[00:00] <BOZG> Hey.  Does anyone know what settings in /home could possibly disable PCI card detection?
[00:04] <josh-l> so here is my request :) http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Avant+%%5BREQUEST!%%5D?action=content&content=101283
[00:09] <joshua_> does anyone have kwin4-style-bespin installed? I have installed it but it refuses to appear in Window Decorations in the System Settings
[00:10] <tmeixner> !xorg.conf
[00:10] <phoenixz> Is there a way / command in shell that I can cat the contents of a text filie to the clipboard of KDE?
[00:10] <phoenixz>  like cat textfile > /dev/kde/clipboard (just a silly example, but it shows the idea)
[00:11] <joshua_> can dolphin save window size?
[00:26] <hix> phoenixz: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/clipboard?content=87114   thia m
[00:26] <hix> this may help
[00:27] <hix> oh its kde4 only it seems
[00:31] <hix> maybe xclip is what you're looking for
[00:58] <nate_> hello room
[00:59] <kinesis> Question - My friend told me that he tried running Kubuntu on his Lenovo IdeaPad S10 Netbook (1.6GHz Intel Atom Processor, 2GB ram) and youtube / flash was rather choppy.  I have two questions:  Will using a swap partition help at all, is swap even necessasary on a machine that has 2gb ram?  If thats not the solution, is there a way to increase FireFox(or swiftweasel)'s CPU priority ?
[01:00] <bazhang> flash was choppy? as in stopping and starting?
[01:00] <kinesis> like chopppy
[01:00] <kinesis> like if you watch a youtube movie for example
[01:00] <kinesis> it can seem sluggish or skip frames
[01:00] <kinesis> like not smooth playback as it should be
[01:00] <bazhang> in full screen?
[01:00] <kinesis> just in general period
[01:00] <casinowarren> question, anyone know of a good free password removal program?
[01:00] <kinesis> full screen or not
[01:01] <bazhang> swap will have no effect on that
[01:01] <nate_> i have the same problem, it pisses the wife off to no end.
[01:01] <casinowarren> I used to have one but the disk got stolen and I don't remember what it was.  It was linux based, but you could change passwords to any OS because it was a Live CD
[01:01] <kinesis> so im wondering if 1) putting a 2gb swap partition matters at all(i heard this only good for old school machines with like 256MB ram) or is there a way to increase CPU pririoty of the firefox/swiftweasel process
[01:01] <kinesis> making it utilize the cpu in realtime
[01:02] <kinesis> so with 2gb of ram you dont use swap right?
[01:02] <bazhang> casinowarren, password cracker?
[01:03] <bazhang> kinesis, rarely if ever
[01:03] <kinesis> im gonna use JFS on this is that a good choice
[01:03] <kinesis> i heard its the best
[01:03] <kinesis> and its made by ibm (same maker of this laptop)
[01:03] <kinesis> not that that matters any
[01:04] <bazhang> casinowarren, that is not supported in any #ubuntu channels, nor on freenode generally I would imagine.
[01:04] <bazhang> casinowarren, so please dont ask about it.
[01:04] <hix> casinowarren: pretty sure u mean Backtrack
[01:05] <kinesis> jfs or what?
[01:05] <kinesis> im in kubuntu setup right now so i need to know
[01:05] <kinesis> thats why im asking if swap is gonna help
[01:05] <kinesis> and what filesystem to use etc
[01:05] <bazhang> kinesis, this is intrepid?
[01:05] <kinesis> huh?
[01:05] <kinesis> no
[01:05] <kinesis> idk
[01:05] <kinesis> its Kubuntu 8.10
[01:06] <bazhang> yep
[01:06] <kinesis> so im wondering what FS to use
[01:06] <kinesis> I heard JFS is best
[01:06] <casinowarren> backtrack?
[01:06] <kinesis> and fastest
[01:06] <kinesis> w/e just going with JFS and no swap
[01:06] <bazhang> that is entirely up to you; ext3 has the best track record-->you could wait til next month and try ext4 if you wish
[01:06] <kinesis> ext4? hm
[01:06] <nate_> it seems like it is only some of the videos for me, the ones that are choppy display NaN:NaN for the time
[01:07] <kinesis> nate are you using SwiftWEasel
[01:07] <kinesis> ?
[01:07] <kinesis> or just regular firefox
[01:07] <nate_> firefox
[01:07] <kinesis> ok
[01:07] <kinesis> im gonna try w/ swiftweasel and see if it helps, theres an even fater one than that i hear but i forgot what its called
[01:07] <DaSkreech> kinesis: with any amount of RAM you sue swap once you run out of RAM
[01:07] <kinesis> so is swap necessary?
[01:07] <DaSkreech> esp with apps like Firefox that cache aggresively with RAM
[01:07] <kinesis> i have 2gb
[01:08] <kinesis> gonna just make 2gb swap partition, why not
[01:08] <bazhang> to be safe sure
[01:08] <bazhang> I have 6gb :)
[01:08] <kinesis> so main partition is which: Primary or Logical
[01:08] <DaSkreech> kinesis: With 2GB of RAM you can probably get away with 1 GB of Swap
[01:09] <DaSkreech> Honestly if you have teh HDD space then an extra 1GB won't kill you and it will be very sueful if you need it
[01:09] <kinesis> cool
[01:09] <kinesis> yeah
[01:09] <kinesis> So my main kubuntu partition is which: Primary or Logical
[01:09] <nate_> ive been battling it for months, queried chats etc, it is the same in konqueror
[01:10] <kinesis> well try swiftweasel idk
[01:10] <kinesis> im gonna try to hack it myself
[01:10] <kinesis> i have a feeling the linux kernel doesnt support intel atom properly
[01:10] <kinesis> but im gonna see if theres ways to increase CPU pririoty (like in windows
[01:10] <kinesis> priority
[01:10] <kinesis> for firefox/swiftweasel
[01:10] <bazhang> sure it does
[01:10] <kinesis> but i still need to know, is the main partition A) Primary or B) Logical
[01:10] <kinesis> and is the swap partition A) Primary or B) Logial
[01:11] <devilsadvocate_> my kubuntu is using 670 mb of ram, and i have a _lot_ of things running... 2 gb of ram is unlikely to swap
[01:11] <kinesis> ill just 1gb then
[01:11] <akraft> I'm trying to configure grip, but I can't find my cd drive. Rhythmbox sees it, but I can't find it in /mount, /dev, /media, etc. Any help?
[01:11] <kinesis> but like i said above.. still wondering
[01:11] <kinesis> i guess swap is logical, main is primary right?
[01:12] <devilsadvocate_> kinesis, doesnt matter (primary/swap)
[01:12] <devilsadvocate_> primary/logical*
[01:12] <nate_> mine are all logical.
[01:12] <akraft> grip doesn't like "cdda://scd0/"
[01:12] <hix> kinesis: isnt that important
[01:12] <kinesis> i just put main as primary
[01:12]  * devilsadvocate_ is off
[01:12] <kinesis> swap as logical
[01:12] <kinesis> makes sense, its your primary drive
[01:13] <hix>  kinesis: will be fine. i have all primary sometimes. also ok.
[01:13] <DaSkreech> kinesis: Do you understand partitions ?
[01:14] <kinesis> also can i get themes for this cuz the standard ubuntu stuff drives me crazy
[01:14] <bazhang> swap is swap
[01:14] <nate_> word
[01:15] <kinesis> will kubuntu setup give me an opportunity to install a bootloader?
[01:15] <bazhang> grub?
[01:15] <kinesis> yeah
[01:15] <bazhang> of course
[01:15] <nate_> it should automatically
[01:16] <kinesis> cool im a slackware guy but this laptop is so tiny i dont want to have to spend hours and hours customizing it the way i like on such a tiny keyboard
[01:16] <Rohan_SM> hi is there any way to install KDE while keeping gnome apps. I installed Ubuntu 8.10 but miss KDE. I tried some net advize though it removes all my GTK apps. I dont wannna remove ny of em n yet install KDE n its apps
[01:16] <nate_> right, if you have another os installed
[01:16] <kinesis> can you manually reconfigure and compile a linux kernel from source with ubuntu or will it break it?
[01:16] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop Rohan_SM
[01:16] <kinesis> as in /usr/src style
[01:17] <bazhang> kinesis, sure you can; but dont ask for support here then :)
[01:17] <kinesis> bleah
[01:17] <bazhang> !build-essential
[01:17] <kinesis> i want to tune my kernel for optimum performance
[01:17] <bazhang> !gentoo
[01:17] <kinesis> remove bloat i dont need, etc
[01:17] <kinesis> add a custom -tag to it
[01:17] <bazhang> see above ^^
[01:18] <kinesis> right
[01:18] <bazhang> or use the minimal installer
[01:18] <halfsane> configure: error: You need mcs
[01:18] <bazhang> 9mb iso
[01:18] <halfsane> what is mcs and how do i get it?
[01:18] <nate_> i have a problem where my monitor says not set for optimum setting (randomly)... and if i press ctrl+alt+f 1 then alt+f7 it goes back to working, any ideas
[01:18] <bazhang> !minimal
[01:20] <nate_> is something changing my display settings? its nvidia.......
[01:21] <nate_> and my k menu disapeared..
[01:22] <nate_> or rather the button
[01:22] <nate_> how do i get it back
[01:22] <DaSkreech> kinesis: There are a lot of kernel options outside of the default offered you can try one of those or of course yo ucan roll your own
[01:23] <DaSkreech> !kernel
[01:23] <DaSkreech> kinesis: ^^^
[01:23] <joshua_> anyone know how i can hack the Glassified plasma theme so that the panel looks right at a smaller size?
[01:25] <joshua_> N-E-One?
[01:25] <DaSkreech> joshua_: PIng the authour on kde-look.org ?
[01:26] <joshua_> DaSkreech: whos that?
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Go to kde-look.org search for glassified it will have a contact option there
[01:28] <joshua_> oh ok
[01:28] <joshua_> good idea
[01:30] <DaSkreech> anyone have any ideas about a murdered network card?
[01:32] <BluesKaj> murdered ?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Yeah Was doing an upgrade and it apparently fried
[01:35] <DaSkreech> I can see the card
[01:35] <Rohan_SM> Tnx a lot I found it I'll be installin it lateron
[01:35] <DaSkreech> has a device name
[01:35] <DaSkreech> It just can't get an IP address
[01:35] <DaSkreech> od any variety it seems
[01:36] <Rohan_SM> KDE is so cute no wonder every1z mad 4 it
[01:37] <DaSkreech> nate_: KDE4?
[01:39] <nate_> 8.04?
[01:39] <DaSkreech> nate_: That's not really an answer :)
[01:39] <DaSkreech> nate_: Did you install KDE4 or you are using KDE3?
[01:39] <nate_> i thied where do i find that
[01:40] <DaSkreech> nate_: If you don't know you probably didn't install it then :)
[01:40] <DaSkreech> as far as I know if you have a panel you should have a menu with it
[01:42] <nate_> thats what i thought, i used to now i have to use alt f1 to bring it up (in the middle of the screen)
[01:42] <DaSkreech> nate_: Ha ha Umm try and see if you can right clikc and add it to the panel
[01:44] <nate_> oh believe me i have tried, it will only do progs
[01:44] <DaSkreech> hrrrm
[01:44] <nihility> Where can i get some screen savers for kubuntu? i have search adept and nothing comes up.
[01:45] <DaSkreech> nate_: You can ask in #kde as well
[01:45] <DaSkreech> nihility: there should be a kubuntu screensavers package but you can try kde-look.org as well
[01:45] <nihility> What would i search for because a search for screensavers comes up with nothing
[01:46] <DaSkreech> screensaver ?
[01:46] <nihility> I have tried every variation of the word.... Could this be another issue?
[01:47] <DaSkreech> oh crap
[01:47] <DaSkreech> adept?
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Ibex?
[01:47] <nihility> ibex?
[01:47] <BluesKaj> kscreensaver
[01:48] <nihility> kscreensaver comes up empty as well
[01:48] <BluesKaj> xscreensaver
[01:48] <nihility> Nothing
[01:48] <BluesKaj> or Xscreensaver
[01:49] <nihility> Nope.... I know its not a connectivity issue.... obviously...
[01:49] <SuspectZero> i used the dd command to write my original mbr over my new mbr but when i restarted it said the partition table was is not there and the partitions arent being detected. any ideas on how i can recover either my original mbr or my new one. i have the original mbr on file in my partition but i cant access the partition
[01:51] <BluesKaj> nihility , it exists , Xscreensaver has to be downloaded seperately, it's available for linux if you google it
[01:51] <nihility> Ok... Then would i install it with adept?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> nihility: I'm back
[01:53] <DaSkreech> is it adept in ibex?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> SuspectZero: what command did you use?
[01:53] <nihility> daSkreech > I don't understand your question.
[01:54] <SuspectZero> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda/original.mbr bs=512 count=100
[01:54] <SuspectZero> thts to save it
[01:54] <BluesKaj> both x and kscreensavers are in adept but the medibuntu and thirdparty repos have to be enabled
[01:54] <SuspectZero> wait no
[01:54] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[01:54] <SuspectZero> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sda1/original.mbr bs=512 count=100
[01:54] <SuspectZero> thts to save it
[01:54] <nihility> ah ok thanks
[01:54] <SuspectZero> dd if=/dev/sda1/original.mbr of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=100
[01:54] <SuspectZero> tht to write it
[01:55] <DaSkreech> nihility:
[01:55] <DaSkreech> What version of Kubuntu?
[01:55] <kinesis> Hey, Kubuntu setup never asked me to configure grub or any sort of boot loader, what do I do? I have windows xp on this machine too
[01:55] <DaSkreech> SuspectZero: Looks solid
[01:56] <DaSkreech> kinesis: grub is smart
[01:56] <kinesis> itll just work?!
[01:56] <kinesis> auto?
[01:56] <SuspectZero> tahts wht i did but now my partition table is no longer there. i ahve the mbr file still on the partition but i cant access it
[01:56] <kinesis> dont i have to tell it i want to boot kubuntu by default (cuz windows xp is garbage on this machine)
[01:56] <BluesKaj> !grub
[01:56] <DaSkreech> kinesis: yes
[01:56] <kinesis> how?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> kinesis: It's smart
[01:56] <kinesis> "so the setup doesnt cover that
[01:57] <nihility> DaSkreech > 8.01 ??? the lastest stable version.
[01:57] <DaSkreech> SuspectZero: umm run something like testdisk on teh drive and try rebuild the partition
[01:57] <DaSkreech> nihility: 8.10 ?
[01:57] <nihility> yes
[01:57] <DaSkreech> nihility: ok close adept and open a terminal and run sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[01:58] <philena> hello everyone.  Anyone use Seamonkey?  I installed it, but the version is 1.12 and on mozilla it's 1.14.  I tried sudo apt-get -u install seamonkey.. but it says it's the newest version
[01:58] <DaSkreech> There is a bug in adept where when it changes sources.list it doesn't run that command
[01:58] <SuspectZero> is that a linux applicaiton?
[01:58] <kinesis> "so the setup doesnt cover that
[01:58] <kinesis> ?
[01:58] <kinesis> how do i configure grub
[01:58] <DaSkreech> philena: as far as Ubuntu is concerned it is
[01:58] <nihility> ok let me try
[01:58] <DaSkreech> SuspectZero: yes
[01:58] <SuspectZero> menu.lst in the grub folder
[01:58] <DaSkreech> !info testdisk | SuspectZero
[01:58] <DaSkreech> kinesis:
[01:59] <DaSkreech> You can use the graphical grub editor or you acn edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manually
[01:59] <kinesis> whats the command to pull p graphical editor
[01:59] <philena> oh well.. then the only way around that is manual install.  darn.. I don't like using thunderbird
[02:00] <BluesKaj> kinesis, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <kinesis> oh nvm it works fine
[02:00] <BluesKaj> BBL
[02:00] <kinesis> sweet
[02:00] <kinesis> nice
[02:00] <DaSkreech> kinesis: It's in system settings
[02:00] <kinesis> it worked out of the box
[02:00] <kinesis> its cool
[02:00] <DaSkreech> !info seamonkey jaunty
[02:01] <DaSkreech> philena: Does that help? ^^
[02:01] <DaSkreech> kinesis: Yes as I said it's smart
[02:01] <kinesis> my screen is turning red green blue
[02:01] <kinesis> and glitching
[02:01] <kinesis> wtf
[02:01] <kinesis> x didnt start...
