[00:21] <dtchen_> greg-g: sorry, that ETA was optimistic. i lost three hours due to a incorrect wiki entry.
[00:21] <dtchen_> an incorrect*
[00:21] <dtchen_> (now fixed, of course)
[00:34] <greg-g> dtchen_: no worries
[00:35] <greg-g> dtchen_: so, after last night, I have no sound, is there a way to make apt reinstall the sound modules?
[00:37] <Hobbsee> greg-g: my favorite solution to that is to delete ~/.pulse-cookie, and restart X.
[00:38] <Hobbsee> and then see if you have sound
[00:39] <greg-g> Hobbsee: I can try that, but I'm not hopeful considering everything I did last night
[00:39] <Hobbsee> greg-g: ahhh
[00:39]  * Hobbsee is unaware of what happened last night
[00:40] <dtchen_> greg-g: aptitude reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r)
[00:40] <dtchen_> or apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[00:40] <greg-g> testing new sound modules built by dtchen_, involved rm -rf sound/ under lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic
[00:40] <dtchen_> correction: /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/
[00:41] <greg-g> right :)
[00:43] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[02:36] <dtchen> greg-g: ETA 7 mins
[02:39] <greg-g> dtchen: /me nods.
[02:44] <dtchen> greg-g: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~dtchen/
[02:47] <greg-g> one sec, phone
[02:49] <greg-g> dtchen: just gotta dpkg it? no depmods or anything?
[02:50] <dtchen> correct
[02:50] <greg-g> cool.
[02:51] <dtchen> if you're curious, you're running http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=dtchen/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/pcm
[02:55] <greg-g> wow, bleeding edge, 4 hours ago
[02:55] <greg-g> correction, 3.
[03:02] <greg-g> installed, restarting, testing.
[03:11] <greg-g> dtchen: dude, you're a rockstar, it isn't crashing under the same test circumstances I used before
[03:12] <dtchen> greg-g: ok, and this is with the shipped /etc/pulse/default.pa ?
[03:12] <dtchen> i.e., with glitch-free disabled (you'll see load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0)
[03:13] <greg-g> dtchen: correct.
[03:13] <dtchen> excellent.
[03:13] <dtchen> thanks very much for testing; i'll dent for more testers now
[03:13] <greg-g> yay!
[03:14] <greg-g> thank you very much for being on top of it.
[03:14] <tranceenergyUSA> how long it takes to configure it and how does the interface compare to windows xp
[03:15] <greg-g> not long, and better.
[03:16] <tranceenergyUSA> what about the hassle of not having standard tools
[03:19] <greg-g> tranceenergyUSA: that depends on the situation.
[03:20] <greg-g> tranceenergyUSA: also, a better channel for this discussion would be #ubuntu-us or your Local Community team's channel, but #ubuntu-us is fine for now.
[03:22] <tranceenergyUSA> cool
[03:22] <tranceenergyUSA> thanks
[03:22] <tranceenergyUSA> folks
[05:05] <CarlFK> python-twisted is already the newest version.
[05:05] <CarlFK> >>> import twisted
[05:05] <CarlFK> ImportError: No module named twisted
[05:06] <CarlFK> that happened after apt-get upgrade
[05:08] <jmarsden> CarlFK: Check the output of    dpkg -s python-twisted   # and also    dpkg -L python-twisted  # maybe?  Do they look sane?
[05:12] <CarlFK> jmarsden: http://dpaste.com/16801/
[05:12] <CarlFK> juser@cp333:~$ python -c "import sys;print sys.path"
[05:12] <CarlFK> ['', '/usr/lib/python26.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.6', '/usr/lib/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages', '/var/lib/python-support/python2.6', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages']
[05:13] <jmarsden> Hmmm.... you've got a Python that only looks in explicitly "2.6" places for libraries?
[05:13] <CarlFK> seems that way
[05:15] <jmarsden> I wonder if you need some special python-twisted for 2.6??  I'm not expert enough on the recent/current python transition to 2.6 to help with that.
