[00:00] <nashk> a
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> Nothing significant that I've seen
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> Occassional rendering bugs, but that may be video drivers
[00:00] <GentooJohnny> KDE seems to be self-destructing in front of my eyes though too.
[00:00] <GentooJohnny> sometimes the entire interface just crashes.
[00:01] <PodeCoet> stupid question, but when downloading usng ktorrent - If you add multiple trackers, shouldn't the seeders and leechers of all the trackers get merged?
[00:01] <GentooJohnny> and everytime it does the graphics problems just seem to worsen
[00:02] <GentooJohnny> I really like KDE better than gnome these days but its just these quirkly little things that build up to something quite annoying.
[00:03] <GentooJohnny> so Dragnslcr you suggest I would have better luck just upgrading to KDE 4.2?
[00:05] <GentooJohnny> I don't want to have to kill xorg everytime I want the icons to be redrawn.
[00:12] <Dragnslcr> GentooJohnny- yeah, I highly recommend 4.2
[00:26] <Guest54945> hello
[00:26] <Guest54945> anyone out there? i'm not sure if i'm doing this right
[00:26] <Guest54945> anyone?
[00:27] <Guest54945> IF there is anyone out there i'm trying to figure out how to use the wobbly windows and other effects in kubuntu
[00:28] <Guest54945> i have the simple thing installed and have enabled them but my stuff don't work.
[00:28] <Guest54945> am i just not doing something or being really stupid? i was able to do it ubuntu
[00:32] <ubuntu__> hello!
[00:32] <ubuntu__> I've a very, very big problem with my kubuntu 8.10 desktop.
[00:33] <ubuntu__> today i tried to install arch, and for that i had to modify the partition table. to remove arch, because i didn't get the internet workig, i tried to find the partition manager i used in the arch-installation, and i tried "fsck"... since that, i can't access my main hard drive with my kubuntu desktop. The complete harddrive is only displayed as one big partition without a filesystem set :(
[00:34] <ubuntu__> is there any way to get access to my files thet were on this hard drive or even repair the made damage? :(
[00:34] <ubuntu__> help would be very nice ! :)
[00:50] <Angerfist> moin ! ;D
[00:58] <__mikem> I have a problem. Firefox suddenly will not launch. It causes a bus error upon startup. Deleting the .mozilla dirrectory didn't work. Reinstalling firefox also didn't work.
[00:58] <dr_willis> reinstalling is windows thinking..
[00:58] <dr_willis> run it from a terminal - look for error messages
[00:58] <dr_willis> try a new user also. seeif it crashes for them
[00:59] <__mikem> dr_willis, I did. It just says bus error
[00:59] <__mikem> does root count as another user?
[00:59] <dr_willis> thers some --OPTIONS for firefox also
[00:59] <dr_willis> i wouldent use root. but ya coudl try i guess
[01:13] <xoen> hi all
[01:13] <xoen> how can I upgrade my kubuntu installation to the alpha?
[01:14] <grenn> Is there a fix for page display through firefox, my gmail looks ugly...
[01:14] <xoen> is there something like the ubuntu update-manager -d? thank yoi
[01:14] <xoen> you
[01:16] <grenn> Anybody use firefox in here?
[01:16] <xoen> hi grenn I use it, it rocks
[01:17] <grenn> How did you fix the display, I just install kubuntu and my page display sucks... like when I get into gmail it looks ugly...
[01:18] <xoen> GMail looks good here, but there is some problem with the tabs, and in fullscreen mode sometimes it blinks, it's strange, but I use it anyway
[01:18] <tokeefe> Is there a way to monitor the GPU with the open source ATI driver?
[01:18] <grenn> so you had to do noting after you installed it?
[01:20] <xoen> greenn in the preferences I "installed" the fix for the GTK+ applications, or something similar, but it's strange anyway, at the moment I'm using ubuntu so I can't help you, I'm sorry
[01:22] <grenn> preferences in firefox or kubuntu
[01:23] <xoen> grenn: sorry, preferences in KDE, I don't remember exactly, Appearence I think
[01:25] <grenn> ok
[01:46] <snarkster> i just complied the compat networking stuff for ath5k but how do i set it to autoload the module?
[01:46] <snarkster> i did really good tho up to that point
[02:03] <snarkster> anyone talking in here or just walking through?
[02:48] <thechemicalcrew> hi
[02:49] <thechemicalcrew> am  bueno quisiera padir  un poco de ayuda
[02:49] <thechemicalcrew> si se puede verdad o solo   es algo para que este el el ubuntu  y ya?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> !es
[02:53] <BluesKaj> oops
[03:12] <etfb> Is there a way to burn an .iso to a CD that isn't K3B?  K3B is a useless piece of shit.
[03:12] <xjjk> etfb: what's wrong with k3b...
[03:13] <etfb> xjjk: It doesn't work.  It claims to burn CDs, but fails with unspecified errors on verification.  I nearly sent my laptop back for expensive repairs because of it, but it happens in any machine I put it in, with any brand of CDs.
[03:13] <xjjk> etfb: how did you verify that it wasn't your laptop?
[03:14] <xjjk> etfb: k3b is just a frontend to several command-line burning utilities
[03:14] <cjae> anyone here use amarok frequenty? mainly to listen to shoutcast streams, I need to know how to not have to press stop to get it to start a new stream eg. shoutcast
[03:14] <etfb> xjjk: Oh, I'm sure it's possible that every computer I use k3b in just coincidentally has hardware problems that disappear when I install Windows XP and try again.  That's very likely.
[03:15] <etfb> xjjk: Maybe it's leprechauns.
[03:16] <xjjk> well, if you're having problems with it, you'll most likely have problems with other recording software
[03:17] <xjjk> have you tried k3b's GNOME counterpart? Brasero I think?
[03:17] <k0pp> my kubuntu machine is _constantly_ emitting some noise from the speakers.  its just static.  but.. when music or something plays, the static gets quieter.  this issue _only_ exists on kubuntu for this machine... sound works fine on my Windows and FreeBSD partition.  any ideas?
[03:18] <etfb> k0pp: I get that when the microphone is not muted.  Go into kmix and fiddle with the inputs.
[03:19] <xjjk> k0pp: is this a laptop? do you have a mic? have you checked it's muted?
[03:19] <k0pp> hrm, i'l go check
[03:19] <k0pp> one sec
[03:19] <k0pp> no its a desktop, fyi.
[03:19] <cjae> xjjk: k3b was very good but either ubuntu or the maintainer had dumbed it down so much that it is starting to get bab
[03:19] <k0pp> xjjk, etfb, no, the MIC led is not on
[03:20] <cjae> xjjk: I just recently replaced my plextor 716a  to a lite on drive and errors I was experincing with k3b are less now
[03:20] <k0pp> infact all of the input devices are off
[03:20] <etfb> k0pp: Try other inputs.  There are a bunch of them.
[03:20] <k0pp> they're _all_ off :/
[03:20] <xjjk> cjae: is that k3b or the underlying software, though...
[03:21] <k0pp> what the hell could be making that static
[03:21] <cjae> plex=$150 and lite on = $36
[03:21] <etfb> k0pp: I seem to recall there was a way to make more options appear, but I can't find it...
[03:21] <cjae> xjjk: you can select two different cli backends in the option irrc
[03:21] <etfb> Hey Slartibartfast! How are the fjords?
[03:21] <k0pp> etfb, you can right click on the tab you want for more
[03:22] <k0pp> i have them all enabled
[03:22] <k0pp> and they're all off ;/
[03:22] <Slartibartfast> etfb: you like them ? :-) ...
[03:23] <etfb> k0pp: Best I can suggest is a process of elimination.  Turn off all inputs and outputs, then switch them on one at a time until you get something useful...
[03:23] <cjae> xjjk: try gnome baker for your iso and see though but it sucks to have to put gnome crap in a kde environement but baker uses dd to copy iso to disk
[03:23] <k0pp> etfb, i've been doing that for like 20 minutes lol.
[03:23] <xjjk> cjae: thanks, etfb was having the k3b issues, though
[03:23] <etfb> k0pp: Hmmm... got me stumped then.
[03:24] <etfb> cjae: Baker, is it?  I don't mind installing GNOME stuff if it works.
[03:24] <cjae> oh sorry doing to many things at once
[03:25] <cjae> etfb: I worked for me when k3b wouldn't I works good for isos here, but like I said all work now I replaced my drive
[03:25] <etfb> cjae: Me too.  Installing Kubuntu on my daughter's laptop (finally found my old install CD cos I can't make a new one) and waiting for the BSG torrents to come online...
[03:26] <cjae> k3b used to never ever fail (edgy) but since 8.04 I it is very strange
[03:26] <etfb> Oh terrific.  Installation failed halfway throug because THAT CD is frakked.
[03:26]  * cjae misses edgy
[03:27] <etfb> Time to go install some GNOME crap and waste another CD.  Linux TCO (Total Cost of Ownership): 4 CDs this morning and counting...
[03:28] <hix> etfb: no usb-stick around? may save you some troubles. i gave up using cds while ago
[03:28] <cjae> etfb: I don't know if you know, at least for me, that drives will appear to even when they are failing
[03:29] <cjae> appear to be good
[03:29] <cjae> that should say
[03:29] <cjae> does img burn work with wine?
[03:29] <etfb> cjae: If this one-month-old top-of-the-line Toshiba laptop's CD drive is failing already, I'll eat my hat.
[03:30] <cjae> I bought one of those two 1/2 years ago and it was a POS
[03:30] <cjae> the drive failed twice in three months and then the graphics card went
[03:31] <etfb> cjae: I bought an Acer that was only useful as a toboggan, but I've never had any trouble with Toshibas.
[03:31] <cjae> It was a toshiba with matshitu or whatever it called multidisc drive I think the lappy was called a Qosmio
[03:31] <cjae> lol
[03:32] <etfb> cjae: Well - apart from the video drivers being too new for Intrepid to handle, although Hardy managed OK once I found the right binary.
[03:32] <cjae> my girlfriend at the time left me and that is the only thing she wanted to take so I gladly let here take it
[03:32] <etfb> cjae: Would have been nicer to give her a venereal disease, from the sound of it...
[03:33] <cjae> you have no idea
[03:33] <cjae> the new g/f is way better, actually not even a comparison
[03:33]  * etfb cherishes his ignorance in the matter of cjae's girlfriends
[03:33] <cjae> :)
[03:34] <etfb> Right... let's see if Baker is any better than the braindead k3b...
[03:35] <cjae> toshiba = $3700 CAD at the time :(
[03:37] <cjae> I also bought my mother a dvd recorder toshiba, that had both vhs and dvd and hdmi, it only plays dvd-r's and the eject sometimes doesn't work without a hard reboot
[03:37] <cjae> some divx xvid will not play, ever
[03:38] <cjae> toshiba dvd player = $361 and no firmware updates to boot
[03:38] <cjae> both from best buy
[03:39] <cjae> bought a $59 philps from walmart runs circles around the toshiba
[03:39] <etfb> Hmmm... Baker seems like typical GNOME software: no options to control it beyond what the nanny-programmer decided was good for you... and if anything goes wrong, the error messages are gibberish because GNOME programmers don't know how to handle exceptions (side effect of a C based system instead of C++).
[03:39] <cjae> ya
[03:40] <cjae> is nero linux an option?
[03:40] <cjae> Ive heard good things about it
[03:40] <etfb> cjae: I don't use proprietary software if I can avoid it.  The risk is too great.
