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bazhangdont click those links00:44
LjLcourse not00:45
vorianunless you like to see harry bums00:56
LjLbazhang: that's not true.00:56
LjLbazhang: i'm so right that i can be WRONG if i want to.00:56
vorianhairy, rather00:56
bazhangLjL, not gross pictures? okay00:56
bazhangto each his own00:56
vorian:o00:56
bazhangoops00:57
LjL... that ain't what i meant.00:57
bazhangnever mind00:57
bazhangyeah I finally got that00:57
Myrttiugh00:57
Myrttimmmmmmmmmmm00:57
bazhangundo ics?01:32
LjLone ribeiro is enough01:34
LjLsrsly01:34
LjLi already feel like i'm overwhelmed by integration by parts and differential equations01:34
bazhangjust unplug stuff?01:34
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bazhangexcession seems awfully random01:43
bazhanghehe02:03
LjLmarkov bot?02:07
bazhangmust have been02:07
LjLbazhang: you forgot to check for clones02:07
bazhangjust saying hi had it talking about /var/log02:07
bazhanghi jpowermacg4 02:10
bazhangjpowermacg4, something we can help you with?02:13
bazhangjoltz, excessi0n is yours?02:13
joltzyes02:13
LjL!guidelines02:13
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:13
LjLjoltz: have you noticed the amount of traffic in #ubuntu?02:17
joltzI have02:17
bazhang<Excessi0n> bazhang: ubuntu-desktop is just a bot.02:17
LjLjoltz: do you think that adding to that traffic by having fun with Markov chains really helps anyone?02:18
bazhangnot very smart of a bot02:18
joltzno, but it was really fun.02:19
LjLi see02:19
LjLit wasn't fun for the users seeking real support in #ubuntu, however02:19
bazhangfun to disrupt and confuse everyone?02:19
joltzwell... I could have made it really obnoxious and respond to everything02:20
joltzI thought it was fairly mild02:20
LjLthen we'll be fairly mild too, won't we bazhang?02:20
joltzdo any of you happen to be ops in #debian as well?02:21
bazhanga week for every bit of nonsense uttered?02:21
LjLjoltz: why?02:21
joltzoh, no reason...02:21
joltz;)02:21
LjLjoltz: if you have no questions for us, please part.02:21
bazhangso around 104 weeks?02:22
joltzok02:22
ubottuIn #ubuntu+1, xang said: !dontzap is  sudo dontzap --disable02:22
joltzI've had my fun, won't be bringing the bot back here anyway02:23
bazhangyou sure wont02:23
ubottuIn #ubuntu+1, xang said: !dontzap is used to enable ctrl-alt-backspace. Simply use the command:  sudo dontzap --disable02:23
joltzyou're about the coolest ops I've ever been disciplined by, thanks02:24
LjL!dontzap is <reply> To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable »02:24
ubottuI'll remember that, LjL02:24
LjLbazhang: that fellow gets 0 points in sympathy02:25
LjLi've warned the #debian ops, by the way.02:25
jpowermacg4oh my bad.. i just never knew this was here02:26
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops joltz Owns the "Excessi0n" Markov bot, seems to have no remorse, apparently want to move it to #debian as he's banned from here.02:26
ubottuThe operation succeeded.02:26
jpowermacg4this is where you can report abuse?02:28
LjLjpowermacg4: yes02:28
jpowermacg4ok thanks02:28
jpowermacg4i was wondering why no ops were in the other channel. lol02:28
LjLwe are there.02:28
bazhangthey are there02:28
jpowermacg4yeah i noticed after a while02:28
bazhangjust hiding :)02:28
jpowermacg4undercover :P02:28
jpowermacg4cya later02:29
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops jpowermacg4 This might easily have been "joltz", or I can't explain how "joltz" knew that I suspected he'd move his bot to #debian, as his PM tells me: "[03:30:00] <joltz> nope, I'm not moving the bot to #debian, as I'm a fan of that distro <joltz> just making a joke."02:40
ubottuThe operation succeeded.02:40
bazhangmentor (op in #debian apparently) saw him upon entering02:41
LjLbazhang: that's because i told him.02:41
bazhangLjL, right I saw that , did not know who they were02:41
dewwhello02:58
LjLhi deww02:58
dewwhave a spammer on hand02:58
deww22:53 [freenode] -samual(n=saya@60.54.31.211)- Join us and enjoy at server irc.webnet.my  http://www.webnet.my http://chat.webnet.my ÇoreTeaM³® ÇoreTeaM³®02:58
dewwthats the msg i noticed when join #ubuntu02:58
LjLwe'll handle that, thanks for reporting02:59
dewwthanks02:59
dewwi shall part02:59
LjL(yes, he was coached)02:59
bazhangdeww?02:59
LjLbazhang: yeah, i pm'd him and asked about the spam, then asked him to re-report it here03:00
LjLbazhang: now i'd like the one other fellow who said somethng about "samual" earlier to confirm it03:00
