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| cowbellemoo | Hi, hi! Can anyone recommend a print book for learning source management, compilation, and package creation in ubuntu? | 00:57 |
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| RAOF | Any #motu-release here? I'd like some feedback/acks on a standing freeze exception for the 2 nouveau packages. | 05:29 |
| RAOF | It's bug #346621 for those playing at home. | 05:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 346621 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau "Standing FF exception for nouveau-kernel-source, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346621 | 05:34 |
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| RenatoKrause | Good night. | 06:36 |
| RenatoKrause | Can i help to fix bugs? | 06:37 |
| dtchen | RenatoKrause: absolutely | 06:40 |
| hyperair | RenatoKrause: sure, go to http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and see what interests you | 06:41 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: i was reading many pages in international wiki. | 06:41 |
| hyperair | i see. and? | 06:41 |
| RenatoKrause | First people, sorry my bad english. I'm brazilian | 06:41 |
| hyperair | well there are people from all over the place | 06:42 |
| hyperair | i'm asian for example | 06:42 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: :D | 06:42 |
| RenatoKrause | i need help to begin help | 06:42 |
| hyperair | what help do you need? | 06:42 |
| RenatoKrause | im developer of comercial software a 12 years | 06:42 |
| hyperair | ooh | 06:42 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: im new and free software comunity | 06:43 |
| hyperair | that doesn't matter, contributions are always welcome ;) | 06:43 |
| RenatoKrause | im woking with ubuntu servers. im contribute with translate and documentation but i think i help with computer codes. | 06:44 |
| RenatoKrause | can i filter bugs by language? | 06:44 |
| hyperair | language huh... | 06:45 |
| hyperair | i'm not sure | 06:45 |
| RenatoKrause | python, c++, etc? | 06:45 |
| hyperair | i'm not sure | 06:45 |
| hyperair | the general rule is pick a project you're intersted in | 06:45 |
| hyperair | and the project's generally written in a certain language | 06:45 |
| hyperair | like exaile in python, rhythmbox in C, banshee in C# | 06:45 |
| hyperair | and so on | 06:45 |
| RenatoKrause | i work with c# | 06:46 |
| RenatoKrause | what is banshee? | 06:46 |
| hyperair | it's a media player | 06:46 |
| hyperair | i maintain co-maintain the package for banshee in debian, and have recently worked on it in ubuntu, though i'm not very good with C# | 06:46 |
| hyperair | the stuff i can actually patch is C and C++ | 06:47 |
| RenatoKrause | i search and look many packages but not found. im look for c# for server. | 06:55 |
| hyperair | C# on server? | 06:56 |
| hyperair | i haven't heard of many C# apps which are supposed to run on servers =\ | 06:56 |
| hyperair | mostly desktop apps | 06:56 |
| RenatoKrause | python in servers? | 06:57 |
| hyperair | well... | 06:58 |
| hyperair | i don't really know | 06:58 |
| hyperair | aside from some random scripts that is | 06:58 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: can i make a package with a software that dont have .deb? | 07:05 |
| RenatoKrause | this help the comunity?? | 07:05 |
| hyperair | RenatoKrause: sure it will] | 07:06 |
| RenatoKrause | i remember the network monitor i used in Slackware. | 07:06 |
| RenatoKrause | and it not in Ubuntu | 07:07 |
| hyperair | but currently feature freeze is on, so if you package something new, it won't get in until after the release of jaunty | 07:07 |
| hyperair | what network monitor is that? | 07:07 |
| RenatoKrause | http://www.paganini.net/index.cgi/angel/angel.html | 07:07 |
| hyperair | cool stuff | 07:08 |
| RenatoKrause | what a i need do after create and test the package? | 07:10 |
| hyperair | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 07:12 |
| hyperair | after creating and testing the package? | 07:12 |
| hyperair | upload to REVU | 07:12 |