[03:40] <cjae> i c
[03:41] <Slartibartfast> i tried nero linux once ... after that the device disappeared in k3b ... :-(
[03:41] <Slartibartfast> never again nero on my linux
[03:41] <cjae> it sucks burning in cli too
[03:41] <cjae> well I dont like it as much
[03:41] <Slartibartfast> not if you know what to do ...
[03:42] <etfb> Hey wow!  At 14.39, my time, I had approximately 2 minutes to go.  Now at 14.42 I have three minutes to go.  Baker uses Microsoft minutes!
[03:43] <etfb> At this rate, it will take approximately 2.6 times forever!
[03:43] <cjae> Slartibartfast: funny you should say that my friend bought a new burner and it came with nero 7 essential under windows of course, I told him not to install it if cdburnerxp worked, which it did well
[03:44] <cjae> so he did anyway now cdburner will not work no matter what you do to the machine
[03:45] <Slartibartfast> on windows i also don't use nero ... ridiculous nero 9 is more then a gig to burn some cd's and dvd's .... for iso's on windows i use imgburn
[03:45] <etfb> ... 4 minutes remaining...
[03:46] <cjae> I haven't tried it yet but see how dd is being used can you just use that from burning isos etfb
[03:46] <etfb> There was a bug in a version of a CD burner that used to ship regularly with older versions of Windows.  If you used it in XP when it first came out (this is around 2001-2002) it would render the CD drive useless for any purpose until you reinstalled Windows.  Very popular, that was.  The CD software company didn't survive, as I recall...
[03:47] <cjae> dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/whateveryourimageis.iso
[03:47] <etfb> cjae: Are you sure of that syntax?  I thought if = input file and of = output file.
[03:48] <cjae> right backwards
[03:48] <etfb> cjae: Cool.  Worst that could have happened is an ISO file being corrupted I guess, but I'm glad I checked...
[03:48] <Slartibartfast> i don't think you can use dd to burn on a cd ... othewise cdrecord was never needed ..
[03:48] <cjae> ya im not sure
[03:49] <etfb> Slartibartfast: Maybe dd is like fsck and it actually has plugin modules for different situations?
[03:49] <etfb> Slartibartfast: So cdrecord is what dd uses under the hood, perhaps?
[03:49] <etfb> Still 4 minutes remaining... the suspense is killing me...
[03:50] <Slartibartfast> you can make an iso file from a cd with dd, but not the otherway arround ... writing on a cd asks for a special device access .. but ai am not that technical or programmer
[03:50] <cjae> I know dd is great for non-optical situations I use it quite often, but don't know if would work for this
[03:51] <Slartibartfast> cdrecord was a long time the only way to write things to a cd
[03:51] <cjae> etfb: cant you see how gnome is using dd in the show output or whatever
[03:51] <etfb> Ah - <man cdrecord> doesn't work, but <man wodim> does.
[03:51] <cjae> or is it braseo that shows that
[03:52] <azucar> Hello
[03:52] <etfb> cjae: Nope, just some gibberish.  Noticed that they get their UTF encoding wrong so part of the output is even gibberisher than the rest...
[03:53] <etfb> Woohoo!  3 minutes remaining!  May get this done before the heat death of the universe!
[03:54] <etfb> So does GNOME software look less pig-ugly if you use a GNOME window manager?  I can't get over how awful it looks under KDE.
[03:54] <azucar> Not really, GNOME will always look bad
[03:55] <etfb> Tip for programmers: if you're going to have the option to view output from a command-line program, make the window resizable so people can read it...
[03:55] <sukumade> i've never been able to get gnome to look as pretty as kde, even with desktop effects
[03:55] <Slartibartfast> wodim is a fork of cdrecord ...
[03:55] <etfb> Slartibartfast: There you go.  Learn something new every day...
[03:56] <etfb> 2 minutes remaining... can you feel the excitement building?
[03:56] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[03:56]  * Slartibartfast presses F5 on eztv again :-) 
[03:57] <etfb> Slartibartfast: Any sign of it yet?
[03:57] <Slartibartfast> not yet
[03:57] <etfb> Slartibartfast: Frak.
[03:57] <Slartibartfast> hehehe :-)
[04:00] <etfb> Slartibartfast: I'm sure it'll turn out that Starbuck is the first of a new kind of free/open source Cylon, called an Ubulon.  She'll be just like the standard Cylon except you can't get the drivers for her left leg, and her duodenum keeps crashing randomly and you have to reinstall it from source every couple of weeks.
[04:00] <etfb> Slartibartfast: And Adama will eventually give up and install Windows XP on her and she'll get a virus and die.  Big finale!
[04:00] <Slartibartfast> hehehe
[04:00] <Slartibartfast> lol
[04:01] <Slartibartfast> we'll see
[04:01] <etfb> They should have hired me to write for them.  Would have been a hit.
[04:01] <etfb> Tune in next week and I'll explain how Sylar really gets his powers: sudo brain-get install telekinesis...
[04:01] <Slartibartfast> yeah ... now they are just ... so so :-P
[04:02] <etfb> CD finished burning.  Let's see if it validates...
[04:05] <Slartibartfast> etfb: btw there is an interesting article about this burning software on wikipedia -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wodim
[04:09] <etfb> Slartibartfast: Totally OT, but you know about "The Last Frakkin' Special", right?  http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?sub=specials&clip=8
[04:09] <WatchBot1> etfb, please keep your links on topic and work safe.
[04:09] <etfb> Heh... WatchBot knows that "frak" is a rude word... cute.  What If I said "Felgercarb"...
[04:10] <etfb> Woohoo!  CD tests out OK!  It worked!
[04:11]  * etfb will only use command-line ISO burning in future.  Life is too short to put up with poorly-maintained rubbish like K3B.
[04:19] <sukumade> these college games are killing me
[04:21] <cjae> anyone know how to make the system beep with konversation 1.1
[04:21] <cjae> on a message with my nick in it?
[04:23]  * devilsadvocate cant wait for the last BSG episode. its going to be epic
[04:27] <hix> cjae: theres a notify->highlight (or similar) checkbox to play sounds
[04:28] <cjae> hix can you test me?
[04:29] <hix> cjae, test u
[04:29] <cjae> nothing
[04:30] <hix> test me plz
[04:30] <cjae> hi hix
[04:30] <hix> hrm, nothing ,)
[04:31] <cjae> what is enable system bell on icoming acsii bel
[04:31] <cjae> I am a sever irc noob
[04:32] <hix> its an ascii control code
[04:32] <cjae> and speller by the looks of it
[04:32] <KiLL13013N0W> Is there a visualization program for linux?
[04:33] <cjae> vbox vmware
[04:33] <KiLL13013N0W> thanx
[04:33] <devilsadvocate> KiLL13013N0W, visualization?
[04:33] <cjae> np
[04:33] <KiLL13013N0W> yes
[04:33] <devilsadvocate> as in music > fun graphics?
[04:33] <hix> virtualize visualize... who cares, lol
[04:34] <cjae> opps sorry read wrong
[04:34] <cjae> lol
[04:34] <devilsadvocate> KiLL13013N0W, ^
[04:35] <phma> Anyone here know about initramfs in ubuntu?
[04:36] <cjae> hix can you try now
[04:36] <hix> cjae .. trying
[04:36] <cjae> nothing
[04:38] <hix> cjae: i have no entry for Konversation in system-sounds in kde, i use kde 4.2.1 and Konversation still is 3.5.10... that may cause it
[04:38] <cjae> one more time pls
[04:38] <hix> cjae: 1more
[04:40] <cjae> that is the exact some I am using
[04:40] <cjae> same
[04:41] <hix> BSG arrived
[04:42] <etfb> hix, you beat me to it.  Woo!
[04:43] <hix> the final will be 3 hours splitted in 2 parts, i think ;)
[04:45] <etfb> hix: Nope, two hours in one go, but three or more on the DVD.
[04:46] <hix> so this is _the_ final now?
[04:47] <husayn> i want to open .rar file in Kubuntu
[04:47] <husayn> i cant open it. . its giving an error.. do i need an extra softawre for that
[04:48] <hix> husayn: sudo apt-get install unrar
[04:49] <cjae> cjae:  what are you doing
[04:49] <cjae> well that doesn't work
[04:49] <hix> cjae: test
[04:49] <hix> i#ll try also
[04:50] <cjae> i#II
[04:50] <cjae> Enter a string pattern here. Any message received that matches this pattern, anywhere in the message, will activate the highlighting for the message
[04:51] <cjae> 	
[04:51] <cjae> If you wish, Konversation will play a sound when the pattern is matched
[04:51] <cjae> ummm
[04:51] <cjae> if I left the field as new it was beeping from #ubuntu everytime someone said new
[04:52] <cjae> very strange
[04:53] <cjae> but putting it as cjae does not work
[04:53] <hix> not even the soundtest-button works here
[04:53] <cjae> mine does
[04:55] <cjae> its very annoying when you ask something and have to stay by the box
[04:55] <husayn> how to open .swf file in kubuntu
[04:56] <hix> husayn: install flash plugin and open in browser or install adobe flash standalone flash player for linux from their website
[04:58] <hix> husayn: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/10/flash_player_10_linux_dev.tar.gz
[04:59] <husayn> thanks
[04:59] <husayn> is that the standalone player ?
[04:59] <hix> yes
[05:02] <husayn> how to change password of user in Kubuntu hardy
[05:04] <hix>  husayn: passwd     (as this user)  or   sudo passwd username
[05:05] <husayn> thanks
[05:05] <hix> yw
[05:08] <husayn> is there a sudo command to install flash player standalone
[05:10] <hix> theres no nedd to install (as far as i can remember) , the binary lies there ready to use. just put it somewhere, /usr/bin  or wherever u find it and call it from there
[05:36] <devilsadvocate> can someone help me get my kmail to accept my gpg keys? I keep getting bad passphrase (without a prompt to enter the passphrase):(
[05:47] <husayn> my external devices are not able to ping me.. i think .... iptables has blocked it
[05:47] <husayn> is it right ?
[05:47] <onurdemir> hello i need help can anyone me for a few questions pls?
[05:53] <husayn> how to configure tftpd on kubuntu
[06:10] <neptunepink> Help! My computer's counts one human second as four!
[06:11] <neptunepink> Halp? :/
[06:31] <husayn> how to configure tftpd on kubuntu
[06:32] <stealth-> anyone know how well terminator works in KDE?
[06:44] <Thi> Question about dhcdbd on Ubuntu 8.04.2. (I'm not receiving an answer on #ubuntu, so thought to ask here) Which object is /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket linked to?  What type of link is it? See pastebin for details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/134656/
[06:46] <stdin> Thi: it's not a link, it's a socket
[06:46] <Thi> Sorry.  I've only recently started to pull away from the GUI...
[06:46] <stdin> it's how some applications communicate with/through the system message bus
[06:47] <stdin> it's for inter-process-communication
[06:47] <Thi> kk makes sense
[06:47] <stdin> it should be there when dbus starts probably
[06:49] <stdin> you can try "/etc/init.d/dbus status" to see if dbus is running, and "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" to start it if it's not
[06:49] <Thi> agreed.  I found the directory /var/run/dbus/ to not exist when I was looking into if it was really there.  I have a feeling that it's suppost to be recreated upon each boot somewhere.  Shall have to google this...