bazhangLjL, aha03:00
LjLhello again03:01
jpowermacg4hey03:01
jpowermacg4is it alright if i use #ubuntu as a test channel. I'm working on a bot "txtest" it doesn't do anything but attempt to keep track of the users.03:03
jpowermacg4i've finally succeeded with my buffers!03:03
LjLjpowermacg4: as long as it's completely silent and doesn't log to any sort of public place.03:04
jpowermacg4yeah it only has 1 command at the moment that i can call from another channel... it's finally gotten the user counts correct in #ubuntu03:05
jpowermacg4i'm essentially trying to make it a "irc client" first.... i finally redid the socket work yesterday with a bit of help03:07
cj_sze1LjL: (10:30:49 AM) samual: (notice) Join us and enjoy at server irc.webnet.my http://www.webnet.my http://chat.webnet.my ?oreTeaM?? ?oreTeaM??03:07
LjLcj_sze1: thanks for reporting that, we'll take care of it03:07
jpowermacg4seems this code is a lot more stable :D .. my bots written in PHP heh03:07
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops samual PM spammer03:07
ubottuThe operation succeeded.03:07
bazhangI would say NO to the bot03:08
cj_sze1LjL: can ubuntu server 8.10 read more than 4 gig of RAM03:08
cj_sze1?03:09
LjLcj_sze1: ask that in #ubuntu please, this channel is for abuse reporting only03:09
cj_sze1ahh03:09
cj_sze1ok thanks,, sorry :)03:09
jpowermacg4bazhang: you referring to me?03:10
bazhangjpowermacg4, you are a bot?03:10
jpowermacg4no no.. i'm testing one as a IRC client. currently I'm testing it on #ubuntu because it's the biggest channel I know of. Just testing to see if it's able to keep track of users. I've fixed up some older bugs in my old version. But my new version uses a new buffer and was checking to see how good it was03:12
jpowermacg4seems to beat the old fgets version though03:12
bazhangif it talks it will be removed03:12
jpowermacg4nah it doesn't talk03:12
bazhangdoes it log to a public channel03:13
jpowermacg4not sure what you mean... only thing is does is... 03:13
jpowermacg4[23:13:38]  <txtest> There are 1353 people in #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net: Too many to display03:13
jpowermacg4uh oh.. looks like it's failing already lol03:14
bazhangits logging IP's?03:14
jpowermacg4i don't think i can get ip's03:14
jpowermacg4it's gonna essentially be a irc client though03:14
jpowermacg4so whatever x-chat does.. it's gonna do03:15
jpowermacg4it all works by arrays03:15
jpowermacg4it doesn't save anything though, just checking to see if theres any bugs03:18
bazhangjpowermacg4, those who know about bots say ok03:21
bazhangjpowermacg4, others may chime in later, so be aware03:22
jpowermacg4ok, i need to fix it actually at the moment though for User Quits. Was a quickmock up mostly just to make sure my data isn't getting corrupted/incomplete. Thus it passes on that.03:24
bruce89true to my word, here I am03:29
bazhangbruce89, how may we help you?03:32
bruce89well, I just wonder why bans are handed out so liberally03:33
bazhangthey aren't03:33
bruce89I mean, I could understand torrrents of swearing or advertising03:33
jpowermacg4i'll retest tomorrow.. don't feel like looking for the bugs tonight.03:33
jpowermacg4good night03:34
bruce89I just don't understand why things are taken so seriously03:35
bazhangits a busy support channel03:36
bazhangthere are several offtopic chat channels03:36
bazhang#kubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-offtopic to name two03:36
bruce89well, in this case, the person in question was going to ask a question03:37
bazhangtranceenergy?03:37
bruce89yes03:37
bazhangaha03:37
bazhangwell not your affair really03:37
bruce89known issue I assume03:38
* bruce89 is not surprised, I'm told to discuss things here, then told to mind my own business03:41
bazhangnot others bans03:41
bazhangthey can come here03:41
bruce89well, my concerns are general03:41
bazhangbruce89, it is a support channel. there are certain rules. smaller channels may not have those rules.03:43
bruce89well, it's not exactly 10 lines per second03:44
bazhangthis seems to be focusing on one user.03:45
bazhangie tranceenergy03:45
bazhangbans are not permanent in most cases03:45
bazhangthough some do exist for repeated, very serious violators03:46
bruce89it's not so much the bans, it's just the whole attitude03:46
bazhangit is a more strict channel by necessity.03:46
bruce89for instance, if it is even slightly tangential to the topic, things happen03:46
