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| persia | RIght. Time for the Mobile Meeting. | 11:59 |
| * NCommander waves | 12:00 | |
| persia | #startmeeting | 12:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 07:00. The chair is persia. | 12:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 12:00 |
| persia | Agenda is [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090319 | 12:00 |
| persia | [topic] persia to investigate 338148 | 12:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: persia to investigate 338148 | 12:01 |
| persia | At the last meeting we thought this was a simple merge. It's more than that. I've been looking at it, but don't have all the bits in my head yet. I'll need it carried over. | 12:01 |
| persia | [topic] NCommander to post dmesg for jacx10 to 280669 | 12:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to post dmesg for jacx10 to 280669 | 12:01 |
| NCommander | please carry over, been working all week on Redboot | 12:02 |
| persia | [topic] lool to spec ec2-package-builder for jaunty+1 | 12:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: lool to spec ec2-package-builder for jaunty+1 | 12:02 |
| persia | lool ? | 12:03 |
| lool | No progress | 12:04 |
| persia | [topic] ogra to trim selection-of-arm-images to a smaller scope | 12:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ogra to trim selection-of-arm-images to a smaller scope | 12:04 |
| ogra | carry over | 12:05 |
| ogra | as well as the next one | 12:05 |
| ogra | babbage kernel issues kept me busy | 12:05 |
| persia | Right. That takes us to roadmap. | 12:05 |
| persia | [topic] offline-installer | 12:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: offline-installer | 12:05 |
| ogra | same status | 12:05 |
| persia | [topic] mobile-setup-wizard | 12:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-setup-wizard | 12:06 |
| persia | no progress | 12:06 |
| persia | [topic] arm-library-optimisation | 12:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: arm-library-optimisation | 12:06 |
| persia | lool, ? | 12:07 |
| lool | Progress but need to file FFE and blocked by betafreeze now | 12:08 |
| lool | move to next item please | 12:09 |
| persia | [topic] pouslbo-packaging | 12:09 |
| MootBot | New Topic: pouslbo-packaging | 12:09 |
| persia | I still need to document stuff: the plan is changing a bit, but it's still not working well enough to use properly. | 12:09 |
| ogra | WTF | 12:10 |
| persia | ogra, ? | 12:10 |
| ogra | why is offline-installer a drupal project now ? | 12:10 |
| persia | Because of a launchpad bug. | 12:10 |
| ogra | ah | 12:10 |
| persia | Just ignore that for the moment :) | 12:10 |
| persia | Moving on... | 12:10 |
| ogra | hard if you want to look at your specs :P | 12:10 |
| persia | Yes. I expect we can get manual resolution of the outstanding ones in the next couple weeks. | 12:11 |
| persia | [topic] general-resolution-for-touchscreen-handling | 12:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: general-resolution-for-touchscreen-handling | 12:11 |
| ogra | no progress | 12:11 |
| persia | [topic] arm-softboot-loader | 12:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: arm-softboot-loader | 12:11 |
| NCommander | No progress | 12:11 |
| persia | [topic] selection-of-arm-images | 12:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: selection-of-arm-images | 12:11 |
| lool | NCommander: You're looking into kexec soon though | 12:12 |
| ogra | slow progress, started the automatic image builder script for the babbage image today | 12:12 |
| ogra | but currently blocked on broken kernel | 12:12 |
| NCommander | lool, true. | 12:12 |
| persia | [topic] lpia-versus-i386 | 12:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: lpia-versus-i386 | 12:13 |
| lool | nothing new to reprot | 12:13 |
| persia | [topic] mobile-spec-cleanup | 12:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-spec-cleanup | 12:13 |
| persia | status unchanged | 12:13 |
| persia | [topic] bug #299847 | 12:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: bug #299847 | 12:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 299847 in linux "Shared memory operations on very fast ARM hardware suffer from non-atomic operations and race conditions." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/299847 | 12:13 |
