/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/21/#kubuntu.txt

nashka00:00
DragnslcrNothing significant that I've seen00:00
DragnslcrOccassional rendering bugs, but that may be video drivers00:00
GentooJohnnyKDE seems to be self-destructing in front of my eyes though too.00:00
GentooJohnnysometimes the entire interface just crashes.00:00
PodeCoetstupid question, but when downloading usng ktorrent - If you add multiple trackers, shouldn't the seeders and leechers of all the trackers get merged?00:01
GentooJohnnyand everytime it does the graphics problems just seem to worsen00:01
GentooJohnnyI really like KDE better than gnome these days but its just these quirkly little things that build up to something quite annoying.00:02
GentooJohnnyso Dragnslcr you suggest I would have better luck just upgrading to KDE 4.2?00:03
GentooJohnnyI don't want to have to kill xorg everytime I want the icons to be redrawn.00:05
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DragnslcrGentooJohnny- yeah, I highly recommend 4.200:12
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Guest54945hello00:26
Guest54945anyone out there? i'm not sure if i'm doing this right00:26
Guest54945anyone?00:26
Guest54945IF there is anyone out there i'm trying to figure out how to use the wobbly windows and other effects in kubuntu00:27
Guest54945i have the simple thing installed and have enabled them but my stuff don't work.00:28
Guest54945am i just not doing something or being really stupid? i was able to do it ubuntu00:28
ubuntu__hello!00:32
ubuntu__I've a very, very big problem with my kubuntu 8.10 desktop.00:32
ubuntu__today i tried to install arch, and for that i had to modify the partition table. to remove arch, because i didn't get the internet workig, i tried to find the partition manager i used in the arch-installation, and i tried "fsck"... since that, i can't access my main hard drive with my kubuntu desktop. The complete harddrive is only displayed as one big partition without a filesystem set :(00:33
ubuntu__is there any way to get access to my files thet were on this hard drive or even repair the made damage? :(00:34
ubuntu__help would be very nice ! :)00:34
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Angerfistmoin ! ;D00:50
__mikemI have a problem. Firefox suddenly will not launch. It causes a bus error upon startup. Deleting the .mozilla dirrectory didn't work. Reinstalling firefox also didn't work.00:58
dr_willisreinstalling is windows thinking..00:58
dr_willisrun it from a terminal - look for error messages00:58
dr_willistry a new user also. seeif it crashes for them00:58
__mikemdr_willis, I did. It just says bus error00:59
__mikemdoes root count as another user?00:59
dr_willisthers some --OPTIONS for firefox also00:59
dr_willisi wouldent use root. but ya coudl try i guess00:59
xoenhi all01:13
xoenhow can I upgrade my kubuntu installation to the alpha?01:13
grennIs there a fix for page display through firefox, my gmail looks ugly...01:14
xoenis there something like the ubuntu update-manager -d? thank yoi01:14
xoenyou01:14
grennAnybody use firefox in here?01:16
xoenhi grenn I use it, it rocks01:16
grennHow did you fix the display, I just install kubuntu and my page display sucks... like when I get into gmail it looks ugly...01:17
xoenGMail looks good here, but there is some problem with the tabs, and in fullscreen mode sometimes it blinks, it's strange, but I use it anyway01:18
tokeefeIs there a way to monitor the GPU with the open source ATI driver?01:18
grennso you had to do noting after you installed it?01:18
xoengreenn in the preferences I "installed" the fix for the GTK+ applications, or something similar, but it's strange anyway, at the moment I'm using ubuntu so I can't help you, I'm sorry01:20
grennpreferences in firefox or kubuntu01:22
xoengrenn: sorry, preferences in KDE, I don't remember exactly, Appearence I think01:23
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grennok01:25
snarksteri just complied the compat networking stuff for ath5k but how do i set it to autoload the module?01:46
snarksteri did really good tho up to that point01:46
snarksteranyone talking in here or just walking through?02:03
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thechemicalcrewhi02:48
thechemicalcrewam  bueno quisiera padir  un poco de ayuda02:49
thechemicalcrewsi se puede verdad o solo   es algo para que este el el ubuntu  y ya?02:49
BluesKaj!es02:53
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:53
BluesKajoops02:53
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etfbIs there a way to burn an .iso to a CD that isn't K3B?  K3B is a useless piece of shit.03:12
xjjketfb: what's wrong with k3b...03:12
etfbxjjk: It doesn't work.  It claims to burn CDs, but fails with unspecified errors on verification.  I nearly sent my laptop back for expensive repairs because of it, but it happens in any machine I put it in, with any brand of CDs.03:13
xjjketfb: how did you verify that it wasn't your laptop?03:13
xjjketfb: k3b is just a frontend to several command-line burning utilities03:14
cjaeanyone here use amarok frequenty? mainly to listen to shoutcast streams, I need to know how to not have to press stop to get it to start a new stream eg. shoutcast03:14
etfbxjjk: Oh, I'm sure it's possible that every computer I use k3b in just coincidentally has hardware problems that disappear when I install Windows XP and try again.  That's very likely.03:14
etfbxjjk: Maybe it's leprechauns.03:15
xjjkwell, if you're having problems with it, you'll most likely have problems with other recording software03:16
xjjkhave you tried k3b's GNOME counterpart? Brasero I think?03:17
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k0ppmy kubuntu machine is _constantly_ emitting some noise from the speakers.  its just static.  but.. when music or something plays, the static gets quieter.  this issue _only_ exists on kubuntu for this machine... sound works fine on my Windows and FreeBSD partition.  any ideas?03:17
etfbk0pp: I get that when the microphone is not muted.  Go into kmix and fiddle with the inputs.03:18
xjjkk0pp: is this a laptop? do you have a mic? have you checked it's muted?03:19
k0pphrm, i'l go check03:19
k0ppone sec03:19
k0ppno its a desktop, fyi.03:19
cjaexjjk: k3b was very good but either ubuntu or the maintainer had dumbed it down so much that it is starting to get bab03:19
k0ppxjjk, etfb, no, the MIC led is not on03:19
cjaexjjk: I just recently replaced my plextor 716a  to a lite on drive and errors I was experincing with k3b are less now03:20
k0ppinfact all of the input devices are off03:20
etfbk0pp: Try other inputs.  There are a bunch of them.03:20
k0ppthey're _all_ off :/03:20
xjjkcjae: is that k3b or the underlying software, though...03:20
k0ppwhat the hell could be making that static03:21
cjaeplex=$150 and lite on = $3603:21
etfbk0pp: I seem to recall there was a way to make more options appear, but I can't find it...03:21
cjaexjjk: you can select two different cli backends in the option irrc03:21
etfbHey Slartibartfast! How are the fjords?03:21
k0ppetfb, you can right click on the tab you want for more03:21
k0ppi have them all enabled03:22
k0ppand they're all off ;/03:22
Slartibartfastetfb: you like them ? :-) ...03:22
etfbk0pp: Best I can suggest is a process of elimination.  Turn off all inputs and outputs, then switch them on one at a time until you get something useful...03:23
cjaexjjk: try gnome baker for your iso and see though but it sucks to have to put gnome crap in a kde environement but baker uses dd to copy iso to disk03:23
k0ppetfb, i've been doing that for like 20 minutes lol.03:23
xjjkcjae: thanks, etfb was having the k3b issues, though03:23
etfbk0pp: Hmmm... got me stumped then.03:23
etfbcjae: Baker, is it?  I don't mind installing GNOME stuff if it works.03:24
cjaeoh sorry doing to many things at once03:24
cjaeetfb: I worked for me when k3b wouldn't I works good for isos here, but like I said all work now I replaced my drive03:25
etfbcjae: Me too.  Installing Kubuntu on my daughter's laptop (finally found my old install CD cos I can't make a new one) and waiting for the BSG torrents to come online...03:25
cjaek3b used to never ever fail (edgy) but since 8.04 I it is very strange03:26
etfbOh terrific.  Installation failed halfway throug because THAT CD is frakked.03:26
* cjae misses edgy03:26
etfbTime to go install some GNOME crap and waste another CD.  Linux TCO (Total Cost of Ownership): 4 CDs this morning and counting...03:27
hixetfb: no usb-stick around? may save you some troubles. i gave up using cds while ago03:28
cjaeetfb: I don't know if you know, at least for me, that drives will appear to even when they are failing03:28
cjaeappear to be good03:29
cjaethat should say03:29
cjaedoes img burn work with wine?03:29
etfbcjae: If this one-month-old top-of-the-line Toshiba laptop's CD drive is failing already, I'll eat my hat.03:29
cjaeI bought one of those two 1/2 years ago and it was a POS03:30
cjaethe drive failed twice in three months and then the graphics card went03:30
etfbcjae: I bought an Acer that was only useful as a toboggan, but I've never had any trouble with Toshibas.03:31
cjaeIt was a toshiba with matshitu or whatever it called multidisc drive I think the lappy was called a Qosmio03:31
cjaelol03:31
etfbcjae: Well - apart from the video drivers being too new for Intrepid to handle, although Hardy managed OK once I found the right binary.03:32
cjaemy girlfriend at the time left me and that is the only thing she wanted to take so I gladly let here take it03:32
etfbcjae: Would have been nicer to give her a venereal disease, from the sound of it...03:32
cjaeyou have no idea03:33
cjaethe new g/f is way better, actually not even a comparison03:33
* etfb cherishes his ignorance in the matter of cjae's girlfriends03:33
cjae:)03:33
etfbRight... let's see if Baker is any better than the braindead k3b...03:34
cjaetoshiba = $3700 CAD at the time :(03:35
cjaeI also bought my mother a dvd recorder toshiba, that had both vhs and dvd and hdmi, it only plays dvd-r's and the eject sometimes doesn't work without a hard reboot03:37
cjaesome divx xvid will not play, ever03:37
cjaetoshiba dvd player = $361 and no firmware updates to boot03:38
cjaeboth from best buy03:38
cjaebought a $59 philps from walmart runs circles around the toshiba03:39