bazhangand there are avenues to chit chat outside of the channel (as mentioned above)03:47
bazhangthat seems hyperbolic03:47
bruce89it's not a comet03:47
bazhangie not a fair representation03:47
bruce89I understand that #ubuntu is not for general discussion, but the occasional remark is surely harmless03:48
bruce89all I can say is that it's sad that Ubuntu has come to this03:51
bazhangcome to what?03:52
bazhangoops03:52
bazhang<pinguino> freenode is fascinating, structured like the military04:13
bazhang:004:13
bazhangcj_sze1, how may we help you04:35
FlannelHi cj_sze1, how can we help you today?05:27
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)05:34
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)05:34
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)05:34
bazhanghe has this on autojoin05:35
Flannelcj_sze: If you have no current business in this channel, please don't idle here05:36
elkyMyrtti, 2:30am my time: <Icebuntu> hey please allow me to go to ubuntu fi 06:59
jussi01elky: oh dear....07:05
bazhang* [DaemonDEB] (n=ryan@c-67-173-86-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net): ryan08:35
bazhangdaemonmdv?08:35
bazhangaka ryan farmer , almightycthulhu?08:36
elky-NickServ- Information on DaemonMDV (account DaemonXP):08:37
elky-NickServ- Registered : Feb 15 20:00:07 2009 (4 weeks, 4 days, 12:36:40 ago)08:37
elky-NickServ- User reg.  : Jan 26 13:52:18 2009 (7 weeks, 3 days, 18:44:29 ago)08:37
elky-NickServ- Last addr  : n=ryan@c-67-173-86-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net08:37
elkydid we ban or not?08:37
bazhangnot in +1 iirc08:38
bazhangwhere he is now <DaemonDEB> kernel.org kernels are the only ones I use08:38
elkythen let him earn it. if his recent behaviour is anything to go by, then it wont be long08:38
bazhangtrue08:39
bazhangI think hobbsee was asking about him yesterday iirc08:39
bazhangie was he a troll08:39
bazhangyeah its him, knocking down ubuntu and extolling fedora08:41
bazhangicebuntu incoming in #u #k09:02
elkyi dont mind him there if he behaves09:04
bazhanghe was giving really bad advice in #k earlier09:04
elkythen that is not behaving09:06
bazhangdaemondeb was ban dodging in -ot09:08
elkybandodging how? he's got a static ip09:17
bazhangthought he was banned there as daemonmkv or similar09:18
bazhanghe just quit (as daemondeb)09:18
elkyas daemonmkv!*@* only?09:19
elky@bansearch  daemonmkv!*@*09:19
ubottuNo matches found for daemonmkv!*@* in any channel09:19
bazhangI was not the one to ban, can seem to find the relevant bt info at the moment09:19
elky@bansearch  daemon*!*@*09:19
ubottuNo matches found for daemon*!*@* in any channel09:19
elky@bansearch  daemon*@*09:19
ubottuNo matches found for daemon*@*!*@* in any channel09:19
bazhangalmightycthulhu shows no matches either; though btracker does09:20
elky@btlogin09:20
bazhang* DaemonDEB (n=ryan@c-67-173-86-85.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic09:26
bazhangjust now09:26
elkyconnection died maybe09:28
bazhang* [Daemon_] (n=xavierg2@host-98-127-40-131.bln-mt.client.bresnan.net): Xavierg2003 ban evading in #u09:28
elkyum, the only connection is the word 'daemon', and by that argument we should ban all daemons... like the bots.09:29
bazhanghe quit (daemon_)09:29
elkybazhang, i want a reason to nuke him too, but inventing reasons isn't going to work09:30
bazhangxavierg2003 is someone else entirely09:30
elkyyes, i know. you're confusing me here09:31
elkywho are you saying is ban evading?09:31
bazhangtwo different people in two different channels :)09:32
bazhangsorry about that09:32
bazhangljl banned xavierg2003 earlier today09:32
bazhangryanfarmer aka (many many nicks) was banned by several individuals in -ot09:33
elkyi'm pretty certain none of those bans remain at this point in time09:34
bazhangokay09:34
elkyi cannot see them, anyway09:34
bazhangthe bantracker seems not be in sink with #bansearch though09:35
bazhangerr sync09:35
elkyi think that's a known issue09:36
bazhangokay09:36
Myrttijussi01: in pm?10:23
Myrttibum, hangover fail10:25
Myrttielky: did he ask that in pm?10:25
elkyMyrtti, yes.10:26
Myrttiand what did you answer?10:27
elkyi didnt10:27
elkyit was 2:30am my time, i didnt find it until i got home 16hrs later.10:27
ikoniabullgard4 has managed to setup a fully functioning samba domain - but doesn't know what the domain master is ????10:44
ikoniadoes that seem possible ?10:44
jussi01ikonia: it may be that he doesnt understand your terminology?10:45
* jussi01 waves to ikonia :)10:45
ikoniajussi01: hey hey10:45
