| LjL | i know what they were after, yes | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| LjL | [00:42:54] <bruce89> I don't like to be insulted, I just want my opinions respected | 00:00 |
| bruce89 | doesn't matter | 00:00 |
| LjL | [00:43:40] <bruce89> I'm sad that Ubuntu has turned into Arch | 00:00 |
| LjL | [00:44:01] <snuxoll> bruce89: must you continue whining? | 00:00 |
| bruce89 | I don't think I'll bother with -offtopic anyway | 00:00 |
| LjL | (which really was a hint to !stop) | 00:00 |
| bruce89 | !stop | 00:00 |
| ubottu | NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken. | 00:00 |
| bruce89 | you must understand it is hardly nice to be insulted and accused like that | 00:02 |
| LjL | we're running in circles here. | 00:03 |
| LjL | if in a bunch of days you feel like you'd like to join #ubuntu-offtopic again, please give us a ping here. | 00:03 |
| bruce89 | shouldn't have thought so | 00:03 |
| LjL | bruce89: if right now you don't have any further questions for this channel, please part and come back later when you do | 00:07 |
| bruce89 | lovely | 00:07 |
| LjL | @mark #ubuntu-ops bruce89 Way too argumentative for my liking. I had noticed that during the past days in #ubuntu-offtopic, too. He'll be unbanned when he shows he'll play by the rules no matter how "upset" he may be about anything. | 00:09 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 00:09 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !LjL is has factoid | 00:16 |
| Myrtti | the cake is not a lie! | 00:28 |
| Myrtti | I haz caek. | 00:28 |
| jussi01 | There is no spoon... | 00:33 |
| jussi01 | err... cake | 00:33 |
| Flannel | LjL: cinnamon roll | 00:49 |
| LjL | Flannel: wait, what? | 00:50 |
| Flannel | LjL: in #u, you've got a cinnamon roll | 00:50 |
| LjL | oh right | 00:50 |
| LjL | yay, watchbot got its first real hit | 01:25 |
| Flannel | Apparently ops know all of the answers | 01:42 |
| LjL | Flannel: how can you get to know all the answers? | 01:43 |
| elky | LjL, watchbot? | 01:43 |
| Flannel | LjL: I don't know when Ubuntu is going to have ipod support. | 01:43 |
| LjL | elky: yeah, extension to floodbots that ended up being its own bot. you can join ##ljl and post any dodgy link to try it. | 01:43 |
| Flannel | er, iphone support, even. | 01:43 |
| elky | are you using the wikileaks watch lists? :P | 01:46 |
| bazhang | ikonia, you were referring to zenitur I am guessing | 01:46 |
| LjL | elky: nope, opendns.com... besides, how could you even *know* about the wikileaks list? i thought that was a $11000 fine for you to know about it :P | 01:46 |
| Flannel | eventy hundred dollars? | 01:50 |
| LjL | Flannel: that's what i read (not really for knowing about it, but for linking to it - or any other site blacklisted by the oz firewall) | 01:51 |
| bazhang | * [breakmyfall] (i=breakmyf@5.dollar.sucky.sucky.at.shellium.org): BreakMyFaLL okay? | 02:35 |
| LjL | bazhang: there's quite a few users from shellium lately | 02:36 |
| bazhang | LjL, ahem the bit preceding shellium I meant (since we had kavity get a vhost for much less) | 02:36 |
| LjL | bazhang: i dunno, i'm not the one to be fascist about hostnames (although i'll certainly keep a special eyes on vhosts like those) | 02:37 |
| bazhang | :0 | 02:38 |
| LjL | bazhang: it's just a hostname, in theory it's not even you deciding it. although of course it is in case of shell vhosts. | 02:39 |
| bazhang | LjL, good point | 02:39 |
| bazhang | I was agnostic on kavity tbh | 02:39 |
| bazhang | he was arguing about cursing in -ot and then we noticed it | 02:39 |
| LjL | bazhang: i won't really hide the fact that i'm not quite in agreement with some ops over extremely strict usermask policing. (such as banning "jesus", meh.) | 02:43 |
| bazhang | * [Netham46] (n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/netham45): purple trolling? | 02:43 |
| LjL | netham reminds me of something | 02:43 |
| bazhang | <Netham46> justin__: I personally avoid Linux like a plague for my web servers, they're all IIS. I moved from Linux a couple years ago, and I've had no issues since. :) | 02:43 |
| LjL | bazhang: uhm, he's been a long-time user, he doesn't "seem" like a troll from skimming the logs | 02:46 |
| LjL | or - perhaps he does seem like one. subtly though. | 02:46 |
| bazhang | he said he is rebooting, yet only left #ubuntu (ie still on freenode) | 02:48 |
| LjL | bazhang: he's got Netham45 in ##windows, too, although i wasn't on ##windows | 02:49 |
| bazhang | LjL, just the 'oh usb-creator is broken, no wonder I dont use linux, windows server is great, etc' | 02:51 |
| bazhang | seems like a load of fud to me | 02:52 |
| LjL | so cross-trolling, uhm | 02:52 |
| bazhang | still on freenode (ie not rebooted) | 02:52 |
| bazhang | shades of slayer | 02:52 |
| LjL | bazhang: i left a @mark about him. what about shades of slayer, is that some reference to shadeslayer...? | 02:54 |
| bazhang | LjL, yeah, subtle (or notso at times) trolling | 02:54 |
| bazhang | suddenly his gnome and cdrom is fixed miraculously at the last moment | 02:54 |
| bazhang | after literally days of 'it must be hal' it not mounting in kde | 02:55 |
