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Andre_Gondimwhen i reported some bug, may I change in launchpad the release nominate? or it's only the sponsor can do this?03:39
Andre_Gondimwhen i report some bug, may I change in launchpad the release nominate? or it's only the sponsor that has to do this?03:40
wgrantAndre_Gondim: I don't understand what you're asking. Can you rephrase it?03:43
Andre_Gondimwgrant, at this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/344426 I changed the release nominate. May I could do this or only the sponsor that has to do this?03:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 344426 in gwibber "gwibber crashed with NoKeyringDaemonError in get_data()" [Undecided,New]03:46
Ursinhawgrant: he set the +nominate03:47
wgrantAndre_Gondim: The release manager (driver) of the series has to approve/decline that.03:54
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savvashttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/someproject/+createfaq <- the keywords are separated with spaces or with commas?08:41
wgrantsavvas: It strips out commas, so I presume it uses spaces natively.08:43
savvasthanks :)08:43
savvasit should be mentioned however :P08:43
wgrantIt should. You could file a bug.08:44
savvasI will :)08:44
savvasbug 34624708:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 346247 in launchpad "+createfaq keywords should mention the delimiter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34624708:55
* wgrant retargets it.08:55
savvasthere's a launchpad-answers project? sorry :\08:56
wgrantlaunchpad is sort of the gateway project, where you can file bugs and somebody will eventually redirect them to the right project.08:58
wgrantSince it's often hard to work out which bugs belong to which team.08:58
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kblinmorning folks10:12
kblinah, there it is.. even before asking the question. thanks.10:16
wgrantI like questions like that.10:18
ronnygmb: sup?10:18
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kwahhi, everyone...13:16
kwahwe try to reclaim ID for the LoCo team, but got no answer so far13:17
kwahhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6431313:17
kwahare there other ways we can contact LP admins (I believe they are ones we need to reach with this Quest)13:18
cody-somervillekwah, an admin is assigned to it13:20
wgrantSaid admin tends to be very busy, and it has only been a couple of working days.13:21
kwahcody-somerville, thanks13:22
kwahwgrant, I understand, but there is no indication what so ever how much such a request may take13:22
kwahand we are currently in the reorganization phase and aiming for the next loco council to get approved13:23
kwahdid not mean to offense anyone13:23
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gnomefreakis it possible to use security target? example debian/control <hardy-security> for PPA?14:37
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gnomefreaksorry debian changelog14:37
magciusCan the launchpad team simplify installing PPA keys easier?15:18
magciusI can't just wget | apt-key add -15:18
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LarstiQmagcius: gpg --recv-key | apt-key add -?15:26
LarstiQor well15:26
LarstiQexport inbetween15:26
magciusLarstiQ, mind explaining it a bit more in your instructions?15:27
LarstiQmagcius: the way I'd normally get a key is by asking gpg to retrieve it from the keyservers15:28
magciusAh, so I must use --keyserver.15:28
maxbThe cryptic oneliner is:15:44
maxbapt-key adv --keyserve keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key KEYID15:44
maxbOops, --keyserver15:44
magciusWait... apt-key uses PGP? I thought it used RSA15:45
LarstiQmaxb: oh hey, nice, didn't know apt-key adv15:46
maxbYour question is rather unclear. PGP is a software framework, RSA is an algorithm15:46
maxbLarstiQ: Yeah, obscure, but so useful! I've put that command into the description of the mercurial-snapshots PPA15:46
maxbFor my own PPA I made a *-keyring package. I'm not sure which I like better15:47
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thropehi - is there a dashboard type screen where I can see a list of my projects?16:57
thropeit is a bit annoying having to search for them each time even when i am logged on16:57
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savvasI think the copy and rebuild actions in PPA don't work18:26