[05:17] <CarlFK> juser@cp333:/usr/lib/python2.6$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/twisted
[05:18] <CarlFK> lets see how well that works out...
[05:18] <CarlFK> ImportError: No module named zope.interface
[05:18] <CarlFK> swell.
[05:22] <jmarsden> Sounds like the whole python transition think just "got" you somehow...
[05:23] <jmarsden> You could try asking in #ubuntu-motu in case there is someone there who really knows all about the python 2.6 transition and what state it is in...?
[05:23] <jmarsden> But it's not really a support channel...
[06:07] <dholbach> good morning
[06:15] <mrooney> dholbach: morning again :)
[06:15] <mrooney> about bed time for me
[06:15] <dholbach> hi mrooney
[06:21] <YoBoY> yo
[08:17] <dominiks> hey, im reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase/Classes/Triaging right now.. and there is "Assigning bugs to the proper package." as one of the tasks for bug triaging
[08:21] <dominiks> how can I assign correct package to bug.. when I'm not member of Bug Control team please?
[08:26] <rww> dominiks: click the down arrow to the left of the entry in the "Affects" column in the table at the top of the report, then type the package name under "Package", or click "(Choose...)" for a search box. Fill out any other changes, then click "Save Changes". That works for me, and I'm not in the bugcontrol team.
[08:28] <dominiks> thanks :)
[08:29] <dominiks> i wasn't logged in Launchpad.. what a shame :p
[10:55] <Tuxist> hi
[10:56] <Tuxist> i have a problem with nfs and heimdal https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/343897
[10:56] <Tuxist> have anybody a solution for my problem ?
[10:58] <BUGabundo> Tuxist: from what I've read
[10:58] <BUGabundo> nfs is broken in many places
[10:59] <Tuxist> i can't mount keberos crypted volumes
[10:59] <sbeattie> Tuxist: with nfsv4 on linux, don't you have to set fsid in /etc/exports?
[10:59] <Tuxist> no
[10:59] <Tuxist> it's is recomment ?
[11:04] <Tuxist> i have set fsid=0 whis no change of my problem
[11:06] <sbeattie> are you able to get nfsv4 working without heimdal?
[11:07] <sbeattie> what mount command did you issue?
[11:07] <Tuxist> http://pastebin.com/m420e815c
[11:09] <sbeattie> if you do 'mount -t nfs4 -o rw,sec=krb5p nfs.wehrwolf.local: /home' manually, does that work?
[11:10] <Tuxist> http://pastebin.com/m519e05ac
[11:11] <Tuxist> same error
[11:12] <Tuxist> pam ldap runs perfect only problems with nfs
[11:12] <sbeattie> and you had set fsid=0 in /etc/exports for /export/users on the server side and restarted the nfs daemons?
[11:13] <sbeattie> does it work without encryption? i.e. does 'mount -t nfs4 -o rw nfs.wehrwolf.local: /home' work?
[11:13] <Tuxist> it runs now thanks
[11:14] <Tuxist> i have forgotten to restart nfs-common
[11:17] <sbeattie> well, bah, I was going to (a) congratulate Tuxist and (b) ask him/her to close the bug, since it's working.
[11:29] <Tuxist> same issue after restart
[11:33] <Tuxist> nfs and heimdal
[12:42] <sectech> Crap... an update broke my sound.
[12:43] <sectech> Have we been getting any pulseaudio issues within the last 24 hours?
[12:47] <BUGabundo> sectech: yes
[12:47] <BUGabundo> know prob
[12:47] <BUGabundo> I gets fixed and the next update breaks it
[12:47] <BUGabundo> dan has a kernel patch for 64bits on his kernel repo
[12:48] <sectech> Ahhh... ok...  <cancels report>
[12:48] <sectech> do you have a link?
[12:48] <sectech> I know quite a few Dans
[12:55] <sectech> was it an actual pulseaudio regression? I could always revert back to the previous version
[12:55] <BUGabundo> sectech: try https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330814
[12:55] <BUGabundo> remember that not all audio bugs are dupes!
[12:56] <BUGabundo> sectech: I tried it after yesterday update
[12:56] <BUGabundo> without much luck!
