[00:13] wubi: Agostino Russo * r101 trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): [00:13] wubi: * The full URL does not fit in the dialog, only show the filename [00:13] wubi: * Avoid division by zero when calculating bittorrent download progress [00:13] wubi: * Remove partially downloaded files before attempting a new download [00:13] wubi: * Cache ISO md5 calculations to avoid recalculating the md5 for the [00:13] wubi: same file (LP: 342250) [00:20] wubi: Agostino Russo * r102 trunk/debian/changelog: Rearranged changelog [01:01] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1067 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu26 [01:32] wubi: Agostino Russo * r103 trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Ensure that the local ISO path is stored upon successful download [01:33] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1068 ubuntu/ (build/config/i386/netboot.cfg debian/changelog): Adjust netboot/386 inclusion to avoid breaking lpia. [01:43] evand download manager should be ok in r103 both for bt and standard http [01:43] hence I have updated isolist.ini (only for ubuntu.iso) to point to the beta [01:48] wubi: Agostino Russo * r104 trunk/ (data/isolist.ini debian/changelog): Point isolist.ini to beta release (only for Ubuntu ISO) [02:06] wubi: Agostino Russo * r105 trunk/ (data/isolist.ini debian/changelog): [02:06] wubi: * Had the wrong URL for beta in isolist.ini (thanks Colin Watson!) [02:06] wubi: * Added beta URL for Kubuntu [02:06] wubi: * Fixed Kubuntu package name and URLs [05:16] good $time all [05:33] Hey NCommander [05:33] Hey TheMuso! [05:33] TheMuso, how goes it? [05:33] NCommander: not too bad thanks. Yourself? [05:33] TheMuso, beating on the installer on a64 and ARM [05:33] ah ok [05:34] anyway, I' [05:34] Reading the PS3 forums, seems the jaunty installer works [05:34] yeah [05:34] i'm about to run actually [05:34] TheMuso, cya later [07:06] hello [07:06] I need some help [07:08] Anyone around who can merge a d-i branch (to fix ia64; its been test built) [07:08] all r busy? [07:09] laxmi, just ask your question. [07:09] I could not compile srilm in Ubuntu 8.4 [07:09] language modeling toolkit [07:10] laxmi, wrong channel, this is for the devleopment of the Ubuntu installer, I recommend you try #ubuntu [07:11] ok === shtylman_ is now known as shtylman === evand_ is now known as evand [09:35] NCommander: would be happy to, but neither lp:~mcasadevall/debian-installer/ia64-fix nor lp:~mcasadevall/debian-installer/ia64-correction shows up as having been pushed to yet, and besides I don't know which one to merge :-) [09:36] cjwatson, I'm having issues pushing [09:36] Lots of them [09:36] Want a diff instead? [09:36] Morning guys I'm having an issue with unr. On the installer just before the partitioning section I get a little popup telling me that /dev/sdb is mount and needs to be unmounted. The options I have on the box are go back and continue. Clicking on continue loops back to the same dialogue and clicking on go back continues the install. This is a bit confusing to say the least. [09:37] NCommander: sure [09:38] cjwatson, its been happily test built :-) [09:40] cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/133527/ [09:41] davmor2: what's /dev/sdb* mounted to, and why can it not be unmounted (do you have a shell open in the mountpoint)? [09:42] cjwatson, I have no idea what's going on with sparc; I think something gone horribly horribly wrong with its kernel though ... [09:42] or it could be that the format has changed and it's no longer something you can validly un-gzip [09:42] The SPARC kernel hasn't been tested at all since the last ports rebase [09:43] ... probably hasn't been tested since Hardy. [09:43] come to that, i386 kernels aren't gunzippable [09:44] I don't think its something fixable without a SPARC box someone can restart infront of them, one to test the kernel, and one to figure out how to fix d-i [09:45] ok, applying ia64 patch, thanks for that [09:45] evand: it's the os it's netbook remix so it has jaunty unr on it [09:45] debian-installer: cjwatson * r1069 ubuntu/ (build/config/ia64.cfg debian/changelog): (log message trimmed) [09:45] debian-installer: * Fixed ia64 d-i builds by bumping image size [09:45] debian-installer: - The build failure "Disk Full" was caused by the last linux-ports [09:45] debian-installer: kernel upload due to the size of the kernel growing. d-i on ia64 [09:45] debian-installer: makes a large "floppy" disk image of a specified size (this was 16MB [09:45] debian-installer: before hand). The new kernel plus the RAMdisk came out to be 