savvasI copied luckybackup from https://launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/ppa to https://launchpad.net/~luckybackup-maintainers/+archive/ppa - it didn't rebuild the .deb source: http://ppa.launchpad.net/luckybackup-maintainers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/luckybackup/18:28
savvas* I copied and asked to rebuild from copied source18:29
savvasI think it's because I copied them before, I'll delete the packages and try again in 15-30 minutes18:31
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aantnhello19:19
aantnis it possible to change a project's url19:19
aantnI want to change https://launchpad.net/gnome-doc-centric-playground to https://launchpad.net/gnome-zeitgeist19:20
aantnare there any launchpad admins in here? :(19:27
jpdsaantn: Please file the request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion19:31
aantnjpds: thanks!19:31
jpdsaantn: And an admin will get round to you when they have time.19:32
aantnjpds: ok19:32
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hanskahello people20:37
hanskaI'm working on an interface to the LP API20:37
* intellectronica is curious20:37
intellectronicahanska: tell us more :)20:37
hanskais there any way to have info from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue ? I'm missing it from the docs!20:38
intellectronicahanska: i don't think so20:39
intellectronicahanska: please file a bug on soyuz so that this can be considered for scheduling20:40
hanskaintellectronica: I will do, thank you.20:48
hanska(d'oh. I started launchpad-sharp just to programmatically watch Debian and Jaunty's NEW... I succeeded with Debian's, but now... :P)20:48
hanskaintellectronica: https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/346491 , thank you :)... how come you were so interested on API implementation? :P20:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 346491 in soyuz "Provide NEW via the API" [Undecided,New]20:52
hanskaahah, funny :), I didn't know about ubottu :P20:53
intellectronicahanska: i do a lot of the work on the bugs portion of the api20:53
intellectronicaalso in general we're interested in how people use the api20:54
hanskaah, great20:54
hanskaintellectronica: well, I started a little project to watch the NEW queue in Debian (I'm a Debian maintainer/DD in the next few months I hope), then I decided to give it the ability of watching Ubuntu too20:54
intellectronicaalso, so far we only have a python interface library. having a library that runs on the CLR would be awesome20:55
hanska..and I fell off LP API. It looked a bit weird (and I had some difficulties implementing it, at the beginning, because I wasn't completely understanding it)20:55
intellectronicahanska: sounds very cool20:55
hanskaI still have _lot_ to do, i.e. I can only make GET requests atm20:55
hanskabut is kinda usable, at least I can get /beta/bugs/xx :)20:55
intellectronicahanska: you should look at the launchpadlib sources. it's a great example of how you can generate the entire library from the WADL20:56
intellectronicahanska: if you have any questions about this sort of stuff, talk to leonardr. i'm sure he'll be glad to help you20:57
hanskaintellectronica: thank you, I'm going to download launchpadlib :)20:57
intellectronicahanska: i think kfogel and mrevell might be interested in hearing about this project too. you could get some publicity :)20:57
intellectronicahanska: is your project hosted on LP?20:58
hanskaintellectronica: eheh, I would like to make it some more usable first -- I just found out the api-docs _tonight_20:58
hanskaintellectronica: nope, I'm not a bzr fan :)20:58
intellectronicaah, that's a shame. where is it hosted, then?20:58
kfogelhanska: what intellectronica said20:58
kfogel:-)20:58
kfogel(re interest in API projects)20:58
hanskaintellectronica: nowhere currently, a friend is setting up a redmine on his own server for other projects, and I'll put those two projects (watch-new and launchpad-sharp) there20:59
hanskaintellectronica: too bad you don't host git too :P20:59
intellectronicahanska: watch this space ;)21:00
intellectronicawhat's redmine?21:00
Nafallolooks like some kind of trac clone to me? :-)21:01
Nafallois that about right?21:01
hanskaNafallo: right, my friend said "better than trac" :P21:01
hanskaNafallo: I don't really know it, I'm sorry21:01
hanska(it's written in Ruby, and I'm more a c#-python'er, so I'd tend to avoid it ;)21:01
Nafallowritten in ruby by the looks of it21:01
intellectronicahanska: b.t.w, not that i have anything against C#, but did you try using launchpadlib with ironpython?21:01