ikoniajussi01: I did think that but I tried to explain what it does and he still doesn't get it10:46
jussi01ikonia: still on track for your holiday?10:46
ikoniaso far all looks good10:46
jussi01got passport yet?10:47
ikoniaalready sent off10:48
jussi01:)10:48
Myrttiso...10:51
Myrttidid you know that I've moved to England and am in common-law marriage? I didn't. But the Finnish NHS says I am so it *must* be true...10:52
bazhanghe has had way more than 3 strikes (more like 23)10:52
jussi01Myrtti: ROFL!!10:52
MyrttiI liked that decision so much I had four pints of cider last night, but I must have had something with alcohol content more than 4.7% since I feel, quite frankly, shit.11:03
ikoniaMyrtti: UK cisder is strong11:10
Myrttiikonia: so I noted...11:11
Tm_Tkids...11:12
ikoniacider even11:12
* Mez just tried to use his phone as a numeric keypad11:32
bazhanguseruser periodically says : guuuuuuuuunit11:48
bazhanghas been warned to stop11:48
Myrttishreddies ♥ 11:49
bazhangwonder is shadeslayer is for real12:55
bazhangseems to be having problems with everything and all the while suggesting 'it must be hal'12:55
bazhanghe was talking about configuring his led's to monitor dl speed but cant clear apt cache?12:56
ikoniabazhang: I've told him it's not hal 100 times12:56
bazhangikonia, and he has downloaded all of kubuntu-desktop fresh in less than 5 minutes on a 128kbs connection12:57
ikoniabazhang: he's a known liar - see BT 12:57
ikoniaand the message I posted in here the other day 12:57
bazhanghe is banned in #ubuntu ?12:57
bazhangseems to be if the bot is to be trusted12:58
bazhanggnome is broken, now fixed all of a sudden? he just seems to have taken his trolling to #kubuntu frankly13:02
bazhangie no straight answers, and mysterious configuration changes, all involving hal somehow13:02
ikoniabazhang: yes he's banned13:03
ikoniabazhang: and after admiting to his lies/ban/dodging/trolling I won't be lifting it for a while13:03
bazhangno idea why he is allowed to troll #kubuntu13:04
ikoniabecause one channel does not effect the other 13:05
bazhangdont follow that reasoning at all.13:07
bazhanghe is wasting peoples time and taking up official ubuntu channel resources13:07
MyrttiI can't help wondering why ASUS-tek wants to be on -fi13:38
ikoniaMyrtti: just ignore it13:40
ikoniaforget about him13:40
* jussi01 waves13:55
bazhango/13:56
MyrttiI'm just intrigued14:08
ikoniahello jussi01 14:12
LjLMyrtti: you might want to remove the hostname ban that the floodbot automatically set on him, if you want him redirected14:57
Myrttiyeah, I'm getting there14:57
Myrttithough - he's requesting a cloak at freenode14:58
Myrttiwhich is why I'm redirecting him here14:58
LjLah14:58
bazhangtoo dodge a ban14:59
LjLMyrtti: note he changed the nickname now.14:59
bazhanger to14:59
LjLthough that might just be for setting up the alternate14:59
LjLbazhang: it looks that way, yes14:59
MyrttiLjL: note I put the ban with An7i*!*@*, not An7i!*@*14:59
LjLah right, not a problem then15:00
MyrttiI've been on IRC far too long ;-)15:00
LjLMyrtti: well maybe, but using sane banmasks shouldn't by itself be a symptom of irc overdose :)15:01
LjLwhat's this CTCP day?15:03
Myrttiapparently so15:04
MyrttiI wonder if there's some new vulnerability that they're trying to exploit or something15:04
LjLmaybe... they're just doing versions15:04
LjLmind, they could merely be curious as to which clients people are using in a big channel15:04
LjLdid you see just which cloak an7i got?15:13
ikoniano?15:13
bazhangyep15:13
ikoniahe's not got a cloak according to whois15:13
ikonia /whowas sorry 15:14
ikoniawhat did he get ?15:14
bazhang An7i_2 (n=An7i@unaffiliated/an7i)15:14
ikoniais that bad that he got that cloak ?15:14
Myrtti[16:57] <+mquin> An7i_2: you are now cloaked15:14
LjLikonia: if he got that to ban evade, yes it is15:14
LjLi guess we shall see that15:14
ikoniaLjL: ahh I didn't know who he was or that he was banned15:14
LjLikonia: /whowas is flawed when people change hostnames15:14
bazhangwhat was he banned for15:15
LjLbazhang: CTCP'ing #ubuntu15:15
bazhangLjL, ok15:15
Myrttinot a major offence, could have been done accidentally15:15
Myrttiand I'm fine to let him go if he can explain himself well enough15:15
LjLyeah, but what happened in #freenode smells fishy15:15
bazhangnothing like shadeslayer15:16
Myrttiexactly15:16
LjLnotice how he said "i want to hide my hostname"15:16
LjLand then corrected himself and said "change"15:16
