[01:37] <HammerHead66> hello everyone
[02:03] <boredandblogging> HammerHead66: hello
[02:18] <HammerHead66> what are you up to bored
[02:18] <HammerHead66> any good news on the net?
[02:22] <HammerHead66> http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/video/ check out Body builder it's great
[02:22] <HammerHead66> "Body Builder" Viedo sorry
[02:23] <johnc4510> HammerHead66: evening
[02:23] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: hi bud
[02:23] <HammerHead66> hello
[02:23] <johnc4510> :)
[02:24] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: any write up of the GA meetup yet?
[02:24] <johnc4510> lol
[02:24] <HammerHead66> john are u watching it?
[02:24] <johnc4510> HammerHead66: ?
[02:24] <johnc4510> are you streaming it?
[02:25] <HammerHead66> no it's on wired
[02:25] <johnc4510> link?
[02:25] <HammerHead66> when you click the link a video will pop up to play but right below that there is a video called Body Builder click and watch it
[02:26] <HammerHead66> they are making body parts
[02:26] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: hey
[02:27] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: prolly will just stick it in the Team Reports later on
[02:27] <HammerHead66> they are even making them with an HP printer
[02:27] <HammerHead66> lol
[02:27] <johnc4510> boredandblogging: k
[02:27] <johnc4510> HammerHead66: lol
[02:30] <HammerHead66> you like it?
[02:30] <johnc4510> nods
[02:31] <HammerHead66> next level stuff for doctors
[03:17] <HammerHead66> anyone seen the car that gets 100 mpg?
[14:06] <johnc4510> morning
[14:06] <Tumie> morning ? :|
[14:06] <Tumie> :p
[14:07] <johnc4510> :)
[14:09] <Tumie> johnc4510: in the dutch loco team we are talking about our idea, to start a dutch Ubuntu Shop.. is this possible, or is this just illegal ?
[14:11] <johnc4510> are you talking about Ubuntu branded merchandize, or a shop for the dutch that has like your dutch loco logo on it?
[14:12] <Tumie> Ubuntu branded merchandize..
[14:12] <Tumie> like t-shirts, mugs, usb-sticks, etc.
[14:13] <johnc4510> you'll have to get that ok'd. they prefer you go thru the regular Ubuntu shop for it.
[14:14] <Tumie> yes, but it is an expensive shop, we can better start our own here, so people will buy faster, and that is better for bug #1
[14:16] <johnc4510> i understand, i'm just relaying policy about the way canonical handles this.
[14:16] <Tumie> so, we need permission from canonical ?
[14:16] <johnc4510> yes
[14:16] <Tumie> ok, i will say it to the rest of the team :)
[14:17] <johnc4510> we wanted the same thing in the USA, but they denied us.
[14:17] <Tumie> but their is an USA shop..
[14:17] <johnc4510> they were nice enough to then start the USA shop
[14:18] <johnc4510> it's canonical's USA shop
[14:18] <johnc4510> not ours
[14:18] <Tumie> and, if we put our dutch loco logo on it, is that possible ?
[14:19] <johnc4510> if it's your dutch logo only, yeah. we have a shop for the Arizona team with it's logo on it.
[14:19] <Tumie> can i have a look on it ?
[14:20] <johnc4510> hang on
[14:20] <johnc4510> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntu_arizona/
[14:22] <Tumie> nice
[14:22] <Tumie> but, you use the ubuntu logo for marketing, isn't that illegal ?
[14:22] <johnc4510> thanks
[14:22] <johnc4510> no, our logo was approved
[14:23] <Tumie> how to approve that ?
[14:23] <johnc4510> through canonical
[14:23] <Tumie> ok
[14:24] <Tumie> ty for all the information, i said it to the dutch team, so they won't start an illegal shop :p
[14:24] <johnc4510> ok
[15:02] <tyche> LoCo News is up.  Starting "New in Jaunty Jackalope"
[15:08] <johnc4510> k
[15:08] <johnc4510> meeting summaries, rgreening interview, and ubuntu podcast #22 are up too.