etfbHmmm... Baker seems like typical GNOME software: no options to control it beyond what the nanny-programmer decided was good for you... and if anything goes wrong, the error messages are gibberish because GNOME programmers don't know how to handle exceptions (side effect of a C based system instead of C++).03:39
cjaeya03:39
cjaeis nero linux an option?03:40
cjaeIve heard good things about it03:40
etfbcjae: I don't use proprietary software if I can avoid it.  The risk is too great.03:40
cjaei c03:40
Slartibartfasti tried nero linux once ... after that the device disappeared in k3b ... :-(03:41
Slartibartfastnever again nero on my linux03:41
cjaeit sucks burning in cli too03:41
cjaewell I dont like it as much03:41
Slartibartfastnot if you know what to do ...03:41
etfbHey wow!  At 14.39, my time, I had approximately 2 minutes to go.  Now at 14.42 I have three minutes to go.  Baker uses Microsoft minutes!03:42
etfbAt this rate, it will take approximately 2.6 times forever!03:43
cjaeSlartibartfast: funny you should say that my friend bought a new burner and it came with nero 7 essential under windows of course, I told him not to install it if cdburnerxp worked, which it did well03:43
cjaeso he did anyway now cdburner will not work no matter what you do to the machine03:44
Slartibartfaston windows i also don't use nero ... ridiculous nero 9 is more then a gig to burn some cd's and dvd's .... for iso's on windows i use imgburn03:45
etfb... 4 minutes remaining...03:45
cjaeI haven't tried it yet but see how dd is being used can you just use that from burning isos etfb03:46
etfbThere was a bug in a version of a CD burner that used to ship regularly with older versions of Windows.  If you used it in XP when it first came out (this is around 2001-2002) it would render the CD drive useless for any purpose until you reinstalled Windows.  Very popular, that was.  The CD software company didn't survive, as I recall...03:46
cjaedd if=/dev/scd0 of=/whateveryourimageis.iso03:47
etfbcjae: Are you sure of that syntax?  I thought if = input file and of = output file.03:47
cjaeright backwards03:48
etfbcjae: Cool.  Worst that could have happened is an ISO file being corrupted I guess, but I'm glad I checked...03:48
Slartibartfasti don't think you can use dd to burn on a cd ... othewise cdrecord was never needed ..03:48
cjaeya im not sure03:48
etfbSlartibartfast: Maybe dd is like fsck and it actually has plugin modules for different situations?03:49
etfbSlartibartfast: So cdrecord is what dd uses under the hood, perhaps?03:49
etfbStill 4 minutes remaining... the suspense is killing me...03:49
Slartibartfastyou can make an iso file from a cd with dd, but not the otherway arround ... writing on a cd asks for a special device access .. but ai am not that technical or programmer03:50
cjaeI know dd is great for non-optical situations I use it quite often, but don't know if would work for this03:50
Slartibartfastcdrecord was a long time the only way to write things to a cd03:51
cjaeetfb: cant you see how gnome is using dd in the show output or whatever03:51
etfbAh - <man cdrecord> doesn't work, but <man wodim> does.03:51
cjaeor is it braseo that shows that03:51
azucarHello03:52
etfbcjae: Nope, just some gibberish.  Noticed that they get their UTF encoding wrong so part of the output is even gibberisher than the rest...03:52
etfbWoohoo!  3 minutes remaining!  May get this done before the heat death of the universe!03:53
etfbSo does GNOME software look less pig-ugly if you use a GNOME window manager?  I can't get over how awful it looks under KDE.03:54
azucarNot really, GNOME will always look bad03:54
etfbTip for programmers: if you're going to have the option to view output from a command-line program, make the window resizable so people can read it...03:55
sukumadei've never been able to get gnome to look as pretty as kde, even with desktop effects03:55
Slartibartfastwodim is a fork of cdrecord ...03:55
etfbSlartibartfast: There you go.  Learn something new every day...03:55
etfb2 minutes remaining... can you feel the excitement building?03:56
Slartibartfast:-)03:56
* Slartibartfast presses F5 on eztv again :-) 03:56
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etfbSlartibartfast: Any sign of it yet?03:57
Slartibartfastnot yet03:57
etfbSlartibartfast: Frak.03:57
Slartibartfasthehehe :-)03:57
etfbSlartibartfast: I'm sure it'll turn out that Starbuck is the first of a new kind of free/open source Cylon, called an Ubulon.  She'll be just like the standard Cylon except you can't get the drivers for her left leg, and her duodenum keeps crashing randomly and you have to reinstall it from source every couple of weeks.04:00
etfbSlartibartfast: And Adama will eventually give up and install Windows XP on her and she'll get a virus and die.  Big finale!04:00
Slartibartfasthehehe04:00
Slartibartfastlol04:00
Slartibartfastwe'll see04:01
etfbThey should have hired me to write for them.  Would have been a hit.04:01
etfbTune in next week and I'll explain how Sylar really gets his powers: sudo brain-get install telekinesis...04:01
Slartibartfastyeah ... now they are just ... so so :-P04:01
etfbCD finished burning.  Let's see if it validates...04:02
Slartibartfastetfb: btw there is an interesting article about this burning software on wikipedia -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wodim04:05
etfbSlartibartfast: Totally OT, but you know about "The Last Frakkin' Special", right?  http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?sub=specials&clip=804:09
WatchBot1etfb, please keep your links on topic and work safe.04:09
etfbHeh... WatchBot knows that "frak" is a rude word... cute.  What If I said "Felgercarb"...04:09
etfbWoohoo!  CD tests out OK!  It worked!04:10
* etfb will only use command-line ISO burning in future. Life is too short to put up with poorly-maintained rubbish like K3B.04:11
sukumadethese college games are killing me04:19
cjaeanyone know how to make the system beep with konversation 1.104:21
cjaeon a message with my nick in it?04:21
* devilsadvocate cant wait for the last BSG episode. its going to be epic04:23
hixcjae: theres a notify->highlight (or similar) checkbox to play sounds04:27
cjaehix can you test me?04:28
hixcjae, test u04:29
cjaenothing04:29
hixtest me plz04:30
cjaehi hix04:30
hixhrm, nothing ,)04:30
cjaewhat is enable system bell on icoming acsii bel04:31
cjaeI am a sever irc noob04:31
hixits an ascii control code04:32
cjaeand speller by the looks of it04:32
KiLL13013N0WIs there a visualization program for linux?04:32
cjaevbox vmware04:33
KiLL13013N0Wthanx04:33
devilsadvocateKiLL13013N0W, visualization?04:33
cjaenp04:33
KiLL13013N0Wyes04:33
devilsadvocateas in music > fun graphics?04:33
hixvirtualize visualize... who cares, lol04:33
cjaeopps sorry read wrong04:34
cjaelol04:34
devilsadvocateKiLL13013N0W, ^04:34
phmaAnyone here know about initramfs in ubuntu?04:35
cjaehix can you try now04:36
hixcjae .. trying04:36
cjaenothing04:36
hixcjae: i have no entry for Konversation in system-sounds in kde, i use kde 4.2.1 and Konversation still is 3.5.10... that may cause it04:38
cjaeone more time pls04:38
hixcjae: 1more04:38
cjaethat is the exact some I am using04:40
cjaesame04:40
hixBSG arrived04:41
etfbhix, you beat me to it.  Woo!04:42
hixthe final will be 3 hours splitted in 2 parts, i think ;)04:43
etfbhix: Nope, two hours in one go, but three or more on the DVD.04:45
hixso this is _the_ final now?04:46
husayni want to open .rar file in Kubuntu04:47
husayni cant open it. . its giving an error.. do i need an extra softawre for that04:47
hixhusayn: sudo apt-get install unrar04:48
cjaecjae:  what are you doing04:49
cjaewell that doesn't work04:49
hixcjae: test04:49
hixi#ll try also04:49
cjaei#II04:50
cjaeEnter a string pattern here. Any message received that matches this pattern, anywhere in the message, will activate the highlighting for the message04:50
cjae04:51
cjaeIf you wish, Konversation will play a sound when the pattern is matched04:51
cjaeummm04:51
cjaeif I left the field as new it was beeping from #ubuntu everytime someone said new04:51
cjaevery strange04:52
cjaebut putting it as cjae does not work04:53
hixnot even the soundtest-button works here04:53
cjaemine does04:53
cjaeits very annoying when you ask something and have to stay by the box04:55
husaynhow to open .swf file in kubuntu04:55
hixhusayn: install flash plugin and open in browser or install adobe flash standalone flash player for linux from their website04:56
hixhusayn: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/10/flash_player_10_linux_dev.tar.gz04:58
husaynthanks04:59
husaynis that the standalone player ?04:59
hixyes04:59
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husaynhow to change password of user in Kubuntu hardy05:02
hix husayn: passwd     (as this user)  or   sudo passwd username05:04
husaynthanks05:05
hixyw05:05
husaynis there a sudo command to install flash player standalone05:08
hixtheres no nedd to install (as far as i can remember) , the binary lies there ready to use. just put it somewhere, /usr/bin  or wherever u find it and call it from there05:10
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devilsadvocatecan someone help me get my kmail to accept my gpg keys? I keep getting bad passphrase (without a prompt to enter the passphrase):(05:36
husaynmy external devices are not able to ping me.. i think .... iptables has blocked it05:47
husaynis it right ?05:47
onurdemirhello i need help can anyone me for a few questions pls?05:47
husaynhow to configure tftpd on kubuntu05:53
neptunepinkHelp! My computer's counts one human second as four!06:10
neptunepinkHalp? :/06:11
husaynhow to configure tftpd on kubuntu06:31
stealth-anyone know how well terminator works in KDE?06:32
ThiQuestion about dhcdbd on Ubuntu 8.04.2. (I'm not receiving an answer on #ubuntu, so thought to ask here) Which object is /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket linked to?  What type of link is it? See pastebin for details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/134656/06:44
stdinThi: it's not a link, it's a socket06:46
ThiSorry.  I've only recently started to pull away from the GUI...06:46
stdinit's how some applications communicate with/through the system message bus06:46
stdinit's for inter-process-communication06:47
Thikk makes sense06:47
stdinit should be there when dbus starts probably06:47
stdinyou can try "/etc/init.d/dbus status" to see if dbus is running, and "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" to start it if it's not06:49
