind_khadri, already installed
[21:14] <mtozses__> super
[21:14] <wrektjet> new hdd
[21:14] <Gnea> Wibble-: did you check your System->Preferences->Screen Resolution?
[21:14] <arfee_> think anyone can help with an invisible network lol
[21:14] <wrektjet> Ax3: new hdd
[21:14] <arvind_khadri> Flynsarmy, the other one?
[21:14] <Wibble-> Gnea: that's the thing that offers me 52 or 53Hz resolution :/
[21:14] <arvind_khadri> !find libgladeui-1.so.9
[21:15] <Anna_111> has anybody installed DB2 on Ubuntu?
[21:15] <Gnea> Wibble-: okay. can you bring up the OSD on your monitor? is it matching 52/53Hz?
[21:15] <arvind_khadri> !find libgladeui-1.so.9 > me
[21:15] <Wibble-> Gnea: Before I change mode, it is at 60Hz (Note that Gdm got that res at 75Hz) and after the change, yes it shows 52Hz
[21:15] <arfee_> I live in holland and in order for Ubuntu to have discovered my Wifi network i needed to add regdom=EU somewhere
[21:15] <gerald_> hia all
[21:15] <Flynsarmy> arvind_khadri, Got it! had to install gtk+-dev
[21:15] <xavierg2003> What is the command line to install aircrack.
[21:15] <xavierg2003> ?
[21:15] <arfee_> but now i added KDE to Ubuntu and now my network is invisible again
[21:16] <jrib> !apt | xavierg2003
[21:16] <gerald_> is there a way to get ubuntu server to auto fetch my yahoo mail?
[21:16] <arvind_khadri> Flynsarmy, nice
[21:16] <Ax3> wrektjet, memtest is for RAM, not hard disks.
[21:16] <xavierg2003> No shit? i asked for the install command line....
[21:16] <eighty7> Hey, :) does anybody know a Open Source Project like Google Earth perhaps with a mode for Internet server farms shown and connections routes? :) would be nice to study
[21:16] <jrib> xavierg2003: read the link ubottu gave you.  And please change your attitude
[21:16] <ech0s7> hi
[21:16] <ech0s7> why with acpi i don't get the time left of battery, otherwise i get with acpitoo: http://rafb.net/p/QFMRwQ61.html ?
[21:16] <xavierg2003> God damnit.
[21:17] <Gnea> Wibble-: that's disturbing... never seen gnome actually trump what's in xorg.conf
[21:17] <Gnea> !language | xavierg2003
[21:17] <wrektjet> whoops. fine either way. new RAm too :)
[21:17] <mrdudle> eighty4, you can use one of the various trace route programs
[21:17] <xavierg2003> i will jsut try and remember it my self thankyou for nothing
[21:17] <jrib> xavierg2003: or you can read, either is fine
[21:17] <nananuu> is there a way to change resolution from live cd in installed ubuntu?
[21:17] <Wibble-> the conf file doesn't include any modelines - they are just the default ones that are detected... but it does include the correct monitor hsync/vertrefresh numbers...
[21:17] <xavierg2003> It does not come up on my computer
[21:18] <xavierg2003> thats why i asked for the command line.
[21:18] <Gnea> Wibble-: what make/model monitor do you have?
[21:18] <xavierg2003> At all.
[21:18] <eighty4> mrdudle: I'm guessing that wasnet for me?
[21:18] <n8tuserf> nananuu -> yes, you mount the partition where your installed xorg.conf and modify it
[21:18] <mrdudle> yes it was
[21:18] <Wibble-> Gnea: Philips 107MB - 30-86 and 50-160
[21:18] <xavierg2003> WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO READ WHEN NOTHING COMES UP?
[21:18] <arfee_> I know you people are busy but anyone able to help with Wifi network discovery problem?
[21:18] <xavierg2003> .....i am sorry i am frusterated
[21:18] <xavierg2003> i will be back later when i am calmer
[21:18] <jrib> xavierg2003: you can't open a web page?
[21:18] <mrdudle> being a jerk won't help
[21:18] <wrektjet> Ax3: is tyere a way to test the hdd b4 i install the OS?
[21:18] <Gnea> xavierg2003: that's a good idea.
[21:18] <yann_> hi
[21:18] <mrdudle> eighty4, i sent you a pvt
[21:19] <gerald_> is there a way to get ubuntu server to auto fetch my yahoo mail?
[21:19] <eighty4> mrdudle: pm, yes. But why?
[21:19] <yann_>                       /dfss
[21:19] <mrdudle> it'll be easier to talk
[21:19] <yann_>  /ddd
[21:19] <keres_> who was it that banned me for posting dangerous syntax? someonone told me to run it, i didn't know what it was
[21:19] <mrdudle> and i'll try and help?
[21:19] <Wibble-> Gnea: It supports 1280x1024 at 85Hz despite what the online docs say... I had it running at that in Windows by disabling plug n play and sorting it out manually ;) But I'd be happy with the 75Hz that Gdm manages
[21:19] <n8tuserf> keres_ -> now you know, so drop it
[21:20] <nananuu> n8tuserf:  I don`t know how to do that
[21:20] <keres_> n8tuserf: do i get unbanned?
[21:20] <n8tuserf> gerald_ -> you use apps like firebird to get it for you
[21:20] <keres_> n8tuserf: because i rather almost need this channel to use ubuntu
[21:21] <n8tuserf> keres_ -> you're here are you not?
[21:21] <mrdudle> eighty7, i can help you
[21:21] <keres_> n8tuserf: i am using a seperate laptop
[21:21] <keres_> n8tuserf: with irc2go, i normally use xchat on my desktop
[21:21] <n8tuserf> nananuu -> yes, you mount the partition where your installed xorg.conf resides and modify that xorg.conf file
[21:21] <keres_> was it ljl or lmj that banned me
[21:21] <Gnea> n8tuserf: that's a ban evasion
[21:22] <jrib> keres_: #ubuntu-ops please
[21:22] <keres_> thanks jrib
[21:22] <Gnea> Wibble-: looking still..
[21:22] <Wibble-> Gnea: Fabulous... I am too :) But its doing my eyes in (crappy refresh rate ;)
[21:23] <yrlnry> I just installed 8.10 on my laptop, and it seemed to go okay, but I'm afraid there might be something wrong with the disk.  Is there a comprehensive disk-checking utility?
[21:23] <Gnea> Wibble-: yeah, I dig... 85Hz sounds nice :)  this Dell tops out at 75Hz
[21:24] <hatter243> !fsck | yrlnry
[21:25] <Wibble-> YAY!
[21:25] <Wibble-> Gnea: Delete .config/monitors.xml and it uses the same res as gdm :))
[21:25] <Wibble-> Gnea: thanks for looking for me :)
[21:25] <nananuu> n8tuserf:  found it
[21:25] <dquestions> whats some technology that allows for multicast audio over a web browser?
[21:25] <dquestions> i imagine it has to be flash based
[21:26] <tc111> RoAkSoAx: find your answer yet on snapshots?
[21:26] <acicula> dquestions: depends, does the playback have to be in the browser, or is it ok to  load the stream in an auxilary player
[21:26] <Gnea> Wibble-: cheers :)
[21:26] <RoAkSoAx> tc111, kind off.. but it doesn't seem to work ok... so I'm testing it out
[21:27] <acicula> dquestions: with that respect even there is very little difference between flash or fi a vlc/totem/windows media player plugin
[21:27] <xavierg2003> Who knows how to work with Konsole?
[21:27] <nananuu> n8tuserf:  I modified it but can`t save I`m not the woot
[21:27] <nananuu> n8tuserf:  I modified it but can`t save I`m not the root
[21:27] <Dr_willis> xavierg2003,  you may want to be a little more specific/verbose
[21:28] <n8tuserf> nananuu -> on livecd  use  sudo -i
[21:28] <linny1> is it possible to install ubuntu base (the 10mb iso) onto a couple of drives set up on one of those lvm thingys (if so how would i go about it)
[21:28] <Gnea> xavierg2003: many people do - although we try not to encourage "who uses.." and "does anybody use.." kind of questions - you're better off to just ask the real question that have about konsole
[21:28] <xavierg2003> Actually nevermind.
[21:28] <sys64738> I'm trying to install 8.04 on a Powerbook G3, but I can't get the mac to boot from the cd image.
[21:28] <xavierg2003> I figured it out.
[21:28] <Gnea> cool
[21:28] <acicula> linny1: yes, but the 10Mb iso is netinstall
[21:28] <tc111> RoAkSoAx: looking through docs it looks like you can use Ctrl+Alt+2 OR Ctrl-Alt-c and switch to the console and then with savevm you can save the vm to a file... is that what you already tried?
