[00:16] <alienkid> I guys is there anyone that is good at create the buttons for an emerald theme?
[00:19] <alienkid> anyone?
[01:25] <pronto> so when i log into xfce (insalled base eeebuntu, then xfce4) i get this error: http://pastebin.ca/1363937
[01:51] <Edga1> ﻿hello everyone
[01:51] <Edga1> ﻿I have ubuntu(by default gnome), and I have already installed the xfce, I'm on xfce
[01:52] <Edga1> ﻿I would like to know how to show my Desktop files that I have in my personal_folder/MyDesktop/ in that gnome shows in the Desktop, how do I set this in Xfce?
[02:36] <j1mc> TheSheep: howdy :)
[02:38] <cmanns> Hey guys does xubuntu use xfce 4.6?
[02:38] <j1mc> cmanns: xubuntu 9.04 will use xfce 4.6
[02:39] <cmanns> ah
[02:39] <j1mc> it will be out at the end of april
[02:39] <cmanns> so xubuntu is just ubuntu + xfce?
[02:39] <cmanns> I've never used any of the ubuntus :P
[02:39] <j1mc> yes, the ubuntu core operating system, with the xfce desktop environment
[02:40] <cmanns> ah
[02:40] <j1mc> what has sparked your interest in xfce/xubuntu?
[02:40] <pronto> cmanns: i know you from some where o.o
[02:41] <cmanns> probably pronto
[02:41] <cmanns> j1mc, only desktop manager i use is xfce
[02:42] <cmanns> Never tried ubuntu's but I thought hell if xubuntu is on 4.6 may as well
[02:45] <pronto> cmanns: mind if i pm you?
[02:45] <cmanns> gof or it
[02:46] <Mood> cmanns: xubuntu does not have all the packages that ubuntu has (including xfce). some things that are not included by default: apache, mysql, php, samba, etc
[02:49] <cmanns> ah
[02:50] <brandonban6> !flash
[02:50] <j1mc> Mood: what do you mean?  xubuntu and ubuntu use the exact same repositories.  if you can install something on ubuntu, you can also install it on xubuntu.
[02:50] <Mood> jlmc: i meant "out of the box"
[02:51] <j1mc> well, the desktop version of ubuntu doesn't include apache and mysql out of the box, either.  :)
[02:51] <Mood> j1mc: man, you're second char "1" confused the heck out of me... thought it was an "ell", lol
[02:51] <j1mc> :)
[02:52] <brandonban6> I've installed the latest flash.so from adobe and i"ve installed gnash, but no go when it comes to flash videos on the web. Just shows a black screen. :( Any thoughts?
[02:58] <Laserbeak43> how do i split a partition in half  on the sda that is running the OS being used at the same time?
[03:02] <genii> You can't
[03:04] <brandonban6> here's a screenshot of my flash issue: http://tinyurl.com/cdpzf7
[03:22] <pronto> so when i log into xubuntu, i get this error message, and then xfce crashes http://pastebin.ca/1364004
[03:22] <pronto> i've tried reinstalling xfce already
[03:29] <cody-somerville> pronto, rm ~/.config/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc
[03:29] <cody-somerville> Your configuration file is causing xfce4-session to segfault it looks like
[03:34] <pronto> no luck :(
[03:42] <pronto> o.o
[03:42] <pronto> i fixed it
[03:42] <pronto> i removed everything under /ext/xdg/autostart
[03:45] <cody-somerville> So /etc/xdg/autostart/eeepc-statusicon.desktop must have been the problem
[03:46] <pronto> not sure, because before i just was like "f--- it" and removed them all, i tried to just remove that one
[03:50] <jimisrvrox> Hey guys I have a wusb54gcsv2 and I tried to ndis the win drivers for it and no dice on ubuntu 8.10 so then I tried drivers for v1 and no dice..im wondering what I can do to make the damn thing work!
[03:55] <pronto> whack it with a hammer!