Thiagreed.  I found the directory /var/run/dbus/ to not exist when I was looking into if it was really there.  I have a feeling that it's suppost to be recreated upon each boot somewhere.  Shall have to google this...06:49
Thikk, am doing06:49
Thihrm, it wasn't running.  Upon the starting of it, I was than able to reconfigure dhcdbd without the error pulling up06:51
stdinit should auto-start on boot06:54
Thiagreed06:54
Thiam looking at the rcX directories right now for information on this06:54
stdinit's /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus here06:54
stdinthough it seems it's not started in a single-user/recovery session06:55
husayni want to make a tftp server in kubuntu06:56
husaynhow to make it06:56
Thiodd.  it's not listed.  S24dhcdbd is though06:56
stdinhusayn: probably by installing one of tftpd-hpa, atftpd or tftpd06:59
husayni have installed tftp , and then in Konsole i type tftp and then i dont know its commands06:59
Thiit's listed under rc3.d->rc5.d though06:59
husaynis there any gui program for that06:59
stdinThi: something mush have happened to the link then, try recreating it "sudo ln -s ../init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus"07:00
Thity, i cp'd it, but this is a better idea.07:01
stdinhusayn: I don't know, tftp isn't used much. but the commands should be similar to ftp07:02
Thirestarting07:02
Thiworking now07:05
Thity!07:05
stdinnp :)07:05
ThiI changed my hostname and it got removed somehow...07:06
Thiwas unable to recreate just now for some reason07:06
ThiI did, however, find an interesting error.  Amarok 1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3.2 errors upon loading when the hostname is <hostname>²07:19
jason_jingo.ix.us.dal.net07:25
gnummhi07:32
gnummi use kubuntu hardy with kde 307:32
gnummwhen i wake up my pc from supend to ram, i have no sound07:32
gnummhow could i fix this?07:32
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beardbarcan I have an extra hard drive mount on startup? I like to keep all my media on a seperate drive but finding it diffult to add my collection to amarok07:54
cerecitasbeardbar: fstab should do it07:55
cerecitasi mean you add the hard drive to fstab and should be mounted at startup07:55
beardbarok - ya i  think i found a tutorial, the ubuntu forums are down for me right now07:55
cerecitassame for me07:56
cerecitasanyway it's just about adding one line07:56
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beardbarthink i found it, I had to mount but my extra hd disks first, i did that through dolphin, but doesnt tell me how to see what drive numbers are so I can add em to my /etc/fstab07:58
beardbarcerecitas: do you know a way to view all hd details.07:59
cerecitassecond i will find the command...07:59
cerecitasi am a disaster to remember but got them allgathered07:59
cerecitassudo fdisk -l07:59
cerecitasin a terminal07:59
cerecitaswill give you all the outputs08:00
beardbarthanks got it08:00
cerecitasnp08:00
cerecitasnow does someone exactly which updates need to be enabled on third party software to get amarok2 installed? i already added the repository but it does not want to come :D08:02
cerecitasexactly know*08:02
Slartibartfastbeardbar: in fstab you point to a partition by it's UUID number ... you can find that to do as sudo vol_id /dev/partition08:02
Slartibartfastcerecitas: i think you can get amarok2 to add a ppa repository08:04
cerecitasi added the repository already, the one it says but i do not seem to be able to find amarok2 anywhere08:04
cerecitasso i guessed i should do something else on 3rd party software08:04
Slartibartfasthttp://www.kubuntu.org/amarok2-beta208:05
Slartibartfastor more recent posting : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0.1.108:07
cerecitaslet me see the second because the first i already did08:07
Slartibartfastcerecitas: they are the same instructions08:08
cerecitasi will check if i enabled the recommended updates08:08
Slartibartfastcerecitas: install with sudo apt-get install amarok2 ... i think is the right comamnd08:09
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Slartibartfastcommand08:09
Slartibartfastcerecitas: i just see it's called amarok-kde408:09
cerecitasaha ok sec08:10
TKorvusanyone awake?08:10
cerecitasfew of us TKorvus :p08:10
TKorvusI've just completed an install08:10
cerecitasoh Slartibartfast thanks it isinstalled08:10
Strog_i have an old kubuntu distribution and wanted to do a dist-upgrade from a cd. In sources.list I dont have a cdrom entry so i tries the following command: apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add i get errors on that08:11
SlartibartfastOK08:11
TKorvusi've got some white dots on the left side of my screen.08:11
TKorvusblack screen i should say08:11
TKorvusseems to be froze08:11
TKorvuswould kubuntu set an incorrect resolution during an install?08:12
Strog_uname -r gives me 2.6.17-12-generic08:12
noren_!upgrade08:12
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading08:12
TKorvusdid you all fall asleep or something?08:14
SlartibartfastDoes anybody know a rnice looking chess program ?08:14
Slartibartfastnice :-)08:14
cerecitasprobably we are just not awake yet TKorvus...08:14
TKorvusam i on the right track with my problem?08:15
TKorvusor has someone else experienced this?08:15
cerecitasI think you are in the right place but i have not really get it... you just did a fresh install and right now you have dots in the screen?08:15
cerecitassorry still with my 1st coffee08:15
TKorvuscorrect08:16
TKorvusi had a graphics card in at first.  dots were in middle of screen08:16
TKorvusi removed the graphics card and now they're on the left08:16
cerecitasbut you have desktop right?08:16
TKorvusno08:16
TKorvusblack screen with the dots in the middle on the left.08:17
cerecitaswhich graphic card you are using?08:17
TKorvusmx44008:17
TKorvusi'm using onboard video right now.08:17
cerecitashmm i am not any good with this.. maybe the guys around here could help better08:17
TKorvusdo you know how I can change the resolution?08:18
cerecitashmmm not really... x and i hate each other so i don't mess too much there08:18
TKorvusdo you have access to ubuntu forums?  keeps giving me a database error.08:19
cerecitasseems to be down at the moment08:19
TKorvusok08:20
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TKorvussuppose i'll pole the chan again when more people are awake.08:20
TKorvusnot my fault i work second :)08:20
Slayer... What are Widgets? There is the button on a desktop (or whatever it is) saying Add widgets or something08:24
Strog_when i try apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom/ add to make a distupgrade it fails at the allocation of the Packages file which is actually there. any ideas y it doesn work?08:30
aza#gentoo08:30
cerecitasStrog_:  maybe, and i am not sure about this, you can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the cd rom you have, commenting all the rest of the line08:34
cerecitas*lines08:34
Strog_cerecitas: true but i dont know what to enter exactly08:34
cerecitashmmm do you want to upgrade to intrepid?08:35
cerecitasi can check the name of it on my sources08:35
Strog_cerecitas:i yesterday downloaded the iso of kubuntu so im not sure if it is08:36
cerecitashmmm we would need to know at least if it is intrepid or jaunty...08:37
dwidmannStrog_: alternate iso or desktop iso?08:37
Strog_desktop iso08:37
cerecitasbesides this change you can undo it so it won't harm... should be easy to get back to what you have08:37
cerecitasits about commenting and uncommenting08:38
Strog_ok08:38
cerecitaslet me see08:38
dwidmanndesktop iso can't be used for upgrades, it can only be used for new installs08:38
Strog_so alternate can be used for upgrades?08:38
cerecitasanyway Strog_ why not try a simple dist-upgrade from the repos?08:38
dwidmannStrog_: correct08:38
Strog_ok ill try that get back to you08:39
dwidmannStrog_: all you'll need to do is "sudo apt-cdrom add /dev/cdrom" with the alternate disk in your cd drive and you'll be good to go, I think.08:40
Strog_dwidmann: true but dont u need to add the "add"??08:41
dwidmannI think that part is required actually, maybe not, try it and see :)08:42
Strog_ok08:42
eddyhello08:47
dwidmanneddy: hi08:51
eddyGerman?08:51
dwidmann!de08:52
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.08:52
dwidmannI think...08:53
eddythx08:53
tarfarthello friends08:54
tarfartsmplayer or mplayer actually doesent get sound.08:54
tarfartit plays nicly08:54
tarfarti get sound with vlc. but i dont like vlc for DVDs08:54
dwidmanntarfart: try passing mplayer "-ao alsa"08:55
tarfartwhere is the equivilant location in the gui to set that?08:55
dwidmanntarfart: umm, dunno, guess I'll have to pull it up and look08:56
dwidmannin the gui, right click, preferences, audio tab, click on alsa then click okay08:57
tarfarti dont see alsa under the audio tab08:59
dwidmannshould be like the second one down in the list ...09:00
tarfarti right clicked the stage/movie screen.   options > preferences > general > audio tab09:03
tarfartim on intrepid09:03
tarfartthere's nothing mentioned at all about alsa09:04
dwidmannWhich player are you using ... I was under the impression we were still talking about mplayer and not smplayer or kmplayer or [insert other frontend here]09:04
tarfartoh sorry. im using smplayer09:05
tarfartbut it's just a front end to mplayer, which is the root of the problem.09:05
tarfartsmplayer09:05
dwidmannShould be some way to specify which command to run mplayer with somewhere in the options ... try changing it to "mplayer -ao alsa"09:06
dwidmann(I'd look further, but I don't have smplayer installed at the moment)09:06
tarfartthanx i got alsa selected with regular mplayer09:07
dwidmannnow to see if that even fixes the problem :)09:08
tarfartstill no go on smplayer. i thought smplayer was just a front end to mplayer09:08
dwidmannprobably uses a separate configuration though09:09
beardbarwhats a good video player?09:26
cerecitasfor me vlc is the best09:26
beardbardidnt know they had it for linux09:29
cerecitasjup09:30
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beardbarcerecitas: did ya have to download extra codecs, some of my movies dont have sound09:56
grey08hello10:10
bazhanghi10:10
grey08is there someone can help me?10:11
bazhangask a question and if someone knows they will answer10:12
grey08ok10:12