| NCommander | No progress | 12:13 |
| persia | [topic] bug #328167 | 12:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: bug #328167 | 12:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 328167 in gnome-keyring "gnome-keyring-daemon eating 100% CPU at login in Jaunty" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328167 | 12:14 |
| ogra | i need to rebuild from source onm upstream request | 12:14 |
| ogra | but need my babbage for other stuff atm | 12:14 |
| persia | ogra, Do you want an action item for that, or is roadmap sufficient? | 12:14 |
| ogra | will do that once i have my hands off the image builder scripts | 12:15 |
| ogra | sure, make it an action item | 12:15 |
| persia | [action] ogra to rebuild gnome-keyring-daemon to troubleshoot 328167 | 12:15 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ogra to rebuild gnome-keyring-daemon to troubleshoot 328167 | 12:15 |
| persia | [topic] bug #280669 | 12:15 |
| MootBot | New Topic: bug #280669 | 12:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 280669 in linux "DMA mode and driver jax10" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280669 | 12:15 |
| NCommander | No progress. | 12:16 |
| persia | [topic] bug #336770 | 12:16 |
| MootBot | New Topic: bug #336770 | 12:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 336770 in linux "Problems Installing Jaunty On NSLU2" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/336770 | 12:16 |
| * persia removes it from the roadmap | 12:16 | |
| ogra | reload your wikipage :P | 12:16 |
| lool | Let's drop that one? | 12:16 |
| ogra | its gone already | 12:17 |
| persia | ogra, I reload before nearly every topic, and I skipped once, and you got me :) | 12:17 |
| * ogra removed it at the start of the meeting | 12:17 | |
| persia | [topic] bug #338148 | 12:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: bug #338148 | 12:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 338148 in vnc4 "Needs new version from Debian: fails to build with removal of mesa-swx11-source" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338148 | 12:17 |
| ogra | fix your proxy :) | 12:17 |
| persia | I've already got a carried over action item on it: needs more merge effort (different versions). | 12:17 |
| persia | [topic] NSLU2 enablement | 12:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NSLU2 enablement | 12:17 |
| ogra | works :) | 12:18 |
| ogra | could surely need some extra love | 12:18 |
| ogra | like tasksel adjustments and the like | 12:18 |
| persia | Do you still want a roadmap item? Will more discussion or tracking help? | 12:18 |
| ogra | but really not in scope atm | 12:18 |
| ogra | well, if we see regressions i could report on it | 12:18 |
| persia | OK. Let's leave it then. | 12:18 |
| persia | [topic] Babbage enablement | 12:19 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Babbage enablement | 12:19 |
| ogra | so leave it there, i can easily nod it off every meeting | 12:19 |
| NCommander | RedBoot for Babbage board has been packaged | 12:19 |
| ogra | amit is working on the merged kernel configs | 12:19 |
| NCommander | Its sitting in universe, pending MIRs | 12:19 |
| ogra | redboot and friends are packaged by NCommander | 12:19 |
| NCommander | debian-installer-imx51-netboot has just been successfully started. | 12:19 |
| ogra | NCommander, hey, my duty ! | 12:19 |
| NCommander | ogra, the installer or the news? | 12:19 |
| ogra | (leave the reporting to me and just add stuff i miss) | 12:20 |
| * NCommander goes mute | 12:20 | |
| ogra | else it gets to confusing | 12:20 |
| ogra | lool is working on the fconfig scripts | 12:20 |
| lool | we miss installer, either d-i or ubiquity, and that implies a good scenario for install still; some candidates have been discussed | 12:20 |
| ogra | i am working on the autobuild scripts atm | 12:20 |
| lool | Depending on what works and on the final scenario, we need differing bits | 12:20 |
| ogra | we're currently hit hard by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/344370/ | 12:21 |