[03:56] <jimisrvrox> hah
[03:56] <pronto> speed booster?
[03:56] <jimisrvrox> I sure gave the linksys support dude an eye full last night telling them shit about it..
[03:56] <jimisrvrox> yeah
[03:56] <jimisrvrox> whats funny is i have a v1 card adn it works fine on all machines
[03:56] <pronto> i;ve had issues with those, but that was like 4 years ago
[03:57] <jimisrvrox> yeah well it was unexpected to me..but meh..
[03:57] <jimisrvrox> atleast im not worrying about conflicker on winblows :D
[03:58] <jimisrvrox> I got a guy I think Im just gonna trade for a pci
[03:58] <jimisrvrox> bc I have a pci in this box and it works fine
[03:59] <jimisrvrox> I think its just one of those lack of driver support things
[03:59] <pronto> isn't there a way to get around that
[04:00] <jimisrvrox> well I tried ndis with both the v2 and v1 drivers
[04:00] <jimisrvrox> and went as far as -a to assign it to the nic
[04:00] <jimisrvrox> and reboot and both times got stuck at starting bluetooth
[04:00] <jimisrvrox> so i pulled a x fix and -r ndiswdm
[04:00] <jimisrvrox> to get back to where I was
[04:01] <jimisrvrox> where I get when checking ifconfig wlan0 up is error flags no device something like that
[04:01] <jimisrvrox> so ifconfig shows nothing
[04:16] <jimisrvrox> hey forces
[04:16] <forces> hola
[04:17] <jimisrvrox> hablas ingles or no?
[04:20] <pronto> you scared him D:
[04:21] <pronto> wait , i need to wait up
[05:21] <Puppet_Master> Hello
[05:21] <Puppet_Master> I have some troubles with xubuntu 8.10 on my laptop
[05:21] <Puppet_Master> impossible to read a CDROM
[05:22] <forces> Puppet_Master, try to burn again
[05:23] <Puppet_Master> forces, burn ?
[05:23] <Puppet_Master> I just can't read any CD
[05:23] <Puppet_Master> Original or burned
[05:27] <forces> Puppet_Master, did you configure your bios?
[05:27] <Puppet_Master> I have just made the test this morning
[05:28] <Puppet_Master> I don't look anything in bios
[05:28] <Puppet_Master> it works fine before whith liveUSB kubuntu an M$ WXp
[05:28] <Puppet_Master> and*
[05:31] <Puppet_Master> I take a look
[05:32] <forces> if the problem is the disc
[05:32] <forces> burn it again
[05:34] <Puppet_Master> the disc works fine in other PC
[05:34] <Puppet_Master> and in this one when I boot on Windows or LiveUSB
[05:45] <Puppet_Master> http://paste.ubuntu.com/132849/
[05:46] <Puppet_Master> is this talks to anybody ?
[05:47] <zoredache> perhaps your cdrom has failed
[05:50] <Puppet_Master> only on one computer
[05:50] <Puppet_Master> with xubuntu
[05:51] <Puppet_Master> it works on the same computer under windows (damned)
[05:57] <forces> that doesn't mean that your cdrom it's ok
[06:03] <zoredache> I mean the actualy cdrom-drive has failed.  If the disk is good, then your drive may be bad
[06:04] <Puppet_Master> no sure it works on 4 PCs, that means my CD is bad ...
[06:04] <Puppet_Master> but the drive works fine with LiveUSB and Windows
[06:04] <Puppet_Master> and it reads DVD fine with this xubuntu
[06:05] <Puppet_Master> it don't read any CDROM
[06:05] <zoredache> if it doesn't read any disk, that sounds like a drive failure...
[06:06] <Puppet_Master> no it don't read any "CDROM" only with the installed xubuntu
[06:07] <Puppet_Master> it works fine wiht liveUSB kubuntu and windows
[06:07] <Puppet_Master> with*
[07:13] <Slor> Probably more an X server question than specifically xubunu, but...