[06:49] <Thi> kk, am doing
[06:51] <Thi> hrm, it wasn't running.  Upon the starting of it, I was than able to reconfigure dhcdbd without the error pulling up
[06:54] <stdin> it should auto-start on boot
[06:54] <Thi> agreed
[06:54] <Thi> am looking at the rcX directories right now for information on this
[06:54] <stdin> it's /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus here
[06:55] <stdin> though it seems it's not started in a single-user/recovery session
[06:56] <husayn> i want to make a tftp server in kubuntu
[06:56] <husayn> how to make it
[06:56] <Thi> odd.  it's not listed.  S24dhcdbd is though
[06:59] <stdin> husayn: probably by installing one of tftpd-hpa, atftpd or tftpd
[06:59] <husayn> i have installed tftp , and then in Konsole i type tftp and then i dont know its commands
[06:59] <Thi> it's listed under rc3.d->rc5.d though
[06:59] <husayn> is there any gui program for that
[07:00] <stdin> Thi: something mush have happened to the link then, try recreating it "sudo ln -s ../init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus"
[07:01] <Thi> ty, i cp'd it, but this is a better idea.
[07:02] <stdin> husayn: I don't know, tftp isn't used much. but the commands should be similar to ftp
[07:02] <Thi> restarting
[07:05] <Thi> working now
[07:05] <Thi> ty!
[07:05] <stdin> np :)
[07:06] <Thi> I changed my hostname and it got removed somehow...
[07:06] <Thi> was unable to recreate just now for some reason
[07:19] <Thi> I did, however, find an interesting error.  Amarok 1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3.2 errors upon loading when the hostname is <hostname>²
[07:25] <jason_> jingo.ix.us.dal.net
[07:32] <gnumm> hi
[07:32] <gnumm> i use kubuntu hardy with kde 3
[07:32] <gnumm> when i wake up my pc from supend to ram, i have no sound
[07:32] <gnumm> how could i fix this?
[07:54] <beardbar> can I have an extra hard drive mount on startup? I like to keep all my media on a seperate drive but finding it diffult to add my collection to amarok
[07:55] <cerecitas> beardbar: fstab should do it
[07:55] <cerecitas> i mean you add the hard drive to fstab and should be mounted at startup
[07:55] <beardbar> ok - ya i  think i found a tutorial, the ubuntu forums are down for me right now
[07:56] <cerecitas> same for me
[07:56] <cerecitas> anyway it's just about adding one line
[07:58] <beardbar> think i found it, I had to mount but my extra hd disks first, i did that through dolphin, but doesnt tell me how to see what drive numbers are so I can add em to my /etc/fstab
[07:59] <beardbar> cerecitas: do you know a way to view all hd details.
[07:59] <cerecitas> second i will find the command...
[07:59] <cerecitas> i am a disaster to remember but got them allgathered
[07:59] <cerecitas> sudo fdisk -l
[07:59] <cerecitas> in a terminal
[08:00] <cerecitas> will give you all the outputs
[08:00] <beardbar> thanks got it
[08:00] <cerecitas> np
[08:02] <cerecitas> now does someone exactly which updates need to be enabled on third party software to get amarok2 installed? i already added the repository but it does not want to come :D
[08:02] <cerecitas> exactly know*
[08:02] <Slartibartfast> beardbar: in fstab you point to a partition by it's UUID number ... you can find that to do as sudo vol_id /dev/partition
[08:04] <Slartibartfast> cerecitas: i think you can get amarok2 to add a ppa repository
[08:04] <cerecitas> i added the repository already, the one it says but i do not seem to be able to find amarok2 anywhere
[08:04] <cerecitas> so i guessed i should do something else on 3rd party software
[08:05] <Slartibartfast> http://www.kubuntu.org/amarok2-beta2
[08:07] <Slartibartfast> or more recent posting : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0.1.1
[08:07] <cerecitas> let me see the second because the first i already did
[08:08] <Slartibartfast> cerecitas: they are the same instructions
[08:08] <cerecitas> i will check if i enabled the recommended updates
[08:09] <Slartibartfast> cerecitas: install with sudo apt-get install amarok2 ... i think is the right comamnd
[08:09] <Slartibartfast> command
[08:09] <Slartibartfast> cerecitas: i just see it's called amarok-kde4
[08:10] <cerecitas> aha ok sec
[08:10] <TKorvus> anyone awake?
[08:10] <cerecitas> few of us TKorvus :p
[08:10] <TKorvus> I've just completed an install
[08:10] <cerecitas> oh Slartibartfast thanks it isinstalled
[08:11] <Strog_> i have an old kubuntu distribution and wanted to do a dist-upgrade from a cd. In sources.list I dont have a cdrom entry so i tries the following command: apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add i get errors on that
[08:11] <Slartibartfast> OK
[08:11] <TKorvus> i've got some white dots on the left side of my screen.
[08:11] <TKorvus> black screen i should say
[08:11] <TKorvus> seems to be froze
[08:12] <TKorvus> would kubuntu set an incorrect resolution during an install?
[08:12] <Strog_> uname -r gives me 2.6.17-12-generic
[08:12] <noren_> !upgrade
[08:14] <TKorvus> did you all fall asleep or something?
[08:14] <Slartibartfast> Does anybody know a rnice looking chess program ?
[08:14] <Slartibartfast> nice :-)
[08:14] <cerecitas> probably we are just not awake yet TKorvus...
[08:15] <TKorvus> am i on the right track with my problem?
[08:15] <TKorvus> or has someone else experienced this?
[08:15] <cerecitas> I think you are in the right place but i have not really get it... you just did a fresh install and right now you have dots in the screen?
[08:15] <cerecitas> sorry still with my 1st coffee
[08:16] <TKorvus> correct
[08:16] <TKorvus> i had a graphics card in at first.  dots were in middle of screen
[08:16] <TKorvus> i removed the graphics card and now they're on the left
[08:16] <cerecitas> but you have desktop right?
[08:16] <TKorvus> no
[08:17] <TKorvus> black screen with the dots in the middle on the left.
[08:17] <cerecitas> which graphic card you are using?
[08:17] <TKorvus> mx440
[08:17] <TKorvus> i'm using onboard video right now.
[08:17] <cerecitas> hmm i am not any good with this.. maybe the guys around here could help better
[08:18] <TKorvus> do you know how I can change the resolution?
[08:18] <cerecitas> hmmm not really... x and i hate each other so i don't mess too much there
[08:19] <TKorvus> do you have access to ubuntu forums?  keeps giving me a database error.
[08:19] <cerecitas> seems to be down at the moment
[08:20] <TKorvus> ok
[08:20] <TKorvus> suppose i'll pole the chan again when more people are awake.
[08:20] <TKorvus> not my fault i work second :)
[08:24] <Slayer> ... What are Widgets? There is the button on a desktop (or whatever it is) saying Add widgets or something
[08:30] <Strog_> when i try apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom/ add to make a distupgrade it fails at the allocation of the Packages file which is actually there. any ideas y it doesn work?
[08:30] <aza> #gentoo
[08:34] <cerecitas> Strog_:  maybe, and i am not sure about this, you can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the cd rom you have, commenting all the rest of the line
[08:34] <cerecitas> *lines
[08:34] <Strog_> cerecitas: true but i dont know what to enter exactly
[08:35] <cerecitas> hmmm do you want to upgrade to intrepid?
[08:35] <cerecitas> i can check the name of it on my sources
[08:36] <Strog_> cerecitas:i yesterday downloaded the iso of kubuntu so im not sure if it is
[08:37] <cerecitas> hmmm we would need to know at least if it is intrepid or jaunty...
[08:37] <dwidmann> Strog_: alternate iso or desktop iso?
[08:37] <Strog_> desktop iso
[08:37] <cerecitas> besides this change you can undo it so it won't harm... should be easy to get back to what you have
[08:38] <cerecitas> its about commenting and uncommenting
[08:38] <Strog_> ok
[08:38] <cerecitas> let me see
[08:38] <dwidmann> desktop iso can't be used for upgrades, it can only be used for new installs
[08:38] <Strog_> so alternate can be used for upgrades?
[08:38] <cerecitas> anyway Strog_ why not try a simple dist-upgrade from the repos?
[08:38] <dwidmann> Strog_: correct
[08:39] <Strog_> ok ill try that get back to you
[08:40] <dwidmann> Strog_: all you'll need to do is "sudo apt-cdrom add /dev/cdrom" with the alternate disk in your cd drive and you'll be good to go, I think.
[08:41] <Strog_> dwidmann: true but dont u need to add the "add"??
[08:42] <dwidmann> I think that part is required actually, maybe not, try it and see :)
[08:42] <Strog_> ok
[08:47] <eddy> hello
[08:51] <dwidmann> eddy: hi
[08:51] <eddy> German?
[08:52] <dwidmann> !de
[08:53] <dwidmann> I think...
[08:53] <eddy> thx
[08:54] <tarfart> hello friends
[08:54] <tarfart> smplayer or mplayer actually doesent get sound.
[08:54] <tarfart> it plays nicly
[08:54] <tarfart> i get sound with vlc. but i dont like vlc for DVDs
[08:55] <dwidmann> tarfart: try passing mplayer "-ao alsa"
[08:55] <tarfart> where is the equivilant location in the gui to set that?
[08:56] <dwidmann> tarfart: umm, dunno, guess I'll have to pull it up and look
[08:57] <dwidmann> in the gui, right click, preferences, audio tab, click on alsa then click okay
[08:59] <tarfart> i dont see alsa under the audio tab
[09:00] <dwidmann> should be like the second one down in the list ...
[09:03] <tarfart> i right clicked the stage/movie screen.   options > preferences > general > audio tab
[09:03] <tarfart> im on intrepid
[09:04] <tarfart> there's nothing mentioned at all about alsa
[09:04] <dwidmann> Which player are you using ... I was under the impression we were still talking about mplayer and not smplayer or kmplayer or [insert other frontend here]
[09:05] <tarfart> oh sorry. im using smplayer
[09:05] <tarfart> but it's just a front end to mplayer, which is the root of the problem.
[09:05] <tarfart> smplayer
[09:06] <dwidmann> Should be some way to specify which command to run mplayer with somewhere in the options ... try changing it to "mplayer -ao alsa"
[09:06] <dwidmann> (I'd look further, but I don't have smplayer installed at the moment)
[09:07] <tarfart> thanx i got alsa selected with regular mplayer
[09:08] <dwidmann> now to see if that even fixes the problem :)
[09:08] <tarfart> still no go on smplayer. i thought smplayer was just a front end to mplayer
[09:09] <dwidmann> probably uses a separate configuration though
[09:26] <beardbar> whats a good video player?
[09:26] <cerecitas> for me vlc is the best
[09:29] <beardbar> didnt know they had it for linux
[09:30] <cerecitas> jup
[09:56] <beardbar> cerecitas: did ya have to download extra codecs, some of my movies dont have sound
[10:10] <grey08> hello
[10:10] <bazhang> hi
[10:11] <grey08> is there someone can help me?
[10:12] <bazhang> ask a question and if someone knows they will answer
[10:12] <grey08> ok
[10:12] <grey08> i just installed kubuntu desktop 8.10 to my Acer 4715z
[10:13] <grey08> and then i found that wireless lan , amarok is not wotking
[10:13] <grey08> working*
[10:13] <bazhang> grey08, open a konsole and type lspci
[10:13] <bazhang> grey08, then tell us the chipset of the wireless
[10:14] <ubuntu___> just trying jaunty live at the moment...