grey08i just installed kubuntu desktop 8.10 to my Acer 4715z10:12
grey08and then i found that wireless lan , amarok is not wotking10:13
grey08working*10:13
bazhanggrey08, open a konsole and type lspci10:13
bazhanggrey08, then tell us the chipset of the wireless10:13
ubuntu___just trying jaunty live at the moment...10:14
ubuntu___looks really promising :-)10:14
grey08ok, hold on10:14
bazhang!jaunty10:14
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.10:15
grey08after i typed lspci, so many lines came out10:15
p-fOn windows with my dell 640m, when I use my touchpad's scroller and flick it downwards, it keeps sending scroll events until I touch the touchpad again. Is there a way to get this behaviour on kubuntu?10:15
bazhanggrey08, copy and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com10:16
bazhanggrey08, do NOT paste in this channel10:16
grey08for the wireless, it is [ Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev01) ]10:16
bazhanggrey08, have you checked in hardware drivers to see if one is available for that10:17
eddyHey, need German IRC Ubuntu links 4 Irc plz!?10:18
bazhang!de10:18
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:18
p-feddy: versucht #ubuntu.de10:18
eddythanks10:18
p-feddy: oder kubuntu-de :)10:18
bazhangbitte10:18
eddydanke danke10:18
grey08yes, it says avaible10:19
grey08and it says [ this drivers is activated and currently in use ]10:20
grey08i have posted it at paste.ubuntu.com and 13475910:23
tarfartsmplayer doesent work on kbuntu10:25
tarfartwhy is there no sound10:25
grey08go to mixer, and maximum all the volume there10:25
puddlek0pp10:26
tarfartgrey08: been there done that10:26
puddlewoops10:26
tarfarthow is it smplayer kicks ass on gentoo but sucks on kubuntu.  i thought kubuntu was linux for human noobs. and im doing more typing on kubuntu than gentoo.10:26
tarfarti get sound on vlc, mplayer, firefox/youtube, but not mplayer?10:26
tarfartwhats wrong with this linux crap.10:26
tarfarterr but not smplayer.10:27
nyadhi im trying to host online games. I could do it fine in 8.04 but in 8.10 people can't join my game yet they can see it. I have turned off ufw and my router ports are forwarded. What has changed in 8.10 that no longer allows me to host?10:27
panos4everwhich game10:28
bazhangtarfart, please watch the language10:28
tarfarthow do i make it work ?10:28
panos4evernyad10:28
tarfartit's not working.10:28
panos4everwhich game10:28
tarfartlinux is not working.10:28
grey08bazhang, i have post the lines at paste.ubuntu.com/13475910:28
nyadtarfart, hmm if sound works in other apps, I have noticed that in linux some apps have dominated the sound, try rebooting or restarting alsa (if u know how) and then try your player10:29
nyadpanos4ever, warcraft3 with wine, used to work perfectly10:29
nyadpanos4ever, I can join and play just not host10:29
panos4everlol10:30
panos4everdo u have a router???10:30
panos4everdont you?10:30
nyadyes, ports are forwarded10:30
nyadi have a router10:30
panos4everforward port 611210:30
panos4everopen it10:30
bazhanghttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Atheros_AR242x grey0810:30
nyadi can host in windows10:30
tarfartWTF?!?!?!?!?!?  0_010:30
tarfartetc/init.d/alsa-utils restart10:30
tarfartthat did work10:30
tarfarthow do i make it work.10:30
Tm_Ttarfart: don't use those rude abbreviations, thanks10:31
nyadtarfart, compile it yourself then10:31
panos4everdo u have a firewall installed on linux???10:31
tarfartjunk shit linux.... lol compile it.10:31
* tarfart puts the xp cd back in.10:31
bazhangtarfart, stop that10:31
tarfartjunk shit linux garbage sucks.10:31
panos4everwatch your language tartarf10:31
bazhang!ops | tarfart10:31
ubottutarfart: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici or jussi01!10:31
nyadtarfart, i thought u said u were a gentoo user, ??????????????10:31
panos4evertartart10:31
panos4everi have something for u10:32
panos4evertype sudo rm -rf /10:32
bazhangpanos4ever, he is gone10:32
bazhangpanos4ever, dont type that!10:32
panos4everidiot10:32
panos4everok man10:32
panos4everokkkkkkk10:32
bazhangpanos4ever, not even as a joke, never type that10:32
panos4eversorryyyyyyyyyy10:32
nyadi didn't install it manually but it seems ufw was installed. so I disabled ufw10:32
panos4everi know10:32
nyadshame10:33
nyadhe was helping me :(10:33
bazhanghe was rude.10:33
jussi01!danger10:33
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!10:33
nyadi turned off ufw, is there perhaps another firewall/packet filter which is blocking my warcraft and not allowing people to join my game?10:38
jussi01nyad: you checked your routers firewall perhaps?10:48
nyadjussi01, I dont think its that. I can host from windows fine10:48
nyadjussi01, doubt the problem is wine because it worked in 8.04. 8.10 refuses to let me host, but I can do everything else in it10:49
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hixnyad: try    sudo iptables -L     to see if theres a setup10:55
tarfartwhy is hydra not listed under apt-cache search ?10:56
nyadall policy's are set to ACCEPT.  note I have disabled ufw10:56
hix then it should work10:57
nyadwhich is supposed to be a simpler interface to IPtables, (afaik, plz correct if im wrong)10:57
nyadhix yea, thats what I thought....10:57
grey08bazhang, i have followed the instructions at the page u given10:58
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grey08but, until the link to download a file, it seems like...broken10:58
bazhanggrey08, and what were the errors if any10:58
grey08it says error 404, not found10:59
tarfartwhy is hydra not in apt-get ?11:02
tarfartnor listed under apt-cache search11:02
tarfartwhat do i have to type to make it work ?11:02
jussi01and just what is hydra?11:04
hixtarfart: the webserver or the cracktool?11:05
jussi01or the irc client?11:05
hixah yes, hydraIrc11:05
hix ;)11:06
hixthats why hydra ;) lot og heads11:06
hix of11:06
tarfarthix the crack tool11:07
* tarfart wants the crack tool.11:07
hixmaybe kind of philosophy... if you dont can compile it, dont use such tools ;) No, i have no idea11:11
tarfarthuh?11:13
tarfartwhat do i have to type to make it work.11:13
norttHi all11:14
nyad./configure --prefix /usr/local/ && make && sudo make install11:14
norttCan i compile KDE 4.2 from aKubuntu 8.10?11:14
bazhangnortt, no need11:15
bazhangnortt, just enable backports11:15
tarfarthydra-sip.c:4:25: error: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory11:16
tarfarthydra-sip.c:5:25: error: openssl/err.h: No such file or directory11:17
tarfarthydra-sip.c:6:25: error: openssl/md5.h: No such file or directory11:17
tarfartand more errors11:17
norttHow i can enable backports?11:17
bazhangnortt, via the package manager11:17
norttplz describe11:18
tarfartjesus christ!!!!!!!!11:18
tarfartwhat do i have to type to make it work11:18
tarfarti just want a friggen program. sheesh11:18
bazhangtarfart, calm down and watch the language11:18
nortti use Adept11:18
bazhangnortt, that is fine11:18
bazhangnortt, let me open adept and check11:19
tarfartwhat do i have to type to make it work11:19
nyadtarfart, its not so much as to what you have to type as to what you have to read11:19
tarfartwhere is ssl.h11:19
nyadcould be in the openSSL package or tar file11:21
tarfarti have that11:23
tarfarti already ran apt-get install openssl libssl0.9.811:24
bazhangnortt, should be 'unsupported updates' in kubuntu software ; click that, then close and update sources.list11:24
gildoola11:24
bazhang!br11:25
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.11:25
gildoBr11:26
bazhanggildo, /join #ubuntu-br11:26
nyadtarfart, try installing the -dev versions of those packages as well11:27
nortt!uck11:28
ubottuUCK is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/11:28
nortt!ressurector11:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ressurector11:28
norttAnd where i can download  Latest kernel?11:32
nyadkernel.org11:33
bazhangnortt, you wish to compile for yourself?11:33
bazhangnortt, that is completely unsupported of course (ie you are on your own)11:33
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nyadwhat free/opensource virtual machine  do you recommend for running windows and beeing fast enough to play games?11:38
norttVirtual Box11:42
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bazhanggames? as in 3D games?11:44
nyadya11:45
nyadlike warcraft 311:45
bazhangwine11:45
bazhangcheck the appdb11:45
bazhang!appdb11:45
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help11:45
norttHow to mount ntfs?11:49
tarfarthi im compiling a program and it needs gtk 2.0  but already installed libglib2.0-dev11:49
useroneis there any howto on adjusting fonts in kde?11:50
tarfartapt-get install libglib2.0-dev libglib2.0-data  libglib2.0-011:50
tarfartwhy is my make saying i need gtk 2.011:50
bazhang!ntfs-3g11:51
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:51
tarfartwhat do i have to type to get gtk 2.0  ?11:51
norttthx i change fstab all work))11:53
useronemainly if I disable anti aliasing it seems kde 3 based progs like konversation seems to ignore the settings11:54
useroneis there any other place to change that anti aliasing?11:55
dr_willishmm.. libglib is not  gtk2 its 'glib'12:05
bazhangyep he is crossposting about it now12:05
bazhangseems there is a factoid about that12:05
Havoc][hello together.. does anyone knows how i can update kubuntu intrepid to KDE 4.2.1? I get the following http://pastebin.com/m42e58cca dependencie errors.12:20
tarfartubuntu is an asshole for ommiting hydra from the repos12:20
bazhangtarfart, stop cursing please12:21
tarfartwell it's true12:23
tarfartnow im in dependancy hell12:23
farhad_hfhi12:24
bazhanghi12:24
dr_willisHavoc][:  update, the package listings, then try the upgrade again perhaps. when i upgraded a few weeks back i had to manually remove some conflicting package then rerun the upgrade.   but i thought that had been fixed by now12:27
farhad_hfi'm having problems with installing nvidia driver, i installed it from repository and after restarting my computer kdm didn't start, then i downloaded driver from the site of nvidia and installed linux-source and linux-headers . but nvidia-installer has errors : http://pastebin.com/f75cf158d , what's wrong here?12:30
Havoc][dr_willis: *hm* it seems that there are some dep. bugs - i have upgraded the package list already a many times. someone at #kubuntu-de told me, that i should update strigi first..12:30