[07:14] <Slor> If I replace an OLD ATI card with a not-as-old nVidia card in my xubuntu box and power it up, is X smart enough to pick up the type of new card and load appropriate video server and all?
[07:14] <Slor> I'm no expert on the innerworkings of xfree86
[07:15] <Slor> or xorg, I guess is what it is now?
[07:17] <TheSheep> it will use the free nv driver
[07:17] <TheSheep> you will have to use the system->hardware drivers  menu to install proprietary nvidia driver if you want acceleration support
[07:20] <Slor> I'm ok with whatever ubuntu provides out of the box, as long as I won't have issues with x trying to start up and not knowing how to handle the new video card and get proper resolution and all that.
[07:21] <TheSheep> in the worst case it will ask you to reconfigure X
[07:21] <TheSheep> with a dialog box with a 'reconfigure x' button
[07:21] <Slor> I'll check out the proprietary driver install, though - thanks.
[07:22] <Slor> I expect that's similar to the install process for certain wireless cards in laptops.
[10:03] <_Pete_> !vnc
[13:55] <land> has anyone tried Mono-2.2_OpenSUSE-11.0?
[15:07] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I got this wusb54gcsv2 that I tried to ndis the win drivers for it and no dice tried the -a to assign it and still no dice. I also have a v1 of the same nic that does work on my boxes and tried the v1 set of drivers and still nothing. Anybody have any luck with these nics? Cant find much of anything on the net on it either.
[15:38] <brandonban6> anyone running a 8600 GT card?
[15:40] <TheSheep> GeForce 8600M GT
[15:40] <TheSheep> brandonban6: macbook pro?
[15:42] <brandonban6> nah, an old dell. I'm updating the card and was curious what drivers the Nvidia has out (i'm using an old ATI Radeon XR300 right now)....It looks like the latest version Nvidia has released is 177. So I was curious if anyone using that platform, and if so, how well was it running.
[15:57] <uberNoob> howdy folks, can someone tell me how to set panel transparency in xfce?
[16:02] <TheSheep> uberNoob: in settings-> window manager settings->compositor enabled compositing
[16:02] <TheSheep> uberNoob: then right-click on the panel, select preferences, and move the new shiny 'transparency' slider
[16:04] <uberNoob> TheSheep: duh; yeah, I'm used to gnome so for me this xfce is new. I have to say, my 5 year old machine loves it. Thank you.
[16:05] <uberNoob> TheSheep: how about changing the transparency of the panels?
[16:06] <TheSheep> 17:02 < TheSheep> uberNoob: then right-click on the panel, select preferences,  and move the new shiny 'transparency' slider
[16:08] <uberNoob>  TheSheep: thank you
[16:28] <TheSheep> brandonban6: it runs well
[16:37] <poopuse1> hi can someone explain me this : i just installed xubuntu 8.04 loged in as a user clicked at updates and then os asks me to enter root password...and i am thinking "i don't remeber setting one" so i enter user password and everything works.user pass = admin pass?i am confused
[16:39] <knome> poopuse1, the first set user is marked as administratotr.
[16:39] <genii> poopuse1: *buntu uses sudo which comes back to the user's password
[16:39] <knome> poopuse1, that means he has sudo rights. everytime it asks for roto password, just enter yours.
[16:39] <poopuse1> thank you gentleman.
[16:41] <poopuse1> bye
[17:46] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I got this wusb54gcsv2 that I tried to ndis the win drivers for it and no dice tried the -a to assign it and still no dice. I also have a v1 of the same nic that does work on my boxes and tried the v1 set of drivers and still nothing. Anybody have any luck with these nics? Cant find much of anything on the net on it either.
[18:03] <poopuser> hi again.sound problem : i got two sound cards - one is integrated and 2nd is some type of soundblaster.how can i determinate without looking into case model of 2nd card define it as only one that should be used and run 5.1 speakers?thx in advance
[19:02] <brandonban6> does anyone know of an equivalent to Belarc Advisor for linux?