[10:14] <ubuntu___> looks really promising :-)
[10:14] <grey08> ok, hold on
[10:14] <bazhang> !jaunty
[10:15] <grey08> after i typed lspci, so many lines came out
[10:15] <p-f> On windows with my dell 640m, when I use my touchpad's scroller and flick it downwards, it keeps sending scroll events until I touch the touchpad again. Is there a way to get this behaviour on kubuntu?
[10:16] <bazhang> grey08, copy and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:16] <bazhang> grey08, do NOT paste in this channel
[10:16] <grey08> for the wireless, it is [ Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev01) ]
[10:17] <bazhang> grey08, have you checked in hardware drivers to see if one is available for that
[10:18] <eddy> Hey, need German IRC Ubuntu links 4 Irc plz!?
[10:18] <bazhang> !de
[10:18] <p-f> eddy: versucht #ubuntu.de
[10:18] <eddy> thanks
[10:18] <p-f> eddy: oder kubuntu-de :)
[10:18] <bazhang> bitte
[10:18] <eddy> danke danke
[10:19] <grey08> yes, it says avaible
[10:20] <grey08> and it says [ this drivers is activated and currently in use ]
[10:23] <grey08> i have posted it at paste.ubuntu.com and 134759
[10:25] <tarfart> smplayer doesent work on kbuntu
[10:25] <tarfart> why is there no sound
[10:25] <grey08> go to mixer, and maximum all the volume there
[10:26] <puddle> k0pp
[10:26] <tarfart> grey08: been there done that
[10:26] <puddle> woops
[10:26] <tarfart> how is it smplayer kicks ass on gentoo but sucks on kubuntu.  i thought kubuntu was linux for human noobs. and im doing more typing on kubuntu than gentoo.
[10:26] <tarfart> i get sound on vlc, mplayer, firefox/youtube, but not mplayer?
[10:26] <tarfart> whats wrong with this linux crap.
[10:27] <tarfart> err but not smplayer.
[10:27] <nyad> hi im trying to host online games. I could do it fine in 8.04 but in 8.10 people can't join my game yet they can see it. I have turned off ufw and my router ports are forwarded. What has changed in 8.10 that no longer allows me to host?
[10:28] <panos4ever> which game
[10:28] <bazhang> tarfart, please watch the language
[10:28] <tarfart> how do i make it work ?
[10:28] <panos4ever> nyad
[10:28] <tarfart> it's not working.
[10:28] <panos4ever> which game
[10:28] <tarfart> linux is not working.
[10:28] <grey08> bazhang, i have post the lines at paste.ubuntu.com/134759
[10:29] <nyad> tarfart, hmm if sound works in other apps, I have noticed that in linux some apps have dominated the sound, try rebooting or restarting alsa (if u know how) and then try your player
[10:29] <nyad> panos4ever, warcraft3 with wine, used to work perfectly
[10:29] <nyad> panos4ever, I can join and play just not host
[10:30] <panos4ever> lol
[10:30] <panos4ever> do u have a router???
[10:30] <panos4ever> dont you?
[10:30] <nyad> yes, ports are forwarded
[10:30] <nyad> i have a router
[10:30] <panos4ever> forward port 6112
[10:30] <panos4ever> open it
[10:30] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Atheros_AR242x grey08
[10:30] <nyad> i can host in windows
[10:30] <tarfart> WTF?!?!?!?!?!?  0_0
[10:30] <tarfart> etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:30] <tarfart> that did work
[10:30] <tarfart> how do i make it work.
[10:31] <Tm_T> tarfart: don't use those rude abbreviations, thanks
[10:31] <nyad> tarfart, compile it yourself then
[10:31] <panos4ever> do u have a firewall installed on linux???
[10:31] <tarfart> junk shit linux.... lol compile it.
[10:31]  * tarfart puts the xp cd back in.
[10:31] <bazhang> tarfart, stop that
[10:31] <tarfart> junk shit linux garbage sucks.
[10:31] <panos4ever> watch your language tartarf
[10:31] <bazhang> !ops | tarfart
[10:31] <nyad> tarfart, i thought u said u were a gentoo user, ??????????????
[10:31] <panos4ever> tartart
[10:32] <panos4ever> i have something for u
[10:32] <panos4ever> type sudo rm -rf /
[10:32] <bazhang> panos4ever, he is gone
[10:32] <bazhang> panos4ever, dont type that!
[10:32] <panos4ever> idiot
[10:32] <panos4ever> ok man
[10:32] <panos4ever> okkkkkkk
[10:32] <bazhang> panos4ever, not even as a joke, never type that
[10:32] <panos4ever> sorryyyyyyyyyy
[10:32] <nyad> i didn't install it manually but it seems ufw was installed. so I disabled ufw
[10:32] <panos4ever> i know
[10:33] <nyad> shame
[10:33] <nyad> he was helping me :(
[10:33] <bazhang> he was rude.
[10:33] <jussi01> !danger
[10:38] <nyad> i turned off ufw, is there perhaps another firewall/packet filter which is blocking my warcraft and not allowing people to join my game?
[10:48] <jussi01> nyad: you checked your routers firewall perhaps?
[10:48] <nyad> jussi01, I dont think its that. I can host from windows fine
[10:49] <nyad> jussi01, doubt the problem is wine because it worked in 8.04. 8.10 refuses to let me host, but I can do everything else in it
[10:55] <hix> nyad: try    sudo iptables -L     to see if theres a setup
[10:56] <tarfart> why is hydra not listed under apt-cache search ?
[10:56] <nyad> all policy's are set to ACCEPT.  note I have disabled ufw
[10:57] <hix>  then it should work
[10:57] <nyad> which is supposed to be a simpler interface to IPtables, (afaik, plz correct if im wrong)
[10:57] <nyad> hix yea, thats what I thought....
[10:58] <grey08> bazhang, i have followed the instructions at the page u given
[10:58] <grey08> but, until the link to download a file, it seems like...broken
[10:58] <bazhang> grey08, and what were the errors if any
[10:59] <grey08> it says error 404, not found
[11:02] <tarfart> why is hydra not in apt-get ?
[11:02] <tarfart> nor listed under apt-cache search
[11:02] <tarfart> what do i have to type to make it work ?
[11:04] <jussi01> and just what is hydra?
[11:05] <hix> tarfart: the webserver or the cracktool?
[11:05] <jussi01> or the irc client?
[11:05] <hix> ah yes, hydraIrc
[11:06] <hix>  ;)
[11:06] <hix> thats why hydra ;) lot og heads
[11:06] <hix>  of
[11:07] <tarfart> hix the crack tool
[11:07]  * tarfart wants the crack tool.
[11:11] <hix> maybe kind of philosophy... if you dont can compile it, dont use such tools ;) No, i have no idea
[11:13] <tarfart> huh?
[11:13] <tarfart> what do i have to type to make it work.
[11:14] <nortt> Hi all
[11:14] <nyad> ./configure --prefix /usr/local/ && make && sudo make install
[11:14] <nortt> Can i compile KDE 4.2 from aKubuntu 8.10?
[11:15] <bazhang> nortt, no need
[11:15] <bazhang> nortt, just enable backports
[11:16] <tarfart> hydra-sip.c:4:25: error: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory
[11:17] <tarfart> hydra-sip.c:5:25: error: openssl/err.h: No such file or directory
[11:17] <tarfart> hydra-sip.c:6:25: error: openssl/md5.h: No such file or directory
[11:17] <tarfart> and more errors
[11:17] <nortt> How i can enable backports?
[11:17] <bazhang> nortt, via the package manager
[11:18] <nortt> plz describe
[11:18] <tarfart> jesus christ!!!!!!!!
[11:18] <tarfart> what do i have to type to make it work
[11:18] <tarfart> i just want a friggen program. sheesh
[11:18] <bazhang> tarfart, calm down and watch the language
[11:18] <nortt> i use Adept
[11:18] <bazhang> nortt, that is fine
[11:19] <bazhang> nortt, let me open adept and check
[11:19] <tarfart> what do i have to type to make it work
[11:19] <nyad> tarfart, its not so much as to what you have to type as to what you have to read
[11:19] <tarfart> where is ssl.h
[11:21] <nyad> could be in the openSSL package or tar file
[11:23] <tarfart> i have that
[11:24] <tarfart> i already ran apt-get install openssl libssl0.9.8
[11:24] <bazhang> nortt, should be 'unsupported updates' in kubuntu software ; click that, then close and update sources.list
[11:24] <gildo> ola
[11:25] <bazhang> !br
[11:26] <gildo> Br
[11:26] <bazhang> gildo, /join #ubuntu-br
[11:27] <nyad> tarfart, try installing the -dev versions of those packages as well
[11:28] <nortt> !uck
[11:28] <nortt> !ressurector
[11:32] <nortt> And where i can download  Latest kernel?
[11:33] <nyad> kernel.org
[11:33] <bazhang> nortt, you wish to compile for yourself?
[11:33] <bazhang> nortt, that is completely unsupported of course (ie you are on your own)
[11:38] <nyad> what free/opensource virtual machine  do you recommend for running windows and beeing fast enough to play games?
[11:42] <nortt> Virtual Box
[11:44] <bazhang> games? as in 3D games?
[11:45] <nyad> ya
[11:45] <nyad> like warcraft 3
[11:45] <bazhang> wine
[11:45] <bazhang> check the appdb
[11:45] <bazhang> !appdb
[11:49] <nortt> How to mount ntfs?
[11:49] <tarfart> hi im compiling a program and it needs gtk 2.0  but already installed libglib2.0-dev
[11:50] <userone> is there any howto on adjusting fonts in kde?
[11:50] <tarfart> apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libglib2.0-data  libglib2.0-0
[11:50] <tarfart> why is my make saying i need gtk 2.0
[11:51] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g
[11:51] <tarfart> what do i have to type to get gtk 2.0  ?
[11:53] <nortt> thx i change fstab all work))
[11:54] <userone> mainly if I disable anti aliasing it seems kde 3 based progs like konversation seems to ignore the settings
[11:55] <userone> is there any other place to change that anti aliasing?
[12:05] <dr_willis> hmm.. libglib is not  gtk2 its 'glib'
[12:05] <bazhang> yep he is crossposting about it now
[12:05] <bazhang> seems there is a factoid about that
[12:20] <Havoc][> hello together.. does anyone knows how i can update kubuntu intrepid to KDE 4.2.1? I get the following http://pastebin.com/m42e58cca dependencie errors.
[12:20] <tarfart> ubuntu is an asshole for ommiting hydra from the repos
[12:21] <bazhang> tarfart, stop cursing please
[12:23] <tarfart> well it's true
[12:23] <tarfart> now im in dependancy hell
[12:24] <farhad_hf> hi
[12:24] <bazhang> hi
[12:27] <dr_willis> Havoc][:  update, the package listings, then try the upgrade again perhaps. when i upgraded a few weeks back i had to manually remove some conflicting package then rerun the upgrade.   but i thought that had been fixed by now
[12:30] <farhad_hf> i'm having problems with installing nvidia driver, i installed it from repository and after restarting my computer kdm didn't start, then i downloaded driver from the site of nvidia and installed linux-source and linux-headers . but nvidia-installer has errors : http://pastebin.com/f75cf158d , what's wrong here?
[12:30] <Havoc][> dr_willis: *hm* it seems that there are some dep. bugs - i have upgraded the package list already a many times. someone at #kubuntu-de told me, that i should update strigi first..