dr_willisHavoc][:  could remove what ever is conflicting i guess and  reinstall it later if it dosent get added back in autopmatically12:33
dr_willisive not messed with kde 4.2 in some time. so  thats about all i rember on the issues i had12:33
* farhad_hf kubuntu 8.10 , gforce fx5500 , driver : nvidia-glx-17312:37
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Havoc][dr_willis: seems to be broken *grml*12:40
Havoc][The following packages are BROKEN: kdebase-runtime kdelibs512:40
dr_willisnot sure what to do about those Havoc][ . could try removing them.   but that may break the working system.. you Might want to install a backup window manager just in case. :) like icewm12:41
Havoc][lol :-)12:41
Havoc][dr_willis: it *is* broken :-). I have removed everything, but i cant install them now.12:42
dr_willisHavoc][:   Bummer. You broke it.12:42
dr_willisapt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and pray, and try again? :)12:43
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bazhangkdelibs5 means it is fully unusable; that is the puregnome component12:43
Havoc][just, tried :-). Nothing *g*12:43
Havoc][i know.12:43
Havoc][Is there any bugreport about that?12:43
bazhangso do a pure gnome then reinstall kubuntu-desktop12:43
bazhangalbeit have a backup wm12:44
bazhanglxde is a nice choice :)12:44
dr_willisjwm + rox filer :P12:44
chris-rc1hello12:51
bazhanghi12:51
chris-rc1top shows me significantly higher values for pcu usgage than does 'system activity'. is there a reason for this?12:53
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_strogi tried to  make a distribution upgrade from the latest alternate cd but it didnt work when i entered: apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom13:01
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mick__bonjour quelqu'un pourrai m'aider ?13:42
HackSamhi there...how can i know which ubuntu version i am on?13:42
hinkaHi13:43
hinkaQUien esta conectado13:43
hinkaque hable español13:43
BluesKajHowdy13:50
bazhanghi13:50
delicowahey13:55
edgyHi, I cannot connect my broadcom to a WPA access point and don't know how to troubleshoot it.  I can connect to open netowork only14:00
bentob0xhow can I install 2.6.27-12 on 8.10?  Is there some repositories or something I need to add?14:02
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mathhi, need help instaling a web cam14:27
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam14:28
mathis a microsoft ( =P )  sweb cam14:28
bazhanghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras14:28
mathoks, try it14:28
maththanks14:29
mathsorry14:37
mathis not working14:37
bazhangwhat did you install to test14:37
mathi install the easy cam14:37
maththen ls /dev/video*14:37
bazhangwhat application eg cheese14:37
mathEasycam  and camorama14:38
bazhang!info cheese14:38
ubottucheese (source: cheese): A tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.24.2-0ubuntu0+intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 2339 kB, installed size 7152 kB14:38
maththen try with skype and amsn14:38
mathwhen excecute ls /dev/video*14:39
mathnot found any14:39
bazhangis it a supported cam (from that list)?14:39
mathis a m$ lifecam vx-100014:39
mathy google that , but i cant install14:40
mathi dont now14:40
mathhow can see if is a supported cam ?14:40
mathin Ubuntu 7.10 i make it work14:41
mathbut here (kubuntu 8.10 ) no14:41
bazhanghttp://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+microsoft-lifecam-vx-1000?id=661014:41
bazhanglooks like you need to get gspca for that and even then it is not very good for intrepid14:42
mathin ubuntu , see ugly, but can see14:43
mathhere, nothing, cant install14:43
mathim lost ?14:44
bazhangbarely supported it seems14:44
bazhangie more trouble than it is worth to get going14:44
mathok14:44
bazhangyou can certainly try though :)14:45
kopertonproblem here http://imagebin.ca/view/lim7h12U.html14:45
bazhangjust have to weigh the cost/benefit ratio14:45
kopertonmagnifier sucks http://imagebin.ca/view/lim7h12U.html14:46
mathyes, understand , im not have much knowledge in linux , cost/benifit is bad here14:48
kopertonmath: ?14:49
bazhangmath, for anyone, not just you. Not about linux knowledge but poor support from the manufacturer (MS, no surprise there)14:50
mathyes is true14:51
bazhangmath, many cams do work well. sorry yours is not one of them14:51
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mathi love linux, and the open source14:51
mathim java developer14:51
mathnw in linux14:51
math(and in english )14:52
rmrfslash_I'm a bit confused. I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670... should I install the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd14:55
koperton!ati14:56
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:56
rmrfslash_The binary driver doesn't work14:57
rmrfslash_I mean, it works but resume from hibernation is broken14:57
kopertonati sucks as always14:57
rmrfslash_Not really.14:57
neo_hi14:58
rmrfslash_At least they have an open source driver.14:58
rmrfslash_that AMD supports14:58
rmrfslash_So anyways, can someone answer my original question?14:59
math_sorry, restart pc14:59
math_i come back in 20 min14:59
kopertoni still prefer intel14:59
kopertonati sucks and now some nvidia too15:00
rmrfslash_To each their own, but I think the ATI hatred is turning somewhat legacy15:00
kopertonin the most of cases you have only to get restriced driver15:00
kopertonto get something works15:00
kopertonif there is ati15:01
kopertonor at least it was in this way15:01
rmrfslash_Well, either way, it's 2009 and there's an open source ATI driver and shitty docs for configuring it or which one you need for which card.15:03
tq|Memphisanyone can suggest me a good mp3 player please, i'm new on UNiX15:03
rmrfslash_This is what apt says: xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver15:03
rmrfslash_songbird15:03
rmrfslash_Mozilla frickin' Songbird15:03
rmrfslash_unless you want something hardware.... then I like iPod15:04
rmrfslash_Like, what is r5xx r6xx?15:05
killermachI've been battling this for quite some time and I found the source of the issue..... even tho synaptic shows cups-pdf to be installed, there is no /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf file15:05
killermachI have marked it for reinstallation.. this still did not fix it15:05
rmrfslash_sudo updatedb &&  locate cups-pdf.conf15:06
rmrfslash_maybe it's somewhere else?15:06
killermachrmrfslash_: I get that file location from the properties tab-> installed files15:07
rmrfslash_oh15:07
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killermachok.. marked it for complete removal, then reinstall and I have the config file..15:08
rmrfslash_gotta reboot...15:08
tq|Memphissynaptic package manager says that : amarok is a good media player "FOR KDE" but i'm using gnome GUI is it a problem?15:08
killermachthat wasted a large amount of time.. I expected synaptic to accurately provide information15:08
rmrfslash_yeah, you just need to install Qt15:08
rmrfslash_which will be a dependency for Amarok15:09
rmrfslash_You should try Songbird though15:09
killermachit's been broke for months15:09
rmrfslash_its GTK15:09
rmrfslash_it's not in synaptic though15:09
tq|Memphisah yes15:09
rmrfslash_but it can be downloaded and run (no compile)15:10
rmrfslash_it looks a lot like itunes and has a firefox-like plugin architecture15:10
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rmrfslash_Amarok is going to have a tough time competing w/ this I think15:11
rmrfslash_k time to reboot15:11
bazhangbanshee would be superior choice to songbird15:12
bazhangit is in the repos, it works, and is not broken15:12
jinghewhat's this ?15:17
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mirko_hello. I'm working with kubuntu 8.10 and I failed in every intent to install a flash plugin who serves with firefox. somebody can help mi?15:44
bazhangmirko_, flashplugin-nonfree from the repos?15:45
mirko_doesn't work15:45
ZengolGood morning guy's/gal's.15:56
ZengolI have a question.15:56
ZengolHow would i go about formatting a harddrive in 8.10 without installing any extra software?15:56
ZengolI am currently booted off of the cd without installation, i wanna format this harddrive to be a completely clean format for a new installation at a later use.15:57
tq|Memphiscan someone tell me a good torrent program please16:08
tq|Memphisthis transmission is not working good16:08
blkdghi, is anyone using an NVIDIA GeForce 8200M or a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M ?16:09
blkdgi was wondering how they performed in kubuntu.16:10
ZengolTry Ktorrent.16:10
blkdganyone?16:19
bazhang!torrent16:20
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P16:20
rafpix:-S16:21
Zengol!format16:25
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QtParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap16:25
useroneanyone knows how to set font anti aliasing settings for kde3 and gtk apps?16:25
ZengolNeeded 8.10....16:25
ZengolOh well...16:26
useroneyou should be able to format during installation16:26
dkkongMy X11 is screwy this morning. It's got a 0hz refresh rate and I can't select higher. I just have a generic onboard Intel graphics system. What can I do?16:27
blkdgthanks anyhoe16:37
BluesKajhmm, amarok 2's latest offering still doesn't do much for me ... I'd settle for Kradio with the internet stream option except it needs cmake to install, but cmake doesn't work on my setup16:39
BluesKajcmake chat tells me it's kde4 's fault and on it goes the blame game merry-go-round16:40
BluesKajanyway BBL16:40
philenagood afternoon16:41
CoJaBo-AztecAnyone use Jaunty yet? How stable is it?16:42
jussi01CoJaBo-Aztec: join #ubuntu+1 for jaunty stuff16:43
philenaI'm trying to turn a ViewSonic TV into a PC monitor.  When I try to plug in the VGA from the computer to the TV, my TV shuts down.  I thought I needed to change the resolution in Kubuntu, but when I got to the display settings, it kicks out and reboots the system16:43
CoJaBo-Aztecjussi01: Thanks.16:44
CoJaBo-Aztecjoin #ubuntu+116:44
philenahello?16:46
* kuaera pops.16:46
philenayes, it pops blank.. next thing I know, I'm entering my login at the flash page16:47
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kuaeraphilena: I'm not certain what to tell you. Unless you're skilled at tinkering with xorg.conf, you may have to wait a while until someone happens along who's more informed.16:48