| LjL | bazhang et al: i'm going to bed, if watchbot starts behaving very badly for any reason, just ban | 03:18 |
| Flannel | LjL: sounds good. | 03:18 |
| bazhang | LjL, okay (in #ubuntu) | 03:18 |
| ubottu | musikgoat|main called the ops in #ubuntu (Germanaz0) | 03:21 |
| elky | mr spammer is back as daemonfc again | 05:22 |
| tritium | elky: where? | 05:23 |
| elky | -ot | 05:24 |
| tritium | oh | 05:24 |
| elky | yeah, you're the smart one who steers clear of there | 05:27 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, ^^ | 05:27 |
| tonyyarusso | heh | 05:28 |
| tonyyarusso | Wth is the purpose of Watchbot? | 05:31 |
| ubottu | n2diy called the ops in #ubuntu () | 05:47 |
| tritium | taken care of | 05:48 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, rww said: !no, lfs is <reply> LFS is Linux From Scratch, a Linux distribution (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/), not to be confused with !LTS which stands for "Long Term Support". | 08:05 |
| Flannel | !lfs | 08:05 |
| ubottu | LFS is linux from scratch www.linuxfromscratch.org; not to be confused with LTS which is the long term support version of ubuntu (6.06 and 8.04) | 08:05 |
| ikonia | don't see the point of that factoid | 08:44 |
| * jussi01 waves sleepily to ikonia | 08:45 | |
| * jussi01 is somewhat hungover... | 08:45 | |
| ikonia | join the club | 08:45 |
| ikonia | I'm about to go and get my car from the gargage and pickup a new amp | 08:46 |
| ikonia | just waiting for my lift to go and pick it up | 08:46 |
| jussi01 | I should clean today... lets see how that goes. | 08:47 |
| ikonia | @bansearch BUGabundo | 08:48 |
| ubottu | No matches found for bugabundo!n=bugabund@bl6-230-81.dsl.telepac.pt in any channel | 08:48 |
| ikonia | ??? | 08:48 |
| ikonia | ahhh right so he's ban dodging | 08:49 |
| jussi01 | where? | 08:49 |
| ikonia | +1 | 08:49 |
| ikonia | I banned him last night - had a discussion with him and told him the ban would be for the weekend due to his attitude in pm | 08:49 |
| ikonia | so straight after I go go bed - he's back in on a new IP | 08:49 |
| ikonia | @mark | 08:49 |
| ubottu | (mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg | 08:49 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu+1 bugabundo ban dodging as soon as my back was turned in +1 | 08:51 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 08:51 |
| * jussi01 waves to Hobbsee!!! | 08:54 | |
| ikonia | it's Hobbsee | 08:54 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee, !! | 09:45 |
| Nafallo | Hoooooobsee | 09:48 |
| Myrtti | *burp* | 10:18 |
| Myrtti | caek | 10:18 |
| * topyli joins ikonia's club | 10:20 | |
| ikonia | my club ? | 10:21 |
| topyli | the hangover club you founded with jussi01 | 10:23 |
| ikonia | ahh | 10:23 |
| bazhang | ikonia, you were referring to zenitur in -irc? | 10:23 |
| ikonia | bazhang: yes | 10:23 |
| bazhang | ikonia, just getting the lowdown now | 10:23 |
| jussi01 | wow, I just cleaned the fridge...bleh | 10:23 |
| ikonia | nice | 10:23 |
| Myrtti | http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596780/ | 10:23 |
| Myrtti | http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596788/ | 10:24 |
| jussi01 | the cake is still a lie... | 10:24 |
| jussi01 | :P | 10:24 |
| ubottu | bazhang called the ops in #kubuntu (tarfart) | 10:31 |
| bazhang | whoa | 10:33 |
| Tm_T | nice, chanserv got slow on me | 10:33 |
| jussi01 | panos4ever: do you understand why you were forwarded here? | 10:34 |
| bazhang | panos4ever, never type that | 10:34 |
| panos4ever | ok | 10:34 |
| bazhang | panos4ever, not even in anger or as a joke | 10:34 |
| panos4ever | yeah yeah | 10:34 |
| panos4ever | i know | 10:34 |
| bazhang | panos4ever, new users might try to run it | 10:34 |
| panos4ever | :( | 10:34 |
| Tm_T | panos4ever: you know and you still did that | 10:34 |
| panos4ever | i didnt know that if i tell this like that | 10:35 |
| panos4ever | i would be banned | 10:35 |
| Tm_T | panos4ever: that is not the point | 10:35 |
| panos4ever | kkk | 10:35 |
| panos4ever | sorry | 10:35 |
| panos4ever | plz can u disban me? | 10:35 |
| Tm_T | panos4ever: the point is you possibly harm other users, that's the thing you should be worry | 10:35 |
| bazhang | it was wrong | 10:35 |
| bazhang | Never type that. | 10:36 |
| panos4ever | disban plz? | 10:36 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: I got to run, feel free to sort this as you see fit | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | "plz" and "u" (: | 10:36 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: will do son | 10:36 |
| panos4ever | for me??? | 10:36 |
| bazhang | I think he should have time to reflect on this | 10:37 |
| bazhang | !coc | panos4ever | 10:37 |
| ubottu | panos4ever: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 10:37 |
| Tm_T | panos4ever: ok, heres the thing, please don't say anything that can be dangerous in that way in support channels, ever | 10:37 |
| bazhang | !guidelines | panos4ever | 10:37 |
| ubottu | panos4ever: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 10:37 |