17.1MB, [09:45] debian-installer: causing the failure. The new size is 18MB to give the kernel some [09:46] evand: Let me go and get it and start the install over and I'll tell you exactly what is said [09:46] * NCommander wonders if he was a little too --verbose on the changelog [09:47] davmor2: I understand what it said, but there's a partition mounted that it cannot do anything about and I'm more curious about that [09:47] cjwatson, is it possible to cross-build d-i (i.e. debuild -B -aarmel?) [09:47] cjwatson, it looks like there is some support, but it failed to get build-deps ... [09:52] evand: /dev/sdb is the usb stick with unr on. The reason it can't unmount is the same reason you can't eject the cd while run live session I'm guessing [09:52] cjwatson, sorry, internet hiccuped, I didn't see your reply (if any) [09:52] NCommander: no [09:52] cjwatson, that's what I thought, thanks :-/ [09:52] davmor2: ok, so the only problem then is the labeling of the buttons I suppose. [09:52] I'm not sure whether it's a fundamental limitation or not. You'd certainly have to do some messy fiddling with apt [09:53] "go back" is what you want to press, it's just not clear given the text [09:53] evand: call go back ignore and it makes more sense [09:53] cjwatson, No doubt. if only for ports.u.c/*.archive.u.c [09:54] I'd really prefer it say "yes" and "no". [09:54] "go back and ignore" implies that you're going back a step [09:54] evand: then you need to word the text in the box as a question [09:54] when you're actually just continuing [09:54] it is... [09:55] The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions: [09:55] . [09:55] ${DISKS} [09:55] . [09:55] Do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks [09:55] before continuing? If not, the installation will continue and the disks will [09:55] not be available as installation targets. [09:55] evand: Yes sorry it's me read the last line and not the one before it :) [09:56] mcasadevall: no, I didn't mean that, I meant for cross-installation of packages [09:57] cjwatson, oh ... yeah ... that would be an issue :-/ [09:57] * mcasadevall is just getting his feet wet with d-i hacking [09:57] probably a bit screwed here though, as I might be killed for uploading with new strings to be translated if I fix this. [09:57] evand: "go back" should imply "go back to the partitioner", no? [09:58] cjwatson: sure, though either way it's not appropriate here. [10:02] and unfortunately there isn't an existing string in ubiquity that is, as far as I can tell. :/ [10:05] evand: from the behaviour davmor2 described above, shouldn't the buttons just be reversed? [10:05] if continue goes back and go back continues ... [10:05] oh, well, continue retries I suppose [10:05] indeed [10:05] can't you get Yes and No from GTK? [10:06] ah, duh. [10:06] thanks [10:06] debian/imported-po/Makefile has runes for getting GTK translations into debconf [10:06] you just need to edit ubiquity.templates-imported appropriately [10:07] we should refresh those translations anyway [10:09] ok === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke [10:28] evand: can you look at bug 325958? [10:28] Launchpad bug 325958 in ubiquity "Jaunty Alpha 4: Ubiquity windows does not fit on 1024x600 screen" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325958 [10:30] will do [10:42] hrm, msgmerge seems to be failing me here. [10:42] * evand digs [10:53] ah, "Yes" is marked fuzzy. [10:57] cjwatson: any objection to me removing --no-fuzzy from the arguments to msgattrib in imported-po/Makefile? [10:57] A few other imported translations have also been marked fuzzy. [10:57] evand: I don't see the point. If it's fuzzy in GTK, we don't want it [10:58] hrm, ok [10:58] the msgid for Yes in GTK is actually "_Yes" [10:58] you aren't running into that, are you? [10:58] likewise "_No" [10:59] (translations marked fuzzy aren't used, anyway) [11:17] hi [11:17] is is possible to get the log from the debian installer to an other host? [11:17] i mean the things which are displayed during the installation on the F4 terminal [11:18] juliux: yes, two ways [11:18] juliux: either go back to the main menu and select "save debug logs", from which you have various options including turning the installer into a temporary web server [11:18] juliux: or switch to alt-f2, enter 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb', and then you can use scp [11:19] thxs [11:19] but it isn't possible to do that via a boot option or with a preseed.cfg? [11:19] no [11:19] i want to do that automaticly [11:19] well, you could do it in a preseed/late_command [11:20] assuming