| hyperair | and ask for MOTUs to review your work | 07:12 |
| hyperair | once two give advocates, it'll be uploaded | 07:12 |
| hyperair | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 07:12 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: very thanks man. | 07:14 |
| hyperair | no problem =) | 07:14 |
| RenatoKrause | you live in the beatiful place of planet. :D | 07:14 |
| hyperair | haha i'm sure there are many more beautiful places around | 07:15 |
| RenatoKrause | :D | 07:17 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: if the .deb exists in developer page? | 07:28 |
| hyperair | RenatoKrause: often, upstream deb packages are not accepted into ubuntu archives. you need to generate source packages which will be uploaded to ubuntu and built there | 07:29 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: thanks ;] | 07:29 |
| hyperair | no problem | 07:30 |
| RenatoKrause | * Initial release (Closes: #nnnn) <nnnn is the bug number of your ITP> | 08:17 |
| RenatoKrause | What is ITP? | 08:17 |
| RenatoKrause | hyperair: you know? | 08:17 |
| StevenK | Intent To Package, a Debian-ism | 08:19 |
| RenatoKrause | dont understand yet | 08:21 |
| StevenK | It is a bug filed in Debian's bug tracking system that you intend to package <software>, so the initial upload should close that bug. | 08:22 |
| RenatoKrause | ;]. i understand now. | 08:24 |
| RenatoKrause | :D | 08:24 |
| RenatoKrause | thanks | 08:24 |
| hyperair | RenatoKrause: if you submit your package to debian, you need to file an itp. if you submit your package to ubuntu but not debian you need to file a needs-packaging bug | 08:25 |
| RenatoKrause | i must create a bug with need and after put in the changelog file, it is? | 08:27 |
| hyperair | RenatoKrause: yes | 08:55 |
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| dlynch | is this the right place to ask about package naming? I'm going through the process of making my first package for my ppa | 11:10 |
| RAOF | Yes. It's late on a Sunday for some people, so there might not be much response though. | 11:12 |
| dominiks | dlynch: www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Package - Debian Policy is the best source :) | 11:17 |
| dlynch | my question is actually very simple.... I'm packaging my own code, and I want to package a beta version 0.0.8 beta 1 | 11:18 |
| dlynch | should I name it something like 0.0.8b1 or 0.0.7.5? | 11:19 |
| dlynch | I don't know what the best practice is | 11:19 |
| Laney | 0.0.8~b1 or 0.0.7.5, as you wish | 11:19 |
| hyperair | what's the upstream version? | 11:19 |
| toabctl | hi all | 11:20 |
| toabctl | how can i get a source-package (apt-get source package) from jaunty when i use intrepid? | 11:20 |
| dlynch | hyperair: it's the upstream version I'm talking about, sorry I didn't make that clear | 11:20 |
| hyperair | dlynch: ah you're the upstream author? | 11:20 |
| dlynch | hyperair: yes | 11:20 |
| hyperair | toabctl: add the deb-src line for jaunty, then apt-get source bla | 11:20 |
| dlynch | and this is the first time I've had to think about packaging, so it's all new :) | 11:21 |
| toabctl | hyperair, is there no other was? maybe with dget? | 11:21 |
| hyperair | toabctl: there is | 11:21 |
| hyperair | toabctl: you head to packages.ubuntu.com, search for the dsc you want, and then dget it | 11:21 |
| toabctl | hyperair, ah. thanks | 11:22 |
| hyperair | toabctl: =) | 11:22 |
| hyperair | toabctl: if you're feeling lazy, just use pbuilder-jaunty login | 11:22 |
| hyperair | and then apt-get source | 11:22 |
| Laney | or pull-lp-source pkgname | 11:22 |
| hyperair | eh? | 11:22 |
| dlynch | dominiks: thanks for that link! I hadn't see that one yet | 11:22 |
| Laney | what? | 11:22 |
| hyperair | cool | 11:23 |
| hyperair | i never knew it existed | 11:23 |
| toabctl | Laney, pull-lp-source? with bzr? | 11:23 |
| Laney | no | 11:23 |
| hyperair | toabctl: no it uses dget | 11:23 |
| Laney | it's in ubuntu-dev-tools | 11:23 |
| hyperair | hyperair@hyperair-laptop:/tmp$ pull-lp-source notify-osd | 11:23 |
| hyperair | Attempting to get notify-osd from release Jaunty... | 11:24 |