[02:01] <kinesis> ok
[02:01] <kinesis> nah
[02:01] <kinesis> its glitchy
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Ah welcome to buggy LInux drivers brought to you by annoying hardware manufacturers
[02:01] <philena> I will have to put jaunty in my source list?  I can do that?
[02:01] <kinesis> what do i do
[02:01] <nihility> DaSkreech> Ok well i got one screen saver out of it. innerspace
[02:02] <DaSkreech> philena: No You can grab the deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:02] <SuspectZero> love u DaSkreech
[02:02] <kinesis> maybe its the resolution i need to make it proper
[02:02] <SuspectZero> it found my partition with the original mbr :)
[02:02] <DaSkreech> SuspectZero: Love you too
[02:02] <SuspectZero> thanks alot man
[02:02] <kinesis> after i logged in the glitchy sides went away
[02:02] <SuspectZero> appreciate it
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Sure
[02:02] <SuspectZero> :)
[02:03] <DaSkreech> kinesis: oooh that yeah that should be fixed in Jaunty
[02:05] <kinesis> how the hell do you slow down the mouse
[02:05] <kinesis> fast as a bullet hard to use
[02:05] <kinesis> i found the keyboard &  mouse settings
[02:05] <kinesis> got it nvm
[02:06] <kinesis> very n ice but i hate the theme and icons
[02:06] <kinesis> too cartoonish
[02:06] <kinesis> i like more squared and professional look
[02:08] <philena> ok.. a little confused.  Is this the page i'm suppose to be on?
[02:08] <DaSkreech> change the theme
[02:08] <philena> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/web/seamonkey
[02:08] <kinesis> how do i change the resolution
[02:08] <kinesis> seems not the best
[02:08] <DaSkreech> philena: Take out the /web/
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Oh wait
[02:09] <philena> I don't see a .deb file to add to the source list
[02:09] <DaSkreech> same page :)
[02:09] <DaSkreech> philena:
[02:09] <DaSkreech> ha ha no sources.list
[02:09] <DaSkreech> just a .deb
[02:10] <DaSkreech> At the bottom where it says Archeticture all
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Click on all
[02:10] <kinesis> how do i change my screnen resolution
[02:10] <kinesis> system settings then what?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Displpay
[02:11] <kinesis> i dont see it
[02:12] <kinesis> hold up
[02:12] <kinesis> ok
[02:12] <kinesis> any way to change the dpi
[02:12] <triune> anyone here use linux-rt?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> triune: just ask your question :)
[02:13] <kinesis> blah
[02:13] <triune> well, im using it with a quad core phenom
[02:13] <kinesis> WInKey doesnt even make the KDE "start menu" pop up thats gonna bug the hell out of me
[02:13] <triune> and vmware says i only have 1 cpu :(
[02:13] <triune> i used to have 4 :D
[02:13] <kinesis> think im gonna go slack
[02:14] <triune> so, does linux-rt only run in single cpu mode... or something like that?
[02:15] <DaSkreech> kinesis: alt+F1
[02:15] <carlos> hola
[02:15] <Guest74705> hola
[02:15] <DaSkreech> triune: unless you installed an MP kernel probably
[02:15] <DaSkreech> hola
[02:16] <bazhang> !es
[02:18] <triune> i installed w/e comes with linux-rt in intrepid, 2.6.27-3
[02:19] <DaSkreech> !find linux-rt
[02:19] <triune> Linux tellatran1 2.6.27-3-rt #1 PREEMPT RT Mon Oct 27 03:02:33 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:20] <triune> thats pretty interesting if the realtime patches for linux only work in single cpu mode
[02:22] <kinesis> blah
[02:22] <kinesis> i have a broadcaom wireless
[02:22] <kinesis> im gonna have to hack ndiswrapper on this arent i
[02:22] <kinesis> on this tiny impossible to use keyboard.. i cant believe i let my friend talk me into buying this
[02:24] <philena> Ok.. I just downloaded miro, and on top it says "Time for Upgrade"
[02:26] <doleyb> kinesis: How big is the keyboard!?
[02:26] <DaSkreech> !broadcom | kinesis
[02:26] <DaSkreech> philena: Yeah the problem with not having rolling releases
[02:27] <DaSkreech> philena: if you turn on unsupported updated you generally get much closer to the releases that are current
[02:27] <DaSkreech> With no support of course
[02:28] <philena> I don't really get this yet.  Does it work like Veoh?
[02:30] <DaSkreech> philena: I don't know what is Veoh?
[02:31] <philena> oh.. ok.. Well I have Veoh install on my Vista.  It's a video client that you can search and download content from the web.  have a library,etc.  so I though miro was the linux version since it sound the same.  But I'm still new to torrents so I dunno
[02:31] <kinesis> hey when i try to su to root i get authentication failure
[02:31] <kinesis> i hate typing sudo
[02:31] <kinesis> over and over for every root command
[02:31] <kinesis> how do i get in as root
[02:32] <kinesis> on a konsole
[02:32] <DaSkreech> sudo -i
[02:32] <kinesis> cool
[02:33] <DaSkreech> yup
[02:33] <kinesis> when i tpe iwconfig
[02:33] <kinesis> it shows a device
[02:33] <kinesis> when i do iwconfig eth1 essid test
[02:33] <kinesis> it shows more
[02:33] <kinesis> does that mean it works or do i still have to do all that
[02:35]  * DaSkreech shrugs. I never use Wifi
[02:36] <rmrfslash> what do i install for kde screensavers
[02:36] <kinesis> BroadCom Corp BCM4312
[02:36] <kinesis> Rev 01
[02:36] <DaSkreech> kscreensaver
[02:36] <kinesis> do i have to wrap it?
[02:39] <rmrfslash> cool thanks
[02:40] <Ahmuck> what do i need for opengl?  i have several pacakges
[02:41] <Ahmuck> http://pastebin.be/17359
[02:45] <liz> Hello all, is there a way to delete temporary internet folders in kubuntu hardy-heron???  Is it necessary?
[02:46] <kinesis> god the resolution on net books is awful
[02:46] <kinesis> 1024 x 600.. puke
[02:46] <kinesis> wish it was 1024 x 800 that would be a little nicer
[02:46] <joshua_> how does aptitude work better than apt for removing packages? (ive always heard it does that better)
[02:47] <kinesis> d
[02:47] <liz> isnt aptitude and apt the same thing?
[02:47] <doleyb> joshua_: you meant "better than apt-get"
[02:47] <joshua_> doleyb: yeah i heard it remembers stuff you install's dependencies better than apt-get
[02:48] <doleyb> joshua_: the key rule is to not switch back and forth them
[02:49] <liz> anyone know how to delete temporary internet files in kubuntu hardy?
[02:50] <kinesis> hey i got bcmw5l.inf what do i do with it
[03:00] <doleyb> liz: It depends on what web browser you use, but its probably not important.
[03:02] <philena> ok i figured out how to change and install themes, but how do i change KDEtwitterfrom being black?
[03:02] <liz> doleyb: thanks, I just was wondering because I thought eventually it would take up enough space to matter
[03:02] <liz> doleyb: I have opera and firefox
[03:04] <doleyb> liz: in firefox, go Edit Preferences Advanced Network Offline, and change the maximum allowed size
[03:04] <doleyb> liz: It looks like 50 meg is the default limit
[03:07] <liz> doleyb: ah ok, so it can be done through the browser, great thanks
[03:11] <afeijo> how can I burn a AVI in a DVD movie?
[03:11] <doleyb> afeijo: You have an avi, and you want to make it a dvd?
[03:12] <kinesis> GOD WTF
[03:12] <afeijo> yeah, a movie to my daughter be able to watch on our room
[03:12] <kinesis> I cant get ****king broadcom wireless working
[03:12] <kinesis> can anyone helkpo
[03:12] <kinesis> ???
[03:13] <afeijo> doleyb: I guess it could be VCD
[03:13] <kinesis> can anyone help me get bcmwl5 to work
[03:13] <kinesis> please
[03:13] <kinesis> this is driving me nuts
[03:14] <kinesis> i did this
[03:14] <kinesis> ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[03:14] <doleyb> afeijo: Do you need to play it in dvd player, or in computer?
[03:14] <kinesis> iwconfig eth1 mode Ad-Hoc essid WMWiFiRouter
[03:14] <kinesis> ifconfig eth1 up
[03:15] <kinesis> ifconfig eth1 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:15] <afeijo> doleyb: dvd player
[03:15] <kinesis> and i check iwconfig output, there is no ESSID set
[03:15] <kinesis> but iwlist eth1 lists my adhoc connection
[03:15] <afeijo> doleyb: its a pretty good philips, it have USB port, but I would like to give that burned in DVD to a friend of my daughter
[03:16] <kinesis> god
[03:16] <kinesis> im about to just say f** linux all together
[03:16] <kinesis> just use windows
[03:17] <afeijo> kinesis: so bye bye
[03:17] <doleyb> afeijo: You can try k3b or brasero
[03:17] <afeijo> doleyb: I have k3b, it converts?
[03:17] <kinesis> FUCKING HELP ME
[03:17] <kinesis> 234rfjop
[03:17] <kinesis> wqegjq
[03:17] <goofey> ubottu: !language | kinesis
[03:17] <kinesis> if you dont like foul language then respond to me
[03:17] <kinesis> and i wont use it
[03:18] <goofey> kinesis: we don't get paid to do this - we are all volunteers - we help when we know the answer
[03:18] <doleyb> afeijo: I don't know if k3b can convert, it doesn't look it.
[03:18] <goofey> kinesis: I don;t know the answer to your quesiton so I can't help you
[03:19] <goofey> kinesis: I find that complicated issues like yours are best solved in the forums, not in irc
[03:19] <doleyb> afeijo: Brasero can convert some how.
[03:20] <afeijo> I will try brasero, thanks
[03:20] <kinesis> i type iwconfig eth1 mode adhoc and i tyupe iwconfig and it says mode managed.. THATS NOT ADHOC
[03:20] <kinesis> alkhfqw
[03:21] <kinesis> fuck it
[03:48] <jpedroza> evening everyone. I am running into an issue where my laptop isn't recognizing how much time is left on the battery. It just tole me that the battery was critical and shut down when I have about 4 hours remaining.
[03:49] <jpedroza> I have been all over the net looking for a fix, but so far nothing has worked.
[03:51] <dave_> anyone know about running virtual machines?
[03:52] <bazhang> !vm
[03:53] <dave_> !virtual box
[03:53] <dave_> !vmware
[03:54] <bazhang> you can get virtualbox-ose from the repos
[03:54] <dave_> yeah i got it and its running
[03:54] <dave_> i don't know how to get install a windows os once i get started
[03:54] <bazhang> you need the installer disk
[03:54] <dave_> yeah i have it
[03:55] <bazhang> then navigate to it via the gui and choose it
[03:57] <dave_> i can't figure out how to do that
[03:57] <bazhang> did you choose to create a virtual hard disk?
[03:57] <bazhang> after choosing what OS to run?
[03:57] <joshua_> hey you guys, how do i go about installing amarok kde4 on intrepid?
[03:57] <dave_> yeah
[03:58] <bazhang> have you installed the guest additions and added yourself to the vbox user group?
[03:58] <dave_> nope
[03:58] <bazhang> aha
[03:59] <dave_> how exactly would i go about doing that ... sorry for all the questions but i have been a long time windows user and this is a lot different for me
[04:00] <joshua_> ok after adding http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu to my sources, is there anyway to update all my current kde3 applications to their appropriate kde4 versions all at once? or do I have to uninstall amarok kde3 for example and reinstall amarok kde4?
[04:02] <bazhang> joshua_, you can actually just enable backports now to get 4.2
[04:02] <bazhang> joshua_, some of the kde3 apps have not been fully updated to match kde4
[04:03] <joshua_> bazhang: I have kde 4.2 by adding "unsupported updates" but not the kde 4 apps
[04:03] <joshua_> will enabling backports do apps too?
[04:03] <bazhang> joshua_, and some of them are not there yet
[04:03] <joshua_> bazhang: ok thanks
[04:03] <bazhang> backports is for 4.2
[04:03] <bazhang> dave_, let me see if I can find a tutorial
[04:04] <dave_> that would me be much appreciated
[04:04] <dave_> i haven't found much that has been real helpful .... the whole process of installing new software is still a mystery to me
[04:04] <dave_> if its not in adept im not having much luck
[04:07] <joshua_> bazhang: intrestingly i already had backports enabled, but amarok is still version kde3.5
[04:07] <joshua_> is that normal
[04:07] <bazhang> dave_, a couple of guides on general ubuntu/kubuntu use might be handy
[04:08] <bazhang> joshua_, I'm not sure about amarok, if you are referring to amarok2
[04:08] <joshua_> yeah amarok2
[04:08] <dave_> yeah i've been reading ... the comprehension part hasn't been going so well was just hoping someone on here might have some quick fixes for me
[04:09] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntuguide.org/ dave_
[04:09] <joshua_> that probably requires a seperate installation i'm guessing
[04:09] <dave_> i feel like im missing some basics with this whole repositories concept
[04:09] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html
[04:10] <bazhang> !rute
[04:10] <bazhang> dave_, ^^
[04:17] <snarkster> evening
[04:18] <snarkster> so how is jaunty coming along
[05:19] <husayn> is there any alternative software for ksysguard
[05:23] <Slartibartfast> husayn: what you want to check? ...
[05:23] <Slartibartfast> for console/terminal there is top / htop
[05:25] <Slartibartfast> There is concky, but you can't have a lot of interaction with it ... there are also system monitor plasmoids ... also without to much interaction
[05:29] <Zengol> I have a question for anyone who can answer it.
[05:30] <Zengol> How many actual viruses can affect the Unix system?
[05:30] <Zengol> As of an up to date Unix system.
[05:31] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: To my knowledge "0" ... no virus in itself (without user-interaction) can infect a Unix system
[05:32] <Zengol> Slartibartfast: That is great to know.
[05:32] <Zengol> Slartibartfast: I believe back in 92' or a bit earlier there was a total of only 15 viruses that could effect Unix.
[05:33] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: The first virus ever was for Unix ... the Moris worm
[05:33] <Zengol> What did that one do?
[05:34] <Slartibartfast> spread
[05:34] <Zengol> What was it designed to do amongst the OS?
[05:35] <Slartibartfast> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Worm
[05:35] <Zengol> Heh.
[05:35] <Zengol> That's what i was just looking at.
[05:36] <Zengol> That's a pretty interesting subject.
[05:36] <Zengol> I never thought about a worm causing a system process overload.
[05:36] <Slartibartfast> I rather like to use the computer for other things :-)
[05:36] <Zengol> I knew you could change voltage setting's on a chipset to cause it to burn out, but never knew that.
[05:37] <Zengol> I use mine for music and gaming.
[05:37] <Zengol> But Kubuntu isn't pulling off my gaming too well. So...
[05:37] <Slartibartfast> dual boot
[05:37] <Zengol> I do...
[05:37] <Zengol> But i hate window's as of 2 day's ago.
[05:38] <Zengol> My friend goes to some website like my yearbook, or myspace.
[05:38] <Slartibartfast> why? :) ... let me guess .... virusses ?