Nafalloheh21:01
intellectronicahanska: also, did you consider using the Launchpad bug tracker? you can use it even if you host your code elsewhere21:02
hanskaintellectronica: not really21:02
intellectronicamay i ask why?21:02
hanskaoh my wait :)21:03
hanskanot really was re ironpython21:03
intellectronicaah ok21:03
hanskaabout using the tracker.. well, LP has some good features (I'm thinking at moving bash-completion tracking there), but seems like redmine can directly mangle bugs from commit logs21:03
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peciskanyone here? What is difference between 'Display name' and 'Title' in project registration form?21:04
Nafallohehe. someone put intellectronica in powersave mode! ;-)21:04
hanskaintellectronica: apart from splitting code hosting and bug tracking (I'd do that for bash-completion nevertheless, since Debian's Alioth ReallySucks®), that would be a nice thing I'd miss in LP21:04
cody-somervillehanska, It wouldn't be too difficult to do that with launchpad and bazaar plugins21:04
hanskaNafallo: throttle him down!21:04
hanskacody-somerville: uhm?21:04
cody-somervilleclosing of bugs from bzr commits21:05
hanskacody-somerville: yes, but you're missing I'm already hosting it in git21:06
intellectronicapecisk: display name: "Foobarizer", title: "An free, object-oriented, optimizing foobarizer for Linux"21:07
peciskok, got it21:07
peciskthanks ;)21:07
hanskaintellectronica: whoa, I was missing yet another foobarizer!21:07
hanska$ foobarize intellectronica21:07
LarstiQhanska, Nafallo: redmine gets the dvcs model better than trac does21:07
hanskaLarstiQ: seems like you know it -- in what ways?21:08
intellectronicathis time we're going to do it right, though. it will be self-hosting foobarizer, and it will contain a complete implementation of emacs21:08
hanskaLarstiQ: also, I know a single installation can handle multiple projects (each with a wiki, a tracker, [..])21:08
LarstiQhanska: in that it actually understands more than one branch :)21:08
hanskaah, nice!21:09
LarstiQhanska: really, trac is just horrible in this regard21:09
hanskaLarstiQ: does it also make nice graphs out of this? (like gitk/gitg/github?)21:09
LarstiQhanska: I don't know (it that well)21:09
LarstiQhanska: I know gitk, and of github, but I'm not really a git person21:10
hanskaLarstiQ: I see. But "branch graphing" would be useful for other branch-supporting-VCS'es, no?21:11
LarstiQhanska: I guess, maybe.21:11
intellectronicabzr gtk has a very nice graphing interface21:12
intellectronicai hope LP will have something like that soon21:12
LarstiQhanska: I'm more a fan of offline tools, svn/cvs need something like trac because they're centralized, why would a dvcs need the same crutch?21:12
hanskaintellectronica: uh, I didn't know bzr gtk!21:13
intellectronicayeah, it's awesome, you should check it out21:13
LarstiQhanska: so, gitk or bzr viz/qlog, or the mercurial equivalents21:13
hanskaLarstiQ: s/gitk/gitg/, far better IMVHO21:13
LarstiQhanska: is that a gtk rework instead of tk?21:15
hanskaLarstiQ: exactly.21:15
LarstiQhanska: ah, I see how that can be far better :)21:16
hanskaeheh :P21:16
LarstiQhanska: honestly, it's a mystery to me why tk was used in the first place?21:17
hanskaLarstiQ: who knows, some nostalgic?21:17
* hanska runs away21:18
LarstiQhanska: heh, maybe :)21:18
mneptokfor what? bad 60s acid trips?21:18
ronnytk is weird, but it seems it was fairly easy to add21:30
ronnyunfortunately it still is like 70es today21:30
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cocooncrashHi, I have some questions about shared and stacked repositories in Launchpad.22:30
cocooncrashDoes anyone know how Launchpad uses these?22:30
LarstiQcocooncrash: afaik, Launchpad doesn't use shared repositories, and it (can/does) stack on the branch associated with the development focus22:31
cocooncrashLarstiQ: Does stacking require that you use a repo format which supports it?22:32
LarstiQcocooncrash: certainly on the Launchpad side, I don't know about the client.22:32
cocooncrashLarstiQ: That's what I'm trying to find out ;-)22:33
cocooncrashThanks though22:33
LarstiQshouldn't be hard to test though?22:33
cocooncrashLarstiQ: I do see messages about stacking, but how do I know if it's actually been done?22:34
wgrantcocooncrash: You can check the branch page on Launchpad - if it is a stacked branch, it will say 'Stacked on: lp:~path/to/branch'22:35
