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CarlFKdid something change such that I need something else to set language?  locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us01:51
maxagazhi02:13
maxagazcjwatson, thanks for your message yesterday, about the Arabic problem in preseed02:18
maxagazis there someone ?02:33
maxagazonce i've installed hardy using pxe and preseed, my client boots and the keyboard is in something like Arabic02:35
maxagazas it has been reported here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/32807802:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 328078 in console-setup "surprising keyboard choice if not preseeded" [Medium,Triaged]02:36
CarlFKmaxagaz: i seem to be having the same problem02:46
CarlFKmy pxe default file has:02:46
CarlFK append initrd=ubuntu/jaunty/initrd.gz root=/dev/rd/0 rw locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us netcfg/wireless_wep= netcfg/get_hostname= DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 url=http://shaz/ubuntu/jaunty/preseed.cfg tasksel:tasksel/first="ubuntu-desktop"02:47
CarlFKthat worked a few weeks ago, but not today02:47
maxagazmy pxe default is :02:49
maxagazappend vga=normal initrd=ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=en_US netcfg/choose_interface=eth0 netcfg/get_hostname= preseed/url=http://ubuntu.i-xanadu.com/xanadu-preseed.cfg --02:49
CarlFKhmm, let me try en_US ...02:50
CarlFKmaxagaz: well, that seemed to be my problem.  so some good came out of this :)02:55
maxagazCarlFK, you mean you don't have the problem anymore ?02:56
CarlFKwell, I was having a different problem03:00
CarlFKI am just now starting the install03:00
CarlFKmaxagaz: I see something odd03:24
CarlFKdurring the install, I hit Alt-F2, see "hit enter for console..."03:25
CarlFKI hit enter, I get a prompt.  I type "abc" I see "***"03:25
CarlFKwhere * = some diamond char03:25
maxagazCarlFK, during the install, i don't have any question03:36
shtylmanevand: I tried a netboot (took a while to figure out in virtualbox..but ended up super easy), and used the preseed.cfg file the guy had attached...I didn't experience the same sort of problem (used alpha6)03:39
shtylmanI dunno if I replicated everything the same...shrug...ideas?03:39
CarlFKmaxagaz: did you type something in the installers VT ?03:40
shtylmanevand: actually...I lied...I added "d-i console-setup/layoutcode string us" to the preseed file as per the suggestion in the bug03:41
maxagazCarlFK, what's "the installers VT"03:41
shtylmanimma run once without that and see what it does03:41
maxagazi'll check again my install using console-setup/layoutcode=us instead of console-setup/layoutcode=en_US03:41
shtylmanmaxagaz: were you the one having the problem?03:42
maxagazshtylman, my problem is about the Arabic keyboard03:43
shtylmanmaxagaz: right...using the preseed file, after install arabic was the keyboard selected for you..right?03:43
CarlFKmaxagaz:  "the installers VT" is during the install, I hit Alt-F2, see "hit enter for console..."03:44
maxagazshtylman, yes, that's me03:44
maxagazshtylman, i posted a message yesterday as Gilles on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/32807803:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 328078 in console-setup "surprising keyboard choice if not preseeded" [Medium,Triaged]03:44
shtylmanmaxagaz: ok, just so I know :) ... well I ran one install and it worked fine...with that line...im gonna run another without the preseed to confirm the bug03:45
shtylmanand see what I can do about it...hopefully :)03:45
CarlFKshtylman: you get what I am saying about the alt installer's VT?03:45
shtylmanCarlFK: lemme read up some...I just opened the irc window..03:46
CarlFKsame pxe line, before it even loads the preseed (I disconnected the lan). Alt-F2, enter for console, type "abc"at prompt, see "***"03:47
shtylmanCarlFK: before starting the install03:47
shtylmanI switch to VT and type...03:48
shtylmanenglish as normal03:48
shtylmanlemme start the install and try again...03:48
shtylmando you autodetect keyboard layout?03:48
shtylmanor set manually?03:48
CarlFKshtylman: using these kernel parms?  locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=en_US03:48
shtylmanCarlFK: no...lemme put those in and try03:49
CarlFKthose take care of keyboard layout :)03:49
maxagazCarlFK, a late answer... i didn't type anything in the installers VT (by the way, what does VT stands for ?)03:49
shtylmanvirtual terminal03:50
CarlFKVT - Virtual Term... yeah, that03:50
maxagazok03:50
shtylmanCarlFK: maxagaz: behavior confirmed for "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=en_US" as a kernel parameter ... I see ### in the virtual terminal instead of english... but by using "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us" it works03:53
shtylmanevand: ^03:53
shtylmanare yall positive en_US is a valid code still?03:54
CarlFKshtylman: well, I got that from this IRC session :)03:54
CarlFKshtylman: I was using  locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us03:55