| lool | flash-kernel integration is likely to be needed if we can't get a kexec solution to work | 12:21 |
| persia | What support do we need in d-i outside the kernel? | 12:21 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 344370 in linux "imx51 AppArmor oops during bootup" [Medium,In progress] | 12:21 |
| persia | Is it just kernel selection, or is something else broken? | 12:21 |
| ogra | persia, a bootloader udeb or some such | 12:21 |
| lool | persia: We don't build any netboot image for babbage ATM, and I would think a SD image would be useful | 12:21 |
| NCommander | ogra, we have a redboot udeb | 12:21 |
| lool | We do? | 12:21 |
| lool | Cool | 12:21 |
| NCommander | Yeah, I figured you might want it so I saved some work and did it all in one go | 12:22 |
| ogra | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/344955 sopped me form working forward the last three days | 12:22 |
| NCommander | (much to the confusion of the poor REVU reviewers) | 12:22 |
| ogra | but its fixed now | 12:22 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/344955/+text) | 12:22 |
| persia | OK, so the redboot udeb can give us an alternate image, and we can make an SD live image. | 12:22 |
| lool | Then you also need some d-i logic for the redboot udeb, currently it only provides files | 12:22 |
| ogra | right, we need lools scripts | 12:22 |
| lool | IOW we need a story for the d-i install as well | 12:22 |
| NCommander | lool, it needs to be in the udeb build-deps, and then have the arch-image target glue all together, and get out a bin blob like NSLU2 | 12:22 |
| ogra | thats silly | 12:23 |
| ogra | lets just do a real alternate image | 12:23 |
| ogra | instead of netboot | 12:23 |
| lool | ogra: netboot is trivial and is useful for people using various scripts | 12:23 |
| NCommander | ogra, sure, I can add a cdrom target easily, netboot images are easy to do | 12:23 |
| lool | We don't need it, but it would be the first thing I'd add | 12:23 |
| NCommander | I already booted the imx51 netboot initrd | 12:23 |
| persia | If we have alternate, netboot isn't significantly more work. | 12:23 |
| * NCommander hasn't run the install yet. | 12:23 | |
| ogra | persia, other way round | 12:24 |
| persia | ogra, either way :) | 12:24 |
| ogra | netboot is easier but not a good fallback if we fail live | 12:24 |
| persia | Right. | 12:24 |
| ogra | so i'D like to se the focus on alternate | 12:24 |
| persia | I don't think live is an issue, as long as we pick the right kernel. | 12:24 |
| NCommander | ogra, netboot is three lines of code to get a initrd | 12:24 |
| ogra | in cae we hit issues with ubiquity we didnt foresee | 12:24 |
| persia | In many ways, live is easier to do than alternate, because not as much of d-i is involved. | 12:24 |
| ogra | but live install isnt yet | 12:25 |
| lool | Let's not debate netboot, it's not the target and will be done if anybody touches d-i because it's trivial | 12:25 |
| ogra | its easy up to the package install | 12:25 |
| ogra | but the final step to make the install bootable only exists theoretically yet | 12:25 |
| ogra | and we might hit issues we didnt expect | 12:25 |
| lool | My main concerns for *either* install is a) getting partitioning right and b) installing redboot and flash-kernel properly if needs be | 12:26 |
| ogra | so i'd like an alternate image as a safety net | 12:26 |
| persia | OK, so essentially we need the glue that installs the bootloader somewhere (which isn't grub)? | 12:26 |
| ogra | our target is to have a milestoneable image | 12:26 |
| persia | Right. | 12:26 |
| ogra | which netboot isnt (and cant be) | 12:26 |
| lool | ogra: Isn't that what we released for A5/verstaile? | 12:27 |
| ogra | so lets leave netboot as a nice to have | 12:27 |
| ogra | lool, netboot ? | 12:27 |
| ogra | ye | 12:27 |
| ogra | s | 12:27 |
| lool | yes | 12:27 |
| lool | It's at least something | 12:27 |
| ogra | but was considered not sufficientr | 12:27 |
| ogra | management request was a fixed milestoneable image | 12:27 |
| ogra | no netboot | 12:27 |
| lool | for release | 12:28 |
| ogra | which is why i'd like to see NCommander working on a,ternate instead of netboot | 12:28 |
| ogra | so we have a fallback in case ubiquity fails | 12:28 |