[21:29] <linny1> acicula: yes i want just the base installed no extra stuff or desktops or anything
[21:30] <acicula> sys64738: is G3 ppc or intel based?
[21:30] <Jabo> hey guys
[21:30] <nananuu> n8tuserf:  Omg I`m a noob I just searched it on file system I don`t eaven know another way :(
[21:30] <sys64738> its a ppc
[21:30] <acicula> sys64738: did you get the ppc specific image?
[21:30] <RoAkSoAx> tc111, yeah. first I tried clonning it, it works but the network interfaces get f****d up, and then trying creating snapshots with the save command, but when restoring you can see the changes made aftr taking the snapshot
[21:30] <sys64738> yes, i can open it up on the g3 OS9.2
[21:30] <Gnea> linny1: not sure if the netinstall does LVM or not, but just about every Ubuntu-based distro does, so I would imagine that the probability is greater than 90%
[21:30] <Droopsta915> Whats a good program to edit pdf files?
[21:30] <acicula> sys64738: as in you can browse the cd
[21:31] <sys64738> but I want to wipe out the OS 9.2 and intall Ubuntu
[21:31] <sys64738> yes I can browse it
[21:31] <Gnea> !info pdfedit | Droopsta915
[21:31] <oCean_> !ppc
[21:31] <acicula> Gnea: it does
[21:31] <Gnea> acicula: awesome
[21:31] <satansaunt> is there a work around to get vlc to work with the media shortcuts on a thinkpad?
[21:31] <yrlnry> hatter243: Thanks, but I don't want fsck; I want something that operates at a lower level, at the level of disk blocks.
[21:31] <ader10> xmms2 or mpd? (I used mpd last summer, have computer access again and want to know which is preferred)
[21:31] <oCean_> sys64738: see ^^ what ubottu says about ppc
[21:32] <acicula> yrlnry: fsck drives badblocks behind the scenes
[21:32] <Gnea> !xmms
[21:32] <ader10> xmms2...
[21:32] <ader10> that's what I said
[21:32] <Gnea> oh, er
[21:32] <Gnea> right :)
[21:32] <ader10> :P
[21:32] <Gnea> sorry lol
[21:32] <ader10> You'd better be!!!!111
[21:32] <ader10> ;D
[21:32] <acicula> yrlnry: you can use badblocks manually too, but it's not recommended
[21:32] <Gnea> i like audacious :)
[21:32] <ader10> I need a daemon
[21:32] <Gnea> aaah
[21:32] <rockey> Hi every one
[21:32] <Gnea> xmms2 should do it then
[21:33] <satansaunt> vlc is the best
[21:33] <rockey> i am a newbie
[21:33] <yrlnry> Aha, badblocks was what I was looking for.  Thanks.
[21:33] <Gnea> tried it before, i didn't like it
[21:33] <rockey> to ubuntu
[21:33] <satansaunt> is there a work around to get vlc to work with the media shortcuts on a thinkpad?
[21:33] <acicula> !ask rockey
[21:33] <Gnea> but, that doesn't mean i won't recommend it ;)
[21:33] <ader10> :P
[21:33] <acicula> rockey: just ask and dont use enter as punctuation
[21:33] <ader10> where should I go to get more people's opinions on xmms2 vs mpd?
[21:33] <sys64738> yea I understand the G3 ppc can operate Ubuntu, I just can't get it to install.
[21:33] <hatter243> !better | ader10
[21:34] <Gnea> ader10: tried mpd too, xmms2 had a much nicer setup/configuration
[21:34] <acicula> sys64738: where did you download the iso from, the specific url
[21:34] <acicula> or what is it called
[21:34] <satansaunt> ader- use vlc
[21:34] <satansaunt> seriously
[21:34] <ader10> I didn't ask which was better, hatter243.
[21:34] <ader10> I asked for opinions.
[21:34] <Gnea> hrm.
[21:34] <hatter243> Then go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:34] <ader10> this channel is so informal thanks to ubotu :P
[21:34] <sys64738> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[21:34] <satansaunt> lol
[21:35] <Gnea> ader10: if you don't want to stay on topic...
[21:35] <Droopsta915> Gnea:thanks
[21:35] <elli222> gkrellm has xmms2 support... mpd is very lightweight, but lacks a gkrellm plugin. ofc this is completly irrelevent if you do not use gkrellm...
[21:35] <sys64738> actually....http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/hardy/release/
[21:35] <adi1> hi all. my totem crash aoutomatically after all kind of format upload
[21:35] <adi1> im on interpid
[21:35] <ader10> I don't even know what gkrellm is :)
[21:35] <adi1> in hardy it was ok though
[21:35] <satansaunt> ader-you could always try quod libet.
[21:36] <acicula> sys64738: well if it says powerpc in the iso name i guess it's alright, dont know that much about the powerpc though, does it boot at all? and/or did you try the alternate installer?
[21:36] <adi1> is this i totem bug related or a interpid issue
[21:36] <elli222> GNU Krell Monitors. They are probably the coolest things i have seen :)
[21:36] <rockey> how to install sound drivers in ubuntu
[21:36] <Gnea> !info gkrellm
[21:36] <guntbert> !sound | rockey
[21:36] <sys64738> I don't know how to boot from a cd on a mac
[21:37] <acicula> sys64738: heu
[21:37] <adi1> anyone had problems with totem playing any sort of file like mp3 or ogg or avi?
[21:37] <adi1> im on interpid
[21:37] <MenZa> !restricted | adi1
[21:37] <acicula> sys64738: try google,if it doesnt autoboot from the cd you have to press buttons during bootup(before maxosx loads)
[21:37] <noodlesgc> hey guys
[21:38] <snowveil> I'm creating a tar archive and when I try to exclude a folder, tar says that it's archiving it anyway
[21:38] <adi1> all installed
[21:38] <adi1> all restricted
[21:38] <adi1> it just crash now
[21:38] <acicula> sys64738: to manually select booting from cd, other then that i dont know jack about ppcs
[21:38] <BB__> /whois BB
[21:38] <BB__> /whois BB
[21:38] <Tesseraction> Umm, "E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com<blahblahblah> E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[21:38] <adi1> totem and rhtythmbox aloso
[21:38] <snowveil> the format I'm using is "sudo tar cvpzf --exclude=/home/mike/.wine/ /" ....any idea why it's still backing up my .wine folder?
[21:38] <Tesseraction> Is there a fix for that?
[21:38] <acicula> sys64738: there's an #ubuntu-ppc though
[21:38] <adi1> cant play anything in this interpid
[21:38] <Tesseraction> (Update Manager)
[21:39] <snowveil> erm, sorry it's "sudo tar cvpzf whatever.tgz --exclude=/home/mike/.wine/ /"
[21:39] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> If installed to a USB Flash drive, how long would the flash drive last? Days? Weeks?
[21:39] <Fohsap> How do I open VIM?
[21:39] <Fohsap> I'm looking for something like Notepad++
[21:39] <Fohsap> For Ubuntu 8.10
[21:39] <snowveil> I-Shot-Kennedy__, it's shouldn't expire
[21:39] <elli222> Fohsap, type vim in a terminal
[21:40] <snowveil> Fohsap, gedit also
[21:40] <Fohsap> Ah dude
[21:40] <acicula> I-Shot-Kennedy__: depends very much on the flash drive
[21:40] <Gnea> I-Shot-Kennedy__: until it fails.
[21:40] <Fohsap> Freegin ghetto
[21:40] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> snowveil, are you sure? I was told USB flash drives have limited number of write/erase cycles?
[21:40] <elli222> sudo apt-get install gvim for a GTK2 frontend :)
[21:40] <Fohsap> Thank you.
[21:40] <mn> Where are boot errors logged?
[21:40] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> I have a kingston 16GB one.
[21:41] <Gnea> mn: /var/log/syslog
[21:41] <acicula> I-Shot-Kennedy__: it'll work, but i would not use it as a reliable place to store your data
[21:41] <Gnea> I-Shot-Kennedy__: sounds brand new, so not enough research done yet to really know. try it and see what happens.
[21:41] <snowveil> I-Shot-Kennedy__ : " Typical values are guaranteed cycles of 10,000 times. Most parts will work far longer - it's just not guaranteed. "
[21:41] <voice5sur5> hit
[21:41] <voice5sur5> hi
[21:41] <acicula> 10000 is very little for an os-disk i think ?
[21:41] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> oh. well I have no option. I have several raid0 arrays setup and Ubuntu is not detecting them. (they are all fakeraid based) I don't feel like running Ubuntu from live-cd forever. Flash drive was last option.
[21:42] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> if it can last few months I would be happy.
[21:42] <Gnea> I-Shot-Kennedy__: I would keep the livecd around just to be on the safe-side
[21:42] <guntbert> acicula: 10000 writes for each single byte
[21:43] <acicula> guntbert: doesnt write per byte?