| bazhang | read those panos4ever | 10:37 |
| panos4ever | ok i will be back | 10:38 |
| Tm_T | panos4ever: read those links and meet us when you have read them fully with thought | 10:38 |
| Hobbsee | heya! | 10:45 |
| bazhang | panos4ever, please dont idle here | 10:46 |
| panos4ever | i am here | 10:46 |
| bazhang | !idle | panos4ever | 10:46 |
| ubottu | panos4ever: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | 10:46 |
| bazhang | panos4ever, please exit the channel | 10:47 |
| Myrtti | could someone take the forward off? | 10:50 |
| bazhang | I would if I could | 10:51 |
| jussi01 | done | 10:53 |
| bazhang | he just PM'ed me asking for all the links. No attitude just wanted the links. | 10:54 |
| bazhang | should he come back in a couple of days? or longer | 10:55 |
| Myrtti | !coc > panos4ever | 10:55 |
| Myrtti | bah | 10:55 |
| bazhang | he has them | 10:55 |
| jussi01 | bazhang: 24H. imho | 10:55 |
| Myrtti | I forget doing it like that makes ubotwo send them too | 10:55 |
| bazhang | jussi01, okay | 10:55 |
| jussi01 | bazhang: its just he knew it was wrong, and got frustrated. needs to cool down. | 10:56 |
| bazhang | jussi01, what he did was wrong; tarfart was really foul though (not a defense, but understandable that he would be upset) | 10:57 |
| bazhang | and he was asked to stop with the language more than once | 10:57 |
| bazhang | ie tarfart | 10:57 |
| bazhang | ah tarfart is now in #ubuntu | 10:59 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, how may we help you | 11:01 |
| jussi01 | ikonia: ;) | 11:02 |
| bazhang | he is ban dodging in #kubuntu | 11:02 |
| BUGabundo | good morning | 11:02 |
| bazhang | jussi01, tarfart | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo | hi bazhang | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo | I was brought here automaticly | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo | I guess it was to do with ikonia ban on me | 11:03 |
| jussi01 | bazhang: I only kicked him. | 11:03 |
| bazhang | jussi01, I see | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo | he says I delebirate changed my IP to access #ubuntu+1 | 11:03 |
| jussi01 | watching though. | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo | when I had no control of the router, where I was last night | 11:03 |
| bazhang | he was really foul, and seemingly trolling | 11:03 |
| BUGabundo | please visit the channel and ask further opionins | 11:04 |
| BUGabundo | many others can see this a single side vision | 11:04 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, this was about advertising a channel iirc | 11:04 |
| BUGabundo | I'll shut up now, and be availble to your questions | 11:04 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, so why not take a short while off (as he suggested the weekend) | 11:05 |
| BUGabundo | bazhang: humm I did... I did not enter the # on purposed | 11:05 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, then we can put it behind us | 11:05 |
| BUGabundo | pidgin as it set as autologin | 11:05 |
| BUGabundo | for me its all good | 11:05 |
| BUGabundo | I gave ikonia all the will he could | 11:06 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, see you after the weekend then | 11:06 |
| BUGabundo | did not pursue anything on this mather anymore | 11:06 |
| bazhang | <tarfart> hix the crack tool | 11:07 |
| bazhang | :/ | 11:07 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, please part the channel and see you on Monday | 11:08 |
| alteregoa | heh | 12:08 |
| alteregoa | houston i got a problem | 12:08 |
| bazhang | alteregoa, how may we help you | 12:08 |
| alteregoa | i added ushare | 12:09 |
| alteregoa | but this stuff scans the whole root | 12:09 |
| alteregoa | aprox 10tb, and that takes forever | 12:09 |
| bazhang | alteregoa, this is not a support channel you realize | 12:09 |
| alteregoa | ah | 12:11 |
| bazhang | #ubuntu for support | 12:11 |
| alteregoa | if i join ubuntu it forwarss me to this channel | 12:11 |
| alteregoa | #ubuntu #ubuntu-ops Forwarding to another channel | 12:11 |
| alteregoa | i try to log on another fn server | 12:12 |
| alteregoa | still the same | 12:13 |
| bazhang | you are banned in #ubuntu and forwarded here | 12:14 |
| bazhang | do you recall why you were banned? | 12:14 |
| alteregoa | yes | 12:14 |
| alteregoa | it was like 4 months ago | 12:15 |
| bazhang | 10 days ago by the ban records | 12:15 |
| alteregoa | ok so i log in with my shell | 12:16 |
| bazhang | alteregoa, ban evade? | 12:16 |
| alteregoa | i pasted a website containing a dude talking crap | 12:16 |
| alteregoa | that was harassing a few ppls | 12:17 |
| bazhang | alteregoa, better to resolve this with the operator who banned you then ban evade | 12:17 |
| bazhang | ban evasion is against freenode policy and could lead to you being banned from the server altogether | 12:18 |
| alteregoa | i don't remember the op, cause he klined me | 12:18 |
| bazhang | alteregoa, klined? are you certain? | 12:18 |
| alteregoa | yes | 12:18 |
| bazhang | alteregoa, then you should ask in #freenode and disconnect | 12:19 |