zejtarhi. How can i add kde 4.2.1 to kubuntu 8.10 liveCD ?17:00
tarfartfreepository.com  why wont it let me log in?17:00
tarfartkonqueror and firfox dont work on that site17:00
tarfartnm i got it17:02
mirko_hi everybody. I'm trying to install a flash plugin for kubunt 8.10/firefox 3 but no one works. neither does flushplugin-nonfree. what can I do?17:03
NakedNousHi17:04
philenaare you installing plugins through firefox or through the the despository?17:15
philenaI don't understand why firefox plugins are in there.  firefox installs plugins just fine by itself17:16
tarfartgod damn linux garbage sucks.  it cant even do stuff with freepository.com17:16
tarfartjunk shit17:17
blaneHey all, I want to install KDE 4.2.1 (I have 4.2.0.0) but adept can't find any updates for kde/qt even with pre-released updates on. What do I have to do to get 4.2.1?17:29
blaneanybody?17:31
blanenevermind, google is your friend.17:33
alexander_reconstructorsoftware is dead?17:34
Math1shello17:41
Math1sI've tried Ubuntu 8.10 and got a network connection with it17:43
Math1snow trying Kubuntu 8.10 but cannot get a network connection17:44
Math1sstrange17:44
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paolociao17:46
paolo!list17:47
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots17:47
DoemanHey guys i reinstalled windows and now my grub is gone. With my old pc i simply used the SUPER Grub disk and fixed it with that. Now, however for some reason i dont get the super grub disk menu and i go directly to some command line version. I dont know what to do, any ideas? Thanks17:51
BluesKaj!Grub | Doeman17:53
ubottuDoeman: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto17:53
Doemanbluekaj, ive read that but never got it to work, only thing that helped was the super grub disk..17:54
stealth-anyone know how to change my mirror from kubuntu?17:54
ushurmaas18:01
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draikHello everyone.18:07
alexander_anyone russian here?18:11
ibrarIs there any way to aggregate bandwidth of two ethernet18:12
DarthFrogDoes anyone know of a good email client with which I can forward a HTML email and strip out the sender's ID & email address.  i.e. just forward the HMTL body, not the headers?18:37
DarthFrogThat KMail can't do it is it's major drawback.18:37
DarthFrogs/its/it's/18:37
roz2I just set up Jaunty, and it appears that OpenGL is not working in hardware.  I have a ATI Radeon 365018:38
roz2GLXGears only gives me like 300 FPS18:38
roz2mythtv falls back to software18:39
noren!jaunty | roz218:39
ubotturoz2: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.18:39
roz2oops I meant intrepid18:39
roz2first time ubuntu user, long time linux user18:40
noren!ati | roz218:40
ubotturoz2: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:40
roz2Wow... thats pretty darn cool.18:42
roz2OK. It says I need to restart the computer to complete this installation of the drivers.  I know thats not true, and I can't restart, as I am running liveCD.  Do I just need to exit X, and run a modprobe fglrx at the command prompt?18:44
rmrfslash_Let me just say the radeonhd driver is really coming along :)18:46
norenroz2: i thouht u were on permanent install18:46
rmrfslash_well... the open source ati drivers in general18:46
limettehi ^^18:46
roz2nope, just test driving right now.  Pretty attached to gentoo... and making sure that everything I do is good with KUbuntu18:47
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noren!hi | Limette18:47
ubottuLimette: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:47
roz2noren: can I modprobe the driver?18:47
norenroz2: u can try but i m not sure if its good on live cd18:48
roz2noren: how do you shutdown X?18:49
roz2noren: in gentoo, I would /etc/init.d/kdm stop18:49
norenctrl alt backspace18:49
norensame u can do here also18:49
roz2noren: thanks18:50
roz__noren: OMG its beautiful now,  transparency yummm18:53
norengood18:54
DarthFrogroz__: Try this command "glxgears".  If you do it from an xterm, youi'll get a FPS report.18:56
limettesomehow i closed my taskbar, how can i start it again ? ^^18:58
norenlimette: what do u mean18:59
triuneif jaunty ships with 2.6.2818:59
triunewill there be an upgrade to 2.6.29 later?18:59
limettewell i dont know how its called in english, the thing very bottom of your screen where you can see what windows are open18:59
triuneor will we have to wait for the 9.10 ?18:59
norenlimette: just right click and add a panel then u can add the desired widget there19:00
noren!jaunty | triune19:01
ubottutriune: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.19:01
useronehi19:03
noren!hi | userone19:04
ubottuuserone: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:04
limettenoren: Thank you very much, i got it back now ^^19:05
norenlimette: ur welcome19:06
triunethanks, but i was just asking a question about releases in general19:11
triuneif out-of-cycle updates happen to the kernel package19:11
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CoXmiKhello19:12
starenkahi, can find a kde 4.2.1 repo for hardy, any clues?19:15
rmrfslash_How can I enable Capture & Caputre 2 (my microphones) permanently. It seems that everytime I reboot, these devices a re deselected/19:16
rmrfslash_I'm enabling these in hda intel mixer19:16
alexander_where i can find kDE splasah images?19:18
mick__maybe on http://www.kde-look.org/19:20
alexander_no i ned a pth where it save?19:22
mefisto__rmrfslash_: are you talking about a kmix setting?19:23
rmrfslash_mmmmmmm i think so19:23
rmrfslash_whatever you open when you click on the volume icon in the taskbar and hit "Mixer"19:23
rmrfslash_sorry, click on the volume icon in the system tray19:24
mefisto__try this: set things up the way you want them, then settings menu, configure kmix, and click OK or Apply. that seems to save the settings for me19:25
rmrfslash_k19:26
rmrfslash_I have to reboot to check if this worked... but ill take your work for it19:26
rmrfslash_;)19:26
rmrfslash_I'm making a document that will explain how to get an entire XPS 16 working19:26
rmrfslash_though DRI support in any of the radeon drivers will break resume from suspend-to-ram/disk... this is the only major problem I've encountered19:27
mick__alexender: i can't help you sorry19:27
mefisto__rmrfslash_: if you want to see if it worked, quit kmix, then restart it again from the menu19:28
rmrfslash_Other than this..... I've got a nice working machine. Though my wife (who uses a mac) doesn't know how or why I deal w/ this ;)19:28
rmrfslash_Kubuntu has WAY BETTER POWER MANAGEMENT THAN GNOME!19:28
rmrfslash_btw.19:28
BluesKajheh, I'm not too happy with the screensaver link to power management on kde4. There's no rhyme or reason to it's implementation..very erratic IMO19:30
rmrfslash_4.1?19:41
mick__Alexender: Ubuntu stores the splash screen file image at directory /usr/share/pixmaps/splash. ( i found it on a website)19:42
ab#ubuntu19:44
mick__i think it's the same directory for kubuntu19:46
ActionParsnipyo yo yo19:46
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mick__No codecs aviable on amarok ( for listen webradio), someone can help me?19:54
ActionParsnip!codec19:54
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:54
kbmaniacHi all, just moved from KDE3 to KDE4 ... wow ... OK having a problem getting my head around the plasma dashboard. Is there an idiots guide around ?19:59
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ActionParsnipkbmaniac: ask about it here and the room will reply if it can20:01
alexander_Can i download and install drivers ati and nvidia both?20:01
mijagiplease join to #krezji20:01
kbmaniaccool ... OK in plasma dashboard is there a way to resise all the 'plasmoids' without scalling them individually ?20:02
kbmaniacI get uneven results ... lol20:02
ActionParsniperm, not to my knowledge20:02
kbmaniacOK no worries, its still early days20:03
ActionParsnipcould do it over time with micro tweaking, lock them afterwards though so they stay put20:03
kbmaniacYep I found the lock key - sooo how do you say add a new folder to the desktop ? new has gone ...20:04
HappySmileManWhere can I get info on a package, like if I want to know what a dependency actually does20:06
ActionParsnipHappySmileMan: apt-cache search <name>20:09
theresaI have USB speakers and they do not have audio playing through them.20:24
theresaWhat am I missing to make them work? I can hear the test audio, but not music through amarok.20:24
mefisto__theresa: do you have the codecs installed for the filetypes you're playing in amarok?20:25
theresamefisto__: I should. How can I check?20:25
stealth-how can I make the screen brgither in kde4?20:26
theresa!codec20:27
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:27
theresamefisto__: The audio is playing in amarok, I just can't hear it20:27
casinowarrendoes anyone know how to change the appearance of the kde 4.2 interface20:29
mefisto__casinowarren: systemsettings > appearance20:32
casinowarreni'm looking to skin the interface to look like something else...I liked the way imagicos looks, and want to see what other skins are available20:32
theresa!audio20:34
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:34
mefisto__theresa: can you play those files with any other players?20:34
casinowarrenmefisto__: that didn't really do what I wanted it to20:34
mefisto__casinowarren: right-click desktop, appearance settings, and click "new theme" button20:35
theresamefisto__: No. I just tried amarok and minirok20:36
casinowarrenmefisto__: that's not changing much20:38
roz__I am trying to install Kubuntu and appear to be having CD / CD ROM issues.... I would prefer to install it over the internet anyway.  Is there a minimal CD to do so?20:39
Darkrift2ok, i seem to have a problem with my syste. Every time i watch a dvd, kaffeine tells me i need to "sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh" which i do. this basically uses apt to install some packages, but why would i have to install the same package more than once? why would it let me without saying package is up to date ?20:40
mefisto__casinowarren: once you've installed new themes, select them from the dropdown menu20:40
casinowarrenit only changed the level of darkness on my task bar20:41
voicuHi, does anyone have any idea why the power applet hangs for almost a minute when switching profiles? It seems to do that when it has to enable/disable compositing20:41