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LjLPici managed to use /nick16:19
LjLapplaud please16:19
Pici*thwap*16:19
bazhanghehe16:19
PiciHe already has me in PM...16:20
LjLPici: pagan_ i guess?16:20
Piciyes16:20
ikoniawhois pagan_16:20
ikonia?16:20
bazhangseems like erry16:20
Picihes someone who doesnt know how to use irc16:20
LjLikonia: did NOT manage to use /whois16:20
LjLdo not applaud please16:20
ikoniaha ha ha16:20
ikoniaso pagan_ and kiddes are the same guy in #ubuntu16:21
PiciYes. He just nicked to that, congrats16:21
Picium16:46
bazhang* [shadelayer] (n=rohan@122.163.124.197): Rohan Garg16:47
Piciwhy is shadeslayer in #ubuntu asking to be banned?16:47
bazhangwhat the heck16:47
shadelayerPici: i joined from testnode16:47
shadelayerplease ban me16:47
bazhangits shadeslayer ban evading16:47
shadelayerim not worhty of #ubuntu16:47
shadelayernot evading,i wanted to join #kubuntu16:47
Picishadelayer: Then why are you even in #ubuntu?!16:47
shadelayermissed the k16:47
bazhangyou are in there now16:47
shadelayerno16:48
Piciyes16:48
shadelayeri parted16:48
shadelayernow?16:48
bazhang* shadelayer (n=rohan@122.163.124.197) has joined #kubuntu16:48
shadelayerwhat about now??16:48
Picishadelayer: Why did you join in the first place if you knew you should have been banned??16:48
bazhangwhy are you ban evading again16:48
* LjL rolls eyes16:48
shadelayerim not,i missed the k in kubuntu16:49
shadelayeri was /join #kubuntu and i missed the k16:49
bazhangthat is not true16:49
LjLshadelayer: just leave, since you know you're banned16:49
shadelayerit was a typo16:49
shadelayeri left it already16:49
LjLok, no need for me to ban that IP then16:50
shadelayerill restrain my self16:50
shadelayerthanks16:50
* Pici facepalms16:50
bazhangno he wont16:50
bazhangjust ban him from kubuntu as well16:50
PiciIs he supposed to be banned from #kubuntu or not?16:50
LjLdon't think so16:51
bazhanghe is trolling there all the livelong day16:51
bazhangnot yet16:51
bazhangikonia, has some reasoning behind this16:51
PiciWell, the next time someone sees something ban/kickworthy in #kubuntu, but doesnt have access there, just mention it here16:52
bazhangI have done so throughout the day16:52
LjLi see what the problem is16:53
LjLhe's not in my highlight list for some reason ;)16:53
LjLoh look, a minisplit16:55
LjLhow cute16:55
Piciawww16:55
LjLuhm, #ubuntu *does* currently forward to -unregged, doesn't it?16:59
LjL(no konv can't show that)16:59
bazhangxchat shows yes17:00
Pici mode/#ubuntu [+tncLf #ubuntu-unregged]17:00
LjLgood17:01
LjLearlier it looked like >5 nicks joined at the same time, but no one ended up in -unregged17:01
LjL[18:04:23] --> javierg has joined this channel (n=javierg@adsl-074-238-058-002.sip.mia.bellsouth.net).17:04
LjLthis might be "xavierg2003" alias "daemon" who was being a pain with aircrack yesterday17:05
LjLalthough it's bellsouth while he was another ISP, so it might just be name coincidence17:05
LjLstdin: you're working on BT logs?17:06
stdinLjL: I'm tweaking the web interface slightly, that's all17:06
stdinshould all still be working though17:07
LjLstdin: i'd love it (and i suspect we all would) if logs had nick/host highlighting... *blink blink*17:07
LjL(yes, it still works, i just noticed the full/inline thing)17:07
stdinLjL: the full log page does, but there's no "nice way" to do it yet17:08
stdinjust add &highlight=... to the "full" URL17:08
PiciWhen I was playing with django I wrote something that would do it based off of the nick or mask17:08
stdinI added the highlight stuff for @banlink17:08
LjLstdin: uhm, doesn't seem to work for me, i suppose you mean like &highlight=nickname?17:11
LjLPici: yes but was that one based on supybot or ubot?17:11
stdinLjL: wait, it's &mark=... not &highlight17:12
LjLah17:12
PiciLjL: supybot, but it was hackish17:12
stdinwhen you do @bansearch you get a ban ID for each ban, you can use that to do @banlink <Ban ID> [<highlight>]17:13
LjLstdin: cute, the best is if you could do nickname highlighting even when one is only looking at a hostname ban record - i think you have the infrastructure to do this, given that @mark does remember the full mask for users?17:13
bazhangLjL, yes daemon_ was on earlier xavierg200317:13
stdinLjL: it only remembers the hostname for users currently in channels the bot is in17:14
stdinif a user quits/parts, it'll do a whois/whowas to try and get it17:15