| alteregoa | ok i ask there | 12:19 |
| jussi01 | wow.... seems a lovely guy | 12:32 |
| jussi01 | ... | 12:33 |
| jussi01 | grumble... why doesnt this game in crossover detect I have the cd in :/ | 12:33 |
| bazhang | which game jussi01 ? | 12:35 |
| jussi01 | heroes of might and magic 3... | 12:36 |
| jussi01 | :D | 12:36 |
| bazhang | hehe | 12:36 |
| jussi01 | keep s telling me to put the cd in and restart the game... kinda annoying... | 12:36 |
| bazhang | its rated as gold/platinum in the wine appdb | 12:38 |
| bazhang | never had much luck with the free crossover, much better with wine tbh | 12:38 |
| jussi01 | eah, must be doing something worng. not sure what thogh... | 12:38 |
| jussi01 | wonder were it looks for the cd... | 12:39 |
| jussi01 | i have a real version of crossover, and if it works with wine, it should work with crossover | 12:40 |
| bazhang | true; just had better luck with wine | 12:40 |
| bazhang | the free version is the real version afaik | 12:40 |
| bazhang | same problem with fallout 2 (cant find cd) | 12:41 |
| jussi01 | bazhang: "free" version? | 12:41 |
| bazhang | jussi01, yep; they gave it away on one day only. | 12:41 |
| bazhang | full unlocked version, free | 12:42 |
| jussi01 | ahh, yeah, thats the real version. but I wouldnt refer to it as the "free" version.... | 12:42 |
| jussi01 | you confuse people | 12:42 |
| bazhang | s/people/person/ | 12:45 |
| bazhang | :) | 12:45 |
| jussi01 | no, I meant people... ;) | 12:46 |
| bazhang | legal, free, non-pirated version :) | 12:47 |
| jussi01 | it isnt a free version, its still being sold, and it was just given away for one day. | 12:47 |
| topyli | i downloaded crossover and office and the gaming thing that day too, but have yet to find use for them :) | 12:48 |
| popey | heh | 12:48 |
| bazhang | tarfart is mixing versions and installing via dpkg and claims he is in dependency hell | 12:49 |
| topyli | free software is enough so far :) | 12:49 |
| bazhang | more expletives in #kubuntu | 12:49 |
| topyli | copying music to phone from a samba share over wifi over usb 1.0 is not very fast :( | 12:52 |
| topyli | usb 1.1, whatever | 12:52 |
| jussi01 | topyli: heheh...no | 12:53 |
| topyli | hrm wifi claims to be 18Mb/s though | 12:53 |
| topyli | the usb is probably the bottleneck | 12:53 |
| topyli | or the phone | 12:53 |
| topyli | well the samba server is a wippies router too with a usb drive. that's probably not the fastest possible server either | 12:55 |
| topyli | i have built the slowest possible system! | 12:57 |
| bazhang | ugh | 12:57 |
| topyli | well i guess i could replace one of those links with infrared | 13:00 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, hi | 13:39 |
| bazhang | BUGabundo, thought we agreed you would come back on Monday | 13:39 |
| BUGabundo | pidgin auto login | 13:39 |
| BUGabundo | once I started the laptop | 13:40 |
| BUGabundo | to give my linux class | 13:40 |
| BUGabundo | exiting now | 13:40 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: what did he do? i work closely with him so just wondering | 13:40 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo's excuse of auto join does not cut it with me | 13:40 |
| ikonia | he stayed in the channel for over 3 hours knowing he was banned | 13:41 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, advertised in a channel after being warned not to, then ban evaded to compound it | 13:41 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: are you referering to BUGabundo | 13:41 |
| gnomefreak | ikonia: yes | 13:41 |
| bazhang | ikonia, actually in this case I believe him | 13:41 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: thanks | 13:41 |
| ikonia | bazhang why did he stay in the channel for 3 hours talking knowing he was banned | 13:41 |
| bazhang | ikonia, ie the auto join | 13:41 |
| gnomefreak | what channel? | 13:42 |
| bazhang | ikonia, am referring to right now | 13:42 |
| bazhang | #1 | 13:42 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: he keeps making little minor foul ups, which are fine, but when he is prodded about them he gets attitude and trys to argue | 13:42 |
| bazhang | err + | 13:42 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: he also keeps advertising random links/talks/groups in channels | 13:42 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: and when he's asked to stop he plays dumb about it | 13:42 |
| gnomefreak | :( thats not good | 13:43 |
| ikonia | then tries to be clever | 13:43 |
| ikonia | asking if I'm a bot etc etc | 13:43 |
| ikonia | when he knows quite well I'm not | 13:43 |
| ikonia | and as you can see - makes excuses for things | 13:44 |
| ikonia | "my client is auto joinining" - then why did you stay in the channel for hours talking knowing you where banned | 13:44 |
| gnomefreak | how did he get in under a ban? | 13:44 |
| bazhang | bruce89's comments of a day ago make more sense in light of checking the ban tracker | 13:45 |
| ikonia | I did it on IP as he sometimes uses _bugaundo or bugabundu_laptop | 13:45 |
| ikonia | he changed his IP | 13:45 |
