/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/03/22/#ubuntu-ops.txt

=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
reduzwhat's this? why am i being sent here? i don't understand all this broken dcc stuff00:00
bazhangLjL, cobalt being justified? not really as just moments before ikanobori was really way worse and he said nary a peep.00:04
bazhangaubade was just being , well, a bit too frank00:04
reduzi can't join #unbutu, why is this? my router can't be upgaded further, i just disconnected and reconnected because my isp sucks00:05
Flannelreduz: Read the topic of the channel you're sent to when you try and join #ubuntu00:05
FlannelThe link there gives you a page with other methods besides just update your firmwar00:06
Flannele00:06
gnomefreakbazhang: he/she was like that this morning just not as bad IIRC00:06
reduzFlannel, says it's not able to test me00:07
LjLbazhang: i think i might have fixed the attitudes of both cobalt and aubade anyway00:08
LjLi've been very catalising.00:08
LjLcatalystic00:08
LjLcatalizering.00:08
LjLthat.00:08
bazhangoh permabans00:09
LjLreduz is not banned from #ubuntu to my knowledge00:09
FlannelLjL: bansearch says so00:09
LjLbansearch might say so, but the channel's banlist doesn't...00:10
LjLat least not by nick00:10
FlannelHmmm00:10
bazhangfloodbots seem to00:10
Flannelyou're right.  Removed March 22.  Why is BT inconsistent?00:10
reduzLjL, well but i can't join, it sends me to #ubuntu-read-topic00:10
LjLhmm00:11
bazhangwait LjL you really did the cattle-eratization thing with them.00:11
Flannelreduz: Try getting tested again.00:11
LjLbazhang: i what?00:12
reduzFlannel, i just get malformed requests00:12
LjLyeah, you aren't vulnerable at this time00:12
LjLbut i just don't see you in the banlist00:12
Flannelreduz: try #ubuntu now00:12
reduzgreat, thanks00:12
bazhangLjL, you didnt ban cobalt nor aubade from what I can tell00:13
gnomefreakchange port # for freenode and call it a day00:13
Flannelgnomefreak: He's already fixed the vuln.00:13
LjLbazhang: no, i talked to them both00:13
gnomefreakFlannel: ah00:13
LjLi dunno about reduz00:13
FlannelJust needed to get tested, etc.00:13
LjLi can swear he wasn't in the banlist00:13
LjLwhich is confirmed by the fact that the bot set -b reduz!*@*00:14
LjLnot -b reduz!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic00:14
LjLmight be server desync, though00:14
LjLkornbluth (iirc) was desynced some days ago00:14
Flannelactually,00:14
Flannel17:07 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-b reduz!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic] by FloodBot300:14
FlannelThat was 7 minutes ago.00:14
LjLoooh...00:14
Flannel(at the same time he originally asked for the test, and was reported as not a known victim)00:15
Flannelso... some bug there00:15
FlannelEr, apparently a second test?00:15
FlannelAh!  And the removal was after I asked ubottu, and before I checked BT proper00:15
Flannelwhich, explains that discrepency.00:15
LjLyes00:15
LjLit's probably just that floodbot1 (the one giving messages in -read-topic) didn't have that ban recorded for some reason00:16
LjLbut floodbot3 did00:16
mc44Hello! I would like to follow LjL's formal proceudrez00:18
rwwme200:18
LjLmc44, don't be silly00:18
nickspoonThat's a jolly good idea.00:18
LjLif we're talking about a troll00:18
LjLthen we don't want them to have a list of their previous nicknames cited in their presence00:18
LjLso, daemonfc is almightycthulu?00:18
bazhangyes00:19
rwwDaemon* is AlmightyCthulhu, who has been banned before for being a pain in the ass. He's still a pain in the ass.00:19