shtylmanCarlFK: heh...missed that... :) also...from what I gather en_US is for local, and 'us' is for keyboards03:55
shtylmanso the problem is the ungraceful default when using a non-valid layoutcode03:55
shtylmancjwatson: evand: what is the default when using a layoutcode that is not valid?03:56
CarlFK"locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us" stopped taking care of the keyboard question -  console-setup/layoutcode=en_US  did03:56
shtylmanCarlFK: huh?03:57
CarlFKum03:57
CarlFK(10:48:42 PM) shtylman: do you autodetect keyboard layout?03:58
CarlFKthat implies the installer asks about the keyboard, right?03:58
shtylmanCarlFK: yea...after adding the kernel param it doesn't03:58
CarlFKkinda.03:58
shtylmanCarlFK: I hadn't added the param yet when I asked that03:58
CarlFK2 weeks ago, using "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us" - no keyboard question03:59
CarlFKtoday, those prams, got asked about keyboard03:59
shtylmanusing which netbook tar?03:59
shtylmanalpha6?03:59
shtylmanor current?03:59
CarlFKsaw what maxagaz used, tried that, no keyboard q03:59
CarlFKhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux04:00
shtylmanCarlFK: just pulled latest linux and initrd and ran it with "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us ... result: no keybaord question04:04
CarlFK md5sum linux 93bdff35fdba8a7f547ebb563c3cb3c204:05
CarlFKis mine the same?04:05
CarlFK4140534753c74a27c887ec49c58b20a3  initrd.gz04:05
shtylmanI have different for linux04:05
shtylmanand for initrd04:06
CarlFKwhere did you pull from?04:06
shtylmanthat link04:07
CarlFKwhoops - I didn't md5 the x64 one..04:07
CarlFK3be4c9beea45a3f5ae7bd2a72761234f  initrd.gz04:07
CarlFK42d4d7a9bb1333aff2a1580eddc5aa02  linux04:07
shtylmank... yea04:08
shtylmanran in virtual machine...no keyboard question...04:08
shtylmanand VT's were normal04:08
CarlFKcan you try the x86?04:08
shtylmansure04:09
CarlFKthanks04:09
CarlFKsorry bout that - forgot that my script pulled both04:09
shtylmanCarlFK: no prob.... result: i386 behavior = amd64 behavior -> no keyboard question04:13
CarlFKhuh04:13
shtylmanwhat are you testing with? virtual machines or physical?04:13
CarlFKphysical04:14
shtylmanhttp://shtylman.com/stuff/shtylman.netboot.tar.gz04:15
shtylmanthats a tar of my tftp directory04:16
shtylmanobviously you will need to change the preseed/url in the text.cfg file...but try that out if you want...see what it does04:16
CarlFKshtylman: does your's ask about keyboard ?04:26
shtylmannope04:26
shtylmangoes straight to hostname04:26
shtylmanafter network conf04:26
CarlFKwhich of these files has the kernel/append lines?04:28
CarlFKappend vga=normal initrd=ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us preseed/url=http://192.168.1.105/preseed/preseed.cfg -- quiet04:29
shtylmantext.cfg04:30
shtylmanin the boot-screens04:30
CarlFKyeah - grepped everything04:30
shtylmank04:30
shtylmanwell, im out...if there are more things needing testing, just leave a msg and I will try it tomorrow04:42
CarlFKthanks - im having lan issues...04:42
cjwatsongood grief, that was a vast amount of confusion over a layout code :)09:36
cjwatsonmaxagaz: en_US has never been and will never be a valid keyboard layout code; it's a locale09:36
cjwatsonmaxagaz: so console-setup/layoutcode=us is indeed the proper fix for your problem09:37
cjwatsonshtylman: well, that's exactly the bug that maxagaz quoted; it just picks the first in the list or some such, while it would probably be better if it stopped and asked09:37
evandhello crazybyte09:38
crazybytehello evand09:38
crazybytesee you later then :)09:38
evandsure thing09:38
cjwatsonmaxagaz: BTW, I'd appreciate it if you were a bit more accurate in bug reports; in your statement in the bug report you said that you were using console-setup/layoutcode=us, not console-setup/layoutcode=en_US as you later clarified. If you'd been accurate from the start then I could have helped you straight away09:39
juliuxcjwatson: if some crazy german people are contacting you directly about unattended ubuntu installation you can forward them to me;) i have link your launchpad profil and blog in my german howto with a thanking for your support10:03
cjwatsonok10:04
maxagazcjwatson, that's right... it only when CarlFK gave us his pxe config that i thought about doing the same10:16
maxagazit10:16
maxagazit's10:16
cjwatsoncrazybyte: perhaps one approach to "grub-restore" would be to arrange for the "rescue" package to be usable on the live CD and have a UI and stuff10:47
crazybytecjwatson, ok10:47
crazybytei will look into it10:47
cjwatsonsince it has a grub-reinstall plugin10:47
mat_tevand, hey12:26
evandmat_t: hi12:27
mat_tevand, alpha 5 installer didn't fit on my screen (mini 9)... Is that fixed for the beta?12:27
evandmat_t: not quite yet: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/ubiquity/+bug/32595812:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 325958 in ubiquity "Jaunty Alpha 4: Ubiquity windows does not fit on 1024x600 screen" [High,Triaged]12:28
mat_tevand, thx12:29