| NCommander | ogra, netboot already exists | 12:28 |
| lool | let's forget netboot | 12:28 |
| ogra | right | 12:28 |
| NCommander | ogra, just so I can fix the partitioning and flash-kernel, and then just drop the cdrom bits in. | 12:28 |
| * NCommander doesn't want to write a 700MB image just to test the installer. | 12:28 | |
| ogra | but thats what we're supposed to have | 12:29 |
| NCommander | ogra, let me rephrase | 12:29 |
| NCommander | While we're developing the installer variant | 12:29 |
| persia | NCommander, The trick is to just replace bits in the 700MB image with each iteration of installer work. I'd be happy to help you with workflow. | 12:29 |
| ogra | you will need significant cjhanges tro the cdrom detection code | 12:29 |
| ogra | to work from SD | 12:29 |
| NCommander | ogra, we do? | 12:29 |
| NCommander | Oh | 12:29 |
| NCommander | No, we can use the cf variant | 12:29 |
| ogra | so please test with a real d-i image | 12:29 |
| ogra | if you can do that, thats fine, but please test it | 12:30 |
| NCommander | ogra, to build alternates, I need access to cdimage.u.c | 12:30 |
| NCommander | I can't build a full image on 127.0.0.1 with just the d-i package unless I'm mistaken. | 12:30 |
| persia | NCommander, No you don't. After the meeting, let's chat about image construction. | 12:30 |
| NCommander | fair enough. | 12:30 |
| persia | [action] persia & NCommander to review workflow for testing alternate images. | 12:30 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: persia & NCommander to review workflow for testing alternate images. | 12:30 |
| persia | Anything else for Babbage enablement? | 12:31 |
| ogra | NCommander, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily/current/ | 12:31 |
| ogra | there are alternate images | 12:31 |
| ogra | use and modify them | 12:31 |
| persia | OK. Moving on then. | 12:31 |
| persia | [topic] ARM benchmarking | 12:31 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ARM benchmarking | 12:31 |
| lool | I think no progress | 12:32 |
| ogra | we anyway only need it as a base for KK | 12:32 |
| persia | NCommander, ? | 12:32 |
| ogra | so its not milestone critical or something | 12:32 |
| NCommander | sorry, no progress (no ARMv7 build) | 12:32 |
| persia | OK. That concludes roadmap review. | 12:32 |
| ogra | just has to be there at release | 12:32 |
| persia | We've one topic on the agenda that's been pending | 12:33 |
| persia | [topic] Discuss moving meeting time to be more convenient for those in UTC-5 through UTC-8 | 12:33 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Discuss moving meeting time to be more convenient for those in UTC-5 through UTC-8 | 12:33 |
| ogra | but still not all team members | 12:33 |
| persia | No, but those absent fall into the range that's inconvenient. | 12:33 |
| ogra | same prob as last week | 12:33 |
| GrueMaster | I thoughtthe idea was to wait for DST world wide. | 12:33 |
| GrueMaster | Then shift. | 12:33 |
| lool | I don't want to discuss this without david anyway | 12:33 |
| persia | Given that the previous discussions were talking about times that would be inconvenient for all of those present, let's find the least inconvenient one. | 12:33 |
| persia | OK. We'll carry it over another week then, and the next meeting will be at this time. | 12:34 |
| persia | Anyone have any last minute additions to the agenda? | 12:34 |
| GrueMaster | Action Reports are due NOW. | 12:34 |
| NCommander | GrueMaster, you got mine. | 12:35 |
| lool | GrueMaster: you're good! | 12:35 |
| ogra | heh | 12:35 |
| lool | Ok, /me lunch & | 12:35 |
| persia | OK. Meeting adjouned then. Thanks everyone. | 12:36 |
| persia | #endmeeting | 12:36 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 07:36. | 12:36 |
| * persia peers about | 13:54 | |
| persia | So, who's here for the Java meeting? | 14:01 |
| ttx | \o/ | 14:01 |
| persia | Right. We need a bigger team :) | 14:01 |
| persia | Nothing new on the agenda. | 14:02 |
| persia | robilad isn't here | 14:02 |
| ttx | come on everyone, java is fun ! Or not. | 14:02 |
| persia | slytherin isn't here | 14:02 |
| persia | I didn't file the SRU for sun-java5 yet, so we can't drop it. | 14:02 |