[19:03] <TheSheep> brandonban6: we have no idea what that is
[19:03] <TheSheep> brandonban6: maybe you could be a little more descriptive...
[19:03] <vinnl> The website says "personal PC audit"
[19:03] <vinnl> Sounds like a typical Windows app :P
[19:03] <brandonban6> TheSheep, it is a pc audit tool for windows. It list everything out from hardware, to software license keys.
[19:04] <TheSheep> brandonban6: dpkg -l
[19:04] <TheSheep> brandonban6: and lshw
[19:04] <brandonban6> lol @ vinnl , actually I need it because i have a machine that won't boot into windows, so I am on it with a live cd trying to capture the CS3 license :(
[19:04] <vinnl> Haha
[19:05] <TheSheep> brandonban6: ah, so you want a linux software that would scan *windows* for licenses?
[19:05] <vinnl> No I don't suppose you'll be able to do that with an application, though perhaps you can find where Adobe stores the key
[19:06] <brandonban6> TheSheep,  yes, that is a much better way to phrase my question. I need something like magic jelly bean or belarc to run from live linux on a windows fs, and pull licenses
[19:06] <brandonban6> good thought TheSheep
[19:07] <brandonban6> sorry, i meant vinnl
[19:07] <vinnl> :)
[19:07] <TheSheep> brandonban6: maybe you could run those windows programs with wine...
[19:07] <TheSheep> but it's probably pretty hopeless
[19:08] <brandonban6> meh, hopeless just translates to significant challenge for the everyday geek.
[19:09] <TheSheep> sure, just reverse-engineer how Adobe did this, and you're home
[19:09] <vinnl> That's the spirt :)
[19:09] <brandonban6> I like the wine idea though, I'm using backtrack's live cd which comes with wine pre-configured.
[19:09] <brandonban6> lol......thanks.
[19:09] <TheSheep> brandonban6: you will probably have to tell those programs to check the system on disk, not wine, somehow
[19:10] <TheSheep> by hopeless I meant "might be not worth the effort"
[19:11] <vinnl> TheSheep, if BelArc can retrieve the license key then he'll probably be able to as well :)
[19:13] <gorgut> Hey folks, I'm trying to follow the wiki entry to enable PulseAudio and apprently it's written for gnome. What is the XFCE equivalent to "System -> Preferences -> Sound and make sure that Enable Software Sound Mixing is checked. Also, under the Sounds Tab, I set devices to Autodetect."
[19:16] <gorgut> Also, apparently, my Pulseaudio server is not running. /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start doesn't seem to work
[19:19] <Slor> hey folks - got another heardware upgrade question for ya....
[19:20] <Slor> If I add move my hard drives from the built-in (SLOW) IDE controller to an add-on Ultra speed card, will the system still be able to boot/mount properly when I turn it back on?
[19:21] <Slor> And perhaps I need to disable the first IDE controller in the system bios as well...
[19:22] <TheSheep> Slor: you might need to change the root= kernel option at boot
[19:23] <TheSheep> Slor: press esc when butting, select your kernel in the menu, press 'e' to edit the entry...
[19:23] <Slor> cool.  then I can change it in grub config once I find the right one.
[19:23] <TheSheep> yes
[19:23] <Slor> other volumes should mount according to their labels?
[19:24] <gorgut> bbl
[19:29] <TheSheep> Slor: aah, right, actually all volumes should mount according to UUIDs
[19:29] <TheSheep> Slor: so it should just work (tm)
[19:30] <Slor> even for root?
[19:30] <TheSheep> yes
[19:30] <Slor> I'm planning to shoot for a "just-work" combo video and ide controller upgrade tonight. :)
[19:30] <Slor> thanks
[19:48] <brandonban6> okay, how about this instead. Anyone have an idea how to edit a windows registry from Linux? (**looking at using ultimate bootloader)
[19:48] <sinbox> in xubuntu 8.04 when I do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it only asks a couple of questions about my keyboard then exits and I end up with crappy screen resolutions on ly available, any reason for that?
