[00:00] a [00:00] Nothing significant that I've seen [00:00] Occassional rendering bugs, but that may be video drivers [00:00] KDE seems to be self-destructing in front of my eyes though too. [00:00] sometimes the entire interface just crashes. [00:01] stupid question, but when downloading usng ktorrent - If you add multiple trackers, shouldn't the seeders and leechers of all the trackers get merged? [00:01] and everytime it does the graphics problems just seem to worsen [00:02] I really like KDE better than gnome these days but its just these quirkly little things that build up to something quite annoying. [00:03] so Dragnslcr you suggest I would have better luck just upgrading to KDE 4.2? [00:05] I don't want to have to kill xorg everytime I want the icons to be redrawn. === Guest18892 is now known as [GuS] [00:12] GentooJohnny- yeah, I highly recommend 4.2 === john is now known as Guest54945 [00:26] hello [00:26] anyone out there? i'm not sure if i'm doing this right [00:26] anyone? [00:27] IF there is anyone out there i'm trying to figure out how to use the wobbly windows and other effects in kubuntu [00:28] i have the simple thing installed and have enabled them but my stuff don't work. [00:28] am i just not doing something or being really stupid? i was able to do it ubuntu [00:32] hello! [00:32] I've a very, very big problem with my kubuntu 8.10 desktop. [00:33] today i tried to install arch, and for that i had to modify the partition table. to remove arch, because i didn't get the internet workig, i tried to find the partition manager i used in the arch-installation, and i tried "fsck"... since that, i can't access my main hard drive with my kubuntu desktop. The complete harddrive is only displayed as one big partition without a filesystem set :( [00:34] is there any way to get access to my files thet were on this hard drive or even repair the made damage? :( [00:34] help would be very nice ! :) === andrea is now known as Guest17928 [00:50] moin ! ;D [00:58] <__mikem> I have a problem. Firefox suddenly will not launch. It causes a bus error upon startup. Deleting the .mozilla dirrectory didn't work. Reinstalling firefox also didn't work. [00:58] reinstalling is windows thinking.. [00:58] run it from a terminal - look for error messages [00:58] try a new user also. seeif it crashes for them [00:59] <__mikem> dr_willis, I did. It just says bus error [00:59] <__mikem> does root count as another user? [00:59] thers some --OPTIONS for firefox also [00:59] i wouldent use root. but ya coudl try i guess [01:13] hi all [01:13] how can I upgrade my kubuntu installation to the alpha? [01:14] Is there a fix for page display through firefox, my gmail looks ugly... [01:14] is there something like the ubuntu update-manager -d? thank yoi [01:14] you [01:16] Anybody use firefox in here? [01:16] hi grenn I use it, it rocks [01:17] How did you fix the display, I just install kubuntu and my page display sucks... like when I get into gmail it looks ugly... [01:18] GMail looks good here, but there is some problem with the tabs, and in fullscreen mode sometimes it blinks, it's strange, but I use it anyway [01:18] Is there a way to monitor the GPU with the open source ATI driver? [01:18] so you had to do noting after you installed it? [01:20] greenn in the preferences I "installed" the fix for the GTK+ applications, or something similar, but it's strange anyway, at the moment I'm using ubuntu so I can't help you, I'm sorry [01:22] preferences in firefox or kubuntu [01:23] grenn: sorry, preferences in KDE, I don't remember exactly, Appearence I think === ricardo_ is now known as Fizic [01:25] ok [01:46] i just complied the compat networking stuff for ath5k but how do i set it to autoload the module? [01:46] i did really good tho up to that point [02:03] anyone talking in here or just walking through? === tatanka_ is now known as TTNKA [02:48] hi [02:49] am bueno quisiera padir un poco de ayuda [02:49] si se puede verdad o solo es algo para que este el el ubuntu y ya? [02:53] !es [02:53] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [02:53] oops === away_da is now known as devilsadvocate [03:12] Is there a way to burn an .iso to a CD that isn't K3B? K3B is a useless piece of shit. [03:12] etfb: what's wrong with k3b... [03:13] xjjk: It doesn't work. It claims to burn CDs, but fails with unspecified errors on verification. I nearly sent my laptop back for expensive repairs because of it, but it happens in any machine I put it in, with any brand of CDs. [03:13] etfb: how did you verify that it wasn't your laptop? [03:14] etfb: k3b is