you can deal with scp authentication somehow [11:20] ok [11:20] cjwatson: I don't think so. This is what I'm starting with: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133565/ [11:20] 'd-i anna/choose_modules multiselect openssh-client-udeb' will get scp installed early on, and then you can use it from late_command [11:21] evand: ok, not seeing why that would be fuzzy. All languages or just some? [11:23] most of the "_Yes" strings are marked as fuzzy in GTK. [11:23] at least from what I can tell looking at the gtk source package using grep -B 1 "_Yes" po/* [11:24] apologies for not fully understanding fuzzy before, I'm still slowly trying to wrap my head around gettext. [11:29] looks like crap translations; check that it's ok in de and fr [11:31] Unfortunately not: [11:31] evan@bunny:/tmp/gtk+2.0-2.16.0/po$ grep -B 1 _Yes {de,fr}.po [11:31] de.po-#, fuzzy [11:31] de.po:msgid "_Yes" [11:31] -- [11:31] fr.po-#, fuzzy [11:31] fr.po:msgid "_Yes" [11:38] * cjwatson tries [11:39] but, um, that doesn't match the gtk+2.0 tree I have here [11:39] if nothing else, mine has msgctxt lines too [11:39] hrm. [11:39] #: gtk/gtkstock.c:409 [11:39] msgctxt "Stock label" [11:39] msgid "_Yes" [11:39] msgstr "_Ja" [11:40] though it does seem to show up as fuzzy here, hmm [11:40] maybe it's precisely due to the contexts [11:47] yeah, it's the lack of msgctxt lines in the .pot generated by po-debconf [11:48] * cjwatson pokes [11:56] got it, I think [11:57] nice [11:57] * mcasadevall has the start of the iMX51 d-i port :-) [11:58] I'm in a good mood now === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [12:02] evand: a number of translations do disappear, though - I think they haven't been brought up to date for the new context system [12:03] I don't know if you are working on bug 325958, but I think I understand why this happens, the timezone widget and the partition widget are requesting a minimum size [12:03] Launchpad bug 325958 in ubiquity "Jaunty Alpha 4: Ubiquity windows does not fit on 1024x600 screen" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325958 [12:05] and the body of all other views is using the same size as a minimum, this also explains why the border around the first step is bigger than 16px [12:05] ah, I bet the timezone widget is requesting too large a minimum size. I was concerned with losing accuracy for the aspect ratio by making it too small (as we're dealing with a fair number of problems with accurate representation on the map), but if I have to change it, so be it [12:05] evand: we've lost some translations due to that, but no worse than GTK itself, AFAICT; we'll need to remember to update from 2.16.1 when it's released [12:05] ubiquity: cjwatson * r3115 ubiquity/ (73 files in 3 dirs): [12:05] ubiquity: Update for new message context system in GTK+ 2.15.1, and update [12:05] ubiquity: imported translations from gtk+2.0 2.16.0-1ubuntu2. [12:06] cjwatson: ok, will do. Thanks a bunch for your help with that. [12:06] note moderately foul hack in debian/imported-po/add-contexts [12:13] heh, indeed [12:28] ever so slightly concerned about a separate home option being in this list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleSoC2009/Ideas [12:28] wasn't the consensus that this is a bad idea as we cannot make a reasonable guess [12:29] sigh, it's impossible to reject ideas [12:29] they just keep coming back [12:30] I'll talk to jorge [12:30] ok [12:30] thanks [12:37] ubiquity: evand * r3116 ubiquity/ (45 files in 3 dirs): Make the partman/unmount_active dialog a yes or no question. [12:59] cjwatson, I'm working on adding imx51 to d-i, but I ran into a snag. WHile I can build netboot initramfs's, I can't build cdrom ones. I'm going to hazard a guess and say armel lacks the necessary code to do it (arm has it). Any ideas on how to extend d-i to build an armel cdrom image? [13:00] should be just like the other architectures. what's the failure? [13:00] cjwatson, make build_imx51_cdrom does nothing. I see it in the list of targets however. [13:00] I mean, you need to write a configuration file obviously [13:01] have a look at other cdrom.cfg files [13:01] and see build/README to understand the build system [13:01] Oh [13:01] Thanks [13:02] No, I'm an idiot, I forgot to add a cdrom.cfg file :-/ [13:16] ubiquity: evand * r3117 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): Sort the list of regions on the timezone page (LP: #344334). [14:43] evand: i just read your log from openweek regarding to ubuntu unattended installation and howto create a pressed.cfg, is there some more to read? perhaps some troubleshooting