[00:00] and if not, could you? [00:00] does sudoedit work? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [00:00] cwillu: will do, although its still as the default as i just purged and reinstalled sudo [00:00] jscinoz, humour me :p [00:00] jscinoz did you check to make sure your user is a member of the admin group? [00:00] and no sudoedit doesnt work [00:00] crashsystems: yes [00:00] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/moosplash-a-cowsay-inspired-usplash-theme-for-ubuntu.html [00:01] cwillu: http://pastebin.com/f29d7334a [00:01] http://crunchbang.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/screenhot-gt-usplash.png [00:01] hah. [00:01] crunch... bang? [00:01] #! [00:02] jscinoz, my hunch is that you have a timestamp that's broken [00:03] hmm, sudo -k or sudo -K [00:03] cwillu: and what should i do [00:03] jscinoz: You said you can log in as root, right? Does "sudo echo test" (or something similar) work when you're root? [00:03] rww, no, he just tried that exact line :p [00:03] try what DanaG said [00:04] oh, I thought he tried it as a normal user [00:04] jscinoz, what filesystem is root and var on? [00:04] DanaG: did that, no change [00:04] cwillu: back [00:04] ah, from the root account, I get you [00:04] cwillu: ext3 [00:04] humm IIRC it was a question on hibernate [00:04] and uwsp compression [00:05] * cwillu answers flips a coin and determines that the answer was yes [00:05] any ideas on how I can speed up the replication of but #345599? [00:05] bug #345599 * [00:05] Launchpad bug 345599 in indicator-applet "indicator applet dissapears" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345599 [00:05] jscinoz, do you have a password set on the root account? [00:05] cwillu: no [00:06] jscinoz, you have a root prompt up? [00:06] before i dl alpha 6, is there nvidia drivers yet or no [00:06] cwillu: ssh root@localhost [00:06] steve_, afaik, there's been nvidia drivers for a while now [00:06] cwillu: publickey login [00:06] jscinoz, does sudo echo foo work from that prompt? [00:07] cwillu steals my ideas D: [00:07] rww, with pride :p [00:07] cwillu> thanks, going to dl mythbuntu latest, but would be useless without drivers, thanks again [00:07] No working nvidia driver for NV17 (a 2-that-nvidia-lies-and-calls-a-4 MX) card, for me. [00:08] cwillu: yes, but i'm alreadyroo there [00:08] root* [00:08] jscinoz, doesn't matter, it's still going through the motions [00:08] nvidia 96.43.10 just makes compiz and login hang... and then if I chmod -x compiz.real, it makes xorg segfault every time my desktop tries to load. [00:08] hmm [00:08] so sudo isn't completely broken [00:08] jscinoz, make a new user, add him to the admin group, and then check if _he_ can sudo [00:10] sec [00:10] random: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=94279&file1=94279-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=CleanUSplash [00:11] cwillu: nope [00:11] cwillu: also i think su is broken too [00:11] ooo [00:11] when i tried su to the normal user and entered its correct password it just didnt su [00:11] i had to go the root shell and su from there [00:11] jscinoz, have you played around with changing dash to bash or any similar sh games? [00:12] or pam, maybe? [00:12] * cwillu forks [00:12] 1: killing /var/run/sudo and remaking it [00:13] 2: pastebin the contents of /etc/pam.d/sudo [00:13] and possibly /etc/pam.d/common-* [00:13] cwillu: none of that [00:14] cwillu: http://pastebin.com/f14f5f182 /etc/pam.d/sudo [00:14] * cwillu studies jscinoz's face for the telltales signs of a liar :p [00:14] j/k [00:14] k, give me common-auth and common-account [00:15] one sec [00:15] cwillu: common-auth http://pastebin.com/f454ebbc1 [00:15] I'm tempted to ask you to pastebin /var/log/auth.log as well, although you want to be sure that you haven't typed your password in as your username by accident recently [00:16] cwillu: common-account http://pastebin.com/f2d40e39d [00:16] cwillu: auth.log http://pastebin.com/f2b920ca2 [00:17] no doubt as soon as I give up on this backtrace the bug will rear it's ugly head again. [00:17] you've got an extra smb line that I don't have, otherwise identical [00:19] Mar 22 11:10:22 jscinoz passwd[30032]: pam_smbpass(passwd:chauthtok): Failed to find entry for user test. [00:20] jscinoz, I don't think this'll change anything, but could you try commenting out the smb entry in common-auth? [00:20] cwillu: one sec [00:20] and then sudo echo foo again from a normal account, etc [00:21] cwillu: it works now. [00:21] O_o [00:22] jscinoz, file a bug on smb [00:22] cwillu: saying what? [00:22] jscinoz, saying that including that in common-auth breaks sudo [00:22] let them figure it out :p [00:22] ok [00:23] you've had this for a while now? [00:23] (the bug) [00:23] yeah about a week [00:23] * cwillu goes and checks changelogs [00:25] jscinoz, """debian/local/pam-auth-update (et al): new interface for managing /etc/pam.d/common-*, using drop-in config snippets provided by the module packages.""" [00:26] jscinoz, third of march sound right? [00:26] What's up with the danged thing switching BACK to xorg the first time I try to switch to a tty? [00:26] jscinoz, include libpam-modules on the bug report [00:27] jscinoz, you have libpam-smbpass installed? [00:27] cwillu: yeah its installed [00:27] nah it was later than that [00:27] jscinoz, include it in the bug :p [00:28] probably around 16th [00:28] HAH [00:28] ya, libpam-smbpass changed on the 16th [00:28] looking at the changelog now [00:30] cwillu: what package should i file the bug against? libpam-smbpass? [00:30] jscinoz, I'd say file it against all three (which you do after you make the bug) [00:31] well [00:31] nah [00:31] libpam-smbpass is probably a good one, ya [00:31] Hah, that moosplash theme just plain doesn't work. [00:31] "No usable theme for 1024x768." [00:31] mib_4rtem2, haven't had any issues with compression myself [00:32] * cwillu installs the crack-pushers repo in the hope that maybe his intel issues will be sorted out [00:43] * DanaG is using tormod's repo for radeon. [00:45] Ugh, damned update-manager now doesn't even get to where it says no changelogs are available. [00:53] * cwillu is sad, edgers didn't fix his intel issues :( === ampelbein is now known as Ampelbein [00:59] even amber comments on bug 332945 ROFL [00:59] Launchpad bug 332945 in update-notifier "[Jaunty] Removal of Update Notifier is WRONG" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332945 [01:01] random: [01:01] http://pastebin.com/f160dd5e3 [01:01] my xvinfo. [01:02] lovely bug 243037 [01:02] Launchpad bug 243037 in firefox-3.0 "password not saved for mail.yahoo.co.jp - request to recompile with WALLET_DONT_CACHE_ALL_PASSWORDS undefined" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243037 [01:21] * cwillu hopes the update notifier doesn't come back [01:22] I hope it does. How else are average users going to know to update? [01:22] uh [01:22] average users have no idea what a star or an arrow means in the notification area [01:22] I know this, because I see average users neglecting to update their machines all the time [01:22] unless the person who installs ubuntu tells them [01:23] they don't remember, nor should they [01:23] it's an arcane detail (not as arcane as 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade', but arcane enough) [01:23] Perhaps need a different icon? [01:23] popping up the update-manager in the background is far more effective [01:23] so, shall we set up anacron schedules for automated updating? [01:24] yEAH, but at least it should friggin' UPDATE THE PACKAGE CACHE first! [01:24] Fedora uses a "star with insect" thing. [01:24] The Fedora thingy. [01:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O95xSfr8ac [01:24] because 'star with insect' is an obvious logo for 'you have new updates' :p [01:25] Well, at least for me, it makes me want to hover over it to satisfy the curiosity of "wtf is this?" [01:25] Same for the exclamation-point one. [01:25] DanaG, most people don't have that curiosity :p [01:25] But, auto-launching to show 5-WEEK-OLD updates... is useless! [01:25] Try not booting a drive for 5 weeks... and then watch the update manager auto-launch... and show OLD updates! [01:26] DanaG, there's already a daily cron job to update the repository [01:26] Didn't work for me. [01:26] Hi [01:27] DanaG, okay, but that has nothing to do with update-notifer vs popping up the update-manager [01:27] Can anyone help me , after upgrading to jaunty, the sound is no more working . [01:27] but in gdm it dose working [01:28] Every time I see that "click the notification icon", I do realize that that's a bit of an unintuitive term. [01:28] DanaG, you have /etc/cron.daily/apt? [01:29] On my current 64-bit partition, yes; lemme' dig out my 32-bit one (the one I was complaining about). [01:29] unless you're usually running in laptop-mode, or you've disabled cron, it should be updating based on the selection in software sources ('check for updates: <...>') [01:30] woah, just noticed a list of mirrors in software-sources panel. [01:30] DanaG, that's been there for like 4 releases :p [01:30] I usually manually tweak sources.list. [01:31] anyways, I'm going now, ttyal :p [01:31] I keep a local mirror (at Cal Poly), a slightly-less-local mirror (mirrors.kernel.org), and the official archive -- preferred in order listed. [01:31] Keeping all 3 lets it not get out of date from an out-of-date mirror. [01:34] grr, stupid gnome / hal don't auto-mount eSATA. [01:35] Here's the Fedora one: http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/984/screenshotpf6.png [01:37] I use the MIT Media Lab mirror. [01:37] I get like 10 MB/s from them at school. [01:38] What school do you go to? For me, it's Cal Poly, SLO. [01:40] cwillu: as stated on the devel ML NEW users can get it quite fine! [01:41] mib_4rtem2, that doesn't fit with my experience of non-technical users [01:42] mib_4rtem2, the sort of user that doesn't get viruses on windows, yes, they'll be fine. The type that does, no, they don't get it, and you're kidding yourself if you think they do [01:42] What does the OS X updater do? [01:42] Oh, it sits there and HOPS at you to DEMAND ATTENTION. [01:42] Jumping icons... whee. [01:43] DanaG, yes, but osx has a different manner of dealing with persistent apps in the first place [01:43] DanaG, it's actually not much different from our new approach, us with the slowly pulsating taskbar entry, them with the jumping icon [01:44] * cwillu reminds the channel that windows that request attention (such as an update-manager window opened in the background) do have a non-intrusive but noticable means of requesting attention [01:44] DanaG, they stole that from kde :p [01:44] Now HERE's an icon that's amusing: [01:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHdS5wr0V98&feature=related [01:45] Sergeant_Pony2: iu bug 330814 [01:45] Launchpad bug 330814 in linux "snd_pcm_avail_update() returning absurd values causes PulseAudio to abort" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330814 [01:46] Commited? Sw€€t. [01:46] * cwillu is cold :( [01:46] oops [01:46] Oh hey, they fixed that bug. Cool! [01:50] ugh, update-manager won't show changelogs. [01:50] DanaG, more patience required [01:50] It won't even show the "can't find changelog" message, either! [01:50] Downloading list of changes... [01:51] well... [01:51] you shouldn't have broken it then [01:51] =þ [01:53] DanaG: so was maco correct? is it dead? [01:54] is what dead? [01:56] apt-listchange DanaG [01:56] yes i think its broken [01:56] "apt-listchanges --apt pidgin" ran for about 6 hours and did nothing [01:57] I don't have apt-listchanges installed. [01:57] oh [01:57] I'd rather list changes before even triggering an upgrade. [01:58] mib_4rtem2: apt-listchanges is for command line [01:58] maco: do u have a bug for that? [01:58] i'm still seeing it some times [01:58] so i cant confirm it [01:58] its more like WorksForMe [01:58] DanaG: ehehe [01:58] no i dont. it worked fine when an update was running a few days ago [01:59] listchanges can STOP/abort isntall [01:59] but when i tried to call it manually, it hung for hours [01:59] and UM shows them on the bottom part [01:59] ahh [01:59] Try ctrl-backslash'ing it. [01:59] That's sigquit. [01:59] so its the manual part that its broken [02:03] mib_4rtem2: apt-listchanges and update-manager showing it on the bottom have squat to do with each other [02:04] apt-listchanges isnt part of a default install, but u-m's displaying that is a default thing [02:04] DanaG: i was able to ^C out of it [02:05] Try ctrl-\, and it'll likely core-dump. [02:05] Then you can get a stacktrace. [02:06] anyone having trouble with 3G modems with latest NM ? [02:06] going to downgrade to test it [02:26] hi everybody [02:26] hi [02:27] does anybody know, how to get tv-cards to play with fglrx? [02:28] KaiL_: I don't know about fglrx, but I know tv-out works pretty good with the open source radeon drivers [02:28] with tvtime I get about one image every 10 seconds; with zapping and xawtv a black screen :/ [02:28] ripps: but no 3D :( [02:28] oh, I see what broke my update-manager: t'was apt-zeroconf. [02:29] 3d works in radeon (depending on chip) it just isn't very fast. [02:29] anyone having problems with jaunty and mt-daapd [02:30] ? [02:33] ripps: Radeon 4670 and I need the full performance ;) [02:35] KaiL_: rv730 huh? Very new, probably little support for it, even in the proprietary driver. [02:35] eh [02:35] the proprietary driver gives exactly the same performance as on Windows ;) [02:36] performance isn't everything [02:37] crdlb: Yeah, but I don't think the open source supports rv700 chips yet. [02:37] I wouldn't be surprised if fglrx is sharing its 3d engine with the windows driver, like nvidia does [02:37] the free driver does only 2D, yes [02:38] strange, all those help pages say, that only "overlay", but not "grabdisplay" is broken [02:38] but here both doesn't work [02:38] only a *very* slow tvtime [02:39] Free driver does 3D for older cards. XD [02:41] aha... [02:41] xawtv -noxv works... [02:41] Hopefully, open source drivers will see alot better performance once gallium3D hits desktop [02:47] * DanaG has this issue: [02:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600 [02:47] Ubuntu bug 314600 in fglrx-installer "fglrx versions newer than 8.543 cause system hang and panic" [Undecided,Fix released] [02:49] do you? [02:51] can anyone test mt-daapd (aka firefly medio server) [02:51] just to see if it segfaults a few secs after startup [02:52] I just upgraded to jaunty last night, has anyone else had issues where their font sizes EXPLODED? I rebooted my machine and everything suddenly got *huge*. I suspect some DPI setting has been screwed up somewhere (As my resolution is unchanged). Also System->Preferences->Display doesn't like me anymore, says my driver doesn't support the extensions necessary to use that tool, then dumps me into nvidia-glx-settings or whatever [02:53] Ademan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HugeFonts [02:55] I've gone and set my bug back to "confirmed" [02:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600 [02:55] Ubuntu bug 314600 in fglrx-installer "fglrx versions newer than 8.543 cause system hang and panic" [Undecided,Fix released] [03:00] bastille : DB5.0' is not a supported operating system [03:05] can anyone test mt-daapd (aka firefly medio server) [03:05] just to see if it segfaults a few secs after startup? [03:06] fr500: You should really go file a bug [03:07] ripps: I'm doing that [03:07] but i have tested that just on my pc [03:09] well there ya go reported [03:20] hey calc [03:29] Hello, im using ubuntu jaunty, but i have a problem. When i try to update all go fine but in the restart it doesn't boot. I only can see a BlackScreen and a message on my screen saying that the resolution is incorrect [03:31] how do i enable ext4 in 9.04? [03:33] i have a notebook with a ATI AC97 sound card, which doesnt work good in 8.10. how good are the chances, that using the new system will work better with that sound card? [03:34] hmw: i have heard that ati is hit and miss with ubuntu [03:35] you mean, its a question of luck? [03:35] hmw: the only way is to try and see if it works [03:35] ic. thanks. [03:35] hmw: np [03:36] Not really, i have 2 pc's whit an ati hardware and all work fine for me, and in jaunty i doesn;t need to install any restricted driver for my ati hardware [03:37] another setup session... will updates make a full 9.04 version out of the alpha/beta? [03:37] (once the new ubuntu will be released, i mean) [03:37] hmw: yes [03:37] okay... thats very convenient [03:38] Well, now i have a problem while updating my jaunty. When it's updated and need to restart to apply the new's files it doesn't start any more :( [03:38] hmw: i still have the bug 304871 but i'am able to use 9.04 with no real problems, so i'll stick with it [03:38] Launchpad bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/304871 [03:39] "BO"?? [03:39] Kadko: can you try an older kernal [03:39] The same whit older kernel doesnt start [03:39] * DanaG has an R600 GPU, and gets panics when trying to use fglrx. [03:40] Thus, I'm sticking with radeon for now. [03:40] i have a similar problem where i cant boot with the newest kernal but with the older one i can [03:40] Just get a black screen whit a message box on my screen saying Invalid Resolution or disconected from the cpu [03:40] Kadko: it nevers finishes loading? [03:41] nope, the hard drive led doesn't do nothing [03:41] Kadko: you really meant _c_pu? [03:42] <|max|> What's the status of the pulseaudio problem, when will it be fixed? === |max| is now known as Starcraftmazter [03:45] sorry central processing unit [03:45] thats a weird message [03:45] i would have been able to imagine such a message regarding the gpu, but cpu?? wow. [03:45] haha [03:46] hardware problem [03:46] problem with the programmer, who wrote that text, i'd say *g* [03:46] gpu is in englush cpu is in spanish :P [03:46] is offtopic chat accepted in this channel? [03:47] it seems more relaxed in here than #ubuntu [03:47] great [03:47] and how do you say cpu in spanish, then? [03:48] * hmw grins [03:48] i cant wait until beta next thursday [03:48] i cant wait to get an ubuntu running perfectly on any of my 5 machines... [03:49] running updates meanwhile inflicts fear in me [03:50] I should run a Spanish Ubuntu one of these days. I'd understand enough to get by, but it would be interesting to see what some technical terms are in Spanish. I just don't know. [03:50] yea me too, i dont know whats going to happen next, hmw [03:50] the update issue is even worse in fedora, it seems [03:50] i just have to see what updates are being offered to see which ones i download [03:51] i agree, for 9.04, hmw [03:51] i never had any bug problems, i've been upgrading since 6.06 [03:52] well... i wouldnt be puzzled, if updating a beta changes (too) much... but its the same with 8.04 and 8.10... i have much bad luck, as it seems... i use only scrap hardware [03:53] even with the bug in 9.04, i have to say its real fast [03:55] hmw: did want to upgrade to 9.04 just to see if it works? [03:56] i hope, it will like my notebook more than the older versions, but wanted to ask about the chances before investing hours of work... well... i started the download and will see [03:56] gnome is bestially slow on all machines, i own [03:56] hmw: yea, can't give you an answer there , wish i could [03:57] even scrolling in gedit is choppy [03:57] but compiz is super fast... weird [03:57] hmw: are your machines older, or have enough memory? [03:57] older: yes, memory: good (1gb+) [03:58] notebook: 2.6 GHz, 500K cache, up to 350MB shared video [03:58] hmw: i have dell optiplex gx-150 512mb [03:58] 1gz [03:58] even on a 800MHz machine with a 256MB gpu, compiz was good enough to be used [03:58] hmw: i want a notebook so bad [03:58] but its gnome, which is driving me insane [03:58] wow [03:59] hmw: i dont have 3d rendering so i cant run compiz [03:59] well, i wonder, why in my expirience, XP is 3 times faster on the screen, and people keep telling me, i must have done something wrong... 5 different pcs and some friends reporting the same. but i know, there are machines, where gnome just is fast [04:00] GNOME is plenty snappy here. [04:00] might it be the small cache of celerons? [04:00] SeveredCross: gnome is fast for me too [04:00] Even w/ Compiz. [04:00] I've tried compiz on an X300SE on a P4, and it was slow as all hell. [04:00] gnome was the first reason for me tho consider trying the alpha [04:00] GNOME 2.26 is nice. [04:01] And notify-osd is great. [04:01] Yet, triggering "benchmark" made it go to 60fps. [04:01] the menus in 9.04 are snappy [04:01] Then opening gnome-terminal dropped it to around 1.5FPS. [04:01] Oh, and triggering water... brought it down to 0.6 FPS. Yes, zero point six. [04:01] nice thing about compiz is, that i dont feel a difference compared to the performance without it [04:02] wow DanaG [04:02] compiz is just amazing on a high specs computer, my friend has it [04:02] as said, compiz on 800MHz celeron, 512MB RAM, some 256MB gpu = too cool... no way to do it with vista [04:02] compiz provides a nice performance boost on my 32MB radeon 7500M [04:03] especially with the fading and sliding effects all off [04:03] crdlb: i need to buy a new computer,lol [04:03] and i need to find better scrap pcs lol [04:03] haha [04:04] i want to be paid for supporting in #ubuntu... would be sort of my dream job [04:04] ok ppl got to go, nice chatting with ya [04:04] bye [04:24] annyoying last sound for a second time [04:24] lost [04:25] in Banshee === Ampelbein is now known as ampelbein [04:31] * DanaG changes nickname to "damned_fglrx" [04:31] ... or maybe not. [04:32] fglrx should be banned. [04:32] i had 40 hours of incredible fun with it *g* [04:32] /nick fglrxing_fglrx [04:32] LOL [04:33] what's fglrx? [04:34] proprietary ATI driver: FireGL and Radeon X driver [04:34] sebsebseb: you dont want to know, really. [04:34] For me, it just panics. [04:34] hmw: sound worked great for me in 8.10. it didn't for other people though. and now with this 9.04 alpha6 I get sound issues? heh [04:35] sebsebseb: oh my [04:36] that's twice I lost sound in Banshee when trying to listen to music :(. first time ran some alsa commands and yeah that didn't seem to do any good, but hten it worked later, after being in graphical thing. ,but after doing graphical stuff that I think I did before no good [04:36] guess, we will have some more years, until the Linuxes get to a certain level, we all have in mind... i only hope, that they wont imworseprove gnome to its death [04:36] hmw: if I get anything like this in the final with sound, I will distro change, sound is very important for me to have on computer, considering I also use it as my music player [04:36] hmw: I mean anything that can't just be fixed in final [04:37] hmw: to do with sound [04:37] same here... i dont have any hifi hardware besides my pc [04:37] nor any tv set, too [04:37] my stero is there but it's old, and I think the CD player is basically broken, plus now most of my music in MP3 [04:37] and i feel a need for having a linux system on my workstation asap [04:37] hmw: log out and hope sound works???? or is there a better way hummmm [04:38] i must not move the mouse, when watching a vid... [04:38] and even then it can stop suddenly (POLLERR something) [04:38] hmm, that's probably pulseaudio aborting. [04:39] pulseuadio is shit [04:39] soem things seem to say I am using alsa, but maybe I am not [04:39] DanaG: pulseaudio pft, that's been issues for Ubuntu users since hardy [04:40] i have no knownledge about how sound works in linux. i read a forum post suggesting to remove pulse, which i did, but no luck. apps, btw, kept working, and afaik i configured them all to use alsa... so i think, pulse should not be involved... am i wrong? [04:40] hmw: I wonder if I even configured for it all to use alsa [04:41] I feel deaf, no music! [04:41] i imagine, if my apps use alsa, pulse should stay asleep, is that so? or is there something in the background, runnint alsa through pulse? [04:42] s/runnint/running [04:43] hmw: Yes. We run alsa apps through pulse. [04:43] oh... but how could my sound keep working (partially), when i apt-get removed pulseaudio? [04:43] 66 updates [04:44] Because then you don't have pulseaudio running, so the ALSA -> pulse bridge isn't used. [04:44] ah! [04:45] can you tell me some good linux/sound text books, online preferred? i mean some really basic stuff for programmers [04:45] basic... i mean... uhm... near to the system/hardware [04:48] hmw: lennart po...ing (the pulseaudio guy) has a pretty good overview of what's out there. Particularly the "safe ALSA API". [04:48] noted. thanks! [04:58] sebsebseb seemingly lost more than just sound... [05:00] damned nvidia 96... segfaults xorg. [05:01] And unlike radeon, nouveau.... absolutely HAMMERS both CPU and hard drive. [05:20] oh... still the old desktop background?? [05:24] huh? my empty partition has used 322MBytes. [05:25] That Lost and Found folder? [05:25] Where can I find a 32-bit libwnck22? [05:25] * RAOF would guess packages.ubuntu.com [05:25] For some reason, there's only a 64-bit version. :( [05:25] halow: the only thing on that partition... i never used it since i got the hard drive. isnt that strange? [05:26] hi there [05:26] hmw: It is. I've wondered at it myself. Then I started messing with everything else and quickly forgot. ;) [05:27] does anyone here know about using cinelerra in jaunty alpha 6??? [05:29] Sorry. Not me. [05:30] ok [05:31] the new installer is cool because of the fullscreen mode and the new time zone selector, but its overal gotten worse... slower and it doesnt show to which partition i am going to install in step 8 (since i decided not to format it) [05:34] The new time zone thing is quite messed up, I read. [05:34]