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olycan some one tell me how i can get a jaunty package ?01:26
olyi am after https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pythonmagick01:26
olyits currently broken but wanted to download and attempt to fix01:27
olybut not sure where i get the deb from01:27
poolieoly: you should be able to do 'apt-get source pythonmagick'01:27
olylol, thats cool but confused me a little01:29
olyi was expecting to get a deb file, and just modify the files in the tar file01:30
olybeacuase its just complaining about a version miss match01:30
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maco"bzr push lp:~maco.m/seahorse-plugins" tells me that ~maco.m isnt a valid project name instead of telling me i need a branch name on the end of it04:44
spivjml: ^04:44
macothat's not a very intuitive error message04:44
thumper:)04:45
* jml is hip deep in this code *right* *now*04:45
spivjml: good thing I interrupted you then ;)04:46
maco#ubuntuforums people were like "did you commit?  did you do bzr launchpad-login? did you spell the username right?"04:46
jmlmaco: yeah, that does kind of suck04:46
maco(the answer the last one was "no" the first time i tried, but anyway....)04:47
jmlmaco: so, the thing is we allow lp:foo/bar to refer to the branch associated with a project's release series.04:47
macoso catch the ~04:47
jmlmaco: our error handling could and should be smart enough to notice the ~04:47
jmlmaco: hey look at that :)04:48
macoi didnt get dibs on "maco" on launchpad quickly enough04:48
jmlmaco: anyway, I'll file a bug about it.04:48
macothanks04:49
jmlhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/34573204:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 345732 in launchpad-bazaar "'bzr push lp:~foo/bar' gives unhelpful error message" [Medium,In progress]04:50
macothanks04:52
macosubscribed04:52
johnjosephbachirGood evening.05:02
johnjosephbachirAre there public urls for branches hosted on launchpad, where the user is not required to have a launchpad account to get code?05:05
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: hey there05:17
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: :-)05:17
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: I thought branches were public and anon-accessible by default.  Is that not what you're seeing?05:18
johnjosephbachirkfogel: hey karl05:18
macoshould just be "bzr branch lp:project/branch"05:19
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: good to see you.  My conversation may be halting, as I am in an important co-debugging session with someone in another channel.05:19
johnjosephbachirhmm. well i just created a branch and pushed it to LP, and then wanted to test out the experience of retrieving it from another machine, and i'm getting some odd errors -- but the oddest thing is that the version of bzr on the other machine is 1.6.1.... which makes no sense (i thought the newest was 1.13?)05:19
kfogel("important" == "they're donating their time to my non-profit, so I can't make them wait")05:19
kfogeloh05:20
johnjosephbachirkfogel: gotcha-- have fun : )05:20
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: couple of things going on here:05:20
kfogelSo, one, bzr releases are frequent, so it's not at all unusual to see 1.6 installed05:20
kfogelthat was only about 6 months ago05:20
kfogelSecond, there is a known bug whereby after pushing a branch to LP, the LP UI may not show it right away (takes time to catch up), although it *should* be available via bzr right away.05:21
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: if those two facts don't explain what you're experiencing, then let's dig deeper.05:21
macouh...i did have a problem where a branch said "empty" for months after it was pushed to, but it was still branchable. dunno if that was ever fixed. there's a bug somewhere05:21
johnjosephbachirkfogel maco: feel silly over here.. i forgot that it was versioning, and not math. i thought that 1.13 was smaller than 1.6 .....05:22
macoah05:22
johnjosephbachirand my branch uses the newest format (super duper tree pack 1.9 or something)... so maybe i need to have the newest client?05:22
johnjosephbachiror is that only relevant to each repository05:23
macoyep05:23
macothat's very likely it05:23
johnjosephbachirOkay.05:23
johnjosephbachirthanks05:23
macoi sometimes think the reason ubuntu uses .04 instead of .4 is to avoid people thinking of math05:23
macosince .4 would be newer than .10...in math05:23
johnjosephbachiryep...05:23
