[01:51] <CarlFK> did something change such that I need something else to set language?  locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us
[02:13] <maxagaz> hi
[02:18] <maxagaz> cjwatson, thanks for your message yesterday, about the Arabic problem in preseed
[02:33] <maxagaz> is there someone ?
[02:35] <maxagaz> once i've installed hardy using pxe and preseed, my client boots and the keyboard is in something like Arabic
[02:36] <maxagaz> as it has been reported here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/328078
[02:46] <CarlFK> maxagaz: i seem to be having the same problem
[02:46] <CarlFK> my pxe default file has:
[02:47] <CarlFK>  append initrd=ubuntu/jaunty/initrd.gz root=/dev/rd/0 rw locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us netcfg/wireless_wep= netcfg/get_hostname= DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 url=http://shaz/ubuntu/jaunty/preseed.cfg tasksel:tasksel/first="ubuntu-desktop"
[02:47] <CarlFK> that worked a few weeks ago, but not today
[02:49] <maxagaz> my pxe default is :
[02:49] <maxagaz> append vga=normal initrd=ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=en_US netcfg/choose_interface=eth0 netcfg/get_hostname= preseed/url=http://ubuntu.i-xanadu.com/xanadu-preseed.cfg --
[02:50] <CarlFK> hmm, let me try en_US ...
[02:55] <CarlFK> maxagaz: well, that seemed to be my problem.  so some good came out of this :)
[02:56] <maxagaz> CarlFK, you mean you don't have the problem anymore ?
[03:00] <CarlFK> well, I was having a different problem
[03:00] <CarlFK> I am just now starting the install
[03:24] <CarlFK> maxagaz: I see something odd
[03:25] <CarlFK> durring the install, I hit Alt-F2, see "hit enter for console..."
[03:25] <CarlFK> I hit enter, I get a prompt.  I type "abc" I see "***"
[03:25] <CarlFK> where * = some diamond char
[03:36] <maxagaz> CarlFK, during the install, i don't have any question
[03:39] <shtylman> evand: I tried a netboot (took a while to figure out in virtualbox..but ended up super easy), and used the preseed.cfg file the guy had attached...I didn't experience the same sort of problem (used alpha6)
[03:39] <shtylman> I dunno if I replicated everything the same...shrug...ideas?
[03:40] <CarlFK> maxagaz: did you type something in the installers VT ?
[03:41] <shtylman> evand: actually...I lied...I added "d-i console-setup/layoutcode string us" to the preseed file as per the suggestion in the bug
[03:41] <maxagaz> CarlFK, what's "the installers VT"
[03:41] <shtylman> imma run once without that and see what it does
[03:41] <maxagaz> i'll check again my install using console-setup/layoutcode=us instead of console-setup/layoutcode=en_US
[03:42] <shtylman> maxagaz: were you the one having the problem?
[03:43] <maxagaz> shtylman, my problem is about the Arabic keyboard
[03:43] <shtylman> maxagaz: right...using the preseed file, after install arabic was the keyboard selected for you..right?
[03:44] <CarlFK> maxagaz:  "the installers VT" is during the install, I hit Alt-F2, see "hit enter for console..."
[03:44] <maxagaz> shtylman, yes, that's me
[03:44] <maxagaz> shtylman, i posted a message yesterday as Gilles on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/328078
[03:45] <shtylman> maxagaz: ok, just so I know :) ... well I ran one install and it worked fine...with that line...im gonna run another without the preseed to confirm the bug
[03:45] <shtylman> and see what I can do about it...hopefully :)
[03:45] <CarlFK> shtylman: you get what I am saying about the alt installer's VT?
[03:46] <shtylman> CarlFK: lemme read up some...I just opened the irc window..
[03:47] <CarlFK> same pxe line, before it even loads the preseed (I disconnected the lan). Alt-F2, enter for console, type "abc"at prompt, see "***"
[03:47] <shtylman> CarlFK: before starting the install
[03:48] <shtylman> I switch to VT and type...
[03:48] <shtylman> english as normal
[03:48] <shtylman> lemme start the install and try again...