[12:33] <dr_willis> Havoc][:  could remove what ever is conflicting i guess and  reinstall it later if it dosent get added back in autopmatically
[12:33] <dr_willis> ive not messed with kde 4.2 in some time. so  thats about all i rember on the issues i had
[12:37]  * farhad_hf kubuntu 8.10 , gforce fx5500 , driver : nvidia-glx-173
[12:40] <Havoc][> dr_willis: seems to be broken *grml*
[12:40] <Havoc][> The following packages are BROKEN: kdebase-runtime kdelibs5
[12:41] <dr_willis> not sure what to do about those Havoc][ . could try removing them.   but that may break the working system.. you Might want to install a backup window manager just in case. :) like icewm
[12:41] <Havoc][> lol :-)
[12:42] <Havoc][> dr_willis: it *is* broken :-). I have removed everything, but i cant install them now.
[12:42] <dr_willis> Havoc][:   Bummer. You broke it.
[12:43] <dr_willis> apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and pray, and try again? :)
[12:43] <bazhang> kdelibs5 means it is fully unusable; that is the puregnome component
[12:43] <Havoc][> just, tried :-). Nothing *g*
[12:43] <Havoc][> i know.
[12:43] <Havoc][> Is there any bugreport about that?
[12:43] <bazhang> so do a pure gnome then reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[12:44] <bazhang> albeit have a backup wm
[12:44] <bazhang> lxde is a nice choice :)
[12:44] <dr_willis> jwm + rox filer :P
[12:51] <chris-rc1> hello
[12:51] <bazhang> hi
[12:53] <chris-rc1> top shows me significantly higher values for pcu usgage than does 'system activity'. is there a reason for this?
[13:01] <_strog> i tried to  make a distribution upgrade from the latest alternate cd but it didnt work when i entered: apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom
[13:42] <mick__> bonjour quelqu'un pourrai m'aider ?
[13:42] <HackSam> hi there...how can i know which ubuntu version i am on?
[13:43] <hinka> Hi
[13:43] <hinka> QUien esta conectado
[13:43] <hinka> que hable español
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:50] <bazhang> hi
[13:55] <delicowa> hey
[14:00] <edgy> Hi, I cannot connect my broadcom to a WPA access point and don't know how to troubleshoot it.  I can connect to open netowork only
[14:02] <bentob0x> how can I install 2.6.27-12 on 8.10?  Is there some repositories or something I need to add?
[14:27] <math> hi, need help instaling a web cam
[14:28] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[14:28] <math> is a microsoft ( =P )  sweb cam
[14:28] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[14:28] <math> oks, try it
[14:29] <math> thanks
[14:37] <math> sorry
[14:37] <math> is not working
[14:37] <bazhang> what did you install to test
[14:37] <math> i install the easy cam
[14:37] <math> then ls /dev/video*
[14:37] <bazhang> what application eg cheese
[14:38] <math> Easycam  and camorama
[14:38] <bazhang> !info cheese
[14:38] <math> then try with skype and amsn
[14:39] <math> when excecute ls /dev/video*
[14:39] <math> not found any
[14:39] <bazhang> is it a supported cam (from that list)?
[14:39] <math> is a m$ lifecam vx-1000
[14:40] <math> y google that , but i cant install
[14:40] <math> i dont now
[14:40] <math> how can see if is a supported cam ?
[14:41] <math> in Ubuntu 7.10 i make it work
[14:41] <math> but here (kubuntu 8.10 ) no
[14:41] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+microsoft-lifecam-vx-1000?id=6610
[14:42] <bazhang> looks like you need to get gspca for that and even then it is not very good for intrepid
[14:43] <math> in ubuntu , see ugly, but can see
[14:43] <math> here, nothing, cant install
[14:44] <math> im lost ?
[14:44] <bazhang> barely supported it seems
[14:44] <bazhang> ie more trouble than it is worth to get going
[14:44] <math> ok
[14:45] <bazhang> you can certainly try though :)
[14:45] <koperton> problem here http://imagebin.ca/view/lim7h12U.html
[14:45] <bazhang> just have to weigh the cost/benefit ratio
[14:46] <koperton> magnifier sucks http://imagebin.ca/view/lim7h12U.html
[14:48] <math> yes, understand , im not have much knowledge in linux , cost/benifit is bad here
[14:49] <koperton> math: ?
[14:50] <bazhang> math, for anyone, not just you. Not about linux knowledge but poor support from the manufacturer (MS, no surprise there)
[14:51] <math> yes is true
[14:51] <bazhang> math, many cams do work well. sorry yours is not one of them
[14:51] <math> i love linux, and the open source
[14:51] <math> im java developer
[14:51] <math> nw in linux
[14:52] <math> (and in english )
[14:55] <rmrfslash_> I'm a bit confused. I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670... should I install the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[14:56] <koperton> !ati
[14:57] <rmrfslash_> The binary driver doesn't work
[14:57] <rmrfslash_> I mean, it works but resume from hibernation is broken
[14:57] <koperton> ati sucks as always
[14:57] <rmrfslash_> Not really.
[14:58] <neo_> hi
[14:58] <rmrfslash_> At least they have an open source driver.
[14:58] <rmrfslash_> that AMD supports
[14:59] <rmrfslash_> So anyways, can someone answer my original question?
[14:59] <math_> sorry, restart pc
[14:59] <math_> i come back in 20 min
[14:59] <koperton> i still prefer intel
[15:00] <koperton> ati sucks and now some nvidia too
[15:00] <rmrfslash_> To each their own, but I think the ATI hatred is turning somewhat legacy
[15:00] <koperton> in the most of cases you have only to get restriced driver
[15:00] <koperton> to get something works
[15:01] <koperton> if there is ati
[15:01] <koperton> or at least it was in this way
[15:03] <rmrfslash_> Well, either way, it's 2009 and there's an open source ATI driver and shitty docs for configuring it or which one you need for which card.
[15:03] <tq|Memphis> anyone can suggest me a good mp3 player please, i'm new on UNiX
[15:03] <rmrfslash_> This is what apt says: xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver
[15:03] <rmrfslash_> songbird
[15:03] <rmrfslash_> Mozilla frickin' Songbird
[15:04] <rmrfslash_> unless you want something hardware.... then I like iPod
[15:05] <rmrfslash_> Like, what is r5xx r6xx?
[15:05] <killermach> I've been battling this for quite some time and I found the source of the issue..... even tho synaptic shows cups-pdf to be installed, there is no /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf file
[15:05] <killermach> I have marked it for reinstallation.. this still did not fix it
[15:06] <rmrfslash_> sudo updatedb &&  locate cups-pdf.conf
[15:06] <rmrfslash_> maybe it's somewhere else?
[15:07] <killermach> rmrfslash_: I get that file location from the properties tab-> installed files
[15:07] <rmrfslash_> oh
[15:08] <killermach> ok.. marked it for complete removal, then reinstall and I have the config file..
[15:08] <rmrfslash_> gotta reboot...
[15:08] <tq|Memphis> synaptic package manager says that : amarok is a good media player "FOR KDE" but i'm using gnome GUI is it a problem?
[15:08] <killermach> that wasted a large amount of time.. I expected synaptic to accurately provide information
[15:08] <rmrfslash_> yeah, you just need to install Qt
[15:09] <rmrfslash_> which will be a dependency for Amarok
[15:09] <rmrfslash_> You should try Songbird though
[15:09] <killermach> it's been broke for months
[15:09] <rmrfslash_> its GTK
[15:09] <rmrfslash_> it's not in synaptic though
[15:09] <tq|Memphis> ah yes
[15:10] <rmrfslash_> but it can be downloaded and run (no compile)
[15:10] <rmrfslash_> it looks a lot like itunes and has a firefox-like plugin architecture
[15:11] <rmrfslash_> Amarok is going to have a tough time competing w/ this I think
[15:11] <rmrfslash_> k time to reboot
[15:12] <bazhang> banshee would be superior choice to songbird
[15:12] <bazhang> it is in the repos, it works, and is not broken
[15:17] <jinghe> what's this ?
[15:44] <mirko_> hello. I'm working with kubuntu 8.10 and I failed in every intent to install a flash plugin who serves with firefox. somebody can help mi?
[15:45] <bazhang> mirko_, flashplugin-nonfree from the repos?
[15:45] <mirko_> doesn't work
[15:56] <Zengol> Good morning guy's/gal's.
[15:56] <Zengol> I have a question.
[15:56] <Zengol> How would i go about formatting a harddrive in 8.10 without installing any extra software?
[15:57] <Zengol> I am currently booted off of the cd without installation, i wanna format this harddrive to be a completely clean format for a new installation at a later use.
[16:08] <tq|Memphis> can someone tell me a good torrent program please
[16:08] <tq|Memphis> this transmission is not working good
[16:09] <blkdg> hi, is anyone using an NVIDIA GeForce 8200M or a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M ?
[16:10] <blkdg> i was wondering how they performed in kubuntu.
[16:10] <Zengol> Try Ktorrent.
[16:19] <blkdg> anyone?
[16:20] <bazhang> !torrent
[16:21] <rafpix> :-S
[16:25] <Zengol> !format
[16:25] <userone> anyone knows how to set font anti aliasing settings for kde3 and gtk apps?
[16:25] <Zengol> Needed 8.10....
[16:26] <Zengol> Oh well...
[16:26] <userone> you should be able to format during installation
[16:27] <dkkong> My X11 is screwy this morning. It's got a 0hz refresh rate and I can't select higher. I just have a generic onboard Intel graphics system. What can I do?
[16:37] <blkdg> thanks anyhoe
[16:39] <BluesKaj> hmm, amarok 2's latest offering still doesn't do much for me ... I'd settle for Kradio with the internet stream option except it needs cmake to install, but cmake doesn't work on my setup
[16:40] <BluesKaj> cmake chat tells me it's kde4 's fault and on it goes the blame game merry-go-round
[16:40] <BluesKaj> anyway BBL
[16:41] <philena> good afternoon
[16:42] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Anyone use Jaunty yet? How stable is it?
[16:43] <jussi01> CoJaBo-Aztec: join #ubuntu+1 for jaunty stuff
[16:43] <philena> I'm trying to turn a ViewSonic TV into a PC monitor.  When I try to plug in the VGA from the computer to the TV, my TV shuts down.  I thought I needed to change the resolution in Kubuntu, but when I got to the display settings, it kicks out and reboots the system
[16:44] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jussi01: Thanks.
[16:44] <CoJaBo-Aztec> join #ubuntu+1
[16:46] <philena> hello?
[16:46]  * kuaera pops.
[16:47] <philena> yes, it pops blank.. next thing I know, I'm entering my login at the flash page
[16:48] <kuaera> philena: I'm not certain what to tell you. Unless you're skilled at tinkering with xorg.conf, you may have to wait a while until someone happens along who's more informed.
[17:00] <zejtar> hi. How can i add kde 4.2.1 to kubuntu 8.10 liveCD ?
[17:00] <tarfart> freepository.com  why wont it let me log in?
[17:00] <tarfart> konqueror and firfox dont work on that site
[17:02] <tarfart> nm i got it
[17:03] <mirko_> hi everybody. I'm trying to install a flash plugin for kubunt 8.10/firefox 3 but no one works. neither does flushplugin-nonfree. what can I do?
[17:04] <NakedNous> Hi
[17:15] <philena> are you installing plugins through firefox or through the the despository?