[12:56] <sectech> I guess we can expect a lot of these report within the next little bit then
[12:57] <sectech> This is actually an intrepid system too
[12:58] <sectech> Lets see if this test kernel works
[13:03] <sectech> nopee...
[14:22] <sectech> Okay someone stating that a bug has been fixed in a future release is not really sufficient when the issue is in the current release.
[14:22] <sectech> It's great that the audio problem is fixed in Jaunty but intrepid is our current release and even if it wasn't it still is supported
[14:37] <Ampelbein> sectech: When something is fixed in jaunty and the fix is important: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure . If the bug is minor and a backport is possible: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#request-new-packages
[14:47] <sectech> Ampelbein, I don't actually have the patch though, the triager just set it to fix released with just the explanation that it was fixed in jaunty.
[14:50] <Ampelbein> sectech: bug 330814?
[14:52] <sectech> Ahh there we go...that's the original one.
[15:44] <bddebian> Boo
[15:44] <BUGabundo> foo
[15:44] <dominiks> moo
[15:44] <thekorn_> bar
[15:46] <bddebian> :)
[15:52] <dominiks> BugSquad noob question: How to triag bug, which was resolved by his reporter himself please?
[15:53] <bdmurray> dominiks: was it a configuration issue or something else?
[15:53] <dominiks> bdmurray: yes
[15:54] <BUGabundo> oii
[15:54] <BUGabundo> bddebian: 4x ?
[15:54] <bdmurray> dominiks: in that case Invalid may be the best choice
[15:54] <bdmurray> You can check http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status for guidance
[15:54] <dominiks> bdmurray: ok, thanks a lot for help
[15:58] <dominiks> one more question.. after "invalidating" such bug.. it won't be googleable anymore right? in such case.. maybe it should go to FAQ's of some kind of knowledge base.. for other user's reference..
[15:59] <bddebian> BUGabundo: ?
[16:03] <greg-g> dominiks: what is the bug number?
[16:04] <dug_> could anyone mark this as high priority, was hoping it would be corrected before jaunty release, thanks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/291135
[16:04] <dominiks> greg-g: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/292805
[16:07] <greg-g> bdmurray: would something like that bug (misdetected keyboard by kernel) be something to report against the kernel? It seems that since there is that config option they know the issue fairly well and might not be able to work around it.
[16:08]  * greg-g goes to get lunch
[16:09] <dominiks> bdmurray: yes, you are right
[16:12] <BUGabundo> bddebian: you now have 3 echos!
[16:20] <bddebian> BUGabundo: Ah nice :)
[16:20] <BUGabundo> Pici: you are lucky that "newnick" is not taken eheh
[16:21] <Pici> BUGabundo: I was surprised
[16:27] <BUGabundo> Pici: actually freenode and other networks should have some nicks reserved for that very purpose
[17:19] <dominiks> Could somebody please set importance level to Wishlist for bug 345857? I wasn't able to do it myself... thanks.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/345857
[17:20] <BUGabundo> who can I nag for bug 268727?
[17:20] <BUGabundo> need it to fix bug 335507
[17:21] <sbeattie> dominiks: done, thanks.
[17:23] <dominiks> sbeattie: thank you
[18:02] <greg-g> BUG... grrr
[19:06] <bdmurray> mrooney: if you made a ppa of the patch for bug 310551 can you add a debdiff for sponsoring too?
[19:23] <mrooney> bdmurray: I can if you think it has value, although the commenter said he was going to patch debian and sync
[19:25] <bdmurray> mrooney: its up to you, he is the upstream developer so will probably get it done
[19:48] <dominiks> Could somebody please set importance level to Wishlist for bug 345175? I wasn't able to do it myself... thanks.
[19:49] <charlie-tca> done
[19:49] <charlie-tca> Thanks for helping, dominiks
[19:50] <dominiks> charlie-tca: thank you
[19:50] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:59] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: it would have happened automatically
[20:00] <charlie-tca> yeah? I didn't know that was set up now.