just a frontend to several command-line burning utilities [03:14] anyone here use amarok frequenty? mainly to listen to shoutcast streams, I need to know how to not have to press stop to get it to start a new stream eg. shoutcast [03:14] xjjk: Oh, I'm sure it's possible that every computer I use k3b in just coincidentally has hardware problems that disappear when I install Windows XP and try again. That's very likely. [03:15] xjjk: Maybe it's leprechauns. [03:16] well, if you're having problems with it, you'll most likely have problems with other recording software [03:17] have you tried k3b's GNOME counterpart? Brasero I think? === olivier is now known as falaouide [03:17] my kubuntu machine is _constantly_ emitting some noise from the speakers. its just static. but.. when music or something plays, the static gets quieter. this issue _only_ exists on kubuntu for this machine... sound works fine on my Windows and FreeBSD partition. any ideas? [03:18] k0pp: I get that when the microphone is not muted. Go into kmix and fiddle with the inputs. [03:19] k0pp: is this a laptop? do you have a mic? have you checked it's muted? [03:19] hrm, i'l go check [03:19] one sec [03:19] no its a desktop, fyi. [03:19] xjjk: k3b was very good but either ubuntu or the maintainer had dumbed it down so much that it is starting to get bab [03:19] xjjk, etfb, no, the MIC led is not on [03:20] xjjk: I just recently replaced my plextor 716a to a lite on drive and errors I was experincing with k3b are less now [03:20] infact all of the input devices are off [03:20] k0pp: Try other inputs. There are a bunch of them. [03:20] they're _all_ off :/ [03:20] cjae: is that k3b or the underlying software, though... [03:21] what the hell could be making that static [03:21] plex=$150 and lite on = $36 [03:21] k0pp: I seem to recall there was a way to make more options appear, but I can't find it... [03:21] xjjk: you can select two different cli backends in the option irrc [03:21] Hey Slartibartfast! How are the fjords? [03:21] etfb, you can right click on the tab you want for more [03:22] i have them all enabled [03:22] and they're all off ;/ [03:22] etfb: you like them ? :-) ... [03:23] k0pp: Best I can suggest is a process of elimination. Turn off all inputs and outputs, then switch them on one at a time until you get something useful... [03:23] xjjk: try gnome baker for your iso and see though but it sucks to have to put gnome crap in a kde environement but baker uses dd to copy iso to disk [03:23] etfb, i've been doing that for like 20 minutes lol. [03:23] cjae: thanks, etfb was having the k3b issues, though [03:23] k0pp: Hmmm... got me stumped then. [03:24] cjae: Baker, is it? I don't mind installing GNOME stuff if it works. [03:24] oh sorry doing to many things at once [03:25] etfb: I worked for me when k3b wouldn't I works good for isos here, but like I said all work now I replaced my drive [03:25] cjae: Me too. Installing Kubuntu on my daughter's laptop (finally found my old install CD cos I can't make a new one) and waiting for the BSG torrents to come online... [03:26] k3b used to never ever fail (edgy) but since 8.04 I it is very strange [03:26] Oh terrific. Installation failed halfway throug because THAT CD is frakked. [03:26] * cjae misses edgy [03:27] Time to go install some GNOME crap and waste another CD. Linux TCO (Total Cost of Ownership): 4 CDs this morning and counting... [03:28] etfb: no usb-stick around? may save you some troubles. i gave up using cds while ago [03:28] etfb: I don't know if you know, at least for me, that drives will appear to even when they are failing [03:29] appear to be good [03:29] that should say [03:29] does img burn work with wine? [03:29] cjae: If this one-month-old top-of-the-line Toshiba laptop's CD drive is failing already, I'll eat my hat. [03:30] I bought one of those two 1/2 years ago and it was a POS [03:30] the drive failed twice in three months and then the graphics card went [03:31] cjae: I bought an Acer that was only useful as a toboggan, but I've never had any trouble with Toshibas. [03:31] It was a toshiba with matshitu or whatever it called multidisc drive I think the lappy was called a Qosmio [03:31] lol [03:32] cjae: Well - apart from the video drivers being too new for Intrepid to handle, although Hardy managed OK once I found the right binary. [03:32] my girlfriend at the time left me and that is the only thing she wanted to take so I gladly let here take it [03:32] cjae: Would have been nicer to give her a venereal disease, from the sound of it... [03:33] you have no idea [03:33] the new g/f