[17:16] <philena> I don't understand why firefox plugins are in there.  firefox installs plugins just fine by itself
[17:16] <tarfart> god damn linux garbage sucks.  it cant even do stuff with freepository.com
[17:17] <tarfart> junk shit
[17:29] <blane> Hey all, I want to install KDE 4.2.1 (I have 4.2.0.0) but adept can't find any updates for kde/qt even with pre-released updates on. What do I have to do to get 4.2.1?
[17:31] <blane> anybody?
[17:33] <blane> nevermind, google is your friend.
[17:34] <alexander_> reconstructorsoftware is dead?
[17:41] <Math1s> hello
[17:43] <Math1s> I've tried Ubuntu 8.10 and got a network connection with it
[17:44] <Math1s> now trying Kubuntu 8.10 but cannot get a network connection
[17:44] <Math1s> strange
[17:46] <paolo> ciao
[17:47] <paolo> !list
[17:51] <Doeman> Hey guys i reinstalled windows and now my grub is gone. With my old pc i simply used the SUPER Grub disk and fixed it with that. Now, however for some reason i dont get the super grub disk menu and i go directly to some command line version. I dont know what to do, any ideas? Thanks
[17:53] <BluesKaj> !Grub | Doeman
[17:54] <Doeman> bluekaj, ive read that but never got it to work, only thing that helped was the super grub disk..
[17:54] <stealth-> anyone know how to change my mirror from kubuntu?
[18:01] <ushurma> as
[18:07] <draik> Hello everyone.
[18:11] <alexander_> anyone russian here?
[18:12] <ibrar> Is there any way to aggregate bandwidth of two ethernet
[18:37] <DarthFrog> Does anyone know of a good email client with which I can forward a HTML email and strip out the sender's ID & email address.  i.e. just forward the HMTL body, not the headers?
[18:37] <DarthFrog> That KMail can't do it is it's major drawback.
[18:37] <DarthFrog> s/its/it's/
[18:38] <roz2> I just set up Jaunty, and it appears that OpenGL is not working in hardware.  I have a ATI Radeon 3650
[18:38] <roz2> GLXGears only gives me like 300 FPS
[18:39] <roz2> mythtv falls back to software
[18:39] <noren> !jaunty | roz2
[18:39] <roz2> oops I meant intrepid
[18:40] <roz2> first time ubuntu user, long time linux user
[18:40] <noren> !ati | roz2
[18:42] <roz2> Wow... thats pretty darn cool.
[18:44] <roz2> OK. It says I need to restart the computer to complete this installation of the drivers.  I know thats not true, and I can't restart, as I am running liveCD.  Do I just need to exit X, and run a modprobe fglrx at the command prompt?
[18:46] <rmrfslash_> Let me just say the radeonhd driver is really coming along :)
[18:46] <noren> roz2: i thouht u were on permanent install
[18:46] <rmrfslash_> well... the open source ati drivers in general
[18:46] <limette> hi ^^
[18:47] <roz2> nope, just test driving right now.  Pretty attached to gentoo... and making sure that everything I do is good with KUbuntu
[18:47] <noren> !hi | Limette
[18:47] <roz2> noren: can I modprobe the driver?
[18:48] <noren> roz2: u can try but i m not sure if its good on live cd
[18:49] <roz2> noren: how do you shutdown X?
[18:49] <roz2> noren: in gentoo, I would /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[18:49] <noren> ctrl alt backspace
[18:49] <noren> same u can do here also
[18:50] <roz2> noren: thanks
[18:53] <roz__> noren: OMG its beautiful now,  transparency yummm
[18:54] <noren> good
[18:56] <DarthFrog> roz__: Try this command "glxgears".  If you do it from an xterm, youi'll get a FPS report.
[18:58] <limette> somehow i closed my taskbar, how can i start it again ? ^^
[18:59] <noren> limette: what do u mean
[18:59] <triune> if jaunty ships with 2.6.28
[18:59] <triune> will there be an upgrade to 2.6.29 later?
[18:59] <limette> well i dont know how its called in english, the thing very bottom of your screen where you can see what windows are open
[18:59] <triune> or will we have to wait for the 9.10 ?
[19:00] <noren> limette: just right click and add a panel then u can add the desired widget there
[19:01] <noren> !jaunty | triune
[19:03] <userone> hi
[19:04] <noren> !hi | userone
[19:05] <limette> noren: Thank you very much, i got it back now ^^
[19:06] <noren> limette: ur welcome
[19:11] <triune> thanks, but i was just asking a question about releases in general
[19:11] <triune> if out-of-cycle updates happen to the kernel package
[19:12] <CoXmiK> hello
[19:15] <starenka> hi, can find a kde 4.2.1 repo for hardy, any clues?
[19:16] <rmrfslash_> How can I enable Capture & Caputre 2 (my microphones) permanently. It seems that everytime I reboot, these devices a re deselected/
[19:16] <rmrfslash_> I'm enabling these in hda intel mixer
[19:18] <alexander_> where i can find kDE splasah images?
[19:20] <mick__> maybe on http://www.kde-look.org/
[19:22] <alexander_> no i ned a pth where it save?
[19:23] <mefisto__> rmrfslash_: are you talking about a kmix setting?
[19:23] <rmrfslash_> mmmmmmm i think so
[19:23] <rmrfslash_> whatever you open when you click on the volume icon in the taskbar and hit "Mixer"
[19:24] <rmrfslash_> sorry, click on the volume icon in the system tray
[19:25] <mefisto__> try this: set things up the way you want them, then settings menu, configure kmix, and click OK or Apply. that seems to save the settings for me
[19:26] <rmrfslash_> k
[19:26] <rmrfslash_> I have to reboot to check if this worked... but ill take your work for it
[19:26] <rmrfslash_> ;)
[19:26] <rmrfslash_> I'm making a document that will explain how to get an entire XPS 16 working
[19:27] <rmrfslash_> though DRI support in any of the radeon drivers will break resume from suspend-to-ram/disk... this is the only major problem I've encountered
[19:27] <mick__> alexender: i can't help you sorry
[19:28] <mefisto__> rmrfslash_: if you want to see if it worked, quit kmix, then restart it again from the menu
[19:28] <rmrfslash_> Other than this..... I've got a nice working machine. Though my wife (who uses a mac) doesn't know how or why I deal w/ this ;)
[19:28] <rmrfslash_> Kubuntu has WAY BETTER POWER MANAGEMENT THAN GNOME!
[19:28] <rmrfslash_> btw.
[19:30] <BluesKaj> heh, I'm not too happy with the screensaver link to power management on kde4. There's no rhyme or reason to it's implementation..very erratic IMO
[19:41] <rmrfslash_> 4.1?
[19:42] <mick__> Alexender: Ubuntu stores the splash screen file image at directory /usr/share/pixmaps/splash. ( i found it on a website)
[19:44] <ab> #ubuntu
[19:46] <mick__> i think it's the same directory for kubuntu
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:54] <mick__> No codecs aviable on amarok ( for listen webradio), someone can help me?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> !codec
[19:59] <kbmaniac> Hi all, just moved from KDE3 to KDE4 ... wow ... OK having a problem getting my head around the plasma dashboard. Is there an idiots guide around ?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> kbmaniac: ask about it here and the room will reply if it can
[20:01] <alexander_> Can i download and install drivers ati and nvidia both?
[20:01] <mijagi> please join to #krezji
[20:02] <kbmaniac> cool ... OK in plasma dashboard is there a way to resise all the 'plasmoids' without scalling them individually ?
[20:02] <kbmaniac> I get uneven results ... lol
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> erm, not to my knowledge
[20:03] <kbmaniac> OK no worries, its still early days
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> could do it over time with micro tweaking, lock them afterwards though so they stay put
[20:04] <kbmaniac> Yep I found the lock key - sooo how do you say add a new folder to the desktop ? new has gone ...
[20:06] <HappySmileMan> Where can I get info on a package, like if I want to know what a dependency actually does
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> HappySmileMan: apt-cache search <name>
[20:24] <theresa> I have USB speakers and they do not have audio playing through them.
[20:24] <theresa> What am I missing to make them work? I can hear the test audio, but not music through amarok.
[20:25] <mefisto__> theresa: do you have the codecs installed for the filetypes you're playing in amarok?
[20:25] <theresa> mefisto__: I should. How can I check?
[20:26] <stealth-> how can I make the screen brgither in kde4?
[20:27] <theresa> !codec
[20:27] <theresa> mefisto__: The audio is playing in amarok, I just can't hear it
[20:29] <casinowarren> does anyone know how to change the appearance of the kde 4.2 interface
[20:32] <mefisto__> casinowarren: systemsettings > appearance
[20:32] <casinowarren> i'm looking to skin the interface to look like something else...I liked the way imagicos looks, and want to see what other skins are available
[20:34] <theresa> !audio
[20:34] <mefisto__> theresa: can you play those files with any other players?
[20:34] <casinowarren> mefisto__: that didn't really do what I wanted it to
[20:35] <mefisto__> casinowarren: right-click desktop, appearance settings, and click "new theme" button
[20:36] <theresa> mefisto__: No. I just tried amarok and minirok
[20:38] <casinowarren> mefisto__: that's not changing much
[20:39] <roz__> I am trying to install Kubuntu and appear to be having CD / CD ROM issues.... I would prefer to install it over the internet anyway.  Is there a minimal CD to do so?
[20:40] <Darkrift2> ok, i seem to have a problem with my syste. Every time i watch a dvd, kaffeine tells me i need to "sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh" which i do. this basically uses apt to install some packages, but why would i have to install the same package more than once? why would it let me without saying package is up to date ?
[20:40] <mefisto__> casinowarren: once you've installed new themes, select them from the dropdown menu
[20:41] <casinowarren> it only changed the level of darkness on my task bar
[20:41] <voicu> Hi, does anyone have any idea why the power applet hangs for almost a minute when switching profiles? It seems to do that when it has to enable/disable compositing
[20:42] <voicu> but enabling/disabling compositing goes a lot faster from the system settings thingy
[20:43] <roz__> is there a Minimal KUbuntu CD at all?
[20:43] <mefisto__> roz__: yes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:44] <hix> casinowarren: search repos for 'dekorator', maybe this is what you looking for
[20:44] <SandGorgon> roz__: I did a minimal kde install from ubuntu-minimal (kdelibs, kdebase, kdebase-bin, kdebase-plasma, kwin,  kdebase-workspace, kde-workspace-data, kdebase-workspace-bin, kdm, g++)
[20:45] <casinowarren> ok
[20:46] <roz__> mefisto__: how can I tell it to install KUbuntu from the Ubuntu CD?\
[20:47] <yaa__> how can i make myself a sudouser
[20:47] <Thibit> Location of kubuntu's bug reporting system?
[20:47] <mefisto__> roz__: once you have a cli environment installed, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:49] <roz__> mefisto__: i come from many years of Gentoo--- thats nothing
[20:49] <roz__> mefisto__: but you understand my preference for internet based installation
[20:52] <Thibit> Nevermind... <.<;;
[20:52] <yaa__> chukch
[20:53] <yaa__> whats up man eaters
[20:53] <yaa__> ell me how can i make myself a sudo user
[20:54] <nyad> hi. my ubuntu 8.10 rejects everything that tries to connect to it. I want to turn this off. I have disabled ufw. yet my pc still refuses to let apps connect to my machine
[20:54] <nyad> how do I stop it from rejecting everything
[20:56] <hix> yaa__: define 'become a sudo user'.. wanna work as root?