[05:38] <Zengol> Messed up my firefox, has 2 new processes running hiddedn in the background that i can't shut down, and 1/4th of my ram is not allocating properly...
[05:39] <Zengol> I might go back to 98 as my dual boot, haha.
[05:39] <Zengol> See if i ever catch anything again using that
[05:40] <Zengol> I believe i would have quite a bit of trouble pulling it off though.
[05:40] <Zengol> Laptop came with that vista crap on it. : /
[05:41] <Zengol> Luckily the producer had a European site that provided XP driver's that allowed me to pull off an upgrade.
[05:41] <Zengol> But i believe i might trash dual booting completely and stick with KDE.
[05:42] <Slartibartfast> But still you paid for vista ... and ms sold another vista for their statistics
[05:43] <Zengol> I only bought it for the laptop, but yeah, you are right about that one. : /
[05:43] <Zengol> Would rather run Se7en. It seem's to be a massive upgrade from vista.
[05:43] <Zengol> I had a couple of incompatibility issue's, but i sure as hell didn't have as many as i did with vista.
[05:45] <Slartibartfast> 7 is just an upgrade to vista ... but it has a lot of vista running in the background ... naturally ms is buying a lot of marketing time from reviewers, who need to say how great and wonderful 7 will be
[05:46] <Zengol> I just like the fact of how well it run's since it in in beta and doesn't have all that extra junk they add in to keep traack of user profiling.
[05:46]  * il is back.
[05:46] <Zengol> It actually gave me AGP acceleration as well, which was very surprising.
[05:46] <Slartibartfast> Anyway ... This is a Kubuntu Channel ... and all this stuff i quiet offtopic :-)
[05:46] <Zengol> Oh yeah.
[05:47] <Zengol> When is the new Nix coming out?
[05:47] <Zengol> And will it be LTS?
[05:47] <Slartibartfast> new kubuntu ?
[05:47] <Zengol> Yeah.
[05:47] <Slartibartfast> nix is a naem for all Unix version and it software what looks like Unix ...
[05:47] <Slartibartfast> naem
[05:47] <Slartibartfast> name ;-)
[05:48] <Zengol> Third time's a charm.
[05:48] <Zengol> Lol.
[05:48] <Zengol> The newest one will be Jaunty?
[05:48] <Slartibartfast> Jaunty is expeced to be released on 23rd of April
[05:49] <Slartibartfast> But it won't be LTS
[05:49] <Zengol> I sure do hope it comes out better than Ibex.
[05:50] <Zengol> I have an issue with the enhanced desktop effect's.
[05:50] <Zengol> It cases a crash back to KDE upon resolution changes.
[05:50] <Zengol> So i have to keep it turned off.
[05:50] <Slartibartfast> Jaunty will have kde 4.2.1 as kde version ... That is already a great improvement
[05:50] <Zengol> I'm not sure if i can upgrade my version of KDE or not.
[05:51] <Zengol> Not even sure how to tell.
[05:51] <Slartibartfast> you can try with the backports / unsupported updates
[05:51] <Zengol> Ahh, 4.2.00
[05:51] <Slartibartfast> Yes
[05:51] <Slartibartfast> looks a lot like 4.2.1
[05:52] <Zengol> How would i access the updates?
[05:52] <Zengol> I'm sure 4.2.1 would have a fix for the issue i am experiencing.
[05:52] <Slartibartfast> Run Adept ... -> Sources > edit sources > Updates tab > unsupported updates >
[05:52] <Zengol> I like the eye candy since my system can pull it off, i just can't run t due to the crashing. : /
[05:53] <Slartibartfast> fetch packagelist ... and upgrade
[05:53] <jithine> Slartibartfast: but 4.2.2 will be relleased on april 1st wont it be included for jaunty
[05:53] <Zengol> Yeah i have unsuported checked.
[05:53] <Zengol> Could it be apart of pre-released updates?
[05:53] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: Don't know why it is crashing for you
[05:54] <Zengol> It has something to do with the desktop effect's.
[05:54] <Zengol> I'm gonna have to fiddle around with it and single out what the problem could possible be.
[05:54] <Slartibartfast> jithine: i am not sure, but i guess they are now rushing to get the bugs fixed of the kde version which they use now ... But this is mroe a question for #ubuntu+1
[05:54] <Zengol> Could be the fact it uses OpenGL to do the effect's, could be 1 single effect causing it, no telling really.
[05:55] <Zengol> Would it be a bad idea to activate pre-releasedupdates?
[05:55] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: it should be logged somewhere ...
[05:56] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: Not bad if you like to experiment with bleeding edge software :-)
[05:56] <Zengol> Haha.
[05:56] <Zengol> Do you think that could be why i haven't recieved an update for my KDE?
[05:57] <Zengol> Or is there an apt-get line that i could use to do it?
[05:57] <Slartibartfast> :-) ... not sure ... but which options you have selected there ? ...
[05:57] <Slartibartfast> i have myself on my laptop all options checked :-)
[05:59] <Zengol> Only thing i do not have checked is  "Pre-Released Updates"
[06:00] <Slartibartfast> check that too ...
[06:00] <Zengol> I'll just give it a try.
[06:00] <Zengol> If it messes anything up, i can just start from scratch.
[06:00] <Slartibartfast> True :-)
[06:00] <Zengol> Which is pretty easy considering i've been hanging out on here quite a bit, haha.
[06:00] <Zengol> I've learned quite a few thing's so far.
[06:01] <Zengol> =o
[06:01] <Zengol> New Kernel???
[06:01] <Slartibartfast> Yeah ,,, but installing a new version of Kubuntu is quiet easy ...
[06:01] <Slartibartfast> New kernel means also you will need to reboot after upgrade
[06:02] <Zengol> Yeah, but look's like no new KDE version for me. =(
[06:02] <Slartibartfast> Mmmm ... you already have kde 4.2 ?
[06:02] <Zengol> Yes.
[06:02] <Zengol> 4.2.00
[06:02] <Slartibartfast> ah .... ok :-)
[06:03] <Zengol> Is that the newest possible version for Ibex?
[06:04] <Slartibartfast> the bad thing about re-installing i think is my own custom settings which i need to do again ...  install bind as caching nameserver, install rar gimp, firefox, thunderbird ... etc
[06:05] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: Seems the 4.2.1 version is in some ppa repository
[06:06] <Slartibartfast> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa
[06:08] <Zengol> Sound's like fun to install.
[06:09] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: But it are quiet experimental packages ... so don't be surprised when things won't work :-)
[06:09] <Zengol> Yeah, true.
[06:09] <Zengol> I might try to just single out what my problem is instead.
[06:10] <Zengol> What all does a Kernel update anyway?
[06:10] <Slartibartfast> maybe it is a bug in your video driver ...
[06:10] <Slartibartfast> a kernel update gives you a new version of the kernel ...
[06:10] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[06:10] <Zengol> It's the same driver as the one in 8.04
[06:11] <Slartibartfast> nvidia :
[06:11] <Slartibartfast> ?
[06:11] <Zengol> But how does the new Kernel affect the system.
[06:11] <Zengol> Intel.
[06:11] <Slartibartfast> a new kernel maybe has newer drivers
[06:11] <Zengol> Ahh.
[06:12] <Zengol> I would have to install them manually though would i not?
[06:12] <Zengol> Or select them from a list.
[06:12] <Slartibartfast> what drivers you manually configured for your present kernel ?
[06:12] <Zengol> None.
[06:12] <Zengol> Lol.
[06:13] <Zengol> Just the initially installed vga driver's.
[06:13] <Slartibartfast> So a newer kernel won't need manually configured drivers either :-)
[06:13] <Zengol> So it will automatically upgrade them for me?
[06:13] <Slartibartfast> Yes ... to my knowledge yes ...
[06:14] <Zengol> Ok then.
[06:14] <Zengol> I will restart real quick and see what happen's.
[06:14] <Zengol> Be back in 10.
[06:14] <Slartibartfast> OK :-)
[06:14] <Slartibartfast> we hope
[06:14] <Zengol> Lol.
[06:17] <Zengol> So far so good.
[06:18] <Slartibartfast> Thats good :-)
[06:18] <Zengol> Time to see if i crash upon resolution change.
[06:20] <Zengol> Yep.
[06:20] <Zengol> Still crashes, haha.
[06:20] <Zengol> I'll just have to single out the problem.
[06:21] <Zengol> My main thought is that it could be the compositing type i'm using for the desktop effect's.
[06:21] <Zengol> It's running OpenGL for it at the moment.
[06:21] <Zengol> But i believe it crashes completely when i use Xserver for it.
[06:22] <Slartibartfast> IS your crash related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/279568
[06:23] <Zengol> Nah.
[06:23] <Zengol> What mine does is let's say...
[06:23] <Zengol> I decide to play a game or a movie in full screen.
[06:23] <Zengol> It has to change my resolution to 800x600.
[06:24] <Zengol> When it changes the resolution, it kick's me out to teh logon screen.
[06:24] <Slartibartfast> wow .. :-(
[06:24] <Slartibartfast> So laso to play a movie full screen you ned to change the resolution >?
[06:24] <Slartibartfast> also
[06:26] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: maybe you can find clues in "cat .xsession-errors"
[06:26] <Zengol> Well, so far i've only been testing it out using Wine and playing Diablo 2, haha.
[06:26] <Zengol> Only cause that's where my issue's first started at.
[06:27] <cerecitas> hmmm Zengol i may very well mistaken
[06:27] <Zengol> I have a feeling it's my compositing type, or direct rendering for my OpenGL option's.
[06:27] <cerecitas> but i also have an intel card and opengl gives me a bunch of problems
[06:28] <Zengol> But i did not get any issue's at all when i used DRI on 8.04.
[06:28] <cerecitas> tried with xrender already? even to disable all desktop effects? i cannot watch movies if desktop effects are enabled
[06:28] <cerecitas> (and good morning)
[06:28] <Zengol> I disable my desktop effect's and everything run's perfect.
[06:29] <Zengol> I just wanna know what it is inside my desktop effect's that is causing me to crash back to login.
[06:29] <Zengol> OpenGL, Direct Rendering... : /
[06:29] <cerecitas> opengl i would say, most likely.... is not very friends with intel chipsets as far as i know
[06:29] <Zengol> The OpenGL mode maybe.
[06:29] <Zengol> Yeah i've noticed that as well myself.
[06:29] <cerecitas> don't ask me technial or detailed explanation... for me just does not work
[06:30] <Zengol> Even in win it has serious issue's.
[06:30] <Zengol> I guess i'll switch to Xrender.
[06:30] <Zengol> If i'm still here it mean's i did not crash, haha.
[06:31] <Zengol> If i'm not, then i guess i have to re-install Kubuntu...
[06:31] <cerecitas> http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010479.htm
[06:31] <cerecitas> found that in a quick googling
[06:31] <Zengol> Cause i can't figure out how to reset my setting's completely yet.
[06:31] <Zengol> Well, i'm still here.
[06:32] <Zengol> Xrender is active.
[06:32] <Zengol> Lemme try a game or something real quick.
[06:32] <cerecitas> if your card is there maybe you can use ndiswrapper for the latest windows drivers.. couldn't tell
[06:33] <Zengol> AH HA!
[06:33] <Zengol> We got a winner.
[06:33] <Zengol> It's the compositing type.
[06:34] <cerecitas> i take it it worked?
[06:34] <Zengol> Switch to Xrender and give it a try.
[06:36] <Zengol> Any luck on your's?
[06:36] <cerecitas> i always have xrender
[06:36] <Zengol> Ahh.
[06:36] <cerecitas> i faced the same some time ago :p that's why i suggested you to try
[06:37] <Zengol> I'll have to keep in mind that OpenGL suck's on this chipset, haha.
[06:37] <cerecitas> different problems but the same at the end of the day
[06:37] <Zengol> Running an Intel 945GMA.
[06:37] <cerecitas> i thought about it when you mentioned intel and graphics freakin out
[06:37] <cerecitas> hihihihi Zengol
[06:38] <Zengol> Lol.
[06:38] <Zengol> Well, thank you for mentioning the compositing.
[06:38] <Zengol> I was going to go through the effect's and select one at a time to try and single out what was causing it.
[06:39] <cerecitas> no problem.... i aint no genius but i can help a bit sometimes :)
[06:39] <cerecitas> hmm no it's the whole thing
[06:39] <cerecitas> either you disable, either change to xrender
[06:39] <Zengol> I still can't get WoW to run though, haha.
[06:39] <cerecitas> took me a month to be able to watch a flm "decently"
[06:39] <Zengol> Run's slow as hell. : /
[06:39] <cerecitas> hmm wow?
[06:40] <Zengol> World of Warcraft.
[06:40] <cerecitas> aha... no idea aint no gamer :D
[06:44] <Zengol> Woohoo...
[06:44] <Zengol> Locked me up, haha.
[06:46] <commander_> i got a problem
[06:47] <commander_> my compiz config manager doesn't want to work the effects i'm used to
[06:54] <Jayrock> How do you upload files onto a remote server with cygwin?  #cygwin is empty
[07:00] <Zengol> What program would i use to playback a .cps file?
[07:00] <cerecitas> is that a video file Zengol
[07:00] <cerecitas> ?/
[07:01] <Zengol> Yes.
[07:01] <Zengol> I used the video recorder that is built into the desktop effect's section.
[07:01] <cerecitas> hmmm not sure if it will work but you can give a try to vlc
[07:02] <Zengol> Does Xserver use my actual Intel chipset to run the desktop graphic's or is it all emulated?
[07:03] <cerecitas> hmm that i have no idea :)
[07:03] <Zengol> Nope, no luck with VLC. : /
[07:03] <cerecitas> and urgs its 8am someone needs to get dressed and run to work hhehe
[07:03] <cerecitas> hmmm then no clue... maybe you can enter cps on add/remove programs and see what happens
[07:04] <Zengol> I believe it is a flash file.
[07:04] <cerecitas> hmm i just checked filext.com
[07:04] <cerecitas> but it wasnt very clarifying
[07:04] <Zengol> Is there a program in Adept that i can get that will play flash files by default?
[07:04] <Zengol> Don't say VLC...
[07:04] <Zengol> Lol.
[07:05] <cerecitas> hehe no
[07:05] <Zengol> I have had no luck at all getting flash files to work.
[07:05] <cerecitas> gotta go anyway, or i will be late for work
[07:05] <cerecitas> have a nice one
[07:05] <Zengol> Ahh, ok, haha.
[07:08] <Zengol> The desktop effect's make me run like crap anyway, imma just turn em off, haha.
[07:09] <Slartibartfast> Zengol: maybe yu can find somewhere some el-cheapo nvidia card and use that instead :-)
[07:10] <Zengol> Laptop. =P
[07:10] <Slartibartfast> ah ... :-(
[07:10] <Zengol> Stuck with the good ol' I got shafted integration bit.
[07:11] <Zengol> Is there a good video/audio converter that you would recommend?
[07:11] <Slartibartfast> mmmm ffmpeg ? ,,,, mencoder ?
[07:12] <Zengol> Which one would you say is better, or do they have theyre own uniqueness to them?
[07:13] <Slartibartfast> the second :-) ... it are both commandline programs which can handle a lot of cryptic options :-)
[07:14] <Slartibartfast> i like fmpeg, which i compiled from svn source
[07:15] <Slartibartfast> for a good howto i would recommend Paul Battley's instructions -> http://po-ru.com/diary/up-to-date-ffmpeg-on-ubuntu-hardy/
[07:15] <Zengol> If i knew how to compile something i would give it a try, but i'm not that advanced yet, haha.
[07:15] <Slartibartfast> you also can just try to install ffmpeg from repositories
[07:16] <Zengol> Well, i'm gonna try Mencoder since i have Medi in my sources list.
[07:17] <Zengol> I believe i'm installing a GUI frontend for it as well.