[03:48] <shtylman> do you autodetect keyboard layout?
[03:48] <shtylman> or set manually?
[03:48] <CarlFK> shtylman: using these kernel parms?  locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=en_US
[03:49] <shtylman> CarlFK: no...lemme put those in and try
[03:49] <CarlFK> those take care of keyboard layout :)
[03:49] <maxagaz> CarlFK, a late answer... i didn't type anything in the installers VT (by the way, what does VT stands for ?)
[03:50] <shtylman> virtual terminal
[03:50] <CarlFK> VT - Virtual Term... yeah, that
[03:50] <maxagaz> ok
[03:53] <shtylman> CarlFK: maxagaz: behavior confirmed for "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=en_US" as a kernel parameter ... I see ### in the virtual terminal instead of english... but by using "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us" it works
[03:53] <shtylman> evand: ^
[03:54] <shtylman> are yall positive en_US is a valid code still?
[03:54] <CarlFK> shtylman: well, I got that from this IRC session :)
[03:55] <CarlFK> shtylman: I was using  locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us
[03:55] <shtylman> CarlFK: heh...missed that... :) also...from what I gather en_US is for local, and 'us' is for keyboards
[03:55] <shtylman> so the problem is the ungraceful default when using a non-valid layoutcode
[03:56] <shtylman> cjwatson: evand: what is the default when using a layoutcode that is not valid?
[03:56] <CarlFK> "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us" stopped taking care of the keyboard question -  console-setup/layoutcode=en_US  did
[03:57] <shtylman> CarlFK: huh?
[03:57] <CarlFK> um
[03:58] <CarlFK> (10:48:42 PM) shtylman: do you autodetect keyboard layout?
[03:58] <CarlFK> that implies the installer asks about the keyboard, right?
[03:58] <shtylman> CarlFK: yea...after adding the kernel param it doesn't
[03:58] <CarlFK> kinda.
[03:58] <shtylman> CarlFK: I hadn't added the param yet when I asked that
[03:59] <CarlFK> 2 weeks ago, using "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us" - no keyboard question
[03:59] <CarlFK> today, those prams, got asked about keyboard
[03:59] <shtylman> using which netbook tar?
[03:59] <shtylman> alpha6?
[03:59] <shtylman> or current?
[03:59] <CarlFK> saw what maxagaz used, tried that, no keyboard q
[04:00] <CarlFK> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux
[04:04] <shtylman> CarlFK: just pulled latest linux and initrd and ran it with "locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us ... result: no keybaord question
[04:05] <CarlFK>  md5sum linux 93bdff35fdba8a7f547ebb563c3cb3c2
[04:05] <CarlFK> is mine the same?
[04:05] <CarlFK> 4140534753c74a27c887ec49c58b20a3  initrd.gz
[04:05] <shtylman> I have different for linux
[04:06] <shtylman> and for initrd
[04:06] <CarlFK> where did you pull from?
[04:07] <shtylman> that link
[04:07] <CarlFK> whoops - I didn't md5 the x64 one..
[04:07] <CarlFK> 3be4c9beea45a3f5ae7bd2a72761234f  initrd.gz
[04:07] <CarlFK> 42d4d7a9bb1333aff2a1580eddc5aa02  linux
[04:08] <shtylman> k... yea
[04:08] <shtylman> ran in virtual machine...no keyboard question...
[04:08] <shtylman> and VT's were normal
[04:08] <CarlFK> can you try the x86?
[04:09] <shtylman> sure
[04:09] <CarlFK> thanks
[04:09] <CarlFK> sorry bout that - forgot that my script pulled both
[04:13] <shtylman> CarlFK: no prob.... result: i386 behavior = amd64 behavior -> no keyboard question
[04:13] <CarlFK> huh
[04:13] <shtylman> what are you testing with? virtual machines or physical?