[20:57] <nyad> add yourself to sudoers file or the wheel group
[20:57] <yaa__> no. i want to make a user sudo user
[20:57] <yaa__> what i have to write in sudoers
[20:58] <theresa> mefisto__: I rebooted and I can hear the startup tone, but not my audio through any other means.
[20:59] <mefisto__> theresa: what means do you have? (other than amarok)
[21:00] <theresa> mefisto__: minirok, firefox (youtube) so far
[21:01] <nyad> http://pastebin.com/d1bb8fb32
[21:01] <yaa__> which way  can i make myself wheel group member
[21:01] <hix> User Manager
[21:02] <nyad> run kuser
[21:02] <yaa__> hix^ - by ssh
[21:02] <mefisto__> theresa: you may want to install another player to see if you can play your files. it may be missing codecs, or may be a config problem with just amarok
[21:03] <theresa> mefisto__: Just tried kaffeine. That works.
[21:03] <mefisto__> theresa: and it's playing the same files that don't play in amarok?
[21:03] <theresa> mefisto__: What codec would I be missing with amarok? What setting should I check? This also happens with firefox.
[21:03] <theresa> mefisto__: Correct.
[21:04] <hix> sudo adduser USER GROUP
[21:04] <mefisto__> theresa: it seems you have the codecs to play the files. is amarok's volume turned up?
[21:05] <mefisto__> theresa: what version amarok do you have?
[21:06] <theresa> mefisto__: volume is at 100%. It is version Installed: 2:1.4.10-0ubuntu3.1
[21:10] <mefisto__> theresa: look in amarok's settings > configure amarok > engine. is "output plugin" set to "alsa"?
[21:10] <theresa> mefisto__: autodetect
[21:11] <hix> yaa__: add yourself to 'admin' group
[21:11] <yaa__> hix -- which way&
[21:11] <hix> yaa__: sudo adduser USERNAME admin
[21:12] <theresa> mefisto__: I set it to alsa and still no audio while track is playing
[21:12] <mefisto__> theresa: try closing and restarting amarok (right-click the systray icon to shut down amarok)
[21:13] <yaa__> hix -it does not work
[21:13] <hix> yaa__: you cant add yourself of course. must be done by an already privileged user
[21:13] <theresa> mefisto__: Nope. Still no audio while track plays
[21:14] <hix> yaa__: sudo visudo     ..and add USERNAME ALL=(ALL) ALL
[21:15] <yaa__> sudo nano /etc/sudoers wil be correct&
[21:16] <hix> will work, but should be done using visudo
[21:16] <yaa__> i m afraid of vi))
[21:16] <hix> ;)
[21:17] <hix> put this line in.. hit ESC ... then SHIFT+:     ...then wq  and  ENTER
[21:17] <mefisto__> theresa: maybe amarok is sending the audio to another soundcard?    asoundconf list   will list your audio hardware devices.    asoundconf set-default-card <name-of-soundcard-from-list>  to set the default
[21:20] <theresa> mefisto__: I restarted amarok and got 'xine was unable to initialize any drivers'
[21:20] <theresa> mefisto__: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[21:20] <mefisto__> theresa: you got that message after changing what?
[21:21] <theresa> mefisto__: sound card
[21:21] <hix>  yaa__: but i think this command uses nano anyway
[21:21] <yaa__> hix thanx it works )
[21:21] <hix> yaa__: great ;)
[21:21] <yaa__> we did it)
[21:22] <theresa> mefisto__: I have 2 items listed; 'ICH6' and 'default'
[21:23] <mefisto__> theresa: listed where? asoundconf lists those?
[21:24] <theresa> mefisto__: Yes
[21:26] <mefisto__> theresa: which one set as default give you the xine error?
[21:28] <theresa> mefisto__: Don't recall. Let me check
[21:28] <theresa> mefisto__: default
[21:31] <theresa> mefisto__: I set it back to the ICH6 and amarok plays the track, but I'm not getting audio as that's not the USB speakers
[21:33] <baptiste_> bonsoir
[21:34] <theresa> mefisto__: I'm going to reboot. BRB.
[21:34] <baptiste_> vous parlez francais icic ?
[21:34] <baptiste_> vous parlez francais ici ?
[21:34] <mefisto__> !fr | baptiste_
[21:34] <jamesjedimaster> !fr | baptiste_
[21:34] <baptiste_> thank's
[21:35] <LaNdi> ca u bo
[21:42] <yaa__> how can i make userX paths equal to root's
[21:42] <theresa> mefisto__: Rebooted and nothing.
[21:45] <astrobear> http://dpaste.com/17400/ :: oh boy
[21:45] <astrobear> please help if you can
[21:45] <astrobear> i did chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers but it still gives me that msg
[21:46] <theresa> astrobear: chmod it back and use 'sudo /etc/sudoers'
[21:46] <astrobear> chmod it back to 0777?
[21:47] <theresa> Never chmod a file that important to 777.
[21:47] <astrobear> it was only temporary
[21:47] <theresa> OK
[21:47] <theresa> What are you trying to do?
[21:47] <astrobear> just enough to edit it's contents
[21:48] <astrobear> use the NOPASSWD for /usr/bin
[21:48] <theresa> 'sudo nano /etc/sudoers' doesn't work?
[21:48] <astrobear> theresa: http://dpaste.com/17403/
[21:49] <astrobear> heath@kb1:~$ sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[21:49] <astrobear> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[21:50] <theresa> astrobear: 'sudo chmod 440 /etc/sudoers'
[21:50] <Ar3Ch3r> Hey, i am new to ubuntu. I need some help installing a .tar.bz2 file can someone pm me or help me?
[21:50] <astrobear> heath@kb1:~$ sudo chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[21:50] <astrobear> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[21:50] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: what's the problem?
[21:50] <Ar3Ch3r> I have never installed a program before on linux, and i downloaded xchat
[21:51] <Ar3Ch3r> To use irc on my fresh install of ubuntu
[21:51] <astrobear> from the command line, tar -xvjf file.tar.bz2
[21:51] <mefisto__> astrobear: can you log in with recovery mode from grub to do the chmod ?
[21:51] <astrobear> but you should just do "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[21:51] <Ar3Ch3r> If you tell me how to get to the command line im sure i could follow you
[21:51] <Ar3Ch3r> i forgot what it was called
[21:51] <astrobear> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:51] <Ar3Ch3r> ubuntu
[21:52] <theresa> mefisto__: What would make amarok and minirok play through the wrong card while kaffeine doens't have that issue?
[21:53] <astrobear> hold down alt and press the f2 button to bring a command prompt, type 'xterm' and then type "sudo apt-get install xchat" and then just type 'xchat' to launch the program
[21:53] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: and if you need more help with ubuntu, ask #ubuntu
[21:53] <astrobear> :)
[21:53] <Ar3Ch3r> ok thanks. im trying that now! :)
[21:53] <mefisto__> theresa: I don't know. you could try asking in #amarok, but be sure to let them know you're not using amarok 2
[21:54] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r:  and xchat should be in the internet menu
[21:54] <astrobear> ..after installing
[21:54] <astrobear> mefisto__: i would have to boot into live cd
[21:54] <Ar3Ch3r> ok thanks!
[21:55] <astrobear> mefisto__: guess i will do that when kde gets through compiling
[21:56] <Ar3Ch3r> sorry one more question, astrobear, that command you gave me, is it downloading a new file? its working but just curious. or is it using the one i already downlaoded
[21:57] <yaa__> good night everybody
[21:58] <astrobear> it's downloading a new file and doing the installing for you. you can delete your previous file and if you want to remove xchat, you can do "sudo apt-get remove xchat" from the command line. also there's a terminal icon in your 'accessories' menu if you want to get to a terminal without having to use my memorized shortcuts
[21:58] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r ^
[21:58] <astrobear> gn yaa__
[21:58] <Ar3Ch3r> wow , i like linux :)
[21:58] <astrobear> :)
[21:58] <astrobear> apt is ver nice
[21:58] <astrobear> very*
[21:59] <Ar3Ch3r> is there a list anywhere that gives me a list of other progs that you can type those type of commands to install... like aim or something
[22:00] <astrobear> you keep interrupting my tux math game! ;)
[22:00] <Ar3Ch3r> sorry :(
[22:00] <Dragnslcr> Ar3Ch3r- Adept
[22:00] <astrobear> type 'apt-cache search <subject>
[22:00] <theresa> mefisto__: I'm on KDE 3.5. I thought I was on 4.2. Odd
[22:00] <astrobear> Dragnslcr: he/she's on ubuntu
[22:00] <Ar3Ch3r> thanks
[22:00] <astrobear> so.. Ar3Ch3r, you can use synaptic instead
[22:01] <astrobear> synaptic or whatever visual program manager ubuntu has
[22:01] <astrobear> srsly though, ask in #ubuntu, they are helpful :)
[22:01] <astrobear> this is the kubuntu channel
[22:01] <Ar3Ch3r> kk thanks, ohh i didnt know there was a differ
[22:01] <astrobear> if you get a chance, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", you won't regret it
[22:01] <Ar3Ch3r> <--- = Noob
[22:02] <Ar3Ch3r> will do now
[22:02] <astrobear> that will install kubuntu
[22:02] <hix> .oO( ;) )
[22:02] <Ar3Ch3r> what is kubuntu?
[22:02] <hix> better GUI
[22:02] <astrobear> it's the same as ubuntu with KDE as the desktop environment
[22:02] <astrobear> yes, it looks prettier
[22:03] <Ar3Ch3r> ohhhh i saw a demo for that i think
[22:03] <astrobear> and a lot more thought (imho) has went into making it the better choice for DEs
[22:03] <theresa> Ar3Ch3r: Are you a windows or mac user?
[22:03] <Ar3Ch3r> windows
[22:03] <theresa> Then go with KDE (Kubuntu)
[22:03] <hix> .oO( sh'd i paste that to #ubuntu? )
[22:03] <astrobear> yup, kde will be better suited for you then
[22:04] <Ar3Ch3r> ok i will
[22:04] <Ar3Ch3r> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:04] <astrobear> then you can ask in here all you want for help :)
[22:05] <Ar3Ch3r> sweetness!
[22:06] <astrobear> yup, this place is sweet. there many people here a lot more knowledgeable than myself
[22:06] <mefisto__> theresa: if you're seeing kde 3.5 in the amarok or kaffeine help menus, that's because they are kde3 apps. konqueror or dolphin (both kde4 apps) help menus will probably say kde 4.2
[22:07] <theresa> mefisto__: No, they say 3.5.10 for KDE. I thought I went to 4.2 a week ago or so
[22:07] <Ar3Ch3r> ok cool, astrobear i got xchat working
[22:08] <astrobear> cool :)
[22:08] <astrobear> it's what i used my first time on linux too
[22:08] <astrobear> then i switched to irssi
[22:08] <Ar3Ch3r> well i hope i stick with it, a little confusing here at first but i notice its a lot faster.
[22:09] <Ar3Ch3r> im just using a crapbox to test this
[22:09] <Ar3Ch3r> 1 ghz
[22:09] <Ar3Ch3r> lol
[22:09] <mefisto__> theresa: do you have kubuntu hardy?
[22:09] <astrobear> and mainly now, unless X.org crashes, I use konversation
[22:09] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: that's what i use as well, how much memory do you have?
[22:09] <theresa> mefisto__: no, I'm on Ibex
[22:09] <mefisto__> theresa: then you should have kde4
[22:10] <theresa> Maybe that's the cause of this issue. How do I get kde4 installed?