is way better, actually not even a comparison [03:33] * etfb cherishes his ignorance in the matter of cjae's girlfriends [03:33] :) [03:34] Right... let's see if Baker is any better than the braindead k3b... [03:35] toshiba = $3700 CAD at the time :( [03:37] I also bought my mother a dvd recorder toshiba, that had both vhs and dvd and hdmi, it only plays dvd-r's and the eject sometimes doesn't work without a hard reboot [03:37] some divx xvid will not play, ever [03:38] toshiba dvd player = $361 and no firmware updates to boot [03:38] both from best buy [03:39] bought a $59 philps from walmart runs circles around the toshiba [03:39] Hmmm... Baker seems like typical GNOME software: no options to control it beyond what the nanny-programmer decided was good for you... and if anything goes wrong, the error messages are gibberish because GNOME programmers don't know how to handle exceptions (side effect of a C based system instead of C++). [03:39] ya [03:40] is nero linux an option? [03:40] Ive heard good things about it [03:40] cjae: I don't use proprietary software if I can avoid it. The risk is too great. [03:40] i c [03:41] i tried nero linux once ... after that the device disappeared in k3b ... :-( [03:41] never again nero on my linux [03:41] it sucks burning in cli too [03:41] well I dont like it as much [03:41] not if you know what to do ... [03:42] Hey wow! At 14.39, my time, I had approximately 2 minutes to go. Now at 14.42 I have three minutes to go. Baker uses Microsoft minutes! [03:43] At this rate, it will take approximately 2.6 times forever! [03:43] Slartibartfast: funny you should say that my friend bought a new burner and it came with nero 7 essential under windows of course, I told him not to install it if cdburnerxp worked, which it did well [03:44] so he did anyway now cdburner will not work no matter what you do to the machine [03:45] on windows i also don't use nero ... ridiculous nero 9 is more then a gig to burn some cd's and dvd's .... for iso's on windows i use imgburn [03:45] ... 4 minutes remaining... [03:46] I haven't tried it yet but see how dd is being used can you just use that from burning isos etfb [03:46] There was a bug in a version of a CD burner that used to ship regularly with older versions of Windows. If you used it in XP when it first came out (this is around 2001-2002) it would render the CD drive useless for any purpose until you reinstalled Windows. Very popular, that was. The CD software company didn't survive, as I recall... [03:47] dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/whateveryourimageis.iso [03:47] cjae: Are you sure of that syntax? I thought if = input file and of = output file. [03:48] right backwards [03:48] cjae: Cool. Worst that could have happened is an ISO file being corrupted I guess, but I'm glad I checked... [03:48] i don't think you can use dd to burn on a cd ... othewise cdrecord was never needed .. [03:48] ya im not sure [03:49] Slartibartfast: Maybe dd is like fsck and it actually has plugin modules for different situations? [03:49] Slartibartfast: So cdrecord is what dd uses under the hood, perhaps? [03:49] Still 4 minutes remaining... the suspense is killing me... [03:50] you can make an iso file from a cd with dd, but not the otherway arround ... writing on a cd asks for a special device access .. but ai am not that technical or programmer [03:50] I know dd is great for non-optical situations I use it quite often, but don't know if would work for this [03:51] cdrecord was a long time the only way to write things to a cd [03:51] etfb: cant you see how gnome is using dd in the show output or whatever [03:51] Ah - doesn't work, but does. [03:51] or is it braseo that shows that [03:52] Hello [03:52] cjae: Nope, just some gibberish. Noticed that they get their UTF encoding wrong so part of the output is even gibberisher than the rest... [03:53] Woohoo! 3 minutes remaining! May get this done before the heat death of the universe! [03:54] So does GNOME software look less pig-ugly if you use a GNOME window manager? I can't get over how awful it looks under KDE. [03:54] Not really, GNOME will always look bad [03:55] Tip for programmers: if you're going to have the option to view output from a command-line program, make the window resizable so people can read it... [03:55] i've never been able to get gnome to look as pretty as kde, even with desktop effects [03:55] wodim is a fork of cdrecord ... [03:55] Slartibartfast: There you go. Learn something new every day... [03:56] 2 minutes remaining... can you feel the excitement building? [03:56] :-) [03:56] * Slartibartfast