[21:43] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Nobody here ran Ubuntu (or any other distro) from a flash drive for any long periods of time?
[21:43] <snowveil> I-Shot-Kennedy__ : http://www.esacademy.com/faq/docs/flash/lifetime.htm
[21:43] <elli222> if its just reading, would it hurt?
[21:43] <acicula> I-Shot-Kennedy__: i've used it, but only for testing, not permanently
[21:43] <Gnea> I-Shot-Kennedy__: I haen't.. usually for short time periods since flash drives really aren't built to withstand such pressure
[21:43] <mn> Well, I get a lot of errors when booting, but I can't find them logged
[21:44] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: I've done it for a couple weeks, and never had a problem.
[21:44] <guntbert> acicula: I meant, not 10000 writes to any place to the stick, but 10000 writes to one single byte
[21:44] <shiloh7> can anyone point me to a informational page about amarok? or tell me if its even worth dinking around with?
[21:44] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: This was back in 7.04 though
[21:44] <snowveil> shiloh7, I use amarok
[21:44] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> schnauzer, few weeks? Sounds good.
[21:44] <ortsvorsteher> !amarok | shiloh7
[21:45] <uvacav> anyone have problems with firefox caching things incorrectly? I'm a web developer and having a problem: When I load a site, make a change to it, then reload it, it often will load the original site rather than the changed site.
[21:45] <ortsvorsteher> shiloh7: is that what you searching for?
[21:45] <usuario> hi all
[21:46] <schnauzer> The drive later went through the wash, so I can't really say how long it should last under *normal* use...
[21:46] <shiloh7> i read through this already, ty, just been dinking with this amarok for a few weeks, im either doing something extremely wrong or its kinda worthless
[21:46] <usuario> all my gtk app menus (except for firefox) are gone, can anyone help me?
[21:46] <acicula> well it's pretty common to run os's off those chips that go in phones
[21:46] <acicula> forgot the name, err
[21:47] <usuario> anyone?
[21:47] <acicula> SDcards, but dunno if those differ significantly from vanilla usb sticks
[21:48] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> " The drive later went through the wash" You mean it died?
[21:48] <shiloh7> ortsvorsteher, i read through that before, thank you
[21:49] <ortsvorsteher> shiloh7: youre welcome :)
[21:49] <acicula> I-Shot-Kennedy__: i think he means he washed it, as in machine+soap+water == clean undies
[21:49] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: No, I mean it went through the washing machine and didn't work afterwards
[21:49] <emil> olá .. qual o canal para brasileiros?
[21:49] <LjL> !br | emil
[21:49] <Tesseraction> uh
[21:49] <shiloh7> ortsvorsteher, i think i am just going to remove it, thank you for your time
[21:49] <Tesseraction> Anyone know of any bugs where the Update Manager seems to decide it owns the whole darn system?
[21:49] <usuario> também estou procurando
[21:49] <emil> ubuntu-br :That channel doesn't exist
[21:49] <ortsvorsteher> !pt | usuario
[21:50] <Tesseraction> The window opened once on start-up and then immediately hid itself.
[21:50] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Oh, I thought it you meant it died or something, hehe.
[21:50] <LjL> emil: #ubuntu-br no ubuntu-br
[21:50] <Tesseraction> It's there in the notification area.
[21:50] <Tesseraction> But clicking on that does nothing.
[21:50] <Tesseraction> And now no windows open up at all.
[21:50] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Do you know how to setup Ubuntu on a fake-raid (maybe that would be better option than flash drive after all)? I have a X58 board (with JM362, JM363, and ICH10R IC's) Does ubuntu support fakeraid on any of them?
[21:50] <emil> ty
[21:50] <usuario> ty
[21:50] <DIFH-iceroot> I-Shot-Kennedy__: yes, but only the 8.10 alternate cd
[21:51] <DIFH-iceroot> !faikraid | I-Shot-Kennedy__
[21:51] <DIFH-iceroot> !raid | I-Shot-Kennedy__
[21:51] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> alternate cd?
[21:51] <DIFH-iceroot> I-Shot-Kennedy__: yes, the one with text-installer
[21:53] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> text-installer!? agh! I just skipped Mandriva 2009.1 RC because the gfx installer is non-functional on their latest 64bit cooker. Only text-installer works.
[21:54] <snowveil> how would I run a bash command at startup of X?
[21:54] <MenZa> the text installer is very simple, I-Shot-Kennedy__
[21:54] <MenZa> It's basically a stripped-down GUI without all the beauties.
[21:54] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> I am not that knowledgeable MenZa
[21:54] <MenZa> I-Shot-Kennedy__: it's the same as the standard installer a lot of the way, just not as pretty
[21:55] <MenZa> http://www.madirish.net/images/virt/ubuntu_install.gif <- e.g., likethat
[21:55] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Maybe I should go ahead with the flash drive install. Is there any specific file system that I should setup (since it is flash media). Somebody told me some file systems are lighter activity side of things.
[21:56] <eseven73> MenZa: isnt that like Ncursive or something?
[21:56] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> XFS, JFS, ReiserFS
[21:56] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> or whatever
[21:56] <MenZa> eseven73: ncursive?
[21:56] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> which would be best for flash media
[21:56] <snowveil> WTF
[21:56] <eseven73> MenZa: ummm google it :)
[21:57] <snowveil> tar, stop trying to include a folder I explicitly told you to exclude!
[21:57] <snowveil> maybe it include recursive folders automatically?
[21:57] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> or should I just use whatever file-system arrangement the Ubuntu installer picks?
[21:57] <yrlnry> badblocks gave a supremely unhelpful error message.  It said "badblocks: invalid starting block (0): must be less than 0".  Apparently this is UbuntuSpeak for "You named the mount directory instead of the raw device file, dummy".
[21:58] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: I don't think it will make much difference; ext3 is pretty much the standard nowadays
[21:58] <snowveil> I'm trying to exclude /home/mike/.wine/ and all of its contents, and I'm using "sudo tar tarfile.tgz --exclude "/home/mike/.wine/" /
[21:58] <yrlnry> snowveil: tarfile.tgz must follow the --exclude...
[21:58] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: but maybe ext2 would work, if removing journaling would decrease writes
[21:59] <yrlnry> snowveil: tar -cz --exclude ... -f tarfile.tgz   I think.
[21:59] <snowveil> you know what, looking at the man page I think you're right
[21:59] <snowveil> it's starting to make the file, but it's not excluding that directory...lemme try it again
[21:59] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> yeah schnauzer whichever fs is easier on the writes would be better. Will ubuntu let me pick? (I haven't tried full install yet)
[22:00] <yrlnry> snowveil: if you put the --exclude blah at the end, tar will try to *include* a file named "--exclude", and then it will *include" /home/mike/.wine, and it will include nothing else!
[22:01] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:01] <snowveil> no, it's including the whole root folder, but not excluding the /home/mike/.wine/ folder for some reason
[22:01] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> I got the latest 64bit version. The 9.04 one.
[22:01] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Running the live cd right now
[22:01] <eseven73> snowveil: sbackup has a nice GUI for backing up tar that allows you to exclude directories, once intalled you'll see it under adminstiration > simple backup config
[22:01] <jrib> snowveil: according to the man page --exclude expects a pattern
[22:01] <bahadeli> hello
[22:02] <sys64738> Im still trying to install ubuntu ppc 8.04 .iso cd on a G3 powerbook but I cant boot from the cd.
[22:02] <schnauzer> is there an option to create a usb startup disk under System > Administration? (I haven't used 9.04)
[22:02] <snowveil> I saw that "PATTERN" option, is that different than listing a directory?
[22:02] <cinex> hi. I am using mupen64plus. it seems the savefiles saved in intrepid do not work properly under hardy. they work but certain things dont. (the ocarina doesnt work). does anybody know why? I can't find out from google.
[22:03] <ceej__> Hey all I'm trying to get a line of commands to run when the server starts up or reboots, i've added a file to /etc/init.d but It doesn't work, I think it could be what's inside the file http://www.mibbit.com/pb/9CyaQ6
[22:03] <jrib> snowveil: well I'm guessing it's supposed to be a pattern...
[22:03] <jrib> snowveil: like foo*.c
[22:03] <cinex> ceej__: /etc/rc.local
[22:03] <cinex> try that
[22:03] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  when a system boots. the /etc/rc.local script is ran
[22:03] <eseven73> felix-da-catz_zz:  no one cares that you're asleep, why change nick all the time, noisy away messages are for the loose!
[22:03] <snowveil> so, home/mike/.wine/* instead of just home/mike/.wine/ ?