[20:00] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: yes, if something is tagged needs-packaging it'll get wishlisted automatically
[20:00] <dominiks> oh.. i didn't know it either.. thanks for info
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Thanks for that info. Things just get better and better.
[21:26] <amishgandhi> hi
[21:26] <amishgandhi> I installed ubuntu 8.10 and am having a problem with internet download speed
[21:26] <amishgandhi> it is very slow
[21:29] <BUGabundo> amishgandhi: check ipv6 bug
[21:29] <BUGabundo> on launchpad
[21:29] <BUGabundo> for more help, please go to #ubuntu channel
[21:29] <BUGabundo> that is more oriented for user help
[21:29] <BUGabundo> thanks
[22:11] <paul_> anybody here with some c (and possibly lesstif) knowledge. I can prevent bug 124573 from happening (in nedit) but only by reversing an upstream patch of 4.5 years ago.
[22:13] <paul_> The issue is also upstream at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1578451&group_id=8596&atid=108596 but upstream is nearly dead
[22:13] <dtchen> paul_: if you'll generate a patch, we can get it into jaunty.
[22:13] <paul_> the patch is rather small
[22:13] <paul_> it is in sourceforge
[22:13] <paul_> ^^
[22:13] <dtchen> sf is blocked here
[22:13] <paul_> but I am not sure it is really clean
[22:14] <paul_> wait a moment
[22:16] <dtchen> ok, i see it
[22:16] <dtchen> yay for horkarounds
[22:16] <dtchen> go ahead and submit it, please
[22:17] <paul_> I attached it to the bug report (bug 124573)
[22:18] <paul_> dtchen: can you have a look at it? Would appreciate some feedback.
[22:18] <dtchen> i will later tonight
[22:18] <paul_> ok, please comment in the bug tracker than, I am nearly going to bed.
[22:19] <dtchen> ok, ping me tomorrow if i haven't.
[22:19] <paul_> ok
[22:21] <paul_> just for your knowledge, I am also preparing a NMU for lesstif for Debian, solving some other issues as well
[22:21] <paul_> basically giving some love to lesstif
[22:22] <dtchen> great, syncs are good
[22:36] <barberio> Hi. Anyone else want to confirm that the latest builds of python2.6-minimal have been built without zlib?
[22:36] <barberio> At least, on Jaunty they have.
[22:38] <bdmurray> barberio: How could someone test that?
[22:39] <barberio> Check to see if something that runs against python2.6 fails because of lack of zlib support?
[22:42] <sbeattie> barberio: do you have a specific example? That would help.
[22:42] <barberio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/346123
[22:43] <barberio> deluge fails on start complaining about missing zlib. Poking around the python2.6 installed, it seems like there is no zlib support there.
[22:52] <bdmurray> sbeattie: are you testing it?
[22:57] <barberio> I *think* 2.6.1-1ubuntu3 was working fine, and had the expected zlib functions. Any way to compare the files that were in that package, with the ones in the current package, to see if there's obviously a missing ext or mod?
[22:57] <bdmurray> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24106595/python2.6_2.6.1-1ubuntu3_2.6.1-1ubuntu4.diff.gz
[22:58] <bdmurray> from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6
[23:00] <barberio> That's changes in the source, not changes in the product binary packages.
[23:01] <barberio> Ah. Luckily, I still have the apt cache file.
[23:04] <barberio> Nope. ubuntu3 lacks a zlib extention too.
[23:06] <thekorn> really? I've a fresh install from today here, deluged is working and python -c "import zlib" too
[23:07] <barberio> Which binary platform?
[23:08] <thekorn> barberio, i386
[23:09] <barberio> That's very odd.
[23:09]  * barberio checks around some more.
[23:09] <barberio> Okay, -c "import zlib" works out fine here too.
[23:10] <barberio> There must be something damaged in deluged.
[23:10] <thekorn> ok, python -c "import zlib; zlib.compress('boo')" is a better testcase
[23:17] <barberio> Let's try downgrading deluge...
[23:18] <barberio> And now it works
[23:19] <barberio> Now to work out why deluge was throwing errors that made it look like python didn't have zlib support.