voicubut enabling/disabling compositing goes a lot faster from the system settings thingy20:42
roz__is there a Minimal KUbuntu CD at all?20:43
mefisto__roz__: yes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:43
hixcasinowarren: search repos for 'dekorator', maybe this is what you looking for20:44
SandGorgonroz__: I did a minimal kde install from ubuntu-minimal (kdelibs, kdebase, kdebase-bin, kdebase-plasma, kwin,  kdebase-workspace, kde-workspace-data, kdebase-workspace-bin, kdm, g++)20:44
casinowarrenok20:45
roz__mefisto__: how can I tell it to install KUbuntu from the Ubuntu CD?\20:46
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yaa__how can i make myself a sudouser20:47
ThibitLocation of kubuntu's bug reporting system?20:47
mefisto__roz__: once you have a cli environment installed, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop20:47
roz__mefisto__: i come from many years of Gentoo--- thats nothing20:49
roz__mefisto__: but you understand my preference for internet based installation20:49
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ThibitNevermind... <.<;;20:52
yaa__chukch20:52
yaa__whats up man eaters20:53
yaa__ell me how can i make myself a sudo user20:53
nyadhi. my ubuntu 8.10 rejects everything that tries to connect to it. I want to turn this off. I have disabled ufw. yet my pc still refuses to let apps connect to my machine20:54
nyadhow do I stop it from rejecting everything20:54
hixyaa__: define 'become a sudo user'.. wanna work as root?20:56
nyadadd yourself to sudoers file or the wheel group20:57
yaa__no. i want to make a user sudo user20:57
yaa__what i have to write in sudoers20:57
theresamefisto__: I rebooted and I can hear the startup tone, but not my audio through any other means.20:58
mefisto__theresa: what means do you have? (other than amarok)20:59
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theresamefisto__: minirok, firefox (youtube) so far21:00
nyadhttp://pastebin.com/d1bb8fb3221:01
yaa__which way  can i make myself wheel group member21:01
hixUser Manager21:01
nyadrun kuser21:02
yaa__hix^ - by ssh21:02
mefisto__theresa: you may want to install another player to see if you can play your files. it may be missing codecs, or may be a config problem with just amarok21:02
theresamefisto__: Just tried kaffeine. That works.21:03
mefisto__theresa: and it's playing the same files that don't play in amarok?21:03
theresamefisto__: What codec would I be missing with amarok? What setting should I check? This also happens with firefox.21:03
theresamefisto__: Correct.21:03
hixsudo adduser USER GROUP21:04
mefisto__theresa: it seems you have the codecs to play the files. is amarok's volume turned up?21:04
mefisto__theresa: what version amarok do you have?21:05
theresamefisto__: volume is at 100%. It is version Installed: 2:1.4.10-0ubuntu3.121:06
mefisto__theresa: look in amarok's settings > configure amarok > engine. is "output plugin" set to "alsa"?21:10
theresamefisto__: autodetect21:10
hixyaa__: add yourself to 'admin' group21:11
yaa__hix -- which way&21:11
hixyaa__: sudo adduser USERNAME admin21:11
theresamefisto__: I set it to alsa and still no audio while track is playing21:12
mefisto__theresa: try closing and restarting amarok (right-click the systray icon to shut down amarok)21:12
yaa__hix -it does not work21:13
hixyaa__: you cant add yourself of course. must be done by an already privileged user21:13
theresamefisto__: Nope. Still no audio while track plays21:13
hixyaa__: sudo visudo     ..and add USERNAME ALL=(ALL) ALL21:14
yaa__sudo nano /etc/sudoers wil be correct&21:15
hixwill work, but should be done using visudo21:16
yaa__i m afraid of vi))21:16
hix;)21:16
hixput this line in.. hit ESC ... then SHIFT+:     ...then wq  and  ENTER21:17
mefisto__theresa: maybe amarok is sending the audio to another soundcard?    asoundconf list   will list your audio hardware devices.    asoundconf set-default-card <name-of-soundcard-from-list>  to set the default21:17
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theresamefisto__: I restarted amarok and got 'xine was unable to initialize any drivers'21:20
theresamefisto__: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.21:20
mefisto__theresa: you got that message after changing what?21:20
theresamefisto__: sound card21:21
hix yaa__: but i think this command uses nano anyway21:21
yaa__hix thanx it works )21:21
hixyaa__: great ;)21:21
yaa__we did it)21:21
theresamefisto__: I have 2 items listed; 'ICH6' and 'default'21:22
mefisto__theresa: listed where? asoundconf lists those?21:23
theresamefisto__: Yes21:24
mefisto__theresa: which one set as default give you the xine error?21:26
theresamefisto__: Don't recall. Let me check21:28
theresamefisto__: default21:28
theresamefisto__: I set it back to the ICH6 and amarok plays the track, but I'm not getting audio as that's not the USB speakers21:31
baptiste_bonsoir21:33
theresamefisto__: I'm going to reboot. BRB.21:34
baptiste_vous parlez francais icic ?21:34
baptiste_vous parlez francais ici ?21:34
mefisto__!fr | baptiste_21:34
ubottubaptiste_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr21:34
jamesjedimaster!fr | baptiste_21:34
baptiste_thank's21:34
LaNdica u bo21:35
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yaa__how can i make userX paths equal to root's21:42
theresamefisto__: Rebooted and nothing.21:42
astrobearhttp://dpaste.com/17400/ :: oh boy21:45
astrobearplease help if you can21:45
astrobeari did chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers but it still gives me that msg21:45
theresaastrobear: chmod it back and use 'sudo /etc/sudoers'21:46
astrobearchmod it back to 0777?21:46
theresaNever chmod a file that important to 777.21:47
astrobearit was only temporary21:47
theresaOK21:47
theresaWhat are you trying to do?21:47
astrobearjust enough to edit it's contents21:47
astrobearuse the NOPASSWD for /usr/bin21:48
theresa'sudo nano /etc/sudoers' doesn't work?21:48
astrobeartheresa: http://dpaste.com/17403/21:48
astrobearheath@kb1:~$ sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers21:49
astrobearsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044021:49
theresaastrobear: 'sudo chmod 440 /etc/sudoers'21:50
Ar3Ch3rHey, i am new to ubuntu. I need some help installing a .tar.bz2 file can someone pm me or help me?21:50
astrobearheath@kb1:~$ sudo chmod 440 /etc/sudoers21:50
astrobearsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044021:50
astrobearAr3Ch3r: what's the problem?21:50
Ar3Ch3rI have never installed a program before on linux, and i downloaded xchat21:50
Ar3Ch3rTo use irc on my fresh install of ubuntu21:51
astrobearfrom the command line, tar -xvjf file.tar.bz221:51
mefisto__astrobear: can you log in with recovery mode from grub to do the chmod ?21:51
astrobearbut you should just do "sudo apt-get install xchat"21:51
Ar3Ch3rIf you tell me how to get to the command line im sure i could follow you21:51
Ar3Ch3ri forgot what it was called21:51
astrobearubuntu or kubuntu?21:51
Ar3Ch3rubuntu21:51
theresamefisto__: What would make amarok and minirok play through the wrong card while kaffeine doens't have that issue?21:52
astrobearhold down alt and press the f2 button to bring a command prompt, type 'xterm' and then type "sudo apt-get install xchat" and then just type 'xchat' to launch the program21:53
astrobearAr3Ch3r: and if you need more help with ubuntu, ask #ubuntu21:53
astrobear:)21:53
Ar3Ch3rok thanks. im trying that now! :)21:53
mefisto__theresa: I don't know. you could try asking in #amarok, but be sure to let them know you're not using amarok 221:53
astrobearAr3Ch3r:  and xchat should be in the internet menu21:54
astrobear..after installing21:54
astrobearmefisto__: i would have to boot into live cd21:54
Ar3Ch3rok thanks!21:54
astrobearmefisto__: guess i will do that when kde gets through compiling21:55
Ar3Ch3rsorry one more question, astrobear, that command you gave me, is it downloading a new file? its working but just curious. or is it using the one i already downlaoded21:56
yaa__good night everybody21:57
astrobearit's downloading a new file and doing the installing for you. you can delete your previous file and if you want to remove xchat, you can do "sudo apt-get remove xchat" from the command line. also there's a terminal icon in your 'accessories' menu if you want to get to a terminal without having to use my memorized shortcuts21:58
astrobearAr3Ch3r ^21:58
astrobeargn yaa__21:58
Ar3Ch3rwow , i like linux :)21:58
astrobear:)21:58
astrobearapt is ver nice21:58
astrobearvery*21:58
Ar3Ch3ris there a list anywhere that gives me a list of other progs that you can type those type of commands to install... like aim or something21:59
astrobearyou keep interrupting my tux math game! ;)22:00
Ar3Ch3rsorry :(22:00
DragnslcrAr3Ch3r- Adept22:00
astrobeartype 'apt-cache search <subject>22:00
theresamefisto__: I'm on KDE 3.5. I thought I was on 4.2. Odd22:00
astrobearDragnslcr: he/she's on ubuntu22:00
Ar3Ch3rthanks22:00
astrobearso.. Ar3Ch3r, you can use synaptic instead22:00
astrobearsynaptic or whatever visual program manager ubuntu has22:01
astrobearsrsly though, ask in #ubuntu, they are helpful :)22:01
astrobearthis is the kubuntu channel22:01
Ar3Ch3rkk thanks, ohh i didnt know there was a differ22:01
astrobearif you get a chance, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", you won't regret it22:01
Ar3Ch3r<--- = Noob22:01
Ar3Ch3rwill do now22:02
astrobearthat will install kubuntu22:02
hix.oO( ;) )22:02
Ar3Ch3rwhat is kubuntu?22:02
hixbetter GUI22:02
astrobearit's the same as ubuntu with KDE as the desktop environment22:02
astrobearyes, it looks prettier22:02
Ar3Ch3rohhhh i saw a demo for that i think22:03
astrobearand a lot more thought (imho) has went into making it the better choice for DEs22:03
theresaAr3Ch3r: Are you a windows or mac user?22:03
Ar3Ch3rwindows22:03
theresaThen go with KDE (Kubuntu)22:03
hix.oO( sh'd i paste that to #ubuntu? )22:03
astrobearyup, kde will be better suited for you then22:03
Ar3Ch3rok i will22:04
Ar3Ch3rsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop22:04
astrobearthen you can ask in here all you want for help :)22:04
Ar3Ch3rsweetness!22:05
astrobearyup, this place is sweet. there many people here a lot more knowledgeable than myself22:06
mefisto__theresa: if you're seeing kde 3.5 in the amarok or kaffeine help menus, that's because they are kde3 apps. konqueror or dolphin (both kde4 apps) help menus will probably say kde 4.222:06