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: yeah, bzr has some ... non-optimal inter-version compat behaviors right now, unfortunately.05:24
macoby which you mean being told to go update or no soup for you, right?05:24
kfogelthe latest versions of bzr have vastly improved storage, but it comes at the cost of incompat with earlier versions, which (especially when you're not using "smart server") can actually mean things not working together05:24
johnjosephbachirOk. Well I'll just blame my crappy distro for not caring enough about launchpad. (Ubuntu... err...)05:25
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: :-)05:26
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: I just run bleeding-edge bzr all the time05:27
kfogeljohnjosephbachir: I think I owe you another mail with revctrl thoughts, btw -- sorry for the delay, this non-profit thing is taking off, but it's still not paying, which means I have to do it at night.05:27
johnjosephbachirkfogel: no prob. we can just talk about it over beer, i'll be in the city in early april05:29
kfogel!05:29
kfogelgreat, let's do that then05:29
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kfogeljohnjosephbachir, mac: ah, found it: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/9428906:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 94289 in launchpad-bazaar "branch page delay in showing writes to a branch" [Medium,Triaged]06:33
macojohnjosephbachir: i do often wonder why bzr updates arent SRU'd in ubuntu06:39
wgrantmaco: Because that would be playing favourites.06:45
wgrantjohnjosephbachir: You can 'bzr upgrade --1.6 lp:~path/to/branch' to get it readable by >= 1.6, with only a small performance hit.06:45
macowgrant: but if you're developing for that release...06:45
wgrantmaco: Then use a format compatible with that release, I suppose.06:45
wgrantHopefully the format will stabilise soon.06:46
wgrantRather than being bumped every 0.306:46
macoheh well i know dtchen's running hardy06:46
macoim guessing he grabbed jaunty's source package and ran it through pbuilder though06:46
wgrant~bzr's default PPA has it for all supported releases except Dapper, IIRC.06:47
wgrantThat's one solution, but the other is to just keep using older formats.06:48
thumpermaco: actually the SRU thing has been talked about07:14
thumperdamn timing07:14
wgrantthumper: That was perfect!07:25
CokeAny chance of launchpad getting support for adding attachments to answers and/or bugs? Also, there was talk sometime June last year about adding screenshots to the project main page, last comment is really old and I cannot find it in any feature request or ongoing bug.07:29
cody-somervilleCoke, both are possible now07:29
Cokecody-somerville: ?!07:31
CokeSounds awesome.07:31
cody-somervilleIndeed07:31
CokeSo, I can add an image as attachment to an answer?07:31
CokeBecause, what I really want is to demonstrate the result of the project and since there's no way to put up screenshots for the project I thought I'd just put it in an answer.07:32
cody-somervilleYou can't upload files to answers but you can bugs07:33
CokeDidn't you say "both"?07:34
CokeWhat else is possible aside from uploading to bugs?07:34
cody-somervilleYou can upload an image to the project's frontpage07:35
wgrant(bug attachments have been possible for many years)07:36
wgrantcody-somerville: NAFAIK07:36
wgrantUnless you mean the mugshot.07:36
Cokecody-somerville: do you mean the logo?07:36
cody-somervilleYea07:36
cody-somervillea number of projects use it for a screenshot07:36
Cokehmmmm07:37
CokeMeh. I'm rather unimpressed. :)07:37
johnjosephbachirwgrant: thanks07:57
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bigjoolswgrant: did you file a bug about the oops you generated on the gnome-panel page?10:19
wgrantbigjools: No, sorry.11:13
bigjoolswgrant: np I filed one11:13
bigjoolsI h8 unicode11:13
wgrantbigjools: Thanks.11:13
wgrantWhat was the problematic content?11:13
bigjoolsrecent gnome-panel releases11:13
bigjoolsthe binary package description has unicode in it11:14
wgrantHow come that didn't break prod?11:14
bigjoolsit does :)11:14
wgrantbigjools: I can access the same URL but on production, and it doesn't OOPS.11:15
bigjoolsah that's interesting11:15
bigjoolsthat helps me know what the problem is then, thanks11:15
wgrantThe pages look identical on both versions for other SPRs.11:16
wgranthttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/1:2.26.0-0ubuntu3 works, see.11:16
wgranthttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/1:2.26.0-0ubuntu3 does not.11:16
bigjoolsyep11:16
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BigMusclehello. I have again problems with BZR revision view: Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.12:15
BigMuscleURLs are:12:15
BigMusclehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dcplusplus-team/dcplusplus/trunk/revision/169512:15
BigMusclehttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dcplusplus-team/dcplusplus/trunk/revision/169412:15
BigMusclethanks for resolving :-)12:15
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AnAntHello13:18
noodles775Hi AnAnt :)13:19
AnAntcan someone solve the question 62612 ?13:19
* noodles775 looks13:21
noodles775Hi herb ! Would you be able to take a look at AnAnt's question?13:26
noodles775https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6261213:26
noodles775spm commented on it at the start of the month, but AnAnt can't move forward with the changes of names/lists until it's done.13:28
herbnoodles775: I should be able to get to that soon.13:31
AnAntthanks13:32
noodles775Great... thanks herb.13:32
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fta3hi15:20
fta3https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/6238615:20
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noodles775Sorry herb, do you know why fta3's ppa quota got set back to 3gb (from 7)?15:29
noodles775https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/6238615:29
herbnoodles775: I don't know why. I'll set it 5GB as the user requested.15:35
noodles775Thanks herb15:35
fta3thanks15:36
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calcwho do i ask to have my quota increased?16:14
calci need to be bumped up to 4GB from 2GB16:14
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calccprov: istr it was you?16:15
calcactually 5GB should give me enough room to not need to ask again during karmic cycle16:17
* calc needs the bump on the openoffices-pkgs ppa (not his personal one)16:18
noodles775Hi calc: add a question like this one:16:18
noodles775https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/6431616:18
calcnoodles775: ok16:18
noodles775and it'll get assigned to an admin.16:18
calcok16:18
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calcok i ended up just reopening old question as it appears they didn't actually bump my quota like had been mentioned in it16:23
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jpdsIs there a way I can cancel a merge proposal?17:26
jpdsOh, there's a delete button, neat.17:26
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kfogelHey, I'm scouting around for interesting uses of the Launchpad APIs (usually via launchpadlib).  If anyone knows any off the top of their had, make a noise at me now please.18:42
intellectronicakfogel: BjornT has a really nice script that generates pages like https://dev.launchpad.net/VersionThreeDotO/Bugs/Progress/2.2.318:46
kfogelintellectronica: thank you18:47
intellectronicakfogel: it's also worth asking bdmurray and thekorn18:47
kfogelintellectronica: I'm going to ask Bjorn if he can make that script link to itself where the generated output says "generated by a script".  That way people can quickly figure out how to do it themselves.18:48
kfogeloooooh18:48
kfogelintellectronica: that one is nice for screenshots, thx18:48
kfogelintellectronica: heh, thekorn was already on my list of people to ask, nice to have my worldview confirmed.  Didn't know about bdmurray.18:50
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stousignant1is there a reason why i can't make a search in the global bugs list in the api of launchpad ?19:14
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intellectronicastousignant1: it's just not something the model currently support easily, and we never thought of a compelling use case.19:19
intellectronicastousignant1: what's yours?19:19
stousignant1search all bug that a certain team have subscribed19:20
stousignant1since our teams does a lot of general service, we can report bug in various project19:20
stousignant1so it would be a lot easier to search all bugs for a certain subscriber19:21
intellectronicastousignant1: searching bugs for a person (or team) is something that we do want to support at some point. that's a lot more specific than searching all projects. alas, not yet19:23
intellectronicastousignant1: see bug #28217819:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 282178 in malone "Make IPerson an IHasBugs and make sure calling searchTasks on it works" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28217819:24
