[09:15] <thorwil> julian: good morning! i have to talk with you about the countdown banner. have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/JauntyCountdownBanners#White, please
[09:34] <julian> thorwil, hi there! how are you?
[09:35] <thorwil> julian: i'm fine except for being very unhappy with the white text
[09:35] <julian> unhappy?
[09:36] <thorwil> julian: i hope that you see that it rips the design apart
[09:36] <julian> not at all :-). it's right on brand
[09:36] <julian> i'd keep the 9.04 in orange thoug
[09:36] <julian> though
[09:36] <julian> this way, it matches the new cd artwork perfectly
[09:37] <julian> i love your design
[09:37] <thorwil> it might match the cd art, but it is very unharmonious inside my design :(
[09:38] <julian> how about you change the 9.04 back to orange and see how you feel then...
[09:38] <thorwil> julian: if you want that sort of consistency, you should offer a guideline at the start of the countdown call for entries. or you have to doit internally
[09:39] <julian> we will in the future - we're currently working on brand guidelines as we speak as we havent had any up until now
[09:40] <thorwil> i'm pretty sure making the 9.04 orange will only introduce even more unrest
[09:42] <thorwil> julian: if you insist on white, i will have to try to adapt the colors of the rendering. as it is on the wiki, i can't stand with my name for it
[09:45] <thorwil> colored logo and white text work very well with the background, i have to admit. but i miss the connection to the rendered text
[09:46] <julian> i think you're being hard on yourself. your design is really good. it's classy. introducing the white makes is right on brand which only enhances it
[09:47] <julian> this isnt a personal thing - its a keeping the brand consistent thing
[09:47] <julian> if we introduce an orange colour to the brand, its like were saying its ok for others to do this which dilutes the brand
[09:49] <thorwil> i do understand that point of view, but i think the logo and type are so strong shape-wise, that i wouldn't be so restrictive
[09:50] <thorwil> julian: ok, then. i will try to adjust the rendering. if that doesn't work, i'm ok with going with what i have now
[09:51] <julian> you should be proud of your work. i've noticed your other contributions since i arrived at canonical and we're delighted with what you do
[09:51] <thorwil> thanks!
[09:51] <julian> try making the 9.04 orange and see how you feel then...
[09:54] <thorwil> julian: to be sure: you mean the color of the left dot of the logo, righ?
[09:57] <thorwil> julian: can i have peek at the cd artwork?
[10:00] <julian> not quite - i mean on your 'white' proposal, keep the circle of friends brand as you have it...
[10:00] <julian> keep the 'ubuntu' in white as you have it...
[10:00] <julian> but change the '9.04' from white to orange.
[10:01] <julian> i cant release the artwork yet i'm afraid as it isnt fully signed off yet :-(
[10:05] <thorwil> julian: what i meant: shall i use the orange from the left dot of the Circle-of-Friends for the 9.04? or any orange i see fit? :)
[10:06] <julian> ah - sorry...
[10:06] <julian> yes - use the orange from the c-o-f dot
[10:07] <thorwil> ok
[10:08] <thorwil> puts a lot of emphasis on "ubuntu" between logo an 9.04
[10:10] <thorwil> julian: mayne my last question for now ... what font and relative size are used for the 9.04 on the cd artwork?
[10:27] <julian> were keeping the font the same - no change. the 9.04 is the same size as the ubuntu label
[17:09] <thorwil> julian: besides the obvious need for color correction, how do you feel about http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/485382/1_desktop_test.png ?
[17:11] <thorwil> damn
[21:08] <thorwil> newz2000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/JauntyCountdownBanners#Final,%20with%20slideshow
[21:08] <thorwil> all images in a tar.bz2 linked on the wiki
[21:16] <Turl> thorwil: hi, nice countdown :) I really like it
[21:16] <thorwil> Turl: thanks :)
[21:19] <thorwil> good night!
[21:19] <knome> thorwil, imho the monitor could be bigger in the first slide
[21:20] <knome> night