evandsure thing12:29
cjwatsonevand: bug 334284 is still milestoned for beta; since I'm going to be asked about it in the release meeting, do you think it's going to make it?14:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 334284 in ubiquity "Timezone map cities are incorrectly placed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33428414:06
evandI suspect not for beta, but hopefully shortly thereafter14:10
evandI'll move the target14:10
cjwatsonok, thanks14:11
shtylmanevand: regarding the city placement....I worked at it quite a bit and I think I got the cities a bit closer...it was similar to your code with just a few changes for the offsets... its in the kde_frontend folder14:28
evandshtylman: ok thanks, I'll take a look in a little bit.  Trying to fix resizing issues.14:29
shtylmank14:29
persiacjwatson, Noting your comments in the release meeting: mcasadevall and I have been walking through armel installs today, tracking down failure points.14:37
cjwatsonpersia: at the moment it's a lot faster to deal with uninstallable packages by way of the testing-ports output and chdist14:43
cjwatsonthat's what I've been doing14:43
persiaOh, then we're talking about different things.  We've been walking through d-i :)14:43
cjwatsonah14:44
persiaI feared duplication, but it appears there isn't any :)14:44
cjwatsonplease do continue walking through d-i ;-)14:44
shtylmancjwatson: are you gonna handle the keyboard preseed bug? and does its status need to change in launchpad?15:10
cjwatsonshtylman: yeah, it's on my list. What's wrong with its status?15:13
shtylmancjwatson: on second though...ignore the status comment :)15:15
shtylman*thought15:16
persiacjwatson, looking at partman/lib/disk-label.sh, I'm curious if you happen to know the historical reasons why each armel subarchitecture is separately set to "msdos" and *) is set to "UNKNOWN".15:18
cjwatsonpersia: I don't, but it's moot because that's been changed upstream15:21
cjwatsonapparently I forgot to merge that. I will.15:21
cjwatsonbeta-critical?15:21
persiaActually merging the upstream fix isn't, but we'd like the imx51 subarch to not have a warning for beta, if we can.15:22
persiaI can look at that merge, or just add the subarch, if it saves you time.15:23
cjwatsonI have the merge in progress15:24
persiaOK.  In that case, it would be nice if it happened by beta, but I'd say it's beta-medium or beta-high, rather than beta-critical.15:24
cjwatsonok, I'll see what I can do today15:25
persiaThanks.  I'll drop it from the list of imx51 stuff.15:26
CIA-3partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r703 ubuntu/ (14 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 6515:29
davmor2evand: I've been think (and yes I know it's dangerous) about the map.  Is it relatively to scale?  If so could you not just x,y plot it using the cities gps co-ordinates?15:32
CIA-3partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r704 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 65ubuntu115:32
davmor2thinking even which is far more dangerous :)15:32
evanddavmor2: it's not that simple.15:32
davmor2evand: Why?15:32
cjwatsonpersia: ^-15:32
evandthe points are in latitude and longitude, the map is a projection of the surface of a sphere onto a 2d surface.15:33
persiacjwatson, Thanks a lot.15:34
davmor2evand: Okay just thought I'd ask :)15:35
evandsure, and thanks for the suggestion15:36
CIA-3hw-detect: cjwatson * r111 ubuntu/hw-detect.sh: typo15:38
CarlFKI need to install lenny on 8 boxes.  Is it worth me trying to port my ubuntu pxe/preseed configs, or just burn 8 cd's and start answering questions?16:25
CarlFKI think I did some debian installs a few years ago.16:26
cjwatsonI would start with the Ubuntu configuration but also compare the Debian and Ubuntu example-preseed.txt files and make modifications based on that16:27
CIA-3apt-setup: cjwatson * r164 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog generators/90services-select):17:55
CIA-3apt-setup: Make sure to exit services-select generator cleanly if17:55
CIA-3apt-setup: apt-setup/services-select is empty.17:55
CIA-3grub-installer: cjwatson * r774 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):18:25
CIA-3grub-installer: Only check for the boot partition being on dmraid if the user allowed us18:25
CIA-3grub-installer: to activate dmraid, to cope with cases where dmraid is misdetected18:25
CIA-3grub-installer: (LP: #346001).18:25
CIA-3grub-installer: cjwatson * r775 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.36ubuntu418:28
* mcasadevall kicks his AJOIN list18:48
mcasadevallcjwatson, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/di-imx51-support19:09
mcasadevallcjwatson, I've added support to di for the imx51, and I've done a successful installation with it19:10
cjwatsonmcasadevall: ok, thanks; being called away to dinner now but I'll queue that up19:10
mcasadevallcjwatson, all the work is in bazaar branches :-)19:10
mcasadevallso it should be easy to merge19:10
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