[19:49] <TheSheep> sinbox: xorg.conf is now empty
[19:49] <TheSheep> sinbox: it autodetects everything instead
[19:49] <sinbox> it obviously doesn't for me :)
[19:50] <sinbox> just to be sure I have a prehistoric "3D RAGE PRO" display adapter
[19:50] <sinbox> none of the threads I found in the forums actually had a fix for that, and I don't have a spare PCI slot to put in a decent graphic card , this is the onboard video chi[
[19:51] <Slor> Someone in here the other day told me support has been dropped for that card.
[19:51] <sinbox> can I still edit xorg.conf manually and force it's use?
[19:51] <Slor> I have one myself, which is why I remember. :)
[19:51] <sinbox> thanks for the good news
[19:51] <sinbox> :'(
[19:51] <Slor> lemme see if I hav ethe specifics in my log here.
[19:54] <Slor> sinbox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/133192/
[19:54] <sinbox> I'll take a peek thanks Slor
[19:57] <sinbox> that forced autodetection and not getting the details you need is a bit annoying really, wouldn't be a problem if I had a spare PCI slot but I don't
[19:57] <sinbox> might have to downgrade the machine to 7.10 :/
[19:58] <Slor> I'm still running 7.04 on my machine with that card, and it works fine.
[19:58] <TheSheep> look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what it is detecting
[19:59] <TheSheep> sinbox: yes, you can force graphics settings with xorg.conf
[19:59] <TheSheep> at lest for now
[19:59] <TheSheep> least
[20:00] <Slonkie> How do i turn on hidden files temp. in a folder?
[20:03] <dj_bushido> are you talking about thunar?
[20:03] <TheSheep> Slonkie: ctrl+h
[20:03] <dj_bushido> if so, in the View menu, there is a checkbox for "show hidden items"
[20:03] <Slonkie> Thank you TheSheep.
[20:03] <sinbox> tha is what I've been trying TheSheep reverting to the last "good" config now, and I'll set it manually as ever or make a script of sorts to run it on boot
[20:04] <TheSheep> sinbox: you don't have to run it on boot
[20:05] <TheSheep> sinbox: xubuntu won't modify it
[20:05] <Slonkie> anyone keen on thunderbird? I'd like to get my outlook 2007 emails imported into it, anyone know howto?
[20:06] <alienkid> Hi guys trying to get compiz and emerald set up on Xubuntu, but running into a problem with the shade button(probably stick button too but not that far yet) that in the theme I am trying to make all the buttons sould be on the same row but emerald seems to think that buttons like shade should be pushed up a little bit so here's my question:
[20:06] <alienkid> How come with emerald as the decorator the shade button is ALWAYS not in line(it's pushed up a little) with the rest of the buttons(I think stick is too)? How do I fix it?(without recompiling)
[20:07] <alienkid> I have tried asking in #compiz-fusion but no one replied.
[20:12] <sinbox> Slonkie not sure, have you tried installing thunderbird on the machine where outlook 2007 is to see if it lets you import them there, then copy that profile over
[20:13] <gorgut> lo folks
[20:14] <sinbox> TheSheep, xubuntu actually gets the screen res OK but I often boot into fluxbox and that gets it wrong so I have to adjust it with xrandr, guess I can just add a line in the fluxbox startup file to do that
[20:24] <alienkid> Anyone?
[20:30] <alienkid> no one eh. Well bye.
[20:34] <sinbox> /var/log/Xorg.0.log sure makes for mind numbing reading, it seems to load 2 modules from /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, not sure which I would have to set if make a forced xorg.conf now, or maybe just leave the device section alone and just adjust the monitor and screen section, that should do it
[21:51] <jarnos> How do you configure "gvfs-open ftp://hostname" open by e.g. Thunar?
[21:51] <jarnos> ..instead of firefox.