presses F5 on eztv again :-) === nick is now known as Guest52736 [03:57] Slartibartfast: Any sign of it yet? [03:57] not yet [03:57] Slartibartfast: Frak. [03:57] hehehe :-) [04:00] Slartibartfast: I'm sure it'll turn out that Starbuck is the first of a new kind of free/open source Cylon, called an Ubulon. She'll be just like the standard Cylon except you can't get the drivers for her left leg, and her duodenum keeps crashing randomly and you have to reinstall it from source every couple of weeks. [04:00] Slartibartfast: And Adama will eventually give up and install Windows XP on her and she'll get a virus and die. Big finale! [04:00] hehehe [04:00] lol [04:01] we'll see [04:01] They should have hired me to write for them. Would have been a hit. [04:01] Tune in next week and I'll explain how Sylar really gets his powers: sudo brain-get install telekinesis... [04:01] yeah ... now they are just ... so so :-P [04:02] CD finished burning. Let's see if it validates... [04:05] etfb: btw there is an interesting article about this burning software on wikipedia -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wodim [04:09] Slartibartfast: Totally OT, but you know about "The Last Frakkin' Special", right? http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?sub=specials&clip=8 [04:09] etfb, please keep your links on topic and work safe. [04:09] Heh... WatchBot knows that "frak" is a rude word... cute. What If I said "Felgercarb"... [04:10] Woohoo! CD tests out OK! It worked! [04:11] * etfb will only use command-line ISO burning in future. Life is too short to put up with poorly-maintained rubbish like K3B. [04:19] these college games are killing me [04:21] anyone know how to make the system beep with konversation 1.1 [04:21] on a message with my nick in it? [04:23] * devilsadvocate cant wait for the last BSG episode. its going to be epic [04:27] cjae: theres a notify->highlight (or similar) checkbox to play sounds [04:28] hix can you test me? [04:29] cjae, test u [04:29] nothing [04:30] test me plz [04:30] hi hix [04:30] hrm, nothing ,) [04:31] what is enable system bell on icoming acsii bel [04:31] I am a sever irc noob [04:32] its an ascii control code [04:32] and speller by the looks of it [04:32] Is there a visualization program for linux? [04:33] vbox vmware [04:33] thanx [04:33] KiLL13013N0W, visualization? [04:33] np [04:33] yes [04:33] as in music > fun graphics? [04:33] virtualize visualize... who cares, lol [04:34] opps sorry read wrong [04:34] lol [04:34] KiLL13013N0W, ^ [04:35] Anyone here know about initramfs in ubuntu? [04:36] hix can you try now [04:36] cjae .. trying [04:36] nothing [04:38] cjae: i have no entry for Konversation in system-sounds in kde, i use kde 4.2.1 and Konversation still is 3.5.10... that may cause it [04:38] one more time pls [04:38] cjae: 1more [04:40] that is the exact some I am using [04:40] same [04:41] BSG arrived [04:42] hix, you beat me to it. Woo! [04:43] the final will be 3 hours splitted in 2 parts, i think ;) [04:45] hix: Nope, two hours in one go, but three or more on the DVD. [04:46] so this is _the_ final now? [04:47] i want to open .rar file in Kubuntu [04:47] i cant open it. . its giving an error.. do i need an extra softawre for that [04:48] husayn: sudo apt-get install unrar [04:49] cjae: what are you doing [04:49] well that doesn't work [04:49] cjae: test [04:49] i#ll try also [04:50] i#II [04:50] Enter a string pattern here. Any message received that matches this pattern, anywhere in the message, will activate the highlighting for the message [04:51] [04:51] If you wish, Konversation will play a sound when the pattern is matched [04:51] ummm [04:51] if I left the field as new it was beeping from #ubuntu everytime someone said new [04:52] very strange [04:53] but putting it as cjae does not work [04:53] not even the soundtest-button works here [04:53] mine does [04:55] its very annoying when you ask something and have to stay by the box [04:55] how to open .swf file in kubuntu [04:56] husayn: install flash plugin and open in browser or install adobe flash standalone flash player for linux from their website [04:58] husayn: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/10/flash_player_10_linux_dev.tar.gz [04:59] thanks [04:59] is that the standalone player ? [04:59] yes === booboonooch is now known as n3tfury [05:02] how to change password of user in Kubuntu hardy [05:04] husayn: passwd (as this user) or sudo passwd username [05:05] thanks [05:05] yw [05:08] is there a sudo command to install flash player standalone [05:10] theres no nedd to