[22:03] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: is there an option to create a usb startup disk under System > Administration? (I haven't used 9.04)
[22:03] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> let me check
[22:04] <ceej__> cinex: Dr_willis: ah ok :) thank you....I also think what I'm trying to run might be in correct also
[22:04] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> sure is, I just launched it. What does it do schnauzer?
[22:04] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  make a script that runs all the stuff.. then run the script from /etc/rc.local via  scriptname &
[22:04] <cinex> ceej__: everythingin /etc/init.d needs to be softlinked to one of the rc$runlevel directorys
[22:05] <schnauzer> It creates a bootable installation of Ubuntu on a flash drive
[22:05] <yrlnry> How long should I expect badblocks to take to run on a device with 61 million blocks?
[22:05] <Dr_willis> yrlnry,  now many gb is it?
[22:05] <goathead> #math
[22:05] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: at least, it should ;)
[22:05] <yrlnry> Dr_willis: Around 61.
[22:06] <marcella> ciao
[22:06] <ceej__> cinex: Dr_willis I can put it in rc.local but would you be able to check if my sytax is correct, I tried running the line by hand but it didn't seem to work http://www.mibbit.com/pb/9CyaQ6
[22:06] <trustyourtech> hmm
[22:06] <Dr_willis> yrlnry,  depending on howmany badblocks it finds - it can vary i imagine. - I cant recall ever just running 'badblocks' by iteslf.
[22:06] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> oh
[22:06] <sys64738> Im still trying to install ubuntu ppc 8.04 .iso cd on a G3 powerbook but I cant boot from the cd.
[22:07] <cinex> ceej i dont know python
[22:07] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  dont use such a complex single line. make a script and break it down into somthimng more readable.
[22:07] <cinex> or nohup
[22:07] <ceej__> the python is fine
[22:07] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> I just found this: log writes killed the flash media. The problem wasn't just the frequency of the writes, but that the log writes tended to be small, frequent, and often to the same page of flash memory.
[22:07] <ceej__> Dr_willis: I would if I knew how :/
[22:07] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  each command on its own line...
[22:07] <usuario> All my gtk apps menus are missing... except for firefox', does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:07] <oCean_> sys64738: ppc is no longer supported. This is not the channel to ask
[22:08] <jurtti> I've got a serious problem with fglrx on jauntu and ati-card. So I need to access termianal without the gnome/kdm to open first. how do I do that in boot?
[22:08] <cinex> ceej__: does || mean or ?
[22:08] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: you mean on ext3?
[22:08] <Dr_willis> ceej_,   im not sure what you are trying to do in the script iother then run a lot of commands it seems
[22:08] <ceej__> Dr_willis: but i need to cd into the dir and execute the command
[22:08] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  so? tell the script to cd..
[22:08] <sexcopter> hi, just reading up on using nfs to share files on home network, and it talks about hosts.allow and hosts.deny. i like the idea of having ALL in .deny and granting specific access in .allow, but just wonder if i need to make any entries for localhost, or is that unnecessary?
[22:08] <ceej__> Dr_willis: I just want to cd in then run
[22:08] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  time to spend 10 min reading the Advanced bash scripting guide I think
[22:08] <ceej__> nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8003
[22:08] <crdlb> usuario: did you try to get a mac-style global menu bar at some point?
[22:08] <ceej__> and then run nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8004
[22:09] <crdlb> usuario: firefox is not a gtk app, which explains why it's not affected
[22:09] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  so you put those commands in the script.
[22:09] <ceej__> then cd into another dir and run nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8005
[22:09] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[22:09] <Dr_willis> cd .....
[22:09] <Dr_willis> command....
[22:09] <Dr_willis> cd .......
[22:09] <FloodBot2> Dr_willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:09] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> unsure, the person who said that didnt indicate which fs was used on the flash media
[22:09] <ceej__> Dr_willis: ah ok, can i just put it in rc.local?
[22:09] <Dr_willis> rather straight forward  - you may want a & at the end of the commands also.
[22:09] <BenLord> hello?
[22:09] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> although it sounds plausible. log writes are constant and could do that
[22:09] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  rc.local is just a script.. so of course.
[22:10] <ceej__> Dr_willis: thank you :)
[22:10] <Dr_willis> ceej_,  how did you comd up what that line in  the first place?     cd /root/klasproducts || nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8003 || nohup python web2py.py -a 'a' -p 8004 ||      the || may or MAY not be what you really want
[22:11] <Dr_willis> and im not sure that nohup is even needed
[22:12] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> schnauzer, since I intend to use Ubuntu for longer than few months I'm just going to break one of my PATA RAID0 arrays and install Ubuntu on one of the orphaned disks.
[22:12] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Thanks for the info tho.
[22:13] <schnauzer> I-Shot-Kennedy__: that might be a better solution
[22:13] <I-Shot-Kennedy__> Thanks again. Good bye all.
[22:13] <GuuZ> good day
[22:13] <HentaiDebian> Anyone deal with fingerprint readers and ubuntu?
[22:13] <GuuZ> can anyone tell me what this error is about: Mar 18 22:55:00 guus-laptop kernel: [  141.239202] wlan0: AP denied association (code=12)
[22:14] <usuario> ppl can anyone help me?
[22:14] <cinex> GuuZ: wifi ?
[22:14] <GuuZ> yeah wifi is working
[22:14] <schnauzer> !ask | usuario
[22:14] <cinex> GuuZ: sounds like a wifi error to me, but im guessing
[22:14] <GuuZ> but im reviewing my log
[22:15] <GuuZ> its a wifi error
[22:15] <wrektjet> question: should i partition my hdd NOW, when first installing ubuntu. or is it easy to just do it later
[22:15] <wrektjet> its a new hdd
[22:15] <cinex> wrektjet: I would do it during the install
[22:15] <psycovic> if i mount an ssh server, how do i cd to it in terminal?
[22:15] <usuario> does anyone know how to put gkt apps menu back?
[22:15] <GuuZ> its easy to do late wrektjet
[22:15] <GuuZ> its a part of the installation
[22:15] <GuuZ> choose manual
[22:15] <crdlb> usuario: are you going to respond to me?
[22:15] <GuuZ> but be sure you read a lil about making partings
[22:16] <wrektjet> i have the option rite now. i have yes
[22:16] <cinex> wrektjet: unless your new disk is just for space / storage and u dont want to reinstall
[22:16] <usuario> crdlb, sorry, what did u ask me?
[22:16] <crdlb> usuario: did you try to get a mac-style global menu bar at some point?
[22:16] <GuuZ> but does anyone know what could fix this error: Mar 18 22:55:00 guus-laptop kernel: [  141.239202] wlan0: AP denied association (code=12) it has to do with wlan but wlan is working
[22:16] <GuuZ> still getting these error
[22:17] <usuario> no I haven't
[22:17] <psycovic> if i mount an ssh server in nautilus, how do i `cd` to it in terminal?
[22:17] <usuario> it was after installing audacious I guess... but I already uninstalled it but the menus are not back
[22:17] <crdlb> usuario: pastebin the output of 'ls /usr/local/lib/'
[22:17] <jrib> psycovic: should be in ~/.gvfs/, check
[22:17] <epifanio> hi All
[22:17] <GuuZ> could powersafe trigger this
[22:18] <psycovic> jrib: there it is, thanks
[22:18] <usuario> paste where? here?
[22:18] <cinex> GuuZ: are u using wifi right now ?
[22:18] <perillux> I have a simple question but it would really help me out!  An answer to either of these questions would fix my problem.   1) how can I change the default session used when logging in, from the command line??....   2) how can I open the "login window" program to change the GDM theme?  Thank you!    I would prefer an answer to the first question though, but either one will do.
[22:18] <schnauzer> !pastebin
[22:18] <crdlb> !pastebin | usuario
[22:19] <usuario> !pastebin | usuario
[22:19] <epifanio> i'm having a problem with the last kernel update :-( ... i can't boot so i need to press esc when i power-on .. and select a precedent kernel
[22:19] <eighty7> Good Night everyone
[22:19] <cinex> perillux: there is a file u can edit for the default session. cant remoeber which one though.
[22:19] <jrib> perillux: /me gueses ~/.dmrc
[22:19] <jrib> guesses even
[22:19] <gRnt> anyone know a linux package that can open .rar files?
[22:19] <usuario> nothing happened
[22:19] <jrib> !unrar | gRnt
[22:19] <cinex> gRnt: unrar and unrar-free
[22:20] <sinbox> what is the command to test a modified xorg.conf in another screen? or is that not possible
[22:20] <crdlb> usuario: read the message from ubottu; it explains how to use a pastebin
[22:20] <cinex> gRnt: or unrar-nonfree
[22:20] <epifanio> these problem com up with the kernel update 2.27.13 and the 2.27-14 don't solved it
[22:21] <epifanio> i'm on a mac-book pro 15'' running ubuntu 8.10 64bit
[22:21] <usuario> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/133272/
[22:22] <wrektjet> uhoh. how do i choose the mount point for the ubuntu partition. is it "/boot"
[22:22] <usuario> already pasted at that site
[22:22] <blizzkid> lo all when gpg signing a mail in evolution, gmail displays the signature as an attachment. Is there a way to change it to an "inline signature"?