[07:17] <Slartibartfast> ffmpeg is also there
[07:18] <Zengol> But yeah, i'll just leave my desktop effect's off for the meantime, it even run's a little jumpy in Xrender.
[07:40] <michele> ciao
[07:41] <michele> !list
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[08:08] <zeltak> hi need some sos help..does anyone know how to remove a md0 raid thats currently runing?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> zeltak: if its running as the root folder then no can do
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> if its a simple data storage that doesnt contain system / Linux OS system files currently in use ten go ahead
[08:10] <zeltak> thx ActionParsnip for the answer
[08:10] <zeltak> no im trying to craete a raid but the first attempt failed
[08:11] <zeltak> i want to try again but for some reason md0 is still runing (even after i formated the individual HD)
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> !raid
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> zeltak: you could rmmod the raid module ;)
[08:12] <zeltak> ok how do i rmod it :) im very new to thiw
[08:13] <zeltak> rmmod /dev/mdo?
[08:15] <zeltak> i now know what went wrong the first tine i issued mdstat and i want to do it again yet the drives seems still to be connected to /dev/md0
[08:18] <zeltak> this is the message i get btw when i try to recreate the raid
[08:18] <zeltak> mdadm: /dev/sda1 appears to be part of a raid array:
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> zeltak: no, run lsmod
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> zeltak: those are all the probed modules, you can then remove the relevant one and it will make the raid stop working
[08:26] <zeltak> but will it kill raid for good or after that i can start creating the raid again?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> zeltak: the raid fnctionality i the current boot of the OS will cease, once rebooted the raid will be reinitiated (i hate fakeraid)
[08:28] <zeltak> ok thx how do i "remove it" then issue kill command?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> zeltak: sudo rmmod <module name>
[08:29] <zeltak> k gotcha
[08:29] <zeltak> thx again ActionParsnip
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> zeltak: i'd recommend doing all this in a live cd
[08:29] <zeltak> mm ok thx
[08:31] <cerecitas> hmm i have a little issue with partitions mounting... my fstab looks okay to me, and the "disk" permissions are in my user... then i wonder why on earth, i have to enter the root / user password everytime i mount it... it is not a big deal but i would like it to mount manually at startup...
[08:31] <cerecitas> i have also used chown -R on it with no luck, after every reboot i need to enter the password
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> cerecitas: if its in fstab correctly, it will mount at boot, if its a network mount you will need to add a script to the last rc level to rerun sudo mount -a
[08:32] <cerecitas> hmm ActionParsnip mind taking a look at my fstab? if something is wrong,then i don't know why
[08:32] <cerecitas> *what
[08:33] <cerecitas> # /dev/sda1     /home/kitsune/stuff       ext3   defaults, kitsune         0    1
[08:33] <cerecitas> that is the line
[08:33] <cerecitas> besides it doesnt mount in the specified path
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> cerecitas: is the # character on that line too or is that a typo?
[08:34] <cerecitas> it is, ihave never used it, but every single line starts like that on fstab here
[08:34] <cerecitas> never saw the #
[08:34] <cerecitas> but all the entries start by #
[08:35] <cerecitas> i thought it could be something distro specific
[08:36] <cerecitas> sec i will show you the whole thing in a pastebin ActionParsnip
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> cerecitas: use pastebin, the # may be doing stuff
[08:38] <cerecitas> jup
[08:38] <cerecitas> http://pastebin.com/m266cd907 honestly this is the weirdest pastebin i've ever seen
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> gah @ pidgin
[08:38] <cerecitas> i mean fstab
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> yeah the last line is a comment
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> so its not read, so it wont mount
[08:39] <cerecitas> aha
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab and remove the #
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> # == comment
[08:39] <cerecitas> i do it with nano... so starting by /dev/sda1 right/
[08:39] <cerecitas> hmm that was my understanding but then all lines are commented
[08:40] <cerecitas> that's what lost me
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> sure, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> some ARE comments but the last line needs to not be a comment and it will mount at bootup
[08:40] <cerecitas> ahaaaaaa
[08:40] <cerecitas> let me try, be right back
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> theres 208 users in #ubuntu-fr
[08:44] <cerecitas> hmmm no i cannot access it ActionParsnip
[08:44] <cerecitas> get an error
[08:44] <cerecitas> sec
[08:45] <cerecitas> http://pastebin.com/m2644eec
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> cerecitas: then the partition you specified in fstab is wrong
[08:46] <cerecitas> i think i found it
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> cerecitas: run: sudo fdisk -l
[08:47] <cerecitas> sec
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> if the mount command works and access is ok then when you reboot it will automount the same without need for a pass
[08:48] <cerecitas> uffff
[08:48] <cerecitas> more errors
[08:49] <cerecitas> hmmm i think i have it now
[08:49] <cerecitas> letme reboot once again
[08:51] <david_> I've borked my display by installing Nvidia drivers. I've managed to uninstall them, but I'm still having issues. Help?
[08:53] <cerecitas> finally that worked ActionParsnip thanks thousand :)
[08:53] <cerecitas> it is mounted in the path it should, and without any password
[08:53] <cerecitas> :D
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> david_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> cerecitas: thats because users cant access the fstab file so the system assume sudo editted the file which authenticates it
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> cerecitas: wtg man :D
[08:56] <david_> thanks, i'll give it a try.
[08:56] <cerecitas> i see
[08:56] <cerecitas> i fixed it removing the username next to defaults
[08:57] <cerecitas> it was defaults, kitsune so i left it in defaults
[08:57] <cerecitas> (and what means wtg?)
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> wtg == way to go
[08:57] <misticwarrior> hey... just a question: what's the difference between i486 and i686 ? I chose i486 and I think I should have chosen i686... is it a serious problem ?
[08:58] <maco> no
[08:58] <maco> i assume you mean while compiling a kernel?
[08:58] <cerecitas> ahaaaa oki thanks thousand really... it was annoying me a bit :D
[08:58] <shahram> helloooooooooo
[08:58] <maco> er wait...486, 586, and 686 are all listed together, arent they?
[08:58] <maco> anyway, no it wont break anything
[08:58] <maco> just some optimization differences is all
[08:59] <misticwarrior> maco: arf... ok I should chose the last one then
[08:59] <misticwarrior> :(
[09:11] <david_> Back again. I've still got problems with my video. I can no longer log in directly to my desktop - it "invisibly" crashes. :-(
[09:13] <david_> the original problem was "could not start kmserver. check your installation". I can't find what that means.
[09:15] <bazhang> did you install kwin
[09:19] <david_> re: kwin? is that a question to me, or someone else?
[09:20] <david_> i can get to my desktop if I use "use console" and log on and then "startx". But I can't get to the desktop via the normal graphical logon.
[09:20] <bazhang> david_, yep
[09:21] <bazhang> that had me not being able to get the desktop either
[09:21] <david_> so kwin might be gone? :-?
[09:21] <bazhang> !info kwin
[09:21] <bazhang> its optional
[09:22] <bazhang> so if you did not install it then its not there
[09:22] <david_> "kwin is already the newest version" says apt-get.
[09:22] <bazhang> at any rate that fixed it for me
[09:23] <bazhang> try the repair the xserver option in the safe login
[09:23] <david_> how do you get to the video settings? I can only find screen resolution, but nothing like bit depth or drivers.
[09:23] <david_> i did that. no dice.
[09:23] <david_> i'm not sure the problem is with the xserver, since everything comes up.
[09:24] <bazhang> remove quiet and splash from the boot parameters of the kernel you are booting (via grub menu)
[09:24] <david_> i suspect that something else got borked when i installed the nvidia stuff. i removed it with "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*"
[09:24] <bazhang> that way you can see the exact errors
[09:25] <david_> I'll try, but I can get to the login screen without any problems. It dies while trying to bring up the desktop.
[09:26] <david_> That's only after the logon. I can get to the desktop via the command line, so it's something during the desktop load.
[09:26] <david_> Is there a way of calling that from the command line?
[09:27] <david_> Hrm... I may also remove kwin and see if reinstalling it puts things to right. Any other guesses?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> david_: read dmesg | less and xorg.log0
[09:28] <xavierg2003> Hello
[09:30] <barman__> good morning, I want to give a user only access to a couple of webpages, and disable all other websites
[09:30] <barman__> how do i do this
[09:30] <maco> perhaps with dansguardian?
[09:30] <maco> its a content filter for parental control stuff
[09:30] <maco> might be able to do it
[09:31] <misticwarrior> is there a graphical interface that is more careful about energy economy ? For a laptop... or not ?
[09:31] <barman__> ok tx
[09:32] <david_> hrm... they don't seem to do anything, so i must have typed them (and their varients) wrong. :-(
[09:32] <misticwarrior> is there a graphical interface that is more careful about energy economy ? For a laptop... or not ?
[09:32] <david_> i found a suggestion to run "kmserver kdm" from the command line to see if there are any issues. I'm going to try that...
[09:32] <david_> thanks. -oo-
[09:36] <misticwarrior> help ?
[09:37] <bazhang> !info powertop
[09:38] <misticwarrior> I don't really wanna know what is using power on a laptop, I'm trying to choose btw gnome, xfce and kde which is the one that is better to economize energy... will powertop help me for this ?
[09:40] <bazhang> xfce lxde openbox fluxbox will all be better for that misticwarrior
[09:41] <bazhang> in roughly descending order
[09:41] <misticwarrior> ho ok
[09:41] <misticwarrior> I'll try xfce then .P
[09:41] <bazhang> most to last
[09:41] <misticwarrior> thank you !
[09:41] <bazhang> err least
[09:42] <astrobear> how can i execute a command without using sudo
[09:42] <bazhang> astrobear, which command
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> astrobear: just dont type sudo, the command will be run as your username though
[09:45] <astrobear> ActionParsnip1: that won't work
[09:45] <astrobear> bazhang: chmod and chown
[09:45] <bazhang> astrobear, you dont
[09:45] <astrobear> i figure one day i won't have access to sudo
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> astrobear: well sudo exists for many great reasons relating to security
[09:47] <astrobear> sure, sure
[09:47] <bazhang> may as well log into irc as root if you are that careless about security
[09:47] <astrobear> just wanting to know theoretically
[09:47] <enzo> hi
[09:48] <enzo> I have a problem, i've created again my dashboard, but it's at the top of my screen, how can i put it to the bottom ?
[09:48] <enzo> I can only change its width and height, but not its position
[09:50] <robin0800> enzo: sceen edge
[09:51] <enzo> ahh after 10 min, i've found
[09:51] <enzo> yes robin0800, i've found the way, move at the correct position
[09:51] <enzo> thanks !
[10:26] <Kimi> why kubuntu live cd is too slow than ubuntu live cd ?
[10:27] <xt> because is further to london than with airplane
[10:27] <Kimi> WHAT ??? :X
[10:27] <Kimi> xt what you talking ??
[10:28] <Kimi> xt why kubuntu live cd is too slow than ubuntu live cd ? ******this was my question not some london airplance
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> Kimi: kde default config uses more ram
[10:32] <Kimi> ActionParsnip1 ... thanks..
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> Kimi: if you want a light live environent go grab xubuntu, puppy linux, DSL, knoppix
[10:33] <aza> xubuntu is nice
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> or fluxbuntu (not official but decent)
[10:33] <Kimi> i have downloaded Xubuntu and have it in live cd
[10:33] <Kimi>  i tried DSL . its not that good when compared to XUbuntu
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> well its slimmer
[10:35] <Kimi> ok.. its just 50 mb while xubuntu is 600
[10:35] <Kimi> thank,,i am closing this
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> exactly so its not gonna have all the bells and whistles in xubuntu
[10:36] <t0104__> СтатьяСтатья
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> !ru
[10:41] <shadeslayer> hi im back with a fresh mind to resume my earlier problem,my CD does not automount
[10:42] <noren> hi all
[10:43] <shadeslayer> !hi | noren
[10:48] <shadeslayer> uh anyone who can help me mount my CD??
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[10:49] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you're STILL trying to mount this cdrom
[10:49] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: you !!!!!!!
[10:49] <shadeslayer> :|
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> ?
[10:49] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yes
[10:49] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: i copied your fstab remember??
[10:49]  * ActionParsnip1 thinks cd drive is faulty
[10:49]  * shadeslayer thinks that ActionParsnip1 is faulty
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> ive drank and slept since then dude
[10:50] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: havent we all
[10:50] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: well i had to delete that line i copied and make my own line,now only nautilus can mount the CD,nothing else
[10:51] <ikonia> so that not the CDROM drive
[10:51] <ikonia> thats the tools you are using
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: i'd go for a bios update then (maybe)
[10:51] <ikonia> bios update ?????
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> its an option
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> should be up to date anyway
[10:52] <ikonia> he's just got his software miss-configured
[10:52] <shadeslayer> yeah it is
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> good
[10:52] <ikonia> gnoem can see it, you can manually mount it - dolphin can't ----Hmmmm I see a patern
[10:52]  * ActionParsnip1 watches and eats popcorn
[10:52] <shadeslayer> ikonia: really??
[10:53] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what sofware can't see it ?
[10:54] <shadeslayer> ikonia: only dolphin and k3b
[10:56] <shadeslayer> ill just try k3b again to make sure
[10:56] <ikonia> shadeslayer: ok so there you go - it's just those software packages
[10:56] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i also tried reinstalling them
[10:57] <bazhang> !puregnome
[10:57] <shadeslayer> bazhang: i remove my KDE ?? :O nooo
[10:57] <bazhang> then reinstall it
[10:58] <shadeslayer> well then i lose my settings
[10:58] <bazhang> which are broken
[10:58] <shadeslayer> point taken
[10:58] <shadeslayer> ok so do i run that from GNOME or KDE??
[10:58] <shadeslayer> or terminal??
[10:58] <bazhang> tty
[10:59] <shadeslayer> tty??
[11:00] <shadeslayer> got it
[11:01]  * shadeslayer writes the commands down
[11:01] <bazhang> not the last one as you have ubuntu-desktop
[11:05] <shadeslayer> bazhang: now in terminal reinstalling
[11:05] <shadeslayer> wow irssi looks great without X
[11:06] <shadeslayer> bazhang: btw i did not have kdelibs4c2 installed
[11:06] <misticwarrior> help me... argh I'm about to burn everything. I just installed linux and my grub doesn't start... it lists my os, but when I press enter it doesn't work
[11:06] <misticwarrior> I pressed "c" to enter a command
[11:06] <misticwarrior> but I dunno how to tell him what to do
[11:07] <shadeslayer> misticwarrior: #grub can help
[11:07] <shadeslayer> *too
[11:08] <shadeslayer> bazhang: oh and one more thing,do i do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install KDE??
[11:09] <bazhang> shadeslayer, yes
[11:09] <shadeslayer> bazhang: ok
[11:11] <misticwarrior> shadeslayer nobody on grub
[11:12] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub misticwarrior
[11:13] <shadeslayer> misticwarrior: is GRUB loading??
[11:13] <misticwarrior> yeah
[11:13] <misticwarrior> but I think I missconfigured it
[11:13] <shadeslayer> ill check my /boot
[11:14] <Pur> obviously someone is awake, I need some network aide please fine ppl
[11:15] <shadeslayer> misticwarrior: can you see /boot/grub/menu.lst??
[11:15] <shadeslayer> as in read it??
[11:15] <misticwarrior> in fact I've installed gentoo. And I wanted to use only one partition, since I've got a mac and it's pretty special I think. So I mounted /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo and /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot and so now I have my grub in / and in /boot...
[11:15] <misticwarrior> shadeslayer: I cannot start linux in fact... I'm in the grub terminal "grub>"
[11:15] <bazhang> misticwarrior, is kubuntu somewhere in there?