| ikonia | which hasn't changed for 3 weeks | 13:45 |
| ikonia | but on the night of the ban - changed magically 3 hours later | 13:45 |
| ikonia | and his client auto joined on that same night 3 hours after I'd left | 13:45 |
| ikonia | and he stayed talking | 13:46 |
| ikonia | all a magical co-incidence | 13:46 |
| ikonia | he's not dumb - he knows what he's doing | 13:46 |
| ikonia | infact he's far from dumb | 13:46 |
| bazhang | talk to him on Monday then | 13:46 |
| gnomefreak | that would do it, well im still on the fence with that but he is a nice guy so i had to ask | 13:46 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: he's a great guy, and puts in a good ammount of effort in +1 | 13:47 |
| ikonia | no argument there | 13:47 |
| gnomefreak | i will talk to him most likely monday since im only here to fix one of my branches and do email, im sure asac will have other work for me | 13:48 |
| * Myrtti grunts at BUGabundo | 13:49 | |
| ikonia | Myrtti: a grunt | 13:50 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: it's nothing major, he just needs to stop arguing every point with pathetic detail | 13:51 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: the ban dodging has not impressed me though, as I said he's not dumb so he knows/knew what he was doing | 13:51 |
| gnomefreak | im sure he did. but really wish he didnt | 13:52 |
| Myrtti | ikonia, gnomefreak: http://www.qaiku.com/home/myrtti/show/1de12eedce7b37412ee11deb88aab3274b6c4a1c4a1/ | 13:52 |
| gnomefreak | Myrtti: thanks | 13:52 |
| gnomefreak | i see pink ;) witha few turtles | 13:55 |
| Myrtti | gnomefreak: roll downwards to his comments | 13:57 |
| Myrtti | he's full of that | 13:57 |
| Myrtti | there's a strong dislike of him around | 13:57 |
| Myrtti | hob bs ee and I have some details, but in general... well. I think his attitude in life and people in general needs a bit of adjustment | 13:58 |
| Myrtti | that's something that we can't cure, but still | 13:58 |
| gnomefreak | ok now that is not good | 13:59 |
| Myrtti | it's not the first time that | 14:00 |
| ikonia | Myrtti: is qaiku lke twitter | 14:00 |
| Myrtti | ikonia: it's like Jaiku pre-GoogleAppengine | 14:01 |
| Myrtti | ikonia: identi.ca will kick ass with the next release of laconica | 14:01 |
| Myrtti | it'll have the same threaded conversations like Jaiku, brightkite, facebook and qaiku | 14:02 |
| gnomefreak | well thst explains the bot question but not likley other things | 14:03 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: what explains the bot question ? | 14:04 |
| Myrtti | is the bot a she, I presume | 14:04 |
| gnomefreak | ikonia: your away message | 14:04 |
| popey | Myrtti: all bots are female | 14:05 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: I set that after his question | 14:05 |
| Myrtti | he joined in to -women last night because maco has been mentioning it on her blogpost | 14:05 |
| ikonia | at least I think I did | 14:05 |
| Myrtti | he's creeping out maco as well | 14:05 |
| bazhang | heh | 14:06 |
| ikonia | I think I'll go and clean my car now its back from the garage and play with my new amp :) | 14:06 |
| popey | clean cars are overrated | 14:06 |
| popey | :) | 14:06 |
| gnomefreak | ikonia: i dont have full logs of channel and god knows i dont want to see them after what i read on the link above. at least not today, it makes me want to do something bad ;) | 14:06 |
| ikonia | gnomefreak: well don't - it will get sorted | 14:08 |
| ikonia | popey: this thing needs a clean bad | 14:08 |
| bazhang | he is not nearly bad as many many others | 14:08 |
| bazhang | that are being given free pass after free pass ad infinitum | 14:08 |
| popey | bazhang: i cringe when i see his email on ubuntu lists :( | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | hell i wold him sortly after i joined i wasnt there to help i was just wondering | 14:09 |
| popey | wondering how confrontational he's going to be before I open the mail, I'm usually not surprised | 14:09 |
| bazhang | popey, meet asustek and groovyorange then get back to me | 14:09 |
| bazhang | not to mention shadeslayer | 14:09 |
| popey | just because someone is more of an asshat than someone else, that doesn't diminish the asshatery of the first proponent | 14:10 |
| bazhang | this is way beyond that | 14:10 |
| popey | ok | 14:10 |
| bazhang | bugabundo is a jerk and was wrong, no doubt | 14:11 |
| bazhang | those others are serious menaces | 14:11 |
| gnomefreak | agreed | 14:11 |
| gnomefreak | i do need to get me one of those auto away for just PMs | 14:11 |
| bazhang | I think two days is too short tbh | 14:12 |
| bazhang | ie i k o n i a ' s ban | 14:12 |
| bazhang | but asustek/etc and groovyorange need permabans | 14:12 |
| gnomefreak | hes ok with waiting the 2 days | 14:13 |
| * gnomefreak never heard of them | 14:13 | |
| bazhang | count yourself fortunate then | 14:13 |
| * gnomefreak wonders why asac is in +1 he tries to avoid chanlles outside dev channels | 14:13 | |
| gnomefreak | spell sucks today | 14:14 |
| gnomefreak | ing | 14:14 |
| LjL | how's watchbot doing? | 14:15 |
| bazhang | grate! | 14:16 |