LjLstdin: well it would be very nice if that could end up in the ban info, one way or another (by highlighting in the logs or otherwise)... because of the fact that if an op bans first and kicks later, you won't see the nickname if you search for the ban - and conversely, if an op kicks first and bans later, you won't see the host if you're searching by nick17:16
LjLthat was always my main gripe about the bt17:17
stdinLjL: I recently changed the way that works, all kick/removes should give the full host of the targeted user17:17
stdinso searching for the hostmask should return the remove/kick entry too17:18
LjLthat's cool17:18
stdinI say "should", but I'm not 100% ;)17:19
stdinit's a pain messing with the BT, as it takes forever to reload itself when I change some code17:20
bazhang* rohan (n=rohan@122.163.124.197) has joined #kubuntu17:20
LjLstdin: yeah i'm not sure it's actually working. but it's cool that you're working on it anyway.17:22
* jussi01 waves17:23
* LjL catches jussi01's arm in the air and nibbles on it17:23
jussi01nibbles on it?17:26
jussi01o.O17:26
PiciMaybe LjL missed lunch/dinner17:26
LjLwell i didn't want to outright eat it, it might be poisonous or just bad.17:27
LjLi don't have lunches17:27
LjLi have breakfast at 2pm, and then i have dinner17:27
stdinI wish I could get the tracker to reload in less than 5 mins17:32
LjLstdin: is it due to what, the big DB? (i wouldn't think so)17:32
stdinit's getting the banlist for the channels it's in17:33
stdinmaybe a bad design decision17:33
LjLah17:34
LjLwait, the banlist you mean the bot itself is doing /mode #c b17:34
LjLor the banlist from the DB?17:34
stdinyeah17:34
stdinfrom the server17:34
LjLuhm17:34
LjLwell that shouldn't be *too* cumbersome though...17:34
LjLi mean, of course the #ubuntu banlist is pretty long, but the server should send it pretty quickly too17:34
LjLof course the fact itself of running /mode #c b for all channels - that takes time, due to throttling17:35
stdinI need to make sure it doesn't excess flood17:35
stdinthe worst is when the bot starts up, as it joins all the channels, gets the user lists and the ban lists17:36
stdinand probably has factoid requests17:36
LjLstdin: why does it need to do that, anyway? i thought the bot wouldn't really much care about current bans anyway, but it would just use its own stored information (which explains why certain bans are not stored in the tracker in the first place)17:36
stdinkeeps the tracker in sync, if the bot splits or just dies for some reason then the tracker can become out of sync17:37
stdinsaying bans that don't exist are in place, or not seeing some bans17:38
stdinthat just leads to confusion in a day or two when someone searches for something and get the wrong information17:38
LjLyes, but i thought that's what actually happens17:38
LjLstdin: anyway, perhaps you could turn that into a "delayed" job? for instance, it starts doing it after 5 minutes of being connected, and it does one channel a minute17:39
* Pici wonders if he ever actually submitted that ubottu bug17:40
* Pici shrugs17:40
stdinLjL: it's one of those things that "I going to do, but didn't" :)17:41
LjLstdin: i entirely know the feeling17:41
stdinI think I need to update the database structure to do what I want properly...17:42
stdinotherwise everything shows up as bans, not kicks17:42
stdinand the search seems to fail with only kicks selected17:43
stdinoh, and the database is quite large... 178MB17:45
LjLstdin: maybe just add an automatic comment to kicks containing the hostmask, and an automatic comment to bans containing the nickname?17:45
stdinhmm, that's could work17:45
LjLstdin: after all that's just the same thing that i often do manually for kickbans that i really want remembered17:47
bazhangdaemondeb at it again in +117:55
jhass840Is anyone willing to run the "test" that #ubuntu is requiring me to take, (preferably without crashing my connection to irc.ubuntu.com)?18:17
jhass840nevermind18:18
LjLerr, how can i run the test without "crashing" it i wonder...18:21
stdinLjL: the auto-comment thing should be working now18:45
LjLnice18:47
stdinit's not perfect, but it should work for most cases18:48
LjLi'll be testing an auxiliary floodbot-helper bot shortly in #ubuntu - nickname is WatchBot or WatchBot1 - please don't ban18:52
PiciWhat does it do?18:53
LjLPici: it will replace the floodbots' ban-evade warnings (which are completely broken), it already warns on "bad" site links, and i think i'll make it detect proxied hosts18:55
LjLPici: the big difference is that it's not anymore restricted to watching one channel only18:56