cocooncrashwgrant: Cool, thanks22:36
cocooncrashwgrant: Do you know if LP uses shared repos?22:36
wgrantcocooncrash: It requires that the stacked branch has at least format 1.6. It will try to convert automatically if it's incompatible.22:36
wgrantIt doesn't.22:36
cocooncrashOkay22:36
wgrantBut you don't really need those once you have stacking.22:36
cocooncrashYeah, true22:36
cocooncrashThanks wgrant22:37
wgrantnp22:37
jmlhad cocooncrash stuck around, I would have told him that bzr.dev has recently fixed one misreporting of stacking.22:40
tumbleweedjml: I'll tell him - I came to see the result of his questions22:43
jmltumbleweed: thanks.22:43
cocooncrashjml: How exactly does it misreport?22:43
cocooncrashDoes it say that it's stacking but actually doesn't?22:43
jmlcocooncrash: bzr says "using default stacking branch" and then doesn't stack.22:43
cocooncrashRight22:43
tumbleweedok, yes I've seen that22:44
jmlcocooncrash: let me find the bug for you...22:44
tumbleweedbtw, has anyone else been having difficulty pushing to lp from jaunty bzr?22:44
tumbleweedit just hangs for me unless I use sftp22:44
LarstiQtumbleweed: which version is that?22:44
tumbleweedbug appeared in the last few days22:45
tumbleweed1.13~rc122:45
tumbleweedhangs during traversing tree22:45
tumbleweedI can't find any relevent bugs on lp - but it has to have hit other people too22:46
LarstiQtumbleweed: lots of small requets in ~/.bzr.log?22:46
tumbleweeddidn't know there was such a long22:46
tumbleweedlog22:46
* tumbleweed looks22:46
jmlbug 34516922:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 345169 in bzr "bzr push to a new lp branch of bzr from a local copy fails to stack" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34516922:46
jmlthat's the one22:46
jmlthere was also another bug that occured during 1.13rc122:47
jmlbut that was different.22:47
tumbleweedjml: ah, I saw that22:47
jmlanyway, take home message: 1.14dev is a lot more reliable.22:47
tumbleweedjml: that bug was too terse for me to see if it was what I was seeing22:47
jmltumbleweed: *nod* I reported it on IRC on #bzr and lifeless filed a developer-oriented version of the bug.22:48
jmlwhich I didn't mind at all, since the bug got fixed very very quickly :)22:48
cocooncrashjml: Do you know what the actual cause was?22:49
cocooncrashi.e. will I have to upgrade to actually get it to stack?22:49
jmlcocooncrash: yeah, you'll have to upgrade.22:49
cocooncrashBleh22:49
cocooncrashAny workarounds?22:49
jmlcocooncrash: upgrading is a good idea for a lot of other reasons though.22:49
jmlactually, one reason: speed.22:50
LarstiQjml: did it get fixed before or after 1.13 final?22:50
jmlLarstiQ: bug 345169 got discovered after 1.13 final.22:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 345169 in bzr "bzr push to a new lp branch of bzr from a local copy fails to stack" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34516922:50
jmlLarstiQ: the other stacking bug (number escapes me) got fixed in time22:50
LarstiQok22:50
jmlcocooncrash: I don't know of a workaround. #bzr might.22:51
cocooncrashjml: Okay, thanks.22:51
jmlcocooncrash: they will, however, strongly recommend you upgrade your formats :)22:51
cocooncrashjml: But that won't solve it, will it?22:51
anderskrom1v: Just tried it myself, and compiz segfaulted in the guest session.  This worked a few months ago.22:51
LarstiQwill we?22:51
jmlcocooncrash: it will, I think.22:51
jmlLarstiQ: many of you will :)22:51
cocooncrashOh, that's fine then22:51
tumbleweedjml: ah, upgraded my branch format to 1.6 and I don't hit that bug22:54
tumbleweeds/branch/repo/22:54
jmlcool.22:54
jmlmay I recommend 1.922:54
jmlit comes with a complimentary side order of love.22:54
tumbleweedhah22:54
cocooncrashjml: Do repo formats matter when pushing/pulling to other branches?22:54
tumbleweeddone22:54
jmlcocooncrash: yes.22:55
cocooncrashI've noticed that they both have to have the same rich-root support or not22:55
jmlright. rich-root has to be the same.22:55
* LarstiQ wonders how long between dput and showing up in ppa build records is usual22:55
cocooncrashjml: But otherwise?22:55
jmlapart from that, AIUI, any two formats will interoperate.22:55
cocooncrashAwesome22:55
jmlbut they'll probably perform badly.22:55
LarstiQbut, they might need to convert on the fly, depending on how different they are.22:56
jmlexactly.22:56
LarstiQah, there we go, packging went from not listed to building.22:57
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