[22:22] <Fardouk> bonsoir
[22:22] <jtaji> wrektjet: you need at least "/" partition
[22:23] <usuario> crdlb, it's pasted in http://paste.ubuntu.com/133272/
[22:23] <wrektjet> i see. and the ebst oartition would be /boot?
[22:23] <wrektjet> *next
[22:23] <usuario> I installed gnomenu but I was using fine so far......
[22:23] <jtaji> wrektjet: separate /boot is generally not needed, except perhaps with raid or lvm
[22:24] <usuario> I've been using fine I mean.... but after I installed audacious, it messed everything up
[22:24] <jtaji> wrektjet: next common separate partition is probably /home
[22:24] <wrektjet> ok i will read a lil more i guess i dint understand the mounting article i read
[22:25] <Fardouk> hello, I'm french and in my TTY interface, my keyboard is set as american keyboard, I'll to change it on french, someone had a solution ?
[22:25] <crdlb> usuario: ok, try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgtk2.0-0
[22:25] <NemsSs> hello everybody
[22:25] <Fardouk> someone could help me in private ?
[22:26] <NemsSs> FArdouk you are french
[22:26] <usuario> crdlb, ok it's downloading here, once it's finisehd I'll tell ya
[22:26] <Fardouk> NemsSs: yes I am
[22:26] <NemsSs> me to
[22:27] <jtaji> wrektjet: what kind of system are you trying to set up?
[22:27] <epifanio> have you any suggestion about my kernel problem? do you know a place where can i segnale my problem?
[22:27] <Fardouk> NemsSs: my TTY interface, my keyboard is set as american keyboard, I'll to change it on french, have you a solution ?
[22:27] <_VIM_> psycovic: sftp psychovic@192.168.0.198:/home/psycovic  or graphically: ssh -fYC user@host nautilus         And just view it graphically
[22:28] <NemsSs> Systeme > Administration > Prise en charge linguistique
[22:28] <NemsSs> et tu choisi francais
[22:28] <_VIM_> !fr
[22:29] <NemsSs> I am sorry
[22:29] <Fardouk> merci ubottu
[22:29] <GibbaTheHutt> hiya, anyone know how to get gnome-keyring/seahorse to work in Jaunty (or help me figure why its not). Works fine in previous versions and on fedora, and ssh-agent works fine in Jaunty (so I know keys are fine)
[22:29] <wrektjet> ok. how much space do you think i need for the primary drive for my ubuntu os files?
[22:29] <GibbaTheHutt> erm ignore, wrong channel :)
[22:30] <FlareDS> !ubuntu+1 | GibbaTheHutt
[22:30] <jtaji> wrektjet: need more info on your requirements
[22:30] <GibbaTheHutt> yep, sorry thought I was in there!
[22:30] <FlareDS> its ok
[22:30] <NemsSs> is someone on Jaunty here ?
[22:31] <wrektjet> jtaji: im trying to partition the hdd that im installing on. i will install windows sometime in the future, but i want to put the os files ona seprate partition too
[22:31] <jtaji> NemsSs: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[22:31] <jtaji> wrektjet: separate from what, your data? also it's generally easier to install windows first, but you can do it later if you must
[22:31] <wrektjet> this will be the primary drive using ext3
[22:32] <wrektjet> yea but i dont have windows rite now.
[22:32] <usuario> cdrlb reinstalled it but it was no deal
[22:32] <wrektjet> jtaji: yes sperate from data exactly
[22:32] <jtaji> wrektjet: if you are separating out /home, you can probably want anywhere from 10 - 20 GB for /
[22:32] <usuario> well, I'll try to reboot the system, be right back
[22:32] <wrektjet> ok thanks ill go with 20 to be safe
[22:33] <fremapesua> Hello everyone...!!
[22:33] <archman> hello!!
[22:33] <fremapesua> I have a question about Ubuntu 8.10... anyone maybe available to answer?
[22:34] <schnauzer> !ask | fremapesua
[22:34] <fremapesua> I have an HP dv4 1140 go
[22:34] <chazco> Hi... what is the best alternative to gvfs for mounting S/FTP (menu entry under places ideally, but not auto-mounted)?
[22:34] <fremapesua> I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.10 32 bits but it wont let me at all
[22:34] <fremapesua> I have right now ubuntu 64 bits installed...
[22:35] <Kradziej> hi
[22:35] <fremapesua> works just fine but there some programs that are not ready for 64 bits
[22:35] <Mal3ko> hey guys whats the different: shutdown -r VS reboot?
[22:35] <gralco> does anyone want to begin learning C++ with me (I know a good hand full of it now)
[22:35] <Dr_willis> chazco,  depending on your needs.  i like the various' fuse' tools. i think theres a fuse ftp, or ftpfs fuse tool.
[22:35] <Huffalump> Adding a new printer in Hardy, it gives me a "not authorized" error with a message about password being bad, but I was never asked for the password. Where can I learn how to solve this?
[22:35] <fremapesua> Why i;m not able to install 32 bits in this laptop?
[22:36] <emma> I'm having pulseaudio problems again.
[22:36] <jtaji> Mal3ko: shutdown -r takes a time specifier (or 'now'), reboot doesn't, besides that nothing
[22:36] <emma> I'm wondering is there a solution to pulse audio problems? Is there a straightforward way, once one has lost audio, to get it back?
[22:36] <emma> Can you accomplish the same thing that restarting the computer does?
[22:36] <emma> Currently the only way I can get back audio is to restart my computer.
[22:36] <emma> That seems like a major problem.
[22:37] <bigrigger> emma: re-start pulseaudio instead of the system, can't hurt to try.
[22:37] <jrib> emma: well you can just kill it...
[22:37] <emma> doesn't seem to usually work.
[22:37] <emma> i'll try again...
[22:37] <elpiratadelcielo> hji
[22:37] <Mal3ko> oh ok
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hi, someone speak english?
[22:38] <emma> I did ps aux | grep pulseaudo
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hi
[22:38] <emma> I get two pids related to that search
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hello
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> hello emma
[22:38] <sir_yodle> having a problem -- when I lock my PC for a bit or try to suspend it (which doesn't really work) my wireless connection vanishes when I come back.  without trying to determine the cause quite yet, is there anything I can try to get it working again without rebooting?
[22:38] <emma> I am kill -9 both of them
[22:38] <jrib> emma: what do they say
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> jaja
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> are you killer?
[22:38] <riwa> I'm looking for a torrent client. The default one (Transmission) is crap. Something lightweight.
[22:38] <elpiratadelcielo> do you killer?
[22:38] <oCean_> elpiratadelcielo: please stop
[22:39] <elpiratadelcielo> ok
[22:39] <elpiratadelcielo> hi,
[22:39] <christoph_> join #ubuntu-de
[22:39] <elpiratadelcielo> i from peru
[22:39] <DrHouseAugust> where i can find information for change the fluxbox style and wallpaper
[22:39] <jrib> riwa: btdownloadcurses, rtorrent, gnome-btdownload, deluge...
[22:40] <elpiratadelcielo> hi dr house
[22:40] <DrHouseAugust> hi
[22:40] <elpiratadelcielo> where are you from?
[22:40] <emma> jrib: have you noticed that pulseaudio is very fragile and difficult to understand?
[22:40] <riwa> jrib: Are they listed in order of your preference?
[22:40] <schnauzer> !spam | elpiratadelcielo
[22:40] <elpiratadelcielo> i like the serie
[22:40] <oCean_> elpiratadelcielo: Again: stop. This is *not* a chat channel
[22:40] <jrib> riwa: coincidentally, yes
[22:40] <jrib> emma: yes!
[22:40] <riwa> jrib: Ok. Thanks!
[22:40] <wrektjet> ok one last partitioning question: i have set a / directory for the os, a swap area for virtual mem, and a nice section for datd. i want the remaining to be ready for windows and i selected fat32. should i monut to /winows or is that just obvious!!
[22:41] <oCean_> elpiratadelcielo: this is ubuntu support. If you have a question, let us know, otherwise, join any offtopic channel of your choice
[22:41] <usuario> crdlb, it didn't help... any other idea?
[22:41] <elpiratadelcielo> thank ocean
[22:41] <elpiratadelcielo> i new in this site
[22:42] <DrHouseAugust> piratadelcielo #kubuntu-es  #ubuntu-es
[22:42] <emma> jrib: i would genuinely like to really figure it out, and make peace with it, because it seems to be the future of audio on linux.