[11:15] <misticwarrior> bazhang: er... no. But nobody could help me in #gentoo :(
[11:16] <bazhang> misticwarrior, then you need to wait as this is not ##linux nor #gentoo
[11:16] <misticwarrior> kubuntu is on the pc I'm now using to ask for your help
[11:16] <bazhang> interesting but offtopic
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> misticwarrior: you could symlink the file, then you'd only have one
[11:16] <shadeslayer> yeah....my thoughts exactly
[11:17]  * shadeslayer looks at terminal 3 and closes it
[11:17] <misticwarrior> ActionParsnip1: to have /boot on the same partition as / ?
[11:17] <shadeslayer> ooh everything downloaded,asking me for display manager,brb
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> misticwarrior: oh sorry
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> misticwarrior: thats abolutely fine
[11:18] <bazhang> !gentoo
[11:18] <misticwarrior> ActionParsnip1: my problem is that I've mounted /boot on / and now it's stupid because grub, by example, installed on / and not in /boot...
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> misticwarrior: with mounting, the OS sees folders ut th kernel handles mountings if a folder that is a mountpoint is accessed
[11:19] <shadeslayer> bazhang: installed everything,reboot or just restart X??
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> misticwarrior: you mean you mounted your partition usually used for /boot on /
[11:20] <bazhang> gentoo help in #gentoo please
[11:20] <shadeslayer> ill be back then
[11:21] <misticwarrior> ActionParsnip1: I think it's that... because I haven't a partition for /boot...
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> misticwarrior: i'd draw out what you have as well as where youo want them mounted then edit fstab appropriately
[11:22] <bazhang> this is offtopic
[11:22] <bazhang> I have asked nicely several times already
[11:23] <bazhang> this is kubuntu support please go to #gentoo for support of gentoo
[11:23] <misticwarrior> ok bazhang
[11:23] <shadeslayer> gah........... nothing
[11:23] <shadeslayer> i just lost quassel,my widgets,etc for nothing
[11:25] <shadeslayer> bazhang: what next???
[11:26] <shadeslayer> bazhang: what if i sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, that will no next to nothing
[11:26] <shadeslayer> devilsadvocate_: well i removed kdelibs5
[11:27] <shadeslayer> so what next??
[11:27] <bazhang> shadeslayer, that is just a meta-package, will do nothing
[11:27] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, that thould have taken kde out.
[11:27] <devilsadvocate_> so what do you want to do next :)
[11:27] <shadeslayer> well i still have my themes but not my widgets
[11:27] <bazhang> shadeslayer, lets see your unexpurgated sources.list
[11:28] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, umm.. if you removed kdelibs5 i doubt you have kde to start with :|
[11:28] <buyaka> hey guys.. my new installation is freezing up on boot at bluetooth service
[11:28] <shadeslayer> oh i think i didnt restart X
[11:28] <etfb> kmix has stopped autoloading when I log in.  Any suggestions as to why?
[11:28] <buyaka> i dont have any bluetooth devices..how can i disable bluetooth?
[11:28] <shadeslayer> should i?
[11:28] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, wait before you do
[11:28] <shadeslayer> ok
[11:28] <devilsadvocate_> you dont have kde right now, so thing it through
[11:28] <devilsadvocate_> think*
[11:28] <shadeslayer> i have KDE
[11:28] <devilsadvocate_> do you have another de?
[11:29] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:29] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, not if you restart x
[11:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[11:29] <shadeslayer> devilsadvocate_: i have GNOME and Xfce
[11:29] <devilsadvocate_> oh, cool
[11:29] <devilsadvocate_> then go ahead :)
[11:29] <shadeslayer> ok
[11:29] <buyaka> anyone know how to disable bluetooth?
[11:30]  * Pur needs some advanced NIC setup help... if anyone is knowlegeable
[11:30] <bazhang> pur just ask
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> Pur: ask your question. the room will reply if it can
[11:31] <Pur> I've got three NICs one Im want to use for net, the other I want running to my PC... I am having sever issues in completeing this task
[11:31] <shadeslayer> devilsadvocate_: nothing i still have a theme i installed
[11:31] <bazhang> pur load balancing?
[11:31] <shadeslayer> and KDE as well,well i installed KDE before when i removed kdelibs5
[11:32] <bazhang> or internet connection sharing pur
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> Pur: use static Ip on the internal NICs and make sure they use different subnets
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> Pur: e.g NIC1 will get dhcp for web, NIC2 = 192.168.100.1 NIC3 = 192.168.200.1
[11:33] <userone> hello
[11:33] <Pur> ActionParsnip1 I have tried that in so many different ways...............
[11:33] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, hmm
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> Pur: NIC2 & NIC3 will have subnet of 255.255.255.0 and NIC1 will get dhcp set gateway
[11:33] <etfb> buyaka: What output do you get from the hciconfig command?  It should list your bluetooth devices, if there are any loaded.
[11:34] <Pur> yea eth2 = > net NIC...
[11:34] <shadeslayer> devilsadvocate_: i seriously think its hal
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> Pur: the NICs need to be in different networks like that so routing can take place as the networks are distinguishable
[11:34] <bazhang> shadeslayer, for your cdrom not mounting?
[11:34] <bazhang> shadeslayer, why would you think that?
[11:34] <Pur> eth1 needs to go to my PC and eth 0 to my router... I have tried settign this up a million different ways in everyway imagineable I can come up with nothing
[11:34] <shadeslayer> yep since i cant even hear it spinning
[11:34] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, your drive might be screwed, or the disk may be bad ...
[11:35] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, hm.
[11:35] <shadeslayer> devilsadvocate_: opens fine in nautilus
[11:35] <devilsadvocate_> shadeslayer, when you put in the cd drive do you see anything in dmesg
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> !ics
[11:35] <bazhang> shadeslayer, but it works fine in gnome?
[11:35] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:35] <bazhang> then its misconfigured kde something or other
[11:35] <etfb> How do I make a program start up on boot or login?
[11:36] <devilsadvocate_> etfb, System Settings > Advanced > Autostart
[11:36] <etfb> Equivalent of Windoze's Startup folder, or MS-DOS's autoexec.bat?
[11:36] <shadeslayer> well we reinstalled KDE,whats left??
[11:36] <etfb> devilsadvocate_: Doesn't exist in Hardy, afaik.
[11:36] <bazhang> shadeslayer, you reinstalled all of that in two minutes?
[11:37] <devilsadvocate_> etfb, oh.
[11:37] <shadeslayer> bazhang: strange right??
[11:37] <shadeslayer> and i have a 128kbps connection
[11:37] <bazhang> shadeslayer, hard to believe actually
[11:37] <devilsadvocate_> etfb, ~/.config/autostart (i think)
[11:37] <devilsadvocate_> .desktop files go there, iirc
[11:37] <userone> anyone knows about font antialiaasing settings? I'm trying to find the right settings that makes the fonts look good
[11:37] <shadeslayer> bazhang: and GNOME took a hefty 1 hour
[11:37] <devilsadvocate_> etfb, kde 3.5 or 4 ?
[11:38] <etfb> devilsadvocate_: KDE 3.5.  I gave KDE4 two weeks of my life, and that was more than it deserved.
[11:38] <shadeslayer> devilsadvocate_: one sec ill check
[11:38] <bazhang> shadeslayer, you need to remove kubuntu, purge the apt cache and install fresh (ie purge after cleaning out apt archives)
[11:39] <shadeslayer> you speak greek my friend
[11:39] <devilsadvocate_> etfb, then the autostart config is there somewhere in the settings. i have absolutely no idea where exactly though
[11:39] <devilsadvocate_> bazhang,  over 128kbps, he'll pull his hair out by the time its done :P
[11:40] <shadeslayer> devilsadvocate_: heh,tell me about it
[11:40] <shadeslayer> bazhang: you mean there might be already downloaded files??
[11:41] <bazhang> shadeslayer, yes.
[11:41] <bazhang> shadeslayer, so a full clean of apt cache then purge and reinstall
[11:41] <shadeslayer> bazhang: can you give me some commands to do that??
[11:42] <etfb> devilsadvocate_: Doesn't look like it's there.  Unless it's hidden somewhere REALLY stupid...
[11:43] <userone> is it posible to make nvidia x server settings auto restore each time?
[11:43] <jochen__> hello everybody
[11:43] <etfb> Dammit... I wish I knew why kmix has stopped loading up when I boot or log in to Kubuntu.  It used to work, now I have to start it explicitly.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> etfb: add a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart
[11:44] <jochen__> I just installed kubuntu (had ubuntu before) but have some question to adept... the first one is: how can I prevent the gui tool from close the output screen when it has finished updating the sources? because I see some errors there
[11:44] <shadeslayer> bazhang: is this the command : apt-get autoclean
[11:47] <etfb> ActionParsnip1: Excellent! Thanks.
[11:47] <shadeslayer> ok i ran the command anyways :) now to remove kdelibs5 and kdelibs4c2
[11:48] <shadeslayer> ill brb
[11:49] <jochen__> ok anyway... my 2. question is: why does apt-get update does at "Translation-en_US" at some lines of source.list?
[11:51] <etfb> Here's another puzzle: why would the volume control on my laptop stop working?  It used to work, then something changed and it stopped.  I've mapped some keys to substitute for it, but it's annoying.  What sort of thing causes that?
[11:52] <jochen__> could nobody help me with my question?
[11:52] <shadeslayer> bazhang: the install finished too quickly again
[11:52] <shadeslayer> not even a second was taken
[11:53] <userone> dont know the answer jochen__ but it does the same on me too
[11:53] <etfb> jochen__: I don't understand the question.  There are a couple of grammatical errors that make it very obscure.  Can you rephrase?
[11:54] <jochen__> etfb: I use "apt-get update" and see that some lines end with "Translation-en_US"
[11:54] <shadeslayer> bazhang: any idea??
[11:54] <jochen__> etfb: but I don't know why this is added. because it is not mentioned in the file "source.list"
[11:55] <shadeslayer> :( looks like bazhang left
[11:56] <userone> can anyone recommend a program for managing a portable player
[11:56] <etfb> jochen__: I would guess that these are separate files containing locale strings.  To explain: some programs separate their text strings into a file, and you can choose a translation.  So the US English version might contain "File", "Open", "New" and so on, and the French would contain "Fiche", "Ouvrir", "Nouvelle" and so on (excuse my high-school French).
[11:57] <etfb> jochen__: You're seeing the separate translation files for each of the programs you're updating.
[11:57] <shadeslayer> ok ive gtg,ill use GNOME for now
[11:58] <jochen__> etfb: sorry, I don't get that. WHO does at this tell apt-get to add "Translation-en-US" to some lines?
[12:00] <etfb> When you use apt-get update, it goes to the repositories to get the newest versions of your programs, right?  Well, sometimes the only change is to the translations, so that's what it gets.
[12:02] <etfb> jochen__: Wait - I just ran apt-get update and it did something similar for me, but with a prefix of "Ign" = "Ignore".  Does yours have that?
[12:02] <etfb> jochen__: (Mine says Translation-en_AU, for Australian English, but that's because I'm in Australia and I told my regional settings that.)
[12:03] <jochen__> etfb: ok, but where does it come from???? I don't want this to be added. because it causes errors... to already existing lines but more important to a line I added manualy (virtualbox) ..it starts the line with Ign...
[12:05] <etfb> jochen__: Not sure, but if it says "Ign" it means it's being ignored.  Maybe it's part of how update works.  You'd have to look at the man pages I guess.
[12:06] <jochen__> etfb:  the manpage of apt-cache does say nothing about this
[12:06]  * etfb is reading "man apt-get" with a growing sense of wonder at just how powerful it all is...
[12:07] <etfb> jochen__: I don't know then.  Why is it a problem?
[12:08] <jochen__> etfb:  it is a problem because it does NOT accept the repository from virtualbox, and so I can't use this to install the current version of virtualbox
[12:09] <jochen__> etfb:  and this problem did not appear when using ubuntu instead of kubuntu
[12:11] <etfb> jochen__: No idea, sorry.  I usually give up before this point and install stuff from sources using make and ./configure.  Hurts less than fiddling with repositories...
[12:11] <rmrfslash> Hey. I tried to configure an OpenGL screensaver and for whatever reason my whole machine crashed, so I had to force reboot. Now, whenever I login it starts up my System Preferences and some preview window for a screensaver.
[12:11] <rmrfslash> How can I prevent these from starting up?
[12:12] <rmrfslash> are these startup items saved somewhere (and were never deleted properly)?
[12:12] <jochen__> etfb: thanks anyway. do it from source is one way, I could also download a packege from the website itself... but more than this I want to understand whats going on under the hood of adept/kubuntu
[12:14] <narsil> http://www.radio21.ro/site/Radio21Live.m3u
[12:14] <jochen__> etfb: Just in the moment I was able to fix the problem. and it was as I that: "Translation..." does lead to "ignoring some lines of the source.list. and that happens because of somebody (don't yet know who) adds it. but it is possible to tell apt that it should not search for any translation by adding a file apt.conf with content "APT::Acquire::Translation "none"; "
[12:14] <jochen__> oh just left...
[12:15] <shadeslayer> bazhang: are you there??
[12:15] <bazhang> shadeslayer, yes
[12:15] <shadeslayer> ok how do i purge apt??
[12:16] <shadeslayer> bazhang: i was reading this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[12:24] <shadeslayer> bazhang: gone off to sleep??
[12:25] <bazhang> shadeslayer, no I'm here
[12:25] <shadeslayer> i was wondring what the command was?
[12:25] <bazhang> to do what?
[12:26] <shadeslayer> purge apt?
[12:26] <bazhang> have you read the manual for apt-get?
[12:27] <ikonia> purge apt of what ?
[12:27] <bazhang> cache
[12:27] <ikonia> oh, what's the problem with the cache ?
[12:27] <ikonia> how does that have anything to do with the cdrom ?
[12:27] <shadeslayer> ikonia: im reinstalling KDE
[12:27] <bazhang> he is going to completely reinstall kde
[12:28] <shadeslayer> ive already removed it ;)
[12:28] <ikonia> so again - why do you need to purge the cache ?
[12:28] <XPS_M1330> what's the deal with knetwork manager? is it a pre-alpha thing?
[12:28] <shadeslayer> ah the packages are still there,the KDE ones
[12:28] <bazhang> XPS_M1330, for jaunty?
[12:28] <ikonia> shadeslayer: so ?
[12:29] <shadeslayer> so it reinstalls in 1 sec and bazhang told me to purge
[12:29] <XPS_M1330> suddenly it started to say my network connections (both lan and wan) are "unmanaged" there's nothing I could do
[12:29] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what's the problem using the cached packages ?
[12:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that XPS_M1330
[12:29] <XPS_M1330> bazhang:  Intrepid, KDE 4.2
[12:29] <XPS_M1330> I had to logoff and start a gnome session
[12:29] <bazhang> XPS_M1330, 4.2.1?
[12:30] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no idea ask bazhang
[12:30] <XPS_M1330> yesterday it kept disconnecing me from the wifi network, I had to reboot everytime and it reconnected fine. Restarting X didn't work
[12:30] <XPS_M1330> bazhang:  I don't think so. Where can I check that?
[12:31] <bazhang> XPS_M1330, 4.2 from backports?
[12:32] <XPS_M1330> bazhang: yes.
[12:32] <bazhang> XPS_M1330, that is odd, have you tried configuring manually (ie cli)?
[12:33] <XPS_M1330> ie cli? no, I don't know how to configure manually yet.
[12:33] <bazhang> does ifconfig show three entries?
[12:33] <shadeslayer> ill just check if kde works
[12:34] <XPS_M1330> no!
[12:35] <XPS_M1330> it only show po
[12:35] <XPS_M1330> well, when I was under KDE
[12:35] <XPS_M1330> now it shows 4
[12:35] <XPS_M1330> what's #ubuntu+1
[12:35] <bazhang> wmaster0?