stousignant1intellectronica: thank for the information, that exactly what i'm looking for. Any time frame we could see this bugs resolved ?19:26
intellectronicastousignant1: to be honest, i doubt that we'll be able able to schedule this before the summer. but it's good to know that people need this - we'll definitely consider part of the future wishlist19:27
stousignant1intellectronica: i'll subscribe my team to this bug and see what happen, Otherwise i'll need to iter every project in launchpad to get a hold of all the bugs we are subscribed and we don't want this overhead.19:29
radix`anyone have an idea why this vcs import is failing? https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/peppy/trunk19:30
intellectronicastousignant1: yes, i realise that can be tiresome and resource-intensive. feel free to also mark yourself as affected19:30
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calcis there a way to see everything i am subscribed to and why?20:10
kikocalc, grep ^X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale from your mboxes is one way..20:15
calckiko: ok20:28
calckiko: i didn't know if there was a way to do that on launchpad via the user profile area20:29
kikocalc, there isn't a /gloooobal/ page for it20:31
calckiko: ok20:33
kikocalc, one of the post-july things that's high on the list -- global subscriptions20:33
CameronShorter_Hi, I'm despot of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis and am attempting to move from an Open to a Closed project, and in the process, I want to remove members who are not actively involved (and suggest they move to our external email list). But I can't work out how to remove members.20:34
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calckiko: cool :)20:43
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oubiwannhey guys, can someone approve my membership in the lp beta testers team?21:08
beunooubiwann, done21:19
oubiwannbeuno: thanks, man!21:20
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twcookMy connection died during a push and now there is a lock in place.  When I try to use break-lock according to the output; I get an unsupported protocol error.  Any ideas?21:56
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twcookThe error is: bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "lp-45951632:///~oship-mgmt/oship/main/.bzr/branch/lock"22:00
wgranttwcook: Remove the -4595163222:00
wgrantbzr break-lock lp:~oship-mgmt/oship/main22:00
twcookwgrant: Thanks22:01
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sayakbhello! is there a way that a team owner can remove a member from membership without getting the user listed under "deactivated" list?22:20
wgrantsayakb: No, unfortunately.22:20
sayakbwgrant: oh! :(22:21
sayakbty22:21
beunomaybe we should just rename that to "people I hate"22:21
beunoor22:21
beunonot expose it so prominently on the UI22:21
sayakbbeuno: pfft.. I am deactivating myself22:22
beunobecause it's pretty useless information in general22:22
sayakb+122:22
beunoso22:22
beunoif someone files a bug22:22
wgrantOr "people of whom I mistyped the username so never really wanted to add them at all, so get them the hell of my team page"22:22
beunoI'll make sure that gets done22:22
wgrantIt's also great that the team page says 'inactive members'.22:22
wgrantThey're not members, and even if they were, how does it know that they're inactive?22:22
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sayakbbeuno: I'd file a bug report. should it belong to registry?22:23
wgrantYes.22:23
sayakbcool22:23
beunook guys22:24
beunoI'll miss you22:24
beunobut I'm off to my weekend22:24
wgrantbeuno: Noooo!22:24
wgrantBye.22:24
sayakbo/22:24
beunowgrant, I'll be thinking UI though, don't worry22:24
sayakbhave a nice weekend22:24
beunoyou guys have fun22:24
beunothanks22:24
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sayakbbeuno: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/34614822:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 346148 in launchpad-registry "Deactivated members should not be prominently listed" [Undecided,New]22:34
* sayakb catches some zzz22:37
nhandlerbeuno: I personally would not remove that feature all together. It sometimes is very useful being able to see who the old members of a team are. But maybe moving it off of the +members page would be better22:38
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