| popey | gnomefreak: 13:21:42 < asac_the_2nd> anyone has font issues ;)? | 14:16 |
| popey | 13:21:52 < asac_the_2nd> e.g. after recent upgrade | 14:16 |
| popey | 13:21:57 < asac_the_2nd> if so, let me know! | 14:16 |
| popey | ^^ thats why | 14:16 |
| bazhang | ubuntu member operative gone bad | 14:17 |
| bazhang | ban evasion! | 14:17 |
| LjL | any false positives at all with watchbot? if not, i think i can make it call real ops | 14:17 |
| bazhang | LjL, none so far ^^ | 14:18 |
| LjL | uhm, i'm not so sure | 14:19 |
| LjL | [06:30] <WatchBot1> !fakeops | J-_ posted link to Photo sharing,Nudity site in #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:19 |
| bazhang | is aspoor giving exceptionally poor advice? | 14:19 |
| LjL | [06:35] <WatchBot1> !fakeops | tonyyarusso posted link to Photo sharing,Nudity site in #ubuntu-offtopic | 14:19 |
| LjL | these don't look good | 14:19 |
| LjL | unless tony and j have gone bad too ;) | 14:19 |
| bazhang | 'too' | 14:19 |
| bazhang | :/ | 14:19 |
| LjL | like asac! | 14:19 |
| bazhang | riight | 14:19 |
| gnomefreak | popey: thanks, i know that issue all too well :) | 14:23 |
| popey | :) | 14:23 |
| popey | ditto, jaunty nearly poked my eyes out with the massive fonts today | 14:24 |
| gnomefreak | popey: that was 3rd upload for it as i recall | 14:27 |
| gnomefreak | that was PPA i think the 2 fixes were pushed to | 14:29 |
| LjL | ok, so, what i've done to watchbot now | 14:29 |
| LjL | 1) whitelist deviantart and imageshack | 14:29 |
| LjL | 2) not warn if a site is in the "photo sharing" category, even though it's in other "bad" categories | 14:29 |
| LjL | i don't have any. | 14:31 |
| LjL | not at all. | 14:31 |
| space_cadet | !ops | 14:33 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! | 14:33 |
| ubottu | space_cadet called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () | 14:33 |
| LjL | space_cadet: err, YES? | 14:33 |
| space_cadet | why | 14:33 |
| LjL | no, first question is mine | 14:33 |
| space_cadet | because someone was telling me to go somewhere else, when my problem is with ubuntu | 14:33 |
| LjL | why the HELL did you just call !ops? | 14:33 |
| space_cadet | not ubuntu+1 | 14:33 |
| space_cadet | because u banned me for NO reason | 14:34 |
| LjL | then you know what happens if a man makes mistakes? | 14:34 |
| LjL | they'll probably do them again. | 14:34 |
| LjL | loser. | 14:34 |
| LjL | make jrib run out of the channel, yeah, good way to remain in there for long. | 14:34 |
| Gary | handbags at dawn | 14:34 |
| space_cadet | Help | 14:40 |
| mneptok | Please state the nature of the medical emergency. | 14:40 |
| space_cadet | Ljl has been abusing power | 14:41 |
| LjL | yes, you're being oppressed | 14:41 |
| LjL | space_cadet: what's the output of your "lsb_version -a"? | 14:41 |
| mneptok | I am programmed for basic channel health maintenance and monitoring tasks. | 14:42 |
| LjL | lsb_release -a, even | 14:42 |
| space_cadet | not found | 14:42 |
| LjL | space_cadet: try lsb_release -a, i mixed commands up | 14:42 |
| space_cadet | Distributor ID:Ubuntu | 14:43 |
| space_cadet | Description:Ubuntu 8.10 | 14:43 |
| space_cadet | Release:8.10 | 14:43 |
| space_cadet | Codename:intrepid | 14:43 |
| bazhang | calling ops in the -ops channel is not a good way to gain credibility of being oppressed | 14:43 |
| space_cadet | i was explaining to scunizi that i HAD 9.04 on my machine before and there were problems between the nvidia drivers and the x | 14:43 |
| space_cadet | and was asking if the 180 drivers had the same problem | 14:44 |
| LjL | space_cadet: so jrib misunderstood you as using alpha when you were not? | 14:44 |
| space_cadet | yes | 14:44 |
| LjL | space_cadet: and how did you react? | 14:44 |
| space_cadet | and I was a little rude to him because he kept telling me to go to #ubuntu+1 | 14:44 |
| space_cadet | specifically, I told him to "butt out" | 14:44 |
| bazhang | quite rude | 14:45 |
| bazhang | in fact | 14:45 |
| LjL | you mean this | 14:45 |
| space_cadet | because he hadn't read the context of the conversation | 14:45 |
| LjL | [15:28:49] <jrib> !jaunty | space_cadet | 14:45 |
| LjL | [15:28:49] <ubottu> space_cadet: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support. | 14:45 |
| LjL | [15:29:07] <space_cadet> askthebot > jrib | 14:45 |
| LjL | and this | 14:45 |
| LjL | [15:29:35] <jrib> space_cadet: jaunty help in #ubuntu+1, not here | 14:45 |
| LjL | [15:29:45] <space_cadet> jrib butt out | 14:45 |
| LjL | ? | 14:45 |
| space_cadet | yes that. | 14:45 |
| LjL | and were those the only instances where jrib told you to go to #ubuntu+1? | 14:46 |
| space_cadet | it's interesting how they flame you for just mentioning 9x | 14:46 |
| space_cadet | but never get into trouble | 14:46 |
| bazhang | its the wrong channel | 14:46 |
| bazhang | they are not 'flaming you' | 14:46 |
| space_cadet | yes they are, because my issue at hand was not with 9.04 it is with 8.10 | 14:47 |
| space_cadet | so it is irrelevant | 14:47 |
| LjL | space_cadet, were those the only instances where jrib told you to go to #ubuntu+1? | 14:47 |