PiciLjL: Still written in php? (just curious, not making a dig at php (yet))18:57
LjLPici: yes, it's just a fork of the floodbots code18:57
bazhangheh18:57
LjLPici: it's something i wanted to implement in the floodbots themselves, but there was a problem - i needed to do things asynchronously, or the bots might lock up for too long18:57
LjLPici: now, there *are* ways to do things asynchronously, but 1) they're annoying 2) there's not way to do DNS requests async, which means you can't look DNSBLs up for a start18:58
LjLPici: and secondly, the floodbots are a bit too tied to working in one channel only. so i thought i'd just split the workload18:58
PiciLjL: Sounds good to me19:01
bazhangthis should be interesting19:05
Picibazhang: mudak?19:05
bazhangvs daemondeb19:05
LjLPici, mind giving watchbot +vV in #ubuntu-ops-monitor?19:09
LjLPici (et all), and if you want to test it out, join ##ljl and paste any wicked link you can come up with :)19:13
PiciLjL: done19:14
LjLPici: thanks19:15
bazhangwatchbot kicks on bad links? ie spam and such?19:15
LjLbazhang: just join ##ljl and try it :)19:15
bazhangby bad links you mean not sfw?19:15
LjLbazhang: mostly19:20
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:24
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:24
LjLwow19:25
LjLit killed nobody in #ubuntu19:25
Piciyay19:25
LjLit killed a dozen people in #gentoo19:25
LjLmy bots are working :)19:25
PiciWe must have banned them all already19:25
ikoniaI'm getting fed up of BUGabundo pushing it19:26
bazhangwhoa nice19:26
ikoniaeffective bot managment gents19:26
bazhangthat is insane19:36
bazhangbrilliantly done LjL 19:36
DaemonDEBikonia: So what about the unsolicited traffic?19:39
ikoniaDaemonDEB: hi DaemonDEB thanks for joining, I didn't want to discuss this in #ubuntu+1 after just making a clear statment about being offtopic in that channel19:39
DaemonDEBI've added a wildcard ignore for all ctcp traffic, thank you for reminding me to19:40
ikoniaDaemonDEB: I version'ed you due to you're behaviour through out the day, you have represeted problematic behaviour throughout the day common to some other known users, I ran a version on you to see if you matched one of the potential other regular "trolls" that are an issue in ubuntu channels19:40
ikoniaDaemonDEB: if it cause you a problem I apologise 19:40
ikoniaDaemonDEB: if there is nothing else you're welcome to leave this channel and go back to what you where doing 19:41
ikoniabazhang: can you look in #ubuntu-irc please. 20:14
LjLnalioth: does ubot3 sync with ubottu's database? (see -irc)21:06
naliothLjL: hourly21:12
LjLnalioth: i'm not sure it's doing that, try /msg ubottu !ask-#ubuntu-gr and /msg ubot3 !ask-#ubuntu-gr21:31
LjLthat was added a few days ago21:31
naliothi don't think ubot3 is setup for channel specific factoids21:51
LjLah21:51
naliothwhich is why we have !bot-clone (or whatever it is)21:52
LjLnalioth: alright, i might see if i can set up mine for channel specific factoids and send it to them, if they can't host one for themselves21:54
ubot3In #ubuntu-gr, LjL said: !no pastebin is <alias> paste22:06
ubot3In #ubuntu-gr, LjL said: !no pastebin-#ubuntu-gr is <alias> paste-#ubuntu-gr22:06
naliothwhy not help jpds and I get ours set up as well?22:11
jpdsMine has channel specific databases (-se and -vn atm).22:12
LjLnalioth: i have no idea how to enable them tbh. they just work for mine.22:13
LjLjpds: channel specific *dbs* wouldn't really work well for -gr i think, as they currently only want to have a couple of factoids (ask, paste) in greek and keep the rest in english22:17
jpdsLjL: Ah, OK.22:18
ubot3In #ubuntu-gr, LjL said: !paste-english is <alias> paste22:24
ubot3In #ubuntu-gr, LjL said: !paste-english is <reply> The pastebin can be found at http://pastebin.ubuntu-gr.org22:25
ubot3In #ubuntu-gr, LjL said: !no paste-english is <reply> The pastebin can be found at http://pastebin.ubuntu-gr.org22:25
LjLPricey: you were worried about there being a lot of -read-topic forwards in #ubuntu some days ago - if you look at #ubuntu now, for instance, floodbot2 is on an unbanning campaign on quite a few users he hasn't seen joining for 2 weeks22:29
PriceyLjL: ahh good stuff :)22:29
ubottuWatchBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist is filling up in #ubuntu: 508)22:36
LjLerr23:05
LjLthat's probably not true23:05
LjLsorry23:05
unkosup guys23:33
LjLunko: hi. i need to let you know that #ubuntu is an entirely inappropriate place to advertize other channels (or advertize anything, for that matter)23:33