LjLand he's not also DaemonNET, and the other "Daemon" we've had these days?00:19
bazhanghe is unstable frankly00:19
mc44If you haven't noticed, the person in there is Ryan Farmer, aka AlmightyCthulu amongst other names, his blog being http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com, wot I recognised from the whole hilarious Foxconn thing with mjg5900:19
bazhangdaemondeb00:19
LjL(who, on his turn, was xavierg2003 - so i don't think so)00:19
bazhangno that is a different daemon00:19
LjLmc44: no, i haven't noticed, or i wouldn't be asking for clarification00:19
LjLhow do you know it's him?00:20
rwwDaemonFC, DaemonXP, and DaemonDEB are the same person, I think.00:20
mc44LjL: because he linked to his blog00:20
LjLok00:20
nickspoonThe guy referred to the blog that mc44 linked as his blog.00:20
rww[DaemonDEB] (n=ryan@c-67-173-86-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net): ryan00:20
rwwwhich is on the DaemonXP account00:20
bazhangwe've known its him for several days now00:20
bazhang<--due to someone's brilliance :)00:21
LjLi suppose he's not "supposed" to be banned from -ot just yet?00:21
bazhangoh I mean mc44's00:21
LjLif we have known that, why is it not in a BT comment? ;)00:21
mc44also, why is he not banned?00:21
nickspoon^ was about to ask.00:21
LjLi'll ban00:22
LjLhe seems to be banned already, and ban evading00:22
nickspoonAny objections?00:22
Flannelban evasion... no contest.00:22
mc44I have enjoyed following ur formal procedures. Thank you for you timez00:22
LjLno.00:22
nickspoonGood.00:22
rwwthanks :)00:22
LjLbazhang: search for c-69-245-138-66.hsd1.in.comcast.net in the tracker00:23
LjLthat address isn't marked as unbanned00:23
LjLand that is him00:23
bazhangLjL, yep00:23
bazhangLjL, its been known for some time.00:23
bazhangthough so has groovyorange00:24
LjLbazhang: as in, he's ban evading but nobody is enforcing it...?00:24
bazhangLjL, yes, again due to mc44's sleuthing00:24
LjLbazhang: why don't you just ban then? ban evasion is enough of an offence00:25
nickspoonHe's quite the sleuth.00:25
bazhangsportily, sp0rt1-->nick'd to groovyorange00:25
LjLOH HIM00:25
MyrttiLjL: access list00:25
LjLBAN HIM00:25
LjLMyrtti: fair point00:25
bazhangljl not wise enough to be op in thar00:25
LjLbut bazhang, this stuff would be helped by comments in the BT00:25
LjLif i see these people "mildly trolling", i won't really ban them unless there's something substantial on the BT00:26
* Myrtti goes to bed00:26
LjLand having "this is the same person as the ban evader xyz" IS substantial enough00:26
LjLi can't add you to the access list, but i can do *that* much00:26
bazhangLjL, okay; I made the connection very clear on several occasions to folks who *do* have access there.00:26
LjLbazhang: the BT is a neutral party. trust it.00:27
bazhangLjL, in future I will confine all comments to BT00:27
FlannelWell, they don't need to be confined there.00:27
bazhangie @mark and such00:27
FlannelBut, if they aren't there, they don't exist for more than a few hours.00:27
bazhang@mark #kubuntu tarfart continued profanity attitude00:28
ubottuThe operation succeeded.00:28
bazhang^^00:28
LjLbazhang: no, you don't have to CONFINE them there00:29
LjLjust PUT them there00:29
bazhangLjL, will do00:31
bazhangI have /msg'd ubottu00:31
LjLbazhang: so to put things together - mc44 mentioned also mjg59? that's the same person?00:34
bazhangLjL, ryan farmer = izanbardprince (foxconn guy who blog dueled with mjg) = daemondeb/xp/fc/one other (mkv?)00:35
LjLugh, what a mess00:35
bazhangLjL, in bt also as almightycthulhu00:36
LjLbazhang: "mkv" perhaps you're thinking "DaemonMDV"?00:36
bazhangLjL, yes that is the one00:36
LjLbazhang: see the comments i did on my kickban in -ot for an example of what i mean when i say tracking the troll. albeit admittedly a limited example as this isn't a troll i followed myself.00:44
bazhangLjL, point taken. its actually a nice channel when the trollage is down to a minimum.00:45
tonyyarussoLjL: Why yes, the cute little kitties *were* nude.  I suppose your bot was right, technically.00:56
tonyyarussoLjL: btw, the site in question was Deviant Art.  It seems to blacklist the whole thing, regardless of the specific content linked.00:57
tonyyarusso(watchbot that is)00:58
LjLtonyyarusso: no it doesn't00:58
LjLtonyyarusso: i've put deviantart on whitelist this morning, so it doesn't00:58
tonyyarussoah, ok :P00:59
tonyyarussoDid at the time then00:59
LjLtonyyarusso: yes it did, that's what i call a "trial run" ;)01:01
tonyyarussoLjL: did you make the list to start off with or get one somewhere?01:02
LjLtonyyarusso: deviantart and imageshack are now whitelisted, and also, if a site is in the "Image sharing" category, then it won't be warned on, even if it's also in other "bad" categopries01:02
LjLtonyyarusso: no, i use http://domain.opendns.com01:02
tonyyarussosmart01:02
Priceythere is a 'kubuntu brainstorm'...01:28
Priceyno prizes for guessing who has got it going01:29
bazhangryanakca, ??01:29
bazhangerr sorry ryanakca 01:29
bazhangoof01:29
bazhangPricey, either riddell or ryanakca ?01:30
PriceyNot quite where I was aiming.01:30
bazhanghints?01:30
bazhangstarts with a ju? std?01:30
bazhangunless this is one of those 'need to know' type deals :)01:31
LjLbazhang: perhaps it's a "want to know" deal01:32
ryanakcaPricey: *shrug*, google shows people asking for one on kubuntu-users and Ubuntu brainstorm...01:32
bazhangryanakca, sorry for the unneccesary highlight :)01:33
Priceyryanakca: I'm not convinced that's why it came about. But makes me feel better :)01:33
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, Lenin_Cat said: !Lenin_Cat is <reply> Lenin_Cat dares you to oppress him.01:36
LjL!b > lenin_cat    (lenin_cat, see the private message from ubottu)01:36
Flannelerm.... yeah.  I'm out of it.04:05
Flannelubottu: tell felix_da_catz about away04:11
FlannelMmm, that likely was premature, but I don't really want to read that site much04:23
Flannelbazhang: I don't think so.04:39
FlannelBut, certainly suspect.04:39
bazhangFlannel, okay thanks04:39
Flannelbazhang: I have no idea how evilGUI was determined to be the owner04:50
FlannelI certainly can't see any correlation04:50
bazhangFlannel, nor can I04:50
FlannelI certainly don't like it in there, that's for sure.04:53
bazhangnope04:54
Flannelubottu: tell Andre_Gondim-afk about away05:38
ubottusebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu ()06:34
stdinlooking at the BT, I'd say the auto-comment-with-hostmask think is working well07:10
FlannelIt certainly makes it easier07:10
stdinno errors in the log07:11
* stdin is happy07:11
bazhangbe nice if serial ban evader in -ot were dealt with (grooveorang1)07:33
topyliit does seem hard to get rid of this guy07:37
bazhangyep07:38
ubottuIn ubottu, mefisto_ said: ‏‮this is backwards‬‬09:25
bazhanghope that is 'this'09:27
jussi01of cours it is...09:44
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Servariumk11:15
bazhanghttp://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/20081207.html.gz    groovyOrang1 (today) n=Username@217.8.236.16811:35
bazhanglike talking to a brick wall12:16
bazhangoh lord12:48
gionnico_hi! can you unban me from #ubuntu ?12:51