| space_cadet | yes | 14:47 |
| LjL | so in essence | 14:48 |
| LjL | he misunderstood you | 14:48 |
| LjL | and instead of explaining that to him | 14:48 |
| LjL | you first gave him an unwarranted !askthebot | 14:48 |
| LjL | and then told him to "butt out" in second instance | 14:48 |
| LjL | well, i need to be off right now, but i'm sure the other ops here can deal with the issue | 14:48 |
| space_cadet | might I present this | 14:50 |
| space_cadet | <space_cadet> Because I know that when I was back in the dev chain and 9.04 installed automagically, i didn't have nvidia drivers because they conflicted with X... Has that problem been resolved? | 14:50 |
| space_cadet | <jrib> !jaunty | space_cadet | 14:50 |
| space_cadet | if anyone was following the conversation like jrib appeared to be, they would have understood the context that sentence was written in. | 14:51 |
| space_cadet | ^^ this was directly after scunizi told me to add the medibuntu repo's and install the 180 drivers for nvidia | 14:51 |
| bazhang | space_cadet, I saw the whole thing live. no need for 'context' | 14:52 |
| bazhang | space_cadet, you were unnecessarily rude. | 14:52 |
| space_cadet | in my defence so was jrib | 14:52 |
| bazhang | space_cadet, not so. | 14:52 |
| bazhang | space_cadet, the number of people talking about jaunty in the wrong channel these days is astounding. | 14:53 |
| gnomefreak | with as many people on IRC there is bound to be misunderstandings since not everyone speaks english as a first language. but im not in this | 14:53 |
| bazhang | all of us immediately suggest that channel. | 14:53 |
| space_cadet | exactly, | 14:53 |
| space_cadet | that's what's rude | 14:54 |
| bazhang | not out of rudeness. | 14:54 |
| bazhang | No. | 14:54 |
| space_cadet | it appears to be rude from my end, | 14:54 |
| space_cadet | that is why i responded the way I did | 14:54 |
| bazhang | you are making this a big issue. | 14:54 |
| bazhang | when it need not be. | 14:54 |
| bazhang | you mention jaunty, you will get that link | 14:55 |
| bazhang | that is the same for every_one. | 14:55 |
| space_cadet | if I am taking too much of your time, just tell me and I will leave, although i would like to resolve this, and will apologize to jrib | 14:55 |
| space_cadet | I understand I was rude | 14:55 |
| bazhang | just to clarify, he was not rude. | 14:55 |
| bazhang | we all do that to every one who mentions jaunty in the wrong channel. | 14:55 |
| bazhang | practically half of what I say in #kubuntu and #ubuntu are that. | 14:56 |
| bazhang | it is almost exactly one month from final release. | 14:56 |
| space_cadet | i agree, however, it may appear rude to someone that is not talking about jaunty per se, but just mentioning it because it relates. | 14:56 |
| space_cadet | but no, jrib was not being rude. | 14:56 |
| bazhang | heh | 14:56 |
| space_cadet | i was | 14:56 |
| bazhang | then you need to grow much thicker skin, because busy channels such as ubuntu, will all the crosstalk can lead to mis-understandings. | 14:57 |
| space_cadet | yes. | 14:57 |
| bazhang | okay great | 14:57 |
| bazhang | space_cadet, did you re join ubuntu? | 15:01 |
| space_cadet | yep. thx | 15:04 |
| space_cadet | and i apologized to jrib | 15:04 |
| * mneptok deactivates | 15:04 | |
| bazhang | okay then someone must have removed your ban. | 15:04 |
| bazhang | just checking :) | 15:04 |
| mneptok | umm ... | 15:05 |
| mneptok | 10:35 -!- space_cadet [n=space_ca@71.238.149.33] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye"] | 15:05 |
| bazhang | no? | 15:05 |
| mneptok | 10:41 -!- space_cadet [n=space_ca@c-98-209-16-81.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops | 15:05 |
| mneptok | why the 2 different hostmasks? | 15:06 |
| space_cadet | umm... | 15:06 |
| bazhang | ban evasion? | 15:06 |
| bazhang | while in -ops | 15:07 |
| space_cadet | guilty. | 15:07 |
| mneptok | i detect elevated stress levels. | 15:08 |
| space_cadet | not any more actually. | 15:08 |
| space_cadet | my quarrels have been resolved. | 15:08 |
| mneptok | i was speaking for myself. ban evasion makes me really, really unhappy. | 15:08 |
| space_cadet | although if further action is needed, i will not evade again. | 15:09 |
| mneptok | you will not evade again regardless of what is needed. | 15:09 |
| space_cadet | that's what I meant to say. | 15:09 |
| mneptok | and yeah, THAT is unfriendly. jrib got nothin' on me. | 15:09 |
| space_cadet | well, do what you think is best. (not sarcasm) | 15:10 |
| mneptok | all of us use Ubuntu IRC namespace solely at the discretion of the greater community. there are some soft rules about what topics get discussed in what channels. | 15:11 |
| mneptok | there are some much, MUCH harder rules about ban evasion. | 15:11 |
| mneptok | these things are not enforced at whim. they serve a purpose. and no one is above the rules simply because of how they feel at the time. | 15:12 |
| mneptok | twice now you have shoved the rules aside due to personal exigency. that's some stellar community focus. | 15:12 |
| mneptok | that though in your mind is all the action i am going to take. | 15:12 |