[15:10] <johnc4510> tyche: is jeff doing the upcoming meetings section this wk.?
[15:11] <tyche> As far as I know.  I haven't heard anything different.
[15:11] <johnc4510> starting on the last "Planet" summary
[15:11] <johnc4510> k
[15:11] <johnc4510> thx
[15:16] <tyche> New in Jaunty is up
[15:16] <johnc4510> k thx
[15:16] <johnc4510> :)
[15:17] <tyche> What else do you want me to cover?
[15:18] <johnc4510> the other two planet summaries would be great tyche
[15:18] <johnc4510> thx
[15:18] <tyche> kk
[15:20] <johnc4510> i'm going to start at the top and work down for revisions
[15:29] <kennymc0> first itb summary is up
[15:54] <johnc4510> k
[15:54] <johnc4510> thx kennymc0
[16:23] <johnc4510> hard to believe, there was no new launchpad blog news this wk
[16:24] <johnc4510> that hardly ever happens
[17:29] <johnc4510> ok, folks we're getting close
[17:30] <johnc4510> proofing still needed
[17:30] <johnc4510> :)
[18:00] <johnc4510> great job UWN team!
[18:23] <sayakb> johnc4510: did you read the brainstorm top 5 idea?
[18:25] <tyche> sayakb: I think johnc4510 is laying down.  He had a bad night, last night.
[18:26] <sayakb> tyche: aah
[18:26] <sayakb> tyche: what do you think about that mail?
[18:26] <tyche> I saw your suggestion, and I don't think it's bad.  But Brainstorm may have to revise their page for us to be able to do it.
[18:27] <sayakb> it wasnt my suggestion ;)
[18:27] <tyche> As it stands, I don't see a link to the suggestions.
[18:27] <sayakb> I am just a brainstorm creature who got excited after seeing UB stuff on the ML :D
[18:27] <tyche> Ah.  Yes, you're right.  That's what happens when one glosses over where an email is from
[18:28] <sayakb> I thought if the team likes, I'll post the brainstorm news..
[18:28] <tyche> Well, I'm looking at the Brainstorm site right now, and I'd have to admit that I have NO idea where the UWN crew is getting the information.  This was added AFTER I was doing that part of the UWN.
[18:30] <sayakb> I can help with the top 5 links from brainstorm.. but the question is, where does it go?
[18:30] <sayakb> UWN, or a separate post?
[18:31] <tyche> Well, I can give you a tentative answer, but I'm only an editor, not the Chief Editor (which would be johnc4510
[18:31] <sayakb> ah.. I too just joined the editor's team, so I'd slowly get to know who's who :)
[18:32] <tyche> If you wanted to add it to the UWN on, like, saturday night or sunday morning (that's AZ time, or UTC -7) that would be fine.  Of course, add your name at the bottom of the UWN to show that you're a contributor.
[18:32] <sayakb> sounds good
[18:33] <tyche> Gee!  Then we'd have TWO people that aren't members of the AZ LoCo involved in the UWN.  LOL
[18:33] <sayakb> :D
[18:33] <sayakb> where do the UWN drafts go before being released?
[18:34] <tyche> In the UWN page for the next week.  You can tell, because it'll say "WORK IN PROGRESS" right under the graphic.
[18:34] <tyche> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue134 for an example.
[18:35] <sayakb> tyche: ta.. looking at it
[18:35] <tyche> And when Sunday morning rolls around, it's like a feeding frenzy watching all of us dive in and out, working on it.
[18:35] <tyche> Bring your sense of humor.  We get a little crazy.
[18:36] <sayakb> heh
[18:37] <tyche> You're apt to see bad puns and what appears to be people tearing eachother down in the IRC channel.  But it's all "no harm, no foul" type kidding around.
[18:38] <sayakb> that sounds pretty cool!
[18:39] <tyche> Oh, it's wild.  But we get a lot of serious work done in the process.  And tensions that COULD accumulate are bled off pretty easily that way.