| persia | ttx, Any progress on Java-Contents? | 14:02 |
| ttx | yes, ! | 14:02 |
| ttx | So I finished the script and ran it through intrepid | 14:03 |
| ttx | documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/JavaContents | 14:03 |
| ttx | I will add a few examples to the docs, run it through current Jaunty | 14:03 |
| ttx | but I already accpt feedback / bugs in the script | 14:04 |
| persia | Cool! | 14:04 |
| persia | Could you add a link to that on the Roadmap? | 14:04 |
| ttx | I might create a project in LP rather than just a +junk branch | 14:04 |
| ttx | so that bugs can be filed against it | 14:04 |
| ttx | sure, i'll link it from the roadmap and the knowledge base pages | 14:05 |
| ttx | it's interesting to see unneeded code duplication as well | 14:05 |
| ttx | roxen4 in the example | 14:05 |
| ttx | anyway, that's a good tool for every Java packager | 14:06 |
| ttx | I know I've been missing something like that a lot during this cycle. | 14:06 |
| persia | It's also a good tool to use to clean up. | 14:07 |
| persia | We likely don't need all of that: I'd hope we could drop it from both roxen and glassfish in your example. | 14:07 |
| persia | I'm sure we have *many* more. | 14:07 |
| ttx | oh yes, I picked javax.servlet by accident. | 14:07 |
| ttx | ludovicc: welcome, we were talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/JavaContents | 14:09 |
| persia | Dunno if it needs an LP project. Might make sense to add it to one of the developer tools packages. | 14:09 |
| persia | Something like ubuntu-dev-tools or javahelper. | 14:09 |
| ttx | ludovicc: a mapping file that shows package/jar/classes contents in a release | 14:09 |
| ttx | persia: i'll try to find a good match | 14:09 |
| ttx | there isn't much point in regenerating it yourself though. takes time | 14:10 |
| ttx | there are ~800 packages containing jar files. | 14:10 |
| ttx | and more coming up :) | 14:11 |
| ludovicc | i'm not familiar with JavaContents, but it looks like it may duplicate the information you can get from Maven descriptors | 14:11 |
| persia | I wonder if it's worth asking the archive-admins to add it to the scripts they run against the archive on a scheduled basis, and just referencing it. | 14:11 |
| persia | ludovicc, It would, except that it also covers stuff that isn't maven. | 14:12 |
| ttx | persia: once it's debugged, might make sense, yes | 14:12 |
| ludovicc | lots of stuff is not Maven, yet even those have POM descriptors describing them | 14:12 |
| ludovicc | available on online Maven repositories | 14:13 |
| persia | ludovicc, Ah. I see. The difference is that JavaContents provides a report on the contents of the Ubuntu archive, so we can detect duplication, etc. | 14:13 |
| persia | We could probably run the same thing against Debian. | 14:13 |
| persia | Until all the packages have been updated to include POM descriptors, it's a different view. | 14:14 |
| ludovicc | ok, so that's more like a tool for keeping the repository clean | 14:14 |
| persia | In fact, one could probably use JavaContents to help identify what should be added for POM descriptors. | 14:14 |
| persia | Well, and finding out on which package one needs to depend or build-depend when packaging. | 14:15 |
| ttx | ludovicc: it also helps in determining in which debian package is defined a given class | 14:15 |
| ttx | for example I've been looking for javax.faces | 14:15 |
| ttx | difficult to be sure it's not already provided *somewhere* | 14:15 |
| ludovicc | that would be good yes, but there are alternative solutions as always | 14:15 |
| ttx | with javaContents, I have the answer | 14:15 |
| ludovicc | the nice thing with this idea is snice you work with classes and packages, not with jars, it can work out very nicely with OSGi | 14:16 |
| ludovicc | so why not? | 14:16 |
| ttx | that's all on that subject | 14:17 |
| persia | OK. Next up: attracting more Java packagers | 14:18 |
| ludovicc | OSGi uses package names to locate services and organize classloaders | 14:18 |
| ttx | persia: so I've been looking at missing libraries... apparently Maven in debian is now ready (ludovicc could confirm) so all basic libs/plugins have been added | 14:18 |
