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matsubara#startmeeting15:00
MootBotMeeting started at 10:00. The chair is matsubara.15:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]15:00
matsubaraWelcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.15:00
matsubara[TOPIC] Roll Call15:00
MootBotNew Topic:  Roll Call15:00
rockstarme15:00
danilosme15:00
Ursinhame15:00
stubme15:01
gary_posterme15:01
gary_poster(for flacoste)15:01
matsubarahi gary_poster15:01
gary_posterhi :-)15:01
matsubaraherb,15:01
herbme15:01
matsubarabigjools, hi15:01
matsubarasinzui, hi15:02
sinzuime15:02
matsubaraok, apologies from the Bugs team, as they're sprinting15:02
matsubaraeveyrone else is here.15:02
bigjoolsme15:02
matsubara[TOPIC] Agenda15:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Agenda15:02
matsubara * Actions from last meeting15:02
matsubara * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:02
matsubara * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:02
matsubara * DBA report (stub)15:02
matsubara[TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting15:02
MootBotNew Topic:  * Actions from last meeting15:02
matsubara  * Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1159EA69 and coordinate a fix with rockstar15:03
matsubara   * https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/34541515:03
matsubara  * Ursinha to file a bug about OOPS-1166F631 and assign to intellectronica15:03
matsubara   * https://launchpad.net/bugs/34176615:03
matsubara  * sinzui to request CP for bugs 341085 and 34111715:03
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1166F63115:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 345415 in launchpad-bazaar "NoSuchDistroSeries OOPS in resolve_lp_path" [Undecided,New]15:03
ubottuBug 341085 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/341085 is private15:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 341766 in malone "AttributeError OOPS when receiving data from apport on +filebug" [Undecided,Won't fix]15:03
matsubaraok, Ursinha did her stuff15:03
* sinzui hangs head in shame15:03
matsubarasinzui, did you request those CPs?15:03
sinzuimatsubara: I will do that within the hour15:03
matsubarathanks sinzui15:03
matsubara[TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:04
MootBotNew Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:04
matsubaraUrsinha, go ahead15:04
Ursinhahave only one bug, sinzui: bug 34005815:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 340058 in launchpad-registry "Sometimes people/team pages don't load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34005815:04
UrsinhaI'm experiencing that sometimes, it's annoying15:04
Ursinhathe other bug I have is for bugs: [action] talk to allenap/bjornt about a bug marked as won't fix, but had another OOPS occurrence: bug 34176615:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 341766 in malone "AttributeError OOPS when receiving data from apport on +filebug" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34176615:06
sinzuiUrsinha: do you browse with maps on or off?15:06
matsubara[action] talk to allenap/bjornt about a bug marked as won't fix, but had another OOPS occurrence: bug 34176615:06
MootBotACTION received:  talk to allenap/bjornt about a bug marked as won't fix, but had another OOPS occurrence: bug 34176615:06
Ursinhasinzui: on15:06
Ursinhasinzui: but it's random15:06
sinzuiUrsinha: I have experienced that once when I discovered I had bad connectivity to google.15:06
Ursinhasometimes it happens15:06
Ursinhahmmm15:06
matsubaraI couldn't reproduce that one15:07
danilossinzui, Ursinha: that should be easy to test, if it means no connectivity to google15:07
sinzuiwell it was half a day. I wrote hide google maps to keep working15:07
matsubaraI wonder if it might be an firefox extension thing15:07
danilosjust adding 127.0.0.1 whatever-google.com to /etc/hosts could emulate it :)15:08
gary_posterheh, good idea :-)15:08
matsubaraand try it with a clean firefox profile15:08
Ursinhasinzui: I can do this testing and report on the bug15:09
matsubara[action] ursinha to debug 340058 and results back to the report15:09
MootBotACTION received:  ursinha to debug 340058 and results back to the report15:09
Ursinhaawesome15:09
Ursinhano critical bugs15:10
Ursinhaso that's it15:10
sinzuiUrsinha: thanks. please do. There is not enough information for me to say this is a bug15:10
matsubaraok, thanks Ursinha, sinzui15:10
matsubaramoving on15:10
matsubara[TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:10
MootBotNew Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:10
herb2009-03-13 - Cherry picked r7939 to the codehosting server as a fix for bug #260171.15:10
ubottuBug 260171 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/260171 is private15:10
herb2009-03-14 - The librarian box hung and didn't come back cleanly when power cycled. The librarian service was unavailable for about an hour and a half.15:10
herb2009-03-17 - Cherry picked r7942 to the scripts server as a fix for bug #337658.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337658 in rosetta "Disable success notifications for published uploads" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33765815:10
herbBug #156453 and bug #118625 continue to be a problem for us.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 156453 in loggerhead "production loggerhead branch leaks memory" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15645315:10
herbBug #45419 continues to be  a pain point for the LOSAs.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 118625 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse sometimes hangs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11862515:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 45419 in launchpad-foundations "Launchpad needs a way of easily flagging spam" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4541915:11