pages? [14:45] juliux: There's the installation guide (apt-get install installation-guide-i386; firefox /usr/share/doc/installation-guide-i386/en/index.html) [14:45] what problem are you having? [14:46] if i restart my installed system and press any key on my keyboard i only get some cryptic symbols [14:46] so i am unabled to log in [14:46] everything else is working well atm [14:47] I bet I know [14:47] boot in rescue mode and look in /etc/default/console-setup [14:47] also, show us your preseed file, whose keyboard configuration I bet is wrong :-) [14:47] mom [14:47] evand: kubuntu is still using grey for new system [14:48] davmor2: ok [14:48] see also bug 328078 [14:48] Launchpad bug 328078 in console-setup "surprising keyboard choice if not preseeded" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328078 [14:48] shtylman: ^ Would you mind taking a look at that? [14:48] cjwatson: http://ubuntu.juliux.de/preseed.cfg that is my preseed.cfg [14:48] cjwatson: i get some errors during the installtion regarding to console-setup [14:48] juliux: what is your kernel command line? [14:49] evand: I know it's not the end of the world but it still looks wrong :) [14:49] sure [14:49] http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394511/ [14:49] annoying noise but not relevant [14:49] cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394512/ [14:50] juliux: seems to be cut off at "console-" [14:50] just paste the "append" line here [14:51] append tasks=standard vga=normal pkgsel/language-pack-patterns= pkgsel/install-language-support=false initrd=ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz locale=en_GB console-setup/layoutcode=en_GB netcfg/wireless_wep= netcfg/choose_interface=eth1 netcfg/get_hostname=ubuntu preseed/url=http://172.23.43.2/preseed.cfg -- [14:51] that's not a valid layoutcode [14:51] en_GB is a locale not a keyboard layout [14:51] console-setup/layoutcode=gb [14:51] ahh [14:52] so for germany it would be just de? [14:52] ideally console-setup would throw a visible error about this ... [14:52] right [14:52] (as in your preseed file) [14:52] it's the same as the X keyboard layout names [14:53] thxs [14:53] i will give it a try [14:57] * mcasadevall sighs [14:57] Is the cdrom d-i type supposed to generate a ramdisk? [15:01] cjwatson: thxs, that was my mistake [15:06] mcasadevall: yes [15:07] * mcasadevall found that out, it failed to build because I'm an idiot :-) [15:07] now I need to find the one thing I never have in my apartment; a blank CD ... [15:22] evand: will do [15:24] thanks [15:45] evand: cjwatson thank you very much, it is working well now [15:45] excellent [15:45] i will write something in german about it;) [15:52] evand: you know the yes no for the partition unmount earlier can the same be done for password to weak dialogue? [15:53] davmor2: I don't think it would make sense in that context [15:53] as it's not a yes or no question [15:53] oh, I guess it sort of is, given the title [15:53] evand: true I just re-read the question :) [15:53] but I'm still not convinced [15:53] ok [15:55] evand: I think the trouble is when your used to seeing it you abbreviate what it says rather than actually reading it :) So the dialogue becomes use weak password :) [15:57] so regarding the ubiquity window being 546px tall, it's being caused by the user setup page [15:57] which we discussed at the sprint, but it had since fallen out of my head [15:57] unfortunately I don't think there's much we can do there [15:57] we're already using up most of the space [15:58] other than the obvious packing it in a scrolled window [15:58] davmor2: heh [15:59] or perhaps some slight violations of the HIG [15:59] that wont bring us anywhere near 400px though [16:00] err nevermind on that last point, I now see that the bug report says 600px [16:05] I've updated the bug with my thoughts [16:12] cjwatson: evand: has the live system gone back a few days or something? Only ubiquity just crashed on 64live with the NameError in remove_extra that I thought got fixed? [16:17] Oh yes boat loads of updates [16:17] :) [16:23] davmor2: what's the output of ubiquity --version? [16:23] 1.11.17 [16:24] there is a ubiquity update in the repos along with 256mb of others [16:25] I can't think of anything that would cause the livefs to ever go backwards [16:27] cjwatson: it might not of I've not tested 64bit for a few days so the fix is in 32bit. But looking at the manifest 64bit is 16th and 32bit is the 17th [16:28] davmor2: are you sure you're not accidentally using the wrong CD? [16:28] evand: I've only got single images of each that are rsynced daily [16:28] maybe it's just a livefs build failure [16:28] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/ [16:29] brasero: Conflicts: nautilus-cd-burner but 2.24.