[18:40] <sayakb> sunday mornings here at my university is usually a criket match with beer cans :)
[18:40] <tyche> Seriously, I like the idea.  And if you're serious about implementing it talk to or email johnc4510 about it.  You can add that I think it's a good idea.
[18:40] <sayakb> s/are
[18:41] <sayakb> sounds like a plan
[18:41] <tyche> I think he'll agree that it's good, and tell you to go ahead.
[18:43] <tyche> Isabelle Duchatelle does much the same sort of thing for the Forums news.
[18:44] <sayakb> super! I definitely need something consistent to write about ;)
[18:45] <tyche> Well, the UWN has been growing ever since I got involved.  Nick did a lot toward that, and johnc4510 is continuing the tradition.
[18:45] <sayakb> yes, ofcourse. I see his posts now and then on puc
[18:46] <tyche> Besides, we like to see new people and get better information.  We already know that the UWN is WIDELY read, including by sabdfl
[18:48] <tyche> We've even gotten emails from "the boss" expressing his appreciation.
[18:48] <tyche> :-D
[18:51] <sayakb> whao! thats awesome :D
[18:51] <sayakb> plus, more than 2 years of publishing definitely has good outcomes :)
[18:54] <tyche> Yep.  We may  be amateurs, but we try to put out a professional product.  EVERYBODY gets involved with proofing it.  And about 90% of us are trained to be able to pick up if somebody is out for a week or forever.  We've just gotten an influx of people, which actually makes things easier.
[18:55] <tyche> And, though it doesn't mean anything to you and your status, we've managed to "fast track" at least 3 people into Ubuntu membership because of the UWN.  Me included.
[18:57] <sayakb> that's nice! UWN definitely involves a lot of tiresome yet equally enjoyable job that would clearly entitle an individual for membership
[18:57] <sayakb> it's not just writing, but also knowing the community, and that's really amazing
[18:58] <tyche> Yep.  The sort of thing that isn't glamorous, but it serves an important function.  And it CAN be tedious.  That's why we let off steam by kidding with eachother.  It defuses the tension of hitting a deadline.
[19:00] <tyche> Plus, the AZ LoCo is a bit crazy anyway (read "loco", hee hee).  And with the number of members we've got involved in it, now, it's just second nature to cut up a bit.
[19:00] <sayakb> tyche: OT: fridge/uwn doesnt acomodate any non ubuntu news I guess?
[19:00] <sayakb> say, KDE news?
[19:00] <sayakb> like I often drop in KDE forum stuff on the planet..
[19:01] <sayakb> but should I be sticking strictly to *buntu articles for the fridge?
[19:02] <tyche> As far as I'm concerned, Ubuntu is an umbrella term as well as being a specific distribution.  In other words, Kubuntu and Xubuntu are as much a part of Ubuntu as anything.  If it involves one of the distributions that we deal with then it should be included.
[19:03] <sayakb> it doesn't actually
[19:03] <tyche> HOWEVER, if it's something specific to KDE or XFCE, then it wouldn't.
[19:03] <sayakb> I have a news ready, but I am not sure whether it should fit or not
[19:03] <tyche> We do have to draw the line somewhere, but that line is a bit fuzzy.
[19:03] <sayakb> ah.. clearer..
[19:03] <sayakb> agree
[19:04] <tyche> johnc4510 or nick would be the best people to vet something that you weren't sure about.
[19:04] <tyche> I'm still learning the business.
[19:04] <sayakb> okay!
[19:04] <tyche> Heck, I still ask johnc4510 about whether or not to include a link in the UWN.
[19:05] <sayakb> :D
[19:05] <tyche> Sometimes he says yes.  Sometimes he says no.  Either way, I'm not put out by it, because the end result is to put out a good product.
[19:12] <tyche> BTW, sayakb.  To introduce myself, see https://launchpad.net/~tyche
[21:47] <johnc4510> The New edition of the UWN #134 is now available:
[21:47] <johnc4510> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue134