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Dillizarwill gnome programs work on xubuntu00:11
charlie-tcayes00:11
Dillizarbot not themes00:12
charlie-tcaalthough they may add dependencies00:12
charlie-tcaThemes will too00:12
Dillizarwow00:12
charlie-tcafor the most part00:12
Dillizarhmm00:12
charlie-tca!themes00:12
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy00:12
Dillizari can put kde AND gnome00:12
charlie-tcanot the www.gnome.org00:12
charlie-tcanot=note00:12
Dillizarwow now i have 3 OS to choose from LCARS 24 LXDE or xfce00:13
Dillizarlxde its off cuz it looks like kde and i dont like it00:14
Dillizarbut never the less LCARS is hmmm ^^00:14
Dillizar!usb00:15
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent00:15
Dillizardamn its so hard00:17
* charlie-tca thinks only hard the first 10-20 times00:19
Dillizaryeah00:20
Dillizarbut00:20
Dillizarlook at this00:20
Dillizarhttp://lxde.org/download00:20
Dillizarwhy they dont do this with xubuntu too00:21
charlie-tcaLook at the sizes they have. We have to stay up with Ubuntu, since we use the same installers and repositories00:22
Dillizarwait00:23
charlie-tcaWhen borrowing from elsewhere, you can't always just change it.00:23
Dillizardoes 9.04 comes out the same time with ubuntu00:23
charlie-tcayes, April 23.00:24
Dillizarcharlie-tca so a 700mb iso to make it a a usb i will need how big usb??00:24
charlie-tca700mb, I think00:24
charlie-tcaI don't know for sure. I don't do that00:25
Dillizarif i install lxde00:25
charlie-tcahttp://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/00:25
charlie-tcaTake a look at that00:25
Dillizarand then install xfce will i have xubuntu??\00:26
Dillizarno00:26
charlie-tcano, xubuntu is not lxde, it is ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome00:26
knomeDillizar, you could think that xfce is part of xubuntu00:27
Dillizaryeah00:28
Dillizarbut lxde its ubuntu with lxde right00:28
Dillizaror just debian \00:28
charlie-tcalscd is not ubuntu, it is debian00:28
Dillizarnot ubuntu00:28
charlie-tcaThat is not the same, although it uses some of the same stuff00:28
Dillizaris there #xubuntu+100:28
Dillizarnope :)00:29
charlie-tcano, all of +1 is ubuntu: #ubuntu+1 handles ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu00:29
charlie-tcabut not lxde00:29
Dillizarso i need  usb-creator and a xubuntu :)00:30
charlie-tcayou need whatever xubuntu blog said.00:30
charlie-tcaHe is a xubuntu user00:30
Dillizarsounds scary00:31
charlie-tcayou don't have a cd drive?00:31
Dillizarwell i have but it doesnt work that good00:31
Dillizarbut00:32
charlie-tcaAll the images are good today00:32
Dillizari want to make with me PC (ubuntu)00:32
Dillizarfor my laptop00:32
Dillizarcharlie-tca thanks a lot man for the info i will be installing xubuntu 9.04 first thing in the morning00:45
charlie-tcaGreat. You are welcome00:45
charlie-tcaGood luck, and yes, we discuss 9.04 here too00:46
charlie-tcaI am running it, and so are several others00:46
Dillizarthey say its damn fast00:47
Dillizar:)00:47
charlie-tcaIt is fast, and works smooth. Ext4 file system still has issues though00:47
rockois dellos really the most secure os in da world ?02:06
rockowhy you guys use xubuntu?02:06
rockodellos is where it is at02:06
rockowith dellirc02:06
bluestazeHello i want to how it is possible to know whats my wireless card02:42
bluestazeI use Ubuntu :P02:42
charlie-tcabluestaze: try "sudo lshw" in a terminal02:56
brandonban6evening! How do I "exit X" or quit my xserver? Trying to upgrade my video card, and that is the message the driver gives me03:00
brandonban6ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.03:00
brandonban6 sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop <-- crashed my system in regards to my above question :(03:10
meowImAKittycan anyone help me with configuring the xorg file to work with my laptops external monitor port?03:21
brandonban6anyone know where to change the theme for panel?04:33
TWFhi!04:42
brandonban6hello04:42
TWFI got what claimed to be the xubuntu 8.10 torrent04:43
TWFhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/intrepid/release/desktop/xubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent04:44
TWFbut upon installing it appeared to be ubuntu 8.0404:44
brandonban6what do you mean appeared to be? did the splash screen show up as ubuntu?04:46
n2diyI see there is no text editor in accessories, what would you suggest? I'd like something that will do syntac checking for html and perl?04:48
brandonban6n2diy, the text editor is listed as mousepad, I don't know how it fairs out with coding, but if you want the gnome client, you can type "sudo apt-get install gedit" in a terminal screen.04:49
n2diybrandonban6: thanks, yes, mousepad, still confuses me.04:52
TWFit was gnome04:53
TWFall the splash screens showed up as ubuntu, not xubuntu04:57
TWFit looked exactly like a default ubuntu 8.04 install04:57
brandonban6TWF, that stinks. Perhaps try another download?04:58
TWFI direct-downloaded the same file04:59
TWFthey exactly matched in size so I assume they're the same iso04:59
TWFthat's not my problem though really05:01
TWFI got xubuntu-desktop through synaptic05:01
TWFwhich worked great for a few minutes05:01
TWFI did this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfcehardy05:03
TWFto remove gnome, but now my display's all messed up05:03
brandonban6TWF, I'm sorry! Wish I could help, but that is a bit out of my league, maybe try posting in ubuntuforums? or perhaps trying later when someone else is on.05:04
TWFI did post on the ubuntu forums :X05:06
TWFthey're having database troubles atm.05:06
n2diydoes abiword do syntax checking for perl and/or html?05:20
n2diytest n2diy test05:37
cjaesudo chmod a + rwx /dev/sdb would let everyone be able to modify my ntfs external drive?07:25
SlonkieI'm getting this error when i'm trying to add some new repositories and getting the keys for them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/134714/ - Would anyone be able to help me in howto fix this?08:33
Grraiheya08:59
knome!hi | Grrai09:14
ubottuGrrai: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!09:14
Grraihmm... gonna reboot... see you in a bit, maybe.. (if reboot didn't heölp09:43
Grrai*help :P )09:43
savvashello, is the default screensaver application in xfce xscreensaver? does it have a dbus address to get its state?09:54
TheSheepsavvas: it's gnome-screensaver10:36
chewitis the new nofication system which is in ubuntu 9.04, going to be in xubuntu11:18
savvasTheSheep: thanks :)11:18
ruhaanhow do i share my internet connection with other pcs on my network with xubuntu?12:08
cody-somervilleruhaan, buy a router12:13
BesogonIt quastion not only for xubuntu. I never did that, but I only know about you must do something with iptables and ipfoward.12:14
ruhaan_cody-somerville, i have my network all set up12:15
ruhaan_i just need to share the internet12:15
ruhaan_so not really looking to buy a router12:15
cody-somervilleruhaan_, install firestarter12:15
ruhaan_yeah tried that12:16
ruhaan_but dhcp doesnt work with it12:16
cody-somervilledid you install the dhcp server?12:16
ruhaan_i have installed the dhcp package though12:16
ruhaan_still it has the dhcp section grayed out12:16
cody-somervilledhcp client or server?12:16
ruhaan_server12:16
Besogonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=71387412:17
Besogonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9137012:17
Besogonstep by step12:17
ruhaan_thanks Besogon12:17
ladanzhi there! i have a little problem. i have a new hdd and simply mv'ed my old linux stuff to the new partition. as it seemed everything is alright, despite some minor issues, but there is a bigger problem with the sound. it doesn't work anymore. the "panel sound applet" shows nothing to regulate...13:03
ladanzi just look for a way too (auto) reconfigure alsa13:04
ladanzi tried dpkg-reconfigure alsa & alsa-base13:04
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{zEr0-x}hi everybody!15:15
{zEr0-x}I have a question15:15
{zEr0-x}why if I decided to test Xubuntu in spanish, some apps came in english15:16
charlie-tcaPerhaps they are not translated yet. which version ?15:16
{zEr0-x}Mozilla Thunderbird v2.0.0.1715:17
charlie-tcaXubuntu version, please?15:18
{zEr0-x}:O Intrepid15:18
{zEr0-x}Recently downloaded (yesterday)15:18
{zEr0-x}any idea?15:21
SiDigo to system -> language support15:24
SiDiit'll probably tell you its missing a few language packages and ask you to let it download them15:25
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DaveDixonIIHey. I need help.16:56
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dbdii407When i click on a window, it wont come into focus16:56
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basajaunhi all!18:53
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basajaunhi all19:09
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basajaunbye all19:40
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lc2aaaanyyyway this cake is great, it's so delicious and moist20:57
* lc2 waves to everyone20:57
cody-somervillethe cake is a lie20:57
lc2hi cody-somerville20:58
* SiDi waves, too.20:58
rupert_.21:51
knome!hi | rupert_21:51
ubotturupert_: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!21:51
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rupert_hello21:52
Daxiehi21:52
gorgutlo21:52
lc2y helo thar21:53
Shooreeanyone in the mood for walking a newb through fixing Acer 5920G (media keys + hibernation) issues on Xubuntu 8.10? I'm a quick learner :)22:01
lc2mm, i don't know shit about that, but you might want to try someone in the main ubuntu channel, since those issues are nearly always not xubuntu-specific22:06
Shooreeright right22:06
Shooreewill do that, cheers22:07
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Shooreemeh, its like a well of despair in #ubuntu! thousands of questions flying around... I'll never get an answer :(22:13
knomeShooree, which xubuntu version are you running?22:16
Shooree8.1022:16
knomeright. let me see if i can help you. just a moment22:16
ShooreeI'm wading through the very detailed solutions on the forums, but I can't get any of them to work22:16
ShooreeI actually reinstalled the system hours ago, in order to solve it afresh22:17
Shooreewould you like me to post the links to the forum threads I'm reffering to_, knome_22:18
SiDiDid you just try to bind the keys in "Xfce params -> keyboard -> shortcuts" ?22:18
knomeShooree, that would be nice, yeah.22:18
Shooreewhat I did was explained in step one of the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99786022:19
Shooreefirst stumbling point for me was that it doesn't say where to save the .xbindkeysrc file, once I create and edit it22:19
Shooreeit just ends up in my home folder22:20
knomei suppose it is the right place22:20
Shooreeok then22:20
Shooreeso I've put it there22:20
Shooreelike the guide says22:20
Shooreeand made the autostart command22:20
Shooreethe xinput thing mentioned in the paragraph above22:21
knomeyeah.22:21
Shooreeinstalled exhaile that the guy mentions22:21
knomehave you booted/logged out and in after that?22:21
Shooreeand bummer. the media keys still works as if its a mouse wheel22:21
Shooreeyea, several times22:22
knomeok22:22
ShooreeI haven't done any other steps yet22:23
knome!info xvkbd22:23
ubottuxvkbd (source: xvkbd): software virtual keyboard for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-1 (intrepid), package size 70 kB, installed size 296 kB22:23
Shooreeshould I do something with this info?22:24
knomecan you try to change any of those items to, for example, "exaile"22:25
knomethe xvkbd items22:25
knomeand restart x and try if that button opens exaile22:25
ShooreeI'm sorry, I don't follow... should I install this xvkbd package first?22:25
knomenope. just mevermind that. :)22:26
knomeor well, i think it would be good if you don't have it already22:26
Shooreehaven't installed anything like that22:26
knomeok, then try installing it22:26
Shooreeok22:26
knomeand restart x and try thebuttons22:27
Shooreeyou mean, without touching anything else - just install and restart22:27
knomeyes.22:27
Shooreeokies. see you in a sec22:28
knomesure22:28
Shooreenope, nothing changed22:33
Shooreetried rewriting the autostart command again22:33
knomeright...22:33
Shooreeand still nothing22:33
ShooreeI'm restarting X from the tty thing, btw. Is that alright?22:34
knomeShooree, i suppose it is, as long as X really gets restarted22:34
Shooreehow do I know it really did get restarted?22:34
Shooreeis there a better option22:34
Shooreeother than an actual restart22:35
knomectrl+alt+bakcspace should restart x22:35
ShooreeI mean, I kill the gdm22:35
Shooreethrough tty22:35
knomekilling the gdm doesn't really restart x22:35
Shooreeoh22:35
Shooreeohhhh22:35
Shooreewell, sorry then. I'll try it immediately22:36
knomeat least properly, if i'm correct22:36
knomenp.22:36
Shooreeoh oh22:36
Shooreehow do I restart it_22:36
Shooreeif I need to22:36
Shooreeor does it do that by itself22:36