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [16:30] cjwatson: yes 32bit 17th 64bit 16th [16:30] libbrasero-media0: Conflicts: nautilus-cd-burner but 2.24.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [16:32] :( [16:33] hey cjwatson, when you get a few minutes, I have a couple of d-i questions I'd like to ask. I've managed to get the cdrom image to start. But there is no subarchitecture defined according to log causing the installation to fail [16:33] mcasadevall: I imagine libdebian-installer needs to be educated [16:33] Oh fun. [16:34] Secondly, how does cdrom-detector probe for the CD-ROM drive, it failed to detect it; I had to manually mount my pendisk /dev/cdrom [16:34] see list-devices in debian-installer-utils, which monkeys about in /sys/block [16:35] davmor2: diagnosed on #ubuntu-devel, seb128 said he'll fix it [16:35] /sys/block? [16:35] Oh [16:36] * mcasadevall bets that missing from the kernel [16:37] cjwatson: Sweet! any chance of a re-spin once it's fixed or will this be a test it tomorrow issue? [16:38] davmor2: test it tomorrow at this point I think [16:38] mcasadevall: *blink* really? [16:38] that's a lame kernel you've got there :) [16:38] cjwatson: np's [16:39] cjwatson, a lot of things you'd except were missing in version one [16:39] Like USB support compiled in on an SoC with only USB ports to access HIDs :-) [16:39] er, compiled as a module [16:40] right, but sysfs is pretty vital nowadays to EVERYTHING [16:42] cjwatson, no, I think its just /sys/block thats MIA, but I'll have a more indepth look [16:42] ... *sighs* [16:42] I can't use a stacked branch it seems ... [16:42] bzr: ERROR: RemoteRepository(bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ecjwatson/debian-installer/main/.bzr/) [16:42] is not compatible with [16:42] KnitPackRepository('bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Emcasadevall/debian-installer/imx51-support/.bzr/repository/') [16:42] :-P [16:43] the d-i branch is awkward due to bzr-svn I'm afraid [16:43] not very much I can do about that in practical terms until they unify the formats [16:43] * mcasadevall never had an issue with stacked branches and bzr-svn [16:44] you might be able to use 'bzr init-repo --1.6.1-rich-root' or something [16:44] cjwatson, this repo was made bzr pull . [16:44] well, its pushing [16:44] oh, sorry, don't know. ask #bzr? [16:44] Probably finish in a week. [17:43] cjwatson, so seemingly the reason stacking does not work with d-i is because the development focus is on the SVN branch. Changing the focus to the ~ubuntu-core-dev/debian-installer/ubuntu would fix the stacking, ergo, pushes would take seconds vs. hours [17:44] mm, right, but that would be wrong since it isn't the upstream development branch [17:44] can't you nominate a stacking branch rather than using the default? [17:44] not when using launchpad. [17:44] I think this is an LP bug [17:44] it should be possible to have more than one level of stacking [17:45] cjwatson, its an LP bug, bazaar supports this just file. [17:45] I don't want to declare the Ubuntu branch to be lp:debian-installer - it simply isn't [17:45] No, that I get [17:45] so sorry, it'll just have to take time :( or you can send patches [17:45] what's the bzr equivelent of git format-patches? [17:45] :-) [17:45] bzr send [17:45] * mcasadevall has an incredibly pathetic upstream pipe [17:46] Like, it makes the Berlin sprint look fast in comparsion ... [17:47] I have 448kbps up, on paper. In practice I don't think I get that [17:47] (kilobits, not kilobytes) [17:47] You win. [17:47] 368kilobits [17:47] still, same order [17:47] cjwatson, yeah, but your physically closer to the DC :-) === robbiew1 is now known as robbiew === mpt_ is now known as mpt === fader|lunch is now known as fader [21:36] casper: TheMuso * r595 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [21:36] casper: * scripts/casper-bottom/30accessibility && ubiquity-hooks/30accessibility: [21:36] casper: - When the blindness accessibility profile is chosen, create the .orca [21:36] casper: directory in the live user's home directory. This seems to allow orca [21:36] casper: to properly reload and use settings in the live session without needing [21:36] casper: to be restarted. This is only needed for the blindness profile, due to [21:36] casper: the other profiles that use orca already creating the .orca directory. [21:37] casper: TheMuso * r596 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.165