[12:36] <bazhang> thought you were using the non-released version as you mention pre-alpha
[12:36] <bazhang> that is the channel for that
[12:38] <XPS_M1330> no, I said that because I've been having so many problems with knetworkmanager that I'm wondering how come there it's not stable and functionnal
[12:38] <bazhang> aha
[12:39] <bazhang> had heard about folks using the gnome version as knetwork-manager has some 'issues'
[12:39] <XPS_M1330> maybe I can rune gnome network manager in kde?
[12:39] <bazhang> I try to avoid them all and use the command line
[12:39] <bazhang> not difficult at all really.
[12:39] <XPS_M1330> I might just do that once I've learned how it works
[12:39] <bazhang> let me get you a link
[12:40] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 XPS_M1330
[12:40] <rmrfslash> I made a swap partition during my kubuntu installation, do I need to enable it or is it going to be identified and used automatically?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> bazhang: now i have no borders+no CD
[12:41] <rmrfslash> I did choose it to be a "swap" partition
[12:41] <XPS_M1330> thanks
[12:41] <bazhang> rmrfslash, it is scarcely likely to be used
[12:41] <shadeslayer> terminal is going all weird with parts of it missing
[12:41] <shadeslayer> wahhh
[12:41] <bazhang> shadeslayer, sounds serious
[12:42] <shadeslayer> very
[12:42] <rmrfslash> scarcely?
[12:43] <bazhang> =not very
[12:43] <shadeslayer> my terminal is being eaten gets a whole new meaning
[12:43] <rmrfslash> Also my swap partition, which I made first has a star in the "boot" column of fdisk -l
[12:43] <shadeslayer> ill post a screenshot to show what i mean
[12:43] <rmrfslash> What is this? Did kubuntu install /boot to this partition?
[12:45] <dr_willis> rmrfslash:  the bootable flag is set.. which is odd. but proberly wont affect anything.
[12:45] <rmrfslash> ok
[12:45] <shadeslayer> now the thing which comes up on pressing Alt+F2 wont come
[12:46] <shadeslayer> ill brb
[12:47] <rmrfslash> I finally got everything configured on my new laptop (XPS 16), however, the only problem is resuming from a suspend to ram or disk with the ATI driver enabled. Basically, the machine is hung. Other than this, it seems like everything with a few configurations here and there works fairly well. Does anyone have any clues as to why resume might be a problem and to whom I should file the bug report?
[12:48] <bazhang> !bugs
[12:48] <XPS_M1330> bazhang:  the link you gave me, just explains setting up wifi connections. since even my interface eth0 is absent, will that guide help my current problem?
[12:49] <bazhang> XPS_M1330, does lspci show them
[12:50] <XPS_M1330> it show ethernet controller and network controller
[12:50] <XPS_M1330> but I'd have to login with KDE see if it shows then.
[12:51] <rmrfslash> I was told to create a bigger swap partition for suspend to disk, which I did and this did not help the situation. To be honest I'm not sure what's going on here and mildly upset about it considering that everything else works so well.
[12:52] <rmrfslash> dr_willis or bazhang: do you think I should just report this as a bug?
[12:53] <rmrfslash> I mean, obviously it's a bug... but I don't know if I just have something misconfigured (like alsa_base stuff)
[12:53] <rmrfslash> Could be an acpi config issue I guess
[12:54] <shadeslayer> i lost GNOME as well :(
[12:54] <rmrfslash> isn't that a good thing?
[12:55] <shadeslayer> :O
[12:55] <shadeslayer> rmrfslash: i have no DE now
[12:56] <shadeslayer> bazhang: i think apt finally is downloading the files
[12:57] <rmrfslash> Not sure what DE is
[12:57] <rmrfslash> desktop effects?
[12:57] <shadeslayer> ! DE | rmrfslash
[12:57] <shadeslayer> heh
[12:57] <shadeslayer> well its what you use
[12:58] <shadeslayer> !desktop > rmrfslash
[12:58]  * XPS_M1330 kisses ubottu
[12:59] <rmrfslash> gotcha
[12:59] <BluesKaj> !Desktop Effects
[12:59] <bazhang> !ccsm
[12:59] <BluesKaj> !info Desktop Effects
[12:59] <shadeslayer> oh GNOME is up again
[13:08] <fyl0n> where to go for Jaunty support?
[13:09] <n1c0> Hi Guys. Can you suggest me the better way to upgrade kde version to 4.2 please?
[13:09] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[13:09] <fyl0n> bazhang: thanx
[13:09] <bazhang> n1c0, enable backports
[13:10] <anang> haiiii
[13:10] <anang> anybody there
[13:10] <bazhang> anang, yes
[13:11] <anang> im first using this irc client..
[13:11] <anang> i dont see DALnet
[13:13] <n1c0> bazhang: i've just do it but in many guides i read i must uninstall some package first to upgrade (sorry for my bad english) I'll would like receive a suggest on this from anyone of you
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:13] <bazhang> n1c0, I believe that was for the ppa?
[13:14] <reagleBRKLN> hi everyone, on fresh intrepid install, I can't install texlive-base-bin, would someone be willing to confirm? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-bin/+bug/345705
[13:15] <rand_acs> !print
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> reagleBRKLN: does the deb gte downloaded?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> *get
[13:15] <rand_acs> !print
[13:15] <reagleBRKLN> ActionParsnip: yes, postinst problems
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> reagleBRKLN: aaaah i see
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> reagleBRKLN: is there a new version on the developers site?
[13:16] <reagleBRKLN> requires its own perl/ctan based install, trying it now so i can continue to work
[13:16] <reagleBRKLN> but i'd atleast like to get a confirm
[13:16] <reagleBRKLN> i think it's a problem on jaunty too
[13:17] <reagleBRKLN> apt-get install texlive-base-bin; then when it stalls ^c; and dpkg -P texlive-base-bin
[13:17] <buyaka> ive got a weird rendering but with firefox near the tabs.  Web pages look fine but the interface is a little buggy right below the tab buttons.  Is this common?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> reagleBRKLN: you could try sudo dpkg --foce-all -i /var/cache/apt/<whatever>
[13:18] <reagleBRKLN> ActionParsnip: don't think it would be useful, tex can't build/check itself
[13:19] <reagleBRKLN> and it is intalling, but just infinitely recursing/stalling
[13:21] <n1c0> bazhang: yes, i've enabled this repo:
[13:21] <n1c0> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[13:21] <n1c0> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[13:22] <bazhang> n1c0, okay then you need to follow the instructions from that page, since that time enabling backports would do it
[13:23] <n1c0> bazhang: ok but which are the right packages i must remove?
[13:24] <bazhang> n1c0, check the ppa page for instructions
[13:25] <n1c0> the ppa page? Why? They have a page too?
[13:34] <Zengol> !cps
[13:34] <Zengol> : /
[13:34] <Zengol> !.cps
[13:34] <Zengol> Bleh, guess i'll never know what that is...
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !cps
[13:38] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !info cps
[13:41] <emine> salut
[13:41] <n1c0> Guys how i can to mount my ntfs partition forever on boot?
[13:42] <emine> hi
[13:42] <semri> hello
[13:44] <ikonia> n1c0: put it in your /etc/fstab
[13:46] <Zengol> How do i change directory in terminal?
[13:46] <Zengol> Having a bit of trouble pulling it off for some reason...
[13:47] <michaeldadmum> test in quassel
[13:47] <michaeldadmum> michaeldadmum: test
[13:48] <dr_willis> Zengol:   try cd /media
[13:48] <suad> !restricted
[13:50] <Zengol> I found out what i was doing wrong.
[13:50] <Zengol> Had to be specific with the lettering for the directory.
[13:51] <Zengol> Was pointless to do so though.
[13:51] <n1c0> ikonia: what i do write in /etc/fstab?
[13:51] <Zengol> I used Kwin video to make a recrd of my desktop, but all i have is a black screen ad a mouse cursor swirling around, haha.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Zengol: running compiz by any chance?
[13:56] <Zengol> Umm, nope.
[13:56] <Zengol> Well.
[13:57] <Zengol> I guess it could be compiz.
[13:57] <Zengol> Desktop effect's that came with 8.10
[13:58] <Zengol> Had to look up a command line to change the file format to allow me to change it yet to ANOTHER format, then i was able to play it back with dragon player.
[14:01] <michaeldadmum> Hi all, I recently have a problem with KWin. After I install the fglrx Xorg driver, I tried to enable desktop effects in KWin and the system was not responding (it started). However, when I tried to use compiz as the WM, the desktop runs smoothly.
[14:04] <alberto> hola!
[14:05] <michaeldadmum> Hi all, I recently have a problem with KWin. After I install the fglrx Xorg driver, I tried to enable desktop effects in KWin and the system was not responding (it started). However, when I tried to use compiz as the WM, the desktop runs smoothly.
[14:06] <Guest94292> alguien que hable en español?
[14:07] <michaeldadmum> English please.
[14:09] <ghostcube> michaeldadmum: learn the language triggers to help non english guys and dont bark anything out
[14:10] <chris-rc1> hi
[14:10] <ghostcube> hi
[14:10] <chris-rc1> why do i get different values in kdf and df -h ??
[14:16] <dr_willis> chris-rc1:  and how different is different? :)
[14:18] <chris-rc1> dr_willis: pretty different. the values for free are the same, but not for used (as well as the percentage values for used)
[14:19] <dr_willis>  -h is human readable.. other then that.. im not even sure  about kdf, never used it
[14:19] <dr_willis> !info kdf
[14:27] <kanon-mat> watch swap with vmstat ksysguard or htop
[14:27] <kanon-mat> oh, this channel :)
[14:38] <josh-l> hey all, how would i go about upgrading intrepid to jaunty? fully?
[14:40] <bazhang> josh-l, wait until it is released then via update manager
[14:40] <bazhang> it is only alpha6 now, discussion in #ubuntu+1 josh-l
[14:40] <dr_willis> I normally wait a week or 4 till after its released :)
[14:45] <BluesKaj> well, the new FFMPEG 0.5 seems to work well on my media server , it's doing it's job of on the fly conversion to our TiVo . I'm happy for now , til the next kernel upgrade screws something up :)
[14:48] <bazhang> handbrake here
[15:29] <vmt1>  !nagios
[15:37] <cjae> can anyone here, using k3b, burn a dvd or cd and then verify it? especially when using kde 4.x? The reason I ask is that I think that I cannot verify because of the automounter
[15:38] <Rob71> join #kubuntu-it
[15:39] <cjae> didn't even know about the channel
[15:39] <cjae> thanks
[15:41] <LjL> cii_: i think he merely mis-typed a /join command - that's the channel for italian users
[15:41] <LjL> err, cjae i meant
[15:41] <LjL> as to your question, i don't really know
[15:42] <cjae> ok thanks
[15:48] <OsugiSakae> anyone know how/where to get the plugins for krename?
[16:05] <kanon-mat> i have 6 plugins that came with the krename package
[16:07] <OsugiSakae> i installed some packages, including mp3info and koffice and now i have 8 functions listed
[16:08] <OsugiSakae> but the picture one one has like 4 or 5 options. time and date are not there.
[16:08] <OsugiSakae> krename in gentoo had them, so i know they exist.
[16:09] <shadeslayer> sorry for that,my irssi seemed to act of its own accord
[16:09] <OsugiSakae> question is, i guess, which packages provide those?
[16:11] <kanon-mat> maybe they are not provided :(
[16:13] <OsugiSakae> i hope that is not the case - i use them to rename all my pictures. thanks for your help.
[16:14] <OsugiSakae> i will check the krename channel, if there is one.
[16:19] <cajun> I've been having issues lately with the z key on my keyboard.  I have a Dell Precision M20 Laptop. xdev gives me the following output when I press the key. http://paste.ubuntu.com/134295/  If I use shift, I sometimes get an upper case one.  Caps Lock doesn't always yeild either, although I have had luck using caps lock then shift to produce a z. All other keys on my keyboard seem to work correctly.  I have used the proper settings for my keyboard.  does anyo
[16:27] <cajun> anyone?
[16:28] <vovyanych> есть кто живой?
[16:29] <LjL> !ru | vovyanych
[16:29] <michael__> lol
[16:31] <OsugiSakae> cajun: sorry, no ideas.
[16:32] <EagleBLACK> HOla
[16:42] <tao> :o)
[16:46] <tao> tady toho nakecáte
[16:58] <noaXess> mirko__: hoo
[16:58] <noaXess> !flashplayer | mirko__
[16:59] <noaXess> you need to know ubottu. is just a bot
[17:00] <noaXess> mirko__: i mean you ;)
[17:00] <mirko__> oh - ok,
[17:00] <mirko__> thank's
[17:00] <noaXess> nop
[17:00] <mirko__> I've never bee here
[17:08] <tom> on kubuntu 9.04 > alpha 6 "log out" doesn't work for me, is this a known issue?
[17:09] <altrortla> how can i know if php and apache is correcty configurated?
[17:10] <tao> tom: use comand exit
[17:12] <Slartibartfast> tom: although i think this is a question for ubuntu+1, i would like to ask you if you use the 180.35 nvidia driver? ...
[17:13] <tom> no, I mean "log out" of the running kde session -> returning to kdm
[17:14] <noaXess> mirko__: !flashplayer
[17:14] <noaXess> !flashplayer
[17:14] <tomsdale> what's the linux command which lists all UUIDs of my system. I think it had 4 characters
[17:14] <tomsdale> !UUID
[17:14] <noaXess> mirko__: see above and read :)
[17:15] <tom> @Slartibartfast: no, I have a intel gfx card and use the intel gfx driver (composite or not doesn't matter)
[17:15] <tomsdale> I just remembered the genius bot :-)
[17:15] <Slartibartfast> tom: i asked because i had also trouble logging out and shutting down fro a running kde session in jaunty ...... but that disappeeared when i changed to an older driver
[17:16] <tom> what do you mean with "a question for ubuntu+1"?
[17:16] <Slartibartfast> tom: But as i said, this is more a topic for #ubuntu+1 ...
[17:16] <Pici> !jaunty
[17:20] <shadeslayer> hi i reset everything to default
[17:21] <shadeslayer> but my CD rom still does not mount
[17:21] <mirko__> !flashplayer i
[17:21] <tom> has someone else with a intel graphic card problems with logging out ?
[17:21] <mirko__> !flashplayer
[17:22] <mirko__> !adobe
[17:22] <shadeslayer> !pmthebot | mirko__
[17:22] <LjL> !msg the bot
[17:23] <tao> Tom:  system / KUser /
[17:24] <tom> system / KUser ? do you think it's a permission problem?
[17:24] <Slartibartfast> tom: you still asking about jaunty here ? ....
[17:25] <tom> yes, about jaunty. is this the wrong place?
[17:25] <LjL> yes
[17:25] <Slartibartfast> yes
[17:25] <LjL> !jaunty
[17:27] <tom> exit
[17:27] <Slartibartfast> tom ... type /join #ubuntu+1
[17:28] <tom> thanks
[17:30] <shadeslayer> !cdparanoia
[17:31] <tao> ! kill
[17:32] <tao> ! exit
[17:32] <LjL> !botabuse
[17:33] <shadeslayer> whoa
[17:33] <shadeslayer> LjL: please dont consider this as trolling but i cant contain my excitement
[17:33] <shadeslayer> my CD mounts!!!!!
[17:34] <tyler_d> I'm missing the desktops from the taskbar on the bottom?
[17:35] <tyler_d> sorry, kpanel
[17:35] <bazhang> tyler_d, the pager?
[17:35] <shadeslayer> tyler_d: the bar at the bottom??