| ludovicc | many of them, but it's far from complete | 14:19 |
| ttx | ludovicc: do you have a list somewhere in debian of missing pieces ? | 14:20 |
| ludovicc | only 5 or 6 plugins have been packaged, there are dozens yet to package | 14:20 |
| ttx | ludovicc: the idea is that if we have some Java packagers wanabees we want to point them to a list of things they can do | 14:20 |
| ttx | (and contribute back to Debian) | 14:20 |
| ttx | I also wanted to run a few Java lib packaging classes, where that list could be used | 14:21 |
| ludovicc | no list, but it's easy to get it: compare the list of plugins on the Maven site with what's in the pkg-java svn repo | 14:21 |
| ttx | so you'd say what's missing are maven plugins ? | 14:21 |
| persia | ludovicc, Do you think it would make sense to file a collection of RFPs for those, and for us to put out a call for Java packagers to tackle them? | 14:21 |
| ludovicc | that would be a good idea, but before I would like to be clear with Torsten Werner about the strategy for packaging Maven and its POMs | 14:22 |
| ludovicc | it's almost there though, so we can get started on that | 14:23 |
| ludovicc | I mean the RFP | 14:23 |
| ttx | ludovicc: ok | 14:23 |
| persia | ludovicc, That sounds reasonable. Would you be able to get back to us next week about the strategy? | 14:24 |
| persia | I'm sure ttx or I could find the time to file lots of bugs, and then put out the call. | 14:24 |
| ludovicc | hopefully yes, if I can get Torsten to work with me, he seems busy now | 14:24 |
| ludovicc | but anyway I have already a lot working on my side, if you could try it and give me your opinion, that would help | 14:25 |
| ludovicc | check https://code.launchpad.net/uj and https://code.launchpad.net/maven-packaging-support | 14:26 |
| ludovicc | lp:~ludovicc/maven-packaging-support/maven-repo-helper contains a tool for including Maven POMs into normal Java library packages | 14:26 |
| ttx | ludovicc: I seem to be confused on how complementary the work of Torsten and yours are | 14:27 |
| ludovicc | Torsten is working on a pure Maven solution, where you use Maven to build your package | 14:27 |
| ludovicc | I'm trying to complement this to provide Maven POMs for those many libraries not built with Maven | 14:28 |
| ludovicc | those POMs will then be placed in /usr/share/maven-repo, and used when building Maven projects dependent on external libraries | 14:29 |
| ttx | ok | 14:29 |
| ludovicc | so lp:~ludovicc/uj/junit and lp:~ludovicc/uj/modello are an exemple of those Maven-enabled libraries | 14:30 |
| ludovicc | I hope to get agreement from Torsten soon, and merge this work to Debian | 14:30 |
| ttx | that would be great. | 14:31 |
| ttx | ludovicc: do you plan to come at UDS ? | 14:31 |
| ludovicc | now I've got time, but no money... | 14:32 |
| ttx | that's why sponsoring is (was) for :) | 14:32 |
| ludovicc | missed it... | 14:32 |
| ttx | persia: anything else ? | 14:35 |
| persia | I don't have anything. | 14:37 |
| persia | ludovicc, ? | 14:37 |
| ludovicc | I started some time ago a guide for packaging Java libraries | 14:37 |
| ludovicc | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/KnowledgeBase/Packaging | 14:37 |
| ttx | ludovicc: I wrote one too. | 14:38 |
| ttx | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/LibraryPackaging | 14:38 |
| ludovicc | yeah, I saw it | 14:38 |
| ttx | mine is more Debian-packager oriented | 14:38 |
| ttx | "here are the differences in Java" | 14:39 |
| ttx | yours is more step-by-step | 14:39 |
| ludovicc | mine is more Java oriented (for the guy who know naught about Debian), but still very incomplete | 14:40 |
| ludovicc | it's based on the Python packaging guide, I'm sure we can do as well for Java | 14:40 |
| persia | Those look nicely complimentary. | 14:41 |
| persia | ludovicc, Do you need help, or just more time? | 14:41 |
| ludovicc | I need more time, but if you want to help, feel free to edit. | 14:42 |
| persia | heh :) | 14:44 |
| persia | OK. Anyone have anything else? | 14:44 |
| ludovicc | no | 14:44 |
| ttx | no | 14:44 |
| ludovicc | see u folks | 14:47 |
| ttx | bye ludovicc, thanks for coming ! | 14:48 |
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