install (as far as i can remember) , the binary lies there ready to use. just put it somewhere, /usr/bin or wherever u find it and call it from there === BOZG is now known as BOZG[Away] [05:36] can someone help me get my kmail to accept my gpg keys? I keep getting bad passphrase (without a prompt to enter the passphrase):( [05:47] my external devices are not able to ping me.. i think .... iptables has blocked it [05:47] is it right ? [05:47] hello i need help can anyone me for a few questions pls? [05:53] how to configure tftpd on kubuntu [06:10] Help! My computer's counts one human second as four! [06:11] Halp? :/ [06:31] how to configure tftpd on kubuntu [06:32] anyone know how well terminator works in KDE? [06:44] Question about dhcdbd on Ubuntu 8.04.2. (I'm not receiving an answer on #ubuntu, so thought to ask here) Which object is /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket linked to? What type of link is it? See pastebin for details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/134656/ [06:46] Thi: it's not a link, it's a socket [06:46] Sorry. I've only recently started to pull away from the GUI... [06:46] it's how some applications communicate with/through the system message bus [06:47] it's for inter-process-communication [06:47] kk makes sense [06:47] it should be there when dbus starts probably [06:49] you can try "/etc/init.d/dbus status" to see if dbus is running, and "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" to start it if it's not [06:49] agreed. I found the directory /var/run/dbus/ to not exist when I was looking into if it was really there. I have a feeling that it's suppost to be recreated upon each boot somewhere. Shall have to google this... [06:49] kk, am doing [06:51] hrm, it wasn't running. Upon the starting of it, I was than able to reconfigure dhcdbd without the error pulling up [06:54] it should auto-start on boot [06:54] agreed [06:54] am looking at the rcX directories right now for information on this [06:54] it's /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus here [06:55] though it seems it's not started in a single-user/recovery session [06:56] i want to make a tftp server in kubuntu [06:56] how to make it [06:56] odd. it's not listed. S24dhcdbd is though [06:59] husayn: probably by installing one of tftpd-hpa, atftpd or tftpd [06:59] i have installed tftp , and then in Konsole i type tftp and then i dont know its commands [06:59] it's listed under rc3.d->rc5.d though [06:59] is there any gui program for that [07:00] Thi: something mush have happened to the link then, try recreating it "sudo ln -s ../init.d/dbus /etc/rc2.d/S12dbus" [07:01] ty, i cp'd it, but this is a better idea. [07:02] husayn: I don't know, tftp isn't used much. but the commands should be similar to ftp [07:02] restarting [07:05] working now [07:05] ty! [07:05] np :) [07:06] I changed my hostname and it got removed somehow... [07:06] was unable to recreate just now for some reason [07:19] I did, however, find an interesting error. Amarok 1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3.2 errors upon loading when the hostname is ² [07:25] jingo.ix.us.dal.net [07:32] hi [07:32] i use kubuntu hardy with kde 3 [07:32] when i wake up my pc from supend to ram, i have no sound [07:32] how could i fix this? === ubuntu__ is now known as JonathanWeber2 [07:54] can I have an extra hard drive mount on startup? I like to keep all my media on a seperate drive but finding it diffult to add my collection to amarok [07:55] beardbar: fstab should do it [07:55] i mean you add the hard drive to fstab and should be mounted at startup [07:55] ok - ya i think i found a tutorial, the ubuntu forums are down for me right now [07:56] same for me [07:56] anyway it's just about adding one line === Roozbeh|Away is now known as RoozbehOnline [07:58] think i found it, I had to mount but my extra hd disks first, i did that through dolphin, but doesnt tell me how to see what drive numbers are so I can add em to my /etc/fstab [07:59] cerecitas: do you know a way to view all hd details. [07:59] second i will find the command... [07:59] i am a disaster to remember but got them allgathered [07:59] sudo fdisk -l [07:59] in a terminal [08:00] will give you all the outputs [08:00] thanks got it [08:00] np [08:02] now does someone exactly which updates need to be enabled on third party software to get amarok2 installed? i already added the repository but it does not want to come :D [08:02] exactly know* [08:02] beardbar: in fstab you point to a partition by it's UUID number ... you can find that to do as sudo