[17:35] <tyler_d> shadeslayer: yes
[17:35] <shadeslayer> rt click>add panel
[17:36] <tyler_d> shadeslayer: no no, I have the panel.. missing the little button to allow you to change from screen 1 to 2(depending on how many is configured)
[17:37] <shadeslayer> thats the pager
[17:37] <shadeslayer> tyler_d: rt click the panel>add widgets>pager
[17:37] <bazhang> add widget choose pager (right click on panel)
[17:38] <tyler_d> shadeslayer: ok, found it.. thank-you
[17:38] <tyler_d> just didn't know the name
[17:38] <tyler_d> ty bazhang
[17:38] <shadeslayer> bazhang: thanks to you i now have a perfectly fine system
[17:40] <shadeslayer> bye and thanks
[17:52] <slerder> Hey guys anyone know the command (that uses grep i believe) to list all incoming and outgoing connections with their ports and preferably processes? thanks
[17:53] <OsugiSakae> slerder: netstat?
[17:53] <slerder> osugisakae, nope, thats not the one im looking for but thanks :)
[17:54] <OsugiSakae> than sorry, not sure.
[17:55] <jamesj> please how i can change the keyboard configuration___
[17:55] <Slartibartfast> slerder: sudo netstat -tuanp gives all open connections with their processes
[17:56] <Slartibartfast> use sudo because not all processes will be shown when running as normal user
[18:00] <jamesjedimaster> jamesj: Kmenu -> System -> System settings -> Keyboard layout, then select from avaliable layouts and move them to active layouts
[18:01] <josh-l> hey folks, got a problem here with jaunty, i can only connect to my router if I turn off wep.... help?
[18:01] <jamesjedimaster> jamesj: then you'll see in the taskbar the icon for keyboard layout
[18:02] <jamesjedimaster> or setxkbmap for command line on Konsole
[18:02] <Slartibartfast> !jaunty
[18:07] <josh-l> whats the intrepid network manager called?
[18:08] <josh-l> hello
[18:16] <OsugiSakae> josh-l: you mean the system tray applet?
[18:17] <maco> knetworkmanager?
[18:20] <Slartibartfast> network-manager-kde ?
[18:21] <jamesjedimaster> it is knetworkmanager
[18:24] <delicowa> hi peeps
[18:25] <delicowa> when really is the jaunty release party
[18:26] <Slartibartfast> !jaunty
[18:27] <Slartibartfast> April 23rd ... Final Release
[18:31] <beardbar> ahh finally sound, got my xonor dx sound card in today. so lovely
[18:32] <Kovert> a
[18:33] <Kovert> as of the last fex days my screen saver can not be kontrolled by the "system setting" it forces me to use a password. any fix?
[18:33] <Kovert> fex= few
[18:34] <maw_> I experienced a power outage and my KDE stopped loading. I found corrupted files in /tmp. I made a new /tmp and set appropiate permissions. However, when I login now I don't see any icons, task bars and I can't right click with my mouse. However, there is a single shell window that opens and I can execute commands in the shell.
[18:36] <Kovert> ren xorg.config?
[18:36] <maw_> are you suggesting I change my xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ?
[18:38] <Kovert> yes
[18:38] <Kovert> rename it
[18:38] <maw_> why would I do that?
[18:38] <maw_> I tried a "safe xorg.conf"
[18:39] <Kovert> so it rebulds
[18:39] <maw_> rebuilt it using dpkg-configure
[18:39] <maw_> but that is only a static file for configuration and was working fine for months before power outage
[18:41] <aza> #gentoo
[18:45] <Kovert> as of the last few days my screen saver can not be kontrolled by the "system setting" it forces me to use a password. any fix?
[18:50] <makdaknife> Kovert: hmmm I've been having a similar issue... not sure what causes it... but check Advanced -> PowerManagement in system settings as well
[18:51] <makdaknife> not sure if that will help
[18:51] <Kovert> will try that thanks
[18:54] <yogich> Jaunty Alpha 5's bluetooth worked great.
[18:54] <yogich> Alpha6 bluetooth is bushted.
[18:55] <noren> !jaunty | yogich
[18:55] <yogich> Wilco.  thanks.
[18:57] <michael> test
[18:59] <GR> Howdy All!! am looking for info please! I just installed Kubuntu for the first time ever and it looked like all is working until all I get is a command line saying ubuntu@ubuntu:~$  any ideas how I get to the desktop? (is on diff laptop beside me)
[19:00] <akim> hi
[19:01] <GR> Howdy All!! am looking for info please! I just installed Kubuntu for the first time ever and it looked like all is working until all I get is a command line saying ubuntu@ubuntu:~$  any ideas how I get to the desktop? (is on diff laptop beside me)
[19:01] <GR> anyone??
[19:01] <GR> :( Please?
[19:01] <cerecitas> hmmmm
[19:02] <cerecitas> do you know what you were doing? that looks like a tty...
[19:02] <andyroid> GR, "startx"
[19:02] <gnumm> i just installed kubuntu 8.04
[19:02] <andyroid> in case it isn't
[19:02] <gnumm> how can i make sure to get 8.04.2?
[19:02] <gnumm> the cd was 8.04(.0)
[19:03] <cerecitas> now i am having a minor issue with my wireless... the signal is really weak and i am like 2m away from the router.. i think the signal intensity is 50 per cent or less
[19:03] <cerecitas> normally when i sit here i have 100 per cent
[19:03] <GR> now it says fatal server error: AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[19:04] <cerecitas> hmm GR it looks like a X is having problems... i am no good with it but which graphic card you have?
[19:04] <andyroid> GR, to switch between your terminals, press ctrl+alt+f[x] where x is the terminal you want to switch to
[19:05] <andyroid> x is normally in tty 7
[19:05] <andyroid> so try ctrl+alt+f7
[19:06] <GR> ctl+alt+F7'ed now is blank screed with curser flashing....
[19:09] <andyroid> Xorg -configure
[19:09] <noukist_> hey
[19:10] <kou> hello
[19:10] <kou> anyone knows any greek channel ?? :)
[19:10] <noukist_> hey are u from greece ? :)
[19:11] <kou> yes
[19:11] <noukist_> xaxa
[19:11] <noukist_> :P
[19:11] <noukist_> stathis
[19:11] <bazhang> !gr
[19:11] <kou> xristos
[19:11] <kou> xarhka
[19:11] <kou> im going to that room
[19:11] <noukist_> ok
[19:11] <noukist_> ;)
[19:11] <kou> sorry for the greek in here
[19:15] <kou> hey all
[19:17] <kou> i was wondering if anyone could point me to the right direction , im trying to get 2 monitors to work on an ATi HD3870.
[19:17] <kou> the forums are quite helpfull
[19:17] <kou> but i messed up once and had to reinstall.
[19:18] <noren> !ati | kou
[19:19] <kou> thnx mate
[19:19] <kou> or girl
[19:19] <kou> !ati
[19:19] <kou> aha
[19:19] <kou> im already on that page accualy
[19:20] <kou> the thing is i have read that xinerama and merged fb doesnt work with binary drivers..
[19:22] <noren> kou then what is the error or problem
[19:23] <kou> the thing is that im a rookie
[19:23] <kou> and i messed up with the xorg.conf file
[19:23] <kou> once and had to reinstall
[19:24] <kou> is there any program that would do it for me ?
[19:24] <noren> if u default again u can get the default xorg setting from the booting up in the recovery option frm grub
[19:25] <fosco__> do what
[19:25] <noren> *fault again
[19:25] <bsm> hi, anybody noticed a better runtime on notebooks with kernel 2.8.28 from jaunty?
[19:25]  * arriesp bye gente
[19:25] <sidd> bye arriesp
[19:25] <noren> fosco__: i thinnk he is trying to get two monitor setup with ati
[19:36] <kou> how do i backup and recover the xorg.conf file
[19:36] <antonio_> xyx
[19:36] <kou> cause i ll prob wont get it right first try..
[19:38] <juergen> alt+F2 then kdesu nautilus then copy
[19:38] <juergen> kou^^^^
[19:38] <kou> kdesu nautilus ?
[19:38] <kou> ahhh
[19:38] <kou> got it
[19:39] <kou> its an app ?
[19:39] <juergen> then you copy as root
[19:41] <haskr> hi
[19:41] <haskr> sdfdsdfs
[19:41] <kou> and if i copy as root i ll be able to load it ?
[19:41] <kou> before the ubuntu loads?
[19:41] <kou> do i hit a hotkey?
[19:41] <kou> juergen?
[19:42] <juergen> yes you can save it
[19:43] <juergen> after copy back do /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:43] <juergen> after copy back do /etc/init.d/gdm start
[19:43] <juergen> for gnome
[19:43] <juergen> in console
[19:44] <kou> ok i ll try this
[19:44] <kou> thnx a lot
[19:45] <kou> bu if i try this command and then the system fails to function
[19:45] <kou> the display accualy
[19:45] <kou> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[19:45] <kou> how do i get my systen to recover it ?
[19:49] <basti_> hi there! can someone give me the header (in hex) and the offset (dec) of the kmail mbox files?
[19:51] <juergen> kou http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258186 or search there fore xorg.conf recover :)
[19:52] <juergen> there you can find all you need
[19:52] <kou> thnx sooo much again
[19:54] <oskar_> Looking at dns-records, anyone know how to configure it to answer to http-requests on the domain name? Like http://domain.tld instead of WWW.domain.tld
[19:59] <nookie^> oskar_: in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled i guess
[20:00] <nookie^> look for your domain there
[20:00] <nookie^> add there domail.com
[20:00] <nookie^> in the file u edit
[20:18] <josh-l> hey folk
[20:19] <josh-l> anyone use bespin ? is there anyway to remove the blurred out buttons? I hate that
[20:19] <josh-l> oh btw there is lots of interest in the mockups I found to make a new kde theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=101283&forumpage=0
[20:21] <franck> salut
[20:24] <shadeslayer> what was the name of the package for the extra function keys?
[20:25] <frederic_> hello. I've installed kubuntu next to my windows Xp installation. Since then i can't start windows any more. I always get a blue screen when i try to start windows. Can somebody help me?
[20:27] <maw_> I experienced a power outage and my KDE stopped loading. I found corrupted files in /tmp. I made a new /tmp and set appropiate permissions. However, when I login now I don't see any icons, task bars and I can't right click with my mouse. However, there is a single shell window that opens and I can execute commands in the shell.
[20:27] <shadeslayer> maw_: you want to reset KDE?
[20:28] <maw_> sure ...
[20:28] <maw_> the display manager is broken
[20:28] <maw_> just don't know where
[20:28] <nookie^> frederic_: if u have xp disc
[20:28] <shadeslayer> ok i can help reset KDE to defaults
[20:28] <nookie^> look on google for windows command
[20:28] <nookie^> chkdsk
[20:28] <nookie^> it saved me tons of timses
[20:28] <nookie^> times
[20:29] <shadeslayer> maw_: rm -R ~/.kde
[20:29] <shadeslayer> in terminal
[20:29] <noukist> !gr
[20:29] <frederic_> nookie^: run chkdsk and then? Should it work after that step?
[20:29] <maw_> shadeslayer: I renamed my .kde to .kde old and rebooted
[20:29] <maw_> err .kdeOLD
[20:29] <maw_> but issue is still there
[20:30] <maw_> could there be other user specific files cached somewhere?
[20:30] <shadeslayer> maw_: try deleting the folder as a whole
[20:30] <shadeslayer> maw_: worked for me 2 hours earlier
[20:30] <maw_> I already replaced it with an empty folder >.<
[20:30] <maw_> same thing?
[20:30] <maw_> I mean... rename .kde to .kdeOLD ... reboot
[20:30] <shadeslayer> maw_: uh my CD's didnt mount,something was borked
[20:30] <maw_> new .kde appears
[20:31] <palaiokwstas> kde 4.2.1 when?
[20:31] <noukist> hey all i runned a programm in windows it's called lavalys and says that my web cam model is creative webcam instant #4
[20:31] <shadeslayer> maw_: and you still get a shell?
[20:31] <frederic_> nookie^: run chkdsk and then? Should it work after that step?
[20:31] <noukist> do u have eany idea where i can find modules to install it ?
[20:32] <maw_> shadeslayer: KDE is loading but I see no icons or taskbar... just a GUI shell which I can interact with
[20:32] <noukist> apparently not ... .thanks anyway ;)
[20:33] <shadeslayer> no idea then,sorry
[20:33] <maw_> hehe
[20:33] <nookie^> frederic_: i think its chkdsk -r c:
[20:33] <nookie^> something like that
[20:33] <nookie^> it was a quite a while a go
[20:33] <nookie^> it repairs your windows installation without loosing any files
[20:33] <frederic_> nookie^: i looked it up on google and it should be schkdsk -f
[20:33] <frederic_> chkdsk -f
[20:34] <nookie^> hmm
[20:34] <nookie^> let me se
[20:34] <shadeslayer> maw_: if everything fails reinstall KDE,last option ;)
[20:34] <nookie^> yeah it was
[20:35] <maw_> ugh ya... everything is working... even kde is 90% working. I think there is cached file somewhere
[20:35] <frederic_> nookie^: ok i'll try.. and then come back. so please be so kind to wait until then
[20:35] <shadeslayer> anyone know what the the package for special keys is called?
[20:36] <shadeslayer> *multimedia keys
[20:42] <Winston_> çäðàñòå
[20:43]  * noukist afk
[20:47] <frederic_> nookie^: re
[20:47] <frederic_> nookie^: didn't work. Windows couldn't find any drive to repair
[20:53] <frederic_> hello. Since i've installed Kubuntu next to windows XP i can't start windows any more. I get a bluescreen. can somebody help me?
[20:56] <axel> Hello! I'm looking for an app which can create secure WPA-Keys (Hex).
[20:57] <xjjk> axel: for cracking?
[20:58] <frederic_> axel: if you use WPA without PSK every key is secure
[21:00] <frederic_> hello. Since i've installed Kubuntu next to windows XP i can't start windows any more. I get a bluescreen. can somebody help me?
[21:01] <axel> xjjk: for not beeing cracked.
[21:01] <josh-l> what repo is amarok2 kde4 in?
[21:01] <axel> frederic_: PSK?
[21:01] <xjjk> axel: why does it need to be hex?
[21:02] <xjjk> make something longer, I suppose... but the point of encryption is that no plaintext is easier to decrypt than another
[21:02] <frederic_> axel: pre-shared key
[21:02] <axel> xjjk: I have to enter it in a web radio without keyboard.
[21:03] <xjjk> axel: a psycological tactic is to use a key that doesn't look like a normal key
[21:03] <xjjk> most people use phone numbers, names, etc
[21:03] <xjjk> dd if=/dev/random | md5sum -
[21:03] <xjjk> will get you a random string that doesn't obviously look like a key/password
[21:08] <axel> frederic_: The device I want to connect to the network supports only PSKs.
[21:09] <frederic_> axel: ok... then the bist is a hexidecimal ke with special chars
[21:10] <josh-l> is there a static firefox package?
[21:10] <frederic_> josh-l: what do you want to do with the package?
[21:11] <axel> frederic_: and how to generate such a key? I'n not very creative in thinking about such keys.
[21:11] <josh-l> frederic_: i dont want to have to install all of gnome libs just to use firefox
[21:13] <axel> frederic_: what do you mean with special characters ? a-f?
[21:16] <frederic_> axel: !"§$%&&&/(()=?
[21:16] <billybigrigger_> dumb question, but i come from gnome, just trying out the latest kde in jaunty, i downloaded a new theme in .tar.gz how do i install it? in desktop prefs i cant seem to drop the file into the window like in gnome, and when i click on install theme all i see is how to install themes from kde-look
[21:16] <p-f> just installed kubuntu and mounted my encrypted fat partition using truecrypt. Files with umlauts and other special characters are showing up with ? instead. I'm having a similar problem in opera, except it shows square boxes instead. What's up with that?
[21:16] <frederic_> josh-l: sudo apt-get install firefox. all packages you install with, are dependecies you need
[21:17] <axel> frederic_: ??? I thoght in a Hex-key only 0-9 and a-f was allowed.