[04:14] <CarlFK> physical
[04:15] <shtylman> http://shtylman.com/stuff/shtylman.netboot.tar.gz
[04:16] <shtylman> thats a tar of my tftp directory
[04:16] <shtylman> obviously you will need to change the preseed/url in the text.cfg file...but try that out if you want...see what it does
[04:26] <CarlFK> shtylman: does your's ask about keyboard ?
[04:26] <shtylman> nope
[04:26] <shtylman> goes straight to hostname
[04:26] <shtylman> after network conf
[04:28] <CarlFK> which of these files has the kernel/append lines?
[04:29] <CarlFK> append vga=normal initrd=ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us preseed/url=http://192.168.1.105/preseed/preseed.cfg -- quiet
[04:30] <shtylman> text.cfg
[04:30] <shtylman> in the boot-screens
[04:30] <CarlFK> yeah - grepped everything
[04:30] <shtylman> k
[04:42] <shtylman> well, im out...if there are more things needing testing, just leave a msg and I will try it tomorrow
[04:42] <CarlFK> thanks - im having lan issues...
[09:36] <cjwatson> good grief, that was a vast amount of confusion over a layout code :)
[09:36] <cjwatson> maxagaz: en_US has never been and will never be a valid keyboard layout code; it's a locale
[09:37] <cjwatson> maxagaz: so console-setup/layoutcode=us is indeed the proper fix for your problem
[09:37] <cjwatson> shtylman: well, that's exactly the bug that maxagaz quoted; it just picks the first in the list or some such, while it would probably be better if it stopped and asked
[09:38] <evand> hello crazybyte
[09:38] <crazybyte> hello evand
[09:38] <crazybyte> see you later then :)
[09:38] <evand> sure thing
[09:39] <cjwatson> maxagaz: BTW, I'd appreciate it if you were a bit more accurate in bug reports; in your statement in the bug report you said that you were using console-setup/layoutcode=us, not console-setup/layoutcode=en_US as you later clarified. If you'd been accurate from the start then I could have helped you straight away
[10:03] <juliux> cjwatson: if some crazy german people are contacting you directly about unattended ubuntu installation you can forward them to me;) i have link your launchpad profil and blog in my german howto with a thanking for your support
[10:04] <cjwatson> ok
[10:16] <maxagaz> cjwatson, that's right... it only when CarlFK gave us his pxe config that i thought about doing the same
[10:16] <maxagaz> it
[10:16] <maxagaz> it's
[10:47] <cjwatson> crazybyte: perhaps one approach to "grub-restore" would be to arrange for the "rescue" package to be usable on the live CD and have a UI and stuff
[10:47] <crazybyte> cjwatson, ok
[10:47] <crazybyte> i will look into it
[10:47] <cjwatson> since it has a grub-reinstall plugin
[12:26] <mat_t> evand, hey
[12:27] <evand> mat_t: hi
[12:27] <mat_t> evand, alpha 5 installer didn't fit on my screen (mini 9)... Is that fixed for the beta?
[12:28] <evand> mat_t: not quite yet: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/ubiquity/+bug/325958
[12:29] <mat_t> evand, thx
[12:29] <evand> sure thing
[14:06] <cjwatson> evand: bug 334284 is still milestoned for beta; since I'm going to be asked about it in the release meeting, do you think it's going to make it?
[14:10] <evand> I suspect not for beta, but hopefully shortly thereafter
[14:10] <evand> I'll move the target
[14:11] <cjwatson> ok, thanks
[14:28] <shtylman> evand: regarding the city placement....I worked at it quite a bit and I think I got the cities a bit closer...it was similar to your code with just a few changes for the offsets... its in the kde_frontend folder
[14:29] <evand> shtylman: ok thanks, I'll take a look in a little bit.  Trying to fix resizing issues.
[14:29] <shtylman> k
[14:37] <persia> cjwatson, Noting your comments in the release meeting: mcasadevall and I have been walking through armel installs today, tracking down failure points.