vol_id /dev/partition [08:04] cerecitas: i think you can get amarok2 to add a ppa repository [08:04] i added the repository already, the one it says but i do not seem to be able to find amarok2 anywhere [08:04] so i guessed i should do something else on 3rd party software [08:05] http://www.kubuntu.org/amarok2-beta2 [08:07] or more recent posting : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0.1.1 [08:07] let me see the second because the first i already did [08:08] cerecitas: they are the same instructions [08:08] i will check if i enabled the recommended updates [08:09] cerecitas: install with sudo apt-get install amarok2 ... i think is the right comamnd === ubuntu__ is now known as JonathanWeber1 [08:09] command [08:09] cerecitas: i just see it's called amarok-kde4 [08:10] aha ok sec [08:10] anyone awake? [08:10] few of us TKorvus :p [08:10] I've just completed an install [08:10] oh Slartibartfast thanks it isinstalled [08:11] i have an old kubuntu distribution and wanted to do a dist-upgrade from a cd. In sources.list I dont have a cdrom entry so i tries the following command: apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add i get errors on that [08:11] OK [08:11] i've got some white dots on the left side of my screen. [08:11] black screen i should say [08:11] seems to be froze [08:12] would kubuntu set an incorrect resolution during an install? [08:12] uname -r gives me 2.6.17-12-generic [08:12] !upgrade [08:12] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [08:14] did you all fall asleep or something? [08:14] Does anybody know a rnice looking chess program ? [08:14] nice :-) [08:14] probably we are just not awake yet TKorvus... [08:15] am i on the right track with my problem? [08:15] or has someone else experienced this? [08:15] I think you are in the right place but i have not really get it... you just did a fresh install and right now you have dots in the screen? [08:15] sorry still with my 1st coffee [08:16] correct [08:16] i had a graphics card in at first. dots were in middle of screen [08:16] i removed the graphics card and now they're on the left [08:16] but you have desktop right? [08:16] no [08:17] black screen with the dots in the middle on the left. [08:17] which graphic card you are using? [08:17] mx440 [08:17] i'm using onboard video right now. [08:17] hmm i am not any good with this.. maybe the guys around here could help better [08:18] do you know how I can change the resolution? [08:18] hmmm not really... x and i hate each other so i don't mess too much there [08:19] do you have access to ubuntu forums? keeps giving me a database error. [08:19] seems to be down at the moment [08:20] ok === ROSHA is now known as RoozbehOnline [08:20] suppose i'll pole the chan again when more people are awake. [08:20] not my fault i work second :) [08:24] ... What are Widgets? There is the button on a desktop (or whatever it is) saying Add widgets or something [08:30] when i try apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom/ add to make a distupgrade it fails at the allocation of the Packages file which is actually there. any ideas y it doesn work? [08:30] #gentoo [08:34] Strog_: maybe, and i am not sure about this, you can manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the cd rom you have, commenting all the rest of the line [08:34] *lines [08:34] cerecitas: true but i dont know what to enter exactly [08:35] hmmm do you want to upgrade to intrepid? [08:35] i can check the name of it on my sources [08:36] cerecitas:i yesterday downloaded the iso of kubuntu so im not sure if it is [08:37] hmmm we would need to know at least if it is intrepid or jaunty... [08:37] Strog_: alternate iso or desktop iso? [08:37] desktop iso [08:37] besides this change you can undo it so it won't harm... should be easy to get back to what you have [08:38] its about commenting and uncommenting [08:38] ok [08:38] let me see [08:38] desktop iso can't be used for upgrades, it can only be used for new installs [08:38] so alternate can be used for upgrades? [08:38] anyway Strog_ why not try a simple dist-upgrade from the repos? [08:38] Strog_: correct [08:39] ok ill try that get back to you [08:40] Strog_: all you'll need to do is "sudo apt-cdrom add /dev/cdrom" with the alternate disk in your cd drive and you'll be good to go, I think. [08:41] dwidmann: true but dont u need to add the "add"?? [08:42] I think that part is required actually, maybe not, try it and see :) [08:42] ok [08:47] hello [08:51] eddy: hi [08:51] German? [08:52] !de [08:52] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [08:53]