herbThere are currently 2 requested cherry picks pending approval/rejection, and have been that way for more than a week. Can we get those approved or rejected?15:11
danilosI'd also mention that staging is under a special regime, for anyone who hasn't seen my email15:11
herbdanilos: good point. thanks15:12
gary_posterIs it appropriate to ask now about the status of [rt.admin.canonical.com #32927] launchpad buildbot master in data center ?15:12
mthaddongary_poster: it's in the "setting up the EC2 account" stage15:12
gary_postermthaddon: cool, thanks15:12
herbgary_poster: you can ask. I don't have any input for you though.  I'll can look into it for you.15:12
danilosmatsubara: who's the soyuz QA contact?15:12
matsubarabigjools, ^15:12
* bigjools waves15:12
gary_posterherb: cool15:12
herbor mthaddon can tell you where we stand. :p15:12
gary_poster:-)15:13
danilosbigjools: the two cherrypick requests are from cprov, just fyi :)15:13
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matsubarabigjools, kiko/flacoste needs to approve those. can you sort it out with one of them?15:14
bigjoolsmatsubara: talk to me after the meeting about this please15:15
herbI think that's it from us unless there are questions.15:15
matsubara[action] bigjools to chase kiko or flacoste to approve CPs. matsubara to remind him about it :-)15:16
MootBotACTION received:  bigjools to chase kiko or flacoste to approve CPs. matsubara to remind him about it :-)15:16
matsubarabigjools, sure15:16
matsubararockstar, do you have any news about the LH thing?15:17
rockstarmatsubara, nothing definitive.15:17
matsubararockstar, still chasing the root cause?15:17
rockstarmatsubara, basically.  It's voodoo at this point.15:18
matsubara:-(15:18
matsubarawell, nothing much we can do here then...15:18
matsubaralet's move on. thanks herb and everyone else15:18
matsubara[TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)15:19
MootBotNew Topic:  * DBA report (stub)15:19
stubThe new slave is online and ticking away happily. Its lonely though - LOSAs should configure some of the app servers to talk to it soon. Batch jobs should consider making use of slave databases as we now have spare capacity there.15:19
stubIt will be interesting to see how the new 16 core box compares to the existing 8 core boxes. Not many people get to play with DB setups in the same league, so we are in somewhat uncharted territory. Previous anecdotal evidence had the twin core Opterons outperforming the quad core Xeons, but that was a while ago and it is a moving target.15:19
stubWe still need a real load balancer to distribute connections to the slaves. What we have is fine though until the batch jobs start making heavy use of the slaves.15:19
stuboot.15:19
matsubaraall right. questions for stub?15:20
matsubara thanks stub15:20
matsubaraThank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.15:21
matsubara#endmeeting15:21
MootBotMeeting finished at 10:21.15:21
Ursinhathanks matsubara and MootBot15:21
gary_posterthanks15:21
rockstarmatsubara, I had a point to bring up about the format.15:21
matsubararockstar, sorry, what format?15:21
rockstarOops Report / Critical Bugs should be condensed down to Critical bug status15:22
mthaddonrockstar: what do you mean by "it's voodoo at this point"? is it not reproducible locally (setup an instance with a large branch history and browse it)?15:22
danilosmatsubara: thanks15:22
rockstarOften, when OOPS reports are referenced, I haven't seen them before, and so I'm not prepared really to make a full comment.15:22
rockstarmthaddon, I mean "We shook this part of loggerhead, and fixed its performance.  Did it work?  Do I need to make a sacrifice to Apollo?"15:23
mthaddonrockstar: but presumably you're still able to reproduce the problem locally?15:23
matsubararockstar, right. I asked Ursinha to bring up only bugs instead oopses, that way we keep the discussion in the report15:24
rockstarmatsubara, also, we should know about critical bugs before the meeting, so that we have something to report.15:24
matsubaraand when we deal with newly filed bug reports re: unseen oopses, the meeting section would be a topic to remind you to investigate that report further15:24
rockstarmthaddon, nominally.  We can see the memory climbing, but we don't really get the "hang" which I'm presuming is a separate bug.15:25
rockstarmthaddon, the "hang" is probably specific to the way Launchpad serves branches, so we'll probably need to do some sleuthing there.15:25
mthaddonrockstar: so it continues to respond quickly for you? The "hang" is basically just "it takes more than 20 seconds to respond and our proxy connection times out15:25
mthaddons/out/out"/15:26
matsubararockstar, we kinda expect you to know about critical bugs under your teams responsibility15:26
rockstarmthaddon, but mwhudson has landed quite a few branches to make loggerhead load only what's used when it's used.15:26
mthaddonrockstar: I'll chat with mwhudson when he comes online later - I haven't asked him specifically about what he can and can't reproduce - thx15:27
matsubararockstar, so basically, what I'm saying is that the QA contact should check the critical bugs for their team before the meeting.15:27
rockstarmatsubara, except that this is the first thing I do in the morning.15:28
rockstar:/15:28
matsubararockstar, hmm that's a fair point.15:28
rockstarmatsubara, but basically, I think it should be treated more like an action15:28
rockstar"rockstar to report on critical bug 123456"15:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 123456 in xine-lib "podcast crashes amarok" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345615:29
matsubaraI'd suggest check those criticals the day before then15:29
rockstarubottu, sofa king we todd did15:29
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:29
matsubararockstar, and for new things that you're not prepared for, I think what you're suggesting is perfectly fine15:29
rockstarmatsubara, okay, great.15:29
matsubararockstar, thanks for the suggestions.15:30
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