[14:43] <cjwatson> persia: at the moment it's a lot faster to deal with uninstallable packages by way of the testing-ports output and chdist
[14:43] <cjwatson> that's what I've been doing
[14:43] <persia> Oh, then we're talking about different things.  We've been walking through d-i :)
[14:44] <cjwatson> ah
[14:44] <persia> I feared duplication, but it appears there isn't any :)
[14:44] <cjwatson> please do continue walking through d-i ;-)
[15:10] <shtylman> cjwatson: are you gonna handle the keyboard preseed bug? and does its status need to change in launchpad?
[15:13] <cjwatson> shtylman: yeah, it's on my list. What's wrong with its status?
[15:15] <shtylman> cjwatson: on second though...ignore the status comment :)
[15:16] <shtylman> *thought
[15:18] <persia> cjwatson, looking at partman/lib/disk-label.sh, I'm curious if you happen to know the historical reasons why each armel subarchitecture is separately set to "msdos" and *) is set to "UNKNOWN".
[15:21] <cjwatson> persia: I don't, but it's moot because that's been changed upstream
[15:21] <cjwatson> apparently I forgot to merge that. I will.
[15:21] <cjwatson> beta-critical?
[15:22] <persia> Actually merging the upstream fix isn't, but we'd like the imx51 subarch to not have a warning for beta, if we can.
[15:23] <persia> I can look at that merge, or just add the subarch, if it saves you time.
[15:24] <cjwatson> I have the merge in progress
[15:24] <persia> OK.  In that case, it would be nice if it happened by beta, but I'd say it's beta-medium or beta-high, rather than beta-critical.
[15:25] <cjwatson> ok, I'll see what I can do today
[15:26] <persia> Thanks.  I'll drop it from the list of imx51 stuff.
[15:29] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r703 ubuntu/ (14 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 65
[15:32] <davmor2> evand: I've been think (and yes I know it's dangerous) about the map.  Is it relatively to scale?  If so could you not just x,y plot it using the cities gps co-ordinates?
[15:32] <CIA-3> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r704 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 65ubuntu1
[15:32] <davmor2> thinking even which is far more dangerous :)
[15:32] <evand> davmor2: it's not that simple.
[15:32] <davmor2> evand: Why?
[15:32] <cjwatson> persia: ^-
[15:33] <evand> the points are in latitude and longitude, the map is a projection of the surface of a sphere onto a 2d surface.
[15:34] <persia> cjwatson, Thanks a lot.
[15:35] <davmor2> evand: Okay just thought I'd ask :)
[15:36] <evand> sure, and thanks for the suggestion
[15:38] <CIA-3> hw-detect: cjwatson * r111 ubuntu/hw-detect.sh: typo
[16:25] <CarlFK> I need to install lenny on 8 boxes.  Is it worth me trying to port my ubuntu pxe/preseed configs, or just burn 8 cd's and start answering questions?
[16:26] <CarlFK> I think I did some debian installs a few years ago.
[16:27] <cjwatson> I would start with the Ubuntu configuration but also compare the Debian and Ubuntu example-preseed.txt files and make modifications based on that
[17:55] <CIA-3> apt-setup: cjwatson * r164 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog generators/90services-select):
[17:55] <CIA-3> apt-setup: Make sure to exit services-select generator cleanly if
[17:55] <CIA-3> apt-setup: apt-setup/services-select is empty.
[18:25] <CIA-3> grub-installer: cjwatson * r774 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer):
[18:25] <CIA-3> grub-installer: Only check for the boot partition being on dmraid if the user allowed us
[18:25] <CIA-3> grub-installer: to activate dmraid, to cope with cases where dmraid is misdetected
[18:25] <CIA-3> grub-installer: (LP: #346001).
[18:28] <CIA-3> grub-installer: cjwatson * r775 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.36ubuntu4
[18:48]  * mcasadevall kicks his AJOIN list
[19:09] <mcasadevall> cjwatson, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/di-imx51-support
[19:10] <mcasadevall> cjwatson, I've added support to di for the imx51, and I've done a successful installation with it
[19:10] <cjwatson> mcasadevall: ok, thanks; being called away to dinner now but I'll queue that up
[19:10] <mcasadevall> cjwatson, all the work is in bazaar branches :-)
[19:10] <mcasadevall> so it should be easy to merge