[22:10] <astrobear> because i can't recommend kde 4 to you if you don't have atleast 1gb with that 1ghz processor
[22:10] <hix> kded4 --version
[22:10] <astrobear> kde 4 uses a lot of memory
[22:10] <astrobear> for good reasons though
[22:11] <Ar3Ch3r> i have about 512 mb of ram
[22:11] <Ar3Ch3r> dang
[22:11] <jirik> Hi, I have problem with my Gmail account. I have about 1800 emails in Inbox, but in KDE 4.2 in Kubuntu 8.10 Kmail is not able to download ALL e-mail. It downloads only about first 350 (the oldest). Are there any know problem?
[22:11] <theresa> What is that command again for displaying your system stats in Konversation?
[22:11] <hix> kded --version tells you version for old apps ,)
[22:11] <theresa> sysinfo, got it
[22:11] <Ar3Ch3r> isnt that the version with the cool 3d boxes and stuff? yeah i only have 512 mb.
[22:12] <theresa> mefisto__: /sysinfo says I'm on 4.2
[22:12] <Ar3Ch3r> i may do an upgrade on this since memory for this pc is so cheap now
[22:12] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: well, try kde out, see how amazing it can be and then use it when you get enough ram :)
[22:12] <astrobear> it' well worth it
[22:13] <theresa> I'm going to reboot and hope for the best.
[22:13] <astrobear> anyone know if kubuntu still has kde 3.5 available for download?
[22:13] <Ar3Ch3r> ok astrobear, got this. configuring kdm " a display manager is a program that ........"
[22:13] <Ar3Ch3r> "package configuration" in top left
[22:13] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r:  well, since you are going to be using gnome it seems, choose gdm
[22:15] <Ar3Ch3r> astrobear, theres no options, it is just in that server window a long message
[22:15] <Ar3Ch3r> then at the bottom it says <ok>
[22:15] <Ar3Ch3r> does this mean im all done?
[22:15] <Ar3Ch3r> nvm
[22:15] <astrobear> :)
[22:15] <Ar3Ch3r> hit enter. sry ahah
[22:16] <Ar3Ch3r> is there something i can click to see how much ram i have on pc?
[22:16] <hix> astrobear: theres a ppa repo for kde3
[22:17] <hix> astrobear: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kb9vqf/ubuntu intrepid main     .. then install kubuntu-desktop-kde3
[22:19] <wirianna> #allseron
[22:20] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: 'cat /proc/meminfo' from the command line
[22:20] <astrobear> i don't know how gnome does it
[22:21] <theresa> mefisto__: About KDE tells me I'm on 3.5.10. It's odd, but I know I'm on 4.2 and I guess that's all which matters.
[22:21] <mefisto__> theresa: about kde from which app?
[22:21] <theresa> Konversation, Amarok
[22:21] <astrobear> okay, this time nobody interrupt me from my tux math game! ;)
[22:22] <mefisto__> theresa: they are kde 3 apps using kde 3 libraries. try looking in konqueror or dolphin about kde
[22:22] <hix> theresa: konversation runs on 3.5 , even in 4.2
[22:23] <theresa> OK. Dolphin says 4.2.00
[22:23] <hix> theresa: type   kded --version     ...  and   kded4 --version    ...both there
[22:24] <theresa> 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0)
 Ar3Ch3r: 'cat /proc/meminfo' from the command line < --- "no such file or directory"
[22:26] <astrobear> type "free"
[22:27] <astrobear> you shouldn't get that while using ubuntu though
[22:27] <astrobear> was it typed correctly?
[22:27] <Ar3Ch3r> 384368, wow, totally need to put my mem in right. i meesssed it up
[22:27] <Ar3Ch3r> yeah i got that i typed it correctly though
[22:28] <astrobear> hmm
[22:29] <vincent__> hop !! hello !
[22:30] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: since you are using such a terribly old computer like i am, i can recommend a few games for you, type this to get them: sudo apt-get install openarena teeworlds wesnoth frozen-bubble
[22:30] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: also... sudo apt-get install inkscape gimp blender
[22:30] <astrobear> ^ for graphic design and animation
[22:31] <astrobear> the amarok music player is great
[22:31] <Ar3Ch3r> idk if my comp will support that ... not much memory
[22:31] <astrobear> and if you just want to browse from the cli, type "apt-cache search games" or essentially anything you think you might like
[22:32] <Ar3Ch3r> gimp blender lol
[22:32] <astrobear> these games can be played on the most minimum machines
[22:32] <baptiste_> bonsoir
[22:33] <astrobear> for open arena though, you will need to take the graphics down a little, but it's still playable and i still prefer it like that when i'm playing
[22:33] <baptiste_> je suis perdu, on peut m'aider ?
[22:33] <astrobear> baptiste_: french?
[22:33] <hix> astrobear: blender on old machines is no fun to work *g
[22:33] <astrobear> hix: this is true, but i'm just showing off a few gui apps
[22:33] <baptiste_> yes franche astrobear
[22:34] <astrobear> baptiste_: then join #ubuntu-fr
[22:34] <baptiste_> erf, french
[22:34] <baptiste_> thank's
[22:34] <astrobear> your welcome, good luck
[22:37] <Ar3Ch3r> astrobear, what would catigory or "section" would i look under for stuff like xfire and aim in synaptic package manager
[22:37] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: for ubuntu, use pidgin
[22:37] <astrobear> kde users like kopete
[22:38] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: some more apps to look @: AUDIO) audacity, rosegarden, ardour, hydrogen, VIDEO) mplayer or vlc
[22:38] <Ar3Ch3r> kk
[22:39] <astrobear> apt-cache search <program> to get a description of what the program do, e.g.: apt-cache search audacity
[22:40] <mefisto__> apt-cache show <program> will give you details on the package
[22:41] <astrobear> also for games, Ar3Ch3r, sudo apt-get install smc
[22:41] <astrobear> super maryo worlds
[22:42] <astrobear> chronicles*
[22:42] <Ar3Ch3r> astrobear thaere is a search box im using instead of typing it in the command promt, in synaptic
[22:42] <astrobear> i keep thinking of games because it's about all i can do right now until the kde dev packages are through compiling :P
[22:43] <astrobear> ah, glad you found it.
[22:43] <Ar3Ch3r> lol
[22:44] <Ar3Ch3r> hmmm i cant find smc in the search box
[22:44] <Ar3Ch3r> :(
[22:44] <astrobear> when is kubuntu switching to koffice?
[22:44] <astrobear> search for super maryo
[22:44] <astrobear> koffice2*
[22:44] <beatzz> wow
[22:44] <beatzz> how awsome is this
[22:45] <astrobear> ?
[22:45] <beatzz> Ubunutu irc? and even a #kubuntu channel by default!?
[22:45] <astrobear> :)
[22:45] <beatzz> this rocks
[22:45] <beatzz> sup everyone :D
[22:45] <astrobear> hehe, chillin like a villian yo
[22:45] <beatzz> can i get authed ;) ??
[22:45] <astrobear> are you not registered?
[22:46] <beatzz> nothin just been workin on CompTIA Linux+ latly
[22:46] <beatzz> no first time i used this irc client on this laptop.
[22:46] <astrobear> /msg nickserv help register
[22:47] <beatzz> thanks :)
[22:48] <Ar3Ch3r> ok, illl be back u around a lot astrobear?
[22:48] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: always
[22:49] <Ar3Ch3r> kk cya aroudn
[22:50] <beatzz> peace Ar3Ch3r
[22:50] <vtrt> Hi!
[22:50] <beatzz> sup
[22:50] <astrobear> this google voice application is sweet
[22:50] <beatzz> havent tryed it
[22:50] <vtrt> I have problem i can't update amarok to version newer than 1.4
[22:51] <astrobear> i finally have sms messages with their service and that makes me happy
[22:51] <beatzz> aircrack-ng > * :P
[22:51] <beatzz> can u post error?
[22:51] <vtrt> there is no error it just doesn't seem to see newer ver
[22:52] <astrobear> amarok-kde4
[22:52] <astrobear> i think that's the package for amarok2
[22:52] <astrobear> apt-cache search amarok
[22:52] <astrobear> see what there is
[22:53] <vtrt> wait i'll try amarok-kde4 because it wasn't written on the howto on kubuntu web
[22:54] <robertss> Which packages will I need to get a winmodem working?
[22:54] <beatzz> sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[22:54] <vtrt> it worked but now i can't run it xD
[22:54] <vtrt> k works xD
[22:54] <beatzz> ;)
[22:55] <beatzz> robertss: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/WinModems_and_Linux
[22:55] <vtrt> thank you very much xD
[22:56] <vtrt> cya
[22:56] <beatzz> peace vtrt
[22:56] <robertss> Thanks beatzz
[22:57] <beatzz> robertss: np :)
[22:58] <beatzz> robertss: btw that was the first link google gave me when i searched "patches to get winmodem working"
[22:59] <astrobear> Ar3Ch3r: if you want to play mp3 files, you'll need to install ubuntu-restricted-extras package and kubuntu-restricted-packages if you are on kde, though with only 512mb ram for your 1ghz machine, i'd stick with gnome
[23:00] <astrobear> ack that wasn't clear
[23:00] <robertss> beatzz: Me too but the link didn't work. I just tried it again and its back up
[23:00] <astrobear> ubuntu-restricted-packages for ubuntu and kubuntu-restricted-packages for kubuntu
[23:07] <beatzz> soo.
[23:24] <sakura> hi, i installed kde-nightly and now in the session i dont have the bar that is at the bottom
[23:24] <sakura> how can i runt that pprocess ?
[23:27] <beatzz> you mean your Panel?
[23:28] <beatzz> sakura: you mean your Panel? with your Kmenu and clock?
[23:28] <sakura> yes beatzz
[23:29] <beatzz> sakura: give me a sec im gettin it for ya
[23:29] <mefisto__> plasma
[23:30] <sakura> thanks
[23:30] <beatzz> sakura: Alt+F1
[23:31] <beatzz> System Settings
[23:31] <beatzz> sakura: Alt+F1 > System Settings
[23:31] <sakura> beatzz, i runned plasma and the desktop is back :)
[23:31] <sakura> but i think is the kde4.1, not kde4.2
[23:31] <beatzz> sakura: plasma as in a terminal? 'plasma'?
[23:32] <sakura> yes beatzz
[23:32] <sakura> in a terminal
[23:32] <beatzz> what dose that do?
[23:32] <sakura> i dont know
[23:32] <sakura> but the desktop comes
[23:32] <sakura> and the bar
[23:32] <beatzz> refresh the desktop?
[23:32] <sakura> maybe
[23:33] <beatzz> hmm i get nothing when i enter 'plasma' into a terminal
[23:33] <beatzz> and nothing from 'sudo apt-get install plasma'
[23:34] <mefisto__> beatzz: yours is already running. you can kill it with "killall plasma" then start it again
[23:36] <sakura> how can i remove kde completly f?
[23:36] <beatzz> sudo rm -9 /*
[23:36] <beatzz> jk
[23:37] <beatzz> i dont know that one
[23:37] <sakura> beatzz, i only want to remove kde :)
[23:37] <mefisto__> sakura: what version? intrepid?
[23:37] <sakura> not all my hardrive
[23:37] <sakura> yes mefisto__
[23:37] <mefisto__> sakura: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[23:38] <sakura> thanks mefisto__