theresamefisto__: No, they say 3.5.10 for KDE. I thought I went to 4.2 a week ago or so22:07
Ar3Ch3rok cool, astrobear i got xchat working22:07
astrobearcool :)22:08
astrobearit's what i used my first time on linux too22:08
astrobearthen i switched to irssi22:08
Ar3Ch3rwell i hope i stick with it, a little confusing here at first but i notice its a lot faster.22:08
Ar3Ch3rim just using a crapbox to test this22:09
Ar3Ch3r1 ghz22:09
Ar3Ch3rlol22:09
mefisto__theresa: do you have kubuntu hardy?22:09
astrobearand mainly now, unless X.org crashes, I use konversation22:09
astrobearAr3Ch3r: that's what i use as well, how much memory do you have?22:09
theresamefisto__: no, I'm on Ibex22:09
mefisto__theresa: then you should have kde422:09
theresaMaybe that's the cause of this issue. How do I get kde4 installed?22:10
astrobearbecause i can't recommend kde 4 to you if you don't have atleast 1gb with that 1ghz processor22:10
hixkded4 --version22:10
astrobearkde 4 uses a lot of memory22:10
astrobearfor good reasons though22:10
Ar3Ch3ri have about 512 mb of ram22:11
Ar3Ch3rdang22:11
jirikHi, I have problem with my Gmail account. I have about 1800 emails in Inbox, but in KDE 4.2 in Kubuntu 8.10 Kmail is not able to download ALL e-mail. It downloads only about first 350 (the oldest). Are there any know problem?22:11
theresaWhat is that command again for displaying your system stats in Konversation?22:11
hixkded --version tells you version for old apps ,)22:11
theresasysinfo, got it22:11
Ar3Ch3risnt that the version with the cool 3d boxes and stuff? yeah i only have 512 mb.22:11
theresamefisto__: /sysinfo says I'm on 4.222:12
Ar3Ch3ri may do an upgrade on this since memory for this pc is so cheap now22:12
astrobearAr3Ch3r: well, try kde out, see how amazing it can be and then use it when you get enough ram :)22:12
astrobearit' well worth it22:12
theresaI'm going to reboot and hope for the best.22:13
astrobearanyone know if kubuntu still has kde 3.5 available for download?22:13
Ar3Ch3rok astrobear, got this. configuring kdm " a display manager is a program that ........"22:13
Ar3Ch3r"package configuration" in top left22:13
astrobearAr3Ch3r:  well, since you are going to be using gnome it seems, choose gdm22:13
Ar3Ch3rastrobear, theres no options, it is just in that server window a long message22:15
Ar3Ch3rthen at the bottom it says <ok>22:15
Ar3Ch3rdoes this mean im all done?22:15
Ar3Ch3rnvm22:15
astrobear:)22:15
Ar3Ch3rhit enter. sry ahah22:15
Ar3Ch3ris there something i can click to see how much ram i have on pc?22:16
hixastrobear: theres a ppa repo for kde322:16
hixastrobear: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kb9vqf/ubuntu intrepid main     .. then install kubuntu-desktop-kde322:17
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wirianna#allseron22:19
astrobearAr3Ch3r: 'cat /proc/meminfo' from the command line22:20
astrobeari don't know how gnome does it22:20
theresamefisto__: About KDE tells me I'm on 3.5.10. It's odd, but I know I'm on 4.2 and I guess that's all which matters.22:21
mefisto__theresa: about kde from which app?22:21
theresaKonversation, Amarok22:21
astrobearokay, this time nobody interrupt me from my tux math game! ;)22:21
mefisto__theresa: they are kde 3 apps using kde 3 libraries. try looking in konqueror or dolphin about kde22:22
hixtheresa: konversation runs on 3.5 , even in 4.222:22
theresaOK. Dolphin says 4.2.0022:23
hixtheresa: type   kded --version     ...  and   kded4 --version    ...both there22:23
theresa4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)22:24
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Ar3Ch3r<astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: 'cat /proc/meminfo' from the command line < --- "no such file or directory"22:26
astrobeartype "free"22:26
astrobearyou shouldn't get that while using ubuntu though22:27
astrobearwas it typed correctly?22:27
Ar3Ch3r384368, wow, totally need to put my mem in right. i meesssed it up22:27
Ar3Ch3ryeah i got that i typed it correctly though22:27
astrobearhmm22:28
vincent__hop !! hello !22:29
astrobearAr3Ch3r: since you are using such a terribly old computer like i am, i can recommend a few games for you, type this to get them: sudo apt-get install openarena teeworlds wesnoth frozen-bubble22:30
astrobearAr3Ch3r: also... sudo apt-get install inkscape gimp blender22:30
astrobear^ for graphic design and animation22:30
astrobearthe amarok music player is great22:31
Ar3Ch3ridk if my comp will support that ... not much memory22:31
astrobearand if you just want to browse from the cli, type "apt-cache search games" or essentially anything you think you might like22:31
Ar3Ch3rgimp blender lol22:32
astrobearthese games can be played on the most minimum machines22:32
baptiste_bonsoir22:32
astrobearfor open arena though, you will need to take the graphics down a little, but it's still playable and i still prefer it like that when i'm playing22:33
baptiste_je suis perdu, on peut m'aider ?22:33
astrobearbaptiste_: french?22:33
hixastrobear: blender on old machines is no fun to work *g22:33
astrobearhix: this is true, but i'm just showing off a few gui apps22:33
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baptiste_yes franche astrobear22:33
astrobearbaptiste_: then join #ubuntu-fr22:34
baptiste_erf, french22:34
baptiste_thank's22:34
astrobearyour welcome, good luck22:34
Ar3Ch3rastrobear, what would catigory or "section" would i look under for stuff like xfire and aim in synaptic package manager22:37
astrobearAr3Ch3r: for ubuntu, use pidgin22:37
astrobearkde users like kopete22:37
astrobearAr3Ch3r: some more apps to look @: AUDIO) audacity, rosegarden, ardour, hydrogen, VIDEO) mplayer or vlc22:38
Ar3Ch3rkk22:38
astrobearapt-cache search <program> to get a description of what the program do, e.g.: apt-cache search audacity22:39
mefisto__apt-cache show <program> will give you details on the package22:40
astrobearalso for games, Ar3Ch3r, sudo apt-get install smc22:41
astrobearsuper maryo worlds22:41
astrobearchronicles*22:42
Ar3Ch3rastrobear thaere is a search box im using instead of typing it in the command promt, in synaptic22:42
astrobeari keep thinking of games because it's about all i can do right now until the kde dev packages are through compiling :P22:42
astrobearah, glad you found it.22:43
Ar3Ch3rlol22:43
Ar3Ch3rhmmm i cant find smc in the search box22:44
Ar3Ch3r:(22:44
astrobearwhen is kubuntu switching to koffice?22:44
astrobearsearch for super maryo22:44
astrobearkoffice2*22:44
beatzzwow22:44
beatzzhow awsome is this22:44
astrobear?22:45
beatzzUbunutu irc? and even a #kubuntu channel by default!?22:45
astrobear:)22:45
beatzzthis rocks22:45
beatzzsup everyone :D22:45
astrobearhehe, chillin like a villian yo22:45
beatzzcan i get authed ;) ??22:45
astrobearare you not registered?22:45
beatzznothin just been workin on CompTIA Linux+ latly22:46
beatzzno first time i used this irc client on this laptop.22:46
astrobear/msg nickserv help register22:46
beatzzthanks :)22:47
Ar3Ch3rok, illl be back u around a lot astrobear?22:48
astrobearAr3Ch3r: always22:48
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Ar3Ch3rkk cya aroudn22:49
beatzzpeace Ar3Ch3r22:50
vtrtHi!22:50
beatzzsup22:50
astrobearthis google voice application is sweet22:50
beatzzhavent tryed it22:50
vtrtI have problem i can't update amarok to version newer than 1.422:50
astrobeari finally have sms messages with their service and that makes me happy22:51
beatzzaircrack-ng > * :P22:51
beatzzcan u post error?22:51
vtrtthere is no error it just doesn't seem to see newer ver22:51
astrobearamarok-kde422:52
astrobeari think that's the package for amarok222:52
astrobearapt-cache search amarok22:52
astrobearsee what there is22:52
vtrtwait i'll try amarok-kde4 because it wasn't written on the howto on kubuntu web22:53
robertssWhich packages will I need to get a winmodem working?22:54
beatzzsudo apt-get install amarok-kde422:54
vtrtit worked but now i can't run it xD22:54
vtrtk works xD22:54
beatzz;)22:54
beatzzrobertss: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/WinModems_and_Linux22:55
vtrtthank you very much xD22:55
vtrtcya22:56
beatzzpeace vtrt22:56
robertssThanks beatzz22:56
beatzzrobertss: np :)22:57
beatzzrobertss: btw that was the first link google gave me when i searched "patches to get winmodem working"22:58
astrobearAr3Ch3r: if you want to play mp3 files, you'll need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras package and kubuntu-restricted-packages if you are on kde, though with only 512mb ram for your 1ghz machine, i'd stick with gnome22:59
astrobearack that wasn't clear23:00
robertssbeatzz: Me too but the link didn't work. I just tried it again and its back up23:00
astrobearubuntu-restricted-packages for ubuntu and kubuntu-restricted-packages for kubuntu23:00
beatzzsoo.23:07
sakurahi, i installed kde-nightly and now in the session i dont have the bar that is at the bottom23:24
sakurahow can i runt that pprocess ?23:24
beatzzyou mean your Panel?23:27
beatzzsakura: you mean your Panel? with your Kmenu and clock?23:28
sakurayes beatzz23:28
beatzzsakura: give me a sec im gettin it for ya23:29
mefisto__plasma23:29
sakurathanks23:30
beatzzsakura: Alt+F123:30
beatzzSystem Settings23:31
beatzzsakura: Alt+F1 > System Settings23:31
sakurabeatzz, i runned plasma and the desktop is back :)23:31
sakurabut i think is the kde4.1, not kde4.223:31
beatzzsakura: plasma as in a terminal? 'plasma'?23:31
sakurayes beatzz23:32
sakurain a terminal23:32
beatzzwhat dose that do?23:32
sakurai dont know23:32
sakurabut the desktop comes23:32
sakuraand the bar23:32
beatzzrefresh the desktop?23:32
sakuramaybe23:32
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beatzzhmm i get nothing when i enter 'plasma' into a terminal23:33
beatzzand nothing from 'sudo apt-get install plasma'23:33
mefisto__beatzz: yours is already running. you can kill it with "killall plasma" then start it again23:34
sakurahow can i remove kde completly f?23:36
beatzzsudo rm -9 /*23:36
beatzzjk23:36
beatzzi dont know that one23:37
sakurabeatzz, i only want to remove kde :)23:37
mefisto__sakura: what version? intrepid?23:37
sakuranot all my hardrive23:37
sakurayes mefisto__23:37
mefisto__sakura: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome23:37
sakurathanks mefisto__23:38
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