| mneptok | *thought | 15:13 |
| space_cadet | is there a link somewhere to the full rules? | 15:14 |
| mneptok | !coc | 15:14 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 15:14 |
| space_cadet | ty | 15:14 |
| mneptok | i'd also like you to look at this channel log | 15:14 |
| mneptok | (sorry for the mini-flood): | 15:14 |
| mneptok | 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o LjL] by ChanServ | 15:15 |
| mneptok | 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b *!*@71.238.149.33] by LjL | 15:15 |
| mneptok | 10:35 -!- space_cadet [n=space_ca@71.238.149.33] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye"] | 15:15 |
| mneptok | 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o LjL] by LjL | 15:15 |
| mneptok | 10:39 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o LjL] by ChanServ | 15:15 |
| mneptok | 10:39 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b *!*@71.238.149.33] by LjL | 15:15 |
| mneptok | so you see, your evasion wasn't even necessary. | 15:16 |
| space_cadet | lol | 15:16 |
| space_cadet | well again, ty 4 the info, | 15:18 |
| space_cadet | hopefully my 8.10 problem is resolved, | 15:18 |
| space_cadet | but I must reboot to find out.... (I also bookmarked the nfo u gave me) | 15:19 |
| mneptok | i think that's the least of your issues with Ubuntu at this point. | 15:19 |
| space_cadet | i think the issues presented have nothing to do with ubuntu | 15:19 |
| space_cadet | they have to do with anger management | 15:19 |
| mneptok | then you need to read the Code Of Conduct more carefully. | 15:19 |
| space_cadet | bookmarked it. will read it upon reboot. | 15:20 |
| mneptok | Ubuntu ain't just ones and zeroes. | 15:20 |
| space_cadet | sorry for all the drama guys. | 15:20 |
| bazhang | masterfully done good sir | 15:21 |
| mneptok | dum dee dee | 15:21 |
| bazhang | I had no idea what to do there. | 15:21 |
| mneptok | i couldn't find my lighter, so ... | 15:23 |
| bazhang | haha | 15:24 |
| bazhang | wild | 15:58 |
| bazhang | okay that was insane | 16:03 |
| gnomefreak | #ot has a chance of going very very bad | 16:38 |
| bazhang | I left for 5 minutes and that happens :/ | 16:43 |
| gnomefreak | its all good im there and watching while i cant do much else at this time | 16:44 |
| bazhang | ikanobbori may need a wake-up call | 16:44 |
| bazhang | some very unpleasant language from him | 16:44 |
| gnomefreak | i agree | 16:46 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt see that part until i scrolled | 16:46 |
| gnomefreak | go figure i stopped watching because they were being good than that happens. | 16:58 |
| bazhang | its mostly just ikanobori | 16:59 |
| bazhang | groovyorange and icebuntu/etc have stayed away | 16:59 |
| jussi01 | ikonia: you around? | 17:12 |
| bazhang | heh | 17:12 |
| ikonia | jussi01: yes, here I am | 17:13 |
| * jussi01 points ikonia to pm... | 17:14 | |
| bazhang | enough trollwatching in -ot for me, night all | 17:14 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: night | 17:15 |
| LjL | i'm around now | 18:15 |
| LjL | was anyone watching -ot when Cobalt left with an expletive? | 18:19 |
| LjL | was he justified in doing so? | 18:19 |
| LjL | meh, emma flooding #ubuntu | 18:43 |
| LjL | She Should Know Better | 18:43 |
| JosefAssad | so, I'm connected to freenode on port 8001 and I'm still not allowed in #ubuntu | 18:50 |
| LjL | yes you are | 18:55 |
| LjL | when the bot told you to "please wait a couple of minutes" | 18:56 |
| LjL | it meant that you had to kindly wait a couple of minutes | 18:56 |
| LjL | now, it's just told you that you can presently rejoin | 18:56 |
| JosefAssad | The meaning of wait a couple of minutes wasn't something I'd been having trouble interpreting. | 18:58 |
| JosefAssad | I did ask the bot to test me quite a while ago to no avail. I see it works now. | 18:59 |
| LjL | JosefAssad: i see. well it's worked this time | 19:00 |
| LjL | JosefAssad: sorry if there's been any inconvenience | 19:00 |
| JosefAssad | I hope the rest of your community are smarter than me. Cheers. | 19:01 |
| ubottu | Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (hotgirlcandy9023) | 19:04 |
| Gary | klined | 19:17 |
| LjL | yeah, the viole(n)t highlights in several channels hinted to that fact | 19:17 |
| LjL | factoid proposal: !list is <reply> No, this is not THAT kind of channel. Move along. | 19:25 |
| mneptok | counter proposal: alias it to !mirrors | 19:42 |
| LjL | counter proposal: just auto-ban the people using it | 19:43 |
| LjL | especially if they come from .it | 19:43 |
| mneptok | agreed. next item? | 19:43 |
| LjL | the -it bot actually says "this is not a file sharing channel" if you do !list... | 19:43 |
| mneptok | does it whisper it, snake-like, with a Sicilian accent? | 19:47 |
| jussi01 | mneptok: stop airing your fantasies :P | 20:10 |
| LjL | mneptok: imma not shorre whatte yerre implayinga | 20:43 |
| ikonia | I see BUGabundo is trying yet another IP address | 21:14 |
| Flannel | ubottu: tell Roozbeh|Away about away | 23:43 |
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