LjLdo you think you can abstain from doing that in the future?23:34
unkosorry :[23:34
unkoi didn't know23:34
LjLunko: #ubuntu is strictly about Ubuntu support, and nothing else23:34
LjLunko: feel free to drop a mention of your channel in #ubuntu-offtopic (ONCE is enough, though, or it just becomes spam)23:34
unkook...thank you for  the warning23:34
unkook thank u23:34
unkocan i do it just once now?23:35
LjLnot in #ubuntu23:36
unkoin the off topic one23:36
LjLok, yes23:36
unkothanks23:36
LjLunko: when you aren't sure about the channel rules, check "/msg ubottu etiquette" or ask here first23:36
LjLother than that, enjoy23:36
unkook thank you very much23:37
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops unko Spammed twice an invitiation to join his channel in #ubuntu, was muted, said he won't do it again23:40
ubottuThe operation succeeded.23:40
bruce89ah23:46
bruce89I don't appreciate being insulted, if they had stopped, so would I23:46
LjLbruce8923:47
LjLyou just don't leave the channel saying "bloody arse"23:47
LjLAFTER having been warned about !language two minutes before23:47
bruce89true, but I am very upset23:47
LjLand i don't care23:47
bruce89charming23:47
LjLyou either can respect the rules, or if you're too upset to, then you leave and go for a walk23:48
LjLif you are unable to understand you're too upset to be on irc, then don't be23:48
bruce89well, I don't mean to swear23:48
bruce89but being attacked is not fair23:48
LjLbruce89: exactly, how were you insulted, after i had given the !stop?23:49
bruce89I was called a troll and various things23:49
bruce89I am most certainly not23:49
LjLthe word "troll" never appears after me giving !stop23:49
bruce89I don't care23:50
LjLah, you don't?23:51
LjLok23:51
LjLthen find another channel23:51
LjLbye23:51
bruce89I have23:51
bruce89but I have to say that this lack of compassion is unreasonable23:52
LjLbruce89, as i said, not being able to respect rules after being told to is not acceptable in these channels.23:52
LjLyou just stated that you don't care about that.23:52
LjLso long.23:52
bruce89well, for that, I'm sorry23:52
LjLno, you aren't sorry23:52
LjL[00:49:02] <LjL> bruce89: exactly, how were you insulted, after i had given the !stop?23:52
LjL[00:49:25] <bruce89> I was called a troll and various things23:52
LjL[00:49:41] <bruce89> I am most certainly not23:53
LjL[00:49:44] <LjL> the word "troll" never appears after me giving !stop23:53
LjL[00:50:29] <bruce89> I don't care23:53
LjLif you were sorry you wouldn't say this23:53
bruce89I can read above thank you23:53
LjLand, for context23:53
LjL!stop23:53
ubottuNOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.23:53
LjLi think that's pretty clear. it tells you to stop.23:53
LjLyou didn't.23:53
LjLeveryone else dropped it after i gave that.23:53
LjLyou didn't.23:53
bruce89fair enough23:53
bruce89I find things far to heavy handed anyway23:55
LjLthat's your prerogative to think it's that way23:55
bruce89you see, that's how you're supposed to take someone's opinion23:56
bruce89instead of saying you're wrong, and are therefore a troll who must be banished23:56
LjLi didn't ban you because of that23:56
LjLi did ban you because i warned that the argument in #ubuntu-offtopic had to STOP, and if not, further action would be taken23:57
LjLeveryone else stopped. you did not. further action was taken.23:57
bruce89well, that's what led to me being rather annoyed23:57
LjLplain and simple23:57
LjLwhat, specifically?23:57
bruce89I do tend to ramble on mind you23:57
bruce89 bruce89: what experience?  all I've seen of you is you whining and bitching about stuff that isn't a problem23:58
popeybruce89: is this discussion really a worthwhile use of yours and LjLs time right now?23:58
bruce89<snuxoll> bruce89: I don't care what you contribute, this channel is here so ubuntu users can have a place to discuss various things, and you're just being a little troll23:58
bruce89I have loads of time23:58
LjLno, sorry, you still don't get my point i think23:58
LjLi don't care what happened before i gave !stop23:58
LjLwhen i gave !stop, that meant i felt that the discussion had turned into a flamewar23:59
LjL(which it most certainly had)23:59
LjLso it had to stop.23:59
bruce89fine, <snuxoll> bruce89: then welcome to my /ignore, it's usually a pretty lonely place23:59
bruce89<snuxoll> bruce89: must you continue whining?23:59
bruce89both of which were after23:59

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