[21:17] <xjjk> axel: are you talking about WPA or WEP?
[21:18] <frederic_> frederic_: that's right, but a WPA-key can use any character you want
[21:18] <p-f> frederic_: "you need" = "apt thinks you need". It wants to pull in synaptic, half of gnome and a bunch of other silly packages
[21:18] <frederic_> xjjk: about WPA-PSK
[21:19] <frederic_> p-f: otherwise you can download it via the mozilla site
[21:19] <axel> xjjk: WPA.
[21:20] <josh-l> frederic_: I know that, that wasnt even close to an answer to my question
[21:22] <billybigrigger_> how do i tell if compiz or emerald is enabled?
[21:22] <billybigrigger_> do they come enabled on a default install? i installed from gnome terminal, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:22] <jamesjedimaster> there isn't a firefox package as in 8.04, without all those gnome libs
[21:22] <josh-l> billybigrigger_: no i think intrepid has kde effects enabled by default though
[21:23] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: this is on ubuntu jaunty, so i imagine im using jaunty kde repos no?
[21:23] <josh-l> billybigrigger_: yes you are, are you interested in desktop effects in general or just compiz?
[21:24] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: is there anything better than compiz? :P
[21:24] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: compiz is fine, but im open to anything new, if theres something better than compiz out there
[21:24] <josh-l> billybigrigger_:  well personally i dont mess with compiz on KDE 4 since KDE has its own effects that are very nice
[21:25] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: k, well how do i change window decorations then?
[21:25] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: or install a theme? like its not like gnome where i can drag and drop the .tar.gz into the apearance window
[21:25] <josh-l> to enable them billybigrigger_ just go to kmenu, select System Settings> Desktop> then  check enable desktop effects
[21:25] <billybigrigger_> maybe i just gotta play with it more and figure it out
[21:26] <josh-l> then to change themes, go to System Settings> Appearance and youll find where to change other themes
[21:26] <billybigrigger_> k, desktop effects where already enabled
[21:26] <p-f> another problem: when using my volume buttons, the volume osd gets displayed but doesn't actually change. Mute works.
[21:26] <josh-l> cool then you should see fading windows and stuff
[21:26] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: if thats what you call it lol
[21:26] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: compiz on gnome looks alot better than kde's effects, no offense
[21:27] <josh-l> i disagree, but each to his own
[21:27] <p-f> and the sound is terrible, it's almost as though I was playing in mono
[21:27] <billybigrigger_> hmm...maybe i dont have window fading enabled, unless its enabled when effects is enabled
[21:28] <billybigrigger_> nvm, fade is enabled
[21:28] <frederic_> hello. Since i've installed Kubuntu next to windows XP i can't start windows any more. I get a bluescreen. can somebody help me?
[21:28] <p-f> and my wifi led is flashing for no reason
[21:30] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: ok in appearance > windows theres no install theme button, i can see one for icons, splash screen, and emoticons, nothing for windows or styles though
[21:30] <xjjk> frederic_: does the blue screen say anything?
[21:30] <billybigrigger_> josh-l: and theres a few from kde-look i downloaded, but i cant drag and drop them into the appropriate window in appearance
[21:31] <frederic_> xjjk: STOP 0x000000ED UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME
[21:31] <xjjk> frederic_: hrm... that's an odd error...
[21:32] <xjjk> did you install Kubuntu on the same disk or another disk?
[21:34] <frederic_> xjjk: same disk.. other partition and i didn't split the existing windos partition
[21:34] <xjjk> frederic_: have you tried using the Windows recovery console?
[21:34] <frederic_> xjjk: yes, and it can't find any windows drive
[21:35] <xjjk> are you able to mount the partition under Linux?
[21:35] <xjjk> are all the files intact?
[21:35] <frederic_> xjjk: yes
[21:35] <frederic_> xjjk: yes i can mount the windows drive.. how to check if all files are intact?
[21:36] <xjjk> frederic_: if it mounts and your files appear to be there
[21:36] <xjjk> frederic_: if you've not done so already, I'd backup immediately
[21:36] <xjjk> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555302
[21:36] <xjjk> there's a mention of the FS being damaged, which may be the cause here
[21:38] <frederic_> xjjk: ok i'll back up and follow the windows instructions
[21:39] <billybigrigger_> k, how do i remove all of kubuntu-desktop? apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop is only going to free like 50kb
[21:40] <Tids> in 9.04 is there 'apturl' support in konqueror?
[21:58] <login_> loginlinux
[21:58] <pincopallino> salve
[22:04]  * romullo is away: testing away message :)
[22:04]  * romullo is away: testing away message :)
[22:05] <paolo> irc.oltreirc.net
[22:06] <paolo> ciao
[22:06] <paolo> !list
[22:09] <JuJuBee> Im using kde4.2 kubuntu 8.10 64 bit. I have a nice dual head setup working using xinerama. If I am not connected to a second head, I cannot start into kde, only gnome. Plasma causes a sig11 error (I think that is what it was).
[22:10] <paolo> |list
[22:10] <Guest35086> hello
[22:10] <tacosarecool> oh yeah how do I get a pgp caching in kubuntu?
[22:12] <tacosarecool> I need a pgp cacher in kubuntu so I don't need to go into ubuntu and use the password then get internet then you use kubuntu and you get internet. But then if you let it sleep the internet disconnects from kubuntu and I need to login to ubuntu again.
[22:13] <tacosarecool> anyone?
[22:14] <tacosarecool> anyone?
[22:14] <tacosarecool> anybody there?
[22:15] <tacosarecool> anybody here?
[22:16] <tacosarecool> frederic
[22:17] <tacosarecool> help
[22:19] <tacosarecool> anyone?
[22:20] <tacosarecool> grr
[22:21] <alex__> boa noite
[22:22] <tacosarecool> Is anyone here to help me?
[22:23] <tacosarecool>  I need a pgp cacher in kubuntu so I don't need to go into ubuntu and use the password then get internet then you use kubuntu and you get internet. But then if you let it sleep the internet disconnects from kubuntu and I need to login to ubuntu again.
[22:23] <incorrect> can i get kde4.2 for hardy?
[22:23] <tacosarecool> incorrect do you know this problem?  I need a pgp cacher in kubuntu so I don't need to go into ubuntu and use the password then get internet then you use kubuntu and you get internet. But then if you let it sleep the internet disconnects from kubuntu and I need to login to ubuntu again.
[22:23] <tacosarecool> on a laptop
[22:24] <tacosarecool> ! I need a pgp cacher in kubuntu so I don't need to go into ubuntu and use the password then get internet then you use kubuntu and you get internet. But then if you let it sleep the internet disconnects from kubuntu and I need to login to ubuntu again.
[22:28] <Pirata_30> does anyone here speack spanish?
[22:29] <tacosarecool> !Pirata_30 spanish irc
[22:29] <tacosarecool> !spanish irc
[22:29] <tacosarecool> !spanich
[22:29] <LjL> !es
[22:29] <LjL> !fishing
[22:30] <Pirata_30> ok, I can request for help in spanish
[22:30] <Pirata_30> englesh
[22:30] <Pirata_30> I ned to know how to connect ssh with -o host
[22:31] <paolo> |list
[22:31] <tacosarecool>  I need a pgp cacher in kubuntu so I don't need to go into ubuntu and use the password then get internet then you use kubuntu and you get internet. But then if you let it sleep the internet disconnects from kubuntu and I need to login to ubuntu again.
[22:31] <tacosarecool> nevermind the pgp cacher though
[22:31] <tacosarecool> I'm on laptop right now
[22:32] <tacosarecool> but the ubuntu password screen won't work with kubuntu
[22:38] <p-f> whenever I switch applications or open a menu, the window surface shows distortions like an old tv, is there a magical fix for this?
[22:39] <p-f> I disabled transluency but it didn't help
[22:43] <misticwarrior> hey
[22:43] <misticwarrior> how to do the "pipe" on an us keyboard ?
[22:43] <misticwarrior> when I type |, next to the ], I obtain the ¦
[22:43] <misticwarrior> can anyone help me ?
[22:44] <x_link> Hi!
[22:44] <x_link> I use Kubuntu 8.04 and I have a backports-repo in my sources.list
[22:44] <x_link> I'm trying to help a giy that just converted to Kubuntu
[22:45] <x_link> He's using 8.10, but he doesn't seem to have backport-repo-
[22:45] <x_link> http://www.speedyshare.com/276405375.html
[22:45] <x_link> Shouldn't he have that?
[22:45] <tokeefe> Can I use the open source ATI driver to get the transparent panels and cooler effects in KDE?
[22:46] <gnumm> x_link: he wants backports on ubuntu 8.10?
[22:47] <x_link> gnumm: I told him to remove # from backports. So that he can install KDE 4.2
[22:47] <tokeefe> When I click on "Enable Desktop Effects" in the Desktop panel it just says "check your xorg.conf"
[22:47] <x_link> Cause I just helped another guy with the same thing and it worked.
[22:47] <tokeefe> Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[22:49] <gnumm> so he uses kde4.1 actually?
[22:49] <tokeefe> What is XRender?
[22:49] <x_link> Yes
[22:49] <tokeefe> I can enable some effects when I switch to XRender as the Compositing type
[22:49] <Jemidon> Hi, I"m trying to upgrade my kubuntu...as i'm on 7.04. However I'm having difficulties adding repositories to upgrade? anyone got any ideas?
[22:49] <jamesjedimaster> misticwarrior: the pipe is in the shift+\ but depends totally on the keyboard; on desktop usually it's near to backspace, on laptop it could be next to Enter
[22:50] <x_link> Jemidon: I think it's better that you get a fresh re-install.
[22:50] <x_link> But that's just my opinion.
[22:50] <x_link> Jemidon: Which version do you want to upgrade to?
[22:50] <x_link> 8.04 år 8.10?
[22:50] <x_link> or
[22:50] <misticwarrior> jamesjedimaster: I see the button, but when I press it it writes ¦ instead of |
[22:50] <gnumm> x_link: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[22:50] <gnumm> why is it possible that ubuntu hardy is LTS and Kubuntu hrady not?
[22:51] <gnumm> i mean they are both connected to the same repos
[22:51] <Jemidon> 8.04 preferably
[22:52] <x_link> gnumm: Isn't there just I repo I can tell him to add manualy?
[22:52] <gnumm> in this link it is explained how to enable backports
[22:53] <x_link> gnumm: I want him to do it through the terminal. So that he learns how it works.
[22:53] <x_link> But sure...thanks anyway.
[22:54] <gnumm> even the terminal is not the "real" way a pc works ;)
[22:55] <x_link> I know.
[22:55] <x_link> But sure.
[22:55] <x_link> gnumm: Thanks
[22:57] <ncfi1013> i can't see my cursor arrow. what do i do?
[22:58] <tokeefe> Should I use XRender?
[22:58] <tokeefe> Seems slow
[23:01] <tokeefe> Can anyone see me?
[23:01] <tokeefe> :)
[23:03] <olorin12> I see you
[23:03] <tokeefe> Do you know which is preferred? OpenGL or XRender
[23:03] <tokeefe> I don't even know the difference
[23:04] <olorin12> me neither
[23:04] <tokeefe> I just see my CPU climb when I move a window around
[23:04] <olorin12> I would assume OpenGL since I've never heard of XRender but you prolly need the closed source binaries from ATI
[23:05] <tokeefe> I have desktop effects on and using XRender
[23:05] <tokeefe> I mean, will desktop effects fall back on your CPU
[23:05] <olorin12> that's a good ?  when I installed desktop effects were enabled by default w/o the driver
[23:05] <tincho__> hi, can someone tell me how to update my kubuntu intrepid to jaunty?
[23:06] <tokeefe> I'm trying to use the open source driver
[23:06] <tokeefe> since the closed source driver causes problems w/ hibernate
[23:06] <olorin12> didn't know that
[23:07] <tincho__> hey, can someone tell me how to update my kubuntu intrepid to jaunty?
[23:07] <ncfi1013> i cant see my cursor arrow. what do i do
[23:08] <tokeefe> Should my CPU climb when I move windows around? I don;t know if this means it's not seeing my GPU
[23:10] <olorin12> tincho go to console and type "update-manager -d"
[23:10] <olorin12> tokeefe what kind of cpu and graphics card
[23:10] <tincho__> i did it, but it seems to be uninstalled
[23:10] <tokeefe> The graphics card is a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670
[23:10] <olorin12> lol well then I don't know how
[23:11] <tincho__> i installed kubuntu intrepid some minutes ago
[23:11] <tincho__> should i install update-manager by apt-get?
[23:11] <tokeefe> CPU is a Centrino 2 - 2.4 GHZ (2 core)
[23:11] <Jemidon> I just added repositories and now my adept manager won't load
[23:11] <tokeefe> brand new laptop
[23:11] <tokeefe> The Radeon card is 512MB
[23:11] <olorin12> yeah try that tincho
[23:12] <tincho__> thx!
[23:12] <olorin12> np
[23:12] <Jemidon> nvm
[23:12] <Jemidon> still trying to upgrade to the next version, but i'm having issues adding repositories
[23:13] <tokeefe> Just seems like when I go to drag a window it kind of lags
[23:13] <tokeefe> for a split seconds
[23:13] <olorin12> tokeefe  I would think that you might want to try to install the closed source driver and also install kpowermanager.  then go to your System Settings and find the power settings and make it to where your laptop doesn't hibernate - maybe just suspends to ram
[23:14] <tokeefe> Some of that might have been cuz I was on battery power ;)
[23:14] <tokeefe> just plugged in
[23:14] <olorin12> lol  you might have been on a 'dynamic' cpu setting    I change mine to performance cuz my lappy's always plugged in
[23:15] <tokeefe> Seems a little better but I have a cPU monitor open and when I drag my firefox window it climbs up.... I would think the GPU would handle this
[23:15] <tokeefe> no?
[23:15] <olorin12> yeah
[23:15] <olorin12> crud  gtg  good luck w/ that
[23:17] <tokeefe> Looks good though
[23:17] <tokeefe> I mean, the acceleration
[23:18] <tokeefe> I wish I knew where my GPU was
[23:18] <tokeefe> I can feel something heat up
[23:20] <p-f> er, why is the default /etc/X11/xorg.conf so empty? I have next to nothing in mine, only Identifier lines.
[23:33] <Dragnslcr> p-f- a lot of it is autodetected now
[23:41] <ncfi1013> i cant see my mouse cursor. what do i do?
[23:41] <p-f> Dragnslcr: autodetected by what? Xorg itself?
[23:45] <x_link> Hi
[23:45] <x_link> Leave the following dependencies  unresolved:
[23:45] <x_link> kdebase-workspace-bin recommends dontzap
[23:45] <x_link> What should I pick ther?
[23:46] <x_link> Did a sudo aptitude safe-upgrade.
[23:47] <Dragnslcr> p-f- not sure exactly what process, but I would guess it would be X, yeah
[23:47] <x_link> Dragnslcr: Should I choose "x"?
[23:53] <GentooJohnny> question, is there a bug in KDE 4.1 that prevents the task tray icons from displaying correctly if at all?
[23:55] <GentooJohnny> because as of right now there are NO task tray icons displayed even though I have a few of them
[23:57] <GentooJohnny> does anyone know?
[23:57] <Dragnslcr> Do you have a System Tray widget on the panel?
[23:58] <GentooJohnny> of course
[23:58] <GentooJohnny> it allows me to move it but its not displaying any icons
[23:59] <Dragnslcr> Dunno. I've been using 4.2 for a while now
[23:59] <GentooJohnny> and now after I move the icon tray it redisplays the icons but they don't resize correctly
[23:59] <nashk> Hmm, is there some bug with the amarok2 podcast interface? I can't seem to be to move them to my ipod. No option for copy after I download them.
[23:59] <GentooJohnny> 4.2 have any problems with widgets?