[22:42] <crdlb> usuario: ok, pastebin the output of 'ls /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules'
[22:42] <dronix> !es | elpiratadelcielo
[22:42] <emma> jrib: It's so frustrating though.
[22:42] <jurtti> how does one "load xorg.conf" on terminal?
[22:42] <jrib> jurtti: one does not.  What do you want to do?
[22:43] <wrektjet> jtaji: you still here?
[22:43] <smartasstronaut> 12
[22:43] <DrHouseAugust> hi, someone, where i can find information for change the fluxbox style and wallpaper?
[22:43] <jtaji> wrektjet: I'd typically use /media/windows or /media/whatever... but that's fine, also you are probably going to want ntfs for windows
[22:44] <jrib> DrHouseAugust: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook.php
[22:44] <riwa> jrib: btdownloadcurses is not in the repos. I got the other ones though.
[22:44] <[T]ank> is there a way to boot using verbose output? in other distros you can just hit space or some other keystroke to see each process.
[22:44] <jurtti> jrib: I'm trying to follow these instructions, but managed to remove the restricted driver from my ati: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6918786#post6918786
[22:44] <jrib> riwa: you probably already have it
[22:44] <sir_yodle> having a problem -- when I lock my PC for a bit or try to suspend it (which doesn't really work) my wireless connection vanishes when I come back.  without trying to determine the cause quite yet, is there anything I can try to get it working again without rebooting?
[22:45] <usuario> crdlb, ok it's pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/133283/
[22:45] <riwa> jrib: Oh, yeah! ;)
[22:45] <jrib> jurtti: sorry I have to go so no time to read that
[22:45] <[T]ank> sir_yodle: have you tried a NetworkManager restart?
[22:45] <jrib> riwa: if you want simple, that's simple :)
[22:45] <jurtti> jrib: ok
[22:45] <riwa> jrib: As long as it allows tinkering while running I'm cool..
[22:45] <sir_yodle> [T]ank: How would I do that?
[22:45] <[T]ank> type NetworkManger restart
[22:46] <bigrigger> [T]ank: remove the 'quiet splash' directive on the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst    ...you'll see all the boot messages.
[22:46] <wrektjet> jtaji: ohhhh. i can type my own directory. i didnt even realize i thought i had to select one! ok. and yes i should choose ntfs thanks.
[22:46] <crdlb> usuario: ahem, you did try to get a mac-style global menu bar ;)
[22:46] <[T]ank> bigrigger: thanks
[22:46] <usuario> how?? I installed gnomenu and xpmenu and vistamenu, but not mac menu or anything
[22:46] <wrektjet> strange. there is no ntfs option
[22:47] <usuario> how to correct it then?? do u know?
[22:47] <jurtti> can someone give a hint about "loading xorg.conf" after purging all fglrx?
[22:47] <crdlb> usuario: you apparently installed this http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ in some form
[22:47] <[T]ank> bigrigger: quiet splash was commented out. Do I remove it, or on comment it?
[22:48] <whileimhere> hi I keep getting the nm-applet asking for my password each time I log in. Is there a way to make it remember and stop asking/
[22:48] <bigrigger> [T]ank: are you sure you're looking at the correct line? make a backup file first.
[22:48] <crdlb> usuario: did you use something called 'Ubuntu Tweak'?
[22:48] <usuario> crdlb, hummm globalmenu, I guess I have installed it.... but it was ok until I installed audacious how to get it back then?
[22:48] <l7> hi, how can i restrict my web server and ssh server to a specific range of IPs?
[22:49] <usuario> yeah, I have ubuntu tweak
[22:49] <usuario> if I uninstall it, would the menus get back again???
[22:49] <chronic> how can i update an installed app from a tar.gz file?
[22:50] <usuario> If I uninstall the globalmenu I mean
[22:50] <wrektjet> jtisme: will just leave the partition unused and i can always get back to it later
[22:50] <sir_yodle> how would I perform a restart of network manager?  trying to get a vanished network connection to come back.  other suggestions would be nice too
[22:50] <bigrigger> l7: the /etc/hosts.allow file
[22:50] <kitche> cast: hmm then what is called a domU?
[22:51] <crdlb> usuario: yes
[22:51] <crdlb> usuario: if you uninstaled this global menu package
[22:51] <l7> bigrigger: ah thanks, i'll check it out
[22:51] <maxbaldwin> sir_yodle: kill *all* network connections, or just kill the program *networkmanager*
[22:52] <usuario> crdlb, humm uninstalled it but it was no deal... well, maybe now I have to reboot right?
[22:52] <crdlb> usuario: any new apps you start should work
[22:53] <usuario> crdlb no, it's not working yet
[22:53] <usuario> crdlb, I opened nautilus up but no menu is there
[22:53] <sir_yodle> Also, my wireless conn. is called eth1-- its not an ethernet connection at all though, is that a problem?
[22:53] <crdlb> usuario: you uninstalled gnome-globalmenu?
[22:54] <sir_yodle> maxbaldwin: sorry that last was directed to you
[22:54] <usuario> yeah
[22:54] <crdlb> usuario: I guess try rebooting, or at least logging out
[22:55] <usuario> crdlb, ok I'll be right back then
[22:55] <wrektjet> can i just get confirmation before i partition the drive: partition #1 as ext3 #6 as ext3 #5 as swap and i left the remainder as "do not use". i can always com back to the unused portion right??
[22:55] <charm> How can I list what modules might be in the kernel but not active until I do a modprobe <modulename>?
[22:55] <Dodge-Ram> Hello, can anyone help me with ubuntu on ps3?
[22:56] <badfish69> brb
[22:57] <usuario> crdlb, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it workied.... tnx a lot man
[22:58] <usuario> crdlb, do u know any good program to remaster my ubuntu and put into a dvd to reinstall in another pc?
[22:58] <crdlb> nope
[22:58] <maxbaldwin> sir_yodle: it depends on what you're trying to do. Are you wanting to kill all of your network connections, or just restart the program network manager? if it's just the program, you can "ps aux | grep networkmanager && kill <pid>"
[22:59] <wrektjet> when i selected "do not use this partition" i can always come back to it right? im not cutting it away forever?
[22:59] <usuario> crdlb, ok.... tnx a lot for the help, I would say that I love you but since I'm not gay, I'm gonna say that I apreciated your help very much, lol
[22:59] <usuario> crdlb, may GOD bless you, and tnx again, c ya
[22:59] <iamthelostboy> hello.. I'm building a system running ubuntu 8.04, and when started / (on sda1) is mounted read only, and /var (on sda2) is read/write.. i cant see anything in the start up scripts on my working 8.04 machine that is very different to the non-working one, and cant see anything which is chaning the mounts around.. any ideas what might be causing / to not be remounted as read/write?
[23:00] <genii> iamthelostboy: / mount options in fstab are usually set to remount in read-only if there is some error at first
[23:00] <natalie> I need help.  Any video playback causes my computer to freeze.  I need to know how to fixt it
[23:01] <genii> iamthelostboy: So you should probably boot to recovery kernel and fsck the drive
[23:01]  * zoran 
[23:01] <iMatter> How do you convert a binary .plist file to XML
[23:01] <zoran> omg
[23:01] <iamthelostboy> my fstab for / shows /dev/sda1  /  ext3  defaults  0  1
[23:02] <iamthelostboy> does defaults remount to readonly on errors
[23:02] <iamthelostboy> ?
[23:02] <wrektjet> ok im seriously a click away from installation.... but i wanna make sure im not messing up the partitions... "do not use" means its available for future use, right???
[23:02] <aspoor> Does anyone use rubyonrails here?
[23:02] <charm> I have a bluetooth pcmcia card and I'm just trying to figure out what module it might use? hidd doesn't show anything... the light on the card lights up.
[23:02] <Chaorain> I'm trying to install "Tesseract Trainer" when I run "./configure" everything looks fine but I get "configure: error: Cannot find and link GLUT
[23:02] <Chaorain> " help?
[23:02] <aspoor> is it better than just running PHP/MYSQL?
[23:03] <charm> Chaorain maybe trying installing libglut3 or libglut3-dev
[23:03] <natalie> can anybody point me in the right direction to troubleshoot my video card
[23:03] <genii> iamthelostboy: "defaults" is: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async   options.
[23:04] <jaguar__> lol
[23:04] <iamthelostboy> aspoor: ruby is a nice language, and rails is a fairly full featured framework, though php/mysql is a very common language and setup
[23:04]  * wrektjet is trying not to get upset
[23:05] <Pur3vil> anyone awake
[23:06] <sir_yodle> is it uncommon for my wireless connection to be called eth1?