Shooree:)22:36
knomectrl+alt+backspace when in graphical mode, preferably in gdm22:36
knomethen x reloads itself22:37
Shooreeokies. thanks22:37
knomeat least in intrepid it should22:37
Shooreelets see :)22:37
knomeyou'll see the screen going black22:37
knomedamn this slow interweb22:37
Shooreeits the same thing, apparently22:42
Shooreethrough tty is just a longer way22:43
Shooreeanyway, the media keys are still not remapped22:43
knomeyeah.22:43
knomeright.22:43
whileimhereSilly Question but if I am using a laptop with an AMD athlon processor and with a gig of ram will XFCE actually still run light then the Ubuntu desktop?22:44
knomewhileimhere, it will still run with less ram, but you might not see performance differnece easily22:44
Shooreewhileimhere, yes it will22:45
knomeShooree, if you issue the ximput command in terminal, what happens?22:45
whileimherewell I was wondering about that since I use such heavy progs like GIMP and OO would they be better off in XFCE or GNOME?22:45
knome*xinput22:45
Shooreelemme see22:45
ShooreeI see usage help22:46
knomewhileimhere, basically xfce, if you run to the limits of your ram22:46
lc2whileimhere: it makes no difference22:46
lc2whileimhere: i use GIMP all the time under XFCE22:46
whileimhereAs a side non XFCE note is there a faster lighter and better or just as good web browser out there?22:46
knomewhileimhere, if you run anything that needs under 1 gig, then htere is basically no differnce22:46
whileimhereI mean will GIMP respond better under XFCE than under GNOME?22:46
lc2whileimhere: it makes no difference what WM you run it under22:46
knomewhileimhere, not really.22:47
lc2whileimhere: i use it regularly for 3k+ x photos with 384mb RAM22:47
whileimherelc2 you mean that GIMP is just as responsive under GNOME with a 10 meg graphic as it is under XFCE?22:47
lc2whileimhere: well, other than that XFCE uses less memory and so has more available for GIMP, yeah, pretty much22:47
knomewhileimhere, there is no difference as long as you don't use all your ram.22:48
whileimhereAHH that is really what I was wondering22:48
whileimhereThank you!22:48
drozdakexcuse me does anyone know if xfce 4.6 is avalible in xubuntu 8.10 updates?22:48
knomeShooree, the complete xinput line which is in part 1?22:48
knomedrozdak, no.22:49
drozdaktoo bad22:49
knomedrozdak, (it isn't)22:49
drozdakwhy do you think so?22:49
Shooreeknome, no, I don't see the line that's in the first step of the post22:50
ShooreeI mean22:50
knomedrozdak, i meant thathat me saying no meant that it isn't in the updates. :)22:50
Shooreewhat I see is "usage:" and then quite a few command options listed below22:50
ShooreeI just typed "xinput" in terminal22:51
drozdakok22:51
knomeShooree, with 'xinput set-button-map "4" 1 2 3 17 18 19 20 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16'?22:51
Shooreewas I supposed to open it up for... oh22:51
Shooreeshould I type that?22:51
Shooreeinto the terminal22:51
knomeyeah.22:52
ShooreeI made an autostart command out of that22:52
Shooreeokok22:52
ShooreeI think I understand where this is going22:52
Shooreegot and error22:52
ShooreeX Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)22:53
Shooreewhen I c/p-ed the line22:53
knomeright...22:53
Shooreethat's what I got. then there's a few more lines22:53
knomethat's why your keys doesn't work.22:53
Shooreewhat does that tell us?22:54
ShooreeI'd really like to understand what I'm doing22:54
ShooreeI mean, I know we're diagnosing22:54
knomei have to say i don't have a slightest clue.22:55
Shooreehahaha22:55
Shooreegreat22:55
knomebut that's where it comes down to. have you read all the comments for that thread?22:55
Shooreeyes, several times. but then there's other threads. and even more of them.22:56
knomemaybe you could search for your specific problem from the threads.22:57
knomeatm i have so slow internet connection i just can't do quick browsing :(22:57
Shooreeyea I did do that already. it's my 10th hour of poking around.22:57
ShooreeI just figured I might stumble into someone who could sort of filter all the noise out22:58
knomesorry to hear that. i hope someone with more experience with those issues come up.22:58
Shooreemm22:59
Shooreeanyways, thanks a lot22:59
Shooreeit was fun to be optimistic for a while22:59
knomenp22:59
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