| hyperair | dget: retrieving https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/notify-osd/0.9.6-0ubuntu2/+files/notify-osd_0.9.6-0ubuntu2.dsc | 11:24 |
| hyperair | cool stuff | 11:24 |
| hyperair | thanks laney =p | 11:24 |
| dominiks | dlynch: np.. you should read Debian Policy first.. before trying to make your first package.. good luck :) | 11:24 |
| toabctl | hyperair, pull-lp-source notify-osd jaunty is the command to get the source from jaunty if you use intrepid | 11:24 |
| toabctl | hyperair, Laney thanks! | 11:25 |
| hyperair | toabctl: yes, i was just showing you the first few lines to show you what it does | 11:25 |
| hyperair | i think it defaults to using the latest release | 11:25 |
| hyperair | i'm on intrepid | 11:25 |
| dlynch | dominiks: what do you mean? ;-) this packaging is plenty overwhelming enough: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python | 11:26 |
| dlynch | and now you're giving me more work hehehe | 11:26 |
| toabctl | hyperair, for me, not. see: pull-lp-source python-django-registration | 11:26 |
| toabctl | Unable to find source package 'python-django-registration' in the Intrepid release. | 11:26 |
| hyperair | works for me | 11:26 |
| toabctl | hyperair, maybe you have the jaunty-url in your sources.list | 11:27 |
| geser | toabctl: try adding "jaunty" as an additional parameter | 11:27 |
| dominiks | dlynch: Debian Policy is boring i know.. but important :) | 11:27 |
| toabctl | geser, yes. i already tried. it works fine. thanks | 11:28 |
| dlynch | dominiks: yes, I guess it's one of the keys to their success | 11:28 |
| dominiks | dlynch: well.. i'm gonna reinstall my system.. cya later and good luck packaging :) | 11:31 |
| dlynch | dominiks: thanks again and good luck to you too | 11:31 |
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| goshawk | hi RainCT | 13:46 |
| AnAnt | Hello, how in a pbuilder login, can I fetch dependencies for building a package ? Is there a single command to parse the debian/control and fetches those packages ? | 14:02 |
| RainCT | AnAnt: AnAnt /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends | 14:05 |
| RainCT | Hi goshawk | 14:05 |
| AnAnt | RainCT: no such file or directory, note I am running from a pbuilder login session | 14:06 |
| RainCT | AnAnt: not sure where it has it then, but that's the script it uses | 14:06 |
| geser | the script is outside the pbuilder-login | 14:14 |
| geser | so you need to copy it inside yourself (or install the pbuilder package inside pbuilder) | 14:14 |
| AnAnt | okm I done this: apt-get install $(grep Build-Depends debian/control | sed -e "s/.*:// ; s/,/ /g ; s/([^)]*)//g") | 14:14 |
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| * sebner winks geser :D | 14:15 | |
| geser | AnAnt: this will work unless you get to B-D alternatives | 14:15 |
| * geser waves back at sebner | 14:15 | |
| * geser points sebner to http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&search=wink | 14:17 | |
| sebner | *lol* | 14:17 |
| sebner | geser: what a shame. thx for the hint | 14:18 |
| joaopinto | I want to fix a package which is working on the latest Debian version but not on Jaunty's, it should be a 4 lines diff, what is the process ? | 14:21 |
| joaopinto | to close bug 346772 | 14:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 346772 in bouncy "application does not start, python error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346772 | 14:21 |
| sebner | joaopinto: add a debdiff and subscribe u-u-s? | 14:22 |
| joaopinto | never did it, let's try :P | 14:23 |
| sebner | heh | 14:24 |
| sebner | joaopinto: don't forget to add a changelog entry | 14:24 |
| joaopinto | I need to check some example, for the Close LP thingy | 14:24 |
| Laney | joaopinto: Why don't we sync it? | 14:25 |
| joaopinto | tell me :) I am asking ;) | 14:26 |
| Laney | you tested the Debian package? | 14:26 |
| Laney | by rebuilding it on Jaunty | 14:26 |
| joaopinto | if there are no ubuntu patches, synch should be easier ? | 14:26 |
| joaopinto | Laney, not rebuilgint yet, because it's python I have only tested the binary package | 14:27 |
| Laney | ok well if you try building it | 14:27 |
| geser | is the patch in the Debian package? | 14:27 |
| Laney | yes | 14:27 |
| joaopinto | yes | 14:27 |
| Laney | there is no problem syncing as the new Debian release only contains bugfixes (and minor packaging changes) | 14:28 |
| Laney | so if it works, go ahead and do that | 14:28 |
| joaopinto | so I should use a sync requst ? | 14:29 |
| sebner | joaopinto: yes | 14:29 |
| sebner | joaopinto: but testbuilding would be recommended | 14:29 |
| joaopinto | I am testbuilding | 14:29 |
| Laney | required(!) | 14:29 |
| sebner | Laney: the same for me :P | 14:29 |
| joaopinto | I need a FFe ? | 14:32 |
| joaopinto | janito@janito-desktop:~/getdeb$ requestsync | 14:34 |
| joaopinto | File "/usr/bin/requestsync", line 489 | 14:34 |
| joaopinto | requestsync is broken :P | 14:34 |
| Laney | GETDEB? | 14:35 |
| Laney | what's the full error? | 14:35 |
| joaopinto | Laney, what's your problem with GETDEB ? | 14:36 |
| joaopinto | is it part of the bug :) ? | 14:37 |
| joaopinto | Laney, you can check 346794 | 14:38 |
| joaopinto | ops, bug 346794 | 14:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 346794 in ubuntu-dev-tools "SyntaxError: EOL while scanning string literal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346794 | 14:38 |
| Laney | nice | 14:38 |
| joaopinto | some missed the " :P | 14:40 |
| Laney | I pushed it to lp:ubuntu-dev-tools | 14:41 |
| Laney | you can branch it with bzr | 14:41 |
| Laney | ...when it finishes | 14:42 |
| joaopinto | I did a manual fix, tks | 14:42 |
| joaopinto | Laney, I have filed the request using the tool, it created the bug 346800, is anything else needed on my part ? | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 346800 in bouncy "Sync bouncy 0.6.20071104-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346800 | 14:56 |
| Laney | dupe your old bug to that one | 14:56 |
| Laney | it would have been nice if you said what the point of the sync was | 14:56 |
| joaopinto | ok, done | 14:56 |
| joaopinto | Laney, i'll add it to the comments, | 14:57 |
| joaopinto | done | 14:58 |
| Laney | thanks | 14:58 |
| Laney | someone will get to it soon | 14:58 |
| * Laney -> town | 15:01 | |
| joaopinto | who should I ask to set a bug importance to High ? | 15:04 |
| geser | importance has no real meaning on sync requests | 15:06 |
| joaopinto | geser, it's for another bug | 15:06 |
| joaopinto | for bug 344500 | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 344500 in alarm-clock "alarm-clock applet blocks X event handling and screen refreshing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344500 | 15:07 |
| joaopinto | hum, regarding the sync bug priority, shouldn't syncs which fix high importance bugs have higher priority ? | 15:09 |
| geser | joaopinto: AFAIR the archive admin don't look at the bug importance when processing syncs, so it's useless to change it | 15:22 |
| joaopinto | geser, don't we have priority in place for bug fixes in general ? Why are syncs managed differently ? | 15:23 |
| geser | joaopinto: sync request aren't "real" bugs but as with have no better place for this kind of requests we use bugs for it | 15:25 |
| joaopinto | I have a "real" bug for this, which motivates the sync, now set to duplicate | 15:26 |
| sebner | joaopinto: sync request acked | 15:26 |
| joaopinto | sebner, tks | 15:26 |
| sebner | your're welcome | 15:26 |
| sebner | *you | 15:26 |
| jpds | Laney: Did you upload the u-d-t push you did? | 16:55 |
| jpds | Laney: You might want to (LP: ####) and entry to. | 16:55 |
| jpds | Oh, you did. | 16:58 |
| joaopinto | anyone experienced with reprepro ? | 17:54 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi. What is the status of Bug #345263 and roundcube? It seems that there had been a lot of exchange on the 19th, but then, nothing | 18:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345263 in ubuntu "Sync php-mdb2 2.4.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345263 | 18:20 |
| Laney | needs a second ack | 18:23 |
| fabrice_sp_ | Laney, ok. So nothing new, then. | 18:26 |
| YokoZar | Good morning channel | 18:56 |
| directhex | evenin' scott | 18:57 |
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| porthose | ScottK: would you consider Bug #338408 an SRU candidate? | 21:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 338408 in coherence "FFe for python-coherence" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338408 | 21:19 |
| lukjad007 | Hi | 21:30 |
| jpds | Hello lukjad007. | 21:30 |
| lukjad007 | I was wondering, is there any chance of getting Wesnoth 1.6 in with Jaunty? | 21:31 |
| lukjad007 | http://www.wesnoth.org/start/1.6/ | 21:31 |
| jpds | We're into Beta Freeze right now, and upstream says: "many new features". | 21:32 |
| pochu | persia was working on it I think | 21:33 |
| pochu | jpds: IME we want it | 21:33 |
| jpds | pochu: Oh right. | 21:33 |
| pochu | persia: were you going to ask for a FFe for Wesnoth 1.6? | 21:33 |
| directhex | IMHO games should be generally FFe-friendly | 21:33 |
| directhex | a dist with an old game becomes useless if it has multiplayer components | 21:34 |
| lukjad007 | directhex, And this also creates maps. So, you can't distribute maps in the older version | 21:35 |
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| ScottK | porthose: I'd say not, but I'm not in motu-sru, so who knows . | 21:55 |
| nhandler | scottk: Could you take a look at Bug #333639 ? james_w appears to be on vacation | 21:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 333639 in wxbanker "Please update wxbanker to 0.4.1.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333639 | 21:59 |
| porthose | ScottK: my bad, I thought you where | 22:00 |
| nhandler | scottk: I want to get your opinion on having wxbanker as a native package | 22:00 |
| ScottK | nhandler: It'd be better not, but I don't think it's a big deal. | 22:01 |
| ScottK | It gets done by accident pretty routinely. | 22:01 |
| nhandler | scottk: Ok. I just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't just get rejected by ubuntu-archive if I uploaded it | 22:02 |
| dtchen | hyperair: Package banshee version 1.4.3-3~hyper1+hardy1 has an unmet dep: Depends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good (>= 0.10.8-4) | 22:03 |
| dtchen | hyperair: do you plan to backport that one, too? | 22:03 |
| ScottK | At this point, unless it goes to New, they won't even look at it. | 22:03 |
| hyperair | dtchen: yeah i noticed. i will. | 22:03 |
| dtchen | hyperair: ok, thanks. | 22:03 |
| hyperair | dtchen: you were using the previous version of banshee right? | 22:06 |
| hyperair | dtchen: as in 1.4.3-1~blah | 22:07 |
| hyperair | dtchen: did it have any issues? | 22:07 |
| dtchen | *** 1.4.3-1~hardy1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 22:07 |
| hyperair | dtchen: if it didn't i can look into lowering the dependency | 22:07 |
| dtchen | 1.4.3-1~hardy1 is fine here. | 22:07 |
| hyperair | aah right. now i know why. | 22:08 |
| hyperair | looks like i can't do no change backports | 22:09 |
| hyperair | the equalizer | 22:09 |
| hyperair | your version of gstreamer doesn't have a good equalizer | 22:09 |
| dtchen | right. (not a problem, since i pretty much use RB for everything except last.fm intregration) | 22:12 |
| hyperair | heh i see | 22:14 |
| hyperair | why not banshee? | 22:14 |
| * RainCT has just (ie, 2 minutes ago) switched from RB to Banshee :) | 22:17 | |
| dtchen | reliance on taglib, which results in quite a few media not being imported with tags. i have to go back and forcibly write metadata. | 22:17 |
| dtchen | the answer is "tag your media properly". well, that would be great if the original media were tagged properly (e.g., i purchase quite a bit from amazonmp3) | 22:18 |
| hyperair | hmm? | 22:19 |
| hyperair | RainCT: awesome =p | 22:19 |
| hyperair | dtchen: imported without tags? and rb does it correctly? | 22:20 |
| dtchen | hyperair: correct | 22:20 |
| hyperair | how? guessing from filenames? | 22:20 |
| dtchen | err, it shouldn't be guessing from filenames | 22:21 |
| dtchen | i suspect it's different id3 versions | 22:21 |
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