[23:06] <dronix> no
[23:06] <Pur3vil> I don't see why it would be it's just the order that the card is in
[23:06] <sir_yodle> just didn't think wlan was considered ethernet.
[23:06] <Greencoat421> anyone familiar with ENvy or ati drivers?
[23:06] <Pur3vil> but I have some hefty network issues that I hope someone can help me with
[23:06] <Chaorain> charm, thanks out of curiosity how do I install both at the same time? "sudo apt-get install program1 ... program2"?
[23:06] <natalie> can anybody point me in the right direction to troubleshoot my video card
[23:07] <Chaorain> natalie, what type of card?
[23:07] <natalie> Chaorain: ATI
[23:08] <Dodge-Ram> can anyone please help me with ubuntu on ps3?
[23:08] <abdo222> Arabic
[23:08] <Ilie> hi , I just installed kubuntu, I'm having some problems with dual monitor setup
[23:08] <natalie> Chaorain: ATI Radeon that is
[23:08] <abdo222> Hi
[23:08] <Ilie> I have a 20" samsung tft monitor that uses the same resolution as the laptop
[23:08] <Ilie> any ideas how can I change it ?
[23:08] <Ilie> in System Setting -> Display it detects only the laptop (default)
[23:09] <abdo222> I can not internet sitting in CentOs 5.2 . How to do ?
[23:09] <Chaorain> natalie, have you ionstalled proprietary drivers? (probably spelled wrong)
[23:10] <natalie> Chaorain:  The flgrx was installed automatically... I haven't downloaded the one from the website and compiled it by hand if that is what you mean
[23:10] <Chaorain> charm, thanks that worked but now I'm missing pcre
[23:11] <ader10> ntfs-config doesn't show the dialog to mount my filesystem anymore, how can I get it back?
[23:11] <Chaorain> natalie, for my Nvidia I had to go System>Administration>Hardware Devices try that
[23:12] <charm> Same thing Chaorain install libpcre3 or libpcre3-dev
[23:12] <Chaorain> charm, thanks
[23:13] <charm> Use apt-cache search <whatever> | less and you should be able to pick out other things you might need.
[23:13] <sukumade> does anyone know of a video card benchmark program for linux?
[23:13] <natalie> Chaorain:  I do have the FGLRX installed at this time... but I can't seem to get the card to work quite correctly
[23:13] <charm> Where <whatever> is what you're looking for, i.e. pcre
[23:13] <Chaorain> charm, oh so thats how apt-chace works ty
[23:14] <verma_ii> is there a way to resent sound system in ubuntu .. every once in a while my sound system stops working (no audio at all) and the only way it works is by restarting.
[23:14] <J_el_Che> if one is trying to download a .deb package and a message come up indicating that the package is located in the channel, what and where can one find this channel?
[23:15] <J_el_Che> rather install vice download
[23:15] <Chaorain> natalie, what is the problem? won't work at all or a little bug?
[23:16] <natalie> Chaorain:  Whenever I do any form of video playback it causes my computer to crash shortly afterword
[23:16] <J_el_Che> anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
[23:17] <raistlyn> you should have a choice to join chat and if u know name of the room where file is then just typ #<room name>
[23:18] <J_el_Che> can someone PM me so that i can solve this riddle?
[23:18] <sir_yodle> what is the "module" pertaining to my wlan card?
[23:18] <Chaorain> natalie, do you have the right version installed?
[23:18] <qeed> hello i have a problem trying to install this package, libx11-dev this is on intrepid, and the error is http://rafb.net/p/NSW0ZR37.html
[23:18] <qeed> how should i resolve it?
[23:19] <natalie> Chaorain:  I think so... I am trying to figure that out right now
[23:19] <raistlyn> u need to fix the broken package list first
[23:20] <J_el_Che>  if one is trying to install a .deb package and a message come up indicating that the package is located in the channel, what and where can one find this channel?
[23:21] <raistlyn> if u were paying attention j_el_che i answered that question already
[23:21] <sir_yodle> looking to whitelist network modules for suspend in acpi-support-- how do I determine the name of my wireless module?
[23:21] <natalie> Chaorain:  should I try the open source driver as opposed to the proprietary driver?
[23:21] <Akkernight> Why can't I join channel #C++ ?
[23:21] <raistlyn> open a terminal and type iwconfig
[23:22] <genii> Akkernight: Possibly because your nick isn't registered on freenode
[23:22] <J_el_Che> raistlyn: sorry i didn't know you were refering to me...It's not related to..IRC
[23:22] <Akkernight> genii, I've been on there often before
[23:22] <sam555> where is the documentation for firewall in ubuntu 8.04
[23:22] <Chaorain> natalie, you could try but the propietary driver should be made by the manufacturer and work better
[23:23] <dreamy> nightrid3r: hi :) you there ?
[23:23] <natalie> Chaorain:  But why would my laptop lock up when playing video?
[23:23] <ZigBee> i've setup a repository + package, but when i install the package apt-get always wants to update the package altough i have the latest version installed, any ideaS?
[23:23] <dreamy> hi room
[23:24] <genii> Akkernight: Works for me, but forwards to ##c++   ... perhaps try that one directly
[23:24] <wrektjet> hey. if one selects "do not use this partition" when partitioning for the first time a new HDD that ubunti is going on, its simple to access that space later on, correct?
[23:24] <Chaorain> natalie, sory I'm out of ideas
[23:24] <wrektjet> becaus ei want that sapce for windows and there is no ntfs formatting option
[23:24] <Akkernight> genii, I'm trying that one...
[23:24] <raistlyn> no it is not simple to access until after it has been partitioned
[23:25] <raistlyn> no unpartitioned space can be access
[23:25] <J_el_Che> are there "channels" in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[23:25] <chronic> how can i update an installed app from a tar.gz file?
[23:26] <sir_yodle> where can I get a list of the hardware in my PC?  something like device manager in windows?
[23:27] <pepperjack> sir_yodle: lspci -v or lshw  you can lspci -v > hardwarelist.txt or something
[23:27] <mortal1> anyone here using 64bit ubuntu and have the java plugin working for firefox?  Sun supposedly supports a 64bit plugin, but I symlinked the .so file, and it still doesn't work
[23:27] <wrektjet> ok. so in the future its no problem to format that partition in ntfs. finallt i can click "install" !!!
[23:27] <oCean_> raistlyn: I think that wrektjet means, that it is quite easy to partition and/or use diskspace that has not been formatted/partitioned during initial install
[23:27] <pepperjack> sir_yodle: im sure there are nice graphical tools too
[23:28] <raistlyn> if ur formatting ntfs r u iinstalling windows ?
[23:28] <sir_yodle> pepperjack: thanks, that's perfect.  needed to find a module name.  is that the best way to do so?
[23:29] <raistlyn> ur probably right ocean unfortunately wasnt very clear in statement
[23:29] <oCean_> raistlyn: one can access ALL space at ANY time. Any not-used space can easily be partitioned and formatted, and then used
[23:29] <oCean_> raistlyn: indeed :)
[23:29] <wrektjet> i want to in the future install windows
[23:29] <pepperjack> sir_yodle: well to identify the module you need yes. like it you needs to know the chipset or something of your wireless card
[23:29] <wrektjet> but the partioning tool in the installer doesntoffer ntfs
[23:30] <sir_yodle> actually I needed to whitelist the module in acpi-support to keep it alive when suspending.  otherwise my wifi gets killed even when I lock the screen.  hope this works, bout to find out
[23:30] <oCean_> wrektjet: Indeed. Why would a Linux installer need NTFS?
[23:30] <wrektjet> lol. it wouldnt!
[23:30] <elli222> but it does in ubuntu!
[23:30] <raistlyn> well yeah ocean all space can be acessed but who wants to be chasing down sectors
[23:30] <raistlyn> that is a lot of work
[23:30] <wrektjet> btw how long do you think it will take to partition a 640 gig hdd
[23:30] <raistlyn> but then again i am lazy
[23:30] <elli222> it canoh wait
[23:30] <wrektjet> can i go get dinner?
[23:30] <oCean_> wrektjet: exactly. You can leave the space blank, and use it afterwards if you *really* need NTFS.
[23:31] <raistlyn> depends on type of format
[23:31] <wrektjet> oCean_:i want  a backup in case ubuntu turns out to be too hard for me
[23:31]  * elli222 slaps self for confusing wubi with live CD
[23:31] <raistlyn> what i did wrekjet is i let my laptop come with that vista OS (garbage as it is)
[23:31] <anom01y> how do I connect to cups to setup a printer that is connected to a windows computer (printer sharing) ?