bazhanggionnico_, never suggest that12:51
bazhanggionnico_, not even as a joke.12:51
bazhang!coc > gionnico_ 12:51
ubottugionnico_, please see my private message12:51
bazhang!guidelines | gionnico_ 12:51
ubottugionnico_: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:51
bazhanggionnico_, read both of those.12:52
gionnico_i thought it was good for the channel to answer him so he would stop flooding12:52
gionnico_i'm gonna read ^_^12:52
bazhanggionnico_, it is NEVER a good idea to suggest that.12:52
gionnico_i guess someone may try it even if it was for "ruining up his system"12:53
gionnico_and then come complain: why did that command ruined up my system?12:53
bazhanggionnico_, many new users have no idea about that command.12:53
bazhanggionnico_, so never suggest it, ever.12:53
gionnico_ok12:54
bazhanggionnico_, please dont idle here as per the channel topic12:57
gionnico_but i am still banned :/12:58
bazhanggionnico_, come back in 24 hrs to review12:58
gionnico_ok bye12:58
mneptokif any of you are church-goers, please pray woowoo finds us a new home this week.13:09
* mneptok is buried in rental and home sale info13:10
Tm_TServarium: hi how can we help you?14:05
Servariumhi Tm_T14:06
Servariumive been banned from #ubuntu-nl for 4 months now14:07
Servariumi'd like to be unbanned14:07
bazhang#ubuntu-irc for that Servarium 14:07
Servariumk14:07
bazhangplease part this channel Servarium 14:07
ubottuWatchBot called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (banlist is filling up in #ubuntu: 731)14:11
LjLwhat is Servarium doing here?14:13
LjLhe won't have any luck getting himself unbanned, anyway.14:14
LjL(oh and sorry again for the ! ops)14:14
LjL(no, i'm not doing it on purpose. although i enjoy it a bit)14:15
Flannelubottu: tell Mud|lunch about away18:02
FlannelErm... floodbots don't remove CTCP Versioners anymore? just ban?18:38
Flannelubottu: tell Dracie about away19:10
LjLFlannel: they never did, they always just banned20:22
LjLwho cares whether they get removed anyway, if youùre banned you are banned20:23
FlannelLjL: If you aren't removed, you can still get names/etc20:25
Flannelalthough, I suppose anyone trying to harvest nicks won't CTCP the channel20:26
ShizuoI'm here to make friends22:04
jussi01wth?22:19
jussi01LjL: whats the story eith him?22:19
LjLjussi01: check the BT.22:20
jussi01LjL: I was hoping to avoid that...22:20
jussi01I wanted your 1 line view...22:20
LjLjussi01: my one line view? complete troll, good at it, funny in certain ways, but i'm just upset i couldn't kick him from ##windows and ##linux too22:21
jussi01hehe, ok22:21
LjLjussi01: http://ircwall.snuxoll.com/quotes/8022:22
jussi01ahh22:23
jussi01completely know what he is doing... they are the ones who get funny.... but still annoying 22:24
LjLjussi01: yesterday he was in ##windows giving semi-helpful answers to people, and "mistakenly" inserting my nickname in the middle of every message22:25
jussi01hehehehe... thats just nasty22:26
LjLyeah, well, perhaps he doesn't realize i have him on highlight *anyway*22:26
jpdsfreudian slip!22:26
LjLjpds: do you think he loves me?22:28
LjLeveryone, i've added another feature to watchbot for the #ubuntu-it guys to make it look *inside* linked sites, and warn if they contain "bad" keyphrases such as "sudo passwd root"23:16
LjLdo you think that might be appropriate for #ubuntu too?23:17
Seeker`sounds reasonable23:29
LjLi've also sent mail to the IRC ML about watchbot, to clarity its purpose etc23:32
LjLtritium, look at epc1 in #ubuntu - he's also in #ubuntu-us-nm23:57

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