[00:41] <seele> Riddell: did you ever ping Artemis_Fowl about kgrubeditor?
[02:35] <nixternal> why do people find me scary?
[02:35] <nixternal> what have I ever done to provoke that?
[02:35] <nixternal> yes, I am talking about you maco :p
[02:35] <LjL> nixternal: well at least you are not mneptok
[02:35] <vorian> AHHH!
[02:35] <vorian> it's nixternal :o
[02:36] <nixternal> I am a little guy with a pretty face :D
[02:36] <nhandler> nixternal: I take it you saw the blog post ;)
[02:36] <vorian> I was more scared of Ubuntu Developers after I met some
[02:36] <nixternal> ya, she only brought up the tequila since I was drinking it at about 10am when we were in Ohio :)
[02:37] <nixternal> the only one that scares me is the Foundations guy...he is way bigger than I am
[02:37] <nixternal> I just brain farted and forgot his name
[02:37] <nixternal> Robbie Williamson
[02:37] <nixternal> coolest dude on earth, but my god he is a big ol' boy
[02:38] <nixternal> I found out that my buddy who just moved down to Austin, TX Robbie's kid and my buddies kid go to school with each other
[02:38] <nixternal> from what I hear, Robbie drives a pimpin' car with Ubuntu license plates
[02:39] <nhandler> Isn't Kirkland down in that area too?
[02:39]  * vorian is guilty of that
[02:39] <nhandler> vorian: What does your plate say?
[02:39] <nixternal> I think Dustin lives down there as well
[02:39] <nixternal> Kubuntu
[02:39] <vorian> nhandler: two guesses
[02:39] <nixternal> I won!
[02:39] <nixternal> mine used to say GNULNX
[02:40] <nixternal> but for some reason this stupid state wouldn't let me transfer them to my new car
[02:40] <vorian> nhandler: this is me looking fatter http://machine-crusade.net/blog/2009/01/12/ubuntu-ohio/
[02:40]  * vorian has lost 50 lbs since this picture
[02:40] <nixternal> my Civic had GNULNX and my IS300 had KDE
[02:41] <vorian> awesomeness
[02:41] <nixternal> vorian: seriously?
[02:41] <vorian> yes!
[02:41] <nixternal> wow dude, that is insane
[02:41] <vorian> yes, I got serious
[02:41] <nixternal> I didn't think you were that big to begin with
[02:41] <nhandler> vorian: You even got blue letters
[02:41] <vorian> I was pissed about all my cloths getting smaller
[02:41] <nixternal> heh
[02:42] <vorian> clothes even
[02:42] <nixternal> I am trying to gain weight, but I am stuck at 235 pounds
[02:42] <vorian> I was at about 216 on jan 1
[02:42] <vorian> monday I weighed in at 168
[02:44] <nixternal> that's almost 50 poinds in 2 months, that is damn impressive
[02:45] <vorian> danke
[02:45] <nhandler> That is a little under a pound a day
[02:45] <nixternal> diet and exercise big time I take it?
[02:45] <nixternal> some Hydroxycut?
[02:45] <vorian> it's actually been 10 weeks and 5 days
[02:45] <vorian> no exercise
[02:45] <nixternal> seriously? didn't even watch your diet?
[02:45] <vorian> nothing other than 1 vitimin a day
[02:46] <nixternal> holy shite that is whicked
[02:46] <vorian> oh, yeah - the diet is insane
[02:46]  * vorian pulls it up
[02:46] <nixternal> I can drop 15 pounds in about a week with hydroxycut to either a) cut weight, or b) when I was doing body building I used it to cut up before an event
[02:46] <vorian> (it's prescribed, so don't worry)
[02:47] <vorian> my cholesterol was a bit high
[02:47] <nixternal> my col and bp has always been good, and my diet is horrible
[02:48] <nixternal> I went from eating steak, fish, and turkey 20 times a day to eating like 1 meal a day
[02:48] <nixternal> I just don't find myself getting hungry all that much anymore, but when I do, watch out..I will eat any and everything placed in front of me
[02:48] <vorian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/134588/
[02:48] <vorian> I can choose 1 line from each meal, each day
[02:49] <nixternal> 1 egg? that would piss me off :)
[02:49] <vorian> :)
[02:49] <nixternal> when I get back into the gym, my breakfast usually consists of:
[02:49] <nixternal> 8 eggs (6 whites only, 2 full)
[02:50] <nixternal> 1 banana
[02:50] <nixternal> 1/2 gallon of water
[02:50] <nixternal> 1 protein shake (omg so nasty)
[02:50] <vorian> nod
[02:50] <nixternal> then 1 hour later, i show up to the gym, pound another 1/2 gallon of water and a HUGE protein shake with a power bar (usually a snickers) :)
[02:51] <vorian> haha
[02:51] <nixternal> then after that, I am supposed to eat good for the rest of the day, but I never do
[02:51] <nixternal> its expensive to do that man
[02:51] <nixternal> my grocery bill was like $400/week
[02:51] <nixternal> just for me!
[02:51] <vorian> i can only immagine
[02:52] <nixternal> i got hooked on whole foods, so that wasted a lot of the money
[02:52] <vorian> I save so much money by not eating out for lunch everyday
[02:52] <vorian> or dinner
[02:52] <nixternal> then after reading about the organic food, it isn't all that good for you when you body build
[02:52] <vorian> or breakfast
[02:52] <nixternal> I have no money :p
[02:52] <vorian> organic food is a crock
[02:52] <nixternal> so send me some of what you are saving
[02:52] <vorian> HA!
[02:52] <nixternal> that way it will not be a culture shock to you
[02:53] <vorian> it goes right back into diapers
[02:53] <nixternal> well, now you just need to fix that problem, learn to use the toilet you lazy bum!
[02:53] <vorian> plus, i figure this is good training for when we are a third world country
[02:54] <nixternal> i thought we already were?
[02:54] <nixternal> you haven't seen third world until you visit the ghetto areas in chicago...it is so sad
[02:54] <vorian> we aren't using trillion dollar bills yet
[02:54] <nixternal> it has gotten so bad
[02:54] <nixternal> they just raised our taxes here again
[02:55] <vorian> i've been to detriot, i can't immagine anything worse
[02:55] <vorian> (no offense jcastro)
[02:55] <nixternal> good reason to quit smoking....buy cigarettes locally, $10, travel 30 miles, $6...that is per pack
[02:55] <vorian> really?
[02:55] <nixternal> detroit is better than it was in the 80s and 90s I think
[02:55] <vorian> I wouldn't know
[02:55] <nixternal> then again, I live in the murder capital of the united states
[02:56] <nixternal> and we will get it again this year...we are off to a great start
[02:56] <vorian> Every summer, our company has a meeting at the GM center (for what reason i'll never figure out)
[02:56] <vorian> Chicago is?
[02:56] <nixternal> yup
[02:56] <vorian> wow
[07:02] <maco> nixternal: people exist larger than you that aren't football players?
[07:03] <maco> vorian: well i kinda figured you wouldnt be scary because you're a forum guy
[07:12] <maco> nixternal: and its not individuals that are scary necessarily. its the entire concept of The Developers
[07:12] <maco> breaking down The Developers into "a bunch of really nice, awesome people who just happen to have been at this a bit longer" makes you lot less scary
[09:18] <Mamarok> omg, who did this kpackagekit? The usuability is worse than it was in Adept, so not really an improvement...
[09:19]  * Mamarok will continue to use synaptic, at least *that* is usable, pitty it is so ugly...
[10:28] <Tm_T> Mamarok: wajig!
[10:28]  * Tm_T hides
[11:09] <Mamarok> question about Jaunty: has any of these packages been renamed?
[11:10] <Mamarok> kde-devel build-essentials
[11:11] <Mamarok> -s
[11:11] <Mamarok> I get errosr that shouldn't exist, like C++ compiler missing, nad I'm pretty sure everything is installed
[11:11] <Mamarok> :(
[11:12] <Mamarok> errors*
[11:25] <freinhard> hmm build-essentials should pull in g++.
[11:31] <freinhard> s/build-essentials/build-essential/
[11:44] <Mamarok> freinhard: yes, that's what it does, still, I did a clean install of Alpha 6 and added my usual packages, can't build amarok anymore :(
[11:45] <Mamarok> maybe it0s a buggy ccache package, who knows
[12:24] <Mamarok> btw, what is this konsole-kit-daemon for? It runs like 30+ instances here
[12:29] <jpds> Monitoring logins I think.
[12:30] <jpds> Yeah, consolekit package description reveals all.
[12:48] <Mamarok> jpds: well, why does it have to run thaqt many instances by default?
[12:48] <Mamarok> looks like a bug to me
[12:55] <Quintasan> Riddell: ping
[13:31] <cumulus007> Is there an add-on to integrate FF nicely with KDE?
[13:31] <cumulus007> such as file dialog replacements
[13:37] <ScottK> There has been some discussion, but nothing as solid as a plan that I'm aware of.
[13:46] <freinhard> wasn't there a poject that aimed to port ff to qt?
[13:47] <freinhard> seems to be a bit out of date: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/
[13:51] <freinhard> looks like cairo-qt already hit the mozilla-central repo: https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Pjohnsen/MozillaQtBuild
[14:31] <freinhard> hmm UXA doesn't seem to be that stable yet. get graphics freezes after alt+tab from time to time.
[17:39] <ScottK> freinhard: Last I heard of someone trying it the Qt port was pretty crashy.
[17:40] <freinhard> ScottK: and i guess that won't really improve. nokia got webkit for maemo so why put efforts into another engine?
[17:53] <maco> hey! the persistent update notification thingy is back in kde! *hugs for whomever did that*
[18:13] <nixternal> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/jaunty-alpha-5-ramblings
[18:13] <nixternal> Good job everyone, there are some really nice comments there about all of your hard work
[18:15] <ScottK> Nice
[18:28] <claydoh> yes, there are almost no anti-kde4 rants going on anymore ;)
[18:30] <claydoh> great job folks! Jaunty rocls
[18:30] <claydoh> s/rocks/rocls
[19:19] <kb9vqf> If I specify multiple directories in the KDEDIRS environment variable, which directory will override the others if there is a conflict?
[19:20] <kb9vqf> For example, if I set KDEDIRS to /dira/:/dirb/, and a config file exists in both, where will KDE read the confguration from, /dira or /dirbv
[19:21] <kb9vqf> ScottK: I think you might know the answer? :-)
[19:23] <kb9vqf> Right now, from what I have read, the configuration file should be loaded from /dirb, but I wanted confirmation before rolling out an update
[19:33] <maco> which part of kde needs mysql?
[19:33] <maco> is that akonadi?
[19:41] <Lure> maco: akonadi and amarok (embedded)
[20:19] <maco> Lure: well amarok's not running, so im going to guess akonadi is the reason mysqld_safe is using all of one of my cores
[20:20] <Lure> maco: yes, as amarok uses embedded version (I think no process is started)
[20:25] <jussi01> Hrm, thats frustrating. power management keeps turning my screen off while Im watching a movie...
[20:26] <Riddell> yeah dragon needs to add fake keystrokes
[20:27] <jussi01> ahh
[20:27] <jussi01> so its a known bug?
[20:27] <jussi01> also, what happened to my restart and logout buttons? I just get shut down :/
[20:33] <Riddell> jussi01: when doing what?
[20:34] <jussi01> Riddell: using the shutdown plasmoid, used to bring up all three options, now only the one.
[20:35] <Riddell> I see a lock/logout plasmoid, that brings up all three
[20:36] <jussi01> yep, thats the one, only brings up one here.
[20:36] <jussi01> same with the logout bit in lancelot.
[20:38] <Riddell> running KDM?
[20:38] <jussi01> yes.
[20:39] <jussi01> its a mostly standard install
[20:39] <jussi01> nvidia if it means anything.
[20:39] <kb9vqf> If I specify multiple directories in the KDEDIRS environment variable, which directory will override the others if there is a conflict?
[20:39] <kb9vqf> For example, if I set KDEDIRS to /dira/:/dirb/, and a config file exists in both, where will KDE read the confguration from, /dira or /dirbv
[20:39] <kb9vqf> Right now, from what I have read, the configuration file should be loaded from /dirb, but I wanted confirmation before rolling out an update
[20:41] <Riddell> kb9vqf: could say, can't you test it and find out?
[20:41] <kb9vqf> Riddell: I have tested it and it seems to be /dirb; I just wanted to make absolutely sure, so that I don't end up with KDE3.5 looking at KDE4 stuff and breaking itself :-)
[20:42] <kb9vqf> The precedence is also reversed from the XDG and PATH environment variables, which is a bit odd
[21:05] <nhandler> Hey apachelogger
[21:05] <apachelogger> hola
[21:17] <jussi01> apachelogger: this sucks, we want you back. tell your employer you cant work any more.
[21:17] <jussi01> :P
[21:17] <apachelogger> not as easy as that :P
[21:17]  * apachelogger isw ondering if claydoh is around
[21:24] <Riddell> maybe we could petition the Austrian government to allow free software as valid civilian service
[21:24] <jussi01> Riddell: brilliant idea :D
[21:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: thought about that myself, then again it would require FLOSS to be used in public service
[21:27]  * apachelogger should launch a lobby for that :D
[21:27] <jussi01> it isnt yet?
[21:27] <jussi01> you guys are way behind...
[21:27] <apachelogger> *nod*
[21:27] <apachelogger> the chancellor's office used mediawiki at some point
[21:27] <apachelogger> dunno if that is still the case
[21:29] <apachelogger> http://www.ag.bka.gv.at/index.php/Hauptseite
[21:30] <apachelogger> though ... http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=*.bka.gv.at
[21:32] <apachelogger> actually it would be interesting how much money austria is spending on MS licenses ... the ministry of education is paying for the licenses of all schools, so that would at least be windows +  windows server + office
[21:35] <maco> hey speaking of dragon... (what someone was...a bit ago) dragon occasionally decides that i'm not allowed to grab n drag the slider for moving through the video
[21:35] <maco> (a bit = an hour)
[21:35] <maco> is that happening to any of you / is it known?
[21:36] <apachelogger> hm
[21:36] <apachelogger> I would guess that either xine got a problem with the file, or phonon is bugged
[21:36] <jussi01> maco: Ive had that with the volume
[21:36] <apachelogger> maco: what file format(s) are affected?
[21:37] <maco> i only use dragon for DVDs so um...DVDs
[21:37] <maco> sometimes it works
[21:37] <maco> most of the time, it doesn't. sometimes it'll be working and then stop working, or it won't be working, and then it'll work
[21:37] <maco> the little handle on the slider glows blue if it's going to work.
[21:38] <apachelogger> maco: try to catch eean in #dragonplayer
[21:38] <maco> ok
[21:39] <apachelogger> could be mostly anything from qt, oxygen, dragon, phonon to xine
[21:39] <JontheEchidna> or X :D
[21:40] <Nightrose> can i get a package of kdevelop for kde 4 somewhere for intrepid?
[21:40] <maco> i havent noticed problems with the kmix slider...thatst he only other slider i can think of in existence though...
[21:42] <apachelogger> hm
[21:42] <apachelogger> http://www.osor.eu/news/at-new-business-network-to-track-governments-use-of-open-source lobbies for the win :D
[21:42] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: unlikely, it would probably be more spread if it is an X issue
[21:43] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: however it could be that dragon got it's own slider widget which exposes some issue in Qt/Oxygen
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> possible
[21:43]  * apachelogger finds it more likely that the issue is in the sound stack though
[21:43] <maco> hahaha
[21:43] <apachelogger> s/sound/sound&video
[21:44] <maco> well there's a sound developer sitting only 15 feet from me...
[21:44] <maco> should i stare at him til he goes "huh? what?"
[21:44] <dtchen> ("sound" already triggered my nick highlight)
[21:44] <JontheEchidna> haha
[21:44] <maco> oh
[21:46] <apachelogger> hm
[21:46] <apachelogger> oh
[21:46] <apachelogger> open windows!
[21:46] <apachelogger> no wonder it is cold in here
[21:51] <claydoh> apachelogger: check your email, Mr. Bunny
[21:52] <JontheEchidna> lol @ bug 346503
[22:02] <apachelogger> claydoh: re'd