[23:31] <Henry_> hi, i am newer in kubuntu, i have a problem with the usr root, when it starts it turns white and after black, what can i do to fix it
[23:31] <raistlyn> then i just installed ubuntu inside it
[23:32] <anom01y> I tried 192.168.0.1:631, but nothing is there, cupsd is running
[23:32] <raistlyn> ubuntu formatted the 30 gigs i wanted for it in ext3 format
[23:32] <oCean_> wrektjet: I reckon, when you want NTFS, that you also have windows.
[23:32] <wrektjet> oCean_: not at the moment
[23:32] <cyberhacker> hola
[23:32] <Henry_> hola
[23:32] <cyberhacker> que onda
[23:32] <jaguar__> hola amigo
[23:32] <jaguar__> que onda nanyana
[23:33] <oCean_> !es
[23:33] <raistlyn> anomoly that is a router ip addy
[23:33] <wrektjet> oCean_: planning ahead. maybe ill get a copy oif xp or wait until win 7
[23:33] <crankharder> how do I drop the ubuntu startup screen to see the processes starting?
[23:33] <cyberhacker> soy nuevo
[23:33] <cyberhacker> que se hace aqui
[23:33] <mortal1> next question, does anyone know the .so that's the correct java plugin for firefox in 1.6.12?
[23:33] <Henry_> i dont know
[23:33] <oCean_> wrektjet: I understand
[23:33] <elli222> ls /usr/lib/ | grep java ?
[23:34] <pepperjack> crankharder: when grub loads hit esc to see the grub menu then hit e to edit the ubuntu entry hit e again to edit kernel line and remove the splash option and hit enter (i think)
[23:34] <pepperjack> or b to boot actually after that
[23:34] <anom01y> never mind I figured it out myself, glad to see people are quick to the draw here
[23:35] <Chaorain> how do I install multiple packages at once using apt-get?
[23:35] <pepperjack> Chaorain: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3
[23:35] <hacker07> apt-get install app1 app2 app3 apetc
[23:35] <elli222> apt-get install package1 package2...
[23:35] <tonsofpcs> don't forget package5!
[23:35] <Chaorain> ty
[23:35] <tonsofpcs> [also, depends first]
[23:35] <elli222> depends not neccecary
[23:35] <elli222> apt auto figures them
[23:36] <elli222> unless there are external depends...
[23:36] <Chaorain> what happend to package4?
[23:36] <elli222> it died
[23:36] <elli222> a moment of silence to package4
[23:37] <secondgenesis> what's the command to connect to a desktop running krfb?
[23:37] <elli222> YOU BROKE THE SILENCE!
[23:37] <secondgenesis> sorry lol
[23:38] <bosco_> i need to know if there is a better vps or deticated server other than linode.com that offers ubuntu ????
 budget is 40 per month
 i know i wont find a deticated for that price
[23:38] <bosco_> * BrunoXLambert has quit ("Quitte")
[23:38] <FloodBot2> bosco_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <bosco_> srry didnt mean to hit eneter
[23:38] <elli222> i dunno what krfb is
[23:38] <secondgenesis> it's a rdp server
[23:38] <LjL> !offtopic | bosco_
[23:38] <Chaorain> you don't realize how easy Ubuntu is untill you have to compile a package from scratch that you are missing 20 libraries for
[23:38] <elli222> xrdp?
[23:38] <secondgenesis> connecting with rdesktop isn't working
[23:38] <secondgenesis> nope, krfb
[23:38] <secondgenesis> it's for kubuntu but works on ubuntu
[23:39] <secondgenesis> tried rdesktop ip but all I get is the keyboard autoselect
[23:39] <secondgenesis> and no connection.
[23:39] <elli222> try xrdp
[23:39] <elli222> it works for me
[23:39] <secondgenesis> for server?
[23:39] <elli222> yes
[23:39] <secondgenesis> OK  thanks
[23:39] <elli222> xrdp is a rdp server
[23:40] <elli222> krfb is for RFB clients! not RDP clients!
[23:40] <elli222> read the description!
[23:40] <elli222> oh, and VNC
[23:42] <aboleth> hi
[23:42] <aboleth> i have a problem with my xbox 360 controller
[23:42] <aboleth> starting with 8.10 it recognizes it as a mouse
[23:43] <aboleth> i found that this is a common problem
[23:43] <wrektjet> hmm where do i get autorun from?
[23:43] <elli222> im not surprized a Xbox controller wouldnt work well with linux...
[23:43] <aboleth> i tried the solution here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-October/005956.html
[23:43] <aboleth> elli222: it used to
[23:43] <aboleth> it's not just for that controller
[23:43] <aboleth> its for all
[23:44] <aboleth> its a bug introduced in 8.10
[23:44] <aboleth> nothing to do with it being from microsoft
[23:44] <wrektjet> it says "error autorunning software" cannot find the autorun program
[23:44] <aboleth> even after adding the fdi file it still detects it as a mouse
[23:45] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Hey all!! Question about FREECIV! I tried to install the game through the terminal, but no dice. Can't find it anywhere! whats up??
[23:46] <pepperjack> SpuddlyMcMartin: look under 'games'
[23:47] <TEMPO> Has anyone ever installed ubuntu onto a hp dv2000 laptop i found info for in off of google but i want to see if anyone has actually been really successful
[23:47] <deany> samba question:  i enabled folder sharing in intrepid/gnome and it installed the needed components, and it works fine, except for adding a samba user..   "smbpasswd -a newuser"  typed pass in and i get "Failed to modify password entry for user newuser"
[23:47] <pepperjack> SpuddlyMcMartin: jk try pkill gnome-panel to see if it shows up after it respawns
[23:47] <aboleth> anyone have a fix for the controller
[23:47] <SpuddlyMcMartin> pepperjack: did that, its not there, its weird!
[23:48] <SpuddlyMcMartin> pepperjack: whats pkill?
[23:48] <Jeruvy> deany: if the user doesn't exist you need to adduser first.
[23:48] <Chaorain> In running "make" on Tesserac Trainer it gave this  http://paste-it.net/public/b64a9a3/     help?
[23:48] <TEMPO> Anyone?
[23:48] <deany> Jeruvy, doh.... i thought that wasnt needed.. oh well
[23:49] <elli222> Chaorain, link to program?
[23:49] <akincer> I have issues with a Q3 derivative (Urban Terror) where my network hangs for a second and my mouse and keyboard don't respond correctly all of the time. Anybody have any ideas where I can start?
[23:49] <deany> how do you add a user with no shell access and no home folder?
[23:49] <Chaorain> elli222, http://www.mushware.com/portal.php#mushware_shop
[23:49] <ader10> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/231265 Please help me out ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive doesn't help)
[23:49] <gencha> is there a command to re-create the snakeoil certificates in /etc/ssl? or do i have to manually create and overwrite them?
[23:50] <wrektjet> hey im trying to install the drivers that came with my mobo but the autorun doesnt work... how else can i install them w/o going thru each and evrey file
[23:50] <Chaorain> elli222, I'm useing Linux GPL
[23:50] <erle-> what does " Cannot utime: Operation not permitted" mean?
[23:51] <SpuddlyMcMartin> Would there be any reason why FREECIV would not install on my system?
[23:51] <akincer> network and mouse/keyboard issues -- anybody?
[23:52] <ruben23> hi i bought an acer laptop..if i installed it with ubuntu..do i need to install drivers for it or it would be detected automatically..
[23:54] <akincer> Where does avahi store logs?
[23:54] <bernz> fairly typical intrepid desktop system, tired of firefox "freezing" (b&w) too much, trying epiphany: installed via "Applications | Add/Remove..."; no new shortcut installed on the 'Applications' menu... ideas?
[23:55] <hatori> こんちわー
[23:55] <Azzmodan> hi to you too
[23:55] <elli222> bernz, Applications/Internet
[23:55] <hatori> hi
[23:55] <ader10> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/231265 Please help me out ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive doesn't help) Can't rename filesystems
[23:55] <Jeruvy> ruben: you should confirm directly with acer sales about driver availability, additionally you can check !hcl if there is any info.
[23:56] <bazhang> !jp
[23:56] <oCean_> !jp | hatori
[23:56] <hatori> thank you
[23:56] <hatori> ok im going ubuntu jp
[23:56] <Jeruvy> ader10: there is additionally a CVE on that bug, have ou reviewed that link?
[23:57] <ader10> Jeruvy, Yes, I was wondering if there was a workaround
[23:57] <ader10> thank you though.
[23:58] <wrektjet> i need to install all the drivers that come with my mobo but the autorun doesnt work. where should i start
[23:58] <Jeruvy> ader10: it looks like a duplicate report, maybe a search for the former may yield more, I couldn't find it myself.
[23:58] <aboleth> has anyone heard of the 8.10 controller problem?
[23:58] <ader10> Thanks.
[23:58] <aboleth> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/274203
[23:59] <dreamy> is it ok to install kde applications on gnome?
[23:59] <raistlyn> what controller